From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jan 5 17:34:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA17261 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:34:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA17257 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:34:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA11524; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:34:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA11522 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:34:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from infiniteloop.com (entropy.sihope.com [206.9.159.65]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA11466 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:34:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (netatalk@localhost) by infiniteloop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA29796 for ; Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:33:27 -0600 Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:33:26 -0600 (CST) From: Nate Carlson To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Disabling Routing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I have netatalk 1.3.3 running on a Linux 2.0.32 system with 3 ethernet cards, two of which are used for netatalk. It is running perfectly, except it is routing between the two networks, and I need to disable this feature. (This is supposed to be a dropsite for files between two different parts of a company, they are not supposed to be allowed to talk directly to each other.) I applied the patch I found, and routing was disabled just fine, but it seems that afpd binds itself only to one of the two addresses. So, it serves one side of the network just fine, but the other side of the network can see the server but cannot access it. Does anyone have a solution for this? TIA. -Nate Carlson The Infinite Loop natecars@infiniteloop.com From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 6 05:26:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA19008 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 05:26:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA19004 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 05:26:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA05839; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 05:26:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA05837 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 05:26:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from schubert.promo.de (schubert.Promo.DE [194.45.188.65]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id FAA05829 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 05:26:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from stefan.promo.de (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA20532; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 11:18:41 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 11:23:48 +0100 From: "Stefan Bethke" To: "Nate Carlson" , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Disabling Routing Message-ID: <145021.3093074628@stefan.promo.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry Demo (MacOS) [1.3.1, s/n Evaluation] X-Licensed-To: Unlicensed - for evaluation only MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 5. Jan 1998 16:33 Uhr -0600 "Nate Carlson" wrote: > I applied the patch I found, and routing was > disabled just fine, but it seems that afpd binds itself only to one of the > two addresses. So, it serves one side of the network just fine, but the > other side of the network can see the server but cannot access it. Does > anyone have a solution for this? TIA. You probably will need to tweak afpd to bind to a specific address and run two afpd's on the machine, one for each interface. Specifically, you'll need an additional option in etc/afpd/main.c:main() to specify the address to bind to, and a call to a modified version of atp_open(). In the modified version of libatalk/atop/atp_open.c:atp_open(), instead of initializing the sockaddr_at to *_ANY values, initialize the address to the one given by the caller. Hope this helps, Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-18 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 6 07:00:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA21209 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:00:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.tibus.net (sparc.tibus.net [194.74.214.5]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id HAA21203 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:00:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 24765 invoked from network); 6 Jan 1998 12:01:23 -0000 Received: from mail.tibus.net (HELO sparc.tibus.net) (194.74.214.8) by mail.tibus.net with SMTP; 6 Jan 1998 12:01:23 -0000 Received: (from pgregg@localhost) by sparc.tibus.net (8.8.0/8.8.0) id MAA24752; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 12:01:21 GMT Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 12:01:21 GMT Message-Id: <199801061201.MAA24752@sparc.tibus.net> To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk list and SPAM Newsgroups: mail.netatalk Organization: The Internet Business Ltd From: Paul Gregg Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Now why does the server send its messages as: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (bulk_mailer v1.5+); Tue, 6 Jan 1998 05:26:34 -0500 'bulk_mailer' is just asking to be SPAM filtered. Can this be changed? It is getting filtered at my site. Paul Gregg From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 6 07:13:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA21634 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:13:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from info.ox.ac.uk (hewes.icl.ox.ac.uk [163.1.35.69]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA21629 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:12:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from info.ox.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by info.ox.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03154Tue, 6 Jan 1998 12:12:50 GMT Message-Id: <199801061212.MAA03154@info.ox.ac.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Paul Gregg cc: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk list and SPAM In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 06 Jan 1998 12:01:21 GMT." <199801061201.MAA24752@sparc.tibus.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 12:12:49 +0000 From: "Mr. Arlington Hewes" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >>>>> On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, "PG" == Paul Gregg wrote: PG> Now why does the server send its messages as: Received: by PG> terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (bulk_mailer v1.5+); Tue, 6 Jan 1998 05:26:34 PG> -0500 PG> 'bulk_mailer' is just asking to be SPAM filtered. Can this be changed? PG> It is getting filtered at my site. That's a shame, cuz it's a great majordomo back end which boosts delivery performance of mid-sized majordomo-based lists . . . I use it and recommend it. -DPN From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 6 07:33:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA22491 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:33:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from netit.be ([194.7.86.222] (may be forged)) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA22487 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 07:33:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from netit.be ([194.7.74.19]) by netit.be (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA22342 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:30:58 +0100 Message-ID: <34B2244F.BCFE593D@netit.be> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 13:32:15 +0100 From: chris thoen Organization: Net It Be X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.1 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Can't register ... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello I installed netatalk on a linux system (Dell optiplex GXpro 180 MHZ). I used version 1.4b2, and 1 patch : afpd-macos8.diff (dncing icons) When I start up my system, I get the message : atalkd nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out Can't register chris-pc: Workstation@* nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out Can't register chris-pc: netatalk@* The kernel is compiled on the right way, and /etc/services is modified. What is going wrong? Thanks in advance, chris -- Chris THOEN Systeembeheerder Net it be Posthoflei 3 2600 BERCHEM tel : 03/286.04.34 fax : 03/286.04.70 email : christ@netit.be url : www.netit.be From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 6 08:11:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA23637 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 08:11:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA23633 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 08:11:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA02483; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 08:12:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA02481 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 08:12:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from bayer2.bayer-ag.de (bayer2.bayer-ag.de [194.120.191.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id IAA02470 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 08:12:11 -0500 (EST) From: MICHAEL.BERGHAUS.MB@bayer-ag.de Received: by bayer2.bayer-ag.de id AA14173 (SMTP Gateway 3.0 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu); Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:10:49 +0100 Received: by bayer2.bayer-ag.de (Internal Mail Agent-2); Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:10:49 +0100 Received: by bayer2.bayer-ag.de (Internal Mail Agent-1); Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:10:49 +0100 To: " - (052)netatalk-admins(a)umich.edu" Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk for DEC OSF1? Message-Id: <0006800001309784000002L042*@MHS> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:09:28 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, is there anyone who has a port of netatalk to DEC's OSF1 (or Digital Unix) ? Is there a chance to compile the Ultrix-version on OSF1? Thanks in advance Michael Berghaus From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 6 10:24:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA29596 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:24:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA29590 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:24:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id KAA13958; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:25:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id KAA13929 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:25:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id KAA13925 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:25:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from majink1.itc.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa29822; 6 Jan 98 10:24 EST Received: (from rjm8m@localhost) by majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.6) id KAA06328 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:24:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:24:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert J. Marinchick" Message-Id: <199801061524.KAA06328@majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Error in "make" on Solaris 2.6 box Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm currently trying to make netatalk on a solaris 2.6 box, an am running into a problem "/usr/include/sys/model.h:32 #error "No DATAMODEL_NATIVE specified" *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target 'aarp.o'. I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks, Bob Marinchick rjm8m@majink1.itc.virginia.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 6 10:34:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA00367 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:34:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from eve.telalink.net (eve.telalink.net [207.152.1.3]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA00360 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:34:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from babel.telalink.net (babel.telalink.net [207.152.1.9]) by eve.telalink.net (MTA-v3.8/9.00v-fbmx-blkspam) with ESMTP id JAA29821 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 09:23:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from bill.telalink.net (bill.telalink.net [207.152.9.31]) by babel.telalink.net (MTA-v3.7/relaymail-1.0.0) with SMTP id JAA05468 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 09:34:30 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 09:34:35 -0600 From: "Bill Butler" To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Exported Volumes Message-ID: <8724891.3093068075@bill.telalink.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry (MacOS) [1.3.1, s/n U-200372] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am trying to export only 1 volume and am using the latest asun patch. The problem is that I have specified to export /home/telalink as Telalink but it only exports a users home directory regardless of what I do. Here is a configuration that I settled on & it still does not work. AppleVolumes.default - I have removed the ~ from this file effectively leaving it empty. AppleVolumes.system - /home/telalink Telalink . BINA UNIX # . TEXT UNIX .a TEXT MPS Assembly Source .aif AIFF SNDM AIFF Sound .aiff AIFF SNDM AIFF Sound .aifc AIFF SNDM AIFF Sound .arc BINA arc) PC ARChive .. [snip] afpd.conf office.telalink.net -loginmesg "Hello" I can definitely tell that afpd.conf is getting read in because the server is getting named appropriately and the "Hello" message works. I am calling afpd with the following command: /opt/atalkd/etc/afpd -c 20 (for 20 connections) -- Bill Butler Bill@Telalink.Net President, Chief Operating Officer 615.321.9100 ext.230 Back in the 1970s we didn't have the space shuttle to get all excited about. We had to settle for men walking on the crummy moon. - Russell Beland From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 6 10:38:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA01045 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:38:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from eve.telalink.net (eve.telalink.net [207.152.1.3]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA00950 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:38:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from babel.telalink.net (babel.telalink.net [207.152.1.9]) by eve.telalink.net (MTA-v3.8/9.00v-fbmx-blkspam) with ESMTP id JAA00589; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 09:27:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from bill.telalink.net (bill.telalink.net [207.152.9.31]) by babel.telalink.net (MTA-v3.7/relaymail-1.0.0) with SMTP id JAA05731; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 09:38:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 09:38:28 -0600 From: "Bill Butler" To: "chris thoen" cc: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Can't register ... Message-ID: <8738907.3093068308@bill.telalink.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry (MacOS) [1.3.1, s/n U-200372] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --On Tue, Jan 6, 1998 1:32 PM +0100 "chris thoen" wrote: > I installed netatalk on a linux system (Dell optiplex GXpro 180 MHZ). I > used version 1.4b2, and 1 patch : afpd-macos8.diff (dncing icons) > > When I start up my system, I get the message : > atalkd nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out > Can't register chris-pc: Workstation@* > nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out > Can't register chris-pc: netatalk@* > > The kernel is compiled on the right way, and /etc/services is modified. > > What is going wrong? I had the exact same problem. It seems that the rc.atalk file included in the distribution has a screwed up placement of one of the brackets. I didn't actually catch the problem but on of the system guys here saw the error & fixed the bracket. Everything worked after that. I hope that someone can fix that because it actually caused me a great deal of grief for quite a while. Look for the error shortly after the failed nbp_rgstr message. -- Bill Butler Bill@Telalink.Net President, Chief Operating Officer 615.321.9100 ext.230 Back in the 1970s we didn't have the space shuttle to get all excited about. We had to settle for men walking on the crummy moon. - Russell Beland From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 6 10:51:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA02452 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:51:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA02444 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:51:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA04120; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:51:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA04113 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:51:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from gateway2.platinum.com (gateway2.platinum.com [208.232.182.8]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id KAA04069 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:51:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by gateway2.platinum.com; id JAA16437; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 09:51:35 -0600 Received: from mailhub.platinum.com(172.17.26.25) by gateway2.platinum.com via smap (3.2) id xma016391; Tue, 6 Jan 98 09:51:30 -0600 Received: from ptimlj.platinum.com (ptimlj.platinum.com [172.17.26.31]) by mailhub.platinum.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02842; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 09:51:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (dcmark@localhost) by ptimlj.platinum.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id JAA27155; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 09:51:30 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: ptimlj.platinum.com: dcmark owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 09:51:30 -0600 (CST) From: Mark Juric X-Sender: dcmark@ptimlj To: "Robert J. Marinchick" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Error in "make" on Solaris 2.6 box In-Reply-To: <199801061524.KAA06328@majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Robert, You will need to recompile GCC to run correctly under 2.6. The DATAMODEL directive is a new addition to Solaris 2.6 and it will be defined in //include/sys/sunddi.h -Mark On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Robert J. Marinchick wrote: > Hi, > > I'm currently trying to make netatalk on a solaris 2.6 box, > an am running into a problem "/usr/include/sys/model.h:32 > #error "No DATAMODEL_NATIVE > specified" > > > *** Error code 1 > make: Fatal error: Command failed for target 'aarp.o'. > > I'd appreciate any suggestions. > > Thanks, > Bob Marinchick > rjm8m@majink1.itc.virginia.edu > -- Mark Juric juric@platinum.com `||||' (630) 620-5000 x1653 Team Leader, Production Systems || PLATINUM Technology From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 6 11:17:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA04519 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 11:17:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA04508 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 11:16:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA11714; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 11:16:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA11694 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 11:16:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from oz.plymouth.edu (oz.plymouth.edu [158.136.1.100]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA11677 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 11:16:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by oz.plymouth.edu; id LAA08953; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 11:16:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34B258E1.5BD21FA7@mail.plymouth.edu> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 11:16:46 -0500 From: Casey Bisson Organization: Information Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MICHAEL.BERGHAUS.MB@bayer-ag.de, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk for DEC OSF1? References: <0006800001309784000002L042*@MHS> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu If you want to buy a source license for Digital UInix, you could probobly port the kernel patches from FreeBSD to support it. Helios (www.helios.com) has a product called EtherShare which appears to be a commercial clone of netatalk that ships with the kernel patches for DEC Unix. They offer 30 demos of their software if a more experienced programmer is interested in seeing what they do before attempting to port netatalk to DEC Unix. But I guess any organization that can afford to buy Alpha Servers can also afford to buy Helios' EtherShare (at $thousands per node). Or you can use a FreeBSD box to run netatalk and NFS your data from the DEC box (what I ended up doing). enjoy, Casey Bisson Information Technology Plymouth State College MICHAEL.BERGHAUS.MB@bayer-ag.de wrote: > Hi, > > is there anyone who has a port of netatalk to DEC's OSF1 (or Digital Unix) ? > Is there a chance to compile the Ultrix-version on OSF1? > > Thanks in advance > > Michael Berghaus From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 6 21:19:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA06617 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 21:19:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA06613 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 21:19:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA03868; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 21:19:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA03862 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 21:19:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from infinity.gen.emory.edu (infinity.gen.emory.edu [170.140.53.130]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id VAA03856 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 21:19:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from infinity (infinity [170.140.53.130]) by infinity.gen.emory.edu (SMI-8.6/8.6.9-ITDgen-950524) with SMTP id VAA00929 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 21:19:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 21:19:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Andreas M. Kogelnik" X-Sender: kogelnik@infinity To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.6 and printing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, Want to be able to print via lpr from a Solaris 2.6 box to an Appletalk printer. Successfully compiled and installed netatalk v 1.4b2. Getzones and pap (for Postscript files) works fine as root. BUt when I try it as a user, I get $./getzones atp_open: Permission denied $ pap -p "GMM LaserWriter Pro (403A)" nbp_lookup: Permission denied $ Obviously some permissions need resetting, but where? Question number two: Are there any references for how I can set up the appletalk printer to get fed directly a the default Solaris printer - e.g. as from the admintool? Or if anyone has any experience with this - I'm sure it's been done. I just don't know where to look and have missed the instructions if they're in the 1.4b2 distribution. Thanks Andy Andreas M. Kogelnik M.D./Ph.D. Program Bioengineering Program Center for Molecular Medicine College of Computing Emory University School of Medicine Georgia Institute of Technology 1462 Clifton Rd - Suite 403 801 Atlantic Drive Atlanta, GA 30322 Atlanta, GA 30332 kogelnik@emory.edu kogelnik@cc.gatech.edu (404) 727-8801 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 7 08:59:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA07718 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA07714 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:59:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA04677; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:59:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA04673 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:59:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from voyager.dynamind-llc.com (voyager.dynamind-llc.com [206.153.113.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id IAA04668 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:59:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from dyna-ntserver by voyager.dynamind-llc.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA00903; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 08:59:34 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980107085853.00e75620@dynamind-llc.com> X-Sender: philip@dynamind-llc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 08:58:53 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: "Philip S. Wachtel" Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and samba cooperation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, I'm using netatalk and samba to export a shared volume to both pcs and macs. Things are working well, but I do have two questions. 1. If a Mac user puts something on the volume and a PC user deletes or moves it, files are left in the .AppleDouble and I think in the .AppleDesktop as well. Does anyone know how to keep things straight under these conditions? 2. Does anyone know of a way of setting a default group like "users" for this shared netatalk volume? Thanks very much! Philip From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 7 09:20:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA08678 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:20:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA08673 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:20:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA16991; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:20:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA16989 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:20:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.imaginet.co.uk (tanya.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.16]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id JAA16969 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:19:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 14:18:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Vivek To: "Philip S. Wachtel" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and samba cooperation In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980107085853.00e75620@dynamind-llc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Philip S. Wachtel wrote: > Hello, > > I'm using netatalk and samba to export a shared volume to both pcs and > macs. Things are working well, but I do have two questions. > > 1. If a Mac user puts something on the volume and a PC user deletes or > moves it, files are left in the .AppleDouble and I think in the > .AppleDesktop as well. Does anyone know how to keep things straight under > these conditions? Off the top of my head, you could write a script to prune orphaned .AppleDouble entries, [I believe someone on the list already did this], and run that from time to time, or via cron, or at boot-time, or when the moon is gibbous[you get the idea :)], or you could compile the hfs module with the tweak for sharing via netatalk, and export the whole hfs partition. -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 7 09:21:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA08854 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:21:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA08826 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:21:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA17392; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:21:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA17386 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:21:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.de.uu.net (atuin.de.uu.net [192.76.144.65]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA17376 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:21:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from pec-35.au5.f.uunet.de [149.228.241.35] by mail.de.uu.net with SMTP (5.61c:027_BLOCK/2.7.3.f) id PAA12372; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:21:18 +0100 (MET) X-zyzzy: 90% Message-ID: <34B38FCA.41C6@easi.de> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 15:23:07 +0100 From: EASi Engineering Support Organization: EASi-Engineering X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01SC-SGI (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk two times on one linux-box? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! I'm using netatalk on an Intel-PC under Linux and it works really fine. One question is left .... Is it possible to use netatalk two times in that way that two linux-boxes appearing in the chooser-appleshare menu? Thanks Lutz -- EASi-Engineering GmbH Tel. ++49 (0) 6023 / 970706 Roentgenstr. 4 Fax ++49 (0) 6023 / 970170 63755 Alzenau E-Mail support@easi.de From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 7 09:35:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA09793 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:35:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA09789 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:35:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA21402; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:35:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA21397 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:35:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from venus.tech.mtext.com.tr (venus.mtext.com.tr [195.174.142.10]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA21305 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:34:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (arslan@localhost) by venus.tech.mtext.com.tr (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA30113 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 17:28:37 +0200 client: (0 ) Posted-Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 17:28:37 +0200 Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 17:28:36 +0200 (EET) From: Gunay ARSLAN cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk two times on one linux-box? In-Reply-To: <34B38FCA.41C6@easi.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, EASi Engineering Support wrote: > Hi! > > I'm using netatalk on an Intel-PC under Linux and it works really fine. > One question is left .... > > Is it possible to use netatalk two times in that way that two > linux-boxes appearing in the chooser-appleshare menu? in the netatalk-1.4b2+asun2 version you can start several servers in a single Linux box, each with different configurations . Gunay Arslan > > Thanks > Lutz > -- > > EASi-Engineering GmbH Tel. ++49 (0) 6023 / 970706 > Roentgenstr. 4 Fax ++49 (0) 6023 / 970170 > 63755 Alzenau E-Mail support@easi.de > From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 7 10:57:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA12337 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:57:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA12333 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:57:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id KAA15995; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:58:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id KAA15987 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:58:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id KAA15949 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:58:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from majink1.itc.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa03141; 7 Jan 98 10:57 EST Received: (from rjm8m@localhost) by majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.6) id KAA02239 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:57:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:57:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert J. Marinchick" Message-Id: <199801071557.KAA02239@majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] "Making netatalk on a Solaris 2.6 box" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, First, I want to thank Mark Juric for his suggestion to recompile "gcc". I got past the DATAMODEL problem. However, I encountered another with conflicting types for "msgdsize" and "allocb" while compliing "ddptp_utls.c". It looks as if they differ wrt those in /usr/include/sys/stream.h. I'm not heavy into "C" programming, so I'm a little confused. How can I resolve this, and will I experience more of this type error as I continue? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bob Marinchick rjm8m@majink1.itc.virginia.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 7 14:10:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA18412 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 14:10:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA18383 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 14:10:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA14688; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 14:11:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA14534 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 14:11:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from gateway2.platinum.com (gateway2.platinum.com [208.232.182.8]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id OAA13986 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 14:09:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by gateway2.platinum.com; id MAA18715; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 12:13:17 -0600 Received: from mailhub.platinum.com(172.17.26.25) by gateway2.platinum.com via smap (3.2) id xma018660; Wed, 7 Jan 98 12:13:13 -0600 Received: from ptimlj.platinum.com (ptimlj.platinum.com [172.17.26.31]) by mailhub.platinum.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17584; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 12:13:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (dcmark@localhost) by ptimlj.platinum.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id MAA09875; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 12:13:12 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: ptimlj.platinum.com: dcmark owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 12:13:11 -0600 (CST) From: Mark Juric X-Sender: dcmark@ptimlj To: "Robert J. Marinchick" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] "Making netatalk on a Solaris 2.6 box" In-Reply-To: <199801071557.KAA02239@majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Robert, Just comment out those two definitions. They are already defined in stream.h and don't need to be redefined here. As for other problems... I've run into one I can't seem to solve yet - "__inline__" doesn't seem to be defined and the only way I can get compilation is to force including /usr/include, but then this breaks some stuff in nbp_parse. -Mark On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Robert J. Marinchick wrote: > Hi, > First, I want to thank Mark Juric for his suggestion to recompile > "gcc". I got past the DATAMODEL problem. > > However, I encountered another with conflicting types for > "msgdsize" and "allocb" while compliing "ddptp_utls.c". > It looks as if they differ wrt those in > /usr/include/sys/stream.h. > I'm not heavy into "C" programming, so I'm a little confused. > > How can I resolve this, and will I experience more of this > type error as I continue? > > Any help is greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Bob Marinchick > rjm8m@majink1.itc.virginia.edu > > -- Mark Juric juric@platinum.com `||||' (630) 620-5000 x1653 Team Leader, Production Systems || PLATINUM Technology From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 7 16:42:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA27472 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:42:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA27458 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:42:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA21938; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:42:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA21889 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:42:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from solist. (solist.partitur.se [193.219.246.204]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id QAA21576 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:41:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from partitur.se by solist. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA25236; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 22:39:43 +0100 Message-ID: <34B3F61E.D0D15227@partitur.se> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 22:39:42 +0100 From: Palle Girgensohn Organization: Partitur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: d97ahjo@olivia.ios.chalmers.se, oa@spray.fi CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] ISO filenames patch, netatalk<->samba<->unix Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------D6CE569BB33EBC3F71A9BE70" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D6CE569BB33EBC3F71A9BE70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello! I have put together a patch that will use ISO-latin to name files stored on a netatalk server. If this interest you, please feel free to try them (consider it alpha quality though; of course I take no responsibility ;-) Do not be too alarmed; they work fine for me, with the catch described below. I know this is not the only patch around for this, but I couldn't wait :) (I'm still interested in getting the patch from Julian, but there's no rush). To patch, cd into the netatalk-1.4b2 directory and do 'patch < xxx/patch.iso' and 'patch < xxx/patch.makefile' (or change the Makefile in etc/aftpd and add ISO_FILENAMES to the CFLAGS). Then cd into etc/afpd and do make clean, cd ../.. and do make; make install and restart afpd. (on some systems, you might need to reboot... odd, but this is not because of the patch...) Now, file names with MacRoman characters that exist in the ISO-Latin(8859-1) character set are translated into ISO-Latin. This helps you if you wan't to share files with Unix or Windows (eg via Samba). For samba, use 'character set = iso8859-1' in smb.conf. The caveat: MacRoman has a larger set of characters than iso-8859-1. ASCII defines only seven bits of a byte, in the interval between 0 and 0x7f. The interval just after ASCII ends, 0x80 and 0x9f, is used for control chars by 8859-1 (mirroring the first 32 ASCII chars, sort of?). MacRoman starts right away defining characters. So I use that interval to map MacRoman unique chars into iso, so the mac will get them. That is, MacRoman unique chars are represented in the range 0x80 to 0x9f in iso-latin. That way, netatalk maintains a one to relation when converting mac filenames back and forth to the server. Samba doesn't like the chars in this range and hides the files from the Windows user. Originally, netatalk converts chars above 0x7f to ':xx'. This colon is not liked by samba either. The chars not available in iso are usually stuff like (tm) and the like, which is mostly used for Mac binaries. These files, you really not need to see in samba. All letters with umlauts and stuff are available in both charsets... I feel that files with these names probably only are important to mac users. Am I right? Maybe using the original colon idea for these are the best approach; this way samba will see them but the filename is chopped at the first colon and can not be opened. Other characters than colon would create even bigger problems, because colon is the only filename character that is forbidden in both Windows and Mac. Please give me feedback on this. Also, your own patches for this functionality interest me :) Regards, Palle Girgensohn Partitur Informationsteknik AB http://www.partitur.se/ --------------D6CE569BB33EBC3F71A9BE70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="patch.iso" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="patch.iso" *** ./etc/afpd/desktop.c.orig Wed Dec 31 01:42:51 1997 --- ./etc/afpd/desktop.c Wed Jan 7 20:51:12 1998 *************** *** 414,480 **** return( path ); } char * mtoupath( mpath ) char *mpath; { ! static char upath[ MAXNAMLEN ]; ! char *m, *u; ! int i = 0; ! ! if ( *mpath == '\0' ) { ! return( "." ); } ! ! m = mpath; ! u = upath; ! while ( *m != '\0' ) { ! if ( !isascii( *m ) || *m == '/' || ( i == 0 && *m == '.' )) { ! *u++ = ':'; ! *u++ = hexdig[ ( *m & 0xf0 ) >> 4 ]; ! *u++ = hexdig[ *m & 0x0f ]; ! } else { #ifdef DOWNCASE ! *u++ = ( isupper( *m )) ? tolower( *m ) : *m; #else DOWNCASE ! *u++ = *m; #endif DOWNCASE - } - i++; - m++; } ! *u = '\0'; ! return( upath ); } - #define hextoint( c ) ( isdigit( c ) ? c - '0' : c + 10 - 'a' ) - #define islxdigit(x) (!isupper(x)&&isxdigit(x)) char * utompath( upath ) ! char *upath; { ! static char mpath[ MAXNAMLEN ]; ! char *m, *u; ! int h; ! ! u = upath; ! m = mpath; ! while ( *u != '\0' ) { ! if ( *u == ':' && *(u+1) != '\0' && islxdigit( *(u+1)) && ! *(u+2) != '\0' && islxdigit( *(u+2))) { ! ++u; ! h = hextoint( *u ) << 4; ! ++u; ! h |= hextoint( *u ); ! *m++ = h; ! } else { ! *m++ = *u; ! } ! u++; } ! *m = '\0'; ! return( mpath ); } iconopen( vol, creator, flags, mode ) --- 414,577 ---- return( path ); } + #define hextoint( c ) ( isdigit( c ) ? c - '0' : c + 10 - 'a' ) + #define islxdigit(x) (!isupper(x)&&isxdigit(x)) + #ifdef ISO_FILENAMES + /* + * Macintosh/ISO Character Translation Routines + * + */ + + /* + * Table for translating Macintosh characters 0x80-0xff to ISO + * (Macintosh characters 0x00-0x7f map directly to ISO equivalent). + * + * The table contains a reversible mapping for text translation. + * + */ + + u_char Mac2ISO[128] = { + 0xC4, 0xC5, 0xC7, 0xC9, 0xD1, 0xD6, 0xDC, 0xE1, /* 80 - 87 */ + 0xE0, 0xE2, 0xE4, 0xE3, 0xE5, 0xE7, 0xE9, 0xE8, /* 88 - 8F */ + 0xEA, 0xEB, 0xED, 0xEC, 0xEE, 0xEF, 0xF1, 0xF3, /* 90 - 97 */ + 0xF2, 0xF4, 0xF6, 0xF5, 0xFA, 0xF9, 0xFB, 0xFC, /* 98 - 9F */ + 0x84, 0xB0, 0xA2, 0xA3, 0xA7, 0xB7, 0xB6, 0xDF, /* A0 - A7 */ + 0xAE, 0xA9, 0x85, 0xB4, 0xA8, 0xAD, 0xC6, 0xD8, /* A8 - AF */ + 0x86, 0xB1, 0xB2, 0xB3, 0xA5, 0xB5, 0x87, 0x88, /* B0 - B7 */ + 0xBC, 0xB9, 0xBE, 0xAA, 0xBA, 0xBD, 0xE6, 0xF8, /* B8 - BF */ + 0xBF, 0xA1, 0xAC, 0x89, 0x8A, 0x8B, 0x8C, 0xAB, /* C0 - C7 */ + 0xBB, 0x8D, 0xA0, 0xC0, 0xC3, 0xD5, 0x8E, 0x8F, /* C8 - CF */ + 0xD0, 0x90, 0x91, 0x92, 0x93, 0x94, 0xF7, 0xD7, /* D0 - D7 */ + 0xFF, 0xDD, 0x80, 0xA4, 0x82, 0x83, 0xDE, 0x95, /* D8 - DF */ + 0x96, 0x97, 0x98, 0x99, 0x9A, 0xC2, 0xCA, 0xC1, /* E0 - E7 */ + 0xCB, 0xC8, 0xCD, 0xCE, 0xCF, 0xCC, 0xD3, 0xD4, /* E8 - EF */ + 0xF0, 0xD2, 0xDA, 0xDB, 0xD9, 0x9B, 0x5E, 0x7E, /* F0 - F7 */ + 0xAF, 0x9C, 0x9D, 0x9E, 0xB8, 0xFD, 0xFE, 0x9F, /* F8 - FF */ + }; + + /* + * Table for translating ISO characters 0x80-0xff to Macintosh + * (ISO characters 0x00-0x7f map directly to Macintosh equivalent). + * + * The table contains a reversible mapping for text translation. + * + */ + + u_char ISO2Mac[128] = { + 0xda, 0x2f, 0xdc, 0xde, 0xA0, 0xAA, 0xB0, 0xB6, /* 80 - 87 */ + 0xB7, 0xC3, 0xC4, 0xC5, 0xC6, 0xC9, 0xCE, 0xCF, /* 88 - 8F */ + 0xD1, 0xD2, 0xD3, 0xD4, 0xD5, 0xDF, 0xE0, 0xE1, /* 90 - 97 */ + 0xE2, 0xE3, 0xE4, 0xF5, 0xF9, 0xFA, 0xFB, 0xFF, /* 98 - 9F */ + 0xCA, 0xC1, 0xA2, 0xA3, 0xDB, 0xB4, 0x7C, 0xA4, /* A0 - A7 */ + 0xAC, 0xA9, 0xBB, 0xC7, 0xC2, 0xAD, 0xA8, 0xF8, /* A8 - AF */ + 0xA1, 0xB1, 0xB2, 0xB3, 0xAB, 0xB5, 0xA6, 0xA5, /* B0 - B7 */ + 0xFC, 0xB9, 0xBC, 0xC8, 0xB8, 0xBD, 0xBA, 0xC0, /* B8 - BF */ + 0xCB, 0xE7, 0xE5, 0xCC, 0x80, 0x81, 0xAE, 0x82, /* C0 - C7 */ + 0xE9, 0x83, 0xE6, 0xE8, 0xED, 0xEA, 0xEB, 0xEC, /* C8 - CF */ + 0xD0, 0x84, 0xF1, 0xEE, 0xEF, 0xCD, 0x85, 0xD7, /* D0 - D7 */ + 0xAF, 0xF4, 0xF2, 0xF3, 0x86, 0xD9, 0xDE, 0xA7, /* D8 - DF */ + 0x88, 0x87, 0x89, 0x8B, 0x8A, 0x8C, 0xBE, 0x8D, /* E0 - E7 */ + 0x8F, 0x8E, 0x90, 0x91, 0x93, 0x92, 0x94, 0x95, /* E8 - EF */ + 0xF0, 0x96, 0x98, 0x97, 0x99, 0x9B, 0x9A, 0xD6, /* F0 - F7 */ + 0xBF, 0x9D, 0x9C, 0x9E, 0x9F, 0xFD, 0xFE, 0xD8, /* F8 - FF */ + }; + + #endif + char * mtoupath( mpath ) char *mpath; { ! static char upath[ MAXNAMLEN ]; ! char *m, *u; ! int i = 0; ! ! if ( *mpath == '\0' ) { ! return( "." ); ! } ! ! m = mpath; ! u = upath; ! while ( *m != '\0' ) { ! ! #ifdef ISO_FILENAMES ! if ( i == 0 && *m == '.' ) ! *u = 0xb7; ! else if (*m == '/') ! *u = 0x81; ! else if (*m & 0x80) ! *u = Mac2ISO[*m & 0x7f]; ! else { ! *u = *m; ! ! #ifdef DOWNCASE ! *u = ( isupper( *u )) ? tolower( *u) : *u; ! #endif DOWNCASE } ! ! u++; ! /* PLEASE NOTE: on some systems, a proper LOCALE will ! get downcase working with ISO characters. */ ! ! #else ISO_FILENAMES ! ! if ( !isascii( *m ) || *m == '/' || ( i == 0 && *m == '.' )) { ! *u++ = ':'; ! *u++ = hexdig[ ( *m & 0xf0 ) >> 4 ]; ! *u++ = hexdig[ *m & 0x0f ]; ! ! } else { ! #ifdef DOWNCASE ! *u++ = ( isupper( *m )) ? tolower( *m ) : *m; #else DOWNCASE ! *u++ = *m; #endif DOWNCASE } ! ! #endif ISO_FILENAMES ! ! i++; ! m++; ! } ! *u = '\0'; ! return( upath ); } char * utompath( upath ) ! char *upath; { ! static char mpath[ MAXNAMLEN ]; ! char *m, *u; ! int h; ! ! u = upath; ! m = mpath; ! while ( *u != '\0' ) { ! #ifdef ISO_FILENAMES ! if ( *u & 0x80 ) { ! *m++ = ISO2Mac[*u & 0x7f]; ! } ! #else ! if ( *u == ':' && *(u+1) != '\0' && islxdigit( *(u+1)) && ! *(u+2) != '\0' && islxdigit( *(u+2))) { ! ++u; ! h = hextoint( *u ) << 4; ! ++u; ! h |= hextoint( *u ); ! *m++ = h; ! } ! #endif ISO_FILENAMES ! ! else { ! *m++ = *u; } ! u++; ! } ! *m = '\0'; ! return( mpath ); } iconopen( vol, creator, flags, mode ) --------------D6CE569BB33EBC3F71A9BE70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="patch.makefile" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="patch.makefile" *** /home/girgen/netatalk/netatalk-1.4b2/etc/afpd/Makefile Tue Dec 30 19:12:36 1997 --- etc/afpd/Makefile Wed Dec 31 01:37:29 1997 *************** *** 10,16 **** INCPATH= -I../../include ${AFSINCPATH} ${KRBINCPATH} CFLAGS= ${DEFS} ${AFSDEFS} ${KRBDEFS} ${OPTOPTS} ${INCPATH} \ ! -DAPPLCNAME -DCRLF # -DDOWNCASE LIBS= -latalk ${AFSLIBS} ${KRBLIBS} ${ADDLIBS} LIBDIRS= -L../../libatalk ${AFSLIBDIRS} ${KRBLIBDIRS} TAGSFILE= tags --- 10,16 ---- INCPATH= -I../../include ${AFSINCPATH} ${KRBINCPATH} CFLAGS= ${DEFS} ${AFSDEFS} ${KRBDEFS} ${OPTOPTS} ${INCPATH} \ ! -DAPPLCNAME -DCRLF -DISO_FILENAMES # -DDOWNCASE LIBS= -latalk ${AFSLIBS} ${KRBLIBS} ${ADDLIBS} LIBDIRS= -L../../libatalk ${AFSLIBDIRS} ${KRBLIBDIRS} TAGSFILE= tags --------------D6CE569BB33EBC3F71A9BE70-- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 7 19:53:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA04710 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 19:53:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA04703 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 19:53:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA11770; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 19:53:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA11762 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 19:53:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from newsgate.dircon.co.uk (newsgate.dircon.co.uk [194.112.32.150]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA11758 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 19:53:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from nan.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by newsgate.dircon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.7) with UUCP id AAA04418 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 00:53:26 GMT Received: by mailhost.nan.co.uk (sendmail 8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA03860; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 00:49:24 GMT X-Sender: sw@mailhost.nan.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 3.1 Organization: Network Analysis Ltd Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 00:48:27 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Sak Wathanasin Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems with netatalk+asun 18 on Solaris 2.5.2 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Some time ago (Dec 01), a J. Stenberg sent the following message to this list: > ... > I get this when I install Netatalk1.4b2 as well. With the umich package > (non a sun-ed) I can do just about everything regardless of this apparent > problem. However Netatalk1.4b2+asun.. (latest version as far as I know > from your site) has a problem. Everything loads up and the server is > available to apple clients but when a client tries to login with the > chooser there is a long pause before available volumes are listed. Then, > it shows the user the home directory but when clicked it says that a pipe > was broken. > ... Were there any responses to this message? I couldn't find any. I'm having the same problems after installing netatalk 1.4b2+asun 18 on a Solaris 2.5.2 box. This same version has been running just fine on my Linux (RH 5.0, 2.0.32 kernel). It builds and installs fine, then when I try connecting to it, I see exactly the symptoms described above. I've found that the "long pause" is due to a core dump by afpd (?). Also, if I run as anything other then root doing pap for example, I get nbp_lookup: Permission denied I suspect these problems are not unrelated. I've checked the permissions compared with my Linux box and everything looks fine. Has anyone else run into this or has any ideas as to what might be causing this? Many thanks. Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK Internet: sw@nan.co.uk Phone: (+44) 1203 419996 Fax: (+44) 1203 690690 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 7 20:20:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA05536 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:20:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA05532 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:20:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA24001; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:20:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA23999 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:20:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.alcatraz.net (mail.alcatraz.net [209.78.194.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA23995 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:20:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from alcatraz.net ([209.78.192.69]) by mail.alcatraz.net (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with ESMTP id AAA3549; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 17:20:29 -0700 Message-ID: <34B42A11.826BB865@alcatraz.net> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 17:21:21 -0800 From: Masaharu Fukuyama Organization: ALCATRAZ digital media, inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems with netatalk+asun 18 on Solaris 2.5.2 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've got same problem 1st time when I successfully compiled and installed, but after I comment out PAM module and put -DSHADOWPW flag in Makefile, everything works fine. Sak Wathanasin wrote: > > Some time ago (Dec 01), a J. Stenberg sent the following message to this list: > > > ... > > I get this when I install Netatalk1.4b2 as well. With the umich package > > (non a sun-ed) I can do just about everything regardless of this apparent > > problem. However Netatalk1.4b2+asun.. (latest version as far as I know > > from your site) has a problem. Everything loads up and the server is > > available to apple clients but when a client tries to login with the > > chooser there is a long pause before available volumes are listed. Then, > > it shows the user the home directory but when clicked it says that a pipe > > was broken. > > ... > > Were there any responses to this message? I couldn't find any. I'm having the > same problems after installing netatalk 1.4b2+asun 18 on a Solaris 2.5.2 box. > This same version has been running just fine on my Linux (RH 5.0, 2.0.32 > kernel). > > It builds and installs fine, then when I try connecting to it, I see exactly > the symptoms described above. I've found that the "long pause" is due to a core > dump by afpd (?). Also, if I run as anything other then root doing pap for > example, I get > > nbp_lookup: Permission denied > > I suspect these problems are not unrelated. I've checked the permissions > compared with my Linux box and everything looks fine. > > Has anyone else run into this or has any ideas as to what might be causing this? > > Many thanks. > > Sak Wathanasin > Network Analysis Limited > 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK > > Internet: sw@nan.co.uk > Phone: (+44) 1203 419996 Fax: (+44) 1203 690690 -- Masaharu Fukuyama ALCATRAZ digital media, inc. ALCATRAZ digital image, inc. VE information systems, inc. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 7 21:14:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA07835 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:14:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA07830 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:14:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA26752; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:14:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA26750 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:14:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from ocee.groupsys.com (ocee.groupsys.com [155.229.202.35]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA26744 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:14:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from ocee.groupsys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ocee.groupsys.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA15014; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:14:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199801080214.VAA15014@ocee.groupsys.com> To: Sak Wathanasin cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems with netatalk+asun 18 on Solaris 2.5.2 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 08 Jan 1998 00:48:27 GMT." Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 21:14:40 -0500 From: William LeFebvre Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sak wrote: > Has anyone else run into this or has any ideas as to what might be causing > this? I see the exact same symptoms trying to run 1.4b2asun2.0a17.2 under Solaris 2.5.1 (uname -a says "SunOS ocee 5.5.1 Generic_103640-08 sun4m sparc SUNW,SPARCstation-5"). I also have no solution but am eager to find one. Straight 1.4b2 worked fine. William LeFebvre Group sys Consulting +1 770 813 3224 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 7 21:24:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA08528 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:24:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA08518 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:24:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA06663; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:24:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA06661 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:24:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA06657 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:24:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA27276; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:24:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from cec.mtu.edu (root@cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.196]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21413; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:24:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from critter.cec.mtu.edu (critter.cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.204]) by cec.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/mtumailer-1.2) with SMTP id VAA06462; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:24:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:24:57 -0500 (EST) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@critter.cec.mtu.edu Reply-To: Edan Idzerda To: Sak Wathanasin cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems with netatalk+asun 18 on Solaris 2.5.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Sak Wathanasin wrote: > dump by afpd (?). Also, if I run as anything other then root doing pap for > example, I get > > nbp_lookup: Permission denied Are you sure that nbp_lookup and other friends don't need to be suid root? Or at least setgid some device-reading critter? I don't know anything about the hanging/coredumping. Hope this helps. - edan From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 8 10:44:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA00620 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:44:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA00534 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:44:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id KAA08623; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:45:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id KAA08543 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:45:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from zapf.fb15.uni-dortmund.de (Zapf.FB15.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.234.36]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA08291 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:44:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from voelker@localhost) by zapf.fb15.uni-dortmund.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id QAA16468; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 16:41:16 +0100 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 16:41:16 +0100 (MET) From: Hendrik Voelker To: Netatalk List Subject: [netatalk-admins] Networkproblems :-( Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folkes, I have run in a problem I cannot solve, so perhapes someone here might suggest a solution. Before ich describe the problem, I will give you a quick overview over auch environment, because I supect the router to be the problem. We run a little LAN wich is chopped into chunks of 10base2 Ethernet. The chunks are connecte via a router. Router: ATI CentreCOM 3008SL IEE802.3 8 Port Repeater (+ ATI CentreCOM 210ST TwistedPair-Transceiver) Host: SUN SPARCStation 5 running Linux 2.0.30, RedHat-Distribution 4.2 Netatalk V1.4b2 orig with a fix of my own. In addition to the 8 Ethernet-Ports (RG58) the Repeater includes an AUI-Port wich is used to hook the SUN via the TwistedPair-Transceiver. This is done because the SUN dose not have other Ethernet-Ports than an AUI and a TP and this was the cheapest solution available. Problem: Netatalk runs fine, but it cannot find the other MACs on the net (nbplkup) and vice versa the Macs cannot find the Sun. The MACs, though they are on different chunks, find the each other without any problems. Has someone a suggestion where the problem could be? cu Hendrik -- Hendrik Voelker /////// OO voelker@ifj.fb15.uni-dortmund.de U N I D O /// ii JJ ______/////// ii JJ PGP-FP: Institute for Journalistics \_\_\_\///// ii JJ D2 63 EF 98 Department 15 \_\_\_\/// JJ 5C 66 D5 C5 University of Dortmund \_\_\_\/ JJ JJ 4D 9B 2B 90 Germany JJJ C5 7F 7A 7D V+49-231-755-2827 * F+49-231-755-5583 * P+49-1681-9916374 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 8 11:51:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA11268 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:51:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA11116 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:51:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA27086; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:51:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA26986 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:51:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from phibes.dartmouth.edu (phibes.dartmouth.edu [129.170.18.45]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA26240 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:49:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from paw@localhost) by phibes.dartmouth.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) id LAA13806 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:49:16 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:49:16 -0500 From: paw@northstar.dartmouth.edu Message-Id: <199801081649.LAA13806@phibes.dartmouth.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] scaling issues Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I looked quickly through the list archive and didn't find much (BTW, anyone got a _searchable_ archive of the list?) - how well does netatalk fileservice scale? I'm "exporting" out of AFS, so there are certainly lots of variables, but in general, how many simultaneous Mac accesses for what sorts of hardware are folks running? Many thanks. Apologies if I've overlooked the correct archived thread... Pat Wilson paw@dartmouth.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 8 12:33:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA16105 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:33:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA16097 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:33:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA21974; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:34:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA21954 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:34:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.88.162]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA21861 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:33:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from keiths-mac.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.88.112]; by hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5/S-4.0) with ESMTP; for ""; id RAA08892; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:32:53 GMT X-Sender: keithc@pophost.dcs.qmw.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:32:44 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Keith Clarke Subject: [netatalk-admins] FreeBSD and Netatalk1.4b2 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi netatalk people Help please! I'm trying to build a netatalk service on a FreeBSD box (2.2.5 -STABLE) and get the following messages when trying to start it: # sh rc.atalk starting appletalk daemons:AppleTalk not up! Child exited with 1. atalkdJan 8 17:16:22 iron atalkd[1597]: addmulti: Address family not supported by protocol family Jan 8 17:16:22 iron atalkd[1597]: addmulti: Address family not supported by pro tocol family nbp_rgstr: Operation timed out Can't register iron:Workstation@* nbp_rgstr: Operation timed out Can't register iron:netatalk@* nbprgstr papd afpd. # There are other netatalk servers/routers on the network; this one is intended to do simple serving with the following config file: # less atalkd.conf fxp0 -phase 2 -net 9279 -addr 9279.174 -zone "qmw-DCS" # This is consistent with the other servers (same -net, other m/c is -addr 9279.176, same zone). Thanks for any help that might come this way, and apologies if I'm just overlooking something stupid - the person who made the original set up has moved on. Keith Clarke ps for what it's worth, rc.atalk does simple stuff: echo -n 'starting appletalk daemons:' if [ -f /usr/local/atalk/etc/atalkd ]; then /usr/local/atalk/etc/atalkd -f /usr/local/atalk/etc/atalkd.conf; echo -n ' atalkd' fi if [ -f /usr/local/atalk/bin/nbprgstr ]; then /usr/local/atalk/bin/nbprgstr -p 4 `hostname|sed 's/\..*$//'`:Workstatio n /usr/local/atalk/bin/nbprgstr -p 4 `hostname|sed 's/\..*$//'`:netatalk echo -n ' nbprgstr' fi if [ -f /usr/local/atalk/etc/papd ]; then /usr/local/atalk/etc/papd; echo -n ' papd' fi if [ -f /usr/local/atalk/etc/afpd ]; then /usr/local/atalk/etc/afpd -c 128 -n " Perilous Server"; echo -n ' afpd' fi if [ -f /usr/local/atalk/etc/timelord ]; then /usr/local/atalk/etc/timelord; echo -n ' timelord' fi echo '.' # From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 8 12:36:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA16417 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:36:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA16394 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:36:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA13556; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:36:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA13495 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:35:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from ocee.groupsys.com (ocee.groupsys.com [155.229.202.35]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA13111 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:34:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from ocee.groupsys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ocee.groupsys.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA15779; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:31:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199801081731.MAA15779@ocee.groupsys.com> To: Hendrik Voelker cc: Netatalk List Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Networkproblems :-( In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 08 Jan 1998 16:41:16 +0100." Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 12:31:02 -0500 From: William LeFebvre Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu You wrote: > We run a little LAN wich is chopped into chunks of 10base2 Ethernet. The > chunks are connecte via a router. > > Router: ATI CentreCOM 3008SL IEE802.3 8 Port Repeater > (+ ATI CentreCOM 210ST TwistedPair-Transceiver) I hate to be nitpicky, but that is not a router. That's a repeater. There is a difference (a very big difference). > Problem: Netatalk runs fine, but it cannot find the other MACs on the > net (nbplkup) and vice versa the Macs cannot find the Sun. > The MACs, though they are on different chunks, find the each other > without any problems. > > Has someone a suggestion where the problem could be? Are there any IP devices on any of the 10-base-2 segments? Can they see the Sun? Or to put it another way, is that AUI port on the repeater working correctly? Did you use a conventional AUI cable to connect the sun to the repeater? The lone AUI port has me suspicious: are you sure it is supposed to be used for a host connection and not as a link in to another repeater? If you have some sort of connectivity between the thinnet segments and the Sun, then it is strictly an Appletalk problem. So that's what I would test next. Alternatively, 10-base-2 transceivers are pretty cheap. See if you can buy, beg, borrow, or steal one and get the Sun hooked in to one of the 10-base-2 segments. Then see if your problems go away. William LeFebvre Group sys Consulting +1 770 813 3224 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 8 13:36:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA23148 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:36:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA23088 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:36:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id NAA15057; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:36:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id NAA14606 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:35:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.ufl.edu (sp04.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.175.134]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA14239 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:34:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pbc.circa.ufl.edu (pbc.circa.ufl.edu [128.227.8.170]) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/1.5.1) with SMTP id NAA32146 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:33:23 -0500 From: "Leo Wierzbowski" To: Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk & kerberos 5 auth? Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:33:27 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd1c63$e91bdfa0$aa08e380@pbc.circa.ufl.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is there a way to make netatalk (freebsd, but could switch to linux if needed) do a krb5 authentication when it gets the username and password from a stock appleshare client? I don't want to require krb5 on the mac yet, but I'd like netatalk to auth the afp users against our campus krb5 server (then use a single "labuser" acct to let them access applications and scratch space volumes, or alternatively create the user acct on the fly if needed). Does anyone have netatalk working with a krb5 uam? Sincerely, Leo Wierzbowski http://grove.ufl.edu/~leo/ Martin Luther King Jr. Day Quotes: http://grove.ufl.edu/~leo/mlk.html "The University of Florida does not endorse or disendorse the content of this document. Everything is the author's private opinion." From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 8 13:50:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA25475 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:50:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA25458 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:50:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA09054; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:50:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA09042 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:50:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhub.hitchcock.org (MAILHUB.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.100]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id NAA09019 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:50:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailbox1.Hitchcock.ORG (MAILBOX1.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.110]) by mailhub.hitchcock.org (8.6.12-DND/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA10052; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:50:32 -0500 Message-id: <14599712@mailbox1.Hitchcock.ORG> Date: 08 Jan 98 13:51:35 EST From: William.P.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG (William P. McGonigle) Reply-To: Bill.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk & kerberos 5 auth? To: leow@ufl.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --- "Leo Wierzbowski" wrote: Is there a way to make netatalk (freebsd, but could switch to linux if needed) do a krb5 authentication when it gets the username and password from a stock appleshare client? --- end of quote --- I only went partly down this road, but I believe the answer is that you run the Kerberos 4 compatibility server with your Kerberos 5 KDC. It seemed you also needed AFS for the authentication, and you have to apply a mod to AFS to get it to use Kerberos-standard encryption. I'm unclear, as I stopped when I found that to get AFS now, you've got to call your Transarc sales rep. -Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 8 13:53:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA25908 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:53:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from us.itd.umich.edu (stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu [141.211.164.7]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA25848 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:53:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id NAA06383; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:53:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id NAA06380; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:53:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from toastman.us.itd.umich.edu by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA06374; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:53:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by toastman.us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/dumb-1.0) id NAA29268; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:53:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:53:48 -0500 (EST) From: Scott Venier X-Sender: scottven@toastman.us.itd.umich.edu To: Leo Wierzbowski cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: netatalk & kerberos 5 auth? In-Reply-To: <01bd1c63$e91bdfa0$aa08e380@pbc.circa.ufl.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu You could use a sun's additions to use PAM (would require a switch to linux), and use the a kerb5 PAM module. You could hack at the PAM module (or layer in another one) to do what ever specific user account creation/changing that you want it to do. Scott On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Leo Wierzbowski wrote: > Is there a way to make netatalk (freebsd, but could switch to linux if > needed) do a krb5 authentication when it gets the username and > password from a stock appleshare client? > > I don't want to require krb5 on the mac yet, but I'd like netatalk to > auth the afp users against our campus krb5 server (then use a single > "labuser" acct to let them access applications and scratch space > volumes, or alternatively create the user acct on the fly if needed). > > Does anyone have netatalk working with a krb5 uam? > > Sincerely, > Leo Wierzbowski > > http://grove.ufl.edu/~leo/ > > Martin Luther King Jr. Day Quotes: http://grove.ufl.edu/~leo/mlk.html > > "The University of Florida does not endorse or > disendorse the content of this document. > Everything is the author's private opinion." > > ===================================================================== Scott Venier *ResComp Network Support Technician scottven@umich.edu *Consultant for Ingematics, scott@compu-aid.com a division of Compu-Aid, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 8 15:17:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA05690 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 15:17:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA05681 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 15:16:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA25629; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 15:17:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA25480 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 15:17:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from voyager.dynamind-llc.com (voyager.dynamind-llc.com [206.153.113.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id PAA25461 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 15:17:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from dyna-ntserver by voyager.dynamind-llc.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA13243; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 15:17:20 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980108151638.00e7b360@dynamind-llc.com> X-Sender: philip@dynamind-llc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 15:16:38 -0500 To: Vivek , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: "Philip S. Wachtel" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and samba cooperation In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.19980107085853.00e75620@dynamind-llc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hey! Thanks for the advice. I've been trying to figure out how to construct such a script, but I'm falling short. Could you by any chance give me an example or tell me where I can find the one that was already done? I would really appreciate it. I have a bunch of users on this thing and the .Apple* files are scaring me. :-) Thanks very much! Philip At 02:18 PM 1/7/98 +0000, you wrote: >On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Philip S. Wachtel wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I'm using netatalk and samba to export a shared volume to both pcs and >> macs. Things are working well, but I do have two questions. >> >> 1. If a Mac user puts something on the volume and a PC user deletes or >> moves it, files are left in the .AppleDouble and I think in the >> .AppleDesktop as well. Does anyone know how to keep things straight under >> these conditions? > >Off the top of my head, you could write a script to prune orphaned >.AppleDouble entries, [I believe someone on the list already did this], >and run that from time to time, or via cron, or at boot-time, or when the >moon is gibbous[you get the idea :)], or you could compile the hfs module >with the tweak for sharing via netatalk, and export the whole hfs >partition. > >-- >fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 8 15:41:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA08301 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 15:41:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA08282 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 15:40:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA00474; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 15:40:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA00471 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 15:40:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA00457 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 15:40:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA00476; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:34:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from UNKNOWN(), claiming to be "current1.whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd000474; Thu Jan 8 12:34:50 1998 Message-ID: <34B537B3.167EB0E7@whistle.com> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 12:31:47 -0800 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Keith Clarke CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] FreeBSD and Netatalk1.4b2 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Keith Clarke wrote: did you install the patch mentionned in the 2.2.5 erratum on ftp.freebsd.org? the netatalk code was broken in the 2.2.5 release and a patch came out a few days later.. > > Hi netatalk people > > Help please! > > I'm trying to build a netatalk service on a FreeBSD box (2.2.5 -STABLE) and > get the following messages when trying to start it: > > # sh rc.atalk > starting appletalk daemons:AppleTalk not up! Child exited with 1. > atalkdJan 8 17:16:22 iron atalkd[1597]: addmulti: Address family not > supported > by protocol family > Jan 8 17:16:22 iron atalkd[1597]: addmulti: Address family not supported > by pro > tocol family > nbp_rgstr: Operation timed out > Can't register iron:Workstation@* > nbp_rgstr: Operation timed out > Can't register iron:netatalk@* > nbprgstr papd afpd. > # > > There are other netatalk servers/routers on the network; this one is > intended to do simple serving with the following config file: > > # less atalkd.conf > fxp0 -phase 2 -net 9279 -addr 9279.174 -zone "qmw-DCS" > # > > This is consistent with the other servers (same -net, other m/c is -addr > 9279.176, same zone). > > Thanks for any help that might come this way, and apologies if I'm just > overlooking something stupid - the person who made the original set up has > moved on. > > Keith Clarke > > ps > for what it's worth, rc.atalk does simple stuff: > > echo -n 'starting appletalk daemons:' > if [ -f /usr/local/atalk/etc/atalkd ]; then > /usr/local/atalk/etc/atalkd -f /usr/local/atalk/etc/atalkd.conf; > echo -n ' atalkd' > fi > > if [ -f /usr/local/atalk/bin/nbprgstr ]; then > /usr/local/atalk/bin/nbprgstr -p 4 `hostname|sed > 's/\..*$//'`:Workstatio > n > /usr/local/atalk/bin/nbprgstr -p 4 `hostname|sed 's/\..*$//'`:netatalk > echo -n ' nbprgstr' > fi > > if [ -f /usr/local/atalk/etc/papd ]; then > /usr/local/atalk/etc/papd; echo -n ' papd' > fi > > if [ -f /usr/local/atalk/etc/afpd ]; then > /usr/local/atalk/etc/afpd -c 128 -n " Perilous Server"; echo -n > ' afpd' > fi > > if [ -f /usr/local/atalk/etc/timelord ]; then > /usr/local/atalk/etc/timelord; echo -n ' timelord' > fi > > echo '.' > # From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 8 18:22:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA18944 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 18:22:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA18937 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 18:22:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA05369; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 18:23:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA05367 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 18:23:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from newsgate.dircon.co.uk (newsgate.dircon.co.uk [194.112.32.150]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA05362 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 18:23:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from nan.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by newsgate.dircon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.7) with UUCP id XAA29052 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 23:22:23 GMT Received: by mailhost.nan.co.uk (sendmail 8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA06829; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 23:20:50 GMT X-Sender: sw@mailhost.nan.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 3.1 Organization: Network Analysis Ltd Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 23:19:57 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Sak Wathanasin Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems with netatalk+asun 18 on Solaris 2.5.2 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In reply to Edan Idzerda's message of the 07/01/98 at 21:24 -0500, > Are you sure that nbp_lookup and other friends don't need to be suid root? I'm not at all sure; in fact, setting pap, papstatus and nbplkup to suid root lets me print (:-). But I'm not sure why - is it /dev/ddp? Linux doesn't need it, and I'm not yet Solaris-savvy. I'm generally unhappy about suid root unless it's really unnecessary. Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK Internet: sw@nan.co.uk Phone: (+44) 1203 419996 Fax: (+44) 1203 690690 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 8 19:22:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA20701 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:22:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA20693 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:22:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA10584; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:22:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA10582 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:22:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from aumgn.free.de (aumgn.free.de [194.77.227.205]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id TAA10543 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:22:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 20289 invoked from network); 9 Jan 1998 00:21:10 -0000 Received: from anarch.free.de (194.77.227.133) by aumgn.free.de with SMTP; 9 Jan 1998 00:21:10 -0000 Received: from doo.donut.de by anarch.free.de with bsmtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0xqSBt-000B72C; Fri, 9 Jan 98 01:20 MET Received: by doo.donut.de (UUCPfZ V5.81 U011) via ZConnect; 8 Jan 98 22:54:16 +0200 Date: 8 Jan 98 22:37:00 +0100 From: BASICBAER@emcom.doo.donut.de (Hendrik T. Voelker) Organization: EmCom Reply-To: voelker@zapf.fb15.uni-dortmund.de Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Networkproblems :-( To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Message-ID: <6lT4Zd2uyPB@emcom.doo.donut.de> In-Reply-To: <199801081731.MAA15779@ocee.groupsys.com> X-Mailer: CrossPoint v3.11 R/A66, NEPHTHYS V1.2 X-Gateway: ZCONNECT UH doo.donut.de [UUCPfZ V5.81 U011] X-ZC-Telefon: V+49-2330-2110Q P+49-1681-9916374 F+49-234-707083 X-ZC-Post: Raabestrasse 1; D-58313 Herdecke; BRD X-ZC-VIA: 19980108215037W+01:00@emcom.doo.donut.de Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- 08 Jan 98 Hi William on 08 Jan 98 you wrote a message under the subject "Re: [netatalk-admins] Networkproblems :-(" (MSGID: 199801081731.MAA15779@ocee.groupsys.com) WL> I hate to be nitpicky, but that is not a router. That's a repeater. WL> There is a difference (a very big difference). Yeah, I know. But sometimes there are slips :-) WL> Are there any IP devices on any of the 10-base-2 segments? Can they WL> see the Sun? Yes, there are, and they can see the sun. WL> Did you use a conventional AUI cable to connect the sun to the repeater? No, the Transceiver is hooked directly to the AUI-Port. There is a crossed TP cable from the transceiver to the sun. WL> The lone AUI port has me suspicious: WL> are you sure it is supposed to be used for a host connection and not WL> as a link in to another repeater? Thats the question that accoured to me, too. But ... will this port not pass every frame from the other ports to another machine, if it is a repeater or the sun? Or will it pass IP-Frames only? The difference is not completely clear to me. WL> Alternatively, 10-base-2 transceivers are pretty cheap. See if you WL> can buy, beg, borrow, or steal one and get the Sun hooked in to one of WL> the 10-base-2 segments. Then see if your problems go away. Yes, thats the next test. But Mail is even cheaper than a 10-base-2 transceiver ;-) cu Hendrik - -- Hendrik Voelker /////// OO voelker@ifj.fb15.uni-dortmund.de U N I D O /// ii JJ ______/////// ii JJ PGP-FP: Institute for Journalistics \_\_\_\///// ii JJ D2 63 EF 98 Department 15 \_\_\_\/// JJ 5C 66 D5 C5 University of Dortmund \_\_\_\/ JJ JJ 4D 9B 2B 90 Germany JJJ C5 7F 7A 7D V+49-231-755-2827 * F+49-231-755-5583 * P+49-1681-9916374 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i Comment: Requires PGP version 2.6 or later. iQCVAwUBNLVHJ6pqRr2ULMh5AQHqZAP+KNrcVf/FQpkgnpuF+lgBj4ycNfOozDb3 g3pvEGkPfdNTBNLCCTH8R8VVxpum3mqnNrE94Lo0OoYcbzYx+B7NzvK+e/oT/XVZ dHsRuyiWm5XpqJkFkjgQ/FS4qiNuUgI7bCvZ3sDqzgq4VByJ+5T4PSRurCsVP+Py Yv22Z1P2YNo= =pd9e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 8 20:50:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA26912 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 20:50:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA26908 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 20:50:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id UAA06039; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 20:51:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id UAA06035 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 20:51:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.advancenet.net (hermes.cu-online.com [205.198.248.82]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA06023 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 20:51:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.argus-systems.com (ranger.argus-systems.com [206.221.232.80]) by mail.advancenet.net (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA06526; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 20:52:45 -0600 Received: from localhost by mail.argus-systems.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA14079; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:49:19 -0600 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:49:19 -0600 From: Andrew McNabb To: "Philip S. Wachtel" cc: Vivek , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and samba cooperation In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980108151638.00e7b360@dynamind-llc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu It seems to me that it wouldn't be very difficult to write a samba patch that is netatalk friendly. It could keep track of appledouble, special characters in filenames, etc. I'm not good enough at programming, but I would appreciate it if such a patch were available. ------------------------------- Andrew McNabb I am an International Arms Trafficker!!!!! Argus Systems Group http://online.offshore.com.ai/arms-trafficker/ amcnabb@argus-systems.com ------------------------------- On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Philip S. Wachtel wrote: > Hey! Thanks for the advice. I've been trying to figure out how to > construct such a script, but I'm falling short. Could you by any chance > give me an example or tell me where I can find the one that was already > done? I would really appreciate it. I have a bunch of users on this thing > and the .Apple* files are scaring me. :-) > > Thanks very much! > > Philip > > At 02:18 PM 1/7/98 +0000, you wrote: > >On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Philip S. Wachtel wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I'm using netatalk and samba to export a shared volume to both pcs and > >> macs. Things are working well, but I do have two questions. > >> > >> 1. If a Mac user puts something on the volume and a PC user deletes or > >> moves it, files are left in the .AppleDouble and I think in the > >> .AppleDesktop as well. Does anyone know how to keep things straight under > >> these conditions? > > > >Off the top of my head, you could write a script to prune orphaned > >.AppleDouble entries, [I believe someone on the list already did this], > >and run that from time to time, or via cron, or at boot-time, or when the > >moon is gibbous[you get the idea :)], or you could compile the hfs module > >with the tweak for sharing via netatalk, and export the whole hfs > >partition. > > > >-- > >fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex > > > > > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 8 21:32:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA28769 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:32:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA28762 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:31:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA04808; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:31:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA04788 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:31:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA04740 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA00361; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:31:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from cec.mtu.edu (root@cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.196]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA24292; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:31:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from critter.cec.mtu.edu (critter.cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.204]) by cec.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/mtumailer-1.2) with SMTP id VAA09583; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:31:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:31:27 -0500 (EST) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@critter.cec.mtu.edu To: Andrew McNabb cc: "Philip S. Wachtel" , Vivek , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and samba cooperation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Andrew McNabb wrote: > It seems to me that it wouldn't be very difficult to write a samba patch > that is netatalk friendly. It could keep track of appledouble, special > characters in filenames, etc. I'm not good enough at programming, but I > would appreciate it if such a patch were available. I think this seems like a more efficient solution than runing some nasty cron job, though I suppose it would cost you an extra stat() or two for every unlink(). As a per-share option it would probably be fine, though. I might look at doing this because I think it would be a nice addition to their coexistence--though in a race I'm sure Jeremy Allison could beat me. :) (Apologies if I spelled his named wrong.) - edan -- Edan Idzerda System Administrator -- Michigan Technological University, Houghton MI USA From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 8 23:05:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id XAA01543 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 23:05:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA01539 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 23:05:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id XAA01572; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 23:06:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id XAA01569 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 23:06:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA01565 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 23:06:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt2-57.HiWAAY.net [208.147.148.57]) by fly.HiWAAY.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA02131; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 22:05:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id VAA13391; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:57:23 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199801090357.VAA13391@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Keith Clarke cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] FreeBSD and Netatalk1.4b2 In-reply-to: Message from Keith Clarke of "Thu, 08 Jan 1998 17:32:44 GMT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 21:57:23 -0600 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Hi netatalk people > > Help please! > > I'm trying to build a netatalk service on a FreeBSD box (2.2.5 -STABLE) and > get the following messages when trying to start it: > > # sh rc.atalk > starting appletalk daemons:AppleTalk not up! Child exited with 1. > atalkdJan 8 17:16:22 iron atalkd[1597]: addmulti: Address family not > supported by protocol family Isn't the above the message generated when the following is missing from your kernel config file? # (this is from /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT) options NETATALK #Appletalk communications protocols -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 9 00:49:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id AAA12622 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 00:49:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA12616 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 00:49:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA09376; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 00:49:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA09374 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 00:49:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id AAA09367 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 00:49:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA22884 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:35:10 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA14670; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:49:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:49:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199801090549.VAA14670@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] minor patch update to my netatalk patches Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu i think i've pretty much figured out the problem with my patches on solaris machines. it turns out that i didn't merge in the prodos support completely and ended up calling a function with one fewer argument than required. much unhappiness ensued. oh yeah, the patch also deletes the linux 2.0.30 diff as well as fixes a tcp wrapper header problem that manifested under *bsd. the patch is called a18-a18.1.diff.gz and it's at ftp.u.washington.edu:/public/asun. let me know if it works for you. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 9 01:26:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id BAA13633 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 01:26:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA13629 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 01:26:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id BAA26708; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 01:27:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id BAA26699 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 01:27:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from kent.ansto.gov.au (kent.ansto.gov.au [137.157.45.204]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id BAA26695 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 01:27:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from frank@localhost) by kent.ansto.gov.au (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id RAA13288 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:26:30 +1100 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:26:30 +1100 From: frank@kent.ansto.gov.au (Frank Crawford) Message-Id: <9801091726.ZM13287@kent.ansto.gov.au> In-Reply-To: frank (Frank Crawford) "Re: [netatalk-admins] Talking to HP Deckjet printer" (Dec 31, 11:25am) References: <34A70B24.1615705C@partitur.se> <9712311125.ZM4646@kent.ansto.gov.au> Reply-To: frank@ansto.gov.au X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Using lpdaemon on the Printer port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I originally sent this out over Christmas, but didn't get any response (it must have been the season) so I'm asking again. I need to use lpdaemon, to talk to a HP Deskjet connected to my Mac but I don't know the correct settings for a printer connected to the printer port. I know this is a little outside scope of this list, but can anyone suggest the right settings (or a better contact for me)? The sample config file says (for a serial printer): PRINTER SERIAL [baud stop parity bits] is the spool queue, but is the name of the serial driver, which I don't know, and the "[baud ...]" I wouldn't have thought I needed for the printer port. After all, isn't it a parallel port of some sort. (I come from a Unix and PC background, so I don't know much about the low level stuff of the Mac, it works so I don't normally play with it. :-)) Frank -- Frank Crawford Email: frank@ansto.gov.au Postal: PMB 1 Site Systems Manager Phone: +61 2 9717 3015 Menai NSW 2234 ANSTO Fax: +61 2 9717 9273 Australia PGP Fingerprint: (8BB1C821) 06 4F 35 82 1D D6 0E 56 9F AB B8 F7 67 AF 1A 9D From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 9 11:42:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA09761 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:42:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA09756 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:42:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA27092; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:42:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA26988 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:41:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mixer.visi.com (mixer.visi.com [209.98.98.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA26250 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:39:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from thumper.visi.com (jarrod@thumper.visi.com [209.98.98.3]) by mixer.visi.com (8.8.6/8.7.5) with SMTP id KAA27566 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:39:57 -0600 (CST) Posted-Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:39:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:39:56 -0600 (CST) From: "J. Stenberg" X-Sender: jarrod@thumper.visi.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] solaris netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17.2 setup question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello. I have a solaris Ultra AX running Solaris 2.5.1 with netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17.2 running on it. Everything has worked fine with little need for configuration beyond the default. However, this syetm has been disconnected from the world until now. When I attempt to connect it to the world (the LAN to the WAN) the system crashes. Why do I think it's a netatalk issue? There are some indicaters in my var/adm logs that indicate some problems with afpd and atalkd. So, I have a working LAN with many macs on it running netatalk just fine. I plug the wire from the router into the hub and very shortly thereafter my whole world comes crashing down. The wire from the router has good (not evil) coming through it since I am using it right now (hooked directly to a mac). So here' the early sign of trouble: Jan 8 11:54:33 pequod atalkd[166]: rtmp_packet: can't remove loopback: No such file or directory Jan 8 11:54:35 pequod atalkd[166]: looproute panic two routes Jan 8 11:54:35 pequod atalkd[166]: zip_packet: can't route 2511.3 to loopback: Resource temporarily unavailable Jan 8 11:54:35 pequod atalkd[166]: ap->ap_packet: Resource temporarily unavailable This is just a few minutes before the collapse and likely after I plugged the router connection into the hub. Here is the dialog of the crash itself: Jan 8 11:57:55 pequod unix: BAD TRAP: cpu=0 type=0x31 rp=0x301d1570 addr=0x0 mmu_fsr=0x0 Jan 8 11:57:55 pequod unix: afpd: trap type = 0x31 Jan 8 11:57:55 pequod unix: pid=178, pc=0x1005b858, sp=0x0, tstate=0x301d160000000099, context=0x1e05 Jan 8 11:57:55 pequod unix: g1-g7: 0, c363d9, 1005217c, 560, 0, 0, 502c04c0 Jan 8 11:57:55 pequod unix: Begin traceback... sp = 301d1600 Jan 8 11:57:55 pequod unix: Called from 50522134, fp=301d1660, args=504e3d38 50538422 ffffffff 504e3d38 5047c4c8 5047c460 Jan 8 11:57:55 pequod unix: Called from 505203bc, fp=301d16d0, args=50173e00 505382d0 505eb88c 5007fe60 7 34b512ed Jan 8 11:57:55 pequod unix: Called from 50522eb0, fp=301d1748, args=50173e00 505382d0 50160530 1 0 50538489 Jan 8 11:57:55 pequod unix: Called from 5052280c, fp=301d17c8, args=5016052c 501604d0 50160518 0 241022 9 Jan 8 11:57:56 pequod unix: Called from 50521304, fp=301d1838, args=504e2120 501604d0 502c04c0 5016053c 50160518 24 Jan 8 11:57:56 pequod unix: Called from 1002d5f0, fp=301d18a8, args=504e2120 501604d0 50533f40 10001 505212bc 5015f9a8 Jan 8 11:57:56 pequod unix: Called from 1008e5b0, fp=301d19c8, args=0 50533f40 301d1a28 0 50533f8c 3 Jan 8 11:57:56 pequod unix: Called from 1008e0e4, fp=301d1a40, args=504cf328 301d1b08 2 301d1aa7 301d1aa0 504c6b2c Jan 8 11:57:56 pequod unix: Called from 100521e8, fp=301d1aa8, args=504cf328 301d1b08 efffda80 0 ffffe000 efffdda0 Jan 8 11:57:56 pequod unix: Called from 1002b94c, fp=301d1b10, args=1 301d1b70 efffd708 0 1042dd94 504cf2c0 Jan 8 11:57:56 pequod unix: Called from ef787e08, fp=efffd640, args=1 efffd7a4 efffd708 0 ef5f35b8 3dccc Jan 8 11:57:56 pequod unix: End traceback... Jan 8 11:57:56 pequod unix: panic[cpu0]/thread=0x502c04c0: trap Of course there is a big clue in here since it also mentions afpd. I humbly admit it is my inexperience that is at work here (and quite possibly the true evil). Please help. I will go into the archives and search for an answer as well. I know people keep mentioning the SOlaris Kernel thingy: ask for it, but I don't know who to ask. Oh yeah, I should mention I am using a version of Solaris 2.5.1 from last april with no patches. I know I should get the suggested patches but I have delayed since I am unconnected to the world. Perhaps this is another clue for the helpful. Regards, -jarrod -- -- Jarrod P. Stenberg jarrod@denizen.net 612.646.6427 www.visi.com/~jarrod 612.901.6650 www.denizen.net "What the hell are you doing in my canoe!?" - Dubliner bar From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 9 12:12:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA12022 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:12:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA12018 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:12:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA07673; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:12:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA07638 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:12:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from faust27-s.rz.uni-frankfurt.de (faust27-s.rz.uni-frankfurt.de [141.2.149.151]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id MAA07538 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:12:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from devilbox (actually NAFp2-020.rz.uni-frankfurt.de) by anna-atm.rz.uni-frankfurt.de with Local SMTP (PP); Fri, 9 Jan 1998 18:11:55 +0000 Message-ID: <34B65A3B.3D234AFB@em.uni-frankfurt.de> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 18:11:23 +0100 From: "Robert O'Kane" Organization: OTHERSPACE X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.1.78 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] asun2+18-1 + Linux2.0.33 probs Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------7B400CE62BD9F2871110B980" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7B400CE62BD9F2871110B980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings, After upgrading to Linux 2.0.33 (pentium) netatalk stopped working. Users (registered or guest) are not able to create files. But directories are made. The error (on the Mac: OS8)is : Could not be copied because the file is in use. ? attached is the debug output for a failed copy session. Thanks for the help, Robert O'Kane -- */ ---------------------------------------------- Unfortunatly, I find language (like politics) necessary for humans. Leider finde Ich Sprache (wie Politik) fuer die Menschen notwendig. ---------------------------------------------- WHO : Robert O'Kane WHERE : Kunstlergruppe OTHERSPACE WHAT : Founding Member and Linker WHY : http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~okane HOW : okane@em.uni-frankfurt.de ---------------------------------------------- --------------7B400CE62BD9F2871110B980 Content-Type: application/x-gzip; name="appletalk.debug.gz" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="appletalk.debug.gz" H4sICP5StjQCA2FwcGxldGFsay5kZWJ1ZwDtXFtv2zYUfhZ/BbEBQwesBG8i5aK7+KZ2aNcG XbaHvQxuorZBncZQ3G3drx8PJVl3WU5k1eqkOIJjS/R3zndu5KFzcXN9vfpw+QgzDzGOqcKS YamwS7HgmC/hTH0sl1j5mFPsulgLrMyZY4eQqX/GCScvbvBvt0GIzAXmdm3elVh5cJlawvO6 w8HTj9t3wYdt8gJ6EHy4/BaFwWb96RGm32Eev3Kxw6kQo/igwyGFF0qfIpCQeGak5njBMJWY UkyXVhYKDzUHWUB8aWUX2JHkFTHHdLNZB/g8uEVGTBDfXDAB5cAIPqgR7mWgBD2FC5QC/ZhB nC1eXIWEnK1X23/xm48BMndFCpRz+3DtIHPsTlNNmmvMaDDmHDshnj5/viTkD6PBcLVeI3iL A1MxgDlIFN2rZMyagQQAuB1h9frGQHhl1BGEZx9fmxEmWIlDdHt1UanbHV9cIuZZMBSka9Zq pENjVwSnmt1itNNqW1RGs82MSxTjEQCspRUR0iSpkIhHahexvPGDx09Y5s94zK9I9qjA6aLs vV501pgmjyqcmfEqGUE0A7Od6KRS9BSm2kd7oytEhh/RvnOH0NCecYVWOMEdGnHqhHZ+BNp5 d7R7R6Sdd0f7ZB/t9cFrF6oi2pMQZgISau/nMc5wX3xnNOGdHYF31h3vjB2ReNYd8Yy3YL4x 9Zh4HjGfJp8rdFDqAaAXe5kXCfP0CMzTDpmXR2Sedsi8O5AMbwrFYaR4poeR480MoZZ5hn2/ NfPk2MxPUAwow8+uwNcq9zy6IFaoKer/gl9CYkoi/Yk5nlI8t6IaMegU68Tg2TwW247w2Pxu yT9WRNSsiLLYTqqUSMSDra+c4PdbH6coe7NH9wcMJ297FUA9xFUeItvH6jckb4BloElqbJ/K nMKYd9AoS/70IHtJr6jRs6dI+sAtnM08WQCxe1C9PH/553xRJ+pDlzLPiMsPAaux9k2ug/OB 9Jv8mLnZo1V5jeU8xskOCd6Cyv7U/HAiH0sP1Oau3AikcDSNIJYVzKYj/BCPkA25nzeU7aec AUhhWRMR5QnglPIfzY+Bhw4KQjYO5cNQhdFIlP34dkZj4QzHaArmEhlHxQg1GbohJOFBUu6O lPdOOS9RXg7sVsdVhKmRsM9D2F0zsR4z8ZiJDw3L3ujlw/LyyejlA/TyciaeYldhuSh6+e+/ QBPUtZijPhwsdGsQpL4J+uv2Jly9DRrng4KWVl8UYlNrQWWwLpZWDiHgT8ZgeqqzJMyIIOTl BkUrtFIBWFB8slQr7QptpHujZnMBtTNWJ/jg36wvg/D51e124ZMasKwIVnpI0ANXpOi+FSnB UfvhOi/GmLRtcbdoAi8C6AVrnfA/i205sgXonns24md07mz/vgnf4/NwdfsOg35RxMIBcgVh 00p4wovoJcgJOQa5Ew5yLuKippQxci1yRUwE1fk6kev7CBxqLmIq+E0Lme74TRpvngd7Nubd 8XvoymfG9EvtEaYRYzl1S6/VuuXTpshnmxtmoHTfik6WqWskcMhT2LPyuLZnAE3SaddNA6H7 iThelxHH6LKtRZJqixwjTpZyU/NOWjBuDDohKq+Yn0Ax0rLa1eaFJCFO7lEC+rEqC/n/PEBq YTWe1H/mrCc2QE5sXWhqrgUQkIK93pgKMPyEf94G17d1YCXtxZckG31pqFOUu1LOR8rHgq1t wXZ/fk+oYJOil4JNylLBNjvJgk26/UQcNUacL2IdrPciSA+nupTeQNoIctJlG+E0vXEA3d2Z sW77xZo85U9C+8UOBdTCauICthlFW2h1jbk6qzdX7x/O11ebJvt0SxMKlwONO7BKpivYdbu4 DI2EXIart4U0lfkobj6K9aoXvk8vjX7r8l5a9K4Yve5YXmeb6dV8ZQwqaz4ZUE9CMBPUxtFy oLIOVxlnXdlLsem6xWJzqeJicza/Y7FZOwnhmUlIXq+5SQjoFFUGsIKhM4N8Fj934iBmjZ08 kwRF72ZdRdmh4pIpG69YZKzPAMDFerOJYpTdFG4Ls9mkM3NvQ1jT3lZXVTf3qtUtcs29NDrm m3tHyRpUGbAa7SBUOPkSnsy8eNNsosNZtQ6rHLESqbNzyxjfkNKJ10866bSIW6qTTyfsNIq4 wkbxsnXFOaVrd4SvXe4277P7BqOdqB6K3fakMqdivWROxUuZ07/vMs0XvaNAiQHNd5TsZQlN 9bOEpjpdQlv64xLa/6PnqfSAlvuU148vTUZfGhtgbRtgRX455h7cPpUWoZ2iCS/D7wN79tAO f9oAsyL4PvY9ezZ1hkhCAq0KCZ03wDTtpbLSrFhZ+afZANP9fPFSi2NGnMMtsuBU97fIMXsf JXtrOaDsrd0+/jGBLq+eUcQkPuio+ydh/wFd1MOgIU0AAA== --------------7B400CE62BD9F2871110B980-- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 9 12:29:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA13409 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:29:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA13401 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:29:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA13085; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:29:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA13074 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:28:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from ghengis.avicom.net ([208.128.130.210]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA13048 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:28:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ghengis.avicom.net (ghengis.avicom.net [208.128.130.210]) by ghengis.avicom.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA05026 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:29:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from abenner@avicom.net) Message-ID: <34B65E93.167EB0E7@avicom.net> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 10:29:55 -0700 From: Aaron Benner Organization: I refuse to be organized! X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] nbp_rgstr times out. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've got netatalk 1.4b2 running on a FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE kernel and when nbprgstr tries to register services (afpd) with atalkd it times out. The error reported is below. Script started on Fri Jan 9 10:24:51 1998 # . /usr/local/atalk/etc/rc.atalk starting appletalk daemons: atalkdnbp_rgstr: Operation timed out Can't register ghengis:Workstation@* nbp_rgstr: Operation timed out Can't register ghengis:netatalk@* nbprgstr papd afpd. # Script done on Fri Jan 9 10:26:05 1998 The network is a simple appletalk network with 1 PowerMac 1 Netatalk workstaion (other then the one I'm trying to get running) and 1 printer Shared off the Netatalk box that's running. There are no routers. Any suggestions? Thanks, Aaron From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 9 13:16:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA16279 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:16:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA16274 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:16:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA28108; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:16:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA28085 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:16:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mixer.visi.com (mixer.visi.com [209.98.98.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA28071 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:16:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from thumper.visi.com (jarrod@thumper.visi.com [209.98.98.3]) by mixer.visi.com (8.8.6/8.7.5) with SMTP id MAA19663 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:16:06 -0600 (CST) Posted-Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:16:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:16:05 -0600 (CST) From: "J. Stenberg" X-Sender: jarrod@thumper.visi.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] looproute two routes In-Reply-To: <34B65E93.167EB0E7@avicom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Regarding the panic problems on my Solaris2.5.1. Okay, I looked through the archives and found many questions that looked exactly the same but I only found one solution. SOmebody suggested that moving the afpd.conf file would do the trick. It can't be that simple. I suppose it could but a panic is pretty extreme. So the Solaris Kernel is flakey to the point where misconfigurations make it extra volatile? Argh! Thanks for any help sent my way, -jarrod -- -- Jarrod P. Stenberg jarrod@denizen.net 612.646.6427 www.visi.com/~jarrod 612.901.6650 www.denizen.net "What the hell are you doing in my canoe!?" - Dubliner bar From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 9 14:03:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA18538 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:03:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA18534 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:03:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA11373; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:03:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA10876 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:01:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA10344 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 14:00:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA00372; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:59:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from UNKNOWN(), claiming to be "current1.whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd000367; Fri Jan 9 10:59:28 1998 Message-ID: <34B672D7.7DE14518@whistle.com> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 10:56:23 -0800 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aaron Benner CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] nbp_rgstr times out. References: <34B65E93.167EB0E7@avicom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Aaron Benner wrote: > > I've got netatalk 1.4b2 running on a FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE kernel > and when nbprgstr tries to register services (afpd) with atalkd > it times out. > > The error reported is below. > > Script started on Fri Jan 9 10:24:51 1998 > # . /usr/local/atalk/etc/rc.atalk > starting appletalk daemons: atalkdnbp_rgstr: Operation timed out > Can't register ghengis:Workstation@* > nbp_rgstr: Operation timed out > Can't register ghengis:netatalk@* > nbprgstr papd afpd. > # > Script done on Fri Jan 9 10:26:05 1998 > > The network is a simple appletalk network with 1 PowerMac 1 Netatalk > workstaion (other then the one I'm trying to get running) and 1 printer > Shared off the Netatalk box that's running. There are no routers. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Aaron 2.2.5 requires a patch. see the freebsd ftp site for the 'errata' (or erratum) file in the 2.2.5 release.. you should check this file every now and then anyhow. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 9 18:11:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA26644 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 18:11:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA26635 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 18:11:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA09057; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 18:12:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA09052 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 18:12:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.camelot.de (mail.camelot.de [195.30.224.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA09028 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 18:12:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (1118 bytes) by mail.camelot.de via rmail with P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 00:11:06 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.98 1997-Oct-16 #2 built 1997-Dec-4) Received: (from news@localhost) by hannibal.camelot.de (8.8.5/8.7.3) id UAA24641; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 20:24:01 +0100 (MET) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Path: not-for-mail From: Oliver Scheel Newsgroups: lists.netatalk.admins Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] FreeBSD and Netatalk1.4b2 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 20:24:01 +0100 Organization: Hannibal Online Lines: 13 Message-ID: <34B67951.CD3FCC87@camelot.de> References: <199801090357.VAA13391@nospam.hiwaay.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: hannibal.camelot.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE i386) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu David Kelly wrote: > Isn't the above the message generated when the following is missing > from your kernel config file? ... or perhaps from the missing netatalk-patch for FreeBSD 2.2.5 (see errata on www.freebsd.org). Oliver -- http://www.camelot.de/~os/ best things in life are free From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 9 18:39:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA27693 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 18:39:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA27688 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 18:39:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA17344; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 18:39:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA17342 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 18:39:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA17338 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 18:39:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA129792; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 15:40:47 -0800 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 15:40:47 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: Leo Wierzbowski cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk & kerberos 5 auth? In-Reply-To: <01bd1c63$e91bdfa0$aa08e380@pbc.circa.ufl.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Leo Wierzbowski wrote: > Is there a way to make netatalk (freebsd, but could switch to linux if > needed) do a krb5 authentication when it gets the username and > password from a stock appleshare client? You realize that if you're not careful, you will end up having the kerberos passwords fly by in clear text, don't you? That very much destroys the whole idea of kerberos. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 9 19:19:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA28928 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 19:19:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA28924 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 19:19:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA11450; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 19:19:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA11446 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 19:19:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.165]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA11440 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 19:19:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (slush.dial.umd.edu [128.8.18.5]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA24835 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 19:19:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199801100019.TAA24835@po3.wam.umd.edu> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problem compiling asun a18 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 98 19:19:41 -0500 x-sender: slush@pop.wam.umd.edu x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Jason Schlauch To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm having problems compiling asun a18. My system is an out-of-the-box Redhat 5.0 machine (no kernel or other source tree patches). If anybody knows what is going on, or how to fix it, please let me know. Here is the relevant part from make: make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18/etc/afpd' gcc -O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized -I../../include -DAPPLCNAME -DCRLF -c unix.c -o unix.o In file included from /usr/include/sys/quota.h:2, from unix.c:63: /usr/include/linux/quota.h:113: parse error before `__u32' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:113: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/linux/quota.h:114: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:115: parse error before `dqb_curblocks' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:115: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:116: parse error before `dqb_ihardlimit' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:116: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:117: parse error before `dqb_isoftlimit' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:117: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:118: parse error before `dqb_curinodes' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:118: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:121: parse error before `}' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:138: parse error before `__u32' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:138: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/linux/quota.h:139: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:140: parse error before `reads' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:140: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:141: parse error before `writes' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:141: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:142: parse error before `cache_hits' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:142: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:143: parse error before `pages_allocated' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:143: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:144: parse error before `allocated_dquots' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:144: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:145: parse error before `free_dquots' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:145: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:146: parse error before `syncs' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:146: warning: data definition has no type or storage class unix.c: In function `uquota_getvolspace': unix.c:313: storage size of `dqblk' isn't known unix.c:313: warning: unused variable `dqblk' unix.c: In function `overquota': unix.c:340: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type unix.c:340: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type unix.c:352: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type unix.c:352: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type make[4]: *** [unix.o] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18/etc/afpd' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18/etc/afpd' make[2]: *** [afpd] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18/etc' make[1]: *** [../../etc] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18/sys/linux' make: *** [all] Error 2 [Jason Schlauch] | [slush@glue.umd.edu] | [slush@wam.umd.edu] [http://www.wam.umd.edu/~slush] | [Random thought:] [Everyone has a personal El Guapo that they must face. To some, ] [shyness may be their El Guapo. To others, a lack of education may be ] [their El Guapo. For us, El Guapo is a big mean guy who's trying to kill] [us. But as sure as my name is Lucky Day, the people of Santa Poco can ] [rise above and conquer their El Guapo, who also happens to be the actual] [ElGuapo."] From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jan 10 12:59:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA08316 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 12:59:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA08312 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 12:58:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA05924; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 12:58:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA05918 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 12:58:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from iglou.com (iglou1.iglou.com [192.107.41.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id MAA05912 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 12:58:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mfreeman by iglou.com with smtp (8.7.3/8.6.12) id 0xr5BC-0000QB-00; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 12:58:42 -0500 Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 12:58:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael M. Freeman" X-Sender: mfreeman@iglou1 To: Jason Schlauch cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problem compiling asun a18 In-Reply-To: <199801100019.TAA24835@po3.wam.umd.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Jason Schlauch wrote: > > I'm having problems compiling asun a18. My system is an out-of-the-box > Redhat 5.0 machine (no kernel or other source tree patches). If anybody > knows what is going on, or how to fix it, please let me know. Here is > the relevant part from make: > Jason, I had the same problem, it looks like you will need to the -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER defined in the sys/linux/Makefile. See the top of the Makefile for further info. Adding the "wrapper" def allows me to compile. Now if I can figure out the "no response from server" problem :-( From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jan 11 14:03:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA15123 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:03:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA15119 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:03:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA18877; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:04:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA18875 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:04:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from toby.han.de (quirk.hiss.org [192.109.225.43]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA18865 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:04:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from baghira.han.de (baghira.han.de [192.109.225.2]) by toby.han.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:03:33 +0100 (MEZ) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baghira.han.de (8.8.7-s-4/07-01-98/15:29:56/fifi) with UUCP id ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:58:22 +0100 Received: (from micha@localhost) by dolbyco.han.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11885; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 16:30:51 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9712311110.ZM4572@kent.ansto.gov.au> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 05:24:55 +0100 (MET) Organization: bizZarre Guitar From: Michael Zuelsdorff To: (Frank Crawford) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Talking to HP Deckjet printer Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, inspired by this discussion, I tried to print with pap to a Deskwriter, connected to a MAC via Localtalk which has the "Apple LocalTalk Bridge" installed. (A commercial product from Apple, about 90 DM in Germany). The Deskwriter appears with "Deskwriter:Deswriter x.y:z" on the net and I can send requests with papstatus and print with pap. No problem - when you know the trick :-) At least with my model (an older one, no 850, no colour) I have to use "pap -E ....". This switch isn't documented in the man page, I found it in the source of pap.c. Without -E, I can print only one time, but the connection never closes, while papstatus tells me "status:busy". With -E it works like a charme, even over a routed network with a command like: "pap -E -p Deskwriter:Deskwriter@my_zone_name file_with_HP-GL code. I got the HP-GL code from Ghostscript 5.03 using the "djet500" driver, but there are other ones, too (have a look with "gs -h"). So far, I tried no multicoloured monster jobs, but some man pages and graphics which look really nice. That's it! Well, it's late meanwhile and maybe someone else can complete this and post a nifty printcap entry with a "whatever it was, it will be converted to HP-GL" filter. Next thing I will try is: Win95 with Deskjet driver --> samba spool queue | pap --> Mac with Deskwriter. I think this should work too and doesn't even need a converter !! All above was tested on Linux 2.0.33, netatalk with asun's latest patches, one MAC with 7.5.1 and another one with 7.6.1. The LocalTalk Bridge is 2.0.1 (don't know whether it works with MAC OS 8). Best regards, und tschuess. micha _~_ (?) (o o)° -- V -^ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . N . (!) Michael Zuelsdorff \ i / I don't like LINUX - ° ^ ^ Gruene Riede 5 °. \u/ .° I love it (o o) 31311 Dollbergen °>X<° / v \ +49 517-792-2113 --- " L " --------------------------------//8°8\\------ micha@dolbyco.han.de -- From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jan 11 18:22:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA07765 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 18:22:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA07759 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 18:22:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA29019; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 18:23:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA29017 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 18:23:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailb.telia.com (mailb.telia.com [194.22.194.6]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA29013 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 18:23:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from d1o21.telia.com (root@d1o21.telia.com [195.198.153.241]) by mailb.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22834 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 00:22:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from SAFIR (t7o21p41.telia.com [195.198.154.161]) by d1o21.telia.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA06693 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 00:22:13 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199801112322.AAA06693@d1o21.telia.com> From: "Joakim Ahlen" Organization: Chalmers University Of Technology To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 00:24:12 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [netatalk-admins] mkhfs with netatalk? Reply-to: d97ahjo@ios.chalmers.se Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Has anyone tried to patch mkhybrid or mkhfs (By James Pearson, http://www.ps.ucl.ac.uk/~jcpearso/software.html) so it can make images from netatalk-filesystems? It's originally made for use only with the aufs-filesystem used in CAP, but no version is made for use with netatalk :( Has anyone tried to make a patch for it, and if not, is anyone interested in doing it? It would be great to be able to burn a CD that can hold hfs+iso9660+joliet information from our netatalk filesystem... //Jocke Joakim Ahlen MediaPrint, Uddevalla AB Fax: +46 522 16417 Email: Joakim.Ahlen@mediaprint.se From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jan 12 11:44:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA29707 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:44:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA29701 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:44:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA18290; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:44:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA18170 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:43:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from einstein.leyada.jlm.k12.il (einstein.leyada.jlm.k12.il [192.115.119.4]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA18149 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:43:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from leyada.jlm.k12.il (p27.j1.actcom.co.il [192.115.22.64]) by einstein.leyada.jlm.k12.il (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA06455; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:40:44 +0200 Message-ID: <34BA4838.E23AE2F5@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:43:36 +0200 From: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" Organization: Hebrew University High School X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk Admins Mailing List Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I tried to install netatalk-1.4b2 on a solaris 2.6 machine, and got the following error while compiling (all defaults): Making all for solaris... gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c aarp.c gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c ddp.c gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c ddptp_rdq.c gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c ddptp_utls.c ddptp_utls.c:49: conflicting types for `msgdsize' /usr/include/sys/stream.h:705: previous declaration of `msgdsize' ddptp_utls.c:52: conflicting types for `allocb' /usr/include/sys/stream.h:687: previous declaration of `allocb' *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `ddptp_utls.o' Current working directory /usr/local/src/netatalk-1.4b2/sys/solaris *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all' Has anyone succeeded building netatalk on Solaris 2.6? Does anyone know what the problem is? Regards, Yannai. -- Yannai A. Gonczarowski System Administrator yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il The Hebrew University High School http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/~yannaigo/ Si vis pacem, para bellum From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jan 12 11:53:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA00611 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:53:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA00589 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:53:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA21887; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:53:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA21797 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:53:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from elmo.som.siu.edu (elmo.som.siu.edu [131.230.167.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA21237 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:51:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (mlists@localhost) by elmo.som.siu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA01069 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:51:50 -0600 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:51:48 -0600 (CST) From: "Richard H. Fifarek" To: Netatalk-Admins Subject: [netatalk-admins] papd and RedHat 5.0 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I recently upgraded to RedHat 5.0, and upgraded to netatalk 1.4b2 + asun2.0a18. This fixed all but one problem (seemingly). papd refuses to print. papd registers the printer fine, and the Macs are able to send print jobs to it without any complaints, but I receive no print out. My syslog looks like this: Jan 12 10:32:06 elmo papd[1015]: lp_print queued Jan 12 10:32:06 elmo papd[947]: child 1015 done Jan 12 10:32:06 elmo kernel: lp1 at 0x0378, (polling) which would appear to be correct. lpd appears to be working fine as well. I can print locally and remotely. Any suggestions? Thanks, Rich _____________________________________________________ Richard H. Fifarek SIU School of Medicine rfifarek@som.siu.edu Information Systems Center _____________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 13 07:36:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA22446 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:36:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA22442 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:36:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA11509; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:36:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA11507 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:36:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from einstein.leyada.jlm.k12.il (einstein.leyada.jlm.k12.il [192.115.119.4]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA11503 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:36:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from leyada.jlm.k12.il (p5.j1.actcom.co.il [192.115.22.5]) by einstein.leyada.jlm.k12.il (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA12111; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 14:34:07 +0200 Message-ID: <34BB5FCA.D7757C1D@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 14:36:26 +0200 From: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" Organization: Hebrew University High School X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk Admins Mailing List Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I downloaded the gcc for solaris 2.6 as a package containing binaries and I think that it has all the patches, since I compiled samba and pine successfully with it. Anyway, I tried to compile netatalk with cc (ANSI), and I got similar messages in the same file. Any ideas? Regards, Yannai. -- Yannai A. Gonczarowski System Administrator yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il The Hebrew University High School http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/~yannaigo/ Si vis pacem, para bellum From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 13 20:04:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA18771 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:04:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA18766 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:04:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA06537; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:04:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA06513 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:04:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from toby.han.de (quirk.hiss.org [192.109.225.43]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA06436 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:04:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from baghira.han.de (baghira.han.de [192.109.225.2]) by toby.han.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 02:04:23 +0100 (MEZ) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baghira.han.de (8.8.7-s-4/07-01-98/15:29:56/fifi) with UUCP id ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:47:07 +0100 Received: (from micha@localhost) by dolbyco.han.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA02584; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:42:53 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:22:50 +0100 (MET) Organization: bizZarre Guitar From: Michael Zuelsdorff To: "Richard H. Fifarek" Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] papd and RedHat 5.0 Cc: Netatalk-Admins Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, On 12-Jan-98 Richard H. Fifarek wrote: > I recently upgraded to RedHat 5.0, and upgraded to netatalk 1.4b2 >+ asun2.0a18. This fixed all but one problem (seemingly). papd refuses >to print. papd registers the printer fine, and the Macs are able to send >print jobs to it without any complaints, but I receive no print out. My >..... >Any suggestions? > I don't know Redhat but I ran into similiar problem after upgrading to SuSE 5.1. The "old" lpr has been replaced by lprng which behaves different. Fortunately I remembered the following posting from July 97: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:22:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: edan@bioserver.bio.mtu.edu In-Reply-To: <199707012149.RAA31976@jik.shore.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII XFMstatus: 0000 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu From: Edan Idzerda To: "Jonathan I. Kamens" Subject: Re: papd and LPRng ... not working ... Cc: rothwell@cybergrafx.com, netatalk-admins@umich.edu On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Jonathan I. Kamens wrote: > LPRng doesn't queue the same was BSD LPR does. I modified netatalk to > use support LPRng by using "lpr" to queue jobs rather than trying to > insert them directly into the queue directory. I submitted my patches Err, I didn't look closely at your code to see if it would work better, but you can already do :pr=|lpr: To get papd to use lpr instead of queueing directly. This appears to be the The One Truth I Know About Netatalk Printing. - edan ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- After changing the entry in papd.conf this way, printing works again without problems.I hope this helps with Redhat, too. Good luck. Michael _~_ (?) (o o)° -- V -^ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . N . (!) Michael Zuelsdorff \ i / I don't like LINUX - ° ^ ^ Gruene Riede 5 °. \u/ .° I love it (o o) 31311 Dollbergen °>X<° / v \ +49 517-792-2113 --- " L " --------------------------------//8°8\\------ micha@dolbyco.han.de -- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 13 20:05:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA18800 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:05:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA18792 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:05:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id UAA13314; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:06:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id UAA13304 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from toby.han.de (quirk.hiss.org [192.109.225.43]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA13295 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:06:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from baghira.han.de (baghira.han.de [192.109.225.2]) by toby.han.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 02:05:15 +0100 (MEZ) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baghira.han.de (8.8.7-s-4/07-01-98/15:29:56/fifi) with UUCP id ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:47:02 +0100 Received: (from micha@localhost) by dolbyco.han.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA02546; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:14:14 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199801120941.KAA04330@gilgamesj.uio.no> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 00:54:14 +0100 (MET) Organization: bizZarre Guitar From: Michael Zuelsdorff To: Nicolai Langfeldt Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Talking to HP Deckjet printer Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, On 12-Jan-98 Nicolai Langfeldt wrote: >Michael Zuelsdorff tastet: >> I got the HP-GL code from Ghostscript 5.03 using the "djet500" driver, >> but there are other ones, too (have a look with "gs -h"). >> So far, I tried no multicoloured monster jobs, but some man pages >> and graphics which look really nice. > >That's a misunderstanding. It produces PCL. > >Nicolai hmm, really ?!? But - somehow - it _prints_! :-)) Anyway, it's always good to know there are experts listening to this group. Here is my question: What can I do, if there is more than one Deskwriter or Imagewriter connected to the Localtalk segment ? Do you know about utilities to rename these kind of printers, and will they remember when turned off/on ? Best regards michael From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 13 23:14:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id XAA22582 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:14:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA22578 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:14:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id XAA00539; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:15:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id XAA00536 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:15:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from infolive.ie (gateway.infolive.ie [193.120.120.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA00528 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:15:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from scope.ie ([10.0.0.20]) by gateway.infolive.ie with ESMTP id <20624>; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 03:52:29 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.71] by scope.ie with ESMTP (MailShare 1.0fc5); Wed, 14 Jan 1998 04:35:44 +0000 X-Sender: moran@10.0.0.20 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Tony Moran Subject: [netatalk-admins] Network question Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 04:35:44 +0000 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Could the fact that the 20 Macs on my network all have a *total* mix of network and nodes be causing problems getting 1.4b2 on Linux going - causing failures to register the Linux afpd server on the network ? Practically every machine on the network has a different (Appletalk) network address... - Just wanted to remove that possibility before I made a full posting, Thanks for any help, Tony. __________________________________________________ Tony Moran IT Manager Ph: (+353-1)-8303455 Scope Communications. Fax: (+353-1)-8300888 http://www.infolive.ie http://www.jobfinder.ie Ireland's online Jobs and IT resources Web Site - Check us out ! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------- How to complain about Spam: http://weber.ucsd.edu/~pagre/spam.html From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 14 15:41:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA10683 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:41:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA10674 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:41:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA08372; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:41:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA08303 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:40:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from go.com.jo (amman-server1.go.com.jo [196.27.1.71]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA08163 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:40:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (acsrv4_a8.go.com.jo [196.27.0.87]) by go.com.jo (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA22109 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 22:40:10 +0200 (IST) Message-ID: <34BD58F3.6364@nettaxi.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 22:31:47 -0200 From: Amjad Zamil Reply-To: zamil@nettaxi.com Organization: S.T.S X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Precompiled Version of Netatalk for Solaris 2.5 or above !! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi Is there a precompiled version of netatak for Solaris 2.5 or above ? If there's a one, where can I download it from ? I badly need it.Thanx alot. B. Regards Amjad Zamil zamil@nettaxi.com From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 14 19:55:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA20706 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:55:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA20701 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:55:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA00918; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:55:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA00915 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:55:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA00906 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:55:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA127496; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:56:49 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:56:49 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: Michael Zuelsdorff cc: Nicolai Langfeldt , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Talking to HP Deckjet printer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Michael Zuelsdorff wrote: > Hi, > > On 12-Jan-98 Nicolai Langfeldt wrote: > >Michael Zuelsdorff tastet: > >> I got the HP-GL code from Ghostscript 5.03 using the "djet500" driver, > >> but there are other ones, too (have a look with "gs -h"). > >> So far, I tried no multicoloured monster jobs, but some man pages > >> and graphics which look really nice. > > > >That's a misunderstanding. It produces PCL. > > > >Nicolai > > hmm, really ?!? But - somehow - it _prints_! :-)) Bedause the printer wants pcl. :-) (pcl is, AFAIK, an outgrowth of HP-GL) > Anyway, it's always good to know there are experts listening to this > group. Here is my question: What can I do, if there is more than one > Deskwriter or Imagewriter connected to the Localtalk segment ? Do you > know about utilities to rename these kind of printers, and will they > remember when turned off/on ? I'm not sure if they automatically remember their names, but if their name is in use, they generate an incrimental name (like Deskwriter becomes Deskwriter 2). The printers should have come with a little mac utility to change the printer names. It should also be in the drivers at the HP web site. If you don't have a MacOS box, I'm not sure what to tell you. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 15 11:07:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA14907 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:07:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA14903 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:07:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA27396; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:07:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA27388 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:07:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from infolive.ie (gateway.infolive.ie [193.120.120.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA27353 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:07:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from scope.ie ([10.0.0.20]) by gateway.infolive.ie with ESMTP id <20612>; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:46:52 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.71] by scope.ie with ESMTP (MailShare 1.0fc5); Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:29:01 +0000 X-Sender: moran@10.0.0.20 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Tony Moran Subject: [netatalk-admins] Any caveats for Netatalk before going live ? Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:29:01 +0000 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm about to let a new Linux/Netatalk1.4b2/Pentium100 loose on a 20-seat Mac Department for Sales, Advertising and Graphics use.. Before I do so, I want to iron out as many possible glitches as I can.. going thru the netatalk-admins digests, there seems to be quite a few little things thatd cause me grief nonetheless from Users/Bosses - such as Chooser/Alias/Icon problems.. I was hoping possibly you could draw my attention to any other bugs or freaky things that I should eradicate now or at least prepare for, that youve encountered in the past.. one thing that really does concern me is the corruption of graphics/MS/Filemaker files from Mac->Unix conversion.. I'd really appreciate any pointers on this.. Many thanks for your help, Tony __________________________________________________ Tony Moran IT Manager Ph: (+353-1)-8303455 Scope Communications. Fax: (+353-1)-8300888 http://www.infolive.ie http://www.jobfinder.ie Ireland's online Jobs and IT resources Web Site - Check us out ! __________________________________________________ How to complain about Spam: http://weber.ucsd.edu/~pagre/spam.html From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 15 20:05:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA05828 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:05:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA05817 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:05:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA13050; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:05:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA13030 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:05:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.sacbee.com (mail.sacbee.com [204.86.242.27]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA12965 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:05:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from exchange1.sacbee.com (exchange1.sacbee.com [128.103.5.210]) by mail.sacbee.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA04109 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:07:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from matteo.sacbee.com by exchange1.sacbee.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1458.49) id W0BF4MA8; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:03:10 -0800 X-Sender: mmatteo@exchange1.sacbee.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:02:52 -0800 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Marc Matteo Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris - what's the story? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all, What are the caveats of netatalk on Solaris? 2.6? What's this "experimental steams driver" I hear about? Will there ever be a b3 that will be more stable than b2? What have the Solaris admins out there learned about netatalk on Solaris? Thanks, Marc Marc Matteo Web Engineer, The Sacramento Bee (916) 321-1242 http://www.sacbee.com From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 16 08:49:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA10583 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:49:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA10579 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:49:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA10920; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:49:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA10904 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:49:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwsys.communitynews.com (internet.communitynews.com [207.121.140.5]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA10858 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:49:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by fwsys.communitynews.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id IAA14705; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:49:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.communitynews.com(204.137.8.34) by fwsys via smap (g3.0.3) id xma014674; Fri, 16 Jan 98 08:48:52 -0500 Received: from bilbo.pecknet.com ([205.223.40.18]) by solstice.communitynews.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA10339; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:40:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-beta-120997 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:47:05 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Peck To: Edan Idzerda Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and samba cooperation Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, Vivek , "Philip S. Wachtel" , Andrew McNabb Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This would also fix problems of pc users moving or renaming a file and the mac loosing the resource fork... My company would pay a nice shareware fee if Samba and netatalk worked with each other!! :-) What was this talk of the hsf module? Also does anyone know if netatalk would handle resouce forks from an hfs mounted filesystem? Or is that what someone was saying? We have some Mac Clip art cd's that we would love to share via netatalk... On 09-Jan-98 Edan Idzerda wrote: > On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Andrew McNabb wrote: > >> It seems to me that it wouldn't be very difficult to write a samba patch >> that is netatalk friendly. It could keep track of appledouble, special >> characters in filenames, etc. I'm not good enough at programming, but I >> would appreciate it if such a patch were available. > > I think this seems like a more efficient solution than runing some > nasty cron job, though I suppose it would cost you an extra stat() or > two for every unlink(). As a per-share option it would probably be > fine, though. I might look at doing this because I think it would be a > nice addition to their coexistence--though in a race I'm sure Jeremy > Allison could beat me. :) (Apologies if I spelled his named wrong.) > > - edan > > -- > Edan Idzerda > System Administrator -- Michigan Technological University, Houghton MI USA ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Bill Peck Date: 16-Jan-98 Time: 08:44:12 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 16 09:02:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA11107 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:02:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA11092 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:02:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA15867; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:02:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA15863 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:02:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.imaginet.co.uk (tanya.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.16]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id JAA15793 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:02:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:00:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Vivek To: Bill Peck cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and samba cooperation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Bill Peck wrote: > What was this talk of the hsf module? Also does anyone know if netatalk would > handle resouce forks from an hfs mounted filesystem? Or is that what someone > was saying? We have some Mac Clip art cd's that we would love to share via > netatalk... You can compile the hfs module to be 'netatalk-friendly': >From the hfs module docs [bits cut out]: If included in the options, then the behavior of the filesystem is changed to make it fully read-write compatible with Netatalk's afpd. In this mode you should not use normal user-level tools to modify the filesystem, though reading from it is acceptable. This is because the return codes from some system calls are changed to fool afpd. These changes will confuse many user-level tools. In particular ``rm -r'' will loop forever. . . You will probably want to use the uid=, gid= and umask= mount options. Note that because all the files on an HFS filesystem belong to a single user and group and have a single umask, the full AppleShare permission scheme will not work through Netatalk. . . This mode is known to be compatible with afpd from Netatalk versions 1.4b1 and 1.4b2, and known to be incompatible with the afpd from version 1.3.3. As of this writing Netatalk version 1.4 has not yet been released. However, it is expected that this mode will be compatible with afpd from Netatalk version 1.4 when it is released. So it looks like there are still lots of 'issues' to be cleared up. My copy [version 0.95, 28 Apr 1997] may well be out of date. And no, I've never tried it. Any guinea pigs out there? :) -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 16 09:06:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA11548 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:06:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA11540 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:06:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id JAA08792; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:07:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id JAA08779 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:07:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from luxbbs.itserve.com ([209.4.104.131] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA08764 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:07:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from davidhspc.atlanta.itserve.com (festus.itserve.com [209.4.104.189]) by luxbbs.itserve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09142; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:11:25 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-alpha-091997 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:11:06 -0500 (EST) Organization: Imaging Technologies From: David Hamm To: Tony Moran Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] Any caveats for Netatalk before going live Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have had a Linux-NetAtalk server running for over a year in our graphics production department. This department is a server intense bunch of people and I consider it my least problematic server. I've not seen the chooser or Icon problems you talked about but I have seen the alias problem. Being a production house thought we seldom use aliases because we mostly move large amounts of data on and off the server for processing. The only software problem we have is with an archival/tape backup product called Retrospect. Some times it gets confused and does not back up the server properly. I'm not convinced that this a server based problem though. On 15-Jan-98 Tony Moran wrote: > > Hi, I'm about to let a new Linux/Netatalk1.4b2/Pentium100 loose on a > 20-seat Mac Department > for Sales, Advertising and Graphics use.. > > Before I do so, I want to iron out as many possible glitches as I can.. > going thru the netatalk-admins > digests, there seems to be quite a few little things thatd cause me grief > nonetheless from Users/Bosses - such as Chooser/Alias/Icon problems.. > > I was hoping possibly you could draw my attention to any other bugs or > freaky things that I should eradicate now or at least prepare for, that > youve encountered in the past.. one thing that really does concern me is > the corruption of graphics/MS/Filemaker files from Mac->Unix conversion.. > I'd really appreciate any pointers on this.. > > Many thanks for your help, > > Tony > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Tony Moran IT Manager > Ph: (+353-1)-8303455 Scope Communications. > Fax: (+353-1)-8300888 http://www.infolive.ie > > http://www.jobfinder.ie > Ireland's online Jobs and IT resources Web Site - Check us out ! > __________________________________________________ > How to complain about Spam: http://weber.ucsd.edu/~pagre/spam.html ------ David Hamm - dhamm@itserve.com -------- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 16 16:05:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA27382 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:05:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA27371 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:05:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA13656; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:05:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA13644 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:05:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from gummy.cs.indiana.edu (gummy.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.252.102]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA13630 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:04:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (brbothwe@localhost) by gummy.cs.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/IUCS_2.14) with SMTP id QAA24085 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:04:58 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: gummy.cs.indiana.edu: brbothwe owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:04:58 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Eric Bothwell To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] One Mac won't print! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have netatalk 1.4b2 running under RedHat Linux 5.0 and everything was working just fine with all of the Macs in our office. We got a new G3 PowerMac and for some strange reason I cannot get it to print to the HP DeskJet 6MP we have. All the other Macs can, but not the G3. I have tried every possible confiuration on both the Mac and Linux side and nothing will print. The really weird thing is that I had *thought* that the G3 wasn't even connecting to the Linux box but when I click on the "Update Printer Info" in the Chooser/Laserwriter8/printername/Info I am getting the following in the logfiles: Jan 16 15:42:39 wtlinux papd[2680]: child 3286 for "Marty's_Printer" from 46672.73 Jan 16 15:42:39 wtlinux papd[3286]: read_ppd .ppd: No such file or directory wtlinux papd[2680]: child 3286 done Jan 16 15:43:16 wtlinux afpd[3240]: done (sidenote: I have always got the "read_ppd .ppd: No such file or directory". Not sure why as I have the following in my /etc/papd.conf: Marty's_Printer:\ :pd=/etc/hp_laserjet.ppd:pr=marty:op=daemon: ) BUT when I send any print job from the G3 I get *nothing* in any log file to indicate that any connection was made. This is driving me batty! Is this most likely a Mac problem? If it is, how in the heck might I fix it? I need ugly config files, and Macs just don't have em!! ;) Thanks, -Brian From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 16 16:33:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA29127 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:33:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ripstick.engin.umich.edu (ripstick.engin.umich.edu [141.212.160.87]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA29116 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:33:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by ripstick.engin.umich.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with X.500 id QAA24298; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:33:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by ripstick.engin.umich.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with X.500 id QAA24296 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:33:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (wagnerer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ripstick.engin.umich.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA24291; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:33:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:33:35 -0500 (EST) From: Eric C Wagner X-Sender: wagnerer@ripstick.engin.umich.edu To: Brian Eric Bothwell cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] One Mac won't print! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu System 8.1 will be releasing the new LaserWriter print drivers. They have a bunch of new features (ie potential bugs) such as TCP/IP printing. The software has been around for awhile so its possible that they included it on the G3's. So try downgrading on the printer driver and see if that helps. Later, Eric On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Brian Eric Bothwell wrote: > I have netatalk 1.4b2 running under RedHat Linux 5.0 and everything was > working just fine with all of the Macs in our office. We got a new G3 > PowerMac and for some strange reason I cannot get it to print to the HP > DeskJet 6MP we have. All the other Macs can, but not the G3. I have > tried every possible confiuration on both the Mac and Linux side and > nothing will print. The really weird thing is that I had *thought* that > the G3 wasn't even connecting to the Linux box but when I click on the > "Update Printer Info" in the Chooser/Laserwriter8/printername/Info I am > getting the following in the logfiles: > > > Jan 16 15:42:39 wtlinux papd[2680]: child 3286 for "Marty's_Printer" from > 46672.73 > Jan 16 15:42:39 wtlinux papd[3286]: read_ppd .ppd: No such file or directory > wtlinux papd[2680]: child 3286 done Jan 16 15:43:16 wtlinux afpd[3240]: done > > (sidenote: I have always got the "read_ppd .ppd: No such file or > directory". Not sure why as I have the following in my /etc/papd.conf: > > Marty's_Printer:\ > :pd=/etc/hp_laserjet.ppd:pr=marty:op=daemon: > ) > > > BUT when I send any print job from the G3 I get *nothing* in any log file > to indicate that any connection was made. > > > This is driving me batty! > > > Is this most likely a Mac problem? If it is, how in the heck might I fix > it? I need ugly config files, and Macs just don't have em!! ;) > > > > Thanks, > > -Brian> From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 16 17:21:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA02140 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:21:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA02132 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:21:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA18519; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:22:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA18512 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:22:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from newsgate.dircon.co.uk (newsgate.dircon.co.uk [194.112.32.150]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA18442 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:22:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from nan.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by newsgate.dircon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.7) with UUCP id WAA09208 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 22:21:12 GMT Received: by mailhost.nan.co.uk (sendmail 8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA03215; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:50:32 GMT X-Sender: sw@mailhost.nan.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 3.1 Organization: Network Analysis Ltd Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 21:49:38 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Sak Wathanasin Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] Any caveats for Netatalk before going live Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In reply to David Hamm's message of the 16/01/98 at 09:11 -0500, > amounts of data on and off the server for processing. The only software > problem we have is with an archival/tape backup product called Retrospect. > Some times it gets confused and does not back up the server properly. I'm not > convinced that this a server based problem though. I've been backing up my netatalk server (Linux on 486) volumes nightly for well over a year using Retrospect without any problems whatsoever. In that time we've moved from netatalk 1.3.x to 1.4b2+asun patches. In the last couple of weeks, I've also set up a netatalk server on Solaris for one of my clients and am planning to also back this up with Retrospect. I will report back if I encounter any problems. Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK Internet: sw@nan.co.uk Phone: (+44) 1203 419996 Fax: (+44) 1203 690690 From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jan 17 07:31:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA13001 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:31:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA12997 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:31:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA20801; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:31:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA20799 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:31:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from chico.net-mail.ch ([195.216.69.66]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA20795 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 07:31:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from sokrates. (dial-pri-ra1.active.ch [195.246.76.11]) by chico.net-mail.ch (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA03258 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:31:53 GMT Received: from [192.168.0.2] by sokrates. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA00722; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:32:30 +0100 X-Sender: lkarrer@192.168.0.9 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:30:17 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Lukas Karrer Subject: [netatalk-admins] Frustrated Q: Printing on solaris Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello all, I just spent a frustrated day trying to set up printing an a Solaris 2.6 Box. I did not succed. Solaris is printing fine on it's attached QMS Laser on /dev/bpp0 (parallel port). The Printer is named lp, -> the default printer. I set up papd.conf like: QMS-PS415:\ :pd=/opt/atalk/ppd/QMS-PS410: Now: Do I have to have an /etc/printcap, for netatalk to recognize which device it has to print on?? I would appreciate any help, since I am (not) yet an experienced Sysadmin. TIA Lukas Karrer +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Lukas Karrer Email: lkarrer@trash.net WWW: http://www.trash.net/ +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Check out the stinkiest site on the web! Get a sniff from www.trash.net From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jan 17 16:39:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA20192 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:39:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA20188 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:39:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA06895; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:39:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA06892 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:39:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from celeste.INS.CWRU.Edu (celeste.INS.CWRU.Edu [129.22.8.214]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA06883 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from k2.cwru.edu (k2.SCL.CWRU.Edu [129.22.32.50]) by celeste.INS.CWRU.Edu with SMTP (8.8.6+cwru/CWRU-3.3) id QAA09503; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:39:05 -0500 (EST) (from amitai.schlair@usa.net for ) Received: from [10.0.2.16] by k2.cwru.edu (8.6.12/SMI-SVR4) id QAA20479; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:40:46 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk-Admins) Subject: [netatalk-admins] AppleTalk routing From: amitai.schlair@usa.net (Amitai Schlair) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:39:07 -0500 Message-ID: <1d30dct.1fw6f0zwaak00M@[10.0.2.16]> Organization: StorQuad Industries X-Face: /l:AjQ)DEh^28,~jjF64._q55lI*:uy &I_jq\<)TT}A"fv)V9DcquyoM{HW{JB`sc|;Y+.nLO_i@+XhE|p?u+V;$|@%rVx2z@{> ZG-G0yIG>}]jQnJrMvazeoTt^;0Qz8K|KaPnO&-![:B:aQx1S\T.Qi~ez?`zNcEF^JRC UzGz2sjo7%*{isaejS@Vyb*Fj X-Mailer: MacSOUP 2.3 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm running Netatalk 1.4b2 (with Arthur Sun's patches) on NetBSD 1.3, and I'm trying to get AppleTalk routing, as described in atalkd(8), working. I've got AppleShare IP on ae2 (accessible to the LAN), and I'd like my Mac (connected to ae1) to be able to access AppleShare resources on the outside network, as well as those on the NetBSD box. Is this possible? If so, how do I configure ae1 in atalkd.conf? (Letting atalkd auto-configure the interfaces on startup didn't work well at all.) Thanks for any help. -- A critic is a man who knows the way but can't drive the car. -- Kenneth Tynan From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jan 17 21:06:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA25076 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:06:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA25071 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:06:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA00927; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:07:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA00925 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:07:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from cornelius.INS.CWRU.Edu (cornelius.INS.CWRU.Edu [129.22.8.216]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA00921 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:07:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from k2.cwru.edu (k2.SCL.CWRU.Edu [129.22.32.50]) by cornelius.INS.CWRU.Edu with SMTP (8.8.6+cwru/CWRU-3.3) id VAA19985; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:06:07 -0500 (EST) (from amitai.schlair@usa.net for ) Received: from [10.0.2.16] by k2.cwru.edu (8.6.12/SMI-SVR4) id VAA22007; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:07:48 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk-Admins) In-Reply-To: <1d30dct.1fw6f0zwaak00M@[10.0.2.16]> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: AppleTalk routing From: amitai.schlair@usa.net (Amitai Schlair) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:06:09 -0500 Message-ID: <1d30kkc.5ycl62144slcM@[10.0.2.16]> Organization: StorQuad Industries X-Face: /l:AjQ)DEh^28,~jjF64._q55lI*:uy &I_jq\<)TT}A"fv)V9DcquyoM{HW{JB`sc|;Y+.nLO_i@+XhE|p?u+V;$|@%rVx2z@{> ZG-G0yIG>}]jQnJrMvazeoTt^;0Qz8K|KaPnO&-![:B:aQx1S\T.Qi~ez?`zNcEF^JRC UzGz2sjo7%*{isaejS@Vyb*Fj X-Mailer: MacSOUP 2.3 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I wrote: > I'm running Netatalk 1.4b2 (with Arthur Sun's patches) on NetBSD 1.3, > and I'm trying to get AppleTalk routing, as described in atalkd(8), > working. I've got AppleShare IP on ae2 (accessible to the LAN), and I'd > like my Mac (connected to ae1) to be able to access AppleShare resources > on the outside network, as well as those on the NetBSD box. Is this > possible? If so, how do I configure ae1 in atalkd.conf? (Letting atalkd > auto-configure the interfaces on startup didn't work well at all.) Despite my total lack of experience with and understanding of AppleTalk internals, I managed to hack my way partly there. From my Mac (connected to ae1), I can now see all the zones on the LAN (connected to ae2). However, the only AppleShare volume I can see in the Chooser (or any AppleTalk service for that matter) is the one on my NetBSD box. I'd like to be able to see all the AppleShare volumes out there on the LAN, if possible. My atalkd.conf: ae2 -phase 2 -net 25-50 -addr 25.33 -zone "CWRUnet" -zone "Chemistry" -zone "Housing" -zone "Statistics" -zone "neurosciences" -zone "WSOM" -zone "Smith Lab" -zone "Physics" -zone "Neutral" -zone "Net Services" -zone "Music" -zone "MSASS" -zone "Medicine" -zone "Math" -zone "Libraries" -zone "Health Sci" -zone "ESS" -zone "Engr" -zone "EEAP" -zone "CIT" -zone "CP&P" -zone "CNS Internal" -zone "CIM" -zone "CES" -zone "BRB" -zone "BIOMED" -zone "Arts & Sci" -zone "Archives" -zone "AIS" -zone "Administration" -zone "South Residences" -zone "North Residences" -zone "Medlab" -zone "Meds" -zone "Asian Studies" -zone "INS Internal" ae1 -phase 2 -net 51-75 -addr 51.33 The AppleTalk Phase II network range for the LAN, as described in the network docs, is 25-50. "CWRUnet" is the default zone; I have my AFP service running in "North Residences". (My connection to the LAN on ae2 works great.) The bit of hackery I did to get on the AppleTalk network, sort of, was to set the netrange on ae1 in atalkd.conf to 51-75 (wrong?), and manually set the network and node in the Mac's AppleTalk control panel to some reasonable numbers. Despite my inexperience, I'm pretty sure my ae1 netrange setting is why I can't see the machines on the LAN... but I can't get anything at all when I set it properly (25-50). I'm also getting a lot of messages on the console: Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CIT exists Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CIT exists Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CWRUnet exists Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CWRUnet exists Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast EEAPo exists Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast EEAPo exists Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CWRUnet exists Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CWRUnet exists Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast EEAPo exists Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast EEAPo exists Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CWRUnet exists Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CWRUnet exists Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast EEAPo exists Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast EEAPo exists and so on. I hope I'm not making an AppleStorm on the LAN! How can I fix all this to work properly? -- God is dead, but fifty thousand social workers have risen to take his place. -- J.D. McCoughey From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jan 18 00:10:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id AAA28977 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:10:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA28971 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:10:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id AAA21339; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:11:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id AAA21337 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:11:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA21328 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 00:11:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA08507; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:07:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from UNKNOWN(), claiming to be "current1.whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd008503; Sat Jan 17 21:07:39 1998 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:04:24 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: Amitai Schlair cc: Netatalk-Admins Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: AppleTalk routing In-Reply-To: <1d30kkc.5ycl62144slcM@[10.0.2.16]> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm not convinced that atalk on FreeBSD routes. NetBSD was based off the freeBSD port I did. so I'm not sure it works.. I also made some changes in FreeBSD that were not copied (to my knowledge) to NetBSD. the best bet is to read teh source :) On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Amitai Schlair wrote: > I wrote: > > > I'm running Netatalk 1.4b2 (with Arthur Sun's patches) on NetBSD 1.3, > > and I'm trying to get AppleTalk routing, as described in atalkd(8), > > working. I've got AppleShare IP on ae2 (accessible to the LAN), and I'd > > like my Mac (connected to ae1) to be able to access AppleShare resources > > on the outside network, as well as those on the NetBSD box. Is this > > possible? If so, how do I configure ae1 in atalkd.conf? (Letting atalkd > > auto-configure the interfaces on startup didn't work well at all.) > > Despite my total lack of experience with and understanding of AppleTalk > internals, I managed to hack my way partly there. From my Mac (connected > to ae1), I can now see all the zones on the LAN (connected to ae2). > However, the only AppleShare volume I can see in the Chooser (or any > AppleTalk service for that matter) is the one on my NetBSD box. I'd like > to be able to see all the AppleShare volumes out there on the LAN, if > possible. > > My atalkd.conf: > > ae2 -phase 2 -net 25-50 -addr 25.33 -zone "CWRUnet" -zone "Chemistry" > -zone "Housing" -zone "Statistics" -zone "neurosciences" -zone "WSOM" > -zone "Smith Lab" -zone "Physics" -zone "Neutral" -zone "Net Services" > -zone "Music" -zone "MSASS" -zone "Medicine" -zone "Math" -zone > "Libraries" -zone "Health Sci" -zone "ESS" -zone "Engr" -zone "EEAP" > -zone "CIT" -zone "CP&P" -zone "CNS Internal" -zone "CIM" -zone "CES" > -zone "BRB" -zone "BIOMED" -zone "Arts & Sci" -zone "Archives" -zone > "AIS" -zone "Administration" -zone "South Residences" -zone "North > Residences" -zone "Medlab" -zone "Meds" -zone "Asian Studies" -zone "INS > Internal" > ae1 -phase 2 -net 51-75 -addr 51.33 > > The AppleTalk Phase II network range for the LAN, as described in the > network docs, is 25-50. "CWRUnet" is the default zone; I have my AFP > service running in "North Residences". (My connection to the LAN on ae2 > works great.) The bit of hackery I did to get on the AppleTalk network, > sort of, was to set the netrange on ae1 in atalkd.conf to 51-75 > (wrong?), and manually set the network and node in the Mac's AppleTalk > control panel to some reasonable numbers. > > Despite my inexperience, I'm pretty sure my ae1 netrange setting is why > I can't see the machines on the LAN... but I can't get anything at all > when I set it properly (25-50). > > I'm also getting a lot of messages on the console: > > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CIT exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CIT exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CWRUnet exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CWRUnet exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast EEAPo exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast EEAPo exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CWRUnet exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CWRUnet exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast EEAPo exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast EEAPo exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CWRUnet exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CWRUnet exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast EEAPo exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast EEAPo exists > > and so on. I hope I'm not making an AppleStorm on the LAN! How can I fix > all this to work properly? > > -- > God is dead, but fifty thousand social workers have risen to take his > place. > -- J.D. McCoughey > From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jan 18 11:46:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA23622 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:46:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA23617 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:46:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA08713; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:47:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA08711 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:47:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from infinity.gen.emory.edu (infinity.gen.emory.edu [170.140.53.130]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id LAA08706 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:47:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from infinity (infinity [170.140.53.130]) by infinity.gen.emory.edu (SMI-8.6/8.6.9-ITDgen-950524) with SMTP id LAA14431 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:45:46 -0500 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:45:46 -0500 (EST) From: "Andreas M. Kogelnik" X-Sender: kogelnik@infinity To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.6 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, I have a Solaris 2.6 SPARCServer 1000 and a Solaris 2.6 Ultra box. I have gotten netatalk to compile and install just fine on the 1000, but I get the following error when compiling on the Ultra gcc -D_SHADOWPW -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c ddptp_utls.c ddptp_utls.c:49: conflicting types for `msgdsize' /usr/include/sys/stream.h:705: previous declaration of `msgdsize' ddptp_utls.c:52: conflicting types for `allocb' /usr/include/sys/stream.h:687: previous declaration of `allocb' *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `ddptp_utls.o' # Alternatively, if I bring the 1000 built version over and do an installation, then I get this error # ./atalkd atalkd: can't get interfaces, exiting. Did I miss something in the install? Any suggestions Or is there any obvious way that I could link printing on the Ultra to spool from the 1000? Thanks Andy From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jan 18 12:11:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA24378 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:11:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA24374 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:11:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA11398; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:12:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA11396 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:12:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from infinity.gen.emory.edu (infinity.gen.emory.edu [170.140.53.130]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id MAA11392 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:12:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from infinity (infinity [170.140.53.130]) by infinity.gen.emory.edu (SMI-8.6/8.6.9-ITDgen-950524) with SMTP id MAA14680 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:10:53 -0500 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:10:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Andreas M. Kogelnik" X-Sender: kogelnik@infinity To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.6 on Ultra ....cont Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Ok, so I got the patched version from U.Washington (I think I'd been using the older U Mich version), which took care of the initial compilation problem, gets further now with minor warnings along the way, but hangs on looking for tcp.h. gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -DTCPWRAP -c dsi_tcp.c dsi_tcp.c:27: tcpd.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dsi_tcp.o' Current working directory /usr/local/build/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.1/libatalk/dsi *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all' Current working directory /usr/local/build/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.1/libatalk/dsi *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dsi' Current working directory /usr/local/build/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.1/libatalk *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `../../libatalk' Current working directory /usr/local/build/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.1/sys/solaris *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all' # find / -name tcpd.h -print # tcpd.h doesn't seem to be on this system. Anyone have any thoughts? Any thoughts on the second workaround from my previous message are still welcome. Thanks Andy From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jan 18 12:51:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA25222 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:51:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA25217 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:51:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA23362; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:51:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA23356 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:51:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA23350 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:51:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17593; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:51:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from cec.mtu.edu (root@cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.196]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03557; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:51:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from critter.cec.mtu.edu (critter.cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.204]) by cec.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/mtumailer-1.2) with SMTP id MAA11859; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:51:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:51:41 -0500 (EST) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@critter.cec.mtu.edu To: "Andreas M. Kogelnik" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.6 on Ultra ....cont In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Andreas M. Kogelnik wrote: > gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include > -DTCPWRAP -c dsi_tcp.c > dsi_tcp.c:27: tcpd.h: No such file or directory I assume you should take out the -DTCPWRAP as you are missing the the tcp wrappers header files. > Any thoughts on the second workaround from my previous message are still > welcome. I started a web page for Netatalk on Solaris 2--I swear I've seen one before, but I don't have the energy to go looking. http://www.cec.mtu.edu/Doc/FAQ/netatalk.html It ain't much. - edan From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jan 18 13:27:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA26578 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 13:27:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA26570 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 13:27:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA29624; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 13:27:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA29617 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 13:27:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from bucket.fks.lan (bendnet-gw.ees.com [199.2.205.245]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA29610 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 13:27:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from phluffy.fks.lan (myke@phluffy.fks.lan [10.0.0.2]) by bucket.fks.lan (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA13888; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 10:23:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 10:23:43 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.fks.lan To: "Andreas M. Kogelnik" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.6 on Ultra ....cont In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Andreas M. Kogelnik wrote: > tcpd.h doesn't seem to be on this system. Anyone have any thoughts? You need to either install the "TCP Wrappers" package, or comment out the TCP wrapper section in the Makefile. - Mike From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jan 18 16:47:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA00654 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:47:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA00650 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:47:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA24829; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:48:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA24806 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:48:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from infinity.gen.emory.edu (infinity.gen.emory.edu [170.140.53.130]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id QAA24675 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:47:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from infinity (infinity [170.140.53.130]) by infinity.gen.emory.edu (SMI-8.6/8.6.9-ITDgen-950524) with SMTP id QAA17397 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:46:03 -0500 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:46:03 -0500 (EST) From: "Andreas M. Kogelnik" X-Sender: kogelnik@infinity To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.6 problems SOLVED!!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Got it working!! Thanks so much to everyone who responded with help and suggestions (and despite my boneheadedness.... part of the problem had been that I created /usr/local/atalk/etc/atalkd.conf as atalk.conf...ooops). Andy Andreas M. Kogelnik M.D./Ph.D. Program Bioengineering Program Center for Molecular Medicine College of Computing Emory University School of Medicine Georgia Institute of Technology 1462 Clifton Rd - Suite 403 801 Atlantic Drive Atlanta, GA 30322 Atlanta, GA 30332 kogelnik@emory.edu kogelnik@cc.gatech.edu (404) 727-8801 From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jan 18 19:14:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA03238 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 19:14:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA03234 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 19:14:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA17882; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 19:15:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA17869 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 19:15:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.tpeek.com (ppp1.tpeek.com [204.130.209.188]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA17808 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 19:15:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from [204.130.209.66] (tracyp.tpeek.com [204.130.209.66]) by mail.tpeek.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA02649 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 17:16:09 -0700 Message-Id: <199801180016.RAA02649@mail.tpeek.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Large Volume Support? Date: Sun, 18 Jan 98 17:15:19 -0000 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Tracy Peek To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello Everyone On This List ... I have a problem I hope that can be solved ... I have installed a 9 gig drive in my server and have made two partitions of just of 4.0 gigs a piece. One for appleshare (netatalk) and one fro Samba (PC Support). If though a "df" shows only 21 percent used on the netatalk volume .. the mac client finder shows only 200 megs available. Is this a problem with the finder or with netatalk not showing the correct amount of free space available to the clients ... If netatalk is there a patch or fix during compile? Tracy Peek tracyp@mail.tpeek.com From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jan 19 03:26:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id DAA19202 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 03:26:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA19195 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 03:26:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id DAA08274; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 03:27:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id DAA08271 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 03:27:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-smtp.imaginet.net (alcor.imaginet.fr [194.51.83.171]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA08260 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 03:27:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from imaginet.fr (zoltar.imaginet.fr [194.51.83.150]) by relay-smtp.imaginet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25320 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:23:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from idnet-local.fr (cyber124.paris.imaginet.fr [194.51.82.139]) by imaginet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.31) with SMTP id JAA00288 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:26:59 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199801190826.JAA00288@imaginet.fr> Received: (qmail 7239 invoked from network); 19 Jan 1998 08:30:53 -0000 Received: from idnet-local.fr (HELO p133.idnet-local.fr) (nico@192.168.1.1) by idnet-local.fr with SMTP; 19 Jan 1998 08:30:52 -0000 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:30:44 +0100 (MET) From: nico@idnet.fr Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Large Volume Support? To: tracyp@mail.tpeek.com cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <199801180016.RAA02649@mail.tpeek.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On 18 Jan, Tracy Peek wrote: > Hello Everyone On This List ... > > I have a problem I hope that can be solved ... I have installed a 9 > gig drive in my server and have made two partitions of just of 4.0 > gigs a piece. One for appleshare (netatalk) and one fro Samba (PC > Support). If though a "df" shows only 21 percent used on the netatalk > volume .. the mac client finder shows only 200 megs available. Hm, looks like a 32 bits problem ... There is a problem in MacOS < 8.0 (or is it 7.6?) for calculating disk & file sizes. 32 bits are not enough. Now, the MacOS you're using might be supporting large sizes, but Netatalk may still report them on 32 bits. > Is this a problem with the finder or with netatalk not showing the > correct amount > of free space available to the clients ... If netatalk is there a patch > or fix > during compile? I don't know whether netatalks supports large drives; MacOS 8 itself does. -- Nicolas MONNET - Developer, IdeaNet, Paris "A nuclear war can ruin your whole day." From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jan 19 09:43:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA11673 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:43:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA11668 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:43:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id JAA28096; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:44:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id JAA28084 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:44:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from schubert.promo.de (schubert.Promo.DE [194.45.188.65]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA28070 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from stefan.promo.de (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA17539; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:42:04 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:43:31 +0100 From: "Stefan Bethke" To: "Amitai Schlair" cc: Netatalk-Admins Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: AppleTalk routing Message-ID: <762799.3094213411@stefan.promo.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry Demo (MacOS) [1.4.0a1, s/n Evaluation] X-Licensed-To: Unlicensed - for evaluation only MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --On Sam, 17. Jan 1998 21:06 Uhr -0500 "Amitai Schlair" wrote: > Despite my total lack of experience with and understanding of AppleTalk > internals, I managed to hack my way partly there. If you don't want to get your network admins *really* angry at you, shut down atalkd immediately. > Despite my inexperience, I'm pretty sure my ae1 netrange setting is why > I can't see the machines on the LAN... but I can't get anything at all > when I set it properly (25-50). 25-50 in this case is the only one known to be definitly wrong for your private net. > I'm also getting a lot of messages on the console: I bet. There are probably conflicts in the network. > and so on. I hope I'm not making an AppleStorm on the LAN! How can I fix > all this to work properly? Ask your admins. This is the only way to get it right without (possibly) bringing down the entire AppleTalk network. For hints, you can take a look at http://www.promo.de/people/stefan/netatalk/router.html Hope this helps, Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-18 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jan 19 10:00:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA12328 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:00:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA12293 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:00:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA03268; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:00:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA03252 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:00:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from netit.be ([194.7.86.222]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA03217 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:00:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from netit.be ([194.7.74.19]) by netit.be (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01446 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:57:15 +0100 Message-ID: <34C36A09.43802E4B@netit.be> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:58:18 +0100 From: chris thoen Organization: Net It Be X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] modifications on AppleVolumes.system and reboot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, I'm using netatalk 1.4b2 on Linux 2.33. Everytime I do some changes on my AppleVolumes.system file, I have to reboot. I read somewhere that compiling the ipx protocol as a module was a solution. So I did, inserted the ipx-protocol by the command "insmod ipx", and launched my appletalk software. This works fine, but even after deleting the appletalk processes, deleting and reloading the appletalk module, I get the errors: " starting appletalk daemons: atalkdnbp_rgstr: Connection timed out Can't register chris-pc:Workstation@* nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out Can't register chris-pc:netatalk@* " and have to reboot. What I'm I doing wrong? Thanks, Chris -- Chris THOEN Systeembeheerder Net it be Posthoflei 3 2600 BERCHEM tel : 03/286.04.34 fax : 03/286.04.70 email : christ@netit.be url : www.netit.be From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jan 19 10:37:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA15504 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:37:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA15496 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:37:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA17684; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:37:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA17666 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:37:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from argonaut.w3-design.com (argonaut.w3-design.com [209.85.7.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA17653 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:37:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from w3-design.com (jeff@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA01853 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:37:58 -0800 Message-ID: <34C37356.AEEE0735@w3-design.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:37:58 +0000 From: Jeff Wiegley Organization: W3-design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] A little more info on my 5.0 + netatalk problem... References: <34C36A09.43802E4B@netit.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm not a PAM wizard but this crops up in the /var/log/messages file when a netatalk login attempt fails... Jan 19 07:28:19 server afpd[457]: ASIP session:548(2) from 209.85.7.12:2050(4) Jan 19 07:28:19 server pam[457]: unable to dlopen(/lib/security/pam_unix_auth.so) Jan 19 07:28:19 server pam[457]: [dlerror: /lib/security/pam_unix_auth.so: undefined symbol: crypt] Jan 19 07:28:19 server pam[457]: adding faulty module: /lib/security/pam_unix_auth.so Jan 19 07:28:19 server afpd[362]: server_child[1] 457 done Does this help anybody figure out what I did wrong? - Jeff From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jan 19 10:45:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA16277 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:45:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.144.15]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA16266 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:45:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA17368 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:19:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA09799; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:19:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA09791 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:19:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from argonaut.w3-design.com (argonaut.w3-design.com [209.85.7.7]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA09776 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:19:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from w3-design.com (jeff@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA01830 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:19:52 -0800 Message-ID: <34C36F18.D1E9E983@w3-design.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:19:52 +0000 From: Jeff Wiegley Organization: W3-design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Oh Crud. RedHat 5.0 + netatalk asun18 won't accept my passwords, please help me. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu So of course everything has been running smoothly with the server here at work. It was running RedHat 4.2 and netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17. However since we wanted to double the size of or RAID we thought it would be a great time to upgrade to RedHat 5.0 since we would have to wipe the drives anyways. Well the latest version of netatalk now appears to be netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.1 but since compiling this and restroring our shared data from tape we can't use it because when the applshare cooser asks you for a name and password it always comes back as an invalid password. I am using the *exact* same /etc/passwd file that I had been using with RedHat 4.2 and I can log directly into the server using telnet without any problems. ANybody know what I screwed up? I would really appreciate your help since I have 25 employees coming in half an hour who won't be able to do anything since they can't get to their files and I've already been fiddling with the server for 20hours straight. Thanks, - Jeff I... Just... Can't... Take... it... anymore!!! From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jan 19 10:48:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA16634 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:48:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA16626 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:48:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA17887; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:49:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA17880 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:49:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from argonaut.w3-design.com (argonaut.w3-design.com [209.85.7.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA17875 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:49:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from w3-design.com (jeff@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA01868 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 07:48:43 -0800 Message-ID: <34C375DB.5784D698@w3-design.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:48:43 +0000 From: Jeff Wiegley Organization: W3-design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Nevermind... fixed it myself. *but*... References: <34C36A09.43802E4B@netit.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Contrary to what the Makefile in sys/linux/Makefile says... # if you aren't using pam and are using glibc, you'll need to add -lcrypt AFPLIBS= -lcrypt ADDLIBS= well, I thought RedHet 5.0 does use glibc *and* PAM so I shouldn't need -lcrypt according to the above comment. But appearantly I really did need -lcrypt since that fixed my netatalk login problems. - Jeff From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jan 19 11:15:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA19078 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:15:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA19055 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:15:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA27860; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:16:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA27850 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:16:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.advancenet.net (hermes.cu-online.com [205.198.248.82]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA27840 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:16:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.argus-systems.com (ranger.argus-systems.com [206.221.232.80]) by mail.advancenet.net (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA30217; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:17:50 -0600 Received: from localhost by mail.argus-systems.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA04886; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:14:37 -0600 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:14:37 -0600 From: Andrew McNabb To: Tracy Peek cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Large Volume Support? In-Reply-To: <199801180016.RAA02649@mail.tpeek.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Tracy Peek wrote: > Hello Everyone On This List ... > > I have a problem I hope that can be solved ... I have installed a 9 gig > drive in my > server and have made two partitions of just of 4.0 gigs a piece. One for > appleshare > (netatalk) and one fro Samba (PC Support). If though a "df" shows only 21 > percent > used on the netatalk volume .. the mac client finder shows only 200 megs > available. MacOS has some problems with large volumes. However, the problem depends on the model of the computer. Certain types of Macs running 7.5.2 or later will support any size of a hard drive (up to several terabytes). However, anything else has an upper limit that is more restrictive: 4GB. Any MacOS system before 7.5 can only support 2GB. Apple has several documents relating to this in the TIL: http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/14b806f5b63e5c3386256495005accbb/080c8b10534e844c86256495006261ae?OpenDocument http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/14b806f5b63e5c3386256495005accbb/3997faec66e00b4a8625649500661f98?OpenDocument http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/14b806f5b63e5c3386256495005accbb/244c2208e9767b7a86256495006805ac?OpenDocument http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/14b806f5b63e5c3386256495005accbb/5bfbbe9cf9a32555862564dc00752ded?OpenDocument > > > Is this a problem with the finder or with netatalk not showing the > correct amount > of free space available to the clients ... If netatalk is there a patch > or fix > during compile? > > > Tracy Peek > tracyp@mail.tpeek.com > ---------------------------------------------- Andrew McNabb Argus Systems Group amcnabb@argus-systems.com ---------------------------------------------- I am an International Arms Trafficker!!!!! http://online.offshore.com.ai/arms-trafficker/ ---------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jan 19 12:33:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA23406 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:33:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA23400 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:33:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA03484; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:33:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA03432 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:33:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out2.apple.com (mail-out2.apple.com [17.254.0.51]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA03391 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:33:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from scv3.apple.com (A17-128-100-121.apple.com [17.128.100.121]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27470; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:33:26 -0800 Received: from [17.221.34.231] (zarzda.apple.com [17.221.34.231]) by scv3.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA26916; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:33:25 -0800 Message-Id: <199801191733.JAA26916@scv3.apple.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] A little more info on my 5.0 + netatalk problem... Date: Mon, 19 Jan 98 09:35:15 -0800 x-sender: zarzycki@pop.ricochet.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Dave Zarzycki To: "Jeff Wiegley" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On 1/19/98 7:37 AM, Jeff Wiegley (jeff@w3-design.com) wrote: >I'm not a PAM wizard but this crops up in the /var/log/messages file >when a netatalk login attempt fails... <...snip...> >Jan 19 07:28:19 server pam[457]: unable to >dlopen(/lib/security/pam_unix_auth.so) >Jan 19 07:28:19 server pam[457]: [dlerror: /lib/security/pam_unix_auth.so: >undefined symbol: crypt] <...snip...> >Does this help anybody figure out what I did wrong? You need to recompile against the new version of PAM included with 5.0 davez ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Zarzycki Student Intern San Jose State University Apple Computer, Inc. dzarzyck@email.sjsu.edu zarzycki@apple.com zarzycki@ricochet.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP Fingerprints (RSA): 8AF2 1040 8A9C D025 47BE 70DD A51C C887 DSS/Diffie-Hellman: CB9E 2621 B4BA 3F96 3516 B312 15B4 D842 3809 EF99 Contact pgpkeys.mit.edu for my public keys. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jan 19 13:19:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA26165 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:19:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA26160 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:19:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA13922; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:19:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA13913 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:19:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from infiniteloop.com (entropy.sihope.com [206.9.159.65]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA13890 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:19:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (netatalk@localhost) by infiniteloop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA22324; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:16:57 -0600 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:16:56 -0600 (CST) From: Nate Carlson To: Jeff Wiegley cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Oh Crud. RedHat 5.0 + netatalk asun18 won't accept my passwords, please help me. In-Reply-To: <34C36F18.D1E9E983@w3-design.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I would highly recommend moving back to RedHat 4.2. RedHat 5.0 has some problems out of the box, which you may want to try fixing by downloading the stuff in the 'updates' section of their ftp site, but I would just recommend going back to 4.2 until 5.1 or 5.2 comes out. -Nate Carlson The Infinite Loop natecars@infiniteloop.com On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Jeff Wiegley wrote: > So of course everything has been running smoothly with the server here > at work. It was running RedHat 4.2 and netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17. However > since we wanted to double the size of or RAID we thought it would be a > great time to upgrade to RedHat 5.0 since we would have to wipe the > drives anyways. > > Well the latest version of netatalk now appears to be > netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.1 but since compiling this and restroring > our shared data from tape we can't use it because when the > applshare cooser asks you for a name and password it always comes back > as an invalid password. > > I am using the *exact* same /etc/passwd file that I had been using > with RedHat 4.2 and I can log directly into the server using telnet > without any problems. > > ANybody know what I screwed up? I would really appreciate your help > since I have 25 employees coming in half an hour who won't be able to > do anything since they can't get to their files and I've already been > fiddling with the server for 20hours straight. > > Thanks, > > - Jeff > I... Just... Can't... Take... it... anymore!!! > From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jan 19 14:43:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA29470 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:43:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA29465 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:43:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA19816; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:43:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA19364 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:42:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from infiniteloop.com (entropy.sihope.com [206.9.159.65]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA19303 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (netatalk@localhost) by infiniteloop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA24577 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:40:16 -0600 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:40:15 -0600 (CST) From: Nate Carlson To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Disabling Routing in Netatalk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I need to get a netatalk server which does not do appletalk routing, but still allows people to connect from any of the three ethernet cards in the machines. I have applied the patch to disable routing, and it does, but afpd only binds to one address, so only people on that network card can attach. Somebody told me to modify etc/afpd/main.c:main() so that afpd only binds to one address, but (being fairly new at c), I have not been able to figure out how to do this. Does someone have a patch that does this already? (It looks like asun2 allows you to bind it to a certain address, but that is only for TCP/IP, right?) Or, could someone give me a few pointers on how to modify the source? Thanks! -Nate Carlson The Infinite Loop natecars@infiniteloop.com From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jan 19 15:17:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA02280 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:17:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA02276 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:17:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA02619; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:17:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA02595 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:17:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA02567 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:17:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00357; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:17:12 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA00493; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:17:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:17:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199801192017.MAA00493@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: jeff@w3-design.com CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <34C375DB.5784D698@w3-design.com> (message from Jeff Wiegley on Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:48:43 +0000) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Nevermind... fixed it myself. *but*... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Contrary to what the Makefile in sys/linux/Makefile says... # if you aren't using pam and are using glibc, you'll need to add -lcrypt AFPLIBS= -lcrypt ADDLIBS= well, I thought RedHet 5.0 does use glibc *and* PAM so I shouldn't need -lcrypt according to the above comment. But appearantly I really did need -lcrypt since that fixed my netatalk login problems. actually, it's redhat 5.0 that is wrong here. applications shouldn't need to link against -lcrypt as specific pam modules which need it should do so themselves. for example, this is what i get when i do an ldd against /lib/security/pam_auth_unix.so: libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x40004000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40031000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x2aaaa000) it looks like redhat 5.0 didn't build the pam modules correctly. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jan 19 21:07:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA16269 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:07:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA16262 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:07:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA22926; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:08:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA22920 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:08:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from Au.oro.net (Au.oro.net [198.68.62.48]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA22913 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:08:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from Au.oro.net (jcp-ip@smtp.oro.net [198.68.62.77]) by Au.oro.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA26285 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:06:38 -0800 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:06:38 -0800 (PST) From: jc pryor To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Basic installation In-Reply-To: <199801180016.RAA02649@mail.tpeek.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, Your average macophile, linux-ignorant newbie here. I'm trying to install netatalk on a linux box (486) that will serve as a local server for our 7 macs, and I'm stumped with failed dependencies (Redhat 4.2) [root@yserv RPMS]# rpm -i netatalk-1.4b2-lorax4.i386.rpm failed dependencies: /bin/sh is needed by netatalk-1.4b2-lorax4 libdl.so.2 is needed by netatalk-1.4b2-lorax4 libc.so.6 is needed by netatalk-1.4b2-lorax4 ld-linux.so.2 is needed by netatalk-1.4b2-lorax4 Anybody have any clues where I should go next? I did read the netatalk HOWTO ... jc - the clueless. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jan 19 21:52:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA17511 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:52:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA17493 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:52:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA05458; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:53:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA05453 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:53:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from infiniteloop.com (entropy.sihope.com [206.9.159.65]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA05442 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 21:53:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (netatalk@localhost) by infiniteloop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA06469; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 20:49:38 -0600 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 20:49:38 -0600 (CST) From: Nate Carlson To: jc pryor cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Basic installation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu You may want to try installing with '--nodeps'. It could help.. otherwise, it's time to upgrade libraries. Ask around if you need help doing that.. -Nate Carlson the infinite loop natecars@infiniteloop.com On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, jc pryor wrote: > > Hello, > > Your average macophile, linux-ignorant newbie here. > > I'm trying to install netatalk on a linux box (486) that will serve as a > local server for our 7 macs, and I'm stumped with failed dependencies > > (Redhat 4.2) > > [root@yserv RPMS]# rpm -i netatalk-1.4b2-lorax4.i386.rpm > failed dependencies: > /bin/sh is needed by netatalk-1.4b2-lorax4 > libdl.so.2 is needed by netatalk-1.4b2-lorax4 > libc.so.6 is needed by netatalk-1.4b2-lorax4 > ld-linux.so.2 is needed by netatalk-1.4b2-lorax4 > > Anybody have any clues where I should go next? I did read the netatalk > HOWTO ... > > > jc - the clueless. > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 04:29:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA04068 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA04060 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:29:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA02089; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:29:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA02087 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:29:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA02071 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:29:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:29:14 +0100 Received: (from schwarz@localhost) by lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) id KAA11894 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:29:08 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199801200929.KAA11894@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Permissions? To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:29:08 +0100 (MET) From: Georg Schwarz Reply-To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu My Netatalk installation (1.4 beta) uses permissions -rw-rw-rw- when creat= ing files from a Mac on a UNIX volume. Could I reconfigure it to use -rw------- instead? Thanks. --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik Tel. +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ Sekr. PN 7-1, Hardenbergstr. 36, D-10623 Berlin IRC: kuroi From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 05:20:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA20713 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:20:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA20709 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:20:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA06007; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:20:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA06003 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:20:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from seldon.dtek.chalmers.se (seldon.dtek.chalmers.se [129.16.30.6]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA05999 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from licia.dtek.chalmers.se (d2agby@licia.dtek.chalmers.se [129.16.30.88]) by seldon.dtek.chalmers.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08928; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:20:35 +0100 (MET) From: Jens Agby Received: (from d2agby@localhost) by licia.dtek.chalmers.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25212; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:20:32 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199801201020.LAA25212@licia.dtek.chalmers.se> Subject: [netatalk-admins] connection timed out? To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:20:32 +0100 (MET) Cc: gud@chs.chalmers.se (G.U.D.) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu A question from a newbie netatalk-admin. We are running Netatalk 1.4b2 + all official patches on a Solaris 2.5 system and keep on getting the following message: afpd[xxxxx]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Connection timed out I haven't heard any complains from our users that I can relate to these messages. Should I be worried? BTW, anybody out there running Netatalk under Solaris 2.6 ? We are thinking of upgrading to 2.6 but are concerned of how well Netatalk works together with it. -- Jens Agby d2agby@dtek.chalmers.se It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses. (Elwood Blues) From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 06:31:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA22666 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:31:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA22662 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:31:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA12742; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:31:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA12738 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:31:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from bock.freinet.de (bock.freinet.de [193.141.226.1]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id GAA12730 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:31:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from prometheus (helge@id-online.freinet.de [193.141.226.117]) by bock.freinet.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA05393; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:30:23 +0100 Message-ID: <34C48C0B.35306992@id-online.de> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:35:39 +0100 From: Helge =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=FCnnich?= Organization: ID-Online X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nate Carlson CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Disabling Routing in Netatalk References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------10CFC1FB60C7CD3F30C6BD9" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------10CFC1FB60C7CD3F30C6BD9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nate Carlson wrote: > > I need to get a netatalk server which does not do appletalk routing, but > still allows people to connect from any of the three ethernet cards in the > machines. I have applied the patch to disable routing, and it does, but > afpd only binds to one address, so only people on that network card can > attach. Somebody told me to modify etc/afpd/main.c:main() so that afpd > only binds to one address, but (being fairly new at c), I have not been > able to figure out how to do this. Does someone have a patch that does > this already? (It looks like asun2 allows you to bind it to a certain > address, but that is only for TCP/IP, right?) Or, could someone give me a > few pointers on how to modify the source? Thanks! > > -Nate Carlson > The Infinite Loop > natecars@infiniteloop.com I have a patch for the ddp - part of the LINUXkernel(2.0.29-31). It stops the routing to the ethercards, but not the "internal routing" : all ethernets can connect to the afpd, without seeing each other. The patch is not so clever, but it works fine for me. B.d. Helge -- ID-Online Tel.: +49 761 290035 Schauinslandstr. 26c Fax : +49 761 290034 D-79100 Freiburg --------------10CFC1FB60C7CD3F30C6BD9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="ddp_no_route_patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="ddp_no_route_patch" --- ddp.c.orig Fri May 31 12:46:27 1996 +++ ddp.c Fri Mar 28 16:32:51 1997 @@ -1489,10 +1489,16 @@ { kfree_skb(skb, FREE_READ); return(0); } #endif + +#if 1 /* Don't do appletalk routing */ + kfree_skb(skb, FREE_READ); + return 0; +#endif + ta.s_net=ddp->deh_dnet; ta.s_node=ddp->deh_dnode; /* Route the packet */ rt=atrtr_find(&ta); --------------10CFC1FB60C7CD3F30C6BD9-- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 06:49:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA23196 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:49:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA23189 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:49:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA08360; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:49:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA08358 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:49:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA08350 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 06:49:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA21978 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:49:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr02.primenet.com(206.165.6.202) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpd021971; Tue Jan 20 04:49:38 1998 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:49:38 -0600 (CST) From: Greg Putrich To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] connection timed out? In-Reply-To: <199801201020.LAA25212@licia.dtek.chalmers.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, Jens Agby wrote: >A question from a newbie netatalk-admin. > >We are running Netatalk 1.4b2 + all official patches on a Solaris 2.5 >system and keep on getting the following message: > >afpd[xxxxx]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Connection timed out I recently installed netatalk on FreeBSD 2.2.2 and my one client, a Mac PB170 running Sys 7.5.1 worked flawlessly under load. Then upgraded to 7.5.3 with OT 1.1. I started getting this error quite frequently, almost to the point on not being usable. The mounted drive on the Mac would disappear. I upgraded very soon after to v7.5.5. Still using OT, but the occurance of this message has gone way down. Under Classic Networking in 7.5.3, results were much better. Haven't tried CN in 7.5.5 since OT seems to be working fine. Haven't put it under load or left it alone much tho. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Putrich - Internet: gregp@primenet.com [PINE] Public Key 3430B1E1 = 28 AF 67 4B 0E B5 79 57 79 30 B6 C6 4C CF 43 A6 "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered. My life is my own." - No. 6 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 10:51:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA01031 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:51:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA01025 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:51:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA19908; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:51:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA19619 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:50:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from amazon.delgroup.com (amazon.delgroup.com [198.135.110.6]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA19103 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:49:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from yangtze.eng.delgroup.com (yangtze.eng.delgroup.com [10.88.8.8]) by amazon.delgroup.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA13723 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:50:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from eng.delgroup.com (wissahickon.eng.delgroup.com [10.88.8.3]) by yangtze.eng.delgroup.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA00560 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:46:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34C4C730.5A419CA7@eng.delgroup.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:48:00 -0500 From: "Jonathan R. Wilner" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems With AppleVolumes.System Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Forgive me if this is a FAQ, but It was my impression that using AppleVolumes.System in ETCDIR would allow the Mac to interpret the various UNIX, PCs, etc extensions as the correct file types, even without resource forks. Unfortunately, unless I create files from the Mac, or use FileTyper to change the fork, everything shows up as text files. Is there any way to do this? Is AppleVolumes supposed to do it? I would greatly appreciate any help & would definitely summarize for a FAQ. Thanks, Jonathan Wilner From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 11:25:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA02973 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:25:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA02967 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:25:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA04113; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:25:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA03552 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:24:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from Au.oro.net (Au.oro.net [198.68.62.48]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA03519 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:24:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from Au.oro.net (jcp-ip@smtp.oro.net [198.68.62.77]) by Au.oro.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA16620; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:23:38 -0800 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:23:38 -0800 (PST) From: jc pryor To: Nate Carlson cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Basic installation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Nate Carlson wrote: > You may want to try installing with '--nodeps'. It could help.. otherwise, > it's time to upgrade libraries. Ask around if you need help doing that.. I'll do some sniffing and searching amongst Redhat's documentations and come back with any questions. Thanks. It helps to have a term to search on! jc From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 11:35:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA03773 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:35:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA03769 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:35:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA09094; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:35:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA08586 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:34:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from odin.INS.CWRU.Edu (odin.INS.CWRU.Edu [129.22.8.102]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA07961 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:32:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (trier@localhost) by odin.INS.CWRU.Edu (8.8.6+cwru/CWRU-2.4-ins) id LAA05323; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:32:43 -0500 (EST) (from trier) Message-Id: <199801201632.LAA05323@odin.INS.CWRU.Edu> From: trier@odin.INS.CWRU.Edu (Stephen C. Trier) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:32:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: amitai.schlair@usa.net (Amitai Schlair) "[netatalk-admins] Re: AppleTalk routing" (Jan 17, 9:06pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: amitai.schlair@usa.net (Amitai Schlair), netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk-Admins) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: AppleTalk routing Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Amitai, Your first step, before all else, is to contact your network managers. Experiments with routing on a live campus network can disrupt network access for thousands of people. This is unacceptable. This applies to ALL networks, not just CWRUnet. You cannot possibly set up an AppleTalk router safely without coordinating with whoever manages routing for the entire network. Don't try it. Take the time to find the routing manager and talk to them BEFORE you start experimenting. Stephen Trier CWRUnet Communications Engineering group -- Stephen Trier KG8IH "[I]t's time to put your power supply under the Work: trier@ins.cwru.edu cardboard pyramid in the fridge with the oranges Home: sct@po.cwru.edu and razor blades under it." - jangus@skyld.tele.com From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 11:57:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA05107 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:57:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA05101 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:57:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA18073; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:57:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA18038 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:57:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.finan.com (www.finan.com [209.96.27.162]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA17912 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:56:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from [209.96.27.174] (bill.finan.com [209.96.27.174]) by www.finan.com (8.8.7/8.8.5/finan1.1) with ESMTP id KAA16131 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:56:37 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <34C4C730.5A419CA7@eng.delgroup.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:56:01 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Bill Stewart-Cole Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems With AppleVolumes.System Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 9:48 AM -0600 1/20/98, Jonathan R. Wilner wrote: >Forgive me if this is a FAQ, but It was my impression that using >AppleVolumes.System in ETCDIR would allow the Mac to interpret the >various UNIX, PCs, etc extensions as the correct file types, even >without resource forks. Unfortunately, unless I create files from the >Mac, or use FileTyper to change the fork, everything shows up as text >files. To be a bit pedantic: types and creators are not directly related to resource forks. The only connection is that both the extra data stream in some Mac files and the extra meta-information connected to most Mac files set Mac files apart from files in simpler filesystems. >Is there any way to do this? Is AppleVolumes supposed to do it? I would >greatly appreciate any help & would definitely summarize for a FAQ. That's certainly what AppleVolumes.system is supposed to do, but AppleVolumes.System will probably do nothing. :) The pitfalls: 1. Unix filesystems are case-sensitive. 2. AppleVolumes.system in a user's home directory will override ETCDIR/AppleVolumes.system. 3. Wherever it is, AppleVolumes.system must be readable by the user. If it is mode 0600 root.root you will not be using it... ---- Bill Stewart-Cole This space for rent. Inquire within. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 12:03:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA05590 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:03:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA05581 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:02:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA19567; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:02:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA19462 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:02:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.sacbee.com (mail.sacbee.com [204.86.242.27]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA18887 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:01:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from exchange1.sacbee.com (exchange1.sacbee.com [128.103.5.210]) by mail.sacbee.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA21630 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:04:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from matteo.sacbee.com by exchange1.sacbee.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1458.49) id W0BF43YY; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:58:23 -0800 X-Sender: mmatteo@exchange1.sacbee.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <199801180016.RAA02649@mail.tpeek.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:59:02 -0800 To: jc pryor From: Marc Matteo Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Basic installation Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On 1/19/98, jc pryor wrote: >I'm trying to install netatalk on a linux box (486) that will serve as a >local server for our 7 macs, and I'm stumped with failed dependencies > >(Redhat 4.2) > >[root@yserv RPMS]# rpm -i netatalk-1.4b2-lorax4.i386.rpm >failed dependencies: > /bin/sh is needed by netatalk-1.4b2-lorax4 > libdl.so.2 is needed by netatalk-1.4b2-lorax4 > libc.so.6 is needed by netatalk-1.4b2-lorax4 > ld-linux.so.2 is needed by netatalk-1.4b2-lorax4 I believe your problem is you have an RPM that was built for RedHat 5.0 and you need one for RedHAt 4.2. Now I'm not sure (I only have a 4.2 setup) but I think that 'libc.so.6' is a part of the 'glibc' package that RH 5.0 supports. I'd recommend getting the source and asun's fine patches and compiling them directly. That way you won't have any RPM problems and you'll be able to keep up with the bug fixes (at least someone's doing them :)). Marc Marc Matteo Web Engineer, The Sacramento Bee (916) 321-1242 http://www.sacbee.com From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 12:17:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA06825 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:17:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA06813 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:17:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA26585; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:17:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA26493 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:17:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from oz.plymouth.edu (oz.plymouth.edu [158.136.1.100]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA26443 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:16:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.plymouth.edu (finite.plymouth.edu [158.136.75.171]) by oz.plymouth.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA31342; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:15:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34C4DBBF.90A62AAF@mail.plymouth.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:15:49 -0500 From: Casey Bisson Organization: Information Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, Netatalk Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Permissions? References: <199801200929.KAA11894@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The permissions are set by the client to be the same as the enclosing folder. I have had good luck instructing users to set permissions on folder they own using the "Sharing..." window in the finder (under the file menu). MacOS only cares about permissions on folders though.... This doesn't answer your question though, so if a more skilled admin knows how to change the behaviour, please comment. Personally, I would like to set it so files would inherit execute permissions even if MacOS doesn't know what to do with them. Casey Bisson Information Technology Plymouth State College Georg Schwarz wrote: > My Netatalk installation (1.4 beta) uses permissions -rw-rw-rw- when creating > files from a Mac on a UNIX volume. Could I reconfigure it to use -rw------- > instead? > Thanks. > -- > Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de > Institut für Theoretische Physik Tel. +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 > Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ > Sekr. PN 7-1, Hardenbergstr. 36, D-10623 Berlin IRC: kuroi From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 12:56:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA08943 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:56:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA08937 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:56:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA03996; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:57:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA03409 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:56:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyfrydol.reid.org (hyfrydol.reid.org [192.147.236.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA02745 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:55:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hyfrydol.reid.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA06284 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:56:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199801201756.JAA06284@hyfrydol.reid.org> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems With AppleVolumes.System In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 20 Jan 98 10:56:01 CST." Date: Tue, 20 Jan 98 09:56:40 -0800 From: Brian Reid X-Mts: smtp Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've never been able to get any netatalk file to show up with any creator but TEXT UNIX no matter what I put in my ApppleVolumes.system file. I had just assumed that this was an unimplemented feature. It's supposed to work? % pwd /usr/local/atalk/etc % grep afpd rc.atalk if [ -f /usr/local/atalk/etc/afpd ]; then /usr/local/atalk/etc/afpd -n Storage; echo -n ' afpd' % ls -l AppleVolumes.system -rw-r--r-- 1 reid daemon 901 Nov 23 09:14 AppleVolumes.system % more AppleVolumes.system # default . BINA UNIX # sounds .mod STrk STrk .mid Midi ttxt .aiff AIFF SNdm .wav WAVE SNdm .au ULAW SNdm # video .moov MooV mMPG .mov MooV mMPG .mpg MPEG mMPG .mpeg MPEG mMPG # formatted text .html TEXT MOS! .rtf TEXT MSWD .doc WDBN MSWD .cwk CWWP BOBO # compressed archives .bin BINA MB2P .zip ZIP ZIP .tar TARF TAR! .gz Gzip Gzip .Z ZIVM LZIV .sea ???? SITx .cpt PACT CPCT .sit SIT! SIT! .hqx TEXT SITx # graphics .tiff TIFF JVWR .tif TIFF JVWR .bmp BMPp JVWR .pct PICT ttxt .pict PICT ttxt .jpeg JPEG JVWR .jpg JPEG JVWR .gif GIFf JVWR From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 15:06:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA13639 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:06:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from us.itd.umich.edu (stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu [141.211.164.7]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA13631 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:06:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA14768; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:06:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA14758; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:05:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from toastman.us.itd.umich.edu by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA14746; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:05:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by toastman.us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/dumb-1.0) id PAA06022; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:06:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:06:51 -0500 (EST) From: Scott Venier X-Sender: scottven@toastman.us.itd.umich.edu To: Brian Reid cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems With AppleVolumes.System In-Reply-To: <199801201756.JAA06284@hyfrydol.reid.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is only sort of related, but it is a problem that I'm having with the AppleVolumes.system. I'm wondering how to specify types or creators that have a space in them (for example MP3 /MAmp). I have it in the AppleVolumes.system like this: .mp3 MP3 MAmp I've also tried: .mp3 MP3\ MAmp neither of them worked. Is it possible to specify a type or creator code with a space in it at all? Scott On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, Brian Reid wrote: > I've never been able to get any netatalk file to show up with any > creator but TEXT UNIX no matter what I put in my ApppleVolumes.system > file. I had just assumed that this was an unimplemented feature. It's > supposed to work? > > % pwd > /usr/local/atalk/etc > % grep afpd rc.atalk > if [ -f /usr/local/atalk/etc/afpd ]; then > /usr/local/atalk/etc/afpd -n Storage; echo -n ' afpd' > % ls -l AppleVolumes.system > -rw-r--r-- 1 reid daemon 901 Nov 23 09:14 AppleVolumes.system > % more AppleVolumes.system > # default > . BINA UNIX > > # sounds > .mod STrk STrk > .mid Midi ttxt > .aiff AIFF SNdm > .wav WAVE SNdm > .au ULAW SNdm > > # video > .moov MooV mMPG > .mov MooV mMPG > .mpg MPEG mMPG > .mpeg MPEG mMPG > > # formatted text > .html TEXT MOS! > .rtf TEXT MSWD > .doc WDBN MSWD > .cwk CWWP BOBO > > # compressed archives > .bin BINA MB2P > .zip ZIP ZIP > .tar TARF TAR! > .gz Gzip Gzip > .Z ZIVM LZIV > .sea ???? SITx > .cpt PACT CPCT > .sit SIT! SIT! > .hqx TEXT SITx > > # graphics > .tiff TIFF JVWR > .tif TIFF JVWR > .bmp BMPp JVWR > .pct PICT ttxt > .pict PICT ttxt > .jpeg JPEG JVWR > .jpg JPEG JVWR > .gif GIFf JVWR > ===================================================================== Scott Venier *ResComp Network Support Technician scottven@umich.edu *Consultant for Ingematics, scott@compu-aid.com a division of Compu-Aid, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 15:57:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA15914 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:57:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA15909 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:57:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA28982; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:58:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA28040 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:56:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from PeeCee.tbe.com ([192.88.94.254] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA27233 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:55:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from [140.165.70.12] (MacIIvx.tbe.com [140.165.70.12]) by PeeCee.tbe.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA06677; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 14:53:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@nebula.tbe.com) X-Sender: dkelly@peecee.tbe.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 14:53:38 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: David Kelly Subject: [netatalk-admins] AppleVolumes.system problem Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've had a little problem with the default value for ZIP files in netatalk, the commented out version is the standard value, only the 2nd works: #.zip ZIP ZIP .zip "ZIP " "ZIP " Even so, I start with a clean .AppleDouble directory, mount it R/W as myself, then from FreeBSD I see: PeeCee: {1004} hd .AppleDouble/CB980115.txt 00000000 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................| 00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 00 00 00 02 00 00 |................| 00000020 02 4d 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 56 00 00 |.M...........V..| 00000030 00 0c 00 00 00 04 00 00 01 55 00 00 00 00 00 00 |.........U......| 00000040 00 07 00 00 02 1d 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 09 00 00 |................| 00000050 02 2d 00 00 00 20 43 42 39 38 30 31 31 35 2e 74 |.-... CB980115.t| 00000060 78 74 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |xt..............| 00000070 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................| * 00000210 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 34 bf ed |.............4..| 00000220 b5 34 bf ed b5 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 54 45 58 |.4...........TEX| 00000230 54 55 4e 49 58 01 00 00 4e 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 |TUNIX...N.@.....| 00000240 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |.............| 0000024d PeeCee: {1005} Above directory mounted under System 7.1, read only as guest, this is what MPW-shell sees: directory cbd: files -l CB980115.zip Name Type Crtr Size Flags Last-Mod-Date Creation-Date -------------------- ---- ---- ------ ---------- ------------------- ------------------- CB980115.zip ZIP ZIP 221K lvbspoimad 1/16/98 5:31 PM 1/16/98 5:31 PM Whats going on here? TEXTUNIX is plainly wrong, yet the Mac sees the right thing anyhow. Is TEXTUNIX always remapped via AppleVolumes.system? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nebula.tbe.com ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 16:41:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA17773 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:41:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA17769 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:41:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA16398; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:15:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA16275 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:15:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from rheingold.reed.edu (c029h021.ipdorm.reed.edu [134.10.29.21]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA16233 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:15:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from rheingold.reed.edu (rheingold.reed.edu [134.10.29.21]) by rheingold.reed.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA00861 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 13:40:55 -0800 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 13:40:55 -0800 (PST) From: "W. Reilly Cooley, Esq." To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problem: gateways go down Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm trying to use Netatalk on a fairly busy AppleTalk network. Our main servers use CAP, and there are plenty of Mac workstations and servers. After a while, the whole things mostly goes down, fairly suddenly. An 'nbplkup' which before showed lots of hosts, now only shows a few. Here's a syslog entry when it goes down: Jan 17 08:32:01 rheingold atalkd[631]: as_timer gateway 510.217 down Jan 17 08:32:01 rheingold atalkd[631]: as_timer gateway 510.181 down Jan 17 08:32:01 rheingold atalkd[631]: as_timer gateway 510.144 down Jan 17 08:32:01 rheingold atalkd[631]: as_timer gateway 510.166 down Jan 17 08:32:01 rheingold atalkd[631]: as_timer gateway 510.141 down Jan 17 08:32:01 rheingold atalkd[631]: as_timer gateway 510.204 down Jan 17 08:32:01 rheingold atalkd[631]: as_timer gateway 511.78 down Jan 17 08:32:01 rheingold atalkd[631]: as_timer gateway 510.129 down Jan 17 08:32:31 rheingold atalkd[631]: as_timer gateway 510.217 down Jan 17 08:32:31 rheingold atalkd[631]: as_timer gateway 510.181 down Jan 17 08:32:31 rheingold atalkd[631]: as_timer gateway 510.144 down Jan 17 08:32:31 rheingold atalkd[631]: as_timer gateway 510.166 down Jan 17 08:32:31 rheingold atalkd[631]: as_timer gateway 510.141 down Jan 17 08:32:31 rheingold atalkd[631]: as_timer gateway 510.204 down Jan 17 08:32:31 rheingold atalkd[631]: as_timer gateway 511.78 down Jan 17 08:32:31 rheingold atalkd[631]: as_timer gateway 510.129 down Jan 17 08:32:31 rheingold atalkd[631]: as_timer last gateway down Is there perhaps a timer value somewhere I could tweak? Dein, Wil -- ------------------------------------------------------------- W. Reilly Cooley, Esq. Schöner Götterfunken cooleyw@reed.edu wcooley@navi.net Linux 2.0.32 RedHat 5.0 (Hurricane) These days, you can't throw a tomato out the window without hitting a college kid who knows and loves Linux. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 17:06:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA19026 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:06:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA19019 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:06:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA16782; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:06:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA16689 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:05:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from PeeCee.tbe.com ([192.88.94.254]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA16609 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:05:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from [140.165.70.12] (MacIIvx.tbe.com [140.165.70.12]) by PeeCee.tbe.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA08605; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:04:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@nebula.tbe.com) X-Sender: dkelly@peecee.tbe.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:01:10 -0600 To: Bill Stewart-Cole From: David Kelly Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AppleVolumes.system problem Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >At 2:53 PM -0600 1/20/98, David Kelly wrote: > [...] >>PeeCee: {1004} hd .AppleDouble/CB980115.txt >>00000000 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 >>|................| [...] >>00000210 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 34 bf ed >>|.............4..| >>00000220 b5 34 bf ed b5 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 54 45 58 >>|.4...........TEX| >>00000230 54 55 4e 49 58 01 00 00 4e 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 >>|TUNIX...N.@.....| >>00000240 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |.............| [...] >>Whats going on here? TEXTUNIX is plainly wrong, yet the Mac sees the right >>thing anyhow. Is TEXTUNIX always remapped via AppleVolumes.system? > >I'm not sure what you see as a problem here. CB980115.txt is a TEXT file, >CB980115.zip is a ZIP file. > >Am I just so dense that I'm missing an implied connection between the two? No, its not you, its me. I hd'ed the wrong file but the results are still the same. Everything in my .AppleDouble directory looks similar. All of the files originated on the Unix side: PeeCee: {1001} cd pub*/cbd/.A* PeeCee: {1002} hd CB980115.zip 00000000 00 05 16 07 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................| 00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 00 00 00 02 00 00 |................| 00000020 02 4d 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 56 00 00 |.M...........V..| 00000030 00 0c 00 00 00 04 00 00 01 55 00 00 00 00 00 00 |.........U......| 00000040 00 07 00 00 02 1d 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 09 00 00 |................| 00000050 02 2d 00 00 00 20 43 42 39 38 30 31 31 35 2e 7a |.-... CB980115.z| 00000060 69 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |ip..............| 00000070 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................| * 00000210 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 34 bf ed |.............4..| 00000220 b7 34 bf ed b7 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 54 45 58 |.4...........TEX| 00000230 54 55 4e 49 58 01 00 00 4e 00 c0 00 00 00 00 00 |TUNIX...N.......| 00000240 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |.............| 0000024d PeeCee: {1003} The above was generated by netatalk 1.4b2 after I mounted the volume R/W for the first time. While the above appears incorrect, the Mac's see the right thing for some reason. Messing around with it the past several hours I'm guessing type 'TEXT' and creator 'UNIX' is the general-purpose tag instructing netatalk to use AppleVolumes.system for the real information? Recompiled without -DCRLF in the afpd Makefile. Only change I've noticed is my .txt mapping to 'TEXT' 'ttxt' now works. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nebula.tbe.com ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 17:20:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA19628 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:20:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA19619 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:20:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA01922; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:20:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA01822 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:20:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from infolive.ie (gateway.infolive.ie [193.120.120.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA01547 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:19:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from scope.ie ([10.0.0.20]) by gateway.infolive.ie with ESMTP id <20614>; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:02:23 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.71] by scope.ie with ESMTP (MailShare 1.0fc5); Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:41:24 +0000 X-Sender: moran@10.0.0.20 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Tony Moran Subject: [netatalk-admins] I'm worried.. Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:41:24 +0000 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've just got netatalk going fine and purring, and am about to bring the Server on-line for the masses..well..all twenty of us anyway.. But, with a bit of talk recently on the list about Mac->Unix file translation, I'm really worried about the prospect of files being mis-translated or somehow corrupted. Especially important graphics and database/spreadsheet files.. What are the opinions and experiences out there ? - Do the default mappings that come in AppleVolumes.system suffice to take care of everything to satisfaction or have they caused problems for people..? I also added in additional mappings that were supplied to the list from last year, hoping to cover as many file types as possible, tho the users here tend not to suffix files according to the file type - tending to rely on longish descriptive names instead. I noticed that the new mappongs I took from the list-posting used completely new file typings, like GKON, R*CH, SCPL - was I wise to add these into AppleVolumes.system ? Many thanks for any advice, experiences or suggestions, Tony. __________________________________________________ Tony Moran IT Manager Ph: (+353-1)-8303455 Scope Communications. 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Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 4:41 PM -0600 1/20/98, Tony Moran wrote: >I've just got netatalk going fine and purring, and am about to bring >the Server on-line for the masses..well..all twenty of us anyway.. >But, with a bit of talk recently on the list about Mac->Unix file translation, >I'm really worried about the prospect of files being mis-translated or >somehow corrupted. Especially important graphics and database/spreadsheet >files.. The ONLY way you risk that is if you have line-ending translation turned on. IMHO it is a dangerous feature, and should not be turned on by anyone who uses anything other than plain text files on the server. >What are the opinions and experiences out there ? - Do the default mappings >that come in AppleVolumes.system suffice to take care of everything to >satisfaction or have they caused problems for people..? The default mappings are too few for most people I would think. They are not going to corrupt anything, they just might make file opening a bit of as challenge. >I also added in additional mappings that were supplied to the list from >last year, >hoping to cover as many file types as possible, tho the users here tend >not to >suffix files according to the file type - tending to rely on longish >descriptive >names instead. I noticed that the new mappongs I took from the >list-posting used >completely new file typings, like GKON, R*CH, SCPL - was I wise to add these >into AppleVolumes.system ? Probably not, since those sound like my preferred mappings... :) But seriously, The creator field is a lot less important than the type field. Respectively those are GraphicConvertor, BBEdit, and SoundApp, all of which are very nice programs in their own way, although none is likely the most common tool for opening the files that they are capable of opening. The result of using a creator code that is 'wrong' for you is that double-clicking the file will either open an application you don't want to use for that type of file OR if you don't have that application, provide ither a selection of applications capable of opening it (if Easy Open is installed) or an 'application not found' error. Getting the type wrong is a bit worse since any program that looks at it will expect one format and find another, and report the file is corrupted when in fact it is perfectly fine for its REAL type. ---- Bill Stewart-Cole This space for rent. Inquire within. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 18:03:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA22411 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:03:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from us.itd.umich.edu (stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu [141.211.164.7]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA22390 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:03:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA04160; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:03:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA04158; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:03:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from toastman.us.itd.umich.edu by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA04154; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:03:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by toastman.us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/dumb-1.0) id SAA08424; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:03:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:03:56 -0500 (EST) From: Scott Venier X-Sender: scottven@toastman.us.itd.umich.edu To: Bill Stewart-Cole cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] I'm worried.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The way I understand it, if all the files are created on a Mac, and just saved to the netatalk volume, the AppleVolumes.system doesn't come into play. The Mac will save the file with the correct type and creator codes. The mappings are for files that got onto the drive in some other way (created in unix, samba share to a pc, ftp, etc.) and don't have a .AppleDouble entry associated with them. Scott On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, Bill Stewart-Cole wrote: > At 4:41 PM -0600 1/20/98, Tony Moran wrote: > > > >I've just got netatalk going fine and purring, and am about to bring > >the Server on-line for the masses..well..all twenty of us anyway.. > >But, with a bit of talk recently on the list about Mac->Unix file translation, > >I'm really worried about the prospect of files being mis-translated or > >somehow corrupted. Especially important graphics and database/spreadsheet > >files.. > > The ONLY way you risk that is if you have line-ending translation turned > on. IMHO it is a dangerous feature, and should not be turned on by anyone > who uses anything other than plain text files on the server. > > > >What are the opinions and experiences out there ? - Do the default mappings > >that come in AppleVolumes.system suffice to take care of everything to > >satisfaction or have they caused problems for people..? > > The default mappings are too few for most people I would think. They are > not going to corrupt anything, they just might make file opening a bit of > as challenge. > > >I also added in additional mappings that were supplied to the list from > >last year, > >hoping to cover as many file types as possible, tho the users here tend > >not to > >suffix files according to the file type - tending to rely on longish > >descriptive > >names instead. I noticed that the new mappongs I took from the > >list-posting used > >completely new file typings, like GKON, R*CH, SCPL - was I wise to add these > >into AppleVolumes.system ? > > > Probably not, since those sound like my preferred mappings... :) > > But seriously, The creator field is a lot less important than the type > field. Respectively those are GraphicConvertor, BBEdit, and SoundApp, all > of which are very nice programs in their own way, although none is likely > the most common tool for opening the files that they are capable of > opening. > > The result of using a creator code that is 'wrong' for you is that > double-clicking the file will either open an application you don't want to > use for that type of file OR if you don't have that application, provide > ither a selection of applications capable of opening it (if Easy Open is > installed) or an 'application not found' error. Getting the type wrong is a > bit worse since any program that looks at it will expect one format and > find another, and report the file is corrupted when in fact it is perfectly > fine for its REAL type. > > > ---- > Bill Stewart-Cole > This space for rent. Inquire within. > > > ===================================================================== Scott Venier *ResComp Network Support Technician scottven@umich.edu *Consultant for Ingematics, scott@compu-aid.com a division of Compu-Aid, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 18:16:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA23519 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:16:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA23502 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:16:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA13074; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:16:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA13067 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:16:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from nuser.baden-online.de (nuser.baden-online.de [195.238.152.144]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA13049 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:16:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by nuser.baden-online.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id AAA29356 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 00:16:34 +0100 Received: from [192.168.59.2] (powermac.pocnet.net [192.168.59.2]) by leela.pocnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA20264 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 00:01:00 +0100 X-Sender: poc@leela.pocnet.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 00:00:47 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] I'm worried.. Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >What are the opinions and experiences out there ? I disabled File translation completely in afpd/Makefile (kick out -DCRLF). I= never had any problems since then. And if must open textfiles, I use BBEdit= on the Mac, which filters LFs and on Unix I have a small C-Pet (crlf, lfcr,= dosify) which does the job if neccessary. :wq! PoC(@pocnet.net) From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 18:32:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA24478 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:32:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA24461 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:32:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA26799; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:32:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA26791 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:32:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.finan.com (www.finan.com [209.96.27.162]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA26783; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from [209.96.27.174] (bill.finan.com [209.96.27.174]) by www.finan.com (8.8.7/8.8.5/finan1.1) with ESMTP id RAA18688; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:32:24 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:31:16 -0600 To: Scott Venier From: Bill Stewart-Cole Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] I'm worried.. Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 5:03 PM -0600 1/20/98, Scott Venier wrote: >The way I understand it, if all the files are created on a Mac, and just >saved to the netatalk volume, the AppleVolumes.system doesn't come into >play. The Mac will save the file with the correct type and creator codes. >The mappings are for files that got onto the drive in some other way >(created in unix, samba share to a pc, ftp, etc.) and don't have a >.AppleDouble entry associated with them. Yes. I guess I didn't make that clear. If all you ever do with your netatalk-shared space is move files to and from Macs via AFP, the AppleVolumes type/creator mappings serve no purpose. They only get applied to files of mysterious and dubious origins (like Unix and Wintel sources... ) ---- Bill Stewart-Cole This space for rent. Inquire within. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 19:23:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA26873 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 19:23:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA26869 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 19:23:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA20594; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 19:24:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA20592 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 19:24:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from rheingold.reed.edu (c029h021.ipdorm.reed.edu [134.10.29.21]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA20584 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 19:24:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from rheingold.reed.edu (rheingold.reed.edu [134.10.29.21]) by rheingold.reed.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA01348 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:23:26 -0800 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:23:25 -0800 (PST) From: "W. Reilly Cooley, Esq." To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problem: gateways go down In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, W. Reilly Cooley, Esq. wrote: > I'm trying to use Netatalk on a fairly busy AppleTalk network. Our main > servers use CAP, and there are plenty of Mac workstations and servers. > After a while, the whole things mostly goes down, fairly suddenly. An > 'nbplkup' which before showed lots of hosts, now only shows a few. Here's > a syslog entry when it goes down: I forgot to mention that this on Linux, through several of the later 2.0 kernels and RH 4.2 and 5.0 (i.e., libc5 and glibc2), 1.42b with and without the Adrian Sun patches. And it's only my workstation, also, in case that was unclear. I posted this first to the linux-atalk list, but several days have passed and I have received no responses. Dein, Wil -- ------------------------------------------------------------- W. Reilly Cooley, Esq. Schöner Götterfunken cooleyw@reed.edu wcooley@navi.net Linux 2.0.32 RedHat 5.0 (Hurricane) These days, you can't throw a tomato out the window without hitting a college kid who knows and loves Linux. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 22:52:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA01046 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:52:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA01037 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:52:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id WAA18513; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:53:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id WAA18501 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:53:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA18492 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:53:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (max2-180.HiWAAY.net [208.147.145.180]) by fly.HiWAAY.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA21135; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:52:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id VAA15585; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:13:54 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199801210313.VAA15585@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Tony Moran cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] I'm worried.. In-reply-to: Message from Tony Moran of "Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:41:24 GMT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:13:54 -0600 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > I've just got netatalk going fine and purring, and am about to bring > the Server on-line for the masses..well..all twenty of us anyway.. > But, with a bit of talk recently on the list about Mac->Unix file translation, > I'm really worried about the prospect of files being mis-translated or > somehow corrupted. Especially important graphics and database/spreadsheet > files.. > > What are the opinions and experiences out there ? - Do the default mappings > that come in AppleVolumes.system suffice to take care of everything to > satisfaction or have they caused problems for people..? As others have said, if a Mac wrote the file to your netatalk server then the Type and Creator fields will be correct and will remain correct. I'm trying to solve a different problem with my netatalk server than you are. I'm receiving data via email on the FreeBSD system, reformating it, then "posting" it to a public read-only directory for others to use. In this case I want sane settings for .gz, .zip, and .txt, for files that don't have a real Mac to create them. Probably the most important thing you could do to ensure data integrity is to hunt down the -DCRLF entry in afpd's Makefile and remove it! (then recompile and install) Once -DCRLF is removed netatalk will never alter the contents of a file. But with it, netatalk may take liberties on files of type TEXT -- writes to HD replacing \r with \n's, serves to Macs with \n's changed to \r's. That *could* be a nice feature but sometimes it will burn you. Acrobat files are sometimes of type TEXT when they are not really. Once the damage is done you can't repair the file without guessing. The other concern is that you don't want to lose the contents of .AppleDouble/ as possibly half of your data is stored there. If a Mac set the Type/Creator of a file on your server then that information is in the .AppleDouble directory along with the file's resource fork. Having scanned the past year's archive of this list today my head is rolling. There were a number of postings on reaping unneeded files from .AppleDouble/ as when somebody deletes the data-fork side from Unix the resource-fork side in .AppleDouble remains forever. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 22:52:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA01055 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:52:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA01040 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:52:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA09139; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA09127 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:52:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA09111; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:52:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (max2-180.HiWAAY.net [208.147.145.180]) by fly.HiWAAY.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA21108; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:52:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA15560; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 20:52:08 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199801210252.UAA15560@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Scott Venier cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems With AppleVolumes.System In-reply-to: Message from Scott Venier of "Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:06:51 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 20:52:08 -0600 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > This is only sort of related, but it is a problem that I'm having with the > AppleVolumes.system. I'm wondering how to specify types or creators that > have a space in them (for example MP3 /MAmp). I have it in the > AppleVolumes.system like this: > .mp3 MP3 MAmp > > I've also tried: > .mp3 MP3\ MAmp > > neither of them worked. Is it possible to specify a type or creator code > with a space in it at all? It amazes me sometimes how seemingly nothing interesting is happening and suddenly everybody had the same problems I'm having. Today after several hours learning more netatlk than I wanted to I found .zip "ZIP " "ZIP " is the only way to really get that trailing space in those fields. The standard AppleVolumes.system which ships with netatlk-1.4b2 is wrong. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 20 23:08:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id XAA02150 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 23:08:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA02146 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 23:08:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id XAA22569; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 23:09:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id XAA22561 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 23:09:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA22554; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 23:09:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id UAA117612; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 20:10:12 -0800 Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 20:10:11 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: Bill Stewart-Cole cc: Scott Venier , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] I'm worried.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, Bill Stewart-Cole wrote: > At 5:03 PM -0600 1/20/98, Scott Venier wrote: > > >The way I understand it, if all the files are created on a Mac, and just > >saved to the netatalk volume, the AppleVolumes.system doesn't come into > >play. The Mac will save the file with the correct type and creator codes. > >The mappings are for files that got onto the drive in some other way > >(created in unix, samba share to a pc, ftp, etc.) and don't have a > >.AppleDouble entry associated with them. > > Yes. I guess I didn't make that clear. > > If all you ever do with your netatalk-shared space is move files to and > from Macs via AFP, the AppleVolumes type/creator mappings serve no purpose. > They only get applied to files of mysterious and dubious origins (like Unix > and Wintel sources... ) Unfortunatly it's not always so. A few programs will save a file first as a 'TEXT' file, and then change its file type. Thus when it gets read, NO translation gets done, and the file is read corrupted. Though there's no good fix for this, one change might be to look and see if a file's changing translation status when changing finder attributes, and translate it on the fly if so, That way, it'll get read right. If this idea gets implimented, it should be an option. :-) Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 03:29:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id DAA15916 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 03:29:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA15912 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 03:28:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA26969; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 03:28:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA26963 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 03:28:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from listbox2.cern.ch (listbox2.cern.ch [137.138.24.200]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA26944 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 03:28:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from sunadm.cern.ch (sunadm.cern.ch [137.138.32.92]) by listbox2.cern.ch (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13860 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:28:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (reguero@localhost) by sunadm.cern.ch (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA09980 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:28:50 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: sunadm.cern.ch: reguero owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:28:49 +0100 (MET) From: Ignacio REGUERO X-Sender: reguero@sunadm Reply-To: Ignacio REGUERO To: Netatalk Subject: [netatalk-admins] PCDISIR ATalk (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, I installed netatalk 1.4b2 on a PC running Linux 2.0.27 (RedHat 4.1) in order to make a print server. As the machine was acquiring a wrong appletalk network number + address the local appletalk expert has traced the startup sequence to conclude that we are sending wrong ZIP GetNetInfo packets. Is this a known problem? Am I doing something wrong? Would anybody have a solution? Thank you ...Ignacio... Ignacio Reguero: ignacio.reguero@cern.ch CERN, European Laboratory for Particle Physics, IT Division, CH-1211 Geneva 23. Switzerland. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 18:20:13 +0100 (MET) From: "J. Michael (Mike) Gerard, CERN-IT/CS" To: Ignacio Reguero Subject: PCDISIR ATalk Packets 1-10 correct : chooses net 65280 (temporary high range number) node 13 and verifies that this is unique. Packets 11 to 20 (I think) are badly formatted GetNetInfo packets, to which no-one will reply! J. M. Gerard | Who | Network Operations Section Division IT, CERN, 1211 Geneva 23 | S-mail | mike.gerard@cern.ch | E-mail | netops@cern.ch +41 22 7674707 | Phone | +41 22 7674927 +41 79 2010526 | Natel | +41 22 7677155 | Fax | - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame 1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUMMARY Delta T Destination Source Summary M 1 090007FFFFFF 00A0C943A70B DLC 802.3 size=36 bytes LLC C D=AA S=AA UI SNAP Ethernet Type=80F3 (AppleTalk ARP) AARP Probe Node=65280.13 DLC: ----- DLC Header ----- DLC: DLC: Frame 1 arrived at 18:48:04.3271; frame size is 60 (003C hex) bytes. DLC: Destination = Multicast 090007FFFFFF DLC: Source = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: 802.3 length = 36 DLC: LLC: ----- LLC Header ----- LLC: LLC: DSAP Address = AA, DSAP IG Bit = 00 (Individual Address) LLC: SSAP Address = AA, SSAP CR Bit = 00 (Command) LLC: Unnumbered frame: UI LLC: SNAP: ----- SNAP Header ----- SNAP: SNAP: Type = 80F3 (AppleTalk ARP) SNAP: AARP:----- AARP ----- AARP: AARP: Hardware type = 1 (Ethernet) AARP: Protocol type = 809B (AppleTalk) AARP: Hardware address length = 6 bytes AARP: Protocol address length = 4 bytes AARP: Command = 3 (Probe) AARP: Hardware address - Source = 00A0C943A70B AARP: Protocol address - Tentative = 65280.13 AARP: Reserved ; Value at offset = 000000000000 AARP: Protocol address - Tentative = 65280.13 AARP: AARP:[Normal end of "AARP".] AARP: DLC: Frame padding= 10 bytes ADDR HEX ASCII 0000 09 00 07 FF FF FF 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 24 AA AA .........C...$.. 0010 03 00 00 00 80 F3 00 01 80 9B 06 04 00 03 00 A0 ................ 0020 C9 43 A7 0B 00 FF 00 0D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF .C.............. 0030 00 0D 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ..~~~~~~~~~~ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame 2 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUMMARY Delta T Destination Source Summary 2 0.0980 090007FFFFFF 00A0C943A70B DLC 802.3 size=36 bytes LLC C D=AA S=AA UI SNAP Ethernet Type=80F3 (AppleTalk ARP) AARP Probe Node=65280.13 DLC: ----- DLC Header ----- DLC: DLC: Frame 2 arrived at 18:48:04.4251; frame size is 60 (003C hex) bytes. DLC: Destination = Multicast 090007FFFFFF DLC: Source = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: 802.3 length = 36 DLC: LLC: ----- LLC Header ----- LLC: LLC: DSAP Address = AA, DSAP IG Bit = 00 (Individual Address) LLC: SSAP Address = AA, SSAP CR Bit = 00 (Command) LLC: Unnumbered frame: UI LLC: SNAP: ----- SNAP Header ----- SNAP: SNAP: Type = 80F3 (AppleTalk ARP) SNAP: AARP:----- AARP ----- AARP: AARP: Hardware type = 1 (Ethernet) AARP: Protocol type = 809B (AppleTalk) AARP: Hardware address length = 6 bytes AARP: Protocol address length = 4 bytes AARP: Command = 3 (Probe) AARP: Hardware address - Source = 00A0C943A70B AARP: Protocol address - Tentative = 65280.13 AARP: Reserved ; Value at offset = 000000000000 AARP: Protocol address - Tentative = 65280.13 AARP: AARP:[Normal end of "AARP".] AARP: DLC: Frame padding= 10 bytes ADDR HEX ASCII 0000 09 00 07 FF FF FF 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 24 AA AA .........C...$.. 0010 03 00 00 00 80 F3 00 01 80 9B 06 04 00 03 00 A0 ................ 0020 C9 43 A7 0B 00 FF 00 0D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF .C.............. 0030 00 0D 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ..~~~~~~~~~~ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame 3 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUMMARY Delta T Destination Source Summary 3 0.1000 090007FFFFFF 00A0C943A70B DLC 802.3 size=36 bytes LLC C D=AA S=AA UI SNAP Ethernet Type=80F3 (AppleTalk ARP) AARP Probe Node=65280.13 DLC: ----- DLC Header ----- DLC: DLC: Frame 3 arrived at 18:48:04.5251; frame size is 60 (003C hex) bytes. DLC: Destination = Multicast 090007FFFFFF DLC: Source = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: 802.3 length = 36 DLC: LLC: ----- LLC Header ----- LLC: LLC: DSAP Address = AA, DSAP IG Bit = 00 (Individual Address) LLC: SSAP Address = AA, SSAP CR Bit = 00 (Command) LLC: Unnumbered frame: UI LLC: SNAP: ----- SNAP Header ----- SNAP: SNAP: Type = 80F3 (AppleTalk ARP) SNAP: AARP:----- AARP ----- AARP: AARP: Hardware type = 1 (Ethernet) AARP: Protocol type = 809B (AppleTalk) AARP: Hardware address length = 6 bytes AARP: Protocol address length = 4 bytes AARP: Command = 3 (Probe) AARP: Hardware address - Source = 00A0C943A70B AARP: Protocol address - Tentative = 65280.13 AARP: Reserved ; Value at offset = 000000000000 AARP: Protocol address - Tentative = 65280.13 AARP: AARP:[Normal end of "AARP".] AARP: DLC: Frame padding= 10 bytes ADDR HEX ASCII 0000 09 00 07 FF FF FF 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 24 AA AA .........C...$.. 0010 03 00 00 00 80 F3 00 01 80 9B 06 04 00 03 00 A0 ................ 0020 C9 43 A7 0B 00 FF 00 0D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF .C.............. 0030 00 0D 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ..~~~~~~~~~~ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame 4 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUMMARY Delta T Destination Source Summary 4 0.1000 090007FFFFFF 00A0C943A70B DLC 802.3 size=36 bytes LLC C D=AA S=AA UI SNAP Ethernet Type=80F3 (AppleTalk ARP) AARP Probe Node=65280.13 DLC: ----- DLC Header ----- DLC: DLC: Frame 4 arrived at 18:48:04.6251; frame size is 60 (003C hex) bytes. DLC: Destination = Multicast 090007FFFFFF DLC: Source = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: 802.3 length = 36 DLC: LLC: ----- LLC Header ----- LLC: LLC: DSAP Address = AA, DSAP IG Bit = 00 (Individual Address) LLC: SSAP Address = AA, SSAP CR Bit = 00 (Command) LLC: Unnumbered frame: UI LLC: SNAP: ----- SNAP Header ----- SNAP: SNAP: Type = 80F3 (AppleTalk ARP) SNAP: AARP:----- AARP ----- AARP: AARP: Hardware type = 1 (Ethernet) AARP: Protocol type = 809B (AppleTalk) AARP: Hardware address length = 6 bytes AARP: Protocol address length = 4 bytes AARP: Command = 3 (Probe) AARP: Hardware address - Source = 00A0C943A70B AARP: Protocol address - Tentative = 65280.13 AARP: Reserved ; Value at offset = 000000000000 AARP: Protocol address - Tentative = 65280.13 AARP: AARP:[Normal end of "AARP".] AARP: DLC: Frame padding= 10 bytes ADDR HEX ASCII 0000 09 00 07 FF FF FF 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 24 AA AA .........C...$.. 0010 03 00 00 00 80 F3 00 01 80 9B 06 04 00 03 00 A0 ................ 0020 C9 43 A7 0B 00 FF 00 0D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF .C.............. 0030 00 0D 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ..~~~~~~~~~~ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame 5 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUMMARY Delta T Destination Source Summary 5 0.1000 090007FFFFFF 00A0C943A70B DLC 802.3 size=36 bytes LLC C D=AA S=AA UI SNAP Ethernet Type=80F3 (AppleTalk ARP) AARP Probe Node=65280.13 DLC: ----- DLC Header ----- DLC: DLC: Frame 5 arrived at 18:48:04.7251; frame size is 60 (003C hex) bytes. DLC: Destination = Multicast 090007FFFFFF DLC: Source = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: 802.3 length = 36 DLC: LLC: ----- LLC Header ----- LLC: LLC: DSAP Address = AA, DSAP IG Bit = 00 (Individual Address) LLC: SSAP Address = AA, SSAP CR Bit = 00 (Command) LLC: Unnumbered frame: UI LLC: SNAP: ----- SNAP Header ----- SNAP: SNAP: Type = 80F3 (AppleTalk ARP) SNAP: AARP:----- AARP ----- AARP: AARP: Hardware type = 1 (Ethernet) AARP: Protocol type = 809B (AppleTalk) AARP: Hardware address length = 6 bytes AARP: Protocol address length = 4 bytes AARP: Command = 3 (Probe) AARP: Hardware address - Source = 00A0C943A70B AARP: Protocol address - Tentative = 65280.13 AARP: Reserved ; Value at offset = 000000000000 AARP: Protocol address - Tentative = 65280.13 AARP: AARP:[Normal end of "AARP".] AARP: DLC: Frame padding= 10 bytes ADDR HEX ASCII 0000 09 00 07 FF FF FF 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 24 AA AA .........C...$.. 0010 03 00 00 00 80 F3 00 01 80 9B 06 04 00 03 00 A0 ................ 0020 C9 43 A7 0B 00 FF 00 0D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF .C.............. 0030 00 0D 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ..~~~~~~~~~~ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame 6 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUMMARY Delta T Destination Source Summary 6 0.1000 090007FFFFFF 00A0C943A70B DLC 802.3 size=36 bytes LLC C D=AA S=AA UI SNAP Ethernet Type=80F3 (AppleTalk ARP) AARP Probe Node=65280.13 DLC: ----- DLC Header ----- DLC: DLC: Frame 6 arrived at 18:48:04.8251; frame size is 60 (003C hex) bytes. DLC: Destination = Multicast 090007FFFFFF DLC: Source = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: 802.3 length = 36 DLC: LLC: ----- LLC Header ----- LLC: LLC: DSAP Address = AA, DSAP IG Bit = 00 (Individual Address) LLC: SSAP Address = AA, SSAP CR Bit = 00 (Command) LLC: Unnumbered frame: UI LLC: SNAP: ----- SNAP Header ----- SNAP: SNAP: Type = 80F3 (AppleTalk ARP) SNAP: AARP:----- AARP ----- AARP: AARP: Hardware type = 1 (Ethernet) AARP: Protocol type = 809B (AppleTalk) AARP: Hardware address length = 6 bytes AARP: Protocol address length = 4 bytes AARP: Command = 3 (Probe) AARP: Hardware address - Source = 00A0C943A70B AARP: Protocol address - Tentative = 65280.13 AARP: Reserved ; Value at offset = 000000000000 AARP: Protocol address - Tentative = 65280.13 AARP: AARP:[Normal end of "AARP".] AARP: DLC: Frame padding= 10 bytes ADDR HEX ASCII 0000 09 00 07 FF FF FF 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 24 AA AA .........C...$.. 0010 03 00 00 00 80 F3 00 01 80 9B 06 04 00 03 00 A0 ................ 0020 C9 43 A7 0B 00 FF 00 0D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF .C.............. 0030 00 0D 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ..~~~~~~~~~~ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame 7 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUMMARY Delta T Destination Source Summary 7 0.1000 090007FFFFFF 00A0C943A70B DLC 802.3 size=36 bytes LLC C D=AA S=AA UI SNAP Ethernet Type=80F3 (AppleTalk ARP) AARP Probe Node=65280.13 DLC: ----- DLC Header ----- DLC: DLC: Frame 7 arrived at 18:48:04.9251; frame size is 60 (003C hex) bytes. DLC: Destination = Multicast 090007FFFFFF DLC: Source = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: 802.3 length = 36 DLC: LLC: ----- LLC Header ----- LLC: LLC: DSAP Address = AA, DSAP IG Bit = 00 (Individual Address) LLC: SSAP Address = AA, SSAP CR Bit = 00 (Command) LLC: Unnumbered frame: UI LLC: SNAP: ----- SNAP Header ----- SNAP: SNAP: Type = 80F3 (AppleTalk ARP) SNAP: AARP:----- AARP ----- AARP: AARP: Hardware type = 1 (Ethernet) AARP: Protocol type = 809B (AppleTalk) AARP: Hardware address length = 6 bytes AARP: Protocol address length = 4 bytes AARP: Command = 3 (Probe) AARP: Hardware address - Source = 00A0C943A70B AARP: Protocol address - Tentative = 65280.13 AARP: Reserved ; Value at offset = 000000000000 AARP: Protocol address - Tentative = 65280.13 AARP: AARP:[Normal end of "AARP".] AARP: DLC: Frame padding= 10 bytes ADDR HEX ASCII 0000 09 00 07 FF FF FF 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 24 AA AA .........C...$.. 0010 03 00 00 00 80 F3 00 01 80 9B 06 04 00 03 00 A0 ................ 0020 C9 43 A7 0B 00 FF 00 0D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF .C.............. 0030 00 0D 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ..~~~~~~~~~~ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame 8 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUMMARY Delta T Destination Source Summary 8 0.1000 090007FFFFFF 00A0C943A70B DLC 802.3 size=36 bytes LLC C D=AA S=AA UI SNAP Ethernet Type=80F3 (AppleTalk ARP) AARP Probe Node=65280.13 DLC: ----- DLC Header ----- DLC: DLC: Frame 8 arrived at 18:48:05.0251; frame size is 60 (003C hex) bytes. DLC: Destination = Multicast 090007FFFFFF DLC: Source = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: 802.3 length = 36 DLC: LLC: ----- LLC Header ----- LLC: LLC: DSAP Address = AA, DSAP IG Bit = 00 (Individual Address) LLC: SSAP Address = AA, SSAP CR Bit = 00 (Command) LLC: Unnumbered frame: UI LLC: SNAP: ----- SNAP Header ----- SNAP: SNAP: Type = 80F3 (AppleTalk ARP) SNAP: AARP:----- AARP ----- AARP: AARP: Hardware type = 1 (Ethernet) AARP: Protocol type = 809B (AppleTalk) AARP: Hardware address length = 6 bytes AARP: Protocol address length = 4 bytes AARP: Command = 3 (Probe) AARP: Hardware address - Source = 00A0C943A70B AARP: Protocol address - Tentative = 65280.13 AARP: Reserved ; Value at offset = 000000000000 AARP: Protocol address - Tentative = 65280.13 AARP: AARP:[Normal end of "AARP".] AARP: DLC: Frame padding= 10 bytes ADDR HEX ASCII 0000 09 00 07 FF FF FF 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 24 AA AA .........C...$.. 0010 03 00 00 00 80 F3 00 01 80 9B 06 04 00 03 00 A0 ................ 0020 C9 43 A7 0B 00 FF 00 0D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF .C.............. 0030 00 0D 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ..~~~~~~~~~~ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame 9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUMMARY Delta T Destination Source Summary 9 0.1000 090007FFFFFF 00A0C943A70B DLC 802.3 size=36 bytes LLC C D=AA S=AA UI SNAP Ethernet Type=80F3 (AppleTalk ARP) AARP Probe Node=65280.13 DLC: ----- DLC Header ----- DLC: DLC: Frame 9 arrived at 18:48:05.1251; frame size is 60 (003C hex) bytes. DLC: Destination = Multicast 090007FFFFFF DLC: Source = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: 802.3 length = 36 DLC: LLC: ----- LLC Header ----- LLC: LLC: DSAP Address = AA, DSAP IG Bit = 00 (Individual Address) LLC: SSAP Address = AA, SSAP CR Bit = 00 (Command) LLC: Unnumbered frame: UI LLC: SNAP: ----- SNAP Header ----- SNAP: SNAP: Type = 80F3 (AppleTalk ARP) SNAP: AARP:----- AARP ----- AARP: AARP: Hardware type = 1 (Ethernet) AARP: Protocol type = 809B (AppleTalk) AARP: Hardware address length = 6 bytes AARP: Protocol address length = 4 bytes AARP: Command = 3 (Probe) AARP: Hardware address - Source = 00A0C943A70B AARP: Protocol address - Tentative = 65280.13 AARP: Reserved ; Value at offset = 000000000000 AARP: Protocol address - Tentative = 65280.13 AARP: AARP:[Normal end of "AARP".] AARP: DLC: Frame padding= 10 bytes ADDR HEX ASCII 0000 09 00 07 FF FF FF 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 24 AA AA .........C...$.. 0010 03 00 00 00 80 F3 00 01 80 9B 06 04 00 03 00 A0 ................ 0020 C9 43 A7 0B 00 FF 00 0D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF .C.............. 0030 00 0D 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ..~~~~~~~~~~ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame 10 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUMMARY Delta T Destination Source Summary 10 0.1000 090007FFFFFF 00A0C943A70B DLC 802.3 size=36 bytes LLC C D=AA S=AA UI SNAP Ethernet Type=80F3 (AppleTalk ARP) AARP Probe Node=65280.13 DLC: ----- DLC Header ----- DLC: DLC: Frame 10 arrived at 18:48:05.2251; frame size is 60 (003C hex) bytes. DLC: Destination = Multicast 090007FFFFFF DLC: Source = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: 802.3 length = 36 DLC: LLC: ----- LLC Header ----- LLC: LLC: DSAP Address = AA, DSAP IG Bit = 00 (Individual Address) LLC: SSAP Address = AA, SSAP CR Bit = 00 (Command) LLC: Unnumbered frame: UI LLC: SNAP: ----- SNAP Header ----- SNAP: SNAP: Type = 80F3 (AppleTalk ARP) SNAP: AARP:----- AARP ----- AARP: AARP: Hardware type = 1 (Ethernet) AARP: Protocol type = 809B (AppleTalk) AARP: Hardware address length = 6 bytes AARP: Protocol address length = 4 bytes AARP: Command = 3 (Probe) AARP: Hardware address - Source = 00A0C943A70B AARP: Protocol address - Tentative = 65280.13 AARP: Reserved ; Value at offset = 000000000000 AARP: Protocol address - Tentative = 65280.13 AARP: AARP:[Normal end of "AARP".] AARP: DLC: Frame padding= 10 bytes ADDR HEX ASCII 0000 09 00 07 FF FF FF 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 24 AA AA .........C...$.. 0010 03 00 00 00 80 F3 00 01 80 9B 06 04 00 03 00 A0 ................ 0020 C9 43 A7 0B 00 FF 00 0D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FF .C.............. 0030 00 0D 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ..~~~~~~~~~~ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame 11 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUMMARY Delta T Destination Source Summary 11 0.1222 0.255 65280.13 DLC 802.3 size=28 bytes LLC C D=AA S=AA UI SNAP ID=Apple Type=809B (AppleTalk) DDP D=0.255 S=65280.13 Type=6 (Zone) ZIP C GetNetInfo DLC: ----- DLC Header ----- DLC: DLC: Frame 11 arrived at 18:48:05.3473; frame size is 60 (003C hex) bytes. DLC: Destination = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: Source = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: 802.3 length = 28 DLC: LLC: ----- LLC Header ----- LLC: LLC: DSAP Address = AA, DSAP IG Bit = 00 (Individual Address) LLC: SSAP Address = AA, SSAP CR Bit = 00 (Command) LLC: Unnumbered frame: UI LLC: SNAP: ----- SNAP Header ----- SNAP: SNAP: Vendor ID = Apple SNAP: Type = 809B (AppleTalk) SNAP: DDP:----- DDP header ----- DDP: DDP: Hop count = 5 DDP: Length = 0 DDP: Checksum = 44D0 (should have been 6446) DDP: Destination Network Number = 0 DDP: Destination Node = 255 DDP: Destination Socket = 6 (Zone) DDP: Source Network Number = 65280 DDP: Source Node = 13 DDP: Source Socket = 6 (Zone) DDP: DDP protocol type = 6 (Zone) DDP: ZIP:----- ZIP header ----- ZIP: DLC: --- Frame too short ADDR HEX ASCII 0000 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 1C AA AA ...C.....C...... 0010 03 08 00 07 80 9B 14 00 44 D0 00 00 FF 00 FF 0D ........D....... 0020 06 06 06 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ..........~~~~~~ 0030 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ~~~~~~~~~~~~ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame 12 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUMMARY Delta T Destination Source Summary 12 8.9685 0.255 65280.13 DLC 802.3 size=28 bytes LLC C D=AA S=AA UI SNAP ID=Apple Type=809B (AppleTalk) DDP D=0.255 S=65280.13 Type=6 (Zone) ZIP C GetNetInfo DLC: ----- DLC Header ----- DLC: DLC: Frame 12 arrived at 18:48:14.3158; frame size is 60 (003C hex) bytes. DLC: Destination = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: Source = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: 802.3 length = 28 DLC: LLC: ----- LLC Header ----- LLC: LLC: DSAP Address = AA, DSAP IG Bit = 00 (Individual Address) LLC: SSAP Address = AA, SSAP CR Bit = 00 (Command) LLC: Unnumbered frame: UI LLC: SNAP: ----- SNAP Header ----- SNAP: SNAP: Vendor ID = Apple SNAP: Type = 809B (AppleTalk) SNAP: DDP:----- DDP header ----- DDP: DDP: Hop count = 5 DDP: Length = 0 DDP: Checksum = 44D0 (should have been 612C) DDP: Destination Network Number = 0 DDP: Destination Node = 255 DDP: Destination Socket = 6 (Zone) DDP: Source Network Number = 65280 DDP: Source Node = 13 DDP: Source Socket = 6 (Zone) DDP: DDP protocol type = 6 (Zone) DDP: ZIP:----- ZIP header ----- ZIP: DLC: --- Frame too short ADDR HEX ASCII 0000 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 1C AA AA ...C.....C...... 0010 03 08 00 07 80 9B 14 00 44 D0 00 00 FF 00 FF 0D ........D....... 0020 06 06 06 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ..........~~~~~~ 0030 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ~~~~~~~~~~~~ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame 13 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUMMARY Delta T Destination Source Summary 13 0.5133 0.255 65280.13 DLC 802.3 size=28 bytes LLC C D=AA S=AA UI SNAP ID=Apple Type=809B (AppleTalk) DDP D=0.255 S=65280.13 Type=6 (Zone) ZIP C GetNetInfo DLC: ----- DLC Header ----- DLC: DLC: Frame 13 arrived at 18:48:14.8291; frame size is 60 (003C hex) bytes. DLC: Destination = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: Source = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: 802.3 length = 28 DLC: LLC: ----- LLC Header ----- LLC: LLC: DSAP Address = AA, DSAP IG Bit = 00 (Individual Address) LLC: SSAP Address = AA, SSAP CR Bit = 00 (Command) LLC: Unnumbered frame: UI LLC: SNAP: ----- SNAP Header ----- SNAP: SNAP: Vendor ID = Apple SNAP: Type = 809B (AppleTalk) SNAP: DDP:----- DDP header ----- DDP: DDP: Hop count = 5 DDP: Length = 0 DDP: Checksum = 44D0 (should have been D541) DDP: Destination Network Number = 0 DDP: Destination Node = 255 DDP: Destination Socket = 6 (Zone) DDP: Source Network Number = 65280 DDP: Source Node = 13 DDP: Source Socket = 6 (Zone) DDP: DDP protocol type = 6 (Zone) DDP: ZIP:----- ZIP header ----- ZIP: DLC: --- Frame too short ADDR HEX ASCII 0000 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 1C AA AA ...C.....C...... 0010 03 08 00 07 80 9B 14 00 44 D0 00 00 FF 00 FF 0D ........D....... 0020 06 06 06 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ..........~~~~~~ 0030 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ~~~~~~~~~~~~ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame 14 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUMMARY Delta T Destination Source Summary 14 0.0006 0.255 65280.13 DLC 802.3 size=28 bytes LLC C D=AA S=AA UI SNAP ID=Apple Type=809B (AppleTalk) DDP D=0.255 S=65280.13 Type=6 (Zone) ZIP C GetNetInfo DLC: ----- DLC Header ----- DLC: DLC: Frame 14 arrived at 18:48:14.8297; frame size is 60 (003C hex) bytes. DLC: Destination = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: Source = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: 802.3 length = 28 DLC: LLC: ----- LLC Header ----- LLC: LLC: DSAP Address = AA, DSAP IG Bit = 00 (Individual Address) LLC: SSAP Address = AA, SSAP CR Bit = 00 (Command) LLC: Unnumbered frame: UI LLC: SNAP: ----- SNAP Header ----- SNAP: SNAP: Vendor ID = Apple SNAP: Type = 809B (AppleTalk) SNAP: DDP:----- DDP header ----- DDP: DDP: Hop count = 5 DDP: Length = 0 DDP: Checksum = 44D0 (should have been 43F6) DDP: Destination Network Number = 0 DDP: Destination Node = 255 DDP: Destination Socket = 6 (Zone) DDP: Source Network Number = 65280 DDP: Source Node = 13 DDP: Source Socket = 6 (Zone) DDP: DDP protocol type = 6 (Zone) DDP: ZIP:----- ZIP header ----- ZIP: DLC: --- Frame too short ADDR HEX ASCII 0000 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 1C AA AA ...C.....C...... 0010 03 08 00 07 80 9B 14 00 44 D0 00 00 FF 00 FF 0D ........D....... 0020 06 06 06 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ..........~~~~~~ 0030 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ~~~~~~~~~~~~ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame 15 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUMMARY Delta T Destination Source Summary 15 0.0015 0.255 65280.13 DLC 802.3 size=28 bytes LLC C D=AA S=AA UI SNAP ID=Apple Type=809B (AppleTalk) DDP D=0.255 S=65280.13 Type=6 (Zone) ZIP C GetNetInfo DLC: ----- DLC Header ----- DLC: DLC: Frame 15 arrived at 18:48:14.8312; frame size is 60 (003C hex) bytes. DLC: Destination = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: Source = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: 802.3 length = 28 DLC: LLC: ----- LLC Header ----- LLC: LLC: DSAP Address = AA, DSAP IG Bit = 00 (Individual Address) LLC: SSAP Address = AA, SSAP CR Bit = 00 (Command) LLC: Unnumbered frame: UI LLC: SNAP: ----- SNAP Header ----- SNAP: SNAP: Vendor ID = Apple SNAP: Type = 809B (AppleTalk) SNAP: DDP:----- DDP header ----- DDP: DDP: Hop count = 5 DDP: Length = 0 DDP: Checksum = 44D0 (should have been E8C5) DDP: Destination Network Number = 0 DDP: Destination Node = 255 DDP: Destination Socket = 6 (Zone) DDP: Source Network Number = 65280 DDP: Source Node = 13 DDP: Source Socket = 6 (Zone) DDP: DDP protocol type = 6 (Zone) DDP: ZIP:----- ZIP header ----- ZIP: DLC: --- Frame too short ADDR HEX ASCII 0000 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 1C AA AA ...C.....C...... 0010 03 08 00 07 80 9B 14 00 44 D0 00 00 FF 00 FF 0D ........D....... 0020 06 06 06 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ..........~~~~~~ 0030 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ~~~~~~~~~~~~ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame 16 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUMMARY Delta T Destination Source Summary 16 0.0006 0.255 65280.13 DLC 802.3 size=28 bytes LLC C D=AA S=AA UI SNAP ID=Apple Type=809B (AppleTalk) DDP D=0.255 S=65280.13 Type=6 (Zone) ZIP C GetNetInfo DLC: ----- DLC Header ----- DLC: DLC: Frame 16 arrived at 18:48:14.8318; frame size is 60 (003C hex) bytes. DLC: Destination = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: Source = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: 802.3 length = 28 DLC: LLC: ----- LLC Header ----- LLC: LLC: DSAP Address = AA, DSAP IG Bit = 00 (Individual Address) LLC: SSAP Address = AA, SSAP CR Bit = 00 (Command) LLC: Unnumbered frame: UI LLC: SNAP: ----- SNAP Header ----- SNAP: SNAP: Vendor ID = Apple SNAP: Type = 809B (AppleTalk) SNAP: DDP:----- DDP header ----- DDP: DDP: Hop count = 5 DDP: Length = 0 DDP: Checksum = 44D0 (should have been A3A0) DDP: Destination Network Number = 0 DDP: Destination Node = 255 DDP: Destination Socket = 6 (Zone) DDP: Source Network Number = 65280 DDP: Source Node = 13 DDP: Source Socket = 6 (Zone) DDP: DDP protocol type = 6 (Zone) DDP: ZIP:----- ZIP header ----- ZIP: DLC: --- Frame too short ADDR HEX ASCII 0000 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 1C AA AA ...C.....C...... 0010 03 08 00 07 80 9B 14 00 44 D0 00 00 FF 00 FF 0D ........D....... 0020 06 06 06 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ..........~~~~~~ 0030 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ~~~~~~~~~~~~ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame 17 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUMMARY Delta T Destination Source Summary 17 9.4841 0.255 65280.13 DLC 802.3 size=28 bytes LLC C D=AA S=AA UI SNAP ID=Apple Type=809B (AppleTalk) DDP D=0.255 S=65280.13 Type=6 (Zone) ZIP C GetNetInfo DLC: ----- DLC Header ----- DLC: DLC: Frame 17 arrived at 18:48:24.3158; frame size is 60 (003C hex) bytes. DLC: Destination = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: Source = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: 802.3 length = 28 DLC: LLC: ----- LLC Header ----- LLC: LLC: DSAP Address = AA, DSAP IG Bit = 00 (Individual Address) LLC: SSAP Address = AA, SSAP CR Bit = 00 (Command) LLC: Unnumbered frame: UI LLC: SNAP: ----- SNAP Header ----- SNAP: SNAP: Vendor ID = Apple SNAP: Type = 809B (AppleTalk) SNAP: DDP:----- DDP header ----- DDP: DDP: Hop count = 5 DDP: Length = 0 DDP: Checksum = 44D0 (should have been BFB4) DDP: Destination Network Number = 0 DDP: Destination Node = 255 DDP: Destination Socket = 6 (Zone) DDP: Source Network Number = 65280 DDP: Source Node = 13 DDP: Source Socket = 6 (Zone) DDP: DDP protocol type = 6 (Zone) DDP: ZIP:----- ZIP header ----- ZIP: DLC: --- Frame too short ADDR HEX ASCII 0000 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 1C AA AA ...C.....C...... 0010 03 08 00 07 80 9B 14 00 44 D0 00 00 FF 00 FF 0D ........D....... 0020 06 06 06 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ..........~~~~~~ 0030 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ~~~~~~~~~~~~ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame 18 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUMMARY Delta T Destination Source Summary 18 0.5171 0.255 65280.13 DLC 802.3 size=28 bytes LLC C D=AA S=AA UI SNAP ID=Apple Type=809B (AppleTalk) DDP D=0.255 S=65280.13 Type=6 (Zone) ZIP C GetNetInfo DLC: ----- DLC Header ----- DLC: DLC: Frame 18 arrived at 18:48:24.8330; frame size is 60 (003C hex) bytes. DLC: Destination = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: Source = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: 802.3 length = 28 DLC: LLC: ----- LLC Header ----- LLC: LLC: DSAP Address = AA, DSAP IG Bit = 00 (Individual Address) LLC: SSAP Address = AA, SSAP CR Bit = 00 (Command) LLC: Unnumbered frame: UI LLC: SNAP: ----- SNAP Header ----- SNAP: SNAP: Vendor ID = Apple SNAP: Type = 809B (AppleTalk) SNAP: DDP:----- DDP header ----- DDP: DDP: Hop count = 5 DDP: Length = 0 DDP: Checksum = 44D0 (should have been 75C0) DDP: Destination Network Number = 0 DDP: Destination Node = 255 DDP: Destination Socket = 6 (Zone) DDP: Source Network Number = 65280 DDP: Source Node = 13 DDP: Source Socket = 6 (Zone) DDP: DDP protocol type = 6 (Zone) DDP: ZIP:----- ZIP header ----- ZIP: DLC: --- Frame too short ADDR HEX ASCII 0000 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 1C AA AA ...C.....C...... 0010 03 08 00 07 80 9B 14 00 44 D0 00 00 FF 00 FF 0D ........D....... 0020 06 06 06 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ..........~~~~~~ 0030 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ~~~~~~~~~~~~ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame 19 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUMMARY Delta T Destination Source Summary 19 0.0016 0.255 65280.13 DLC 802.3 size=28 bytes LLC C D=AA S=AA UI SNAP ID=Apple Type=809B (AppleTalk) DDP D=0.255 S=65280.13 Type=6 (Zone) ZIP C GetNetInfo DLC: ----- DLC Header ----- DLC: DLC: Frame 19 arrived at 18:48:24.8345; frame size is 60 (003C hex) bytes. DLC: Destination = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: Source = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: 802.3 length = 28 DLC: LLC: ----- LLC Header ----- LLC: LLC: DSAP Address = AA, DSAP IG Bit = 00 (Individual Address) LLC: SSAP Address = AA, SSAP CR Bit = 00 (Command) LLC: Unnumbered frame: UI LLC: SNAP: ----- SNAP Header ----- SNAP: SNAP: Vendor ID = Apple SNAP: Type = 809B (AppleTalk) SNAP: DDP:----- DDP header ----- DDP: DDP: Hop count = 5 DDP: Length = 0 DDP: Checksum = 44D0 (should have been C027) DDP: Destination Network Number = 0 DDP: Destination Node = 255 DDP: Destination Socket = 6 (Zone) DDP: Source Network Number = 65280 DDP: Source Node = 13 DDP: Source Socket = 6 (Zone) DDP: DDP protocol type = 6 (Zone) DDP: ZIP:----- ZIP header ----- ZIP: DLC: --- Frame too short ADDR HEX ASCII 0000 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 1C AA AA ...C.....C...... 0010 03 08 00 07 80 9B 14 00 44 D0 00 00 FF 00 FF 0D ........D....... 0020 06 06 06 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ..........~~~~~~ 0030 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ~~~~~~~~~~~~ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame 20 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUMMARY Delta T Destination Source Summary 20 0.0007 0.255 65280.13 DLC 802.3 size=28 bytes LLC C D=AA S=AA UI SNAP ID=Apple Type=809B (AppleTalk) DDP D=0.255 S=65280.13 Type=6 (Zone) ZIP C GetNetInfo DLC: ----- DLC Header ----- DLC: DLC: Frame 20 arrived at 18:48:24.8352; frame size is 60 (003C hex) bytes. DLC: Destination = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: Source = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: 802.3 length = 28 DLC: LLC: ----- LLC Header ----- LLC: LLC: DSAP Address = AA, DSAP IG Bit = 00 (Individual Address) LLC: SSAP Address = AA, SSAP CR Bit = 00 (Command) LLC: Unnumbered frame: UI LLC: SNAP: ----- SNAP Header ----- SNAP: SNAP: Vendor ID = Apple SNAP: Type = 809B (AppleTalk) SNAP: DDP:----- DDP header ----- DDP: DDP: Hop count = 5 DDP: Length = 0 DDP: Checksum = 44D0 (should have been BE39) DDP: Destination Network Number = 0 DDP: Destination Node = 255 DDP: Destination Socket = 6 (Zone) DDP: Source Network Number = 65280 DDP: Source Node = 13 DDP: Source Socket = 6 (Zone) DDP: DDP protocol type = 6 (Zone) DDP: ZIP:----- ZIP header ----- ZIP: DLC: --- Frame too short ADDR HEX ASCII 0000 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 1C AA AA ...C.....C...... 0010 03 08 00 07 80 9B 14 00 44 D0 00 00 FF 00 FF 0D ........D....... 0020 06 06 06 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ..........~~~~~~ 0030 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ~~~~~~~~~~~~ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Frame 21 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SUMMARY Delta T Destination Source Summary 21 0.0014 0.255 65280.13 DLC 802.3 size=28 bytes LLC C D=AA S=AA UI SNAP ID=Apple Type=809B (AppleTalk) DDP D=0.255 S=65280.13 Type=6 (Zone) ZIP C GetNetInfo DLC: ----- DLC Header ----- DLC: DLC: Frame 21 arrived at 18:48:24.8366; frame size is 60 (003C hex) bytes. DLC: Destination = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: Source = Station 00A0C943A70B DLC: 802.3 length = 28 DLC: LLC: ----- LLC Header ----- LLC: LLC: DSAP Address = AA, DSAP IG Bit = 00 (Individual Address) LLC: SSAP Address = AA, SSAP CR Bit = 00 (Command) LLC: Unnumbered frame: UI LLC: SNAP: ----- SNAP Header ----- SNAP: SNAP: Vendor ID = Apple SNAP: Type = 809B (AppleTalk) SNAP: DDP:----- DDP header ----- DDP: DDP: Hop count = 5 DDP: Length = 0 DDP: Checksum = 44D0 (should have been 3D87) DDP: Destination Network Number = 0 DDP: Destination Node = 255 DDP: Destination Socket = 6 (Zone) DDP: Source Network Number = 65280 DDP: Source Node = 13 DDP: Source Socket = 6 (Zone) DDP: DDP protocol type = 6 (Zone) DDP: ZIP:----- ZIP header ----- ZIP: DLC: --- Frame too short ADDR HEX ASCII 0000 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 A0 C9 43 A7 0B 00 1C AA AA ...C.....C...... 0010 03 08 00 07 80 9B 14 00 44 D0 00 00 FF 00 FF 0D ........D....... 0020 06 06 06 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ..........~~~~~~ 0030 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E 7E ~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 03:35:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id DAA16273 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 03:35:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA16268 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 03:35:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id DAA11542; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 03:36:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id DAA11540 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 03:36:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from colossus.cs.wits.ac.za ([146.141.26.202] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA11535 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 03:36:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jon@localhost) by colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00305 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:47:30 +0200 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:47:30 +0200 (SAT) From: John Ostrowick To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] 8.1 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu anyone here tried to see what happens to netatalk when it talks to os8.1 with its hfs+ ? eg., file name length...? ____________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick jon@cs.wits.ac.za, +27 11 716-3783 Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand Web site, ftp site and listserv all available at: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 06:52:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA05153 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 06:52:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA05145 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 06:52:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA25017; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 06:52:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA25015 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 06:52:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from listbox2.cern.ch (listbox2.cern.ch [137.138.24.200]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA25005 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 06:52:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from sunadm.cern.ch (sunadm.cern.ch [137.138.32.92]) by listbox2.cern.ch (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11190; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:52:04 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (reguero@localhost) by sunadm.cern.ch (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA10147; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:52:04 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: sunadm.cern.ch: reguero owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:52:04 +0100 (MET) From: Ignacio REGUERO X-Sender: reguero@sunadm Reply-To: Ignacio REGUERO To: Netatalk cc: Macnet Macnet /IT Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] PCDISIR ATalk (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello again, I found the set of patches from Adrian Sun that do change the zip code. I have installed them and this solves nicely the GetNetInfo problem. On this version 1.4b2+asun2.0a18.1 my ethernet interface is getting stuck quite often with the sort of messages that follow: Jan 21 11:18:09 pcdisir kernel: eth0: Transmit timed out: status 0050 command 0000. Jan 21 11:18:09 pcdisir kernel: eth0: Tx timeout fill index 7564 scavenge index 7548. Jan 21 11:18:09 pcdisir kernel: Tx queue 0000a000 000ca000 000ca000 000ca000 000ca000 000ca000 000ca000 000ca000 000ca000 0000a000 0000a000 400ca000 00000000 0000a000 0000a000 0000a000. Jan 21 11:18:09 pcdisir kernel: Rx ring 00000003 00000003 00000003 00000003 00000003 00000003 00000003 00000003 00000003 00000003 00000003 00000003 00000003 00000003 00000003 c0000003. Jan 21 11:18:09 pcdisir kernel: eth0: Trying to restart the transmitter... Am I still missing something? Thank you ...Ignacio... Ignacio Reguero: ignacio.reguero@cern.ch CERN, European Laboratory for Particle Physics, IT Division, CH-1211 Geneva 23. Switzerland. On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Ignacio REGUERO wrote: > Hello, > I installed netatalk 1.4b2 on a PC running Linux 2.0.27 (RedHat 4.1) in > order to make a print server. > As the machine was acquiring a wrong appletalk network number + address > the local appletalk expert has traced the startup sequence to conclude > that we are sending wrong ZIP GetNetInfo packets. > > Is this a known problem? > Am I doing something wrong? > Would anybody have a solution? > > Thank you ...Ignacio... > > Ignacio Reguero: ignacio.reguero@cern.ch > CERN, European Laboratory for Particle Physics, > IT Division, CH-1211 Geneva 23. Switzerland. > From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 06:56:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA05374 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 06:56:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA05363 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 06:56:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA25530; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 06:55:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA25524 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 06:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from galaxy.chez.com ([194.98.133.161]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA25477 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 06:55:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (Pop-Toulouse-107.easynet.fr [195.114.94.107]) by galaxy.chez.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07463 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:54:25 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199801211154.MAA07463@galaxy.chez.com> From: "Thierry" To: "netatalk" Subject: [netatalk-admins] User name Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:09:29 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, When I try to connect from my macintosh to Linux (2.0) via netatalk (last release) the linux kernel says : linux kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address c0000000 linux kernel: current->tss.cr3 = 00101000, Lr3 = 00101000 linux kernel: *pde = 00102067 linux kernel: *pte = 00000027 linux kernel: Oops: 0000 linux kernel: CPU: 0 linux kernel: EIP: 0010:[<00000000>] linux kernel: EFLAGS: 00010046 linux kernel: eax: 00000000 ebx: 03b1a018 ecx: 00000006 edx: 00094c28 linux kernel: esi: 00094c28 edi: 00000000 ebp: 0481ce08 esp: 001da834 linux kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 fs: 002b gs: 0018 ss: 0018 linux kernel: Process swapper (pid: 0, process nr: 0, stackpage=001d8a2c) linux kernel: Stack: 00138ee8 03b1a018 03cee400 0000003e 00000040 0013933c 00094c28 00000000 linux kernel: 03cee418 0481934f 00094c28 00000000 00000001 00094c28 0481cea0 0481ce08 linux kernel: 00094be8 0030480a 00094be8 0013ce36 0000003e 00006100 00139cfd 00094c28 linux kernel: Call Trace: [kfree_skb+216/240] [dev_kfree_skb+60/72] [<0481934f>] [<0481cea0>] [<0481ce08>] [p8022_datalink_header+98/104] [do_dev_queue_xmit+377/428] linux kernel: [<0481ce08>] [<048263f0>] [dev_queue_xmit+23/36] [<0481ce08>] [<048239ea>] [<0481ce08>] [<048263f0>] [<04823bf9>] linux kernel: [<048263f0>] [<0481ce08>] [<048263f0>] [snap_rcv+79/108] [<0481ce08>] [p8022_rcv+63/92] [<0481ce08>] [net_bh+244/276] linux kernel: [<0481ce08>] [do_bottom_half+59/96] [handle_bottom_half+11/32] [sys_idle+92/112] [system_call+85/128] [init+0/900] [get_cpuinfo+276/428] [start_kernel+453/464] linux kernel: Code: 01 00 00 00 6f ef 00 f0 c3 e2 00 f0 6f ef 00 f0 6f ef 00 f0 linux kernel: Aiee, killing interrupt handler linux kernel: kfree of non-kmalloced memory: 001daa74, next= 00000000, order=0 linux kernel: kfree of non-kmalloced memory: 001daa64, next= 00000000, order=0 linux kernel: kfree of non-kmalloced memory: 001daf78, next= 00000000, order=0 linux kernel: idle task may not sleep linux last message repeated 4 times linux kerneld: error: exit: Identifier removed linux kerneld: error: exit: Identifier removed And when I type a user name and a password in the chooser : Invalid password. Every configuration files seems OK and I can use the login on the linux server. Any idea ? Thierry td@chez.com From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 07:32:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA06925 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 07:32:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA06920 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 07:32:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA29534; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 07:32:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA29531 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 07:32:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from wien.FH-Trier.de (dns.fh-trier.de [143.93.54.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA29525 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 07:32:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from sunserver (SunServer.fh-trier.de [143.93.53.30]) by wien.FH-Trier.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA23672 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:32:42 +0100 Received: from chopin.fh-trier.de by sunserver (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA03758; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:32:39 +0100 Received: by chopin.fh-trier.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA07419; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:31:18 +0100 From: martin@informatik.fh-trier.de (Martin Greving) Message-Id: <199801211231.NAA07419@chopin.fh-trier.de> Subject: [netatalk-admins] How to disable routing in 1.4b2 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:31:17 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all, sorry if this question was already send to the list, but I have not found any hint in the archives. I want to set up a linux box to act as an Appletalk fileserver in 3 subnets. So I have added 3 network cards and everything seems to be ok. Due to security issues I do not want to see other machines in the chooser than the local ones. My Question: Is it possible to disable routing in 1.4b2? I know there is a solution in 1.3.3, but I don't know how to apply this patch to the new version. Thanks in advance Martin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Greving, Assistent, greving@informatik.fh-trier.de Fachbereich Angewandte Informatik, FH Trier, Germany Tel.: 49+0651 8103 374 Fax.: 49+0651 8103 454 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 07:46:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA07467 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 07:46:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA07459 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 07:46:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA02090; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 07:46:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA02087 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 07:46:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from lundaforum.se (lundaforum-gw.ideon.se [193.45.79.26]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA02082 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 07:46:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from pt.lundaforum.se (pt.lundaforum.se [194.17.249.5]) by lundaforum.se (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id OAA26762 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 14:35:50 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980121134900.0072ce14@lundaforum.se> X-Sender: pb@lundaforum.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:49:00 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Peter Bolmehag Subject: [netatalk-admins] denying access Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! I have netatalk running. When someone gets an account they automatically are able to log in to the machine via netatalk. I want to be able to shut out certain users. How? Peter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Bolmehag LundaForum AB Tel: 046-182513 Mobil: 0708-373409 Epost: Peter.Bolmehag@lundaforum.se From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 08:04:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA08294 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:04:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA08277 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:04:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA17596; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:05:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA17594 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:05:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA17590 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:05:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17320; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:04:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from cec.mtu.edu (root@cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.196]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24190; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:04:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from critter.cec.mtu.edu (critter.cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.204]) by cec.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/mtumailer-1.2) with SMTP id IAA18214; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:04:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:04:55 -0500 (EST) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@critter.cec.mtu.edu To: Peter Bolmehag cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] denying access In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980121134900.0072ce14@lundaforum.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Peter Bolmehag wrote: > I have netatalk running. When someone gets an account they automatically > are able to log in to the machine via netatalk. I want to be able to shut > out certain users. How? Oooh, this might be tricky. You should be able to disable netatalk logins by setting their shell to something not specified in /etc/shells--or whatever getusershell() on your machine looks in. But that will probably be they can't login via telnet either. If you want to disallow logins from the Mac side and the unix side, easy. If you want to allow unix logins but not allow Mac connections... Hmmm. I don't know if you can do that. It wouldn't be too difficult to add another check in auth.c to kick out certain users, but I don't know what the critieria would be so I don't have a solution in mind. In other news, I've made a few updates to my baby-FAQ for netatalk on Solaris 2. It's not a tremendous amount of research, but I think it's becoming a good pointer for new Solaris users. That's primarily what I would like it to become. - edan -- Edan Idzerda System Administrator -- Michigan Technological University, Houghton MI USA From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 08:36:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA10093 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:36:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA10089 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:36:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA15924; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:36:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA15911 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:36:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from dedalus.eats.com (server.eats.com [199.73.33.99]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA15889 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:36:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (rob@localhost) by dedalus.eats.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA00490; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:39:02 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:39:02 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Newberry To: John Ostrowick cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 8.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > anyone here tried to see what happens to netatalk when it talks to os8.1 > with its hfs+ ? eg., file name length...? Although HFS+ does SUPPORT long file names (255 chars) in the filesystem, the MacOS itself does NOT support this feature yet. So currently, there is no way to get/set a filename longer than 31 chars using the MacOS. Since no other OS reads/writes HFS+ volumes at this point, well, you can probably see where I'm going with this. Apple has said that Rhapsody will support HFS+, and Rhapsody already supports 255-character filenames, so when that happens, we will see. Apple has also said that support for the long file name feature of HFS+ will be in future MacOS releases. At the earliest, that would be Allegro, which is scheduled for mid year. Keep in mind, however, that the changes will require changes in applications as well -- the current APIs use pascal strings (i.e., length byte at beginning), which limit you to 255-char full PATH names (i.e., not just filenames); and most MacOS programs use FSSpec records, which only have 63-characters of space for filenames. Clearly Apple will need to deliver a name-mangler similar to Microsoft's Win95/NT support for FAT volumes. My bet is, however, that long file names on AFP volumes will require an updated version of AFP because the current AFP network requests probably don't have room for long file names, either. That probably wouldn't be very hard to add to netatalk, but until it happens, Macs (even if they DO support long file names) will continue to get their short names. (I think that's the case -- a developer can correct me if I'm plain wrong -- I haven't looked at the code in a while.) So, the short answer is, for all practical purposes, HFS+ doesn't do anything for long file names yet, because the OS doesn't support the feature in the filesystem yet. And therefore, there is no impact whatsoever on AFP network volumes. Rob From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 08:45:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA10624 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:45:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA10611 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:45:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA29238; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:46:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA29206 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:46:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (colossus.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.202]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA29143 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:46:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from [146.141.26.200] (macenroe1.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.200]) by colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA01431; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:48:18 +0200 X-Sender: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:46:54 +0200 To: Rob Newberry From: jon@cs.wits.ac.za (John Ostrowick) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 8.1 Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >> anyone here tried to see what happens to netatalk when it talks to os8.1 >> with its hfs+ ? eg., file name length...? > >Although HFS+ does SUPPORT long file names (255 chars) in the filesystem, >the MacOS itself does NOT support this feature yet. So currently, there >is no way to get/set a filename longer than 31 chars using the MacOS. >Since no other OS reads/writes HFS+ volumes at this point, well, you can >probably see where I'm going with this. umm, surely the new finder will let you type out 255 character names? >My bet is, however, that long file names on AFP volumes will require an >updated version of AFP because the current AFP network requests probably >don't have room for long file names, either. That probably wouldn't be >very hard to add to netatalk, but until it happens, Macs (even if they DO >support long file names) will continue to get their short names. > >(I think that's the case -- a developer can correct me if I'm plain wrong >-- I haven't looked at the code in a while.) true. (i write lab software for the mac, so i know what you mean about the 255 pascal strings, 63 chars in a fsspec, etc). ____________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick jon@cs.wits.ac.za, +27 11 716-3783 Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand Web site, ftp site and listserv all available at: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 09:35:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA12425 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:35:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA12418 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:34:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA10975; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:34:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA10940 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:34:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from opengate.opentext.com (opengate.opentext.com [204.138.115.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA10927 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:34:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by opengate.opentext.com (8.7.6-opentext/opengate-970407a) id JAA07329; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:34:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.opentext.com (172.21.0.15) by opengate.opentext.com via smap (V1.3) id sma007324; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:34:44 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by mercury.opentext.com (8.7.6-opentext/mercury-970417a) id JAA01599; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:34:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from sidv.opentext.com (172.21.7.7) by mercury.opentext.com via smap (V1.3) id sma001594; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:34:38 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:37:06 -0500 (EST) From: Sid Van den Heede To: Edan Idzerda cc: Peter Bolmehag , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] denying access In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Edan Idzerda wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Peter Bolmehag wrote: > > I have netatalk running. When someone gets an account they automatically > > are able to log in to the machine via netatalk. I want to be able to shut > > out certain users. How? > > Oooh, this might be tricky. You should be able to disable netatalk > logins by setting their shell to something not specified in > /etc/shells--or whatever getusershell() on your machine looks > in. > > But that will probably be they can't login via telnet either. > > If you want to disallow logins from the Mac side and the unix side, > easy. If you want to allow unix logins but not allow Mac connections... > Hmmm. I don't know if you can do that. > > It wouldn't be too difficult to add another check in auth.c to > kick out certain users, but I don't know what the critieria > would be so I don't have a solution in mind. Now, if auth.c (or whatever) uses or can use Pluggable Authentication Modules (pam), then you can relatively easily add this kind of control. Pam is currently available in Linux and Solaris 2.6, so it should show up in other UNIX-like OSs Real Soon Now. The authentication module could check the source of the user (e.g., IP address or name), but maybe not much else. An alternative would be to use ipfw stuff on Linux, or the TIS firewall toolkit. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Sid Van den Heede Open Text Corporation +1 519 888 7111 x2211 185 Columbia Street West +1 519 888 0677 (fax) Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 5Z5 sidv@opentext.com From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 09:54:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA13422 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:54:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA13418 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:54:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id JAA29693; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:55:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id JAA28993 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:54:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA28887 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:53:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:52:24 +0100 Received: (from schwarz@localhost) by lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) id PAA22881; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:52:17 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199801211452.PAA22881@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 8.1 In-Reply-To: from Rob Newberry at "Jan 21, 98 08:39:02 am" To: rob@eats.com (Rob Newberry) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:52:17 +0100 (MET) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) From: Georg Schwarz Reply-To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Apple has said that Rhapsody will support HFS+, and Rhapsody already > supports 255-character filenames, so when that happens, we will see. with Rhapsody you won't need Netatalk, you'll use NFS I'd guess. --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik Tel. +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ Sekr. PN 7-1, Hardenbergstr. 36, D-10623 Berlin IRC: kuroi From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 10:10:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA14766 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:10:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA14759 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:10:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA29699; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:10:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA29688 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:10:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from dedalus.eats.com (server.eats.com [199.73.33.99]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA29548 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:10:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (rob@localhost) by dedalus.eats.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA00927; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:12:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:12:32 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Newberry To: John Ostrowick cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 8.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > umm, surely the new finder will let you type out 255 character names? nope. (and I'm not surprised, either -- it took dropping Copland and buying NeXT before we got MacOS 8, which is really not much more than a new, multi-threaded Finder. It'll take Apple a while to revise the OS to support 255-char filenames, including the Finder. They have to deal with the issue that the Finder has space for those names, but no other applications no how to deal with them, so they'll need name-mangling -- otherwise, no app could see the long names (or if they tried to open them, they'd crash). this is a big mess for Apple to deal with. don't think it'll happen too soon.) Rob From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 10:47:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA16756 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:47:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA16721 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:47:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA18083; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:46:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA18027 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:46:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA17945 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:46:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04472 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:46:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from cec.mtu.edu (root@cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.196]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27111 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:35:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from abc.cec.mtu.edu (abc.cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.218]) by cec.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/mtumailer-1.2) with SMTP id KAA19581 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:35:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:35:40 -0500 (EST) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@abc.cec.mtu.edu Reply-To: Edan Idzerda To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk on Solaris Pseudo-FAQ Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The URL of my minimalisitc FAQ for netatalk on Solaris 2 is at: http://www.cec.mtu.edu/Doc/FAQ/netatalk.html It's not comprehensive by ANY stretch of the imagination. I am interested in input anyone might have, and I am keeping my eye open for new questions and answers. My initial goal is to provide a pointer for new users and to provide a little more information for people researching netatalk as a AFP solution. I will keep updating it until it reaches a critical mass. The worst part is that I can't answer my own question, compiling in netatalk-971027/libatalk/asp on a SPARC 5 running 2.6: gcc-2.7.2.3 -p -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c asp_cmdreply.c In file included from asp_cmdreply.c:31: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/stdio.h:264: parse error before `__gnuc_va_list' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/stdio.h:265: parse error before `__gnuc_va_list' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/stdio.h:268: parse error before `__gnuc_va_list' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/stdio.h:270: parse error before `__gnuc_va_list' gmake[3]: *** [asp_cmdreply.o] Error 1 Damn! I used fixinc.svr4 patch, too! I'm a little bit stumped. Grr. - edan -- Edan Idzerda System Administrator -- Michigan Technological University, Houghton MI USA From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 12:16:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA21479 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:16:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA21471 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:16:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA21387; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:17:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA21294 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:17:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at (germ2.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA21237 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:17:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from buster.retti.at (internet@pc1-c608.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.17]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.7/8.8.6 (l 2)) with ESMTP id SAA14767; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:16:02 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (m610.retti.at [192.168.0.13]) by buster.retti.at (8.8.3/8.8.3 (GR v 1.1)) with ESMTP id PAA12773; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:43:51 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:43:51 +0100 X-Sender: gregor@mail.retti.at Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980121134900.0072ce14@lundaforum.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Peter Bolmehag , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Gregor Retti Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] denying access Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 13:49 Uhr +0100 21.01.1998, Peter Bolmehag wrote: >Hi! > > >I have netatalk running. When someone gets an account they automatically >are able to log in to the machine via netatalk. I want to be able to shut >out certain users. How? > > there is a restcrition on password length for AFPservers (at least for MacOS < 8) of 8 chars. so if you force the UNIX-only users to have longer passwords, they wont be able to log in via appletalk (not very smooth but might be a workaround). regards gregor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ----------- http://germanistik.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 12:55:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA22625 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:55:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA22621 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:54:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA12088; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:56:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA12004 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:55:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.advancenet.net ([205.198.248.82] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA11955 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:55:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.argus-systems.com (ranger.argus-systems.com [206.221.232.80]) by mail.advancenet.net (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA12110; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:56:00 -0600 Received: from localhost by mail.argus-systems.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA11400; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:52:58 -0600 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:52:58 -0600 From: Andrew McNabb To: Gregor Retti cc: Peter Bolmehag , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] denying access In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Gregor Retti wrote: > > there is a restcrition on password length for AFPservers (at least for > MacOS < 8) of 8 chars. so if you force the UNIX-only users to have longer > passwords, they wont be able to log in via appletalk (not very smooth but > might be a workaround). > The same restriction applies to all of the UNIX machines that I have ever used. ---------------------------------------------- Andrew McNabb Argus Systems Group amcnabb@argus-systems.com ---------------------------------------------- I am an International Arms Trafficker!!!!! http://online.offshore.com.ai/arms-trafficker/ ---------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 13:31:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA24222 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:31:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA24213 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:31:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA28480; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:32:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA28464 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:32:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA28434 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:32:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25543; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:30:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from cec.mtu.edu (root@cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.196]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16965; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:22:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from critter.cec.mtu.edu (critter.cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.204]) by cec.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/mtumailer-1.2) with SMTP id NAA20041; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:22:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:22:40 -0500 (EST) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@critter.cec.mtu.edu To: Andrew McNabb cc: Gregor Retti , Peter Bolmehag , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] denying access In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Andrew McNabb wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Gregor Retti wrote: > > there is a restcrition on password length for AFPservers (at least for > > MacOS < 8) of 8 chars. so if you force the UNIX-only users to have longer > > passwords, they wont be able to log in via appletalk (not very smooth but > > might be a workaround). > > > > The same restriction applies to all of the UNIX machines that I have ever > used. The Unix machine will simply truncate the password at 8 characters. It won't deny access or complain. At least, that is the case with all of the Unix machines I use on a regular basis. - edan From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 15:18:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA00232 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:18:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA00223 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:18:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA26041 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 14:21:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA08603; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 14:21:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA08437 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 14:21:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from argonaut.w3-design.com (argonaut.w3-design.com [209.85.7.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA08239 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 14:20:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from w3-design.com (jeff@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA08209 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:21:33 -0800 Message-ID: <34C64ABC.B167F6A6@w3-design.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:21:32 +0000 From: Jeff Wiegley Organization: W3-design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Anybody successfully using the SMC9432 cards with the latest netatalk? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu subject pretty much says it all. The 3Com 10/100 drivers are pretty unstable by most reports and so I'm using SMC cards which reportedly have excellent drivers. Except the tulip based etherpower 10/100 (SMC9332?) driver doesn't work 100% with netatalk (even with all the multicast options). So I've been using the de4x5 driver instead which seems to work fine. But now I've got the opportunity to put together another machine and I was wondering the if the device driver for the Epic based SMC9432TX works 100% with netatalk. Anybody using the SMC9432 with netatalk? any opinions or advice would be appreciated. - Jeff From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 17:21:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA11998 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:21:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA11992 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:21:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA13260; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:21:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA13219 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:21:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA12890 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:20:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11442; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 14:11:48 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA04834; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 14:19:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 14:19:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199801212219.OAA04834@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: rob@eats.com CC: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from Rob Newberry on Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:39:02 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 8.1 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu My bet is, however, that long file names on AFP volumes will require an updated version of AFP because the current AFP network requests probably don't have room for long file names, either. That probably wouldn't be very hard to add to netatalk, but until it happens, Macs (even if they DO support long file names) will continue to get their short names. there are only a handleful of places in the netatalk code that actually check against 31 character names. the length of the name actually gets encoded in each filename, so it shouldn't be difficult to modify things to work for arbitrary filename lengths. netatalk really just needs two things to deal with an as-yet-unreleased really-long-filename-aware finder: 1) unicode support 2) beefed up path type support. the way netatalk is designed, #1 just entails rethinking the utom and mtou functions a little with unicode tables. don't the samba patches do that? we might have to think about wide character support a little as i think only the newer os's have c libraries with that kind of support. the easiest way of doing #2 would be to use the path type in cnames as a means of just restricting file name length and not worry about converting between different lengths. i.e., a path type of 1 allows access to only 12-character filenames, 2 allows access to 31-character filenames, and whatever gets decided for 255-character filenames (i'm guessing a path type of 3) allows access to those. currently, netatalk only allows a path type of 2, making the windows weenies unhappy. the cost of doing this, of course, is slightly slower directory lookups due to the need to check filename lengths. the ugly and difficult way of doing this would be to map files between each of the three filename length spaces. i actually don't think that's worth the pain it would entail. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 17:27:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA12467 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:27:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA12440 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:27:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA06034; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:28:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA17175 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:58:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.finan.com (www.finan.com [209.96.27.162]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA17064 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:58:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from [209.96.27.174] (bill.finan.com [209.96.27.174]) by www.finan.com (8.8.7/8.8.5/finan1.1) with ESMTP id OAA27010 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 14:57:24 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 14:54:37 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Bill Stewart-Cole Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] denying access Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 11:52 AM -0600 1/21/98, Andrew McNabb wrote: >On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Gregor Retti wrote: > >> >> there is a restcrition on password length for AFPservers (at least for >> MacOS < 8) of 8 chars. so if you force the UNIX-only users to have longer >> passwords, they wont be able to log in via appletalk (not very smooth but >> might be a workaround). >> > >The same restriction applies to all of the UNIX machines that I have ever >used. Maybe so, but it does not apply to all Unix machines. Linux, Digital Unix, and Ultrix definitely have packages available for longer passwords, and I am fairly certain that FreeBSD does as well. Any authentication system that can hand off to Radius has access to 16-character passwords as well. ---- Bill Stewart-Cole This space for rent. Inquire within. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 18:03:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA15095 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:03:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA15087 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:03:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA02161; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:03:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA02140 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:03:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mojo.calyx.net (mojo.calyx.net [208.132.136.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id SAA01938 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:02:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19499 invoked by uid 1033); 21 Jan 1998 23:02:57 -0000 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:02:57 -0500 (EST) From: Juan Fernando To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] 8.1 Long Filenames Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu 8.1 removes the necessity of the appearance extension and replaces that with the Text Encoding Converter extension. It uses Unicode internally for file names, that's how it supports longer file names. The OS itself doesn't support unicode directly, hence the necessary extension. It'll eventually be phased into the system. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 18:11:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA15778 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:11:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA15768 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:11:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA05824; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:11:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA05740 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:11:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.camelot.de (mail.camelot.de [195.30.224.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA05675 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:11:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (1282 bytes) by mail.camelot.de via rmail with P:stdio/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 00:11:11 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.98 1997-Oct-16 #2 built 1997-Dec-4) Received: (from news@localhost) by hannibal.camelot.de (8.8.5/8.7.3) id WAA01740; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:20:40 +0100 (MET) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Path: not-for-mail From: Oliver Scheel Newsgroups: lists.netatalk.admins Subject: [netatalk-admins] Printing via Ghostscript Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:20:40 +0100 Organization: Hannibal Online Lines: 20 Message-ID: <34C666A8.C881F01A@camelot.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: hannibal.camelot.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE i386) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I want to print from my Mac via Netatalk 1.4b2 (os8 fixed) via Ghostscript to my Stylus Color 600 connected to my FreeBSD 2.2.2 box. On the Mac I selected the LaserWriter Color 16/600. With some programs it work (BBEdit Lite, Claris Works), with other not (e.g. Acrobat Reader). Ghostscript generates error stuff. Furthermore when I try to print landscape ghostscript doesnt recognize it. I think I need another PPD file and/or have to reconfigure ghostscript. Any hints? Many thanks. Oliver -- http://www.camelot.de/~os/ best things in life are free From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 18:32:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA16701 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:32:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA16697 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:32:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA15591; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA15587 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:32:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from nic.the.net (nic.the.net [146.6.62.1]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA15583 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:32:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from bubba.ots.utexas.edu ("port 2085"@bubba.ots.utexas.edu) by nic.the.net (PMDF V5.1-9 #26857) with SMTP id <01ISNAQWE6CU0009DV@nic.the.net> for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:32:38 CST Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:32:38 -0600 From: "Donald L. Nash" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 8.1 Long Filenames To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Message-id: <778100.3094392758@bubba.ots.utexas.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mulberry (MacOS) [1.4.0a1, s/n U-300790] Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --On Wed, Jan 21, 1998 6:02 PM -0500 "Juan Fernando" wrote: > It uses Unicode internally for file names, that's how it supports longer > file names. Uh, no. HFS+ uses Unicode internally to support a richer character set for file names. Longer file names are supported by allowing file names to occupy more space (256 2-byte Unicode characters). Longer file names could have been supported just as easily by keeping the current 1-byte extended ASCII character set and allowing for 256 of those characters instead of 256 Unicode characters. I suppose that Apple chose Unicode because they decided that it makes more sense to use a modern character set. ++Don Nash Internet: D.Nash@utexas.edu University of Texas System THEnet: THENIC::DON Office of Telecommunication Services From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 21 20:32:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA19595 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:32:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA19591 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:32:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id UAA06549; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:33:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id UAA06547 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:33:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from faust27-s.rz.uni-frankfurt.de (faust27-s.rz.uni-frankfurt.de [141.2.149.151]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id UAA06507 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:33:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from devilbox (actually NAFp2-031.rz.uni-frankfurt.de) by anna-atm.rz.uni-frankfurt.de with Local SMTP (PP); Thu, 22 Jan 1998 02:32:10 +0000 Message-ID: <34C69F75.364FB3F1@em.uni-frankfurt.de> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 02:23:01 +0100 From: "Robert O'Kane" Organization: OTHERSPACE X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.1.79 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Scheel CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Printing via Ghostscript References: <34C666A8.C881F01A@camelot.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Greetings, Oliver Scheel wrote: > = > I want to print from my Mac via Netatalk 1.4b2 (os8 fixed) via > Ghostscript to my Stylus Color 600 connected to my FreeBSD 2.2.2 box. > On the Mac I selected the LaserWriter Color 16/600. > = > With some programs it work (BBEdit Lite, Claris Works), with other not > (e.g. Acrobat Reader). Ghostscript generates error stuff. Furthermore > when I try to print landscape ghostscript doesnt recognize it. > = > I think I need another PPD file and/or have to reconfigure > ghostscript. > = After some( >=3D4 hours) of searching and playing (I never used a MAC before .. Lucky me ;-) ... I found that a PPD is a "well known" options translator which = seems to be very popular in the mac world. (possibly others also). This means the options in the PPD file have definitions for 'how' to enable those options for the driver your useing. Often these are Postscript dictionary definitions for how to enable/select some option that is defined in the driver. (Page size selection, 'bits per pixel', etc...) By looking at the PPD from other manufacturers drivers, you can 'see' how things might be done. (e.g. BIRMY rip for epson 15xx - resolution PPD claims to be 1400x1400 but the rip in the PPD actually defines the known 1400x720 and enables another weave = pattern). (So why can we do the same? ;) DON'T ASK ME HOW TO WRITE A PPD FOR SOMETHING! I'm still learning also. What this job would need is a ghostscript expert which I'm the 2nd LAST on the list. (I know someone who knows less). So for you, "Yes, you would nees a PPD for the epson using a ghostscript driver." Is there a place to find such creations? Robert O'Kane > = > -- > http://www.camelot.de/~os/ > = > best things in life are free "... atleast until you try to return them." -- = */ ---------------------------------------------- Unfortunatly, I find language (like politics) necessary for humans. Leider finde Ich Sprache (wie Politik) fuer die Menschen notwendig. ---------------------------------------------- WHO : Robert O'Kane WHERE : K=FCnstlergruppe OTHERSPACE WHAT : Founding Member and Linker WHY : http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~okane HOW : okane@em.uni-frankfurt.de ---------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 22 10:57:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA01197 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:57:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA01193 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:57:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA06928; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:57:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA06829 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:56:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from listbox2.cern.ch (listbox2.cern.ch [137.138.24.200]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA06811 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:56:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from sunadm.cern.ch (sunadm.cern.ch [137.138.32.92]) by listbox2.cern.ch (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24288 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:56:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (reguero@localhost) by sunadm.cern.ch (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA10770 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:56:47 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: sunadm.cern.ch: reguero owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:56:47 +0100 (MET) From: Ignacio REGUERO X-Sender: reguero@sunadm To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Typo in zip.c? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu line 924 of netatalk-1.4b2/etc/atalkd/zip.c = line 1011 of netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.1/etc/atalkd/zip.c zt->zt_prev == NULL; this is in addzone(). could it be a typo? Best Regards Ignacio Reguero: ignacio.reguero@cern.ch CERN, European Laboratory for Particle Physics, IT Division, CH-1211 Geneva 23. Switzerland. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 22 11:13:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA01864 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:13:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA01851 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA08638; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:13:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA08532 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:13:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from listbox2.cern.ch (listbox2.cern.ch [137.138.24.200]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA08474 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:13:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from sunadm.cern.ch (sunadm.cern.ch [137.138.32.92]) by listbox2.cern.ch (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05884 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:13:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (reguero@localhost) by sunadm.cern.ch (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA10777 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:13:29 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: sunadm.cern.ch: reguero owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:13:28 +0100 (MET) From: Ignacio REGUERO X-Sender: reguero@sunadm To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Is this normal? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, Running netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.1 on RedHat 5.0 (Linux 2.0.32), I have acquired the config eth0 -phase 2 -net 41088 -addr 41088.79 -zone "B31-S" -zone "Private" -zone "CN" Which seems OK, but then I am getting thousands of messages like the following Jan 22 16:51:12 pcdisir atalkd[1877]: zip skip reply 42488-42488 from 41088.28 (no query) Jan 22 16:51:12 pcdisir atalkd[1877]: zip skip reply 42488-42488 from 41088.28 (no query) Jan 22 16:51:12 pcdisir atalkd[1877]: zip skip reply 42496-42496 from 41088.28 (no query) Jan 22 16:51:12 pcdisir atalkd[1877]: zip skip reply 42496-42496 from 41088.28 (no query) Jan 22 16:51:12 pcdisir atalkd[1877]: zip skip reply 42504-42504 from 41088.28 (no query) Is this normal? Thank you Ignacio Reguero: ignacio.reguero@cern.ch CERN, European Laboratory for Particle Physics, IT Division, CH-1211 Geneva 23. Switzerland. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 22 13:11:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA06631 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:11:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA06622 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:11:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA23978; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:10:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA23831 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:10:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhub.hitchcock.org (MAILHUB.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.100]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id NAA23407 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:08:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailbox1.Hitchcock.ORG (MAILBOX1.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.110]) by mailhub.hitchcock.org (8.6.12-DND/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA08139 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:09:17 -0500 Message-id: <14968393@mailbox1.Hitchcock.ORG> Date: 22 Jan 98 13:10:28 EST From: William.P.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG (William P. McGonigle) Reply-To: Bill.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.6 - almost there To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The umich n-971027 version starts up properly on my ethernet interface (still not luck with FDDI) and afpd runs well as long as there is activity. If I'm idle, though, it drops the connection after a couple minutes. The asun18.1 versions compiles well, too (using the new streams option), but atalkd freezes as it starts up. Has anyone gotten netatalk working reliably on Solaris 2.6? -Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 22 13:55:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA07988 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:55:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA07983 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:55:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA11186; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:54:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA10694 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:53:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id NAA10650 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:53:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from majink1.itc.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa02122; 22 Jan 98 11:21 EST Received: from majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU (majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU [128.143.12.118]) by majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA06147 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:21:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199801221621.LAA06147@majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:21:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert J. Marinchick" Reply-To: "Robert J. Marinchick" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk documentation To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: neO088zRxZDyrwn6l6VBnw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4c sparc Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi Folks, I'm trying to setup netatalk on a Solaris2.6 box, and am running into problems trying to understand exactly what I need to get it working. Is there a "How to " for Solaris with step by step instructions? Is there anything close? Any and all info will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bob Marinchick rjm8m@Virginia.Edu From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 23 07:47:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA24520 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 07:47:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA24516 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 07:47:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA01997; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 07:47:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA01988 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 07:47:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from cthulhu.finest.tm.fr (cthulhu.finest.tm.fr [194.206.189.253]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id HAA01983 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 07:47:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 32104 invoked from network); 23 Jan 1998 12:53:29 -0000 Received: from cthugha.ludexpress.com (HELO ludexpress.com) (@194.206.189.19) by cthulhu.finest.tm.fr with SMTP; 23 Jan 1998 12:53:29 -0000 Message-ID: <34C891B0.38D9AD7A@ludexpress.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:48:48 +0100 From: Jean-Christophe Praud Organization: Ludexpress X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] NetATalk & Samba on Intel Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, I've installed NetATalk and Samba on a RedHat 5.0 Linux box. PC and Mac users have to share HTML and image files. When a PC write image files to the linux and read them. It works well When a Mac does the same, it works too. The trouble is : when a mac tries to read an image file created by a PC, the file is corrupted. On some linear format such as TIFF, the image is valid up to a certain offset in the file. I suspect a CR/LF conversion. But I couldn't find out where. For the mac, text files and image files appear with the same icon. Any idea about that ? -- Jean-Christophe PRAUD - LUDEXPRESS Game Web: http://www.chronos.org Perso Web: http://www.brutaltruth.com Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu n'gah Bill R'lyeh Wgah'nagl fhtagn. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 23 08:50:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA25931 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:50:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA25927 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:50:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA02512; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:49:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA02498 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:49:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from www-bio.cnnet.clu.edu (cncac68.cnnet.clu.edu [136.145.187.88]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA02487 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:49:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from www-bio.cnnet.clu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www-bio.cnnet.clu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05453 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:47:33 -0400 Message-Id: <199801231347.JAA05453@www-bio.cnnet.clu.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 05/05/96 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] "zip ignoring gnireply" messages in syslog? Reply-To: zuazaga@coqui.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:47:32 -0400 From: Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In this weeks syslog file I have about 42000 of the following: Jan 23 09:26:36 www-bio atalkd[247]: zip ignoring gnireply Jan 23 09:26:36 www-bio atalkd[247]: zip gnireply from 8100.26 (eth0 b2) the last two digits in the address change. What are these, and how can I stop them? I looked at the list archives and the FAQ-o-matic, and couldn't find a reference. It looks like the mail list archives end in October 1997. -- Humberto Ortiz Zuazaga http://www-bio.cnnet.clu.edu/~zuazaga/ zuazaga@coqui.net From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 23 09:05:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA26517 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:05:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA26511 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:05:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id JAA14776; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:06:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id JAA14772 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:06:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id JAA14753 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:06:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from majink1.itc.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id ab01968; 23 Jan 98 9:04 EST Received: from majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU (majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU [128.143.12.118]) by majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA06851 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:04:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199801231404.JAA06851@majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:04:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert J. Marinchick" Reply-To: "Robert J. Marinchick" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Documentation To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: h3+Ed+MpMXgtr+3Pf74bbw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4c sparc Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Thanks to all who answered my request for netatalk documentation. What I'm trying to do is set up my Solaris2.6 box as a print server, and as an Apple share file translator. I have (I think) a working netatalk module, and am trying to find out how to use it. I followed the documentation included with the download file, but had to make some changes to get a good compile & installation. The following are the problems encountered and changes made. This is what I encountered with the netatalk-1.4b2 download on Dec.19, 1997. Make problems encountered when trying to "make" netatalk-1.4b2. 1. Initially, encountered #error "NO DATAMODEL_NATIVE specified" from 'model.h'. --corrected by recompiling "gcc"-- 2. In 'ddptp_utls.c', encountered conflicting types for both "msgdsize" & "allocb". --corrected by commenting them out in the "ddptp_utls.c" program and using the 'stream.h' definations. 3. In 'libatalk/nbp directory' encountered parse errors in the /gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/byteorder.h module. --corrected by changing /usr/include/netdb.h to point to /usr/include/sys/byteorder.h. 4. In 'nbp_util.c' encountered "structure has no member name 'S_un'. Reason -- variables s_net & s_node were defined in member at_addr, and s_net was also #defined in /usr/include/netinet/in.h. I decided to change the variables in member at_addr to ss_net & ss_node respectively. However, this change required similar changes to a number of modules in various directories. In retrospect, I should have #undefined s_net in the in.h header file. But, after making the changes to the various program source, the "make" did work. 'getzones' and 'nbplkup' work correctly, but when I try to test 'pap', I get the following error with the following command: .paprc is dfined /usr/local/atalk/bin/pap netatalk.html Trying 3072.132:158 ... status: busy; source: APPLETALK Connected to printer_l1:LaserWriter@AAL-West Grounds. %%[ Error: syntaxerror; OffendingCommand: h ]%% %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% Connection closed. Obviously, I'm missing something - like - how netatalk should work. Thanks again for your suggestions and suggested readings. Bob Marinchick rjm8m@Virginia.Edu From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 23 09:22:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA27358 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:22:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA27354 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:22:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id JAA20021; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:23:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id JAA19998 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:23:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.imaginet.co.uk (tanya.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.16]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id JAA19959 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:23:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:20:11 +0000 (GMT) From: Vivek To: Jean-Christophe Praud cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NetATalk & Samba on Intel Linux In-Reply-To: <34C891B0.38D9AD7A@ludexpress.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Jean-Christophe Praud wrote: > When a PC write image files to the linux and read them. It works well > When a Mac does the same, it works too. > The trouble is : when a mac tries to read an image file created by a PC, > the file is corrupted. > On some linear format such as TIFF, the image is valid up to a certain > offset in the file. > I suspect a CR/LF conversion. But I couldn't find out where. > For the mac, text files and image files appear with the same icon. It certainly sounds like CR/LF conversion: make sure your AppleVolumes.system file has appropriate type/creator entries for the various types of file you want to share: Setting your default translation to BINA/ttxt or similar might help to - this will mean that CR/LF translation will only occur for file types you specifically set to type TEXT. I hope. -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 23 09:34:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA27949 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:34:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA27939 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:33:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA28804; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:33:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA28797 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:33:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.shreve.net (mercury.shreve.net [208.206.76.23]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA28786 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:33:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from [208.206.76.20] (casey.shreve.net [208.206.76.20]) by mercury.shreve.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA18562 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:33:16 -0600 Message-Id: <199801231433.IAA18562@mercury.shreve.net> Subject: [netatalk-admins] MacOS8.1 conflict? Date: Fri, 23 Jan 98 08:33:19 -0600 x-sender: kheflin@mail.shreve.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: kheflin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu We've been running Netatalk with the AppleshareIP support for sometime, with MacOS8 clients without any problems. Since I've done a clean install on a PowerMac9500 with MacOS8.1 with the hfs+, when I mount the linux drives via AppleshareIP, I'm getting alot of the "dancing icons" which I didn't see before, but more importantly, when ever I try to upload files to the linux server, I get an error that there is not enough room to copy the file and that x amount needs to be removed. If I try this from an MacOS8 client, everything is fine. Any comments, suggestions, or possible fixes would be much appreciated. Kevin -------------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Heflin | ShreveNet, Inc. | Ph:318.222.2638 x103 VP/Mac Tech | 333 Texas St #619 | FAX:318.221.6612 kheflin@shreve.net | Shreveport, LA 71101 | http://www.shreve.net -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 23 11:48:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA03541 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:48:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA03537 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:48:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA18557; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:49:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA17997 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:48:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from schubert.promo.de (schubert.Promo.DE [194.45.188.65]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA17973 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:47:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from stefan.promo.de (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA08926; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 17:44:58 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 17:46:41 +0100 From: "Stefan Bethke" To: "Robert J. Marinchick" , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Documentation Message-ID: <1669284.3094566401@stefan.promo.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry Demo (MacOS) [1.4.0a1, s/n Evaluation] X-Licensed-To: Unlicensed - for evaluation only MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --On Fre, 23. Jan 1998 9:04 Uhr -0500 "Robert J. Marinchick" wrote: > 'getzones' and 'nbplkup' work correctly, but when I try to test 'pap', > I get the following error with the following command: .paprc is dfined > > /usr/local/atalk/bin/pap netatalk.html > > Trying 3072.132:158 ... > status: busy; source: APPLETALK > Connected to printer_l1:LaserWriter@AAL-West Grounds. > %%[ Error: syntaxerror; OffendingCommand: h ]%% > %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% > Connection closed. > > Obviously, I'm missing something - like - how netatalk should work. Yep, pap is working correctly: it's your PostScript printer that doesn't know how to do HTML. Send PostScript instead. pap simply sends the job to the printer, but does no conversion to whatever the printer might require (i. E. ps). Use psf to convert non-PostScript data to PostScript. For a quick test, you can send this PostScript program: /Helvetica findfont 12 scalefont setfont 72 72 moveto (Just a test...) show showpage ^D Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-18 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 23 12:27:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA05130 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:27:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA05126 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:27:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA28978; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:26:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA28462 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:24:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from idiom.com (idiom.com [140.174.82.4]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA27955 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:23:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from joshr@localhost) by idiom.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA10480; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:24:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19980123092428.51246@idiom.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:24:28 -0800 From: Josh Rotenberg To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] FileGuard and netatalk 1.4b2 on Linux 2.0.33 Reply-To: josh@parasite.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu hi, my network admin asked me some questions about problems we are having using netatalk on linux whilst using FileGuard on the mac. below is an edited version of his email. i have poked around a bit and havent found any answers. if anyone has seen this problem and, even better, fixed it, please let me know. thanks, josh ********* Here is the deal: we cannot run FileGuard on our Macs (security software to lock screens and secure the data on the machines) because of a conflict that happens when the FileGuard extension is running, and the person tries to use the "Webserver" volume shared from the linux machine. Here is the info I've got from the Mac side: Mac OS 7.5.5, 7.6.1, 8.0 Open Transport 1.1, 1.2 Apple Share Client 3.6, 3.7, 3.7.2 FileGuard 3.0.5, 3.0.8 1) When you log into "webserver" from the chooser and try to copy a file onto the "webserver" volume, it freezes the machine 2) When you try and log into "webserver" using Drag Thing, it freezes the machine 3) The problem is caused not only by trying to copy a file from the local file system to the remote system but also when people try and log into the machine. Would you speculate the problem is with FileGuard? or NetaTalk? Please let me know how you think I should proceed. I will continue working with ASD Software technical support, but answers to the questions you have above might provide me with some information I'm sure they are going to ask. -- josh rotenberg email: josh@adj.com josh@parasite.com web: www.adj.com www.parasite.com phone: 415 487 4520 x 151 don't call me. static void (*function)(void *) = (void (*)(void *))NULL; # This is a comment. I love comments. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 23 13:01:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA06500 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:01:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA06495 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:01:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA11683; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:01:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA11617 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:00:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from kramer.dynamind-llc.com (kramer.dynamind-llc.com [206.153.113.189]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA11099 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:59:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from dyna-ntserver (www3.dynamind-llc.com [206.153.113.190]) by kramer.dynamind-llc.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA05608; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:00:16 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980123130016.00f59e90@kramer.dynamind-llc.com> X-Sender: philip@kramer.dynamind-llc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:00:16 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, Vivek From: Kramer Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NetATalk & Samba on Intel Linux In-Reply-To: References: <34C891B0.38D9AD7A@ludexpress.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 02:20 PM 1/23/98 +0000, you wrote: >On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Jean-Christophe Praud wrote: > >> When a PC write image files to the linux and read them. It works well >> When a Mac does the same, it works too. >> The trouble is : when a mac tries to read an image file created by a PC, >> the file is corrupted.=20 >> On some linear format such as TIFF, the image is valid up to a certain >> offset in the file. >> I suspect a CR/LF conversion. But I couldn't find out where.=20 >> For the mac, text files and image files appear with the same icon. > >It certainly sounds like CR/LF conversion: make sure your >AppleVolumes.system file has appropriate type/creator entries for the >various types of file you want to share: Setting your default translation >to BINA/ttxt or similar might help to - this will mean that CR/LF >translation will only occur for file types you specifically set to >type TEXT. I hope. > Hey! Thought you might find this helpful. I use the following AppleVolumes.system file. It takes care of most everything. Good luck. Philip _____cut here_______ /usr/sharevol "Share Me" /usr/install "Install" . TEXT ttxt ASCII Text file .a TEXT MPS Assembly Source .aif AIFF SNDM AIFF Sound .aiff AIFF SNDM AIFF Sound .aifc AIFF SNDM AIFF Sound .arc BINA arc=A9 PC ARChive .asc TEXT ttxt ASCII Text .ascii TEXT ttxt ASCII Text .au ULAW SNDM Sun Sound .avi BINA AVIC VI Movie .backup FASL Fra5 FrameMaker Backup file .bat TEXT ttxt MS-DOS Batch File .bar BARF S6+1 Unix BAR Archive .bin BINA SITx MacBinary .bmp BMPp JVWR Windows Bitmap .bok FBok Fra5 FrameMaker Book file .book FBok Fra5 FrameMaker Book file .c TEXT MMCC C Source .com PCFA PCXT MS-DOS Binary .cp TEXT MMCC C Source .cpp TEXT MMCC C Source .cpt PACT CPCT Compact Pro Archive .dbf COMP FOX DBase Document .dl DL AnVw DL Animation .dll PCFL PCXT Windows DLL .doc WDBN MSWD Word Document .dvi ODVI OTEX TeX DVI Document .eps EPSF vgrd PostScript .epsf EPSF vgrd PostScript .etx TEXT R*ch SEText .evy ENYD ENVY Envoy Document .exe PCFA PCXT MS-DOS Binary .faq TEXT ttxt ASCII Text .fli FLI AnVw FLI Animation .fm FMPR FMPR FileMaker Pro Database .fm5 FASL Fra5 FrameMaker Document .gif GIFf JVWR GIF Picture .gl BINA AnVw GL Animation .gz Gzip Gzip Gnu ZIP Archive .h TEXT MMCC C Include File .hp TEXT MMCC C Include File .hpp TEXT MMCC C Include File .hqx TEXT SITx BinHex4 .htm TEXT MOSS HyperText Markup Language (HTML) .html TEXT MOSS HyperText Markup Language (HTML) .ief IEF GKON IEF Image .java TEXT ALFA Java Source .jpg JPEG JVWR JPEG Picture .jpe JPEG JVWR JPEG Picture .jpeg JPEG JVWR JPEG Picture .latex TEXT OTEX TeX Document .lha LHA LARC LHArc Archive .lzh LHA LARC LHArc Archive .med STrk STrk MOD Music .mid Midi ttxt MIDI Sound .mif TEXT Fram MIF Fra5 FrameMaker MIF .mod STrk STrk MOD Sound .moov MooV ttxt QuickTime Movie .mov MooV ttxt QuickTime Movie .mpe MPEG mMPG MPEG Movie .mpg MPEG mMPG MPEG Movie .mpeg MPEG mMPG MPEG Movie .mswd WDBN MSWD Microsoft Word document .mw WORD MWII MacWrite Document .mwii WORD MWII MacWrite Document .obj PCFL PCXT Object (DOS/Windows) .oda ODIF ODA ODA Document .ovl PCFL PCXT Overlay (DOS/Windows) .p TEXT MWPS Pascal Source .pas TEXT MWPS Pascal Source .pbm PPGM GKON Portable Bitmap .ps TEXT vgrd PostScript .pct PICT ttxt PICT Picture # this should be corrected: #.pdf TEXT caro Portable Display Format (Adobe Acrobat) .pdf PDF CARO Portable Display Format (Adobe Acrobat) .pgm PPGM GKON Portable Graymap .pict PICT ttxt PICT Picture .pit PIT SITx PackIt Archive .pkg HBSF GEOL AppleLink Package .pl TEXT McPL Perl Source .pm4 ALB4 ALD4 PageMaker Document .ppm PPGM GKON Portable Pixmap .ppd SLD3 PPT3 Power Point .psd 8BPS 8BIM Photoshop .qt MooV ttxt QuickTime Movie .readme TEXT R*ch Text Readme .rle RLE GKON RLE Image .rpl FRL! REP! Replica Document .rtf TEXT MSWD Rich Text Format .rtx TEXT R*ch Rich Text .sea APPL ???? Self-Extracting Archive .sit SITD SIT! StuffIt Archive .sithqx TEXT SITx BinHexed StuffIt Archive .svx SVXB Snd WAV Sound .sylk TEXT XCEL SYLK Spreadsheet .syk TEXT XCEL SYLK Spreadsheet .tar TARF TAR! Unix Tape ARchive #.tar TARF S6+1 Unix Tape ARchive .taz ZIVM SITx Compressed Tape ARchive .tex TEXT OTEX TeX Document .texi TEXT OTEX TeX Document .texinfo TEXT OTEX TeX Document .tgz Gzip SITx Gnu ZIPed Tape ARchive .tif TIFF JVWR TIFF Picture .tiff TIFF JVWR TIFF Picture .tsv TEXT R*ch Tab Separated Values .txt TEXT MSWD ASCII Text .txt TEXT MSWD ASCII Text .url AURL Arch Anarchie URL Bookmark .uu TEXT uuUN UUEncode .uue TEXT uuUN UUEncode .voc ovc BSnd VOC Sound .wav WAVE SCPL Windows Sound .wk1 TEXT XCEL Lotus Spreadsheet .wks TEXT XCEL Lotus Spreadsheet .w51 WPPC WPC2 WordPerfect Document .wp5 WPPC WPC2 WordPerfect Document .wp WPPC WPC2 WordPerfect Document .xbm XBM GKON X Windows Picture .xl XLS4 XCEL Excel Spreadsheet .xlc XLC4 XCEL Excel Chart .xlm XLM4 XCEL Excel Macro .xls XLS4 XCEL Excel Spreadsheet .zip ZIP ZIP PC ZIP Archive .Z ZIVM LZIV Unix Compress Archive From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 23 19:12:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA18569 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 19:12:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA18565 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 19:11:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA13725; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 19:13:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA13711 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 19:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA13695 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 19:12:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26748 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:03:40 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA08790; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:11:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:11:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199801240011.QAA08790@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] a18.2 patchset available Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu this fixes a couple more buglets that are in the original 1.4b2 code. it initializes zt_prev to NULL properly and frees ofork fields in the correct order. the diff against 18.1 and full gzipped tar set are available at . -a From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jan 24 13:35:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA01654 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 13:35:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA01644 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 13:35:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA04747; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 13:36:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA04737 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 13:36:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from intel.tfreeman.vnet.net (tfreeman.vnet.net [166.82.193.183]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA04726 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 13:36:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (tfreeman@localhost) by intel.tfreeman.vnet.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA04981 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 13:36:26 -0500 Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 13:36:24 -0500 (EST) From: Thompson Freeman Reply-To: tfreeman@vnet.net To: netatalk-admins Subject: [netatalk-admins] Printing Challenge: Mac to LJ IIP via Linux Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I setup netatalk between my Linux box and the Mac in part hoping to use the HP LJ IIP for printing from the Mac. I have to assume that I'm either blind or missing something important, because I don't see anything to print from in the chooser, and I don't find a clue in the man pages or the documentation the rpm (I use Red Hat, FWIW) installed in /usr/doc/netatalk<>. Would some kind soul either point me to chapter and verse or spell out chapter and verse in nice one sylable(sp?) text? I'm assuming that the information is there and I'm just not recognizing stuff. Thanks to one and all for the assist. ========================================================= Thompson Freeman tfreeman@vnet.net Student of Chemistry and other Philisophical Studies ======================================================== From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jan 24 16:40:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA06277 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 16:40:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA06272 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 16:40:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA09704; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 16:40:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA09701 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 16:40:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from apollo.vicon.net (apollo.vicon.net [206.64.130.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA09692 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 16:40:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from pobox.com ([208.223.87.99]) by apollo.vicon.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18369 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 16:46:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34CA5F06.D4DB72B@pobox.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 16:37:10 -0500 From: Jason Belich Organization: The Lionhearted X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk, Security, & At Ease Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm new to Netatalk, and it's a great package, but... How do I set up a lab with At Ease so that a user can login at any machine and get access their home directory and only what they have permissions for? BTW: Netatalk 1.4b2 (redhat friendly RPM), Red Hat 5.0 Full Install, PPro200, 64MB RAM... TIA Jason From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jan 24 20:53:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA10288 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:53:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA10284 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:53:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id UAA09648; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:54:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id UAA09646 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:54:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from eve.telalink.net (eve.telalink.net [207.152.1.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA09642 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:54:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from babel.telalink.net (babel.telalink.net [207.152.1.9]) by eve.telalink.net (MTA-v3.8/9.00v-fbmx-blkspam) with ESMTP id TAA21244 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 19:47:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from cray.butler.net (bill@cray.butler.net [207.234.34.3]) by babel.telalink.net (MTA-v3.7/relaymail-1.0.0) with SMTP id TAA13205 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 19:52:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 19:52:50 -0600 (CST) From: Bill Butler X-Sender: bill@cray.butler.net To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Applying patches Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is definitely not an appropriate question for this board but I don't know where else to turn. I attempted to patch a18 to a18.1 & then a18.2. I cannot seem to patch a18 probably due to my lack of understanding regarding patch syntax. asun's readme suggests patching using the following syntax: zcat | patch -d -p1 I put in the following command: zcat /opt/src/a18-a18.1.diff.gz | patch -d /opt/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18/ -p1 I fails with error: I can't seem to find a patch in there. There is no question that the patch is in /opt/src. I expect, there is something very wrong in the way I am issuing the patch command. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- Bill Butler Bill@Telalink.Net President, Chief Operating Officer 615.321.9100 ext.230 ============================Hint to the Mac user============================= When talking to a Windows user, be sure to always adopt a condescending tone. If you have trouble with this, ask a Unix user. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jan 24 23:28:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id XAA12144 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:28:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA12140 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:27:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id XAA25158; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:26:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id XAA25156 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:26:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from eve.telalink.net (eve.telalink.net [207.152.1.3]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA25152 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 23:26:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from babel.telalink.net (babel.telalink.net [207.152.1.9]) by eve.telalink.net (MTA-v3.8/9.00v-fbmx-blkspam) with ESMTP id WAA06712 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 22:22:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from cray.butler.net (bill@cray.butler.net [207.234.34.3]) by babel.telalink.net (MTA-v3.7/relaymail-1.0.0) with SMTP id WAA17170 for ; Sat, 24 Jan 1998 22:27:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 22:27:55 -0600 (CST) From: Bill Butler X-Sender: bill@cray.butler.net To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Applying patches In-Reply-To: <199801250216.SAA09625@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Actually I was most interested in understanding the syntax for patch. It will also save em from having to edit my Makefiles everytime I upgrade & re-compile. On Sat, 24 Jan 1998, a sun wrote: > > you could always just grab 18.2 if you're having difficulty patching. > > -a > -- Bill Butler Bill@Telalink.Net President, Chief Operating Officer 615.321.9100 ext.230 ============================Hint to the Mac user============================= When talking to a Windows user, be sure to always adopt a condescending tone. If you have trouble with this, ask a Unix user. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jan 25 04:46:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA22700 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 04:46:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA22696 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 04:46:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA03082; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 04:46:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA03079 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 04:46:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhub2.cc.columbia.edu (mailhub2.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.16]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA03075 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 04:46:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from [128.59.135.108] (amlai.wien.rhno.columbia.edu [128.59.135.108]) by mailhub2.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA01022 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 04:46:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199801250946.EAA01022@mailhub2.cc.columbia.edu> Subject: [netatalk-admins] afpd & can't resolve symbol '__xstat' Date: Sun, 25 Jan 98 04:46:06 -0500 x-sender: aml61@amlai2.wien.rhno.columbia.edu x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Albert Lai To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu For some reason I have papd working just fine, but I just noticed that I can't connect to my Linux machine (RedHat 5.0, kernel 2.0.32) through the chooser. The machine shows up just fine, but eventually after trying to connect, it times out and says that the server dropped the connection. On the Linux machine, I get the message on the console that says, "afpd: can't resolve symbol '__xstat'". Has anyone seen something like this? Is there a way to fix it? Thanks in advance. \\\|||/// | | ( @ @ ) ********************************************oooO****(_)****Oooo********* * Albert Lai SEAS Columbia University * * Wien Residential Computer Consultant * * e-mail: amlai@columbia.edu http://www.columbia.edu * * aml61@columbia.edu http://amlai.wien.rhno.columbia.edu * * AOL: LaiAlbert@aol.com 5637 SW 38th St. * * 601/2 Wien Hall Topeka, KS 66610-1259 * * 411 West 116th St. Ph: (913)273-6780 * * New York, NY 10027-7201 .oooO * * Ph: (212)853-7575 ( ) Oooo. * *************************************************\ ( ( )************* \_) ) / (_/ From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jan 25 12:59:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA12819 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:59:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA12815 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA09965; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 13:00:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA09961 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 13:00:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from cthulhu.finest.tm.fr (cthulhu.finest.tm.fr [194.206.189.253]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id NAA09957 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 1998 13:00:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14524 invoked from network); 25 Jan 1998 18:05:43 -0000 Received: from cthugha.ludexpress.com (HELO ludexpress.com) (@194.206.189.19) by cthulhu.finest.tm.fr with SMTP; 25 Jan 1998 18:05:43 -0000 Message-ID: <34CB7DC7.D65B1CA1@ludexpress.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 19:00:39 +0100 From: Jean-Christophe Praud Organization: Ludexpress X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NetATalk & Samba on Intel Linux References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu OK, I've tuned my AppleVolume.system file, and it works. Tanks you all -- Jean-Christophe PRAUD - LUDEXPRESS Game Web: http://www.chronos.org Perso Web: http://www.brutaltruth.com Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu n'gah Bill R'lyeh Wgah'nagl fhtagn. Vivek wrote: > > On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Jean-Christophe Praud wrote: > > > When a PC write image files to the linux and read them. It works well > > When a Mac does the same, it works too. > > The trouble is : when a mac tries to read an image file created by a PC, > > the file is corrupted. > > On some linear format such as TIFF, the image is valid up to a certain > > offset in the file. > > I suspect a CR/LF conversion. But I couldn't find out where. > > For the mac, text files and image files appear with the same icon. > > It certainly sounds like CR/LF conversion: make sure your > AppleVolumes.system file has appropriate type/creator entries for the > various types of file you want to share: Setting your default translation > to BINA/ttxt or similar might help to - this will mean that CR/LF > translation will only occur for file types you specifically set to > type TEXT. I hope. > > -- > fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jan 26 07:25:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA21068 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 07:25:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA21064 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 07:25:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id HAA23784; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 07:26:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id HAA23782 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 07:26:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from stinky.trash.net (www.crashthe.net [195.216.65.218]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA23772 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 07:26:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (lkarrer@localhost) by stinky.trash.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA04719 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 13:24:45 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 13:24:45 +0100 (MET) From: Lukas Karrer To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Q: Printing via netatalk to parallel prt on SS10 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, I am resending my quest for an answer in setting up netatalk to print to a local postscript printer attached to a parallel-port on a Sun Sparc10. If you have solved this Printing-Issue, I would be VERY glad, if somebody could help me, or fill me in how to do this. Regards Lukas Karrer +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ Lukas Karrer Email: lkarrer@trash.net Sysadmin WWW: http://www.trash.net/ +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ Check out the stinkiest site on the web! Get a sniff from www.trash.net From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jan 26 11:49:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA28480 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 11:49:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA28475 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 11:49:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA17139; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 11:47:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA17096 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 11:47:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from knot.iegroup.com (ns.iegroup.com [24.124.2.253]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA17072 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 11:47:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from knot.iegroup.com (root@localhost) by knot.iegroup.com with ESMTP id KAA14159; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:48:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from iegroup.com (bofh.iegroup.com [10.0.1.171]) by knot.iegroup.com with ESMTP id KAA14155; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:48:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <34CCBE74.DBCD68D3@iegroup.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:48:52 -0600 From: John Fulmer Organization: Secure Network Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.31 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.6 - almost there References: <14968393@mailbox1.Hitchcock.ORG> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------msECDDD62DE16F5490F731237D" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------msECDDD62DE16F5490F731237D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The asun18.1 versions compiles well, too (using the new streams option), but > atalkd freezes as it starts up. > > Has anyone gotten netatalk working reliably on Solaris 2.6? > > -Bill I have the stock netatalk on our Solaris 2.6, but it's only supporting one user... jf -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + John Fulmer | "UNIX was not designed to stop + + Secure Network System | you from doing stupid things, + + Lawrence, Kansas | because that would also stop you + + | from doing clever things." + + jfulmer@iegroup.com | + + http://www.iegroup.com | -- Larry Wall + + "The opinions contained above may not reflect those of SNS" + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------------msECDDD62DE16F5490F731237D Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIIFFQYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIFBjCCBQICAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMAsGCSqGSIb3DQEHAaCC A7wwggHVMIIBPgIBBDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFADA4MQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzEQMA4GA1UEChMH SUVHcm91cDEXMBUGA1UEAxMOY2EuaWVncm91cC5jb20wHhcNOTcxMjA1MjMzNjU1WhcNOTkw NTI5MjMzNjU1WjByMQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzEQMA4GA1UEChMHSUVHcm91cDEXMBUGCgmSJomT 8ixkAQETB2pmdWxtZXIxFDASBgNVBAMTC0pvaG4gRnVsbWVyMSIwIAYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhNq ZnVsbWVyQGllZ3JvdXAuY29tMFwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADSwAwSAJBANgDw6Osd5oARwFP sEGWggMV7G0i/Xh2486AB1X4sE9r87/EID02Z2WSN0AHZC6/y6OOZ0ZE9hY43AAivVj7VnUC AwEAATANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOBgQCnB98790ioa42NbebiTwt+y5827niX71nF+hZ2eI6/ TYpKAtnF38pYk9r+ndg37ki419A07OyL1oMq58QhSAIr4/zJcIaHw7kxqmuka5x+/KoVI7QI 2V9rJYAYANVqDTch2p2MsQqKNTvrPI+ySacqvgT3l25Pv/bstKsof/OHVjCCAd8wggFIAgEB MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBAUAMDgxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlVTMRAwDgYDVQQKEwdJRUdyb3VwMRcwFQYD VQQDEw5jYS5pZWdyb3VwLmNvbTAeFw05NzEyMDUyMjIzNTJaFw05OTEyMDUyMjIzNTJaMDgx CzAJBgNVBAYTAlVTMRAwDgYDVQQKEwdJRUdyb3VwMRcwFQYDVQQDEw5jYS5pZWdyb3VwLmNv bTCBnzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAAOBjQAwgYkCgYEAsXTMxaTocZDnCyfahQC9G5NFXmiXVCRW kzSyXNt/AHjCdDB+ytjDsEMd0lnKOi/GorZUQdseNfLWtmFs7wZMXdwWbAZ6ejZUt9Nn+kax Ket9xOjzhR0resgO+lCRw/qhFlTmJchBAdFX2K/qvQVaLbyhmFSd+4DIQ+Jk7sYSEdMCAwEA ATANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQQFAAOBgQAdgVcpokMTmToATCpHD6+Oi8uPpFAbMipesSQSbiPDBp45 7Fr6DoWaXxs7/mr2RhrHvhxEf3N5B2581sFcxwPuWjfQDV/7vat/8hvX3HDoFUvGBYyX8BSt KzmBZ7hR/bphYDFfeScovNgbVWmABvnSW6e5nZHj0VWoD//UZNEyBTGCASEwggEdAgEBMD0w ODELMAkGA1UEBhMCVVMxEDAOBgNVBAoTB0lFR3JvdXAxFzAVBgNVBAMTDmNhLmllZ3JvdXAu Y29tAgEEMAkGBSsOAwIaBQCgfTAYBgkqhkiG9w0BCQMxCwYJKoZIhvcNAQcBMBwGCSqGSIb3 DQEJBTEPFw05ODAxMjYxNjQ4NTJaMB4GCSqGSIb3DQEJDzERMA8wDQYIKoZIhvcNAwICASgw IwYJKoZIhvcNAQkEMRYEFE5gt0Q1QTjFaN1Po87iZCVpxWlPMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBAQUABEDJ m/cRFIS/vzWdd5GRKZn63MSdqmpqgES7SPZsF0GW2ccrM5Ru3iFPR/ZWVvpbiY0QKyYe2qA5 tWvWSKPfH6wt --------------msECDDD62DE16F5490F731237D-- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jan 26 14:46:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA08049 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 14:46:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA08034 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 14:46:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA00701 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 12:27:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA15424; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 12:27:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA15338 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 12:27:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from deis98.deis.unibo.it (deis98.deis.unibo.it [137.204.57.98]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA15261 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 12:26:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from deis.unibo.it (deis176 [137.204.57.176]) by deis98.deis.unibo.it (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA12400 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 18:18:30 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <34CCC88A.64D7BD66@deis.unibo.it> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 18:31:58 +0100 From: Gaetano Bellanca Reply-To: gbellanca@deis.unibo.it Organization: D.E.I.S. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Universit=E0?= di Bologna X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Help with netatalk1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folks! I'm having problems with netatalk1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2. 1) All thins are (correctly?) compiled and installed but, when I'm trying to connect, I'm able to see the server and my filesystem but, after introducing the password, the connection is dropped. Any suggestion? 2) How to set printers (on Solaris 2.5.1)? There isn't printcap! 3) Where it is possible to find (optional) libraries requested by asun? I only found des library! Thanks in advance. Gaetano -- ___[_____]___ (.) (.) (_) --------------------o00O-------O00o------------------- +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Gaetano Bellanca | | D.E.I.S. - Dipartimento di Elettronica, Informatica e Sistemistica. | | University of Bologna. | | Viale Risorgimento, 2 - 40136 - Bologna - ITALY | | | | Phone : +39 51 6443060 | | Fax : +39 51 6443073 | | | | mailto:gbellanca@deis.unibo.it URL:http://www.deis.unibo.it | | | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jan 26 15:57:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA12720 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:57:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA12709 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:56:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA08998; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:55:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA08884 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:55:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from chico.net-mail.ch ([195.216.69.66]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA08183 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:53:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from sokrates. (dial-pri-ra3.active.ch [195.246.76.13]) by chico.net-mail.ch (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA00483; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:55:59 GMT Received: from [192.168.0.2] by sokrates. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA00346; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:08:05 +0100 X-Sender: lkarrer@192.168.0.9 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:05:28 +0100 To: Edan Idzerda From: Lukas Karrer Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Q: Printing via netatalk to parallel prt on SS10 Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello again, I wrote: >I am resending my quest for an answer in setting up netatalk to print to >a local postscript printer attached to a parallel-port on a Sun Sparc10. Edan Idzerda replied > Do you have a specific problem or just generally don't know how to do it ? > You must have a PPD file for your printer and create a papd.conf file and > run papd - when you've done this much, your Mac clients should at least see > the printer in the Chooser. Maybe a bit more detail about your problem > would help. Sorry, I was a little to fast in writing to the list and forgot several things!! I am using Solaris 2.6 on a Sun Sparc 10. Lan is connected via the internal le:0, the printer to the parallel port. Netatalk is Version 1.4b2 compiled on Solaris 2.6. Printing is set up: # lpstat -a QMS-PS410 accepting requests since Sat Jan 17 19:25:47 MET 1998 # cat /etc/printers.conf QMS-PS410:\ :bsdaddr=sokrates,QMS-PS410,Solaris:\ :description=QMS-PS410: _default:\ :use=QMS-PS410: I am able to print local, that means # lpr some.ps or # lpr some.ascii I configured papd as follows: (as was statet in the FAQ @ http://www.cec.mtu.edu/Doc/FAQ/netatalk.html QMS-PS410:\ :pr=|/usr/ucb/lpr:\ :op=daemon:\ :pd=/opt/atalk/ppd/QMS-PS410 the printer shows up in the chooser on my mac. I can mount Volumes. I issue the command: # ps -edf | grep atalk root 170 1 0 19:54:40 ? 0:00 /opt/atalk/etc/atalkd root 184 1 0 19:55:25 ? 0:00 /opt/atalk/etc/papd root 186 1 0 19:55:25 ? 0:00 /opt/atalk/etc/afpd data 208 186 0 19:56:02 ? 0:00 /opt/atalk/etc/afpd which shows me all services are running. I do not have entries of papd in syslog or /var/adm/messages. Whenever I want to Print from my mac (PPC 7200, OS 7.6 German), the Job gets accepted by Desktop Printing (The Icon changes to the 'busy-printer') and my mac just waits (status: print spooler processing job) (It does NOT hang however!) The Job can be deleted from the queue on my mac. After a few seconds, I get the entry in /var/adm/messages Jan 26 20:00:33 sokrates papd[184]: child 325 killed with 11 And my mac complains that the print-job failed because of an communication-problem. I have no IDEA whatsoever could be wrong. I would be VERY grateful if somebod could give me a hand! Thanks in advance Lukas Karrer +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Lukas Karrer Email: lkarrer@trash.net WWW: http://www.trash.net/ +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Check out the stinkiest site on the web! Get a sniff from www.trash.net From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 27 10:48:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA24598 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:48:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA24594 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:48:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA20505; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:48:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA20451 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:48:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk (lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.120.6]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA20383 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:48:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from dis.strath.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/2.0A) with ESMTP id PAA13523 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:47:26 GMT To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk1.4b2+asun2.0a18 on Solaris 2.5.1 with new streams? Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:47:26 +0000 Message-ID: <13521.885916046@dis.strath.ac.uk> From: Duncan Sinclair Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi Folks, I've got netatalk running quite well on my Solaris 2.5.1 machine - using the new beta Solaris streams code, and a hacked lpr - smooth and almost trouble free. As I've just got my hands of MacOS 8, I thought I would look into Adrian's patches to give me full MacOS 8 compatibility. Unfortunately I can't get "1.4b2+asun2.0a18" to work with the new Solaris code (complete with "-DNEW_STREAMS_MODULE".) Specifically, atalkd hangs starting up, and I get this message in my kernel log: Jan 27 13:21:01 scarlet unix: netatalk 971027 Jan 27 13:21:01 scarlet unix: NOTICE: tpi_wput M_PCPROTO 0x9 Digging around it's easy to find where this error message is generated, but I haven't a clue what it all means. Does anybody have any spare clues? Does anyone have fast (TCP), reliable afpd on their Sun? Cheers, Duncan Sinclair. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 27 14:37:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA03385 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:37:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA03379 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:37:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA21669; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:38:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA21665 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:38:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from infolive.ie (gateway.infolive.ie [193.120.120.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA21654 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:38:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from scope.ie ([10.0.0.20]) by gateway.infolive.ie with ESMTP id <20610>; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:24:44 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.71] by scope.ie with ESMTP (MailShare 1.0fc5); Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:59:27 +0000 X-Sender: moran@10.0.0.20 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:40:53 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Tony Moran Subject: [netatalk-admins] Uh-oh : irq timeouts ? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have a IDE (I know...sucks)P100 with Netatalk 1.4b2 on slackware, and after 10 days of the server being up and working dandy, I keep these messages on the console: hda : irq timeout : status 0x80 {busy} ide0 : reset timed-out, status = 0x80 hda : drive not ready for command ide0 : reset : success Over and over again. A User noticed their Mac was random periods of the Mac Stopwatch coming up... When I tried to shutdown I just kept getting Segmentation fault (core dumped) and it wouldnt shut down.. When I ran e2fsck on hda, I got a huge amount of illegal blocks in inodes and inodes with the wrong dtime set. There wasnt much disk activity going on when the messages started appearing - its the end of the working day really.. Anyone know whats going on ? - I do think the IDE HDdrive is a little flaky...but any problems I had when I got Lnux up and running on it disappeared.. Any suggestions anyone ? If its likely this'll keep up, I'll have to change the server back around to NT...ugh.. Thanks very much, Tony oh crap...also getting from e2fsck : : i_dir_acl for inode : i_fsize for inode : Unattached inode : ref count is 2, should be 1 __________________________________________________ Tony Moran IT Manager Ph: (+353-1)-8303455 Scope Communications. Fax: (+353-1)-8300888 http://www.infolive.ie http://www.jobfinder.ie Ireland's online Jobs and IT resources Web Site - Check us out ! __________________________________________________ How to complain about Spam: http://weber.ucsd.edu/~pagre/spam.html From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 27 14:46:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA03898 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:46:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA03891 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:46:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA02371; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:46:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA02367 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:46:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA02329 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:46:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03331; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:46:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from cec.mtu.edu (root@cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.196]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24933; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:46:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from critter.cec.mtu.edu (critter.cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.204]) by cec.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/mtumailer-1.2) with SMTP id OAA04243; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:45:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:46:28 -0500 (EST) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@critter.cec.mtu.edu To: Lukas Karrer cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Q: Printing via netatalk to parallel prt on SS10 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This sounds very much like the behavior I get when trying to use a printer driver on the Mac other than "LaserWriter 8." Specifically, I have always wanted to use "HP Color LaserJet 5M" but whenever I print with that driver... *tick*tick*tick*tick*. No dice. I've wrote on this issue before and I don't believe anyone has ever responded. Though, I've never sat down to work it out either. - edan On Mon, 26 Jan 1998, Lukas Karrer wrote: > Whenever I want to Print from my mac (PPC 7200, OS 7.6 German), the Job > gets accepted by Desktop Printing (The Icon changes to the 'busy-printer') > > and my mac just waits (status: print spooler processing job) (It does NOT > hang however!) The Job can be deleted from the queue on my mac. > > After a few seconds, I get the entry in /var/adm/messages > Jan 26 20:00:33 sokrates papd[184]: child 325 killed with 11 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 27 15:17:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA05561 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:17:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA05553 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:17:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA16403; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:17:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA16400 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:17:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from athena.intergrafix.net (athena.intergrafix.net [206.245.154.69]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA16375; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:17:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (admin@localhost) by athena.intergrafix.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA06362; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:17:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:17:25 -0500 (EST) From: System Administrator To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu cc: netatalk-users@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] please help getting netatalk to work! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm trying desperatly to get netatalk to work so a mac workstation can access our linux webserver (cygnus.intergrafix.net) files. However, it is being very difficult. I have tried both the .rpm and .tar.gz versions of netatalk with the same results on bootup. I'll try to give you as much detail as possible. If i let atalkd make my atalkd.conf, on bootup I get: starting appletalk daemons:Net (0) not in net-range (65280-65534) atalkdbind: Cannot assign requested address bind: Cannot assign requested address And in /var/log/messages: papd[648]: restart (1.4b2) afpd[650]: main: atp_open: Cannot assign requested address If I put nothing in the atalkd.conf, on bootup I get: starting appletalk daemons: atalkd, nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out Can't register cygnus:Workstation@* nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out Can't register cygnus:netatalk@* nbprgstr papd afpd And in /var/log/messages: atalkd[660]: restart (1.4b2) atalkd[660]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 last message repeated 2 times atalkd[660]: as_timer multiple interfaces, no seed atalkd[660]: as_timer can't configure eth0 atalkd[660]: as_timer waiting for router atalkd[660]: ready 0/0/0 papd[672]: restart (1.4b2) afpd[674]: Can't register cygnus:AFPServer@* Then my ethernet card (onboard Intel EtherExpress Pro 100) goes nuts with eth0: Tx timeout: Transmit timed out eth0: Trying to restart the transmitter... My ethernet is on eth0 and i'm using ip aliasing for virtual domains, so i have eth0:1 eth0:2 eth0:3, etc.. 'ifconfig eth0' reports eth0 Link encap: 10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:C9:60:50:0A inet addr: 206.245.154.68 Bcast:206.245.154.127 Mask:255.255.255.192 EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:65280/160 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU: 1500 Metric: 1 RX packets: etc, etc.. TX packets: etc, etc.. Interrupt: etc, etc.. PLEASE help if possible. Thanx. -Cygnus --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. "The only way to predict the future, is to invent it." .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. admin@intergrafix.net cygnus@ncohafmuta.com http://cygnus.ncohafmuta.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 27 16:26:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA08108 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:26:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA08099 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:25:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA17337; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:25:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA17322 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:25:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from tajin.cice.mx (tajin.cice.mx [148.230.37.100]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA17314 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:25:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (mhaza@localhost) by tajin.cice.mx (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA04778; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:11:53 -0600 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:11:51 -0600 (CST) From: Mario Haza To: Appletalk , Netatalk Subject: [netatalk-admins] Printing question. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have a SPARC Linux machine with 2.0.30 kernel, netatalk 1.4b2 with no patches. How can i limit the users that can use or access a printer with the papd? (another solution is wellcome). Thanks in advance. Mario "Mago" Haza Technical Support / Research Center for Educational Computing e-mail: mhaza@tajin.cice.mx mhaza@www.dcc.anahuac.mx Tel. (5) 627-0210 Ext. 8530 or 8527 (Mexico City) From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 27 16:28:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA08312 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:28:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA08302 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:28:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA17520; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:26:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA17465 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:26:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA17019; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:24:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA01085; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:26:36 GMT Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:26:36 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: System Administrator cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, netatalk-users@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] please help getting netatalk to work! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Are there any other AppleTalk routers on your network? If so what network ranges do they seed. If not try the following: shut down every mac on the network set seed information in atalkd.conf (choose a suitable zone name and a network range of something like 10-20) start netatalk. now start up the macs. On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, System Administrator wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying desperatly to get netatalk to work so a mac workstation can > access our linux webserver (cygnus.intergrafix.net) files. However, it is > being very difficult. I have tried both the .rpm and .tar.gz versions of > netatalk with the same results on bootup. I'll try to give you as much > detail as possible. > > If i let atalkd make my atalkd.conf, on bootup I get: > starting appletalk daemons:Net (0) not in net-range (65280-65534) > atalkdbind: Cannot assign requested address > bind: Cannot assign requested address > > And in /var/log/messages: > papd[648]: restart (1.4b2) > afpd[650]: main: atp_open: Cannot assign requested address > > If I put nothing in the atalkd.conf, on bootup I get: > starting appletalk daemons: atalkd, > nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out > Can't register cygnus:Workstation@* > nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out > Can't register cygnus:netatalk@* > nbprgstr papd afpd > > And in /var/log/messages: > atalkd[660]: restart (1.4b2) > atalkd[660]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 > last message repeated 2 times > atalkd[660]: as_timer multiple interfaces, no seed > atalkd[660]: as_timer can't configure eth0 > atalkd[660]: as_timer waiting for router > atalkd[660]: ready 0/0/0 > papd[672]: restart (1.4b2) > afpd[674]: Can't register cygnus:AFPServer@* > > Then my ethernet card (onboard Intel EtherExpress Pro 100) goes nuts with > eth0: Tx timeout: Transmit timed out > eth0: Trying to restart the transmitter... > > My ethernet is on eth0 and i'm using ip aliasing for virtual domains, so i > have eth0:1 eth0:2 eth0:3, etc.. > > 'ifconfig eth0' reports > eth0 Link encap: 10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:C9:60:50:0A > inet addr: 206.245.154.68 Bcast:206.245.154.127 Mask:255.255.255.192 > EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:65280/160 > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU: 1500 Metric: 1 > > RX packets: etc, etc.. > TX packets: etc, etc.. > Interrupt: etc, etc.. > > PLEASE help if possible. Thanx. > > -Cygnus > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer > .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. > "The only way to predict the future, is to invent it." > .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. > admin@intergrafix.net cygnus@ncohafmuta.com > http://cygnus.ncohafmuta.com/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 27 16:39:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA09273 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:39:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA09250 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:38:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA23720; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:38:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA23695 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:38:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from apollo.vicon.net (apollo.vicon.net [206.64.130.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA23064 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:37:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from pobox.com ([208.223.87.99]) by apollo.vicon.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21046 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:42:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34CE5283.C56A2006@pobox.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:32:51 -0500 From: Jason Belich Organization: The Lionhearted X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins Subject: [netatalk-admins] Adding a sun's patches to Redhat 5.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am using the specially patched RPM for Redhat 5.0. How do I add a sun's patches to it? The regular method doesn't seem to fly... Jason From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 27 16:40:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA09580 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:40:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from us.itd.umich.edu (stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu [141.211.164.7]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA09551 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:40:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA04540; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:40:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA04538; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:40:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from toastman.us.itd.umich.edu by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA04533; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:40:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by toastman.us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/dumb-1.0) id QAA01344; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:41:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:41:38 -0500 (EST) From: Scott Venier X-Sender: scottven@toastman.us.itd.umich.edu To: Mario Haza cc: Appletalk , Netatalk Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: Printing question. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've asked the same question before in the past, and the general agreemet was that there is nothing that can be done about it. If someone know something can can be done, please share! Scott On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Mario Haza wrote: > I have a SPARC Linux machine with 2.0.30 kernel, netatalk 1.4b2 with no > patches. > > How can i limit the users that can use or access a printer with the papd? > (another solution is wellcome). > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Mario "Mago" Haza > Technical Support / Research Center for Educational Computing > e-mail: mhaza@tajin.cice.mx > mhaza@www.dcc.anahuac.mx > Tel. (5) 627-0210 Ext. 8530 or 8527 (Mexico City) > > > ===================================================================== Scott Venier *ResComp Network Support Technician scottven@umich.edu *Consultant for Ingematics, scott@compu-aid.com a division of Compu-Aid, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 27 16:43:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA10095 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:43:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA10077 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:43:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA26129; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:43:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA26078 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:43:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA26033; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:43:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07193; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:43:16 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA03560; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:43:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:43:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199801272143.NAA03560@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: admin@intergrafix.net CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, netatalk-users@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from System Administrator on Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:17:25 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] please help getting netatalk to work! Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu this should be a FAQ. atalkd treats aliased interfaces as real ones. as a result, you either need to setup your atalkd.conf to treat your linux box as a router between the different interfaces or make sure that it doesn't try to query the aliased interfaces. to do the latter, just stick something like the following as the only line in atalkd.conf: eth0 -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -addr . -a From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 27 17:12:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA11937 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:12:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from homer.bethel.edu (homer.acs.bethel.edu [140.88.128.6]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA11929 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:11:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (turing.acs.bethel.edu [140.88.5.23]) by homer.bethel.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA28520 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:11:30 -0600 (CST) Received: by turing (NX5.67e) id AA02683; Tue, 27 Jan 98 16:11:30 -0600 Message-Id: <9801272211.AA02683@turing> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: "Brad G. Parks" Date: Tue, 27 Jan 98 16:11:29 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: Printing question. References: Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Okay, I'll share: Surface: User must connect to a network volume before they can print. Details: I had to make some modifications to afpd as well as papd, but it seems to be working okay so far. (It will be used by 30-50 machines starting next week, and even more next fall). Before papd allows a user to print, it looks up that user's Appletalk address in a datafile. If they do not have an entry in there, it refuses the printjob. How does the entry get there you ask? I'm forcing everyone to mount an afpd volume on the same server. (yes, they have to use straight Appletalk instead of Appletalk over IP) Scott said: > I've asked the same question before in the past, and the general agreemet > was that there is nothing that can be done about it. > If someone know something can can be done, please share! > > Scott > > On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, Mario Haza wrote: > > I have a SPARC Linux machine with 2.0.30 kernel, netatalk 1.4b2 with no > > patches. > > > > How can i limit the users that can use or access a printer with the papd? > > (another solution is wellcome). > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 27 17:17:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA12301 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:17:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA12291 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:17:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA10952; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:17:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA10932 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:17:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.sacbee.com (mail.sacbee.com [204.86.242.27]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA10871 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:17:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from exchange1.sacbee.com (exchange1.sacbee.com [128.103.5.210]) by mail.sacbee.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00938 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:20:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from matteo.sacbee.com by exchange1.sacbee.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1458.49) id DY0GS6ZA; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:13:51 -0800 X-Sender: mmatteo@exchange1.sacbee.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <34CE5283.C56A2006@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:14:45 -0800 To: Jason Belich From: Marc Matteo Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Adding a sun's patches to Redhat 5.0 Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On 1/27/98, Jason Belich wrote: >I am using the specially patched RPM for Redhat 5.0. How do I add a >sun's patches to it? The regular method doesn't seem to fly... What specially patch version for RH 5? I just got a vanilla 1.4b2 versions and patched away :). You do have to add: AFPLIBS= -lcrypt to your system/Linux/Makefile cuz RH 5.0 apperently doesn't do something right with the PAM libs... but other than that it works great for me. Marc Marc Matteo Web Engineer, The Sacramento Bee (916) 321-1242 http://www.sacbee.com From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 27 17:29:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA13402 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:29:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA13395 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA15459; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:29:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA15442 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:29:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from athena.intergrafix.net (athena.intergrafix.net [206.245.154.69]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA15365 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:29:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (admin@localhost) by athena.intergrafix.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA10171; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:29:20 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:29:20 -0500 (EST) From: System Administrator To: Alistair Riddell cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] please help getting netatalk to work! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > Are there any other AppleTalk routers on your network? any OTHER? if you consider the linux box a router, then no, no others. our cisco 2501 router doesn't have any appletalk on it. (both the linux server and mac plug into the ethernet switch, so the cisco is out of the picture) > shut down every mac on the network there's only 1 mac btw. > set seed information in atalkd.conf (choose a suitable zone name and a > network range of something like 10-20) where do i get a zone name?? do i have to make one somewhere? if so, where? -Cygnus --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. "The only way to predict the future, is to invent it." .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. admin@intergrafix.net cygnus@ncohafmuta.com http://cygnus.ncohafmuta.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, System Administrator wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying desperatly to get netatalk to work so a mac workstation can > > access our linux webserver (cygnus.intergrafix.net) files. However, it is > > being very difficult. I have tried both the .rpm and .tar.gz versions of > > netatalk with the same results on bootup. I'll try to give you as much > > detail as possible. > > > > If i let atalkd make my atalkd.conf, on bootup I get: > > starting appletalk daemons:Net (0) not in net-range (65280-65534) > > atalkdbind: Cannot assign requested address > > bind: Cannot assign requested address > > > > And in /var/log/messages: > > papd[648]: restart (1.4b2) > > afpd[650]: main: atp_open: Cannot assign requested address > > > > If I put nothing in the atalkd.conf, on bootup I get: > > starting appletalk daemons: atalkd, > > nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out > > Can't register cygnus:Workstation@* > > nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out > > Can't register cygnus:netatalk@* > > nbprgstr papd afpd > > > > And in /var/log/messages: > > atalkd[660]: restart (1.4b2) > > atalkd[660]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 > > last message repeated 2 times > > atalkd[660]: as_timer multiple interfaces, no seed > > atalkd[660]: as_timer can't configure eth0 > > atalkd[660]: as_timer waiting for router > > atalkd[660]: ready 0/0/0 > > papd[672]: restart (1.4b2) > > afpd[674]: Can't register cygnus:AFPServer@* > > > > Then my ethernet card (onboard Intel EtherExpress Pro 100) goes nuts with > > eth0: Tx timeout: Transmit timed out > > eth0: Trying to restart the transmitter... > > > > My ethernet is on eth0 and i'm using ip aliasing for virtual domains, so i > > have eth0:1 eth0:2 eth0:3, etc.. > > > > 'ifconfig eth0' reports > > eth0 Link encap: 10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:C9:60:50:0A > > inet addr: 206.245.154.68 Bcast:206.245.154.127 Mask:255.255.255.192 > > EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:65280/160 > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU: 1500 Metric: 1 > > > > RX packets: etc, etc.. > > TX packets: etc, etc.. > > Interrupt: etc, etc.. > > > > PLEASE help if possible. Thanx. > > > > -Cygnus > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer > > .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. > > "The only way to predict the future, is to invent it." > > .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. > > admin@intergrafix.net cygnus@ncohafmuta.com > > http://cygnus.ncohafmuta.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > Alistair Riddell - BOFH > IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh > Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 27 19:24:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA17732 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:24:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA17727 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:24:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA24516; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:24:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA24505 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:24:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from newsgate.dircon.co.uk (uugate1.dircon.co.uk [194.112.50.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA24467 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:24:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from nan.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by newsgate.dircon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.7) with UUCP id AAA08585 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:24:30 GMT Received: by mailhost.nan.co.uk (sendmail 8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA11236; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:43:22 GMT X-Sender: sw@mailhost.nan.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <34CE5283.C56A2006@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 3.1 Organization: Network Analysis Ltd Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:42:22 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Sak Wathanasin Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Adding a sun's patches to Redhat 5.0 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In reply to Marc Matteo's message of the 27/01/98 at 14:14 -0800, > I just got a vanilla 1.4b2 versions and patched away :). You do have to add: > > AFPLIBS= -lcrypt > > to your system/Linux/Makefile cuz RH 5.0 apperently doesn't do something > right with the PAM libs... but other than that it works great for me. The linux makefile in 1.4b2+asun assume that the PAM include and lib files have a common root or rather that they only differ in the last component of the path: it expects to find them in $PAMDIR/lib and $PAMDIR/include respectively. On my RH 5.0 at any rate, the PAM libs are in /lib and the includes are in /usr/include/security, so this strategywon't work. You can either create the appr links in /usr/lib and /usr/include or edit the makefile. I chose the latter. As far as I can tell, only etc/afpd/Makefile is affected. The Makefile sets up two further variables, PAMLIBDIRS and PAMINCPATH which I changed. It would probably be better if these were defined in the top-level makefile. Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK Internet: sw@nan.co.uk Phone: (+44) 1203 419996 Fax: (+44) 1203 690690 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 27 19:24:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA17762 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:24:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from z-axis.com (mail.z-axis.com [206.184.208.130]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA17750 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:24:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from venison.z-axis.com (venison.z-axis.com [206.184.208.164]) by z-axis.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA09110 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:24:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34CE7A7D.446B9B3D@z-axis.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:23:25 -0800 From: Greg Haa X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Zero K Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I use netatalk 1.4b2 and AMD an automounter daemon on three P200's with 32 meg's of RAM running FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE. When I look at my mount points on the macs it tells me that zero K is used and zero K is available. Any ideas why? Greg Haa greg@z-axis.com From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jan 27 21:37:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA22247 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:37:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA22243 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:37:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA29474; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:38:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA29470 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:38:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA29460 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:38:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09868; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:37:21 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA04427; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:37:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:37:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199801280237.SAA04427@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: sw@nan.co.uk CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from Sak Wathanasin on Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:42:22 +0000) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Adding a sun's patches to Redhat 5.0 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On my RH 5.0 at any rate, the PAM libs are in /lib and the includes are in /usr/include/security, so this strategywon't work. You can either create the appr links in /usr/lib and /usr/include or edit the makefile. I chose the umm, it looks like you're describing another RH 5.0 boo-boo. you should have a /usr/lib/libpam.so link which points to /lib/libpam.so.x for the linker to pickup even if the actual library is in /lib. the PAMDIR strategy actually works quite well with /usr/include/security and /lib/libpam.so.x if the above is true. contrary to popular belief, that's how my system is set up. actually, i'm amazed at how many mistakes RH 5.0 seems to have w.r.t. to this area. do people know if the RH folks are aware of these issues? -a From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 28 00:23:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id AAA00847 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:23:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA00809 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:23:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id AAA13955; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:23:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id AAA13944 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:23:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from oats.farm.niu.edu (oats.farm.niu.edu [131.156.99.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA13933 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 00:23:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] ([131.156.202.35]) by oats.farm.niu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA24821 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:23:06 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 22:39:15 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Brian Bergstrand Subject: [netatalk-admins] Alias switching Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Has anyone figured the cause/solution of the problem where aliases pointing to an app on a netatalk vol sometimes switch creator codes. This seems to be happening to me quite a bit, and it is really annoying. The alias seems to switch creators when I double click on it to launch the app. I thought I had heard of this problem somewhere, not sure though. Setup: 1 Mac, OS 8.1 Linux 2.0.33 (Slak 3.4 std dist) netatalk 1.4b2+asun18.2 Any input would be appreciated, Brian Brian Bergstrand University Network Specialist Northern Illinois University http://www.pair.com/dmoll/ "Most of the shots that we're talking about, which are the space battle shots at the end of the movie, were actually done on a Macintosh, the kind of thing that almost anybody can do." --George Lucas, on the refurbishment of the Star Wars trilogy. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 28 04:38:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA10129 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:38:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA09941 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:38:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA17672; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:38:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA17666 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:38:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from seldon.dtek.chalmers.se (seldon.dtek.chalmers.se [129.16.30.6]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA17661 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:38:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from lefkin.dtek.chalmers.se (d2agby@lefkin.dtek.chalmers.se [129.16.30.80]) by seldon.dtek.chalmers.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03754 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:38:34 +0100 (MET) From: Jens Agby Received: (from d2agby@localhost) by lefkin.dtek.chalmers.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16803 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:38:34 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199801280938.KAA16803@lefkin.dtek.chalmers.se> Subject: [netatalk-admins] afpd -c ??? To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:38:34 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu What exactly is a afpd connection (the kind you set with afpd -c)? As far as I can see each user starts an afpd process. So is it the number of afpd processes that gets limited or can each afpd process/user open a number of connections? I am asking since we have had problems with users not being able to save from applications (one connection per open document?) and copy files in MacOS8. We run 1.4b2 on a Solaris 2.5. Maxconnections is set to 20. Regards/ -- Jens Agby d2agby@dtek.chalmers.se It's 106 miles to Chicago, we've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses. (Elwood Blues) From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 28 05:18:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA23988 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:18:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA23935 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:18:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA21049; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:18:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA21047 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:18:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA21022 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:18:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA10601; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:18:31 GMT Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:18:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: System Administrator cc: Alistair Riddell , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] please help getting netatalk to work! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Shut down the mac, then do (as root) ifconfig eth0 -allmulti then put this in your atalkd.conf file: eth0 -phase 2 -net 10-20 -addr 10.5 -zone "Twilight Zone" After putting that in your atalkd.conf file, start netatalk, and see if you get any different results. On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, System Administrator wrote: > > > > > > Are there any other AppleTalk routers on your network? > > any OTHER? if you consider the linux box a router, then no, no others. > our cisco 2501 router doesn't have any appletalk on it. (both the linux > server and mac plug into the ethernet switch, so the cisco is out of the > picture) > > > shut down every mac on the network > > there's only 1 mac btw. > > > set seed information in atalkd.conf (choose a suitable zone name and a > > network range of something like 10-20) > > where do i get a zone name?? do i have to make one somewhere? if so, > where? > > -Cygnus > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer > .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. > "The only way to predict the future, is to invent it." > .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. > admin@intergrafix.net cygnus@ncohafmuta.com > http://cygnus.ncohafmuta.com/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, System Administrator wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm trying desperatly to get netatalk to work so a mac workstation can > > > access our linux webserver (cygnus.intergrafix.net) files. However, it is > > > being very difficult. I have tried both the .rpm and .tar.gz versions of > > > netatalk with the same results on bootup. I'll try to give you as much > > > detail as possible. > > > > > > If i let atalkd make my atalkd.conf, on bootup I get: > > > starting appletalk daemons:Net (0) not in net-range (65280-65534) > > > atalkdbind: Cannot assign requested address > > > bind: Cannot assign requested address > > > > > > And in /var/log/messages: > > > papd[648]: restart (1.4b2) > > > afpd[650]: main: atp_open: Cannot assign requested address > > > > > > If I put nothing in the atalkd.conf, on bootup I get: > > > starting appletalk daemons: atalkd, > > > nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out > > > Can't register cygnus:Workstation@* > > > nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out > > > Can't register cygnus:netatalk@* > > > nbprgstr papd afpd > > > > > > And in /var/log/messages: > > > atalkd[660]: restart (1.4b2) > > > atalkd[660]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 > > > last message repeated 2 times > > > atalkd[660]: as_timer multiple interfaces, no seed > > > atalkd[660]: as_timer can't configure eth0 > > > atalkd[660]: as_timer waiting for router > > > atalkd[660]: ready 0/0/0 > > > papd[672]: restart (1.4b2) > > > afpd[674]: Can't register cygnus:AFPServer@* > > > > > > Then my ethernet card (onboard Intel EtherExpress Pro 100) goes nuts with > > > eth0: Tx timeout: Transmit timed out > > > eth0: Trying to restart the transmitter... > > > > > > My ethernet is on eth0 and i'm using ip aliasing for virtual domains, so i > > > have eth0:1 eth0:2 eth0:3, etc.. > > > > > > 'ifconfig eth0' reports > > > eth0 Link encap: 10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:C9:60:50:0A > > > inet addr: 206.245.154.68 Bcast:206.245.154.127 Mask:255.255.255.192 > > > EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:65280/160 > > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU: 1500 Metric: 1 > > > > > > RX packets: etc, etc.. > > > TX packets: etc, etc.. > > > Interrupt: etc, etc.. > > > > > > PLEASE help if possible. Thanx. > > > > > > -Cygnus > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer > > > .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. > > > "The only way to predict the future, is to invent it." > > > .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. > > > admin@intergrafix.net cygnus@ncohafmuta.com > > > http://cygnus.ncohafmuta.com/ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > -- > > Alistair Riddell - BOFH > > IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh > > Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 > > > -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 28 05:24:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA24224 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:24:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA24216 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:24:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA08195; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:22:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA08193 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:22:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk (lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.120.6]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA08171 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:22:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from dis.strath.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/2.0A) with ESMTP id KAA18528 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:24:05 GMT To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk1.4b2+asun2.0a18 on Solaris 2.5.1 with new streams? In-reply-to: My message of "Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:47:26 GMT." Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:24:04 +0000 Message-ID: <18526.885983044@dis.strath.ac.uk> From: Duncan Sinclair Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Duncan Sinclair writes: >Hi Folks, Hi, I asked about getting Adrian's patches working with Solaris 2.5.1, with the new streams module. Various people said "me too", but it was Adrian himself who provided the answer... The problem was... >Specifically, >atalkd hangs starting up, and I get this message in my kernel log: > > Jan 27 13:21:01 scarlet unix: netatalk 971027 > Jan 27 13:21:01 scarlet unix: NOTICE: tpi_wput M_PCPROTO 0x9 > >Digging around it's easy to find where this error message is generated, >but I haven't a clue what it all means. Digging around further I find that the "0x9" message is: [[ except from sys/tihdr.h /* * Primitives that are initiated by the transport user. */ #define T_CONN_REQ 0 /* connection request */ #define T_CONN_RES 1 /* connection response */ #define T_DISCON_REQ 2 /* disconnect request */ #define T_DATA_REQ 3 /* data request */ #define T_EXDATA_REQ 4 /* expedited data request */ #define T_INFO_REQ 5 /* information request */ #define T_BIND_REQ 6 /* bind request */ #define T_UNBIND_REQ 7 /* unbind request */ #define T_UNITDATA_REQ 8 /* unitdata request */ #define T_OPTMGMT_REQ 9 /* manage options req */ #define T_ORDREL_REQ 10 /* orderly release req */ ]] T_OPTMGMT_REQ - "manage options req". Adrian suggested I comment out the setsockopt(,,SO_BROADCAST,,) call in etc/atalkd/main.c. Now it seems to me that "T_OPTMGMT_REQ" might just correstpond to a call to setsockopt(). Anyway, commenting it out seems to have done the trick. At least, it's all running. I havn't been able to test all of Adrian's new features yet. Does anyone (Adrian?) know what I'm losing by zapping the setsockopt? Hope this helps someone... And maybe whenever 1.4b3 hits the streets all these problems will be solved? Cheers, Duncan. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 28 05:39:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA24991 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:39:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA24984 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:39:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id FAA21833; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:40:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id FAA21831 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:40:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from lri.lri.fr (lri.lri.fr [129.175.15.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA21801 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 05:40:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from sun-bd.lri.fr (sun-bd.lri.fr [129.175.4.4]) by lri.lri.fr (8.8.5/jtpda-5.2) with ESMTP id LAA11986 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:39:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun-bd by sun-bd.lri.fr (8.8.4/local) with ESMTP id LAA07151 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:38:26 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199801281038.LAA07151@sun-bd.lri.fr> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.6 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:38:26 +0100 From: bernier jerome Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu hi all i have 2 questions: has anyone got Netatalk1.4b2 to work on a Sun ultra under Solaris 2.6? and on a solaris system , if i want to print from a Mac via a papd spool, i must install lpr for solaris? thanks in advance jerome -- ***************************************************************************** __ ___ ____ / / / _ \ / / Bernier Jerome E-mail: bernier@lri.fr / /__/ _, /_/ / Support Systemes et Reseaux Tel:01.69.15.69.24 /____/_/ |_/___/ Laboratoire de recherche en Informatique, Bat. 490, Universite Paris Sud, 91405 ORSAY cedex, FRANCE. ***************************************************************************** From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 28 10:24:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA01496 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:24:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA01492 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:24:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA00124; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:25:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA29991 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:25:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from sal-cnc.me.wisc.edu (sal-cnc.me.wisc.edu [128.104.189.250]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA29955 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:25:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from sal-cnc.me.wisc.edu (sal-ctr.me.wisc.edu [128.104.189.249]) by sal-cnc.me.wisc.edu with ESMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id JAA29398 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:24:05 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <34CF4F1B.CD133D15@sal-cnc.me.wisc.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:30:35 -0600 From: "Jeffrey A. Chard" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.29 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Mac 2 Linux (LPRng) printing ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, I'm hoping someone can help me clear the last hurdle in printing from a Mac to a printer attached to an x86 machine running Linux. I've installed & configured NetaTalk. The file sharing shows up correctly as does my printer. I can "choose" the printer just fine, and output gets sent correctly. It then seems to get stuck in the Linux spool directory. A couple of ?fA* files show up, one of which (named dfA*) is very nice & proper PostScript which prints exactly as it should -- if I manually lpr it. I checked the system messages to find: Jan 25 14:31:08 sal-ctr papd[171]: child 310 for "SAL Color" from 7712.237 Jan 25 14:31:09 sal-ctr papd[310]: lp_conn_unix connect /dev/printer: No such file or directory Jan 25 14:31:09 sal-ctr papd[310]: lp_print: lp_conn_unix: No such file or directory Jan 25 14:31:09 sal-ctr papd[171]: child 310 done I tried the bright idea of linking /dev/printer to /dev/lp2, since that's the correct output port and was disappointed (if not terribly surprised) to find the following in the system messages log: Jan 25 15:15:27 sal-ctr papd[171]: child 370 for "SAL Color" from 7712.237 Jan 25 15:15:28 sal-ctr papd[370]: lp_conn_unix connect /dev/printer: Connection refused Jan 25 15:15:28 sal-ctr papd[370]: lp_print: lp_conn_unix: Connection refused Jan 25 15:15:28 sal-ctr papd[171]: child 370 done (independent of any permissions which happened to be set on /dev/lp2.) The Linux system is running Caldera OpenLinux Lite, kernel 2.0.29; the lpr system is LPRng; NetaTalk is 1.4b2. I did note in a HOW-TO (http://artoo.hitchcock.org/~flowerpt/projects/linux-netatalk/ghostscript.html), that you need to figure out where lpd is listening for connections, but I'm not quite sure how to determine that information. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.... Thanks! If, for whatever reason, the papd.conf is useful, it's: SAL Color@Engr_ME:\ :pr=sal_color:op=jac:pd=/usr/local/atalk/etc/EpsonStylusColor.PPD: SAL Laser@Engr_ME:\ :pr=me_sal:op=jac:pd=/usr/local/atalk/etc/LaserWriter_16_600.PPD: <><><><><><><><>------Message from Jeff Chard------<><><><><><><><><><> lab: 608-262-6582 http://www.cae.wisc.edu/~chard apt: 608-256-5997 chard@sal-cnc.me.wisc.edu <><><><><>-----knowledge is a journey, not a destination-----<><><><><> From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 28 10:48:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA02432 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:48:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA02426 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:48:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA27927; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:46:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA27891 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:46:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA27824 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:45:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17819; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:48:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from cec.mtu.edu (root@cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.196]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28882; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:48:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from abc.cec.mtu.edu (abc.cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.218]) by cec.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/mtumailer-1.2) with SMTP id KAA06513; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:48:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:47:50 -0500 (EST) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@abc.cec.mtu.edu To: "Jeffrey A. Chard" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Mac 2 Linux (LPRng) printing ? In-Reply-To: <34CF4F1B.CD133D15@sal-cnc.me.wisc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Jeffrey A. Chard wrote: > Jan 25 14:31:09 sal-ctr papd[310]: lp_conn_unix connect /dev/printer: No > such file or directory > Jan 25 14:31:09 sal-ctr papd[310]: lp_print: lp_conn_unix: No such file > or directory > Jan 25 14:31:09 sal-ctr papd[171]: child 310 done The notes on printing on my web page will help you, even though the page claims to be Solaris 2 specific. http://www.cec.mtu.edu/Doc/FAQ/netatalk.html I use LPRng myself, too. - edan -- Edan Idzerda System Administrator -- Michigan Technological University, Houghton MI USA From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 28 11:03:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA03231 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:03:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA03224 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:03:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA01738; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA01680 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:00:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id LAA01495 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:00:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from majink1.itc.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa00479; 28 Jan 98 11:02 EST Received: from majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU (majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU [128.143.12.118]) by majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA10851 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:02:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199801281602.LAA10851@majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:02:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert J. Marinchick" Reply-To: "Robert J. Marinchick" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Printing from Macs To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: s23sF6pzFyecfqVWXbzm1w== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4c sparc Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi Folks, I've gotten netatalk to print from unix devices, but am having trouble getting Macs to work. I get the following messages (in /usr/adm/messages): Jan 28 10:23:02 majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU papd[10820]: read_ppd .ppd: No such file or directory Jan 28 10:23:28 majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU papd[10820]: lp_conn_unix connect /dev/printer: No such file or directory Jan 28 10:23:28 majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU papd[10820]: lp_print: lp_conn_unix: No such file or directory my printcap looks like: lp|forest_l1| HP LaserJet 4, Forestry 135, ITC:\ :lp=/dev/null:mx#0:\ :lf=/usr/spool/print/forest_l1/lpd-errs:pw#80:sh:sf:\ :if=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filters/ifpap:\ :sd=/usr/spool/print/forest_l1: my /usr/local/atalk/etc/papd.conf looks like: forest_l1:\ :pr=lp: I'm following the directions as shown in "How to setup the printer using Appletalk" by Werner Eugster. Does anyone know what I'm leaving out? Thanks for your help. Bob Marinchick rjm8m@Virginia.Edu From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 28 11:26:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA04619 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:26:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA04611 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:25:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA12914; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:23:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA12911 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:23:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhub2.cc.columbia.edu (mailhub2.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.16]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA12906 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:23:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from [128.59.135.108] (amlai.wien.rhno.columbia.edu [128.59.135.108]) by mailhub2.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12950 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:25:51 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: aml61@amlai2.wien.rhno.columbia.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:25:51 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Albert Lai Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Q: Printing via netatalk to parallel prt on SS10 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I think that this sounds like the memory allocation in the Get Info for your Desktop PrintMonitor is too small. >This sounds very much like the behavior I get when trying to use a >printer driver on the Mac other than "LaserWriter 8." Specifically, >I have always wanted to use "HP Color LaserJet 5M" but whenever I print >with that driver... *tick*tick*tick*tick*. No dice. > >I've wrote on this issue before and I don't believe anyone has ever >responded. Though, I've never sat down to work it out either. > >- edan > >On Mon, 26 Jan 1998, Lukas Karrer wrote: > >> Whenever I want to Print from my mac (PPC 7200, OS 7.6 German), the Job >> gets accepted by Desktop Printing (The Icon changes to the 'busy-printer') >> >> and my mac just waits (status: print spooler processing job) (It does NOT >> hang however!) The Job can be deleted from the queue on my mac. >> >> After a few seconds, I get the entry in /var/adm/messages >> Jan 26 20:00:33 sokrates papd[184]: child 325 killed with 11 \\\|||/// | | ( @ @ ) ********************************************oooO****(_)****Oooo********* * Albert Lai SEAS Columbia University * * Wien Residential Computer Consultant * * e-mail: amlai@columbia.edu http://www.columbia.edu~aml61 * * aml61@columbia.edu http://amlai.wien.rhno.columbia.edu * * AOL: LaiAlbert@aol.com 5637 SW 38th St. * * 601/2 Wien Hall Topeka, KS 66610-1259 * * 411 West 116th St. Ph: (913)273-6780 * * New York, NY 10027-7201 .oooO * * Ph: (212)853-7575 ( ) Oooo. * *************************************************\ ( ( )************* \_) ) / (_/ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 28 11:45:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA05462 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:45:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA05457 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:45:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA13921; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:45:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA13041 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:43:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from athena.intergrafix.net (athena.intergrafix.net [206.245.154.69]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA12629 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:42:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (admin@localhost) by athena.intergrafix.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA02814; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:41:54 -0500 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:41:54 -0500 (EST) From: System Administrator To: Alistair Riddell cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] please help getting netatalk to work! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Shut down the mac, then do (as root) > > ifconfig eth0 -allmulti > > then put this in your atalkd.conf file: > > eth0 -phase 2 -net 10-20 -addr 10.5 -zone "Twilight Zone" > > After putting that in your atalkd.conf file, start netatalk, and see if > you get any different results. Now i get in my syslog: atalkd[640]: restart (1.4b2) atalkd[640]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 last messages repeated 2 times atalkd[640]: config for no router atalkd[640]: ready 0/0/0 kernel: eth0: Transmit timed out kernel: eth0: TX timed out papd[651]: restart (1.4b2) afpd[653]: cygnus:AFPServer@# started on 11:34:00 (1.4b2) that stupid eth0 keeps timing out, therefore can't get any data in or out on the network. Stupid kernel net driver. And i can't change the network card because it's on-board. -Cygnus --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-.._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. "The only way to predict the future, is to invent it." .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. admin@intergrafix.net cygnus@ncohafmuta.com http://cygnus.ncohafmuta.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Alistair Riddell wrote: > Shut down the mac, then do (as root) > > ifconfig eth0 -allmulti > > then put this in your atalkd.conf file: > > eth0 -phase 2 -net 10-20 -addr 10.5 -zone "Twilight Zone" > > After putting that in your atalkd.conf file, start netatalk, and see if > you get any different results. > > On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, System Administrator wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Are there any other AppleTalk routers on your network? > > > > any OTHER? if you consider the linux box a router, then no, no others. > > our cisco 2501 router doesn't have any appletalk on it. (both the linux > > server and mac plug into the ethernet switch, so the cisco is out of the > > picture) > > > > > shut down every mac on the network > > > > there's only 1 mac btw. > > > > > set seed information in atalkd.conf (choose a suitable zone name and a > > > network range of something like 10-20) > > > > where do i get a zone name?? do i have to make one somewhere? if so, > > where? > > > > -Cygnus > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer > > .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. > > "The only way to predict the future, is to invent it." > > .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. > > admin@intergrafix.net cygnus@ncohafmuta.com > > http://cygnus.ncohafmuta.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, System Administrator wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I'm trying desperatly to get netatalk to work so a mac workstation can > > > > access our linux webserver (cygnus.intergrafix.net) files. However, it is > > > > being very difficult. I have tried both the .rpm and .tar.gz versions of > > > > netatalk with the same results on bootup. I'll try to give you as much > > > > detail as possible. > > > > > > > > If i let atalkd make my atalkd.conf, on bootup I get: > > > > starting appletalk daemons:Net (0) not in net-range (65280-65534) > > > > atalkdbind: Cannot assign requested address > > > > bind: Cannot assign requested address > > > > > > > > And in /var/log/messages: > > > > papd[648]: restart (1.4b2) > > > > afpd[650]: main: atp_open: Cannot assign requested address > > > > > > > > If I put nothing in the atalkd.conf, on bootup I get: > > > > starting appletalk daemons: atalkd, > > > > nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out > > > > Can't register cygnus:Workstation@* > > > > nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out > > > > Can't register cygnus:netatalk@* > > > > nbprgstr papd afpd > > > > > > > > And in /var/log/messages: > > > > atalkd[660]: restart (1.4b2) > > > > atalkd[660]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 > > > > last message repeated 2 times > > > > atalkd[660]: as_timer multiple interfaces, no seed > > > > atalkd[660]: as_timer can't configure eth0 > > > > atalkd[660]: as_timer waiting for router > > > > atalkd[660]: ready 0/0/0 > > > > papd[672]: restart (1.4b2) > > > > afpd[674]: Can't register cygnus:AFPServer@* > > > > > > > > Then my ethernet card (onboard Intel EtherExpress Pro 100) goes nuts with > > > > eth0: Tx timeout: Transmit timed out > > > > eth0: Trying to restart the transmitter... > > > > > > > > My ethernet is on eth0 and i'm using ip aliasing for virtual domains, so i > > > > have eth0:1 eth0:2 eth0:3, etc.. > > > > > > > > 'ifconfig eth0' reports > > > > eth0 Link encap: 10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:C9:60:50:0A > > > > inet addr: 206.245.154.68 Bcast:206.245.154.127 Mask:255.255.255.192 > > > > EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:65280/160 > > > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU: 1500 Metric: 1 > > > > > > > > RX packets: etc, etc.. > > > > TX packets: etc, etc.. > > > > Interrupt: etc, etc.. > > > > > > > > PLEASE help if possible. Thanx. > > > > > > > > -Cygnus > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer > > > > .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. > > > > "The only way to predict the future, is to invent it." > > > > .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. > > > > admin@intergrafix.net cygnus@ncohafmuta.com > > > > http://cygnus.ncohafmuta.com/ > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Alistair Riddell - BOFH > > > IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh > > > Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 > > > > > > > -- > Alistair Riddell - BOFH > IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh > Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 > From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 28 15:27:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA15155 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:27:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA15149 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:27:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA29573; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:25:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA28925 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:24:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA28230 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:22:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA126729; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 12:26:47 -0800 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 12:26:47 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: "Robert J. Marinchick" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Printing from Macs In-Reply-To: <199801281602.LAA10851@majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Robert J. Marinchick wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I've gotten netatalk to print from unix devices, but am having trouble getting > Macs to work. I get the following messages (in /usr/adm/messages): > > Jan 28 10:23:02 majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU papd[10820]: read_ppd .ppd: No such > file or directory > Jan 28 10:23:28 majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU papd[10820]: lp_conn_unix connect > /dev/printer: No such file or directory > Jan 28 10:23:28 majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU papd[10820]: lp_print: lp_conn_unix: No > such file or directory > > my printcap looks like: > > lp|forest_l1| HP LaserJet 4, Forestry 135, ITC:\ > :lp=/dev/null:mx#0:\ > :lf=/usr/spool/print/forest_l1/lpd-errs:pw#80:sh:sf:\ > :if=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filters/ifpap:\ > :sd=/usr/spool/print/forest_l1: > > my /usr/local/atalk/etc/papd.conf looks like: > > forest_l1:\ > :pr=lp: > > I'm following the directions as shown in "How to setup the printer using > Appletalk" by Werner Eugster. > > Does anyone know what I'm leaving out? The messages say it all. For papd, you don't have a .ppd file (a file which tells the macs what the postscript printer can do). Also, papd is trying to talk to the print spooler via /dev/printer, which doesn't seem to exist. I think (but am not sure) that pr=|lpr -Pprintername will work. Also, why are you having the macs print to a printer queue which points to an Appletalk printer? Why not just have them print directly? Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 28 15:43:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA16000 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:43:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA15979 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:43:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA05991; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:41:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA05381 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:39:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA04835 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:38:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA119843; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 12:42:29 -0800 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 12:42:29 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund Reply-To: Bill Studenmund To: Amitai Schlair cc: Netatalk-Admins Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: AppleTalk routing In-Reply-To: <1d30kkc.5ycl62144slcM@[10.0.2.16]> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Amitai Schlair wrote: > I wrote: > > > I'm running Netatalk 1.4b2 (with Arthur Sun's patches) on NetBSD 1.3, > > and I'm trying to get AppleTalk routing, as described in atalkd(8), > > working. I've got AppleShare IP on ae2 (accessible to the LAN), and I'd > > like my Mac (connected to ae1) to be able to access AppleShare resources > > on the outside network, as well as those on the NetBSD box. Is this > > possible? If so, how do I configure ae1 in atalkd.conf? (Letting atalkd > > auto-configure the interfaces on startup didn't work well at all.) > > Despite my total lack of experience with and understanding of AppleTalk > internals, I managed to hack my way partly there. From my Mac (connected > to ae1), I can now see all the zones on the LAN (connected to ae2). > However, the only AppleShare volume I can see in the Chooser (or any > AppleTalk service for that matter) is the one on my NetBSD box. I'd like > to be able to see all the AppleShare volumes out there on the LAN, if > possible. > > My atalkd.conf: > > ae2 -phase 2 -net 25-50 -addr 25.33 -zone "CWRUnet" -zone "Chemistry" > -zone "Housing" -zone "Statistics" -zone "neurosciences" -zone "WSOM" > -zone "Smith Lab" -zone "Physics" -zone "Neutral" -zone "Net Services" > -zone "Music" -zone "MSASS" -zone "Medicine" -zone "Math" -zone > "Libraries" -zone "Health Sci" -zone "ESS" -zone "Engr" -zone "EEAP" > -zone "CIT" -zone "CP&P" -zone "CNS Internal" -zone "CIM" -zone "CES" > -zone "BRB" -zone "BIOMED" -zone "Arts & Sci" -zone "Archives" -zone > "AIS" -zone "Administration" -zone "South Residences" -zone "North > Residences" -zone "Medlab" -zone "Meds" -zone "Asian Studies" -zone "INS > Internal" > ae1 -phase 2 -net 51-75 -addr 51.33 > > The AppleTalk Phase II network range for the LAN, as described in the > network docs, is 25-50. "CWRUnet" is the default zone; I have my AFP > service running in "North Residences". (My connection to the LAN on ae2 > works great.) The bit of hackery I did to get on the AppleTalk network, > sort of, was to set the netrange on ae1 in atalkd.conf to 51-75 > (wrong?), and manually set the network and node in the Mac's AppleTalk > control panel to some reasonable numbers. Are ALL of these zones available on the same wire?? If you go to the Network (not OpenTransport) or the AppleTalk (OpenTransport) Control panel, do you see all of these zones? > Despite my inexperience, I'm pretty sure my ae1 netrange setting is why > I can't see the machines on the LAN... but I can't get anything at all > when I set it properly (25-50). 25-50 is NOT right! Each wire, like your internal net, should have its own netowrk number, or net range. Node numbers (net.node) are address like IP addresses (except they are randomly choosable and don't scale to world sizes). So your internal wire will have to have its own number, so the other computers can have a chance of talking to you. I'd suggest a netrange of just one number (say 51). You can get upwards of 250 nodes per net, so you don't really need 25 of them. :-) > I'm also getting a lot of messages on the console: > > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CIT exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CIT exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CWRUnet exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CWRUnet exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast EEAPo exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast EEAPo exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CWRUnet exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CWRUnet exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast EEAPo exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast EEAPo exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CWRUnet exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast CWRUnet exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast EEAPo exists > Jan 17 20:27:08 b60735 atalkd[224]: zone_bcast EEAPo exists > > and so on. I hope I'm not making an AppleStorm on the LAN! How can I fix > all this to work properly? As Stefan said, talk to your admins. For this to work, the other routers on campus have to know about your net number. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 28 16:14:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA17506 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:14:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA17501 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:14:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA20919; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:12:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA20824 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:12:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA20770 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:11:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA117400; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 13:15:54 -0800 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 13:15:54 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: Julian Elischer cc: Netatalk-Admins Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: AppleTalk routing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Julian Elischer wrote: > I'm not convinced that atalk on FreeBSD routes. > NetBSD was based off the freeBSD port I did. > so I'm not sure it works.. > I also made some changes in FreeBSD that were not copied (to my knowledge) > to NetBSD. > > the best bet is to read teh source :) Julian, What are these changes? Could you send them to me? I bet you're right that the forwarding might not work right. It's one of the things I want to look at next time I go mucking in the netatalk code. I think you have all the changes we've made. The only outstanding things, which come from OpenBSD, are adding an extra test in at_aarpinput to make sure we ignore aarp responses from a broadcast address and a pullup on the packet in ddp_output (for aligning packets forwarded from a phase 1 net to a phase 2 net). I'm running the broadcast catch, and I've not seen the message. When I asked Jason Thorpe about the pullup, he didn't seem to think we needed it. The things I want to add are: use of NetBSD's new macros for getting the head and next item of TAILQ's, and LocalTalk support. FreeBSD and OpenBSD will certainly be welcome to all of these changes. Does FreeBSD have macros for getting at items in TAILQ's? I know it's not too hard to do, but stuff like aa->aa_ifa.ifa_list.tqe_next is bulky. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 28 16:31:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA18563 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA18557 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:31:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA27863; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:29:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA27270 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:27:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from zombywoof.usra.edu (1Cust20.max21.washington.dc.ms.uu.net [153.34.59.20]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA26767 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:26:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from usra.edu (cbeaudry@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zombywoof.usra.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA03347 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 15:25:24 -0500 Message-ID: <34CF9433.DEAB103A@usra.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:25:23 +0000 From: Carl Beaudry Reply-To: cbeaudry@usra.edu Organization: Universities Space Research Association X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Compiling poppassd under RedHat 4.2/5.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Has anyone here successfully compiled poppassd under either of the last two Redhat releases (either with or without shadow passwords.) I'm still getting the following error: poppassd.c: In function `chkPass': poppassd.c:803: warning: passing arg 1 of `strcmp' makes pointer from integer without a cast cc -o poppassd poppassd.o poppassd.o: In function `chkPass': poppassd.o(.text+0xa1b): undefined reference to `crypt' make: *** [poppassd] Error 1 which seems to be coming from the following function: int chkPass (char *user, char *pass, struct passwd *pw) { /* Compare the supplied password with the password file entry */ if (strcmp (crypt (pass, pw->pw_passwd), pw->pw_passwd) != 0) return (FAILURE); else return (SUCCESS); } Now it looks to me like strcmp is retuning an integer, which is as it should be. Am I missing something obvious here? --Carl From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 28 16:32:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA18690 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:32:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA18684 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:32:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA23660; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA23270 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:31:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA22716 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:30:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA124852; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 13:32:00 -0800 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 13:32:00 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: Julian Elischer cc: Netatalk-Admins Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: AppleTalk routing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Bill Studenmund wrote: Sorry for the noise. That response was supposed to be private. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 28 16:57:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA20298 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA20294 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:56:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA04875; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:56:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA04496 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:56:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA04305 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:55:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA117461; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 13:57:23 -0800 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 13:57:22 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: Carl Beaudry cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Compiling poppassd under RedHat 4.2/5.0 In-Reply-To: <34CF9433.DEAB103A@usra.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Carl Beaudry wrote: > Has anyone here successfully compiled poppassd under either of the last > two Redhat releases (either with or without shadow passwords.) > > I'm still getting the following error: > > poppassd.c: In function `chkPass': > poppassd.c:803: warning: passing arg 1 of `strcmp' makes > pointer from integer without a cast This says that the first parameter _to_ strcmp has a problem. I.e. crypt's not defined right. > cc -o poppassd poppassd.o > poppassd.o: In function `chkPass': > poppassd.o(.text+0xa1b): undefined reference to `crypt' This error also says crypt's not working right. > make: *** [poppassd] Error 1 > > which seems to be coming from the following function: > > int chkPass (char *user, char *pass, struct passwd *pw) > { > /* Compare the supplied password with the password file entry > */ > if (strcmp (crypt (pass, pw->pw_passwd), pw->pw_passwd) != 0) > return (FAILURE); > else > return (SUCCESS); > } > > Now it looks to me like strcmp is retuning an integer, which is as it > should be. Am I missing something obvious here? Is there a correct prototype to crypt? I'm not sure how to fix this under Linux.. Sorry. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 28 17:10:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA21586 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:10:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA21582 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:10:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA07053; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:11:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA06306 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:09:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from bucket.fks.lan (bendnet-gw.ees.com [199.2.205.245]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA05735 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:08:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from phluffy.fks.lan (myke@phluffy.fks.lan [10.0.0.2]) by bucket.fks.lan (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA01218; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:06:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:06:53 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.fks.lan To: Bill Studenmund cc: Carl Beaudry , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Compiling poppassd under RedHat 4.2/5.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu What does poppassd have to do with netatalk? - Mike From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 28 17:25:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA22615 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:25:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA22611 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:25:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA12757; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:26:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA12674 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:26:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from gate.pubserv.com ([208.130.167.4] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id RAA12198 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:24:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by gate.pubserv.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA17013 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:03:41 -0600 Received: from morgana.pubserv.com(204.253.233.11) by gate.pubserv.com via smap (V1.3) id sma017011; Wed Jan 28 16:03:28 1998 Received: from Mufasa.pubserv.com by morgana.pubserv.com with SMTP id AA04599 (5.64+/IDA-1.3.3 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu); Wed, 28 Jan 98 16:29:56 -0600 Received: from localhost (rich@localhost) by Mufasa.pubserv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA15193 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:29:55 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: Mufasa.pubserv.com: rich owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:29:54 -0600 (CST) From: Richard Mann X-Sender: rich@Mufasa.pubserv.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] changing the default icon Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu We are running netatalk-1.3.3st-6 (Stelias mod.) as part of InfoMagic's WorkGroup Server. I should know better than to post before lurking, but I didn't see my question addressed in the FAQ at U-Mich. How can I change the default file icon, i.e. the icon that shows up when there is no other resource fork available? (Anyone have a cool penguin icon for Linux ?) //\ --rich // \ // / \ Richard Mann -- Network Administrator // / / \ P u b l i c a t i o n S e r v i c e s, I n c. \\ / / / Champaign, Illinois, USA 61821 (217) 398-2060 x22 \\ / / \\ / \\/ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 28 17:31:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA23031 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:31:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA23022 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:31:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA20861; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:28:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA20837 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:28:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from zombywoof.usra.edu (1Cust20.max21.washington.dc.ms.uu.net [153.34.59.20]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA20788 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:28:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from usra.edu (cbeaudry@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zombywoof.usra.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA03480; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:27:47 -0500 Message-ID: <34CFA2D3.501A097@usra.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:27:47 +0000 From: Carl Beaudry Reply-To: cbeaudry@usra.edu Organization: Universities Space Research Association X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Holling CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Compiling poppassd under RedHat 4.2/5.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Mike Holling wrote: > What does poppassd have to do with netatalk? Nothing directly--except that it can be used to provide a graphical interface for changing passwords, which is of no small importance to sites using netatalk to support Macs without allowing telnet logins. And though it's possible to change people's shells to /bin/passwd (or somesuch), for a lot of sites, the ability to shut off telnet altogether is a useful security measure and I, for one, would love to see the Chooser's password changing command supported in some future iteration of netatalk and poppassd might be one way to accomplishing that since it already has some cgi support (wwwpass, etc.) and a reasonably well-known interface. So I'm sorry if this offends listdotpurists, but the C interface to password decryption is directly relevant to netatalk and so this seemed to be a reasonable use of bandwidth. --Carl From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jan 28 19:25:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA26023 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:25:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA26015 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:25:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA03455; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:25:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA03435 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:25:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA03422 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:24:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA116434; Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:26:36 -0800 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:26:35 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund Reply-To: Bill Studenmund To: Carl Beaudry cc: Mike Holling , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Compiling poppassd under RedHat 4.2/5.0 In-Reply-To: <34CFA2D3.501A097@usra.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Carl Beaudry wrote: > Mike Holling wrote: > > > What does poppassd have to do with netatalk? > > Nothing directly--except that it can be used to provide a graphical > interface for changing passwords, which is of no small importance to > sites using netatalk to support Macs without allowing telnet logins. > > And though it's possible to change people's shells to /bin/passwd (or > somesuch), for a lot of sites, the ability to shut off telnet altogether > is a useful security measure and I, for one, would love to see the > Chooser's password changing command supported in some future iteration > of netatalk and poppassd might be one way to accomplishing that since it > already has some cgi support (wwwpass, etc.) and a reasonably well-known > interface. The deal w/ the Chooser password changing is, AFAIK it only works w/ two-way scrambled authentication. The latter requires the server (afpd) know the plaintext password for the user. Stock unix authentication only knows the one-way encrypted password, making password determination require brute-force algorythms (encrypt a dictionary and see if the output matches the encrypted password). I think what the two-way scrambled authenticator that I've heard of does is keep an afpd password in the user's home directory, clear text, readable only by the user and root. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 29 08:21:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA01614 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:21:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA01610 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:21:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA17111; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:21:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA17091 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:21:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from prozac.eeap.cwru.edu (prozac.EEAP.CWRU.Edu [129.22.56.185]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA17052 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:21:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from wes@localhost) by prozac.eeap.cwru.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) id IAA08064; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:21:33 -0500 From: Wes Brown Message-Id: <199801291321.IAA08064@prozac.eeap.cwru.edu> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: AppleTalk routing To: skippy@macro.stanford.edu Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:21:33 -0500 (EST) Cc: amitai.schlair@usa.net, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: from "Bill Studenmund" at Jan 28, 98 12:42:29 pm X-URL: http://prozac.student.cwru.edu/wes/About.me.html X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, Amitai Schlair wrote: > Are ALL of these zones available on the same wire?? If you go to the > Network (not OpenTransport) or the AppleTalk (OpenTransport) Control > panel, do you see all of these zones? > > > Despite my inexperience, I'm pretty sure my ae1 netrange setting is why > > I can't see the machines on the LAN... but I can't get anything at all > > when I set it properly (25-50). > > 25-50 is NOT right! Each wire, like your internal net, should have its own > netowrk number, or net range. Node numbers (net.node) are address like IP > addresses (except they are randomly choosable and don't scale to world > sizes). So your internal wire will have to have its own number, so the > other computers can have a chance of talking to you. > > I'd suggest a netrange of just one number (say 51). You can get upwards of > 250 nodes per net, so you don't really need 25 of them. :-) Please note: The network range 25-50 is correct for this network. CWRUnet Appletalk connections are to be coordinated through the Router Coordinator and the Zone coordinator (both are zonemaster@po.cwru.edu) [clip] > As Stefan said, talk to your admins. For this to work, the other routers > on campus have to know about your net number. Wes --- Wes Brown ewb4@po.cwru.edu wes@prozac.cwru.edu http://prozac.cwru.edu/wes/About.me.html KB8TGR From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 29 11:35:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA07623 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:35:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA07619 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:35:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA01263; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:36:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA01201 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:36:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from listbox2.cern.ch (listbox2.cern.ch [137.138.24.200]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA01126 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:35:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from sunadm.cern.ch (sunadm.cern.ch [137.138.32.92]) by listbox2.cern.ch (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26047; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:34:39 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (reguero@localhost) by sunadm.cern.ch (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA14449; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:34:39 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: sunadm.cern.ch: reguero owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:34:38 +0100 (MET) From: Ignacio REGUERO X-Sender: reguero@sunadm Reply-To: Ignacio REGUERO To: System Administrator cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] please help getting netatalk to work! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, I believe that you have the same problem with Multicast on the EtherExpress Pro 100B that I had. Here follows a description of the problem and my solution. cheers ...Ignacio... On Mon, 26 Jan 1998, Ignacio REGUERO wrote: > > Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:58:53 +0100 (MET) > From: Ignacio REGUERO > To: linux-eepro100@cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov > Cc: David.Foster@cern.ch, Mike.Gerard@cern.ch > Subject: Re: Interface restarts > > Hello, > The timeouts in my case seem to be produced by delays introduced by the > calculation of the multicast filter so I have done a little modification > to the eepro100 driver like the following > > --------------------------------------------------------- > set_rx_mode(struct device *dev) > { > struct speedo_private *sp = (struct speedo_private *)dev->priv; > int ioaddr = dev->base_addr; > char new_rx_mode; > unsigned long flags; > int entry, i; > > if (dev->flags & IFF_PROMISC) { /* Set > promiscuous. */ > new_rx_mode = 3; > } else if (dev->flags & IFF_ALLMULTI) { > new_rx_mode = 1; > } else { > /* new_rx_mode = 0; */ > new_rx_mode = 1; /* Too many to filter perfectly -- > accept all multicasts. */ > } > --------------------------------------------------------- > > This sort of modification was suggested in a related case for Tulip boards > by Donald Becker (original mail follows). > > This is working fine for me but I wonder if there is a cleaner solution > for this multicast with Netatalk problem... > > Best Regards > > Ignacio Reguero: ignacio.reguero@cern.ch > CERN, European Laboratory for Particle Physics, > IT Division, CH-1211 Geneva 23. Switzerland. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Return-Path: > Received: from www2.w3-design.com (www2.w3-design.com [206.83.161.164]) > by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00419 > for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:04:53 -0800 > Received: from cesdis (new.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.38.51]) by > www2.w3-design.com > (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA13742 for ; Mon, 3 Nov > 1997 14 > :05:36 -0800 (PST) > Received: by cesdis (4.1/SMI-4.1) > id AA08204; Mon, 3 Nov 97 14:32:01 EST > Received: from beowulf.gsfc.nasa.gov by cesdis (4.1/SMI-4.1) > id AA08197; Mon, 3 Nov 97 14:31:48 EST > Received: by beowulf.gsfc.nasa.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) > id AA07101; Mon, 3 Nov 97 14:37:32 EST > Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:37:30 -0500 (EST) > From: Donald Becker > X-Sender: becker@beowulf > To: Jeff Wiegley > Cc: linux-tulip@cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov > Subject: Re: tulip multicast and netatalk? > In-Reply-To: <345E21DE.D0CC7212@w3-design.com> > Message-Id: > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Sender: owner-linux-tulip@cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov > Precedence: bulk > > On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Jeff Wiegley wrote: > > > Subject: tulip multicast and netatalk? > > > > Just having a little prroblem with netatalk and the netatalk people > > indicate that it is a tulip driver problem. > > Every single Linux driver that uses a multicast filter (as opposed to > Rx-all-multicast when any multicast packets are desired) seems to be > having > a problem with netatalk. > > Since they all use different multicast filter schemes, I'm starting to > think > it's a problem with netatalk, not a problem with my drivers. > > > I asked the question on the netatalk mailing list about why this is > > so and received this reply... > > > > > The caveat (for the DEC tulip based cards) is that the driver has > > > difficulties with multicast. Upgrade to a newer kernel, and/or upgrade > > > the tulip driver explicitly. Or you could force the card into > promiscuous > > > mode (not ideal or recommended, but it works). It's not that bad. > > Ask them about the EEPro100 driver then... it seems to have problems with > multicast as well. And it computes the multicast filter internally, so > the > driver could only pass a corrupt multicast address list. > > > Is this true? how do I fix it? I am using the > > > > "tulip.c:v0.83 10/19/97 becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov" > > > > driver version with kernel version 2.0.29+ISS patch. > > > > Other than that I can't quite figure out how to get promiscuous mode > > enabled and I can't figure out why this would be good/bad. > > A patch is to always turn on the Rx-all-multicast flag: > > In set_multicast_list(): > > printk(KERN_INFO "%s: Promiscuous mode enabled.\n", dev->name); > tp->csr6 |= 0xC0; > - } else if ((dev->mc_count > 1000) || (dev->flags & > IFF_ALLMULTI)) { > + } else if ((dev->mc_count > 0) || (dev->flags & IFF_ALLMULTI)) { > /* Too many to filter perfectly -- accept all multicasts. > */ > outl(csr6 | 0x0080, ioaddr + CSR6); > > This is evil, and wastes the *excellent* multicast filter of the Tulip, > but.. > > Donald Becker > becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov > USRA-CESDIS, Center of Excellence in Space Data and Information Sciences. > Code 930.5, Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, MD. 20771 > 301-286-0882 > http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/people/becker/whoiam.html > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Ignacio REGUERO wrote: > > > Hello, > > I am running RedHat 5.0 (Linux 2.0.32) which seems to include the latest > > version of the Intel EtherExpress Pro 100 driver (v0.36) and since I > > installed the Netatalk Appletalk support package I get restarts of the > > ethernet interface as follows: > > > > > > Jan 22 17:05:28 pcdisir atalkd[1877]: as_timer gateway 41088.28 down > > Jan 22 17:10:28 pcdisir atalkd[1877]: as_timer gateway 41088.28 down > > Jan 22 17:10:34 pcdisir kernel: eth0: Transmit timed out: status 0050 > > command 0000. > > Jan 22 17:10:34 pcdisir kernel: eth0: Tx timeout fill index 8419 > > scavenge index 8404. > > Jan 22 17:10:34 pcdisir kernel: Tx queue 0000a000 0000a000 400ca000 > > 0000a000 00000000 0000a000 0000a000 0000a000 0000a000 0000a000 0000a000 > > 0000a000 0000a000 0000a000 0000a000 0000a000. > > Jan 22 17:10:34 pcdisir kernel: Rx ring 00000003 c0000003 00000003 > > 00000003 00000003 00000003 00000003 00000003 00000003 00000003 00000003 > > 00000003 00000003 00000003 00000003 00000003. > > Jan 22 17:10:34 pcdisir kernel: eth0: Trying to restart the transmitter... > > > > > > It seems that the Appletalk traffic is creating some problem... > > > > Any idea? > > > > > > Thank you & Best Regards > > > > > > > > Ignacio Reguero: ignacio.reguero@cern.ch > > CERN, European Laboratory for Particle Physics, > > IT Division, CH-1211 Geneva 23. Switzerland. > > > > > > Ignacio Reguero: ignacio.reguero@cern.ch CERN, European Laboratory for Particle Physics, IT Division, CH-1211 Geneva 23. Switzerland. On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, System Administrator wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying desperatly to get netatalk to work so a mac workstation can > access our linux webserver (cygnus.intergrafix.net) files. However, it is > being very difficult. I have tried both the .rpm and .tar.gz versions of > netatalk with the same results on bootup. I'll try to give you as much > detail as possible. > > If i let atalkd make my atalkd.conf, on bootup I get: > starting appletalk daemons:Net (0) not in net-range (65280-65534) > atalkdbind: Cannot assign requested address > bind: Cannot assign requested address > > And in /var/log/messages: > papd[648]: restart (1.4b2) > afpd[650]: main: atp_open: Cannot assign requested address > > If I put nothing in the atalkd.conf, on bootup I get: > starting appletalk daemons: atalkd, > nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out > Can't register cygnus:Workstation@* > nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out > Can't register cygnus:netatalk@* > nbprgstr papd afpd > > And in /var/log/messages: > atalkd[660]: restart (1.4b2) > atalkd[660]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 > last message repeated 2 times > atalkd[660]: as_timer multiple interfaces, no seed > atalkd[660]: as_timer can't configure eth0 > atalkd[660]: as_timer waiting for router > atalkd[660]: ready 0/0/0 > papd[672]: restart (1.4b2) > afpd[674]: Can't register cygnus:AFPServer@* > > Then my ethernet card (onboard Intel EtherExpress Pro 100) goes nuts with > eth0: Tx timeout: Transmit timed out > eth0: Trying to restart the transmitter... > > My ethernet is on eth0 and i'm using ip aliasing for virtual domains, so i > have eth0:1 eth0:2 eth0:3, etc.. > > 'ifconfig eth0' reports > eth0 Link encap: 10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:C9:60:50:0A > inet addr: 206.245.154.68 Bcast:206.245.154.127 Mask:255.255.255.192 > EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:65280/160 > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU: 1500 Metric: 1 > > RX packets: etc, etc.. > TX packets: etc, etc.. > Interrupt: etc, etc.. > > PLEASE help if possible. Thanx. > > -Cygnus > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Anthony J. Biacco Network Administrator/Engineer > .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. > "The only way to predict the future, is to invent it." > .-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-._.-. > admin@intergrafix.net cygnus@ncohafmuta.com > http://cygnus.ncohafmuta.com/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 29 14:22:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA13572 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 14:22:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA13568 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 14:22:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA19064; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 14:22:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA19021 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 14:22:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA18998 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 14:22:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA128239; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:23:43 -0800 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:23:42 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund Reply-To: Bill Studenmund To: Wes Brown cc: amitai.schlair@usa.net, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: AppleTalk routing In-Reply-To: <199801291321.IAA08064@prozac.eeap.cwru.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Wes Brown wrote: > > > Despite my inexperience, I'm pretty sure my ae1 netrange setting is why > > > I can't see the machines on the LAN... but I can't get anything at all > > > when I set it properly (25-50). > > > > 25-50 is NOT right! Each wire, like your internal net, should have its own > > netowrk number, or net range. Node numbers (net.node) are address like IP > > addresses (except they are randomly choosable and don't scale to world > > sizes). So your internal wire will have to have its own number, so the > > other computers can have a chance of talking to you. > > > > I'd suggest a netrange of just one number (say 51). You can get upwards of > > 250 nodes per net, so you don't really need 25 of them. :-) > > Please note: The network range 25-50 is correct for this network. CWRUnet > Appletalk connections are to be coordinated through the Router Coordinator > and the Zone coordinator (both are zonemaster@po.cwru.edu) Uhm, I though ae1 was the internal net, the one hidden from the main net. 25-50 certainly would be right for the main net, but not for the internal one, as those are the numbers you have on the main net. Here's an excert from the message I was replying to: ae2 -phase 2 -net 25-50 -addr 25.33 -zone "CWRUnet" -zone "Chemistry" -zone "Housing" -zone "Statistics" -zone "neurosciences" -zone "WSOM" -zone "Smith Lab" -zone "Physics" -zone "Neutral" -zone "Net Services" -zone "Music" -zone "MSASS" -zone "Medicine" -zone "Math" -zone "Libraries" -zone "Health Sci" -zone "ESS" -zone "Engr" -zone "EEAP" -zone "CIT" -zone "CP&P" -zone "CNS Internal" -zone "CIM" -zone "CES" -zone "BRB" -zone "BIOMED" -zone "Arts & Sci" -zone "Archives" -zone "AIS" -zone "Administration" -zone "South Residences" -zone "North Residences" -zone "Medlab" -zone "Meds" -zone "Asian Studies" -zone "INS Internal" ae1 -phase 2 -net 51-75 -addr 51.33 Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 29 15:20:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA15722 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:20:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA15718 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:20:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA29362; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:18:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA29350 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:18:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from dura.spc.uchicago.edu (dura.spc.uchicago.edu [128.135.84.94]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA29333 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:18:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (pom2@localhost) by dura.spc.uchicago.edu (8.7.5/8.6.4) id OAA27240 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 14:20:54 -0600 (CST) From: Paul Pomerleau Message-Id: <199801292020.OAA27240@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk MacOS 7.6 problems To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 14:20:53 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23-upenn2.8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! I find that my MacOS 8 clients connect fine to my netatalk afpd, but 7.6 machines don't -- I get "no response from server". I'm using netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2. On RedHat-5.0 on a PPro. I see that other people have had the same problem, and a very intriguing answer came from Jochen Haeberle : >> I get the same message from time to time. I'm running netatalk 1.4b2 on >> Debian/GNU Linux which shares printers and volumes between macos (7.5.x, >> 7.6.{0,1}) and PC (win 3.1, 95, nt) users. >> >> After a few days/weeks running successfully, the linux box is still in >> their choosers but users cannot log in ("No response from server"). In > >I had this problem a while ago and found that it only happend when other >atalk-routers went down. Defining the exact zone-addresses in the netatalk >config solved the problem for me. ... cheers ... Jochen The problem is that I'm not sure what Jochen means. I used to have an empty atalkd.conf. I've added (hoping this is what he meant) one line: eth0 -phase 2 -addr 852.118 -zone "Psych" But this hasn't solved the problem. I've also tried eth0 -phase 2 -net 852-854 -addr 852.118 -zone "Psych" and eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 852-854 -addr 852.118 -zone "Psych" But again, no dice. In the first case, nothing changes, and in the second, the machine doesn't show up in the chooser at all. Is there some file I don't know about which talks about zones? Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Pomerleau Green 217 Director of Computing (773) 702-4830 Center for Computational Psychology pom2@ccp.uchicago.edu University of Chicago From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jan 29 15:33:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA16515 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:33:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA16491 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:33:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA12539; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:34:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA11662 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:32:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from gate.pubserv.com ([208.130.167.4] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id PAA11634 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:32:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by gate.pubserv.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA18887; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 14:11:10 -0600 Received: from morgana.pubserv.com(204.253.233.11) by gate.pubserv.com via smap (V1.3) id sma018885; Thu Jan 29 14:10:40 1998 Received: from Mufasa.pubserv.com by morgana.pubserv.com with SMTP id AA12445 (5.64+/IDA-1.3.3 for pom2@dura.spc.uchicago.edu); Thu, 29 Jan 98 14:37:17 -0600 Received: from localhost (rich@localhost) by Mufasa.pubserv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA25829; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 14:37:16 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: Mufasa.pubserv.com: rich owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 14:37:16 -0600 (CST) From: Richard Mann X-Sender: rich@Mufasa.pubserv.com To: Paul Pomerleau Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk MacOS 7.6 problems In-Reply-To: <199801292020.OAA27240@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Here's mine: eth0 -phase 2 -net 7 -addr 7.160 -zone "EtherTalk" Hence I would deduct yours would be eth0 -phase 2 -net 852 -addr 852.118 -zone "Psych" Just guessing, purely on what's in my atalk.conf file... //\ --rich // \ // / \ Richard Mann -- Network Administrator // / / \ P u b l i c a t i o n S e r v i c e s, I n c. \\ / / / Champaign, Illinois, USA 61821 (217) 398-2060 x22 \\ / / \\ / \\/ On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Paul Pomerleau wrote: > Hi! > > I find that my MacOS 8 clients connect fine to my netatalk afpd, > but 7.6 machines don't -- I get "no response from server". I'm using > netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2. On RedHat-5.0 on a PPro. > > I see that other people have had the same problem, and a very > intriguing answer came from Jochen Haeberle : > > >> I get the same message from time to time. I'm running netatalk 1.4b2 on > >> Debian/GNU Linux which shares printers and volumes between macos (7.5.x, > >> 7.6.{0,1}) and PC (win 3.1, 95, nt) users. > >> > >> After a few days/weeks running successfully, the linux box is still in > >> their choosers but users cannot log in ("No response from server"). In > > > >I had this problem a while ago and found that it only happend when other > >atalk-routers went down. Defining the exact zone-addresses in the netatalk > >config solved the problem for me. ... cheers ... Jochen > > The problem is that I'm not sure what Jochen means. > > I used to have an empty atalkd.conf. I've added (hoping this is > what he meant) one line: > > eth0 -phase 2 -addr 852.118 -zone "Psych" > > But this hasn't solved the problem. I've also tried > > eth0 -phase 2 -net 852-854 -addr 852.118 -zone "Psych" > > and > > eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 852-854 -addr 852.118 -zone "Psych" > > But again, no dice. In the first case, nothing changes, and in the > second, the machine doesn't show up in the chooser at all. > > Is there some file I don't know about which talks about zones? > > > Thanks! > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Paul Pomerleau Green 217 > Director of Computing (773) 702-4830 > Center for Computational Psychology pom2@ccp.uchicago.edu > University of Chicago > From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 30 03:32:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id DAA09295 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 03:32:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA09287 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 03:32:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA17815; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 03:32:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA17813 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 03:32:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from random.tpgi.com.au (random.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA17809 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 03:32:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by random.tpgi.com.au (8.8.4/8.8.6) id TAA15629 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 19:32:14 +1100 (EST) Received: from tar-ppp-183.tpgi.com.au(203.26.26.183), claiming to be "gretchen" via SMTP by random.tpgi.com.au, id smtpdAAAa003o5; Fri Jan 30 19:32:08 1998 From: "Eddie Irvine" To: "Netatalk-Admins" Subject: [netatalk-admins] AppleTalk - Unix Crashes it! Help!! Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 19:33:30 +1100 Message-ID: <01bd2d59$beb7d5a0$LocalHost@gretchen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all. Not certain this is the correct newgroup to post this to but here goes. At a high school where we work we have a Mac 6150 file server running Apple server software v 5.0, and At Ease for networks. This software runs a combination of TCP and AppleTalk. There are 32 macs on a single ethernet network with 3 hubs daisy chained, a FreeBSD Apache / Squid server on a generic PC. The PC has a NE2000 clone card. When the network is busy and a few kids start browsing, the AppleTalk part of the Mac file server quietly stops. Running a ping from the Mac (post - AppleTalk stop) shows no other apple talk devices EXCEPT ITSELF. It does, however, ping the other TCP/IP devices - that is, the IP addresses of the other Macs. Running an appletalk ping on a client mac shows all other macs, apart from the file server. I did have netatalk on the FreeBSD box, but have commented out the start-up script (in /usr/local/etc/rc.d ) and thus netatalk no longer runs - so I presume that can't be the problem. I have also tried to reduce the mtu size on the FBSD box down to 500 using ifconfig. In summary, the AppleTalk part of the Mac Fileserver, but NOT the IP part, quietly stops working when a) the network is busy with apple talk packets, and b) the Mac Fileserver sees IP traffic as well. Both (a) and (b) must happen concurrently. I have checked the bug pages at Apple and can't seem to find anything. Help! Eddie. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 30 06:16:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA26664 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:16:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA26660 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:16:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA01655; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:16:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA01653 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:16:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from pagesz.net (nina.pagesz.net [208.194.157.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA01649 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:16:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (alaska.pagesz.net [208.194.157.249]) by pagesz.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id GAA15940; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:12:54 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <199801281602.LAA10851@majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 06:12:47 -0500 To: Bill Studenmund , "Robert J. Marinchick" From: Jesse Swensen Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Printing from Macs Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 12:26 PM -0800 1/28/98, Bill Studenmund wrote: >Also, why are you having the macs print to a printer queue which points to >an Appletalk printer? Why not just have them print directly? I have watched several threads that have hinted at the Macs printing directly to the printer, but have not found specific instructions. The several Mini HOWTOs and FAQs I have read all have the linux box spooling the print job and running it through ghostscript. I have this type of setup and it is running OK. I do have problems every now and then with postscript error and feel it would be better to let the DeskJet driver send the print job rather than the LaserWriter driver. Currently the PC can print direct, so why not the Mac. My set up is as follows: Mac, PC, Linux. All are on ethernet. DeskJet 855c connected to the Linux box on the parallel port. If there is a set of instruction that would be great... Thanks, Jesse From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jan 30 09:18:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA29557 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:18:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA29553 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:18:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA11015; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:15:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA11004 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:15:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from joseph.math.umt.edu (joseph.math.umt.edu [150.131.109.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA10990 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 09:15:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rkt@localhost) by joseph.math.umt.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA03282; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 07:27:33 -0700 Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 07:27:32 -0700 (MST) From: Dick Thompson To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Guest only ... Ultrix Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all, I have the good ole guests can get through, but normal user cannot. The setup is Ultrix 4.4 netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 First I checked that the /etc/shells file looked okay, which I think it did. Then I looked at the suggestions on the netatalk web page, and added -DSHADOWPW to the CFLAGS variable in the afpd makefile. When I add this flag, the make fails because it cannot find the file shadow.h. I don't seem to have this file on my Ultrix machine. If someone can give me a hint as to what I might be doing wrong, it will be much appreciated. I only want to use the AppleShare IP part of netatalk, so did not install the kernel patches. If that is my problem (although I looked quite closely at the code and saw no problems), please explain where the problem is. I can't change the kernel on this machine, so if that is the problem, I probably won't be able to use netatalk. Thanks to all for your time, Dick Richard K. Thompson (406) 243-4032 rkt@joseph.math.umt.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jan 31 12:06:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA28751 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 12:06:26 -0500 (EST) From: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA28729; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 12:06:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA28722 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 12:06:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA28715 for ; Sat, 31 Jan 1998 12:06:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199801311706.MAA28715@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] fw: Printing Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 12:06:05 -0500 X-Sender: epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ------- Forwarded Message Return-Path: lsebas@yahoo.com Received: from send1a.yahoomail.com (send1a.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.22]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id KAA00919 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:03:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19980130150252.19481.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com> Received: from [168.176.13.12] by send1a; Fri, 30 Jan 1998 07:02:51 PST Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 07:02:51 -0800 (PST) From: Juan Carlos "Martínez" Reply-To: lsebas@yahoo.com Subject: Printing To: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I´m using a PC computer as a application server for Macs and it work find except when I´m going to print. When I try to print the application die. Some one can help me?? Juan Carlos Martinez lsebas@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 1 04:50:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA21741 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 04:50:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA21737 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 04:50:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA06553; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 04:47:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA06551 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 04:47:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA06547 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 04:47:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Sun, 1 Feb 1998 10:50:23 +0100 Received: (from schwarz@localhost) by lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) id KAA19519 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 10:50:22 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199802010950.KAA19519@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Subject: [netatalk-admins] new binaries without booting? To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 10:50:22 +0100 (MET) From: Georg Schwarz Reply-To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is there a way on Linux (2.0.33) to start a netatalk server with newly=20 installed binaries without having to boot the machine? Just killing the old daemons and running rc.atalk does not seem to do the trick. Are there any lock file I should delete first? --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik Tel. +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ Sekr. PN 7-1, Hardenbergstr. 36, D-10623 Berlin IRC: kuroi From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 1 06:42:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA08505 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 06:42:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA08501 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 06:42:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA12356; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 06:38:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA12354 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 06:38:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA12350 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 06:38:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA04037; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 11:42:08 GMT Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 11:42:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Georg Schwarz cc: Netatalk Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] new binaries without booting? In-Reply-To: <199802010950.KAA19519@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu If you are using kernel modules then doing an rmmod appletalk does the trick. If not then you have to ifconfig down then ifconfig up each interface. On Sun, 1 Feb 1998, Georg Schwarz wrote: > Is there a way on Linux (2.0.33) to start a netatalk server with newly > installed binaries without having to boot the machine? Just killing the > old daemons and running rc.atalk does not seem to do the trick. > Are there any lock file I should delete first? -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 1 19:45:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA18252 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 19:45:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA18246 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 19:45:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA23716; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 19:41:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA23712 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 19:41:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from entoo.connect.com.au (entoo.connect.com.au [192.189.54.8]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA23708 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 19:41:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from phoenixmags.com.au (slmel52p13.ozemail.com.au [203.108.203.61]) by entoo.connect.com.au with ESMTP id LAA02826 (8.8.5/IDA-1.7 for ); Mon, 2 Feb 1998 11:45:15 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <34D51718.3ECA6947@phoenixmags.com.au> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 11:45:13 +1100 From: Jonathan Benson Organization: Phoenix Magazines X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] File Extension Mapping Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A666F0EDB9DF916AFC6A8691" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A666F0EDB9DF916AFC6A8691 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone have a slightly more complete listing that the one that comes with netatalk 1.4b2 that they might be able to either post to the mailing list or send me direct? I can build one over time, but I figured, why reproduce the effort if someone has already done it. What I'm after is support for some of the more common file formats. Eg. Microsoft Excel, Microsoft Word, Quark Express, etc. Thanks, Jonathan --------------A666F0EDB9DF916AFC6A8691 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Jonathan Benson Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Jonathan Benson n: Benson;Jonathan org: Phoenix Magazines adr: Level 1, 34 Eastern Road;;;South Melbourne;VIC;3205;Australia email;internet: phoenix@phoenixmags.com.au title: Mr tel;work: +61 3 9696 7200 tel;fax: +61 3 9696 8313 x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: TRUE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------A666F0EDB9DF916AFC6A8691-- From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 1 23:01:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id XAA23546 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 23:01:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA23542 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 23:01:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id XAA13074; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 23:02:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id XAA13063 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 23:02:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mojo.calyx.net (mojo.calyx.net [208.132.136.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id XAA13057 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 23:02:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199802020402.XAA13057@twins.rs.itd.umich.edu> Received: (qmail 13976 invoked from network); 2 Feb 1998 04:01:39 -0000 Received: from kwesi.calyx.net (208.132.136.100) by mojo.calyx.net with SMTP; 2 Feb 1998 04:01:39 -0000 X-Sender: nick@calyx.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sun, 01 Feb 1998 23:00:47 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Nicholas Merrill Subject: [netatalk-admins] File level auditing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi.. I am wondering if anybody has developed file level auditing sort of like you get with FTP, ie: Feb 1 20:16:59 mojo ftpd[11522]: STOR accesswatch-1_33_tar.gz Jan 30 21:53:05 mojo ftpd[22678]: DELE table2-5.jpg Nick ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nicholas Merrill 24 Hour pager: 917-381-0500 Voice: 212-965-0946 President / CEO http://www.calyx.net Fax : 212-292-7313 Calyx Internet Access 13-17 Laight St. NYC, NY 10013 Email: nick@calyx.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 2 17:27:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA10670 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 17:27:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA10661 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 17:27:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA15650; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 17:27:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA15618 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 17:26:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from Au.oro.net (Au.oro.net [198.68.62.48]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA15605 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 17:26:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from Au.oro.net (jcp-ip@smtp.oro.net [198.68.62.77]) by Au.oro.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA17023 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 14:26:55 -0800 Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 14:26:55 -0800 (PST) From: jc pryor Reply-To: jc pryor To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Hopefully a simple fix ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Well I solved this problem, thanks to some helpful pointers from others on this list... (and the winner of my gratitude award is... Marc Matteo Web Engineer, The Sacramento Bee - who recommended installing from source. Done! And Marc, may I take this opportunity to add that the Sacramento Bee is my favorite newspaper) > On 1/19/98, jc pryor wrote: > > >I'm trying to install netatalk on a linux box (486) that will serve as a > >local server for our 7 macs, and I'm stumped with failed dependencies > > > >(Redhat 4.2) > > > >[root@yserv RPMS]# rpm -i netatalk-1.4b2-lorax4.i386.rpm > >failed dependencies: > > /bin/sh is needed by netatalk-1.4b2-lorax4 > > libdl.so.2 is needed by netatalk-1.4b2-lorax4 > > libc.so.6 is needed by netatalk-1.4b2-lorax4 > > ld-linux.so.2 is needed by netatalk-1.4b2-lorax4 But now I got a new problem. Yserv isn't happy with my socket definitions for some reason. [root@yserv rc.d]# ./rc.atalk starting appletalk daemons:socket: Invalid argument atalkd nbprgstr papd afpd. Here's the relevant clipping from my services ... Did I do it right? rtmp 1/ddp # Routing Table Maint. Protocol nbp 2/ddp # Name Binding Protocol echo 4/ddp # AppleTalk Echo Protocol zip 6/ddp # Zone Information Protocol tcpmux 1/tcp # rfc-1078 echo 7/tcp echo 7/udp jc From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 2 18:45:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA14758 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 18:45:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA14754 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 18:45:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA17826; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 18:45:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA17805 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 18:45:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from galaxy.chez.com ([194.98.133.161]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA17753 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 18:45:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from nuances (Pop-Toulouse-99.easynet.fr [195.114.94.99]) by galaxy.chez.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA26213 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 00:43:49 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199802022343.AAA26213@galaxy.chez.com> From: "Thierry" To: Subject: [netatalk-admins] Guest only Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 00:45:07 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Running Netatalk 1.4b2 on kernel 2.0.30 (Slackware 3.4) with a NE2000 clone. I have no problem to connect from my macintosh (system 7.1) to Linux via Netatalk as Guest and tranfert files from Linux to macintosh but I cannot connect with any other login name. Any idea ? Thierry td@chez.com From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 2 18:55:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA15580 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 18:55:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA15562 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 18:55:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA12568; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 18:56:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA12560 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 18:56:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.advancenet.net (hermes.cu-online.com [205.198.248.82]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA12541 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 18:56:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.argus-systems.com (ranger.argus-systems.com [206.221.232.80]) by mail.advancenet.net (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA12892; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 17:57:38 -0600 Received: from localhost by mail.argus-systems.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA17027; Mon, 2 Feb 1998 17:54:15 -0600 Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 17:54:15 -0600 From: Andrew McNabb To: Thierry cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Guest only In-Reply-To: <199802022343.AAA26213@galaxy.chez.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is the ultimate Netatalk Frequently Asked Question. Try -DSHADOWPW On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, Thierry wrote: > Running Netatalk 1.4b2 on kernel 2.0.30 (Slackware 3.4) with a NE2000 > clone. > > I have no problem to connect from my macintosh (system 7.1) to Linux via > Netatalk as Guest and tranfert files from Linux to macintosh but I cannot > connect with any other login name. > > Any idea ? > > Thierry > td@chez.com > ---------------------------------------------- Andrew McNabb Argus Systems Group amcnabb@argus-systems.com ---------------------------------------------- I am an International Arms Trafficker!!!!! http://online.offshore.com.ai/arms-trafficker/ ---------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 3 03:27:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id DAA02754 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 03:27:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA02750 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 03:27:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA14530; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 03:23:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA14527 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 03:23:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from alice.stimpy.com (alice.stimpy.com [208.211.184.17]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA14517 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 03:23:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from stimpy.com (alice.stimpy.com [208.211.184.17]) by alice.stimpy.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA09226; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 00:16:26 -0800 Message-ID: <34D6D253.33405F56@stimpy.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 00:16:19 -0800 From: Walt Bigelow X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew McNabb CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Large Volume Support? again References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Andrew McNabb wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Tracy Peek wrote: > > > Hello Everyone On This List ... > > > > I have a problem I hope that can be solved ... I have installed a 9 gig > > drive in my > > server and have made two partitions of just of 4.0 gigs a piece. One for > > appleshare > > (netatalk) and one fro Samba (PC Support). If though a "df" shows only 21 > > percent > > used on the netatalk volume .. the mac client finder shows only 200 megs > > available. > > MacOS has some problems with large volumes. However, the problem depends > on the model of the computer. Certain types of Macs running 7.5.2 or > later will support any size of a hard drive (up to several terabytes). > However, anything else has an upper limit that is more restrictive: 4GB. > Any MacOS system before 7.5 can only support 2GB. > > Apple has several documents relating to this in the TIL: Sorry to bring this up yet again, but I have 2 PPC's one a 9500 and one a 7100, both running MacOs 8 (and after reading the apple support pages, aparently the machines can support up to 4TB.) I wound up with a problem in limits of drive size when I mount the netatalk server (Linux slackware 96/netatalk 1.4b2 with the mac os 8 fix). It reports 2gig where I actually have a 32GB raid array available on the file server. I have looked through the dist for a compile time option, but have found none. What is the trick to make it repor the ACTUAL size? Thanks again, Walt From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 3 08:36:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA22352 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 08:36:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA22347 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 08:36:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA25091; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 08:32:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA25084 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 08:32:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from davinci.anu.edu.au (davinci.anu.edu.au [150.203.45.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA25064 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 08:32:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from faceng.anu.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by davinci.anu.edu.au (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA08972 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 00:36:28 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <34D71D5B.AF9A930E@faceng.anu.edu.au> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 00:36:27 +1100 From: Robert Edwards Organization: Department of Engineering, ANU, Australia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4c) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] IP Encapsulation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am new to this list, although I have been successfully using netatalk on two Linux boxes at home for almost a year now. I am wondering if anyone can throw any wisdom towards a solution to providing IP encapsulation for a Mac laptop which only has a LocalTalk connection (connected to my Linux boxes through an Asante Ether*Print box). I understand that some LocalTalk to EtherTalk adaptors/routers provided a service or protocol called "KIP" (I don't know what it stands for). What I want is for one of my Linux boxes to do something similar, unpacking IP packets from AppleTalk Streams coming from MacTCP and then sending them on their way on the IP network. Anyone know of any software that will do something like that? Any other (cheap) solutions? Thanks for any help. Bob Edwards, Computer and Robotics Engineer, e-mail: bob@faceng.anu.edu.au Department of Engineering, phone: (+61) 2 6249 4090 Australian National University, fax: (+61) 2 6249 0506 Canberra, AUSTRALIA, 0200 mobile: (+61) 0416 166 761 WWW: http://spigot.anu.edu.au/people/bob/home.html From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 3 10:25:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA26341 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 10:25:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA26336 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 10:25:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA09233; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 10:21:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA09188 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 10:21:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.icompute.com ([209.46.51.194]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA09122 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 10:21:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from [209.46.51.196] by mailhost.icompute.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2); Tue, 3 Feb 1998 09:32:27 -0600 X-Sender: donlee_in@icompute.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 09:27:15 -0600 To: Walt Bigelow , Andrew McNabb From: donlee_nat@mailhost.icompute.com (Donald Lee) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Large Volume Support? again Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 2:16 AM 2/3/98, Walt Bigelow wrote: >Andrew McNabb wrote: >> >> On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Tracy Peek wrote: >> >> > Hello Everyone On This List ... >> > >> > I have a problem I hope that can be solved ... I have installed a 9 gig >> > drive in my >> > server and have made two partitions of just of 4.0 gigs a piece. One for >> > appleshare >> > (netatalk) and one fro Samba (PC Support). If though a "df" shows only 21 >> > percent >> > used on the netatalk volume .. the mac client finder shows only 200 megs >> > available. >> >> MacOS has some problems with large volumes. However, the problem depends >> on the model of the computer. Certain types of Macs running 7.5.2 or >> later will support any size of a hard drive (up to several terabytes). >> However, anything else has an upper limit that is more restrictive: 4GB. >> Any MacOS system before 7.5 can only support 2GB. >> >> Apple has several documents relating to this in the TIL: >Sorry to bring this up yet again, but I have 2 PPC's one a 9500 and one >a 7100, both running MacOs 8 (and after reading the apple support pages, >aparently the machines can support up to 4TB.) I wound up with a >problem in limits of drive size when I mount the netatalk server (Linux >slackware 96/netatalk 1.4b2 with the mac os 8 fix). It reports 2gig >where I actually have a 32GB raid array available on the file server. I >have looked through the dist for a compile time option, but have found >none. What is the trick to make it repor the ACTUAL size? > >Thanks again, >Walt I believe that this is a problem not with the software, but with the AFS protocol. As I recall, there are some limitations in the protocol that limit the reported size of disks to mod(realsize,2gig), so if your disk is 3 gig it reports 1 gig, etc. In the latest clients (shipped with MacOS8) I think it figures out on the client side that the size is over 2G and simply reports its max, but I don't know. This has been a point of discussion on some Apple server mail lists, and they;re working on it. This does not affect how big volumes can get and doesn't pose a problem in accessing the whole 32Gb, just in the reported free space/size. -dgl- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 3 12:45:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA02365 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:45:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA02360 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:45:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA07342; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:41:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA07277 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:41:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from schubert.promo.de (schubert.Promo.DE [194.45.188.65]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA07131 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:40:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from stefan.promo.de (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA24974; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 18:37:59 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 18:40:22 +0100 From: "Stefan Bethke" To: "Walt Bigelow" , "Andrew McNabb" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Large Volume Support? again Message-ID: <1766995.3095520022@stefan.promo.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry Demo (MacOS) [1.4.0a1, s/n Evaluation] X-Licensed-To: Unlicensed - for evaluation only MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --On Die, 3. Feb 1998 0:16 Uhr -0800 "Walt Bigelow" wrote: > Andrew McNabb wrote: > slackware 96/netatalk 1.4b2 with the mac os 8 fix). It reports 2gig > where I actually have a 32GB raid array available on the file server. I > have looked through the dist for a compile time option, but have found > none. What is the trick to make it repor the ACTUAL size? You have to understand the various parts involved: the AFP server (protocol), the AppleShare client, the External File System interface and the Finder. As of MacOS 8.0 the External File System interface does exchange volume information as an unsigned 32bit number (4 GB). This was upped from a signed 32bit in 7.6 (2 GB). This hasn't changed in 8.1, as I believe. netatalk 1.4b2 (with or without macos8 patch) only does AFP 2.1, which also limits the number to 32 bits (4 GB). Currently, netatalk only uses 31 bits. AFP 2.2 introduced new calls that use 64 bits (about 17,000,000 TB). AppleShare client 3.7.0 was the first to support AFP 2.2 (including afp-over-tcp aka AppleShare IP), but didn't take advantage of those 64 bit calls. 3.7.2 and above take advantage of the calls. The Finder (even in 8.1 I think) normally is limited to 4 GB. However, AppleShare Client 3.7.2 and above tweak the numbers so the Finder actually can display sizes of over 4 GB. (I'm not sure what the upper limit is.) Note that this has *nothing* to do with the ability of 7.6 and above to use *local* HFS/HFS+ volumes larger than 2 or 4 GB. So, what gives? If you want to see accurate volume information for volumes larger than 2 GB, use Adrian Sun's patches for AFP 2.2 support and AppleShare 3.7.2 or newer. Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-18 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 3 12:54:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA02872 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:54:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA02868 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA17904; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA17690 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:55:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from schubert.promo.de (schubert.Promo.DE [194.45.188.65]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA17481 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 12:55:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from stefan.promo.de (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA25049; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 18:46:00 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 18:48:23 +0100 From: "Stefan Bethke" To: "Robert Edwards" , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] IP Encapsulation Message-ID: <1795963.3095520503@stefan.promo.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry Demo (MacOS) [1.4.0a1, s/n Evaluation] X-Licensed-To: Unlicensed - for evaluation only MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --On Mit, 4. Feb 1998 0:36 Uhr +1100 "Robert Edwards" wrote: > I am wondering if anyone can throw any wisdom towards a solution to > providing IP encapsulation for a Mac laptop which only has a LocalTalk > connection (connected to my Linux boxes through an Asante Ether*Print box). > > I understand that some LocalTalk to EtherTalk adaptors/routers provided > a service or protocol called "KIP" (I don't know what it stands for). Kinetics IP. Nowadays called "MacIP". > What I want is for one of my Linux boxes to do something similar, > unpacking IP packets from AppleTalk Streams coming from MacTCP and then > sending them on their way on the IP network. Anyone know of any software > that will do something like that? Any other (cheap) solutions? If you were using FreeBSD, you could use macipgw. Unfortunatly, macipgw uses a special device of the FreeBSD kernel (the tun device) to send and receive IP packets, and it seems to me that Linux doesn't have a similiar facility (I'm not sure, I'm definitly no expert on Linux kernel features.) Nonetheless, take a look at http://www.promo.de/pub/people/stefan/netatalk/ or ftp://ftp.promo.de/pub/people/stefan/netatalk/ Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-18 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 3 13:15:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA04158 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 13:15:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA04152 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 13:15:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA04782; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 13:15:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA04761 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 13:15:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from infolive.ie (gateway.infolive.ie [193.120.120.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA04122 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 13:14:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from scope.ie ([10.0.0.20]) by gateway.infolive.ie with ESMTP id <20610>; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 16:53:42 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.71] by scope.ie with ESMTP (MailShare 1.0fc5); Tue, 3 Feb 1998 18:36:45 +0000 X-Sender: moran@10.0.0.20 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 18:16:36 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Tony Moran Subject: [netatalk-admins] DAT drive recommendations ? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I have a i86/IDE Linux-netatalk machine I need to do regular large backups on.. Can anyone recommend a good DAT drive that theyve had good experiences with hardware and running under Linux-wise ? Thanks, Tony. __________________________________________________ Tony Moran IT Manager Ph: (+353-1)-8303455 Scope Communications. Fax: (+353-1)-8300888 http://www.infolive.ie http://www.jobfinder.ie Ireland's online Jobs and IT resources Web Site - Check us out ! __________________________________________________ How to complain about Spam: http://weber.ucsd.edu/~pagre/spam.html From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 3 15:25:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA10814 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:25:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA10780 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:25:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA00995; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:25:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA00963 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:25:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from cimteg.cimtegration.com (cimteg.cimtegration.com [199.246.8.18]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA29680 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:22:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from cimteg.cimtegration.com (cimteg.cimtegration.com [199.246.8.18]) by cimteg.cimtegration.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/cimteg $Revision: 1.11 $) with SMTP id PAA03373 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:13:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:13:49 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Mansell To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Xinet/Helios -> NetAtalk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Has anyone had experience with converting from Xinet K-Ashare or Helios EtherShare to NetAtalk?? Any scripts or programs out there to do this? We plan to offer UNIX-Apple solutions to a few companies, using netatalk (because of the price :), and I'm not relishing the job of changing all the directory structures and volumes formats... help? -- /\ Michael G. Mansell, BSc. (SCS) Office: (416) 665-0767 x228 /\ \ Engineering Support Services clearNET:(416) 984-7839 /\ \ \ DataVation Inc., Toronto Fax: (416) 665-8285 / \ \ \ WWW.DataVation.COM Email: MikeM@DataVation.COM From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 3 15:42:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA12219 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:42:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA12210 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:42:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA08324; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:42:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA08295 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:42:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from gate.etsinc.com (etsisdn.etsinc.com [198.99.189.62]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA08178 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:42:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from webco.etsinc.com by gate.etsinc.com (8.8.7/gate.etsinc.com/01-06-97) id UAA08558; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:41:02 GMT Received: from webco.etsinc.com by webco.etsinc.com (8.6.11/Webco.etsinc.com/10-03-94) id PAA29445; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:35:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 15:35:46 -0500 (EST) From: Dwight Kelly To: Mike Mansell cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Xinet/Helios -> NetAtalk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 3 Feb 1998, Mike Mansell wrote: > Has anyone had experience with converting from Xinet K-Ashare or Helios > EtherShare to NetAtalk?? Any scripts or programs out there to do this? > We plan to offer UNIX-Apple solutions to a few companies, using netatalk > (because of the price :), and I'm not relishing the job of changing all > the directory structures and volumes formats... help? Use a macintosh to copy between the volumes or possibly use Xinet's KFS to mount the netatalk volume and copy the contents. --- Essential Technical Services, Inc. 315 Allen Street Cumming, GA 30130 voice:(770) 889-2848 fax:(770) 889-2624 Internet:dkelly@etsinc.com http://www.etsinc.com From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 3 20:08:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA22154 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:08:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA22150 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:08:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA23808; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:04:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA23801 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:04:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from yangtze.eng.delgroup.com (yangtze.eng.delgroup.com [198.135.110.10]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA23796 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:04:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from eng.delgroup.com (wissahickon.eng.delgroup.com [10.88.8.3]) by yangtze.eng.delgroup.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA11038 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:06:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34D7BF3D.B912269@eng.delgroup.com> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 20:07:09 -0500 From: "Jonathan R. Wilner" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Slow Performance with Photoshop 4.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Using Netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.6 (Sparc/Ultra30) w/all the patches, I have really poor performance browsing directories from Adobe Photoshop 4.0, but not with any other application. Photoshop takes 15+ minutes to return a list of files in my home directory vs < 15 seconds for any other program. Additionally, the Solaris machine reports afpd running > 15 % of CPU., which is really unusual. Once it returns the list, performance is fine, but clearly there is a problem. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? Is it due to some sort of thumbnail generation? Thanks in advance. -- Jonathan Wilner Delaware Investment Advisers Philadelphia, PA jonathan.wilner@eng.delgroup.com From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 3 21:49:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA25509 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:49:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA25504 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:49:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA21226; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:45:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA21217 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:45:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA21208 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 21:45:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt1-89.HiWAAY.net [208.147.147.89]) by fly.HiWAAY.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA29322; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:49:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA02034; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:07:57 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199802040207.UAA02034@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Tony Moran cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] DAT drive recommendations ? In-reply-to: Message from Tony Moran of "Tue, 03 Feb 1998 18:16:36 GMT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 20:07:57 -0600 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Tony Moran writes: > > Hi, I have a i86/IDE Linux-netatalk machine I need to > do regular large backups on.. > > Can anyone recommend a good DAT drive that theyve > had good experiences with hardware and running under > Linux-wise ? Haven't run Linux in a long time but do a lot of FreeBSD, Irix, and Solaris. Seagate/Conner/Archive DDS/DAT are the most trouble free and most compatible drives I've used. The two WangDAT 3100's I had (one replaced the other under warranty) suggest that is one brand to stay away from. We have (3) Sony SDT5200's at work. Works perfectly with software that knows exactly what a Sony SDT5200 is (ie: Retrospect on a Mac). Limps along under Solaris and Irix with poor or no control of compression. Similar disaster using Seagate's Backup Exec under NT where Seagate 4mm OEM'd by SGI worked perfectly. Another endorsement of Seagate/Conner/Archive drives came the the morning I spend on the phone calling Seagate, Sony, and Exabyte, looking for a programmer's manual. Never got to the right person at Sony, was trying to figure out if a non-disclosure agreement was needed. Exabyte came right out with a part number and price of $55. Seagate quickly said, "you need number so-and-so, let me send you one." It was exactly what I was looking for. Now I personally own (5) Seagate DDS drives and (2) Archive QIC-9135 drives. http://www.basoncomputer.com was advertising an Archive 4326RP (I think it was, I'm offline right now) for $399. That's an older model of the current Seagate ST8000 (again I'm guessing the number from memory, not to be confused with their low end PC market toy-QIC 8000 drive). DDS-1 and DDS-2 (2G and 4G) plus compression (maybe 4G and 8G). I have 3 of these (purchased elsewhere). Looks like this to FreeBSD: % dmesg Copyright (c) 1992-1997 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE #0: Sat Dec 13 20:23:20 CST 1997 root@nospam.hiwaay.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/PPRO166 [...] (ahc0:5:0): "ARCHIVE Python 28388-XXX 4.CM" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(ahc0:5:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x13, drive empty (ahc0:6:0): "ARCHIVE ANCDA 2750 28077 -003" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st1(ahc0:6:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x0, drive empty The python is the DDS-2 drive, the ANCDA is my QIC-9130 Archive Anaconda. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 4 00:56:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id AAA07620 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 00:56:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA07616 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 00:56:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id AAA27794; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 00:56:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id AAA27155 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 00:54:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from cimteg.cimtegration.com (cimteg.cimtegration.com [199.246.8.18]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA26552 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 00:51:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from cimteg.cimtegration.com (cimteg.cimtegration.com [199.246.8.18]) by cimteg.cimtegration.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/cimteg $Revision: 1.11 $) with SMTP id AAA22116; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 00:42:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 00:42:24 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Mansell To: Dwight Kelly cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Xinet/Helios -> NetAtalk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > Has anyone had experience with converting from Xinet K-Ashare or Helios > > EtherShare to NetAtalk?? Any scripts or programs out there to do this? > > We plan to offer UNIX-Apple solutions to a few companies, using netatalk > > (because of the price :), and I'm not relishing the job of changing all > > the directory structures and volumes formats... help? > > Use a macintosh to copy between the volumes or possibly use Xinet's KFS to > mount the netatalk volume and copy the contents. Yes, that would be the easiest, but likely not the fastest. I'm dealing with near-line storage, and upwards of 500GB or more at times. I've seen on the Xinet www site that they have scripts to convert Helios->Xinet and CAP->Xinet, also using something called 'kunarc' in the process (something I'm not familiar with). I just want to go the other way with the least pain... renaming directorys shouldn't be a big problem, its all those .HSAncillary files and such. -- /\ Michael G. Mansell, BSc. 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From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 4 10:57:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA08878 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 10:57:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA08863 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 10:57:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA04664; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 10:53:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA04647 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 10:53:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from apollo.vicon.net (apollo.vicon.net [206.64.130.20]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA04595 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 10:53:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from pobox.com ([208.223.87.99]) by apollo.vicon.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25561 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 11:02:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34D88D65.FF80F150@pobox.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 10:46:45 -0500 From: Jason Belich Organization: The Lionhearted X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins Subject: [netatalk-admins] Off Subject, but... 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Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 10:46 Uhr -0500 04.02.1998, Jason Belich wrote: >I have been spammed by someone who, according to the headers, harvested >this list!!! Did anyone else get this spam??? > > [SNIP bla bla fortune bla bla $ 5 bla bla] I suppose everybody got it. this is the second time, SPAM was delivered thru this list in the last months. I do not understand, why postings are not restricted to members only. regards gregor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ----------- http://germanistik.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 4 16:34:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA20918 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 16:34:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA20914 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 16:34:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA01943; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 16:34:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA01929 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 16:34:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.advancenet.net (hermes.cu-online.com [205.198.248.82]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA01908 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 16:34:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.argus-systems.com (ranger.argus-systems.com [206.221.232.80]) by mail.advancenet.net (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA05499; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 15:36:49 -0600 Received: from localhost by mail.argus-systems.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA24399; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 15:33:28 -0600 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 15:33:28 -0600 From: Andrew McNabb To: Gregor Retti cc: Jason Belich , netatalk-admins Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Off Subject, but... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 4 Feb 1998, Gregor Retti wrote: > I suppose everybody got it. this is the second time, SPAM was delivered > thru this list in the last months. I do not understand, why postings are > not restricted to members only. > I'm not decided on whether or not postings should be restricted. The nice thing about it is that if someone is having a problem but doesn't want to subscribe to the list, they can simply write to the list and get help. Obviously the bad side is that people can abuse this and spam us. ---------------------------------------------- Andrew McNabb Argus Systems Group amcnabb@argus-systems.com ---------------------------------------------- I am an International Arms Trafficker!!!!! http://online.offshore.com.ai/arms-trafficker/ ---------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 5 02:25:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id CAA15018 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 02:25:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id CAA15014 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 02:25:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id CAA03751; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 02:21:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id CAA03745 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 02:21:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from server2.teknik.norrkoping.office.se (officen-025.norrkoping.office.se [195.198.238.25]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id CAA03734 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 02:21:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from wscl-95.lejonet.se (officen-160.norrkoping.office.se [195.198.238.160]) by server2.teknik.norrkoping.office.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA02022 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:03:11 GMT Message-ID: <34D96825.1AF9@teknik.norrkoping.office.se> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 08:20:05 +0100 From: Claes Lindvall Reply-To: cl@teknik.norrkoping.office.se Organization: Office Öst AB X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold [sv] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] wrong password Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! I have just installed netatlk 1.4b2 on my linux slakware 3.4, kernel 2.0.30. When I try to mount a volume through appleshare I cant log in. Wrong password, it says. Netatalk 1.42b doesn´t need a path for working with shadow passwords (I think), just add -DSHADOWPW in Makefile for afpd, under the CFLAGS-thing (am I right?), Compile it and replace the old afpd with the new one (am I right here too?). But still I´m not able to login as a user, just as guest. Greatful for some advise here. Claes Lindvall Sweden From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 5 05:31:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA02979 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 05:31:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA02975 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 05:31:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id FAA07399; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 05:32:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id FAA07393 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 05:32:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pagesz.net (nina.pagesz.net [208.194.157.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA07365 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 05:32:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (alaska.pagesz.net [208.194.157.249]) by pagesz.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id FAA07473; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 05:30:58 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 05:30:39 -0500 To: Bill Studenmund , "Robert J. Marinchick" From: Jesse Swensen Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Printing from Macs Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Let's try again.... At 12:26 PM -0800 1/28/98, Bill Studenmund wrote: >Also, why are you having the macs print to a printer queue which points to >an Appletalk printer? Why not just have them print directly? I have watched several threads that have hinted at the Macs printing directly to the printer, but have not found specific instructions. The several Mini HOWTOs and FAQs I have read all have the linux box spooling the print job and running it through ghostscript. I have this type of setup and it is running OK. I do have problems every now and then with postscript error and feel it would be better to let the DeskJet driver send the print job rather than the LaserWriter driver. Currently the PC can print direct, so why not the Mac. My set up is as follows: Mac, PC, Linux. All are on ethernet. DeskJet 855c connected to the Linux box on the parallel port. If there is a set of instruction that would be great... Thanks, Jesse From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 5 06:03:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA03756 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 06:03:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA03752 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 06:03:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA22861; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 05:58:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA22856 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 05:58:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from lri.lri.fr (lri.lri.fr [129.175.15.1]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA22786 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 05:58:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from sun-bd.lri.fr (sun-bd.lri.fr [129.175.4.4]) by lri.lri.fr (8.8.5/jtpda-5.2) with ESMTP id MAA09288 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:02:42 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun-bd by sun-bd.lri.fr (8.8.4/local) with ESMTP id MAA11282 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:02:37 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199802051102.MAA11282@sun-bd.lri.fr> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] pap on a Solaris 2.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 12:02:37 +0100 From: bernier jerome Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all I try to send a file to an AppleTalk connected printer. so pap must be run by psf , but i don't know where can i put the .paprc file? and in which file i specify the path for the filters ofpap ifpap for the Appletalk printer. thanks in advance jerome -- ***************************************************************************** __ ___ ____ / / / _ \ / / Bernier Jerome E-mail: bernier@lri.fr / /__/ _, /_/ / Support Systemes et Reseaux Tel:01.69.15.69.24 /____/_/ |_/___/ Laboratoire de recherche en Informatique, Bat. 490, Universite Paris Sud, 91405 ORSAY cedex, FRANCE. ***************************************************************************** From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 5 06:19:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA04513 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 06:19:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA04508 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 06:19:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id GAA11212; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 06:20:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id GAA11210 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 06:20:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from newton.batcon.com (du231.iro.ptd.net [204.186.7.231]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA11206 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 06:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from batcon.com (dbatten@newton.batcon.com [204.186.7.231]) by newton.batcon.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA14998; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 06:15:31 -0500 Message-ID: <34D99F53.F96258F7@batcon.com> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 11:15:31 +0000 From: Dean Batten X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jesse Swensen CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Printing from Macs References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Jesse Swensen wrote: > > Let's try again.... > > At 12:26 PM -0800 1/28/98, Bill Studenmund wrote: > >Also, why are you having the macs print to a printer queue which points to > >an Appletalk printer? Why not just have them print directly? Evidently, because you *don't* have an Appletalk printer. > I have watched several threads that have hinted at the Macs printing > directly to the printer, but have not found specific instructions. The > several Mini HOWTOs and FAQs I have read all have the linux box spooling > the print job and running it through ghostscript. I have this type of > setup and it is running OK. I do have problems every now and then with > postscript error and feel it would be better to let the DeskJet driver send > the print job rather than the LaserWriter driver. Currently the PC can > print direct, so why not the Mac. Because the printer is connected to the PC, not the Mac! > My set up is as follows: > > Mac, PC, Linux. All are on ethernet. > DeskJet 855c connected to the Linux box on the parallel port. If the printer is connected to the PC printer port, you must go through the PC to get to it. The references you have seen to printing directly to printers from Macs assume that the printer is connected and communicating directly on a network. In my case, my printer is an Ethernet-connected printer, and, in many cases, AppleTalk is run on a lower speed "LocalTalk" network using either Apple serial cables or phone wire. Now, I suspect you really meant to ask: How can I have the Mac DeskJet driver generate the file and spool through the Linux box without filtering through ghostscript? This, I will leave to someone who has done this... > If there is a set of instruction that would be great... > > Thanks, > Jesse -- Dean Batten .......... 927 N 5th St ......... Office/Fax 610/437-3516 dbatten@batcon.com ... Allentown, PA 18102 ........ Home 610/437-9959 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 5 09:32:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA09435 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:32:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA09431 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:31:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA05947; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:27:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA05928 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:27:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA05915 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:27:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10347; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:30:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from cec.mtu.edu (root@cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.196]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00758; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:30:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from critter.cec.mtu.edu (critter.cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.204]) by cec.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/mtumailer-1.2) with SMTP id JAA26049; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:30:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:30:59 -0500 (EST) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@critter.cec.mtu.edu To: bernier jerome cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] pap on a Solaris 2.5 In-Reply-To: <199802051102.MAA11282@sun-bd.lri.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > so pap must be run by psf , but i don't know where can i put the .paprc file? > and in which file i specify the path for the filters ofpap ifpap > for the Appletalk printer. Go to http:/www.cec.mtu.edu/Doc/FAQ/netatalk.html Get the version specified there if you haven't already. Read INSTALL/README.SOLARIS for information on setting up pap with Solaris' lp system. Share and enjoy. :) - edan -- Edan Idzerda System Administrator -- Michigan Technological University, Houghton MI USA From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 5 09:53:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA10462 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:53:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA10456 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:53:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA15874; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA15872 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:48:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from falcon.cc.ukans.edu (falcon.cc.ukans.edu [129.237.34.1]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA15867 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:48:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by falcon.cc.ukans.edu (8.8.7/1.1.8.2/12Jan95-0207PM) id IAA0000009442; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 08:53:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 08:53:13 -0600 (CST) From: Chad Campbell X-Sender: campbell@falcon.cc.ukans.edu To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, kulua@raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] strange netatalk death In-Reply-To: <34D96825.1AF9@teknik.norrkoping.office.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've always had intermittent problems with netatalk 1.4b2 suddenly not listening for connections. Atalkd doesn't die, it just won't respond to anything. I think yesterday I figured out what's happening. It appears that something is going wrong whenever anyone enters an incorrect password. After that happens, no one else can even connect. Also, if I try to shut down atalkd without reboot, i.e. ....atalkd.init stop, it responds that the machine cannot be unregistered. I'm running RedHat 4.2 on a SPARCstation 5 with kernel 2.0.30. Anyone have a fix for this? Thanks, Chad ------------- Chad Campbell Web Manager, University of Kansas Natural History Museum campbell@ukans.edu http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~campbell From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 5 12:24:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA18640 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:24:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA18628 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:24:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA27035; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:19:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA27028 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:19:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from ux4.sp.cs.cmu.edu (UX4.SP.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.198.104]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id MAA27022 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:19:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from FISH.PRODIGY.CS.CMU.EDU by ux4.sp.cs.cmu.edu id aa11223; 5 Feb 98 11:08 EST X-Sender: will@ux4.sp.cs.cmu.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 11:08:04 -0500 To: netatalk-admins From: William Uther Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Off Subject, but... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >On Wed, 4 Feb 1998, Gregor Retti wrote: > >> I suppose everybody got it. this is the second time, SPAM was delivered >> thru this list in the last months. I do not understand, why postings are >> not restricted to members only. >> > >I'm not decided on whether or not postings should be restricted. The nice >thing about it is that if someone is having a problem but doesn't want to >subscribe to the list, they can simply write to the list and get help. >Obviously the bad side is that people can abuse this and spam us. How about this: you can only send to the list if either A) you are on the list or B) you have netatalk-admins@umich.edu explicitly in the To: field of the mail. That should weed out most spam and still allow most genuine queries for help. \x/ill :-} William Uther "When I die I want to go quietly, will@cs.cmu.edu in my sleep like my Grandfather, Dept. of Computer Science, not screaming like the passengers in his car" Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~will/ From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 5 12:24:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA18648 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:24:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA18635 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:24:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA10879; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:24:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA10875 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:24:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA10860 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 12:24:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA120359; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:26:09 -0800 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 09:26:08 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: Jesse Swensen cc: "Robert J. Marinchick" , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Printing from Macs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Jesse Swensen wrote: > Let's try again.... > > At 12:26 PM -0800 1/28/98, Bill Studenmund wrote: > >Also, why are you having the macs print to a printer queue which points to > >an Appletalk printer? Why not just have them print directly? > > I have watched several threads that have hinted at the Macs printing > directly to the printer, but have not found specific instructions. For the direct connection I was talking about, you either have to have the printer directly connected to the mac, or directly connected to the network. The > several Mini HOWTOs and FAQs I have read all have the linux box spooling > the print job and running it through ghostscript. I have this type of > setup and it is running OK. I do have problems every now and then with > postscript error and feel it would be better to let the DeskJet driver send > the print job rather than the LaserWriter driver. Currently the PC can > print direct, so why not the Mac. > > My set up is as follows: > > Mac, PC, Linux. All are on ethernet. > DeskJet 855c connected to the Linux box on the parallel port. Unless there's another port on the printer to which you could hook a mac, the macs HAVE to print through the Linux box. It sounds like you have things already set up right for that. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 5 13:31:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA23373 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:31:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA23362 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:30:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA16270 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 03:37:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id DAA28141; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 03:38:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id DAA28138 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 03:38:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from amaldi.fis.uniroma3.it (amaldi.fis.uniroma3.it [193.204.162.63]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id DAA27902 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 03:36:11 -0500 (EST) From: CIRIMELE@amaldi.fis.uniroma3.it Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 9:35:46 +0100 (CET) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu CC: CIRIMELE@amaldi.fis.uniroma3.it Message-Id: <980205093546.2c7a@amaldi.fis.uniroma3.it> Subject: [netatalk-admins] help Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Dear Sir, I installed netatalk on a PC running linux and worked fine. But after installing appletalk over a Digital router (brouter 90) atalkd does not start and prints an error saying that there are too many routers. This is the content of atalkd.conf --- eth0 -phase 2 -addr 24999.1 -net 24999-24999 #-zone "infn-roma3" there follows the message I got starting netatalk: --- starting appletalk daemons:eth0: Setting Rx mode to 1 addresses. eth0: Setting Rx mode to 2 addresses. Too many routes/iface. AppleTalk not up! Child exited with 1. atalkdnbp_rgstr: Connection timed out Can't register ciri:Workstation@* Best regards, Giuseppe Cirimele -- e-mail cirimele@fis.uniroma3.it tel. 55177266-55177023 fax 5579303 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 5 19:15:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA01703 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 19:15:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA01699 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 19:15:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA21605; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 19:15:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA21599 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 19:15:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA21583 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 19:15:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA01566; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 00:14:47 GMT Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 00:14:47 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Robert Edwards cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] IP Encapsulation In-Reply-To: <34D71D5B.AF9A930E@faceng.anu.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Three solution come to mind: 1. Apple Internet Gateway software product from Apple which provided a TCP-IP <-> MacIP (IP-in-AppleTalk) Gateway. 2. Hardware router our Cisco 2514 router does a similar thing. I'm sure other routers do too. 3. Linux IP-MacIP gateway I know someone was working on a package that did this, and I think it work reliably. Unfortunately I have no idea where to get it. All the above solutions assume you have AppleTalk connectivity to the machine in question. On Wed, 4 Feb 1998, Robert Edwards wrote: > I am new to this list, although I have been successfully using netatalk > on two Linux boxes at home for almost a year now. > > I am wondering if anyone can throw any wisdom towards a solution to > providing IP encapsulation for a Mac laptop which only has a LocalTalk > connection (connected to my Linux boxes through an Asante Ether*Print box). > > I understand that some LocalTalk to EtherTalk adaptors/routers provided > a service or protocol called "KIP" (I don't know what it stands for). > What I want is for one of my Linux boxes to do something similar, > unpacking IP packets from AppleTalk Streams coming from MacTCP and then > sending them on their way on the IP network. Anyone know of any software > that will do something like that? 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From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 6 04:58:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA28069 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 04:58:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA28063 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 04:58:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA15941; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 04:58:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA15937 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 04:58:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at (germ2.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA15933 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 04:58:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from buster.retti.at (internet@pc1-c608.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.17]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.7/8.8.6 (l 2)) with ESMTP id KAA02697; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 10:57:52 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (m610.retti.at [192.168.0.13]) by buster.retti.at (8.8.3/8.8.3 (GR v 1.1)) with ESMTP id KAA06863; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 10:27:21 +0100 Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 10:27:21 +0100 X-Sender: gregor@mail.retti.at Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: William Uther , netatalk-admins From: Gregor Retti Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Off Subject, but... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 11:08 Uhr -0500 05.02.1998, William Uther wrote: >How about this: you can only send to the list if either A) you are on the >list or B) you have netatalk-admins@umich.edu explicitly in the To: field >of the mail. That should weed out most spam and still allow most genuine >queries for help. > I am in favorite for anything that would stop the SPAMing. everbody got the last one too? relevant headers: Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA25437; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 01:58:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA00522; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 01:49:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from buffnet9.buffnet.net(205.246.19.19) by buffnet4.buffnet.net via smap (V2.0) id xma000513; Fri, 6 Feb 98 01:49:38 -0500 Received: from webserv2.buffnet.net(205.247.125.2) by buffnet9.buffnet.net via smap (V2.0) id xmaa08294; Fri, 6 Feb 98 01:49:31 -0500 Received: from jj3dw3.q3q3665f.com (1Cust19.tnt14.lax3.da.uu.net [153.37.91.19]) by webserv2.buffnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA24050; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 01:52:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rwrw44@ix.netcom.com) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 01:52:55 -0500 (EST) From: rwrw44 To: nelson@florida-democrats.org regards gregor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ----------- http://germanistik.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 6 07:53:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA17266 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 07:53:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA17262 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 07:53:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA16038; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 07:48:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA16036 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 07:48:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from opengate.opentext.com (opengate.opentext.com [204.138.115.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA16032 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 07:48:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by opengate.opentext.com (8.7.6-opentext/opengate-970407a) id HAA20613; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 07:53:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.opentext.com (172.21.0.15) by opengate.opentext.com via smap (V1.3) id sma020611; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 07:53:11 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by mercury.opentext.com (8.7.6-opentext/mercury-970417a) id HAA04811; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 07:53:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from sidv.opentext.com (172.21.7.7) by mercury.opentext.com via smap (V1.3) id sma004809; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 07:53:08 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 07:51:03 -0500 (EST) From: Sid Van den Heede To: Gregor Retti cc: William Uther , netatalk-admins Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: SPAM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 6 Feb 1998, Gregor Retti wrote: > At 11:08 Uhr -0500 05.02.1998, William Uther wrote: > > >How about this: you can only send to the list if either A) you are on the > >list or B) you have netatalk-admins@umich.edu explicitly in the To: field > >of the mail. That should weed out most spam and still allow most genuine > >queries for help. > > > > I am in favorite for anything that would stop the SPAMing. everbody got the > last one too? Well, so far it seems there are a lot of messages about SPAM, but I think I've only seen 1, maybe 2 actual SPAM messages in the last few weeks. Unless we start getting royally bombarded with SPAM, I would suggest the best approach would be to just ignore it, and concentrate on netatalk issues. It's a good list with a very high signal-to-noise ratio, and we're making too much noise talking about the little bit of noise... ------------------------------------------------------------------ Sid Van den Heede Open Text Corporation +1 519 888 7111 x2211 185 Columbia Street West +1 519 888 0677 (fax) Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 5Z5 sidv@opentext.com From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 6 12:28:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA01565 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 12:28:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA01561 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 12:28:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA06724; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 12:29:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA06699 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 12:29:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from hopf.uoregon.edu (hopf.uoregon.edu [128.223.36.94]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA06676 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 12:29:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from sadofsky@localhost) by hopf.uoregon.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA30598; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 09:35:19 -0800 Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 09:35:19 -0800 Message-Id: <199802061735.JAA30598@hopf.uoregon.edu> From: Hal Sadofsky To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] specifying zone for shared filesystem Reply-to: sadofsky@math.uoregon.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm completely new to netatalk, but have it mostly working. I have a linux box which I wish to be able to serve files to a bunch of macintoshes. It is now doing this correctly (at least to one at a time; I have yet to test if I've correctly reset the maximum number of connections from 5 to 20) except that I cannot make the filesystem appear in the correct zone to the macintoshes. Here is the end of atalkd.conf (it's really all one line even though I edited it for legibility here): # interfaces on a Sun. It also causes atalkd to fail if other # routers disagree about it's configuration of le1. # eth0 -phase 2 -net 61140-61149 -addr 61147.249 -zone "UOnet" -zone \ "Arts & Sciences" -zone "Math" -zone "Chapman" Here is Applevolumes.default: # This file looks empty when viewed with "vi". In fact, there is one # '~', so users with no AppleVolumes file in their home directory get # their home directory by default. ~ /var/tmp/mac "Noether Mac Exports" and here is what I think is the relevant part of the init file that starts atalk (I'm using redhat 5.0, so this file is /etc/rc.d/init.d/atalk.init): # See how we were called. case "$1" in start) echo -n "Starting AppleTalk services: " daemon atalkd nbprgstr -p 4 "${ATALK_NAME}:Workstation@Math" nbprgstr -p 4 "${ATALK_NAME}:netatalk@Math" daemon papd daemon afpd ${AFPD_NOCLR} ${AFPD_NOAFS} ${AFPD_NOKRB} ${AFPD_NOGUEST} \ -g ${AFPD_GUEST} -c ${AFPD_MAX_CLIENTS} -n ${ATALK_NAME} echo touch /var/lock/subsys/atalk ;; The init file must be working, since I am successfully serving /var/tmp/mac, but it ends up in the "UOnet zone rather than the "Math" zone. Can anyone see what my problem is? Thanks, Hal Sadofsky From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Feb 7 17:26:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA26455 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 17:26:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA26451 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 17:26:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA04597; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 17:26:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA04584 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 17:26:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (mail6.geocities.com [209.1.224.26]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA04574 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 17:26:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from da-bitch (tsa-141.cape.com [140.186.62.141]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA09091 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 14:26:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199802072226.OAA09091@geocities.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: neurophyre@geocities.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 17:32:37 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [netatalk-admins] (Fwd) Spam bounced from ix.netcom.com? includes headers X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This message was sent to abuse@netcom.com, after receiving spam apparently from an account at netcom. When copying the headers, I noticed something related to this list. Spam-chasers take notice. I don't know a lot about sendmail headers, but it looks like it -may- have been bounced from somewhere at umich.edu. -------- I received a similar spam from this same 'address' at netcom.com and was told by a member of your abuse team that the problem had been taken care of. Here is the second spam with the same message content as the first, and the headers (at least those that I can get with my mail software). The message from the Netcom representative is included at bottom. Here are the headers: ---- headers start ---- by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA21424; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 22:59:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id BAA24457; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 01:58:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (bulk_mailer v1.5+); Fri, 6 Feb 1998 01:58:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id BAA24419 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 01:58:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA24409 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 01:58:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id BAA25443; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 01:58:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id BAA25441 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 01:58:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA25437; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 01:58:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA00522; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 01:49:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from buffnet9.buffnet.net(205.246.19.19) by buffnet4.buffnet.net via smap (V2.0) id xma000513; Fri, 6 Feb 98 01:49:38 -0500 Received: from webserv2.buffnet.net(205.247.125.2) by buffnet9.buffnet.net via smap (V2.0) id xmaa08294; Fri, 6 Feb 98 01:49:31 -0500 Received: from jj3dw3.q3q3665f.com (1Cust19.tnt14.lax3.da.uu.net [153.37.91.19]) by webserv2.buffnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA24050; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 01:52:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rwrw44@ix.netcom.com) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 01:52:55 -0500 (EST) From: rwrw44 To: nelson@florida-democrats.org MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at buffnet9.buffnet.net Received: from SMTP.XServer (Smail4.1.19.1 #20) id m0wBzN7-009vdR; Wednesday, January 28th, 1998 Received: from mail.apache.net(really [164/187]) by relay.comanche.com Monday, January 26th, 1998 Received: from 32776.21445(really [80110/80111]) by relay.denmark.nl Saturday, January 24th, 1998 Received: from local.nethost.org(really [24553/24554]) by relay.SS621.net Friday, January 23rd, 1998 Message-Id: <19943672.886214@relay.comanche.denmark.eu> Thursday, January 29th, 1998 Reply-To: rwrw44@ix.netcom.com Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu X-PMFLAGS: 35651712 0 ---- headers end ---- ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 01:52:55 -0500 (EST) From: rwrw44 To: nelson@florida-democrats.org Reply-to: rwrw44@ix.netcom.com Authenticated sender is Subject: Friday Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit EMAIL MARKETING WORKS!! 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From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 8 04:54:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA16486 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 04:54:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA16481 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 04:54:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA09271; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 04:49:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA09268 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 04:49:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at (germ2.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA09264 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 04:49:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from buster.retti.at (internet@pc1-c608.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.17]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.7/8.8.6 (l 3)) with ESMTP id KAA21290 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 10:54:17 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (m610.retti.at [192.168.0.13]) by buster.retti.at (8.8.3/8.8.3 (GR v 1.1)) with ESMTP id JAA10680 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 09:53:40 +0100 Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 09:53:40 +0100 X-Sender: gregor@mail.retti.at Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: netatalk-admins From: Gregor Retti Subject: [netatalk-admins] symlinked directories Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu hi, within the directory shared through apfd there is a symlink to another directory, which is on another partition. now users can make folders within this symlinked directory, but can not delete them. the mac-finder reports an error -50. apfd logs: afp:enumerator: stat Data: No such file or directory the folders can be moved and renamed. files on the other hand can be manipulated in any way. I am running netatalk-1.4b2 on linux 2.0.32 any ideas? gregor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ----------- http://germanistik.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 8 16:49:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA10886 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 16:49:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA10849 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 16:49:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA04561; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 16:44:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA04553 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 16:44:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from wallace.khm.de (wallace.khm.de [194.95.162.42]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id QAA04542 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 16:44:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pc01 (call3.DS.FH-Koeln.DE [139.6.141.73]) by wallace.khm.de (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id WAA15642; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 22:51:03 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980208225344.00981ec0@wallace.khm.de> X-Sender: owrede@wallace.khm.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 22:53:44 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, LINUX-ATALK@NETSPACE.ORG From: Oliver Wrede Subject: [netatalk-admins] Substitute Linux by MacOS??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi everybody. We want to substitute a Linux box by an MacOS-Server! These here are our main services and our plans to substitute Mac software. I don't have any experiences with this services on Mac and I wnat to know if anybody can comment on it (bad/good, do's/dont's, etc) LINUX: --> APPLE: WWW (Apache) WWW (Apache / WebTen) Mail (Sendmail) Stalker Internet Mail Server FTP FTP (NetPresence/WebTen) Majordomo MacJordomo PHP (???) MySQL FileMaker Pro + Lasso/Tango Telnet (???) PPP (analog + digital) VICOM Internet Gateway FTP-Spiegelung FTP-Client + AppleScript WWW based Newsgroup (???) Netatalk (TCP/IP) not needed The MacOS Server is supposed to deal with 400-600 Users in a network of aprox. 30 Macs and 5-10 PCs. We need IMAP support to accomplish this. I am currently unsure if a MacOS machine is a reliable application for this task. If anybody here think I should not use MacOS, I would appreciate some advice/experience reports... Oliver . Oliver Wrede . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . owrede@ds.fh-koeln.de . . tel. +49 2203 913 200 . office +49 221 9522 601 . fax +49 221 9522 605 . . School of Design, University of Applied Science, Cologne . . . . . . . . . . http://www.ds.fh-koeln.de/~owrede/ . . . . . . . . ICQ# 6580315 . . . . . From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 8 17:07:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA11794 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:07:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA11790 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:07:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA04780; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:09:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA04778 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:08:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.72.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA04767 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dannyman@localhost) by arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA11905; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 16:07:35 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19980208160735.59744@urh.uiuc.edu> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 16:07:35 -0600 From: dannyman To: Oliver Wrede , netatalk-admins@umich.edu, LINUX-ATALK@NETSPACE.ORG Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Substitute Linux by MacOS??? Mail-Followup-To: Oliver Wrede , netatalk-admins@umich.edu, LINUX-ATALK@NETSPACE.ORG References: <3.0.5.32.19980208225344.00981ec0@wallace.khm.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980208225344.00981ec0@wallace.khm.de>; from Oliver Wrede on Sun, Feb 08, 1998 at 10:53:44PM +0100 X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu X-URL: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sun, Feb 08, 1998 at 10:53:44PM +0100, Oliver Wrede wrote: > I am currently unsure if a MacOS machine is a reliable application for > this task. If anybody here think I should not use MacOS, I would > appreciate some advice/experience reports... *scratches head* Well, MacOS sucks, doesn't multitask too well, is crash-prone, and the source code for whatever you're running is not open to security audit or manual tweaking/bug-fixing. That and remote maintenance is probably a sick joke. But other than that, I'm sure the Mac would make a great platform for Internet server applications. Why bother with that tricky unix stuff? Especially linux with it's silly graphical configuration screens and stuff. hth, dan -- //Dan -=- This message brought to you by djhoward@uiuc.edu -=- \\/yori -=- Information - http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ -=- aiokomete -=- Our Honored Symbol deserves an Honorable Retirement From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 8 17:24:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA12559 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:24:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA12418 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:24:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA10234; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:19:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA10232 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:19:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from outpost.localdomain (mmatteo.ns.net [204.119.243.162]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA10216 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:19:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (mmatteo@localhost) by outpost.localdomain (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA01034; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 14:24:24 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: outpost.localdomain: mmatteo owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 14:24:24 -0800 (PST) From: Marc Matteo X-Sender: mmatteo@outpost.localdomain To: Oliver Wrede cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, LINUX-ATALK@NETSPACE.ORG Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Substitute Linux by MacOS??? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980208225344.00981ec0@wallace.khm.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, Oliver Wrede wrote: > We want to substitute a Linux box by an MacOS-Server! Good God, man, why?!?!? I mean I'm a Mac fan and all but the MacOS just is not worth a damn as a server OS. Yeah, you can do all the things you mentioned but you can do them all cheaper, faster and more stable on a UNIX/Linux box. Marc Marc Matteo Web Engineer, The Sacramento Bee http://www.sacbee.com From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 8 17:40:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA13226 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:40:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA13221 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:40:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA20123; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:40:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA20118 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:40:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from wallace.khm.de (wallace.khm.de [194.95.162.42]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id RAA20105 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:40:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from pc01 (call3.DS.FH-Koeln.DE [139.6.141.73]) by wallace.khm.de (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id XAA15972; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 23:42:38 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980208234522.00864b30@wallace.khm.de> X-Sender: owrede@wallace.khm.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 23:45:22 +0100 To: Marc Matteo From: Oliver Wrede Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Substitute Linux by MacOS??? Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, LINUX-ATALK@NETSPACE.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.19980208225344.00981ec0@wallace.khm.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 14:24 08.02.98 -0800, Marc Matteo wrote: >> We want to substitute a Linux box by an MacOS-Server! > >Good God, man, why?!?!? > >I mean I'm a Mac fan and all but the MacOS just is not worth a damn as a >server OS. Yeah, you can do all the things you mentioned but you can do >them all cheaper, faster and more stable on a UNIX/Linux box. I know that. I am supporting the usage of Linux even in Mac-enviroments for server tasks. Problem is, that I need definitive "Don't do that!" from experienced admins to convince people from my department to stay on Linux and spent more time in learning to administer it. Currently the discussion is, saying "MacOS does all we need!", but I think they're wrong in that point -- especially, because we're going to have >400 Users working on e-Mail every day. We have a very small PC (P90,32MB RAM,1.5GB drive) doing this job perfectly for more than two years now. My personal experience is that Linux performed extermly well -- but for most people from the Mac area the interface is a problem. They simply do not want to get into it. I think the reliability counts more than the interface for a server, but my friends here fear to lose control over the services if no UNIX guy is around to fix it if something is broken. On the other hand I have the feeling, that doing all we need on MacOS (see my last mail) we will have more things broken, than we can fix. But I need confirmation on that - because I do not have any practical experience with MacOS as server for our dimension (see my last mail as well). Oliver . Oliver Wrede . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . owrede@ds.fh-koeln.de . . tel. +49 2203 913 200 . office +49 221 9522 601 . fax +49 221 9522 605 . . School of Design, University of Applied Science, Cologne . . . . . . . . . . http://www.ds.fh-koeln.de/~owrede/ . . . . . . . . ICQ# 6580315 . . . . . From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 8 17:48:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA13658 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:48:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA13651 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:48:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA21420; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:48:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA21414 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:48:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from pagesz.net (nina.pagesz.net [208.194.157.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA21407 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:48:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (alaska.pagesz.net [208.194.157.249]) by pagesz.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA30200; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:48:41 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980208225344.00981ec0@wallace.khm.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:48:04 -0500 To: Oliver Wrede , netatalk-admins@umich.edu, LINUX-ATALK@NETSPACE.ORG From: Jesse Swensen Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Substitute Linux by MacOS??? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 10:53 PM +0100 2/8/98, Oliver Wrede wrote: >Hi everybody. > >We want to substitute a Linux box by an MacOS-Server! These here are >our main services and our plans to substitute Mac software. I don't >have any experiences with this services on Mac and I wnat to know if >anybody can comment on it (bad/good, do's/dont's, etc) > >LINUX: --> APPLE: > >WWW (Apache) WWW (Apache / WebTen) >Mail (Sendmail) Stalker Internet Mail Server >FTP FTP (NetPresence/WebTen) >Majordomo MacJordomo >PHP (???) >MySQL FileMaker Pro + Lasso/Tango >Telnet (???) >PPP (analog + digital) VICOM Internet Gateway >FTP-Spiegelung FTP-Client + AppleScript >WWW based Newsgroup (???) >Netatalk (TCP/IP) not needed > >The MacOS Server is supposed to deal with 400-600 Users in a network of >aprox. 30 Macs and 5-10 PCs. We need IMAP support to accomplish this. > >I am currently unsure if a MacOS machine is a reliable application for >this task. If anybody here think I should not use MacOS, I would >appreciate some advice/experience reports... First, let me say that I am a Mac Bigot. I have been a Mac consultant/programmer/evangelist since the Mac Plus days and am currently active with Macs. I love Macs and think they have the best user interface. But, that's just it, a user interface. If you don't need one don't use it. To replace all the above services, you will need several Macs. But if you are intent on changing, here is my choices: >WWW (Apache) StarNine WebStar (Best commercial >Web Server) >Mail (Sendmail) StarNine Mail and MailLink >Gateways (Use to be owned my MS but they gave it up for NT/Exchange. I >think StarNine is better.) >FTP NetPresence >Majordomo StarNine ListStar >PHP Take a look at 4th Dimension. It >is it's own database and has a great development environment and can be a >front end or even a Web Server. >MySQL 4th Dimension >Telnet Telnet (NCSA Telnet) >PPP (analog + digital) I am not familiar with a good >solution (Not that there isn't one) >FTP-Spiegelung Fetch >WWW based Newsgroup (???) Understand that WebStar, Mail and 4th Dimension will each need their own Machine to get the same kind of performance you get from a Linux box. If I had a choice, I would use the Linux box for the services that you don't need a user interface for like Pop Mail, web server/PHP, etc... and Leave the Macs to do what they do best, interface with the user. Jesse ___________________________________________________________________ CornerStone Computer Services Jesse Swensen 111 Vashon CT. (919) 481-3480 (home) jrs@pagesz.net Cary, NC 27513 (919) 481-3480 (FAX) "Intel Inside" The worlds most used warning label. ___________________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 8 18:24:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA14604 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 18:24:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA14599 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 18:24:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA18139; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 18:25:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA18137 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 18:25:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.72.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA18133 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 18:25:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dannyman@localhost) by arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id RAA22205; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:24:18 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19980208172418.17753@urh.uiuc.edu> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:24:18 -0600 From: dannyman To: Oliver Wrede , Marc Matteo Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, LINUX-ATALK@NETSPACE.ORG Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Substitute Linux by MacOS??? Mail-Followup-To: Oliver Wrede , Marc Matteo , netatalk-admins@umich.edu, LINUX-ATALK@NETSPACE.ORG References: <3.0.5.32.19980208225344.00981ec0@wallace.khm.de> <3.0.5.32.19980208234522.00864b30@wallace.khm.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980208234522.00864b30@wallace.khm.de>; from Oliver Wrede on Sun, Feb 08, 1998 at 11:45:22PM +0100 X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu X-URL: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sun, Feb 08, 1998 at 11:45:22PM +0100, Oliver Wrede wrote: > I think the reliability counts more than the interface for a server, > but my friends here fear to lose control over the services if no > UNIX guy is around to fix it if something is broken. Well, tell them that because Unix is under attack from NT, there will be plenty of Unix guys ready to pitch in. ;) -- //Dan -=- This message brought to you by djhoward@uiuc.edu -=- \\/yori -=- Information - http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ -=- aiokomete -=- Our Honored Symbol deserves an Honorable Retirement From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 8 18:35:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA15223 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 18:35:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA15219 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 18:35:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA21760; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 18:29:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA21758 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 18:29:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from epona.sugar-land.oilfield.slb.com. (epona.sugar-land.oilfield.slb.com [163.185.167.200]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id SAA21753 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 18:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.103.66] by epona.sugar-land.oilfield.slb.com. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA17294; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:26:50 -0600 X-Sender: garyb@empnet.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19980208160735.59744@urh.uiuc.edu> References: <3.0.5.32.19980208225344.00981ec0@wallace.khm.de>; from Oliver Wrede on Sun, Feb 08, 1998 at 10:53:44PM +0100 <3.0.5.32.19980208225344.00981ec0@wallace.khm.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 17:20:09 -0600 To: dannyman , Oliver Wrede , netatalk-admins@umich.edu, LINUX-ATALK@NETSPACE.ORG From: "Gary E. Bickford" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Substitute Linux by MacOS??? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Good places to find out include http://mrmac.com/macmgrs. I quote: >Reply-To: "Rhapsody Discussion List" ... >> Yep.. 86 days of uptime running my Apache server.. > >I agree that Apache rocks. I have a IIsi running NetBSD (MacBSD) and >Apache that has been running since May of last year with the exception of >changing out an UPS. On the other hand, I have a quadra 700 running >WebSTAR that has been up since last September 6th ;-) ... Actually, the Mac based web servers aren't too bad. Because MacOS doesn't have a multiuser attitude, it's pretty much secure from web hacking, unless set up wrong. Some of my best friends run all-mac ISP's :) Performance is pretty good. Most web servers are underutiliized anyway - a T1 line is only 1.5 M bits/second, which is lower than disk access on an SE/30 (an OLD machine) If you REALLY want to rock and roll, Get WebObjects from Apple. not cheap, but worth every $. When Apple rolled out their online purchasing web site, the first day they had 12 million hits and sold $6 million worth of equipment, all without a glitch. From my experience, that's remarkable for a first day. If you want personal experience with Mac webservers, you can contact me directly, and I'll give you the email of someone who does this. I run multiple commercial webservers (Stronghold, Apache-based) based on Sparc/Solaris, but I connect to them and do my work on a 2-headed Mac. I can use BBEdit, a programmer's editor which is worth the price of a Mac by itself, or Exodus (X11), or ssh, or telnet depending on what I'm doing. I keep NetPresenz (a shareware Mac-based web & ftp server) running so I can ftp from home via a corporate dialup. Not a greatly used site, but it's never crashed my Mac. Oddly enough, I've recently been in a Rhapsody discussion list defending the use of vi and emacs...:) GEB At 4:07 PM -0600 2/8/98, dannyman wrote: >On Sun, Feb 08, 1998 at 10:53:44PM +0100, Oliver Wrede wrote: > >> I am currently unsure if a MacOS machine is a reliable application for >> this task. If anybody here think I should not use MacOS, I would >> appreciate some advice/experience reports... > >*scratches head* > >Well, MacOS sucks, doesn't multitask too well, is crash-prone, and the source >code for whatever you're running is not open to security audit or manual >tweaking/bug-fixing. > >That and remote maintenance is probably a sick joke. > >But other than that, I'm sure the Mac would make a great platform for >Internet server applications. Why bother with that tricky unix stuff? >Especially linux with it's silly graphical configuration screens and stuff. > From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 8 20:29:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA17775 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 20:29:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA17771 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 20:29:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id UAA12539; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 20:30:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id UAA12534 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 20:30:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA12527 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 20:30:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (max4-74.HiWAAY.net [208.147.145.74]) by fly.HiWAAY.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA22889 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 19:29:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA27102 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 19:29:13 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199802090129.TAA27102@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Substitute Linux by MacOS??? In-reply-to: Message from dannyman of "Sun, 08 Feb 1998 17:24:18 CST." <19980208172418.17753@urh.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 19:29:13 -0600 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > On Sun, Feb 08, 1998 at 11:45:22PM +0100, Oliver Wrede wrote: > > > I think the reliability counts more than the interface for a server, > > but my friends here fear to lose control over the services if no > > UNIX guy is around to fix it if something is broken. > > Well, tell them that because Unix is under attack from NT, there will be > plenty of Unix guys ready to pitch in. ;) And when Rhapsody ships the number of Unix users in the world will swell faster than Linux and FreeBSD have managed to contribute. Watch for the media to poo-poo Rhapsody users as not really being Unix users. Unless there is some compelling reason to ditch the Linux box now, tell the boss you want to keep it until Rhapsody comes out. No point converting to MacOS and back to Unix in the near future. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 8 22:36:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA20119 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 22:36:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA20114 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 22:35:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA17677; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 22:35:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA17672 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 22:35:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.72.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA17667 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 22:35:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dannyman@localhost) by arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id VAA27962; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 21:35:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19980208213557.29405@urh.uiuc.edu> Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 21:35:57 -0600 From: dannyman To: David Kelly , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Substitute Linux by MacOS??? Mail-Followup-To: David Kelly , netatalk-admins@umich.edu References: <199802090129.TAA27102@nospam.hiwaay.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199802090129.TAA27102@nospam.hiwaay.net>; from David Kelly on Sun, Feb 08, 1998 at 07:29:13PM -0600 X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu X-URL: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sun, Feb 08, 1998 at 07:29:13PM -0600, David Kelly wrote: > And when Rhapsody ships the number of Unix users in the world will swell > faster than Linux and FreeBSD have managed to contribute. Watch for the > media to poo-poo Rhapsody users as not really being Unix users. even better, though i suspect it will be us unix dweebs calling rhapsody not unix and not the mass media ... who don't even know what a unix is. :) > Unless there is some compelling reason to ditch the Linux box now, tell > the boss you want to keep it until Rhapsody comes out. No point > converting to MacOS and back to Unix in the near future. wize man. *bow* -- //Dan -=- This message brought to you by djhoward@uiuc.edu -=- \\/yori -=- Information - http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ -=- aiokomete -=- Our Honored Symbol deserves an Honorable Retirement From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 8 22:55:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA20796 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 22:55:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA20791 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 22:55:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA14698; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 22:50:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA14693 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 22:50:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from python.shoal.net.au (python.shoal.net.au [203.26.44.5]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA14689 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 1998 22:50:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by python.shoal.net.au (8.8.6/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA25044 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:55:39 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:55:39 +1100 (EST) From: Chris Joyce cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Substitute Linux by MacOS??? In-Reply-To: <19980208213557.29405@urh.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I run MacOS, Linux and FreeBSD. I can't wait fro Rhapsody. As for changing over from Linux to MacOS it seems that some things are better some worse but all things easer to setup ! On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, dannyman wrote: > On Sun, Feb 08, 1998 at 07:29:13PM -0600, David Kelly wrote: > > > And when Rhapsody ships the number of Unix users in the world will swell > > faster than Linux and FreeBSD have managed to contribute. Watch for the > > media to poo-poo Rhapsody users as not really being Unix users. > > even better, though i suspect it will be us unix dweebs calling rhapsody not > unix and not the mass media ... who don't even know what a unix is. :) > > > Unless there is some compelling reason to ditch the Linux box now, tell > > the boss you want to keep it until Rhapsody comes out. No point > > converting to MacOS and back to Unix in the near future. > > wize man. *bow* > > -- > //Dan -=- This message brought to you by djhoward@uiuc.edu -=- > \\/yori -=- Information - http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ -=- > aiokomete -=- Our Honored Symbol deserves an Honorable Retirement > From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 9 01:05:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id BAA01656 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 01:05:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA01652 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 01:04:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id BAA08539; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 01:06:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id BAA08536 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 01:06:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (colossus.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.202]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA08507 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 01:05:55 -0500 (EST) From: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za Received: from localhost (jon@localhost) by colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA29838 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 08:00:10 +0200 Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 08:00:10 +0200 (SAT) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Substitute Linux by MacOS??? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980208234522.00864b30@wallace.khm.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu i moved onto netatalk because i found even serving file data was too much like hard work for the macos. i have an 8550'200, and it *was* running AS4.2 for a few months. i just got sick of rebooting every day. also, before my 8550 (with 7.5.3) i had a 6150 with AS4.1, which was more stable (running 7.5.0). trouble is it would often crash overnight serving ftp and web and mail, (esp running macjordomo), so i decomissioned it. both my servers (appleshare and internet) are unix-based. i've got uptimes of several months instead of several days. this is why i'm so looking forward to rhapsody: a stable unix with true MT and mem.protection, but with the mac OS interface. make no mistake, i love the mac, i've been using it almost 12 years. but it's no good on a server. see http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/unix/unix_options.html for various pages i've written commenting on exactly this issue. For me, there are two big wins going with unix, and two big losses. wins: internet speed is about 5x higher. 200k/sec on T1 is now 1mb/sec; also, stability (crashes are much less frequent, despite mklinux being "development release" stuff). losses: appleshare speed significantly lower, because of having to split the data forks and resource forks on the fly, i presume. Also, the unix GUI sucks (it wishes it was a gui). unfortunately, having to server internet FAST and not crash is more important to me than how long it takes to copy a file to a user account on the server. ____________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick jon@cs.wits.ac.za, +27 11 716-3783 Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand Web site, ftp site and listserv all available at: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/ On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, Oliver Wrede wrote: > > At 14:24 08.02.98 -0800, Marc Matteo wrote: > > >> We want to substitute a Linux box by an MacOS-Server! > > > >Good God, man, why?!?!? > > > >I mean I'm a Mac fan and all but the MacOS just is not worth a damn as a > >server OS. Yeah, you can do all the things you mentioned but you can do > >them all cheaper, faster and more stable on a UNIX/Linux box. > > > I know that. I am supporting the usage of Linux even in Mac-enviroments > for server tasks. Problem is, that I need definitive "Don't do that!" > from experienced admins to convince people from my department to stay > on Linux and spent more time in learning to administer it. > > Currently the discussion is, saying "MacOS does all we need!", but I > think they're wrong in that point -- especially, because we're going > to have >400 Users working on e-Mail every day. > > We have a very small PC (P90,32MB RAM,1.5GB drive) doing this job > perfectly for more than two years now. My personal experience is that > Linux performed extermly well -- but for most people from the Mac > area the interface is a problem. They simply do not want to get > into it. > > I think the reliability counts more than the interface for a server, > but my friends here fear to lose control over the services if no > UNIX guy is around to fix it if something is broken. > > On the other hand I have the feeling, that doing all we need on > MacOS (see my last mail) we will have more things broken, than we > can fix. But I need confirmation on that - because I do not have > any practical experience with MacOS as server for our dimension (see > my last mail as well). > > > Oliver > > > . Oliver Wrede . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . owrede@ds.fh-koeln.de . > . tel. +49 2203 913 200 . office +49 221 9522 601 . fax +49 221 9522 605 . > . School of Design, University of Applied Science, Cologne . . . . . . . . . > . http://www.ds.fh-koeln.de/~owrede/ . . . . . . . . ICQ# 6580315 . . . . . > From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 9 06:57:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA20755 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 06:57:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA20751 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 06:57:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA12048; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 06:51:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA12046 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 06:51:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from lundaforum.se (lundaforum-gw.ideon.se [193.45.79.26]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA12036 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 06:51:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from trailer3.telia.com (t1o63p330.telia.com [195.198.45.74]) by lundaforum.se (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id NAA10453 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 13:44:52 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980209125758.00702464@lundaforum.se> X-Sender: pb@lundaforum.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 12:57:58 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Peter Bolmehag Subject: [netatalk-admins] urgent: user volume does not show, word documents =?iso-8859-1?Q?can=B4t?= be read Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu hi! I=B4ve got 2 problems. I run netatalk 3.something. It works great but: - The users I create in Linux does not get their own volume in the apple chooser. - When I save an excel document with pc and SAMBA in the Nacintosh file area. The mac can=B4t read it. They get the message "the file can=B4t be rea= d". If I take the same file and save it on a disk on a PC and open it on a mac the file can be read by mac excel with no problems. If I save a excel file on the linux box on a mac, that file can be read and changed on a PC using samba. It only fails if the file is created from scratch on a pc. Any clues? Peter From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 9 11:17:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA27164 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 11:17:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA27160 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 11:17:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA09928; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 11:11:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA09851 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 11:11:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id LAA09188 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 11:10:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from majink1.itc.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa02589; 9 Feb 98 11:15 EST Received: from majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU (majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU [128.143.12.118]) by majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA05122 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 11:15:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199802091615.LAA05122@majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 11:15:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert J. Marinchick" Reply-To: "Robert J. Marinchick" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Can't register a LaserJet with papd To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: H0ya4hGIJv5YdC78fQvoTg== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4c sparc Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi Folks, I'm running netatalk-1.4b2 on a Solaris 2.6 box and have things working after a fashion. I'm trying to register a non-appletalk defined printer in a different zone and am gettin the following error: majink1: /home/rjm8m $ nbprgstr carr_adm_ps1:LaserJet@Carruthers nbp_rgstr: Address family not supported by protocol family Can't register carr_adm_ps1:LaserJet@Carruthers My papd.conf file looks like: f1_majink1\ :pr=|/usr/local/bin/lpr -Pforest_l1: f2_majink1\ :pr=|/usr/local/bin/lpr -Pforest_l2: carr_adm_ps1@Carruthers:\ :pr=|/usr/local/bin/lpr -Padm_ps1: and my /etc/printcap looks like: adm_ps1||LaserJet| Carruthers Hall LJIII in printer farm:\ :lp=/dev/null:mx#0:\ :lf=/usr/spool/print/lpd-errs:pw#80:sh:sf:\ :rm=ps23-eps1.itc.virginia.edu:rp=adm_ps1_p1:\ :if=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filter/ifpap:\ :sd=/usr/spool/print/adm_ps1: and my /usr/spool/print/adm_ps1/.paprc file looks like: carr_adm_ps1:LaserJet@Carruthers ------------------------ in addition, if I stop and restart the atalk daemons, I get the following message in /usr/adm/messages: Feb 9 10:45:36 majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU papd[5103]: can't register carr_adm_ps1:LaserWriter@Carruthers I don't know where papd is getting the LaserWriter definition instead of LaserJet. Hope somebody has an idea, cause I'm all out of them. Bob Marinchick rjm8m@Virginia.Edu From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 9 12:57:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA00535 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 12:57:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA00530 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 12:56:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA25995; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 12:58:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA25979 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 12:58:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from eug4ja.lane.edu (eug4ja.lane.edu [158.165.5.23]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA25961 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 12:58:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from 4j.lane.edu by 4j.lane.edu (PMDF V5.1-9 #27890) id <01ITDECLRGPE8WW4XD@4j.lane.edu> for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 09:56:14 PST Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 09:56:13 -0800 (PST) From: cupples_s@4j.lane.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Substitute Linux by MacOS??? In-reply-to: <3.0.5.32.19980208225344.00981ec0@wallace.khm.de> To: Oliver Wrede Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, LINUX-ATALK@NETSPACE.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, Oliver Wrede wrote: > > Hi everybody. > > We want to substitute a Linux box by an MacOS-Server! These here are > our main services and our plans to substitute Mac software. I don't > have any experiences with this services on Mac and I wnat to know if > anybody can comment on it (bad/good, do's/dont's, etc) > > LINUX: --> APPLE: > > WWW (Apache) WWW (Apache / WebTen) the mack is as slow as they come, the package we are running on the mac webserver at "www.sehs.lane.edu" and forget cgis. > Mail (Sendmail) Stalker Internet Mail Server no expirence > FTP FTP (NetPresence/WebTen) NetPresence (ftpd its predisesor) I have had good luck with, however I have always run it on a box buy its self > Majordomo MacJordomo no expirence > PHP (???) no expirence > MySQL FileMaker Pro + Lasso/Tango functional, expect to spend a fortune on clients and a server package > Telnet (???) Look into NCSA's telent I seem to remember that or a bbs package caled "PA" > PPP (analog + digital) VICOM Internet Gateway no expirence Look into ARA is was packaged with the old apple share servers, and mignt sttll be > FTP-Spiegelung FTP-Client + AppleScript no expirence > WWW based Newsgroup (???) There is a server out there now it is fairley new, i cant remember the name thoe > Netatalk (TCP/IP) not needed IP share is what apple share 5 is... That is not 100% true > > The MacOS Server is supposed to deal with 400-600 Users in a network of > aprox. 30 Macs and 5-10 PCs. We need IMAP support to accomplish this. this is going to we slow, and form past expirence unstable. > > I am currently unsure if a MacOS machine is a reliable application for > this task. If anybody here think I should not use MacOS, I would > appreciate some advice/experience reports... if you are currentley using a netatak bax stay with it. It is almost 2x as fast making 5 hops as a 7200/120 is running appleshare 4.1.2 is on the local hub > > > Oliver > sorry to burst you bubble, I wish the mac was a better option, but it is NOT made for surving, it you are set on using a mac install aux and port netalk Shawn Cupples > > > . Oliver Wrede . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . owrede@ds.fh-koeln.de . > . tel. +49 2203 913 200 . office +49 221 9522 601 . fax +49 221 9522 605 . > . School of Design, University of Applied Science, Cologne . . . . . . . . . > . http://www.ds.fh-koeln.de/~owrede/ . . . . . . . . ICQ# 6580315 . . . . . > > From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 9 13:21:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA01363 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 13:21:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA01358 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 13:21:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA07303; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 13:22:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA07287 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 13:22:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from dubhe.ursa.fi (dubhe.ursa.fi [194.100.71.65]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA07072 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 13:21:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from dubhe.ursa.fi (dubhe [194.100.71.65]) by dubhe.ursa.fi (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA23394 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:20:06 +0200 Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:20:05 +0200 (EET) From: Mikael Jokela To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Linux Netatalk printing problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have a Mac workstation and a Linux box (2.0.33) with Netatalk (1.3.3) and HP Laserjet 5MP printer. The appletalk daemon and papd are running in Linux. I want to print to the Linux printer from the Mac but it doesn't work, I don't know why. When I submit a printer job from Mac, the Mac seems to be printing something and says: 'PS is ready and printing' (PS being the Linux printer queue). However, Mac does nothing until I reboot it. On the Linux side, there appeares a message it the log saying: 'papd: child 12345 for "printer name" from 12345.123' However, nothing appeares in the printer queue and nothing comes out. I've tried virtually everything I can think of. I've changed lpd binaries, printer ppd files, printer queues.. Nothing works. Please, help me with this problem if something comes to your mind about this. I have to get things working.. /etc/papd.conf: # Attributes are: # # Name Type Default Description # pd str ".ppd" Pathname to ppd file. # pr str "lp" LPD printer name. # op str "operator" Operator name, for LPD spooling. # lp:\ :pr=lp:op=mac:pd=/hplj5p_1.ppd: PS:\ :pr=PS:op=mac:pd=/hplj5p_1.ppd: Dubhe-PS:\ :pr=PS:op=mac:pd=/t/hp_20laserjet_205mp.ppd: /etc/printcap: lp:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ :mx#0:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:\ :sh: PS:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/PS:\ :mx#0:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:\ :sh:\ :sf: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mikael Jokela, mikael.jokela@ursa.fi Ursa Astronomical Association, http://www.ursa.fi/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 9 14:11:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA02986 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA02978 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:11:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA11454; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:11:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA11363 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:11:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from panther.middlebury.edu (panther.middlebury.edu [140.233.2.200]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA11347 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:10:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from jaguar.middlebury.edu (jaguar.middlebury.edu [140.233.2.102]) by panther.middlebury.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA166210 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:09:44 -0500 Received: by jaguar.middlebury.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:08:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Pyfrom, Mark" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Disappearing icons on Netatalk 1.3.3 Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:08:00 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu hello all, I just installed Netatalk on our new Linux server. (Dell 2200, 224MB ram, 3com 3c90510/100, 3 9gb disks, RedHat 4.2). and I have been having problems of all sorts. first we installed it on a lesser machine (running RedHat 4.2) and it ran well for 4 months. not one second of downtime. Then I install it on the new machine. It runs for 1-8 hours then the afpd daemon dies. (the main daemon dies leaving the children running. The error message a user gets is "The server is temporally unavailable, please try again.") So I looked to the Netatalk home page and I found a bug that cause this bug, but only on Solaris machines. So I upgraded to 1.4b2 and applied the patch (it is a libatalk bug). It still crashed. ok... So I went back to 1.3.3 and manually applied the patch to the 1.3.3 libatalk and bingo, the server has been up ever since... however..... Now the users are reporting (and I can reproduce) the icons in a given window, usually window of several icons like 150+, disappear. then after a while they reappear..... I didn't have this problem when I was running 1.4b2, but it would crash....... one thing of note. the new server is also a samba server and an INND server. it does get quite a bit of traffic. Also the afp volumes served are NFS mounted from an AIX box running AIX 4.1.5. so my questions. 1. Is there anything I can do that would make 1.4b2 more stable. I would prefer it because it was faster and it didn't have the problem with the icon disappearing. Ethernet config options? afpd options...? 2. Did my hacking the libatalk on 1.3.3 introduce the bug of the disappearing icons? I don't think so, but I am not a very strong network program and know almost zero about AppleTalk protocols. 3. Any other musings that you may have..... Any hints or though would be appreciated. Thankyou for reading my long winded message. Mark Pyfrom Unix Systems Specialist Middlebury College 1-802-443-2010 pyfrom@middlebury.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 9 14:15:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA03304 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:15:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA03291 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:15:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA13113; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:15:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA13068 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:14:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pop2.sugar-land.omnes.net (pop2.sugar-land.omnes.net [163.185.24.201]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA12951 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:14:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from [163.185.167.217] by pop2.sugar-land.omnes.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-45016U1500L2S100) with ESMTP id AAB5025; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 13:15:47 -0600 X-Sender: garyb@pop2.sugar-land.omnes.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.19980208225344.00981ec0@wallace.khm.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:11:16 -0600 To: cupples_s@4j.lane.edu, Oliver Wrede From: "Gary E. Bickford" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Substitute Linux by MacOS??? Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, LINUX-ATALK@NETSPACE.ORG Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu According to my compatriots here, folks generally shouldn't use the MacOS for servers, but should use the Workgroup Server. Same reason as there's NT workstation and NT server - the std. OS8 is set up for workstations, and doesn't have the performance tuning & features you need. That said, a lot of folks grudgingly admit the NT appleshare server is faster, for now... (choke, gasp) GEB From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 9 15:04:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA05871 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 15:04:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA05863 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 15:03:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA04012; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 15:03:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA03908 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 15:03:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from cimteg.cimtegration.com (cimteg.cimtegration.com [199.246.8.18]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA03898 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 15:03:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from cimteg.cimtegration.com (cimteg.cimtegration.com [199.246.8.18]) by cimteg.cimtegration.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/cimteg $Revision: 1.11 $) with SMTP id OAA27030; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:53:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 14:53:50 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Mansell To: "Gary E. Bickford" cc: cupples_s@4j.lane.edu, Oliver Wrede , netatalk-admins@umich.edu, LINUX-ATALK@NETSPACE.ORG Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Substitute Linux by MacOS??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > That said, a lot of folks grudgingly admit the NT appleshare server is > faster, for now... (choke, gasp) > GEB Except for the fact that NT can't export an NFS volume through its appleshare server, like you can with netatalk, ethershare, k-ashare, etc. (PLEASE! someone correct me if I'm wrong! I've never been able to get an NT-Mac-only shop to work well with NFS devices - other than putting NFS client on the Mac, but no one offers up-to-date s/w for that) Mike. -- /\ Michael G. Mansell, BSc. (SCS) Office: (416) 665-0767 x228 /\ \ Engineering Support Services clearNET:(416) 984-7839 /\ \ \ DataVation Inc., Toronto Fax: (416) 665-8285 / \ \ \ WWW.DataVation.COM Email: MikeM@DataVation.COM From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 9 21:53:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA19206 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 21:53:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA19196 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 21:53:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA11711; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 21:47:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA11709 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 21:47:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA11698 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 21:47:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt2-65.HiWAAY.net [208.147.148.65]) by fly.HiWAAY.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA08028 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:53:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA01095 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:21:39 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199802100221.UAA01095@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Substitute Linux by MacOS??? In-reply-to: Message from jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za of "Sat, 09 Feb 1998 08:00:10 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 20:21:39 -0600 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za writes: > > i moved onto netatalk because i found even serving file data was too much [...] > wins: internet speed is about 5x higher. 200k/sec on T1 is now 1mb/sec; > also, stability (crashes are much less frequent, despite mklinux being > "development release" stuff). On a 1.54 million bit per second link you get 1 million bytes/sec? Even on a 10base ethernet 1MB/sec is a stretch only realized on a small net with little traffic. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 9 21:53:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA19214 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 21:53:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA19201 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 21:53:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA20126; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 21:54:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA20124 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 21:54:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA20119 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 21:54:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt2-65.HiWAAY.net [208.147.148.65]) by fly.HiWAAY.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA29510; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:53:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA01167; Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:28:09 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199802100228.UAA01167@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Peter Bolmehag cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: David Kelly Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] urgent: user volume does not show, word documents =?iso-8859-1?Q?can=B4t?= be read In-reply-to: Message from Peter Bolmehag of "Mon, 09 Feb 1998 12:57:58 +0100." <3.0.3.32.19980209125758.00702464@lundaforum.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 20:28:09 -0600 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > - When I save an excel document with pc and SAMBA in the Nacintosh file= > area. The mac can=B4t read it. They get the message "the file can=B4t b= e read". > If I take the same file and save it on a disk on a PC and open it on a = mac > the file can be read by mac excel with no problems. If I save a excel f= ile > on the linux box on a mac, that file can be read and changed on a PC us= ing > samba. It only fails if the file is created from scratch on a pc. Map your Excel extension ("*.xls"?) to the appropriate type/creator in AppleVolumes.system. You could hexdump the resource fork of an Excel = file created by a Mac to find the values your Mac user's like. Simply = cd to an .AppleDouble directory and hexdump an Excel file there. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 10 04:17:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA04399 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 04:17:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA04327 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 04:17:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA28398; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 04:11:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA28393 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 04:11:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at (germ2.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA28380 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 04:11:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from buster.retti.at (internet@pc1-c608.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.17]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.7/8.8.6 (l 3)) with ESMTP id KAA14580; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 10:17:00 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (m610.retti.at [192.168.0.13]) by buster.retti.at (8.8.3/8.8.3 (GR v 1.1)) with ESMTP id JAA12649; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 09:23:38 +0100 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 09:23:38 +0100 X-Sender: gregor@mail.retti.at Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980208234522.00864b30@wallace.khm.de> References: <3.0.5.32.19980208225344.00981ec0@wallace.khm.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Oliver Wrede From: Gregor Retti Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Substitute Linux by MacOS??? Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 23:45 Uhr +0100 08.02.1998, Oliver Wrede wrote: [SNIP] > > >I know that. I am supporting the usage of Linux even in Mac-enviroments >for server tasks. Problem is, that I need definitive "Don't do that!" >from experienced admins to convince people from my department to stay >on Linux and spent more time in learning to administer it. > I would never try to put all the functionality you need on a Mac-server. I have been running AppleShare-servers for about 7 years and I always had the problem to figure out a stable configuration. In fact this had to been done be pure try and error, since when the servers crash, they never tell you why. I finally ended up having every function performed by one Mac-Server only. If linux+netatalk had existed at that time, I would never have gone through all these troubles. On the other hand if people at your place do believe, they had control over Mac-Servers doing all these tasks, they are simply wrong. regards gregor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ----------- http://germanistik.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 10 11:56:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA03602 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 11:56:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA03588 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 11:56:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA00536; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 11:57:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA00511 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 11:57:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (FOCUS.NEUSC.BCM.TMC.EDU [128.249.25.177]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA00482 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 11:57:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (cf.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu [128.249.25.169]) by focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05048 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 10:55:29 -0600 Message-ID: <34E0869E.BE9017CD@focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu> Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 10:56:01 -0600 From: Geoff Ghose Reply-To: geoff@focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu Organization: Baylor College of Medicine/HHMI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] afpd IP access fails for guest Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm having a rather strange problem. I set up a pub directory that is accessable by both anon-ftp and guest AppleShare IP login. When I (locally) try guest access everything works fine. However, when a colleague in Germany tries, he gets connection refused messages, and I on the server get: Feb 10 07:20:56 focus afpd[6653]: refused connect from sts.sfb.uni-tuebingen.de Feb 10 07:20:56 focus afpd[6653]: dsi_getsess: Unknown error He has no problems with anon-ftp to the same directory. (So it's not a permission or obvious Internet problem). Running atalk-1.4b2asun17 with RH 4.2. Did I have a configuration problem, or is this a bug? HELP. -- ************************************************************************* Geoff Ghose Div. of Neuroscience One Baylor Plaza S603 Baylor College of Medicine Houston, TX 77030 (713) 798-3277 Fax:(713) 798-3282 Internet: geoff@focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu gghose@bcm.tmc.edu http://focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu/~geoff PGP key: http://focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu/~geoff/pub-pgp-key And what is more, I agree with everything I have just said. - Piet Koornhoff From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 10 12:25:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA05663 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 12:25:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA05591 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 12:24:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA12494; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 12:26:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA12492 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 12:26:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from safir.spray.fi (safir.spray.fi [195.10.150.130]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id MAA12467 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 12:26:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 29599 invoked by uid 500); 10 Feb 1998 17:24:36 -0000 To: Chad Campbell Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, kulua@raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] strange netatalk death References: From: Osma Ahvenlampi Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.95) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 10 Feb 1998 19:24:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: Chad Campbell's message of "Thu, 5 Feb 1998 08:53:13 -0600 (CST)" Message-ID: Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Chad Campbell writes: > anything. I think yesterday I figured out what's happening. It appears > that something is going wrong whenever anyone enters an incorrect > password. After that happens, no one else can even connect. Also, if I Upgrade to netatalk1.4b2+asun. Fixes that and many, many other problems. (this should be a RedHat FAQ: the netatalk RPM they ship is broken) -- Some people are discovered; others are found out. Osma Ahvenlampi From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 10 12:46:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA06902 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 12:46:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA06898 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 12:45:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA03154; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 12:45:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA03152 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 12:45:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from gate.pubserv.com ([208.130.167.4]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id MAA03148 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 12:45:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by gate.pubserv.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA10556 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 11:25:39 -0600 Received: from morgana.pubserv.com(204.253.233.11) by gate.pubserv.com via smap (V1.3) id sma010554; Tue Feb 10 11:25:08 1998 Received: from Mufasa.pubserv.com by morgana.pubserv.com with SMTP id AA29504 (5.64+/IDA-1.3.3 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu); Tue, 10 Feb 98 11:52:50 -0600 Received: from localhost (rich@localhost) by Mufasa.pubserv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA11499 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 11:52:49 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: Mufasa.pubserv.com: rich owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 11:52:48 -0600 (CST) From: Richard Mann X-Sender: rich@Mufasa.pubserv.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Substitute Linux by MacOS??? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Gary E. Bickford wrote: > According to my compatriots here, folks generally shouldn't use the MacOS > for servers, but should use the Workgroup Server. Same reason as there's > NT workstation and NT server - the std. OS8 is set up for workstations, and > doesn't have the performance tuning & features you need. > > That said, a lot of folks grudgingly admit the NT appleshare server is > faster, for now... (choke, gasp) > GEB Says who? When I run NT Server 4.0 on a machine with the exact same hardware as our Linux server, the NT's Apple file sharing is dramatically slower than the Linux box's. We had to bail out of NT [3.51] after about one year, due to the poor performance of NT and DiskShare NFS for NT. We've been running InfoMagic Workgroup Server v. 2.1 (based on RedHat 4.1) since it came out last year, and all of a sudden network filesharing to the Macs was no longer an issue. (Besides a few MacOS shortcomings...) This in sharing about 45 GB of data SCSI-3, 80% of that to Mac's. (Sound of steps leaving soap box...) //\ --rich // \ // / \ Richard Mann -- Network Administrator // / / \ P u b l i c a t i o n S e r v i c e s, I n c. \\ / / / Champaign, Illinois, USA 61821 (217) 398-2060 x22 \\ / / \\ / \\/ From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 10 13:06:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA08075 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:06:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA08071 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:06:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA19952; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:00:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA19941 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:00:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from prawn.amxdigital.com (dns0.amxdigital.com [195.238.161.131]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id NAA19878 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:00:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from phong.amxdigital.com by prawn.amxdigital.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id KAA12801; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 10:58:26 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980210180531.00743ba4@amxdigital.com> X-Sender: jon@amxdigital.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 18:05:31 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Jonathan Peterson Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Substitute Linux by MacOS??? In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 11:52 AM 2/10/98 -0600, Richard Mann wrote: > Says who? When I run NT Server 4.0 on a machine with the > exact same hardware as our Linux server, the NT's Apple file > sharing is dramatically slower than the Linux box's. When I looked at Services for Macintosh on NT Server 4.0, I was distressed to find that it did not seem to lock files! I use samba + netatalk(4.b3) + Linux to get my hetergenous network talking to each other, and although samba and netatalk don't quite seem to agree, at least they won't let mac users save a file on top of one that a PC user still has open! NT, at least in the default set up, did exactly that. -------- Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 'Never never never never never' -- Shakespeare From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 10 14:20:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA10707 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 14:20:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA10703 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 14:20:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA04207; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 14:21:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA03872 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 14:20:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA03846 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 14:20:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24032; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 11:19:16 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA25004; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 11:19:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 11:19:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199802101919.LAA25004@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: geoff@focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <34E0869E.BE9017CD@focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu> (message from Geoff Ghose on Tue, 10 Feb 1998 10:56:01 -0600) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] afpd IP access fails for guest Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Feb 10 07:20:56 focus afpd[6653]: refused connect from sts.sfb.uni-tuebingen.de Feb 10 07:20:56 focus afpd[6653]: dsi_getsess: Unknown error it looks like you're running with tcp wrappers enabled and aren't allowing connects from the above host. if you want to enable access, you'll need to add an afpd line to hosts.allow. Running atalk-1.4b2asun17 with RH 4.2. update to a18.2 as it has some fixes and new features. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 10 15:35:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA13285 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 15:35:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA13277 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 15:35:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA18105; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 15:35:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA18032 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 15:35:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from oberon.math.ukans.edu (oberon.math.ukans.edu [129.237.128.5]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA17964 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 15:35:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from oin.math.ukans.edu (buller@oin [129.237.131.20]) by oberon.math.ukans.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA19404; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 14:35:21 -0600 (CST) Received: (from buller@localhost) by oin.math.ukans.edu (8.8.5/8.8.7) id OAA14970; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 14:34:30 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 14:34:30 -0600 (CST) From: Tim Buller X-Sender: buller@oin To: Osma Ahvenlampi cc: Chad Campbell , netatalk-admins@umich.edu, kulua@raven.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] strange netatalk death In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On 10 Feb 1998, Osma Ahvenlampi wrote: > Chad Campbell writes: > > anything. I think yesterday I figured out what's happening. It appears > > that something is going wrong whenever anyone enters an incorrect > > password. After that happens, no one else can even connect. Also, if I > > Upgrade to netatalk1.4b2+asun. Fixes that and many, many other problems. > > (this should be a RedHat FAQ: the netatalk RPM they ship is broken) The Debian 1.3.1 package was broken for me as well; I installed 1.4b2 straight up and have had no problems with it... Tim ==== Tim Buller buller@math.ukans.edu Systems Specialist Snow Hall 643, (785) 864-7311 Department of Mathematics University of Kansas, Lawrence, KS 66045 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 10 19:03:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA21106 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 19:03:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA21102 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 19:03:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA26399; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 19:04:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA26397 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 19:04:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA26383 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 19:04:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA14311; Tue, 10 Feb 1998 23:04:56 GMT Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 23:04:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, linux-atalk@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] kernel: ARP: arp called for own IP address Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I received the following error message in my syslog after trying to connect from a Mac client. Does anyone know what caused it or if it indicates a problem? Feb 10 22:42:59 frank kernel: ARP: arp called for own IP address The server is running Linux kernel 2.0.33 and Netatalk 1.4b2+asun2.0a18. The client is MacOS 8.0, OT 1.2.1, AS Client 3.7.2. The problem seemed to go away after I restarted the client machine. No, the client does not have the same IP address as the server, but it is on the same subnet. -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 11 03:01:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id DAA08723 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 03:01:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA08719 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 03:01:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id DAA20293; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 03:02:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id DAA20289 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 03:02:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from zifi.genetics.utah.edu (zifi.genetics.utah.edu [155.100.229.31]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA20284 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 03:02:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from zinc@localhost) by zifi.genetics.utah.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7/pjf) id BAA16293; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 01:01:42 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 01:01:42 -0700 Message-Id: <199802110801.BAA16293@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> From: patrick finerty To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] purpose of PAM, crypt, and DES X-Mailer: VM 6.40 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Organization: planet of the monkey boys X-URL: http://zifi.genetics.utah.edu/~zinc X-Face: &dh1aHu*v\s24A9~2qU[ln~;(Cz#X]d2r-@X>#j9U@vx!v8%IYU''n-H1D)}U(-0Te~ LD|Cyg6Gh-aFN{B*VSKhs}en{nXo3xkveE#BxR9 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA27351 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 06:36:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA27347 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 06:36:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA26239; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 06:36:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA26237 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 06:36:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from prawn.amxdigital.com (dns0.amxdigital.com [195.238.161.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id GAA26214 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 06:36:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from phong.amxdigital.com by prawn.amxdigital.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id EAA13256; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 04:28:41 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980211113551.0076a240@amxdigital.com> X-Sender: jon@amxdigital.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 11:35:51 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Jonathan Peterson Subject: [netatalk-admins] Icon\r files In-Reply-To: <199802110801.BAA16293@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I spend many happy hours trying to get my Win95 and MacOS8.0 people sharing a linux drive. I'm largely succesful, but Win95 machines just will not delete the 'Icon\r' files that get created by Macs. The \r in the file name is just how my bash shell displays what I presume is a carriage return character. In windows the file is called Icon followed by a thick black vertical bar. Anyway, I thought maybe there was a way (albeit a source code hack) to get Netatalk (I use 1.4b3) to call these Icon files something different. Any ideas? -------- Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 'Never never never never never' -- Shakespeare From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 11 12:43:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA05504 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:43:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA05500 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:43:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA27506; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:44:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA27499 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:44:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from prawn.amxdigital.com (dns0.amxdigital.com [195.238.161.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id MAA27422 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:44:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from phong.amxdigital.com by prawn.amxdigital.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) id KAA13663; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 10:33:12 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980211174024.00cbbeb0@amxdigital.com> X-Sender: jon@amxdigital.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 17:40:24 +0000 To: Marc Matteo From: Jonathan Peterson Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Icon\r files Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.19980211113551.0076a240@amxdigital.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 09:23 AM 2/11/98 -0800, Marc Matteo wrote: >On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > >> I spend many happy hours trying to get my Win95 and MacOS8.0 people sharing >> a linux drive. I'm largely succesful, but Win95 machines just will not >> delete the 'Icon\r' files that get created by Macs. > >If you are using Samba to serve the Win folk then a like in your Samba >config file like: > >veto files = /.Apple*/Trash Can*/Temporary Items/Icon*/ > >Will clear out all the Netatalk stuff. Ah, if only. What I find is that this prevents the PC's from deleting any of these files, which is great until they want to delete the whole directory. At that point samba tells them that the directory is not empty, which is slightly confusing for the PC users, since the directory _looks_ empty. Using: hide files = /.Apple*/Trash Can*/Temporary Items/Icon*/ is better, but I still get trouble from the Icon\r file. -------- Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 'Never never never never never' -- Shakespeare From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 11 13:31:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA06979 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:31:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA06974 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:30:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA01321; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:30:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA01268 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:30:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA01247 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:30:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA18608; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 10:29:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from UNKNOWN(), claiming to be "current1.whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd018601; Wed Feb 11 10:29:15 1998 Message-ID: <34E1ED19.41C67EA6@whistle.com> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 10:25:29 -0800 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Peterson CC: Marc Matteo , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Icon\r files References: <3.0.1.32.19980211113551.0076a240@amxdigital.com> <3.0.1.32.19980211174024.00cbbeb0@amxdigital.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Jonathan Peterson wrote: > > At 09:23 AM 2/11/98 -0800, Marc Matteo wrote: > >On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > > > >> I spend many happy hours trying to get my Win95 and MacOS8.0 people sharing > >> a linux drive. I'm largely succesful, but Win95 machines just will not > >> delete the 'Icon\r' files that get created by Macs. > > > >If you are using Samba to serve the Win folk then a like in your Samba > >config file like: > > > >veto files = /.Apple*/Trash Can*/Temporary Items/Icon*/ > > > >Will clear out all the Netatalk stuff. > > Ah, if only. What I find is that this prevents the PC's from deleting any > of these files, which is great until they want to delete the whole > directory. At that point samba tells them that the directory is not empty, > which is slightly confusing for the PC users, since the directory _looks_ > empty. Using: > > hide files = /.Apple*/Trash Can*/Temporary Items/Icon*/ > > is better, but I still get trouble from the Icon\r file. the PC user CAN't look inthe directory if veto is used.. there is an option in samba to allow veto'd directories to be deleted if they would otherwise appear empty to the user. > > -------- > Jon Peterson > jon@amxdigital.com > +44 (0)171 613 5300 > > 'Never never never never never' > -- Shakespeare From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 11 13:39:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA07451 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:39:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA07444 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA20472; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:40:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA20430 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:40:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from rice.farm.niu.edu (rice.farm.niu.edu [131.156.99.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA20357 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 13:40:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from [131.156.7.61] (moe.acs.niu.edu [131.156.7.61]) by rice.farm.niu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08863 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:38:43 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: z954043@rice.farm.niu.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:38:39 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Brian Bergstrand Subject: [netatalk-admins] Guests can see Applevolumes.system? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Anyone have any idea why guests can see the exported stuff in Applevolumes.system (except for ~ of course)? Here are the relevant files: cypress%more AppleVolumes.* :::::::::::::: AppleVolumes.default :::::::::::::: #default apple volumes everyone sees /usr/local/export/atalk/labs "Mac Apps" :::::::::::::: AppleVolumes.system :::::::::::::: #appletalk volumes only users can see ~/ "Home" /usr/local/export/atalk/tech "Tech Disk" I have confirmed this on clients running 8.1 and 7.5.5. Running netatalk 1.4b2+asun18.2, Slak 3.4 with kernel 2.0.33. I don' have PAM, DES, or TCPWRAPPER support compiled in. It was compiled with -DSHADWOPW in afpd and -DNEED_QUOTA_WRAPPER (i think that is what it is called) in sys/linux. Thanks Brian Brian Bergstrand Network Specialist - ACS Northern Illinois University 815-753-8547 bbergstrand@niu.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 11 16:40:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA12766 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 16:40:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA12760 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 16:40:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA18381; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 16:34:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA18370 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 16:34:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-in1.inet.tele.dk (mail-in1.inet.tele.dk [194.182.148.158]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id QAA18316 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 16:34:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 12353 invoked from network); 11 Feb 1998 21:40:14 -0000 Received: from post5.tele.dk (194.239.134.168) by mail-in1.inet.tele.dk with SMTP; 11 Feb 1998 21:40:14 -0000 Received: from [194.239.109.46] by post5.tele.dk (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA25438; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 22:40:12 +0100 Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Q: Printing via netatalk to parallel prt on SS10 Date: Wed, 11 Feb 98 22:40:13 +0100 x-sender: 120010406944@post5.tele.dk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Henrik Andre Wyss Johansen To: "Lukas Karrer" cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <19980211214011.AAA25438@[194.239.109.46]> Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi Lucas I did have the same problem, i solved the problem by setting pr to = the name of my printer in the linux printer def. file (printcap i am = using RH 4.2). This is my printcap LaserJet_6L|ljet|lp|local0|LPT1:\ :sd=3D/var/spool/lpd/ljet4:\ :mx#0:\ :sh:\ :lp=3D/dev/lp1:\ :if=3D/var/spool/lpd/ljet4/filter: This is my papd.conf. LaserJet_6L:\ :pr=3DLaserJet_6L:op=3Droot:\ :pd=3D/usr/share/lib/ppd/LaserJet_4.PPD: So i think that you shuld set pr to QMS-PS410 and not lpr. Try = "pr=3DQMS-PS410" or "pr=3D/usr/ucb/QMS-PS410" >Printing is set up: > >QMS-PS410:\ > :bsdaddr=3Dsokrates,QMS-PS410,Solaris:\ > :description=3DQMS-PS410: >_default:\ > :use=3DQMS-PS410: > >I configured papd as follows: (as was statet in the FAQ @ >http://www.cec.mtu.edu/Doc/FAQ/netatalk.html > >QMS-PS410:\ > :pr=3D|/usr/ucb/lpr:\ Why ^ ? > :op=3Ddaemon:\ > :pd=3D/opt/atalk/ppd/QMS-PS410 > >the printer shows up in the chooser on my mac. I can mount Volumes. Venlig hilsen Henrik Andr=E9 Wyss Johansen From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 11 17:15:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA14561 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 17:15:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA14542 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 17:15:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA21728; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 17:16:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA21723 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 17:16:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from toolshed.artschool.utas.edu.au (toolshed.artschool.utas.edu.au [131.217.85.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA21638 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 17:16:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from toolshed.artschool.utas.edu.au (ppp-client.artschool.utas.edu.au [131.217.85.21]) by toolshed.artschool.utas.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA15959 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:13:49 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from hart@toolshed.artschool.utas.edu.au) Message-ID: <34E2B2E3.80FBC4F@toolshed.artschool.utas.edu.au> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:29:27 +0100 From: Bill Hart Reply-To: hart@toolshed.artschool.utas.edu.au Organization: Tasmanian School of Art X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] 3 trys and you crash Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I've recently converted to netatalk 1.4b3 + asun 18.2 after using cap60 for serveral years. Conversion is a bit of a nightmare for 10GB of macintosh files but... Administrators of the software have access to half a dozen volumes on the machine, and so often go back to the chooser to mount extra volumes in a session. First time works fine, second time the server name gets corrupted, third time the mac crashes. This behaviour observed on FreeBSD 2.2.5, and MacOS 7.6.1,8.0,8.1 Haven't as yet tried a linux server to see if it has the same problem... Not a huge problem, but anyone else observed this ? From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 11 19:53:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA19206 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:53:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA19190 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:53:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA24452; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:47:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA24450 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:47:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA24446 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:47:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14652; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:53:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from cec.mtu.edu (root@cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.196]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17215; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:53:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from critter.cec.mtu.edu (critter.cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.204]) by cec.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/mtumailer-1.2) with SMTP id TAA18354; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:53:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:53:54 -0500 (EST) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@critter.cec.mtu.edu To: Henrik Andre Wyss Johansen cc: Lukas Karrer , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Q: Printing via netatalk to parallel prt on SS10 In-Reply-To: <19980211214011.AAA25438@[194.239.109.46]> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Henrik Andre Wyss Johansen wrote: > I did have the same problem, i solved the problem by setting pr to the name of > my printer in the linux printer def. file (printcap i am using RH 4.2). [ snip ] > So i think that you shuld set pr to QMS-PS410 and not lpr. Try "pr=QMS-PS410" or "pr=/usr/ucb/QMS-PS410" Bzzt. You're lucky that papd printing works out of the box for you with Linux. Under Solaris 2's lp system, or the LPRng lpr replacement, you can't use the built-in spool-directory-twiddling routines. > >QMS-PS410:\ > > :pr=|/usr/ucb/lpr:\ > Why ^ ? Because the | means "start up /usr/ucb/lpr and pipe the file to be printed to that program." I would recommend using 'pr=/path/to/lpr -Pprintername' as its the only way that's worked for me. That's why its on the web page. But I've only been skimming this list lately so I may have missed some other detail. - edan -- Edan Idzerda System Administrator -- Michigan Technological University, Houghton MI USA From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 11 20:42:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA21059 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 20:42:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA21051 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 20:42:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA05175 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:23:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA02953; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:23:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA02913 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:23:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from outpost.localdomain (mmatteo.ns.net [204.119.243.162]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA02878 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 12:23:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (mmatteo@localhost) by outpost.localdomain (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA01105; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 09:23:25 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: outpost.localdomain: mmatteo owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 09:23:25 -0800 (PST) From: Marc Matteo X-Sender: mmatteo@outpost.localdomain To: Jonathan Peterson cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Icon\r files In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980211113551.0076a240@amxdigital.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > I spend many happy hours trying to get my Win95 and MacOS8.0 people sharing > a linux drive. I'm largely succesful, but Win95 machines just will not > delete the 'Icon\r' files that get created by Macs. If you are using Samba to serve the Win folk then a like in your Samba config file like: veto files = /.Apple*/Trash Can*/Temporary Items/Icon*/ Will clear out all the Netatalk stuff. Marc Marc Matteo Web Engineer, The Sacramento Bee http://www.sacbee.com From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 11 21:03:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA22451 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 21:03:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA22446 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 21:03:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA11660; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 20:57:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA11645 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 20:57:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from dallas-cs-000.novare.net (dallas-cs-000.novare.net [205.229.104.10]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA11635 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 20:57:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from muggles (mark@muggles.novare.net [205.229.105.72]) by dallas-cs-000.novare.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA22653; Wed, 11 Feb 1998 20:09:30 -0600 Message-ID: <34E259EA.543C9883@novare.net> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 20:09:46 -0600 From: m* Organization: Novare' X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marc Matteo CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Icon\r files References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Marc Matteo wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Feb 1998, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > > > I spend many happy hours trying to get my Win95 and MacOS8.0 people sharing > > a linux drive. I'm largely succesful, but Win95 machines just will not > > delete the 'Icon\r' files that get created by Macs. > > If you are using Samba to serve the Win folk then a like in your Samba > config file like: > > veto files = /.Apple*/Trash Can*/Temporary Items/Icon*/ > i guess this service parm will hold true for copies too? that is, your copy on Windoze won't crash because of that pesky Icon file? thx, m* From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 12 06:29:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA24335 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 06:29:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA24331 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 06:29:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA09791; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 06:23:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA09789 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 06:22:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from lundaforum.se (lundaforum-gw.ideon.se [193.45.79.26]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA09785 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 06:22:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from trailer3.telia.com (t1o63p207.telia.com [195.198.44.207]) by lundaforum.se (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id NAA22225 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 13:16:22 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980212122921.006db340@lundaforum.se> X-Sender: pb@lundaforum.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:29:21 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Peter Bolmehag Subject: [netatalk-admins] urgent: type/creator for excel files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu What is the type/creator code for excel files? I need to make netatalk understand excel files stored by a pc on the linux box. What do I write in Applevolumes.system? Peter From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 12 07:04:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA25427 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:04:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA25423 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:04:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA17729; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:04:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA17727 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:04:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.imaginet.co.uk (tanya.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.16]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id HAA17722 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 07:04:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 12:02:54 +0000 (GMT) From: Vivek To: Peter Bolmehag cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] urgent: type/creator for excel files In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980212122921.006db340@lundaforum.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Peter Bolmehag wrote: > > > What is the type/creator code for excel files? I need to make netatalk > understand excel files stored by a pc on the linux box. .xl XLS4 XCEL Excel Spreadsheet .xlc XLC4 XCEL Excel Chart .xlm XLM4 XCEL Excel Macro .xls XLS4 XCEL Excel Spreadsheet Whenin doubt, create a file on a mac, and save it to a netatalked directory - then go into the .AppleDouble directory there, and have a look in the file of the same name there: netatalked-directory/some_file netatalked-directory/.Appleouble/some_file That'll have the type/creator info you need. Alternatively, if you have resedit on the Mac, you can use that. -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 12 08:20:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA26909 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:20:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA26896 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:20:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA26361; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:14:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA26353 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:14:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id IAA26347 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:14:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from majink1.itc.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa14484; 12 Feb 98 8:20 EST Received: from majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU (majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU [128.143.12.118]) by majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA02341 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:20:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199802121320.IAA02341@majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:20:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert J. Marinchick" Reply-To: "Robert J. Marinchick" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Mac folders/files on Solaris 2.6 box To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: WHbYbyGo2ib0lmnBvieHGw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4c sparc Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi Folks, I have netatalk1-4.b2 working on a Solaris 2.6 box. The machine name is majink1. We are currently testing the Mac interface and my Mac tester has experienced the following inconsistancies: --------------------------- I drag a folder from the Macintosh to a window displaying my home directory, which is actually on home1.itc but mounted on majink1. I get message that the folder cannot be written because I "don't have enough access privileges". I own my home directory, and the owner has all permissions. And the Guest subdirectory on majink1 is set to 777. Despite the message, the directory _is_ created and shows up on the Mac side. If there were files in the folder being copied I get the message that the files could not be written because they could not be found (odd message). The files are _not_ created. ------------------------ I added the 3 Solaris patches @ Umich.edu, and remade netatalk. My Mac tester now gets: -------------------------- The folder copying problem is still there. However, I found that this only occurs at the top level of my home directory. I have all rights to my home directory, but perhaps the process is trying to write to the parent directory? At any rate, an easy workaround is to just keep all Mac files in a folder under my home directory, rather than directly in home. This seems to work. It also corrects some flakiness related to deleting folders. On to the next problem. SimpleText is a basic text editor that comes with every Mac. If you create a file with SimpleText and save it on the unix host running atalk it does not get saved. No error message or indication of trouble, but the file is not there, or on local storage either. I tested SimpleText first because it is so common and basic. But now I have gone on to test some other applications. WordPerfect and BBEdit Lite, a public domain editor were ok on a quick test. However, SuperPaint has a problem: when you revise a file, then try to save the revision, you get a spurious error that the disk is full. --------------------------------- Has anyone experienced these problems? Are there any solutions? As always, all help is greatly appreciated. Bob Marinchick rjm8m@Virginia.Edu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 12 09:23:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA28441 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:23:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA28437 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:23:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA22416; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:23:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA22406 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:23:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from morris.glam.ac.uk (morris.glam.ac.uk [193.63.134.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA20731 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:19:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from ems2.glam.ac.uk by morris.glam.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 12 Feb 1998 14:25:00 +0000 Received: by EMS2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 14:17:37 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Wilkins M (ISD)" To: "'netatalk-admins@umich.edu'" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Doh! Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 14:17:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi All! Firstly. Please don't laugh.. I know this is something little and stupid that I just can't see. My Mac can't see my linux box. :'( I have compiled and running (I hope!) netatalk 1.4b2 on my linux box, which also is allready in use as a NFS file/print server by dosboxes, and as an SMB server by wintel boxes. (and FWIW as a kermit server by a varied bunch of old 6502/Z80 based machines!) ps shows the various programs running, and no nasty errors are being logged. So I have assumed the linux end of things to be happy. My only apple with Ethernet is an SE running system 6.0summit, fitted with a Kinetics Etherport SE. This works fine as an appletalk (via serial ports) client off my quadra 700 running System 7.1 (which doesn't have an ethernet txvr yet) I can't upgrade the SE to system 7 as the etherport's driver doesn't work with System 7. Does system 6 work as a client from a netatalk box? Something I have made no mention of is addresses.. This is because I haven't got a clue what they are for, and have left things as they come from the box. both/all computers are effectively on a single segment of ethernet. I don't have an appletalk router. Can anyone recommend a doc i can ftp/http on appletalk zones/names/addresses? I've only used MacTCP/Netscape on ethernet connected macs before, and appletalk on non-ethernetted macs. Both times have been poke/hope/bingo. Any hints much appreciated. TIA! M. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 12 09:49:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA29434 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:49:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA29423 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:49:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA02418; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:49:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA02376 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:49:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from infolive.ie (gateway.infolive.ie [193.120.120.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA02252 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 09:49:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from scope.ie ([10.0.0.20]) by gateway.infolive.ie with ESMTP id <20614>; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 13:34:34 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.71] by scope.ie with ESMTP (MailShare 1.0fc5); Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:12:06 +0000 X-Sender: moran@10.0.0.20 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Tony Moran Subject: [netatalk-admins] Mac Type/Creator Utility Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:12:06 +0000 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Theres a great lil' utility (Shareware I think) called Snitch - it reports and allows you to modify, lots of file attributes including Type/Creator strings and creation dates and so on. It can be used on a file on a Netatalk Volume, which can be quite handy. Web Site is: http://www.niftyneato.com Tony __________________________________________________ Tony Moran IT Manager Ph: (+353-1)-8303455 Scope Communications. Fax: (+353-1)-8300888 http://www.infolive.ie http://www.jobfinder.ie Ireland's online Jobs and IT resources Web Site - Check us out ! __________________________________________________ How to complain about Spam: http://weber.ucsd.edu/~pagre/spam.html From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 12 10:28:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA01086 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:28:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA01068 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:28:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA19687; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:28:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA19682 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:28:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from gtpd.police.gatech.edu (gtpd.police.gatech.edu [130.207.68.75]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA19671 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:28:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from [130.207.68.58] (sysadmin.police.gatech.edu [130.207.68.58]) by gtpd.police.gatech.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07014 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:28:28 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: brad@130.207.68.75 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:28:25 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: "Brad E. Wagner" Subject: [netatalk-admins] atalkd route errors: No Such File or Directory Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hey Folks- I really dislike putting long lists like the one below on the mailing list, but I was wondering if anyone has any input into what might be generating these console messages, especially since they are occurring before folks show up to log into the netatalk server. Nothing more descriptive is making it into syslog. I note that the route: numbers referenced are increasing by one each time. Thoughts?? Solutions?? Background: Netatalk 1.4b2 with AFP patches on a Sun Ultra 2 running Solaris 2.5.1. Just installed on Monday, compiled fine. /usr/local/atalk/etc/atalkd.conf only has line with following: hme0 The rest is autodetecting. I can mount the volumes of any unix user (home dir) and other than a small speed hit on populating the icons in the window, all seems to function fine. Thanks for your time and assistance. Feb 11 22:02:20 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32180 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 11 22:02:20 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32190 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 11 22:02:20 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32200 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 11 22:02:20 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32210 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 11 22:02:20 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32220 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 11 22:02:20 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32227 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32250 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32251 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32252 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32253 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32254 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32255 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32256 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32257 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32258 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32259 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32310 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32311 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32312 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32313 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32314 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32315 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32316 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32317 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32318 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32319 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32330 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32331 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32332 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32333 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32334 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32335 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32336 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32337 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32338 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32339 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32390 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32391 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32392 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32393 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32394 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32395 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32396 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32397 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32398 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 07:57:11 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 32399 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 08:20:32 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 30339 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 08:33:22 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 30339 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Feb 12 08:35:32 gtpd atalkd[3536]: route: 30320 -> 30680.149: No such file or directory Enjoy, Brad Brad E. Wagner e-mail: brad.wagner@police.gatech.edu Systems Administrator Office: (404) 894-6807 Ga Tech Police Department Fax: (404) 894-6808 Atlanta, GA 30332-0440 Web: http://www.police.gatech.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 13 07:30:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA14406 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 07:30:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA14399 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 07:30:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id HAA06354; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 07:31:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id HAA06239 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 07:30:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at (germ2.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA06158 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 07:30:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from buster.retti.at (internet@pc1-c608.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.17]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.7/8.8.6 (l 3)) with ESMTP id NAA00208; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:28:53 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (m610.retti.at [192.168.0.13]) by buster.retti.at (8.8.3/8.8.3 (GR v 1.1)) with ESMTP id NAA24324; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:28:02 +0100 Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:28:02 +0100 X-Sender: gregor@mail.retti.at Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Wilkins M (ISD)" , "'netatalk-admins@umich.edu'" From: Gregor Retti Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Doh! Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 14:17 Uhr +0000 12.02.1998, Wilkins M (ISD) wrote: >Hi All! > >Firstly. Please don't laugh.. I know this is something little and stupid >that I just can't see. > >My Mac can't see my linux box. :'( > >I have compiled and running (I hope!) netatalk 1.4b2 on my linux box, >which also is allready in use as a NFS file/print server by dosboxes, >and as an SMB server by wintel boxes. (and FWIW as a kermit server by a >varied bunch of old 6502/Z80 based machines!) > >ps shows the various programs running, and no nasty errors are being >logged. So I have assumed the linux end of things to be happy. > >My only apple with Ethernet is an SE running system 6.0summit, fitted >with a Kinetics Etherport SE. This works fine as an appletalk (via >serial ports) client off my quadra 700 running System 7.1 (which doesn't >have an ethernet txvr yet) I can't upgrade the SE to system 7 as the >etherport's driver doesn't work with System 7. > if your SE and quadra are connected thru localtalk ("serial") then your SE can not have appletalk running at the same time on the ethernet port. you must switch the port in the control panel. i suggest you get yourself a traceiver for the quadra and have all machines on ethernet. >Does system 6 work as a client from a netatalk box? > did not try it ... >Something I have made no mention of is addresses.. This is because I >haven't got a clue what they are for, and have left things as they come >from the box. both/all computers are effectively on a single segment of >ethernet. I don't have an appletalk router. > >Can anyone recommend a doc i can ftp/http on appletalk >zones/names/addresses? I've only used MacTCP/Netscape on ethernet >connected macs before, and appletalk on non-ethernetted macs. Both times >have been poke/hope/bingo. > good luck gregor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ----------- http://germanistik.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 13 08:31:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA15712 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 08:31:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA15708 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 08:31:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA14964; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 08:30:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA14747 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 08:30:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ux4.sp.cs.cmu.edu (UX4.SP.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.198.104]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id IAA14577 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 08:29:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from FISH.PRODIGY.CS.CMU.EDU by ux4.sp.cs.cmu.edu id aa17517; 13 Feb 98 8:29 EST X-Sender: will@ux4.sp.cs.cmu.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 08:29:01 -0500 To: netatalk-admins From: William Uther Subject: [netatalk-admins] MacIP routing? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm guessing not, but is there any way to get netatalk to perform MacIP routing? MacIP is Apple's way of wrapping IP inside appletalk packets. Normally you use something like a gaterbox router to strip the appletalk packets off and send out the raw IP. When an IP packet comes back to the router it is wrapped in an appletalk packet and forwarded back to the Mac. Is there any way to get netatalk to do the same thing? \x/ill :-} William Uther "When I die I want to go quietly, will@cs.cmu.edu in my sleep like my Grandfather, Dept. of Computer Science, not screaming like the passengers in his car" Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~will/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 13 10:25:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA18868 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:25:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA18863 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:25:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA18915; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:26:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA18913 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:26:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from jerseycape.com (mail.jerseycape.com [206.66.24.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id KAA18902 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:26:42 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:25:48 -0500 Received: from k-mccord.ac-coin.com [208.204.224.254] by jerseycape.com with smtp id AKBJAGFG ; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:25:06 -0500 Message-ID: <001101bd3894$83effba0$fd03a8c0@k-mccord.ac-coin.com> From: "Ken McCord" To: Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk Routing Problem... Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:31:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Having a problem routing with Netatalk 1.4b2.. Network is configured as follows: Alpha zone (numbered 2-2) - DMZ zone (1-1) - Linux router - Beta zone (3-3) Linux router ('scoobiedoo') is configured to route IP, IPX and Appletalk (IP and IPX route with no problem). Atalkd.conf is set to: To DMZ zone: eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 1 -addr 1.72 -zone "DMZ" TO Beta zone: eth1 -seed -phase 2 -net 3 -addr 3.251 -zone "BETA" Macs on the Beta zone can see the entire network. For example, they can see Macs in the Alpha zone using Timbuktu Pro. Macs on the Alpha network can see Macs on the DMZ zone, but not the Beta zone. One strange thing I noticed... using ATCON on our Netware server (in the Beta zone), scoobiedoo advertises itself in the DMZ zone, but with the 3.251 address. Shouldn't this be the 1.72 address?? Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks, Ken McCord MIS Manager AC Coin and Slot From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 13 13:43:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA00345 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:43:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA00334 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:43:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA17084 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 09:21:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA12680; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 09:21:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA12659 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 09:21:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from edtech.cc.nd.edu (edtech.cc.nd.edu [129.74.34.110]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA12638 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 09:21:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from nd.edu (kb.cc.nd.edu [129.74.34.90]) by edtech.cc.nd.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14246; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 09:21:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34E456DC.F9C95D12@nd.edu> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 09:21:22 -0500 From: Kevin Barry Reply-To: kbarry2@nd.edu Organization: University of Notre Dame X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] PC extension Mappings for netatalk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, We are going to use the extension mapping capabilities of the netatalk translator to improve compatability among Macs and Windows machines. I am hoping to find someone that has a list of Windows extensions and associated Macintosh type and creator information. Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Best, Kevin kbarry2@nd.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 13 15:42:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA06164 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:42:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from ripstick.engin.umich.edu (ripstick.engin.umich.edu [141.212.160.87]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA06159 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:42:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by ripstick.engin.umich.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with X.500 id PAA07659; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:42:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by ripstick.engin.umich.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with X.500 id PAA07657 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:42:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (wagnerer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ripstick.engin.umich.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA07653; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:42:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:42:01 -0500 (EST) From: Eric C Wagner X-Sender: wagnerer@ripstick.engin.umich.edu To: William Uther cc: netatalk-admins Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] MacIP routing? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Take a look at http://www.promo.de.pub/people/stefan/netatalk. He has code for doing this under netatalk using FreeBSD. I just found it last night so I can't comment on the difficulty of porting it to other platforms. A quick compile failed on NetBSD due to different ways in which the /dev/tuns are setup. Good Luck, Eric /*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\* Eric Wagner Phone : 734-647-5525 1962 Cooley Building Fax : 734-763-4540 University of Michigan E-Mail: wagnerer@umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48109 WWW : http://www.umich.edu/~wagnerer Quote of the day: Maybe you can't buy happiness, but these days you can certainly charge it. On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, William Uther wrote: > Hi, > I'm guessing not, but is there any way to get netatalk to perform MacIP > routing? MacIP is Apple's way of wrapping IP inside appletalk packets. > Normally you use something like a gaterbox router to strip the appletalk > packets off and send out the raw IP. When an IP packet comes back to the > router it is wrapped in an appletalk packet and forwarded back to the Mac. > Is there any way to get netatalk to do the same thing? > > \x/ill :-} > > William Uther "When I die I want to go quietly, > will@cs.cmu.edu in my sleep like my Grandfather, > Dept. of Computer Science, not screaming like the passengers in his car" > Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~will/ > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 13 17:24:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA10567 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 17:24:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA10557 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 17:24:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA19198; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 17:25:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA19196 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 17:25:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from apollo.vicon.net (apollo.vicon.net [206.64.130.20]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA19192 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 17:25:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from pobox.com ([208.223.87.99]) by apollo.vicon.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09394 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 17:29:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34E4C64E.381B60E5@pobox.com> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 17:16:46 -0500 From: Jason Belich Organization: The Lionhearted X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins Subject: [netatalk-admins] Logging in in a computer lab... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I love Netatalk's ability for a person to login to their own volume corresponding to their userID and password. Is there a way to set things up so a user can sit at any mac in a computer lab, login ala At Ease, and get their own server volume, use it, and log out leaving said mac ready for next user. I've tried Maclogin and At Ease for Workgroups 3.0. and neither is capable of doing this, despite every relevant setting I can find. Such a utility or At Ease patch would be infinitely useful for all of us interested in using netatalk for a netserver in a school environment. some BG: Redhat 5.0 Netatalk 1.4b2 lorax RPM Mac Lab in a school setting TIA Jason Belich From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 13 18:49:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA16109 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:49:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA16102 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:49:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA14559 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 17:56:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA18288; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 17:56:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA18285 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 17:56:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from homer.bethel.edu (homer.acs.bethel.edu [140.88.128.6]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA18281 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 17:56:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (turing.acs.bethel.edu [140.88.5.23]) by homer.bethel.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id QAA27151; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 16:56:53 -0600 (CST) Received: by turing (NX5.67e) id AA01280; Fri, 13 Feb 98 16:56:53 -0600 Message-Id: <9802132256.AA01280@turing> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: "Brad G. Parks" Date: Fri, 13 Feb 98 16:56:52 -0600 To: Jason Belich Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Logging in in a computer lab... Cc: netatalk-admins References: <34E4C64E.381B60E5@pobox.com> Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu We've just started a similar setup. (Currently enabled in only one lab). In the Startup Items folder we have an alias to a program on the Netatalk server (a tiny app that pops up a modal dialog reminding the user to quit AtEase when they're done) This forces AtEase (3.0) to connect to that network volume when the user logs in. Currently nobody stores anything on the network; the network volume is used only for printer authentication. So it's not exactly what you're looking for -- users aren't accessing thier own directory (that's a summer project). But I think the principle might work for you. Also, I've seen an option in a couple of AtEase 4.0 systems for connecting to network volumes. Too bad the AtEase licenses aren't the same price as the Netatalk licenses. :) -brad parks bparks at bethel dot edu # dd if=/dev/brain of=/dev/tape Thus saith Jason Belich: > I love Netatalk's ability for a person to login to their own > volume corresponding to their userID and password. Is there a > way to set things up so a user can sit at any mac in a > computer lab, login ala At Ease, and get their own server > volume, use it, and log out leaving said mac ready for next > user. I've tried Maclogin and At Ease for Workgroups 3.0. and > neither is capable of doing this, despite every relevant > setting I can find. Such a utility or At Ease patch would be > infinitely useful for all of us interested in using netatalk > for a netserver in a school environment. > -brad From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 13 18:54:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA16417 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA16387 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:54:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA05322; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:54:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA05319 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:54:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from johngalt.wwwebservers.com (johngalt.wwwebservers.com [208.21.240.14]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA05307 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:54:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from slacker.wwwebservers.com (jon@slacker.wwwebservers.com [208.21.243.83]) by johngalt.wwwebservers.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA02130; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 17:54:19 -0600 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 17:54:01 -0600 (CST) From: Jon Torrez To: William Uther cc: netatalk-admins Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] MacIP routing? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I ment to say Linux kernels. On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, William Uther wrote: Hi, I'm guessing not, but is there any way to get netatalk to perform MacIP routing? MacIP is Apple's way of wrapping IP inside appletalk packets. Normally you use something like a gaterbox router to strip the appletalk packets off and send out the raw IP. When an IP packet comes back to the router it is wrapped in an appletalk packet and forwarded back to the Mac. Is there any way to get netatalk to do the same thing? \x/ill :-} William Uther "When I die I want to go quietly, will@cs.cmu.edu in my sleep like my Grandfather, Dept. of Computer Science, not screaming like the passengers in his car" Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~will/ +-------- | Jon Torrez | Systems Administrator - WWWebServers, Inc. | http://www.wwwebservers.com / jon@wwwebservers.com +---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 13 18:55:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA16497 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:55:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA16449 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:54:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA03136; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:54:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA03134 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:54:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from johngalt.wwwebservers.com (johngalt.wwwebservers.com [208.21.240.14]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA03126 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 18:54:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from slacker.wwwebservers.com (jon@slacker.wwwebservers.com [208.21.243.83]) by johngalt.wwwebservers.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA02126; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 17:54:02 -0600 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 17:53:44 -0600 (CST) From: Jon Torrez To: William Uther cc: netatalk-admins Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] MacIP routing? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Some of the more recent development kernels do this automaticly. Nifty eh? On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, William Uther wrote: Hi, I'm guessing not, but is there any way to get netatalk to perform MacIP routing? MacIP is Apple's way of wrapping IP inside appletalk packets. Normally you use something like a gaterbox router to strip the appletalk packets off and send out the raw IP. When an IP packet comes back to the router it is wrapped in an appletalk packet and forwarded back to the Mac. Is there any way to get netatalk to do the same thing? \x/ill :-} William Uther "When I die I want to go quietly, will@cs.cmu.edu in my sleep like my Grandfather, Dept. of Computer Science, not screaming like the passengers in his car" Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~will/ +-------- | Jon Torrez | Systems Administrator - WWWebServers, Inc. | http://www.wwwebservers.com / jon@wwwebservers.com +---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 13 21:32:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA20081 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 21:32:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA20072 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 21:32:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA01138; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 21:32:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA01136 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 21:32:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from apollo.vicon.net (apollo.vicon.net [206.64.130.20]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA01132 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 21:32:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from pobox.com ([208.223.87.99]) by apollo.vicon.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA23344; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 21:37:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34E5006C.E437E88@pobox.com> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 21:24:44 -0500 From: Jason Belich Organization: The Lionhearted X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Brad G. Parks" CC: netatalk-admins Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Logging in in a computer lab... References: <34E4C64E.381B60E5@pobox.com> <9802132256.AA01280@turing> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Brad G. Parks wrote: > > We've just started a similar setup. (Currently enabled in > only one lab). In the Startup Items folder we have an alias > to a program on the Netatalk server (a tiny app that pops up a > modal dialog reminding the user to quit AtEase when they're > done) This forces AtEase (3.0) to connect to that network > volume when the user logs in. At Ease for Workgroups 3.0 ( I know nothing about versions 4 and 5) can do that part automatically, in fact it can store users documents on a server in the directory :machinename:volumename:Documents:username by (secretly, no user knowledge)logging in to the server using the administrator's name (an option in AEfWG3.0). Now it should be reasonably possible to set the linux home directory of the "administrator" two directories above the linux home directory of the user ("volumename") so that "username" coincides with linux home directory of the user. If I'm right, this should have the following effects: 1. a user can still login to netatalk via normal chooser from a personal machine, like a laptop, and gain access to his/her linux home directory as if it were it's own volume. 2. those who will also be logging in via Win95/Samba (don't we all have mixed networks these days?) will also access their linux home directory normally. 3. ftp users and web surfers will also have normal access to these same directories. In a nutshell, users will still each have a central repository for all their files, of all types and platforms. Thanks, Brad, for triggering this idea. It could develop into a HOW-TO! There could be problems with file permissions and such. Does anyone have any suggestions, insights? TIA Jason Belich From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 15 00:00:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id AAA29076 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 00:00:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA29045 for ; Sat, 14 Feb 1998 23:59:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id AAA21852; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 00:01:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id AAA21850 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 00:01:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from davinci.anu.edu.au (davinci.anu.edu.au [150.203.45.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA21845 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 00:01:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from faceng.anu.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by davinci.anu.edu.au (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA14371; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 15:59:21 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <34E67627.49F4043F@faceng.anu.edu.au> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 15:59:20 +1100 From: Robert Edwards Organization: Department of Engineering, ANU, Australia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4c) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: William Uther , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] MacIP routing? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu William (and others), It really depends upon which host system you want to do it on. For FreeBSD there is macipgw which runs as a user-space daemon - see http://www.promo.de.pub/people/stefan/netatalk. For Linux, there is now kernel-space support in the most recent development kernels called ipddp.c, which can decapsulate _as well as_ encapsulate (not that you would want to do both on the same system). I am still getting kernel 2.1.85 working, so I'll let you know how it goes. I don't know of support for KIP/MacIP/ipddp on any other Unix. Good luck, Bob Edwards, Computer and Robotics Engineer, e-mail: bob@faceng.anu.edu.au Department of Engineering, phone: (+61) 2 6249 4090 Australian National University, fax: (+61) 2 6249 0506 Canberra, AUSTRALIA, 0200 mobile: (+61) 0416 166 761 WWW: http://spigot.anu.edu.au/people/bob/home.html From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 15 15:12:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA23890 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 15:12:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA23881 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 15:12:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA05438; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 15:12:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA05434 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 15:12:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhub2.cc.columbia.edu (mailhub2.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.16]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA05429 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 15:12:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from [128.59.135.108] (amlai.wien.rhno.columbia.edu [128.59.135.108]) by mailhub2.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06720 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 15:12:14 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: aml61@amlai2.wien.rhno.columbia.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 15:12:12 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Albert Lai Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk 1.4b2+asun18.2 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've been seeing a lot on this list about netatalk 1.4b2+asun18.2. What is this, what does it fix, and where do I get it? I'm running netatalk on RedHat 5.0 and am having problems getting afpd working. Printing works fine though. Thanks. -Albert Lai \\\|||/// | | ( @ @ ) ********************************************oooO****(_)****Oooo********* * Albert Lai SEAS Columbia University * * Wien Residential Computer Consultant * * e-mail: amlai@columbia.edu http://www.columbia.edu~aml61 * * aml61@columbia.edu http://amlai.wien.rhno.columbia.edu * * AOL: LaiAlbert@aol.com 5637 SW 38th St. * * 601/2 Wien Hall Topeka, KS 66610-1259 * * 411 West 116th St. Ph: (913)273-6780 * * New York, NY 10027-7201 .oooO * * Ph: (212)853-7575 ( ) Oooo. * *************************************************\ ( ( )************* \_) ) / (_/ From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 15 17:23:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA26371 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 17:23:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA26367 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 17:23:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA04565; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 17:23:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA04511 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 17:23:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from newsgate.dircon.co.uk (uugate1.dircon.co.uk [194.112.50.20]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA04430 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 17:22:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from nan.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by newsgate.dircon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.7) with UUCP id WAA03368 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 22:21:22 GMT Received: by mailhost.nan.co.uk (sendmail 8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA01318; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 21:38:10 GMT X-Sender: sw@mailhost.nan.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 3.1 Organization: Network Analysis Ltd Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 21:37:18 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Sak Wathanasin Subject: [netatalk-admins] No response from server problem Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've been running netatalk 1.4b2+asun18 here for a while. All of a sudden, when I try to log in to the netatalk server from my 9500 in the Chooser, I get a "No response from server. Please try again." The weird thing is 1) connecting via ASIP still works (ie clicking on the "server IP address" and entering the server's hostname works) 2) connecting to other AFP servers via AppleTalk still works 3) connecting to the netatalk server from other Macs via AFP works In other words, I can connect to the netatalk server via IP but not AppleTalk. I also can't auto-mount the netatlk server volumes on boot, although (previously created) aliases to the netatalk volumes do work (via AppleTalk!). I'm running 8.1, AShare client 3.7.4. I've tried 3.7.1 from 8.0 and I still get the same problem. If I have time, I'll boot a backup copy of OS 8.0. I'm sure this used to all work since I installed 8.1, but I couldn't swear to it. (1) seems to suggest that the AFP side of netatalk isn't working, but then (3) flatly contradicts this. (2) + the fact that old aliases work say that the AFP client on my 9500 is OK. I'm confused... Anyone else seen this? Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK Internet: sw@nan.co.uk Phone: (+44) 1203 419996 Fax: (+44) 1203 690690 From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 15 22:06:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA04369 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 22:06:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA04365 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 22:06:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA19420; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 22:06:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA19418 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 22:06:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from zifi.genetics.utah.edu (zifi.genetics.utah.edu [155.100.229.31]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA19414 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 22:06:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from zinc@localhost) by zifi.genetics.utah.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7/pjf) id UAA11852; Sun, 15 Feb 1998 20:06:39 -0700 Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 20:06:39 -0700 Message-Id: <199802160306.UAA11852@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> From: patrick finerty To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] REPOST: purpose of PAM, crypt, and DES X-URL: http://zifi.genetics.utah.edu/~zinc X-Face: &dh1aHu*v\s24A9~2qU[ln~;(Cz#X]d2r-@X>#j9U@vx!v8%IYU''n-H1D)}U(-0Te~ LD|Cyg6Gh-aFN{B*VSKhs}en{nXo3xkveE#BxR9 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id AAA06750 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 00:08:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA06742 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 00:08:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id AAA09357; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 00:08:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id AAA09355 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 00:08:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from adam.ist.flinders.edu.au (adam.ist.flinders.edu.au [129.96.1.21]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA09351 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 00:08:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from kat.ist.flinders.edu.au (root@kat.ist.flinders.edu.au [129.96.1.9]) by adam.ist.flinders.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18123 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:37:24 +1030 (CST) Received: from kat (dbeck@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kat.ist.flinders.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03543 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:37:20 +1030 (CST) Message-Id: <199802160507.PAA03543@kat.ist.flinders.edu.au> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Building netatalk on OSF In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 15 Feb 1998 20:06:39 PDT." <199802160306.UAA11852@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:37:18 +1030 From: David Beck Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi there, I have the dubious honor of needing to install netatalk on a Digital Alpha 433 au box. Does anybody have any hints or suggestions? Thanks. David. -- ("`-/")_.-'"``-._ (\__/) David Beck +61-8-201 3923 O O `; -._ )-;-,_`) (..) _) dbeck@ist.flinders.edu.au =(_~_)= _ )`-.\ ``-' /\/\ ( Systems Administrator _.-~_..-_/ / ((.' (m__m)_) IST Computing Services ((,.-' ((,/ The Flinders University of South Australia From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 16 03:23:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id DAA09039 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 03:23:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA09033 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 03:23:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA07469; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 03:23:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA07465 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 03:23:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from toolshed.artschool.utas.edu.au (toolshed.artschool.utas.edu.au [131.217.85.5]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA07449 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 03:23:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from toolshed.artschool.utas.edu.au (ppp-client.artschool.utas.edu.au [131.217.85.21]) by toolshed.artschool.utas.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA27196 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:21:30 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from hart@toolshed.artschool.utas.edu.au) Message-ID: <34E88782.C18CB88F@toolshed.artschool.utas.edu.au> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:37:56 +0100 From: Bill Hart Reply-To: hart@toolshed.artschool.utas.edu.au Organization: Tasmanian School of Art X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems sending binary data to parrallel port postscript printer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi I'm desperate, this must be a common problem, but I can't find a reference to it anywhere. Anyway the situation is Macs running Laserwriter 8.5.1 printing images from photoshop via netatalk to a Linux (Red Hat 4.2) or FreeBSD (2.2.5) box with a Tektronix Phaser IIIPXi printer connected via a parrallel port. Spooling works fine (the whole idea of doing it was to get the printer off localtalk). Printing files with only ascii in them works fine, printing images (which are binary encoded) causes the printer to choke.. printing images to a file and encoding as ascii then "cat"ing to the printer port also works fine. Reading the documentation it seems as though there should be no problem with parallel ports... Anybody have any ideas ?? (a hundred students arrive next week, and I've no money for a new printer or an ethernet interface) thanks -Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 16 03:35:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id DAA09526 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 03:35:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA09520 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 03:35:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id DAA17963; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 03:37:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id DAA17961 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 03:37:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from newsgate.dircon.co.uk (uugate1.dircon.co.uk [194.112.50.20]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA17957 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 03:37:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from nan.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by newsgate.dircon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.7) with UUCP id IAA27234 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 08:35:40 GMT Received: by mailhost.nan.co.uk (sendmail 8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA03550; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 08:16:01 GMT X-Sender: sw@mailhost.nan.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 3.1 Organization: Network Analysis Ltd Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 08:15:18 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Sak Wathanasin Subject: Re:[netatalk-admins] No response from server problem Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In reply to Sak Wathanasin's message of the 2/15/98 at 9:37 PM +0000, > 1) connecting via ASIP still works (ie clicking on the "server IP address" and > entering the server's hostname works) > 2) connecting to other AFP servers via AppleTalk still works > 3) connecting to the netatalk server from other Macs via AFP works > > In other words, I can connect to the netatalk server via IP but not AppleTalk. > I also can't auto-mount the netatlk server volumes on boot, although > (previously created) aliases to the netatalk volumes do work (via AppleTalk!). Ah, I was labouring under the delusion that I only got ASIP if I clicked on "server IP address". However, on reading the AShare client notes, I see that it will automatically use ASIP connections if the server supports it, and you have to option-click to use AppleTalk. So I did that and indeed the netatalk server responds via AppleTalk. It's beginning to make sense... The question now is why double-clicking the server-name in the Chooser fails with a "Server not responding error", but clicking on the "server IP address" and typing in the name (NB not the IP number) works. There are no routers om this network, and I can't see any errors in the various logs on the Linux box. Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK Internet: sw@nan.co.uk Phone: (+44) 1203 419996 Fax: (+44) 1203 690690 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 16 04:33:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA10467 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 04:33:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA10463 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 04:33:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id EAA22975; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 04:34:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id EAA22973 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 04:34:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [198.7.0.33]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA22969 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 04:34:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from elf (dfoster.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.216]) by mail2.panix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/PanixM1.3) with SMTP id EAA08532 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 04:33:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199802160933.EAA08532@mail2.panix.com> X-Sender: dfoster@popserver.panix.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Demo Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 04:36:11 -0500 To: Bill Hart From: David Foster Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems sending binary data to parrallel port postscript printer In-Reply-To: <34E88782.C18CB88F@toolshed.artschool.utas.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 07:37 PM 2/16/98 +0100, you wrote: >Hi I'm desperate, > this must be a common problem, but I can't find a reference to it anywhere. >Anyway the situation is >Macs running Laserwriter 8.5.1 printing images from photoshop via netatalk to >a Linux (Red Hat 4.2) or FreeBSD (2.2.5) box with a Tektronix Phaser IIIPXi >printer connected via a parrallel port. Spooling works fine (the whole idea >of doing it was to get the printer off localtalk). Printing files with only >ascii in them works fine, printing images (which are binary encoded) causes >the printer to choke.. > this is indeed an old problem, but I've never seen an adequate solution. There's two different ways to encode binary postscript, Macs use one way, and almost everyone else uses the other. Many printers thus assume that if the jobs coming over an appletalk port, then it must be encoded in the Mac way, and if it's coming over a parallel port, then it's encoded in the PC way. It's all pretty dependent on what you're printing, some can run for years without ever hitting a problem, others hit the problem right away. Some printers let you configure this, but most don't. As you've seen, ascii postscript files work fine, if you can get folks to stick to them. Someplace there must be a "standard protocol to tagged binary" filter. >printing images to a file and encoding as ascii then "cat"ing to the printer >port also works fine. Reading the documentation it seems as though there >should be no problem with parallel ports... However you're encoding them as ascii, why don't you set that up as a filter on the printer port? This isn't a problem with the port itself, it's just in the nature of postscript printers. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 16 06:57:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA28206 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 06:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA28202 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 06:57:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id GAA03159; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 06:58:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id GAA03157 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 06:58:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from sparta.scl.co.uk (sparta.scl.co.uk [163.164.160.4]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA03153 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 06:58:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from janus.scl.co.uk (janus.scl.co.uk [163.164.164.50]) by sparta.scl.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA21269 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:56:57 GMT Message-Id: <2.2.16.19980216120119.304f4e56@mail.scl.co.uk> X-Sender: john@mail.scl.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 12:01:19 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: John Sutton Subject: [netatalk-admins] File creation problems Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi I'm running 1.4b2+asun17. Two problems, both I think related to file creation: 1) When I create a new file from ClarisWorks v5 on the netatalk volume (i.e., do a Save directly onto the volume), it appears to work but in fact has created a zero length file. More alarming still, when you look in the Finder, the file appears to have a length which is neither zero nor the true length which the file should be! If I then save the file onto the local volume and copy it over onto the netatalk volume (thus overwriting the zero-length file), subsequent Opens and Saves from ClarisWorks are fine. I remember mention of similar problems with ClarisWorks on this list (or LINUX-ATALK, I don't remember) some time back, but I think these problems were related to large disks? In my case, the netatalk volume is on a real tiddler (106Mb disk) so I don't think this is the same problem. 2) I run Eudora on the Mac with the In and Out mailboxes on the netatalk drive. This works fine until the mailboxes are "large" (maybe half a meg) and I attempt to Compact them (i.e. rewrite the mailbox with the deleted messages removed). This operation has indeterminate results! The common feature of such attempts is that Eudora considers that the "wasted space" in the mailbox (i.e. that occupied by deleted messages and which should be zero after a Compact) is now _negative_! Subsequent attempts to open a message in the compacted mailbox usually sends Eudora into spasm... Any ideas? TIA John *************************************************** John Sutton SCL Computer Services URL http://www.scl.co.uk/ Tel. +44 (0) 1239 621021 *************************************************** From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 16 07:12:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA29031 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 07:12:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA29026 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 07:12:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA22590; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 07:12:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA22588 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 07:12:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at (germ2.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA22572 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 07:12:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from buster.retti.at (internet@pc1-c608.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.17]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.7/8.8.6 (l 3)) with ESMTP id NAA24300; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:12:18 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (m610.retti.at [192.168.0.13]) by buster.retti.at (8.8.3/8.8.3 (GR v 1.1)) with ESMTP id LAA26576; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:05:07 +0100 Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:05:07 +0100 X-Sender: gregor@mail.retti.at Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <34E88782.C18CB88F@toolshed.artschool.utas.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: hart@toolshed.artschool.utas.edu.au, netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Gregor Retti Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems sending binary data to parrallel port postscript printer Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 19:37 Uhr +0100 16.02.1998, Bill Hart wrote: >Hi I'm desperate, > this must be a common problem, but I can't find a reference to it >anywhere. >Anyway the situation is >Macs running Laserwriter 8.5.1 printing images from photoshop via netatalk to >a Linux (Red Hat 4.2) or FreeBSD (2.2.5) box with a Tektronix Phaser IIIPXi >printer connected via a parrallel port. Spooling works fine (the whole idea >of doing it was to get the printer off localtalk). Printing files with only >ascii in them works fine, printing images (which are binary encoded) causes >the printer to choke.. > >printing images to a file and encoding as ascii then "cat"ing to the printer >port also works fine. Reading the documentation it seems as though there >should be no problem with parallel ports... > >Anybody have any ideas ?? (a hundred students arrive next week, and I've no >money for a new printer or an ethernet interface) > maybe there is an option in the ppd-file for your tektronix phaser concerning the binary data transfer, which can be changed to ascii. good luck gregor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ----------- http://germanistik.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 16 11:05:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA04951 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:05:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA04940 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:05:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA20977 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 04:46:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA12910; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 04:46:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA12908 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 04:46:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from lundaforum.se (lundaforum-gw.ideon.se [193.45.79.26]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA12904 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 04:46:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from pt.lundaforum.se (pt.lundaforum.se [194.17.249.5]) by lundaforum.se (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id LAA07677; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:33:22 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980216105206.03612280@lundaforum.se> X-Sender: pb@lundaforum.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:52:06 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Peter Bolmehag Subject: [netatalk-admins] filetypes apple/pc excel Cc: vivek@imaginet.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! I´ve have the right cerator/tyåe codes now for pc saved excel files to be read by macs via netatalk. Now another problem occurs. When I click on the excel document saved by a pc I get "File can´t be read" error on the mac. Seems like it recognizes that it is an excel file but something else also happends. Is there more to it? Peter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Bolmehag LundaForum AB Tel: 046-182513 Mobil: 0708-373409 Epost: Peter.Bolmehag@lundaforum.se Min PGP nyckel: http://www.lundaforum.se/pgp From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 16 11:05:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA04961 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:05:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA04946 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:05:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA04462 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:50:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA20610; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:50:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA20421 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:50:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from lundaforum.se (lundaforum-gw.ideon.se [193.45.79.26]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA20370 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 10:50:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from pt.lundaforum.se (pt.lundaforum.se [194.17.249.5]) by lundaforum.se (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id RAA10290 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:37:01 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980216165554.03621e28@lundaforum.se> X-Sender: pb@lundaforum.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 16:55:54 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Peter Bolmehag Subject: [netatalk-admins] help: exchanging excel with samba and netatalk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! I have a lot of trouble to get this to work. I use pc:s with samba and mac with netatalk on my network. I have all the right file type and creator codes in my AppleVolumes.system. I can save and open excel4 documents with no problems. that is creating and saving on a pc and opening and editing on a mac. But when i use excel5 i run into problems. I get strnge notes about filess being write protected even though I can see that they are open for write and read to all by unix permissions. An excel5 document saved on a pc will give "file write protected" when opened on a mac via netatalk. I have set my samba system to use mode 666 when creating any files. So it is rw for everyone always. strange... Peter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Bolmehag LundaForum AB Tel: 046-182513 Mobil: 0708-373409 Epost: Peter.Bolmehag@lundaforum.se Min PGP nyckel: http://www.lundaforum.se/pgp From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 16 11:33:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA06701 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:33:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA06689 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:33:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA07760; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:33:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA07726 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:32:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.imaginet.co.uk (tanya.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.16]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id LAA07655 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 11:32:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 16:30:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Vivek To: Peter Bolmehag cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] help: exchanging excel with samba and netatalk In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980216165554.03621e28@lundaforum.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, Peter Bolmehag wrote: > a mac. But when i use excel5 i run into problems. I get strnge notes about > filess being write protected even though I can see that they are open for > write and read to all by unix permissions. > > An excel5 document saved on a pc will give "file write protected" when > opened on a mac via netatalk. I have set my samba system to use mode 666 > when creating any files. So it is rw for everyone always. > > strange... You're not running into some Samba/Windows locking thing here are you? How long does this behaviour persist for after the file is saved out from the PC? Maybe this is one for the samba list... -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 16 13:32:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA09724 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:32:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA09720 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:32:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA22405; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:32:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA22314 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:31:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhub1.cc.columbia.edu (mailhub1.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.137]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA22210 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:31:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from [128.59.135.108] (amlai.wien.rhno.columbia.edu [128.59.135.108]) by mailhub1.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14785 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:31:33 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: aml61@amlai2.wien.rhno.columbia.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:31:33 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Albert Lai Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk 1.4b2+asun18.2 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm resending this message. I got an unknown mailer error 126. Sorry if this actually comes through twice. I've been seeing a lot on this list about netatalk 1.4b2+asun18.2. What is this, what does it fix, and where do I get it? I'm running netatalk on RedHat 5.0 and am having problems getting afpd working. Printing works fine though. Thanks. -Albert Lai \\\|||/// | | ( @ @ ) ********************************************oooO****(_)****Oooo********* * Albert Lai SEAS Columbia University * * Wien Residential Computer Consultant * * e-mail: amlai@columbia.edu http://www.columbia.edu~aml61 * * aml61@columbia.edu http://amlai.wien.rhno.columbia.edu * * AOL: LaiAlbert@aol.com 5637 SW 38th St. * * 601/2 Wien Hall Topeka, KS 66610-1259 * * 411 West 116th St. Ph: (913)273-6780 * * New York, NY 10027-7201 .oooO * * Ph: (212)853-7575 ( ) Oooo. * *************************************************\ ( ( )************* \_) ) / (_/ From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 16 15:32:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA13735 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:32:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA13731 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:32:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA25258; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:32:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA25254 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:32:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id PAA25237 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:32:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09950; Mon, 16 Feb 98 20:32:09 GMT Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:31:03 GMT From: John Barry -Technician Received: from tom (tom.tees) by scorch; Mon, 16 Feb 98 20:26:57 GMT Date: Mon, 16 Feb 98 20:27:05 GMT Message-Id: <11361.9802162027@tom> To: c60831@germ2.uibk.ac.at Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems sending binary data to parrallel port postscript printer Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > At 19:37 Uhr +0100 16.02.1998, Bill Hart wrote: > >Hi I'm desperate, > > this must be a common problem, but I can't find a reference to it > >anywhere. > >Anyway the situation is > >Macs running Laserwriter 8.5.1 printing images from photoshop via netatalk to > >a Linux (Red Hat 4.2) or FreeBSD (2.2.5) box with a Tektronix Phaser IIIPXi > >printer connected via a parrallel port. Spooling works fine (the whole idea > >of doing it was to get the printer off localtalk). Printing files with only > >ascii in them works fine, printing images (which are binary encoded) causes > >the printer to choke.. We have the same problems here. The problem seems to be with colour, if the image is a colour document, then the printer processes the job for a good 20 minutes then spits out a header sheet and nothing else. However, if the image is saved as black and white first, we don't seem to have a problem. I'm spooling from a SPARC IPX (SunOS 4.1.4 & NeWSprint2.2) to HP LaserJet 6 via a spiderport conected via the serial port. (the ppd files I'm using are for a LaserJet 5, the newest I could find on the Adobe site.) later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 16 15:53:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA14906 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:53:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA14889 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:52:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA02840; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:52:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA02835 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:52:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown-31-139.pilot.net (unknown-31-139.pilot.net [204.48.31.139]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA02829 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:52:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from [206.189.96.158] (unverified [206.189.96.158]) by smtp.emailserv.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 14:54:59 -0600 X-Sender: petro@smtp.emailserv.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.19980208225344.00981ec0@wallace.khm.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:00:19 -0600 To: Jesse Swensen , Oliver Wrede , netatalk-admins@umich.edu, LINUX-ATALK@NETSPACE.ORG From: "Christopher C. Petro" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Substitute Linux by MacOS??? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sorry about being a little late on this one, I normally don't read much of the list, and was just wandering thru when I noticed this sickness. At 4:48 PM -0600 2/8/98, Jesse Swensen wrote: >At 10:53 PM +0100 2/8/98, Oliver Wrede wrote: >>Hi everybody. >> >>We want to substitute a Linux box by an MacOS-Server! These here are >>our main services and our plans to substitute Mac software. I don't >>have any experiences with this services on Mac and I wnat to know if >>anybody can comment on it (bad/good, do's/dont's, etc) >> >>LINUX: --> APPLE: >> >>WWW (Apache) WWW (Apache / WebTen) >>Mail (Sendmail) Stalker Internet Mail Server >>FTP FTP (NetPresence/WebTen) >>Majordomo MacJordomo >>PHP (???) Some of this functionality would be in lasso/Tango. A very little. >>MySQL FileMaker Pro + Lasso/Tango NO. DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT. FILEMAKER PRO BLOWS BIG CHUNKS OF PARTICIALLY DIGESTED VEGETABLE MATTER. Sorry, I LOVE the mac platform. I love linux. Unix on the servers, Macs on the desk top. Filemaker Pro server is a Horrid Horrid thing. Filemaker pro is a nasty nasty peice of work in a networked enviroment. Trust me, I am loosing my hair over clarises BRAIN DAMAGED implementation of many things (Passwords are assigned on a per-table basis, and to change permissions, add a user, or do anything with passwords, you MUST take the table (aka file) down to a single user state...I.e. take it off line. Adding/Modifying fields the same thing.) No, filemaker is NOT the way to go. If you absolutely MUST use a mac for your intranet, then take a serious look at the Butler Database stuff. Also, the MacOS just flat out can't handle the kinds of loads that a similar unix boxen (esp. a Linux box) can. Just won't happen. Of course you can wait about 3-6 months and just use Rhapsody. It's real real nice. Remember, you have been warned. >>Telnet (???) Why? MacOS is not even multitasking, much less multiuser. >>PPP (analog + digital) VICOM Internet Gateway >>FTP-Spiegelung FTP-Client + AppleScript >>WWW based Newsgroup (???) >>Netatalk (TCP/IP) not needed Actuallly, you WILL need an Appleshare server. Also, all of the Mac products you mentioned are commercial products. For the prices you would pay for all of that, you could buy a couple machines to run linux on. You will probably also (depending on loads) want to get an extra Mac because your From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 16 16:10:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA16958 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 16:10:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA16953 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 16:10:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA23595; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 16:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA23588 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 16:10:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA23574 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 16:10:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA06686; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:05:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from UNKNOWN(), claiming to be "current1.whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd006684; Mon Feb 16 13:05:28 1998 Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 13:01:35 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: David Beck cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Building netatalk on OSF In-Reply-To: <199802160507.PAA03543@kat.ist.flinders.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu if it's running 'digital unix' then the networking code is based on BSD4.4(early) code and you might find that the FreeBSD stuff may give some hints. (or NetBSD) julian On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, David Beck wrote: > > Hi there, > I have the dubious honor of needing to install netatalk on > a Digital Alpha 433 au box. Does anybody have any hints or > suggestions? > > Thanks. > > David. > -- > ("`-/")_.-'"``-._ > (\__/) David Beck +61-8-201 3923 O O `; -._ )-;-,_`) > (..) _) dbeck@ist.flinders.edu.au =(_~_)= _ )`-.\ ``-' > /\/\ ( Systems Administrator _.-~_..-_/ / ((.' > (m__m)_) IST Computing Services ((,.-' ((,/ > The Flinders University of South Australia > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 16 17:15:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA21393 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:15:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA21385 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:15:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA20560; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:15:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA20558 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:15:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from zifi.genetics.utah.edu (zifi.genetics.utah.edu [155.100.229.31]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA20517 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 17:15:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from zinc@localhost) by zifi.genetics.utah.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7/pjf) id PAA15876; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:15:27 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 15:15:27 -0700 Message-Id: <199802162215.PAA15876@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> From: patrick finerty To: bandit@freeside.elte.hu Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] REPOST: purpose of PAM, crypt, and DES In-Reply-To: <34E824D6.D0CB9FC6@lettera.hu> References: <199802160306.UAA11852@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> <34E824D6.D0CB9FC6@lettera.hu> X-Mailer: VM 6.40 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Organization: planet of the monkey boys X-URL: http://zifi.genetics.utah.edu/~zinc X-Face: &dh1aHu*v\s24A9~2qU[ln~;(Cz#X]d2r-@X>#j9U@vx!v8%IYU''n-H1D)}U(-0Te~ LD|Cyg6Gh-aFN{B*VSKhs}en{nXo3xkveE#BxR9 - I suppose, You get authenticated when logging on to the afpd volume. > If You use cleartext (on the network) passwords, then afpd can either > call crypt and compare the results with /etc/passwd (or the shadow > version of the same), or use the cleartext (on disk) password stored in > the user's home directory (I'm afraid I can't remember the magic > filename discussed before - it should be in the source or in the list > archives). In the case You use 2way randnum (on the network) passwords, > then both the password (on the network) and the password (on the disk) > are encrypted, so netatalk has no way to easily compare them (without > searching the keyspace of either one), and so has to rely on the above > mentioned magic file containing the cleartext password - it can encrypt > it then (not with crypt in this case, but with whatever algorithm is > used in the Mac 2way randnum authentication), see, if it matches. One > other encryption mechanism used instead of 2way randum (whatever that > is) might be DES, I suppose; the situation should be the same in this > case then. -- "There is only one aim in life and that is to live it." Karl Shapiro,(1959) from an essay on Henry Miller's Tropic of Cancer finger zinc-pgp@zifi.genetics.utah.edu for PGP key http://zifi.genetics.utah.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 16 19:22:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA25779 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:22:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA25775 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:22:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA26202; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:24:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA26199 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:24:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA26192 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:24:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA124590; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 16:24:41 -0800 Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 16:24:40 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: patrick finerty cc: bandit@freeside.elte.hu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] REPOST: purpose of PAM, crypt, and DES In-Reply-To: <199802162215.PAA15876@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 16 Feb 1998, patrick finerty wrote: > Hi, > > so, i guess my question really relates to the (Clear-Text) message I > see in the Mac Chooser when connecting to my Linux machine. Using DES > doesn't change this message. I guess I'm wondering if the 2way randnum > is implemented for netatalk or not and if using DES or PAM is supposed > to add support for it. The thing about 2way is that it requires having a plain-text password on the server. Normal UN*X systems don't keep such a thing. Someone's implimented it, and it uses a text file in the user's home dir, so you have a UNIX and a Netatalk password. :-) Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 16 19:47:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA26652 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:47:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA26644 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:47:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA26590 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:46:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA03614; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:48:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA03608 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:48:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from postoffice.mail.cornell.edu (POSTOFFICE.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.56.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA03592 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:48:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from loon.cit.cornell.edu (CU-DIALUP-3009.CIT.CORNELL.EDU [128.253.44.119]) by postoffice.mail.cornell.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA23212; Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:46:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980216194547.0083e530@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu> X-Sender: mqh1@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) -- [Cornell Modified] Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 19:45:47 -0500 To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk, c60831@germ2.uibk.ac.at From: Michael Hojnowski Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: Problems sending binary data to parrallel port postscript printer Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <11361.9802162027@tom> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >> >Anyway the situation is >> >Macs running Laserwriter 8.5.1 printing images from photoshop via netatalk to >> >a Linux (Red Hat 4.2) or FreeBSD (2.2.5) box with a Tektronix Phaser IIIPXi >> >printer connected via a parrallel port. Spooling works fine (the whole idea >> >of doing it was to get the printer off localtalk). Printing files with only >> >ascii in them works fine, printing images (which are binary encoded) causes >> >the printer to choke.. I had a similar problem using CAP/LWSRV to collect postscript, then spooling it to HP or Lexmark printers via IP. The problem was this - the Mac generates "Binary Postscript", however the HP and Lexmark (and probably Tektronix) printers don't expect Binary Postscript unless it comes in via Appletalk. If you send in Binary Postscript via IP or the serial lines, the postscript ripper isn't prepared for it, and it chokes. The workaround for me was to insert a filter which translated the postscript into "Tagged Binary Postscript" before sending it to the printer. A guru at Lexmark sent me the following program. I filter the data through this filter, which escapes the 8 or so binary sequences that are choking the printer. This will probably fix it, if you can figure out how to wrench this filter into the Netatalk setup. I don't run netatalk, I just read this mail list out of curiosity. Sick, huh? The filter is below. Mike --- /* bin2tbcp.c - Convert file to Tagged Binary Communications Protocol. */ #include #include #include void main(argc,argv) int argc; char *argv[]; { FILE *infp,*outfp; long CH; char inputfile[80],outputfile[80]; if (argc == 3) { strcpy(inputfile, argv[1]); strcpy(outputfile, argv[2]); if ( (infp = fopen(inputfile,"r")) == NULL ) { printf("\nERROR : Unable to open input file: %s\n",inputfile); exit(1); } if ( (outfp = fopen(outputfile,"w")) == NULL ) { printf("\nERROR : Unable to open output file: %s\n",outputfile); exit(1); } } else if (argc == 2) { strcpy(inputfile, argv[1]); outfp = stdout; if ( (infp = fopen(inputfile,"r")) == NULL ) { printf("\nERROR : Unable to open input file: %s\n",inputfile); exit(1); } } else { infp=stdin; outfp=stdout; } fprintf(outfp,"%cM",(unsigned char)(0x01)); while ((CH = fgetc(infp)) != EOF) { switch (CH) { case (unsigned char) 0x01: /* ^A */ case (unsigned char) 0x03: /* ^C */ case (unsigned char) 0x04: /* ^D */ case (unsigned char) 0x05: /* ^E */ case (unsigned char) 0x11: /* ^Q */ case (unsigned char) 0x13: /* ^S */ case (unsigned char) 0x14: /* ^T */ case (unsigned char) 0x1c: /* ^\ */ case (unsigned char) 0x1b: /* ^[ */ fputc((unsigned char) 0x01,outfp); fputc((unsigned char)(CH ^ 0x40),outfp); break; default: fputc(CH,outfp); } } fprintf(outfp,"%c%%-12345X",(unsigned char)(0x1b)); fclose(outfp); fclose(infp); } --- Michael Hojnowski - Sr Prog/Analyst - Cornell University (607) 255-7407 Home Page: http://mqh.cit.cornell.edu/~mqh/ Fax: (607) 255-8169 PGP Public Key: Can be found on my home page From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 17 04:55:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA16848 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 04:55:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA16844 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 04:55:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA12156; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 04:55:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA12154 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 04:55:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id EAA12150 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 04:55:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14343; Tue, 17 Feb 98 09:55:01 GMT Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:49:03 GMT From: John Barry -Technician Received: from sue (sue.tees) by scorch; Tue, 17 Feb 98 09:44:57 GMT Date: Tue, 17 Feb 98 09:44:53 GMT Message-Id: <20887.9802170944@sue> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] REPOST: purpose of PAM, crypt, and DES Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, > The thing about 2way is that it requires having a plain-text password on > the server. Normal UN*X systems don't keep such a thing. Someone's > implimented it, and it uses a text file in the user's home dir, so you > have a UNIX and a Netatalk password. :-) We've got 2000 users, any one of whom may access the mac-lab. Simply assigning alternate passwords to 2000 users would be bad enough, then we have to diseminate them and change them at regular intervals as students forget them. We already do this for the Unix system, this would just add to our workload. I'd love to be able to put in decent security, but Unix sends all passwords as plaintext anyway, (us Brits, aren't allowed decent encryption :( later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 17 08:18:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA05571 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:18:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA05564 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:18:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA14364; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:18:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA14362 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:18:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id IAA14358 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:18:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from majink1.itc.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa17131; 17 Feb 98 8:18 EST Received: from majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU (majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU [128.143.12.118]) by majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA02616 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:18:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199802171318.IAA02616@majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:18:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert J. Marinchick" Reply-To: "Robert J. Marinchick" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Best netatalk version To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: tn3DNc3pAFf5vnCDJLwBuA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4c sparc Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi Folks, I'm running netatalk-1.4b2 on a Solaris 2.6 box and have things working after a fashion. I obtained netatalk at u.mich, and have also applied the patches for solaris that I found there. We are experiencing some problems with afpd, in that, SuperPaint has a problem: when you revise a file, then try to save the revision, you get a spurious error that the disk is full. We suspect that this is caused by the size of the file system on which we're trying to store this file. If I apply the patches "1.4b2-a18.diff, a18.1 & a18.2" from the u.wash site, will I have a better version, and will our problem get solved, or will we be wasting our time? Bob Marinchick rjm8m@Virginia.Edu From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 17 16:22:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA21905 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 16:22:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA21888 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 16:22:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA20398; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 16:23:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA20381 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 16:23:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from oberon.math.ukans.edu (oberon.math.ukans.edu [129.237.128.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA20342 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 16:23:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from stumpy.math.ukans.edu (stumpy [129.237.128.2]) by oberon.math.ukans.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA03124 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 15:21:53 -0600 (CST) Received: (from buller@localhost) by stumpy.math.ukans.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA11432; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 15:21:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 15:21:51 -0600 (CST) From: Tim Buller X-Sender: buller@stumpy To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Ghostscript/Netatalk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello- I am trying to setup a print queue on a Solaris 2.5.1 box running stock 1.4b2 for a LocalTalk connected HP DeskJet 870Cxi. We have several LocalTalk connected printers with queues on the Unix side, so that is not a problem. I also have ghostscript installed with drivers that will produce appropriate output for the 870Cxi What I'm unclear about is how to use pap to send the output of ghostscript to the printer. Is there a way to tell pap in an interface script not to output postscript, i.e. just take the input stream and throw it at the LocalTalk-connected printers? TIA, Tim ==== Tim Buller buller@math.ukans.edu Systems Specialist Snow Hall 643, (785) 864-7311 Department of Mathematics University of Kansas, Lawrence, KS 66045 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 17 19:15:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA27786 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 19:15:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA27782 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 19:15:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA24996; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 19:16:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA24990 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 19:16:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA24973 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 1998 19:16:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id BAA30252; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 01:15:14 +0100 Message-ID: <34EA278E.68AA7DE2@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 01:13:02 +0100 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: patrick finerty , Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] REPOST: purpose of PAM, crypt, and DES References: <199802160306.UAA11852@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> <34E824D6.D0CB9FC6@lettera.hu> <199802162215.PAA15876@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu patrick finerty wrote: > so, i guess my question really relates to the (Clear-Text) message I > see in the Mac Chooser when connecting to my Linux machine. Using DES > doesn't change this message. I guess I'm wondering if the 2way randnum > is implemented for netatalk or not and if using DES or PAM is supposed > to add support for it. Sorry, I personally can not help You with that, due to lack of knowledge. But one more thing: the asun version of afpd comes with an afpd.conf, which has, among others, options for controlling the set of login methods offered by afpd. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 18 09:07:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA04994 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:07:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA04988 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:07:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id JAA02277; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:08:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id JAA02275 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:08:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from jerseycape.com (mail.jerseycape.com [206.66.24.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id JAA02241 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:08:50 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:08:42 -0500 Received: from k-mccord.ac-coin.com [208.204.224.254] by jerseycape.com with smtp id AJAIAKAJ ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:08:10 -0500 Message-ID: <000501bd3c77$7dae6d80$fd03a8c0@k-mccord.ac-coin.com> From: "Ken McCord" To: Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: Netatalk Routing Problem... Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:14:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Replying a a message from Andras Kadinger regarding my original post....received the reply at home and didn't have the info to respond, so I'm reposting with his comments... >> Having a problem routing with Netatalk 1.4b2.. >> Network is configured as follows: >> Alpha zone (numbered 2-2) - DMZ zone (1-1) - Linux router - Beta zone (3-3) >> Linux router ('scoobiedoo') is configured to route IP, IPX and Appletalk (IP >> and IPX route with no problem). Atalkd.conf is set to: >> To DMZ zone: eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 1 -addr 1.72 -zone "DMZ" >> To Beta zone: eth1 -seed -phase 2 -net 3 -addr 3.251 -zone "BETA" >> Macs on the Beta zone can see the entire network. For example, they can see >> Macs in the Alpha zone using Timbuktu Pro. > What is Timbuktu Pro? Why is it needed here? Timbuktu Pro is a remote control/access program (like PC Anywhere) for Macs and PCs. It works over IP, IPX and Appletalk. Our Macs use it for file transfers. Our problem is that Macs in the Beta zone can see and control Macs in the Alpha zone, but not vice versa. We also have a MS Mail for Appletalk networks mail server in the Beta zone. Macs in the Alpha zone cannot connect to this machine to get their mail. Problems also happen if the Mac is moved from the Alpha zone to the DMZ zone. >>Macs on the Alpha network can see Macs on the DMZ zone, but not the Beta zone. > What kind of router is it between Alpha and DMZ? We have a pair of Farallon Netopia 440's between the DMZ and Alpha zone. Appletalk is configured for these routers, and we've had Farallon check the configuration. >> One strange thing I noticed... using ATCON on our Netware server (in the >> Beta zone), scoobiedoo advertises itself in the DMZ zone, but with the 3.251 >> address. Shouldn't this be the 1.72 address?? > Not necessarily, since it has only one address on the network, which happens to > be on the other interface. This is normal and should not cause a problem, except > maybe, appearing on a different zone than You wanted. After rereading Your > previous sentences: Yes, it looks strange to me, too. I'm going to try the older 1.3.3 version of Netatalk. Maybe that will make a difference. > Sincerely, > Andras Kadinger > bandit@freeside.elte.hu Thanks, Andras >> Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. >> Thanks, >> Ken McCord >> MIS Manager >> AC Coin and Slot Ken From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 18 10:45:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA07215 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:45:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA07209 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:45:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA09632; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:45:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA09630 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:45:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from oberon.math.ukans.edu (oberon.math.ukans.edu [129.237.128.5]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA09538 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:45:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from stumpy.math.ukans.edu (stumpy [129.237.128.2]) by oberon.math.ukans.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA08223; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:45:27 -0600 (CST) Received: (from buller@localhost) by stumpy.math.ukans.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA12217; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:45:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 09:45:26 -0600 (CST) From: Tim Buller X-Sender: buller@stumpy To: Andras Kadinger cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Ghostscript/Netatalk In-Reply-To: <34EA1A19.5A8547D0@freeside.elte.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Andras Kadinger wrote: > Tim Buller wrote: > > What I'm unclear about is how to use pap to send the output of > > ghostscript to the printer. Is there a way to tell pap in an interface > > script not to output postscript, i.e. just take the input stream and throw > > it at the LocalTalk-connected printers? > > In my experience (although only with EtherTalk PostScript printers), pap > itself never changed the input stream while sending it out. Might your > script force converting to postscript again? Try calling pap directly. You are indeed correct... if I use send the ghostscript converted .ps file to the printer using pap on the command line, it works! I'll post more comprehensive info when I get everything working... Thanks Andras... Tim ==== Tim Buller buller@math.ukans.edu Systems Specialist Snow Hall 643, (785) 864-7311 Department of Mathematics University of Kansas, Lawrence, KS 66045 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 18 15:08:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA14732 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:08:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA14725 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:08:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA10675 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:17:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA18376; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:17:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA18362 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:17:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.88.162]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA18296 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:17:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from keiths-mac.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.88.112]; by hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5/S-4.0) with ESMTP; for ""; id RAA09195; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:16:43 GMT X-Sender: keithc@pophost.dcs.qmw.ac.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:16:38 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Keith Clarke Subject: [netatalk-admins] restarting afpd Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi netatalkers.. I have a newbie question: how can I restart afpd with the least disruption to my users? I have a version running doing CR/LF translation, and people don't want that. So I make a new version with translation off... if I kill the original root process & restart, will things operate smoothly, so that each person who reconnects gets the new version, while others continue to use the old one? Thanks Keith Clarke From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 18 15:55:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA17569 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:55:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA17554 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:54:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA25855; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:54:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA25848 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:54:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA25830 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 15:54:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA124694; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:56:55 -0800 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 12:56:55 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: Keith Clarke cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] restarting afpd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, Keith Clarke wrote: > Hi netatalkers.. > > I have a newbie question: how can I restart afpd with the least disruption > to my users? > > I have a version running doing CR/LF translation, and people don't want > that. So I make a new version with translation off... if I kill the > original root process & restart, will things operate smoothly, so that each > person who reconnects gets the new version, while others continue to use > the old one? If you kill the afpd process, any logged-in users will be disrupted. Someone mentioned a clever thing to do in this case. Leave the old afpd running, but use nbpunrgstr to un-register the fileserver's entry from the nbp tables. Then start the new afpd. It will fire up, and register itself with nbp (so it shows up in the chooser), and all new connections will go to it. But all old connections are still ok with the old server. Then tell all your users to log out and then back in. Kill the old afpd after a few days. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 18 17:20:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA24293 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:20:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA24288 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:20:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA07217; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:20:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA06564 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:18:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from gtpd.police.gatech.edu (gtpd.police.gatech.edu [130.207.68.75]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA05806 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:17:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from [130.207.68.58] (sysadmin.police.gatech.edu [130.207.68.58]) by gtpd.police.gatech.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01650 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:17:28 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: brad@130.207.68.75 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 17:17:56 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: "Brad E. Wagner" Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk 1.4b2+asun18.2 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu What are the comparative advantages and disadvantages of Sun's Totalnet TAS 5.0 appletalk services compared to netatalk? Anyone? Thanks. Just upgraded to 2.6 and want to know whether to bother changing to TAS. Enjoy, Brad Brad E. Wagner e-mail: brad.wagner@police.gatech.edu Systems Administrator Office: (404) 894-6807 Ga Tech Police Department Fax: (404) 894-6808 Atlanta, GA 30332-0440 Web: http://www.police.gatech.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 19 08:47:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA16374 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 08:47:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA16368 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 08:47:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA05081; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 08:47:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA04675 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 08:46:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from jerseycape.com (mail.jerseycape.com [206.66.24.10]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id IAA04266 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 08:45:07 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 08:46:30 -0500 Received: from k-mccord.ac-coin.com [208.204.224.254] by jerseycape.com with smtp id AICOAACI ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 08:46:00 -0500 Message-ID: <000c01bd3d3d$8a2ac4c0$fd03a8c0@k-mccord.ac-coin.com> From: "Ken McCord" To: Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: Netatalk Routing Problem... Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 08:51:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu -----Original Message----- From: Andras Kadinger To: Ken McCord Date: Wednesday, February 18, 1998 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: Netatalk Routing Problem... >Hello Ken, > >Ken McCord wrote: >> >> Having a problem routing with Netatalk 1.4b2.. >> >> >> Network is configured as follows: >> >> >> Alpha zone (numbered 2-2) - DMZ zone (1-1) - Linux router - Beta zone >> (3-3) >> >> >> Linux router ('scoobiedoo') is configured to route IP, IPX and Appletalk >> (IP >> >> and IPX route with no problem). Atalkd.conf is set to: >> >> >> To DMZ zone: eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 1 -addr 1.72 -zone "DMZ" >> >> To Beta zone: eth1 -seed -phase 2 -net 3 -addr 3.251 -zone "BETA" > >I've just got an idea: might You be using tulip cards and/or some Linux >version before 2.0.33? To put it in other words: issue an nbplkup, and >see, what the Linux machine can see on the network. > >Older tulip drivers had some problems with AppleTalk, which might >materialize themselves in the machine not seeing other objects on the >network, or not being able to respond to queries on the network, causing >it not to appear in the chooser, or even spurious network malfunctions, >as the one You are reporting. I've got a pair of Linksys NE2000 clones in the machine. Kernel version is 2.0.28/29 (whichever came with RH 4.2). I can certainly try a newer version. > >> Timbuktu Pro is a remote control/access program (like PC Anywhere) for Macs >> and PCs. It works over IP, IPX and Appletalk. Our Macs use it for file >> transfers. Our problem is that Macs in the Beta zone can see and control >> Macs in the Alpha zone, but not vice versa. > >I suppose, You are using Appletalk with Timbuktu Pro. Is the problem >present regarding convetional AppleShare activity? > >> We also have a MS Mail for Appletalk networks mail server in the Beta zone. >> Macs in the Alpha zone cannot connect to this machine to get their mail. >> Problems also happen if the Mac is moved from the Alpha zone to the DMZ >> zone. >> >> >>Macs on the Alpha network can see Macs on the DMZ zone, but not the Beta >> zone. >> >> > What kind of router is it between Alpha and DMZ? >> >> We have a pair of Farallon Netopia 440's between the DMZ and Alpha zone. >> Appletalk is configured for these routers, and we've had Farallon check the >> configuration. > >So that should function correctly, and not be the cause. > >> > Not necessarily, since it has only one address on the network, which >> happens to > be on the other interface. This is normal and should not cause >> a problem, except > maybe, appearing on a different zone than You wanted. >> After rereading Your > previous sentences: Yes, it looks strange to >> me, too. > >This is a bit late to say, but I am not as much an expert as I try to >pose in the role. :-) So someone more knowledgeable should give the >authoritative answer for the one above, if Your problems don't go away. > >> I'm going to try the older 1.3.3 version of Netatalk. Maybe that will make >> a difference. > >I am afraid only in the wrong direction. Nevertheless, it might worth a >try after making sure, that the driver for Your network card works >properly. > >Sincerely, >Andras Kadinger >bandit@freeside.elte.hu > >PS: I am sorry, but can't remember the exact version of netatalk You are >using. I would recommend to upgrade to at least netatalk 1.4b2+asun18 - >but I faintly remember You mentioning something already in that >direction. I've seen that version mentioned several times, but I haven't seen a location where it can be retrieved from. Can someone post a ftp location?? Thanks again, Ken From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 19 10:15:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA18576 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 10:15:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy.epstudio.com ([206.21.112.30] (may be forged)) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA18571 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 10:15:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from ep25 ([206.21.112.25]) by proxy.epstudio.com (Post.Office MTA v3.0 release 0122 ID# 501-39380U100L2S100) with SMTP id AAA1295 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 10:16:03 -0500 Message-ID: <002001bd3d48$eecf8900$197015ce@ep25.epstudio.com> From: "Jason Vasquez" To: Subject: [netatalk-admins] OS 8 Problems Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 10:13:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01BD3D1F.05282740" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BD3D1F.05282740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think this problem is a result of several Macs now using OS 8 (we = didn't have problems with 7.5.5 and 7.6) Whenever a mac user tries to copy a folder to his local machine, the = transfer will count all the files, and then say that it can't find the = first one. The copy can be accomplished by entering the folder, = selecting all, and then dragging. Also, duplicates show up when viewing = the contents of the folder. (very disheartening when you have a 900 = files to transfer with duplicates!) Any help would be appreciated! Jason Vasquez Network Administrator Eastpoint Communications ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BD3D1F.05282740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think this problem is a result of = several Macs=20 now using OS 8 (we didn't have problems with 7.5.5 and 7.6)
 
Whenever a mac user tries to copy a = folder to=20 his local machine, the transfer will count all the files, and then say = that it=20 can't find the first one.  The copy can be accomplished by entering = the=20 folder, selecting all, and then dragging.  Also, duplicates show up = when=20 viewing the contents of the folder.  (very disheartening when = you =20 have a 900 files to transfer with duplicates!)
 
Any help would be = appreciated!
  Jason Vasquez
  Network = Administrator
  Eastpoint=20 Communications
------=_NextPart_000_001D_01BD3D1F.05282740-- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 19 10:56:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA20402 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 10:56:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from rice.farm.niu.edu (rice.farm.niu.edu [131.156.99.2]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA20395 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 10:56:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from [131.156.7.61] (moe.acs.niu.edu [131.156.7.61]) by rice.farm.niu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00208 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 09:56:02 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: z954043@rice.farm.niu.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002001bd3d48$eecf8900$197015ce@ep25.epstudio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 09:55:51 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu From: Brian Bergstrand Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] OS 8 Problems Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >I think this problem is a result of several Macs now using OS 8 (we didn't >have problems with 7.5.5 and 7.6) > >Whenever a mac user tries to copy a folder to his local machine, the >transfer will count all the files, and then say that it can't find the >first one. The copy can be accomplished by entering the folder, selecting >all, and then dragging. Also, duplicates show up when viewing the >contents of the folder. (very disheartening when you have a 900 files to >transfer with duplicates!) > >Any help would be appreciated! > Jason Vasquez > Network Administrator > Eastpoint Communications You don't say what version of netatalk you are using. If you have not upgraded to 1.4b2+asun18.2 do so, it fixes a lot of bugs. We are supporting quite a few 8 and 8.1 machines with this version, with no problems. Brian Brian Bergstrand Network Specialist - ACS Northern Illinois University 815-753-8547 bbergstrand@niu.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 19 12:33:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA25266 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 12:33:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA25242 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 12:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA24135 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 12:08:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA28639; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 12:08:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA28410 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 12:07:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from products.lee.net ([205.242.140.31]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA27773 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 12:06:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (luke@localhost) by products.lee.net (8.8.5/8.6.10) with SMTP id LAA01103 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 11:08:47 -0600 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 11:08:47 -0600 (CST) From: Luke Kelly To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] afp_write: ad_write: Bad file descriptor Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, I'm not sure if this is the right place for this question, so please excuse my interruption. I administer a freeBSD machine that uses netatalk to store files from a Mac BBS. Users log into the BBS and share a single netatalk user to store files in internet accessible areas. This set-up recently switched from Linux to freeBSD and with the change, I've heard complaints from users that large files are not transferring properly. I've tested and found this error relative to the problem: Feb 18 17:04:18 zr2 afpd[156]: afp_write: ad_write: Bad file descriptor The strange thing is that only a handful of users report this problem and others have no problems whatsoever-- nevertheless, it is consistent with certain macs. I guess I'm looking for pointers or any information that can get me headed in the right direction. Thanks for you time, and if you don't mind please CC any discussion to . Thanks again. Luke Kelly From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 19 12:35:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA25498 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 12:35:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA25460 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 12:34:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from infolive.ie (gateway.infolive.ie [193.120.120.2]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA25361 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 12:33:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.0.0.71] ([10.0.0.71]) by gateway.infolive.ie with ESMTP id <20610>; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:23:52 +0000 X-Sender: moran@10.0.0.20 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu From: Tony Moran Subject: [netatalk-admins] Patches ? Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:23:50 +0000 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm running Netatalk 1.4b2 on Intel/Linux, with Shadow passwords, what patches *should* I have, installed ? Everything seems to be running fine mostly.. are the asun patches for Sun machines only or for all installations ? Cheers, Tony. __________________________________________________ Tony Moran IT Manager Ph: (+353-1)-8303455 Scope Communications. Fax: (+353-1)-8300888 http://www.jobfinder.ie http://www.infolive.ie Ireland's online Jobs and IT resources Web Site - Check us out ! __________________________________________________ How to complain about Spam: http://weber.ucsd.edu/~pagre/spam.html From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 19 14:05:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA28587 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:05:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA28579 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:04:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from infolive.ie (gateway.infolive.ie [193.120.120.2]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA25361 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 12:33:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.0.0.71] ([10.0.0.71]) by gateway.infolive.ie with ESMTP id <20610>; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:23:52 +0000 X-Sender: moran@10.0.0.20 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu From: Tony Moran Subject: [netatalk-admins] Patches ? Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:23:50 +0000 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm running Netatalk 1.4b2 on Intel/Linux, with Shadow passwords, what patches *should* I have, installed ? Everything seems to be running fine mostly.. are the asun patches for Sun machines only or for all installations ? Cheers, Tony. __________________________________________________ Tony Moran IT Manager Ph: (+353-1)-8303455 Scope Communications. Fax: (+353-1)-8300888 http://www.jobfinder.ie http://www.infolive.ie Ireland's online Jobs and IT resources Web Site - Check us out ! __________________________________________________ How to complain about Spam: http://weber.ucsd.edu/~pagre/spam.html From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 19 14:05:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA28607 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:05:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA28588 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:05:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA27092 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 13:01:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA16434; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 13:02:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA16431 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 13:02:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from voyager.dynamind-llc.com (voyager.dynamind-llc.com [206.153.113.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id NAA16426 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 13:02:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from dyna-ntserver by voyager.dynamind-llc.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA28852; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 13:01:46 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980219130058.00d80d30@dynamind-llc.com> X-Sender: philip@dynamind-llc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 13:00:58 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: "Philip S. Wachtel" Subject: [netatalk-admins] holy jumping folders batman! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hey all, I've run up against a strange problem. I'm running netatalk 1.4b2 on a RedHat 4.2 Linux machine running kernel 2.0.30. The Macs are running OS 8. It's come to a point where my Mac users can't use their shared directories (especially if there are a lot of files within) effectively because the number of files keep changing every few seconds and the contents of the folders jump around. I looked through the archive from this list and didn't come up with anything, so if anyone has any ideas, I would be very grateful. Thanks very much for your help. Philip philip@dynamind-llc.com From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 19 14:05:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA28692 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:05:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA28674 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:05:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA28398 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 13:58:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA15459; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 13:59:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA15443 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 13:59:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from voyager.dynamind-llc.com (voyager.dynamind-llc.com [206.153.113.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id NAA15433 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 13:59:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from dyna-ntserver by voyager.dynamind-llc.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA29565; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 13:59:06 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980219135819.00dba680@dynamind-llc.com> X-Sender: philip@dynamind-llc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 13:58:19 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: "Philip S. Wachtel" Subject: [netatalk-admins] followup on "holy jumping folders batman!" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I also tried to apply the afpd-macos8.diff patch, but I get the following result: [root@kramer netatalk-1.4b2]# patch -p0 < afpd-macos8.diff Hmm... Looks like a new-style context diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |*** etc/afpd/file.c- 1997/08/17 00:01:46 |--- etc/afpd/file.c 1997/08/20 22:39:08 -------------------------- Patching file etc/afpd/file.c using Plan A... Hunk #1 failed at 125. 1 out of 1 hunks failed--saving rejects to etc/afpd/file.c.rej Hmm... The next patch looks like a new-style context diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |*** etc/afpd/fork.c- 1997/08/17 00:01:46 |--- etc/afpd/fork.c 1997/08/26 03:50:24 -------------------------- Patching file etc/afpd/fork.c using Plan A... Hunk #1 failed at 95. Hunk #2 failed at 173. Hunk #3 failed at 323. Hunk #4 failed at 556. Hunk #5 failed at 650. Hunk #6 failed at 718. 6 out of 6 hunks failed--saving rejects to etc/afpd/fork.c.rej Hmm... Ignoring the trailing garbage. done I can't seem to figure this one out. Thanks again. Philip From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 19 14:43:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA01125 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:43:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA01121 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:43:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA08421; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:43:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA08390 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:43:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA08335 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:43:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id UAA23420 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:43:39 +0100 Message-ID: <34EC8AC5.20E85219@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:40:54 +0100 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] asun patches location References: <000c01bd3d3d$8a2ac4c0$fd03a8c0@k-mccord.ac-coin.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Ken McCord wrote: > I've seen that version mentioned several times, but I haven't seen a > location where it can be retrieved from. Can someone post a ftp location?? ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/public/asun/ is what I have. To Tony Moran and everyone interested: these patches are not specifically for Sun machines; the author is Adrian Sun, I suppose, he used his account name 'asun' to name the patch set. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 19 14:50:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA01513 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:50:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA01497 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:50:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA10979; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:50:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA10968 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:50:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA10953 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 14:50:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id UAA23642 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:50:33 +0100 Message-ID: <34EC8C83.836CC3EE@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:48:19 +0100 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] holy jumping folders batman! References: <3.0.1.32.19980219130058.00d80d30@dynamind-llc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Philip S. Wachtel wrote: > I've run up against a strange problem. I'm running netatalk 1.4b2 on a > RedHat 4.2 Linux machine running kernel 2.0.30. The Macs are running OS 8. > It's come to a point where my Mac users can't use their shared directories > (especially if there are a lot of files within) effectively because the > number of files keep changing every few seconds and the contents of the > folders jump around. I looked through the archive from this list and > didn't come up with anything, so if anyone has any ideas, I would be very > grateful. Thanks very much for your help. Please try Adrian Sun's 'asun' patches, I posted the URL a few minutes ago for. Alternatively, try the umich 'dancing icon' patches. The netatalk home page is at http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 19 15:03:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA02848 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:03:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA02832 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:03:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA16623; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:03:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA16599 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:03:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA16562 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:03:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id VAA24398 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:03:29 +0100 Message-ID: <34EC8F6D.E59ED53A@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:00:46 +0100 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: Netatalk Routing Problem... References: <000c01bd3d3d$8a2ac4c0$fd03a8c0@k-mccord.ac-coin.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu While we are at it: What does nbplkup tell You? Can other objects on the network be seen from the Linux box? Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 19 15:56:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA05712 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:56:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA05708 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:56:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA13929; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:56:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA13926 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:56:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from jerseycape.com (mail.jerseycape.com [206.66.24.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id PAA13918 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:56:16 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:56:42 -0500 Received: from k-mccord.ac-coin.com [208.204.224.254] by jerseycape.com with smtp id APDHDBBO ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:55:48 -0500 Message-ID: <001801bd3d79$b8ce31e0$fd03a8c0@k-mccord.ac-coin.com> From: "Ken McCord" To: Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: Netatalk Routing Problem... Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:02:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sorry for the delay...it's been crazy around here today (but then, when isn't it??). Here's the output from nbplkup. It looks like it's getting information from the eth0 interface (based on the other devices being listed - they're in the DMZ zone). No information for devices in the Alpha or Beta zones was included in the output. scoobiedoo:AFPServer 3.251:128 scoobiedoo:netatalk 3.251:4 scoobiedoo:Workstation 3.251:4 LanRoverE:LanRover/E 1.176:78 LanRoverE:SNMP Agent 1.176:8 LanRoverE:ADSP 1.176:86 LanRoverE:Shiva Dial-Out 1.176:128 Netopia 440 #11218:Farallon Router 1.150:100 Oh yeah, RH 4.2 has kernel 2.0.30 (not 28.29 - my mistake). Thanks for the pointer to the asun patches! Ken -----Original Message----- From: Andras Kadinger To: Netatalk list Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: Netatalk Routing Problem... >While we are at it: > >What does nbplkup tell You? Can other objects on the network be seen >from the Linux box? > >Sincerely, >Andras Kadinger >bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 19 16:14:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA06606 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:14:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA06598 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:14:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA04158 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:24:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA25525; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:24:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA25509 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:24:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.ufl.edu (sp04.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.175.134]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA25374 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:24:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from pbc.circa.ufl.edu (pbc.circa.ufl.edu [128.227.8.170]) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/1.5.1) with SMTP id PAA113628 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:23:54 -0500 From: "Leo Wierzbowski" To: "Netatalk list" Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk ip vs atalk Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:24:10 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd3d74$561a3260$aa08e380@pbc.circa.ufl.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, I've installed netatalk 1.4b2 + asun 2.0a18 on RedHat 5.0 and it's working OK in my tests. I've done a couple of file transfer time trials with my appleshare 3.7.2 client and I've not seen any significant difference in speed between appleshare/ip and appleshare/ethertalk. Is this normal or have I configured something improperly? I assume my PowerMac 601/120 and x86/233 Server are sufficiently fast. Sincerely, Leo Wierzbowski http://grove.ufl.edu/~leo/ Valentine's Day: http://grove.ufl.edu/~leo/val.html "The University of Florida does not endorse or disendorse the content of this document. Everything is the author's private opinion." -----Original Message----- From: Andras Kadinger To: Netatalk list Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: Netatalk Routing Problem... >While we are at it: > >What does nbplkup tell You? Can other objects on the network be seen >from the Linux box? > >Sincerely, >Andras Kadinger >bandit@freeside.elte.hu > From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 19 16:45:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA08477 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:45:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA08472 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:45:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA27335; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:45:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA27331 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:45:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from geo.polymtl.ca (geo.polymtl.ca [132.207.36.3]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id QAA27291 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:45:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from harricana.geo.polymtl.ca by geo.polymtl.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA01668; Thu, 19 Feb 98 16:45:25 EST Received: by harricana.geo.polymtl.ca (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA01084; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:42:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:42:27 -0500 From: giroux@geo.polymtl.ca (Bernard Giroux) Message-Id: <199802192142.QAA01084@harricana.geo.polymtl.ca> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] connection unexpectedly closed X-Sun-Charset: ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi everyone, I remember seeing an equivalent post a few months ago, but I couldn't find it back in the online archive... My problem is that, after I enter my password and click OK when I try to login as registered user, I instantly get a nice window telling me that the connection was unexpectedly broken. I run MacOS 8.1 on a 6100 (the only mac here...) I just installed "netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2" from A. Sun's ftp site on a Sparc 20 running Solaris 2.6 (without any other patch). Thanks for any clue Bernard ____________________________________________________________________ Bernard Giroux Département des génies CGM Étudiant Ph.D. géophysique École Polytechnique C.P. 6079, succ. A Montréal, Qc Tel: (514) 340-4711, ext. 4560 H3C 3A7 Fax: (514) 340-3970 CANADA _____________________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 19 16:58:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA09349 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:58:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA09340 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:58:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA09144 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:54:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA29467; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:55:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA29456 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:55:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from voyager.dynamind-llc.com (voyager.dynamind-llc.com [206.153.113.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id QAA29387 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:55:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from dyna-ntserver by voyager.dynamind-llc.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA01452; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:54:43 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980219165357.01115e80@dynamind-llc.com> X-Sender: philip@dynamind-llc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:53:57 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: "Philip S. Wachtel" Subject: [netatalk-admins] re:followup on "holy jumping folders batman!" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I can't tell you how much I appreciate your help. I grabbed it, added -DSHADOWPW and did a make;make install and there it was. Thanks so much. I still don't know why I can't patch anything myself. I've done it before to other programs. Hmm. Makes ya think. Thanks again! And thanks to all involved as well. Philip From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 19 17:42:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA11369 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 17:42:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA11358 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 17:42:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA18039; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 17:43:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA18031 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 17:43:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from coe.missouri.edu (tiger.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.20]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA18007 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 17:43:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger.coe.missouri.edu (tiger.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.20]) by coe.missouri.edu (8.8.8/8.8.3) with SMTP id QAA24808; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:41:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:41:54 -0600 (CST) From: Mark Donnelly To: Leo Wierzbowski cc: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk ip vs atalk In-Reply-To: <01bd3d74$561a3260$aa08e380@pbc.circa.ufl.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Are you sure you are, in fact, connecting via Appletalk rather than Appletalk/IP? By default, the client will probe for an Appletalk/IP connection on the host machine and use it if available. I think you can hold down option or something in the chooser to enforce Appletalk/Ethertalk... Hope this helps, --Mark "I think so Brain, but if they called them sad meals, then nobody would buy them." --Pinky From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 19 17:54:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA12353 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 17:54:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA12348 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 17:54:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA22267; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 17:54:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA22242 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 17:54:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from geo.polymtl.ca (geo.polymtl.ca [132.207.36.3]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id RAA22169 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 17:54:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from harricana.geo.polymtl.ca by geo.polymtl.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA02071; Thu, 19 Feb 98 17:54:07 EST Received: by harricana.geo.polymtl.ca (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA01245; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 17:51:09 -0500 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 17:51:09 -0500 From: giroux@geo.polymtl.ca (Bernard Giroux) Message-Id: <199802192251.RAA01245@harricana.geo.polymtl.ca> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] STREAMS ??? X-Sun-Charset: ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi again, I'm still trying to get netatalk running on my solaris 2.6 machine... (I actually had it running on a SunOS 4.1.3 machine with a OS 7.5 mac, but since the upgrade...) I'd like to know the difference le0 or eth0 in atalkd.conf make. Also, I just restarted "sh rc.atalkd start" with eth0 in atalkd.conf to get: # sh rc.atalk start starting appletalk daemons: can't establish STREAMS plumbing, exiting. atalkdnbp_rgstr: Connection timed out Can't register ithaca:Workstation@* nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out Can't register ithaca:netatalk@* nbprgstr papd afpd. Where to get the unbuggy STREAMS stuff Adrain Sun is talking about in his README file??? thanks again ____________________________________________________________________ Bernard Giroux Département des génies CGM Étudiant Ph.D. géophysique École Polytechnique C.P. 6079, succ. A Montréal, Qc Tel: (514) 340-4711, ext. 4560 H3C 3A7 Fax: (514) 340-3970 CANADA _____________________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 19 19:07:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA14748 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 19:07:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA14741 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 19:06:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA14585 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 19:05:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA14895; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 19:06:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA14886 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 19:06:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA14861 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 19:06:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA01362; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:04:48 GMT Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:04:47 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Bernard Giroux cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] STREAMS ??? In-Reply-To: <199802192251.RAA01245@harricana.geo.polymtl.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Bernard Giroux wrote: > I'd like to know the difference le0 or eth0 in atalkd.conf make. Also, I > just restarted "sh rc.atalkd start" with eth0 in atalkd.conf to get: Some Unices call their Ethernet interfaces le and others eth. I have no idea why this is so, but presumably things won't work unless you use the one appropriate to your platform. -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 19 21:41:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA18557 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:41:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA18553 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:41:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA22706; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:43:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA22703 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:43:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA22690 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:43:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21244; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:41:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from cec.mtu.edu (root@cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.196]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA06278; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:41:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from critter.cec.mtu.edu (critter.cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.204]) by cec.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/mtumailer-1.2) with SMTP id VAA16833; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:41:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:42:27 -0500 (EST) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@critter.cec.mtu.edu To: Bernard Giroux cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] STREAMS ??? In-Reply-To: <199802192251.RAA01245@harricana.geo.polymtl.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > I'm still trying to get netatalk running on my solaris 2.6 machine... check out http://www.cec.mtu.edu/Doc/FAQ/netatalk.html particularly for a version to download and try. > I'd like to know the difference le0 or eth0 in atalkd.conf make. Also, I > just restarted "sh rc.atalkd start" with eth0 in atalkd.conf to get: le stands for Lance Ethernet, the ethernet that Sun used for a long time... do a 'man le' on your machine, if you don't believe me. :) I think 'eth' is just short for ethernet. That's probably what they call the ethernet device on PC unices. Sun's new hme device is short for "HoMEy." (well, no.) - edan -- Edan Idzerda System Administrator -- Michigan Technological University, Houghton MI USA From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 19 21:57:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA19318 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA19314 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:57:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA23208; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:57:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA23206 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:57:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from geo.polymtl.ca (geo.polymtl.ca [132.207.36.3]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id VAA23202 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:57:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from harricana.geo.polymtl.ca by geo.polymtl.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA03576; Thu, 19 Feb 98 21:57:23 EST Received: by harricana.geo.polymtl.ca (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA01560; Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:54:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:54:24 -0500 From: giroux@geo.polymtl.ca (Bernard Giroux) Message-Id: <199802200254.VAA01560@harricana.geo.polymtl.ca> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] STREAMS ??? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Thu Feb 19 21:42:42 1998 > Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:42:27 -0500 (EST) > From: Edan Idzerda > X-Sender: edan@critter.cec.mtu.edu > To: Bernard Giroux > Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] STREAMS ??? > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > > I'm still trying to get netatalk running on my solaris 2.6 machine... > Thanks, 'finally got it working just fine. > check out > > http://www.cec.mtu.edu/Doc/FAQ/netatalk.html > > particularly for a version to download and try. > > > > I'd like to know the difference le0 or eth0 in atalkd.conf make. Also, I > > just restarted "sh rc.atalkd start" with eth0 in atalkd.conf to get: > > le stands for Lance Ethernet, the ethernet that Sun used for a long time... > do a 'man le' on your machine, if you don't believe me. :) > > I think 'eth' is just short for ethernet. That's probably what they call > the ethernet device on PC unices. > > Sun's new hme device is short for "HoMEy." (well, no.) > > - edan > > -- > Edan Idzerda > System Administrator -- Michigan Technological University, Houghton MI USA > > From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 20 06:42:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA20387 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 06:42:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA20374 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 06:42:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id GAA24105; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 06:42:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id GAA24021 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 06:42:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from prawn.amxdigital.com (dns0.amxdigital.com [195.238.161.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id GAA23969 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 06:41:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from phong.amxdigital.com by prawn.amxdigital.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id EAA21391; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 04:32:47 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980220114006.00cf2f9c@amxdigital.com> X-Sender: jon@amxdigital.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:40:06 +0000 To: Netatalk list From: Jonathan Peterson Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] holy jumping folders batman! In-Reply-To: <34EC8C83.836CC3EE@freeside.elte.hu> References: <3.0.1.32.19980219130058.00d80d30@dynamind-llc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 08:48 PM 2/19/98 +0100, Andras Kadinger wrote: >Philip S. Wachtel wrote: >> I've run up against a strange problem. I'm running netatalk 1.4b2 on a snip >> number of files keep changing every few seconds and the contents of the >> folders jump around. I looked through the archive from this list and >> didn't come up with anything, so if anyone has any ideas, I would be very >> grateful. Thanks very much for your help. > >Please try Adrian Sun's 'asun' patches, I posted the URL a few minutes >ago for. Alternatively, try the umich 'dancing icon' patches. The >netatalk home page is at http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk. The Asun patches had no visible effect for me (Linux 2.0.27), and I couldn't get the dancing icon patch file to work. It said that all the hunks failed. I'm not a patch expert, but I tried most of the reasonable looking options and hit the same barrier each time. -------- Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 Internet Developer From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 20 06:48:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA20727 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 06:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA20722 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 06:48:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id GAA24904; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 06:49:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id GAA24845 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 06:48:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from prawn.amxdigital.com (dns0.amxdigital.com [195.238.161.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id GAA24815 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 06:48:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from phong.amxdigital.com by prawn.amxdigital.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id EAA21415; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 04:39:22 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980220114641.00cf2f9c@amxdigital.com> X-Sender: jon@amxdigital.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:46:41 +0000 To: Netatalk list From: Jonathan Peterson Subject: [netatalk-admins] Restarting daemons on Linux In-Reply-To: <34EC8C83.836CC3EE@freeside.elte.hu> References: <3.0.1.32.19980219130058.00d80d30@dynamind-llc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I looked into this a while ago and I got the impression that it was a well known problem with no solution. Bascially, If I stop all the various netatalk daemons (with killall, or kill), and then try and start them again, I get the error: Appletalk not up! Child exited with 1 I have to reboot the box to restart the daemons. Is there a known solution to this? I have Linux 2.0.27 and Netatalk-1.4b2asun18. -------- Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 Internet Developer From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 20 07:20:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA21873 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 07:20:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA21863 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 07:20:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id HAA29929; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 07:21:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id HAA29829 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 07:20:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA29776 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 07:20:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (vivek@malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by malkav.imaginet.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA22398; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 12:17:38 GMT Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 12:17:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Vivek To: Jonathan Peterson cc: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Restarting daemons on Linux In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980220114641.00cf2f9c@amxdigital.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > Bascially, If I stop all the various netatalk daemons (with killall, or > kill), and then try and start them again, I get the error: > Appletalk not up! Child exited with 1 > > I have to reboot the box to restart the daemons. Is there a known solution > to this? IIRC, if you compile the DDP stuff as a module, then you can kill the daemons, rmmod the ddp stuff, insmod it again, and restart the daemons. [I've never actually done this myself, but I'm told it works]. -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 20 08:08:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA22869 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:08:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA22863 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:08:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA12445; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:09:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA12309 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:08:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from sparty.cecom.com (creative.cecom.com [208.202.113.128]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA12248 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:08:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from cecom.com ([172.28.1.39]) by sparty.cecom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id AAA25FA for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:01:27 -0500 Message-ID: <34ED7FEF.C572477E@cecom.com> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:06:55 -0500 From: "Sean A. Snyder" Organization: Campbell-Ewald Advertising X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] STREAMS ??? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Edan Idzerda wrote: > le stands for Lance Ethernet, the ethernet that Sun used for a long time... > do a 'man le' on your machine, if you don't believe me. :) > > I think 'eth' is just short for ethernet. That's probably what they call > the ethernet device on PC unices. > > Sun's new hme device is short for "HoMEy." (well, no.) Not to be anal, BUUUUUT, according to some Sun support documentation that I've got on their various 100mbit ethernet products, the hme stands for "Happy Meal Ethernet". This stands to reason, since the old half-duplex 100mbit be device name stood for "BigMac Ethernet". Is it just me, or does it seem like somebody at Sun got a case of the munchies??? Sean (Go Tech!) -- ___________________________________________ Sean A. Snyder (ssnyder@cecom.com) \ Strange but not a stranger Systems Administrator \ I'm an ordinary guy... Campbell-Ewald Advertising/C-E Communications\_________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 20 08:19:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA23408 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:19:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA23389 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:18:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA16719; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:19:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA16523 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:19:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from prawn.amxdigital.com (dns0.amxdigital.com [195.238.161.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id IAA16403 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:18:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from phong.amxdigital.com by prawn.amxdigital.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) id GAA21595; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 06:09:22 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980220131642.00d1b384@amxdigital.com> X-Sender: jon@amxdigital.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:16:42 +0000 To: Alistair Riddell From: Jonathan Peterson Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] holy jumping folders batman! Cc: Netatalk list In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.19980220114006.00cf2f9c@amxdigital.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 01:09 PM 2/20/98 +0000, Alistair Riddell wrote: >If you are having difficulty applying the patch then you could download >the already-patched version from >ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/pub/user-supported/asun/... >...netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2.tar.gz Ooops, I wasn't being very clear; the asun patch applied OK. It was the afpd-macos8.diff patch from the netatalk home pages that wasn't working. It only patches two files, (file.c and fork.c, I think) maybe someone could send those two files to me? Thanks, -------- Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 Internet Developer Test tube babies shouldn't throw stones. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 20 08:24:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA23793 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:24:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA23785 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:24:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA18943; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:25:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA18727 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:24:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from newsgate.dircon.co.uk (uugate1.dircon.co.uk [194.112.50.20]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA18595 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:24:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from nan.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by newsgate.dircon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.7) with UUCP id NAA18327; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:22:34 GMT Received: by mailhost.nan.co.uk (sendmail 8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA21390; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:20:29 GMT X-Sender: sw@mailhost.nan.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.19980220114641.00cf2f9c@amxdigital.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 3.1 Organization: Network Analysis Ltd Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:19:38 +0000 To: Vivek From: Sak Wathanasin Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Restarting daemons on Linux Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In reply to Vivek's message of the 20/02/98 at 12:17 +0000, > On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > > > Bascially, If I stop all the various netatalk daemons (with killall, or > > kill), and then try and start them again, I get the error: > > Appletalk not up! Child exited with 1 > > > > I have to reboot the box to restart the daemons. Is there a known solution > > to this? > > IIRC, if you compile the DDP stuff as a module, then you can > kill the daemons, rmmod the ddp stuff, insmod it again, and restart the > daemons. [I've never actually done this myself, but I'm told it works]. > > -- > fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex I don't think you have to do that: either apply A Sun's linux kernel patches or use a kernel more recent than 2.0.30. I run RH 5.0/2.0.32 here with 1.4b2/asun18.2 (and ATalk compiled into the kernel, not as a module) and I can use the script in init.d to start and stop atalk at will. Ditto on the Solaris 2.5.1 machines at my clients. Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK Internet: sw@nan.co.uk Phone: (+44) 1203 419996 Fax: (+44) 1203 690690 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 20 08:28:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA24230 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:28:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA24204 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:28:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA21072; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:29:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA20824 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:28:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from morris.glam.ac.uk (morris.glam.ac.uk [193.63.134.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA20706 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:28:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from ems2.glam.ac.uk by morris.glam.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:34:12 +0000 Received: by EMS2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:26:43 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Wilkins M (ISD)" To: Bernard Giroux , "'Alistair Riddell'" Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] STREAMS ??? Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:26:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu "eth" is a generic ethernet interface found on many *n?xes. "le" is "Lance Ethernet", AFAIK it's a Sun Only Thing. (probably referring to an AMD Lance ethernet chip. Cheers! M. > ---------- > From: Alistair Riddell[SMTP:alistair@watsons.edin.sch.uk] > Sent: 20 February 1998 00:04 > To: Bernard Giroux > Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] STREAMS ??? > > On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Bernard Giroux wrote: > > > I'd like to know the difference le0 or eth0 in atalkd.conf make. > Also, I > > just restarted "sh rc.atalkd start" with eth0 in atalkd.conf to get: > > Some Unices call their Ethernet interfaces le and others eth. I have > no > idea why this is so, but presumably things won't work unless you use > the > one appropriate to your platform. > > -- > Alistair Riddell - BOFH > IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh > Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 > From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 20 08:29:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA24442 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:29:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA24336 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:29:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA21526; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:30:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA21293 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:29:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from livingstones.nl ([195.240.118.1] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA21096 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:29:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from hms-kantoor (MagmaWeb.livingstones.nl [145.49.10.200]) by livingstones.nl (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id PAA03272 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:33:26 GMT From: Conrad Hagemans Reply-To: To: Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk over PPP connection Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 14:33:51 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is it possible to let netatalk to communicate over a serial point to point connection? I have a small ethernet network with some pc's (Win95, NT and Linux) hooked up together with a hub. Now i want to connect a very old Mac SE to this linux box. I installed netatalk. It runs fine over the ethernet card. But the SE doesn't have a networkcard so i kooked it up to the linux box with a nullmodem cable, installed mactcp. I opend between the two a ppp connection. So far it runs fine. If i open ifconfig i see the ppp0 and eth0 device. After starting up netatalk i see it's binded to the ethernet but not to the ppp device. Is this not possible?? --------------------------- Conrad Hagemans Livingstones Nederland bv chagemans@livingstones.nl http:\\www.livingstones.nl =========================== From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 20 11:01:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA29523 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:01:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA29409 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:01:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA23156 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:11:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA13424; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:12:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA13268 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:11:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA13144 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:11:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA30017; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:09:21 GMT Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:09:21 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Jonathan Peterson cc: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] holy jumping folders batman! In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980220114006.00cf2f9c@amxdigital.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu If you are having difficulty applying the patch then you could download the already-patched version from ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/pub/user-supported/asun/... ...netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2.tar.gz On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > At 08:48 PM 2/19/98 +0100, Andras Kadinger wrote: > >Philip S. Wachtel wrote: > >> I've run up against a strange problem. I'm running netatalk 1.4b2 on a > snip > >> number of files keep changing every few seconds and the contents of the > >> folders jump around. I looked through the archive from this list and > >> didn't come up with anything, so if anyone has any ideas, I would be very > >> grateful. Thanks very much for your help. > > > >Please try Adrian Sun's 'asun' patches, I posted the URL a few minutes > >ago for. Alternatively, try the umich 'dancing icon' patches. The > >netatalk home page is at http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk. > > The Asun patches had no visible effect for me (Linux 2.0.27), and I > couldn't get the dancing icon patch file to work. It said that all the > hunks failed. I'm not a patch expert, but I tried most of the reasonable > looking options and hit the same barrier each time. > > -------- > Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 > Internet Developer > > -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 20 11:01:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA29544 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:01:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA29433 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:01:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA24116 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:27:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA20600; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:28:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA20263 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:27:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA20124 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:27:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA30951; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:25:55 GMT Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:25:54 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Jonathan Peterson cc: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] holy jumping folders batman! In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980220131642.00d1b384@amxdigital.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I don't think that the afpd-macos8.diff patch is required if you use Adrian's patch. The dancing icons problem was fixed in asun2.0a12 or thereabouts. The afpd-macos8.diff patch is required only if you are using vanilla netatalk-1.4b2. On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > At 01:09 PM 2/20/98 +0000, Alistair Riddell wrote: > >If you are having difficulty applying the patch then you could download > >the already-patched version from > >ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/pub/user-supported/asun/... > >...netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2.tar.gz > > Ooops, I wasn't being very clear; the asun patch applied OK. It was the > afpd-macos8.diff patch from the netatalk home pages that wasn't working. It > only patches two files, (file.c and fork.c, I think) maybe someone could > send those two files to me? > > Thanks, > > -------- > Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 > Internet Developer > > Test tube babies shouldn't throw stones. > -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 20 11:34:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA02516 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:34:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA02509 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:34:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA02791; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:34:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA02764 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:34:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from safir.spray.fi (safir.spray.fi [195.10.150.130]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id LAA02678 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:34:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5260 invoked from network); 20 Feb 1998 16:34:14 -0000 Received: from ws184.spray.fi (HELO NEPTUNE) (195.10.150.184) by safir.spray.fi with SMTP; 20 Feb 1998 16:34:14 -0000 To: Jonathan Peterson Cc: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Restarting daemons on Linux References: <3.0.1.32.19980219130058.00d80d30@dynamind-llc.com> <3.0.1.32.19980220114641.00cf2f9c@amxdigital.com> From: Osma Ahvenlampi Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.95) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 20 Feb 1998 18:34:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: Jonathan Peterson's message of "Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:46:41 +0000" Message-ID: Lines: 19 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Jonathan Peterson writes: > Bascially, If I stop all the various netatalk daemons (with killall, or > kill), and then try and start them again, I get the error: > Appletalk not up! Child exited with 1 With Linux kernel Appletalk support compiled as a module, you can stop the netatalk daemons, wait a couple of seconds, rmmod appletalk, and restart the daemons. Or, if you're using kerneld and wait for a few minutes, the module will be unloaded automatically. The kernel appletalk code can not be stopped and then restarted. However, when it is made into a module, it can be loaded and unloaded at will (when not in use, that is), and the unloading process will also clean up all the reentrancy problems. As far as appletalk is concerned, the machine has been rebooted. -- EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY. Osma Ahvenlampi From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 20 11:48:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA04093 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:48:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA04086 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:48:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA19312; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:50:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA19306 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:49:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [198.7.0.33]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA19291 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:49:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from elf (dfoster.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.216]) by mail2.panix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/PanixM1.3) with SMTP id LAA24921 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:48:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199802201648.LAA24921@mail2.panix.com> X-Sender: dfoster@popserver.panix.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Demo Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:31:20 -0500 To: Netatalk list From: David Foster Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Restarting daemons on Linux In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.19980220114641.00cf2f9c@amxdigital.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 07:17 AM 2/20/98 , Vivek wrote: >On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > >IIRC, if you compile the DDP stuff as a module, then you can >kill the daemons, rmmod the ddp stuff, insmod it again, and restart the >daemons. [I've never actually done this myself, but I'm told it works]. I do this all the time, works great. I've got /sbin/rmmod appletalk in my init.d script, so it works correctly with the runlevel stuff as well. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 20 13:16:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA08828 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:16:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA08824 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:16:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA04700; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:16:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA04678 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:16:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.sacbee.com (mail.sacbee.com [204.86.242.27]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA04645 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:16:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from exchange1.sacbee.com (exchange1.sacbee.com [128.103.5.210]) by mail.sacbee.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05232 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:19:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by exchange1.sacbee.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id <1WB6ZCDG>; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:12:17 -0800 Message-ID: <844029E80153D111A10C00A0C92A1ECA015B95@exchange1.sacbee.com> From: Marc Matteo To: Netatalk list Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] Restarting daemons on Linux Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:12:15 -0800 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Bascially, If I stop all the various netatalk daemons (with killall, or >kill), and then try and start them again, I get the error: >Appletalk not up! Child exited with 1 The AppleTalk support in the earlier 2.0 kernels wouldn't quit right. I think this was fixed in 2.0.32. Make sure you compile netatalk with the 2.0.32 kernel headers (or there is a patch for the pre 2.0.32 atalk headers). Once that's done it'll quit just fine. Marc From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 20 15:16:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA13725 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:16:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA13720 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:16:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA29051; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:16:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA29047 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:16:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from oberon.math.ukans.edu (oberon.math.ukans.edu [129.237.128.5]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA29039 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:16:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from stumpy.math.ukans.edu (stumpy [129.237.128.2]) by oberon.math.ukans.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA00319 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:35:40 -0600 (CST) Received: (from buller@localhost) by stumpy.math.ukans.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA00924; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:35:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:35:40 -0600 (CST) From: Tim Buller X-Sender: buller@stumpy Reply-To: Tim Buller To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Connection to DeskJet not being closed... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello- I'm making progress in getting a Solaris host to print to a LocalTalk connected HP DeskJet 870Cxi, but I have run up against a problem I can't figure out. For some reason, after a document has printed successfully, the connection to the printer is not getting closed. An example session follows--- Before I send anything to the printer, I see: $ /usr/local/atalk/bin/papstatus -p "DeskJet 870C in 405B:DeskWriter@Math" status:idle;source:AppleTalk revision 20.7-00115;extStatus:0400030000 ^^^^^^^^^^^ Then I print the file: $ gs -q \ -dNOPAUSE \ -sDEVICE=cdj550 \ -sOutputFile='|/usr/local/atalk/bin/pap -p \ "DeskJet 870C in 405B:DeskWriter@Math"' \ /usr/local/share/ghostscript/5.10/examples/colorcir.ps \ -c quit And then the printer stays busy until it is powered off and back on: $ /usr/local/atalk/bin/papstatus -p "DeskJet 870C in 405B:DeskWriter@Math" status:busy;source:AppleTalk revision 20.7-00114;extStatus:0480030000 ^^^^^^^^^^^ I get the same results if I print via a queue instead of on the command line; lpq reports "dj870 is ready and printing" long after the document has finished printing. The comm light on the printer is not active after the doc is printed. Any Ideas? I'm using stock 1.4b2 on a Solaris 2.5.1 host. TIA, Tim ==== Tim Buller buller@math.ukans.edu Systems Specialist Snow Hall 643, (785) 864-7311 Department of Mathematics University of Kansas, Lawrence, KS 66045 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 20 15:26:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA14248 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:26:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA14232 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:26:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA13877 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:19:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA10420; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:19:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA10405 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:19:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA05999 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:06:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA29746; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:06:02 GMT Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:06:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Jonathan Peterson cc: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Restarting daemons on Linux In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980220114641.00cf2f9c@amxdigital.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Three solutions: 1: upgrade to kernel 2.0.33 which allows Appletalk interfaces to be deleted 2: use appletalk as a module, and rmmod/insmod appletalk. 3: ifconfig down, ifconfig up each interface On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > I looked into this a while ago and I got the impression that it was a well > known problem with no solution. > > Bascially, If I stop all the various netatalk daemons (with killall, or > kill), and then try and start them again, I get the error: > Appletalk not up! Child exited with 1 > > I have to reboot the box to restart the daemons. Is there a known solution > to this? > > I have Linux 2.0.27 and Netatalk-1.4b2asun18. -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 20 15:37:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA15313 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:37:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA15262 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:37:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA06668; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:38:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA06665 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:38:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from iglou.com (iglou1.iglou.com [192.107.41.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id PAA06659 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:38:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from gateway.cre8tivegroup.com [204.255.227.111] by iglou.com with esmtp (8.7.3/8.6.12) id 0y5zCI-0006xC-00; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:37:26 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 15:37:24 -0500 (EST) Organization: The Creative Group From: Patrick Gardella To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] aarp: duplicate AT address!! Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello all. Finally got an ethernet card capable of multicast, so I am back in the Netatalk game. I'm running netatalk-1.4b2 on FreeBSD 2.2.5. Two questions, however: 1) I occasionally get a "aarp: duplicate AT address!! 0:e0:29:17:51:b6" error" (the address changes between this one and 0:0:f4:af:3:b4) as well as "aarpprobe why did this happen?!" (The MAC addresses correspond to the two ethernet cards) Why did this happen? :) Is this because I have 2 ethernet cards, with the second one being the one that doesn't do multicasting? (I only have the working one in etc/atalk.conf.) If so, I can yank it. Also, would using asun's patched version fix this? 2) The above might be related to this one. I can mount the Un*x filesystem on my Macs and see it all, but only some of them get the right icons. I'm using Steve Johnson's big type/creator list. For example, .htm files show the correct icon, while the .html files are the generic icon even though they have the same entry in AppleVolumes.default (TEXT MOSS). The MacOS 8 patch from the web site was installed, but this "problem" appears on either 7.5.5 or 8.1 or 8.0. Does netatalk have to be restarted before mods to the AppleVoulmes files show up? Neither of these questions were answered in the FAQ or mailing list archives. Patrick Gardella From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 20 16:47:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA18582 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:47:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA18577 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:47:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA05531; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:49:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA05516 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:49:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from pat.uio.no (pat.uio.no [129.240.130.16]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id QAA05490 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:49:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from gilgamesj.uio.no (actually gilgamesj.uio.no [129.240.222.66]) by pat.uio.no with SMTP (PP); Fri, 20 Feb 1998 22:47:21 +0100 Received: from math.uio.no (eris.uio.no [129.240.222.69]) by gilgamesj.uio.no ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 22:47:18 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199802202147.WAA24848@gilgamesj.uio.no> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0 12/22/97 To: Jonathan Peterson cc: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Restarting daemons on Linux In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:46:41 GMT." <3.0.1.32.19980220114641.00cf2f9c@amxdigital.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 22:47:17 +0100 From: Nicolai Langfeldt Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Jonathan Peterson tastet: > I looked into this a while ago and I got the impression that it was a well > known problem with no solution. > > Bascially, If I stop all the various netatalk daemons (with killall, or > kill), and then try and start them again, I get the error: > Appletalk not up! Child exited with 1 ... I have found that with this stop section in my SysV style atalk rc script: stop) print -n 'Killing appletalk daemons: ' rm -f /var/lock/subsys/atalk for p in atalkd afpd; do # papd timelord print -n "$p " killall $p 2>/dev/null sleep 1 done print sleep 2 print Removing appletalk kernel module rmmod appletalk and running the stop procedure *twice* appletalk will be dead afterwards and can be restarted. It is only works when appletalk is a module. Nicolai From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 20 16:58:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA19320 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:58:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA19306 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:57:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA19008 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA09019; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:51:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA09014 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:51:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.ufl.edu (sp04.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.175.134]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA09004 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:51:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from pbc.circa.ufl.edu (pbc.circa.ufl.edu [128.227.8.170]) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/1.5.1) with SMTP id JAA82158; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 09:41:51 -0500 From: "Leo Wierzbowski" To: "Mark Donnelly" Cc: "Netatalk list" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk ip vs atalk Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 09:42:13 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd3e0d$bb267a80$aa08e380@pbc.circa.ufl.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Holding down the option key while double-clicking the server in the chooser did the trick. Now I see a big difference between appleshare over tcp/ip and appleshare over ethertalk (and the mac netware client): Results of timed reading and writing a 46 MB folder containing 397 files, using the same server hardware with my office PowerMac 8500/120: IP - write 1:44 - read 1:40 - Linux (Red Hat 5.0) AT - write 3:37 - read 2:09 - Linux IPX - write 4:11 - read 3:05 - Netware 4.11 Sincerely, Leo Wierzbowski http://grove.ufl.edu/~leo/ Valentine's Day: http://grove.ufl.edu/~leo/val.html "The University of Florida does not endorse or disendorse the content of this document. Everything is the author's private opinion." -----Original Message----- From: Mark Donnelly To: Leo Wierzbowski Cc: Netatalk list Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk ip vs atalk >Are you sure you are, in fact, connecting via Appletalk rather than >Appletalk/IP? By default, the client will probe for an Appletalk/IP >connection on the host machine and use it if available. I think you can >hold down option or something in the chooser to enforce >Appletalk/Ethertalk... > >Hope this helps, >--Mark > "I think so Brain, but if they called them sad meals, then nobody > would buy them." > --Pinky > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 20 17:12:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA20525 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 17:12:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA20519 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 17:12:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA18649; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 17:12:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA18637 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 17:12:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from rice.farm.niu.edu (rice.farm.niu.edu [131.156.99.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA18623 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 17:12:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from [131.156.7.61] (moe.acs.niu.edu [131.156.7.61]) by rice.farm.niu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23955 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:12:37 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: z954043@rice.farm.niu.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199802202147.WAA24848@gilgamesj.uio.no> References: Your message of "Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:46:41 GMT." <3.0.1.32.19980220114641.00cf2f9c@amxdigital.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 16:12:29 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Brian Bergstrand Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Restarting daemons on Linux Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Jonathan Peterson tastet: >> I looked into this a while ago and I got the impression that it was a well >> known problem with no solution. >> >> Bascially, If I stop all the various netatalk daemons (with killall, or >> kill), and then try and start them again, I get the error: >> Appletalk not up! Child exited with 1 >... > >I have found that with this stop section in my SysV style atalk rc script: > [snip rc] >and running the stop procedure *twice* appletalk will be dead afterwards >and can be restarted. It is only works when appletalk is a module. > >Nicolai There seems to be this consensus that having atalk in the kernel is a bad thing, not true. If people would update to the latest kernel 2.0.33 (or .32), recompile with the new kernel headers, they can stop and start atalk to their hearts content. On my machine, the atalk daemon started with a pid of around 80, it now has one in the 18,000's and is running fine. (I have quit and restarted the server at least 5 times with never an error.) Config: Slak 3.4, kernel 2.0.33 w/atalk in kernel 32MB RAM netatalk 1.4b2+asun18.2 Brian Brian Bergstrand Network Specialist - ACS Northern Illinois University 815-753-8547 bbergstrand@niu.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Feb 21 17:21:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA05635 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 17:21:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA05621 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 17:21:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA05052 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 16:11:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA01151; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 16:11:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA01149 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 16:11:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from school.cs.indiana.edu (school.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.252.119]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA01145 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 16:11:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (brbothwe@localhost) by school.cs.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/IUCS_2.16) with SMTP id QAA10218 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 16:11:47 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: school.cs.indiana.edu: brbothwe owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 16:11:47 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Eric Bothwell To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] printing problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu We have a HP LaserJet 6MP hooked up to a WinNT box, that is being served to our Mac users via Netatalk and SAMBA. A few users have noticed that their print jobs are all being printed about 1/8 to 1/4 of an inch too high on the page. I did some testing and this occurs from all of the Mac applications I tried (MS-Word, Adobe Illustrator & PhotoShop). Print jobs from any of the WinNT machines work fine (no alignment problems). Also, the fonts used in the Mac documents are not the same as the ones being printed. If the files are being sent as raw PostScript it shouldn't matter what fonts are used right? (I admit relative ignorance when it comes to PostScript and printer stuff!) I got the HP 6MP PPD file of the install disk, and installed it as my .ppd file for Netatalk as well as on each Mac (in Extensions/Printer Descriptions). When the printer is queried from a Mac, it shows up correctly as a HP 6MP, and everything else seems in order. Could this be a MacOS 8.0 problem? Or perhaps a SAMBA problem (if so, I will seek help from the SAMBA listserv) Thanks! -Brian We are running Netatalk 1.4b under Linux 2.0.32 (Redhat 5.0) ------------------------------------------------------ | Brian Bothwell: http://php.indiana.edu/~brbothwe | | CS Masters student | | System Admin and Webmaster for | | Center for Excellence in Education/Wisdom Tools | ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Feb 21 21:31:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA10893 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 21:31:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA10889 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 21:30:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA19641; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 21:30:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA19639 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 21:30:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from winware.windowware.com (winware.windowware.com [206.63.11.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id VAA19590 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 21:30:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.0.1.9] by winware.windowware.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0y6RAL-0007HpC; Sat, 21 Feb 98 18:29 PST Message-Id: Subject: [netatalk-admins] Slow write performance on FreeBSD 2.2.5, 1.4b2 Date: Sat, 21 Feb 98 18:23:37 -0800 x-sender: garyt@mail.windowware.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: Gary Teter To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm having troubles with my installation of netatalk-1.4b2 on FreeBSD 2.2.5: Read performance from the server is great, but write performance is really, really lousy. The client is a PowerMac 604e/200 clone, 10baseT network. (Actually on a large file it's great for the first 1.8MB or so, then it seems to pause for big chunks of time.) I've installed the FreeBSD 2.2.5 netatalk patch that fixed the broken Appletalk support in the kernel. Someone suggested changing the definition of ddp_recvspace in sys/netatalk/ddp_usrreq.c to a higher value, so I changed it to 50 * 600. Any suggestions would be >greatly< appreciated! PS: I have to admit, I'm coming at this from the Mac side of things, so I'm not as familiar with Unix conventions as I'd like to be. (But I suppose that's probably typical of people who need netatalk...) PPS: I never could get the netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 set of patches to work right, mainly because I can't quite figure out how to install the tcp wrapper stuff properly (I think). -- Gary Teter, Landless Peasant Bulldog Beach Interactive http://www.bulldogbeach.com From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 22 02:44:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id CAA22383 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 02:44:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id CAA22379 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 02:44:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id CAA19586; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 02:44:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id CAA19584 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 02:44:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from goe.net (stud3.stud.uni-goettingen.de [134.76.175.201]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id CAA19578 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 02:43:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.113] (kol.stud.uni-goettingen.de [134.76.63.209]) by goe.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27109 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 08:44:27 +0100 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 08:44:27 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Nico Lumma Subject: [netatalk-admins] login-procedure Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I successfully installed netatalk 1.4b2 a couple days ago and I really like it. There's still one thing I don't like, but I don't know how to change it, or whether it is possibly to change at all... I need to mount several accounts from one mac, i.e. my own account, the html-directory and the ftp-directory, all with full read and write permissions. But once I am in the chooser,I can only select one login, not several different ones... Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Nico "Even though Mac Users may be only 10% of the market, always remember that we are the top 10%" - Douglas Adams From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 22 10:13:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA12161 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 10:13:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA12151 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 10:13:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA17515; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 10:13:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA17513 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 10:13:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from hermes.nerosworld.com ([205.218.212.67] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id KAA17502 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 10:13:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from deperry@localhost) by hermes.nerosworld.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA23246; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 08:47:35 GMT Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 08:47:35 +0000 () From: David Perry To: Nico Lumma cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] login-procedure In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Nico, You can only login as one user at a time. However if you login in as nico you could edit the ~/.AppleVolumes file to allow ~/ /htdocs /ftp to show up in your chooser. You might also need to make sure that 'nico' belongs to the groups that have read / write access to these last two. Dave Perry On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, Nico Lumma wrote: > Hi, > > I successfully installed netatalk 1.4b2 a couple days ago and I really like > it. There's still one thing I don't like, but I don't know how to change > it, or whether it is possibly to change at all... > > I need to mount several accounts from one mac, i.e. my own account, the > html-directory and the ftp-directory, all with full read and write > permissions. > But once I am in the chooser,I can only select one login, not several > different ones... > > Any ideas? > > Thanks in advance, > > Nico > > "Even though Mac Users may be only 10% of the market, always remember that > we are the top 10%" - Douglas Adams > > From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 22 10:30:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA12675 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 10:30:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA12671 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 10:30:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA18986; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 10:30:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA18984 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 10:30:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mermaid.shore.net (mermaid.shore.net [207.244.124.6]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id KAA18975 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 10:30:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from jik.shore.net [206.243.167.15] by mermaid.shore.net with esmtp (Exim) id 0y6dMN-0001B7-00; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 10:30:31 -0500 Received: (from jik@localhost) by jik.shore.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA31816; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 10:29:53 -0500 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 10:29:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199802221529.KAA31816@jik.shore.net> From: "Jonathan I. Kamens" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] When is the "announce" list going to be set up? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu What seems like a very long time ago, an announcement was sent to this list, claiming that a list for netatalk announcements only would soon be created, and that it would be announced on this list when it was available. I have seen no such announcement; did I miss it? I am interested in announcements about new netatalk releases, discoveries of major bugs, etc., but I really don't have the time anymore for the day-to-day traffic on this list. If the announcement-only list hasn't yet been set up, does anybody have any idea when it *will* be set up? jik From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 22 15:40:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA17420 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 15:40:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA17415 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 15:40:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA17367; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 15:39:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA17364 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 15:39:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA17356 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 15:39:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199802222039.PAA17356@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: netatalk@umich.edu To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] When is the "announce" list going to be set up? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 22 Feb 1998 10:29:53 EST." <199802221529.KAA31816@jik.shore.net> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 15:39:46 -0500 X-Sender: epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: "Jonathan I. Kamens" > What seems like a very long time ago, an announcement was sent to this > list, claiming that a list for netatalk announcements only would soon > be created, and that it would be announced on this list when it was > available. I have seen no such announcement; did I miss it? > I am interested in announcements about new netatalk releases, > discoveries of major bugs, etc., but I really don't have the time > anymore for the day-to-day traffic on this list. Information regarding the netatalk-release@umich.edu list is available at: http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk/mailing.html it's majordomo, and operates the same as this list: 'echo unsubscribe' | mail netatalk-admins-request@umich.edu 'echo subscribe' | mail netatalk-release-request@umich.edu Apologies if no formal announcement was ever made to this list regarding the release list. EV AN From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Feb 22 16:47:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA19310 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 16:47:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA19306 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 16:46:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA09037; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 16:46:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA09033 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 16:46:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from johngalt.wwwebservers.com (johngalt.wwwebservers.com [208.21.240.14]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA09028 for ; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 16:46:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from slacker.wwwebservers.com (jon@slacker.wwwebservers.com [208.21.243.83]) by johngalt.wwwebservers.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA20089; Sun, 22 Feb 1998 15:47:39 -0600 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 15:47:27 -0600 (CST) From: Jon Torrez To: Nico Lumma cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] login-procedure In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have had the same problem, the one key note when I go back and read the reports is this: mac client: system 7.6.xx could not mount multiple netatalk drives yet same mac client: system 8.0 could mount up to 254 <-- yes we did! even thought we mounted 254 different exported drives the performance was sluggish and crappy, but hey, 254 drives!! who the hell needs that many! On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, Nico Lumma wrote: Hi, I successfully installed netatalk 1.4b2 a couple days ago and I really like it. There's still one thing I don't like, but I don't know how to change it, or whether it is possibly to change at all... I need to mount several accounts from one mac, i.e. my own account, the html-directory and the ftp-directory, all with full read and write permissions. But once I am in the chooser,I can only select one login, not several different ones... Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Nico "Even though Mac Users may be only 10% of the market, always remember that we are the top 10%" - Douglas Adams +-------- | Jon Torrez | Systems Administrator - WWWebServers, Inc. | http://www.wwwebservers.com / jon@wwwebservers.com +---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 23 13:58:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA05663 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:58:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA05653 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:57:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA06324; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:57:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA06316 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:57:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from iglou.com (iglou2.iglou.com [192.107.41.17]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id NAA06309 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:57:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from gateway.cre8tivegroup.com [204.255.227.118] by iglou.com with esmtp (8.7.3/8.6.12) id 0y734b-0002ym-00; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:57:54 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:57:50 -0500 (EST) Organization: The Creative Group From: Patrick Gardella To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] aarp: duplicate AT address!! Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello all. Finally got an ethernet card capable of multicast, so I am back in the Netatalk game. I'm running netatalk-1.4b2 on FreeBSD 2.2.5. Two questions, however: 1) I occasionally get a "aarp: duplicate AT address!! 0:e0:29:17:51:b6" error" (the address changes between this one and 0:0:f4:af:3:b4) as well as "aarpprobe why did this happen?!" (The MAC addresses correspond to the two ethernet cards) Why did this happen? :) Is this because I have 2 ethernet cards, with the second one being the one that doesn't do multicasting? (I only have the working one in etc/atalk.conf.) If so, I can yank it. Also, would using asun's patched version fix this? 2) The above might be related to this one. I can mount the Un*x filesystem on my Macs and see it all, but only some of them get the right icons. I'm using Steve Johnson's big type/creator list. For example, .htm files show the correct icon, while the .html files are the generic icon even though they have the same entry in AppleVolumes.default (TEXT MOSS). The MacOS 8 patch from the web site was installed, but this "problem" appears on either 7.5.5 or 8.1 or 8.0. Does netatalk have to be restarted before mods to the AppleVoulmes files show up? Neither of these questions were answered in the FAQ or mailing list archives. Patrick Gardella From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 23 14:31:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA07712 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 14:31:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA07705 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 14:31:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA14372; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 14:31:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA14364 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 14:31:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from eug4ja.lane.edu (eug4ja.lane.edu [158.165.5.23]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA14349 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 14:31:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from 4j.lane.edu by 4j.lane.edu (PMDF V5.1-9 #27890) id <01ITX1PCE3IY8WW6KV@4j.lane.edu> for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 11:30:30 PST Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 11:30:30 -0800 (PST) From: cupples_s@4j.lane.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] time out problme To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am running a FreeBSD box on a 486 120 w/ a DEC isa ether net card, when I have the box hooked up (and configed) at the school it works great. However when I take it home atalkd runs fine I can see other devices on the network and tell net form them to the box. But every time I try to regedter a device on the network it gives me a time out error. I am stumped. I have gone as far as to reformat and reinstall and it still dosen't work. If someone has any great advice PLEASE let me know. Thanks Shawn Cupples South Eugene High School (541) 687-3122 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 23 15:10:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA10081 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:10:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA10070 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:10:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA04953; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:10:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA04937 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:10:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from oz.plymouth.edu (oz.plymouth.edu [158.136.1.100]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA04900 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:10:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.plymouth.edu (finite.plymouth.edu [158.136.75.171]) by oz.plymouth.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA30503; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:10:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34F1D7B1.A9EA818C@mail.plymouth.edu> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:10:41 -0500 From: Casey Bisson Organization: Information Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cupples_s@4j.lane.edu CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] time out problme References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I may have had a similar problem sometime ago. We were using an old 486 DX4100 with a DEC EtherWorks 10bT adapter. When we fired netatlk up while on a network with a PowerBook, a hub, and the netatlk server, it ran fine. But when we tried to integrate it with the rest of the network, it was blind to the world. That is, IP services worked fine, but it would not register itself as an AFP server. We had our network engineer working on the problem, sniffing packets, and pulling his hair out untill he turned around and said it was a systems problem. We tried all sorts of solutions: we started with the FreeBSD pkg, we downloaded many different sources and compiled those. Reformat, reinstall. We tried asun's patched sources, and IP only AFP services worked fine. We tried all this repeatedly, and at the time, we kept good notes about what we tried, and how miserably it failed. We eventually gave up and ordered a fairlyy hopped up pentium machine to run WinNT and use Microsoft's appleshare server for NT. Just so that we could say we didn't give up without a fight, we intalled FreeBSD and the netatalk pkg on the new machine. It ran beautifully, and still does. We've upgraded to the asun patched version, and it runs well. What can I say that will help you? Not much. The fact is, I didn't understand the problem and thus cannot fathom the solution. I suppose that's why I believe in luck and other inexplicable things. Mainly, we blame the problems on the ethenet card. We've had problems with EtherWorks cards in the past, and nobody from DEC was around to defend the card. For the record, we are now running FreeBSD 2.2.5 on a Dell Optiplex 166MHz Pentium with 80MB of RAM and a 3com 10/100 card. cupples_s@4j.lane.edu wrote: > I am running a FreeBSD box on a 486 120 w/ a DEC isa ether net card, when > I have the box hooked up (and configed) at the school it works great. > However when I take it home atalkd runs fine I can see other devices on > the network and tell net form them to the box. But every time I try to > regedter a device on the network it gives me a time out error. I am > stumped. I have gone as far as to reformat and reinstall and it still > dosen't work. If someone has any great advice PLEASE let me know. > > Thanks > Shawn Cupples > South Eugene High School > (541) 687-3122 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 23 16:45:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA15813 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:45:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA15807 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:45:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA15311; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:45:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA15305 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:45:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA15296 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:45:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA118611; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:47:49 -0800 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:47:48 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: Gary Teter cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Slow write performance on FreeBSD 2.2.5, 1.4b2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Gary Teter wrote: > I'm having troubles with my installation of netatalk-1.4b2 on FreeBSD > 2.2.5: > > Read performance from the server is great, but write performance is > really, really lousy. The client is a PowerMac 604e/200 clone, 10baseT > network. (Actually on a large file it's great for the first 1.8MB or so, > then it seems to pause for big chunks of time.) > > I've installed the FreeBSD 2.2.5 netatalk patch that fixed the broken > Appletalk support in the kernel. > > Someone suggested changing the definition of ddp_recvspace in > sys/netatalk/ddp_usrreq.c to a higher value, so I changed it to 50 * 600. Doh! That kills my favorite suggestion! > Any suggestions would be >greatly< appreciated! > > PS: I have to admit, I'm coming at this from the Mac side of things, so > I'm not as familiar with Unix conventions as I'd like to be. (But I > suppose that's probably typical of people who need netatalk...) > > PPS: I never could get the netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 set of patches to > work right, mainly because I can't quite figure out how to install the > tcp wrapper stuff properly (I think). Then just turn off the tcprapper support. :-) Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 23 16:59:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA16583 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:59:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA16578 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:59:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA16241; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:59:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA16218 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:59:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.nmc.siu.edu (orion.nmc.siu.edu [131.230.35.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA16174 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:59:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fleming@localhost) by orion.nmc.siu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.4) id PAA07664 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:58:55 -0600 From: "Paul M. Fleming" Message-Id: <199802232158.PAA07664@orion.nmc.siu.edu> Subject: [netatalk-admins] afp problem To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:58:54 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu First, I've been using Netatalk for several years and currently use it in a Multimedia development lab and it works GREAT. But, I have a minor problem. Every once in a while a Macintosh client will not be able to see any of the netatalk servers. If I restart the client it doesn't help, but if I restart the servers they reappear, also if I let the client sit for a few hours the netatalk servers reappear. Is this possibly related to a time-out problem in netatalk? Any suggestions. I'm using netatalk on the following configurations: Pentium Pro 200 Linux Kernel 2.0.32 Netatalk 1.4b2 w/ Umich patches 3com 905 100mb 486DX100 Linux kernel 2.0.32 Netatalk 1.4b2 w/ umich patches SMC EtherEZ 10mb Macintosh 8150 Mklinux DR2.6 (i think) Netatalk 1.3.3 (mklinux RPM) These machines all sit on a 100/10MB switch (all 1 vlan ) The only atalk error messages I get are atalk[xxx]:zip ingnoring gnireply atalk[xxx]: zip gnireply from 30350.12 (eth0 b2) From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 23 16:59:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA16665 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:59:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA16643 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:59:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA20401; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:59:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA20358 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA20341 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:59:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA118141; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 14:01:24 -0800 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 14:01:24 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: David Perry cc: Nico Lumma , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] login-procedure In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, David Perry wrote: > Nico, > > You can only login as one user at a time. However if you login in as nico > you could edit the ~/.AppleVolumes file to allow > ~/ > /htdocs > /ftp > > to show up in your chooser. You might also need to make sure that 'nico' > belongs to the groups that have read / write access to these last two. > > Dave Perry Another option, if you REALLY need the different logins (you need to create files with different owners on the UNIX machine), is to run multiple afpd servers. I think the asun patches permit this cleanly. Basically log into one server as "nico", another as html-source, etc. Though if you can do it as Dave suggested, with group permissions, etc., I'd suggest that. It's easier. > On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, Nico Lumma wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I successfully installed netatalk 1.4b2 a couple days ago and I really like > > it. There's still one thing I don't like, but I don't know how to change > > it, or whether it is possibly to change at all... > > > > I need to mount several accounts from one mac, i.e. my own account, the > > html-directory and the ftp-directory, all with full read and write > > permissions. > > But once I am in the chooser,I can only select one login, not several > > different ones... > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Nico Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 23 17:03:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA17166 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 17:03:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA17155 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 17:03:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA25733; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 17:03:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA25726 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 17:03:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.nmc.siu.edu (orion.nmc.siu.edu [131.230.35.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA25702 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 17:03:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fleming@localhost) by orion.nmc.siu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.4) id QAA08490 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:03:18 -0600 From: "Paul M. Fleming" Message-Id: <199802232203.QAA08490@orion.nmc.siu.edu> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Question about Mac Executables To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 16:03:18 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Bill Studenmund" at Feb 23, 98 01:47:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have a question about resource forks. In our lab we share out a public volume on which executable programs are not allowed. I would like to write a program ( and run it via cron) which scans the afp shared portions of the file system for macintosh applications (APPL file type) and deletes them. Any suggestions where to begin in the Netatalk source code. (I've started looking at the AppleDouble routines. Is this the right place are there easier ways?) Thanks in advance. Paul Fleming Unix Administrator New Media Center SIUC From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 23 20:21:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA24263 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:21:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from toby.han.de (quirk.hiss.org [192.109.225.43]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA24259 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:21:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from baghira.han.de (baghira.han.de [192.109.225.2]) by toby.han.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 02:15:56 +0100 (MEZ) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baghira.han.de (8.8.7-s-4/08-02-98/16:27:02/tina) with UUCP id ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 02:03:46 +0100 Received: (from micha@localhost) by dolbyco.han.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA06180; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 01:50:46 +0100 From: Michael Zuelsdorff Message-Id: <199802240050.BAA06180@dolbyco.han.de> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Connection to DeskJet not being closed... In-Reply-To: from Tim Buller at "Feb 20, 98 01:35:40 pm" To: buller@math.ukans.edu Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 01:50:44 +0100 (MET) Cc: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL37 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Guten Abend, you wrote: > I'm making progress in getting a Solaris host to print to a > LocalTalk connected HP DeskJet 870Cxi, but I have run up against a problem > I can't figure out. For some reason, after a document has printed > successfully, the connection to the printer is not getting closed. > > Then I print the file: > > $ gs -q \ > -dNOPAUSE \ > -sDEVICE=cdj550 \ > -sOutputFile='|/usr/local/atalk/bin/pap -p \ > "DeskJet 870C in 405B:DeskWriter@Math"' \ > /usr/local/share/ghostscript/5.10/examples/colorcir.ps \ > -c quit > > And then the printer stays busy until it is powered off and back on: Try piping the job to: pap -E -p "....", this works for my standard Deskwriter. -E ?!? No, it's not in the man-page. Have a look at pap.c - there are even more switches (and crazy defines :-). Bye. _~_ (?) (o o)' -- V -^ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . N . (!) Michael Zuelsdorff \ i / I don't like LINUX - ' ^ ^ Gruene Riede 5 '. \u/ .' I love it (o o) 31311 Dollbergen '>X<' / v \ +49 517-792-2113 --- " L " --------------------------------//8'8\\------ micha@dolbyco.han.de -- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Feb 23 23:31:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id XAA28319 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 23:31:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA28315 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 23:31:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id XAA10214; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 23:31:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id XAA10211 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 23:31:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from server1.lion-lamb.org (lttlfld.vip.best.com [206.86.16.122]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA10193 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 23:31:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from lion-lamb.org (server2.lion-lamb.org [192.168.1.20]) by server1.lion-lamb.org (8.8.5/8.6.10) with ESMTP id UAA09961 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 20:37:27 GMT Message-ID: <34F1DCAA.DED9132C@lion-lamb.org> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 12:31:39 -0800 From: Doug Littlefield X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04j2 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.1.86 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Printing Config Problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Trying to print to appletalk LaserWriter on ethernet via Linux box. Read All the docs, how tos I can find. Lurked on this for months, searched the archives. It's time to yell for help. (I saw the articles on how great the Linux community is on "customer support") -:) ============================================ Running Redhat 4.2, netatalk 1.4b2 rpm I can get aecho and can print directly via pap a postscript test.ps file. Printing goes to the spool directly just fine. Can't get any thing out of the printer. lpc, status says it's printing. =========================================== .paprc #PRINTTOOL3## REMOTE POSTSCRIPT 600x600 letter {} PostScript Default {} lp0|LaserWriter Pro 630|LaserWriter:\ :pr=lp0:\ ============================================== # /etc/printcap (The first printer, lp, the laserjet works fine) ##PRINTTOOL3## LOCAL laserjet 300x300 letter {} LaserJet Default 1 lp:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ :mx#0:\ :sh:\ :pl:\ :60:\ :sf:\ :ff=:\ :lp=/dev/lp1:\ :if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/filter: ##PRINTTOOL3## REMOTE POSTSCRIPT 600x600 letter {} PostScript Default {} lp0|"LaserWriter Pro 630"|LaserWriter:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp0:\ :lp0=/var/spool/lpd/lp0/dev/null:\ :pl#63:\ :pw#85:\ :mx#0:\ :sh:\ :sf:\ :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :if=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filters/ifpap:\ :of=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filters/ofpap: ===================================== papd.conf (I tried this with just first 2 lines, but papd didn't see it ) ##PRINTTOOL3## REMOTE POSTSCRIPT 600x600 letter {} PostScript Default {} lp0|"LaserWriter Pro 630"|LaserWriter:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp0:\ :lp0=/var/spool/lpd/lp0/dev/null:\ :pl#63:\ :pw#85:\ :mx#0:\ :sh:\ :sf:\ :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :if=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filters/ifpap:\ :of=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filters/ofpap: ====================================== /var/log/lpd-errs lp0:LaserWriter@*: NBP Lookup failed lp0:LaserWriter@*: NBP Lookup failed lp0:LaserWriter@*: NBP Lookup failed ========================================= Got this automatic email Subject: printer job Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:18:08 -0800 From: bin To: operator@server1.cgprint.com Your printer job (Mac Job) was not unlinked: permission denied ============================== Thanks for the help. Doug Littlefield From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 24 00:03:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id AAA00618 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:03:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA00575 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:03:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id AAA06670; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:03:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id AAA06667 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:03:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (colossus.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.202]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA06653 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:03:20 -0500 (EST) From: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za Received: from localhost (jon@localhost) by colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA03432; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 07:04:39 +0200 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 07:04:39 +0200 (SAT) To: "Paul M. Fleming" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Question about Mac Executables In-Reply-To: <199802232203.QAA08490@orion.nmc.siu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu recursively scan the folders with find, and use the -exec rm option. also bear in mind that desk accessories and control panels count as well ('dfil' and 'cdev'). ____________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick jon@cs.wits.ac.za, +27 11 716-3783 Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand Web site, ftp site and listserv all available at: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/ On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Paul M. Fleming wrote: > I have a question about resource forks. In our lab we share out a public > volume on which executable programs are not allowed. I would like to write > a program ( and run it via cron) which scans the afp shared portions of the > file system for macintosh applications (APPL file type) and deletes them. > Any suggestions where to begin in the Netatalk source code. (I've started > looking at the AppleDouble routines. Is this the right place are there > easier ways?) > > Thanks in advance. > > Paul Fleming > Unix Administrator > New Media Center > SIUC > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 24 00:24:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id AAA05729 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:24:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA05685 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:24:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id AAA20091; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:24:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id AAA20089 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:24:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA20079 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:24:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA10165; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:23:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from cec.mtu.edu (root@cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.196]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA08503; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:23:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from critter.cec.mtu.edu (critter.cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.204]) by cec.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/mtumailer-1.2) with SMTP id AAA29129; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:23:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:24:46 -0500 (EST) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@critter.cec.mtu.edu To: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za cc: "Paul M. Fleming" , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Question about Mac Executables In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 24 Feb 1998 jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za wrote: > recursively scan the folders with find, and use the -exec rm option. also > bear in mind that desk accessories and control panels count as well > ('dfil' and 'cdev'). Even better, and slightly lesser known is to use xargs. % find . -name evil.executables -print | xargs rm xargs takes a list of strings as input, breaks up the list into big pieces and feeds it to the command you specify. That way you don't waste time starting up 'rm' for every single file. Your unix tip o' the day. - edan From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 24 00:49:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id AAA09683 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:49:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA09676 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:48:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id AAA14455; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:48:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id AAA14452 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:48:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.nmc.siu.edu (orion.nmc.siu.edu [131.230.35.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA14448 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fleming@localhost) by orion.nmc.siu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.4) id XAA22874; Mon, 23 Feb 1998 23:48:51 -0600 From: "Paul M. Fleming" Message-Id: <199802240548.XAA22874@orion.nmc.siu.edu> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Question about Mac Executables To: fleming@orion.nmc.siu.edu (Paul M. Fleming) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 23:48:51 -0600 (CST) Cc: fleming@nmc.siu.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: from "jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za" at Feb 24, 98 07:04:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Netatalk doesn't mark binaries as executable in Unix. a find whould not check the AppleDouble file type or am I missing something.. Paul > > recursively scan the folders with find, and use the -exec rm option. also > bear in mind that desk accessories and control panels count as well > ('dfil' and 'cdev'). > > ____________________________________________________________ > John Ostrowick > jon@cs.wits.ac.za, +27 11 716-3783 > Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand > Web site, ftp site and listserv all available at: > http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/ > > > On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Paul M. Fleming wrote: > > > I have a question about resource forks. In our lab we share out a public > > volume on which executable programs are not allowed. I would like to write > > a program ( and run it via cron) which scans the afp shared portions of the > > file system for macintosh applications (APPL file type) and deletes them. > > Any suggestions where to begin in the Netatalk source code. (I've started > > looking at the AppleDouble routines. Is this the right place are there > > easier ways?) > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Paul Fleming > > Unix Administrator > > New Media Center > > SIUC > > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 24 01:01:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id BAA10767 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 01:01:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id BAA10746 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 01:01:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id AAA10478; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:58:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id AAA10473 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:58:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA10456; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:58:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199802240558.AAA10456@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Bill Studenmund cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Slow write performance on FreeBSD 2.2.5, 1.4b2 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:47:48 PST." Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 00:58:32 -0500 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Bill Studenmund > To: Gary Teter > On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Gary Teter wrote: > > Someone suggested changing the definition of ddp_recvspace in > > sys/netatalk/ddp_usrreq.c to a higher value, so I changed it to 50 * 600. > Doh! That kills my favorite suggestion! The normal value of ddp_recvspace, 10 * X, is enough for the eight packets you'll get back from an ATP transaction, plus a couple more for extra space. Each time this buffer is overflowed, there's a statistics block that gets updated, ddps_nosockspace, which your favorite BSD unix ought to return as output of netstat -s. Generally speaking, you should never see this... When your network performance is "really, really, slow", it's usually a bad network. AppleTalk tolerates a *very* low network error rate. In particular, write performance suffers because of the dual-ATP transactions used to "turn" the 8 packet response into a write. If you're getting, write, write, write, long ... pause ... write, write, etc, then it's almost certainly a bad network. The good news is that TCP is a non-sucking protocol, and can deal quite well with lossy networks. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 24 01:39:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id BAA12140 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 01:39:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA12136 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 01:39:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id BAA22344; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 01:39:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id BAA22338 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 01:39:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (colossus.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.202]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA22328 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 01:39:33 -0500 (EST) From: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za Received: from localhost (jon@localhost) by colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA04051; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 08:40:59 +0200 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 08:40:59 +0200 (SAT) To: "Paul M. Fleming" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Question about Mac Executables In-Reply-To: <199802240548.XAA22874@orion.nmc.siu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu maybe a grep for 'APPL' in the file. ____________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick jon@cs.wits.ac.za, +27 11 716-3783 Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand Web site, ftp site and listserv all available at: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/ On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Paul M. Fleming wrote: > Netatalk doesn't mark binaries as executable in Unix. a find whould not check > the AppleDouble file type or am I missing something.. > > Paul > > > > > > recursively scan the folders with find, and use the -exec rm option. also > > bear in mind that desk accessories and control panels count as well > > ('dfil' and 'cdev'). > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > John Ostrowick > > jon@cs.wits.ac.za, +27 11 716-3783 > > Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand > > Web site, ftp site and listserv all available at: > > http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/ > > > > > > On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Paul M. Fleming wrote: > > > > > I have a question about resource forks. In our lab we share out a public > > > volume on which executable programs are not allowed. I would like to write > > > a program ( and run it via cron) which scans the afp shared portions of the > > > file system for macintosh applications (APPL file type) and deletes them. > > > Any suggestions where to begin in the Netatalk source code. (I've started > > > looking at the AppleDouble routines. Is this the right place are there > > > easier ways?) > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Paul Fleming > > > Unix Administrator > > > New Media Center > > > SIUC > > > > > > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 24 05:03:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA16459 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 05:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA16455 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 05:03:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA14719; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 05:03:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA14717 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 05:03:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from Stud2.Stud.Uni-Goettingen.de (Stud2.Stud.Uni-Goettingen.de [134.76.27.1]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id FAA14709 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 05:02:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from Stud3.stud.uni-goettingen.de (134.76.175.201) by Stud2.Stud.Uni-Goettingen.de (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 11:02:59 +0100 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 11:03:43 +0100 (CET) From: Nico Lumma X-Sender: nico@Stud3.stud.uni-goettingen.de To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] routing? In-Reply-To: <199802232158.PAA07664@orion.nmc.siu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, thanks to numerous suggestions I was able to solve my first problem (multiple logins under different names...), now here's another problem: I want to access not only my server, but also any other netatalk server taht is behind that server and the firewall. We are using a private network and therefore ip-masquerading. How does that work? Do the apple-talk-packets get encapsulated by ip-packets and then travel through the net, or are they just "plain" apple-talk-packets, who can't get through routers and the like? I am living at a big German university campus and we are trying to connect our dorms to the net and want to share as much as possible between the different buildings across town. And since Samba makes it possible to access Windoze PCs on other networks, I want to do the same with appletalk... Thanks again, Nico -------- Nico Lumma nico@goe.net 0551-47417 0177-2924424 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 24 07:21:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA05482 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 07:21:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA05478 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 07:21:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA27453; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 07:21:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA27451 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 07:21:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from hermes.nerosworld.com ([205.218.212.67]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id HAA27446 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 07:21:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from deperry@localhost) by hermes.nerosworld.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id FAA28026; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 05:54:52 GMT Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 05:54:51 +0000 () From: David Perry To: Nico Lumma cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] routing? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Nico, How about AppleTalk IP. It should be easy to route that service across firewalls. I think someone mentioned the asun patches add that to netatalk. David Perry > > I want to access not only my server, but also any other netatalk server > taht is behind that server and the firewall. We are using a private > network and therefore ip-masquerading. > How does that work? Do the apple-talk-packets get encapsulated by > ip-packets and then travel through the net, or are they just "plain" > apple-talk-packets, who can't get through routers and the like? > > Thanks again, > > Nico > > -------- > Nico Lumma > nico@goe.net > 0551-47417 > 0177-2924424 > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 24 13:56:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA15390 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 13:56:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA15343 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 13:56:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA04643 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 06:43:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA28449; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 06:43:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA28447 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 06:43:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from tootingbec.powervue.com ([205.246.2.119]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA28436 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 06:43:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from tootingbec.powervue.com (peterg@tootingbec.powervue.com [192.168.2.38]) by tootingbec.powervue.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA02941; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 06:44:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 06:44:16 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Gutowski To: Doug Littlefield cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Printing Config Problem In-Reply-To: <34F1DCAA.DED9132C@lion-lamb.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Doug, Having recently worked a number of bugs with a similar setup (RH 5.0/Pentium/Laserwriter via Ethernet & HPDeskJet 870 attached to lp1) Here's my voodoo: On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Doug Littlefield wrote: > Trying to print to appletalk LaserWriter on ethernet via Linux box. Read > All the docs, how tos I can > find. Lurked on this for months, searched the archives. > Printing goes to the spool directly just fine. > Can't get any thing out of the printer. > lpc, status says it's printing. > > =========================================== > > .paprc > > #PRINTTOOL3## REMOTE POSTSCRIPT 600x600 letter {} PostScript Default {} > lp0|LaserWriter Pro 630|LaserWriter:\ > :pr=lp0:\ > observation: my .paprc file only has the appletalk name of the printer in its spool folder (this for my Laserwriter, of course the DeskJet doesn't have a paprc file 'cause it prints via parallel port) > ============================================== > > > # /etc/printcap > > (The first printer, lp, the laserjet works fine) > > ##PRINTTOOL3## LOCAL laserjet 300x300 letter {} LaserJet Default 1 > lp:\ > :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ > :mx#0:\ > :sh:\ > :pl:\ > :60:\ > :sf:\ > :ff=:\ > :lp=/dev/lp1:\ > :if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/filter: > > > ##PRINTTOOL3## REMOTE POSTSCRIPT 600x600 letter {} PostScript Default {} > > lp0|"LaserWriter Pro 630"|LaserWriter:\ > :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp0:\ > :lp0=/var/spool/lpd/lp0/dev/null:\ > :pl#63:\ > :pw#85:\ > :mx#0:\ > :sh:\ > :sf:\ > :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > :if=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filters/ifpap:\ > :of=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filters/ofpap: > > ===================================== > papd.conf > > (I tried this with just first 2 lines, but papd didn't see it ) > > ##PRINTTOOL3## REMOTE POSTSCRIPT 600x600 letter {} PostScript Default {} > > lp0|"LaserWriter Pro 630"|LaserWriter:\ > :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp0:\ > :lp0=/var/spool/lpd/lp0/dev/null:\ > :pl#63:\ > :pw#85:\ > :mx#0:\ > :sh:\ > :sf:\ > :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ > :if=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filters/ifpap:\ > :of=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filters/ofpap: > > The man page for papd says that the contents of a papd.conf file should ONLY contain 3 entires: "pr", "op" and "pd". Yeah, it says it's "formatted" like a printcap file, but that's where it ends. Here's a portion of my papd.conf: DeskJet 870 Faster Text:\ :pr=lp:op=daemon:\ :pd=/usr/local/lib/ppd/cdj850.ppd: > ====================================== > > /var/log/lpd-errs > > > lp0:LaserWriter@*: NBP Lookup failed > lp0:LaserWriter@*: NBP Lookup failed > lp0:LaserWriter@*: NBP Lookup failed > > This is probably coming from your erroneous .paprc file: it's looking for a Laserwriter called lp0! > ========================================= > > Got this automatic email > > Subject: printer job > Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:18:08 -0800 > From: bin > To: operator@server1.cgprint.com > > > Your printer job (Mac Job) > was not unlinked: permission denied > > ============================== > > Thanks for the help. > > Doug Littlefield > Also, when logged in as a "normal" user (not root) I had trouble printing when I said "cat | lpr", until I change perms of lpr as follows: -r-sr-sr-x 1 root lp 15244 Oct 30 10:39 /usr/bin/lpr From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 24 13:56:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA15404 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 13:56:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA15377 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 13:56:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA10956 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 11:44:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA13308; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 11:44:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA13299 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 11:44:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from wissahickon.eng.delgroup.com (mail.delgroup.com [198.135.110.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA13274 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 11:44:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from wissahickon.eng.delgroup.com ([10.88.8.3]) by wissahickon.eng.delgroup.com (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA09853 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 11:42:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 11:42:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan R. Wilner" X-Sender: jrw@wissahickon.eng.delgroup.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems Compiling Netatalk/asun on Solaris 2.5.1 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have had no trouble compiling regular Netatalk 1.4b2 (not asun) on Solaris 2.5.1 (gcc or cc), but the asun is crashing trying to build auth.c with DES support. It is reporting that there is an undefined symbol, DES_ENCRYPT . Has anyone else run into this problem? I have the latest libdes installed, so I can't figure this out. I would really like to have the DES support, as we run Kerberos 5, so the Mac Kerberos stuff doesn't seem to work. Speaking of that, has anyone gotten the Mac Kerberos UAMs to work with Kerberos 5? It seems like if the Kerberos 5 runs with Version 4 support, it should work. Unfortunately, I haven't ever really found any documentation on how to properly configure any of them. Thanks in advance, Jonathan Wilner Delaware Investment Advisers Philadelphia, PA jonathan.wilner@eng.delgroup.com From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 24 13:57:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA15597 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 13:57:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from oberon.math.ukans.edu (oberon.math.ukans.edu [129.237.128.5]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA15509 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 13:57:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from oin.math.ukans.edu (buller@oin [129.237.131.20]) by oberon.math.ukans.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA04335; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 12:57:24 -0600 (CST) Received: (from buller@localhost) by oin.math.ukans.edu (8.8.5/8.8.7) id MAA13952; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 12:56:34 -0600 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 12:56:34 -0600 (CST) From: Tim Buller X-Sender: buller@oin To: Michael Zuelsdorff cc: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Connection to DeskJet not being closed... In-Reply-To: <199802240050.BAA06180@dolbyco.han.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Michael Zuelsdorff wrote: > Tim wrote: > > I'm making progress in getting a Solaris host to print to a > > LocalTalk connected HP DeskJet 870Cxi, but I have run up against a problem > > I can't figure out. For some reason, after a document has printed > > successfully, the connection to the printer is not getting closed. > > > > Then I print the file: > > > > $ gs -q \ > > -dNOPAUSE \ > > -sDEVICE=cdj550 \ > > -sOutputFile='|/usr/local/atalk/bin/pap -p \ > > "DeskJet 870C in 405B:DeskWriter@Math"' \ > > /usr/local/share/ghostscript/5.10/examples/colorcir.ps \ > > -c quit > > > > And then the printer stays busy until it is powered off and back on: > > Try piping the job to: pap -E -p "....", this works for my standard > Deskwriter. -E ?!? No, it's not in the man-page. Have a look at pap.c - > there are even more switches (and crazy defines :-). Hey, that took care of it straight away... Strangely enough I was using the same #define verbally in my negotiations with the machine :) Vielen Dank, Tim ==== Tim Buller buller@math.ukans.edu Systems Specialist Snow Hall 643, (785) 864-7311 Department of Mathematics University of Kansas, Lawrence, KS 66045 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 24 14:55:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA19223 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 14:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA19118 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 14:55:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA29491; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 14:55:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA29466 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 14:55:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA29421; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 14:55:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA121321; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 11:57:28 -0800 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 11:57:27 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: wesley.craig@umich.edu cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Slow write performance on FreeBSD 2.2.5, 1.4b2 In-Reply-To: <199802240558.AAA10456@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 24 Feb 1998 wesley.craig@umich.edu wrote: > > From: Bill Studenmund > > To: Gary Teter > > > On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Gary Teter wrote: > > > Someone suggested changing the definition of ddp_recvspace in > > > sys/netatalk/ddp_usrreq.c to a higher value, so I changed it to 50 * 600. > > > Doh! That kills my favorite suggestion! > > The normal value of ddp_recvspace, 10 * X, is enough for the eight > packets you'll get back from an ATP transaction, plus a couple more for > extra space. Each time this buffer is overflowed, there's a statistics > block that gets updated, ddps_nosockspace, which your favorite BSD unix > ought to return as output of netstat -s. > > Generally speaking, you should never see this... > > When your network performance is "really, really, slow", it's usually a > bad network. AppleTalk tolerates a *very* low network error rate. In > particular, write performance suffers because of the dual-ATP > transactions used to "turn" the 8 packet response into a write. If > you're getting, write, write, write, long ... pause ... write, write, > etc, then it's almost certainly a bad network. Wes, Though you know the protocol better than I, I've had users clear up slow write problems by upping ddp_recvspace to about 25 * X. I agree it _shouldn't_ matter, but it has helped. I don't understand why (my supposed reason doesn't jibe with your description above). I doubt going to 50 would help much. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 24 16:04:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA22629 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:04:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA22621 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:04:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA18069 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 14:33:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA04983; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 14:33:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA04971 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 14:33:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from gate.pubserv.com ([208.130.167.4] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id OAA04881 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 14:32:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by gate.pubserv.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA07869 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 13:12:14 -0600 Received: from morgana.pubserv.com(204.253.233.11) by gate.pubserv.com via smap (V1.3) id sma007867; Tue Feb 24 13:11:42 1998 Received: from Mufasa.pubserv.com by morgana.pubserv.com with SMTP id AA10164 (5.64+/IDA-1.3.3 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu); Tue, 24 Feb 98 13:39:51 -0600 Received: from localhost (rich@localhost) by Mufasa.pubserv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA05047 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 13:39:50 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: Mufasa.pubserv.com: rich owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 13:39:50 -0600 (CST) From: Richard Mann To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] hiding laserwriters Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is there a good way to hide a laserwriter from the Chooser? This would be in the interest of having all print jobs go to the unix-spooled device (which *would* still show up in the Chooser), instead of haphazardly from various locations. One way would probably be to change the printer type from laserwriter to something else. Has anyone done this with good results? The bad thing would be various Mac utilities not being able to see the printer anymore, such as Font Downloader or LaserWriter Utility, but it might still be worth the hassle. //\ --rich // \ // / \ Richard Mann -- Network Administrator // / / \ P u b l i c a t i o n S e r v i c e s, I n c. \\ / / / Champaign, Illinois, USA 61821 (217) 398-2060 x22 \\ / / \\ / \\/ From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 24 16:24:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA23492 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:24:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA23485 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:24:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA14393; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:24:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA14378 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:24:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from library.ucsf.edu (apollo.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.10]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA14363 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:24:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (windy.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.85]) by library.ucsf.edu (8.8.7/8.7.5) with SMTP id NAA24305; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 13:21:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (han@localhost) by windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA28133; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 13:29:39 -0800 Message-Id: <199802242129.NAA28133@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> To: Richard Mann cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] hiding laserwriters In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Feb 1998 13:39:50 CST." Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 13:29:38 -0800 From: Michael M Han Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I take it to mean that you want to hide the device which advertises itself on AppleTalk, but leave the spooler advertised by papd? We used a little shareware utility called LaserWriter Lockout. It was buggy and a nuisance, but did essentially do what it's supposed to. If you don't want people in the Chooser at all, you could always set the Chooser Invisible; the System would still see it, but no one could run it. Or you could do strange things with ResEdit, which I wouldn't recommend. Any of these would be preferable to trying to hide the device itself, as I really can't think of any way to accomplish that without hiding the printer from papd, too... Previously... >Is there a good way to hide a laserwriter from the >Chooser? This would be in the interest of having >all print jobs go to the unix-spooled device (which >*would* still show up in the Chooser), instead >of haphazardly from various locations. > >One way would probably be to change the printer type >from laserwriter to something else. Has anyone >done this with good results? > >The bad thing would be various Mac utilities not >being able to see the printer anymore, such as >Font Downloader or LaserWriter Utility, but it >might still be worth the hassle. _________ mike (han@library.ucsf.edu) I will not cut corners " " " " " - The collected wisdom of Bart Simpson From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 24 16:54:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA25035 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:54:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA25029 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:54:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA24766 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:45:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA26072; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:45:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA26053 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:45:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhub.hitchcock.org (MAILHUB.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.100]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id QAA26033 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:45:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailbox2.Hitchcock.ORG (MAILBOX2.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.142]) by mailhub.hitchcock.org (8.6.12-DND/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA16572; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:44:56 -0500 Message-id: <155508@mailbox2.Hitchcock.ORG> Date: 24 Feb 98 16:44:56 EST From: William.P.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG (William P. McGonigle) Reply-To: Bill.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] hiding laserwriters To: rich@pubserv.com, netatalk-admins@umich.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --- Richard Mann wrote: Is there a good way to hide a laserwriter from the Chooser? This would be in the interest of having all print jobs go to the unix-spooled device (which *would* still show up in the Chooser), instead of haphazardly from various locations. --- end of quote --- You could send some postscript to the printer like: serverdict begin 0 exitserver statusdict begin /appletalktype (Foo) def end and then make a .paprc file in the spool directory with Richard's LaserWriter:Foo@The Zone serverdict begin 0 exitserver statusdict begin /appletalktype (LaserWriter) def end Should change it back. -Bill PS Don't try this at home. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 24 18:41:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA29083 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 18:41:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA29071 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 18:41:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA27192 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 18:13:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA04509; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 18:13:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA04493 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 18:13:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from gate.pubserv.com ([208.130.167.4]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id SAA04463 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 18:13:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by gate.pubserv.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA08460; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 16:51:52 -0600 Received: from morgana.pubserv.com(204.253.233.11) by gate.pubserv.com via smap (V1.3) id sma008458; Tue Feb 24 16:51:46 1998 Received: from Mufasa.pubserv.com by morgana.pubserv.com with SMTP id AA15588 (5.64+/IDA-1.3.3 for Bill.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG); Tue, 24 Feb 98 17:19:55 -0600 Received: from localhost (rich@localhost) by Mufasa.pubserv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA15810; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 17:19:54 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: Mufasa.pubserv.com: rich owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 17:19:54 -0600 (CST) From: Richard Mann To: Bill.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] hiding laserwriters In-Reply-To: <155508@mailbox2.Hitchcock.ORG> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is very cool. Works like a charm. Thanks! //\ --rich // \ // / \ Richard Mann -- Network Administrator // / / \ P u b l i c a t i o n S e r v i c e s, I n c. \\ / / / Champaign, Illinois, USA 61821 (217) 398-2060 x22 \\ / / \\ / \\/ On 24 Feb 1998, William P. McGonigle wrote: > --- Richard Mann wrote: > Is there a good way to hide a laserwriter from the > Chooser? This would be in the interest of having > all print jobs go to the unix-spooled device (which > *would* still show up in the Chooser), instead > of haphazardly from various locations. > --- end of quote --- > > You could send some postscript to the printer like: > > serverdict begin 0 exitserver > statusdict begin /appletalktype (Foo) def end > > and then make a .paprc file in the spool directory with > > Richard's LaserWriter:Foo@The Zone > > serverdict begin 0 exitserver > statusdict begin /appletalktype (LaserWriter) def end > > Should change it back. > > -Bill > > PS Don't try this at home. > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 24 18:41:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA29096 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 18:41:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA29078 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 18:41:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA28320; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 18:31:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA28315 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 18:31:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA28306; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 18:31:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199802242331.SAA28306@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Bill Studenmund cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Slow write performance on FreeBSD 2.2.5, 1.4b2 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Feb 1998 11:57:27 PST." Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 18:31:10 -0500 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Bill Studenmund > To: wesley.craig@umich.edu > Though you know the protocol better than I, I've had users clear up slow > write problems by upping ddp_recvspace to about 25 * X. I agree it > _shouldn't_ matter, but it has helped. I don't understand why (my > supposed reason doesn't jibe with your description above). I doubt going > to 50 would help much. If it will help, you'd see ddps_nosockspace, in the ddp stats structure growing. It may well be growing, but that probably indicates a different problem than the one I was describing, perhaps a kernel bug. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 24 19:24:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA01677 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 19:24:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA01668 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 19:24:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA29808 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 18:50:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA27308; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 18:50:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA27299 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 18:50:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from gate.pubserv.com ([208.130.167.4] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id SAA27278 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 18:50:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by gate.pubserv.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA08537 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 17:29:23 -0600 Received: from morgana.pubserv.com(204.253.233.11) by gate.pubserv.com via smap (V1.3) id sma008535; Tue Feb 24 17:29:13 1998 Received: from Mufasa.pubserv.com by morgana.pubserv.com with SMTP id AA19196 (5.64+/IDA-1.3.3 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu); Tue, 24 Feb 98 17:57:23 -0600 Received: from localhost (rich@localhost) by Mufasa.pubserv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA17392 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 17:57:22 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: Mufasa.pubserv.com: rich owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 17:57:22 -0600 (CST) From: Richard Mann To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] hiding laserwriters In-Reply-To: <155508@mailbox2.Hitchcock.ORG> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Now if there were just a simple way to download a font from unix? rather than reverting back to FontDownloader or some other utility. Since you can issue the commands mentioned in the > quotes below with lpr, maybe you could download a font with lpr, too? I tried running Type1 Unpacker on a font and downloading it that way, but it didn't seem to work. Has anyone done this, i.e. downloaded PostScript fonts to an AppleTalk printer using just unix commands? //\ --rich // \ // / \ Richard Mann -- Network Administrator // / / \ P u b l i c a t i o n S e r v i c e s, I n c. \\ / / / Champaign, Illinois, USA 61821 (217) 398-2060 x22 \\ / / \\ / \\/ On 24 Feb 1998, William P. McGonigle wrote: > --- Richard Mann wrote: > Is there a good way to hide a laserwriter from the > Chooser? This would be in the interest of having > all print jobs go to the unix-spooled device (which > *would* still show up in the Chooser), instead > of haphazardly from various locations. > --- end of quote --- > > You could send some postscript to the printer like: > > serverdict begin 0 exitserver > statusdict begin /appletalktype (Foo) def end > > and then make a .paprc file in the spool directory with > > Richard's LaserWriter:Foo@The Zone > > serverdict begin 0 exitserver > statusdict begin /appletalktype (LaserWriter) def end > > Should change it back. > > -Bill > > PS Don't try this at home. > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 24 21:05:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA06355 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:05:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA06348 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:05:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA29249; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:04:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA29069 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:04:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA28929; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:03:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id SAA11315; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 18:04:34 -0800 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 18:04:34 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: wesley.craig@umich.edu cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Slow write performance on FreeBSD 2.2.5, 1.4b2 In-Reply-To: <199802242331.SAA28306@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 24 Feb 1998 wesley.craig@umich.edu wrote: > If it will help, you'd see ddps_nosockspace, in the ddp stats structure > growing. It may well be growing, but that probably indicates a > different problem than the one I was describing, perhaps a kernel bug. I'll have them check it next time it comes up. Now if I can only get someone to try this. :-) Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Feb 24 21:18:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA07091 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:18:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA07050 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:17:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA05066; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:17:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA04855 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:16:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from melia.qut.edu.au (melia.qut.edu.au [131.181.127.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA04391 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:15:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pigeon.qut.edu.au (root@pigeon.qut.edu.au) by melia.qut.edu.au (PMDF V5.1-7 #20429) with ESMTP id <01ITZUX1C5G000A09A@melia.qut.edu.au> for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 11:48:22 +1000 Received: from arts_acad_dc (kain.acad.arts.qut.edu.au [131.181.131.101]) by pigeon.qut.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA11137 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 11:44:57 +1000 (EST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 11:41:12 +1000 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 11:41:11 +1000 From: Danny Carroll Subject: [netatalk-admins] Newbie with a few questions.. To: "'netatalk-admins@umich.edu'" Reply-to: "dm.carroll@qut.edu.au" Message-id: <01BD41E2.45D17090.dm.carroll@qut.edu.au> Organization: QUT - Academy of the Arts MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have a few questions of the ignorant type.. plaese excuse if I offend :) System p133 Software netatalk1.42b, redhat 4.2 Clients powermacs 7200/7300/8500's MacOS 8 Ok.. firstly can you stop the user from using a AppleVolumes file from their home dir?? I don't want to share everything... so I don't want them to be able to use such a file. I tried creating one for them (empty) and chown.chmodding it but I found that even though root owned the file.. You could rename it from the Mac... - BAD I wonder if you can do this to other files say /etc/passwd?? Also.. I was curious what the .appledouble folders are ?? do they hold the resource forks?? -Danny =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Danny Carroll - CSO Academy of the Arts, QUT Phone (07) 3864-5903 Fax (07) 3864-5569 Mobile 0412-217-441 E-mail dm.carroll@qut.edu.au From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 25 00:51:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id AAA21941 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 00:51:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA21937 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 00:51:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id AAA02695; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 00:51:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id AAA02690 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 00:51:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.pacificcolor.com (mail.pacificcolor.com [207.67.228.52]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA02680 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 00:51:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from NT2 (207.67.228.201) by mail.pacificcolor.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:52:06 +0000 Message-ID: <34F3B141.5BE7@innerlogic.com> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:50:57 -0800 From: Robert Lucier Reply-To: rlucier@innerlogic.com Organization: InnerLogic X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Multiple network interfaces Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Can netatalk be bound to two or more network interfaces on the same linux machine? My goal is to create a Macintosh file server that can serve through more than one NIC at a time, increasing server throughput. I suppose that the single linux box would have to be represented as two or more different machines in the apple "chooser", but that's fine as long as I can increase the bandwidth. A little background if you're wondering why bandwidth is so crucial that a 100Mbs card can't do the job. I work as a systems admin for a pre-press company. Most of the graphics work is done on Macs. The full resolution image files that we use are routinely 20M or greater, so speed is crucial, and it's not uncommon for two or more macs to be accessing the server at the same time. We're using NT right now, but it can only bind AppleTalk to one NIC. I'd love to save the day with Linux. Thanks for your help and suggestions. Rob Lucier Pacific Color Carlsbad, CA From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 25 02:32:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id CAA24100 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 02:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id CAA24092 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 02:32:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id CAA24031 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 02:28:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id CAA10095; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 02:28:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id CAA10091 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 02:28:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from bock.freinet.de (bock.freinet.de [193.141.226.1]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id CAA10076 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 02:28:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from prometheus (helge@id-online.freinet.de [193.141.226.117]) by bock.freinet.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA20886; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 08:28:47 +0100 Message-ID: <34F29087.2383DE0D@id-online.de> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 10:21:02 +0100 From: Helge =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=FCnnich?= Organization: ID-Online X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Paul M. Fleming" CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] afp problem References: <199802232158.PAA07664@orion.nmc.siu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Paul M. Fleming wrote: > > First, I've been using Netatalk for several years and currently use it in a > Multimedia development lab and it works GREAT. > > But, I have a minor problem. Every once in a while a Macintosh client will not > be able to see any of the netatalk servers. If I restart the client it doesn't > help, but if I restart the servers they reappear, also if I let the client > sit for a few hours the netatalk servers reappear. Is this possibly related to > a time-out problem in netatalk? Any suggestions. I'm using netatalk on the > following configurations: I have observed this after zapping the PRAM. The solution: Deactivate appletalk in Controlfields( Sorry I have a german mac) - close the window - save - and activate appletalk again. Now you should get the server in the chooser. Hope it helps, Helge -- ID-Online Tel.: +49 761 290035 Schauinslandstr. 26c Fax : +49 761 290034 D-79100 Freiburg From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 25 03:53:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id DAA25698 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 03:53:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA25694 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 03:53:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA02362; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 03:53:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA02360 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 03:53:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from johngalt.wwwebservers.com (johngalt.wwwebservers.com [208.21.240.14]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA02355 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 03:53:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from slacker.wwwebservers.com (jon@slacker.wwwebservers.com [208.21.243.83]) by johngalt.wwwebservers.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id CAA00808; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 02:54:18 -0600 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 02:54:23 -0600 (CST) From: Jon Torrez To: Vivek cc: Peter Bolmehag , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] urgent: type/creator for excel files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Vivek wrote: On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Peter Bolmehag wrote: > > > What is the type/creator code for excel files? I need to make netatalk > understand excel files stored by a pc on the linux box. .xl XLS4 XCEL Excel Spreadsheet .xlc XLC4 XCEL Excel Chart .xlm XLM4 XCEL Excel Macro .xls XLS4 XCEL Excel Spreadsheet Whenin doubt, create a file on a mac, and save it to a netatalked directory - then go into the .AppleDouble directory there, and have a look in the file of the same name there: netatalked-directory/some_file netatalked-directory/.Appleouble/some_file That'll have the type/creator info you need. Alternatively, if you have resedit on the Mac, you can use that. I am new; VERY NEW, to the MacOS system and of course resedit: where would I find this info in resedit? -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex I could alsmost swear about reading a program for the mac that can get this info other than resedit, does anyone know what I am talking about? (yes, this message is very old BUT I hardly ever have time to keep poperly updated on my e-mail :(. Thanks...) +-------- | Jon Torrez | Systems Administrator - WWWebServers, Inc. | http://www.wwwebservers.com / jon@wwwebservers.com +---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 25 05:05:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA11824 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:05:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA11586 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:05:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA07997; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:05:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA07995 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:05:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from prawn.amxdigital.com (dns0.amxdigital.com [195.238.161.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id FAA07989 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:05:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from phong.amxdigital.com by prawn.amxdigital.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) id CAA25547; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 02:56:47 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980225100408.00d37400@amxdigital.com> X-Sender: jon@amxdigital.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:04:08 +0000 To: rlucier@innerlogic.com From: Jonathan Peterson Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Multiple network interfaces Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <34F3B141.5BE7@innerlogic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 09:50 PM 2/24/98 -0800, you wrote: >Can netatalk be bound to two or more network interfaces on the same >linux machine? My goal is to create a Macintosh file server that can >serve through more than one NIC at a time, increasing server throughput. Hi, I actually work in a very similar situation (design company moving huge files around a hetergenous network.) Sadly, I do not think that your bottle neck is going to be the NIC, it is going to be the network itself. Ethernet (not TCP/IP) is a broadcast technology. If machines A,B,C,D are all on one network, then if A sends a file to B, that still uses up the network bandwidth let available for C and D. Bascially, this is because the data gets sent to all the machines, and they all ignore it except the intended recipient. So... putting two cards in your server will be great if each card is on a different network, but a bit pointless otherwise - unless all you clients have two cards, and are each on two networks! Now, suppose you had some Macs in 'Print design' and some Macs in 'Digital design'. Well, if each of these departments is on a different network, they can both share files through the same server, and then you will be making use of both cards. Note. You don't have to have seperate networks - you can use something called a switch to split up an ethernet network and make it faster. But, all in all, it seems to me like you need a faster network, not a faster server, and so you really need to look at ethernet network technology - beyond my remit. Final Note. Appletalk/IP is said to be much faster in any case, and if it sits ontop of the TCP/IP stack, it shouldn't care about how many NICs you have. you might want to look at this. eek, long message. -------- Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 Internet Developer Test tube babies shouldn't throw stones. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 25 05:15:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA13476 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:15:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA13470 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:15:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA26655; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:15:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA26653 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:15:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA26643 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:15:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (vivek@malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by malkav.imaginet.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA31217; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:07:41 GMT Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:07:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Vivek To: Danny Carroll cc: "'netatalk-admins@umich.edu'" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Newbie with a few questions.. In-Reply-To: <01BD41E2.45D17090.dm.carroll@qut.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Danny Carroll wrote: > I tried creating one for them (empty) and chown.chmodding it but I found that > even though root owned the file.. You could rename it from the Mac... - BAD > > I wonder if you can do this to other files say /etc/passwd?? The ability to move/delete a file depends on the directory permissions: You aren't altering the file itself, but the directory it is in. After all, if it's your directory, you get a say as to what lives there and what doesn't. It might take a bit of getting used to initially, but it all starts to make sense if you think about it for a while. Think of it like this - you aren't moving/deleting the file: you're removing/changing an entry that points to that file from the directory. -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 25 05:42:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA14358 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:42:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA14353 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:42:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id FAA05555; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:42:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id FAA05553 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:42:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from morris.glam.ac.uk (morris.glam.ac.uk [193.63.134.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA05548 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:42:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from ems2.glam.ac.uk by morris.glam.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:50:32 +0000 Received: by EMS2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:42:58 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Wilkins M (ISD)" To: "'Andras Kadinger'" , "'netatalk-admins@umich.edu'" Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] Doh! (I can't see my netatalk box!) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:42:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi Andras! I took the plunge and bought a surplus synoptic transeiver for the Quadra, which saw my linux box within seconds of being powered up.. :-) It seems it's just a problem with System 6.0.7 or the Kinetics Etherport SE (which only has system 6 driver).. I have system 6.0.8 to try on the weekend if I get a chance.. Suggestions from all (excluding dropping the SE off a bridge or tall building, using it as a doorstop (which is what it does now) or just using it as a telnet terminal most welcome.. Cheers! M. > ---------- > From: Andras Kadinger[SMTP:bandit@freeside.elte.hu] > Sent: 18 February 1998 00:15 > To: Wilkins M (ISD) > Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Doh! > > Wilkins M (ISD) wrote: > > Does system 6 work as a client from a netatalk box? > > I am afraid, it does not. However, I did not try it, and I am also not > an expert. > I suggest You try with the newer system on the Quadra (try to borrow a > transciever for this purpose). > > Sincerely, > Andras Kadinger > bandit@freeside.elte.hu > From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 25 05:45:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA14549 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:45:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA14534 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:45:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA11015; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:45:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA11012 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:45:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from flis.man.torun.pl (flis.man.torun.pl [158.75.33.142]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA10997 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:45:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from via (pbx4.cs.torun.pl [158.75.10.166]) by flis.man.torun.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11894 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 11:44:07 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199802251044.LAA11894@flis.man.torun.pl> From: "Via" To: Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems with papd and Apple LW 360 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 11:40:15 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello Im new on this listserv and im also new linux admin, so i have some = starting problems with correct administartion. And one of theese problem i have is printing from my Macs to Apple = LaserWriter Select 360 which is connected to my linux box through = pararell port. I have installed RedHat 5.0 linux and netatalk 1.4b2 with Charles = Barrasso's patch. I have two net interfaces, one servicing my Windows 95 = computers, and another my Apple computers. I havent any problems with = disk sharing through Appletalk. I have postscript printer (Apple LaserWriter Select 360 with standard = configuration) connected to linux computer. All computers, especially = Macs have to have access to that printer. And they 'see' that printer = and print from programs like Adobe Illustartor, microsoft Word, etc. But = most important is i havent print QuarkXPress documents to taht printer. = It prints mess and postscript scrach. All Macs are running MacOS 8.1 and = im using QuarkXPress 3.31 and 3.32. And one last thing. When i choose LaserWrter 8 in my Chooser and then = run autoselct option for printer, it cannot find LW360 printer and i = have ppd for that printer (LaserWriter Select 360 and LaserWriter Select = 360f). Can anyone help me? Thanx in advance Szatkowski Przemyslaw via@via.pl From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 25 05:59:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA15401 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:59:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA15396 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:59:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA12161; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:59:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA12159 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:59:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from cheviot.ncl.ac.uk (cheviot.ncl.ac.uk [128.240.233.51]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA12146 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 05:59:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from bygate.ncl.ac.uk by cheviot.ncl.ac.uk id (8.7.6/ for ncl.ac.uk) with SMTP; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:59:05 GMT Received: (ngmt@localhost) by bygate.ncl.ac.uk (8.6.7/8.6.x-cf revision 8 for SunOS 4.1.x) id KAA24465; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:59:00 GMT From: "Gerry.Tomlinson" Message-Id: <199802251059.KAA24465@bygate.ncl.ac.uk> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] hiding laserwriters To: rich@pubserv.com (Richard Mann) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:59:00 +0000 (GMT) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: from "Richard Mann" at Feb 24, 98 01:39:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > > Is there a good way to hide a laserwriter from the > Chooser? This would be in the interest of having > all print jobs go to the unix-spooled device (which > *would* still show up in the Chooser), instead > of haphazardly from various locations. > > One way would probably be to change the printer type > from laserwriter to something else. Has anyone > done this with good results? > I use the following rc script to change the printer(s) type - I run it from cron since most printers revert to LaserWriter when powering on. #!/usr/local/bin/rc # # hidelw [-a] printer ... # # change the nbp type of a laserprinter to that # specified in its .paprc file causing it to be hidden from the chooser # if the type is not LaserWriter. # gets the nbp name from the spool dir .paprc file too # # printer is a spool queue name # # -a option looks for all printers with a .paprc file path = (/usr/local/atalk/current/bin /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin $path) if (~ $#* 0) { echo usage: `{basename $0} [-a] printer .... >[1=2] exit 1 } if (~ $1 -a) { for (i in /var/spool/lpd/*/.paprc) printers = ( $printers `{basename `{dirname $i}} ) } else printers = $* for (i in $printers) { if ( [ -d /var/spool/lpd/^$i ] ) { name = `{sed 's/:.*//' < /var/spool/lpd/^$i^/.paprc} type = `{sed 's/.*://' < /var/spool/lpd/^$i^/.paprc} papstatus -p $^name >/dev/null >[2=1] && pap -p $^name << END (%EtherTalk_NV%) << /EtherTalkType ($type) >> setdevparams END } else echo >[1=2] $i: no such printer } > The bad thing would be various Mac utilities not > being able to see the printer anymore, such as > Font Downloader or LaserWriter Utility, but it > might still be worth the hassle. > > you can resedit the mac utilities to use the new type name for occasions when you really do want to get directly at the printer. Gerry. --- Gerry.Tomlinson@newcastle.ac.uk Computing Officer Department of Computing Science, University of Newcastle, Tel: +44 191 222 8139 Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, United Kingdom. Fax: +44 191 222 8232 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 25 07:30:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA17128 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 07:30:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA17124 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 07:29:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id HAA15692; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 07:29:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id HAA15685 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 07:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hermes.nerosworld.com ([205.218.212.67] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id HAA15679 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 07:29:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from deperry@localhost) by hermes.nerosworld.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id GAA00559; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 06:03:06 GMT Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 06:03:05 +0000 () From: David Perry To: Jon Torrez cc: Vivek , Peter Bolmehag , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] urgent: type/creator for excel files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Jon, You could have a look at bunchtyper 1.01 or snitch. Both are very handy. David Perry On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Jon Torrez wrote: > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 02:54:23 -0600 (CST) > From: Jon Torrez > To: Vivek > Cc: Peter Bolmehag , netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] urgent: type/creator for excel files > > On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Vivek wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Peter Bolmehag wrote: > > > > > > > What is the type/creator code for excel files? I need to make netatalk > > understand excel files stored by a pc on the linux box. > > .xl XLS4 XCEL Excel Spreadsheet > .xlc XLC4 XCEL Excel Chart > .xlm XLM4 XCEL Excel Macro > .xls XLS4 XCEL Excel Spreadsheet > > Whenin doubt, create a file on a mac, and save it to a netatalked > directory - then go into the .AppleDouble directory there, and have a look > in the file of the same name there: > > netatalked-directory/some_file > netatalked-directory/.Appleouble/some_file > > That'll have the type/creator info you need. Alternatively, if you have > resedit on the Mac, you can use that. > > > I am new; VERY NEW, to the MacOS system and of course resedit: > where would I find this info in resedit? > > -- > fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex > > > I could alsmost swear about reading a program for the mac that can > get this info other than resedit, does anyone know what I am talking > about? > > (yes, this message is very old BUT I hardly ever have time to keep poperly > updated on my e-mail :(. Thanks...) > > > +-------- > | Jon Torrez > | Systems Administrator - WWWebServers, Inc. > | http://www.wwwebservers.com / jon@wwwebservers.com > +---------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 25 07:40:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA17578 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 07:40:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA17573 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 07:40:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA22868; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 07:40:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA22866 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 07:40:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from hermes.nerosworld.com ([205.218.212.67]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id HAA22857 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 07:40:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from deperry@localhost) by hermes.nerosworld.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id GAA00588; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 06:13:36 GMT Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 06:13:36 +0000 () From: David Perry To: Robert Lucier cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Multiple network interfaces In-Reply-To: <34F3B141.5BE7@innerlogic.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Rob, I thik you should give a look at an OPI system. I work in a shop that on a dialy basis prints 1 gig jobs. The users are so jaded that they think nothing at all of running out 4 or 5 different versions of a poster with a 400 meg tiff file. The server makes a low-res proxie and that file is placed in the page layout program. When printing from quark, the user selects OMIT TIFFS AND EPS to not even send the low-res data back. It would still work just fine if they did but they are allowed that much more a time savings. The job is printed through a print spooler that does the hi-res substitution with files that are local to it then streams the job to the printer via a 100 mBit printer network. I don't know that netatalk has features anywhere close to this but some programs that do include ColorCentral Helios EtherShare OPI K-A Share PrintDesk OPI Hope this helps. David Perry On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Robert Lucier wrote: > Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:50:57 -0800 > From: Robert Lucier > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Subject: [netatalk-admins] Multiple network interfaces > > Can netatalk be bound to two or more network interfaces on the same > linux machine? My goal is to create a Macintosh file server that can > serve through more than one NIC at a time, increasing server throughput. > I suppose that the single linux box would have to be represented as two > or more different machines in the apple "chooser", but that's fine as > long as I can increase the bandwidth. > > A little background if you're wondering why bandwidth is so crucial that > a 100Mbs card can't do the job. I work as a systems admin for a > pre-press company. Most of the graphics work is done on Macs. The full > resolution image files that we use are routinely 20M or greater, so > speed is crucial, and it's not uncommon for two or more macs to be > accessing the server at the same time. We're using NT right now, but it > can only bind AppleTalk to one NIC. I'd love to save the day with Linux. > > Thanks for your help and suggestions. > > Rob Lucier > Pacific Color > Carlsbad, CA > From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 25 10:44:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA23572 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:44:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA23552 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:44:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA00643; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:44:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA00639 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:44:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from des.castles.com (des.castles.com [208.214.166.35]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA00628 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:44:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hardaker@localhost) by des.castles.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id HAA00925; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 07:44:04 -0800 To: "Jonathan R. Wilner" Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems Compiling Netatalk/asun on Solaris 2.5.1 References: X-Face: #qW^}a%m*T^{A:Cp}$R\"38+d}41-Z}uU8,r%F#c#s:~Nzp0G9](s?,K49KJ]s"*7gvRgA SrAvQc4@/}L7Qc=w{)]ACO\R{LF@S{pXfojjjGg6c;q6{~C}CxC^^&~(F]`1W)%9j/iS/ IM",B1M.?{w8ckLTYD'`|kTr\i\cgY)P4 X-url: http://dcas.ucdavis.edu/~hardaker Organization: U.C.Davis, Information Technology - D.C.A.S. Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Wes Hardaker Date: 25 Feb 1998 07:42:38 -0800 In-Reply-To: "Jonathan R. Wilner"'s message of "Tue, 24 Feb 1998 11:42:38 -0500 (EST)" Message-ID: X-Mailer: Quassia Gnus v0.31/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Lines: 15 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >>>>> On Tue, 24 Feb 1998 11:42:38 -0500 (EST), "Jonathan R. Wilner" said: Jonathan> Speaking of that, has anyone gotten the Mac Kerberos UAMs to Jonathan> work with Kerberos 5? It seems like if the Kerberos 5 runs Jonathan> with Version 4 support, it should work. Unfortunately, I Jonathan> haven't ever really found any documentation on how to Jonathan> properly configure any of them. Yes, I've gotten it to work with the current MIT releases. It took a while to get it done, but I managed. You can compile the afpd with -lkrb4 from the current MIT package and run an MIT KDC and it should work ok... -- "Ninjas aren't dangerous. They're more afraid of you than you are of them." From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 25 11:19:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA25749 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 11:19:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA25737 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 11:19:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA24633; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:57:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA24631 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:57:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA24536; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:56:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199802251556.KAA24536@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: "Gerry.Tomlinson" cc: rich@pubserv.com (Richard Mann), netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] hiding laserwriters In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:59:00 GMT." <199802251059.KAA24465@bygate.ncl.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:56:40 -0500 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: "Gerry.Tomlinson" > To: rich@pubserv.com (Richard Mann) > I use the following rc script to change the printer(s) type - > I run it from cron since most printers revert to LaserWriter > when powering on. That's pretty cool, Gerry. I don't use rc around here, so here's the script we use. Your's is better since mine relies on there not being certain .paprc cases that we never use. I guess it could be fixed by setting IFS twice. By running "hideprinters.sh" out of cron, it sends mail when the type needs to be changed. We run is once every 15 minutes for machines that service around 6 printers. :wes --- cut --- #!/bin/sh # wes and spanky 1/28/97 PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/local/etc ZONE="*" cd /var/spool/lpd for i in *; do if [ ! -f "$i"/.paprc ]; then continue fi TIFS="$IFS" IFS=":@" set `cat "$i"/.paprc` IFS="$TIFS" if [ $# -eq 1 ]; then continue fi if [ $# -eq 3 ]; then ZONE="$3" fi if [ $# -gt 3 ]; then echo OOPS! fi setprintertype.sh -p "$1@$ZONE" "$2" > /dev/null 2>&1 if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then echo "$1@$ZONE changed to $2" fi done --- cut --- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 25 12:10:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA28106 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 12:10:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA28102 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 12:10:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA10455; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 12:10:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA10449 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 12:10:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA10400 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 12:10:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id SAA04777 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 18:10:05 +0100 Message-ID: <34F44FCB.6839E8A7@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 18:07:23 +0100 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk list Subject: [netatalk-admins] Filename case coversion/lookup Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Dear list members, Recently I had experiences with POV-Ray for the Mac, which are traced back by pure deduction to filename case _sensitivity_; that is, I suspect, netatalk 1.4b2+asun 18 suffers in case-sensitive name matching. Might the more knowledgeable point me to the netatalk routine responsible for name matching? I would like to try my teeth on this issue. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 25 14:13:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA01267 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 14:13:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA01253 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 14:13:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA28609 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 12:19:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA14653; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 12:19:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA14648 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 12:19:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.dom.de (mail.dom.de [194.77.86.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA14605 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 12:19:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from vom.dom.de (vom.dom.de [194.77.86.80]) by mail.dom.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA00339 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 18:19:42 +0100 From: "Markus" To: Subject: [netatalk-admins] HELP - files written by OS8 are corrupted! Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 18:17:42 +0100 Message-ID: <01bd4211$483ee2c0$50564dc2@vom.dom.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu hi, we have 4 macs reading and writing to a linux fileserver running atalk 1.4b2. the linux is 2.0.74 we mainly use it for developping web projects. the macs use BBEdit for that purpose. some files written by the only machine that uses OS8 are randomly populated by x00 values which cause any other machine than a mac (including the httpd running on the linux box) to stop reading the file at exactly the posistion where the x00 value is. it is possible to use a unix text editor to remove these values, from then the files is perfectly read. as you may consider this does not really contribute to a streamlined production process ;) any hints how to stop that behaviour? markus Digital Online Media GmbH Bismarck Str. 60 D-50672 Koeln http://www.dom.de From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 25 15:40:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA04856 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 15:40:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA04846 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 15:40:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA22186; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 15:40:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA22173 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 15:40:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA22153 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 15:40:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA126582; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 12:42:53 -0800 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 12:42:52 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: Jon Torrez cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] urgent: type/creator for excel files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Jon Torrez wrote: > On Thu, 12 Feb 1998, Vivek wrote: > > That'll have the type/creator info you need. Alternatively, if you have > resedit on the Mac, you can use that. > > > I am new; VERY NEW, to the MacOS system and of course resedit: > where would I find this info in resedit? Assuming you have ResEdit, go look on the File... menu. There's a Get Info for This File, and a Get File/Folder Info command. The former works on a file you've already opened, the latter on an unopened file. The crator and type info will be obvious in the opened window. Since you're new (and ask for advise :-), be careful w/ ResEdit. It's a unix-like utility. It's a MacOS Application (windows, sensible views, sensible menues, etc.), but it lets you get at the innards of things and mess with them. It will also let you do stupid things (after asking, "Are you sure" for some) since it can't tell the difference between something stupid and something very clever. I've heard a quote where UNIX is described just that way (letting you do both stupid and clever things). Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 25 15:48:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA05165 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 15:48:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA05157 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 15:48:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA11047; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 15:48:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA11038 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 15:48:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id PAA11016 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 15:48:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22072; Wed, 25 Feb 98 20:48:05 GMT Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 19:46:36 GMT From: John Barry -Technician Received: from sue (sue.tees) by scorch; Wed, 25 Feb 98 20:42:35 GMT Date: Wed, 25 Feb 98 20:42:18 GMT Message-Id: <25970.9802252042@sue> To: asun@zoology.washington.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] 1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 compile problem. Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I've been using 1.4b2+asun2.0a13 for a while now without problems, and I thought I'd have a bash at installing 1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2, and I've found a peculiar problem: The only warning i get through the entire compile process is this: etc/afpd auth.c: In function `login': auth.c:427: warning: passing arg 2 of `getgroups' from incompatible pointer type auth.c: In function `check_user': auth.c:667: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast it all goes well untill this happens: gcc -DBSD4_3 -D_POSIX_MAPPED_FILES -O5 -I../../include -DAPPLCNAME -DCRLF -o afpd unix.o afs.o kuam.o send_to_kdc.o lifetime.o ofork.o main.o switch.o auth.o volume.o directory.o file.o enumerate.o desktop.o filedir.o fork.o appl.o gettok.o bprint.o status.o afp_options.o afp_asp.o afp_dsi.o messages.o config.o -L../../libatalk -latalk collect2: ld returned 2 exit status ld: Undefined symbol _inet_aton *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `afpd' SunOS zool 4.1.4 3 sun4m gcc 2.7.2.1 links OK, but segmentation faults on startup: [8:21pm] zool ld -o afpd unix.o afs.o kuam.o send_to_kdc.o lifetime.o ofork.o main.o switch.o auth.o volume.o directory.o file.o enumerate.o desktop.o filedir.o fork.o appl.o gettok.o bprint.o status.o afp_options.o afp_asp.o afp_dsi.o messages.o config.o -L../../libatalk -latalk [8:21pm] zool afpd Segmentation fault [8:21pm] zool with Sun cc: [8:27pm] zool make Making all for sunos... cc -DBSD4_3 -D_POSIX_MAPPED_FILES -O2 -I../../include -I../netatalk -DKERNEL -D`arch -k` -c at_sun.c "../../include/netatalk/endian.h", line 78: illegal type combination *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `at_sun.o' Current working directory /tmp_mnt/home/u0011042/u0011115/netatalk-a18.2/sys/sunos *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all' If I force the link the rest of the compile is clean, as is the install. since a segmentation fault is usually a programming problem, I was wondering if you had any ideas... I'm not using PAM, DES or TCPWRAP (if I need to use the TCPWRAP stuff where do I find it?) Any help would be appreciated. later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 25 17:11:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA08509 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:11:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA08503 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:11:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA15909; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:11:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA15907 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:11:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from melia.qut.edu.au (melia.qut.edu.au [131.181.127.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA15885 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:11:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from pigeon.qut.edu.au (root@pigeon.qut.edu.au) by melia.qut.edu.au (PMDF V5.1-7 #20429) with ESMTP id <01IU11O1C7K000AO9S@melia.qut.edu.au> for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:12:43 +1000 Received: from arts_acad_dc (kain.acad.arts.qut.edu.au [131.181.131.101]) by pigeon.qut.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA01689; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:09:39 +1000 (EST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:05:55 +1000 Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:05:54 +1000 From: Danny Carroll Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] Newbie with a few questions.. To: "'Vivek'" Cc: "'netatalk-admins@umich.edu'" Reply-to: "dm.carroll@qut.edu.au" Message-id: <01BD428D.5CFE6600.dm.carroll@qut.edu.au> Organization: QUT - Academy of the Arts MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wednesday, 25 February 1998 20:08, Vivek [SMTP:vivek@imaginet.co.uk] wrote: > On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Danny Carroll wrote: > > > I tried creating one for them (empty) and chown.chmodding it but I found > > that > > even though root owned the file.. You could rename it from the Mac... - > > BAD > > > > I wonder if you can do this to other files say /etc/passwd?? > > The ability to move/delete a file depends on the directory permissions: > You aren't altering the file itself, but the directory it is in. After > all, if it's your directory, you get a say as to what lives there and what > doesn't. It might take a bit of getting used to initially, but it all > starts to make sense if you think about it for a while. Think of it like > this - you aren't moving/deleting the file: you're removing/changing an > entry that points to that file from the directory. But it shouldn't be like that... if I have a home diectory like this.. user : testuser 1 drwxr-xr-x 3 testuser users 1024 Feb 26 08:05 ./ 1 drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 1024 Feb 25 14:41 ../ 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 testuser users 251 Feb 22 01:14 .bash_history 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 testuser users 24 Jul 14 1994 .bash_logout 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 testuser users 220 Aug 24 1995 .bash_profile 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 testuser users 124 Aug 24 1995 .bashrc 0 -rw------- 1 root root 0 Feb 26 08:05 AppleVolumes Then nothing should let testuser alter that file EVEN if it is in the home dir... testuser logs in via apple... Rename the file (Have to click a few times) and hey presto, it looks like this.. 1 drwxr-xr-x 3 testuser users 1024 Feb 26 08:05 ./ 1 drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 1024 Feb 25 14:41 ../ 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 testuser users 251 Feb 22 01:14 .bash_history 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 testuser users 24 Jul 14 1994 .bash_logout 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 testuser users 220 Aug 24 1995 .bash_profile 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 testuser users 124 Aug 24 1995 .bashrc 0 -rw------- 1 root root 0 Feb 26 08:05 anynameyouwant Testuser then can create a new AppleVolumes file. how do you disable the use of AppleVolumes in home dir's?? -Danny =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Danny Carroll - CSO Academy of the Arts, QUT Phone (07) 3864-5903 Fax (07) 3864-5569 Mobile 0412-217-441 E-mail dm.carroll@qut.edu.au From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 25 17:58:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA10677 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:58:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA10671 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:58:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA01349; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:58:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA01347 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:58:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA01339 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 17:58:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id XAA22092 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 23:58:45 +0100 Message-ID: <34F4A19A.5ED0B384@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 23:56:26 +0100 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Newbie with a few questions.. References: <01BD428D.5CFE6600.dm.carroll@qut.edu.au> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------4600E89E395C93217B547DEF" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4600E89E395C93217B547DEF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Danny Carroll wrote: > how do you disable the use of AppleVolumes in home dir's?? If You really want to disable all AppleVolumes in home dirs, try the patch below. It removes the check for the users's AppleVolumes files, so effectively afpd then ignores them. Be careful, I am not a very experienced patcher. 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To: "dm.carroll@qut.edu.au" , "'Vivek'" cc: "'netatalk-admins@umich.edu'" In-Reply-To: <01BD428D.5CFE6600.dm.carroll@qut.edu.au> Message-ID: X-Authenticated: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >> The ability to move/delete a file depends on the directory permissions: >> You aren't altering the file itself, but the directory it is in. After >> all, if it's your directory, you get a say as to what lives there and what >> doesn't. It might take a bit of getting used to initially, but it all >> starts to make sense if you think about it for a while. Think of it like >> this - you aren't moving/deleting the file: you're removing/changing an >> entry that points to that file from the directory. > >But it shouldn't be like that... if I have a home diectory like this.. Well, what he's saying is that the system he described is just what UN*X does. If you were to log in and try that using tcsh, bash, zsh, sh, etc, you would have the same results. If you're a programmer, think of this: You have some data that you can't touch. The only way to access the data is through a system call. (Think of filehandles...they're just integers, but the system deals with them) Now, you create an array of a structure that holds the reference to the data (say, the filehandle), and an internal name for what that data is. You could change that name all day long if you wanted to, without touching the data. Now, if you understand that, substitue 'data' to be 'file', and substitue 'structure' to be 'inode'. The user owns the inodes (the directory structure), and can change them at will -- they own the inodes -- but cannot touch the data contained within the files. Basically, the filename is not intrinsic to the data that is contained within. The filename is part of the directory structure, which the user owns and can change. > >Then nothing should let testuser alter that file EVEN if it is in the home >dir... > The users cannot alter the file....they altered the inodes that reference the file. If you want to _absolutely_ make sure that the user's AppleVolumes are not scanned, get the source and change one line: volume.c, line 118 (do a search in it for "AppleVolume") The line } else if (( pwent = getpwnam( username )) != NULL ) { Can become } else if ( NULL ) { Now, two caveats: 1. I'm based off the asun patches (just downloaded the source from him), so this might be different in the base tree. 2. I didn't test this, I just looked. This LOOKS right, but you might have to change a couple of things. --Mark "I think so Brain, but if they called them sad meals, then no one would buy them." From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 25 18:55:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA12740 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 18:55:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA12728 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 18:55:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA00333; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 18:55:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA00330 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 18:55:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA00314 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 18:55:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA129915; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 15:54:22 -0800 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 15:54:21 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund Reply-To: Bill Studenmund To: Danny Carroll cc: "'Vivek'" , "'netatalk-admins@umich.edu'" Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] Newbie with a few questions.. In-Reply-To: <01BD428D.5CFE6600.dm.carroll@qut.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Danny Carroll wrote: > On Wednesday, 25 February 1998 20:08, Vivek [SMTP:vivek@imaginet.co.uk] wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Danny Carroll wrote: > > > But it shouldn't be like that... if I have a home diectory like this.. > user : testuser > > 1 drwxr-xr-x 3 testuser users 1024 Feb 26 08:05 ./ ^ ^ ^ | | +--- Folks not "testuser" and not in the "users" group can't | | change file names | | | +------ Members of the "users" group can't change file names | +--------- user testuser CAN change the names of files in this directory > 1 drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 1024 Feb 25 14:41 ../ > 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 testuser users 251 Feb 22 01:14 .bash_history > 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 testuser users 24 Jul 14 1994 .bash_logout > 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 testuser users 220 Aug 24 1995 .bash_profile > 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 testuser users 124 Aug 24 1995 .bashrc > 0 -rw------- 1 root root 0 Feb 26 08:05 AppleVolumes testuser can't change the AppleVolumes file's contents though. > Then nothing should let testuser alter that file EVEN if it is in the home > dir... But the file's name is seperate from the file's contents, and as such testuser can change the name. Name entries in directory listings are just pointers to files. Since they are themselves in a file, if you can write to the file containing them (the file containing the directory in which they reside), you change the name of a pointer (the visable name of a file). One reason for this separation is that you can then have multiple names pointing to one file. For instance, your ls above indicates that there are three references to ./ . I'm going to assume this directory's path is /home/testuser/. This in /home, there is a reference, named "testuser", to the file representing this directory. In this directory itself, there is a reference, named "." also refering to this directory. Thus when you cd . you come back to where you started. Unless your fs is broken, you also have a directory in this directory. I'll call it subdir. In subdir, there is a reference, named "..", which also points to the first directory. So "/home/testuser", "/home/testuser/.", and "/home/testuser/subdir/.." all point to the same file (which is the special type called a directory and contains all the above stuff). So, annoying as it is, what you've seen is perfectly legit. UN*X behavior. Just to see that permissions are ok, you weren't able to change the contents of the AppleVolumes file, were you? I hope this explanation helped. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Feb 25 23:56:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id XAA06314 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 23:56:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id XAA06308 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 23:56:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.144.15]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA05545 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 23:52:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id XAA19296 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 23:12:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id XAA18397; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 23:11:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id XAA18395 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 23:11:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.roadrunner.com (internet.roadrunner.com [198.59.109.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA18391 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 23:11:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (dial245.roadrunner.com [198.59.109.245]) by internet.roadrunner.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA22734 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 21:16:11 -0700 (MST) X-Sender: etgold@198.59.109.7 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 21:18:45 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Ethan Gold Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk companion software announcement Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Greetings. I'm announcing the first alpha/beta release of a network browser tool styled after the Macintosh Chooser. Tkchooser2 supports appletalk via netatalk and will hopefully soon support SMB via samba. I'd like to get an idea of how much interest there is in such a tool and if there is any interest in writing additional plugins. If you have any questions, suggestions or whatever, please email me. The URL for the tkchooser web page is: http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~etgold/chooser.html >From the README: Description: ------------ Tkchooser(2) is an interpreted, modular, extensible network browsing utility for Xwindows designed after the Macintosh Chooser. Motivation: ----------- There is no decent network browser for unix that I'm aware of. MacOS and Windoze both have reasonable interfaces to their respective LAN protocols. Unix increasingly has to live alongside Windoze and MacOS PC's and access their resources - especially if you are living in Linuxland. So I decided to model tkchooser after the macintosh chooser and give it multiple protocol capabilities. The idea is that thru a modular interface both Appletalk, SMB, and other (IPX?, IP?) protocols can be supported by reloadable modules. Functionality is provided by plugins which implement specific types of network operations such as mounting shared volumes, printing to shared printers, etc. Additionally, this interface could be used to set defaults for other tools as well. The tie between the plugins and the network modules is somewhat arbitrary. Plugins can register themselves with multiple protocols. In fact, the protocols do not even need to be network modules. --------------------------------------------------- | Ethan Gold, Vassar College class of '97 | | http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~etgold/ | |---------------------------------------------------| | UGS Research Assistant | | Nonproliferation and International Security | | Los Alamos National Laboratory, Los Alamos, NM | --------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 26 02:04:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id CAA00764 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 02:04:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.144.15]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id CAA00757 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 02:04:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id BAA27123 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 01:02:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id BAA10986; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 01:02:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id BAA10984 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 01:02:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (colossus.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.202]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA10956 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 01:02:07 -0500 (EST) From: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za Received: from localhost (jon@localhost) by colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA00473; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:03:24 +0200 Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:03:24 +0200 (SAT) To: Ethan Gold cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk companion software announcement In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu very nice idea, i especially like the idea of porting broadcast (something i need desperately when i want to down my server). Now the trick is: how do you run it? ____________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick jon@cs.wits.ac.za, +27 11 716-3783 Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand Web site, ftp site and listserv all available at: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/ On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Ethan Gold wrote: > Greetings. I'm announcing the first alpha/beta release of a network browser > tool styled after the Macintosh Chooser. Tkchooser2 supports appletalk via > netatalk and will hopefully soon support SMB via samba. > I'd like to get an idea of how much interest there is in such a tool and if > there is any interest in writing additional plugins. > If you have any questions, suggestions or whatever, please email me. > The URL for the tkchooser web page is: > http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~etgold/chooser.html > > >From the README: > > > Description: > ------------ > Tkchooser(2) is an interpreted, modular, extensible > network browsing utility for Xwindows designed after > the Macintosh Chooser. > > Motivation: > ----------- > There is no decent network browser for unix that I'm aware of. > MacOS and Windoze both have reasonable interfaces to their > respective LAN protocols. Unix increasingly has to live alongside > Windoze and MacOS PC's and access their resources - especially if > you are living in Linuxland. So I decided to model tkchooser after > the macintosh chooser and give it multiple protocol capabilities. > The idea is that thru a modular interface both Appletalk, SMB, and > other (IPX?, IP?) protocols can be supported by reloadable modules. > Functionality is provided by plugins which implement specific > types of network operations such as mounting shared volumes, printing > to shared printers, etc. Additionally, this interface could be used > to set defaults for other tools as well. The tie between the plugins > and the network modules is somewhat arbitrary. Plugins can register > themselves with multiple protocols. In fact, the protocols do not even > need to be network modules. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > | Ethan Gold, Vassar College class of '97 | > | http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~etgold/ | > |---------------------------------------------------| > | UGS Research Assistant | > | Nonproliferation and International Security | > | Los Alamos National Laboratory, Los Alamos, NM | > --------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 26 03:37:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id DAA02808 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 03:37:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA02803 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 03:37:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA03681; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 03:37:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA03679 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 03:37:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from safir.spray.fi (safir.spray.fi [195.10.150.130]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id DAA03669 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 03:37:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 17048 invoked from network); 26 Feb 1998 08:37:29 -0000 Received: from ws142.spray.fi (HELO NEPTUNE) (195.10.150.142) by safir.spray.fi with SMTP; 26 Feb 1998 08:37:29 -0000 To: Jonathan Peterson Cc: rlucier@innerlogic.com, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Multiple network interfaces References: <3.0.1.32.19980225100408.00d37400@amxdigital.com> From: Osma Ahvenlampi Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.95) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 26 Feb 1998 10:37:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: Jonathan Peterson's message of "Wed, 25 Feb 1998 10:04:08 +0000" Message-ID: Lines: 15 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Jonathan Peterson writes: > Ethernet (not TCP/IP) is a broadcast technology. If machines A,B,C,D are > all on one network, then if A sends a file to B, that still uses up the Ethernet is, but switched Ethernet isn't. If you have two interfaces in your server, a high-capacity 100Mbit switch, and one interface in each client, you're essentially allowing two clients to have simultaneous 100Mbit bandwidth to the server. The server has a total of 200MBit, with half of it usable for any one client. Well, that's how it works with TCP/IP based protocols and round-robin DNS, anyway. -- When the going gets wierd, the weird turn pro. Osma Ahvenlampi From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 26 04:26:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA03593 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 04:26:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA03589 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 04:26:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA07061; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 04:26:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA07059 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 04:26:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from cnve.rz.uni-jena.de (cnve.rz.uni-jena.de [141.35.1.32]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA07055 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 04:26:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from paxp01.mipool.uni-jena.de (1073744992@paxp01.mipool.uni-jena.de [141.35.13.80]) by cnve.rz.uni-jena.de (8.8.7/8.6.10) with ESMTP id KAA20178 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:26:36 +0100 (MEZ) Received: (from stoerl@localhost) by paxp01.mipool.uni-jena.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA05440 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:26:35 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199802260926.KAA05440@paxp01.mipool.uni-jena.de> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk on AIX? (Newbie question) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:26:34 +0100 (MET) From: stoerl@minet.uni-jena.de (Uta Stoerl) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hallo, I'm looking for a (free) file- and printserver for Mac under AIX. In the netatalk-faq I found the statement: 1.6 What platforms does netatalk support? AIX: No longer supported. ... What does this means? Netatalk definitively does not run under AIX? or further releases of netatalk will not be run under AIX? Any help would be welcome. Uta P.S. AIX: 4.2, MacOS: 7.5.5 --- Uta Stoerl stoerl@informatik.uni-jena.de From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 26 08:44:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA22666 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:44:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA22652 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:44:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA06107; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:44:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA06104 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:44:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id IAA06098 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:44:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from majink1.itc.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa05841; 26 Feb 98 8:44 EST Received: from majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU (majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU [128.143.12.118]) by majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA05423 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:43:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199802261343.IAA05423@majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:43:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert J. Marinchick" Reply-To: "Robert J. Marinchick" Subject: [netatalk-admins] HP III Text Printer To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: xOAwqRtys6BQJLoj7NiOGA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4c sparc Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I've got Netatalk running on a Solaris IPC using 2.6. We've got a HPIII Text Printer sitting out on our network that we would like to use as an Appletalk printer. Can we use this printer to print Mac output if we have the correct .ppd file? The documentation "How to setup the printer using Appletalk" implies that we can set this up as a locally attached printer (which seem to work, I can print Post Script code on that printer). How do I setup the .ppd file? The documentation shows the .ppd resident in a Unix directory. When I read the documentation at the Adobe URL it looks as if it belongs on the Mac. Will this printer work with the proper .ppd, and how would I set it up? All comments are appreciated. Bob Marinchick rjm8m@Virginia.Edu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 26 09:23:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA24891 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 09:23:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA24883 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 09:23:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id JAA24241; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 09:23:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id JAA24239 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 09:23:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA24229 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 09:22:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08860; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 09:22:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from cec.mtu.edu (root@cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.196]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14948; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 09:22:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from critter.cec.mtu.edu (critter.cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.204]) by cec.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/mtumailer-1.2) with SMTP id JAA08770; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 09:22:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 09:23:45 -0500 (EST) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@critter.cec.mtu.edu To: "Robert J. Marinchick" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] HP III Text Printer In-Reply-To: <199802261343.IAA05423@majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Robert J. Marinchick wrote: > I've got Netatalk running on a Solaris IPC using 2.6. > > We've got a HPIII Text Printer sitting out on our network that we would > like to use as an Appletalk printer. Can we use this printer to print Mac > output if we have the correct .ppd file? If it prints PostScript, like you say it does, it should be relatively easy to get the printer working with papd. http://www.cec.mtu.edu/Doc/FAQ/netatalk.html If there aren't enough notes on that page to get you going, or you hate it, or whatever, let me know. - edan From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 26 12:47:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA04269 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 12:47:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA04252 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 12:47:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA10722; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 12:47:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA10715 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 12:47:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from cheviot.ncl.ac.uk (cheviot.ncl.ac.uk [128.240.233.51]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA10688; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 12:46:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from bygate.ncl.ac.uk by cheviot.ncl.ac.uk id (8.7.6/ for ncl.ac.uk) with SMTP; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 17:46:53 GMT Received: (ngmt@localhost) by bygate.ncl.ac.uk (8.6.7/8.6.x-cf revision 8 for SunOS 4.1.x) id RAA14694; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 17:46:52 GMT From: "Gerry.Tomlinson" Message-Id: <199802261746.RAA14694@bygate.ncl.ac.uk> Subject: [netatalk-admins] type/creator display/change utilities available To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 17:46:51 +0000 (GMT) Cc: netatalk@umich.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've written a couple of small utilities which let you display (afile) and change (achfile) the type/creator of netatalk files. They are available from ftp://ftp.ncl.ac.uk/pub/users/ngmt/netatalk/afile.tgz Gerry --- Gerry.Tomlinson@newcastle.ac.uk Computing Officer Department of Computing Science, University of Newcastle, Tel: +44 191 222 8139 Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, United Kingdom. Fax: +44 191 222 8232 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 26 14:22:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA09601 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:22:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA09597 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:22:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA16955; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:22:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA16946 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:22:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id OAA16919 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:22:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08172; Thu, 26 Feb 98 19:22:35 GMT Received: from scorch ([152.105.66.112]) by teesside.ac.uk; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 18:21:31 GMT From: John Barry -Technician Received: from tom (tom.tees) by scorch; Thu, 26 Feb 98 19:17:33 GMT Date: Thu, 26 Feb 98 19:17:18 GMT Message-Id: <26676.9802261917@tom> To: VAL-L@vm.marist.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Iomega Zip Drive problem Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folks, If you own or use a Zip diskDrive, and haven't done so already, please point your browser at the following sites: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0%2C4%2C18622%2C00.html http://members.aol.com/zipcod1/Zip.html These sites detail the "click of death" problem that can afflict *ALL* Zip Drives. later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Feb 26 14:50:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA10893 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:50:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA10885 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:50:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA16273; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:50:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA16266 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:50:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from oberon.math.ukans.edu (oberon.math.ukans.edu [129.237.128.5]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA16195 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 14:50:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from oin.math.ukans.edu (buller@oin [129.237.131.20]) by oberon.math.ukans.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA23110; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 13:50:11 -0600 (CST) Received: (from buller@localhost) by oin.math.ukans.edu (8.8.5/8.8.7) id NAA01091; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 13:49:56 -0600 Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 13:49:56 -0600 (CST) From: Tim Buller X-Sender: buller@oin To: sun-managers@ra.mcs.anl.gov, netatalk-admins@umich.edu cc: Tim Buller Subject: [netatalk-admins] SUMMARY: Printing to LocalTalk DeskJet Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Just a brief summary of how I setup a queue on a Solaris 2.5.1 host for an LocalTalk connected HP DeskJet 870Cxi using stock netatalk 1.4b2. 1) First, create the printer as a normal postscript printer: # /usr/sbin/lpadmin -p dj870 -v /dev/null -I postscript -T PS 2) Use the interface script from netatalk: # /usr/sbin/lpadmin -p dj870 -i /usr/local/atalk/etc/lp2pap.sh 3) Put the NBP name of the printer into the appropriate .paprc file: # echo "DeskJet 870C in 405B:DeskWriter@Math" > \ /etc/lp/printers/dj870/.paprc 4) Change the print command line in /etc/lp/interfaces/dj870 from: /usr/local/atalk/bin/pap "$6" to: /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=cdj550 \ -sOutputFile='|/usr/local/atalk/bin/pap -E' "$6" -c quit 2>/dev/null The '-E' on pap is important, otherwise, no EOF gets sent. STDERR is directed to /dev/null because jobs spooled via Samba were printing out two extra lines on a different page after the job had completed. 5) Bring the printer up /usr/sbin/accept dj870 /bin/enable dj870 That's it! If you have problems, or if I missed something obvious, let me know. A better way to do this might be to setup a filter named PCL or something using ghostscript and tell the printer to use Content-type PCL, but this seemed a little too fancy for what I was trying to do. Tim ==== Tim Buller buller@math.ukans.edu Systems Specialist Snow Hall 643, (785) 864-7311 Department of Mathematics University of Kansas, Lawrence, KS 66045 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 27 01:10:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id BAA04920 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 01:10:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id BAA04914 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 01:10:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA24684 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 22:41:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA07185; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 22:41:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA07180 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 22:41:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au (oznet02.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.124]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA07168 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 22:41:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from primus.intranet.phoenixmags.com.au (phxmags.ozemail.com.au [203.108.37.130]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA19291 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 14:41:02 +1100 (EST) Received: from phoenixmags.com.au (tech1.intranet.phoenixmags.com.au [192.168.2.1]) by primus.intranet.phoenixmags.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA08008 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 14:40:56 +1100 Message-ID: <34F635C7.408BF057@phoenixmags.com.au> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 14:40:55 +1100 From: Jonathan Benson Organization: Phoenix Magazines X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Corrupted Files? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------EBE7C78C138A3B5FCFEAF97B" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EBE7C78C138A3B5FCFEAF97B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm having troubles with Excel 5.0 documents suddenly appearing corrupted. If anyone can point me to a way to trace down the cause it would be MOST appreciated. Also any hints on recovering one of these damaged files would also be appreciated as I haven't managed to get out and purchase tapes for the DAT drive and hence a backup hasn't occurred for a week. :-( I've viewed the file in question and compared it to similar Excel files and can't see any glaringly obvious differences so I'm hoping there may be SOME way to recover the data. Below is some snippets from my system log that MIGHT have something to do with it? Feb 27 09:52:03 primus afpd[29435]: flushfork: dfile Bad file descriptor Feb 27 09:52:03 primus afpd[29435]: of_flush: Bad file descriptor Feb 27 09:52:44 primus afpd[29435]: flushfork: dfile Bad file descriptor Feb 27 09:52:44 primus afpd[29435]: of_flush: Bad file descriptor Feb 27 09:55:57 primus afpd[29435]: flushfork: dfile Bad file descriptor Feb 27 09:55:57 primus afpd[29435]: of_flush: Bad file descriptor Feb 27 09:58:37 primus afpd[29435]: afp_write: ad_write: Bad file descriptor Feb 27 09:58:37 primus afpd[29435]: afp_closefork: ad_close: Bad file descriptor Feb 27 11:51:10 primus afpd[29435]: flushfork: hfile Bad file descriptor Feb 27 11:51:10 primus afpd[29435]: of_flush: Bad file descriptor Feb 27 11:52:32 primus afpd[29435]: afp_write: ad_write: Bad file descriptor Feb 27 11:52:32 primus afpd[29435]: afp_closefork: ad_close: Bad file descriptor Thanks, Jonathan --------------EBE7C78C138A3B5FCFEAF97B Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Jonathan Benson Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Jonathan Benson n: Benson;Jonathan org: Phoenix Magazines adr: Level 1, 34 Eastern Road;;;South Melbourne;VIC;3205;Australia email;internet: tech@phoenixmags.com.au title: Mr tel;work: +61 3 9696 7200 tel;fax: +61 3 9696 8313 x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: TRUE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------EBE7C78C138A3B5FCFEAF97B-- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 27 01:10:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id BAA04935 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 01:10:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id BAA04929 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 01:10:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA28622 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:56:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA03731; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:56:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA03708 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:56:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from bigtime.blank.org (bigtime.blank.org [139.167.64.222]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id KAA03690 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:56:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 13677 invoked by uid 500); 26 Feb 1998 15:56:20 -0000 Message-ID: <19980226105620.23306@blank.org> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:56:20 -0500 From: Lone Deranger To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] user logins under solaris 2.5.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Okay, straight away, I'm aware that this is in the FAQ. :) Unfortunately, the FAQ's advice appears not to have helped. I've compiled netatalk 1.4b2 under Solaris 2.5.1. It compiled and installed pretty cleanly. I can see the Solaris box in the chooser, and "guest" can log in. Unfortunately, actual users cannot. I've tried both with and without -DSHADOWPW in etc/afpd/Makefile, and this seems to make no difference. There is an /etc/shells file, and I've double-checked that the users' shells are in it. I built netatalk with the "solarisagain.diff" patch. There are no password-related errors at all in syslog, although I did get the following interesting tidbit at the time that I de-installed one build of the driver and installed a new one: Feb 25 22:24:02 dummy atalkd[21682]: route: 43 -> 23.123: No such file or directory Feb 25 22:24:02 dummy atalkd[21682]: as_down remove le0 23.2 failed: No such file or directory FWIW, the solaris box in question is an NIS client, getting its NIS maps from an NIS master running SunOS 4.1.4. Any insights would be appreciated! -Nathan J. Mehl memory@blank.org ------------------------------------------------------ Like an exterminator running low on dust, I'm / bug-powder itchin' and I can't be trusted. (--Bomb The Bass) ------------------------------------------ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 27 04:42:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA07894 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 04:42:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA07890 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 04:42:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA25416; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 04:41:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA25414 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 04:41:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from schubert.promo.de (schubert.Promo.DE [194.45.188.65]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA25410; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 04:41:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from stefan.promo.de (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA20190; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:38:39 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:42:30 +0100 From: "Stefan Bethke" To: wesley.craig@umich.edu, "Bill Studenmund" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Slow write performance on FreeBSD 2.2.5, 1.4b2 Message-ID: <79365.3097564950@stefan.promo.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry Demo (MacOS) [1.3.2, s/n Evaluation] X-Licensed-To: Unlicensed - for evaluation only MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --On Die, 24. Feb 1998 0:58 Uhr -0500 wesley.craig@umich.edu wrote: >> From: Bill Studenmund >> To: Gary Teter > >> On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Gary Teter wrote: >> > Someone suggested changing the definition of ddp_recvspace in >> > sys/netatalk/ddp_usrreq.c to a higher value, so I changed it to 50 * 600. > >> Doh! That kills my favorite suggestion! > > The normal value of ddp_recvspace, 10 * X, is enough for the eight > packets you'll get back from an ATP transaction, plus a couple more for > extra space. Each time this buffer is overflowed, there's a statistics > block that gets updated, ddps_nosockspace, which your favorite BSD unix > ought to return as output of netstat -s. > > Generally speaking, you should never see this... I thought this, too. Look at a packet dump and you'll see the finder is regularly checking (with AFP 2.1, that is) for volume and folder info, even while doing something else. Sometimes, these requests overflow the buffer, so upping this number to 20 or 30 generally helps. Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-18 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 27 04:52:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA08260 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 04:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA08256 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 04:51:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id EAA00102; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 04:51:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id EAA00100 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 04:51:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from schubert.promo.de (schubert.Promo.DE [194.45.188.65]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA29986 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 04:51:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from stefan.promo.de (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA20294; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:48:28 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:52:18 +0100 From: "Stefan Bethke" To: "Gary Teter" cc: "Bill Studenmund" , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Slow write performance on FreeBSD 2.2.5, 1.4b2 Message-ID: <114751.3097565538@stefan.promo.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry Demo (MacOS) [1.3.2, s/n Evaluation] X-Licensed-To: Unlicensed - for evaluation only MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --On Mon, 23. Feb 1998 13:47 Uhr -0800 "Bill Studenmund" wrote: > On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Gary Teter wrote: > >> I'm having troubles with my installation of netatalk-1.4b2 on FreeBSD >> 2.2.5: >> >> Read performance from the server is great, but write performance is >> really, really lousy. The client is a PowerMac 604e/200 clone, 10baseT >> network. (Actually on a large file it's great for the first 1.8MB or so, >> then it seems to pause for big chunks of time.) Sounds like you're running NT :-) Please be a bit more specific about what "slow" means. Generally, you should see numbers around 500 kBps for reading and 600 for writing. You can use Helios LanTest to check, available as ftp://ftp.helios.com/pub/utilities/LanTest-2.0.1.sea.hqx (also via AFP/TCP) Try the same from a terminal session using dd. Check what the server and the network are doing during these pouses. Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-18 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 27 05:37:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA24891 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 05:37:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA24886 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 05:37:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA29052; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 05:37:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA29050 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 05:37:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA29046 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 05:37:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id LAA27725; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 11:36:34 +0100 Message-ID: <34F69689.9F925A91@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 11:33:46 +0100 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lone Deranger , Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] user logins under solaris 2.5.1 References: <19980226105620.23306@blank.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Lone Deranger wrote: > Any insights would be appreciated! Please check the existence and permissions of the corresponding AppleVolumes files (AppleVolumes.system, AppleVolumes.default). [Is this in the FAQ?] Alternatively (if you don't want system-wide defaults) You might want to try to go only with .AppleVolumes in the users' home directories, but I don't see any reason for doing that. Hope this helps! Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 27 10:32:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA00791 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:32:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA00786 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA05329; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:32:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA05316 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:32:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id KAA05307 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:32:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from majink1.itc.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa17719; 27 Feb 98 10:32 EST Received: from majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU (majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU [128.143.12.118]) by majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA06298 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:31:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199802271531.KAA06298@majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:31:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert J. Marinchick" Reply-To: "Robert J. Marinchick" Subject: [netatalk-admins] A. Sun's netatalk- To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: DKjvVSqryUTHwAKseidu3w== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4c sparc Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm running netatalk-1.4b2 on a Solaris 2.6 box. I applied the patches "1.4b2-a18.diff, a18.1 & a18.2" to the netatalk-1.4b2.tar.Z module that i found at the u.wash site. All seems to be working properly, but we do have a problem with a flakey "finder" when using Mac OS8. Should I have applied the macos8 patch at "umich/netatalk" first? Is there a different patch I can apply now? Any suggestions? Thanks, Bob Marinchick From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 27 11:40:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA03266 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 11:40:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA03262 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 11:39:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA29988; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 11:39:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA29985 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 11:39:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from dallas-cs-000.novare.net (dallas-cs-000.novare.net [205.229.104.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA29977 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 11:39:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from novare.net (mark@muggles.novare.net [205.229.105.72]) by dallas-cs-000.novare.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05176; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:49:46 -0600 Message-ID: <34F6ECDB.45A658B0@novare.net> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 10:42:03 -0600 From: m* Organization: Horsemen Of The Digital Apocolypse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Robert J. Marinchick" CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] A. Sun's netatalk- References: <199802271531.KAA06298@majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Robert J. Marinchick wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running netatalk-1.4b2 on a Solaris 2.6 box. > > I applied the patches "1.4b2-a18.diff, a18.1 & a18.2" to the > netatalk-1.4b2.tar.Z module that i found at the u.wash site. All seems to > be working properly, but we do have a problem with a flakey "finder" when > using Mac OS8. Should I have applied the macos8 patch at "umich/netatalk" > first? Is there a different patch I can apply now? Any suggestions? yes. apply the patch and recompile. your "dancing icons" problem should be disappear. g.l., m* From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 27 13:54:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA09633 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 13:54:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA09626 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 13:53:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA09530 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 13:47:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA15708; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 13:47:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA15701 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 13:47:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from user.baden-online.de (user.baden-online.de [195.238.152.5]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA15543 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 13:47:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by user.baden-online.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id TAA11180 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 19:47:16 +0100 Received: from [192.168.59.2] (powermac.pocnet.net [192.168.59.2]) by leela.pocnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA16747 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 19:47:00 +0100 X-Sender: poc@leela.pocnet.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 19:41:43 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problem with Unix *LONG* names Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi there, the original 1.4b2 afpd seems to not truncate long filenames on Unix (Linux)= side to proper length of 32 Bytes for displaying on the Mac via AppleShare,= which responds in all favours of errors, beginning with -43 (fnf, harmless)= to complete freeze (Sys 7.5.5 and 7.6.1 tested). If anybody here would be so kind to show how to modify 1.4b2 afpd to support= simple truncation, here you can. ;-) I think simple truncation is okay, I never had files with the first 32 chars= unique. :wq! PoC(@pocnet.net) From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 27 16:43:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA17488 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 16:43:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA17482 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 16:43:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA17268 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 16:37:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA14767; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 16:37:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA14762 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 16:37:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from monoexpress.com ([207.202.60.219] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA14747 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 16:37:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from monoexpress.com (207.202.60.249) by monoexpress.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2); Fri, 27 Feb 1998 16:06:28 +0000 Message-ID: Date: 27 Feb 1998 15:38:31 -0500 From: "Tom Lockwood" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris Routing problems To: "Netatalk-Admins" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP for Quarterdeck Mail; Version 4.1.0 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello I am attempting to troubleshoot a routing problem with netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 running under Solaris 2.5.1 on a Sparc4 with a quad ethernet card installed (phew!). Initially I started the server with only the interface names in the atalkd.conf file: (comments deleted) qe0 qe1 qe2 After launch, the file had been re-written (correctly) like this: qe0 -phase 2 -net 100-101 -addr 100.157 -zone "Main Zone" qe1 -phase 2 -net 102-103 -addr 102.161 -zone "Accounting" qe2 -phase 2 -net 104-105 -addr 104.165 -zone "Demo Room" These zones are being seeded by an Apple router that I want to shut down. Believing everything was in order, I added the "-seed" option to each line, and shut down the Apple router. With both machines off, I had no zones. I started the Netatalk machine and the zones came back. Unfortunately, there does not appear to be any real routing going on. Macs see zones, but can not see anything outside of their own zone. Some devices did not show up at all. I turned off every machine in the building and restarted them again to no avail. I did some poking around to see what was happening and found something that did not seem right. The afp process on the Sun was using the last -addr listed in the atalkd.conf file, but was in the first listed zone. Even though the afpserver was in "Main Zone" it is using a network number for "Demo Room" as the output from nbplkup shows below. FileServer:AFPServer 104.165:128 FileServer:netatalk 104.165:4 FileServer:Workstation 104.165:4 If I am not mistaken, shouldn't this server be running as: FileServer:AFPServer 100.157:128 or something to that effect? On a hunch, I rearranged the lines in atalkd.conf as follows: qe1 -phase 2 -net 102-103 -addr 102.161 -zone "Accounting" qe2 -phase 2 -net 104-105 -addr 104.165 -zone "Demo Room" qe0 -phase 2 -net 100-101 -addr 100.157 -zone "Main Zone" That caused the file server to show up at address 100.157, but now in the Demo Room zone. Not that it seems to be my problem. I have since compiled the straight netatalk-1.4b2 version to see what that does. The results from nbplkup mirror what is described above, and the server seems to work OK. Routing however is still not happening. Am I missing something? Has anyone else used Sun's Quad ethernet card with netatalk? Sorry for all the questions. Tom Lockwood Monotype Systems Incorporated tom@monoexpress.com From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 27 18:15:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA20257 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 18:15:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA20250 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 18:15:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA11973; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 18:14:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA11970 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 18:14:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from winware.windowware.com (winware.windowware.com [206.63.11.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id SAA11960 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 18:14:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.0.1.6] by winware.windowware.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0y8Yxp-0000EvC; Fri, 27 Feb 98 15:13 PST Message-Id: Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Slow write performance on FreeBSD 2.2.5, 1.4b2 Date: Fri, 27 Feb 98 15:15:14 -0800 x-sender: garyt@mail.windowware.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: Gary Teter To: "Netatalk-Admins" cc: "Stefan Bethke" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Stefan Bethke , on 2/27/98 1:52 AM wrote: >--On Mon, 23. Feb 1998 13:47 Uhr -0800 "Bill Studenmund" > wrote: > >> On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Gary Teter wrote: >> >>> I'm having troubles with my installation of netatalk-1.4b2 on FreeBSD >>> 2.2.5: >>> >>> Read performance from the server is great, but write performance is >>> really, really lousy. The client is a PowerMac 604e/200 clone, 10baseT >>> network. (Actually on a large file it's great for the first 1.8MB or so, >>> then it seems to pause for big chunks of time.) > >Sounds like you're running NT :-) > >Please be a bit more specific about what "slow" means. Generally, you should >see numbers around 500 kBps for reading and 600 for writing. Sorry for the imprecision! I posted that at the end of a loooong day. Here's some better information: The machines: Morris - Pentium 166, 72MB RAM, FreeBSD 2.2.5 appletalk kernel patch, netatalk-1.4b2 no patches Lilith - PowerCenter Pro 210 Mhz 604e, 128MB RAM, 4096K disk cache, VM on, Sys8. BeastieBoy - APS 200 Mhz 604e clone, 128MB RAM, 7680K disk cache, VM on, Sys8. Jane - Quadra 605 (33 Mhz 680LC40), 36MB RAM, 7680K disk cache, VM off, Sys8, SpeedDoubler 8's speed copy server on. Using the same 47MB file for each test. 10baseT network. Morris, BeastieBoy and Jane are all on same hub; Lilith is on another hub uplinked to the first hub. There are other Macs on the network but none were being used during these tests (ie, personal filesharing on, drives mounted, but no files being actively read or written). (sd) means SpeedDoubler 8, faster network copy on, use tcp/ip if avail. on. Lilith copy from Lilith(sd) to Morris: 480KB/sec <-- this is OK! Lilith copy from Morris to Lilith(sd): 470KB/sec - 485KB/sec <-- so is this Lilith copy from Lilith(sd) to Jane: 215KB/sec - 250KB/sec <-- just for laughs Lilith copy from BeastieBoy(no sd) to Lilith(sd): 370KB/sec Lilith copy from Lilith(sd) to BeastieBoy(no sd): 410KB/sec Lilith copy from BeastieBoy(sd) to Lilith(sd): 640KB/sec BeastieBoy copy from Morris to BeastieBoy(sd): 520KB/sec - 570KB/sec So far all these figures are well within tolerance for not using TCP/IP. But this next one is the one I was asking about: --> BeastieBoy copy from BeastieBoy(sd) to Morris: Starts at 265KB/sec. After 1MB transferred, throughput drops to about 16KB/sec(!) Transfer seems to go in chunks separated by pauses. I observed this same behavior with SpeedDoubler 8 turned off (but without the throughput numbers because the standard Sys8 Finder copy doesn't give throughput values). By the way, using Timbuktu Pro 4.02's copy via TCP/IP, Lilith can read the same file from BeastieBoy at 970KB/sec - 1020KB/sec. Maybe when I get asun's patches running I'll see similar performance from Morris.... that's my next project. (The project after that is to install a 100baseT card in Morris and replace the hubs with a 10baseT+100baseT switch...) Any suggestions? I'll be rewiring the network this weekend and changing hubs around (because we're moving to a new office, not because I've got too much free time on my hands :-) so I'll see if that helps. -- Gary Teter, Landless Peasant Bulldog Beach Interactive http://www.bulldogbeach.com From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Feb 27 18:21:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA20638 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 18:21:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA20631 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 18:21:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA20836; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 18:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA20833 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 18:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from eug4ja.lane.edu (eug4ja.lane.edu [158.165.5.23]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA20821 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 18:21:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from 4j.lane.edu by 4j.lane.edu (PMDF V5.1-9 #27890) id <01IU2UXCT3W08WWYZ8@4j.lane.edu> for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 27 Feb 1998 15:20:53 PST Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 15:20:53 -0800 (PST) From: cupples_s@4j.lane.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] time out problme In-reply-to: <34F1D7B1.A9EA818C@mail.plymouth.edu> To: Casey Bisson Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 23 Feb 1998, Casey Bisson wrote: > I may have had a similar problem sometime ago. We were using an old 486 DX4100 > with a DEC EtherWorks 10bT adapter. > > When we fired netatlk up while on a network with a PowerBook, a hub, and the > netatlk server, it ran fine. But when we tried to integrate it with the rest of > the network, it was blind to the world. That is, IP services worked fine, but it > would not register itself as an AFP server. I can see the rest of the network, in both instances, but When it is off by its self with a mac and/or other random network hardware it just wont do it > We had our network engineer working on the problem, sniffing packets, and pulling > his hair out untill he turned around and said it was a systems problem. > > We tried all sorts of solutions: we started with the FreeBSD pkg, we downloaded > many different sources and compiled those. Reformat, reinstall. We tried asun's > patched sources, and IP only AFP services worked fine. We tried all this > repeatedly, and at the time, we kept good notes about what we tried, and how > miserably it failed. Boy this sounds way to fimiliar > We eventually gave up and ordered a fairlyy hopped up pentium machine to run WinNT > and use Microsoft's appleshare server for NT. I think I am going to insstall win NT on this box and DSBreeF on A k6 I just bought. > Just so that we could say we didn't give up without a fight, we intalled FreeBSD > and the netatalk pkg on the new machine. It ran beautifully, and still does. We've > upgraded to the asun patched version, and it runs well. What can I say that will > help you? Not much. The fact is, I didn't understand the problem and thus cannot > fathom the solution. I suppose that's why I believe in luck and other inexplicable > things. > Mainly, we blame the problems on the ethenet card. We've had problems with > EtherWorks cards in the past, and nobody from DEC was around to defend the card. > For the record, we are now running FreeBSD 2.2.5 on a Dell Optiplex 166MHz Pentium > with 80MB of RAM and a 3com 10/100 card. Unforutnatley It is not the card, sience your message I tried it with a ne2000 clone and a 3-com 509 card. I am beging to think it might be a mother bord promlme. Do you happen to know what mother board you had in that machine? Did you install of of a CD or Network connection? I have this real problme with just givin up, you understand. I have spent way to manny hours on this to just give up. Any advice you might have would be greatley appreicated. Shawn Cupples South Eugene High School (541) 687-3122 > > cupples_s@4j.lane.edu wrote: > > > I am running a FreeBSD box on a 486 120 w/ a DEC isa ether net card, when > > I have the box hooked up (and configed) at the school it works great. > > However when I take it home atalkd runs fine I can see other devices on > > the network and tell net form them to the box. But every time I try to > > regedter a device on the network it gives me a time out error. I am > > stumped. I have gone as far as to reformat and reinstall and it still > > dosen't work. If someone has any great advice PLEASE let me know. > > > > Thanks > > Shawn Cupples > > South Eugene High School > > (541) 687-3122 > > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Feb 28 02:52:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id CAA08602 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 02:52:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id CAA08598 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 02:52:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id CAA25078 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 02:52:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id CAA25075 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 02:52:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from hermes.nerosworld.com ([205.218.212.67]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id CAA25065 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 02:52:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from deperry@localhost) by hermes.nerosworld.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA06984; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 01:25:05 GMT Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 01:25:05 +0000 () From: David Perry To: "Robert J. Marinchick" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] HP III Text Printer In-Reply-To: <199802261343.IAA05423@majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Robert, YOu reference this as a text printer then as a postscript printer. The mac expects networked printers (those that are available through the laserwriter driver in the chooser) to be postscript devices, so we will look that way. The ppd for a printer should be located on each client macintosh in :System Folder:Extentions:Printer Descriptions: Pick the laserwriter (version 8.5.x is current) from the chooser, then click SETUP. If the printer (or print spooler) provided an intelligent response, the mac would auto-select the correct ppd. From there if it has not setup all the advanced options such as multilple trays, installed memory, there will be another button available if you click SETUP again. For the mac to be able to find the correct PPD it needs to have to correct name. This would be either the mac name or the short pc name, both of which can be found if your browse the ppd with a text editor. Hope this helps. David Perry On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Robert J. Marinchick wrote: > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 08:43:22 -0500 (EST) > From: Robert J. Marinchick > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Subject: [netatalk-admins] HP III Text Printer > > Hi, > > I've got Netatalk running on a Solaris IPC using 2.6. > > We've got a HPIII Text Printer sitting out on our network that we would > like to use as an Appletalk printer. Can we use this printer to print Mac > output if we have the correct .ppd file? > > The documentation "How to setup the printer using Appletalk" implies that > we can set this up as a locally attached printer (which seem to work, I > can print Post Script code on that printer). > > How do I setup the .ppd file? The documentation shows the .ppd resident > in a Unix directory. When I read the documentation at the Adobe URL it > looks as if it belongs on the Mac. > > Will this printer work with the proper .ppd, and how would I set it up? > > All comments are appreciated. > > Bob Marinchick > rjm8m@Virginia.Edu > From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Feb 28 16:44:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA02059 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 16:44:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA02055 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 16:44:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA12301 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 16:44:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA12299 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 16:44:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from bandit.metawire.com (bandit.metawire.com [204.80.114.68]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA12294 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 16:44:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.88.209.227] ([207.88.209.227]) by bandit.metawire.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14970 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 13:44:19 -0800 X-Sender: matt@mail2.metawire.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 13:44:14 -0800 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Matt Covey Subject: [netatalk-admins] Can't apply 8.0 patch to 1.4b2 src Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This may be a dumb question, but I just tried to apply the "MacOS8 compatibility issues/"dancing icons" & read-only file troubles" patch, located at http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk/patches/1.4b2/afpd-macos8.diff to my Netatalk 1.4b2 (Linux x86) source using the command: patch -p0 < patchfile in the top-level netatalk src directory (/usr/local/src/netatalk-1.4b2). I get this response: Hmm... Looks like a new-style context diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |*** etc/afpd/file.c- 1997/08/17 00:01:46 |--- etc/afpd/file.c 1997/08/20 22:39:08 -------------------------- Patching file etc/afpd/file.c using Plan A... Hunk #1 failed at 125. 1 out of 1 hunks failed--saving rejects to etc/afpd/file.c.rej Hmm... The next patch looks like a new-style context diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |*** etc/afpd/fork.c- 1997/08/17 00:01:46 |--- etc/afpd/fork.c 1997/08/26 03:50:24 -------------------------- Patching file etc/afpd/fork.c using Plan A... Hunk #1 failed at 95. Hunk #2 failed at 173. Hunk #3 failed at 323. Hunk #4 failed at 556. Hunk #5 failed at 650. Hunk #6 failed at 718. 6 out of 6 hunks failed--saving rejects to etc/afpd/fork.c.rej Hmm... Ignoring the trailing garbage. done Any hints on what I'm doing wrong? Thanks in advance, ++matt From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Feb 28 18:06:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA03473 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 18:06:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA03465 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 18:06:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA01103 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 15:24:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA26824 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 15:24:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA26814 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 15:24:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from jerseycape.com (mail.jerseycape.com [206.66.24.10]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id PAA26807 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 15:24:31 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 15:25:28 -0500 Received: from cyrix.homebrew [208.204.224.254] by jerseycape.com with smtp id APBJALFN ; Sat, 28 Feb 1998 15:25:12 -0500 Message-ID: <000601bd4486$7daf7880$fcfea8c0@cyrix.homebrew> From: "Ken McCord" To: Subject: Re:[netatalk-admins] Solaris Routing problems Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 15:21:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-user-defined" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Tom, The same thing is happening to me! I'm using RH Linux 5.0 (with 2.0.32 kernel) and netatalk-1.4b2 on a Compaq 486 with two Linksys NE2000 clones. I was going to try the asun patch, but if you're having problems, I guess I'll try 1.3.3. I'll let you know what happens... Ken -----Original Message----- From: Tom Lockwood To: Netatalk-Admins Date: Friday, February 27, 1998 4:07 PM Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris Routing problems >Hello > >I am attempting to troubleshoot a routing problem with >netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 running under Solaris 2.5.1 on a Sparc4 with a >quad ethernet card installed (phew!). Initially I started the server with only >the interface names in the atalkd.conf file: > >(comments deleted) >qe0 >qe1 >qe2 > >After launch, the file had been re-written (correctly) like this: > >qe0 -phase 2 -net 100-101 -addr 100.157 -zone "Main Zone" >qe1 -phase 2 -net 102-103 -addr 102.161 -zone "Accounting" >qe2 -phase 2 -net 104-105 -addr 104.165 -zone "Demo Room" > >These zones are being seeded by an Apple router that I want to shut down. >Believing everything was in order, I added the "-seed" option to each line, >and shut down the Apple router. With both machines off, I had no zones. I >started the Netatalk machine and the zones came back. Unfortunately, there >does not appear to be any real routing going on. Macs see zones, but can not >see anything outside of their own zone. Some devices did not show up at all. >I turned off every machine in the building and restarted them again to no >avail. > >I did some poking around to see what was happening and found something that >did not seem right. The afp process on the Sun was using the last -addr listed >in the atalkd.conf file, but was in the first listed zone. Even though the >afpserver was in "Main Zone" it is using a network number for "Demo Room" as >the output from nbplkup shows below. > > FileServer:AFPServer 104.165:128 > FileServer:netatalk 104.165:4 > FileServer:Workstation 104.165:4 > >If I am not mistaken, shouldn't this server be running as: > FileServer:AFPServer 100.157:128 >or something to that effect? On a hunch, I rearranged the lines in >atalkd.conf as follows: > >qe1 -phase 2 -net 102-103 -addr 102.161 -zone "Accounting" >qe2 -phase 2 -net 104-105 -addr 104.165 -zone "Demo Room" >qe0 -phase 2 -net 100-101 -addr 100.157 -zone "Main Zone" > >That caused the file server to show up at address 100.157, but now in the Demo >Room zone. Not that it seems to be my problem. I have since compiled the >straight netatalk-1.4b2 version to see what that does. The results from >nbplkup mirror what is described above, and the server seems to work OK. >Routing however is still not happening. > >Am I missing something? >Has anyone else used Sun's Quad ethernet card with netatalk? > >Sorry for all the questions. > >Tom Lockwood >Monotype Systems Incorporated >tom@monoexpress.com > From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 2 04:20:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA15508 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 04:20:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA15504 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 04:20:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA28528 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 04:20:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA28526 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 04:20:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from schubert.promo.de (schubert.Promo.DE [194.45.188.65]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA28518 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 04:20:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from stefan.promo.de (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA04087; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:17:05 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 10:21:07 +0100 From: "Stefan Bethke" To: "Gary Teter" cc: Netatalk-Admins Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Slow write performance on FreeBSD 2.2.5, 1.4b2 Message-ID: <37645.3097822867@stefan.promo.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry Demo (MacOS) [1.3.2, s/n Evaluation] X-Licensed-To: Unlicensed - for evaluation only MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --On Fre, 27. Feb 1998 15:15 Uhr -0800 "Gary Teter" wrote: > So far all these figures are well within tolerance for not using TCP/IP. > But this next one is the one I was asking about: > > --> BeastieBoy copy from BeastieBoy(sd) to Morris: > Starts at 265KB/sec. After 1MB transferred, throughput drops to about > 16KB/sec(!) Transfer seems to go in chunks separated by pauses. I > observed this same behavior with SpeedDoubler 8 turned off (but without > the throughput numbers because the standard Sys8 Finder copy doesn't give > throughput values). Problem in the network cabling or one of the hubs, I guess. > Any suggestions? I'll be rewiring the network this weekend and changing > hubs around (because we're moving to a new office, not because I've got > too much free time on my hands :-) so I'll see if that helps. Thats probably a good idea. Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-18 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 2 06:42:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA03446 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 06:42:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA03442 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 06:42:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA01098 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 06:42:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA01095 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 06:42:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from schubert.promo.de (schubert.Promo.DE [194.45.188.65]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA01080 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 06:42:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from stefan.promo.de (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA04530; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 12:39:06 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 12:43:08 +0100 From: "Stefan Bethke" To: "Matt Covey" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Can't apply 8.0 patch to 1.4b2 src Message-ID: <550329.3097831388@stefan.promo.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry Demo (MacOS) [1.3.2, s/n Evaluation] X-Licensed-To: Unlicensed - for evaluation only MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --On Sam, 28. Feb 1998 13:44 Uhr -0800 "Matt Covey" wrote: > This may be a dumb question, but I just tried to apply the "MacOS8 compatibility issues/"dancing icons" & read-only file troubles" patch, located at http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk/patches/1.4b2/afpd-macos8.diff > to my Netatalk 1.4b2 (Linux x86) source using the command: Make sure to download it "binary". I. e. in Navigator, use "Save Link as" from the pop-up menu (or Shift-click the link). Then, do $ cd netatalk-1.4b2 $ patch Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA28823 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:58:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA28817 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:58:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA28728 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:49:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA11745 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:49:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA11742 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:49:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.roadrunner.com (internet.roadrunner.com [198.59.109.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA11728 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 22:49:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (dial224.roadrunner.com [198.59.109.224]) by internet.roadrunner.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA06809 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:53:30 -0700 (MST) X-Sender: etgold@198.59.109.7 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:55:59 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Ethan Gold Subject: [netatalk-admins] tkchooser network browser update Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Greetings again. I'm happy to announce the next snapshot of tkchooser, the MacOS chooser-like appletalk and smb network browsing utility. Thanks to those of you brave enough to try it the first time around and help me squash some bugs. This release features increased robustness, greater configurability, and the first working smb plugin. The LaserWriter plugin now supports a printing filter as well. The CHANGES file which accompanies the package details the update. Again, tkchooser can be found at: http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~etgold/chooser.html Thanks. -Ethan --------------------------------------------------- | Ethan Gold, Vassar College class of '97 | | http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~etgold/ | |---------------------------------------------------| | UGS Research Assistant | | Nonproliferation and International Security | | Los Alamos National Laboratory, Los Alamos, NM | --------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 3 03:21:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id DAA09818 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 03:21:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA09814 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 03:21:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA09815 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 03:21:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA09813 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 03:21:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (colossus.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.202]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA09808 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 03:21:32 -0500 (EST) From: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za Received: from localhost (jon@localhost) by colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA05053; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:22:52 +0200 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:22:51 +0200 (SAT) To: Ethan Gold cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] tkchooser network browser update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ahem. the 203 archive on your web page says this: bash# tar tf *.tar bash# it's empty. ____________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick jon@cs.wits.ac.za, +27 11 716-3783 Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand Web site, ftp site and listserv all available at: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/ On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Ethan Gold wrote: > Greetings again. > I'm happy to announce the next snapshot of tkchooser, the MacOS > chooser-like appletalk and smb network browsing utility. > Thanks to those of you brave enough to try it the first time around and > help me squash some bugs. This release features increased robustness, > greater configurability, and the first working smb plugin. The LaserWriter > plugin now supports a printing filter as well. The CHANGES file which > accompanies the package details the update. > Again, tkchooser can be found at: > http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~etgold/chooser.html > Thanks. > > > -Ethan > > > --------------------------------------------------- > | Ethan Gold, Vassar College class of '97 | > | http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~etgold/ | > |---------------------------------------------------| > | UGS Research Assistant | > | Nonproliferation and International Security | > | Los Alamos National Laboratory, Los Alamos, NM | > --------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 3 10:52:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA04711 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:52:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA04696 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:52:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA24461 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:52:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA24453 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:52:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from typeline.com (www.typeline.com [209.116.143.131]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA24443 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:52:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from typeline.com (typeline.com [209.116.143.131]) by typeline.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA04535 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:51:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from web@typeline.com) Message-ID: <34FC2703.41C67EA6@typeline.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 10:51:31 -0500 From: Typeline Webmaster Organization: Typeline, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk Volume size restriction? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm running Netatalk 1.4b2 under FreeBSD 2.2.5. It all works very well except for one little problem. I've dedicated a Unix partition (/u1) 5.9gigs as a Netatalk AppleVolume. It mounts fine but only shows 1.1 gig available on my Macs (Sys 7.5.3 and sys 8). Are there any volume size restrictions or limits under Netatalk? Thank You, Bob Badaracco From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 3 12:44:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA09141 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:44:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA09133 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA12437 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:44:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA12435 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:44:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pycckuu.org (evil-empire.student.umd.edu [129.2.238.77]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA12420 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:44:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from [129.2.238.77] by pycckuu.org with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2); Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:45:04 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:45:01 -0500 To: , From: "Owen E. Ward" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.6 x86 and Netatalk? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello! I am a newbie at this so any info you guys can provide will be greatly appreciated. I've found that asking before one does something is usually the best route, since others out there have gone through the same problems before, and figured them out, so they can be of invaluable assistance. So here're the questions: I have a Solaris 2.6 x86 box, and I was wondering if anyone has successfully run netatalk on it? If so, what version? What is the best version to run (i.e., the latest beta or the latest release version)? What patches do I need to apply to netatalk to make it work with OS 8 and 8.1 Macs (only 8 and 8.1 machines will be connecting to this box, so no worries about System 6 or 7)? What other patches should I apply to netatalk for general operations? Has there been any problems compiling netatalk to work on Solaris x86? Again, any help, comments, suggestions or insights sent directly to my e-mail address would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Sincerely, Owen Ward o w e n e . w a r d e - m a i l w e b s i t e http://www.pycckuu.org/ v o i c e (301) 254-0278 c a m p u s (301) 314-4046 f a c s i m i l e (301) 314-9841 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 3 14:25:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA12817 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:25:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA12796 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:25:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA21718 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:25:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA21716 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:25:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id OAA21678 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:25:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18787; Tue, 3 Mar 98 19:24:54 GMT Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:23:53 GMT From: John Barry -Technician Received: from tom (tom.tees) by scorch; Tue, 3 Mar 98 19:20:01 GMT Date: Tue, 3 Mar 98 19:19:48 GMT Message-Id: <16314.9803031919@tom> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: 1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 compile problem. Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folks, I posted late last week about being unable to compile afpd from the asun18.2 distribution on a SunOS 4.1.4 box. The problem is apparenlty due to libatalk/compat/inet_aton.c This file isn't detailed enough, if you delete it and replace it with: ftp.maths.tcd.ie:/src/eoin-tmp/guile/guile-1.2/libguile/inet_aton.c then, as if by magic it will compile, link and run as God intended :) The one slight kink is that you'll have to compile that particular file with gcc (cc doesn't like it...) Do a full make, when it dies in etc/afpd trying to run the linker, cd to libatalk, delete the archive (*.a) files, replace compat/inet_aton.c and compile with gcc -c -O5 inet_aton.c then cd back to the root of the distribution and run make again. Simple eh? Thanks for the pointers Adrian :) later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 3 17:21:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA23341 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:21:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA23336 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:21:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA14733 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:21:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA14731 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:21:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA14720 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:21:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id XAA16729 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:21:17 +0100 Message-ID: <34FC81CD.9CB4F46F@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 23:18:53 +0100 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk list Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: Can't apply patch... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu People unable to apply e.g. the afpd-macos8.diff to netatalk-1.4b2 should try to upgrade their 'patch' binary. The latest one seems to be patch-2.5 available from the standard GNU mirror sites. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 3 17:57:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA24567 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:57:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA24559 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:57:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA24414 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:50:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA09453 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:50:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA09451 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:50:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA09440 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:50:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA26915; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:49:55 GMT Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:49:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Nico Lumma cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] routing? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At present netatalk will only route between AppleTalk networks that are directly connected to the machine it is running on. It cannot do AppleTalk-in-IP tunnelling. However if you use Adrian Sun's version of netatalk in conjunction with version 3.7 or newer of the AppleShare extension then you can enter the IP address of the machine you want to connect to in the Mac Chooser and connect over TCP-IP with no appletalk involved. On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Nico Lumma wrote: > Hi, > > thanks to numerous suggestions I was able to solve my first problem > (multiple logins under different names...), now here's another problem: > > I want to access not only my server, but also any other netatalk server > taht is behind that server and the firewall. We are using a private > network and therefore ip-masquerading. > How does that work? Do the apple-talk-packets get encapsulated by > ip-packets and then travel through the net, or are they just "plain" > apple-talk-packets, who can't get through routers and the like? > > I am living at a big German university campus and we are trying to connect > our dorms to the net and want to share as much as possible between the > different buildings across town. And since Samba makes it possible to > access Windoze PCs on other networks, I want to do the same with > appletalk... > > Thanks again, > > Nico > > -------- > Nico Lumma > nico@goe.net > 0551-47417 > 0177-2924424 > -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 4 05:01:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA15708 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 05:01:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA15703 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 05:01:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA13790 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:55:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id AAA16250 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:55:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id AAA16248 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:55:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.roadrunner.com (internet.roadrunner.com [198.59.109.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA16239 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:55:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (dial248.roadrunner.com [198.59.109.248]) by internet.roadrunner.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13458; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:55:24 -0700 (MST) X-Sender: etgold@198.59.109.7 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:02:20 -0700 To: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za, netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Ethan Gold Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] tkchooser network browser update Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >ahem. the 203 archive on your web page says this: Ack! I got several reports of this. Sorry for the mixup. It turns out that the web server was misparsing the filename extensions due to the three dots in the name. The name has been changed and everything seems to be in order now. Please try again. http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~etgold/chooser.html -Ethan --------------------------------------------------- | Ethan Gold, Vassar College class of '97 | | http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~etgold/ | |---------------------------------------------------| | UGS Research Assistant | | Nonproliferation and International Security | | Los Alamos National Laboratory, Los Alamos, NM | --------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 4 05:06:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA15863 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 05:06:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA15857 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 05:06:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA24259 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 05:06:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA24257 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 05:06:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (colossus.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.202]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA24249 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 05:06:21 -0500 (EST) From: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za Received: from localhost (jon@localhost) by colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA07380; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:07:47 +0200 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:07:46 +0200 (SAT) To: Ethan Gold cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] tkchooser network browser update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ok, i got it and it shows the items correctly (it's much slower at seeing network devices than a mac, any idea why?) - BUT now it won't let me do anything. it comes up with an error which seems related to grafx when i try, say, mount a mac. ____________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick jon@cs.wits.ac.za, +27 11 716-3783 Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand Web site, ftp site and listserv all available at: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 4 06:56:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA03472 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:56:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA03468 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:55:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA02500 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:55:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA02498 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:55:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg (ts900-7313.singnet.com.sg [165.21.165.129]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA02493 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 06:55:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (khoogc@localhost) by daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA01946 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:59:15 +0800 X-Authentication-Warning: daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg: khoogc owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:59:15 +0800 (SGT) From: KHOO Guan Chen X-Sender: khoogc@daisy To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] make of netatalk failed Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I have RH 4.2 with kernel 2.0.32 Recently, when I tried to compile netatalk-1.4b2.0a18.2, make failed with the error: unix.c:63: sys/quota.h : No such file or directory. I have commented out DESDIR=/usr/local in the Makefile before issuing make. I have also edited sys/linux/Makefile, changing the line #-DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER to "DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER=", but I still get the same error. Where have I gone wrong? The only quota.h file I can see is in /usr/src/linux/include/linux/quota.h Thanks Richard KHOO Guan Chen e-mail: khoogc@singnet.com.sg snail-mail: 38-A, Lorong 23, Geylang, Singapore 388372 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 4 07:03:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA04025 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:03:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA04020 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:03:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA03138 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:03:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA03135 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:03:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (colossus.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.202]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA03131 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:03:21 -0500 (EST) From: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za Received: from localhost (jon@localhost) by colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA00587; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:04:28 +0200 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:04:28 +0200 (SAT) To: KHOO Guan Chen cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] make of netatalk failed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu it must be -DNEED etc ____________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick jon@cs.wits.ac.za, +27 11 716-3783 Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand Web site, ftp site and listserv all available at: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/ On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, KHOO Guan Chen wrote: > > Hi, > > I have RH 4.2 with kernel 2.0.32 > > Recently, when I tried to compile netatalk-1.4b2.0a18.2, make failed with > the error: > unix.c:63: sys/quota.h : No such file or directory. > > I have commented out DESDIR=/usr/local in the Makefile before issuing > make. I have also edited sys/linux/Makefile, changing the line > #-DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER to "DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER=", but I still get > the same error. > > Where have I gone wrong? The only quota.h file I can see is in > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/quota.h > > Thanks > > Richard KHOO Guan Chen > e-mail: khoogc@singnet.com.sg > snail-mail: 38-A, Lorong 23, Geylang, Singapore 388372 > From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 4 14:18:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA15124 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:18:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA15117 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:18:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA13790 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:55:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id AAA16250 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:55:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id AAA16248 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:55:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from internet.roadrunner.com (internet.roadrunner.com [198.59.109.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA16239 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 00:55:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (dial248.roadrunner.com [198.59.109.248]) by internet.roadrunner.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13458; Tue, 3 Mar 1998 22:55:24 -0700 (MST) X-Sender: etgold@198.59.109.7 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:02:20 -0700 To: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za, netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Ethan Gold Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] tkchooser network browser update Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >ahem. the 203 archive on your web page says this: Ack! I got several reports of this. Sorry for the mixup. It turns out that the web server was misparsing the filename extensions due to the three dots in the name. The name has been changed and everything seems to be in order now. Please try again. http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~etgold/chooser.html -Ethan --------------------------------------------------- | Ethan Gold, Vassar College class of '97 | | http://www.cs.vassar.edu/~etgold/ | |---------------------------------------------------| | UGS Research Assistant | | Nonproliferation and International Security | | Los Alamos National Laboratory, Los Alamos, NM | --------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 4 16:11:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA19280 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:11:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA19271 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:11:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA19125 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:07:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA10662 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:07:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA10660 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:07:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from forest.icast.com (forest.icast.com [209.1.118.2] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA10655 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:07:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by forest.icast.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA28805; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:35:32 -0800 Received: from apache.icast.com(192.168.20.10) by forest.icast.com via smap (V2.0) id xma028799; Wed, 4 Mar 98 13:35:16 -0800 Received: from icast.com (geronimo.internal.icast.com [192.168.20.151]) by apache.internal.icast.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13452; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:06:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34FDC245.C728C60A@icast.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 13:06:13 -0800 From: Peter Tebault Organization: ICAST Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KHOO Guan Chen CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] make of netatalk failed References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The error is in the file /etc/afpd/unix.c, on line 63. Change: #include to: #include Just a typo on someone's part, forgetting where quota.h is and that we're still in an ifdef for linux. -Pete- KHOO Guan Chen wrote: > Hi, > > I have RH 4.2 with kernel 2.0.32 > > Recently, when I tried to compile netatalk-1.4b2.0a18.2, make failed with > the error: > unix.c:63: sys/quota.h : No such file or directory. > > I have commented out DESDIR=/usr/local in the Makefile before issuing > make. I have also edited sys/linux/Makefile, changing the line > #-DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER to "DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER=", but I still get > the same error. > > Where have I gone wrong? The only quota.h file I can see is in > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/quota.h > > Thanks > > Richard KHOO Guan Chen > e-mail: khoogc@singnet.com.sg > snail-mail: 38-A, Lorong 23, Geylang, Singapore 388372 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 4 16:23:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA19929 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:23:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA19922 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:23:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA17414 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:23:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA17402 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:23:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from web6.maikon.net (web6 [208.234.72.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA17387 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:23:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from [165.134.104.131] (macrh2.slu.edu [165.134.104.131]) by web6.maikon.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA02599 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:22:44 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199803042122.PAA02599@web6.maikon.net> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Multi-zone routing Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:23:24 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Hans Gerwitz To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Please read patiently, I don't want to leave anything out: I've just put into production a FreeBSD 2.2.5 box (Dell Dimension 486) with netatalk 1.4b2 (no patches). This machine has three network cards (3Com 509b), one to our 'backbone' and the others to subnets. TCP/IP gateway functions are working flawlessly. I've commented out the two lines in the startup script for afpd and papd, as I am only routing on this machine. atalkd.conf is as follows: ep0 -phase 2 -net 20 -addr 20.10 -zone "slu" -zone "ACAD" -zone "SLU MED" ep1 -seed -phase 2 -net 2557 -addr 2557.1 -zone "RH_LAB" ep2 -seed -phase 2 -net 2444 -addr 2444.1 -zone "MATH_CS" Note that the first interface, ep0, is the backbone card and is auto-configuring wonderfully. The problem: AppleTalk routing appears to work flawlessly from the subnets. A machine in zone RH_LAB, for example, has no trouble seeing items in MATH_CS or any other zone. >From outside these subnets, though, NBP registration is flakey for the zones defined for the subnets (RH_LAB and MATH_CS). Selecting one of these zones from any machine outside the subnets may or may not list devices contained within. Note that the zones are always available, just not their contents. Leaving the chooser open, one can watch the devices occasionally appear, only to later disappear. Leaving machines side-by-side (both physically and network-wise) on the chooser, you will see only one see into the zones, while the other still cannot. Once a connection is established with a device, however, it is reliable. Said another way: NBP registration for seeded networks does not reliably broadcast to the non-seed backbone, but is reliable on that and other seeded nets. Finally, some possibly relevant information. I am getting frequent syslog errors from atalkd that read: "rhrouter atalkd[160]: as_timer sendto: Network is unreachable" These come in spurts of about 6 every 20 minutes or so. As I write this, I just received a number of these messages from atalkd: "rhrouter atalkd[160]: nbp brrq sendto 22921.0: No buffer space available" There were many of these, each for a different network number (all to the .0 broadcast), but not one for every network number on our net. I should note that our AppleTalk network here is a mess, with many, many Novell servers that have been improperly set up to seed the backbone, and to define zones, even though they do not have subnets (some of these had subnets that have been removed, most were simply copied from existing misconfigured servers from admin that don't know any better.) The router I've described, though, is the only one experiencing this problem, and the Novell-based one it replaced did not experience this, using the same network numbers in the same location. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Hans Gerwitz gerwitzh@slu.edu Academic Computing Development, Information Technology Services Saint Louis University From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 4 17:37:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA25408 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:37:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA25396 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:37:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA12128 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:36:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA12126 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:36:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from cimteg.cimtegration.com (cimteg.cimtegration.com [199.246.8.18]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA12121 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:36:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from cimteg.cimtegration.com (cimteg.cimtegration.com [199.246.8.18]) by cimteg.cimtegration.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/cimteg $Revision: 1.11 $) with SMTP id RAA11091 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:27:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:27:21 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Mansell To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] ASIP? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I may have missed info. on this before, but does anyone know if there's plans to support ASIP in netatalk? Or does it already? From what I've read, a new layer called DSI interfaces AFP to TCP/IP, and totally skips DDP, ASP, and ATP. -- /\ Michael G. Mansell, BSc. (SCS) Office: (416) 665-0767 x228 /\ \ Engineering Support Services clearNET:(416) 984-7839 /\ \ \ DataVation Inc., Toronto Fax: (416) 665-8285 / \ \ \ WWW.DataVation.COM Email: MikeM@DataVation.COM From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 4 19:27:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA28382 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:27:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA28376 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:27:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA26657 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:05:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA19971 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:05:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA19968 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:05:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA19954 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:05:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from saul4.u.washington.edu (asun@saul4.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.2]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA26892; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:05:34 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by saul4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) id PAA07420; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:05:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:05:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803042305.PAA07420@saul4.u.washington.edu> From: a sun To: petert@icast.com CC: khoogc@singnet.com.sg, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <34FDC245.C728C60A@icast.com> (message from Peter Tebault on Wed, 04 Mar 1998 13:06:13 -0800) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] make of netatalk failed Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The error is in the file /etc/afpd/unix.c, on line 63. Change: #include to: #include Just a typo on someone's part, forgetting where quota.h is and that we're still in an ifdef for linux. actually, it isn't a typo. i'm getting slightly ticked that people don't seem to read the README files and assume it's a bug when they have problems. if you look carefully, you actually need -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER in the CFLAGS for older linux distributions. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 4 20:30:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA29948 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:30:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA29944 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:29:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA09513 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA09511 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:29:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from typeline.com (www.typeline.com [209.116.143.131]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA09507 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:29:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from typeline.com (usr3-13.pat.nj.webspan.net [206.154.92.69]) by typeline.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA03883 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:54:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from web@typeline.com) Message-ID: <34FDF6A7.2E3C5CDB@typeline.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 19:49:43 -0500 From: Webmaster X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] afpd free space calculations... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Today I applied the patch that fixes the afpd freespace calculations for the 1.4b2 version of Netatalk. The 6 gig partition that I've dedicated to an afp volume showed 1.1 gig before the patch was applied and 1.9 gig after. Has anyone else running Netatalk with FreeBSD 2.2.5 been seeing the same thing? Is there a cap in afp on the disk quota it can show? Bob Badaracco From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 4 20:50:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA00953 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:50:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA00941 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:49:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id UAA00489 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:35:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id UAA00486 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:35:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA00479 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:35:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803050135.UAA00479@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: netatalk@umich.edu To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] afpd free space calculations... In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 04 Mar 1998 19:49:43 EST." <34FDF6A7.2E3C5CDB@typeline.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 20:35:47 -0500 X-Sender: epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Webmaster > Today I applied the patch that fixes the afpd freespace calculations for > the 1.4b2 version of Netatalk. > The 6 gig partition that I've dedicated to an afp volume showed 1.1 gig > before the patch was applied and > 1.9 gig after. Has anyone else running Netatalk with FreeBSD 2.2.5 been > seeing the same thing? Is there a cap in afp on the disk quota it can > show? To quote from one of Leland's posts to Linux-atalk: This used to be in the FAQ. (or at least one of the FAQs) AFP 2.1 has a maximum volume size of 2^32 or 4 Gigs. The Finder shipped with Systems prior to 7.5 could only handle 2 Gig volumes, so most AFP servers clip the free & total bytes to 2 Gigs. Systems 7.5 to 7.6 can handle 4 Gig volumes System 7.6 and later can handle larger volumes. AFP 2.2 has a maximum volume size of 2^64 or some godawful large number of Terabytes. AppleShare Client 3.7.2 and later will handle large volumes on System 7.6 and later, though full support is only present on OS 8.1. (the VCB was correct but some of the API calls didn't return the large values). Hope this helps Leland Wallace AppleShare IP Client Lead [ this will make it to the faq, maintenant. -evan ] From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 4 21:10:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA01923 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:10:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA01919 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:10:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA02902 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:10:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA02897 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA02890 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:10:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA06904; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:01:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from UNKNOWN(), claiming to be "current1.whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd006902; Wed Mar 4 18:01:04 1998 Message-ID: <34FE0664.167EB0E7@whistle.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:56:52 +0800 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hans Gerwitz CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Multi-zone routing References: <199803042122.PAA02599@web6.maikon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hans Gerwitz wrote: > > Please read patiently, I don't want to leave anything out: > > Said another way: NBP registration for seeded networks does not reliably > broadcast to the non-seed backbone, but is reliable on that and other > seeded nets. > > Finally, some possibly relevant information. I am getting frequent > syslog errors from atalkd that read: > "rhrouter atalkd[160]: as_timer sendto: Network is unreachable" > > These come in spurts of about 6 every 20 minutes or so. > > As I write this, I just received a number of these messages from atalkd: > "rhrouter atalkd[160]: nbp brrq sendto 22921.0: No buffer space available" > > There were many of these, each for a different network number (all to the > .0 broadcast), but not one for every network number on our net. I should > note that our AppleTalk network here is a mess, with many, many Novell > servers that have been improperly set up to seed the backbone, and to > define zones, even though they do not have subnets (some of these had > subnets that have been removed, most were simply copied from existing > misconfigured servers from admin that don't know any better.) The router > I've described, though, is the only one experiencing this problem, and > the Novell-based one it replaced did not experience this, using the same > network numbers in the same location. > > Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. I did the kernel port of the netatalk stack. Unfortunatly we don;t have a sufficiently comprehensive atalk network here however for me to test some of the more complicated scenarios. Some part that I think may be broken... 1/ handling some loopback situations 2/ handling some broadcast situations. don;t know enough about the higher level protocols to be able to guess what is wrong and am hoping that people such as yourself will be able to give mem good descriptions of what is not If I can get good descriptions, e.g. "loopback packets to my own atalk address do not get back to me" tehn I can fix them (this was actually the case in 2.2.5 without the patches in the 2.2.5 erratum page). you DID apply those patches to 2.2.5 right? julian From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 5 07:14:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA04974 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:14:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA04968 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:14:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA15004 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:14:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA15001 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:14:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg (ts900-4732.singnet.com.sg [165.21.155.84]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA14991 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 07:14:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (khoogc@localhost) by daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA00777; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:17:29 +0800 X-Authentication-Warning: daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg: khoogc owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:17:28 +0800 (SGT) From: KHOO Guan Chen X-Sender: khoogc@daisy Reply-To: KHOO Guan Chen To: a sun cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] make of netatalk failed In-Reply-To: <199803042305.PAA07420@saul4.u.washington.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, a sun wrote: > The error is in the file /etc/afpd/unix.c, on line 63. > > Change: > #include > > to: > #include > > Just a typo on someone's part, forgetting where quota.h is and that we're > still in an ifdef for linux. > > actually, it isn't a typo. i'm getting slightly ticked that people > don't seem to read the README files and assume it's a bug when they > have problems. if you look carefully, you actually need > -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER in the CFLAGS for older linux distributions. Ahem. Actually I did check the READMEs that is why I mentioned I changed the line about DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER. Ok. I have now tried changing the line #-DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER to a) -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER= B) -NEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER= (line 54 in unix.c?) C) NEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER= and I still get the error about needing sys/quota.h. I must be doing something stupidly wrong (I know nuts about programming), but I cannot see what. I guess the last thing to try is to take out the ifdef/else, but I am worried I may screw up something else. Further help appreciated. Thanks Richard KHOO Guan Chen e-mail: khoogc@singnet.com.sg snail-mail: 38-A, Lorong 23, Geylang, Singapore 388372 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 5 09:32:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA07437 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:32:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA07433 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:32:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA17544 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:32:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA17538 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from web6.maikon.net (web6 [208.234.72.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA17531 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:32:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from [165.134.104.131] (macrh2.slu.edu [165.134.104.131]) by web6.maikon.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA12716; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:31:55 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199803051431.IAA12716@web6.maikon.net> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Multi-zone routing Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:32:36 -0600 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Hans Gerwitz To: "Julian Elischer" cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Hans Gerwitz wrote: >> >> Please read patiently, I don't want to leave anything out: >> > >> Said another way: NBP registration for seeded networks does not reliably >> broadcast to the non-seed backbone, but is reliable on that and other >> seeded nets. >> >> Finally, some possibly relevant information. I am getting frequent >> syslog errors from atalkd that read: >> "rhrouter atalkd[160]: as_timer sendto: Network is unreachable" >> >> These come in spurts of about 6 every 20 minutes or so. >> >> As I write this, I just received a number of these messages from atalkd: >> "rhrouter atalkd[160]: nbp brrq sendto 22921.0: No buffer space available" >> >> There were many of these, each for a different network number (all to the >> .0 broadcast), but not one for every network number on our net. I should >> note that our AppleTalk network here is a mess, with many, many Novell >> servers that have been improperly set up to seed the backbone, and to >> define zones, even though they do not have subnets (some of these had >> subnets that have been removed, most were simply copied from existing >> misconfigured servers from admin that don't know any better.) The router >> I've described, though, is the only one experiencing this problem, and >> the Novell-based one it replaced did not experience this, using the same >> network numbers in the same location. >> >> Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. > >I did the kernel port of the netatalk stack. >Unfortunatly we don;t have a sufficiently comprehensive atalk network >here however for me to test some of the more complicated scenarios. >Some part that I think may be broken... > >1/ handling some loopback situations >2/ handling some broadcast situations. > > > don;t know enough about the higher level protocols to be >able to guess what is wrong and am hoping that people such as >yourself will be able to give mem good descriptions of what is not >If I can get good descriptions, >e.g. "loopback packets to my own atalk address do not get back to me" >tehn I can fix them (this was actually the case in 2.2.5 without the >patches in the 2.2.5 erratum page). > >you DID apply those patches to 2.2.5 right? No, I probably didn't! I don't recall finding any patches when I first set up this machine (a while back). I feel like an idiot, but will apply those tonight and let the list know if that solves my problem. If not, I will attempt to narrow down the cause of the problem on the low-level protocol end. Thanks for the response, . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Hans Gerwitz gerwitzh@slu.edu Academic Computing Development, Information Technology Services Saint Louis University From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 5 15:45:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA18872 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:45:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA18862 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:45:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA14460 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:03:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA17913 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:03:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA17906 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:03:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from user.baden-online.de (user.baden-online.de [195.238.152.5]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA17892 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:03:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by user.baden-online.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id UAA23876 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:03:08 +0100 Received: from [192.168.59.2] ([192.168.59.2] (may be forged)) by leela.pocnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA16754 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:51:49 +0100 X-Sender: poc@leela.pocnet.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:39:08 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: [netatalk-admins] Routing between LocalTalk and EtherTalk Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I've a known issue of a routing failure between LocalTalk and EtherTalk: >From EtherTalk, I can see all LocalTalk devices, but there's no real data exchange, I get timeout-messages indicating this if I will print to a printer or make an afp connection to a FileSharing machine. >From LocalTalk I cannot see any device on EtherTalk. I use the LocalTalk driver from Bradford W. Johnson which works well now. Communications between the Linux Box and LocalTalk devices work very fine! A few lines to my setup: leela:/root # cat /proc/version Linux version 2.0.33 (root@dx4.pingnet.de) (gcc version 2.7.2) #5 Sun Feb 1 11:56:24 MET 1998 leela:/root # cat /usr/local/etc/atalkd.conf eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 13-20 -addr 19.1 -zone "Ether" ltalk0 -seed -phase 1 -net 21 -addr 21.1 -zone "Local" leela:/root # nbplkup QMS-Spool:LaserWriter 21.1:129 leela:AFPServer 21.1:130 Laser bei Nebe:LaserWriter 21.1:128 leela:netatalk 21.1:4 leela:Workstation 21.1:4 powermac: Power Macintosh 16.1:252 powermac:Workstation 16.1:4 leela:/root # nbplkup @Local QMS-PS 410:LaserWriter 21.176:128 leela:/root # cat /proc/net/atalk_iface Interface Address Networks Status ltalk0 0015:01 0015-0015 0 eth0 0013:01 000D-0014 0 lo 0000:00 0000-0000 0 leela:/root # cat /proc/net/atalk_route Target Router Flags Dev 0015:01 0000:00 5 lo 0015:00 0015:01 1 ltalk0 0013:01 0000:00 5 lo 0014:00 0013:01 1 eth0 0013:00 0013:01 1 eth0 0012:00 0013:01 1 eth0 0011:00 0013:01 1 eth0 0010:00 0013:01 1 eth0 000F:00 0013:01 1 eth0 000E:00 0013:01 1 eth0 000D:00 0013:01 1 eth0 0000:00 0000:00 5 lo I do now know much about AppleTalk routing, but why will 15:01 go via lo? I shut down lo to correct the routes: leela:/root # cat /proc/net/atalk_route Target Router Flags Dev 0015:00 0015:01 1 ltalk0 0014:00 0013:01 1 eth0 0013:00 0013:01 1 eth0 0012:00 0013:01 1 eth0 0011:00 0013:01 1 eth0 0010:00 0013:01 1 eth0 000F:00 0013:01 1 eth0 000E:00 0013:01 1 eth0 000D:00 0013:01 1 eth0 But I cannot send data to LocalTalk devices. Who can help me? I worked around this with printing over a papd-spooler, but this is not possible with HP DeskWriter. :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 5 20:48:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA24731 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:48:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA24718 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:48:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA23808 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:10:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA28036 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:10:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA28033 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:10:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from forest.icast.com (forest.icast.com [209.1.118.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA28016 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:10:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by forest.icast.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA11469; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:38:52 -0800 Received: from apache.icast.com(192.168.20.10) by forest.icast.com via smap (V2.0) id xma011465; Thu, 5 Mar 98 16:38:51 -0800 Received: from icast.com (geronimo.internal.icast.com [192.168.20.151]) by apache.internal.icast.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21249; Thu, 5 Mar 1998 16:10:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34FF3ECC.F4B23483@icast.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 16:09:48 -0800 From: Peter Tebault Organization: ICAST Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: a sun CC: khoogc@singnet.com.sg, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] make of netatalk failed References: <199803042305.PAA07420@saul4.u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu a- Excuse me, you are correct (of course). I did not check properly in the README.LINUX file. It compiled fine after I added that line to the DEFS= line. -Pete- a sun wrote: > The error is in the file /etc/afpd/unix.c, on line 63. > > Change: > #include > > to: > #include > > Just a typo on someone's part, forgetting where quota.h is and that we're > still in an ifdef for linux. > > actually, it isn't a typo. i'm getting slightly ticked that people > don't seem to read the README files and assume it's a bug when they > have problems. if you look carefully, you actually need > -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER in the CFLAGS for older linux distributions. > > -a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 6 13:03:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA06041 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:03:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA06027 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:03:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA27623 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 06:57:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA08384 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 06:57:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA08382 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 06:57:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailout05.btx.dtag.de (mailout05.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.153]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id GAA08378 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 06:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd02.btx.dtag.de (fwd02.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.162]) by mailout05.btx.dtag.de with smtp id 0yAvjK-0005PA-00; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:55:58 +0100 Received: from pc19f8ae2.dip.t-online.de (065927493-0004(btxid)@[193.159.138.226]) by fwd02.btx.dtag.de with smtp id ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:55:47 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <34FF3ECC.F4B23483@icast.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] make of netatalk failed Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:55:48 +0100 Message-ID: <1d5gz7s.13x1c1e1i4mjcwM@pc19f8ae2.dip.t-online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: MacSOUP D-2.3 (unregistered for 43 days) X-Sender: 065927493-0004@t-online.de From: 065927493-0004@t-online.de (Stefan Barth) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! First of all, a big THANK YOU to the people who write and continuously improve great software such as netatalk! The following is for the benefit of folks like me, who need to be told step-by-step what to do.=20 > Recently, when I tried to compile netatalk-1.4b2.0a18.2, make failed with > the error: > unix.c:63: sys/quota.h : No such file or directory. > I have commented out DESDIR=3D/usr/local in the Makefile before issuing > make. I have also edited sys/linux/Makefile, changing the line > #-DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER to "DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER=3D", but I still get > the same error. > Where have I gone wrong? The only quota.h file I can see is in > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/quota.h I=B4ve had the same problem and followed this thread with great interest. I=B4m not a programmer and find even the READMEs quite difficult at times. Today the patched netatalk (netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2.tar) finally compiled and is running on my machine - the dancing icons are gone, too! So here=B4s exactly what I did: Makefile in the root directory of netatalk: ---snip--- # Location of the DES library and include files. Comment this out if you # don't want Randnum Exchange and 2-Way Randnum Exchange as allowable UAMs=20 # for afpd. We expect libdes.a in $DESDIR/lib and des.h in $DESDIR/include. # DESDIR=3D/usr/local # Location of the tcp wrapper library and include files. Comment this out # if you don't want tcp wrapper support. having tcp wrapper support is # highly recommended. TCPWRAPDIR=3D/usr # Location of PAM support library and include files. Comment this out # if you don't want to enable PAM support # PAMDIR=3D/usr ---snip--- (At first errors came from a missing des.h file and missing pam-something-or-other files) Makefile in sys/linux: # Linux specific defines, passed to subdirectories. #-DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER=20 DEFS=3D -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER=20 OPTOPTS=3D -O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized #OPTOPTS=3D -g -fsigned-char CC=3D gcc=20 INSTALL=3D install # if you aren't using pam and are using glibc, you'll need to add -lcrypt AFPLIBS=3D =20 ADDLIBS=3D ---snip--- (If using glibc, I imagine you=B4d need to put AFPLIBS=3D -lcrypt) Makefile in etc/afpd: ---snip--- CFLAGS=3D ${DEFS} ${AFSDEFS} ${KRBDEFS} ${DESDEFS} ${OPTOPTS} ${INCPATH} \ ${PAMDEFS} -DAPPLCNAME -DCRLF -DSHADOWPW # -DDOWNCASE ---snip--- (This enables shadow password support, which I need here. Without, I could only log into the linux server as guest) Hope this helps! Stefan Barth From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 6 18:21:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA14310 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 18:21:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA14306 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 18:21:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA19298 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 18:21:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA19296 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 18:21:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from sparty.cecom.com (creative.cecom.com [208.202.113.128]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA19287 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 18:21:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from cecom.com ([172.28.1.39]) by sparty.cecom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id AAA5B8D for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 18:15:42 -0500 Message-ID: <350084FD.5A265F32@cecom.com> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 18:21:33 -0500 From: "Sean A. Snyder" Organization: Campbell-Ewald Advertising X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk vs. commercial products Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Greetings! I've been lurking on the list here for a while, and figured that I'd finally post.... Hopefully this posting won't start a flamewar... I'm really curious to hear about people's experiences with netatalk in a 300+ user "mission-critical" commercial/production near-24x7 environment. I'm also wondering what experiences people have had with various commercial products that do roughly the same thing as netatalk. In reading the netatalk web page, I was slightly disheartened to read the following in regards to the pending release of 1.4b3: "The solaris kernel module is rewritten, eliminating many routing problems and kernel panics." Can anyone shed any light on the kernel panic problem with Solaris and version 1.4b2? How serious is it, etc? FYI: At present, I'm using Information Presentation Technologies' (www.iptech.com) "uShare" product to share files from my 3 Sun Sparc1000E servers to about 150 macs/server. Each of these servers has 50-70 gig of disk hung off of them. Version 4.1f of their product worked just find under Solaris 2.5.1. For a variety of reasons, I needed to upgrade to Solaris 2.6, which in-turn forced me to upgrade to uShare 5.0, which is the biggest P.O.S. i've ever seen. It has crashed one of my servers at LEAST once a day for the past week. Also, I'm using Samba to share these files to our few PCs, and it is the coolest thing since sliced bread. We are, however, running into issues with the PCs not knowing the file-type/creator information due to their reliance on *.doc style extensions. I've spent some time evaluating Syntax's TotalNet Advanced Server, which allows me to share the same files to both Macs and PCs. I liked the web-based admin interface it has (allows me to offload some of my responsibility on the junior admins), but I'm just not happy with their support (or lack thereof), nor an I happy with all of the orphan processes it creates. This is especially problematic these orphans are considered "active connections", and the product refuses logins when you have exceeded your licensed number of connections. Plus, it's REALLY REALLY REALLY 'spensive, IMHO. Thanks in advance! Sean -- ___________________________________________ Sean A. Snyder (ssnyder@cecom.com) \ Strange but not a stranger Systems Administrator \ I'm an ordinary guy... Campbell-Ewald Advertising/C-E Communications\_________________________ ***** All opinions are mine and mine only ... yadda yadda yadda ***** From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 6 23:16:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id XAA20643 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:16:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA20635 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id XAA26041 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:13:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id XAA26039 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:13:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp14.netcom.com [163.179.3.18]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA25757 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:11:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id UAA19071 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:10:55 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <00001509.sm@h-e.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Running multiple afpd's Date: Fri, 6 Mar 98 19:21:21 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Cc: bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 1440 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:10 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have netatalk 1.4b2 + asun 18.2 up and running fine on a RedHat Linux 5.0 system. However I need to have "TEXT" file translation active on some volumes but not others. The only choice seems to be compiling afpd with or without -DCRLF, which turns translation on/off globally. So my idea is, compile it both ways, and run two different afpd's at the same time. Obviously one would have a different name (like afpd.text) and would use a different port number, server name, etc., and the startup/shutdown script would have to be messed with, but I can deal with all that. The question is, is there going to be some "hidden" conflict like both processes trying to write to a config file or something? Or is there a better way to do this?? Any comments would be greatly appreciated! Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com The world's most boring .sig From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Mar 8 20:48:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA19652 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 20:48:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA19647 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 20:48:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA19285 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 20:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id UAA23903 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 20:32:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id UAA23901 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 20:32:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.club-internet.fr (mail.club-internet.fr [194.158.96.21]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA23879 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 20:32:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from club-internet.fr (root@ppp-116-214.villette.club-internet.fr [194.158.116.214]) by mail.club-internet.fr (8.8.8/MGC-970630-No_Relay) with ESMTP id CAA04875 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 02:32:19 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <35034673.BA33F93D@club-internet.fr> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 02:31:31 +0100 From: Philippe Mourey Organization: Home X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.18 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Printing from Linux to MacOS StyleWriter Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------1C48CFDFE0776D2A5CB81781" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1C48CFDFE0776D2A5CB81781 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I'm new with Netatalk. I was looking for a method to be able to use my Apple Color StyleWriter on my PC (I mean on Linux). I tried CopsTalk: worked fine for NFS but as Windows 95 doesn't include any driver, it didn't work for printing. I succeeded to configure my printer in MkLinux. It worked great and became a Postscript printer. I failed to make rlpr work in Linux . And I doubt about configuring a lpd spooler to work with my mklinux spooler, but I might be wrong. Then I tried netatalk even if I didn't see any discussion about my printer. Well, I'm not sure the installation process was all right. Anyway, I installed atalkd, papd, afpd and added the services tcpmux, rtmp,nbp,echo. I can access Unix volumes from MacOS (via AppleVolumes.system) in guest (Read Only). I can see all my appletalk devices (see at the end of this document with atalkd.conf) with nbplkup. But I cannot access to my apple printer with pap or papstatus (nbp lookup failed). I have loaded the afpfs and appletalk module (and AppleTalk DDP compiled as a module in kernel) Well, I guess I have failed one installation procedure or chosen a wrong package?... My list of package is: netatalk-1.3.3.tar.gz afpfs.tar.gz (March 4, 58533bytes) Linux Intel 2.0.18 Thanks (and sorry for the size of my message...) Philippe Mourey. mailto:pmourey@club-internet.fr --------------1C48CFDFE0776D2A5CB81781 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="lookup" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="lookup" intel:AFPServer 65280.34:130 intel:LaserWriter 65280.34:128 intel:netatalk 65280.34:4 intel:Workstation 65280.34:4 ApplePrinter:ColorStyleWriter2400 65280.1:254 powerpc:AFPServer 65280.1:253 powerpc: Power Macintosh 65280.1:250 powerpc:Workstation 65280.1:4 --------------1C48CFDFE0776D2A5CB81781 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="atalkd.conf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="atalkd.conf" eth0 -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -addr 65280.34 --------------1C48CFDFE0776D2A5CB81781-- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 9 00:50:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id AAA01425 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 00:50:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA01421 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 00:50:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id AAA07144 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 00:50:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id AAA07142 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 00:50:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA07138 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 00:50:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-4.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.4]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA06472 for ; Sun, 8 Mar 1998 22:49:29 -0800 Message-Id: <199803090649.WAA06472@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Red Hat 5.0/Netatalk 1.4/asun's afp/tcp patches Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 21:48:14 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mail-atalk To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Tried installing asusn's patched Netatalk (a18), but ran into errors when trying to compile. Tried to apply the Red Hat 5.0 patches, but they wouldn't apply (probably because of asun's patches in the files). Bummer, eh? Can anyone help, since this kind of troubleshooting is beyond me. Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 9 05:13:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA04467 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 05:13:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA04463 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 05:12:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id FAA29258 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 05:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id FAA29256 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 05:12:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from prawn.amxdigital.com (dns0.amxdigital.com [195.238.161.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id FAA29248 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 05:12:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from phong.amxdigital.com by prawn.amxdigital.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id DAA05820; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 03:04:34 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980309101228.00686fd8@amxdigital.com> X-Sender: jon@amxdigital.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 10:12:28 +0000 To: From: Jonathan Peterson Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Red Hat 5.0/Netatalk 1.4/asun's afp/tcp patches In-Reply-To: <199803090649.WAA06472@nucleus.fizbin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 09:48 PM 3/8/98 -0800, mail-atalk wrote: >Tried installing asusn's patched Netatalk (a18), but ran into errors when >trying to compile. > >Tried to apply the Red Hat 5.0 patches, but they wouldn't apply (probably >because of asun's patches in the files). > >Bummer, eh? Give up on patches, I did. You can get the full source, with latest asun patches from the asun place. Or you can mail me and I'll send you my tar.gz file. I've heard the patches require the very tippy top latest release of the 'patch' program, which is why people struggle to get them working. Anyway, if you download the complete patched source tree and re-compile you should be OK. Warning. There seemed to be more 'fluff' in the makefile for the asun version, which is to say I had to comment out more stuff than usual before it compiled :-) I think it defaults to yes for some of the encryption options, which you may not have libs for (I didn't). -------- Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 Internet Developer Death is a gladsome wedding for us. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 9 06:33:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA21342 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 06:33:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA21338 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 06:33:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id GAA05698 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 06:33:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id GAA05696 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 06:33:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg (ts900-6825.singnet.com.sg [165.21.164.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA05691 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 06:32:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (khoogc@localhost) by daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA00416 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:36:36 +0800 X-Authentication-Warning: daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg: khoogc owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:36:36 +0800 (SGT) From: KHOO Guan Chen X-Sender: khoogc@daisy Reply-To: KHOO Guan Chen To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] No response from server Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Arrrgh. I need more help. On the mac, when I selected chooser and AppleShare, the linux box name comes up. When I select it and click open, I get a dialog saying: No response from server. Please try again. On the linux box, I get these messages in /var/log/messages afpd(210): refused connect for 192.168.0.2 afpd(210): dsi_getsess: unknown error (or after a few tries) afpd(210): dsi_getsess: Interrupted system call. 192.168.0.2 is the address I give to the mac. ifconfig shows big numbers for RX and TX, but 0 for dropped, errors and overruns. I think the mac is detected since /proc/net/arp shows it. Thanks. Sorry, but I can't find any references to dsi_getsess Richard KHOO Guan Chen e-mail: khoogc@singnet.com.sg snail-mail: 38-A, Lorong 23, Geylang, Singapore 388372 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 9 09:52:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA25796 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:52:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA25790 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:52:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA13909 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:52:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA13895 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from phoenix.datrix.co.za (phoenix.datrix.co.za [196.37.220.5]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA13881 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:51:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from phoenix.datrix.co.za (phoenix.datrix.co.za [196.37.220.5]) by phoenix.datrix.co.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA21448 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:55:17 +0200 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:55:17 +0200 (SAT) From: Jason Armstrong To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and FreeHand7 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi I am having a problem with netatalk and FreeHand7. I am using netatalk-1.4b2-1 which I installed on my Linux box (RedHat4.2) using the netatalk rpm. From the Mac side, the files can be written across to the Linux machine, but they can't be opened again, the files seem to be corrupt. This doesn't seem to be happening with FreeHand5 files, only with the FreeHand7 ones. Are there any patches that I should apply, or does anyone have any other ideas here? tia. -jason ---------------------------------------- www.dart.co.za www.datrix.co.za From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 9 10:59:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA29006 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:59:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA29001 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:59:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA00337 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:59:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA00326 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:59:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA00310 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:59:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-91.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.91]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA13287; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 08:57:27 -0800 Message-Id: <199803091657.IAA13287@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Red Hat 5.0/Netatalk 1.4/asun's afp/tcp patches Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 07:56:09 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mail-atalk To: "Jonathan Peterson" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Give up on patches, I did. You can get the full source, with latest asun >patches from the asun place. Well, that is exactly the problem, since the release of Red Hat 5.0 requires some *additional* patches to be applied to netatalk, in order to compile. *THAT* is the problem I encountered, I think, and I'm not sure if asusn's patches already include that fix. >Or you can mail me and I'll send you my tar.gz Got the file from asuns' site already - that's the one I'm having trouble with. >Warning. There seemed to be more 'fluff' in the makefile for the asun I thought I got rid of that all, but I'll check again, and post my error results. Thanks for the help, Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 9 14:55:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA10796 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:55:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA10789 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 14:55:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA06846 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:13:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA20201 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:13:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA20198 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:13:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA20188 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:13:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from saul7.u.washington.edu (asun@saul7.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.2]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA10630; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:13:31 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by saul7.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) id KAA08149; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:13:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:13:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803091813.KAA08149@saul7.u.washington.edu> From: a sun To: khoogc@singnet.com.sg CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from KHOO Guan Chen on Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:36:36 +0800 (SGT)) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] No response from server Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu afpd(210): refused connect for 192.168.0.2 afpd(210): dsi_getsess: unknown error (or after a few tries) afpd(210): dsi_getsess: Interrupted system call. umm, read the first line. the rest are sort of erroneous as a consequence. it looks like you're running with tcp wrappers and aren't allowing connections from your host. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 9 16:33:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA15304 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:33:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA15291 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:33:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA15930 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:33:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA15903 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:33:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from exchangesb1.sacbee.com (exchangesb1.sacbee.com [204.86.242.33]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA15863 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:33:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by exchangesb1.sacbee.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:36:46 -0800 Message-ID: <7D2DB75529B6D111B6550000F8076A0B01C462@exchangesb1.sacbee.com> From: Marc Matteo To: "'mail-atalk'" Cc: "'netatalk-admins@umich.edu'" Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] Red Hat 5.0/Netatalk 1.4/asun's afp/tcp pa tches Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:36:45 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu What "additional" patches are you talking about? I have netatalk1.4b2asun18.2 running just fine on a RedHat 5 box. And for that matter... what fluff? Marc Matteo Web Engineer, The Sacramento Bee http://www.sacbee.com > ---------- > From: mail-atalk > Sent: Monday, March 9, 1998 7:56 AM > To: Jonathan Peterson; netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Red Hat 5.0/Netatalk 1.4/asun's > afp/tcp patches > > >Give up on patches, I did. You can get the full source, with latest > asun > >patches from the asun place. > > Well, that is exactly the problem, since the release of Red Hat 5.0 > requires some *additional* patches to be applied to netatalk, in order > to > compile. *THAT* is the problem I encountered, I think, and I'm not > sure > if asusn's patches already include that fix. > > >Or you can mail me and I'll send you my tar.gz > > Got the file from asuns' site already - that's the one I'm having > trouble > with. > > >Warning. There seemed to be more 'fluff' in the makefile for the asun > > I thought I got rid of that all, but I'll check again, and post my > error > results. > > Thanks for the help, > > Harry > From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 9 16:37:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA15678 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:37:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA15661 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:37:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA15126 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:29:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA12569 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:29:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA12559 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:29:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from typeline.com (www.typeline.com [209.116.143.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA12504 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:29:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from typeline.com (typeline.com [209.116.143.131]) by typeline.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA11977 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:28:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from web@typeline.com) Message-ID: <35045F19.41C67EA6@typeline.com> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 16:28:57 -0500 From: Typeline Webmaster Organization: Typeline, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and volume size calculations... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've been posting to this list during the past couple of weeks about a nagging problem with respect to afpd calculating and sending volume size info to the Macintosh that's greater than 2 gigs in size. A few of the responses I've received point to the fact that previous incarnations of the Mac OS couldn't mount large volumes. While this is true with early versions of System 7, 7.5.3 through 8 have no trouble mounting larger volumes 2 gigs and over. We're running Power Mac's on our network running 7.5.3 to 8.1. We're also running a Novell AFP server that lets us mount over 4 gigs on each Mac. So the problem isn't in the current releases of the Mac client OS's. It's Netatalk. After looking at the Netatalk source (volume.c, unix.c and afpd-bfree.diff, the latest patch) it's clear the server can't mount anything larger than 2147483647 bytes (0x7fffffff). This and a possible case of integer overflow in volume.c seem to be putting a ceiling on volume size. Has anybody hacked or fixed this code so bigger volumes can be mounted? This is very frustrating... Bob Badaracco From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 9 18:31:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA20860 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:31:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA20855 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:31:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA00472 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:31:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA00470 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:31:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA00433 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:31:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id PAA17671; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:31:18 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <0000151E.sm@h-e.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and volume size calculations... Date: Mon, 9 Mar 98 15:15:01 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: web@typeline.com (Typeline Webmaster) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 1911 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:31 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Systems after 7.5.3 can handle volumes up to 4GB, but AppleShare volumes bigger than 2GB require a newer version of the AppleShare client to work properly, the AppleShare client 3.6.x that came with Systems 7.5.3 and 7.5.5 won't cut it. There is an upgrade to AppleShare client 3.7.2 somewhere on the Apple web pages (sorry, don't remember the exact URL) and using this allows 4GB volumes on Systems 7.5.3 and later. Volumes >4GB still require System 7.6 or later. The AppleShare 3.7.2 client also does ASIP, so if you're using the asun patched netatalk you get the advantage of TCP/IP connections (they seem faster than DDP connections, but I might just be imagining this). Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com ______________________________________________ Original message sent on Mon, Mar 9 1:28 PM by web@typeline.com (Typeline Webmaster) : To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and volume size calculations... I've been posting to this list during the past couple of weeks about a nagging problem with respect to afpd calculating and sending volume size info to the Macintosh that's greater than 2 gigs in size. A few of the responses I've received point to the fact that previous incarnations of the Mac OS couldn't mount large volumes. While this is true with early versions of System 7, 7.5.3 through 8 have no trouble mounting larger volumes 2 gigs and over. We're running Power Mac's on our network running 7.5.3 to 8.1. We're also running a Novell AFP server that lets us mount over 4 gigs on each Mac. So the problem isn't in the current releases of the Mac client OS's. It's Netatalk. After looking at the Netatalk source (volume.c, unix.c and afpd-bfree.diff, the latest patch) it's clear the server can't mount anything larger than 2147483647 bytes (0x7fffffff). This and a possible case of integer overflow in volume.c seem to be putting a ceiling on volume size. Has anybody hacked or fixed this code so bigger volumes can be mounted? This is very frustrating... Bob Badaracco From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 9 18:32:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA20910 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA20900 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:32:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA00746 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:32:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA00738 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:32:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA00727 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id PAA17685; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:31:27 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <0000151D.sm@h-e.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Red Hat 5.0/Netatalk 1.4/asun's afp/tcp patches Date: Mon, 9 Mar 98 15:08:39 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: mail-atalk@fizbin.com (mail-atalk) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 1860 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:31 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu What's this about Red Hat 5.0 patches?? I'm running 1.4b2+asun on a RedHat 5.0 system with no (apparent) problem, and I didn't apply any patches at all, just used the asun files directly. Where did you get the Red Hat 5.0 patches and what are they supposed to accomplish? Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com ______________________________________________ Original message sent on Mon, Mar 9 7:56 AM by mail-atalk@fizbin.com (mail-atalk) : To: jon@amxdigital.com (Jonathan Peterson), netatalk-admins@umich.edu Re: [netatalk-admins] Red Hat 5.0/Netatalk 1.4/asun's afp/tcp patches >Give up on patches, I did. You can get the full source, with latest asun >patches from the asun place. Well, that is exactly the problem, since the release of Red Hat 5.0 requires some *additional* patches to be applied to netatalk, in order to compile. *THAT* is the problem I encountered, I think, and I'm not sure if asusn's patches already include that fix. >Or you can mail me and I'll send you my tar.gz Got the file from asuns' site already - that's the one I'm having trouble with. >Warning. There seemed to be more 'fluff' in the makefile for the asun I thought I got rid of that all, but I'll check again, and post my error results. Thanks for the help, Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 9 19:06:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA22642 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:06:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA22638 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:06:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA09207 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:06:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA09204 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:06:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA09196 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:06:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-37.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.37]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA26077 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:06:01 -0800 Message-Id: <199803100106.RAA26077@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Red Hat 5.0 patches explained... Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:04:40 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mail-atalk cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The netatalk HOWTO by Anders had a mention of Red Hat 5.0 requiring patches in order to compile properly. The relevant information is here: From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 9 19:11:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA23102 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:11:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA23089 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:11:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA12020 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:11:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA12014 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:11:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA12010 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:11:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id BAA07990 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:11:26 +0100 Message-ID: <35048499.9802A673@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 01:08:57 +0100 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and FreeHand7 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello Jason, Jason Armstrong wrote: > I am having a problem with netatalk and FreeHand7. I am using > netatalk-1.4b2-1 which I installed on my Linux box (RedHat4.2) using > the netatalk rpm. From the Mac side, the files can be written across > to the Linux machine, but they can't be opened again, the files seem > to be corrupt. This doesn't seem to be happening with FreeHand5 files, > only with the FreeHand7 ones. Are there any patches that I should > apply, or does anyone have any other ideas here? What happens if You save a file from FreeHand 7 locally, then copy the file to the Linux machine, copy it back, and then try to open it? What, if You save locally, then copy to the Linux, the open it from there? If both of these works, You seem to be caught by CR/LF conversion conspiring with a 'buggy' FreeHand 7. Remedy: compile netatalk without CR/LF conversion, and see (and report back, please) if Your problems persist. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 9 19:13:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA23350 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:13:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA23332 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:13:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA22877 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:09:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA13284 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:09:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA13282 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:09:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA13277 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:09:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-37.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.37]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA26115 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:08:57 -0800 Message-Id: <199803100108.RAA26115@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Red Hat 5.0 compile errors... Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:07:36 -0800 x-sender: sf-harry@fizbin.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Here's a dump of the errors I get that prevent me from compiling netatalk on my Red Hat 5.0 installation. The problem seems to be loclized in quota support: ----- make[4]: Entering directory `/home/harry/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/etc/afpd' gcc -O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized -I../../include -DAPPLCNAME -DCRLF -c unix.c -o unix.o In file included from /usr/include/sys/quota.h:2, from unix.c:63: /usr/include/linux/quota.h:113: parse error before `__u32' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:113: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/linux/quota.h:114: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:115: parse error before `dqb_curblocks' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:115: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:116: parse error before `dqb_ihardlimit' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:116: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:117: parse error before `dqb_isoftlimit' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:117: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:118: parse error before `dqb_curinodes' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:118: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:121: parse error before `}' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:138: parse error before `__u32' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:138: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/linux/quota.h:139: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:140: parse error before `reads' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:140: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:141: parse error before `writes' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:141: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:142: parse error before `cache_hits' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:142: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:143: parse error before `pages_allocated' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:143: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:144: parse error before `allocated_dquots' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:144: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:145: parse error before `free_dquots' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:145: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:146: parse error before `syncs' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:146: warning: data definition has no type or storage class unix.c: In function `uquota_getvolspace': unix.c:313: storage size of `dqblk' isn't known unix.c:313: warning: unused variable `dqblk' unix.c: In function `overquota': unix.c:340: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type unix.c:340: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type unix.c:352: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type unix.c:352: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type make[4]: *** [unix.o] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/harry/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/etc/afpd' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/harry/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/etc/afpd' make[2]: *** [afpd] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/harry/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/etc' make[1]: *** [../../etc] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/harry/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/sys/linux' make: *** [all] Error 2 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 9 20:51:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA26663 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:51:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA26658 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:51:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id UAA14717 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:51:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id UAA14714 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:51:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA14704 for ; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 20:51:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id RAA22140; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:51:12 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <00001525.sm@h-e.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Red Hat 5.0 compile errors... Date: Mon, 9 Mar 98 17:47:43 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: harry@spotfans.com (Harry) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 2099 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:51 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I looked at the RH5.0 patch file from Anders' site, and I don't think it has anything to do with the problem you are having. It appears to me that except for adding "-lcrypt" to LIBS and "-DSHADOWPW" to CFLAGS in the etc/afpd/Makefile, the patch doesn't do anything that isn't already dealt with by the asun patches, so the fact that you can't apply it shouldn't really matter. If you are using PAM, I think the crypt library and shadow password thingys are irrelevant, if you aren't using PAM you can just add those defs to the Makefile by hand. The actual problem you are having with quota.h is something else entirely. I recall there was a discussion of this on the list, maybe it was last week, sorry I didn't pay real close attention because for whatever reason I don't have that problem (I compiled 1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 on RH5.0 with no errors). I do remember something about needing to add "-DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER" to the Makefile, did you try that? Maybe someone else can shed more light, or maybe it's in the FAQ. Hope this helps! Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com ______________________________________________ Original message sent on Mon, Mar 9 4:07 PM by harry@spotfans.com (Harry) : cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu [netatalk-admins] Red Hat 5.0 compile errors... Here's a dump of the errors I get that prevent me from compiling netatalk on my Red Hat 5.0 installation. The problem seems to be loclized in quota support: ----- make[4]: Entering directory `/home/harry/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/etc/afpd' gcc -O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized -I../../include -DAPPLCNAME -DCRLF -c unix.c -o unix.o In file included from /usr/include/sys/quota.h:2, from unix.c:63: /usr/include/linux/quota.h:113: parse error before `__u32' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:113: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/linux/quota.h:114: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:115: parse error before `dqb_curblocks' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:115: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:116: parse error before `dqb_ihardlimit' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:116: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:117: parse error before `dqb_isoftlimit' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:117: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:118: parse error before `dqb_curinodes' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:118: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:121: parse error before `}' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:138: parse error before `__u32' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:138: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/linux/quota.h:139: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:140: parse error before `reads' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:140: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:141: parse error before `writes' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:141: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:142: parse error before `cache_hits' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:142: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:143: parse error before `pages_allocated' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:143: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:144: parse error before `allocated_dquots' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:144: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:145: parse error before `free_dquots' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:145: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/include/linux/quota.h:146: parse error before `syncs' /usr/include/linux/quota.h:146: warning: data definition has no type or storage class unix.c: In function `uquota_getvolspace': unix.c:313: storage size of `dqblk' isn't known unix.c:313: warning: unused variable `dqblk' unix.c: In function `overquota': unix.c:340: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type unix.c:340: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type unix.c:352: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type unix.c:352: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type make[4]: *** [unix.o] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/harry/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/etc/afpd' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/harry/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/etc/afpd' make[2]: *** [afpd] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/harry/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/etc' make[1]: *** [../../etc] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/harry/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/sys/linux' make: *** [all] Error 2 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 10 04:49:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA17287 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 04:49:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA17283 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 04:48:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id EAA06716 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 04:48:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id EAA06714 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 04:48:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from phoenix.datrix.co.za (phoenix.datrix.co.za [196.37.220.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA06680 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 04:48:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from phoenix.datrix.co.za (phoenix.datrix.co.za [196.37.220.5]) by phoenix.datrix.co.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA28099; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:44:29 +0200 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:44:29 +0200 (SAT) From: Jason Armstrong To: Andras Kadinger cc: Netatalk list Subject: [netatalk-admins] thanks .. atalkd startup In-Reply-To: <35048499.9802A673@freeside.elte.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello Andras Thanks for the help, I think it was the CRLF issue that you mentioned. I installed netatalk at first using the RedHat rpm, but went and got the source last night and recompiled commenting out the -DCRLF option ... it seems to be going ok now. Something else which puzzles me is the nbprgstr and nbpunrgstr programs, I had to restart my whole computer before it seemed to register, I can't just stop and restart the atalkd as I would normally expect using linux. It is S91atalkd in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d. I read in one of the HOW-TOs that this should be started before networking, which is S10network. This is a little problematic when administering from a remote site, I need to reboot the machine, something I have come to expect from Windows but not from Linux. Or am I getting it wrong? Thanks. -jason ---------------------------------------- www.dart.co.za www.datrix.co.za On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Andras Kadinger wrote: >Hello Jason, > >Jason Armstrong wrote: >> I am having a problem with netatalk and FreeHand7. I am using >> netatalk-1.4b2-1 which I installed on my Linux box (RedHat4.2) using >> the netatalk rpm. From the Mac side, the files can be written across >> to the Linux machine, but they can't be opened again, the files seem >> to be corrupt. This doesn't seem to be happening with FreeHand5 files, >> only with the FreeHand7 ones. Are there any patches that I should >> apply, or does anyone have any other ideas here? > >What happens if You save a file from FreeHand 7 locally, then copy the >file to the Linux machine, copy it back, and then try to open it? What, >if You save locally, then copy to the Linux, the open it from there? > >If both of these works, You seem to be caught by CR/LF conversion >conspiring with a 'buggy' FreeHand 7. Remedy: compile netatalk without >CR/LF conversion, and see (and report back, please) if Your problems >persist. > >Sincerely, >Andras Kadinger >bandit@freeside.elte.hu > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 10 05:33:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA20030 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:33:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA19985 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:33:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id FAA10121 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id FAA10116 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:33:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA10112 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 05:33:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (vivek@malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by malkav.imaginet.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA19742; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:31:21 GMT Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:31:20 +0000 (GMT) From: Vivek To: Jason Armstrong cc: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] thanks .. atalkd startup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Jason Armstrong wrote: > Something else which puzzles me is the nbprgstr and nbpunrgstr > programs, I had to restart my whole computer before it seemed to > register, I can't just stop and restart the atalkd as I would normally > expect using linux. It is S91atalkd in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d. I read in one > of the HOW-TOs that this should be started before networking, which is > S10network. This is a little problematic when administering from a > remote site, I need to reboot the machine, something I have come to > expect from Windows but not from Linux. Or am I getting it wrong? What kernel have you got? IIRC 2.0.33 allows you to delete appletalk interfaces, so you can kill the daemons, ifconfig the interface down and up again, and restart the daemons. Alternatively you can compile the ddp stuff in as a module, kill the daemons, rmmod the modules, and restart the daemons. [You'll have to insmod them back before restarting the daemons if you're not using kerneld]. Er. I think that's all correct. I'm sure someone will tell me if I'm talking through my hat/have misunderstood the problem. -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 10 07:45:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA05459 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:45:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA05455 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:45:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA14512 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:45:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA14507 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:45:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from typeline.com (www.typeline.com [209.116.143.131]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA14502 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:45:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from typeline.com (usr3-02.pat.nj.webspan.net [206.154.92.58]) by typeline.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA03845 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:44:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from web@typeline.com) Message-ID: <35053444.759891D1@typeline.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 07:38:28 -0500 From: Webmaster X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and volume size calculations... References: <00001526.sm@h-e.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Before I decide to roll my sleeves up, has anyone patched the FreeBSD patched version of 1.4b2 with the asun patch successfully?? bsmith@h-e.com wrote: > Aha, sorry, my goof. You are using 1.4b2, I'm using 1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 (on a > Linux system, but I don't think that's an issue here). I had forgotten that > large volume support was one of the things asun added during all his marvelous > work on TCP/IP support. I saw the 1.9GB "truncate" problem on 7.5.5 clients > when I first set up my server, but in my case since I have netatalk patched for > large volumes, upgrading the AppleShare client fixed the problem. You are quite > correct concluding that the base 1.4b2 afpd can't handle volumes >2GB regardless > of AppleShare client or MacOS version. > > You could try to move to the asun version, or try applying his patches to what > you have, look at for details. I also > recall there is a large-volume patch for base 1.4b2 on the netatalk home page, > that might be a better choice if you don't need all the other stuff in the asun > version. But I don't know how any of this might interact with the BSD 2.2.5 > patches, so proceed with care! > > Hope this is helpful. > > Bob Smith > Hammett & Edison, Inc. > bsmith@h-e.com > > ______________________________________________ > Original message sent on Mon, Mar 9 5:44 PM by web@typeline.com (Webmaster) : > > To: bsmith > Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and volume size calculations... > Why do I only see 1.9 gigs of a 5.3 gig Netatalk volume mounted on a Mac running > System 8??? > There's about 500 megs used on the volume. > I'm running Netatalk 1.4b2 patched for FreeBSD 2.2.5 if it helps. Also, from the > Mac, in the window > for the mounted volume the 'bytes in disk' label is always zero k. It never > grows > no matter how many > files of varying sizes you copy into it. > > I'll try updating one of my 7.5.3 Mac clients to see if there's any difference. > > Thanks > > bsmith@h-e.com wrote: > > > Systems after 7.5.3 can handle volumes up to 4GB, but AppleShare volumes > bigger > > than 2GB require a newer version of the AppleShare client to work properly, > the > > AppleShare client 3.6.x that came with Systems 7.5.3 and 7.5.5 won't cut it. > > There is an upgrade to AppleShare client 3.7.2 somewhere on the Apple web > pages > > (sorry, don't remember the exact URL) and using this allows 4GB volumes on > > Systems 7.5.3 and later. Volumes >4GB still require System 7.6 or later. The > > AppleShare 3.7.2 client also does ASIP, so if you're using the asun patched > > netatalk you get the advantage of TCP/IP connections (they seem faster than > DDP > > connections, but I might just be imagining this). > > > > Bob Smith > > Hammett & Edison, Inc. > > bsmith@h-e.com > > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 10 08:32:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA06617 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:32:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA06613 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA24592 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:32:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA24590 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:32:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk (lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.120.6]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA24568 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:32:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from dis.strath.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/2.0A) with ESMTP id NAA12189 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:32:12 GMT To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Adrian's afpd server not letting go? Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:32:11 +0000 Message-ID: <12187.889536731@dis.strath.ac.uk> From: Duncan Sinclair Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm running netatalk-1.4b2+asun18.2 on the new Solaris kernel module. The other day when I tried to login, I got the "too many users logged in" message. As I have fewer Mac users than users allowed, this came as a surprise to me. Further investigation showed old afpd processes which had not died, despite the client being no longer in touch with the server. In fact there was one person with 3 afpd processes against her name. Anybody seen this? I think it happens more when the user's Mac has crashed, rather than the connection being terminated the normal way. Either way I get messages like this on my console: Mar 10 13:19:18 lomax afpd[2896]: atp_rresp: Connection timed out Mar 10 13:19:28 lomax afpd[2896]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Connection timed out Before "asun", I would only get the last error... While I'm here, more problems.... On one occasion the master "afpd" daemon died completely, requiring a manual restart. No apparent reason for this. A new class of error message for me: Mar 4 09:15:27 lomax afpd[12219]: afp_addicon: Permission denied Mar 4 09:15:36 lomax last message repeated 258 times Mar 9 15:24:06 lomax afpd[2060]: afp_addicon: No such file or directory As you can see, the "Permission denied" error caused a lot of fun for my syslogd. Anyone, perhaps Adrian, got any thoughts on these matters? Of the three the dying afpd is the most serious, but has only happened once or twice. Thanks a bunch anyway, I've just got my hands on MacOS 8 and it's nice to be able to access my files at a more respectable speed now. Cheers, Duncan Sinclair. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 10 08:37:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA06885 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:37:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA06869 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:36:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA29078 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:36:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA29076 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:36:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from newsgate.dircon.co.uk (uugate1.dircon.co.uk [194.112.50.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA29066 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 08:36:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from nan.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by newsgate.dircon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.7) with UUCP id NAA06882; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:36:44 GMT Received: by mailhost.nan.co.uk (sendmail 8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA03526; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:28:34 GMT X-Sender: sw@mailhost.nan.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199803091813.KAA08149@saul7.u.washington.edu> References: (message from KHOO Guan Chen on Mon, 9 Mar 1998 19:36:36 +0800 (SGT)) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 3.1 Organization: Network Analysis Ltd Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:27:56 +0000 To: a sun From: Sak Wathanasin Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] No response from server Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In reply to a sun's message of the 09/03/98 at 10:13 -0800, > afpd(210): refused connect for 192.168.0.2 > afpd(210): dsi_getsess: unknown error (or after a few tries) > afpd(210): dsi_getsess: Interrupted system call. > > umm, read the first line. the rest are sort of erroneous as a > consequence. it looks like you're running with tcp wrappers and aren't > allowing connections from your host. It's something to do with permissions, but that's not the full story. I'm getting the "No response from server. Try later" message, but as far as I know, my hosts.[allow,deny] are correct or at least tcpdmatch says so. I don't get any error messages in the log either. The weird thing is that if I click in the "server address" button, then type in the hostname of the server it allows me to connect and mount my volumes. I suspect that it's a MacOS 8.1 feature, though I couldn't swear to it (someone else reported a similar problem with 7.6). At the moment it's just an irritation (no auto-mount on startup for example), so I haven't put much effort into this, but when I have some time, I'll put a sniffer on and see what I can find. Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK Internet: sw@nan.co.uk Phone: (+44) 1203 419996 Fax: (+44) 1203 690690 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 10 10:52:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA12604 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:52:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA12587 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:52:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA10814 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:11:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA01842 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:11:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA01832 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:11:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from prozac.eeap.cwru.edu (prozac.EEAP.CWRU.Edu [129.22.56.185]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA01828 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:11:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from wes@localhost) by prozac.eeap.cwru.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) id KAA25203 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:11:39 -0500 From: Wes Brown Message-Id: <199803101511.KAA25203@prozac.eeap.cwru.edu> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Kerberos, OS 8, and the ASIP stuff To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:11:39 -0500 (EST) X-URL: http://prozac.student.cwru.edu/wes/About.me.html X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I currently have a netatalk server running with the latest asun patch. What I am wondering is if anyone has been able to get the Kerberos UAM to work with AppleShareIP. I had the Kerberos UAM working with 1.3 over a year ago, but now I would like to use the ASIP features. I am running MacOS 8, so I do not know if the UAMs will work for this system revision. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. Wes --- Wes Brown ewb4@po.cwru.edu wes@prozac.cwru.edu http://prozac.cwru.edu/wes/About.me.html KB8TGR From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 10 10:52:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA12622 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:52:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA12609 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:52:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA12501 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:50:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA17983 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:50:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA17976 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:50:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from gate.pubserv.com ([208.130.167.4]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id KAA17965 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:50:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by gate.pubserv.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA14863 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:29:01 -0600 Received: from morgana.pubserv.com(204.253.233.11) by gate.pubserv.com via smap (V1.3) id sma014861; Tue Mar 10 09:28:40 1998 Received: from Mufasa.pubserv.com by morgana.pubserv.com with SMTP id AA19185 (5.64+/IDA-1.3.3 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu); Tue, 10 Mar 98 09:57:16 -0600 Received: from localhost (rich@localhost) by Mufasa.pubserv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA30082 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:57:15 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: Mufasa.pubserv.com: rich owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:57:15 -0600 (CST) From: Richard Mann To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and volume size calculations... In-Reply-To: <0000151E.sm@h-e.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The URL I found for AppleShare client 3.7.2 is http://horton.austin.apple.com/cgi-bin/lister.pl?US/Macintosh /Networking-Communications/AppleShare BTW, there is also an update from System 7.6 to 7.6.1, as well as from System 8.0 to 8.1, under http://swupdates.info.apple.com/cgi-bin/lister.pl?Apple.Support.Area /Apple.Software.Updates/US/Macintosh/System //\ --rich // \ // / \ Richard Mann -- Network Administrator // / / \ P u b l i c a t i o n S e r v i c e s, I n c. \\ / / / Champaign, Illinois, USA 61821 (217) 398-2060 x22 \\ / / \\ / \\/ On Mon, 9 Mar 1998 bsmith@h-e.com wrote: > > Systems after 7.5.3 can handle volumes up to 4GB, but AppleShare volumes bigger > than 2GB require a newer version of the AppleShare client to work properly, the > AppleShare client 3.6.x that came with Systems 7.5.3 and 7.5.5 won't cut it. > There is an upgrade to AppleShare client 3.7.2 somewhere on the Apple web pages > (sorry, don't remember the exact URL) and using this allows 4GB volumes on > Systems 7.5.3 and later. Volumes >4GB still require System 7.6 or later. The > AppleShare 3.7.2 client also does ASIP, so if you're using the asun patched > netatalk you get the advantage of TCP/IP connections (they seem faster than DDP > connections, but I might just be imagining this). > > Bob Smith > Hammett & Edison, Inc. > bsmith@h-e.com > > ______________________________________________ > Original message sent on Mon, Mar 9 1:28 PM by web@typeline.com (Typeline > Webmaster) : > > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and volume size calculations... > I've been posting to this list during the past couple of weeks about a > nagging problem with respect to afpd calculating and sending volume size > info > to the Macintosh that's greater than 2 gigs in size. > > A few of the responses I've received point to the fact that previous > incarnations > of the Mac OS couldn't mount large volumes. While this is true with > early versions > of System 7, 7.5.3 through 8 have no trouble mounting larger volumes 2 > gigs and over. > > We're running Power Mac's on our network running 7.5.3 to 8.1. We're > also running > a Novell AFP server that lets us mount over 4 gigs on each Mac. So the > problem > isn't in the current releases of the Mac client OS's. It's Netatalk. > > After looking at the Netatalk source (volume.c, unix.c and > afpd-bfree.diff, the latest patch) it's clear the server can't mount > anything larger than 2147483647 bytes (0x7fffffff). This and a possible > case of integer overflow in volume.c seem > to be putting a ceiling on volume size. > > Has anybody hacked or fixed this code so bigger volumes can be mounted? > This is very > frustrating... > > Bob Badaracco > > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 10 10:59:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA13315 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:59:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA13299 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:59:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA12837 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:59:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA12831 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:59:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.nmc.siu.edu (orion.nmc.siu.edu [131.230.35.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA12813 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fleming@localhost) by orion.nmc.siu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.4) id JAA21402; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:59:25 -0600 From: "Paul M. Fleming" Message-Id: <199803101559.JAA21402@orion.nmc.siu.edu> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk vs. commercial products To: ssnyder@cecom.com (Sean A. Snyder) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:59:25 -0600 (CST) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <350084FD.5A265F32@cecom.com> from "Sean A. Snyder" at Mar 6, 98 06:21:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu We currently use uShare on an AIX machine and netatalk on three linux machines. I prefer netatalk hands down. uShare has a pretty GUI, but doesn't offer any better functionality than netatalk. (I also think it's a P.O.S) The Netatalk servers also seem to be faster, plus with uShare we have problems with files created on the Unix side not showing up at all on the mac side. I'm also using Samba and with the proper tweaking you can get samba, mac, unix users to coexists with little problem. (that include files creators etc) Hope this helps.. Paul > > Greetings! > > I've been lurking on the list here for a while, and figured that I'd > finally post.... Hopefully this posting won't start a flamewar... > > I'm really curious to hear about people's experiences with netatalk > in a 300+ user "mission-critical" commercial/production near-24x7 > environment. I'm also wondering what experiences people have had > with various commercial products that do roughly the same thing as > netatalk. > > In reading the netatalk web page, I was slightly disheartened to > read the following in regards to the pending release of 1.4b3: > > "The solaris kernel module is rewritten, eliminating many routing > problems and kernel panics." > > Can anyone shed any light on the kernel panic problem with Solaris > and version 1.4b2? How serious is it, etc? > > FYI: > At present, I'm using Information Presentation > Technologies' (www.iptech.com) "uShare" product to share files > from my 3 Sun Sparc1000E servers to about 150 macs/server. Each of > these servers has 50-70 gig of disk hung off of them. Version > 4.1f of their product worked just find under Solaris 2.5.1. For > a variety of reasons, I needed to upgrade to Solaris 2.6, which > in-turn forced me to upgrade to uShare 5.0, which is the biggest > P.O.S. i've ever seen. It has crashed one of my servers at LEAST once > a day for the past week. > > Also, I'm using Samba to share these files to our few > PCs, and it is the coolest thing since sliced bread. We are, however, > running into issues with the PCs not knowing the file-type/creator > information due to their reliance on *.doc style extensions. > > I've spent some time evaluating Syntax's TotalNet Advanced Server, > which allows me to share the same files to both Macs and PCs. I > liked the web-based admin interface it has (allows me to offload > some of my responsibility on the junior admins), but I'm just > not happy with their support (or lack thereof), nor an I happy > with all of the orphan processes it creates. This is especially > problematic these orphans are considered "active connections", and > the product refuses logins when you have exceeded your licensed > number of connections. Plus, it's REALLY REALLY REALLY 'spensive, > IMHO. > > Thanks in advance! > > Sean > > -- > ___________________________________________ > Sean A. Snyder (ssnyder@cecom.com) \ Strange but not a stranger > Systems Administrator \ I'm an ordinary guy... > Campbell-Ewald Advertising/C-E Communications\_________________________ > ***** All opinions are mine and mine only ... yadda yadda yadda ***** > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 10 11:29:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA14741 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:29:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA14734 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:29:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA03703 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:29:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA03700 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:29:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from typeline.com (www.typeline.com [209.116.143.131]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA03688 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from typeline.com (typeline.com [209.116.143.131]) by typeline.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA09324; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:29:25 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from web@typeline.com) Message-ID: <35056A65.41C67EA6@typeline.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:29:25 -0500 From: Typeline Webmaster Organization: Typeline, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Mann CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and volume size calculations... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Rich, I appreciate the links but my version of Netatalk 1.4b2 running under FreeBSD 2.2.5 will not mount anything larger than 2 gig. The ceiling for volume size is hard coded in the source. I thought about applying the asun patches but decided against it until I've found someone who has gone through the agony. Also, the asun patch seems to be too new and a bit immature for us to use now. We'll either wait for it to become more stable or wait for a newer release of the Appleshare version. Richard Mann wrote: > > The URL I found for AppleShare client 3.7.2 is > > http://horton.austin.apple.com/cgi-bin/lister.pl?US/Macintosh > /Networking-Communications/AppleShare > > BTW, there is also an update from System 7.6 to 7.6.1, as well as > from System 8.0 to 8.1, under > > http://swupdates.info.apple.com/cgi-bin/lister.pl?Apple.Support.Area > /Apple.Software.Updates/US/Macintosh/System > > //\ --rich > // \ > // / \ Richard Mann -- Network Administrator > // / / \ P u b l i c a t i o n S e r v i c e s, I n c. > \\ / / / Champaign, Illinois, USA 61821 (217) 398-2060 x22 > \\ / / > \\ / > \\/ > > On Mon, 9 Mar 1998 bsmith@h-e.com wrote: > > > > > Systems after 7.5.3 can handle volumes up to 4GB, but AppleShare volumes bigger > > than 2GB require a newer version of the AppleShare client to work properly, the > > AppleShare client 3.6.x that came with Systems 7.5.3 and 7.5.5 won't cut it. > > There is an upgrade to AppleShare client 3.7.2 somewhere on the Apple web pages > > (sorry, don't remember the exact URL) and using this allows 4GB volumes on > > Systems 7.5.3 and later. Volumes >4GB still require System 7.6 or later. The > > AppleShare 3.7.2 client also does ASIP, so if you're using the asun patched > > netatalk you get the advantage of TCP/IP connections (they seem faster than DDP > > connections, but I might just be imagining this). > > > > Bob Smith > > Hammett & Edison, Inc. > > bsmith@h-e.com > > > > ______________________________________________ > > Original message sent on Mon, Mar 9 1:28 PM by web@typeline.com (Typeline > > Webmaster) : > > > > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > > [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and volume size calculations... > > I've been posting to this list during the past couple of weeks about a > > nagging problem with respect to afpd calculating and sending volume size > > info > > to the Macintosh that's greater than 2 gigs in size. > > > > A few of the responses I've received point to the fact that previous > > incarnations > > of the Mac OS couldn't mount large volumes. While this is true with > > early versions > > of System 7, 7.5.3 through 8 have no trouble mounting larger volumes 2 > > gigs and over. > > > > We're running Power Mac's on our network running 7.5.3 to 8.1. We're > > also running > > a Novell AFP server that lets us mount over 4 gigs on each Mac. So the > > problem > > isn't in the current releases of the Mac client OS's. It's Netatalk. > > > > After looking at the Netatalk source (volume.c, unix.c and > > afpd-bfree.diff, the latest patch) it's clear the server can't mount > > anything larger than 2147483647 bytes (0x7fffffff). This and a possible > > case of integer overflow in volume.c seem > > to be putting a ceiling on volume size. > > > > Has anybody hacked or fixed this code so bigger volumes can be mounted? > > This is very > > frustrating... > > > > Bob Badaracco > > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 10 12:24:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA17372 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:24:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA17364 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:24:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA14560 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:20:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA14555 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:20:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA14549 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:20:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803101620.LAA14549@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Kerberos, OS 8, and the ASIP stuff In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:11:39 EST." <199803101511.KAA25203@prozac.eeap.cwru.edu> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:20:38 -0500 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Wes Brown > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > What I am wondering is if anyone has been able to get the Kerberos UAM to > work with AppleShareIP. The Authman UAM works under MacOS 8. No current UAM will work for ASIP, as the UAM API has changed. Apple published some draft information a while back, but I haven't noticed finals coming out. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 10 12:37:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA18556 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:37:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA18542 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:37:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA12752 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:37:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA12746 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:37:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from library.ucsf.edu (apollo.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA12702 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:37:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (windy.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.85]) by library.ucsf.edu (8.8.7/8.7.5) with SMTP id JAA25444; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:34:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (han@localhost) by windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA23815; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:41:57 -0800 Message-Id: <199803101741.JAA23815@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> To: Duncan Sinclair cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Adrian's afpd server not letting go? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:32:11 GMT." <12187.889536731@dis.strath.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:41:57 -0800 From: Michael M Han Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu There's a patch against umich 1.4b2 for Solaris. Its description seems to match your symptoms. I had to be a little intuitive about applying it to netatalk+asun, but I *think* what you need to do is this: *** libatalk/asp/asp_getsess.c- --- libatalk/asp/asp_getsess.c *************** *** 135,141 **** atpb.atp_rreqdata = asp->cmdbuf; atpb.atp_rreqdlen = sizeof( asp->cmdbuf ); while ( atp_rreq( asp->asp_atp, &atpb ) < 0 ) { ! if ( errno == EINTR ) { continue; } return( NULL ); --- 135,141 ---- atpb.atp_rreqdata = asp->cmdbuf; atpb.atp_rreqdlen = sizeof( asp->cmdbuf ); while ( atp_rreq( asp->asp_atp, &atpb ) < 0 ) { ! if ( errno == EINTR || errno == EAGAIN ) { continue; } return( NULL ); Now while I *did* do this to my own source and got it to compile and run correctly, my knowledge of C is more or less limited to things like 10-liners to do "Hello, world!\n" so I really couldn't say if what I've done is right. It seems to be to my rather naive eye. The original patch I found that I adapted to +asun was found at: http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk/patches/1.4b2/solariseagain.diff If someone more knowledgable about C and Solaris error conditions would care to confirm or deny, I'd appreciate it. Of course, a simpler approach would be to bump the -c flag handed to afpd in /etc/init.d/atalk. Previously... > >I'm running netatalk-1.4b2+asun18.2 on the new Solaris kernel module. > >The other day when I tried to login, I got the "too many users logged in" >message. As I have fewer Mac users than users allowed, this came as a >surprise to me. > >Further investigation showed old afpd processes which had not died, >despite the client being no longer in touch with the server. In fact >there was one person with 3 afpd processes against her name. > >Anybody seen this? I think it happens more when the user's Mac has >crashed, rather than the connection being terminated the normal way. > >Either way I get messages like this on my console: >Mar 10 13:19:18 lomax afpd[2896]: atp_rresp: Connection timed out >Mar 10 13:19:28 lomax afpd[2896]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Connection timed out > >Before "asun", I would only get the last error... > > >While I'm here, more problems.... On one occasion the master "afpd" >daemon died completely, requiring a manual restart. No apparent >reason for this. > > >A new class of error message for me: >Mar 4 09:15:27 lomax afpd[12219]: afp_addicon: Permission denied >Mar 4 09:15:36 lomax last message repeated 258 times >Mar 9 15:24:06 lomax afpd[2060]: afp_addicon: No such file or directory > >As you can see, the "Permission denied" error caused a lot of fun for >my syslogd. > > >Anyone, perhaps Adrian, got any thoughts on these matters? > >Of the three the dying afpd is the most serious, but has only happened >once or twice. > >Thanks a bunch anyway, I've just got my hands on MacOS 8 and it's nice to >be able to access my files at a more respectable speed now. > >Cheers, > > >Duncan Sinclair. _________ mike (han@library.ucsf.edu) I will not squeak chalk - The collected wisdom of Bart Simpson From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 10 13:46:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA23466 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:46:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA23461 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:46:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA00630 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:46:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA00612 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:46:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk (lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.120.6]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA00560 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:46:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from dis.strath.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/2.0A) with ESMTP id SAA15254; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:44:59 GMT To: Michael M Han cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Adrian's afpd server not letting go? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:41:57 PST." Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:44:58 +0000 Message-ID: <15252.889555498@dis.strath.ac.uk> From: Duncan Sinclair Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >There's a patch against umich 1.4b2 for Solaris. Its description seems >to match your symptoms. I had to be a little intuitive about applying >it to netatalk+asun, but I *think* what you need to do is this: >*** libatalk/asp/asp_getsess.c- >--- libatalk/asp/asp_getsess.c >*************** >... Sorry, I should have said that I have already applied this patch myself. I can't recall exactly what this fixed, but I fell over it two years ago... >what I've done is right. It seems to be to my rather naive eye. The >original patch I found that I adapted to +asun was found at: It was certainly the right thing as far as I am aware. Adrian, perhaps you might include this patch amongst yours? Thanks, Duncan Sinclair. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 10 14:29:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA25936 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:29:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA25929 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:29:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA24257 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:59:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA04994 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:59:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA04974 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:59:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA04956 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:59:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from saul5.u.washington.edu (asun@saul5.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.3]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA11324; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:58:57 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by saul5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) id KAA21413; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:58:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:58:57 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803101858.KAA21413@saul5.u.washington.edu> From: a sun To: sinclair@dis.strath.ac.uk CC: han@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <15252.889555498@dis.strath.ac.uk> (message from Duncan Sinclair on Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:44:58 +0000) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Adrian's afpd server not letting go? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu It was certainly the right thing as far as I am aware. Adrian, perhaps you might include this patch amongst yours? it's already in my current, unavailable snaphost. that snapshot has a few tweaks to improve solaris support. i'll probably make it available after i've added in my opendir/readdir/closedir version of case-insensitive file comparisons. actually, i would really like some data on the standard size of people's directories and the machines they're running on. currently, the only way of properly doing case-insensitive lookups that i can think of is to actually read the directories, making it an O(n) operation. bleah. that can be sped up somewhat for future directory reads by maintaining a hashed list or something. however, that's only a win if you can be sure that the files won't do something unexpected under you. i don't think we can make that guarantee with netatalk. ideas anyone? -a From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 10 16:07:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA00567 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:07:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA00555 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:07:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA25019 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:07:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA25010 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:07:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from cimteg.cimtegration.com (cimteg.cimtegration.com [199.246.8.18]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA24982 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:07:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from cimteg.cimtegration.com (cimteg.cimtegration.com [199.246.8.18]) by cimteg.cimtegration.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/cimteg $Revision: 1.11 $) with SMTP id PAA04048 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:57:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:57:33 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Mansell To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] custom netatalk folder icon? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Anyone know where and how to put a custom folder icon in that appears instead of the generic Mac network folder icon? I would assume it has something to do with some '.' file in the root dir being mounted??? Not critical to the operation of my machines of course, but if someone's done it, I'd be interested to know how. Mike. -- /\ Michael G. Mansell, BSc. (SCS) Office: (416) 665-0767 x228 /\ \ Engineering Support Services clearNET:(416) 984-7839 /\ \ \ DataVation Inc., Toronto Fax: (416) 665-8285 / \ \ \ WWW.DataVation.COM Email: MikeM@DataVation.COM From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 10 17:22:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA04498 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:22:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA04494 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:22:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA25702 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:22:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA25699 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:22:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from goddess.coe.missouri.edu (goddess.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.71]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA25428 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:22:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from [128.206.158.52] (baroque.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.52]) by goddess.coe.missouri.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA14403; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:20:50 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:20:49 -0600 From: Mark Donnelly Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] custom netatalk folder icon? To: Mike Mansell , netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Authenticated: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Anyone know where and how to put a custom folder icon in that appears >instead of the generic Mac network folder icon? I would assume it has >something to do with some '.' file in the root dir being mounted??? Not >critical to the operation of my machines of course, but if someone's done >it, I'd be interested to know how. I don't know how to change the default, but on a disk-by-disk basis, you can just copy a picture onto the clipboard of the Mac, find the folder in the Finder, select Get Info from the File menu, click on the folder icon, and paste the image there...it will resize and take care of everything. --Mark "I think so Brain, but if they called them sad meals, then no one would buy them." From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 10 19:01:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA07411 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:01:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA07407 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:01:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA07145 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:01:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA07142 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:01:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from oeb.harvard.edu (oeb.harvard.edu [140.247.96.165]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA07134 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:01:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from oeb.harvard.edu (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by oeb.harvard.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA18006; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:01:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199803110001.TAA18006@oeb.harvard.edu> To: LINUX-ATALK@NETSPACE.ORG, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Printing problems Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:01:09 -0500 From: William Knox Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am attempting to print to a HP LaserJet 4 that I have set up with pap on my Linux box. It is normally working fine, but when I try to print from a Windows 95 machine (which is being served the printer with samba), I get (at least from some of the Windows machines - others work fine) the following message in my system console: status: Permission denied unprintable character (0x1b)! status: Permission denied The printer's light flashes, pauses, and then it gives up silently. I am running netatalk 1.4b2 with the asun patches, Linux 2.0.32, and (for what it's worth) samba 1.9.17p4. Bill Knox (wknox@oeb.harvard.edu) Harvard University Herbaria (617) 496-3023 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 10 20:04:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA09423 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:04:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA09419 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:04:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA07272 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:03:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA07262 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:03:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA07243 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:03:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id RAA18740; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:04:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:04:50 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: Webmaster cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and volume size calculations... In-Reply-To: <35053444.759891D1@typeline.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Webmaster wrote: > Before I decide to roll my sleeves up, has anyone patched the FreeBSD patched > version > of 1.4b2 with the asun patch successfully?? What patches are in the "FreeBSD patched version"? 1.4b2 supported FreeBSD out of the box. If you're refering to the patches in the FreeBSD netatalk port, I think it'd be easier to apply those patches to Adrian's source. And it looks like most of these patches are only needed if you're running freebsd-current. At least as far as I could tell from the patches I just downloaded. :-) Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 10 21:57:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA12006 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:57:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA12002 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:57:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA19645 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:57:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA19633 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:57:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from typeline.com (www.typeline.com [209.116.143.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA19623 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:57:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from typeline.com (usr9-07.pat.nj.webspan.net [206.154.92.171]) by typeline.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA04843; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:56:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from web@typeline.com) Message-ID: <3505FBEA.E1EEEBA7@typeline.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:50:18 -0500 From: Webmaster X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Studenmund , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and volume size calculations... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Today I started from scratch with Netatalk and decided to apply the asun patch that does AFP using TCP. Since support for larger volume sizes was added in this patch I figured it would be worth a try. I applied the patch, made a few simple adjustments in the Makefile and recompiled the Netatalk source without any problems. I had to edit my netatalk.sh file to include the paths to the new binaries which this version puts in a separate dir (/usr/local/atalk/bin). This was a good thing because I wanted to maintain the previous Netatalk tree in case this incarnation didn't work. Anyway, what followed after a full reboot was rather interesting. From a Mac running system 8 I was able to enter the IP of my Netatalk server and mount it's volume over IP very easily. I was *also* able to mount another Netatalk volume using AppleShare from the same Mac! Cool. Both mounted volumes didn't show the total volume size available. However, after copying large files to both I discovered what this notion of quotas is all about; something I gleaned from looking at some of the Netatalk source and something that isn't at all documented. Before copying these files I had 1.2gigs of space out of 5.3gigs available on the Netatalk volume. As the writing of the data to this volume progressed I noticed that the available size increased automatically whenever the first *quota* was about to be used up. When I saw this I went back to study the source to see if this is supposed to happen. Sure enough, it turns our that Netatalk has a notion of a 'soft' quota. It will expand the volume as needed until it hits the hard limit of the physical volume. I may not be entirely right about this but it sure seems this way... It would be nice to be able to define a min and max for the quota. Oh well, it works, that's the main thing. Bill Studenmund wrote: > On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Webmaster wrote: > > > Before I decide to roll my sleeves up, has anyone patched the FreeBSD patched > > version > > of 1.4b2 with the asun patch successfully?? > > What patches are in the "FreeBSD patched version"? 1.4b2 supported FreeBSD > out of the box. > > If you're refering to the patches in the FreeBSD netatalk port, I think > it'd be easier to apply those patches to Adrian's source. And it looks > like most of these patches are only needed if you're running > freebsd-current. At least as far as I could tell from the patches I just > downloaded. :-) > > Take care, > > Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 10 22:44:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA13032 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:44:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA13019 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:44:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id WAA18798 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:44:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id WAA18795 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:44:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from alice.stimpy.com (alice.stimpy.com [208.211.184.17]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA18781 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:44:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from alice.stimpy.com (alice.stimpy.com [208.211.184.17]) by alice.stimpy.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA13257 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:30:54 -0800 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:30:53 -0800 (PST) From: Walt Bigelow Reply-To: Walt Bigelow To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] slightly off topic... a question about hfs. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu All: I've looked through the hfs faq for linux, and found no help for my problem. The problem is: when I mount a mac disk, I cannot seem to set the group permissions for the mount. I am mounting it the following way: mount -t hfs -o afpd,uid=1133,gid=100 /dev/sdc /mnt/jaz And the permissions come out to be 755, and I need at least 775. Anyone done this before? Sorry if this is something obvious :) Thanks, Walt From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 10 22:51:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA13611 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:51:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA13604 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:51:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA01445 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:51:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA01442 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:51:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from hermes.nerosworld.com ([205.218.212.67]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id WAA01415 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 22:50:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from deperry@localhost) by hermes.nerosworld.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA07693; Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:51:45 GMT Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:51:45 +0000 () From: David Perry To: Mike Mansell cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] custom netatalk folder icon? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Mike, >From a mac, you can copy an icon to the clipboard, select the folder or volume you want to change, get info. Click on the icon in the get info window and paste. There is an attribute called USE CUSTOM ICON that has to be set from the mac. The icon is stored as an invisible file inside that folder. Hope this helps. David Perry On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Mike Mansell wrote: > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:57:33 -0500 (EST) > From: Mike Mansell > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Subject: [netatalk-admins] custom netatalk folder icon? > > Anyone know where and how to put a custom folder icon in that appears > instead of the generic Mac network folder icon? I would assume it has > something to do with some '.' file in the root dir being mounted??? Not > critical to the operation of my machines of course, but if someone's done > it, I'd be interested to know how. > > Mike. > > -- > /\ Michael G. Mansell, BSc. (SCS) Office: (416) 665-0767 x228 > /\ \ Engineering Support Services clearNET:(416) 984-7839 > /\ \ \ DataVation Inc., Toronto Fax: (416) 665-8285 > / \ \ \ WWW.DataVation.COM Email: MikeM@DataVation.COM > From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 11 05:30:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA04744 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:30:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA04707 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:30:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id FAA18153 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:30:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id FAA18150 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:30:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA18138 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:30:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-57.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.57]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id DAA19552 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 03:29:39 -0800 Message-Id: <199803111129.DAA19552@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] RPM of asun's netatalk... Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 02:28:04 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mail-atalk To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Has anyone attempted an RPM of asun's netatalk installation, similar to Red Hat's... ? Would make installation for newbies like myself much easier... Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 11 05:37:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA13675 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:37:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA13670 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:37:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA10122 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:37:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA10120 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:37:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk (lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.120.6]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA10116 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:37:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from dis.strath.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/2.0A) with ESMTP id KAA20915; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:35:41 GMT To: a sun cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Adrian's afpd server not letting go? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:58:57 PST." Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:35:41 +0000 Message-ID: <20913.889612541@dis.strath.ac.uk> From: Duncan Sinclair Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu a sun writes: >it's already in my current, unavailable snaphost. that snapshot has a >few tweaks to improve solaris support. i'll probably make it available >after i've added in my opendir/readdir/closedir version of >case-insensitive file comparisons. I'll look forward to it... >actually, i would really like some data on the standard size of >people's directories and the machines they're running on. Is there such a thing as a standard directory size? I have directories with one or two files, but others with several hundred files. My Sun is fairly low-powered. >currently, >the only way of properly doing case-insensitive lookups that i can >think of is to actually read the directories, making it an O(n) >operation. bleah. Isn't that what the kernel has to do in its case-sensitive lookups? Unix directory lookup can be very slow. This is the big problem with news servers like INN which spend more time looking up files than it does reading them. >that can be sped up somewhat for future directory >reads by maintaining a hashed list or something. however, that's only >a win if you can be sure that the files won't do something unexpected >under you. i don't think we can make that guarantee with >netatalk. ideas anyone? In order to implment persistent directory ids, you'd have to do something like this. My idea would be to keep a single file and directory lookup cache. It's kept it up to date by verifying that the container directory hasn't been modified since a particular entry was made. It would be built "on-demand" as I occasionally mount a 200GB (!) store for use with netatalk, and I wouldn't want to have to pre-index that. In CAP this is done by having a separate dir-id server process that manages it all for the various "aufs" (CAP's afpd) processes. If the dir-id process dies, then the aufs can still use the dir-id store, but it has to make sure to lock and unlock the dir-id store every time it's used. The server process doesn't have to worry about that - it just keeps it locked. Cheers, Duncan. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 11 05:48:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA14318 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:48:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA14314 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:48:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id FAA19993 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:48:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id FAA19991 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:48:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg (ts900-5818.singnet.com.sg [165.21.162.38]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA19981 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 05:47:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (khoogc@localhost) by daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA01435; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:51:36 +0800 X-Authentication-Warning: daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg: khoogc owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:51:36 +0800 (SGT) From: KHOO Guan Chen X-Sender: khoogc@daisy Reply-To: KHOO Guan Chen To: a sun cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] No response from server In-Reply-To: <199803091813.KAA08149@saul7.u.washington.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, a sun wrote: > afpd(210): refused connect for 192.168.0.2 > afpd(210): dsi_getsess: unknown error (or after a few tries) > afpd(210): dsi_getsess: Interrupted system call. > > umm, read the first line. the rest are sort of erroneous as a > consequence. it looks like you're running with tcp wrappers and aren't > allowing connections from your host. Yes, you are correct. I have forgotten that I have tcp_wrappers. Didn't understand what it was the last time I looked at it, so it kind of slipped my mind. Anyway, I have edited my /etc/hosts.allow and have connection to the mac now. Thanks for everything. Richard KHOO Guan Chen e-mail: khoogc@singnet.com.sg snail-mail: 38-A, Lorong 23, Geylang, Singapore 388372 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 11 09:28:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA18194 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:28:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA18190 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:28:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA29258 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:27:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA29248 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:27:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from Tequila.MIDRAS.de (Tequila.MIDRAS.de [194.121.54.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id JAA29229 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:27:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3506AD25.9A83DEF@MIDRAS.de> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:27:09 +0000 From: Jochen Haeberle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: [netatalk-admins] AppleShare IP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I think there was talking on this list about a Patch for netatalk to support AppleShare IP. Unfortunately I could not find anything on the web. I am currently using Linux 2.0.32 and netatalk 1.4b2. On the Macs I have OS 8.0 and 8.1 (both with support for AppleShare IP). Thanks for the help! Jochen From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 11 09:48:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA18911 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:48:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA18906 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:48:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA27780 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:48:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA27768 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:47:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from cimteg.cimtegration.com (cimteg.cimtegration.com [199.246.8.18]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA27761 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:47:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from cimteg.cimtegration.com (cimteg.cimtegration.com [199.246.8.18]) by cimteg.cimtegration.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/cimteg $Revision: 1.11 $) with SMTP id JAA06045 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:38:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:38:08 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Mansell To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and nearline storage? In-Reply-To: <20913.889612541@dis.strath.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Unix directory lookup can be very slow. This is the big problem > with news servers like INN which spend more time looking up files > than it does reading them. > > In order to implment persistent directory ids, you'd have to do something > like this. My idea would be to keep a single file and directory lookup > cache. It's kept it up to date by verifying that the container directory > hasn't been modified since a particular entry was made. It would be > built "on-demand" as I occasionally mount a 200GB (!) store for use with > netatalk, and I wouldn't want to have to pre-index that. Being able to avoid massive pre-indexing and directory lookups would be a life-saver for our installations. We plan to use netatalk in some setups to allow Mac's access to our 100GB-1500GB NFS NearLine storage server (nearline cuz its tape + disk cache, Network <---> Disk <---> Tape Array) via a UNIX box. Because our storage server is nearline, and includes tape drives, opening directories through netatalk can generate a whole bunch of requests into the tape array to get the .parent and .appledouble files and such! - it can be a real nightmare (esp. if it preempts someone trying to get to an actual file!). If the '.' files are in the disk cache though, its not too bad, but still theres a lot of network chatter just opening dir's. If a single indexing file could hold info. for many other files, it would at least speed up the number of files netatalk has to open and close - but I know this won't happen overnight. For now, I think we'll just have to add in someway to 'lock' the .parent and .appledouble files into the disk cache (so our tape array doesn't have a heart attack!). Maybe my first question should have been, "has anyone had experience with netatalk and nearline storage?". Mike. -- /\ Michael G. Mansell, BSc. (SCS) Office: (416) 665-0767 x228 /\ \ Engineering Support Services clearNET:(416) 984-7839 /\ \ \ DataVation Inc., Toronto Fax: (416) 665-8285 / \ \ \ WWW.DataVation.COM Email: MikeM@DataVation.COM From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 11 11:15:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA21259 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:15:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA21253 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:15:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA04728 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:15:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA04724 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:15:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA04586 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:15:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@ns.lettera.hu [194.88.38.131]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id RAA21897; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:14:43 +0100 Message-ID: <3506B858.AFEF6370@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:14:16 +0100 From: Andras Kadinger Reply-To: bandit@freeside.elte.hu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: a sun , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Adrian's afpd server not letting go? References: <199803101858.KAA21413@saul5.u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu a sun wrote: > it's already in my current, unavailable snaphost. that snapshot has a > few tweaks to improve solaris support. i'll probably make it available > after i've added in my opendir/readdir/closedir version of > case-insensitive file comparisons. > > actually, i would really like some data on the standard size of > people's directories and the machines they're running on. currently, > the only way of properly doing case-insensitive lookups that i can > think of is to actually read the directories, making it an O(n) > operation. bleah. that can be sped up somewhat for future directory > reads by maintaining a hashed list or something. however, that's only > a win if you can be sure that the files won't do something unexpected > under you. i don't think we can make that guarantee with > netatalk. ideas anyone? I've done some measurements with the routine I sent You before, on a P133/16MB with Linux 2.0.33. Empty directory, creat(3)-ing 5000 files: bash$ time ../catalog -c 5000 0.16user 27.51system 0:29.28elapsed 94%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k 0inputs+0outputs (0major+0minor)pagefaults 0swaps Now there are only a couple of empty files here. Let's build the catalog file; this involves opendir/readdir/closedir, and finally writes the resulting list to a .Catalog file in the same directory. bash$ time ../catalog -l . 0.06user 0.69system 0:03.45elapsed 21%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k 0inputs+0outputs (0major+0minor)pagefaults 0swaps Now we created the catalog file, so next time we can read it directly and avoid readdir. The result: bash$ time ../catalog -l . 0.00user 0.11system 0:00.35elapsed 31%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k 0inputs+0outputs (0major+0minor)pagefaults 0swaps Something happens which I am not aware of yet, because in subsequent invocations, we get: bash$ time ../catalog -l . 0.00user 0.06system 0:00.07elapsed 85%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k 0inputs+0outputs (0major+0minor)pagefaults 0swaps I used the raw dirent structure: bash$ ls -l .Catalog -rw------- 1 bandit users 1340536 Mar 11 16:43 .Catalog Note: most of the involved disk blocks are cached in memory; no sorting used. I can not think of any way a file could escape our attention if we base the updating of the catalog on the directory->mtime > catalog->mtime comparison modulo races, but I am not an unix expert after all. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 11 11:40:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA22421 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:40:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA22411 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:39:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA04867 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:39:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA04856 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:39:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA04824 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:39:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-74.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.74]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA24456; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:39:21 -0800 Message-Id: <199803111739.JAA24456@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AppleShare IP Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:37:47 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mail-atalk To: "Jochen Haeberle" , "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >I think there was talking on this list about a Patch for netatalk to support >AppleShare IP. Unfortunately I could not find anything on the web. Funny, we were just talking about this... a sun's various patches implement tcp over afp, and a couple of other enhancements. Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 11 12:14:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA24143 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:14:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA24135 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:13:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA15531 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:38:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA05677 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:38:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA05675 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:38:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from ratz.ds.fh-koeln.de (ratz.DS.FH-Koeln.DE [139.6.141.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA05667 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 06:38:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from pc01 (call4.ds.fh-koeln.de [139.6.141.74]) by ratz.ds.fh-koeln.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA10650 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:36:43 +0100 Message-Id: <199803111136.MAA10650@ratz.ds.fh-koeln.de> X-Sender: owrede@wallace.khm.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Demo Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:38:14 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Oliver Wrede Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] RPM of asun's netatalk... In-Reply-To: <199803111129.DAA19552@nucleus.fizbin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 02:28 11.03.98 -0800, you wrote: >Has anyone attempted an RPM of asun's netatalk installation, similar to >Red Hat's... ? Would make installation for newbies like myself much >easier... I can see most people turn to Adrians version of Netatalk now. Adrian does a damn good work on Netatalk and it is going to be a killer-app for Linux! Nevertheless - as far as I understand it - there is an "a sun"-Version and an "official" release - currently in 1.4b2 state. Isn't it possible to join forces in developing _one_ Netatalk instead of two? As far as I can tell, Adrians release has already included lots of improvements over the official 1.4b2 version. So why not come up with a 1.5b1? I remember to have read something about "licence conditions" of the official version, which Adrian did not want to apply to - isn't there a way to get rid of this contrains? What should be the "advantage" of this? -- Well, I think more developers may consider helping to develop Netatalk, if there would be an unified project. But maybe there's no one around with the necessary in-depth knowledge of AppleTalk AND Unix (maybe even not at Apple itself?) Oliver . Oliver Wrede . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . owrede@ds.fh-koeln.de . . tel. +49 2203 913 200 . office +49 221 9522 601 . fax +49 221 9522 605 . . School of Design, University of Applied Science, Cologne . . . . . . . . . . http://www.ds.fh-koeln.de/~owrede/ . . . . . . . . ICQ# 6580315 . . . . . From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 11 12:14:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA24183 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:14:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA24142 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:14:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA19873 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:20:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA11175 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:19:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA11173 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:19:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from gate.pubserv.com ([208.130.167.4]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id KAA11157 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:19:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by gate.pubserv.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA17122; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 08:58:51 -0600 Received: from morgana.pubserv.com(204.253.233.11) by gate.pubserv.com via smap (V1.3) id sma017120; Wed Mar 11 08:58:35 1998 Received: from Mufasa.pubserv.com by morgana.pubserv.com with SMTP id AA28792 (5.64+/IDA-1.3.3 for wknox@oeb.harvard.edu); Wed, 11 Mar 98 09:27:11 -0600 Received: from localhost (rich@localhost) by Mufasa.pubserv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA06558; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:27:10 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: Mufasa.pubserv.com: rich owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:27:10 -0600 (CST) From: Richard Mann To: William Knox Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Printing problems In-Reply-To: <199803110001.TAA18006@oeb.harvard.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Some of the printer drivers on the Windows 95 disk are crap. I have switched over to Adobe's PostScript driver for Win95 (and 3.11), which you can get from http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/download.html You can also get the latest PPD for that printer from the same site. (When the install utility asks you to select your printer, you point it to the directory containing that PPD file.) I haven't had any trouble printing to my HP LaserJet 4/4M Plus since. //\ --rich // \ // / \ Richard Mann -- Network Administrator // / / \ P u b l i c a t i o n S e r v i c e s, I n c. \\ / / / Champaign, Illinois, USA 61821 (217) 398-2060 x22 \\ / / \\ / \\/ On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, William Knox wrote: > I am attempting to print to a HP LaserJet 4 that I have set up with pap > on my Linux box. It is normally working fine, but when I try to print > from a Windows 95 machine (which is being served the printer with samba), > I get (at least from some of the Windows machines - others work fine) the > following message in my system console: > > status: Permission denied > unprintable character (0x1b)! > status: Permission denied > > The printer's light flashes, pauses, and then it gives up silently. > I am running netatalk 1.4b2 with the asun patches, Linux 2.0.32, and (for > what it's worth) samba 1.9.17p4. > > Bill Knox (wknox@oeb.harvard.edu) > Harvard University Herbaria > (617) 496-3023 > From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 11 12:14:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA24195 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:14:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA24162 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:14:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA20064 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:30:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA24086 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:30:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA24077 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:30:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from gate.pubserv.com ([208.130.167.4]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id KAA24062 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:30:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by gate.pubserv.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA17141 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:09:22 -0600 Received: from morgana.pubserv.com(204.253.233.11) by gate.pubserv.com via smap (V1.3) id sma017139; Wed Mar 11 09:09:04 1998 Received: from Mufasa.pubserv.com by morgana.pubserv.com with SMTP id AA00406 (5.64+/IDA-1.3.3 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu); Wed, 11 Mar 98 09:37:41 -0600 Received: from localhost (rich@localhost) by Mufasa.pubserv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA07098 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:37:40 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: Mufasa.pubserv.com: rich owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:37:40 -0600 (CST) From: Richard Mann To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] custom netatalk folder icon? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is there a way to permanently switch the generic icon that is created, when a file with no resource fork is copied to a netatalk folder? The attached method is ok for folders, since there are relatively few of them (though it would be nice to have a global way of changing them, too.) But it would be great to be able to set the generic file icon, so that files copied to the netatalk volume will take on that icon. //\ --rich // \ // / \ Richard Mann -- Network Administrator // / / \ P u b l i c a t i o n S e r v i c e s, I n c. \\ / / / Champaign, Illinois, USA 61821 (217) 398-2060 x22 \\ / / \\ / \\/ On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, David Perry wrote: > Mike, > > >From a mac, you can copy an icon to the clipboard, select the folder or > volume you want to change, get info. Click on the icon in the get info > window and paste. There is an attribute called USE CUSTOM ICON that has > to be set from the mac. The icon is stored as an invisible file inside > that folder. > > Hope this helps. > > David Perry > > On Tue, 10 Mar 1998, Mike Mansell wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:57:33 -0500 (EST) > > From: Mike Mansell > > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > > Subject: [netatalk-admins] custom netatalk folder icon? > > > > Anyone know where and how to put a custom folder icon in that appears > > instead of the generic Mac network folder icon? I would assume it has > > something to do with some '.' file in the root dir being mounted??? Not > > critical to the operation of my machines of course, but if someone's done > > it, I'd be interested to know how. > > > > Mike. > > > > -- > > /\ Michael G. Mansell, BSc. (SCS) Office: (416) 665-0767 x228 > > /\ \ Engineering Support Services clearNET:(416) 984-7839 > > /\ \ \ DataVation Inc., Toronto Fax: (416) 665-8285 > > / \ \ \ WWW.DataVation.COM Email: MikeM@DataVation.COM > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 11 12:14:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA24213 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:14:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA24177 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:14:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA21939 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:28:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA19253 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:28:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA19247 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:28:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA19228 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:28:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA10975; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:28:14 GMT Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:28:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Jochen Haeberle cc: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AppleShare IP In-Reply-To: <3506AD25.9A83DEF@MIDRAS.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/pub/user-supported/asun Get the latest version from there, it supports AFP 2.2 (AFP over TCP). On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Jochen Haeberle wrote: > I think there was talking on this list about a Patch for netatalk to support > AppleShare IP. Unfortunately I could not find anything on the web. > > I am currently using Linux 2.0.32 and netatalk 1.4b2. On the Macs I have OS > 8.0 and 8.1 (both with support for AppleShare IP). -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 11 13:01:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA27714 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:01:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA27710 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:01:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA09102 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:01:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA09099 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:01:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA09094 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:01:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-136.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.136]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA26144; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:01:11 -0800 Message-Id: <199803111901.LAA26144@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] RPM of asun's netatalk... Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:59:36 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: mail-atalk To: "Oliver Wrede" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >I can see most people turn to Adrians version of Netatalk now. Adrian >does a damn good work on Netatalk and it is going to be a killer-app >for Linux! Netatalk by itself is already a killer app, and considering its close to non-existing support and development by umich, I'm happy to see that someone picked up the baton on this project. >Nevertheless - as far as I understand it - there is an "a sun"-Version >and an "official" release - currently in 1.4b2 state. A state it has been in for a VERY long time. If you consider that any requests and questions directed to the netatalk team at umich go regularly unanswered, I'm not surprised the project has been floundering. Again, I'm very glad to see a dedicated and motivated person like Adrian introduce an unofficial unified release that includes many worthwile improvements. Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 11 14:41:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA01800 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:41:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA01784 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:40:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA04781 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:40:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA04778 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA04762 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:40:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@ns.lettera.hu [194.88.38.131]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id UAA31637; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:40:26 +0100 Message-ID: <3506E88C.C918975B@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:39:57 +0100 From: Andras Kadinger Reply-To: bandit@freeside.elte.hu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mail-atalk , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] RPM of asun's netatalk... References: <199803111901.LAA26144@nucleus.fizbin.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Harry, mail-atalk wrote: > Netatalk by itself is already a killer app, and considering its close to > non-existing support and development by umich, I'm happy to see that > someone picked up the baton on this project. Please be careful not to offend the umich netatalk people. Although they seem not to have the necessary resources dedicated to this project at the moment, they still did a lot of work in the past, that is, created 1.4b2. It just happens so, they no longer can support netatalk as actively as they did before - they surely have their reasons (I am curious what those might be). Adrian's work is very important for many of us, and I am sure we all would like to know the background, the relationship between the two forks, as well as the planned/expected future of the original vs. Adrian's version of netatalk - this would clear some issues. For I am not in the team of either Adrian or the Michigan University, I can only ask them, please tell us more about the current dimplomatic situation. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 11 14:43:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA01976 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:43:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA01946 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:43:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA27186 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:51:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA16304 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:51:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA16299 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:51:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA16288 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from saul10.u.washington.edu (asun@saul10.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.73]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA25500; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:51:32 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by saul10.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) id JAA21156; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:51:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:51:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803111751.JAA21156@saul10.u.washington.edu> From: a sun To: owrede@ds.fh-koeln.de CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199803111136.MAA10650@ratz.ds.fh-koeln.de> (message from Oliver Wrede on Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:38:14 +0100) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] RPM of asun's netatalk... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I remember to have read something about "licence conditions" of the official version, which Adrian did not want to apply to - isn't there a way to get rid of this contrains? actually, i believe the concern was the fact that i added my own copyright (identical to umich's in terms) to some of the new stuff i've added in. i said that i was willing to remove that, but that i felt that i should get some type of acknowledgement for the amount of effort i've put into the code. the other concern is the fact that i've added in a number of different things, and the umich folks like to check each feature/fix in individually. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 11 14:43:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA01986 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA01957 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:43:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA00389 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:09:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA07001 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:09:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA06987 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:09:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from UPIMSSMTPUSR02 (smtp.email.msn.com [207.68.143.138]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA06973 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:09:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from beef - 206.173.202.204 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:09:32 -0800 Message-ID: <000f01bd4d21$43ee6b80$cccaadce@beef> From: "Eric KieslingThompson" To: Subject: [netatalk-admins] getting a new nic Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:09:43 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all. First, I just want to say that I love netatalk, and I love this list! ok, now I'll get to my real question. I confess that I built a server using an ne2000 clone. When things get busy at the firm, with big graphics apps running, and big file copies, the network gets REALLY slow. I've upgraded the RAM in the server to 96MB (will be 128 when I get the next chip), I'm going to add a hub (two already, but pretty full), and I'm going to put the server on a shorter length of cable (about 50' right now, but shouldn't even matter under 300', right?). I'm running Slackware 2.0.30, and netatalk 1.4b2. I would like to use asun's stuff, but no luck so far with compiling (still working through 6,000,000 emails :) ). BUT, I have a feeling that the ne2000 clone may be a major factor. I'm going to get a new nic, and I'm wondering if any of you have a recommendation. The server is an AMD K5-PR100, with isa and pci. The network is 10MB ethernet. So far, all clients are MACS, but I'm expecting to add some PC's. Any input greatly appreciated. TIA, Eric Thompson From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 11 15:54:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA06032 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:54:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA06023 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:54:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA01640 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:54:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA01634 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:54:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.techniche.co.nz ([202.36.111.226]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA01604 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:54:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [202.36.111.236] (rknuckey.techniche.co.nz [202.36.111.236]) by mail.techniche.co.nz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA14541; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:56:46 +1300 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000f01bd4d21$43ee6b80$cccaadce@beef> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:55:11 +1300 To: "Eric KieslingThompson" , From: Richard Knuckey Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] getting a new nic Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 8:09 am +1300 12/3/98, Eric KieslingThompson wrote: >I confess that I built a server using an ne2000 clone. When things get busy >at the firm, with big graphics apps running, and big file copies, the >network gets REALLY slow. I've upgraded the RAM in the server to 96MB (will This won't help much with netatalk. Netatalk uses very little RAM. Some production servers (10baseT) I've build have only 16MB, and achieve >1MB Sec transfer rates with asun's TCP netatalk. >be 128 when I get the next chip), I'm going to add a hub (two already, but >pretty full), and I'm going to put the server on a shorter length of cable >(about 50' right now, but shouldn't even matter under 300', right?). I'm The length of ethernet cable does not affect speed in any way. What will increase overall network bandwidth is a switched hub, but only if your traffic patterns should alot of inter-machine traffic. It 90% of your traffic is between the macs and the server you will not see any speed improvement, unless your switching hub as a 100BaseT port, and the server is on 100BaseT ethernet. >running Slackware 2.0.30, and netatalk 1.4b2. I would like to use asun's >stuff, but no luck so far with compiling (still working through 6,000,000 >emails :) ). 2.0.30 has major bugs in memory management in the kernel, which affect high seped networking and disk access sometiong chronic. I would recommend upgrading the kernel to 2.0.32. >BUT, I have a feeling that the ne2000 clone may be a major factor. I'm >going to get a new nic, and I'm wondering if any of you have a >recommendation. The quality of NE2000 Clones varies wildly, but I've not had any problems as long as the card works at all. As for alternatives I can highly recommend any recent Digital Chipset card, using either the DE45x or Tulip drivers (depending on manufacturer) >The server is an AMD K5-PR100, with isa and pci. The network is 10MB >ethernet. So far, all clients are MACS, but I'm expecting to add some PC's. The Number 1 biggest speed killer is IDE hard drives. Even with Intel Triton chipset bus mastering, 50% of processor time is taken up in transfers to and from the hard drive. Add that to the overhead in performing checksuming on your Appletalk packets (the checksuming routines for tcp in the kernel are faster than the appletalk ones), and you end up with slower performance that you'd want. I would expect you'd be getting around 500MB/sec on this machine. Upgrading to asun and using tcp should increase this to arond 900M/sec. If you use SCSI hard drives and a controler like an Advansys, or Adaptec 2940 (of its many variants) etc then you should except around 650M/sec on appletalk and 1050MB sec on tcp. Processor overhead for a SCSI card is usualy in the 6% region. The Digital Prioris server I am currently using achieves the maximum theoretical rate of 1250MB/sec as verified by Helios LanTest 2. This has an on-board Adaptec Ultra-Wide dual channel adapter talking to ultra-wide hard drives (hdparm gives 9.7MB/sec from the hard drives) As for 100BaseT networking, you will need more RAM as this requires larger buffers to operate efficiently (32MB should do it, unless the machine has other tasks to perform), you require SCSI, and fast hard drives, and a PCI 100BaseT Ethernet card. Avoid Intel EtherExpress Pro 100's. They do not work. I would recommend a Digital chipset based card (D-Link, SMC, Digital etc). You also need a pretty decent motherboard with good throughput if your going to attempt to use the machine for anything else, the throughput on most PC motherboards is around the 35MB/Sec mark, when you are trying to push data around at 20MB/sec (10MB from HD->RAM, 10MB from RAM->Ethernet) A server in a pre-press house I set up, with an Advansys SCSI card (SCSI-II Fast, not Ultra), 6 4GB Hard drives, 100BaseT Digital ethernet card and P200. HD transfer speeds are 7MB sec, and ethernet transfer speeds are 5.5MB sec (verified by Helios Lantest). When this was put in place, 2.0.30 was the current kernel release and we had problems getting raid working, and out of memory errors when trying to format drives larger than 4GB, plus most of the fast ethernet cards we tried crashed with buffer overflows after a while, therefore we were stuck with what worked, which was a slower system than what we originaly anticipated. These problems have been fixed in 2.0.32. With raid 0 over two SCSI controlers, which should increase the hard driver transfer rates to around 14MB/sec. I would expect to be able to saturate 100BaseT ethernet with this machine. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 11 20:02:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA18673 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:02:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA18669 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:01:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id UAA11824 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:01:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id UAA11820 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:01:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA11774 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:01:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id CAA14340; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 02:01:27 +0100 Message-ID: <35051519.B3F97614@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:25:29 +0100 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Armstrong CC: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] thanks .. atalkd startup References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello Jason, Jason Armstrong wrote: > Something else which puzzles me is the nbprgstr and nbpunrgstr > programs, I had to restart my whole computer before it seemed to > register, I can't just stop and restart the atalkd as I would normally > expect using linux. It is S91atalkd in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d. I read in one > of the HOW-TOs that this should be started before networking, which is > S10network. This is a little problematic when administering from a > remote site, I need to reboot the machine, something I have come to > expect from Windows but not from Linux. Or am I getting it wrong? I suspect, You should upgrade your kernel. Previous kernels have a but regarding appletalk, which prevents clean appletalk interface shutdown. Although You might compile appletalk as a module and unload/reload that, You would be better off with a newer kernel. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 03:33:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id DAA26103 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 03:33:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA26097 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 03:33:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA20578 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 03:33:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA20566 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 03:33:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA20532 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 03:33:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-64.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.64]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA07920; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 01:31:30 -0800 Message-Id: <199803120931.BAA07920@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] umich's netatalk status (or lack) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 00:29:50 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Please be careful not to offend the umich netatalk people. The ideas is NOT to offend the umich folks, as they have undoubtedly laid a valuable foundation for netatalk, but it is not a big secret that support from their side rivals 'nil' at this point. I have, in the past, sent several e-mails to their provided address, and have never received a single response, and their page, and project has not significantly changed in a very long time. If they have reduced their workload, or priority on this porject, I would at least expect a note in accordance on the web-site. Thus, yes, I too would be interested in status on umich's part, but lacking any reasonbale response from them, I'd suggest showing no concerning in taking the reigns of the project, and developing it further, or spinning off a new distribution entirely. Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 05:24:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA27955 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:24:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA27951 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:24:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA20960; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:24:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA20958 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:24:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from Tequila.MIDRAS.de (Tequila.MIDRAS.de [194.121.54.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id FAA20954 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:24:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3507C595.EB23A2CB@MIDRAS.de> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:23:19 +0000 From: Jochen Haeberle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Managing netatalk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I am installing netatalk in a rather busy environment. I have problems shutting down the services and getting it up again. I do have a script atalk in a Sys V way that I can call as "atalk start", but I cannot restart it after some changes to the config files with "atalk start" I get errors nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out Can't register Linux-FTP-Server:Workstation@* nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out Can't register Linux-FTP-Server:netatalk@* Is there a way to restart the netatalk services without rebooting the machine? BTW: Is there a way to know which and how many users are using the shared volumes on my Linux box? I am using Linux 2.0.32 on Intel as the netatalk 1.4b2 server and Mac OS 8 and 8.1 clients. Thanks for your help Jochen From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 05:29:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA28721 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:29:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA28694 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:29:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA21361; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:29:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA21359 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:29:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from Tequila.MIDRAS.de (Tequila.MIDRAS.de [194.121.54.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id FAA21355 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:29:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3507C6CB.C45185E9@MIDRAS.de> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:28:30 +0000 From: Jochen Haeberle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Compiling netatalk-1.4b2+asun Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, after the kind help from the list yesterday, I got netatalk 1.4b2 with the patches from asun. But I got problems compiling it. in the Main Makefile I commented out the PAMDIR line which got rid of one error. But now I am missing the file sys/quota.h I installed the quota source for my Linux 2.0.32 and found the missing file as /usr/src/linux-2.0.32/include/linux/quota.h I guess I only need a symlink from this file but I don't know where to point it to. Could anyone please help me again? Jochen From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 05:37:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA05991 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:37:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA05754 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:37:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA01009; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:37:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA01007 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:37:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from prawn.amxdigital.com (dns0.amxdigital.com [195.238.161.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id FAA00999 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:37:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from phong.amxdigital.com by prawn.amxdigital.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) id DAA03213; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 03:28:37 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980312103636.00d76510@amxdigital.com> X-Sender: jon@amxdigital.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:36:36 +0000 To: Jochen Haeberle , "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" From: Jonathan Peterson Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Compiling netatalk-1.4b2+asun In-Reply-To: <3507C6CB.C45185E9@MIDRAS.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 11:28 AM 3/12/98 +0000, Jochen Haeberle wrote: >Hi, > >I installed the quota source for my Linux 2.0.32 and found the missing file as >/usr/src/linux-2.0.32/include/linux/quota.h I guess I only need a symlink from >this file but I don't know where to point it to. > >Could anyone please help me again? Re-read the README.LINUX file. At the end it says: 6. Quota support should work under linux now. If you're using a version of glibc > 970627 snapshot or libc > 5.4.34, you can comment out the -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER in sys/linux/Makefile This might help solve your problem. Let me know! -------- Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 Internet Developer When she told me I was average, she was just being mean. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 05:43:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA13474 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA13240 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:43:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA01539; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:43:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA01537 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:43:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from prawn.amxdigital.com (dns0.amxdigital.com [195.238.161.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id FAA01533 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 05:43:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from phong.amxdigital.com by prawn.amxdigital.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id DAA03233; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 03:35:07 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980312104306.00d9cadc@amxdigital.com> X-Sender: jon@amxdigital.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:43:06 +0000 To: From: Jonathan Peterson Subject: [netatalk-admins] tcpwrapper In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980312103636.00d76510@amxdigital.com> References: <3507C6CB.C45185E9@MIDRAS.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sorry to be ignorant, but what are TCPwrappers, and why does Netatalk highly recommend them? Are they a security thing or a speed thing (or both?) and where can I get them. Thanks, -------- Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 Internet Developer When she told me I was average, she was just being mean. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 06:27:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA16238 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:27:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA16232 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:27:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA04904; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:27:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA04902 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:27:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA04897 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:27:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (vivek@malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by malkav.imaginet.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA02352; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:26:14 GMT Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:26:13 +0000 (GMT) From: Vivek To: Jochen Haeberle cc: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Managing netatalk In-Reply-To: <3507C595.EB23A2CB@MIDRAS.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Jochen Haeberle wrote: > I am installing netatalk in a rather busy environment. I have problems > shutting down the services and getting it up again. I do have a script atalk > in a Sys V way that I can call as "atalk start", but I cannot restart it after > some changes to the config files with "atalk start" I get errors > nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out > Can't register Linux-FTP-Server:Workstation@* > nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out > Can't register Linux-FTP-Server:netatalk@* > > Is there a way to restart the netatalk services without rebooting the machine? 1] Compile the ddp stuff in as a module, then: Kill the daemon, rmmod the ddp stuff, [and insmod it again if you don't have kerneld up] Start the daemon. Or: 2] Go to kernel 2.0.33 which should fix the atalkd stop/start problem... > BTW: Is there a way to know which and how many users are using the shared > volumes on my Linux box? The afpd processes will run as the connected users - one per user, plus one master running as root. Hope this helps... -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 07:00:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA17147 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:00:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA17141 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:00:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA28505; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:00:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA28503 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:00:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ocee.groupsys.com (ocee.groupsys.com [155.229.202.35]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA28494 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:00:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from ocee.groupsys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ocee.groupsys.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA10816; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:00:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803121200.HAA10816@ocee.groupsys.com> To: Jonathan Peterson Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] tcpwrapper In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:43:06 GMT." <3.0.1.32.19980312104306.00d9cadc@amxdigital.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 07:00:16 -0500 From: William LeFebvre Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu You wrote: > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:43:06 GMT > From: Jonathan Peterson > To: > Subject: [netatalk-admins] tcpwrapper > > > Sorry to be ignorant, but what are TCPwrappers, and why does Netatalk > highly recommend them? Are they a security thing or a speed thing (or > both?) and where can I get them. It's a security thing. It originally started as a program that "wrapped" itself around inetd applications. Inetd is reconfigured (through inetd.conf) to invoke the wrapper first, which then execs the service program. But before running the service program the wrapper checks the peer address against a list of rules found in /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny to see if that host is allowed for this service. The access is also logged, and the connection is checked for any use of IP source routing. The routines that parse the files and perform the actual checking were pulled out and placed in a separate library---libwrap---so that they could be easily embedded in other daemon applications which were not controlled by inetd. The library is what netatalk wants to use. You can get tcpwrappers from the COAST archive at purdue: ftp to coast.cs.purdue.edu and look in /pub/tools/unix/tcp_wrappers. William LeFebvre Group sys Consulting +1 770 813 3224 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 08:31:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA19202 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:31:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA19197 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:30:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA23906; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:30:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA23899 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:30:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from Tequila.MIDRAS.de (Tequila.MIDRAS.de [194.121.54.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id IAA23889 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:30:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3507F10E.536D64F5@MIDRAS.de> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:29:14 +0000 From: Jochen Haeberle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Peterson CC: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Compiling netatalk-1.4b2+asun References: <3.0.1.32.19980312103636.00d76510@amxdigital.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, thanks for your fast reply, but it did not help. -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER in sys/linux/Makefile is already commented out in the release of netatalk I got. Jochen Jonathan Peterson wrote: > > At 11:28 AM 3/12/98 +0000, Jochen Haeberle wrote: > >Hi, > > > > >I installed the quota source for my Linux 2.0.32 and found the missing > file as > >/usr/src/linux-2.0.32/include/linux/quota.h I guess I only need a symlink > from > >this file but I don't know where to point it to. > > > >Could anyone please help me again? > > Re-read the README.LINUX file. At the end it says: > > 6. Quota support should work under linux now. If you're using a > version of glibc > 970627 snapshot or libc > 5.4.34, you can > comment out the -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER in sys/linux/Makefile > > This might help solve your problem. Let me know! > > -------- > Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 > Internet Developer > > When she told me I was average, she was just being mean. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 08:43:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA19658 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:43:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA19654 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA27469; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:43:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA27467 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:43:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from Tequila.MIDRAS.de (Tequila.MIDRAS.de [194.121.54.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id IAA27461 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:43:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3507F43A.CB2E78F6@MIDRAS.de> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:42:48 +0000 From: Jochen Haeberle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Peterson CC: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Compiling netatalk-1.4b2+asun References: <3.0.1.32.19980312103636.00d76510@amxdigital.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, perhaps the line in README.LINUX means I should unncomment -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER? But if I do so I get a compiler error very fast saying make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/sys/linux' Makefile:2: *** missing separator. Stop. make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/sys/linux' make: *** [all] Error 2 So that is probably not the way to go. Jochen Jonathan Peterson wrote: > > At 11:28 AM 3/12/98 +0000, Jochen Haeberle wrote: > >Hi, > > > > >I installed the quota source for my Linux 2.0.32 and found the missing > file as > >/usr/src/linux-2.0.32/include/linux/quota.h I guess I only need a symlink > from > >this file but I don't know where to point it to. > > > >Could anyone please help me again? > > Re-read the README.LINUX file. At the end it says: > > 6. Quota support should work under linux now. If you're using a > version of glibc > 970627 snapshot or libc > 5.4.34, you can > comment out the -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER in sys/linux/Makefile > > This might help solve your problem. Let me know! > > -------- > Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 > Internet Developer > > When she told me I was average, she was just being mean. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 09:40:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA21322 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:40:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA21318 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:40:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA12578 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:40:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA12574 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:40:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from wheat.farm.niu.edu (wheat.farm.niu.edu [131.156.99.4]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA12558 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:40:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from [131.156.7.61] (moe.acs.niu.edu [131.156.7.61]) by wheat.farm.niu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07951; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:40:13 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: z954043@wheat.farm.niu.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3507F43A.CB2E78F6@MIDRAS.de> References: <3.0.1.32.19980312103636.00d76510@amxdigital.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:40:06 -0600 To: Jochen Haeberle From: Brian Bergstrand Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Compiling netatalk-1.4b2+asun Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Hi, > >perhaps the line in README.LINUX means I should unncomment >-DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER? But if I do so I get a compiler error very fast >saying > >make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/sys/linux' >Makefile:2: *** missing separator. Stop. >make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/sys/linux' >make: *** [all] Error 2 > >So that is probably not the way to go. > >Jochen > [snip] No, you should uncomment it, but the def has to be on it's own line. Here are the top 4 lines of my /sys/linux/Makefile file: # Linux specific defines, passed to subdirectories. DEFS=-DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER OPTOPTS= -O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized #OPTOPTS= -g -fsigned-char Brian Brian Bergstrand Network Specialist - ACS Northern Illinois University 815-753-8547 bbergstrand@niu.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 10:41:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA23666 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:41:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA23659 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:41:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA19169 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:30:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA13442; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:30:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA13432 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:30:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from prozac.eeap.cwru.edu (prozac.EEAP.CWRU.Edu [129.22.56.185]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA13416 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:30:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from wes@localhost) by prozac.eeap.cwru.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) id IAA11529 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:30:01 -0500 From: Wes Brown Message-Id: <199803121330.IAA11529@prozac.eeap.cwru.edu> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] tcpwrapper To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:30:00 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199803121200.HAA10816@ocee.groupsys.com> from "William LeFebvre" at Mar 12, 98 07:00:16 am X-URL: http://prozac.student.cwru.edu/wes/About.me.html X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:43:06 GMT > > From: Jonathan Peterson > > To: > > Subject: [netatalk-admins] tcpwrapper > > > > > > Sorry to be ignorant, but what are TCPwrappers, and why does Netatalk > > highly recommend them? Are they a security thing or a speed thing (or > > both?) and where can I get them. > > It's a security thing. It originally started as a program that > "wrapped" itself around inetd applications. Inetd is reconfigured > (through inetd.conf) to invoke the wrapper first, which then execs the > service program. But before running the service program the wrapper > checks the peer address against a list of rules found in > /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny to see if that host is allowed > for this service. The access is also logged, and the connection is > checked for any use of IP source routing. > > The routines that parse the files and perform the actual checking > were pulled out and placed in a separate library---libwrap---so > that they could be easily embedded in other daemon applications > which were not controlled by inetd. The library is what netatalk > wants to use. Something that I have been wondering, but have not taken the time to read the source to find out is what is the prefix for the /etc/hosts.deny /etc/hosts.allow file that can wrap out just netatalk? I would guess it is one of the following: netatalk:ALL atalkd:ALL afpd:ALL Does it only work for AppleShareIP? Wes --- Wes Brown ewb4@po.cwru.edu wes@prozac.cwru.edu http://prozac.cwru.edu/wes/About.me.html KB8TGR From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 10:41:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA23718 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:41:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA23667 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:41:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA19422 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:36:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA21428; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:36:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA21426 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:36:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from prozac.eeap.cwru.edu (prozac.EEAP.CWRU.Edu [129.22.56.185]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA21422 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:36:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from wes@localhost) by prozac.eeap.cwru.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) id IAA11591 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:36:16 -0500 From: Wes Brown Message-Id: <199803121336.IAA11591@prozac.eeap.cwru.edu> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Managing netatalk To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:36:16 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "Vivek" at Mar 12, 98 11:26:13 am X-URL: http://prozac.student.cwru.edu/wes/About.me.html X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Jochen Haeberle wrote: [snip] > > BTW: Is there a way to know which and how many users are using the shared > > volumes on my Linux box? > > The afpd processes will run as the connected users - one per user, plus > one master running as root. > > Hope this helps... > -- > fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex There is a perl script called nu that I saw at http://thehamptons.com/anders/netatalk/ The text just above the first full horizontal line on that page: Want to know who's logged on a netatalk server? Try nu. #!/usr/bin/perl # nu - by Anders Brownworth anders@thehamptons.com # # shows netatalk users logged on # # usage: nu # # I'm sure I'll get some options in there at some point! @users = `ps aucx | grep afpd`; print "Netatalk users:\n---------------\n"; foreach $user (@users) { $user =~ /(\S+)/; $n = `grep $1 /etc/passwd`; ($a, $b, $c, $d, $name) = split (/:/, $n); print "$name\n" unless ($name eq "root"); } Wes --- Wes Brown ewb4@po.cwru.edu wes@prozac.cwru.edu http://prozac.cwru.edu/wes/About.me.html KB8TGR From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 10:48:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA24413 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:48:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA24401 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:48:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA17000 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:58:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id GAA26145; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:58:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id GAA26143 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:58:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgw.vtt.fi (mailgw.vtt.fi [130.188.1.6]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA26132 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:58:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from vttmail.vtt.fi (vttmail.vtt.fi [130.188.1.4]) by mailgw.vtt.fi (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12891 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:17:00 +0200 (EET) Received: from val29 (val2102.val.vtt.fi [130.188.40.102]) by vttmail.vtt.fi (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA01453 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:58:04 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980312135654.00a98b70@vttmail.vtt.fi> X-Sender: valpch@vttmail.vtt.fi X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:57:02 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Peter Hjelt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu subscribe From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 11:34:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA29232 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:34:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA29176 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:33:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA27608; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:33:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA27606 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:33:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA27583 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:33:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-10.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.10]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA14175; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:33:21 -0800 Message-Id: <199803121733.JAA14175@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Compiling netatalk-1.4b2+asun Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:31:38 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink To: "Jochen Haeberle" , "Jonathan Peterson" cc: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Jochen, What version of Linux, and most of all *WHAT DISTRIBUTION* are you running? Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 11:37:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA29791 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:37:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA29779 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:37:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA25957; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:37:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA25928 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:37:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from library.ucsf.edu (apollo.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA25915 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:37:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (windy.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.85]) by library.ucsf.edu (8.8.7/8.7.5) with SMTP id IAA24608; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:34:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (han@localhost) by windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id IAA28293; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:42:17 -0800 Message-Id: <199803121642.IAA28293@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> To: Wes Brown cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] tcpwrapper In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:30:00 EST." <199803121330.IAA11529@prozac.eeap.cwru.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:42:17 -0800 From: Michael M Han Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Previously... >Something that I have been wondering, but have not taken the time to read >the source to find out is what is the prefix for the /etc/hosts.deny >/etc/hosts.allow file that can wrap out just netatalk? It's not necessary to read the source. Just the man pages. You should be able to find tcpd(8) and its see-also hosts_access(5). "wrap out"? If you mean deny all netatalk, afpd: ALL in /etc/hosts.deny would do the trick. >Does it only work for AppleShareIP? I doubt that TCP wrappers could cover ddp requests, but don't know for certain. _________ mike (han@library.ucsf.edu) I will not instigate revolution - The collected wisdom of Bart Simpson From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 12:07:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA02339 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:07:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA02335 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:07:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA11292; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:07:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA11287 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:07:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from ocee.groupsys.com (ocee.groupsys.com [155.229.202.35]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA11269 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:07:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from ocee.groupsys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ocee.groupsys.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA11192; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:07:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803121707.MAA11192@ocee.groupsys.com> To: Michael M Han cc: Wes Brown , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] tcpwrapper In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:42:17 PST." <199803121642.IAA28293@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:07:02 -0500 From: William LeFebvre Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu It was written: > >Does it only work for AppleShareIP? > > I doubt that TCP wrappers could cover ddp requests, but don't know for > certain. libwrap doesn't know what appletalk IS. Yes, this will only check IP-based connections. Might be an interesting project to extend libwrap to accomodate Appletalk, however...... :-) Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 12:33:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA03840 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:33:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA03829 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:33:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA29746 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:36:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA28720; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:36:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA28717 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:36:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from ratz.ds.fh-koeln.de ([139.6.141.10]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA28695 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:36:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from pc01 (call4.ds.fh-koeln.de [139.6.141.74]) by ratz.ds.fh-koeln.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA23139; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:34:43 +0100 Message-Id: <199803121634.RAA23139@ratz.ds.fh-koeln.de> X-Sender: owrede@wallace.khm.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Demo Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:34:14 +0100 To: Wes Brown , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Oliver Wrede Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] tcpwrapper In-Reply-To: <199803121330.IAA11529@prozac.eeap.cwru.edu> References: <199803121200.HAA10816@ocee.groupsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 08:30 12.03.98 -0500, Wes Brown wrote: >Something that I have been wondering, but have not taken the time to read >the source to find out is what is the prefix for the /etc/hosts.deny >/etc/hosts.allow file that can wrap out just netatalk? > >I would guess it is one of the following: >netatalk:ALL >atalkd:ALL >afpd:ALL The last one ist it! You got to put the actual program name there. >Does it only work for AppleShareIP? Because you control a _TCP_wrapper with hosts.deny/hosts.allow, you will notice, that it wraps the TCP services. The original AppleTalk istself is running on top of DDP (instead of TCP), so it won't be affected. You can verify that in /etc/services But Internet-Routers usually do not route DDP, so you'll be stick to your subnet anyway! Oliver . causa formalis . . . Bruesseler Platz 15 . . owrede@causa-formalis.de . . informationsdesign . 50674 Koeln, Germany . www.causa-formalis.de . . . . . . . . . . . . . . tel +49 221 9522 600 . fax: 605 . . . . . . . . . From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 13:31:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA06482 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:31:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA06477 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:31:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA21297; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:31:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA21246 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:31:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.silverchair.com (mail.silverchair.com [208.6.87.51]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA21181 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:31:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from [208.6.87.61] by mail.silverchair.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:31:14 -0500 Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and OS 8.1 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 98 13:43:51 -0500 x-sender: anthonyj@mail.silverchair.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Anthony Johnston To: "[netatalk-admins]" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1322413022-26770140@mail.silverchair.com> Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I just installed the upgrade to MacOS 8.1 and now my shared volumes are doing the "skipping icons" thing. This was a problem with our NT server and I had a lot of people convinced that Linux was way cooler because it didn't do things like that (and because it is much faster). But as we get ready to migrate towards 8.1 I will need to find a solution to this problem. Anybody have any thoughts? Also I would be really interested in hearing about peoples experiences with RAID and netatalk. I just started working for this company and the old sys admin had them going down the NT path. I would like to change that. It is a little disconcerting that umich is apparently not "supporting" the distribution, but should I be worried? Thanks, Anthony Johnston System Administrator Silverchair Science & Communications From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 13:51:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA08002 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:51:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA07995 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:51:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA18052; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:51:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA18035 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:51:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from prawn.amxdigital.com (dns0.amxdigital.com [195.238.161.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id NAA18016 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:51:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from phong.amxdigital.com by prawn.amxdigital.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) id LAA03965; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:42:52 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980312185053.00740480@amxdigital.com> X-Sender: jon@amxdigital.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:50:53 +0000 To: Anthony Johnston , "[netatalk-admins]" From: Jonathan Peterson Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and OS 8.1 In-Reply-To: <1322413022-26770140@mail.silverchair.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 01:43 PM 3/12/98 -0500, Anthony Johnston wrote: >I just installed the upgrade to MacOS 8.1 and now my shared volumes are >doing the "skipping icons" thing. >ready to migrate towards 8.1 I will need to find a solution to this >problem. Anybody have any thoughts? get the asun version, this seems to have an effective cure: ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/public/asun/ Available as patches or new source tree. Various folk have found the patches hard to use, so you might want the source tree. Note, the Makefile in the source tree is not the same as the 'official' dist (1.4b2), so you'll need to read the docs. >that. It is a little disconcerting that umich is apparently not >"supporting" the distribution, but should I be worried? Only if someone creates a superior product for NT..... I'm not aware of anything beyond the default 'services for Mac', which is pretty basic. -------- Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 Internet Developer When she told me I was average, she was just being mean. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 13:52:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA08055 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA08044 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:51:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA29816; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:51:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA29810 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:51:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.nmc.siu.edu (orion.nmc.siu.edu [131.230.35.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA29793 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:51:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fleming@localhost) by orion.nmc.siu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.4) id MAA22504; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:51:45 -0600 From: "Paul M. Fleming" Message-Id: <199803121851.MAA22504@orion.nmc.siu.edu> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and OS 8.1 To: anthonyj@silverchair.com (Anthony Johnston) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:51:44 -0600 (CST) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <1322413022-26770140@mail.silverchair.com> from "Anthony Johnston" at Mar 12, 98 01:43:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > I just installed the upgrade to MacOS 8.1 and now my shared volumes are > doing the "skipping icons" thing. This was a problem with our NT server > and I had a lot of people convinced that Linux was way cooler because it > didn't do things like that (and because it is much faster). But as we get > ready to migrate towards 8.1 I will need to find a solution to this > problem. Anybody have any thoughts? Have you applied the "Dancing Icons" patches from umich (or have the latest asun) > > Also I would be really interested in hearing about peoples experiences > with RAID and netatalk. I just started working for this company and the > old sys admin had them going down the NT path. I would like to change > that. It is a little disconcerting that umich is apparently not > "supporting" the distribution, but should I be worried? I use netatalk/samba/nfs to share 30 GB on a Pentium Pro 200 w/64MB ram and 100BaseT. The RAID is stripped using the Linux md drivers and it works great.. Good response even under load and have had no problems. The only thing is the mac's only show 4GB available (no big deal).. Paul From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 13:54:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA08555 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:54:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA08532 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:54:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA01378; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:54:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA01371 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:54:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.silverchair.com (mail.silverchair.com [208.6.87.51]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA01308 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:54:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from [208.6.87.61] by mail.silverchair.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:54:26 -0500 Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and OS 8.1 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 98 14:07:04 -0500 x-sender: anthonyj@mail.silverchair.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Anthony Johnston To: "Jonathan Peterson" , "[netatalk-admins]" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1322411630-26853897@mail.silverchair.com> Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Jonathan Peterson said something resembling: >>that. It is a little disconcerting that umich is apparently not >>"supporting" the distribution, but should I be worried? > >Only if someone creates a superior product for NT..... I'm not aware of >anything beyond the default 'services for Mac', which is pretty basic. > And too slow too slow too slow. Jeeze, its so slow. ant > >-------- >Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 >Internet Developer > >When she told me I was average, she was just being mean. > From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 13:59:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA09457 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:59:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA09449 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:59:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA03366; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:59:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA03359 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:59:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from gate.etsinc.com (etsisdn.etsinc.com [198.99.189.62]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA03347 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:59:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from webco.etsinc.com by gate.etsinc.com (8.8.7/gate.etsinc.com/01-06-97) id SAA14381; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:58:23 GMT Received: from webco.etsinc.com by webco.etsinc.com (8.6.11/Webco.etsinc.com/10-03-94) id NAA09653; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:51:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:51:50 -0500 (EST) From: Dwight Kelly To: Jonathan Peterson cc: Anthony Johnston , "[netatalk-admins]" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and OS 8.1 In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980312185053.00740480@amxdigital.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Only if someone creates a superior product for NT..... I'm not aware of > anything beyond the default 'services for Mac', which is pretty basic. Well, a company called Mirimar Systems recently shipped MacLan for Windows NT which provides a AFP fileserver, PAP spooling and printing and the ability to mount a remote AFP server. --- Dwight Kelly Essential Technical Services, Inc. 315 Allen Street Cumming, GA 30130 voice:(770) 889-2848 fax:(770) 889-2624 Internet:dkelly@etsinc.com http://www.etsinc.com From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 14:04:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA10027 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:04:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA10016 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:04:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA05278; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:04:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA05250 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:04:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.silverchair.com (mail.silverchair.com [208.6.87.51]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA05202 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:03:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from [208.6.87.61] by mail.silverchair.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2); Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:03:42 -0500 Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and OS 8.1 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 98 14:16:19 -0500 x-sender: anthonyj@mail.silverchair.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Anthony Johnston To: "Paul M. Fleming" cc: "[netatalk-admins]" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1322411074-26887331@mail.silverchair.com> Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am getting the patches now. If you knew how much trouble I have had trying to track down the file I needed to fix this problem with the NT server... But if I can get a Linux box set up here with RAID, and continue to show them that its better, I won't have to worry about NT anything anymore. What kind of file sharing are you doing? Graphics, or database stuff? We are a small (but rapidly expanding) book publisher, so we use a lot of bandwidth with graphics and I am putting together OPI like database thing using 4D that will be getting A LOT of use. Glad to know that there is a patch available, and that I have gotten such a quick response. ant Paul M. Fleming said something resembling: >> >> I just installed the upgrade to MacOS 8.1 and now my shared volumes are >> doing the "skipping icons" thing. This was a problem with our NT server >> and I had a lot of people convinced that Linux was way cooler because it >> didn't do things like that (and because it is much faster). But as we get >> ready to migrate towards 8.1 I will need to find a solution to this >> problem. Anybody have any thoughts? > >Have you applied the "Dancing Icons" patches from umich (or have the latest >asun) > >> >> Also I would be really interested in hearing about peoples experiences >> with RAID and netatalk. I just started working for this company and the >> old sys admin had them going down the NT path. I would like to change >> that. It is a little disconcerting that umich is apparently not >> "supporting" the distribution, but should I be worried? > >I use netatalk/samba/nfs to share 30 GB on a Pentium Pro 200 w/64MB ram and >100BaseT. The RAID is stripped using the Linux md drivers and it works >great.. Good response even under load and have had no problems. The only >thing >is the mac's only show 4GB available (no big deal).. > >Paul > From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 14:13:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA11074 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:13:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA11054 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:13:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA28455; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:13:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA28445 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:13:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.nmc.siu.edu (orion.nmc.siu.edu [131.230.35.1]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA28427 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:13:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fleming@localhost) by orion.nmc.siu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.4) id NAA19740; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:13:12 -0600 From: "Paul M. Fleming" Message-Id: <199803121913.NAA19740@orion.nmc.siu.edu> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and OS 8.1 To: anthonyj@silverchair.com (Anthony Johnston) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:13:12 -0600 (CST) Cc: fleming@nmc.siu.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <1322411074-26887331@mail.silverchair.com> from "Anthony Johnston" at Mar 12, 98 02:16:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > But if I can get a Linux box set up here with RAID, and continue to show > them that its better, I won't have to worry about NT anything anymore. > > What kind of file sharing are you doing? Graphics, or database stuff? We > are a small (but rapidly expanding) book publisher, so we use a lot of > bandwidth with graphics and I am putting together OPI like database thing > using 4D that will be getting A LOT of use. The machine is the primary file server for SIU's Interactive Multimedia Program. The machine handles LARGE files easily. We've been able to digitize video at full NTSC 15fps across switched 100BaseT to the netatalk server. The machine serves file space to two SGI O2 workstations that are VERY VERY demanding and the machine doesn't even break a sweat... Our biggest problem isn't the server itself it's the AppleTalk protocol. I haven't switched to asun's ASIP, but the server is capable of a sustained 3.4MB/s across the network to the SGIs (TCP) If your interested I have LOTS of suggestions for someone interested in duplicating our efforts, but I won't post that here unless others on the list are interested. Contact me via email if you want more info... Paul From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 14:40:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA13879 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:40:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA13872 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:40:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA20102; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:40:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA20098 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:40:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id OAA20054 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:40:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15145; Thu, 12 Mar 98 19:39:52 GMT Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:32:01 GMT From: John Barry -Technician Received: from sue (sue.tees) by scorch; Thu, 12 Mar 98 19:28:22 GMT Date: Thu, 12 Mar 98 19:27:29 GMT Message-Id: <28048.9803121927@sue> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and OS 8.1 Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > Only if someone creates a superior product for NT..... I'm not aware of > > anything beyond the default 'services for Mac', which is pretty basic. > > Well, a company called Mirimar Systems recently shipped MacLan for Windows > NT which provides a AFP fileserver, PAP spooling and printing and the > ability to mount a remote AFP server. *Yawn* IRIX 6.x has this builtin as part of the standard install, The school of Design here uses that to access their files on the Onyx. Not that it's that good, I distrust anything that will only let you do admin via an windowed apllication, rather than directly editing on the command line. Remarkably easy to set up and maintain though. later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 15:00:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA14902 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:00:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA14898 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:00:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA16430; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:00:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA16425 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:00:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from gate.etsinc.com (etsisdn.etsinc.com [198.99.189.62]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA16419 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:00:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from webco.etsinc.com by gate.etsinc.com (8.8.7/gate.etsinc.com/01-06-97) id UAA14585; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:00:29 GMT Received: from webco.etsinc.com by webco.etsinc.com (8.6.11/Webco.etsinc.com/10-03-94) id OAA09910; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:53:57 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:53:57 -0500 (EST) From: Dwight Kelly To: John Barry -Technician cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and OS 8.1 In-Reply-To: <28048.9803121927@sue> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, John Barry -Technician wrote: > *Yawn* IRIX 6.x has this builtin as part of the standard install, The school > of Design here uses that to access their files on the Onyx. Correct, that is Xinet's KShare, KFS and KSpool products. --- Dwight Kelly Essential Technical Services, Inc. 315 Allen Street Cumming, GA 30130 voice:(770) 889-2848 fax:(770) 889-2624 Internet:dkelly@etsinc.com http://www.etsinc.com From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 15:53:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA18114 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:53:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA18103 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:53:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA08698; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:53:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA08694 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:53:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA08684 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:53:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id MAA19470; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:53:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:53:26 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: William LeFebvre cc: Michael M Han , Wes Brown , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] tcpwrapper In-Reply-To: <199803121707.MAA11192@ocee.groupsys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, William LeFebvre wrote: > It was written: > > >Does it only work for AppleShareIP? > > > > I doubt that TCP wrappers could cover ddp requests, but don't know for > > certain. > > libwrap doesn't know what appletalk IS. Yes, this will only check > IP-based connections. Might be an interesting project to extend > libwrap to accomodate Appletalk, however...... :-) Why? ddp internets don't interconnect the way IP ones do (they aren't on the whole-planet scale). So all the ddp packets you'll get are from your neighboors, be they within your university or workplace. If you're having breakins from THEM, you've got REAL problems. :-) Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 15:58:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA18657 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:58:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA18636 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:58:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA22215; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:58:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA22205 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:58:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from ocee.groupsys.com (ocee.groupsys.com [155.229.202.35]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA22194 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:58:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ocee.groupsys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ocee.groupsys.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA11426; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:58:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803122058.PAA11426@ocee.groupsys.com> To: Bill Studenmund cc: Michael M Han , Wes Brown , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] tcpwrapper In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:53:26 PST." Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:58:07 -0500 From: William LeFebvre Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Bill wrote: > > libwrap doesn't know what appletalk IS. Yes, this will only check > > IP-based connections. Might be an interesting project to extend > > libwrap to accomodate Appletalk, however...... :-) > > Why? > > ddp internets don't interconnect the way IP ones do (they aren't on the > whole-planet scale). So all the ddp packets you'll get are from your > neighboors, be they within your university or workplace. If you're having > breakins from THEM, you've got REAL problems. :-) Oh, so you trust all the undergrads with their in-dorm connections to not try afp/ddp spoofing to break in to your Appletalk servers? Most security experts (this includes physical security as well) agree that the greatest threat usually lies within an organization. I'm not saying that the threat really justifies extending libwrap, I just thought it would be an interesting exercise. Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 16:01:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA19034 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:01:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA19018 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:01:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA15971 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:19:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA25130; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:19:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA25118 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:19:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from school.cs.indiana.edu (school.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.252.119]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA25110 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:19:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (brbothwe@localhost) by school.cs.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/IUCS_2.16) with SMTP id PAA02558 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:19:02 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: school.cs.indiana.edu: brbothwe owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:19:02 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Eric Bothwell To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and OS 8.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Dwight Kelly wrote: > On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, John Barry -Technician wrote: > > > *Yawn* IRIX 6.x has this builtin as part of the standard install, The school > > of Design here uses that to access their files on the Onyx. > > Correct, that is Xinet's KShare, KFS and KSpool products. > > --- > Dwight Kelly > Essential Technical Services, Inc. > 315 Allen Street Cumming, GA 30130 > voice:(770) 889-2848 fax:(770) 889-2624 Internet:dkelly@etsinc.com > http://www.etsinc.com > But KShare doesn't come as part of the standard 6.* distribution does it?? I was told when we upgraded both our SGI's from 5.3 to 6.2 that KShare was *extra*. (So I D/L'ed the free demo version, which is limited to 60 minutes a session) -Brian From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 16:14:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA20540 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:14:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA20523 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:14:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA16921; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA16919 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.nmc.siu.edu (orion.nmc.siu.edu [131.230.35.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA16910 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:14:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fleming@localhost) by orion.nmc.siu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.4) id PAA21996 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:14:32 -0600 From: "Paul M. Fleming" Message-Id: <199803122114.PAA21996@orion.nmc.siu.edu> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and OS 8.1 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:14:32 -0600 (CST) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: from "Brian Eric Bothwell" at Mar 12, 98 03:19:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > > But KShare doesn't come as part of the standard 6.* distribution does it?? > I was told when we upgraded both our SGI's from 5.3 to 6.2 that KShare was > *extra*. (So I D/L'ed the free demo version, which is limited to 60 > minutes a session) > > -Brian If you buy a Studio 02 i know it comes with the bundle. Supposedly CAP compiles under IRIX, but I've not spent a lot of time with it. If you really want SGI <-> Mac connectivity CAP would be the no cost solutions. Paul From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 18:36:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA25245 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:36:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA25235 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:36:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA18072; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:36:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA18066 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:36:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA18059 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:36:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id AAA12479 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:35:59 +0100 Message-ID: <35087071.4CEB8A21@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:32:01 +0100 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk list Subject: [netatalk-admins] Managing netatalk - with a user-friendly interface Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu My fellow administrators, With this message I would like to open a discussion about user friendly netatalk management interface ideas and solutions. I think, to make users' life easier - and thus netatalk even more popular - we would need a user friendly management interface for netatalk related management issues, like: - network management - user management - volume management - spool management - [place your entry here] - etc. (whatever extensions people might came up with for netatalk - like OPI) I suppose, most of the actual users of netatalk services are average Mac users, and they tend to have a need to get management (and usually, all other) issues offered to them in a nice, clickable, graphical manner. [I am almost afraid to confess, that sometimes it might even make life easier for some of us. :)] Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 19:14:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA26729 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:14:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA26715 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:14:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA23401 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:25:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA25874; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:25:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA25868 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:25:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA25862 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 17:25:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from saul2.u.washington.edu (asun@saul2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.21]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA49212 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:25:49 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by saul2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) id OAA24793; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:25:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:25:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803122225.OAA24793@saul2.u.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <3506E88C.C918975B@freeside.elte.hu> (message from Andras Kadinger on Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:39:57 +0100) Subject: [netatalk-admins] current netatalk plans Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu i thought i'd clue people into my current plans for my patches to netatalk. these plans are all somewhat contingent upon available time. in addition, some of them are very much in the long-term view of things. the scoop on my part: 1) i'll probably merge in the new solaris driver if the folks at umich don't mind. i had planned on doing it by just merging against 1.4b3, but i haven't received a reply on when that will appear. i know there's still a problem with setsockopt(SO_BROADCAST) as of the 971027 snapshot. wes? 2) i'll probably add in things like timeouts and finer scale control of number of users, etc at some point. 3) i'll probably add stubs to afpd to talk to a file catalogue daemon for lookup and updating directories. the catalog daemon will probably take a little longer to actually write. this should solve three problems of which i'm aware: a) we should be able to add in persistent file id's. b) we should be able to tag filename lengths as short (11 mac chars), medium (31 mac chars), and long (255 unicode chars). this should help prepare afpd for long filename support. c) directory lookups should get faster. 4) more preparation for long filename unicode support. a spec doesn't really exist yet, but i can pretty much guess some of the bits that need changing. the folks at apple say that a few of the functions will need continuations due to afp/asp restrictions, but that should be easy enough to handle. 5) merge in of ascii mappings so that netatalk and samba interact better. i asked the folks at whistle for their patches, but i haven't received them yet. this will probably munged with #4 to some extent. 6) make afpd buildable without appletalk support needed. this should allow many more machines to use afpd. 7) OPI support. as far as i can, all that really needs to be done is to make the printing OPI aware. that is, papd and psf need to recognize OPI comments and substitute files on the fly. what other uses are OPI servers used for? -a From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 22:00:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA29838 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:00:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA29822 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:00:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA27497 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:37:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA02340; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:37:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA02338 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:37:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA02329 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 19:36:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA17421; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:36:28 GMT Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:36:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Richard Mann cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] custom netatalk folder icon? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The icons are defined in etc/afpd/desktop.c and icon.h. desktop.c contains the 'demon' icon and icon.h contains the various generic volume icons. I'm not sure exactly what format they are in, but bear in mind that if you look at an icon resource in ResEdit there is normally a small and large version of an icon at each of three colour depths (1 bit, 4bit, 8bit). There is also a transparency mask at both sizes which IIRR is common to all the colour depths. On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Richard Mann wrote: > Is there a way to permanently switch the generic > icon that is created, when a file with no resource > fork is copied to a netatalk folder? > > The attached method is ok for folders, since there are > relatively few of them (though it would be nice to > have a global way of changing them, too.) But it would > be great to be able to set the generic file icon, > so that files copied to the netatalk volume will take > on that icon. -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 12 23:13:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id XAA01340 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:13:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA01336 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:13:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id XAA19852; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:13:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id XAA19850 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:13:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhub1.cc.columbia.edu (mailhub1.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.137]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA19846 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:13:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from [128.59.135.108] (amlai.wien.rhno.columbia.edu [128.59.135.108]) by mailhub1.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA13005 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:13:24 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: aml61@amlai2.wien.rhno.columbia.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:13:22 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Albert Lai Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >> >> I just installed the upgrade to MacOS 8.1 and now my shared volumes are >> doing the "skipping icons" thing. This was a problem with our NT server >> and I had a lot of people convinced that Linux was way cooler because it >> didn't do things like that (and because it is much faster). But as we get >> ready to migrate towards 8.1 I will need to find a solution to this >> problem. Anybody have any thoughts? > >Have you applied the "Dancing Icons" patches from umich (or have the latest >asun) I too am having the "Dancing Icons" problem. I have tried both the umich patches and the asun ones, and I still have the problem. I am running netatalk on RedHat 5.0 and MacOS 8.1 on the Mac. Not sure what's going on on my machine. Haven't had the chance to try them on the stock MacOS 8 though. Any ideas? Thanks. \\\|||/// | | ( @ @ ) ********************************************oooO****(_)****Oooo********* * Albert Lai SEAS Columbia University * * Wien Residential Computer Consultant * * e-mail: amlai@columbia.edu http://www.columbia.edu~aml61 * * aml61@columbia.edu http://amlai.wien.rhno.columbia.edu * * AOL: LaiAlbert@aol.com 5637 SW 38th St. * * 601/2 Wien Hall Topeka, KS 66610-1259 * * 411 West 116th St. Ph: (913)273-6780 * * New York, NY 10027-7201 .oooO * * Ph: (212)853-7575 ( ) Oooo. * *************************************************\ ( ( )************* \_) ) / (_/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 00:35:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id AAA10900 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:35:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA10854 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:35:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id AAA20669; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:35:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id AAA20666 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:35:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from typeline.com (www.typeline.com [209.116.143.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA20658 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:35:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from typeline.com (typeline.com [209.116.143.131]) by typeline.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA19943 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:34:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from web@typeline.com) Message-ID: <3508C563.167EB0E7@typeline.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 00:34:27 -0500 From: Typeline Webmaster Organization: Typeline, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Trouble with nbprgstr... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu We've got a CAP server on our Network and have been playing with Netatalk for the past few weeks. I really like Netatalk. It's Much easier to configure than CAP. For some reason CAP has come back to haunt us. After getting Netatalk up and running *while* the CAP server was still on our net, Netatalk refuses to complete the registration part in the startup script after we take the CAP server down. With an early version of FreeBSD, we had to us UAR, a software based router to get CAP to work. It seems like atalkd is relying on the UAR router to get network information. With the router, atalkd creates the atalkd.conf file as: fxp0 -phase 2 net 97 -addr 97.12 -zone "MyZone" Without the router it's: fxp0 -phase 2 net 0-65536 -addr 97.130 With the UAR router we did specify a separate zone, "MyZone". It seems as though Netatalk needs this zone to complete an nbprgstr. I don't understand why it fails to complete the registration process in the netatalk.sh script when the default zone "*" is the target. Please help. I'm really stuck on this. Thanks Bob From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 04:16:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA14675 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 04:16:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA14671 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 04:15:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA29104; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 04:15:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA29102 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 04:15:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id EAA29098 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 04:15:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18887; Fri, 13 Mar 98 09:15:45 GMT Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:09:49 GMT From: John Barry -Technician Received: from tom (tom.tees) by scorch; Fri, 13 Mar 98 09:06:11 GMT Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 09:05:26 GMT Message-Id: <3773.9803130905@tom> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and OS 8.1 Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, > If you buy a Studio 02 i know it comes with the bundle. Supposedly CAP compiles > under IRIX, but I've not spent a lot of time with it. If you really want > SGI <-> Mac connectivity CAP would be the no cost solutions. Ahh, that would be why then, we've got loads of O2's. As for CAP, I spent the better part of a day trying, in vain, to compile the damn thing, certain bits worked, others just bombed out no matter what I tried. Gave up, installed netatalk instead... later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 04:40:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA15411 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 04:40:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA15406 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 04:40:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id EAA15291; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 04:40:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id EAA15289 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 04:40:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgw.vtt.fi (mailgw.vtt.fi [130.188.1.6]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA15285 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 04:40:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from vttmail.vtt.fi (vttmail.vtt.fi [130.188.1.4]) by mailgw.vtt.fi (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22054 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:58:32 +0200 (EET) Received: from val29 (val2102.val.vtt.fi [130.188.40.102]) by vttmail.vtt.fi (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA22313 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:39:31 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980313113821.00a3f610@vttmail.vtt.fi> X-Sender: valpch@vttmail.vtt.fi X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:38:29 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Peter Hjelt Subject: [netatalk-admins] Odd nbprgstr problems with 1.4b2/FreeBSD 2.2.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Got a itchy problem with netatalk 1.4b2 straight out of the ports collection of FreeBSD 2.2.5, using the stock appletalk drivers from the 2.2.5 kernel. I installed the server, and brought it up on my production-network for testing, a network full of busy macs, afp servers, routers, zones, whatnot .. and it worked flawlessly from the start. Very smooth, in fact. Now, once I move it to a more quiet network with just one or two macs, possibly an old afp server .. or a network with just one idle mac (7.5.3), starting out with a nulled atalkd.conf, I get the following error: # nbprgstr -p 4 foo:Workstation npb_rgstr: Operation timed out Can't register foo:Workstation@* nbprgstr broadcasts the name (because the mac worksations immediately see it in their choosers), but then nbprgstr is expecting a reply it is not getting for one reason or another. It's timing out in the select() call at line 109 of nbp_rgstr.c when waiting for appletalk datagrams as a response to the broadcast annoucing the name .. I'm not sure if there are any packets directed to the server as I don't have a sniffer able to analyze appletalk .. and the kernel driver for netatalk/appletalk for FreeBSD has no debug/trace options. Still, I don't see any reason the sock macs on the network would not respond as supposed to. I increased the timeout to 20 seconds just to make sure, but it obviously never receives any packets on the appletalk datagramsocket listening for ATADDR_ANYNODE. The only odd part about this is that the server works (!) when moved back to my busy network, if it didn't I would be suspecting the kernel drivers, NIC, and whatnot. The server uses a 3Com 900 XL NIC (vx device). What am I overlooking? What response is it expecting? From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 04:45:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA15749 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 04:45:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA15741 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 04:45:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id EAA15780; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 04:45:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id EAA15777 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 04:45:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from argus (argus.ukerna.ac.uk [193.62.83.62]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA15761 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 04:45:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from arien by argus with SMTP (XT-PP) with ESMTP; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:44:39 +0000 Received: from localhost (actually host 194.82.141.254) by arien with SMTP (XT-PP); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:44:36 +0000 Received: from [194.82.141.246] (forsyth.ukerna.ac.uk) by localhost (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17365; Fri, 13 Mar 98 09:44:30 GMT X-Sender: ncm@arien.ukerna.ac.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <16314.9803031919@tom> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:44:25 +0000 To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk, netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Neil Morris Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: 1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 compile problem. Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 19:19 +0000 3/3/98, John Barry -Technician wrote: >Hi folks, >I posted late last week about being unable to compile afpd from the asun18.2 >distribution on a SunOS 4.1.4 box. The problem is apparenlty due to >libatalk/compat/inet_aton.c This file isn't detailed enough, if you delete >it and replace it with: >ftp.maths.tcd.ie:/src/eoin-tmp/guile/guile-1.2/libguile/inet_aton.c >then, as if by magic it will compile, link and run as God intended :) > >The one slight kink is that you'll have to compile that particular file with >gcc (cc doesn't like it...) > >Do a full make, when it dies in etc/afpd trying to run the linker, cd to >libatalk, delete the archive (*.a) files, replace compat/inet_aton.c and >compile with gcc -c -O5 inet_aton.c then cd back to the root of the >distribution >and run make again. I also have problems compiling 1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 on a SunOS 4.1.4 box.... Making all for sunos... gcc -DBSD4_3 -D_POSIX_MAPPED_FILES -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -DKERNEL -D` arch -k` -c at_sun.c In file included from ../../include/netatalk/ddp_var.h:9, from at_sun.c:23: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:55: sys/bitypes.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `at_sun.o' Current working directory /home/ncm/admin_software/netatalk/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2 .0a18.2/sys/sunos *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all' Any idea where bitypes.h can be found? Also I saw mention somewhere that I might need cdefs.h as well? We are currently using netatalk-1.3.3 which as far as I can remember compiled without problems. I've tried compiling netatalk-1.4b2 which compiles withough complaint. Neil From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 05:56:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA02856 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:56:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA02852 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:56:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA10474; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:56:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA10472 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:56:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from Tequila.MIDRAS.de (Tequila.MIDRAS.de [194.121.54.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id FAA10466 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 05:56:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <350911C0.BF823812@MIDRAS.de> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:00:28 +0100 From: "Jochen Häberle" Reply-To: joh@MIDRAS.de Organization: MIDRAS Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Typeline Webmaster CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Trouble with nbprgstr... X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <3508C563.167EB0E7@typeline.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi Bob, I think I had similar problems with zones and several routers on the LAN. But I never had the situation of netatlak refusing to complete the registration. My problems came from the side that the clients had to reconnect and services were interrupted. What I did was to build my own atalkd.conf file with the exact data. I use the -seed command to establish the exact same zone from within netatalk. Important are the values for the network, so the zones are identical. My entry looks like this: eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 0-100 -addr 10.175 -zone "*" most important is the -net 0-100. Make sure to use the same range as in the other router. Have a look at man atalkd for more information on the config file and why netatlk may fail on boottime when a router disagrees on the values. Jochen Typeline Webmaster wrote: > > We've got a CAP server on our Network and have been playing with > Netatalk > for the past few weeks. I really like Netatalk. It's Much easier to > configure than CAP. For some reason CAP has come back to haunt us. After > getting Netatalk up > and running *while* the CAP server was still on our net, Netatalk > refuses to complete the registration part in the startup script after we > take the CAP server down. > > With an early version of FreeBSD, we had to us UAR, a software based > router to get CAP to work. It seems like atalkd is relying on the UAR > router to get network information. With the router, atalkd creates the > atalkd.conf file as: > > fxp0 -phase 2 net 97 -addr 97.12 -zone "MyZone" > > Without the router it's: > > fxp0 -phase 2 net 0-65536 -addr 97.130 > > With the UAR router we did specify a separate zone, "MyZone". It seems > as though > Netatalk needs this zone to complete an nbprgstr. I don't understand why > it > fails to complete the registration process in the netatalk.sh script > when the > default zone "*" is the target. > > Please help. I'm really stuck on this. > > Thanks > Bob From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 07:16:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA04213 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:16:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA04209 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:16:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA14075; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:16:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA14073 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:16:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgw.vtt.fi (mailgw.vtt.fi [130.188.1.6]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA14069 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:16:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from vttmail.vtt.fi (vttmail.vtt.fi [130.188.1.4]) by mailgw.vtt.fi (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04035; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:34:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from val29 (val2102.val.vtt.fi [130.188.40.102]) by vttmail.vtt.fi (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA15940; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:15:16 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980313141409.00b28300@vttmail.vtt.fi> X-Sender: valpch@vttmail.vtt.fi X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:14:13 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Peter Hjelt Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: Hack for FreeBSD nbprgstr Was: Trouble with nbprgstr... Cc: Typeline Webmaster Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >With the UAR router we did specify a separate zone, "MyZone". It seems >as though Netatalk needs this zone to complete an nbprgstr. I don't >understand why it fails to complete the registration process in the >netatalk.sh script when the default zone "*" is the target. Ah, got your message about nbprgstr problems about at the same time I posted my message titled "Odd nbprgstr problems with 1.4b2/FreeBSD 2.2.5" earlier today; we both seem to suffer from nbprgstr 1.4b2 not being able to register names on the default zone under FreeBSD. Here is what I came up with to fake it (note: this is a mere hack, not the solution .. it will, however, work until someone else on the list can explain to us what's actually going wrong and what the real fix is supposed to be). Apply this patch in /usr/ports/net/netatalk/work/netatalk-1.4b2/libatalk/nbp/ and recompile/install ../../etc/afpd/afpd and ../../bin/nbp/nbprgstr --- nbp_rgstr.c Fri Mar 13 12:57:39 1998 +++ nbp_rgstr.c Fri Mar 13 13:09:02 1998 @@ -109,9 +109,13 @@ if (( cc = select( s + 1, &readfd, 0, 0, &timeout )) < 0 ) { return( -1 ); } + /* + * FreeBSD 2.2.5 nozone hack by MXV of EFnet (mxv@iterate.com) + * fake successful NBPOP on timeout .. definitely dirty + */ if ( cc == 0 ) { - errno = ETIMEDOUT; - return( -1 ); + close( s ); + return( 0 ); } namelen = sizeof( struct sockaddr_at ); This leaves some odd side-effects when unregistering the names, but for regular server use it's doing it's job, letting the server register itself even as there are no routers/zones chattering on the network. Hint: you might want to copy the VAX-icon over the default globe one in afpd/icon.h before recompiling afpd .. will get you a cute BSD'ish devil on your desktops keeping our flag high =) // enjoy - MXV From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 07:37:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA04693 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:37:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA04688 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:37:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id HAA00891; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:37:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id HAA00889 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:37:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from esoc.esa.de (com24.esoc.esa.de [131.176.86.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id HAA00884 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 07:37:09 -0500 (EST) From: nobroin@esoc.esa.de Received: by esoc.esa.de (8.6.12/ESARLY1.16) id MAA17018; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:36:51 GMT Received: from esocmail3.dev.esoc.esa.de(131.176.51.30) by com24.esoc.esa.de via smap (V3.1.1) id xma017016; Fri, 13 Mar 98 12:36:47 GMT Received: by esocmail1.esoc.esa.de(Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) id 412565C6.00451673 ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:34:37 +0100 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ESA To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Message-ID: <412565C6.0044B060.00@esocmail1.esoc.esa.de> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:35:51 +0100 Subject: [netatalk-admins] Linux Penguin logo for netatalk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu O.K. - I've just seen a BSD'er tell another to use the VAX icon in icon.h as it's a nice BSD like demon. We Linux people can't possibly stay a step behind the BSD'ers for much more than a day. So, does anyone have a Linux Penguin logo in this form ? Failing that, can anyone tell me how to produce a logo in this form (I'm sure I've seen a program on a Sun which turns some kind of pixmap into a C declaration, but I don't remember where and I imagine it's the wrong format) and I'll do it myself. Kindest regards, Niall O Broin UNIX Network Administrator Ground Systems Engineering Department European Space Operations Centre nobroin@esoc.esa.de Darmstadt, Germany Ph./Fax +49 6151 90 3619/2179 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 09:51:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA07613 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:51:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA07601 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:51:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA26266; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:51:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA26253 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:51:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk (lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.120.6]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA26199 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:51:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from dis.strath.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/2.0A) with ESMTP id OAA07492 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:50:57 GMT To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk icons... In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:35:51 +0100." Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:50:57 +0000 Message-ID: <7490.889800657@dis.strath.ac.uk> From: Duncan Sinclair Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu nobroin@esoc.esa.de writes: >O.K. - I've just seen a BSD'er tell another to use the VAX icon in icon.h >as it's a nice BSD like demon. Talking of icons, and I much prefer the BSD icon myself, I read that the CAP people have got a new patch to support colour icons in their desktop database and as a default icon. Surely it's much more important that netatalk doesn't fall behind CAP? Then the Linux and *BSD folks can fight over the best colour icons... :-) Best regards, Duncan Sinclair. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 11:35:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA12363 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:35:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA12356 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:35:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA03227 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:04:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id GAA21873; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:04:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id GAA21870 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:04:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from tootingbec.powervue.com ([205.246.2.119] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA21861 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:04:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from tootingbec.powervue.com (peterg@tootingbec.powervue.com [192.168.2.38]) by tootingbec.powervue.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA05694; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:03:22 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:03:22 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Gutowski To: a sun cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] current netatalk plans In-Reply-To: <199803122225.OAA24793@saul2.u.washington.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > 7) OPI support. as far as i can, all that really needs to be > done is to make the printing OPI aware. that is, papd and > psf need to recognize OPI comments and substitute files > on the fly. what other uses are OPI servers used for? Including an eps file is the easiest case. To my understanding OPI servers are a participant in completing a PostScript stream that goes to a hirez postscript output device. There may be a challenge setting up the OPI server to translate TIF files as well as the other less documented highrez image formats that desktop layout programs (PageMaker, Xpress) accept as placeable images. Peter Gutowski peterg@powervue.com Power-Vue Graphics Complete Electronic Prepress Service & Design West Springfield, Massachusetts (413) 781-5440, fax (413) 731-7650 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 11:36:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA12399 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:36:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA12391 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:36:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA09014 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:36:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA12419; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:36:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA12416 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:36:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from gate.pubserv.com ([208.130.167.4]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id KAA12411 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:36:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by gate.pubserv.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA22102; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:15:22 -0600 Received: from morgana.pubserv.com(204.253.233.11) by gate.pubserv.com via smap (V1.3) id sma022098; Fri Mar 13 09:14:52 1998 Received: from Mufasa.pubserv.com by morgana.pubserv.com with SMTP id AA01561 (5.64+/IDA-1.3.3 for asun@saul2.u.washington.edu); Fri, 13 Mar 98 09:43:33 -0600 Received: from localhost (rich@localhost) by Mufasa.pubserv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA03027; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:43:31 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: Mufasa.pubserv.com: rich owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:43:31 -0600 (CST) From: Richard Mann To: a sun Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] current netatalk plans In-Reply-To: <199803122225.OAA24793@saul2.u.washington.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, a sun wrote: > > i thought i'd clue people into my current plans for my patches to > netatalk. these plans are all somewhat contingent upon available > time. in addition, some of them are very much in the long-term view of > things. > > ... > > 4) more preparation for long filename unicode support. a spec > doesn't really exist yet, but i can pretty much guess some > of the bits that need changing. the folks at apple say that > a few of the functions will need continuations due to > afp/asp restrictions, but that should be easy enough to > handle. Is there a way to prevent the Macs from creating unix-unfriendly names? For example, my favorite nightmare example, was a folder full of files like this: chapter01Art...Saved! chapter02Art...Saved! chapter03Art...Saved? and I think the folder itself had a name with "..." in it. Left idle on the system, the files caused no harm. But when a 0-level dump ran through the directory, it would usually lock up linux with disk errors. Probably nothing you can do, except user education, right? //\ --rich // \ // / \ Richard Mann -- Network Administrator // / / \ P u b l i c a t i o n S e r v i c e s, I n c. \\ / / / Champaign, Illinois, USA 61821 (217) 398-2060 x22 \\ / / \\ / \\/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 11:37:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA12582 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:37:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA12560 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:37:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA07271; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:37:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA07251 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:37:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.silverchair.com (mail.silverchair.com [208.6.87.51]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA07206 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:37:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from [208.6.87.61] by mail.silverchair.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:37:17 -0500 Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 11:49:55 -0500 x-sender: anthonyj@mail.silverchair.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Anthony Johnston To: "Albert Lai" , "[netatalk-admins]" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1322333459-31555692@mail.silverchair.com> Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I haven't applied the patches yet, but I would be very interested in knowing what it is about MacOS or netatalk that causes this problem. I notice that (when viewed from my mac) there seems to be an update of some kind, the number of items listed in the title bar increases by one and very quickly decreases back, the icons in the window do there little dancing thing, and then it pauses. Is this simply a screen refresh or network update, or another crazy AppleTalk anomaly? I haven't looked at the source code for any of this yet, and I probably don't know enough at this point to be much help in that way anyway. I'd be interested in knowing more about this. Anthony Albert Lai said something resembling: >>> >>> I just installed the upgrade to MacOS 8.1 and now my shared volumes are >>> doing the "skipping icons" thing. This was a problem with our NT server >>> and I had a lot of people convinced that Linux was way cooler because it >>> didn't do things like that (and because it is much faster). But as we get >>> ready to migrate towards 8.1 I will need to find a solution to this >>> problem. Anybody have any thoughts? >> >>Have you applied the "Dancing Icons" patches from umich (or have the latest >>asun) > >I too am having the "Dancing Icons" problem. I have tried both the umich >patches and the asun ones, and I still have the problem. I am running >netatalk on RedHat 5.0 and MacOS 8.1 on the Mac. Not sure what's going on >on my machine. Haven't had the chance to try them on the stock MacOS 8 >though. Any ideas? Thanks. > From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 12:20:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA15509 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:20:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA15486 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:19:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA25723; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:19:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA25707 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:19:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from powervue.com ([205.246.2.100]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA25690 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:19:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from 192.168.2.9 (7600A [192.168.2.9]) by powervue.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA21922; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:15:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199803131715.MAA21922@powervue.com> Date: 13 Mar 98 12:21:55 -0500 From: Peter Gutowski Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] current netatalk plans To: BandiT CC: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Peter Gutowski Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu BandiT wrote: > Peter, > > On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Peter Gutowski wrote: > > Including an eps file is the easiest case. To my understanding OPI servers > > are a participant in completing a PostScript stream that goes to a hirez > > postscript output device. There may be a challenge setting up the OPI > > server to translate TIF files as well as the other less documented highrez > > image formats that desktop layout programs (PageMaker, Xpress) accept as > > placeable images. > > What image formats do You use in your workflow You really need OPI support > for? Two things come to mind: 1) to answer your question directly the only other real "format" would be a Scitex CT. 2) The "variations" within the various TIF file type would all need to be addressed. Along a similar line, there is a so-called "5 file DCS Format" which is a split up hirez-type EPS format. The client page layout application places a small, lorez EPS file that contains information linking it to the hirez components. eg. FILENAME SIZE (K) TYPE -------- -------- ---- myfile 100 K /* lorez file for placing, & quick proofing */ myfile.C 4526 K /* cyan hirez data channel */ myfile.M 4526 K /* magenta hirez data channel */ myfile.Y 4526 K /* yellow hirez data channel */ myfile.K 4526 K /* black hirez data channel */ In my opinion the OPI server would recognize a few things: whether you were printing separations or composite. In the case of separations, the server would need to discern the separation being printed and to send the appropriate channel's data. Or if hirez composite data was being required (for instance when printing to a high end digital color proofer expecting composite postscript input), the OPI server would need to fold the separations into a single CMYK postscript file. Peter Gutowski Power-Vue Graphics peterg@powervue.com http://www.powervue.com/~peterg From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 13:06:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA17551 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:06:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA17546 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:06:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA19278; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:06:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA19264 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:06:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.silverchair.com (mail.silverchair.com [208.6.87.51]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA19241 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:06:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from [208.6.87.61] by mail.silverchair.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2); Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:06:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 13:18:40 -0500 x-sender: anthonyj@mail.silverchair.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Anthony Johnston To: "a sun" cc: , "[netatalk-admins]" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1322328135-31875909@mail.silverchair.com> Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Wow thanks, after two weeks of needless waiting and run around from various MS support people, I still didn't get any kind of answer to what the problem might be. And please, somebody add it to the FAQ, because I know I'm not the only one who wants to know. Anthony a sun said something resembling: > >this should probably be a FAQ. could people who maintain such things >add it in? here's a synopsis of the skipping icon problem, the >solution, and why the solution doesn't always work: > > 1) in os8, apple is now using more bits of the finder info > field than it did before. netatalk can cleverly do file > typing based upon dot suffixes. to do that, they generate > the appropriate creator/type fields and send them > back. unpatched versions of netatalk-1.4b2 assumed that > sticking 0's in this field would be an all right > thing. > > result: os8 macs see the incorrect finder info field and > try to update it. as this was a "virtual" field > anyway, it never got updated, resulting in constant > attempts to update. > > 2) the solution involves allowing os8 to actually go in and > update the finder info while still generating our own > creator/type fields. > > 3) why doesn't the solution always work? this may be due to a > couple reasons: > a) you're not actually allowed to modify the > appropriate .AppleDouble file. make sure the > .AppleDouble files are modifiable at least long > enough to fix the finder info. > > b) the appropriate .AppleDouble file somehow got > scrambled in a way that isn't easily fixed. your > best bet here is to remove the offending > files. hopefully, they shouldn't have any resource > fields as they represent auto-generated info. > >-a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 13:08:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA17633 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:08:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA17616 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:07:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA13807; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:07:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA13801 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:07:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from kanguruh.ebis.de (kanguruh.ebis.de [194.221.193.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA13769 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:07:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from chameleon (chameleon.ebis.de [194.221.193.98]) by kanguruh.ebis.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA20297 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:08:10 +0100 Message-Id: <199803131908.UAA20297@kanguruh.ebis.de> Reply-To: "Volker Birk" From: "Volker Birk" To: Subject: [netatalk-admins] OPI Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:10:04 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >> 7) OPI support. as far as i can, all that really needs to be we are already working on an OPI solution for Unix. This project is not yet ready to publish, but you should know that. >> on the fly. what other uses are OPI servers used for? Preocessing ICC Information (Color correction). When the first beta release is ready, I will post it on this list - we are planning to create an open project using GPL. This solution mostly consists of a filtering program as you mentioned, and can be used with netatalk, too. VB. -- mailto:vb@ebis.de ebis Informationssysteme Dachsweg 13, 88339 Bad Waldsee, Germany Phone +49-7524-93421 Fax +49-7524-93423 *** File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N) From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 13:10:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA17968 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:10:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA17961 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:10:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA14742; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:10:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA14738 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA14721 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:10:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA03924; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:07:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from UNKNOWN(), claiming to be "current1.whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd003922; Fri Mar 13 10:07:30 1998 Message-ID: <350974DA.41C67EA6@whistle.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:03:06 -0800 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Hjelt CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Odd nbprgstr problems with 1.4b2/FreeBSD 2.2.5 References: <3.0.32.19980313113821.00a3f610@vttmail.vtt.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Peter Hjelt wrote: > > Got a itchy problem with netatalk 1.4b2 straight out of the ports collection > of FreeBSD 2.2.5, using the stock appletalk drivers from the 2.2.5 kernel. without applying the patch pointed to in the 2.2.2 ERRATA.TXT that is found on the ftp site.. > > I installed the server, and brought it up on my production-network for > testing, a network full of busy macs, afp servers, routers, zones, whatnot > .. and it worked flawlessly from the start. Very smooth, in fact. > > Now, once I move it to a more quiet network with just one or two macs, > possibly an old afp server .. or a network with just one idle mac (7.5.3), > starting out with a nulled atalkd.conf, I get the following error: > > # nbprgstr -p 4 foo:Workstation > npb_rgstr: Operation timed out > Can't register foo:Workstation@* > > nbprgstr broadcasts the name (because the mac worksations immediately see > it in their choosers), but then nbprgstr is expecting a reply it is not > getting for one reason or another. > > It's timing out in the select() call at line 109 of nbp_rgstr.c when > waiting for appletalk datagrams as a response to the broadcast annoucing > the name .. > > I'm not sure if there are any packets directed to the server as I don't > have a sniffer able to analyze appletalk .. and the kernel driver for > netatalk/appletalk for FreeBSD has no debug/trace options. Still, I don't > see any reason the sock macs on the network would not respond as supposed to. > > I increased the timeout to 20 seconds just to make sure, but it obviously > never receives any packets on the appletalk datagramsocket listening for > ATADDR_ANYNODE. > > The only odd part about this is that the server works (!) when moved back > to my busy network, if it didn't I would be suspecting the kernel drivers, > NIC, and whatnot. The server uses a 3Com 900 XL NIC (vx device). > > What am I overlooking? What response is it expecting? From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 13:15:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA18688 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:15:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA18666 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:15:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA02042; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:15:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA02036 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:15:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA02029 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:15:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-212-14.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.212.14]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA06493 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:15:26 -0800 Message-Id: <199803131915.LAA06493@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Proposal for Netatalk Support Webpage.... Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:13:35 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink cc: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I a discussion I had with Andras Kadinger this week, he brought up the fact that asun's netatalk implementation is lacking a real web-presence to provide FAQs, support, and, essentially, a home. I agreed, and decided that providing this will be my weekend project. There are several issue I'd like to throw onto the floor first: * What should the site encompass (besides the obvious FAQ, and netetalk files.) * Does anyone know how to contact the folks at umich about this? * Does it even matter (considering their m.o. is to never answer mail)? Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 13:56:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA21241 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:56:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA21237 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:56:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA03703; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:56:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA03701 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:56:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from typeline.com (www.typeline.com [209.116.143.131]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA03696 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:56:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from typeline.com (typeline.com [209.116.143.131]) by typeline.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA07799; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:55:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from web@typeline.com) Message-ID: <35098131.41C67EA6@typeline.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:55:45 -0500 From: Typeline Webmaster Organization: Typeline, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Hjelt CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: Hack for FreeBSD nbprgstr Was: Trouble with nbprgstr... References: <3.0.32.19980313141409.00b28300@vttmail.vtt.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Peter, I thanked God for you and your response to this problem. When I came in this morning and got this message I was totally blown away. The odds of both of us running into the same problem at almost the same time are incredible! Maybe I should go an buy a lottery ticket! Anyway, I applied your patch and the server comes up by itself without relying on any of the other routers. What I recommend for anyone else needing this is to do clean install *after* applying the patch. Since the patch is applied to a library module which is part of libatalk.a, the install will link afpd, nbprgstr, papd, and whatever else is affected. Just got the following thread from Julian Elischer: Peter Hjelt wrote: > > Got a itchy problem with netatalk 1.4b2 straight out of the ports collection > of FreeBSD 2.2.5, using the stock appletalk drivers from the 2.2.5 kernel. without applying the patch pointed to in the 2.2.2 ERRATA.TXT that is found on the ftp site.. I looked but can't find the file he's referring to. Peter Hjelt wrote: > > >With the UAR router we did specify a separate zone, "MyZone". It seems > >as though Netatalk needs this zone to complete an nbprgstr. I don't > >understand why it fails to complete the registration process in the > >netatalk.sh script when the default zone "*" is the target. > > Ah, got your message about nbprgstr problems about at the same time I posted > my message titled "Odd nbprgstr problems with 1.4b2/FreeBSD 2.2.5" earlier > today; we both seem to suffer from nbprgstr 1.4b2 not being able to register > names on the default zone under FreeBSD. > > Here is what I came up with to fake it (note: this is a mere hack, not the > solution .. it will, however, work until someone else on the list can explain > to us what's actually going wrong and what the real fix is supposed to be). > > Apply this patch in /usr/ports/net/netatalk/work/netatalk-1.4b2/libatalk/nbp/ > and recompile/install ../../etc/afpd/afpd and ../../bin/nbp/nbprgstr > > --- nbp_rgstr.c Fri Mar 13 12:57:39 1998 > +++ nbp_rgstr.c Fri Mar 13 13:09:02 1998 > @@ -109,9 +109,13 @@ > if (( cc = select( s + 1, &readfd, 0, 0, &timeout )) < 0 ) { > return( -1 ); > } > + /* > + * FreeBSD 2.2.5 nozone hack by MXV of EFnet (mxv@iterate.com) > + * fake successful NBPOP on timeout .. definitely dirty > + */ > if ( cc == 0 ) { > - errno = ETIMEDOUT; > - return( -1 ); > + close( s ); > + return( 0 ); > } > > namelen = sizeof( struct sockaddr_at ); > > This leaves some odd side-effects when unregistering the names, but for > regular server use it's doing it's job, letting the server register itself > even as there are no routers/zones chattering on the network. > > Hint: you might want to copy the VAX-icon over the default globe one in > afpd/icon.h before recompiling afpd .. will get you a cute BSD'ish devil on > your desktops keeping our flag high =) > > // enjoy - MXV From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 15:42:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA24439 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:42:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA24433 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:42:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA22655 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:34:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA09971; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:34:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA09964 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:34:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from UPIMSSMTPUSR02 (smtp.email.msn.com [207.68.143.138]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA09950 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:34:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from beef - 206.173.203.84 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:34:01 -0800 Message-ID: <000701bd4eb7$04907680$54cbadce@beef> From: "Eric KieslingThompson" To: Subject: [netatalk-admins] 1.4b2+asun and passwords Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:34:17 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I downloaded "netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2" and finally got successful compiles. Unfortunately, no matter what I try, I can't seem to get netatalk to accept my passwords. I've done the obvious, such as add -DSHADOWPW to cflags, to /sys/linux/Makefile, etc., and also everything that I could find in mail from this list. As I said, I am getting successful compiles--no erros or warnings. I have been running 1.4b2 on several systems with no problems. What can I be missisng? The system I'm in most need of upgrading is an AMD k5-pr100, triton mb, running Slackware Linux, kernel 2.0.30. The macs are running 7.5.x. TIA, erict From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 15:42:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA24464 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:42:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA24457 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:42:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA22717; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:35:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA22714 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:35:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA22685; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:35:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803131935.OAA22685@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Harry Zink cc: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Proposal for Netatalk Support Webpage.... In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:13:35 PST." <199803131915.LAA06493@nucleus.fizbin.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:35:07 -0500 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Harry Zink > * Does it even matter (considering their m.o. is to never answer mail)? Actually, Harry, with this one exception, our "m.o." is to never answer *your* email. Given your recent spate of email to netatalk-admins@UMich.EDU, I think you can probably understand why. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 15:43:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA24566 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:43:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA24546 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:43:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA16290 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:33:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA13950; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:33:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA13945 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:33:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA13937 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:33:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from saul7.u.washington.edu (asun@saul7.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.2]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA38998; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:33:10 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by saul7.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) id JAA12587; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:33:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:33:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803131733.JAA12587@saul7.u.washington.edu> From: a sun To: anthonyj@silverchair.com CC: aml61@columbia.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <1322333459-31555692@mail.silverchair.com> (message from Anthony Johnston on Fri, 13 Mar 98 11:49:55 -0500) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu this should probably be a FAQ. could people who maintain such things add it in? here's a synopsis of the skipping icon problem, the solution, and why the solution doesn't always work: 1) in os8, apple is now using more bits of the finder info field than it did before. netatalk can cleverly do file typing based upon dot suffixes. to do that, they generate the appropriate creator/type fields and send them back. unpatched versions of netatalk-1.4b2 assumed that sticking 0's in this field would be an all right thing. result: os8 macs see the incorrect finder info field and try to update it. as this was a "virtual" field anyway, it never got updated, resulting in constant attempts to update. 2) the solution involves allowing os8 to actually go in and update the finder info while still generating our own creator/type fields. 3) why doesn't the solution always work? this may be due to a couple reasons: a) you're not actually allowed to modify the appropriate .AppleDouble file. make sure the .AppleDouble files are modifiable at least long enough to fix the finder info. b) the appropriate .AppleDouble file somehow got scrambled in a way that isn't easily fixed. your best bet here is to remove the offending files. hopefully, they shouldn't have any resource fields as they represent auto-generated info. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 16:00:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA26110 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:00:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA26087 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA16442; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:00:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA16431 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:00:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from maxwell.psy.cmu.edu (MAXWELL.PSY.CMU.EDU [128.2.249.24]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA16424 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:00:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from maxwell.psy.cmu.edu (miericks@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maxwell.psy.cmu.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA09000; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:00:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199803132100.QAA09000@maxwell.psy.cmu.edu> To: "Eric KieslingThompson" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 1.4b2+asun and passwords In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:34:17 PST." <000701bd4eb7$04907680$54cbadce@beef> Reply-To: erickson@cmu.edu Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:00:08 -0500 From: "Michael A. Erickson" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu "Eric KieslingThompson" writes: > I downloaded "netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2" and finally got successful > compiles. Unfortunately, no matter what I try, I can't seem to get netatalk > to accept my passwords. I've done the obvious, such as add -DSHADOWPW to > cflags, to /sys/linux/Makefile, etc., and also everything that I could find > in mail from this list. As I said, I am getting successful compiles--no > erros or warnings. I have been running 1.4b2 on several systems with no > problems. What can I be missisng? I had this problem for a while after upgrading from 1.4b2 to the latest (?) asun release. I found that the problem was not my password, but my username. I had created an entry in my passwd file with Erickson as the username that worked fine in 1.4b2, but once I upgraded, I couldn't mount anything until I changed the username in the passwd file to erickson (even though my username was still listed as Erickson with a captital E in the chooser dialog). Could that be your problem? \MaE Michael A. Erickson erickson@cmu.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 16:05:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA26459 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:05:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA26445 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:05:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA12668; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:05:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA12664 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:05:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA12648 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:05:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14340; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:05:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from rock.me.mtu.edu (root@rock.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.31]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11453; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:05:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from critter.cec.mtu.edu (critter.cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.204]) by rock.me.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id QAA16349; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:05:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:06:09 -0500 (EST) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@critter.cec.mtu.edu To: a sun cc: anthonyj@silverchair.com, aml61@columbia.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: In-Reply-To: <199803131733.JAA12587@saul7.u.washington.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, a sun wrote: > this should probably be a FAQ. could people who maintain such things > add it in? here's a synopsis of the skipping icon problem, the > solution, and why the solution doesn't always work: I thought this was a nice summary and put it on my netatalk-on-solaris mini web page. http://www.cec.mtu.edu/Doc/FAQ/netatalk.html Seemed worth the 10 minutes. :) - edan From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 17:10:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA28296 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:10:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA28287 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:10:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA27719 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:39:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA26680; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:39:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA26674 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:39:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from babba.advancenet.net (babba.advancenet.net [205.198.248.21]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA26665 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:39:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.argus-systems.com (ranger.argus-systems.com [206.221.232.80]) by babba.advancenet.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA28279; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:40:00 -0600 Received: from localhost by mail.argus-systems.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA18043; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:38:46 -0600 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:38:45 -0600 From: Andrew McNabb To: Alistair Riddell cc: Richard Mann , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] custom netatalk folder icon? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Perhaps a sun would be able to add support for external storage (post-compilation) of default icons? I think that it would be a good feature. On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Alistair Riddell wrote: > The icons are defined in etc/afpd/desktop.c and icon.h. desktop.c > contains the 'demon' icon and icon.h contains the various generic volume > icons. > > I'm not sure exactly what format they are in, but bear in mind that if you > look at an icon resource in ResEdit there is normally a small and large > version of an icon at each of three colour depths (1 bit, 4bit, 8bit). > There is also a transparency mask at both sizes which IIRR is common to > all the colour depths. > > On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Richard Mann wrote: > > > Is there a way to permanently switch the generic > > icon that is created, when a file with no resource > > fork is copied to a netatalk folder? > > > > The attached method is ok for folders, since there are > > relatively few of them (though it would be nice to > > have a global way of changing them, too.) But it would > > be great to be able to set the generic file icon, > > so that files copied to the netatalk volume will take > > on that icon. > > -- > Alistair Riddell - BOFH > IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh > Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 > ---------------------------------------------- Andrew McNabb Argus Systems Group amcnabb@argus-systems.com ---------------------------------------------- I am an International Arms Trafficker!!!!! http://online.offshore.com.ai/arms-trafficker/ ---------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 17:12:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA28379 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:12:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA28372 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:12:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA00457; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:12:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA00454 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:11:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA00443 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:11:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id OAA11548; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:11:52 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <00001573.sm@h-e.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Proposal for Netatalk Support Webpage.... Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 14:08:16 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: mail-atalk@fizbin.com (Harry Zink) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 4390 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:11 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sounds like a good idea! The asun version seems to be gaining popularity real fast, having a site dedicated to it would be helpful to a lot of people. > * What should the site encompass (besides the obvious FAQ, and netetalk > files.) I'd like to see an upload area for contributing things like new patches, along the lines of the "other patches" page at the umich site. I've got a couple of things I've done to the code that others might be interested in, but I don't have access to a web or anonymous FTP site where I could post them myself. Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 17:13:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA28451 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:13:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA28433 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:12:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA00709; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:12:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA00703 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:12:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA00633 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:12:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id OAA11567; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:12:08 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <00001570.sm@h-e.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: dancing icons problem Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 13:47:13 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: asun@saul7.u.washington.edu (a sun) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 4290 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:12 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Adrian - Am I correct that your current version has this fix included, no additional patching needed? The "dancing icons" patch from the umich site won't apply to 1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2. Thanks! Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com ______________________________________________ Original message sent on Fri, Mar 13 1:33 AM by asun@saul7.u.washington.edu (a sun) : To: anthonyj@silverchair.com cc: aml61@columbia.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: this should probably be a FAQ. could people who maintain such things add it in? here's a synopsis of the skipping icon problem, the solution, and why the solution doesn't always work: From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 17:23:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA29857 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:23:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA29843 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:23:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA23822; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:23:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA23814 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:23:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from newsgate.dircon.co.uk (uugate1.dircon.co.uk [194.112.50.20]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA23790 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:23:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from nan.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by newsgate.dircon.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.7) with UUCP id WAA04254 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 22:23:00 GMT Received: by mailhost.nan.co.uk (sendmail 8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA10700; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:57:20 GMT X-Sender: sw@mailhost.nan.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199803131715.MAA21922@powervue.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 3.1 Organization: Network Analysis Ltd Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:56:41 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Sak Wathanasin Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] current netatalk plans Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In reply to Peter Gutowski's message of the 13/03/98 at 12:21 -0500, > Two things come to mind: 1) to answer your question directly the only > other real "format" would be a Scitex CT. Whose format is proprietary and can only be obtained from Scitex Corp under NDA. I know - I was responsible for adding Scitex support to the 4-Sight OPi product (4-OPi or whatever the marketing people call it these days). An OPi server seems quite simple in theory, but the devil is in the detail. Just dealing with all the weird and wordeful things in Photoshop and Q Xpress files will keep you busy for a while... > In my opinion the OPI server would recognize a few things: whether you > were printing separations or composite. ... It wouldn't be much use if it didn't. Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK Internet: sw@nan.co.uk Phone: (+44) 1203 419996 Fax: (+44) 1203 690690 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 17:35:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA00931 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:35:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA00920 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:35:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA17610 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:07:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA13765; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:07:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA13759 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:07:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA13743 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:07:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA04021; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:07:31 GMT Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:07:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Peter Hjelt cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Odd nbprgstr problems with 1.4b2/FreeBSD 2.2.5 In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980313113821.00a3f610@vttmail.vtt.fi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Are you sure your atalkd.conf file matches the network? If you move from a network with routes to one without withou removing or changing atalkd.conf then atalkd might get confused. On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Peter Hjelt wrote: > Got a itchy problem with netatalk 1.4b2 straight out of the ports collection > of FreeBSD 2.2.5, using the stock appletalk drivers from the 2.2.5 kernel. > > I installed the server, and brought it up on my production-network for > testing, a network full of busy macs, afp servers, routers, zones, whatnot > .. and it worked flawlessly from the start. Very smooth, in fact. > > Now, once I move it to a more quiet network with just one or two macs, > possibly an old afp server .. or a network with just one idle mac (7.5.3), > starting out with a nulled atalkd.conf, I get the following error: > > # nbprgstr -p 4 foo:Workstation > npb_rgstr: Operation timed out > Can't register foo:Workstation@* > > nbprgstr broadcasts the name (because the mac worksations immediately see > it in their choosers), but then nbprgstr is expecting a reply it is not > getting for one reason or another. > > It's timing out in the select() call at line 109 of nbp_rgstr.c when > waiting for appletalk datagrams as a response to the broadcast annoucing > the name .. > > I'm not sure if there are any packets directed to the server as I don't > have a sniffer able to analyze appletalk .. and the kernel driver for > netatalk/appletalk for FreeBSD has no debug/trace options. Still, I don't > see any reason the sock macs on the network would not respond as supposed to. > > I increased the timeout to 20 seconds just to make sure, but it obviously > never receives any packets on the appletalk datagramsocket listening for > ATADDR_ANYNODE. > > The only odd part about this is that the server works (!) when moved back > to my busy network, if it didn't I would be suspecting the kernel drivers, > NIC, and whatnot. The server uses a 3Com 900 XL NIC (vx device). > > What am I overlooking? What response is it expecting? > -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 19:51:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA02146 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:51:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA02142 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:51:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA03155; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:51:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA03151 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:51:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA03147 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:51:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id QAA18639 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:51:39 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <00001575.sm@h-e.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems with afpd re: locked files and Trash Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 16:44:23 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Cc: bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 4447 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:51 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Help! Here's my setup: Red Hat Linux 5.0 netatalk 1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 MacOS 7.5.5 (AppleShare 3.7.2) and MacOS 8.1 (AppleShare 3.7.4) Ok, first the nasty problem - locked files on afpd volumes aren't really locked! I create a file, save it to an afpd volume, close it. Go to the Finder, Get Info, lock the file. Double-click to open it again, Finder says the usual "file is locked" bit. File appears in the application. Modify something, do command-S -- the file is saved even though locked! Look back in the Finder, the file has indeed been modified (and sometimes it isn't locked anymore). This has not occurred in all applications, some appear to "see" the lock and refuse to save the file. One application in which it does occur is Microsoft Word, which is about 90% of the use here, so this is a serious problem. I can of course "lock" files from the Linux side with "chmod a-w", but that's no solution; it seems like afpd should be doing that itself if it's necessary! Am I missing something? Second problem, less serious but no less annoying - Trash on shared volumes doesn't work. The problem is a volume that is shared by several users won't let most of them use the Trash, they get the message: The item cannot be left in the Trash, do you want to delete it immediately? If I disconnect everybody and "rm -rf 'Network Trash Folder'", then *one* person (whoever gets there first) can get the Trash to work properly, but nobody else can. This of course sounds like a privileges problem, but I've tried everything I can think of on that front. All the users can write files elsewhere in the volume and it's folders, it's only the Trash that doesn't work. I even tried "chmod -R o+rwx 'Network Trash Folder'", but that didn't help, so I'm pretty sure this isn't a case of the Linux filesystem preventing access. I don't know if this is related or not, but /var/log/messages gets these: Mar 13 14:34:10 blackbox PAM_pwdb[1233]: byte lock: Trash Can Usage Map: 0 about the time somebody tries to trash something. BTW, the "PAM_pwdb" should say "afpd", shouldn't it? Looks like a bug in the PAM code in afpd, is it related? These problems just appeared after transitioning to netatalk over the past few days, the old file server was a "real" AppleShare server, 4.2.1 running on a PMac 7600. I don't want to go back, I'm still getting compliments about the 2x speed increase! But if I can't get netatalk to work right... Any suggestions? Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 13 23:11:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id XAA12941 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:11:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA12930 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id XAA06486; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:11:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id XAA06480 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:11:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA06475 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 23:11:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id UAA23752 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:11:13 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <00001577.sm@h-e.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Linux Penguin icon for afpd Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 19:26:30 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Cc: bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 4536 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 20:11 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The attached file will patch etc/afpd/icon.h to add a Linux Penguin logo for the default volume icon, if you want to use it for the default file icon just manually substitute the 32-line block of hex data from the patch file into desktop.c in the obvious place (get rid of the '+' on each line, of course). This is just a standard 256-byte ICN# resource, piece of cake to make one if you know ResEdit. I think I did the logo justice here, but if you don't like it, make your own! Share and Enjoy! Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com P.S. - Forgive my ignorance here, but I've only just upgraded to OS 8.1; how do I get the new Finder to quit substituting it's yucky 3-D color icon so I can see the Penguin?? It shows up fine on 7.5.5 clients. begin 644 afpd-linuxicon.diff M*BHJ(&5T8R]A9G!D+VEC;VXN:"T)5'5E($UA>2`R,"`Q,#HS-3HT,B`Q.3DW M"BTM+2!E=&,O869P9"]I8V]N+F@)1G)I($UAPDO*B!096YG=6EN("HO"BL@("`@(#!X,#`L M(#!X,#`L(#!X,#`L(#!X,#`L(#!X,#`L(#!X,##`L(#!X,"P@,'@P+"`P>#`L(#!X1BP@ M,'A&,"P@,'@P+`H@("`@("`P>#`L(#!X,S`L(#!X0RP@,'@P+"`P>#`L(#!X M0S`L(#!X,RP@,'@P+`HJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BHJ*BH**BHJ(#$X-2PQ.3`@*BHJ M*@HM+2T@,C(R+#(R."`M+2TM"B`@("`@(#!X1D8L(#!X1D8L(#!X1D8L(#!X M1D8L(#!X1D8L(#!X1D4L(#!X1D8L(#!X1D8L"B`@("`@(#!X1D8L(#!X1D,L M(#!X-T8L(#!X1D8L(#!X,"P@,'@P+"`P>#`L(#!X,`H@('T["BL@(V5N9&EF M(&QI;G5X"B`@(V5N9&EF(%])0DU2,@H@("-E;F1I9B!S=6X*("`C96YD:68@ $=F%X"@`` ` end From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Mar 14 03:49:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id DAA18591 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 03:49:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA18587 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 03:49:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA06470; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 03:49:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA06468 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 03:49:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from lab.iterate.com ([194.100.49.225]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA06459 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 03:49:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (peter@localhost) by lab.iterate.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA13251; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:47:47 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from Peter.Hjelt@vtt.fi) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 10:47:47 +0200 (EET) From: Peter Hjelt X-Sender: peter@lab.iterate.com Reply-To: Peter Hjelt To: Typeline Webmaster cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: Hack for FreeBSD nbprgstr Was: Trouble with nbprgstr... (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Just got the following thread from Julian Elischer: > >> without applying the patch pointed to in the 2.2.2 ERRATA.TXT >> that is found on the ftp site.. > > I looked but can't find the file he's referring to. The errata file Julian was referring to is found at: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.2.5-RELEASE/ERRATA.TXT .. and the REAL fix for our problem is at: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.2.5-RELEASE/updates/atalk.diff.2.2 That patch fixes the obviously badly broken appletalk kernel driver for FreeBSD 2.2.5, supposably allowing you to run a clean, unhacked (!) netatalk 1.4b2. Was a miss on my part to not check out the most recent errata before posting halfwit patches to this list. Apologies. // MXV From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Mar 14 04:07:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA19349 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 04:07:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA19345 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 04:07:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA19216; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 04:07:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA19209 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 04:07:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg (qtas0605.singnet.com.sg [165.21.57.75]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA19202 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 04:07:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (khoogc@localhost) by daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA02553 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:11:10 +0800 X-Authentication-Warning: daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg: khoogc owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:11:09 +0800 (SGT) From: KHOO Guan Chen X-Sender: khoogc@daisy Reply-To: KHOO Guan Chen To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] corrupted downloads In-Reply-To: <199803121200.HAA10816@ocee.groupsys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is probably silly, but why can't I download a mac file off the internet, put in into the share folder, copy it out to the mac and expand it with say stuffIt? I have tried a few times and everytime, I get file is corrupted message. Thanks Richard KHOO Guan Chen e-mail: khoogc@singnet.com.sg snail-mail: 38-A, Lorong 23, Geylang, Singapore 388372 From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Mar 14 15:14:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA17459 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:14:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA17446 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:14:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA28647; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:14:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA28638 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:14:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from ocee.groupsys.com (ocee.groupsys.com [155.229.202.35]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA28622 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:14:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ocee.groupsys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ocee.groupsys.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA13722; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:14:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803142014.PAA13722@ocee.groupsys.com> To: KHOO Guan Chen cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] corrupted downloads In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:11:09 +0800." Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 15:14:07 -0500 From: William LeFebvre Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu You wrote: > Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:11:09 +0800 > From: KHOO Guan Chen > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Subject: [netatalk-admins] corrupted downloads > > > This is probably silly, but why can't I download a mac file off the > internet, put in into the share folder, copy it out to the mac and expand > it with say stuffIt? I have tried a few times and everytime, I get file is > corrupted message. If you are downloading it with FTP, then are you doing a binary transfer? If the transfer is not binary, then the file will almost certainly become corrupt. William LeFebvre Group sys Consulting +1 770 813 3224 From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Mar 14 16:09:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA22746 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 16:09:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA22732 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 16:09:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.144.15]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA01788 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:39:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA20597 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:48:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA11777; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:47:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA11771 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:47:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA11763 for ; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:47:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA04917; Fri, 13 Mar 1998 22:47:19 GMT Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 22:47:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu cc: linux-atalk@netspace.org Subject: [netatalk-admins] remind me... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu What is the difficulty with adding utmp/wtmp logging to afpd? If it's not that hard then I might consider doing it. Also, how hard would it be to modify netatalk so that AppleTalk was optional? Obviously with no appletalk support then only afpd would need to be compiled, but would it simply a matter of #ifdef'ing the appletalkisms or is there more to it? -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Mar 14 21:11:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA27469 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 21:11:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA27465 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 21:11:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA11488; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 21:11:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA11485 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 21:11:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA11481 for ; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 21:11:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id SAA14440 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:11:17 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <00001578.sm@h-e.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Update: locked file and Trash problems Date: Sat, 14 Mar 98 17:18:55 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Cc: bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 4581 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:11 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I just compiled and tested the base netatalk 1.4b2 without any asun patches, and it has the same behaviors, allowing writes to locked files and not letting more than one person use the Trash on a shared volume. So this isn't just a problem with asun's version. I'm less concerned than I was about the locked file issue, since the same desired result can be achieved by just changing permissions on the folder containing the file so it is read-only. However the Trash problem is still a biggie. I've done some debugging, but I can't find anything in the code that is Trash-specific other than a fix that makes the DID for "Network Trash Folder" always the same. I can't see how that would cause this problem, if anything it should help. The glitch seems to be with creation of the "Trash Can #N" sub-folders in the "Network Trash Folder", there should be one such folder for every client currently using the Trash. However only the first one ever gets created (it's #2, not #1, although I seem to recall a "real" AppleShare server does the same thing). The next client using the Trash should cause the creation of "Trash Can #3", but this never happens, the client just gets the "Can't be left in Trash" error. However, if I go in from the Linux side and manually create "Trash Can #3", a second person can then use the Trash! I tried this with up to 4 "Trash Can #N" folders and it seemed to work. I thought of "priming" the whole system by creating "Trash Can #N" for all possible users, but the problem is each client removes it's "Trash Can #N" when the volume is un-mounted. Making "Network Trash Folder" itself write-locked would prevent this, but sounds risky. From another angle, a code fix might be to modify afpd to create a "Trash Can #N" for it's client when a volume is mounted. But with either of those solutions, the obstacle is that I don't see how each AppleShare client would know which folder belongs to whom! Is that what the "Trash Can Usage Map" file is for? That file is always zero length, no data or resource just the AD header stuff, so if there is supposed to be anything put in there it isn't getting done. Is that the actual problem here? Hmm, maybe I should fire up the old AS 4.2.1 machine and take a look at what it puts in "Trash Can Usage Map"... Anyway, possible hacks aside, I'm really having trouble believing this is a problem with afpd; having the Trash not work is a HUGE bug yet it isn't mentioned in any FAQ or buglist file. I hope this is just a local configuration problem, but if so I'm at a complete loss as to what I'm doing wrong. HELP?! Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Mar 15 01:22:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id BAA09880 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 01:22:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA09876 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 01:22:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id BAA06727; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 01:22:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id BAA06719 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 01:22:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg (qtas1002.singnet.com.sg [165.21.58.72]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA06711 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 01:22:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (khoogc@localhost) by daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA01718 for ; Sun, 15 Mar 1998 14:26:12 +0800 X-Authentication-Warning: daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg: khoogc owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 14:26:12 +0800 (SGT) From: KHOO Guan Chen X-Sender: khoogc@daisy Reply-To: KHOO Guan Chen To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] corrupted downloads In-Reply-To: <199803142014.PAA13722@ocee.groupsys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Thanks to all who replied. I think I must, in future, remember to give more details, at least, that I did use binary to download. Anyway, Andras Kedinger mentioned that it has to do with CR-LF translation and that is the direction I will be persuing. Great! guys!!! Richard KHOO Guan Chen e-mail: khoogc@singnet.com.sg snail-mail: 38-A, Lorong 23, Geylang, Singapore 388372 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 16 01:37:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id BAA25729 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:37:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA25722 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:36:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id BAA11497; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:36:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id BAA11495 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:36:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from anath.gmp.usyd.edu.au (anath.gmp.usyd.edu.au [129.78.231.201]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA11487 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 01:36:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from gmp.usyd.edu.au (yvain@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by anath.gmp.usyd.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA00903; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:36:29 +1100 Message-ID: <350CC86C.F2C13920@gmp.usyd.edu.au> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:36:28 +1100 From: Chris Albone X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.1.86 ppc) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and samba cooperation References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Andrew McNabb wrote: > It seems to me that it wouldn't be very difficult to write a samba patch > that is netatalk friendly. It could keep track of appledouble, special > characters in filenames, etc. I'm not good enough at programming, but I > would appreciate it if such a patch were available. I've got the beginnings of such a beast here. Currently, we are running CAP and Samba together & we face much the same sort of problem as the folks that run Netatalk and samba. I've hacked at samba a bit so that it knows to create the hidden directories that CAP uses. I also have some (as yet, untested) code that in theory should do the same for a NetAtalk share. I have not investigated the netatalk code very much, so I am at a loss as to how to handle moving and copying of Mac applications under samba. Specifically, I am not entirely sure how to make samba become aware of .AppleDesktop. If there is sufficient interest, I might clean up the patches and send them out to you guys to hack away at. Chris From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 16 05:08:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA28609 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA28604 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:08:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA28496; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:08:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA28494 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:07:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from prawn.amxdigital.com (dns0.amxdigital.com [195.238.161.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id FAA28472 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:07:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from phong.amxdigital.com by prawn.amxdigital.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) id CAA06284; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 02:59:15 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980316100717.00db3b70@amxdigital.com> X-Sender: jon@amxdigital.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:07:17 +0000 To: KHOO Guan Chen From: Jonathan Peterson Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] corrupted downloads Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <199803142014.PAA13722@ocee.groupsys.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 03:14 PM 3/14/98 -0500, William LeFebvre wrote: >You wrote: >> >> This is probably silly, but why can't I download a mac file off the >> internet, put in into the share folder, copy it out to the mac and expand >> it with say stuffIt? I have tried a few times and everytime, I get file is >> corrupted message. > >If you are downloading it with FTP, then are you doing a binary >transfer? If the transfer is not binary, then the file will almost >certainly become corrupt. > Also, make sure that CR/LF translation is turned off in netatalk. By default this is done automatically, and you have to turn it off my uncommenting the line in the Makefile, and re-compiling. I have to say that I think this is a very silly default. How many users are there that use netatalk _only_ for ASCII files?? -------- Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 Internet Developer When she told me I was average, she was just being mean. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 16 05:18:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA29043 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:18:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA29038 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:18:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA29190; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:18:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA29188 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:18:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA29178 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:17:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bandit@localhost) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with SMTP id LAA23204; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:17:20 +0100 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:17:20 +0100 (MET) From: Andras Kadinger To: bsmith@h-e.com cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Update: locked file and Trash problems In-Reply-To: <00001578.sm@h-e.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Bob, I see the same problems with netatalk Trash handling as You do - although I did not research it further -, so I suppose, either we both have the same configuration problem, or this really is a bug. I remember experiencing it with 1.4b2 as well as 1.4b2+asun 18.2. Are others seeing this? Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 16 05:37:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA15486 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:37:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA15276 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:37:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA00412; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:37:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA00410 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:37:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA00404 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:37:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (vivek@malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by malkav.imaginet.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA16104 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:36:11 GMT Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:36:11 +0000 (GMT) From: Vivek To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] corrupted downloads In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980316100717.00db3b70@amxdigital.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 16 Mar 1998, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > Also, make sure that CR/LF translation is turned off in netatalk. By > default this is done automatically, and you have to turn it off my > uncommenting the line in the Makefile, and re-compiling. > > I have to say that I think this is a very silly default. How many users are > there that use netatalk _only_ for ASCII files?? It's only the default translation when it can't determine the file type, although I agree it seems silly to have TEXT/UNIX be the default: I have BINA/ttxt as the default translation, and explicitly set TEXT/whatever only when I've tested that format and extracted it's type/creator from a resource fork. [After being burnt by the TEXT/UNIX thing a few times... ] -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 16 05:47:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA16188 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:47:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA16182 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:47:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA01080; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:47:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA01078 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:47:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from prawn.amxdigital.com (dns0.amxdigital.com [195.238.161.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id FAA01074 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 05:47:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from phong.amxdigital.com by prawn.amxdigital.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id DAA06349; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 03:39:00 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980316104702.00d036fc@amxdigital.com> X-Sender: jon@amxdigital.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:47:02 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Jonathan Peterson Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Update: locked file and Trash problems In-Reply-To: References: <00001578.sm@h-e.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 11:17 AM 3/16/98 +0100, Andras Kadinger wrote: >Bob, > >I see the same problems with netatalk Trash handling as You do - although >I did not research it further -, so I suppose, either we both have the >same configuration problem, or this really is a bug. I can't replicate with the latest asun on my network - This is what I get.... Mac client a connects to the share Temp_store. Mac client b connects to the same share. Client a drags the file foo.gif to the trash can. After a short delay, the file foo.gif disappears from client b's screen. Client b drags bar.gif to the trash can. Client a empties their trash can. Both foo.gif and bar.gif are removed from the server. -------- Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 Internet Developer When she told me I was average, she was just being mean. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 16 07:27:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA18100 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:27:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA18091 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:27:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA09490; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:27:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA09488 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:27:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from sparta.scl.co.uk (sparta.scl.co.uk [163.164.160.4]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA09484 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:27:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from janus.scl.co.uk (modem009.saqnet.co.uk [194.88.73.9]) by sparta.scl.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA11553 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:26:57 GMT Message-Id: <2.2.16.19980316123143.30677484@mail.scl.co.uk> X-Sender: john@mail.scl.co.uk (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:31:43 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: John Sutton Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] current netatalk plans Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This business of "persistent file id's" (3a below) - could somebody please= explain what this means! I'm pretty green about the MacOS file system but= after a number of horrifying episodes I'm beginning to think I need to find= out... For example, I've tried to use aliases on the local fs pointing to= files on a netatalk volume. It works OK some of the time but then= occasionally the alias ends up pointing at a completely different file! I= had thought that an alias was a textual entity (i.e. a soft link in Unix= terms) but I'm clearly wrong. My current problem is not (as far as I know) to do with aliases and I wonder= if this also is a victim of this "persistent file id's" deficiency in= netatalk? (Is this to be counted as a deficiency? Do other AFP= implementations on NT or NetWare for example have the same problem?). = Anyhow, my problem is as follows. I use Eudora with the mailboxes on a= netatalk volume. This works fine so far (touchwood :-) once I'd realised= that I have to put the whole Eudora folder on the netatalk volume and not= simply keep it on the local volume with aliases therein pointing to the= real mailbox files. However, if I try within the Eudora Settings to= specify that the Email Enclosures folder is also over on the netatalk= volume, this works some of the time. But occasionally, when I start up= Eudora, it complains that the Email Enclosures folder does not exist. = Well, it does exist but the link has clearly been broken. I suppose this= comes down to how an application (Eudora in this instance) stores the= reference to a folder which it is supposed to be using? Am I on the right track or is this a Eudora-specific problem? At 14:25 12/03/98 -0800, a sun wrote: > 3) i'll probably add stubs to afpd to talk to a file catalogue > daemon for lookup and updating directories. the catalog > daemon will probably take a little longer to actually > write. this should solve three problems of which i'm > aware: > a) we should be able to add in persistent file id's. > b) we should be able to tag filename lengths as short > (11 mac chars), medium (31 mac chars), and long > (255 unicode chars). this should help prepare afpd > for long filename support.=20 > c) directory lookups should get faster. *************************************************** John Sutton SCL Computer Services URL http://www.scl.co.uk/ Tel. +44 (0) 1239 621021 *************************************************** From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 16 07:57:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA18811 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:57:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA18807 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:57:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA13788; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA13780 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from cheviot.ncl.ac.uk (cheviot.ncl.ac.uk [128.240.233.51]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA13731 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:56:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from bygate.ncl.ac.uk by cheviot.ncl.ac.uk id (8.7.6/ for ncl.ac.uk) with SMTP; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:55:40 GMT Received: (ngmt@localhost) by bygate.ncl.ac.uk (8.6.7/8.6.x-cf revision 8 for SunOS 4.1.x) id MAA22574; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:55:39 GMT From: "Gerry.Tomlinson" Message-Id: <199803161255.MAA22574@bygate.ncl.ac.uk> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] remind me... To: alistair@watsons.edin.sch.uk (Alistair Riddell) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:55:38 +0000 (GMT) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, linux-atalk@netspace.org In-Reply-To: from "Alistair Riddell" at Mar 13, 98 10:47:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > What is the difficulty with adding utmp/wtmp logging to afpd? If it's not > that hard then I might consider doing it. > I raised this with Wes a long time ago - he said: > > We can put records into wtmp at the beginning of the session, after we > know who the user is, but before we change our uid. Putting a second > entry in when we're done is more problematic. I suppose we could keep > the file descriptor open for the whole session, tho that is a little > ugly. > I said: > couldn't the master afpd do the second entry - in the same way that > unix login makes the initial entry and init the second. and he replied: >Well, yes and know. afpd's architecture is kind of broken. The afpd >parent never gets control again, after it asks for the first session. >However, we could insert the code you're talking about in the asp >library. We'd also need to make changes to auth.c for the initial >login line, and in main.c, so that the parent would know whether the >child actually logged in, or just closed the connection after forking. > >Probably doable. Gerry --- Gerry.Tomlinson@newcastle.ac.uk Computing Officer Department of Computing Science, University of Newcastle, Tel: +44 191 222 8139 Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, United Kingdom. Fax: +44 191 222 8232 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 16 09:52:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA21847 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:52:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA21841 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:52:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA20428; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:52:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA20426 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:52:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from wheat.farm.niu.edu (wheat.farm.niu.edu [131.156.99.4]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA20407 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from [131.156.7.61] (moe.acs.niu.edu [131.156.7.61]) by wheat.farm.niu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06992 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:52:33 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: z954043@wheat.farm.niu.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <00001578.sm@h-e.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 08:52:28 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Brian Bergstrand Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Update: locked file and Trash problems Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Bob, > >I see the same problems with netatalk Trash handling as You do - although >I did not research it further -, so I suppose, either we both have the >same configuration problem, or this really is a bug. > >I remember experiencing it with 1.4b2 as well as 1.4b2+asun 18.2. > >Are others seeing this? > I have seen this trash problem happen with netatalk and Netware (afp and ncp) and Netware with the win95 client. It seems that the server can't keep track of what files have been trashed, so it just deletes them automatically (first prompting the user). Can't comment on AppleShare server or NT, since we don't use either here. >Sincerely, >Andras Kadinger >bandit@freeside.elte.hu Brian Brian Bergstrand Network Specialist - ACS Northern Illinois University 815-753-8547 bbergstrand@niu.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 16 14:43:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA01389 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:43:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA01381 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:43:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA26643 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:25:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA00786; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:25:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA00784 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:25:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from homer.bethel.edu (homer.acs.bethel.edu [140.88.128.6]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA00776 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:25:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (turing.acs.bethel.edu [140.88.5.23]) by homer.bethel.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA17151 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:25:44 -0600 (CST) Received: by turing (NX5.67e) id AA03635; Mon, 16 Mar 98 11:25:44 -0600 Message-Id: <9803161725.AA03635@turing> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: "Brad G. Parks" Date: Mon, 16 Mar 98 11:25:38 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] remind me... (wtmp/utmp) References: <199803161255.MAA22574@bygate.ncl.ac.uk> Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Well, I have utmp/wtmp kinda working in afpd. (sample below). I use it a little differently, tho. Users are logged in a utmp file when they connect, but I don't keep any history of when they disconnect. I run the afpd on a secure server (nobody is allowed to telnet or ftp into) so I am able to have that utmp file world writable. The problem I have run into is that I don't always know when a user disconnects. I usually have numerous entries per user. What good does this do for me? Given an AppleTalk address (at least one volume must be mounted NON-AppleTalk-over-IP) I am able to tell which user used that address last or is using it currently. 68> nejama 4.63 LOGIN_PROCESS Tue Mar 3 09:37 69> saucim 7.225 LOGIN_PROCESS Mon Mar 16 11:01 70> -------- 4.108 DEAD_PROCESS Mon Mar 16 09:28 I am currently working on pulling my changes out so I can re-apply them to the latest & greatest asun source. (I've fallen behind.) P.S. the platform I made the changes for is Solaris. -brad parks Unix by day, Nintendo by night Bethel College Acadmic Computing From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 16 17:10:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA06134 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:10:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA06126 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:10:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA26555; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA26553 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:10:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from goddess.coe.missouri.edu (goddess.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.71]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA26519 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:10:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from [128.206.158.52] (baroque.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.52]) by goddess.coe.missouri.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA27061; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:09:42 -0600 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:09:46 -0600 From: Mark Donnelly Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] remind me... To: "Gerry.Tomlinson" , Alistair Riddell cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, linux-atalk@netspace.org In-Reply-To: <199803161255.MAA22574@bygate.ncl.ac.uk> Message-ID: X-Authenticated: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:55:38 +0000 (GMT) Gerry.Tomlinson@newcastle.ac.uk (Gerry.Tomlinson) wrote: >> couldn't the master afpd do the second entry - in the same way that >> unix login makes the initial entry and init the second. > >and he replied: > >>Well, yes and know. afpd's architecture is kind of broken. The afpd >>parent never gets control again, after it asks for the first session. Umm...I might be mistaken, but wouldn't SIGCHLD (signals when a child dies) handle this? From my Linux man 7 signal: SIGCHLD 20,17,18 B Child stopped or terminated Why couldn't this work? --Mark "I think so Brain, but if they called them sad meals, then no one would buy them." From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 16 22:12:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA14293 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:12:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA14289 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:12:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA25441; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:12:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA25435 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:11:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA25420 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 22:11:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id TAA19503 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 19:11:57 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <0000158A.sm@h-e.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Update: locked file and Trash problems Date: Mon, 16 Mar 98 19:08:02 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Cc: bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 5021 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 19:11 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Interesting! That isn't the behavior I'm expecting. The old AppleShare 4.2.1 server gave each client it's own private Trash even though the volume itself was shared. There would be one "Trash Can #N" folder in the "Network Trash Folder" for each client using the Trash on that volume, so Mac A would never see items in the Trash that were put there by Mac B. It appears that this scheme should work with netatalk afpd, but the problem is that the client doesn't create a "Trash Can #N" when it should, it just gives up and deletes the item immediately. I've actually got a work-around in place now, and it seems to be functioning. It involves pre-creating the "Trash Can #N" folders from a shell login and then write-locking "Network Trash Folder" to prevent them from being deleted. But I also had to patch afpd a bit to make it work (I think I might have found a bug there, albeit an obscure one). Once I've done a bit more testing I'll post the details. Thanks to all who replied! Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com ______________________________________________ Original message sent on Mon, Mar 16 2:47 AM by jon@amxdigital.com (Jonathan Peterson) : To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Re: [netatalk-admins] Update: locked file and Trash problems At 11:17 AM 3/16/98 +0100, Andras Kadinger wrote: >Bob, > >I see the same problems with netatalk Trash handling as You do - although >I did not research it further -, so I suppose, either we both have the >same configuration problem, or this really is a bug. I can't replicate with the latest asun on my network - This is what I get.... Mac client a connects to the share Temp_store. Mac client b connects to the same share. Client a drags the file foo.gif to the trash can. After a short delay, the file foo.gif disappears from client b's screen. Client b drags bar.gif to the trash can. Client a empties their trash can. Both foo.gif and bar.gif are removed from the server. -------- Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 Internet Developer When she told me I was average, she was just being mean. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 17 00:12:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id AAA19861 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:12:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA19808 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:11:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id AAA11879; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:11:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id AAA11876 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:11:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA11871 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:11:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id VAA21345 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:11:39 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <0000158B.sm@h-e.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] current netatalk plans Date: Mon, 16 Mar 98 20:19:54 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Cc: bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 5073 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:11 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The same problem that prevents aliases from working is also causing your Eudora troubles. An alias stores a folder location by it's ID number not by it's name, so it isn't really like a Unix symbolic link. Generally when an application remembers a folder it does the same thing, that is it stores the ID number and not the name. Since folder ID numbers are not fixed on afpd volumes, they change for each new connection, so after a re-boot a remembered folder ID can end up pointing to nowhere or to a different folder. (An aside for the programmers: I see in the code that FNUMs for files are derived from Unix inode numbers, so they are more or less fixed; why can't DIDs for folders be derived from the inode numbers of directories? Wouldn't that solve the problem, or at least be a temporary fix until it can be done "right"?) Hope this helps! Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com ______________________________________________ Original message sent on Mon, Mar 16 4:31 AM by john@scl.co.uk (John Sutton) : To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Re: [netatalk-admins] current netatalk plans This business of "persistent file id's" (3a below) - could somebody please= explain what this means! I'm pretty green about the MacOS file system but= after a number of horrifying episodes I'm beginning to think I need to find= out... For example, I've tried to use aliases on the local fs pointing to= files on a netatalk volume. It works OK some of the time but then= occasionally the alias ends up pointing at a completely different file! I= had thought that an alias was a textual entity (i.e. a soft link in Unix= terms) but I'm clearly wrong. My current problem is not (as far as I know) to do with aliases and I wonder= if this also is a victim of this "persistent file id's" deficiency in= netatalk? (Is this to be counted as a deficiency? Do other AFP= implementations on NT or NetWare for example have the same problem?). = Anyhow, my problem is as follows. I use Eudora with the mailboxes on a= netatalk volume. This works fine so far (touchwood :-) once I'd realised= that I have to put the whole Eudora folder on the netatalk volume and not= simply keep it on the local volume with aliases therein pointing to the= real mailbox files. However, if I try within the Eudora Settings to= specify that the Email Enclosures folder is also over on the netatalk= volume, this works some of the time. But occasionally, when I start up= Eudora, it complains that the Email Enclosures folder does not exist. = Well, it does exist but the link has clearly been broken. I suppose this= comes down to how an application (Eudora in this instance) stores the= reference to a folder which it is supposed to be using? Am I on the right track or is this a Eudora-specific problem? From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 17 04:55:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA01602 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 04:55:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA01598 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 04:54:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA05377; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 04:54:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA05375 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 04:54:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (f88.hotmail.com [207.82.250.194]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id EAA05371 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 04:54:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19808 invoked by uid 0); 17 Mar 1998 09:54:54 -0000 Message-ID: <19980317095454.19807.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 130.67.66.171 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:54:53 PST X-Originating-IP: [130.67.66.171] From: "Odd-Jarle Kristoffersen" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Dot-matrix printer Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:54:53 PST Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi everyone, I´ve been reading all the info I could find around the net but still haven´t found a solution to my little problem. Does the Mac support anything but PS printing to netatalk? I have the following setup: netatalk on Linux Parallell printer Star LC2-200 (dot-matrix non-PS type). Macinotshes connected through coax networking. The printer works excellent from Linux printing text-files and so on, but all the prints from the Mac are sent as PS, thius generating a lot of pages withs PS-commands on the printer. Is there any way at all to get the Mac printouts on this printer? I tried Imagewriter for Appletalk too, but it doesn´t even see the Linux printer. Laserwriter 8 finds it. Help much appriciated. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 17 10:22:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA23780 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:22:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA23775 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:22:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA20750 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:15:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id AAA23112; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:15:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id AAA23110 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:15:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from UPIMSSMTPUSR02 (smtp.email.msn.com [207.68.143.138]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA23106 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:15:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from beef - 206.173.202.232 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:14:57 -0800 Message-ID: <000c01bd5163$af43a4e0$e8caadce@beef> From: "Eric KieslingThompson" To: Cc: Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 1.4b2+asun and passwords Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:15:19 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu YOU'RE RIGHT!!! Thank you for the tip. I changed the passwd file username entry so that it started with a small, instead of cap, and it worked. In addition, the chooser login name still started with a cap, just as you had indicated. But this is a problem, right? Why is it doing this? -----Original Message----- From: Michael A. Erickson To: Eric KieslingThompson Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Friday, March 13, 1998 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 1.4b2+asun and passwords >"Eric KieslingThompson" writes: >> I downloaded "netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2" and finally got successful >> compiles. Unfortunately, no matter what I try, I can't seem to get netatalk >> to accept my passwords. I've done the obvious, such as add -DSHADOWPW to >> cflags, to /sys/linux/Makefile, etc., and also everything that I could find >> in mail from this list. As I said, I am getting successful compiles--no >> erros or warnings. I have been running 1.4b2 on several systems with no >> problems. What can I be missisng? > >I had this problem for a while after upgrading from 1.4b2 to the >latest (?) asun release. > >I found that the problem was not my password, but my username. I had >created an entry in my passwd file with Erickson as the username that >worked fine in 1.4b2, but once I upgraded, I couldn't mount anything >until I changed the username in the passwd file to erickson (even >though my username was still listed as Erickson with a captital E in >the chooser dialog). > >Could that be your problem? > >\MaE > >Michael A. Erickson >erickson@cmu.edu > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 17 10:22:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA23797 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:22:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA23782 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:22:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id BAA27539; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:28:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id BAA27537 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:28:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA27515; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:27:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803170627.BAA27515@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: bsmith@h-e.com cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] current netatalk plans In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 16 Mar 1998 20:19:54 PST." <0000158B.sm@h-e.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:27:36 -0500 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: bsmith@h-e.com > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > (An aside for the programmers: I see in the code that FNUMs for files > are derived from Unix inode numbers, so they are more or less fixed; > why can't DIDs for folders be derived from the inode numbers of > directories? Wouldn't that solve the problem, or at least be a > temporary fix until it can be done "right"?) The Mac implementation allows us to return FNUMs that are unique only in the given directory, i.e. the inode number. Since the inode number of the root of any given mounted directory is 2, it's not practical to use inode numbers for DIDs -- in /, say, /usr and /var could both be DID 2. I believe that a correct implementation must save the DIDs and FNUMs as part of the Desktop. A system that uses a separate daemon, a la AUFS, won't work very well in a network file system like NFS or AFS. However, the system must be robust enough to allow both writable and read-only version of the database. I think it's mostly just a lot (a *lot*) of detail work, once it's all spec-ed out. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 17 10:57:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA25926 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:57:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA25910 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:57:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA23350; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:57:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA23347 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:57:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from maxwell.psy.cmu.edu (MAXWELL.PSY.CMU.EDU [128.2.249.24]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA23334 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:57:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from maxwell.psy.cmu.edu (miericks@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maxwell.psy.cmu.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA00270; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:57:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199803171557.KAA00270@maxwell.psy.cmu.edu> To: "Eric KieslingThompson" cc: erickson@cmu.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 1.4b2+asun and passwords In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:15:19 PST." <000c01bd5163$af43a4e0$e8caadce@beef> Reply-To: erickson@cmu.edu Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:57:13 -0500 From: "Michael A. Erickson" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > YOU'RE RIGHT!!! > > Thank you for the tip. I changed the passwd file username entry so that it > started with a small, instead of cap, and it worked. In addition, the > chooser login name still started with a cap, just as you had indicated. > > > But this is a problem, right? Why is it doing this? I took a real quick look at auth.c in the afpd source, and it goes through the username and makes it all lower case. Actually, I consider this a feature as long as it's documented. I'm pretty sure that macintosh usernames are case insensitive. Thus, if you ensure that all your passwd file entries are lower case, this makes the afpd server more like a mac. This might do well to make it into a readme or a faq if it's not already there. (I couldn't find it, but I have had pretty bad luck geting info on netatalk outside of this list.) \MaE Michael A. Erickson erickson@cmu.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 17 12:39:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA01240 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:39:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA01218 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:39:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA11760; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:39:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA11755 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:39:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from typeline.com (www.typeline.com [209.116.143.131]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA11709 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:39:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from typeline.com (typeline.com [209.116.143.131]) by typeline.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA14060 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:37:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from web@typeline.com) Message-ID: <350EB4DC.41C67EA6@typeline.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:37:32 -0500 From: Typeline Webmaster Organization: Typeline, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Server running Netatalk 1.4b2 locks up... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm running FreeBSD 2.2.5 and have applied the atalk.diff.2.2 kernel patch that supposedly fixes the appletalk stack. I've also applied the afpd patch to Netatalk that fixes the volume size problem. Now, every so often and for no apparent reason, the entire server locks up. Without knowing it, we did have afpd startup to support the default 5 user limit. We have since increased the limit to 10 users. Not sure if this has anything to do with the lock ups. Any suggestions? From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 17 13:22:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA03248 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:22:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA03244 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:22:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA22266; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:22:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA22255 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:22:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from cc00ms.unity.ncsu.edu (cc00ms.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.1.35]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA22243 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:22:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from [152.1.11.13] (ivanova.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.11.13]) by cc00ms.unity.ncsu.edu (8.8.4/US19Dec96) with ESMTP id NAA24690 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:22:32 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: user@hesiod Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:22:28 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Everette Gray Allen Subject: [netatalk-admins] Pap conversations with HP 755cm.... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Running pap with postscript filters to talk to serveral models of HP printer with the correct .ppds and having few problems except with a new large format printer/plotter (HP 755cm) with a JetDirect card. Everything works but the page count seems to come back as 0 every time. I have tried all the "m" and "w" versions of ofpap and ifpap but the result is the same print works but page count returned in the accounting file is 0. Does anyone know how the page count is returned (ie what the network conversation looks like)? If the count maybe comming in fractions of a foot instead of pages?? Everette Gray Allen Consultant IV Box 7109 NCState Campus Computing Services Raleigh, NC 27695-7109 919-515-2517 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 17 13:41:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA04192 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:41:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA04185 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:41:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA29128 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:01:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA15186; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:01:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA15182 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from UPIMSSMTPUSR02 (smtp.email.msn.com [207.68.143.138]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA15177 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:01:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from beef - 206.173.203.17 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 09:00:28 -0800 Message-ID: <000401bd51c6$3d1c9620$11cbadce@beef> From: "Eric KieslingThompson" To: Cc: , Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 1.4b2+asun and passwords Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:58:46 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm beginning to feel the weight of my ignorance. I set up my accounts so that certain types, e.g., shared types, start with smalls, and personal accounts start with caps. Just a convenience for me. Some accounts are accessed in multiple fashion: netatatalk, telnet, samba, etc. Until now, I've had no problem with the cases of usernames. If mac networks convert all to lowercase as you indicate, then you're right that this makes the afpd server more like a mac server. In addition, I can see where it would be additional overhead for afpd to try substituting cases, or whatever else would be necessary to overcome this. ummm, why did it work before? I guess I'll go with the flow and convert usernames to lower case. Aside from getting around this particular problem, I still don't understand why usenames should "generally" be lowercase (that's the ignorance at work). But if you say it, and if asun says it, that's good enough for me right now. Luckily, I don't have too many to change, and the users should not have to deal with any changes. :) Thanks for your help. erict -----Original Message----- From: Michael A. Erickson To: Eric KieslingThompson Cc: erickson@cmu.edu ; netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Tuesday, March 17, 1998 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 1.4b2+asun and passwords >> YOU'RE RIGHT!!! >> >> Thank you for the tip. I changed the passwd file username entry so that it >> started with a small, instead of cap, and it worked. In addition, the >> chooser login name still started with a cap, just as you had indicated. >> >> >> But this is a problem, right? Why is it doing this? > >I took a real quick look at auth.c in the afpd source, and it goes >through the username and makes it all lower case. > >Actually, I consider this a feature as long as it's documented. I'm >pretty sure that macintosh usernames are case insensitive. Thus, if >you ensure that all your passwd file entries are lower case, this >makes the afpd server more like a mac. > >This might do well to make it into a readme or a faq if it's not >already there. (I couldn't find it, but I have had pretty bad luck >geting info on netatalk outside of this list.) > >\MaE > >Michael A. Erickson >erickson@cmu.edu > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 17 18:05:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA11636 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:05:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA11629 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:05:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA10691 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:21:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA13774; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:21:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA13739 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:21:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from bucket.fks.lan (bendnet-gw.ees.com [199.2.205.245]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA13670 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:21:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from phluffy.fks.lan (myke@phluffy.fks.lan [10.0.0.2]) by bucket.fks.lan (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05225; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:20:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:20:56 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.fks.lan To: Odd-Jarle Kristoffersen cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Dot-matrix printer In-Reply-To: <19980317095454.19807.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > The printer works excellent from Linux printing text-files and so on, > but all the prints from the Mac are sent as PS, thius generating a lot > of pages withs PS-commands on the printer. Is there any way at all to > get the Mac printouts on this printer? I tried Imagewriter for Appletalk > too, but it doesn´t even see the Linux printer. Laserwriter 8 finds it. > Help much appriciated. Use ghostscript to turn PS into your printer's native graphics format. I use ghostscript with my Epson FX-80 and it works great. I don't have the URL for the ghostscript home page, but try starting at ftp://ftp.cs.wisc.edu/ghost Hope this helps. - Mike From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 18 02:44:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id CAA00614 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 02:44:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id CAA00610 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 02:44:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id CAA16674; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 02:44:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id CAA16672 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 02:44:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from jester.ti.com (jester.ti.com [192.94.94.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id CAA16668 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 02:44:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from king.india.ti.com ([134.183.160.185]) by jester.ti.com (8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA07655 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:44:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from kepler.india.ti.com (kepler [134.183.192.12]) by king.india.ti.com (8.8.5/8.6.10) with ESMTP id NAA25429 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:07:26 +0530 (IST) From: Ravi S Received: (from ravi@localhost) by kepler.india.ti.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) id NAA18719; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:14:37 +0530 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:14:37 +0530 Message-Id: <199803180744.NAA18719@kepler.india.ti.com> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk on SUN Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I just started getting to know about AppleTalk, and in the process came to know about netatalk. I have the following question on netatalk: Can I run netatalk on two SUN (running sunos 4.1) systems and make them communicate using AppleTalk? In short, is it possible to make these two machines behave like two MACs talking to each other through AppleTalk? Best Regards ###################################################################### | Ravi Subramanian | Email: ravi@india.ti.com | | Texas Instruments (India) Ltd | ###################################################################### From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 18 08:39:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA21675 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:39:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA21600 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:39:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA29591; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:39:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA29584 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:39:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from livingstones.nl ([195.240.118.1] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA29545 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:39:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMS-KANTOOR.livingstones.nl ([145.49.233.108]) by livingstones.nl (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id PAA10982 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:42:14 GMT Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:49:13 +0100 Message-ID: <01BD527D.04270E60.chagemans@livingstones.nl> From: Conrad Hagemans Reply-To: "chagemans@livingstones.nl" To: "'netatalk-admins@umich.edu'" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Sharing CD-ROM drive with Netatalk Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:48:52 +0100 Organization: Livingstones Nederland bv X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is there someone who has experiance with sharing a cd-rom player in a linux box with the apple macintosh users? How should this work? The cd-rom is mounted as /cdrom in the root directory. Please help. Conrad Hagemans chagemans@livingstones.nl From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 18 08:55:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA22663 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA22651 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:55:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA09830 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:55:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA09824 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:55:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from prawn.amxdigital.com (dns0.amxdigital.com [195.238.161.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id IAA09779 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:55:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from phong.amxdigital.com by prawn.amxdigital.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id GAA08679; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:46:36 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980318135455.00db8d4c@amxdigital.com> X-Sender: jon@amxdigital.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:54:55 +0000 To: From: Jonathan Peterson Subject: [netatalk-admins] Connecting as guest and user to one resource In-Reply-To: <01BD527D.04270E60.chagemans@livingstones.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This may not be netatalk specific, but.. When I connect to a resource on a server as a registered user, I cannot then access other resources on the same server as a guest. Is there a way around this? I would like people to be able to use a number of 'free for all' areas on the server, as well as the various restricted areas that require proper log on. -------- Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 Internet Developer I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 18 09:16:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA23871 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:16:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA23867 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:16:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA17095 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:16:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA17092 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:16:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from livingstones.nl ([195.240.118.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA17030 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:16:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMS-KANTOOR.livingstones.nl ([145.49.233.108]) by livingstones.nl (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id QAA11054 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:19:38 GMT Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:26:42 +0100 Message-ID: <01BD5282.40E02760.chagemans@livingstones.nl> From: Conrad Hagemans Reply-To: "chagemans@livingstones.nl" To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Sharing a CD-ROM drive with Netaltalk Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:26:41 +0100 Organization: Livingstones Nederland bv X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is there someone who has experiance with sharing a cd-rom player in a linux box with the apple macintosh users? How should this work? The cd-rom is mounted as /cdrom in the root directory. Please help. Conrad Hagemans chagemans@livingstones.nl From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 18 10:50:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA27410 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:50:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA27406 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:50:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA29743; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:50:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA29736 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:50:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from maxwell.psy.cmu.edu (MAXWELL.PSY.CMU.EDU [128.2.249.24]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA29729 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:50:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from maxwell.psy.cmu.edu (miericks@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maxwell.psy.cmu.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA02638; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:50:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199803181550.KAA02638@maxwell.psy.cmu.edu> To: "Eric KieslingThompson" cc: erickson@cmu.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 1.4b2+asun and passwords In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:58:46 PST." <000401bd51c6$3d1c9620$11cbadce@beef> Reply-To: erickson@cmu.edu Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:50:09 -0500 From: "Michael A. Erickson" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu "Eric KieslingThompson" wrote: > Until now, I've had no problem with the cases of usernames. If mac networks > convert all to lowercase as you indicate, then you're right that this makes > the afpd server more like a mac server. I'm not sure of the underlying mechanism, but forcing all the characters to one case or another is an effective way of being case insensitive. > ummm, why did it work before? Since I'm not hearing from anyone else, I'd guess that it it was added to make netatalk servers more like other servers between the last umich version and the current asun version. I think it's a great idea. I think this patch will change it back to using mixed case passwords (although I haven't tested it): ------------------------------------------------------------ --- auth.c.save Wed Mar 18 10:38:41 1998 +++ auth.c Wed Mar 18 10:39:13 1998 @@ -294,6 +294,9 @@ int i; +/* Removed to allow for mixed case usernames */ +/* for (i = 0; i < len; i++) name[i] = tolower(name[i]); +*/ if (pwent = getpwnam(name)) ------------------------------------------------------------ > I guess I'll go with the flow and convert usernames to lower case. Aside > from getting around this particular problem, I still don't understand why > usenames should "generally" be lowercase (that's the ignorance at work). > But if you say it, and if asun says it, that's good enough for me right now. It's not _should_ in the sense that lowercase names are somehow better than upper case, it's that in my experience with unix boxes, usernames tend to be lowercase. Nevertheless, as far as I know unixes are case sensitive and upper case and mixed case usernames are allowed. Because of the appletalk's case insensitivity and unix's lower case convention, downcasing the atalk username before shipping it off to getpwnam seems like a reasonable solution. \MaE Michael A. Erickson erickson@cmu.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 18 11:04:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA28196 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:04:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA28191 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:04:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA01215 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 03:04:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA21199 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 03:04:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA21195 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 03:04:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from bucket.fks.lan (bendnet-gw.ees.com [199.2.205.245]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA21185 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 03:04:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from phluffy.fks.lan (myke@phluffy.fks.lan [10.0.0.2]) by bucket.fks.lan (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA05825; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 00:04:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 00:04:04 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.fks.lan To: Ravi S cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk on SUN In-Reply-To: <199803180744.NAA18719@kepler.india.ti.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > I just started getting to know about AppleTalk, and in the process > came to know about netatalk. I have the following question on netatalk: > Can I run netatalk on two SUN (running sunos 4.1) systems and > make them communicate using AppleTalk? In short, is it possible > to make these two machines behave like two MACs talking to > each other through AppleTalk? Samba has a SMB to NFS protocol converter called rumba. Is there anything like this to use the unix side for an appleshare client? How about the equivalent of a smbfs file system? - Mike From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 18 11:04:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA28220 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:04:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA28203 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:04:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA26840 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:31:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA21587; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:31:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA21580 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:31:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (FOCUS.NEUSC.BCM.TMC.EDU [128.249.25.177]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA21571 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:31:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (cf.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu [128.249.25.169]) by focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01148 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:30:40 -0600 Message-ID: <350FE8C3.5A8C2FF5@focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:31:16 -0600 From: Geoff Ghose Reply-To: geoff@focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu Organization: Baylor College of Medicine/HHMI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Sharing a CD-ROM drive with Netaltalk References: <01BD5282.40E02760.chagemans@livingstones.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Conrad Hagemans wrote: > Is there someone who has experiance with sharing a cd-rom player in a linux box with the > apple macintosh users? > > How should this work? > > The cd-rom is mounted as /cdrom in the root directory. > > Please help. > > Conrad Hagemans > chagemans@livingstones.nl Yes you need the hfs (Mac file system) module. See http://www-sccm.stanford.edu/~hargrove/HFS/ Then you can mount like this (an excerpt from my fstab): /dev/scd6 /mnt/cdrom/ToolboxAssist hfs ro,afpd 1 1 and export via netatalk with /cdrom/ToolboxAssist in AppleVolumes.system -- ************************************************************************* Geoff Ghose Div. of Neuroscience One Baylor Plaza S603 Baylor College of Medicine Houston, TX 77030 (713) 798-3277 Fax:(713) 798-3282 Internet: geoff@focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu gghose@bcm.tmc.edu http://focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu/~geoff PGP key: http://focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu/~geoff/pub-pgp-key And what is more, I agree with everything I have just said. - Piet Koornhoff From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 18 11:23:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA29814 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:23:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA29808 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:23:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA04982; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:23:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA04976 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:23:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from eats.grouplogic.com (host26.grouplogic.com [209.183.196.26]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA04963 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:23:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (rob@localhost) by eats.grouplogic.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA06113 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:18:33 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:18:32 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Newberry X-Sender: rob@eats.grouplogic.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 1.4b2+asun and passwords In-Reply-To: <199803181550.KAA02638@maxwell.psy.cmu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Since I'm not hearing from anyone else, I'd guess that it it was added > to make netatalk servers more like other servers between the last > umich version and the current asun version. I think it's a great > idea. I think it was added in asun's version -- but I am not certain. While I like the option, I think it ought to be used via a compile time option (or better yet, a command line option). I'm pretty certain our NT servers are case-sensitive, mainly because I've had people say, "I can't see any volumes!", and I go in their office, and change the first letter of their login to lower-case (we standardized on all lower-case user names for both NT and UNIX systems), and suddenly it works. Little do Mac users know that if they changed the owner name setting on the Mac to all-lower-case, first-name-only, these problems would go away. On the other hand, asun has added the ability to use the user's full name, which is pretty cool -- CAP has this feature. Still, since NT doesn't support it, I leave my Mac's owner name as "rob". From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 18 11:32:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA00675 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:32:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA00666 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:32:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA17686; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:32:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA17678 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:32:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [198.7.0.33]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA17637 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:32:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from elf (dfoster.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.216]) by mail2.panix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/PanixM1.3) with SMTP id LAA11980; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:32:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803181632.LAA11980@mail2.panix.com> X-Sender: dfoster@popserver.panix.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:36:53 -0500 To: Ravi S , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: David Foster Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk on SUN In-Reply-To: <199803180744.NAA18719@kepler.india.ti.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 02:44 AM 3/18/98 , Ravi S wrote: > >I just started getting to know about AppleTalk, and in the process >came to know about netatalk. I have the following question on netatalk: >Can I run netatalk on two SUN (running sunos 4.1) systems and >make them communicate using AppleTalk? In short, is it possible >to make these two machines behave like two MACs talking to >each other through AppleTalk? Kind of a strange thing to want, but so be it. Netatalk is server-only software, for the most part. Both of the SUNs would be appletalk file servers, but neither would be a client, so you couldn't access the other machines volumes. You could do a few minor things, like pinging, etc. across the machines. Printing would also work, I suppose. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 18 12:02:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA02291 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:02:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA02272 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:02:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA02650; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:02:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA02646 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:02:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA02634 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:02:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (vivek@malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by malkav.imaginet.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA09474; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:00:12 GMT Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:00:11 +0000 (GMT) From: Vivek To: Mike Holling cc: Ravi S , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk on SUN In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Mike Holling wrote: > > to make these two machines behave like two MACs talking to > > each other through AppleTalk? > > Samba has a SMB to NFS protocol converter called rumba. Is there anything > like this to use the unix side for an appleshare client? How about the > equivalent of a smbfs file system? Um. Linux has afpfs which allows you to mount an appleshared volume, sort of [there are - or were, last time I looked, lots of issues relating to resource forks and the like still to be resolved]. I'm not sure if any of the other unices can mount afp volumes. Although I suppose if you had a Linux box available, it could re-export the afpfs volume NFS.... [this is beginning to sound like a really _really_ icky solution... ] -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 18 12:44:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA03754 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:44:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA03747 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:44:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA02638 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:06:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA23856; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:06:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA23853 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:06:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA23848 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:06:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from saul10.u.washington.edu (asun@saul10.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.73]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA13674; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:06:43 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by saul10.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) id JAA25379; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:06:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:06:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803181706.JAA25379@saul10.u.washington.edu> From: a sun To: rob@eats.com CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from Rob Newberry on Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:18:32 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 1.4b2+asun and passwords Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu fyi, i've moved the downcasing bit of code in auth.c after the getpwnam check. i'll release an a18.3 patch for that and other minor issues related to compiling on sun machines. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 18 13:19:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA05392 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:19:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA05376 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:18:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA04507; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:18:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA04502 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:18:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown-31-139.pilot.net (unknown-31-139.pilot.net [204.48.31.139]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA04485 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:18:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from [206.189.96.158] (unverified [206.189.96.158]) by smtp.emailserv.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:19:47 -0600 X-Sender: petro@smtp.emailserv.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000401bd51c6$3d1c9620$11cbadce@beef> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:26:29 -0600 To: "Eric KieslingThompson" From: "Christopher C. Petro" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 1.4b2+asun and passwords Cc: , Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 10:58 AM -0600 3/17/98, Eric KieslingThompson wrote: >I guess I'll go with the flow and convert usernames to lower case. Aside >from getting around this particular problem, I still don't understand why >usenames should "generally" be lowercase (that's the ignorance at work). >But if you say it, and if asun says it, that's good enough for me right now. >Luckily, I don't have too many to change, and the users should not have to >deal with any changes. If you always make the user name lower case, then it never becomes a problem. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 18 14:44:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA09553 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:44:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA09546 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA07962; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:44:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA07950 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:44:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercuryseven.com (apollo.mercuryseven.com [207.142.195.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA07891 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:44:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207.142.195.2 (achilles2.mercuryseven.com [207.142.195.6]) by mercuryseven.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA23634 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:02:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199803182002.PAA23634@mercuryseven.com> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] 1.4b2 - afpd error: can't resolve symbol '__xstat' - Linux 2.0.32 i386/Redhat Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:44:07 -0500 From: Sam Sapoznick Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MUSASHI 2.2.1 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello. I just did a fresh Linux 2.0.32 Redhat install on a PPro box with a Kingston 10/100 PCI Ethernet card. It is using shadowed passwd file. I then installed netatalk 1.4b2 using RedHat's 'rpm' tool. ( Precompiled binary) I checked all the various config files, read the readme's, etc., and I still have the following problem: There is another, older linux box (1.x.something) on the network, running netatalk 1.3.3, but I doubt it has anything to do with this problem. I open the linux box in the chooser, and attempt to log-in with my username/password. As soon as I click "ok" to login, the following message appears on the console of the linux box: afpd: can't resolve symbol '__xstat' The mac keeps the "watch" cursor up for 20 or 30 seconds, and then reports that the connection was unexpectedly terminated. This happens from macs running a variety of OS versions: 7.5.3 rev2, = 7.6.1, 8.0. I turned on the -d option for afpd; no other errors show up. Mounting the linux box as "guest" works fine. Any ideas? -sam From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 18 16:26:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA14717 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:26:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA14713 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:26:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA11898; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:26:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA11886 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:26:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.techniche.co.nz ([202.36.111.226]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA11880 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:26:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from [202.36.111.236] (rknuckey.techniche.co.nz [202.36.111.236]) by mail.techniche.co.nz (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA14866; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:27:08 +1200 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <000401bd51c6$3d1c9620$11cbadce@beef> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:26:38 +1200 To: "Christopher C. Petro" , "Eric KieslingThompson" From: Richard Knuckey Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 1.4b2+asun and passwords Cc: , Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 6:26 am +1200 19/3/98, Christopher C. Petro wrote: >At 10:58 AM -0600 3/17/98, Eric KieslingThompson wrote: >>I guess I'll go with the flow and convert usernames to lower case. Aside >>from getting around this particular problem, I still don't understand why >>usenames should "generally" be lowercase (that's the ignorance at work). sendmail will not work if you have mixed case usernames. ie you will not be able to send user "Richard" mail as most sendmail configurations will convert this to richard and try to send mail to that user. samba also converts names to lowercase. An alternative for netatalk+asun is to set up your gecos information corectly with the users real name. netatalk will match against that as well as the login name, so you can use proper names on the Mac. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 18 16:50:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA16374 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:50:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA16360 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:50:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA16250 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:48:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA06148; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:48:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA06143 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:48:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from school.cs.indiana.edu (school.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.252.119]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA06105 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:48:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (brbothwe@localhost) by school.cs.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/IUCS_2.16) with SMTP id QAA29463 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:47:59 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: school.cs.indiana.edu: brbothwe owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:47:59 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Eric Bothwell To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk on SUN In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Vivek wrote: > On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Mike Holling wrote: > > > > to make these two machines behave like two MACs talking to > > > each other through AppleTalk? > > > > Samba has a SMB to NFS protocol converter called rumba. Is there anything > > like this to use the unix side for an appleshare client? How about the > > equivalent of a smbfs file system? > > Um. Linux has afpfs which allows you to mount an appleshared volume, sort > of [there are - or were, last time I looked, lots of issues relating to > resource forks and the like still to be resolved]. I'm not sure if any of > the other unices can mount afp volumes. Although I suppose if you had a > Linux box available, it could re-export the afpfs volume NFS.... [this is > beginning to sound like a really _really_ icky solution... ] > I am having trouble getting the precompiled binary of afpfs to work on my RH 5.0 system. I have to us the "-f" option with insmod to get the afpfs module to load (since it is looking for kernel 2.0.30 and I have 2.0.32) When I try and mount a remote share I get this error ---------------------------------------------------- [root@wtlinux:/scratch/afpfs] ./afpmount -u wtuser /mnt/ashare Wizard test Enter the server password: afpmount: unexpected AppleTalk error (-9) ---------------------------------------------------- I tried compiling the afpfs source but it dies complaining of parse errors in /usr/include/linux/atalk.h Anyone else got afpfs compiled and running on a Redhat 5.0 system? -Brian From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 18 16:59:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA17266 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:59:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA17252 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:59:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA17008 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:57:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA08067 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:57:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA08053 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:56:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from school.cs.indiana.edu (school.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.252.119]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA08041 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:56:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (brbothwe@localhost) by school.cs.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/IUCS_2.16) with SMTP id QAA29525 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:56:41 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: school.cs.indiana.edu: brbothwe owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:56:41 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Eric Bothwell To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: afpfs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Vivek wrote: > > Um. Linux has afpfs which allows you to mount an appleshared volume, sort > of [there are - or were, last time I looked, lots of issues relating to > resource forks and the like still to be resolved]. I'm not sure if any of > the other unices can mount afp volumes. Although I suppose if you had a > Linux box available, it could re-export the afpfs volume NFS.... [this is > beginning to sound like a really _really_ icky solution... ] > I am having trouble getting the precompiled binary of afpfs to work on my RH 5.0 system. I have to us the "-f" option with insmod to get the afpfs module to load (since it is looking for kernel 2.0.30 and I have 2.0.32) When I try and mount a remote share I get this error ---------------------------------------------------- [root@wtlinux:/scratch/afpfs] ./afpmount -u wtuser /mnt/ashare Wizard test Enter the server password: afpmount: unexpected AppleTalk error (-9) ---------------------------------------------------- I tried compiling the afpfs source but it dies complaining of parse errors in /usr/include/linux/atalk.h Anyone else got afpfs compiled and running on a Redhat 5.0 system? -Brian From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 18 17:26:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA19362 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:26:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA19330 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:25:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA25563; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:25:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA25554 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:25:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from dpisys2.dparadise.on.ca ([205.233.218.3] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA25540 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:25:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from workstn1.dparadise.on.ca (workstn1.dparadise.on.ca [205.233.218.120]) by dpisys2.dparadise.on.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA01717 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:26:34 -0500 Received: by workstn1.dparadise.on.ca with Microsoft Mail id <01BD5291.F2F63840@workstn1.dparadise.on.ca>; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:19:03 -0800 Message-ID: <01BD5291.F2F63840@workstn1.dparadise.on.ca> From: James Banks To: "'netatalk-admins@umich.edu'" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:19:01 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu 1) Is there a facility for creating resource records for files sent from = other platforms eg: telling netatalk what the resource record for a file = with the .tif extension from a PC is? When is appears in the finder on = the mac, it will have the proper icon and programs such as photoshop = will recognise what it is? 2) Can you set up public volumns? 3) Add login mappings to workstations? Jim Banks From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 18 19:13:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA24177 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:13:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA24173 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:13:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA01198; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:13:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA01187 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:13:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA01173 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:13:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id QAA27945; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:13:07 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <000015B1.sm@h-e.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 1.4b2 - afpd error: can't resolve symbol '__xstat' - Linux 2.0.32 i386/Redhat Date: Wed, 18 Mar 98 14:39:06 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: list@mercuryseven.com (Sam Sapoznick) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 6869 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:13 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Original message sent on Wed, Mar 18 11:44 AM by list@mercuryseven.com (Sam Sapoznick) : > I open the linux box in the chooser, and attempt to log-in with my > username/password. As soon as I click "ok" to login, the following > message appears on the console of the linux box: > > afpd: can't resolve symbol '__xstat' I saw this problem too. The rpm from the RedHat site appears to be broken, or not to work under RH 5.0. The solution is to get the 1.4b2 source and re-compile. Be sure to apply various patches, including the "macos8" patch that is at the umich site, and the "RH 5.0" patch from Anders Brownworth's netatalk page. The URLs are: for the 1.4b2 source and patches: for the RH 5.0 patch and general help getting things going: I did keep one piece from the rpm, that is the /etc/rc.d/init.d/atalk startup script, which works with RedHat's "chkconfig" and is (I think) a better way to start/stop netatalk than the scripts that come with the stuff from umich. Hope this helps! Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 18 20:43:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA26984 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:43:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA26970 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:43:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA26952 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:41:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id UAA22321; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:41:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id UAA22317 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:41:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from nora.hbk-bs.de (ip193-175-242-144.hbk-bs.de [193.175.242.144]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA22175 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:41:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by nora.hbk-bs.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA03857 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:40:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from spock.hbk-bs.de(193.175.242.145) by nora.hbk-bs.de via smap (V2.0) id xma003855; Thu, 19 Mar 98 02:40:17 +0100 Received: from marvin.hbk-bs.de by spock.hbk-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id CAA27495; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:40:16 +0100 Received: by marvin.hbk-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id CAA01391; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:40:16 +0100 From: h.foest@hbk-bs.de (Hanno Foest) Message-Id: <199803190140.CAA01391@marvin.hbk-bs.de> Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 and Solaris 2.6 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:40:16 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I tried asun's 18.2 version of netatalk with the new kernel module (got it from umich's n-971027 version). It seems to work quite fine, until I try to shut it down and restart it again. atalkd doesn't start properly, the startup script hangs, and I end up with some atalkd process which can't be killed. Is this a known problem? Hanno From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 18 21:52:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA29134 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:52:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA29074; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:52:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA29072 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:52:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA29066 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:52:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803190252.VAA29066@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: evan.cordes@umich.edu To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] test Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:52:28 -0500 X-Sender: epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is only a test. Apologies, EV AN From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 19 00:00:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id AAA02757 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:00:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA02751 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:00:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id AAA27746; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:00:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id AAA27744 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:00:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (colossus.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.202]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA27736 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:00:03 -0500 (EST) From: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za Received: from localhost (jon@localhost) by colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA00744; Wed, 19 Mar 1997 06:59:54 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 06:59:54 +0200 (SAT) To: Brian Eric Bothwell cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: afpfs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu this is a common error and i get it on my version 4 system. i suggest you ask the author, heksterb@acm.org. he says he's no longer got a linux box so he's been unable to fix it. ____________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick jon@cs.wits.ac.za, +27 11 716-3783 Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand Web site, ftp site and listserv all available at: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/ On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Brian Eric Bothwell wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Vivek wrote: > > > > Um. Linux has afpfs which allows you to mount an appleshared volume, sort > > of [there are - or were, last time I looked, lots of issues relating to > > resource forks and the like still to be resolved]. I'm not sure if any of > > the other unices can mount afp volumes. Although I suppose if you had a > > Linux box available, it could re-export the afpfs volume NFS.... [this is > > beginning to sound like a really _really_ icky solution... ] > > > > > I am having trouble getting the precompiled binary of afpfs to work on my > RH 5.0 system. I have to us the "-f" option with insmod to get the afpfs > module to load (since it is looking for kernel 2.0.30 and I have 2.0.32) > > When I try and mount a remote share I get this error > ---------------------------------------------------- > > [root@wtlinux:/scratch/afpfs] ./afpmount -u wtuser /mnt/ashare Wizard test > Enter the server password: > afpmount: unexpected AppleTalk error (-9) > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > I tried compiling the afpfs source but it dies complaining of parse errors > in /usr/include/linux/atalk.h > > Anyone else got afpfs compiled and running on a Redhat 5.0 system? > > -Brian > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 19 02:35:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id CAA14165 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:35:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id CAA14161 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:35:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id CAA06676; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:35:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id CAA06670 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:35:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.tpgi.com.au (newmail.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.54]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id CAA06657 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:35:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by newmail.tpgi.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA27841; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:35:38 +1100 Received: from tar-ppp-167.tpgi.com.au(203.26.26.167), claiming to be "gretchen" via SMTP by buffy.tpgi.com.au, id smtpdb27817; Thu Mar 19 18:35:29 1998 From: "Eddie Irvine" To: "Odd-Jarle Kristoffersen" , Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Dot-matrix printer Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:34:08 +1000 Message-ID: <01bd5309$6730bba0$a71a1acb@gretchen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Check out: http://artoo.hitchcock.org/~flowerpt/projects/linux-netatalk/ghostscript.htm l > >Does the Mac support anything but PS printing to netatalk? I have the >following setup: > >netatalk on Linux >Parallell printer Star LC2-200 (dot-matrix non-PS type). >Macinotshes connected through coax networking. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 19 03:19:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id DAA16252 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 03:19:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA16246 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 03:19:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA00505; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 03:19:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA00503 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 03:19:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from livingstones.nl ([195.240.118.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA00499 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 03:19:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from HMS-KANTOOR.livingstones.nl ([145.49.233.108]) by livingstones.nl (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id KAA12353; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:22:09 GMT Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:29:32 +0100 Message-ID: <01BD5319.860B0980.chagemans@livingstones.nl> From: Conrad Hagemans Reply-To: "chagemans@livingstones.nl" To: "'geoff@focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu'" , "'Netatalk-Admins (E-mail)" Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] Sharing a CD-ROM drive with Netaltalk Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:29:31 +0100 Organization: Livingstones Nederland bv X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Thanks, It works. I compiled the loadable module hfs.o and loaded onto the system. I mount the cdrom with: mount -t hfs -o fork=netatalk /dev/scd0 /cdrom I hat to use the option command otherwise all the files where not recognised by the finder. Conrad Hagemans chagemans@livingstones -----Original Message----- From: Geoff Ghose [SMTP:geoff@focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 1998 4:31 PM To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Sharing a CD-ROM drive with Netaltalk Conrad Hagemans wrote: > Is there someone who has experiance with sharing a cd-rom player in a linux box with the > apple macintosh users? > > How should this work? > > The cd-rom is mounted as /cdrom in the root directory. > > Please help. > > Conrad Hagemans > chagemans@livingstones.nl Yes you need the hfs (Mac file system) module. See http://www-sccm.stanford.edu/~hargrove/HFS/ Then you can mount like this (an excerpt from my fstab): /dev/scd6 /mnt/cdrom/ToolboxAssist hfs ro,afpd 1 1 and export via netatalk with /cdrom/ToolboxAssist in AppleVolumes.system -- ************************************************************************* Geoff Ghose Div. of Neuroscience One Baylor Plaza S603 Baylor College of Medicine Houston, TX 77030 (713) 798-3277 Fax:(713) 798-3282 Internet: geoff@focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu gghose@bcm.tmc.edu http://focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu/~geoff PGP key: http://focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu/~geoff/pub-pgp-key And what is more, I agree with everything I have just said. - Piet Koornhoff From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 19 05:02:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA17646 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 05:02:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA17642 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 05:02:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA11112; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 05:02:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA11110 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 05:02:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from prawn.amxdigital.com (dns0.amxdigital.com [195.238.161.131]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id FAA11101 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 05:02:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from phong.amxdigital.com by prawn.amxdigital.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) id CAA09463; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:53:38 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980319100127.0074b24c@amxdigital.com> X-Sender: jon@amxdigital.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:01:27 +0000 To: h.foest@hbk-bs.de (Hanno Foest), netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Jonathan Peterson Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 and Solaris 2.6 In-Reply-To: <199803190140.CAA01391@marvin.hbk-bs.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 02:40 AM 3/19/98 +0100, Hanno Foest wrote: >Hi, > >I tried asun's 18.2 version of netatalk with the new kernel module (got it >from umich's n-971027 version). It seems to work quite fine, until I try to >shut it down and restart it again. atalkd doesn't start properly, the >startup script hangs, and I end up with some atalkd process which can't >be killed. Is this a known problem? There is a known problem with restarting netatalk on some systems (esp. Linux). Basically it doesn't work unless the AppleTalk driver is restarted. To do this you need to: Reboot your system if AppleTalk is compiled into the kernel or Remove and then re-install the module if AppleTalk is compiled as a module. Check the docs on kernel modules for how to do this (something like rmmod [name]; insmod [name]) -------- Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 Internet Developer I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 19 06:08:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA04831 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:08:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA04827 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:08:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA12598; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:08:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA12596 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:08:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA12592 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 06:08:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (vivek@malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by malkav.imaginet.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA10727; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:06:20 GMT Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:06:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Vivek To: James Banks cc: "'netatalk-admins@umich.edu'" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk In-Reply-To: <01BD5291.F2F63840@workstn1.dparadise.on.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, James Banks wrote: > 1) Is there a facility for creating resource records for files sent from other platforms eg: telling netatalk what the resource record for a file with the .tif extension from a PC is? When is appears in the finder on the mac, it will have the proper icon and programs such as photoshop will recognise what it is? Yes. There are entries in the AppleVolumes.system file which specify this. I recommend setting the default entry to BINA/UNIX rather than TEXT/UNIX so files without recognised extensions don't get the CR<->LF treatment. [Or alternatively, if the CR/LF translation isn't important to you, compile it out.] > 2) Can you set up public volumes? Yes. See man afpd(8). The guest account defaults to nobody, but can be set with the -g option. > 3) Add login mappings to workstations? I don't know. -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 19 11:23:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA12671 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:23:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA12667 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:23:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA08007; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:23:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA08003 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:23:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from hermes.nerosworld.com ([205.218.212.67]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id LAA07950 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:22:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from deperry@localhost) by hermes.nerosworld.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA03030; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:21:58 GMT Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:21:58 +0000 () From: David Perry To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk +hfs +ASIP In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980319100127.0074b24c@amxdigital.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am running netatalk now and am happy with it but I would like to redo it with support for hfs volumes and ASIP. With the hfs support does netatalk read and write the files in the same format as a native mac drive? That is to say, does it still write files with the .AppleDouble thing going on or is it all one usable file? Any details on the implementation woudl be appreciated. Thanks David Perry From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 19 11:24:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA12745 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:24:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA12740 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:24:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA09802; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:24:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA09791 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:24:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from netit.be ([194.7.86.222]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA09752 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:23:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from netit.be (uu194-7-74-19.unknown.uunet.be [194.7.74.19]) by netit.be (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA18591 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:23:58 +0100 Message-ID: <3511469D.ADF76E9E@netit.be> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:23:57 +0100 From: chris thoen Organization: Net It Be X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] forbidden characters on pc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu We use a linux fileserver with a mix of macs (netatalk) and pc's (Samba). Is it possible in netatalk to put some filter in de filenames that can be used, so Samba doen't have a problem with deleting files. f.i. sometimes the MACS create a file 'Icon\r' (with \r a carriage return). For a pc-user , it is impossible to delete a directory with such a file. Does anybody knows a solution for this? Thanks, Chris -- Chris THOEN Systeembeheerder Net it be Posthoflei 3 2600 BERCHEM tel : 03/286.04.34 fax : 03/286.04.70 email : christ@netit.be url : www.netit.be From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 19 11:42:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA14554 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:42:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA14548 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:42:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA01316; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:41:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA01293 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:41:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA01278 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:41:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id RAA31043; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:40:35 +0100 Message-ID: <351149E6.B2DFEFA7@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:37:58 +0100 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Perry , Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk +hfs +ASIP References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu David Perry wrote: > > I am running netatalk now and am happy with it but I would like to redo > it with support for hfs volumes and ASIP. > > With the hfs support does netatalk read and write the files in the same > format as a native mac drive? That is to say, does it still write files > with the .AppleDouble thing going on or is it all one usable file? Any > details on the implementation woudl be appreciated. Paul H. Hargrove's hfs module under Linux can represent the resource fork, finderinfo, etc. just like netatalk, so netatalk might not even know about it's writing to a real HFS volume, still the thing works. As of ASIP, it's included in Adrian Sun's patches - or did I misunderstand You? Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 19 11:55:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA15582 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:55:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA15551 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:55:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA23098; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:55:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA23082 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:55:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA23059 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:55:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (vivek@malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by malkav.imaginet.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA11395; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:53:57 GMT Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:53:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Vivek To: chris thoen cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] forbidden characters on pc In-Reply-To: <3511469D.ADF76E9E@netit.be> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, chris thoen wrote: > We use a linux fileserver with a mix of macs (netatalk) and pc's > (Samba). > Is it possible in netatalk to put some filter in de filenames that can > be used, so Samba doen't have a problem with deleting files. > f.i. sometimes the MACS create a file 'Icon\r' (with \r a carriage > return). For a pc-user , it is impossible to delete a directory > with such a file. > > Does anybody knows a solution for this? If you know in advance what the troublesome files are going to be, you could use the veto files = troublesome name 1/troublesome name 2/etc and delete veto files = true options in Samba. I'm not sure if you can get a \r into the veto files thing though. Good luck. -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 19 12:04:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA16245 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:04:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA16237 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:04:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA27380; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:04:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA27371 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:04:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns0.fast.net.uk (ns0.fast.net.uk [194.207.104.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA27340 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:04:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from pool-042.fastnet.co.uk (pool-042.fastnet.co.uk [194.207.106.42]) by ns0.fast.net.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA00101; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:03:29 GMT From: micheleen@fastnet.co.uk (Mike Rigby) To: chris thoen Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, micheleen@mindless.com Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] forbidden characters on pc Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:08:47 GMT Organization: No Organisation Here :-) Reply-To: micheleen@fastnet.co.uk Message-ID: <351140fd.541695186@mailhost.fastnet.co.uk> References: <3511469D.ADF76E9E@netit.be> In-Reply-To: <3511469D.ADF76E9E@netit.be> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:23:57 +0100, chris thoen wrote: >We use a linux fileserver with a mix of macs (netatalk) and pc's >(Samba). >Is it possible in netatalk to put some filter in de filenames that can >be used, so Samba doen't have a problem with deleting files. >f.i. sometimes the MACS create a file 'Icon\r' (with \r a carriage >return). For a pc-user , it is impossible to delete a directory >with such a file. > >Does anybody knows a solution for this? > There used to be a utility called rm ( no surprise ) for dos/windows. The program was rm.exe and as far as I remember coped with any file by judicious use of wildcards in the filename to delete. I found it on compuserve a few years ago but I don't know if it's still there. Regards, Mike Mike Rigby micheleen@fastnet.co.uk Who is General Failure and why is he reading Drive C From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 19 12:08:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA16642 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:08:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA16612 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:08:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA15014; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:08:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA15004 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:08:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA14983 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:08:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id SAA32338; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:08:03 +0100 Message-ID: <35115058.229B98C9@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:05:28 +0100 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Perry , Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk +hfs +ASIP References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu David Perry wrote: > > I am running netatalk now and am happy with it but I would like to redo > it with support for hfs volumes and ASIP. > > With the hfs support does netatalk read and write the files in the same > format as a native mac drive? That is to say, does it still write files > with the .AppleDouble thing going on or is it all one usable file? Any > details on the implementation woudl be appreciated. Paul H. Hargrove's hfs module under Linux can represent the resource fork, finderinfo, etc. just like netatalk, so netatalk might not even know about it's writing to a real HFS volume, still the thing works. As of ASIP, it's included in Adrian Sun's patches - or did I misunderstand You? Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 19 12:23:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA18148 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:23:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA18141 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:23:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA21119; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:23:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA21107 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:23:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ws142.spray.fi (ws142.spray.fi [195.10.150.142]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA21093 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:23:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from oa@localhost) by ws142.spray.fi (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA01200; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:23:07 +0200 To: David Perry Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk +hfs +ASIP References: From: Osma Ahvenlampi Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 19 Mar 1998 21:23:06 +0200 In-Reply-To: David Perry's message of Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:21:58 +0000 () Message-ID: Lines: 26 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu David Perry writes: > With the hfs support does netatalk read and write the files in the same > format as a native mac drive? That is to say, does it still write files > with the .AppleDouble thing going on or is it all one usable file? Any > details on the implementation woudl be appreciated. With hfs support, you can mount a Macintosh drive (move it to the Linux box - I don't know if you can _create_ Mac filesystems on Linux) and share the files on it. The hfs filesystem can show the resource forks to the Linux API as an .AppleDouble directory so that netatalk finds it as it should - naturally, since the filesystem itself knows that the data and resource forks belong together, you avoid the problems of stray files in .AppleDouble when a UNIX or Samba user moves or deletes files. As far as the filesystem is concerned, there's one file with two forks, and if you delete the data fork, the resource fork disappears as well. As far as UNIX API and tools are considered, they see two files. On the other hand, hfs is a limited and slow filesystem format compared to ext2. For a volume shared to MacOS and Windows users, it might be useful, but if the access to the volume is strictly from Macs only, you'd be better off using ext2. -- You can tune a piano, but you can`t tuna fish. Osma Ahvenlampi From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 19 12:49:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA19702 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:49:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA19695 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:49:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA14023; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:49:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA14002 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:49:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from valle.nexus.se (nic.nexus.se [193.15.232.161]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA13944 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:48:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by valle.nexus.se; id SAA18067; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:48:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from bond.nexus.se(146.75.32.1) by valle.nexus.se via smap (3.2) id xma018040; Thu, 19 Mar 98 18:48:39 +0100 Received: from [146.75.32.200] (punkt.nexus.se [146.75.32.200]) by bond.nexus.se (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA13842 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:48:38 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: punkt@bond.nexus.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:48:37 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Jonas Blomberg Subject: [netatalk-admins] AppleShare on IP Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Greetings! Now that the client side of AppleShare on IP has been available from Apple for quite some time, supporting MacOS versions from 7.5.3 onwards (if I am not mistaken), isn't it time to consider simply scrapping all the AppleTalk support in netatalk? I know that this may sound a bit provocative, but I would guess that only a very tiny portion of Macs actually connected to netatalk servers is unable to run the necessary Appleshare client software. I am not familiar with the innards of netatalk, but am I right in guessing that a sizable part of the complexity of netatalk stems from supporting appletalk in various ways, including modifying the various unix kernels. Using Laserwriter 8.5.1 (which I think can run on MacOS 7.0 and later), we can also forego AppleTalk when printing. Isn't support for AppleTalk style printing also a respectable chunk of netatalk software? So what I asking is: If one would rip out ALL AppleTalk support from netatalk and concentrate on AppleShare over IP, wouldn't we get a leaner, meaner, better product, without really losing anything? I don't know enough about netatalk to make this an actual suggestion, but isn't it a relevant question? /Jonas --- Jonas Blomberg (Jonas.Blomberg@Nexus.SE) Technology Nexus Secure Open Systems AB, Box 857 751 08 Uppsala, SWEDEN, +46-18-171800 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 19 13:04:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA20616 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:04:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA20512 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:03:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA18463; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:01:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA18461 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:01:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailb.telia.com (mailb.telia.com [194.22.194.6]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA17417 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:59:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from d1o29.telia.com (root@d1o29.telia.com [194.236.214.241]) by mailb.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA18391; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:56:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from partitur.se (t4o29p93.telia.com [194.236.215.213]) by d1o29.telia.com (8.8.4/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10045; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:56:37 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <35115C34.99154FB1@partitur.se> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:56:04 +0100 From: Palle Girgensohn Organization: Partitur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: chris thoen CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] forbidden characters on pc References: <3511469D.ADF76E9E@netit.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu chris thoen wrote: > > We use a linux fileserver with a mix of macs (netatalk) and pc's > (Samba). > Is it possible in netatalk to put some filter in de filenames that can > be used, so Samba doen't have a problem with deleting files. > f.i. sometimes the MACS create a file 'Icon\r' (with \r a carriage > return). For a pc-user , it is impossible to delete a directory > with such a file. > > Does anybody knows a solution for this? > > Thanks, > > Chris Yes. I sent a patch in to this list about three months ago that, together with some instructions on how to set up Samba, set things up so that the iso-latin character set is used by both systems (samba & netatalk) to represent filenames. This code could easily be modified to change \r into something pc-readable. See if you can find my old mail, and I will to and redistribute it to you. BTW. Do you have a list of which characters are illegal? Would be helpful. Regards, Palle From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 19 13:07:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA20853 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:07:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA20843 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:07:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA10580; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:07:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA10572 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:07:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from eats.grouplogic.com (host26.grouplogic.com [209.183.196.26]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA10557 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:07:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (rob@localhost) by eats.grouplogic.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA07862; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:03:03 -0500 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:03:02 -0500 (EST) From: Rob Newberry X-Sender: rob@eats.grouplogic.com To: Jonas Blomberg cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AppleShare on IP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu While I think it might be a useful compile-time option to disable AppleTalk support, I believe you are quite wrong in your assumptions. A lot of the client Macintoshes that connect to netatalk servers are probably in universities. As such, they're probably NOT running OS 8, and they're probably NOT running an AFP/TCP-capable client. As to printing, again, most clients probably are NOT using LaserWriter 8.5.1, and probably won't be for a while -- some never will. Finally, many netatalk users use the printing portion in the reverse situation -- as a client to print to AppleTalk printers. Lots of folks have old LaserWriters that only speak AppleTalk on their networks -- netatalk allows a UNIX server to print to those machines which DON'T speak LPR. While I'm glad Apple's latest clients are moving towards IP, it will be a LONG time before the majority of users are capable of using those services alone. > Now that the client side of AppleShare on IP has been available from Apple > for quite some time, supporting MacOS versions from 7.5.3 onwards (if I am > not mistaken), isn't it time to consider simply scrapping all the AppleTalk > support in netatalk? I know that this may sound a bit provocative, but I > would guess that only a very tiny portion of Macs actually connected to > netatalk servers is unable to run the necessary Appleshare client software. > > I am not familiar with the innards of netatalk, but am I right in guessing > that a sizable part of the complexity of netatalk stems from supporting > appletalk in various ways, including modifying the various unix kernels. > > Using Laserwriter 8.5.1 (which I think can run on MacOS 7.0 and later), we > can also forego AppleTalk when printing. Isn't support for AppleTalk style > printing also a respectable chunk of netatalk software? > So what I asking is: If one would rip out ALL AppleTalk support from > netatalk and concentrate on AppleShare over IP, wouldn't we get a leaner, > meaner, better product, without really losing anything? > > I don't know enough about netatalk to make this an actual suggestion, but > isn't it a relevant question? > > /Jonas > > --- > Jonas Blomberg (Jonas.Blomberg@Nexus.SE) > Technology Nexus Secure Open Systems AB, Box 857 > 751 08 Uppsala, SWEDEN, +46-18-171800 > > From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 19 13:22:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA21911 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:22:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA21901 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:22:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA26500; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:22:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA26492 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:22:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from prawn.amxdigital.com (dns0.amxdigital.com [195.238.161.131]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id NAA26482 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:22:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from phong.amxdigital.com by prawn.amxdigital.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id LAA10143; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:13:46 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980319182136.00c2e54c@amxdigital.com> X-Sender: jon@amxdigital.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:21:36 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Jonathan Peterson Subject: [netatalk-admins] AppleShare on IP In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sorry to be ignorant about this, but the AppleTalk vs IP thing confuses me. If I have clients running OS8, and the latest asun version of Netatalk, will I be using the fast or slow version of AppleTalk by default?? If modern Macs use TCP/IP, can I remove AppleTalk from my kernel and avoid the current restarting problems (as well as saving some memory)? Thanks, -------- Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 Internet Developer I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 19 13:27:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA22254 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:27:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA22240 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:26:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA28465; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA28459 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:26:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.nmc.siu.edu (orion.nmc.siu.edu [131.230.35.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA28444 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:26:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fleming@localhost) by orion.nmc.siu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.4) id MAA21484 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:26:50 -0600 From: "Paul M. Fleming" Message-Id: <199803191826.MAA21484@orion.nmc.siu.edu> Subject: [netatalk-admins] 100BaseT Cards for PCI Macs To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 12:26:49 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm looking for suggestions on PCI 100BaseT cards for Macintosh systems. I use the Vortex & Tulip based cards in my PC's any suggestions for the Mac. We currently use Asante, anyone have any experiences w/ other cards. Thanks Paul From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 19 14:02:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA24681 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:02:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA24675 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:02:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA22630 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:30:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA20816; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:30:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA20779 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:29:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA20705 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:29:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from saul6.u.washington.edu (asun@saul6.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.1]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA22934; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:29:48 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by saul6.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) id KAA12559; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:29:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:29:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803191829.KAA12559@saul6.u.washington.edu> From: a sun To: jon@amxdigital.com CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <3.0.1.32.19980319182136.00c2e54c@amxdigital.com> (message from Jonathan Peterson on Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:21:36 +0000) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AppleShare on IP Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu If I have clients running OS8, and the latest asun version of Netatalk, will I be using the fast or slow version of AppleTalk by default?? you get switched to tcp/ip by default. you can change that by using the appleshare client setup program if you want. If modern Macs use TCP/IP, can I remove AppleTalk from my kernel and avoid the current restarting problems (as well as saving some memory)? well, afpd will start even if appletalk is not running. however, you really should fix your restarting problems by updating your kernel as appletalk provides chooser services which are quite convenient. finally, the netatalk suite and appletalk take up very little memory, so i doubt that should ever really be a concern. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 19 19:35:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA10397 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:35:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA10390 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:34:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA10219 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:26:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA02812; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:26:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA02807 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:26:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from babba.advancenet.net (babba.advancenet.net [205.198.248.21]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA02802 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.argus-systems.com (ranger.argus-systems.com [206.221.232.80]) by babba.advancenet.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA18268; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:27:47 -0600 Received: from localhost by mail.argus-systems.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA00874; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:26:38 -0600 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:26:38 -0600 From: Andrew McNabb To: Jonas Blomberg cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AppleShare on IP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu As far as I know, there are two big problems. One is the fact that only a minority of systems use IP. The second is that I thought that the old-style Appletalk was necessary to do create the list of available servers. On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Jonas Blomberg wrote: > > Greetings! > > Now that the client side of AppleShare on IP has been available from Apple > for quite some time, supporting MacOS versions from 7.5.3 onwards (if I am > not mistaken), isn't it time to consider simply scrapping all the AppleTalk > support in netatalk? I know that this may sound a bit provocative, but I > would guess that only a very tiny portion of Macs actually connected to > netatalk servers is unable to run the necessary Appleshare client software. > > I am not familiar with the innards of netatalk, but am I right in guessing > that a sizable part of the complexity of netatalk stems from supporting > appletalk in various ways, including modifying the various unix kernels. > > Using Laserwriter 8.5.1 (which I think can run on MacOS 7.0 and later), we > can also forego AppleTalk when printing. Isn't support for AppleTalk style > printing also a respectable chunk of netatalk software? > > So what I asking is: If one would rip out ALL AppleTalk support from > netatalk and concentrate on AppleShare over IP, wouldn't we get a leaner, > meaner, better product, without really losing anything? > > I don't know enough about netatalk to make this an actual suggestion, but > isn't it a relevant question? > > /Jonas > > --- > Jonas Blomberg (Jonas.Blomberg@Nexus.SE) > Technology Nexus Secure Open Systems AB, Box 857 > 751 08 Uppsala, SWEDEN, +46-18-171800 > > ---------------------------------------------- Andrew McNabb Argus Systems Group amcnabb@argus-systems.com ---------------------------------------------- I am an International Arms Trafficker!!!!! http://online.offshore.com.ai/arms-trafficker/ ---------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 19 20:31:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA12065 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:31:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA12061 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:31:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA18406; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:31:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA18404 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:31:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA18395 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:31:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id RAA08537 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:31:12 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <000015CB.sm@h-e.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AppleShare on IP Date: Thu, 19 Mar 98 17:29:13 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Cc: bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 7551 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:31 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Jonas Blomberg wrote: > Now that the client side of AppleShare on IP has been available from Apple > for quite some time, supporting MacOS versions from 7.5.3 onwards (if I am > not mistaken), isn't it time to consider simply scrapping all the AppleTalk > support in netatalk? I know that this may sound a bit provocative, but I > would guess that only a very tiny portion of Macs actually connected to > netatalk servers is unable to run the necessary Appleshare client software. In my experience it isn't as simple as just having the IP AppleShare client. I have several MacOS applications that seem to be incompatible with ASIP, and require a DDP connection to be "forced" when mounting volumes that the applications will use. These are very old apps, but I wouldn't still be using them if there were some easy way to upgrade. The point is, even having the IP client and the newest MacOS doesn't necessarily eliminate all need for AppleTalk. Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 20 01:33:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id BAA02556 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:33:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA02549 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:32:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id BAA00675; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:32:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id BAA00669 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:32:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [198.7.0.33]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA00665 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:32:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from elf (dfoster.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.216]) by mail2.panix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/PanixM1.3) with SMTP id BAA05961; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:32:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803200632.BAA05961@mail2.panix.com> X-Sender: dfoster@popserver.panix.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 01:27:44 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: David Foster Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AppleShare on IP Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <199803191829.KAA12559@saul6.u.washington.edu> References: <3.0.1.32.19980319182136.00c2e54c@amxdigital.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 01:29 PM 3/19/98 , a sun wrote: > If I have clients running OS8, and the latest asun version of Netatalk, > will I be using the fast or slow version of AppleTalk by default?? > >you get switched to tcp/ip by default. you can change that by using >the appleshare client setup program if you want. > Slight correction to that, I'm pretty sure standard OS8 will connect with AppleTalk by default, OS 8.1 (which you should upgrade to if you've got OS8) will connect via tcp/ip by default. tcp/ip is also the default if you upgraded the ATalk client on an OS8 machine. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 20 03:57:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id DAA05347 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 03:57:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA05331 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 03:57:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA24751; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 03:57:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA24749 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 03:57:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from soleil.ensm-ales.fr (soleil.ensm-ales.fr [159.31.10.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA24745 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 03:56:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from [159.31.10.10] (icare.ensm-ales.fr [159.31.10.10]) by soleil.ensm-ales.fr (8.8.8/jtpda-5.2) with ESMTP id JAA10724 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:13:52 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: lpelliss@soleil Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Eudora Light F3.1.3l Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:11:21 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Laurent PELLISSIER Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: AppleShare on IP Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu =C0 (At) 18:48 +0100 19/03/98, Jonas Blomberg =E9crivait (wrote) : >Now that the client side of AppleShare on IP has been available from Apple >for quite some time, supporting MacOS versions from 7.5.3 onwards (if I am >not mistaken), isn't it time to consider simply scrapping all the AppleTalk >support in netatalk? I know that this may sound a bit provocative, but I >would guess that only a very tiny portion of Macs actually connected to >netatalk servers is unable to run the necessary Appleshare client software. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems that with the chooser of MacOS 8, if you want to connect to an IP AFP server you have to enter its address instead of choosing it in the proposed list as we do with AppleTalk based AFP. This is far from being user friendly for almost all of my users, even if we can make an alias of the server later and drop it on the desk. Happy spring ! Laurent PELLISSIER @ Ecole des Mines d'Ales From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 20 08:32:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA25728 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:32:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA25723 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:32:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA05507; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:32:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA05499 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:32:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from valle.nexus.se (nic.nexus.se [193.15.232.161]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA05477 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by valle.nexus.se; id OAA21581; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:32:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from bond.nexus.se(146.75.32.1) by valle.nexus.se via smap (3.2) id xma021543; Fri, 20 Mar 98 14:32:09 +0100 Received: from [146.75.32.200] (punkt.nexus.se [146.75.32.200]) by bond.nexus.se (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24915; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:32:07 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: punkt@bond.nexus.se Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:32:07 +0100 To: Rob Newberry From: Jonas Blomberg Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AppleShare on IP Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Ron Newberry wrote: >While I think it might be a useful compile-time option to disable >AppleTalk support, I believe you are quite wrong in your assumptions. > >A lot of the client Macintoshes that connect to netatalk servers are >probably in universities. As such, they're probably NOT running OS 8, and >they're probably NOT running an AFP/TCP-capable client. > >As to printing, again, most clients probably are NOT using LaserWriter >8.5.1, and probably won't be for a while -- some never will. > You're quite right of course (although a AFP/TCP client doesn't require OS8, but maybe thats not what you said). The fact that users theoretically can get and use a thing doesn't mean that they will. In a corporate environment, it is probably easier (or at least more common :-) to impose certain requirements on desktop computers. >Finally, many netatalk users use the printing portion in the reverse >situation -- as a client to print to AppleTalk printers. Lots of folks >have old LaserWriters that only speak AppleTalk on their networks -- >netatalk allows a UNIX server to print to those machines which DON'T speak >LPR. > Can't argue with that. >While I'm glad Apple's latest clients are moving towards IP, it will be a >LONG time before the majority of users are capable of using those >services alone. > Also, as has been mentioned, services based on IP don't make themselves known as conveniently as AppleTalk services in the chooser. But still, just out of curiosity, IF one ripped out EVERYTHING except AppleShare over IP, how much would remain in terms of code size or compile-time platform-dependent #ifdefs or whatever measure is relevant? /Jonas --- Jonas Blomberg (Jonas.Blomberg@Nexus.SE) Technology Nexus Secure Open Systems AB, Box 857 751 08 Uppsala, SWEDEN, +46-18-171800 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 20 13:02:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA03792 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:02:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA03785 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:01:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA03326; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:01:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA03309 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:01:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA03292 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:01:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-216.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.216]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA10961 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:01:30 -0800 Message-Id: <199803201901.LAA10961@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Question on accessing remote volumes over TCP/IP... Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:00:01 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I was wondering... If I install asun's TCP installation on my web-server (which is hosted quite a ways from my perosnal location), can I then mount my server's volumes directly on my Mac desktop? I understand that TCP access provides a speed boost in local (LAN) environments, but I'm wondering if I can also benefit on remote volumes, hosted elsewhere? Yes, I know, I could also just install it, and see what happens, but I'm wondering if anyone else has done this, and what their results/findings were. Thanks, Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 20 13:22:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA04919 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:22:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov (leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.127.224]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id NAA04912 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:22:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19132 invoked by uid 701); 20 Mar 1998 18:22:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19980320132203.33735@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:22:03 -0500 From: "Paul J. Schinder" To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Question on accessing remote volumes over TCP/IP... References: <199803201901.LAA10961@nucleus.fizbin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199803201901.LAA10961@nucleus.fizbin.com>; from Harry Zink on Fri, Mar 20, 1998 at 10:00:01AM -0800 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, Mar 20, 1998 at 10:00:01AM -0800, Harry Zink wrote: } I was wondering... } } If I install asun's TCP installation on my web-server (which is hosted } quite a ways from my perosnal location), can I then mount my server's } volumes directly on my Mac desktop? Yeah, sure. I do this over my PPP link on occasion. At 33.6k, it's not something I do every day, but it does work. } } I understand that TCP access provides a speed boost in local (LAN) } environments, but I'm wondering if I can also benefit on remote volumes, } hosted elsewhere? I haven't directly compared speed to ARA because I used ARA so rarely, but I didn't notice any spectacular improvement. The nice thing is that you don't have to switch into ARA just to mount remote disks. } } Yes, I know, I could also just install it, and see what happens, but I'm } wondering if anyone else has done this, and what their results/findings } were. } } Thanks, } } Harry -- -------- Paul J. Schinder NASA Goddard Space Flight Center schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 20 13:35:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA05659 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:35:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA05636 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:35:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA27419; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:35:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA27417 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:35:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA27413 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:35:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-183.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.183]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA12251 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:35:20 -0800 Message-Id: <199803201935.LAA12251@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] (Michael Han) Question on accessing remote volumes over TCP/IP... Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:33:52 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Was the benefit you're looking for speed or convenience? Purely convenience. I have a ton of different web-sites on my server, and it would help me a great deal if I could just mount that various directories on my desktop, and access and update them quickly by dragging and dropping. If I have to suffer a speed hit for that, I wouldn't mind (unless it's a HUGE speed hit, which I doubt). Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 20 14:43:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA08217 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:43:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA08209 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:43:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA08073 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:38:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA11522; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:38:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA11514 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:38:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA11479 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:38:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA02267; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:38:26 GMT Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:38:25 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: David Foster cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AppleShare on IP In-Reply-To: <199803200632.BAA05961@mail2.panix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu If you are using AppleShare client 3.7 or newer and TCP-IP is enabled and the server you connect to claims to support AFP over TCP then the client will try to use AFP over TCP. If that fails then it will revert to AppleTalk. MacOS8 comes with version 3.7.2 and 8.1 uses 3.7.4. On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, David Foster wrote: > At 01:29 PM 3/19/98 , a sun wrote: > > If I have clients running OS8, and the latest asun version of Netatalk, > > will I be using the fast or slow version of AppleTalk by default?? > > > >you get switched to tcp/ip by default. you can change that by using > >the appleshare client setup program if you want. > > > > Slight correction to that, I'm pretty sure standard OS8 will connect with > AppleTalk by default, OS 8.1 (which you should upgrade to if you've got > OS8) will connect via tcp/ip by default. tcp/ip is also the default if you > upgraded the ATalk client on an OS8 machine. -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 20 19:23:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA17578 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:23:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA17574 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:23:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA19332; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:23:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA19330 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:23:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA19317 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:23:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-28.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.28]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA20493; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:23:01 -0800 Message-Id: <199803210123.RAA20493@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Strange behavior compiling asun's netatalk... Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:21:30 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink To: "Harry Zink" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu So, I'm trying to install the asun a18 installation on my web-server. This specific server is running Linux 2.0.32, from a Slackware distribution. I commented out all the parts I don't need in the main Makefile - DES, TCPWrapper (my system doesn't have that lib), and so on. The README also states to make some changes to sys/linux/Makefile, which I did. I do a 'make' and get nothing but errors. Now, here's the interesting part. It appears that these errors *ONLY* appear when I make *ANY* kind of change to the sys/linux/Makefile - even if I undo the changes. In fact, if I untar a new source tree, and only go into the sys/linux director, add a space to the Makefile, promptly remove the space, and save the Makefile (effectively NOT making any changes), I'm right back into 'error hell'. If I do a 'make' on a virgin source tree, all is fine (but it won't compile for my system, of course). This is weird, as I think the only change that is really left is that the date of the directories has changed, and I highly doubt that will have any effect. Does anyone have any idea what's going on...? Needless to say, I'm a tad confused. Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 20 20:12:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA18739 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:12:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA18734 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:12:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA22120; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:12:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA22114 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:12:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA22107; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:11:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id RAA14347; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:11:57 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <000015DE.sm@h-e.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] current netatalk plans Date: Fri, 20 Mar 98 16:49:15 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: wesley.craig@umich.edu Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 7949 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:11 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >> (An aside for the programmers: I see in the code that FNUMs for files >> are derived from Unix inode numbers, so they are more or less fixed; >> why can't DIDs for folders be derived from the inode numbers of >> directories? Wouldn't that solve the problem, or at least be a >> temporary fix until it can be done "right"?) > >The Mac implementation allows us to return FNUMs that are unique only >in the given directory, i.e. the inode number. Since the inode number >of the root of any given mounted directory is 2, it's not practical to >use inode numbers for DIDs -- in /, say, /usr and /var could both be >DID 2. Wes- Do you think this will work if afpd volumes are set up so they never cross Unix filesystems? That would guarantee the directory inode numbers are unique within a volume. I don't have a problem with restricting volumes this way, I already have dedicated filesystems for the afpd volumes. Obviously this would be a site-specific "hack" and not a general solution, but it seems like it should work for me. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated! Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 20 20:15:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA19118 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:15:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA19092 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:15:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA25985; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:15:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA25978 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:15:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA25969 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:15:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-92.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.92]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA20924; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:14:49 -0800 Message-Id: <199803210214.SAA20924@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Strange behavior compiling asun's netatalk... Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:13:18 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink To: "Andras Kadinger" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >GNU Make version 3.76.1, by Richard Stallman and Roland McGrath. My 'make' says: GNU Make version 3.74, by Richard Stallman and Roland McGrath. Seems the installation on that particular system is getting a bit out of date. Could that be the problem? Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 20 20:33:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA20382 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:33:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA20376 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:33:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA15663 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:43:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA20919; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:43:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA20917 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from babba.advancenet.net (babba.advancenet.net [205.198.248.21]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA20913 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 17:43:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.argus-systems.com (ranger.argus-systems.com [206.221.232.80]) by babba.advancenet.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA18163; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:44:31 -0600 Received: from localhost by mail.argus-systems.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA03296; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:43:25 -0600 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 16:43:25 -0600 From: Andrew McNabb To: Laurent PELLISSIER cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: AppleShare on IP In-Reply-To: 33 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu However, at least with some versions of AppleShare, it will automatically connect to the IP server, which is faster. On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Laurent PELLISSIER wrote: > =C0 (At) 18:48 +0100 19/03/98, Jonas Blomberg =E9crivait (wrote) : >=20 > >Now that the client side of AppleShare on IP has been available from App= le > >for quite some time, supporting MacOS versions from 7.5.3 onwards (if I = am > >not mistaken), isn't it time to consider simply scrapping all the AppleT= alk > >support in netatalk? I know that this may sound a bit provocative, but I > >would guess that only a very tiny portion of Macs actually connected to > >netatalk servers is unable to run the necessary Appleshare client softwa= re. >=20 > =09Maybe I'm wrong but it seems that with the chooser of MacOS 8, if > you want to connect to an IP AFP server you have to enter its address > instead of choosing it in the proposed list as we do with AppleTalk based > AFP. This is far from being user friendly for almost all of my users, eve= n > if we can make an alias of the server later and drop it on the desk. Happ= y > spring ! >=20 >=20 > Laurent PELLISSIER @ Ecole des Mines d'Ales >=20 >=20 ---------------------------------------------- Andrew McNabb Argus Systems Group amcnabb@argus-systems.com ---------------------------------------------- I am an International Arms Trafficker!!!!! http://online.offshore.com.ai/arms-trafficker/ ---------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 20 21:10:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA21310 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:10:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA21303 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:10:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA10157; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:10:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA10155 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:10:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA10151 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:10:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id DAA00237 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 03:10:15 +0100 Message-ID: <351320F5.53390C65@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 03:07:49 +0100 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] current netatalk plans References: <000015DE.sm@h-e.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu [Sorry for the private copy Bob, I just didn't check the To: line the first time.] bsmith@h-e.com wrote: > Do you think this will work if afpd volumes are set up so they never cross Unix > filesystems? That would guarantee the directory inode numbers are unique within > a volume. I don't have a problem with restricting volumes this way, I already > have dedicated filesystems for the afpd volumes. Obviously this would be a > site-specific "hack" and not a general solution, but it seems like it should > work for me. Might there be some way to put a major:minor or other filesystem identifier combined with the inode number in that field? This should be reasonably stable on a given machine even between afpd sessions. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 20 23:11:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id XAA24362 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:11:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA24358 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:11:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id XAA24055; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:11:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id XAA24051 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:11:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA24047 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:11:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id UAA17811; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:11:09 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <000015E0.sm@h-e.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] current netatalk plans Date: Fri, 20 Mar 98 19:18:41 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: bandit@freeside.elte.hu (Andras Kadinger) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 8014 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:11 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >> Do you think this will work if afpd volumes are set up so they never cross Unix >> filesystems? That would guarantee the directory inode numbers are unique within >> a volume. I don't have a problem with restricting volumes this way, I already >> have dedicated filesystems for the afpd volumes. Obviously this would be a >> site-specific "hack" and not a general solution, but it seems like it should >> work for me. > >Might there be some way to put a major:minor or other filesystem >identifier combined with the inode number in that field? This should be >reasonably stable on a given machine even between afpd sessions. I thought of that too, however the directory IDs (DID) and file IDs (FNUM) have to co-exist so that DID < FNUM in all cases on a given volume. The FNUMs are already being computed as the file inode number with the device number shifted into the high bits to guarantee they are > DIDs, which are assigned sequentially starting with 3 and so are always relatively small. The only way to use inode numbers for DIDs without also changing the way FNUMs are computed is to make sure the DIDs have the appropriate high bits zeroed so they are always smaller than FNUMs Actually, even with this idea the FNUM computation has to change slightly. Currently only the lower 16 bits of the inode number are used, with the device number shifted into the upper 16 bits. Even on relatively small filesystems inode numbers can be > 65535, so to make sure DIDs stay unique, more bits of the inode number have to be preserved in the FNUMs and DIDs. How much depends on the maximum possible inode number, which depends on the filesystem size, so a particular number of bits is not going to work in all cases. There may be some other scheme for deriving IDs from device/inode numbers with the necessary properties of DID < FNUM and DID uniqueness even across filesystems, but I think it would be really tough to come up with something that works in every conceivable situation. Wes is correct that the "right" solution is to generate the IDs without dependence on the Unix filesystem, and store them in a database somewhere. But I'm looking for a short-term "hack" that will work for me. The devil is always in the details! Bob From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Mar 21 17:29:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA06034 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 17:29:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA06030 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 17:29:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA02787; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 17:29:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA02783 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 17:29:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from goddess.coe.missouri.edu (goddess.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.71]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA02764 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 17:29:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from [128.206.158.52] (baroque.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.52]) by goddess.coe.missouri.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA16316; Sat, 21 Mar 1998 16:28:43 -0600 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 16:28:42 -0600 From: Mark Donnelly Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Strange behavior compiling asun's netatalk... To: Harry Zink , Harry Zink , netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <199803210123.RAA20493@nucleus.fizbin.com> Message-ID: X-Authenticated: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >In fact, if I untar a new source tree, and only go into the sys/linux >director, add a space to the Makefile, promptly remove the space, and >save the Makefile (effectively NOT making any changes), I'm right back >into 'error hell'. Harry: What is your editor of choice? I know from woeful past experience that pico will word-wrap lines even if you don't edit them; the solution is to either have a HUUUUGE xterm for pico, or to use an editor that won't wrap (like xemacs). --Mark "I think so Brain, but if they called them sad meals, then no one would buy them." From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 23 11:26:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA25730 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:26:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA25721 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:25:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA19912; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:25:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA19902 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:25:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from typeline.com (www.typeline.com [209.116.143.131]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA19889 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:25:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from typeline.com (typeline.com [209.116.143.131]) by typeline.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA14211 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:24:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from web@typeline.com) Message-ID: <35168CD3.167EB0E7@typeline.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:24:51 -0500 From: Typeline Webmaster Organization: Typeline, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk-1.4b2 crashes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I've been running Netatalk-1.4b2 with atalk patch for Freebsd 2.2.5 for the past few weeks. We have 6 Mac clients running 7.5.3 to 8.1. Everything runs fine for a day or two until Netatalk crashes. When we start Netatalk from bootup these crashes freeze the machine completely. When we start Netatalk from netatalk.sh manually after booting, Netatalk becomes unavailable from AppleShare in the Chooser. This is precided by the following syslog verbage from Netatalk: Mar 23 10:51:07 netatalk01 afpd[7900]: afp_write: asp_wrtcont: No buffer space available Mar 23 10:51:07 netatalk01 afpd[7900]: asp_wrtreply: No buffer space available Mar 23 10:51:07 netatalk01 afpd[7681]: asp_cmdreply: No buffer space available Mar 23 10:51:07 netatalk01 afpd[278]: atp_sreq to (16) 24832.27:252 Mar 23 10:51:07 netatalk01 afpd[278]: atp_sreq to (16) 24832.219:251 Mar 23 10:56:36 netatalk01 afpd[278]: atp_sreq to (16) 24832.110:252 Mar 23 10:56:36 netatalk01 afpd[278]: atp_sreq to (16) 24832.219:251 Mar 23 10:56:37 netatalk01 /kernel: ddp_route: still have no valid route Mar 23 10:56:38 netatalk01 /kernel: ddp_route: still have no valid route Can anyone help me figure out what's happening here? Thanks Bob Badaracco From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 23 16:59:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA08532 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:59:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA08513 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:59:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA07677 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:51:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA04957; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:51:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA04948 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:51:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA04937 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:51:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA04284 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:50:56 GMT Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:50:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Strange behavior compiling asun's netatalk... In-Reply-To: <199803210123.RAA20493@nucleus.fizbin.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Harry Zink wrote: [snip tale of woe about netatalk failing to compile] Perhaps you could tell us which editor you are using, and what errors you are getting? -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 24 10:47:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA00474 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:47:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA00470 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:47:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA16108; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:47:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA16089 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:47:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from [194.175.52.2] ([194.175.52.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA16039 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:47:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from MIDRAS.de (194.175.52.29) by [194.175.52.2] with ESMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:01:34 +0000 Message-ID: <3517E36B.16160F0@MIDRAS.de> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:47:25 +0000 From: Jochen Haeberle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: [netatalk-admins] socket: Invalid argument Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I am trying to transfer my (rather) working netatalk installation from one linux box to another. So I tried transferring the sources over (netatlk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2) and compile those. This worked. But when running those binaries from the new machine, I get the following errors from atalkd: socket: Invalid argument socket: Invalid argument atalkd: can't get interfaces, exiting. What could this be??? Thanks for your help! Jochen From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 24 11:19:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA02368 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:19:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA02361 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:18:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA00525; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:18:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA00522 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:18:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA00501 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 11:18:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (vivek@malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by malkav.imaginet.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA02150; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:17:35 GMT Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:17:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Vivek To: Jochen Haeberle cc: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] socket: Invalid argument In-Reply-To: <3517E36B.16160F0@MIDRAS.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Jochen Haeberle wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to transfer my (rather) working netatalk installation from one > linux box to another. So I tried transferring the sources over > (netatlk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2) and compile those. This worked. But when running > those binaries from the new machine, I get the following errors from atalkd: > > socket: Invalid argument > socket: Invalid argument > atalkd: can't get interfaces, exiting. Has the second box got the right stuff compiled in to its kernel or modules? -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 24 14:30:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA10175 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:30:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA10163 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:29:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA07053 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA16123; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:12:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA16121 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:12:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from heorot.cks.com (heorot.cks.com [209.116.197.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA16110 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:12:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by heorot.cks.com id m0yHYBW-000AC6C (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:12:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19980324101226.45536@heorot> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:12:26 -0800 From: David Welton To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Can't stop CR/LF translation... Reply-To: davidw@cks.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I seem to be encountering a problem with the end of line character translation. I first noticed this when I used the server I have set up to transfer some gif's from my boss. He created them on his windoze box, then placed them in a shared directory hosted by a Mac appletalk server. >From there I moved them to my own netatalk server, clicking and dragging with a mac... At this point I went to open an image, and, lo and behold, corruption! I spent some time digging around in various docs, and examining the files with vi, and noticed that it is translating ^M's into \n's. This does not make the gifs look very pretty:-> So I went to change AppleVolumes.system in /etc/netatalk, and I restarted the server (first I tried hupping it twice, to no effect), after having edited it to the following: . BINA UNIX # . TEXT UNIX .... .gif GIFf JVWR It is still doing the translation.. is there something I am missing? I would rather it did no translation than having it do it badly and screw things up. Thanks for your time, -- David Welton http://www.efn.org/~davidw Debian GNU/Linux - www.debian.org From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 24 15:30:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA14572 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:30:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA14551 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:30:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA08755; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:30:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA08753 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:30:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from heorot.cks.com (heorot.cks.com [209.116.197.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA08747 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 15:30:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by heorot.cks.com id m0yHaKW-000AC6C (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:29:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19980324122952.63586@heorot> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 12:29:52 -0800 From: David Welton To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Cant' seem to disable CR/LF tranlation.. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I seem to be encountering a problem with the end of line character translation. I first noticed this when I used the server I have set up to transfer some gif's from my boss. He created them on his windoze box, then placed them in a shared directory hosted by a Mac appletalk server. >From there I moved them to my own netatalk server, clicking and dragging with a mac... At this point I went to open an image, and, lo and behold, corruption! I spent some time digging around in various docs, and examining the files with vi, and noticed that it is translating ^M's into \n's. This does not make the gifs look very pretty:-> So I went to change AppleVolumes.system in /etc/netatalk, and I restarted the server (first I tried hupping it twice, to no effect), after having edited it to the following: . BINA UNIX # . TEXT UNIX .... .gif GIFf JVWR It is still doing the translation.. is there something I am missing? I would rather it did no translation than having it do it badly and screw things up. Thanks for your time, -- David Welton http://www.efn.org/~davidw Debian GNU/Linux - www.debian.org From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 24 18:02:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA21056 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:02:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA21050 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:02:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA19671; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:02:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA19669 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:02:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.nmc.siu.edu (orion.nmc.siu.edu [131.230.35.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA19665 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:02:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fleming@localhost) by orion.nmc.siu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.4) id RAA19754 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:02:02 -0600 From: "Paul M. Fleming" Message-Id: <199803242302.RAA19754@orion.nmc.siu.edu> Subject: [netatalk-admins] 100MB PCI Ethernet card synopsis To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:02:01 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Here is the summary of info I recieved about 100MB PCI Ethernet cards. Based on the info on www.xinet.com/benchmarks i think we'll stick with Asante, but here's the info for those that requested it. Paul >From jmaurer@opus5.de Mon Mar 23 02:33:23 1998 Hi, > I'm looking for suggestions on PCI 100BaseT cards for Macintosh systems. > I use the Vortex & Tulip based cards in my PC's any suggestions for the Mac. > We currently use Asante, anyone have any experiences w/ other cards. We're looking into getting SMC EtherPower II (9432) cards for our network (PCs and Macs). SMC have Mac drivers on their homepage, but we haven't tested them yet. I'm currently making sure that the current chip revision has all bugs of the previous one fixed. Bugs were: - Multicast filtering is broken - You cannot maintain 100Mbps sustained receive rate in full duplex mode, because there's some internal bottleneck at 83 Mbps. Jens. -- Jens Maurer Tel. +49 6102 7761-20 / Fax. -50 opus 5 interaktive medien gmbh Neu-Isenburg, Germany >From fenton@ccic.gov Tue Mar 24 10:13:24 1998 >I'm looking for suggestions on PCI 100BaseT cards for Macintosh systems. >I use the Vortex & Tulip based cards in my PC's any suggestions for the Mac. >We currently use Asante, anyone have any experiences w/ other cards. > >Thanks > >Paul Don't know what else you've learned so far but there are benchmarks at www.xinet.com comparing a few fast ethernet cards connected to their "netatalk like" server. http://www.xinet.com/benchmarks/ >From bandit@freeside.elte.hu Fri Mar 20 14:19:12 1998 Paul, For I see no replies on the list, I decided to tell You the little I know about this. Paul M. Fleming wrote: > I'm looking for suggestions on PCI 100BaseT cards for Macintosh systems. > I use the Vortex & Tulip based cards in my PC's any suggestions for the Mac. > We currently use Asante, anyone have any experiences w/ other cards. I've had a test setup, where I had a P133 based Linux (tulip) with netatalk against a medium and a high-end Mac. I tried different tulip-based 'clone' cards in the Macs, and I had constantly about 1,5MB/sec with some cards, where ~4MB/sec with others. So try to make some tests before You buy more of a given model. As of vendors, I looked at znyx's website (www.znyx.com); they look like their tulip-based product is a good one (note, that I have no actual experience with them), and they sell a 4-in-one 100BaseT tulip-based card, which might come very handy in some situations. I have virtually no information about other 100BaseT vendors/chips. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu >From fenton@ccic.gov Thu Mar 19 22:46:18 1998 >I'm looking for suggestions on PCI 100BaseT cards for Macintosh systems. >I use the Vortex & Tulip based cards in my PC's any suggestions for the Mac. >We currently use Asante, anyone have any experiences w/ other cards. > >Thanks > >Paul If you receive private email please be kind enough to summarize on the list as I'd be interested to hear what you find. I have not had much experience with Fast Ethernet on the Mac but did succeed in running an SMC Etherpower card on my PowerMac 9500. I simply used a PC card with the downloadable Mac driver from SMC. I hear that Kingston sells an inexpensive Mac compatible tulip card. I may have more information for you in the coming week as I should (finally) receive our four new Apple G3 systems (one will include Apple's "fast ethernet" option as available from the Apple Store) Networking performance in my PowerMac 9500 has been increasing steadily with new CPU upgrades (now G3) and Mac OS updates. Still I wouldn't expect to see performance like is common on other platforms. This is surely influenced by caching in the OS and in the SCSI controller but I routinely transfer large files from linux to Windows NT box with transfer rates at around 6 mbytes/sec. >From merkjj@uleth.ca Wed Mar 18 13:48:43 1998 Paul M. Fleming wrote: > I'm look for 100BaseT PCI cards for Macintosh. I'm currently using Asante > cards but their rather expense. What are other people using? > > Thanks > > Paul I personally run screaming like a frightened little girl from Asante cards in general. Try 3Com...My boss says they're the best. ...Tho they're expensive too. 100baseT cards are painfully expensive to begin with. -Jeremiah Merkl -University of Lethbridge Student Computer Lab From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 24 22:12:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA26960 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:12:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA26956 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:12:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id WAA01464; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:12:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id WAA01462 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:12:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA01451 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:12:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id TAA09503; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:11:50 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <000014DD.sm@h-e.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Can't stop CR/LF translation... Date: Tue, 24 Mar 98 18:57:05 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: davidw@gate.cks.com (David Welton) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 324 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:11 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Original message sent on Tue, Mar 24 10:12 AM by davidw@gate.cks.com (David Welton) : > I first noticed this when I used the server I have set up to transfer > some gif's from my boss. He created them on his windoze box, then > placed them in a shared directory hosted by a Mac appletalk server. > From there I moved them to my own netatalk server, clicking and > dragging with a mac... At this point I went to open an image, and, lo > and behold, corruption! > > ...So I went to change AppleVolumes.system in /etc/netatalk, and I > restarted the server (first I tried hupping it twice, to no effect), > after having edited it to the following: > > . BINA UNIX > # . TEXT UNIX The AppleVolumes.system mappings apply only to files that do not already have a type and creator (i.e. files created from the Unix side). Any file copied to a netatalk volume from the Mac will already have a type and creator, and the AppleVolumes.system mappings will not "override" those. In your case it sounds like the file types were set to "TEXT" when the files were copied from the Windows machine, so the file types will remain "TEXT" no matter what you do to the AppleVolumes.system file and netatalk will continue to translate the files. There are two possible solutions, one would be to prevent the files from being typed as "TEXT" to start with. This would depend on the software being used to copy the files from the Windows machine to the AppleShare server; that is where the file type is being defined in this case. The other solution is to completely disable netatalk's CR/LF translation, which is simply a matter of re-compiling netatalk after removing the "-DCRLF" option from etc/afpd/Makefile. Hope this helps! Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 25 04:23:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA10937 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:23:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA10933 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:23:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id EAA16712; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:23:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id EAA16710 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:23:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.tpgi.com.au (newmail.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.54]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA16706 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:23:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by newmail.tpgi.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA14216 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:23:49 +1100 Received: from tar-ppp-162.tpgi.com.au(203.26.26.162), claiming to be "gretchen" via SMTP by buffy.tpgi.com.au, id smtpda14203; Wed Mar 25 20:23:44 1998 From: "Eddie Irvine" To: Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk services appear in only one zone. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:26:55 +1000 Message-ID: <01bd57d0$272397a0$a21a1acb@gretchen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! Netatalk is running on a FreeBSD box with two ethernet interfaces. One goes to a LAN in room 1 (zone "ROOM1"), the other interface goes to a LAN in room 2 (zone "ROOM2"). I have managed to set up atalkd.conf so that it seeds the zones with the names above, and routing between zones seems to work. Thus, a mac in "ROOM2" can see a mac in "ROOM1". So far so good. The trouble is, the netatalk services (AppleShare and Print Spooling) only seem to register in the first zone - "ROOM1". The chooser shows nothing to choose in zone "ROOM2", even when I am on a mac in "ROOM2". 1 Is this actually a big deal? I can connect a computer in ROOM2 to netatalk simply by selecting the zone "ROOM1" in the chooser. Will computers in ROOM2 slow down the LAN for computers in ROOM1 ? 2 I must be missing something here! The netatalk FAQ-Matic alludes to this problem but gives no firm examples. They talk about a file called "rc.atalk" . Is this just the startup script called at boot time that Linux uses? Thanks in advance. Any working examples appreciated. Eddie. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 25 04:31:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA11297 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:31:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA11274 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:31:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id EAA17477; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:31:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id EAA17475 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:31:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.tpgi.com.au (newmail.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.54]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA17466 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:31:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by newmail.tpgi.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA15504 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:31:50 +1100 Received: from tar-ppp-162.tpgi.com.au(203.26.26.162), claiming to be "gretchen" via SMTP by buffy.tpgi.com.au, id smtpda15487; Wed Mar 25 20:31:44 1998 From: "Eddie Irvine" To: "Netatalk-Admins" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Fw: Netatalk services appear in only one zone. Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:34:56 +1000 Message-ID: <01bd57d1$45702240$a21a1acb@gretchen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu -----Original Message----- From: Eddie Irvine To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Wednesday, 25 March 1998 19:26 Subject: Netatalk services appear in only one zone. >Hi! > >Netatalk is running on a FreeBSD box with two ethernet interfaces. >One goes to a LAN in room 1 (zone "ROOM1"), the other interface goes to a >LAN >in room 2 (zone "ROOM2"). > >I have managed to set up atalkd.conf so that it seeds the zones with the >names >above, and routing between zones seems to work. Thus, a mac in "ROOM2" >can see a mac in "ROOM1". So far so good. > >The trouble is, the netatalk services (AppleShare and Print Spooling) only >seem to >register in the first zone - "ROOM1". The chooser shows nothing to choose >in zone >"ROOM2", even when I am on a mac in "ROOM2". > >1 Is this actually a big deal? I can connect a computer in ROOM2 to >netatalk simply by > selecting the zone "ROOM1" in the chooser. Will computers in ROOM2 >slow down the LAN for > computers in ROOM1 ? > >2 I must be missing something here! The netatalk FAQ-Matic alludes to >this problem > but gives no firm examples. They talk about a file called "rc.atalk" . >Is this just the > startup script called at boot time that Linux uses? > > > >Thanks in advance. Any working examples appreciated. > >Eddie. > > From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 25 04:58:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA12033 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:58:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA12027 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:58:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id EAA21530; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:58:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id EAA21528 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:58:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.tpgi.com.au (newmail.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.54]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA21523 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 04:58:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by newmail.tpgi.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA19473 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:58:23 +1100 Received: from tar-ppp-177.tpgi.com.au(203.26.26.177), claiming to be "gretchen" via SMTP by buffy.tpgi.com.au, id smtpda19467; Wed Mar 25 20:58:21 1998 From: "Eddie Irvine" To: Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk services appear in only one zone (unmangled text this time) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:01:32 +1000 Message-ID: <01bd57d4$fd43bc80$b11a1acb@gretchen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! Netatalk is running on a FreeBSD box with two ethernet interfaces. One goes to a LAN in room 1 (zone "ROOM1"), the other interface goes to a LAN in room 2 (zone "ROOM2"). There are no other LANs apart from "ROOM1" and "ROOM2". I do have a genuine Mac IP-5 fileserver that I also plan to connect to both zones with multi-homing, however. But it can't do routing, unlike netatalk :) . At the moment only one interface is up, to ROOM1. I have managed to set up atalkd.conf so that it seeds the zones with the names above, and routing between zones seems to work. Thus, a mac in "ROOM2" can see a mac in "ROOM1". So far so good. The trouble is, the netatalk services (AppleShare and Print Spooling) only seem to register in the first zone - "ROOM1". The chooser shows nothing to choose in zone "ROOM2", even when I am on a mac in "ROOM2". 1 Is this actually a big deal? I can connect a computer in ROOM2 to netatalk simply by selecting the zone "ROOM1" in the chooser. Will this cause computers in "ROOM2" slow down the LAN for computers in "ROOM1" ? 2 I must be missing something here! The netatalk FAQ-Matic alludes to this problem but gives no firm examples. They talk about a file called "rc.atalk" . Is this just the startup script called at boot time that Linux uses? (I use FreeBSD, not Linux, and my startup script is just called "netatalk.sh" . 3 Or perhaps netatalk services will only register in ONE zone? Is this so? Thanks in advance. Any working examples appreciated. Eddie. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 25 07:30:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA00615 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:30:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA00574 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:30:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id HAA11252; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:30:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id HAA11241 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:30:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from valerie.inf.elte.hu (valerie.inf.elte.hu [157.181.50.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA11209 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 07:30:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (szoli@localhost) by valerie.inf.elte.hu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA05244 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:30:06 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:30:06 +0100 (MET) From: SEBESTYEN Zoltan To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Newbie questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I've just installed FreeBSD2.2.2/netatalk-1.4.2b in replacement of an NT4.0 as a Mac fileserver. Now it works fine, but I've got to set it up as a spooler of a Crossfield imagesetter and an AppleLaserWriter. I've already got the ppd files and started to write the atalkd.conf file, but into some problems. The imagesetter and the printer are on the network and they communicate with the Macs and PC(not yet) via AppleTalk. So I must make up somehow their 'address'. I'm a newbie to the Mac world so please tell me how to find out their 'address' if that's what is required. The only thing I know that the machines are in one zone called 'alma' (stands for 'apple') and the 'range' is 0-254. The next question is about the AppleVolumes files. What's the real difference between the AppleVolumes.system, AppleVolumes.default and the users' $HOME/AppleVolumes files? I created an account on FBSD especially for the the Macs to get the shared disk space of the PC. At first I didn't gave it password, because in this local network noone had password, they don't want to bother with it. But I couldn't log from the Macs(so they could have 'mounted' the shared disks) in until I gave some password to the account. Why is it so? It's FreeBSD who refused the logins or netatalk? THanks in advance, Zoltan Sebestyen From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 25 09:07:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA02893 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:07:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA02889 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:07:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA08172; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:07:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA08170 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:07:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from [194.175.52.2] ([194.175.52.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA08161 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:07:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from MIDRAS.de (194.175.52.29) by [194.175.52.2] with ESMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:21:19 +0000 Message-ID: <35191D6D.9B683066@MIDRAS.de> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:07:08 +0000 From: Jochen Haeberle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: [netatalk-admins] socket: Invalid argument Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A549876ACB99CCB16719BB3D" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A549876ACB99CCB16719BB3D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------A549876ACB99CCB16719BB3D Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <3517E36B.16160F0@MIDRAS.de> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:47:25 +0000 From: Jochen Haeberle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: socket: Invalid argument Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am trying to transfer my (rather) working netatalk installation from one linux box to another. So I tried transferring the sources over (netatlk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2) and compile those. This worked. But when running those binaries from the new machine, I get the following errors from atalkd: socket: Invalid argument socket: Invalid argument atalkd: can't get interfaces, exiting. What could this be??? Thanks for your help! Jochen --------------A549876ACB99CCB16719BB3D-- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 25 12:19:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA09094 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:19:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA09090 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:19:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA28483; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:19:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA28474 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:19:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ws142.spray.fi (ws142.spray.fi [195.10.150.142]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA28456 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:19:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from oa@localhost) by ws142.spray.fi (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA06455; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:20:03 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] afpd, PAM and syslog From: Osma Ahvenlampi Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 25 Mar 1998 21:20:03 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 39 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu First, apologies for the choice of medium, this list most likely is not the correct place for this. However, I just can't handle subscribing to more mailing lists now. Besides, I couldn't find any addresses for generic PAM related questions in my quick scan of the PAM docs I have. I'm running netatalk 1.4b2 + asun2.0a18.2, built as per the RPM I recently made for Red Hat 5.0. I just noticed a problem in the build that while not critical from service standpoint, is a major annoyance to administration; syslog messages are logged under PAM_pwdb instead of Netatalk! You can imagine how difficult this makes sorting the messages. After some investigation I think this might be caused by the following: 1) afpd calls openlog() very early in the process, in fact just after reading command line arguments, and specifically BEFORE forking for a new user and authenticating that user. 2) PAM (pam_pwdb) apparently internally calls openlog() as well, implicitly closing afpd's original log handle. 3) After PAM functions are called and the user is authenticated, afpd simply uses syslog() and the messages are logged under the handle opened by PAM. Now, fundamentally this is an example of a major problem with the syslog functionality; subsystems of the same process have to log under the same service name or reset syslog handles every time they're entered. Syslog isn't really re-entrant as is should be. However, syslog being what it is, I don't think that can be helped. Some workaround has to be implemented in netatalk's PAM code instead. I _think_ that as a quick hack at least, re-opening the syslog in the end of the PAM sections of clrtxt_passwd() and afp_changepw() would solve my problem. I don't know if it is a generally workable solution, though. -- The universe is laughing behind your back. Osma Ahvenlampi From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 25 13:06:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA10943 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:06:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA10939 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:06:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA16651; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:06:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA16648 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:06:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from [194.175.52.2] ([194.175.52.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA16602 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:06:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from MIDRAS.de (194.175.52.29) by [194.175.52.2] with ESMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:20:40 +0000 Message-ID: <35195585.E4D079B2@MIDRAS.de> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:05:54 +0000 From: Jochen Haeberle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: christ@netit.be, "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] socket: Invalid argument References: <35191D6D.9B683066@MIDRAS.de> <3519118A.48A0C662@netit.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi Chris, I thought this too, but no. The Modules are compiled and installed, but I even can't "find" them in the running kernel. When I do lsmod, I get nothing... Jochen chris thoen wrote: > > I think you forgot to compile appletalk in the kernel of your new system. > > Chris > > Jochen Haeberle wrote: > > > Subject: socket: Invalid argument > > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:47:25 +0000 > > From: Jochen Haeberle > > To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" > > > > Hi, > > > > I am trying to transfer my (rather) working netatalk installation from one > > linux box to another. So I tried transferring the sources over > > (netatlk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2) and compile those. This worked. But when running > > those binaries from the new machine, I get the following errors from atalkd: > > > > socket: Invalid argument > > socket: Invalid argument > > atalkd: can't get interfaces, exiting. > > > > What could this be??? > > > > Thanks for your help! > > > > Jochen > > -- > Chris THOEN > Systeembeheerder Net it be > Posthoflei 3 > 2600 BERCHEM > tel : 03/286.04.34 > fax : 03/286.04.70 > email : christ@netit.be > url : www.netit.be From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 25 13:10:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA11206 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:10:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA11196 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:09:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA17672; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:09:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA17668 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:09:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from [194.175.52.2] ([194.175.52.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA17658 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:09:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from MIDRAS.de (194.175.52.29) by [194.175.52.2] with ESMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:24:09 +0000 Message-ID: <35195657.B5A1678E@MIDRAS.de> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:09:25 +0000 From: Jochen Haeberle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vivek CC: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] socket: Invalid argument References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi Vivek, Vivek wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Jochen Haeberle wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I am trying to transfer my (rather) working netatalk installation from one > > linux box to another. So I tried transferring the sources over > > (netatlk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2) and compile those. This worked. But when running > > those binaries from the new machine, I get the following errors from atalkd: > > > > socket: Invalid argument > > socket: Invalid argument > > atalkd: can't get interfaces, exiting. > > Has the second box got the right stuff compiled in to its kernel > or modules? The atalk-stuff is compiled as module. But when I do lsmod, I do get nothing. This should not be the case either... Jochen From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 25 15:49:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA19890 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:49:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA19885 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:49:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA00731; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:49:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA00704 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:49:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from sound.music.mcgill.ca (sound.Music.McGill.CA [132.206.141.11]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA00691 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:49:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from music.mcgill.ca (poutine [132.206.141.86]) by sound.music.mcgill.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23548 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:48:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <351997B9.D7F9ECEC@music.mcgill.ca> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:48:09 -0800 From: Alain Terriault Reply-To: alaint@music.mcgill.ca Organization: McGill University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: [netatalk-admins] umask Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, What is the best way to setup the Macintosh users creation mask ? I will like to keep my default as is, just change the Mac users. Is there such a thing as a login script for afpd, the .Applevolume give you limited action ..Some kind of afpd shell will be nice. On another subject, anybody had any luck is setting a printing accounting with LPRng ro lpd ? many thanks, Alain Terriault McGill University From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 25 18:37:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA01508 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:37:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA01459 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:37:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA17425; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:37:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA17423 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:37:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA17419 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:37:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id AAA20026; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:37:11 +0100 Message-ID: <35199478.263CE53A@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:34:16 +0100 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SEBESTYEN Zoltan , Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Newbie questions References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi Zoltan, SEBESTYEN Zoltan wrote: > I've just installed FreeBSD2.2.2/netatalk-1.4.2b in replacement of an > NT4.0 as a Mac fileserver. Now it works fine, but I've got to set it up as > a spooler of a Crossfield imagesetter and an AppleLaserWriter. [...] AppleTalk objects register themselves on the network, so You can reference them by name and don't need their address. atalkd.conf configures the AppleTalk routing daemon, and has nothing more to do with printing. You don't really need a network range this wide for a zone; if You pick one network number (like range 123-123), that can accomodate ~250 nodes on the network, which should be sufficient in most cases. The Appletalk printing (unsing Your FreeBSD box) can be done like this: Macintosh -> papd -> lpd -> pap -> LaserWriter, where papd, lpd and pap are in the FreeBSD box. Please man papd, man pap, and man lpd if needed. If You really don't need authorization (passwords) on Your network, I would recommend using the Guest facility; this way, users wouldn't even have to enter a username to connect to Your server. Feel free to mail me for more info. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 25 19:41:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA04644 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:41:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA04639 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:41:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA00544 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:12:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA10339; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:12:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA10336 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:12:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA10315 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:11:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA14682; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:11:53 GMT Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:11:53 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Jochen Haeberle cc: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] socket: Invalid argument In-Reply-To: <35195657.B5A1678E@MIDRAS.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Jochen Haeberle wrote: > The atalk-stuff is compiled as module. But when I do lsmod, I do get nothing. > This should not be the case either... Well, have you tried insmod appletalk? If you have no kerneld support or kerneld is not running then you will need to do this. -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 25 19:42:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA04659 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:42:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA04649 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:41:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA01446 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:37:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA04729; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:37:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA04711 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:37:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA04699 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:37:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA14784; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:36:49 GMT Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:36:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Eddie Irvine cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk services appear in only one zone (unmangled text this time) In-Reply-To: <01bd57d4$fd43bc80$b11a1acb@gretchen> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Yes, afpd only registers itself in one zone. However you can multiple afpd processes and register each one on a different zone. This will keep the networking efficient. On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Eddie Irvine wrote: > Hi! > > Netatalk is running on a FreeBSD box with two ethernet interfaces. > One goes to a LAN in room 1 (zone "ROOM1"), the other interface > goes to a LAN in room 2 (zone "ROOM2"). > > There are no other LANs apart from "ROOM1" and "ROOM2". I do > have a genuine Mac IP-5 fileserver that I also plan to connect to both > zones with multi-homing, however. But it can't do routing, unlike > netatalk :) . At the moment only one interface is up, to ROOM1. > > I have managed to set up atalkd.conf so that it seeds the zones with the > names above, and routing between zones seems to work. Thus, a mac > in "ROOM2" can see a mac in "ROOM1". So far so good. > > The trouble is, the netatalk services (AppleShare and Print Spooling) only > seem to register in the first zone - "ROOM1". The chooser shows > nothing to choose in zone "ROOM2", even when I am on a mac in "ROOM2". > > 1 Is this actually a big deal? I can connect a computer in ROOM2 to > netatalk simply by selecting the zone "ROOM1" in the chooser. Will this > cause computers in "ROOM2" slow down the LAN for computers in "ROOM1" ? > > 2 I must be missing something here! The netatalk FAQ-Matic alludes to > this problem but gives no firm examples. They talk about a file called > "rc.atalk" . > Is this just the startup script called at boot time that Linux uses? (I use > FreeBSD, not Linux, and my startup script is just called "netatalk.sh" . > > 3 Or perhaps netatalk services will only register in ONE zone? Is this > so? > > Thanks in advance. Any working examples appreciated. > > Eddie. > > -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 25 19:42:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA04672 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:42:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA04660 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:42:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA02691 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:47:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA25840; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:47:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA25837 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:47:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA25819 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:47:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA14872; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:47:35 GMT Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:47:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: SEBESTYEN Zoltan cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Newbie questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, SEBESTYEN Zoltan wrote: > they communicate with the Macs and PC(not yet) via AppleTalk. So I must > make up somehow their 'address'. I'm a newbie to the Mac world so please > tell me how to find out their 'address' if that's what is required. AppleTalk addresses are allocated dynamicly. Therefore usually a device is identified by it's name, type, and the zone it is in. This is often expressed as name:type@zone > The next question is about the AppleVolumes files. What's the real > difference between the AppleVolumes.system, AppleVolumes.default and the > users' $HOME/AppleVolumes files? AppleVolumes.System gives settings that apply to all users. ~~/.AppleVolumes gives settings for one user only, additional to those in AppleVolumes.System. AppleVolumes.default gives settings that apply to all users who don't have ~~/.AppleVolumes. They are in addition to those in AppleVolumes.System. > I created an account on FBSD especially for the the Macs to get the > shared disk space of the PC. At first I didn't gave it password, because > in this local network noone had password, they don't want to bother with > it. But I couldn't log from the Macs(so they could have 'mounted' the > shared disks) in until I gave some password to the account. Why is it so? > It's FreeBSD who refused the logins or netatalk? Who don't you simply use guest login? -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 25 20:59:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA08029 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:59:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA08022 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:59:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA00182; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:59:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA00171 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:59:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from heorot.cks.com (heorot.cks.com [209.116.197.20]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA00155 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:59:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by heorot.cks.com id m0yI1vw-000AC6C (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:58:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19980325175819.09687@heorot> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:58:19 -0800 From: David Welton To: bsmith@h-e.com Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Can't stop CR/LF translation... References: <000014DD.sm@h-e.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-md5; boundary=DKU6Jbt7q3WqK7+M X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: <000014DD.sm@h-e.com>; from bsmith@h-e.com on Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 06:57:05PM -0800 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --DKU6Jbt7q3WqK7+M Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tue, Mar 24, 1998 at 06:57:05PM -0800, bsmith@h-e.com wrote: > There are two possible solutions, one would be to prevent the files > from being typed as "TEXT" to start with. This would depend on the > software being used to copy the files from the Windows machine to > the AppleShare server; that is where the file type is being defined > in this case. They are using PC Maclan, but I don't really care to delve into windoze problems.. The software seems broken in other ways as well. > The other solution is to completely disable netatalk's CR/LF > translation, which is simply a matter of re-compiling netatalk after > removing the "-DCRLF" option from etc/afpd/Makefile. Actually, I went one better (I hope it's seen that way at least!) and hacked a new command line option into afpd so that you can turn off CR/LF translation by starting it with '-e'. I did this by adding a variable in afp_options. I hope this was the right place to put it. Everything seems to work great now :-) Anyway, I have attached my diffs for review. -- David Welton http://www.efn.org/~davidw Debian GNU/Linux - www.debian.org --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="afpd-man-diffs.diff" --- netatalk-asun-2.0a18.2/man/man8/afpd.8 Sun Mar 31 10:35:39 1996 +++ debian7/netatalk-asun-2.0a18.2/man/man8/afpd.8 Wed Mar 25 12:46:30 1998 @@ -7,6 +7,9 @@ .B -d ] [ +.B -e +] +[ .B -f .I defaultvolumes ] @@ -96,6 +99,12 @@ .B \-d Specifies that the daemon not fork, and that a trace of all AFP commands be written to stdout. +.TP +.B \-e +Command line switch to turn on/off CR/LF translation. The default +behaviour remains the same, with this switch turning +.B off +CR/LF translation. .TP .BI \-f " defaultvolumes" Specifies that --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="afpd-diffs.diff" diff -u netatalk-asun-2.0a18.2/etc/afpd/Makefile debian7/netatalk-asun-2.0a18.2/etc/afpd/Makefile --- netatalk-asun-2.0a18.2/etc/afpd/Makefile Tue Feb 17 16:51:38 1998 +++ debian7/netatalk-asun-2.0a18.2/etc/afpd/Makefile Wed Mar 25 10:37:13 1998 @@ -14,7 +14,7 @@ INCPATH= -I../../include ${AFSINCPATH} ${KRBINCPATH} ${DESINCPATH} \ ${PAMINCPATH} CFLAGS= ${DEFS} ${AFSDEFS} ${KRBDEFS} ${DESDEFS} ${OPTOPTS} ${INCPATH} \ - ${PAMDEFS} -DAPPLCNAME -DCRLF # -DDOWNCASE + ${PAMDEFS} -DAPPLCNAME # -DCRLF # -DDOWNCASE LIBS = -latalk ${AFSLIBS} ${KRBLIBS} ${DESLIBS} ${ADDLIBS} ${AFPLIBS} \ ${TCPWRAPLIBS} ${PAMLIBS} LIBDIRS= -L../../libatalk ${AFSLIBDIRS} ${KRBLIBDIRS} \ diff -u netatalk-asun-2.0a18.2/etc/afpd/afp_options.c debian7/netatalk-asun-2.0a18.2/etc/afpd/afp_options.c --- netatalk-asun-2.0a18.2/etc/afpd/afp_options.c Tue Feb 17 16:51:38 1998 +++ debian7/netatalk-asun-2.0a18.2/etc/afpd/afp_options.c Wed Mar 25 16:38:25 1998 @@ -24,7 +24,7 @@ #define MIN(a, b) ((a) < (b) ? (a) : (b)) #endif -#define OPTIONS "dn:f:s:uc:g:ACKGP:pDS:TL:F:t" +#define OPTIONS "den:f:s:uc:g:ACKGP:pDS:TL:F:t" #define LENGTH 512 /* return an option. this uses an internal array, so it's necessary @@ -91,6 +91,7 @@ options->transports = AFPTRANS_ALL; options->authbits = AU_ALL; options->passwdfile = _NAME_AFPDPWFILE; + options->crlfbool = 1; } /* parse an afpd.conf line. i'm doing it this way because it's @@ -217,6 +218,9 @@ case 'd' : options->debug++; break; + case 'e' : + options->crlfbool = 0; + break; case 'n' : options->server = optarg; break; @@ -281,7 +285,7 @@ } if ( err || optind != ac ) { fprintf( stderr, - "Usage:\t%s [ -dGKCApDTt ] [ -n nbpname ] [ -f defvols ] \ + "Usage:\t%s [ -deGKCApDTt ] [ -n nbpname ] [ -f defvols ] \ [ -P pidfile ] [ -s sysvols ] \n", p ); fprintf( stderr, "\t[ -u ] [ -c maxconn ] [ -g guest ] \ diff -u netatalk-asun-2.0a18.2/etc/afpd/fork.c debian7/netatalk-asun-2.0a18.2/etc/afpd/fork.c --- netatalk-asun-2.0a18.2/etc/afpd/fork.c Tue Feb 17 16:51:38 1998 +++ debian7/netatalk-asun-2.0a18.2/etc/afpd/fork.c Wed Mar 25 16:49:37 1998 @@ -403,31 +403,37 @@ #undef LOCKBIT -#ifdef CRLF -static __inline__ int crlf( of ) - struct ofork *of; -{ - struct extmap *em; - +/* #ifdef CRLF */ +static __inline__ int crlf( of) + struct ofork *of; +{ + struct extmap *em; + + /* if we are doing translations, do all this stuff - davidw */ + if (default_options.crlfbool) { if ( ad_hfileno( &of->of_ad ) == -1 || - memcmp( ufinderi, ad_entry( &of->of_ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), - 8) == 0 ) { - if (( em = getextmap( of->of_name )) == NULL || - bcmp( "TEXT", em->em_type, sizeof( em->em_type )) == 0 ) { - return( 1 ); - } else { - return( 0 ); + memcmp( ufinderi, ad_entry( &of->of_ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), + 8) == 0 ) { + if (( em = getextmap( of->of_name )) == NULL || + bcmp( "TEXT", em->em_type, sizeof( em->em_type )) == 0 ) { + return( 1 ); + } else { + return( 0 ); } } else { if ( memcmp( ufinderi, - ad_entry( &of->of_ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), 4 ) == 0 ) { - return( 1 ); - } else { - return( 0 ); - } + ad_entry( &of->of_ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), 4 ) == 0 ) { + return( 1 ); + } else { + return( 0 ); + } } + } else { + /* if we are not doing translations, simply set xlate to 0 */ + return 0; + } } -#endif CRLF +/* #endif CRLF */ static __inline__ int read_file(struct ofork *ofork, int eid, int offset, @@ -462,19 +468,20 @@ } } -#ifdef CRLF + /* #ifdef CRLF */ /* * If this file is of type TEXT, then swap \012 to \015. */ + if (xlate) { - for ( p = rbuf, q = p + cc; p < q; p++ ) { - if ( *p == '\012' ) { - *p = '\015'; - } + for ( p = rbuf, q = p + cc; p < q; p++ ) { + if ( *p == '\012' ) { + *p = '\015'; } + } } -#endif CRLF - + /* #endif CRLF */ + *rbuflen = cc; if ( eof ) { return( AFPERR_EOF ); @@ -515,9 +522,11 @@ if ( ad_dfileno( &ofork->of_ad ) != -1 ) { eid = ADEID_DFORK; -#ifdef CRLF + /* #ifdef CRLF xlate = crlf(ofork); -#endif +#endif */ + xlate = crlf(ofork); + } else if (ad_hfileno( &ofork->of_ad ) != -1 ) { eid = ADEID_RFORK; } else { @@ -734,18 +743,19 @@ char *p, *q; int cc; -#ifdef CRLF + /* #ifdef CRLF */ /* * If this file is of type TEXT, swap \015 to \012. */ if (xlate) { - for ( p = rbuf, q = p + rbuflen; p < q; p++ ) { - if ( *p == '\015' ) { - *p = '\012'; - } + for ( p = rbuf, q = p + rbuflen; p < q; p++ ) { + if ( *p == '\015' ) { + *p = '\012'; + } } } -#endif CRLF + + /* #endif CRLF */ if (( cc = ad_write(&ofork->of_ad, eid, offset, endflag, rbuf, rbuflen)) < 0 ) { @@ -803,9 +813,11 @@ if ( ad_dfileno( &ofork->of_ad ) != -1 ) { eid = ADEID_DFORK; -#ifdef CRLF + /* #ifdef CRLF xlate = crlf(ofork); -#endif +#endif */ + xlate = crlf(ofork); + } else if (ad_hfileno(&ofork->of_ad) != -1) { eid = ADEID_RFORK; } else diff -u netatalk-asun-2.0a18.2/etc/afpd/globals.h debian7/netatalk-asun-2.0a18.2/etc/afpd/globals.h --- netatalk-asun-2.0a18.2/etc/afpd/globals.h Tue Feb 17 16:51:38 1998 +++ debian7/netatalk-asun-2.0a18.2/etc/afpd/globals.h Wed Mar 25 17:22:36 1998 @@ -29,6 +29,7 @@ char hostname[MAXHOSTNAMELEN + 1], *server, *address, *configfile; char *pidfile, *defaultvol, *systemvol; char *guest, *loginmesg, *passwdfile; + int crlfbool; /* davidw - global to toggle CRLF stuff */ }; typedef struct AFPObj { @@ -53,5 +54,7 @@ extern void afp_options_free __P((struct afp_options *, const struct afp_options *)); extern void setmessage __P((const char *)); + +struct afp_options default_options; #endif /* globals.h */ diff -u netatalk-asun-2.0a18.2/etc/afpd/main.c debian7/netatalk-asun-2.0a18.2/etc/afpd/main.c --- netatalk-asun-2.0a18.2/etc/afpd/main.c Tue Feb 17 16:51:38 1998 +++ debian7/netatalk-asun-2.0a18.2/etc/afpd/main.c Wed Mar 25 16:54:50 1998 @@ -40,7 +40,7 @@ unsigned char nologin = 0; -static struct afp_options default_options; + /* static struct afp_options default_options; */ static AFPConfig *configs; static server_child *server_children; static fd_set save_rfds; --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z-- --DKU6Jbt7q3WqK7+M Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a iQBVAwUBNRm2O1f1ruXoMyApAQHGvQIAq8Dns2ZKdEyK0Ekx7y4K0/2uCPDNEJhz BTQ4PifncF40CpOUtuVyYpRoct1QR7EGy/RL2koXruBfRlQAjsrH9Q== =0RZy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DKU6Jbt7q3WqK7+M-- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 25 22:13:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA09972 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:13:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA09960 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:12:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA18001; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:12:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA17998 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA17994 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:12:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id TAA12939; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:12:54 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <000014F5.sm@h-e.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Can't stop CR/LF translation... Date: Wed, 25 Mar 98 19:01:37 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: davidw@gate.cks.com (David Welton) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 1655 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:12 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Original message sent on Wed, Mar 25 5:58 PM by davidw@gate.cks.com (David Welton) : > Actually, I went one better (I hope it's seen that way at least!) and > hacked a new command line option into afpd so that you can turn off > CR/LF translation by starting it with '-e'. I did this by adding a > variable in afp_options. I hope this was the right place to put it. > > Everything seems to work great now :-) > > Anyway, I have attached my diffs for review. Looks solid to me, the most important thing would be to make sure you got all the "#ifdef CRLF"s out of there, and it looks like you did. If you're interested, I did something similar to the code, but my approach was to add an option to the AppleVolumes file so that translation can be selected volume-by-volume. This required a lot more changes, because afpd has to translate in the "copyfile" function where it never had to before, but I've been using it for several weeks with no problems. You would have to merge the changes manually because it's based on 1.4b2 (without asun's patches) plus it changes some of the same places you've already changed. But since you seem to be comfortable messing about in the code, if you want to take a look I'll be happy to e-mail it (it's too long to post to the group). Any other netatalk hackers out there are also welcome to it, just drop me a request! Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Mar 25 22:13:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA09988 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:13:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA09967 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:13:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA18021; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:13:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA18007 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:13:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA18003 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id TAA12946 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:12:59 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <000014F4.sm@h-e.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Unix command support for AppleDouble files Date: Wed, 25 Mar 98 18:39:29 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Cc: bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 1625 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Wed, 25 Mar 1998 19:12 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have a minor problem with some users who like to work in their Unix directories with things like "mv" and "cp", while also using those same directories through netatalk afpd. This is leading to "broken" files because they forget to also change the .AppleDouble header files when working from the Unix side. So, I'm thinking about writing a set of scripts to run in place of "mv", "cp", and "rm" that will automatically take care of this. I don't think it will be terribly difficult, but before re-inventing the wheel I thought I'd see if anyone out there has already done this and is willing to share. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help! Bob Smith Hammett & Edison bsmith@h-e.com From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 26 04:18:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA25819 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:18:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA25678 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:07:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA19534; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:07:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA19532 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:07:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from [194.175.52.2] ([194.175.52.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA19528 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 04:07:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from MIDRAS.de (194.175.52.29) by [194.175.52.2] with ESMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:19:16 +0000 Message-ID: <351A2822.7BAE0E1F@MIDRAS.de> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 10:04:21 +0000 From: Jochen Haeberle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problem netatalk with ftp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I am having a strange problem. I am using Linux 2.0.32 on a Pentium II HP Netserver, wu-ftpd and netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2. The server is running day and night accepting filetransfers mainly on ftp. Netatalk is running and working fine as well. Whenever netatalk is running, the netatalk volumes get unavailable in the chooser after some hours and the server does no longer accept connections through ftp. The netatalk deamons are still running as is inetd. If netatalk is not started at startup, the ftp-server keeps running and running. What could this be and how could I get rid of it? Any clues? Jochen From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 26 13:40:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA21203 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:40:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA21194 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:40:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA27113 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:00:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id HAA04793; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:00:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id HAA04791 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:00:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA04783 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:00:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA00255; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:00:08 GMT Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:00:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: bsmith@h-e.com cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Unix command support for AppleDouble files In-Reply-To: <000014F4.sm@h-e.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm not sure about rm, cp and mv replacements, but there are scripts which will check for .Appledouble files which no longer have a data fork associated with them because it has been delted or move elsewhere. These files can then be safely removed. On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 bsmith@h-e.com wrote: > I have a minor problem with some users who like to work in their Unix > directories with things like "mv" and "cp", while also using those same > directories through netatalk afpd. This is leading to "broken" files because > they forget to also change the .AppleDouble header files when working from the > Unix side. > > So, I'm thinking about writing a set of scripts to run in place of "mv", "cp", > and "rm" that will automatically take care of this. I don't think it will be > terribly difficult, but before re-inventing the wheel I thought I'd see if > anyone out there has already done this and is willing to share. -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 26 14:01:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA22183 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:01:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA22179 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:01:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA16887; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:01:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA16860 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:01:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from atlas.mwh.com (mail.mwh.com [204.160.202.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA16807 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:01:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mwh.com (mitchm.mwh.com [191.41.103.220]) by atlas.mwh.com (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-32375L1000S10000) with ESMTP id AAA28522 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:01:31 -0800 Message-ID: <351AA73A.1BAD2B7@mwh.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:06:34 -0800 From: "Mitch McNeel" Organization: Maintenance Warehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.6 install Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A57D0FB40BE94FD97E54C049" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A57D0FB40BE94FD97E54C049 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was not successful installing netatalk on a Solaris 2.6 sun box, but I was successful with the 2.5.* version. Is there anything in the works for a 2.6 version install? Also, is the any possible way to connect to my Sun box using a TCP/IP connection form the MAC client? Thanks Mitch --------------A57D0FB40BE94FD97E54C049 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Mitch Mc Neel Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Mitch Mc Neel n: Mc Neel;Mitch org: Maintenance Warehouse adr: 5505 Morehouse Dr.;;;San Diego;CA;92121-3790;USA email;internet: mitchm@mwh.com title: Systems Admin. Internet/Intranet tel;work: 619-552-6236 tel;fax: 619-552-6221 tel;home: 619-552-6210 x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------A57D0FB40BE94FD97E54C049-- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 26 14:15:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA22978 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:15:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA22964 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:14:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA04220; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:14:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA04136 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:14:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from library.ucsf.edu (apollo.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA03182 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:13:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (windy.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.85]) by library.ucsf.edu (8.8.7/8.7.5) with SMTP id LAA11812; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:10:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (han@localhost) by windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA21654; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:18:32 -0800 Message-Id: <199803261918.LAA21654@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> To: "Mitch McNeel" cc: netatalk-admins Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.6 install In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:06:34 PST." <351AA73A.1BAD2B7@mwh.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 11:18:32 -0800 From: Michael M Han Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Previously... >I was not successful installing netatalk on a Solaris 2.6 sun box, but I >was successful with the 2.5.* version. Is there anything in the works >for a 2.6 version install? I installed 1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 w/o incident on a Solaris 2.6 (Sparcstation2) box. I *did* have trouble installing the patched up kernel module from Umich, but that's a different story. >Also, is the any possible way to connect to my Sun box using a TCP/IP >connection form the MAC client? Once again, 1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 is very nice. Supports AFP2.2 TCP/IP transport for AppleShare. For more info about the 1.4b2+asun, start at the netatalk site ( http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk/ ) and look for it among the patches. Grab the whole package and read the readmes. Lots of important info in the readmes. _________ mike (han@library.ucsf.edu) I will not conduct my own fire drills - The collected wisdom of Bart Simpson From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 26 14:18:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA23293 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:18:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA23278; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:18:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA23275 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:18:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA23267 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:18:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803261918.OAA23267@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: evan.cordes@umich.edu To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] sorry to interrupt Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:18:26 -0500 X-Sender: epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm sorry to interrupt, here. We're experiencing problems with Majordomo as of late on our lists & we're still trying to track the problem down... I thank those of you who have brought it to our attention, and am requesting that those of you who are receiving erroneous messages from majordomo@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu, or anything you think related, please forward them directly to me: epcordes@umich.edu. Thanks, ev an From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 26 14:35:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA24643 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:35:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA24618 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:35:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA23907 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:22:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA01508; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:22:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA01484 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:22:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from johngalt.wwwebservers.com (johngalt.wwwebservers.com [208.21.240.14]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA01260 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:22:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from wwwebservers.graphicswiz.com (jon@wwwebservers.graphicswiz.com [207.239.128.197]) by johngalt.wwwebservers.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA04518 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:22:30 -0600 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:22:28 -0600 (CST) From: Jon Torrez X-Sender: jon@wwwebservers.graphicswiz.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Help Help :) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have a cdrom FULL of sounds / mp3s / pics / movies / avis just full of good stuff... :) Its an exported via smbfs to my linux box in /usr/local/shared/goods-cdrom /usr/local/shared is a samba exported dir and a netatalk exported dir I did this option with smbmount smbmount //kitten/cdrom /usr/local/shared/sounds-cdrom/ -U jon -u 65534 -f 777 -d 777 For those who are not familiar with smb mount this means mount //kitten (win95)(cdrom cdrom) /usr.... -User jon -uid (65534 in linux is nobody) -file permiossions 777 (-rwxrwxrwx) -directory-persmiossoins (drwxrwxrwx) but of course this is a cdrom the dirs get the right permiossions but the files don't they get this: -r-xr-xr-x 1 nobody users 16144 Dec 12 01:11 MAIL7.WAV this is right because you can't write to a cd ;) here is what syslog puts out.... Mar 26 13:03:16 wwwebservers afpd[9232]: setfilparams: ad_open MAIL7.WAV: Permission denied Mar 26 13:03:16 wwwebservers afpd[9232]: setfilparams: ad_open MEOW.WAV: Permission denied Mar 26 13:03:16 wwwebservers afpd[9232]: setfilparams: ad_open NOTHING.WAV: Permission denied Mar 26 13:03:17 wwwebservers afpd[9232]: setfilparams: ad_open OOHLALA.WAV: Permission denied Mar 26 13:03:17 wwwebservers afpd[9232]: setfilparams: ad_open RIBBIT.WAV: Permission denied Mar 26 13:03:17 wwwebservers afpd[9232]: setfilparams: ad_open SANCTU.WAV: Permission denied Mar 26 13:03:18 wwwebservers afpd[9232]: setfilparams: ad_open SCHINDLE.MP3: Permission denied Mar 26 13:03:19 wwwebservers afpd[9232]: setfilparams: ad_open SOXMAS.MOV: Permission denied Is there any more info that you guys need to help me out ?!?! :) Later... +-------- | Jon Torrez | Systems Administrator - WWWebServers, Inc. | http://www.wwwebservers.com / jon@wwwebservers.com +---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 26 16:45:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA19051 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:45:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA18968 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:45:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA12027; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:45:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA11946 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:45:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA11905 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:45:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-40.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.40]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA19295 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:45:52 -0800 Message-Id: <199803262245.OAA19295@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Doing Benchmarks (help for tips, tricks, suggestions) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:43:35 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Preamble: At the company I work with, we've been looking for a viable server solution for a while for our Macintosh support environment. We've run a crappy Mac (Performa 630) with personal file sharing for a while, with terrible stability. We've had a meeting the other day, examing alternate solutions, and decided on doing a 'shoot-out' between the various solutions. Currently selected are: Windows NT with Macintosh services, Windows NT using the DAVE 2.0 client, AppleShare IP 5.0x - and I want to throw a Netatalk system into this as well to show that Linux/Netatalk *IS* a viable alternative. One of the department's directors generally just smiles, and discards anytime I bring up UNIX/Linux based solutions... but mostly I want to be able to really put netatalk to the test, and possibly even get us all some real-world benchmarks as a result. Playing Field: Mac server will be a G3, 64 megs of RAM, with UltraSCSI card, and drives, and 10/100 baset-T ethernet card, AppelShare IP 5.0x. PC will be a compaq with 200MHz Pentium Pro, running Windows NT 4.0 server. For the Linux box, I have a 233 Cyrix motherboard, with 1 meg cache, 128 megs of RAM, a FAST SCSI card, an IDE drive, and a SCSI drive - running Red Hat 5.0. Crieria - all systems need to be able to serve over IP. The tests: We will be using several different files - large, single files (300 megs or more), as well as large folders, with tons of small files (around 300 megabytes). We will be doing transfer tests from 5 different Macintosh workstations simultaneously, during peak times, on a loaded network (12 noon, and 9 AM), as well as on a dedicated loop with no other network traffic - so we get best case, and worst case. So, I'm asking, since I've read about various problems (notably the trash-can issue), if any of you can contribute special hints, tips, tricks, configuration information (even concerning motherboards and hardware, as I'm willing to out on a limb here), but this is THE opportunity to demonstrate what this platform, and netatalk can do. Thanks for all your help. Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 26 17:03:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA24046 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:03:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA23716 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:02:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA25345; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:02:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA25334 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:02:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from atlas.mwh.com (mail.mwh.com [204.160.202.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA25301 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:02:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mwh.com (mitchm.mwh.com [191.41.103.220]) by atlas.mwh.com (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-32375L1000S10000) with ESMTP id AAA21251; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:02:37 -0800 Message-ID: <351AD1AD.6AFDF6A@mwh.com> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 14:07:41 -0800 From: "Mitch McNeel" Organization: Maintenance Warehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael M Han CC: netatalk-admins Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.6 install References: <199803261918.LAA21654@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------4AC7C0D00EE68551D8D6DDC8" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4AC7C0D00EE68551D8D6DDC8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Attached you will find a screen print copy of my efforts to install netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 on my Solaris 2.6 Sun (Sparcstation 4) box. I'm still encountering errors with my install. Is there anything you can see from the attached file, that you think I might be doing wrong? and thanks for pointing me in the right direction! I've notice that there is a few changes to the Makefile from the Umich ver 1.4b2. to include DES, tcp wrapper and PAM support. Do you know where I can find all the library and include files for those above?? Thanks for the help Mitch Michael M Han wrote: > Previously... > >I was not successful installing netatalk on a Solaris 2.6 sun box, but I > >was successful with the 2.5.* version. Is there anything in the works > >for a 2.6 version install? > > I installed 1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 w/o incident on a Solaris 2.6 > (Sparcstation2) box. I *did* have trouble installing the patched up > kernel module from Umich, but that's a different story. > > >Also, is the any possible way to connect to my Sun box using a TCP/IP > >connection form the MAC client? > > Once again, 1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 is very nice. Supports AFP2.2 TCP/IP > transport for AppleShare. > > For more info about the 1.4b2+asun, start at the netatalk site > ( http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk/ ) and look for it among the > patches. Grab the whole package and read the readmes. Lots of > important info in the readmes. > _________ > mike (han@library.ucsf.edu) > I will not conduct my own fire drills > - The collected wisdom of Bart Simpson --------------4AC7C0D00EE68551D8D6DDC8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="netainstallerror.log" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="netainstallerror.log" # Root of installation. Subdirectories will be ${DESTDIR}/etc, # ${DESTDIR}/bin, and ${DESTDIR}/lib. # Root of installation. Subdirectories will be ${DESTDIR}/etc, # ${DESTDIR}/bin, and ${DESTDIR}/lib. # Root of installation. Subdirectories will be ${DESTDIR}/etc, # ${DESTDIR}/bin, and ${DESTDIR}/lib. DESTDIR=/opt/netatalk-1.4b2+ # for system-level binaries SBINDIR=$(DESTDIR)/etc # for user-level binaries BINDIR=$(DESTDIR)/bin # for program libraries (*.a) LIBDIR=$(DESTDIR)/lib # for machine-independent resources (pagecount.ps, etc.) RESDIR=$(DESTDIR)/etc # for configuration files (AppleVolumes.system, etc.) ETCDIR=$(DESTDIR)/etc # for include files INCDIR=$(DESTDIR)/include # Root of man pages. Subdirectories will be # ${MANDIR}/man1, ${MANDIR}/man4, and ${MANDIR}/man8. MANDIR=$(DESTDIR)/man #SBINDIR=/usr/sbin #BINDIR=/usr/bin #LIBDIR=/usr/lib #RESDIR=/usr/lib/atalk #ETCDIR=/etc #INCDIR=/usr/include #MANDIR=/usr/man # Location of the DES library and include files. Comment this out if you # don't want Randnum Exchange and 2-Way Randnum Exchange as allowable UAMs # for afpd. We expect libdes.a in $DESDIR/lib and des.h in $DESDIR/include. DESDIR=/usr/local # Location of the tcp wrapper library and include files. Comment this out # if you don't want tcp wrapper support. having tcp wrapper support is # highly recommended. TCPWRAPDIR=/usr # Location of PAM support library and include files. Comment this out # if you don't want to enable PAM support #PAMDIR=/usr # Location of the AFS and Kerberos libraries and include files. Uncomment # and edit these if you want to include AFS or Kerberos support in afpd # or Kerberos support in papd. #AFSDIR=/usr/local/afs #KRBDIR=/usr/local/kerberos ########################################################################## all install depend clean tags kernel kinstall kpatch: FRC @case `uname -rs` in \ "Makefile" 95 lines, 2770 characters SUPERUSER@venus:/opt/tmp/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2> make Making all for solaris... gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c aarp.c gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c ddp.c gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c ddptp_rdq.c gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c ddptp_utls.c In file included from ddptp_utls.c:39: ../netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c dlpi.c gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c tpi.c gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c utils.c ld -r -o ddp aarp.o ddp.o ddptp_rdq.o ddptp_utls.o dlpi.o tpi.o utils.o cd ../../libatalk; make CC="gcc" \ ADDLIBS="-lsocket -lnsl" DEFS="-I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS" OPTOPTS="-O" \ SBINDIR="/opt/netatalk-1.4b2+/etc" BINDIR="/opt/netatalk-1.4b2+/bin" RESDIR="/opt/netatalk-1.4b2+/etc" \ ETCDIR="/opt/netatalk-1.4b2+/etc" LIBDIR="/opt/netatalk-1.4b2+/lib" INCDIR="/opt/netatalk-1.4b2+/include" \ DESTDIR="/opt/netatalk-1.4b2+" AFSDIR="" KRBDIR="" all cd asp; make CC="gcc" DEFS="-I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS" \ OPTOPTS="-O" TCPWRAPDIR="/usr" gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c asp_attn.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/asp.h:29, from asp_attn.c:13: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o asp_attn.o- asp_attn.o mv asp_attn.o- profiled/asp_attn.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c asp_attn.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/asp.h:29, from asp_attn.c:13: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o asp_attn.o- asp_attn.o mv asp_attn.o- asp_attn.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c asp_close.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/asp.h:29, from asp_close.c:30: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o asp_close.o- asp_close.o mv asp_close.o- profiled/asp_close.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c asp_close.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/asp.h:29, from asp_close.c:30: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o asp_close.o- asp_close.o mv asp_close.o- asp_close.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c asp_cmdreply.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/asp.h:29, from asp_cmdreply.c:28: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o asp_cmdreply.o- asp_cmdreply.o mv asp_cmdreply.o- profiled/asp_cmdreply.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c asp_cmdreply.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/asp.h:29, from asp_cmdreply.c:28: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o asp_cmdreply.o- asp_cmdreply.o mv asp_cmdreply.o- asp_cmdreply.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c asp_getreq.c In file included from asp_getreq.c:29: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o asp_getreq.o- asp_getreq.o mv asp_getreq.o- profiled/asp_getreq.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c asp_getreq.c In file included from asp_getreq.c:29: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o asp_getreq.o- asp_getreq.o mv asp_getreq.o- asp_getreq.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c asp_getsess.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/asp.h:29, from asp_getsess.c:20: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here asp_getsess.c: In function `asp_getsession': asp_getsess.c:118: warning: passing arg 2 of `setitimer' discards `const' from pointer target type ld -r -o asp_getsess.o- asp_getsess.o mv asp_getsess.o- profiled/asp_getsess.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c asp_getsess.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/asp.h:29, from asp_getsess.c:20: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here asp_getsess.c: In function `asp_getsession': asp_getsess.c:118: warning: passing arg 2 of `setitimer' discards `const' from pointer target type ld -r -o asp_getsess.o- asp_getsess.o mv asp_getsess.o- asp_getsess.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c asp_init.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/asp.h:29, from asp_init.c:31: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o asp_init.o- asp_init.o mv asp_init.o- profiled/asp_init.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c asp_init.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/asp.h:29, from asp_init.c:31: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o asp_init.o- asp_init.o mv asp_init.o- asp_init.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c asp_write.c In file included from asp_write.c:26: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o asp_write.o- asp_write.o mv asp_write.o- profiled/asp_write.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c asp_write.c In file included from asp_write.c:26: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o asp_write.o- asp_write.o mv asp_write.o- asp_write.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c asp_shutdown.c In file included from asp_shutdown.c:9: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o asp_shutdown.o- asp_shutdown.o mv asp_shutdown.o- profiled/asp_shutdown.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c asp_shutdown.c In file included from asp_shutdown.c:9: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o asp_shutdown.o- asp_shutdown.o mv asp_shutdown.o- asp_shutdown.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c asp_tickle.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/asp.h:29, from asp_tickle.c:3: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o asp_tickle.o- asp_tickle.o mv asp_tickle.o- profiled/asp_tickle.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c asp_tickle.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/asp.h:29, from asp_tickle.c:3: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o asp_tickle.o- asp_tickle.o mv asp_tickle.o- asp_tickle.o building profiled asplib building normal asplib cd atp; make CC="gcc" DEFS="-I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS" \ OPTOPTS="-O" TCPWRAPDIR="/usr" gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c atp_bprint.c ld -r -o atp_bprint.o- atp_bprint.o mv atp_bprint.o- profiled/atp_bprint.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c atp_bprint.c ld -r -o atp_bprint.o- atp_bprint.o mv atp_bprint.o- atp_bprint.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c atp_bufs.c ld -r -o atp_bufs.o- atp_bufs.o mv atp_bufs.o- profiled/atp_bufs.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c atp_bufs.c ld -r -o atp_bufs.o- atp_bufs.o mv atp_bufs.o- atp_bufs.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c atp_close.c ld -r -o atp_close.o- atp_close.o mv atp_close.o- profiled/atp_close.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c atp_close.c ld -r -o atp_close.o- atp_close.o mv atp_close.o- atp_close.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c atp_open.c ld -r -o atp_open.o- atp_open.o mv atp_open.o- profiled/atp_open.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c atp_open.c ld -r -o atp_open.o- atp_open.o mv atp_open.o- atp_open.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c atp_packet.c ld -r -o atp_packet.o- atp_packet.o mv atp_packet.o- profiled/atp_packet.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c atp_packet.c ld -r -o atp_packet.o- atp_packet.o mv atp_packet.o- atp_packet.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c atp_rreq.c ld -r -o atp_rreq.o- atp_rreq.o mv atp_rreq.o- profiled/atp_rreq.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c atp_rreq.c ld -r -o atp_rreq.o- atp_rreq.o mv atp_rreq.o- atp_rreq.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c atp_rresp.c ld -r -o atp_rresp.o- atp_rresp.o mv atp_rresp.o- profiled/atp_rresp.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c atp_rresp.c ld -r -o atp_rresp.o- atp_rresp.o mv atp_rresp.o- atp_rresp.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c atp_rsel.c In file included from atp_rsel.c:31: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o atp_rsel.o- atp_rsel.o mv atp_rsel.o- profiled/atp_rsel.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c atp_rsel.c In file included from atp_rsel.c:31: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o atp_rsel.o- atp_rsel.o mv atp_rsel.o- atp_rsel.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c atp_sreq.c ld -r -o atp_sreq.o- atp_sreq.o mv atp_sreq.o- profiled/atp_sreq.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c atp_sreq.c ld -r -o atp_sreq.o- atp_sreq.o mv atp_sreq.o- atp_sreq.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c atp_sresp.c ld -r -o atp_sresp.o- atp_sresp.o mv atp_sresp.o- profiled/atp_sresp.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c atp_sresp.c ld -r -o atp_sresp.o- atp_sresp.o mv atp_sresp.o- atp_sresp.o building profiled atplib building normal atplib cd nbp; make CC="gcc" DEFS="-I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS" \ OPTOPTS="-O" TCPWRAPDIR="/usr" gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c nbp_util.c In file included from nbp_util.c:29: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o nbp_util.o- nbp_util.o mv nbp_util.o- profiled/nbp_util.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c nbp_util.c In file included from nbp_util.c:29: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o nbp_util.o- nbp_util.o mv nbp_util.o- nbp_util.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c nbp_lkup.c In file included from nbp_lkup.c:30: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o nbp_lkup.o- nbp_lkup.o mv nbp_lkup.o- profiled/nbp_lkup.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c nbp_lkup.c In file included from nbp_lkup.c:30: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o nbp_lkup.o- nbp_lkup.o mv nbp_lkup.o- nbp_lkup.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c nbp_rgstr.c In file included from nbp_rgstr.c:14: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o nbp_rgstr.o- nbp_rgstr.o mv nbp_rgstr.o- profiled/nbp_rgstr.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c nbp_rgstr.c In file included from nbp_rgstr.c:14: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o nbp_rgstr.o- nbp_rgstr.o mv nbp_rgstr.o- nbp_rgstr.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c nbp_unrgstr.c In file included from nbp_unrgstr.c:31: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o nbp_unrgstr.o- nbp_unrgstr.o mv nbp_unrgstr.o- profiled/nbp_unrgstr.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c nbp_unrgstr.c In file included from nbp_unrgstr.c:31: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o nbp_unrgstr.o- nbp_unrgstr.o mv nbp_unrgstr.o- nbp_unrgstr.o building profiled nbplib building normal nbplib cd adouble; make CC="gcc" DEFS="-I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS" \ OPTOPTS="-O" TCPWRAPDIR="/usr" gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c ad_open.c In file included from ad_open.c:28: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o ad_open.o- ad_open.o mv ad_open.o- profiled/ad_open.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c ad_open.c In file included from ad_open.c:28: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o ad_open.o- ad_open.o mv ad_open.o- ad_open.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c ad_flush.c In file included from ad_flush.c:25: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o ad_flush.o- ad_flush.o mv ad_flush.o- profiled/ad_flush.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c ad_flush.c In file included from ad_flush.c:25: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o ad_flush.o- ad_flush.o mv ad_flush.o- ad_flush.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c ad_read.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/adouble.h:31, from ad_read.c:26: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o ad_read.o- ad_read.o mv ad_read.o- profiled/ad_read.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c ad_read.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/adouble.h:31, from ad_read.c:26: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o ad_read.o- ad_read.o mv ad_read.o- ad_read.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c ad_write.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/adouble.h:31, from ad_write.c:12: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o ad_write.o- ad_write.o mv ad_write.o- profiled/ad_write.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c ad_write.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/adouble.h:31, from ad_write.c:12: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o ad_write.o- ad_write.o mv ad_write.o- ad_write.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c ad_size.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/adouble.h:31, from ad_size.c:11: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o ad_size.o- ad_size.o mv ad_size.o- profiled/ad_size.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c ad_size.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/adouble.h:31, from ad_size.c:11: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o ad_size.o- ad_size.o mv ad_size.o- ad_size.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c ad_mmap.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/adouble.h:31, from ad_mmap.c:14: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o ad_mmap.o- ad_mmap.o mv ad_mmap.o- profiled/ad_mmap.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c ad_mmap.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/adouble.h:31, from ad_mmap.c:14: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o ad_mmap.o- ad_mmap.o mv ad_mmap.o- ad_mmap.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c ad_lock.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/adouble.h:31, from ad_lock.c:6: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o ad_lock.o- ad_lock.o mv ad_lock.o- profiled/ad_lock.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -c ad_lock.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/adouble.h:31, from ad_lock.c:6: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o ad_lock.o- ad_lock.o mv ad_lock.o- ad_lock.o building profiled adoublelib building normal adoublelib cd dsi; make CC="gcc" DEFS="-I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS" \ OPTOPTS="-O" TCPWRAPDIR="/usr" if [ x"/usr" != x ]; then \ TCPWRAPDEFS="-DTCPWRAP"; \ if [ "/usr" != "/usr" ]; then \ TCPWRAPINCPATH="-I/usr/include"; \ fi; \ fi; \ make CC="gcc" DEFS="-I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS" \ OPTOPTS="-O" \ TCPWRAPINCPATH="${TCPWRAPINCPATH}" TCPWRAPDEFS="${TCPWRAPDEFS}" \ dsilib gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -DTCPWRAP -c dsi_attn.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/afp.h:28, from ../../include/atalk/dsi.h:17, from dsi_attn.c:11: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o dsi_attn.o- dsi_attn.o mv dsi_attn.o- profiled/dsi_attn.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -DTCPWRAP -c dsi_attn.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/afp.h:28, from ../../include/atalk/dsi.h:17, from dsi_attn.c:11: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o dsi_attn.o- dsi_attn.o mv dsi_attn.o- dsi_attn.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -DTCPWRAP -c dsi_close.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/afp.h:28, from ../../include/atalk/dsi.h:17, from dsi_close.c:8: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o dsi_close.o- dsi_close.o mv dsi_close.o- profiled/dsi_close.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -DTCPWRAP -c dsi_close.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/afp.h:28, from ../../include/atalk/dsi.h:17, from dsi_close.c:8: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o dsi_close.o- dsi_close.o mv dsi_close.o- dsi_close.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -DTCPWRAP -c dsi_cmdreply.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/afp.h:28, from ../../include/atalk/dsi.h:17, from dsi_cmdreply.c:7: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o dsi_cmdreply.o- dsi_cmdreply.o mv dsi_cmdreply.o- profiled/dsi_cmdreply.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -DTCPWRAP -c dsi_cmdreply.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/afp.h:28, from ../../include/atalk/dsi.h:17, from dsi_cmdreply.c:7: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o dsi_cmdreply.o- dsi_cmdreply.o mv dsi_cmdreply.o- dsi_cmdreply.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -DTCPWRAP -c dsi_getsess.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/afp.h:28, from ../../include/atalk/dsi.h:17, from dsi_getsess.c:14: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o dsi_getsess.o- dsi_getsess.o mv dsi_getsess.o- profiled/dsi_getsess.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -DTCPWRAP -c dsi_getsess.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/afp.h:28, from ../../include/atalk/dsi.h:17, from dsi_getsess.c:14: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o dsi_getsess.o- dsi_getsess.o mv dsi_getsess.o- dsi_getsess.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -DTCPWRAP -c dsi_getstat.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/afp.h:28, from ../../include/atalk/dsi.h:17, from dsi_getstat.c:9: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o dsi_getstat.o- dsi_getstat.o mv dsi_getstat.o- profiled/dsi_getstat.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -DTCPWRAP -c dsi_getstat.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/afp.h:28, from ../../include/atalk/dsi.h:17, from dsi_getstat.c:9: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o dsi_getstat.o- dsi_getstat.o mv dsi_getstat.o- dsi_getstat.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -DTCPWRAP -c dsi_init.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/afp.h:28, from ../../include/atalk/dsi.h:17, from dsi_init.c:9: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o dsi_init.o- dsi_init.o mv dsi_init.o- profiled/dsi_init.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -DTCPWRAP -c dsi_init.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/afp.h:28, from ../../include/atalk/dsi.h:17, from dsi_init.c:9: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o dsi_init.o- dsi_init.o mv dsi_init.o- dsi_init.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -DTCPWRAP -c dsi_opensess.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/afp.h:28, from ../../include/atalk/dsi.h:17, from dsi_opensess.c:10: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o dsi_opensess.o- dsi_opensess.o mv dsi_opensess.o- profiled/dsi_opensess.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -DTCPWRAP -c dsi_opensess.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/afp.h:28, from ../../include/atalk/dsi.h:17, from dsi_opensess.c:10: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o dsi_opensess.o- dsi_opensess.o mv dsi_opensess.o- dsi_opensess.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -DTCPWRAP -c dsi_read.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/afp.h:28, from ../../include/atalk/dsi.h:17, from dsi_read.c:12: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o dsi_read.o- dsi_read.o mv dsi_read.o- profiled/dsi_read.o gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -DTCPWRAP -c dsi_read.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/afp.h:28, from ../../include/atalk/dsi.h:17, from dsi_read.c:12: ../../include/netatalk/endian.h:51: warning: redefinition of `int32_t' /opt/GCC2723/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.6/2.7.2.3/include/sys/int_types.h:69: warning: `int32_t' previously declared here ld -r -o dsi_read.o- dsi_read.o mv dsi_read.o- dsi_read.o gcc -p -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -DTCPWRAP -c dsi_tcp.c dsi_tcp.c:27: tcpd.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dsi_tcp.o' Current working directory /opt/tmp/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/libatalk/dsi *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all' Current working directory /opt/tmp/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/libatalk/dsi *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dsi' Current working directory /opt/tmp/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/libatalk *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `../../libatalk' Current working directory /opt/tmp/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/sys/solaris *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all' SUPERUSER@venus:/opt/tmp/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2> --------------4AC7C0D00EE68551D8D6DDC8 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Mitch Mc Neel Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Mitch Mc Neel n: Mc Neel;Mitch org: Maintenance Warehouse adr: 5505 Morehouse Dr.;;;San Diego;CA;92121-3790;USA email;internet: mitchm@mwh.com title: Systems Admin. Internet/Intranet tel;work: 619-552-6236 tel;fax: 619-552-6221 tel;home: 619-552-6210 x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------4AC7C0D00EE68551D8D6DDC8-- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 26 19:27:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA07950 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:27:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA07776 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:26:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA03671; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 19:26:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA04458 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:44:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA03718 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:42:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-171.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.171]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA12203 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:52:50 -0800 Message-Id: <199803261752.JAA12203@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] We're doing benchmarks (tips, tricks, help, info) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:50:35 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Preamble: At the company I work with, we've been looking for a viable server solution for a while for our Macintosh support environment. We've run a crappy Mac (Performa 630) with personal file sharing for a while, with terrible stability. We've had a meeting the other day, examing alternate solutions, and decided on doing a 'shoot-out' between the various solutions. Currently selected are: Windows NT with Macintosh services, Windows NT using the DAVE 2.0 client, AppleShare IP 5.0x - and I want to throw a Netatalk system into this as well to show that Linux/Netatalk *IS* a viable alternative. One of the department's directors generally just smiles, and discards anytime I bring up UNIX/Linux based solutions... but mostly I want to be able to really put netatalk to the test, and possibly even get us all some real-world benchmarks as a result. Playing Field: Mac server will be a G3, 64 megs of RAM, with UltraSCSI card, and drives, and 10/100 baset-T ethernet card, AppelShare IP 5.0x. PC will be a compaq with 200MHz Pentium Pro, running Windows NT 4.0 server. For the Linux box, I have a 233 Cyrix motherboard, with 1 meg cache, 128 megs of RAM, a FAST SCSI card, an IDE drive, and a SCSI drive - running Red Hat 5.0. Crieria - all systems need to be able to serve over IP. The tests: We will be using several different files - large, single files (300 megs or more), as well as large folders, with tons of small files (around 300 megabytes). We will be doing transfer tests from 5 different Macintosh workstations simultaneously, during peak times, on a loaded network (12 noon, and 9 AM), as well as on a dedicated loop with no other network traffic - so we get best case, and worst case. So, I'm asking, since I've read about various problems (notably the trash-can issue), if any of you can contribute special hints, tips, tricks, configuration information (even concerning motherboards and hardware, as I'm willing to out on a limb here), but this is THE opportunity to demonstrate what this platform, and netatalk can do. Thanks for all your help. Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 26 20:54:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA17025 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:54:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.144.15]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA17021 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:54:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA12943 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:31:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA17184; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:31:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA17181 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:31:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA17175 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:31:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id RAA17148; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:31:48 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <00001502.sm@h-e.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Help Help :) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 98 17:28:25 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: jon@wwwebservers.com (Jon Torrez) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 2142 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 17:31 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Original message sent on Thu, Mar 26 5:22 AM by jon@wwwebservers.com (Jon Torrez) : > -r-xr-xr-x 1 nobody users 16144 Dec 12 01:11 MAIL7.WAV > > this is right because you can't write to a cd ;) > here is what syslog puts out.... > > Mar 26 13:03:16 wwwebservers afpd[9232]: setfilparams: ad_open MAIL7.WAV: > Permission denied Assuming you aren't getting any actual error messages from the Macs involved, just ignore the stuff in the syslog. I've noticed that the Mac client has a habit of trying to set file parameters even on read-only files, this really isn't netatalk's problem. As far as I've been able to tell it has no consequences other than the "noise" in the syslog, and afpd is really chatty there anyway (60% of my syslog comes from afpd). Hope this helps! Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 26 22:01:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA20438 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:01:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA20419 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:01:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA11990 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:11:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA12052; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:11:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA12046 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:11:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA12027 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:11:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA04490; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 01:11:12 GMT Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 01:11:12 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Harry Zink cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] We're doing benchmarks (tips, tricks, help, info) In-Reply-To: <199803261752.JAA12203@nucleus.fizbin.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I think you will find the results as follows: NT - crap and slow linux/netatalk - fast for copying large files but poor for lots of small files and especially for browsing folders. G3/ASIP - slower than netatalk for large copies but faster for browsing folders. The reason for this being that ASIP handles all the resource fork and browsing stuff natively, whereas linux has to perform a large number of system calls to achieve the same. Linux however is much more efficient at networking in general. Bear in mind that the G3 is way faster than either of the x86 machines you have there, at least in terms of processor speed... On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Harry Zink wrote: > Preamble: > At the company I work with, we've been looking for a viable server > solution for a while for our Macintosh support environment. We've run a > crappy Mac (Performa 630) with personal file sharing for a while, with > terrible stability. > > We've had a meeting the other day, examing alternate solutions, and > decided on doing a 'shoot-out' between the various solutions. Currently > selected are: Windows NT with Macintosh services, Windows NT using the > DAVE 2.0 client, AppleShare IP 5.0x - and I want to throw a Netatalk > system into this as well to show that Linux/Netatalk *IS* a viable > alternative. One of the department's directors generally just smiles, and > discards anytime I bring up UNIX/Linux based solutions... but mostly I > want to be able to really put netatalk to the test, and possibly even get > us all some real-world benchmarks as a result. > > > Playing Field: > Mac server will be a G3, 64 megs of RAM, with UltraSCSI card, and drives, > and 10/100 baset-T ethernet card, AppelShare IP 5.0x. > > PC will be a compaq with 200MHz Pentium Pro, running Windows NT 4.0 > server. > > For the Linux box, I have a 233 Cyrix motherboard, with 1 meg cache, 128 > megs of RAM, a FAST SCSI card, an IDE drive, and a SCSI drive - running > Red Hat 5.0. > > Crieria - all systems need to be able to serve over IP. > > The tests: > We will be using several different files - large, single files (300 megs > or more), as well as large folders, with tons of small files (around 300 > megabytes). > > We will be doing transfer tests from 5 different Macintosh workstations > simultaneously, during peak times, on a loaded network (12 noon, and 9 > AM), as well as on a dedicated loop with no other network traffic - so we > get best case, and worst case. > > > So, I'm asking, since I've read about various problems (notably the > trash-can issue), if any of you can contribute special hints, tips, > tricks, configuration information (even concerning motherboards and > hardware, as I'm willing to out on a limb here), but this is THE > opportunity to demonstrate what this platform, and netatalk can do. > > Thanks for all your help. > > Harry > -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 26 23:13:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id XAA22966 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA22954 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:12:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id XAA03782; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:12:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id XAA03780 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:12:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA03775 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:12:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id UAA19592 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:12:48 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <00001506.sm@h-e.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Something weird with folders Date: Thu, 26 Mar 98 19:58:21 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Cc: bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 2710 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:12 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Just when I thought netatalk was finally working perfectly... this happened to a whole bunch of people all at more or less the same time: "You can't create a new folder in (volume name) because it can't be found" This happened when the users tried to create a new folder with command-N in the root of a shared afpd volume. Creating a folder somewhere else, even "deeper" in the same volume, and dragging it to the volume root worked fine. Nobody had any trouble creating files in the volume, or trouble doing anything else other than creating a new folder in the root. It wouldn't go away until the volume was un-mounted and re-mounted. Any ideas??? Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Mar 26 23:13:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id XAA22996 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:13:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA22992 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:13:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id XAA03916; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:13:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id XAA03905 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:13:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA03893 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:13:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id UAA19606 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:13:15 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <00001504.sm@h-e.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Work-around for the shared Trash problem Date: Thu, 26 Mar 98 19:21:23 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Cc: bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 2358 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 20:12 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu As I promised a while back (and prompted by Harry's post about his "shoot-out" of Linux/netatalk vs. NT vs. etc.), here is the work-around I have been using to allow the Trash to be shared on an afpd volume. This isn't going to work for everyone, it's only manageable if you have a relatively small number of potential Trash users on the volume. Also, the "real" problem that prevents the client from creating Trash folders on its own is still lurking somewhere, the work-around really shouldn't be necessary, but for now it does the trick. First, apply the patch to afpd that is attached to this message and re-compile. Two versions of the patch file are attached, one for base 1.4b2 and one for 1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2, be sure to get the correct one. This fixes what might be a bug in afpd, or it might just be an otherwise non-existent problem that is being created by doing funky things with the Trash folders (see a more detailed explanation below, if you're curious). Next, from the Unix side of things, create a set of "Trash Can #N" directories starting at #2 (i.e. "Trash Can #2", "Trash Can #3", etc.) inside the "Network Trash Folder" in the afpd volume root. Create one folder for each user who needs to use the Trash on the volume. This is why this only works for a few users; I have 12 users, and it works fine for that number, but if you had hundreds of these things to create I'm not sure it would fly. Each of these directories must be owned by one of the specific users needing the Trash, and must have mode 700. If any one of the "Trash Can #N" folders is group or world read or read/write, the whole thing won't work, so be sure to get the owners and modes right. Finally, "chmod a-w" the "Network Trash Folder" itself, so the "Trash Can #N" directories can't be removed by afpd. Now shared Trash should work! Everyone who mounts the volume with a user identity matching one of the "Trash Can #N" directories will be able to use the Trash, and all those users can put things in the Trash at the same time. For any user who doesn't have a "Trash Can #N" owned by them, they will simply get the "can't be left in Trash, delete immediately?" bit. If you're interested, here is further explanation of the afpd patch. The patch fixes the afp_moveandrename function to keep it from failing on a move or rename if an ".AppleDouble" directory doesn't already exist in the destination directory (the patch causes it to create the directory when it isn't there). The problem occurs because the Mac client attempts to completely delete it's "Trash Can #N" when the volume is un-mounted. Although the directory itself stays put because "Network Trash Folder" is write-protected, everything inside the directory goes away, including the ".AppleDouble" directory. Later when the volume is re-mounted, files are put in the Trash by afp_moveandrename calls, and since the ".AppleDouble" directory isn't there, the moves fail; actually, the files get "broken" - the data files move, but the header/resource files stay where they were. The chances of this happening outside these pre-created Trash folders is probably next to nil unless you deliberately tried to cause it, so whether this would really be classified as a bug or not is open to debate. But if you're going to try this work-around for the Trash you have to apply the patch. I've been running with this setup for about two weeks, with a dozen people making moderate to heavy use of several shared volumes, and it continues to function just fine. But I only have a single system to test this on and I have no idea what problems might crop up in other environments, so I still have to say "use at your own risk"! Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com P.S. - sorry this isn't MIME; got to get a new mail system someday. begin 644 afpd1.4b2-movefix.diff M*BHJ(&5T8R]A9G!D+V9I;&4N8RT)4V%T($UAPH@("`@("!S M=')U8W0@861O=6)L90EA9#L*("`@("`@PH@("`@("!S M=')U8W0@861O=6)L90EA9#L*("`@("`@2@@861S2!B M92!D=64@=&\@9&5S=&EN871I;VX@040@9&ER96-T;W)Y(&UIPHA(`D)("!BPHA(`D@("`@8V%S92!%3D]% M3E0@.@HA(`D@("`@("!R971UPH@("`@("!S M=')U8W0@861O=6)L90EA9#L*("`@("`@PH@("`@ M("!S=')U8W0@861O=6)L90EA9#L*("`@("`@2@@861S2!B92!D=64@=&\@9&5S=&EN871I;VX@040@9&ER96-T;W)Y(&UIPHA(`D)("!BPHA(`D@("`@8V%S M92!%3D]%3E0@.@HA(`D@("`@("!R971U Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id XAA25001 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:38:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA24996 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:38:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id XAA08718; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:37:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id XAA08470 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:36:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from johngalt.wwwebservers.com (johngalt.wwwebservers.com [208.21.240.14]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA08463 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:36:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from johngalt.wwwebservers.com (jon@johngalt.wwwebservers.com [208.21.240.14]) by johngalt.wwwebservers.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA05917; Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:36:42 -0600 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 22:36:42 -0600 (CST) From: Jon Torrez To: bsmith@h-e.com cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Help Help :) In-Reply-To: <00001502.sm@h-e.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 bsmith@h-e.com wrote: Assuming you aren't getting any actual error messages from the Macs involved, just ignore the stuff in the syslog. I've noticed that the Mac client has a habit of trying to set file parameters even on read-only files, this really isn't netatalk's problem. As far as I've been able to tell it has no consequences other than the "noise" in the syslog, and afpd is really chatty there anyway (60% of my syslog comes from afpd). I get permissoin denied from our Power Tower Pro 200 w/ CrashOS 8.1 ...the crazy thing is, the crash-and-tos can read .mid files ?? but nothing else...and when you try to drag the file to the desktop it still says permission denied.. +-------- | Jon Torrez | Systems Administrator - WWWebServers, Inc. | http://www.wwwebservers.com / jon@wwwebservers.com +---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 27 00:48:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id AAA06249 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:48:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA06245 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:48:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id AAA10735; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:48:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id AAA10732 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:48:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [198.7.0.32]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id AAA10723 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:48:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from elf (dfoster.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.216]) by mail1.panix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/PanixM1.3) with SMTP id AAA25884 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:48:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: X-Sender: dfoster@popserver.panix.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 23:52:42 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: David Foster Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Unix command support for AppleDouble files In-Reply-To: References: <000014F4.sm@h-e.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 07:00 AM 3/26/98 , Alistair Riddell wrote: >I'm not sure about rm, cp and mv replacements, but there are scripts which >will check for .Appledouble files which no longer have a data fork >associated with them because it has been delted or move elsewhere. A bunch of which got posted here at one point, and I foolishly didn't save them. Anyone have a URL for any of these (straightforward enough to write, I suppose, but why re-invent the wheel). From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 27 12:25:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA15286 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:25:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA15275 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 12:25:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA04966 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:13:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA27240; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:13:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA27236 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:13:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA27182 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 08:13:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA32507; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:13:21 GMT Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:13:21 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: David Foster cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Unix command support for AppleDouble files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have put one such script at http://frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk/~ali/AppleDouble.pl I don't know who wrote it but I'd be happy to acknowledge them if they let me know who they are. On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, David Foster wrote: > At 07:00 AM 3/26/98 , Alistair Riddell wrote: > >I'm not sure about rm, cp and mv replacements, but there are scripts which > >will check for .Appledouble files which no longer have a data fork > >associated with them because it has been delted or move elsewhere. > > A bunch of which got posted here at one point, and I foolishly didn't save > them. Anyone have a URL for any of these (straightforward enough to write, > I suppose, but why re-invent the wheel). > > -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 27 14:51:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA22983 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:51:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA22930 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:51:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA06324; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:51:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA06321 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:51:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA06306 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:51:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22720 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:51:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from rock.me.mtu.edu (root@rock.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.31]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01323 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:51:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from critter.cec.mtu.edu (critter.cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.204]) by rock.me.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id OAA06930 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:51:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:52:27 -0500 (EST) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@critter.cec.mtu.edu To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Unix command support for AppleDouble files In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 07:00 AM 3/26/98, Alistair Riddell wrote: >I'm not sure about rm, cp and mv replacements, but there are scripts which >will check for .Appledouble files which no longer have a data fork >associated with them because it has been delted or move elsewhere. Does netatalk create files in .Appledouble when they just have creator/type info automatically created from them by the extension mapping? If .Appledouble files only exist for files that *had* information assigned to them, how does it help anyone if you mv that file and then delete it's .Appledouble? If you have users which do a lot of Mac and unix work, it might make sense to make wrappers for the above, so that: mv would move the file and it's friends cp would copy the file and it's friends rm would remove the file and it's friends Then you wouldn't even have to worry about running some death script to check for orphan .Appledouble files. Writing these wrappers is left as an exercise for the reader. :) - edan From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 27 15:25:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA25092 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:25:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA25078 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:25:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA24843 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:18:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA16513; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:18:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA16510 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:18:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from gate.pubserv.com ([208.130.167.4]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id PAA16504 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 15:18:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by gate.pubserv.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA17844 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:56:42 -0600 Received: from morgana.pubserv.com(204.253.233.11) by gate.pubserv.com via smap (V1.3) id sma017842; Fri Mar 27 13:56:26 1998 Received: from Mufasa.pubserv.com by morgana.pubserv.com with SMTP id AA06657 (5.64+/IDA-1.3.3 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu); Fri, 27 Mar 98 14:26:38 -0600 Received: from localhost (rich@localhost) by Mufasa.pubserv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA10890 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:26:49 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: Mufasa.pubserv.com: rich owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:26:47 -0600 (CST) From: Richard Mann To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Unix command support for AppleDouble files In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 27 Mar 1998, Edan Idzerda wrote: > At 07:00 AM 3/26/98, Alistair Riddell wrote: > >I'm not sure about rm, cp and mv replacements, but there are scripts which > >will check for .Appledouble files which no longer have a data fork > >associated with them because it has been delted or move elsewhere. > > ... > > Then you wouldn't even have to worry about running some death > script to check for orphan .Appledouble files. Is there any kind of issue with orphan .AppleDouble files, besides general housekeeping? Usually for us the issue is a file not being able to be opened by its application on a Mac, as a result of the resource fork not being there, or it having the wrong permissions. For this I agree it could be handy to have some utilities on the unix side to make things simpler. But does it cause system problems of any sort, when a .AppleDouble file sits out there with no match in its parent directory? //\ --rich // \ // / \ Richard Mann -- Network Administrator // / / \ P u b l i c a t i o n S e r v i c e s, I n c. \\ / / / Champaign, Illinois, USA 61821 (217) 398-2060 x22 \\ / / \\ / \\/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 27 17:31:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA00500 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA00496 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:31:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA04638; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:31:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA04631 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:31:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA04626 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:31:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id OAA12877; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:31:17 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <00001511.sm@h-e.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Unix command support for AppleDouble files Date: Fri, 27 Mar 98 14:24:33 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: rich@pubserv.com (Richard Mann) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 3018 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:31 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Usually for us the issue is a file not being able to be > opened by its application on a Mac, as a result of the > resource fork not being there, or it having the wrong > permissions. This is the most common problem here too, because somebody messed up the name or location relationship of the two parts of a file. But there are other problems too, read on. > But does it cause system problems of any sort, when > a .AppleDouble file sits out there with no match in > its parent directory? Orphaned ".AppleDouble" files don't bother netatalk directly, it never even looks at them, so there is no system-level problem other than the space these files take up. But they can cause problems of a more subtle sort. Suppose you drag a file into a netatalk-shared directory from the Mac, let's call it "testfile" and let's say it's an Excel worksheet (just an example, I've had this happen with two different applications). Then you go to that directory from the Unix side and "rm testfile", which leaves an orphan in ".AppleDouble/testfile". Later on you use a Unix text editor to create another file called "testfile" in the directory. Now when you look in the directory through netatalk, "testfile" appears to be an Excel file, because the new Unix-created "testfile" got paired with the old Mac-created ".AppleDouble/testfile". But of course when you try to double-click on the file, Excel chokes on it. The extension mappings from AppleVolumes.system don't apply because as far as netatalk can tell the file has already been explictly set to Excel's creator and type. I have been trying to handle this by educating the users, but despite repeated explanations some of them just aren't catching on to how netatalk works. I'd much rather have the Unix commands automatically deal with the netatalk complications. Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Mar 27 17:52:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA01836 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:52:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA01831 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:51:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA10222; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:51:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA10216 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:51:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA10212 for ; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:51:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id OAA13410; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:51:52 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <00001512.sm@h-e.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Help Help :) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 98 14:35:39 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: jon@wwwebservers.com (Jon Torrez) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 3039 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Fri, 27 Mar 1998 14:51 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Original message sent on Thu, Mar 26 2:36 PM by jon@wwwebservers.com (Jon Torrez) : > I get permissoin denied from our Power Tower Pro 200 w/ CrashOS > 8.1 ...the crazy thing is, the crash-and-tos can read .mid files ?? but > nothing else...and when you try to drag the file to the desktop it still > says permission denied.. Hmm. If you are using netatalk 1.4b2 and not the asun version, there is a patch at the u-mich netatalk site that is described as being a fix for MacOS 8 problems including trouble with read-only files. I applied this before I ever tried to use netatalk, so I don't know what effect it really has. But if you haven't applied this patch yet, give it a try, it might just fix the problem. Hope this helps! Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Mar 28 05:55:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA14421 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 05:55:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA14413 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 05:54:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA10623; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 05:54:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA10621 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 05:54:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmail.tpgi.com.au (newmail.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.54]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA10617 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 05:54:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by newmail.tpgi.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA01063; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:54:59 +1100 Received: from tar-ppp-167.tpgi.com.au(203.26.26.167), claiming to be "gretchen" via SMTP by buffy.tpgi.com.au, id smtpdc01018; Sat Mar 28 21:54:51 1998 From: "Eddie Irvine" To: "Harry Zink" , Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] We're doing benchmarks (tips, tricks, help, info) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 19:52:50 +1000 Message-ID: <01bd5a2f$455c94e0$LocalHost@gretchen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu AppleShare IP is a good product. We run it at our high school and it only crashes once a week or so. We also run Netatalk on FreeBSD. It has never crashed. Never. Ever. I hear NT support for macs is as slow as molasses. And expensive. forget NT. How much is the cost differential, btw? AppleShare came with our mac fileserver. Will it come free with yours? Anyhow, here are some reasons for Netatalk: An apple talk network slows down fairly drastically with more than 16 nodes or so. If you have more, you'll need to break it up. With AppleShare, you will have to buy a router as well. With Linux, you won't. If you're getting a G3 it sounds like you've got a pretty big network to look after :) AppleShare IP comes with ip aliasing so you can use it as an internet gateway. It also has a fairly good webserver and email engine, although I don't know how you will go with cgi's. Linux/FreeBSD also come with ip aliasing, and better still, a proxy server. The web server is simply the best in the business. Appleshare is a bit of a pest to set up if you have thousands of users. With Linux, it is easy. A PC could speak appleshare 4 with client software called "COPS". Now that we have AppleShare IP 5, COPS doesn't seem to want to work any more. Linux can run samba - a Windows NT file services server. Windows 95 clients use the same logon and password when they start up as they would if they were connecting via a chooser on a mac. Of course, they then connect to exactly the same home directory on Linux. As I said, AppleShare is a good product, and I expect a G3 will blow your linux machine out of the water if filesharing speed is the only issue. If price has anything to do with it, or extra features, then Linux is the better option. Who is paying? If they really want AppleShare 5, let them have it. And instead of buying a router, get a moderately configured Linux PC to do the routing and you then you can play to your heart's content. >We've had a meeting the other day, examing alternate solutions, and >decided on doing a 'shoot-out' between the various solutions. Currently >selected are: Windows NT with Macintosh services, Windows NT using the >DAVE 2.0 client, AppleShare IP 5.0x - and I want to throw a Netatalk >system into this as well to show that Linux/Netatalk *IS* a viable >alternative. One of the department's directors generally just smiles, and >discards anytime I bring up UNIX/Linux based solutions... but mostly I >want to be able to really put netatalk to the test, and possibly even get >us all some real-world benchmarks as a result. From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Mar 28 10:46:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA19710 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:46:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA19706 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:45:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA03854; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:45:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA03852 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:45:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from COE.Missouri.EDU (tiger.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA03848 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 10:45:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from z-ha-dum.coe.missouri.edu (chirthi.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.70]) by COE.Missouri.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08628; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:45:49 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <270.891099633.62683000.2802@> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 09:40:33 -0600 From: Mark Donnelly Subject: Re: Re: [netatalk-admins] We're doing benchmarks (tips, tricks, help, info) To: , , Reply-To: Mark Donnelly X-Importance: normal X-Sensitivity: normal X-Priority: normal X-Mailer: TeamWARE Embla 2.1, , Build: 128 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Eddie Irvine: > >As I said, AppleShare is a good product, and I expect a G3 will >blow your linux machine out of the water if filesharing speed is >the only issue. > Of course, you could install linux on the G3 as well. Maybe as an external disk, that you could mount when you were doing the testing of linux. That would probably blow almost anything other than an alpha out of the water. But, you would still have the problem (as brought up before) that netatalk actually has to translate to get its resource fork, whereas MacOS just reads it off the disk. --Mark From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Mar 28 12:26:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA21964 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:26:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA21960 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:26:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA05704; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:26:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA05702 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:26:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA05698 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 12:26:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id SAA01677; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:26:10 +0100 Message-ID: <351D3211.32E1C6B8@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 18:23:29 +0100 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Donnelly , Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] We're doing benchmarks (tips, tricks, help, info) References: <270.891099633.62683000.2802@> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Mark, Mark Donnelly wrote: > But, you would still have the problem (as brought up before) that > netatalk actually has to translate to get its resource fork, > whereas MacOS just reads it off the disk. I must admit, I do not understand, what do You mean by 'translating' here, and why netatalk needs to do it. Could You please explain? Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Mar 28 15:27:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA25030 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:27:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA25026 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:27:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA24777; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:27:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA24775 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:27:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from COE.Missouri.EDU (tiger.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.20]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA24771 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 15:27:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from tiger.coe.missouri.edu (tiger.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.20]) by COE.Missouri.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA18434; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 14:27:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 14:27:15 -0600 (CST) From: Mark Donnelly To: Andras Kadinger cc: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] We're doing benchmarks (tips, tricks, help, info) In-Reply-To: <351D3211.32E1C6B8@freeside.elte.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > I must admit, I do not understand, what do You mean by 'translating' > here, and why netatalk needs to do it. Could You please explain? Sure! Unless you have a hfs volume mounted (which is probably not the case), UNIX doesn't actually *have* a resource fork. Netatalk emulates it with a ".AppleDouble" directory that contains an identically-named resource fork file, but those aren't necessarily there. So, netatalk has to make it up as it goes along sometimes. It uses the file extensions mapping in the AppleVolumes file to provide a filetype/creator automatically. (and then caches that to disk). But... Even when the .AppleDouble resource file does exist, you're talking about at least two separate file accesses to look at one file. On the other hand, the Mac doubtless has optimizations in the OS to speed up the way that it access data/resource forks. So, that's pretty well the difference. --Mark "I think so Brain, but if they called them sad meals, then nobody would buy them." --Pinky From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Mar 28 16:25:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA26268 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:25:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA26264 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:24:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA07110; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:24:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA07106 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:24:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA07102; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:24:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id WAA12427; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:24:46 +0100 Message-ID: <351D6A02.6D284A99@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:22:10 +0100 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wesley.craig@umich.edu, Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] We're doing benchmarks (tips, tricks, help, info) References: <199803282109.QAA26010@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu wesley.craig@umich.edu wrote: > I don't think there's a big lose on file reads and writes. There is, > however, a big lose on enumerates (the AFP equivalent of Unix 'ls'). > In this case, afpd must open the AppleDouble header file for each file > in the directory. Very expensive, especially if the directory is NFS > or AFS mounted. In fact I was thinking about caching type/creator/comment/icon/other miscellaneous information with the data the catalogueing daemon proposed by Adrian would collect. Adrian, what do You think? This way all the necessary information an enumerate I assume would need could be in one place, hopefully sparing a lot of disk seek time - my biggest complaint about netatalk performance was always the excessive seeking during enumerates, which eats away precious disk bandwidth from more productive uses. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu PS: Wesley, did You receive my second message regarding the website creation for Adrian's version? From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Mar 28 17:02:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA27284 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:02:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA27278 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:02:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA26028; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:09:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA26024 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:09:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA26010; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:09:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803282109.QAA26010@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Mark Donnelly cc: Andras Kadinger , Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] We're doing benchmarks (tips, tricks, help, info) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 28 Mar 1998 14:27:15 CST." Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:09:29 -0500 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Mark Donnelly > To: Andras Kadinger > It uses the file extensions mapping in the > AppleVolumes file to provide a filetype/creator automatically. (and then > caches that to disk). Actually, it only caches certain information to disk. In particular, it avoids caching the type and creator, so that they can be changed in the extension map. > Even when the .AppleDouble resource file does exist, you're talking about > at least two separate file accesses to look at one file. On the other > hand, the Mac doubtless has optimizations in the OS to speed up the way > that it access data/resource forks. I don't think there's a big lose on file reads and writes. There is, however, a big lose on enumerates (the AFP equivalent of Unix 'ls'). In this case, afpd must open the AppleDouble header file for each file in the directory. Very expensive, especially if the directory is NFS or AFS mounted. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Mar 28 21:56:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA02309 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:56:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA02301 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:56:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA01599; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:56:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA01596 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:56:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.zao.or.jp (mail.zao.or.jp [210.132.55.227]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA01587 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 21:56:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.4] ([210.132.55.226]) by mail.zao.or.jp (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA19307 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:54:56 +0900 Date: 29 Mar 98 11:56:08 +0000 Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk over IP-Masqurade From: "kazunori miura" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello! ALL I want to connect AppleShare IP through IP-Masqurade on Linux-Box. Is it possible ? If I can connect over IP-Masqurade,how do I set up it? I am using netatalk-1.4b2 and MacOS8.1. regard, ----------------------------- kazunori miura zao-net yamagata prefecture ----------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Mar 28 23:22:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id XAA04558 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:22:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA04554 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:22:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id XAA17549; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:22:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id XAA17547 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:22:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from zombywoof.usra.edu (1Cust168.tnt4.tco2.da.uu.net [153.35.88.168]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA17542 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:22:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from usra.edu (cbeaudry@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zombywoof.usra.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA06826 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:22:14 -0500 Message-ID: <351DCC74.9C7A31A0@usra.edu> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:22:12 -0500 From: Carl Beaudry Reply-To: cbeaudry@usra.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk over IP-Masqurade References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu kazunori miura wrote: > I want to connect AppleShare IP through IP-Masqurade on Linux-Box. > Is it possible ? Yes it is. I do it almost every day. And, conveniently, nothing special is needed to make it happen. All you need is to have IP Masquerading working with a defaul policy of masquerading all traffic from your local network (by convention 192.168.1.X) and an AppleShare IP server somewhere to connect to. You don't need netatalk to be running on the local Linux box that's doing the masquerading, although there is no reason why it can't either. The official IP-masquerading page is the place to go for IP Masqerade setup advice (you can link to it from the HOWTO) but all you need is a Mac running OS8 connected to the Linux box over ethernet (or whatever) and it should work with no special preparation. --Carl From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Mar 29 01:02:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id BAA15207 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 01:02:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id BAA15200 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 01:02:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA05992 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:59:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id XAA21626; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:59:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id XAA21624 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:59:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from babba.advancenet.net (babba.advancenet.net [205.198.248.21]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA21620 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:59:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.argus-systems.com (ranger.argus-systems.com [206.221.232.80]) by babba.advancenet.net (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA31689; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 23:00:11 -0600 Received: from localhost by mail.argus-systems.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA14273; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:59:18 -0600 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:59:18 -0600 From: Andrew McNabb To: kazunori miura cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk over IP-Masqurade In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have the same setup as you. I've been running IP Masq for some time. I don't think I've ever tried to make a connection out, but from what I know about IP Masq, it should work fine. If AppleShare IP receives data from the same port as it sends, then it will work. If not, it is possible to write an IP Masq module. On 29 Mar 1998, kazunori miura wrote: > Hello! ALL > I want to connect AppleShare IP through IP-Masqurade on Linux-Box. > Is it possible ? > If I can connect over IP-Masqurade,how do I set up it? > I am using netatalk-1.4b2 and MacOS8.1. > regard, > > ----------------------------- > kazunori miura zao-net > yamagata prefecture > ----------------------------- > > ---------------------------------------------- Andrew McNabb Argus Systems Group amcnabb@argus-systems.com ---------------------------------------------- I am an International Arms Trafficker!!!!! http://online.offshore.com.ai/arms-trafficker/ ---------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Mar 29 03:49:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id DAA19033 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 03:49:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA19028 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 03:49:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA20644; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 03:49:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA20640 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 03:49:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA20636; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 03:49:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-91.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.91]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA28202; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 01:49:18 -0800 Message-Id: <199803290949.BAA28202@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] enumaration optimization/trash can problem... Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:46:42 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink To: "Andras Kadinger" , , "Netatalk list" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >In fact I was thinking about caching type/creator/comment/icon/other >miscellaneous information with the data the catalogueing daemon proposed >by Adrian would collect. This should be very possible by caching the relevant information, and before verifying against something like a checksum before reading from the cache (to make sure the data is current, and/or hasn't changed - if it changed, update the cache...) We've used this in the case of certain directory cacheing mechanisms, so I do not think it would be that impossible to implement. What worries me on a different level is the 'trash can' problem, which could be a permissions issue, but could probably be very easily resolved by s a slight change in the code. Instead of creating 'trash folder #xx', why not just create folders labeled 'trash can folder_username_xx'? That way, each logged in user definitely creates and gets a unique trash can assigned to them. The only problem I see is when you have a user logged in multiple times (a possible situation), and you end up with multiple trashcans for the same user... this could lead to deletion nightmares. Of course, this could be eliminated by eliminating the # at the end, and only extending the traschcan folder name by the 'username' - then every subsequent login under the same name would inidicate the current status of the trash can for that particular user... Do-able??? Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Mar 29 03:51:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id DAA19122 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 03:51:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA19115 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 03:51:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id DAA22551; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 03:51:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id DAA22549 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 03:51:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA22545 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 03:51:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-91.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.91]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA28228; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 01:51:57 -0800 Message-Id: <199803290951.BAA28228@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: Re: Re: [netatalk-admins] Linux on G3 Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:49:21 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink To: "Mark Donnelly" , , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Of course, you could install linux on the G3 as well. Maybe as >an external disk, that you could mount when you were doing the >testing of linux. That would probably blow almost anything other >than an alpha out of the water. Hypothetically possible, but Linux on PPC does not yet have the stability and reliability of x86 Linux, and I need to show a 'real' solution, not an experimental condition in these benchmarks. I'd love the combine a cool OS (Linux) with cool hardware (G3), but if at all, I can only do it 'off the record' - besides I believe Linux PPC does not support our Adaptec 3940UW SCSI controller, or the Asant=E9 10/100 ethernet card yet... Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Mar 29 03:53:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id DAA19427 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 03:53:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA19333 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 03:52:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA12153; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 03:52:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA12151 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 03:52:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA12147 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 03:52:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-91.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.91]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA28242; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 01:53:42 -0800 Message-Id: <199803290953.BAA28242@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] We're doing benchmarks (tips, tricks, help, info) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 00:51:06 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink To: "Eddie Irvine" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >If they really want AppleShare 5, let them have it. And instead >of buying a router, get a moderately configured Linux PC >to do the routing and you then you can play to your heart's content. It's not a question of what they want, but thanks to open-mindedness of our department manager, he is interested in what solution provides the best performance - that's why we're having our shootout - and I'm sneaking in the Linux box to prove a point, and to satisfy my own curiosity. Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Mar 29 10:16:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA10471 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 10:16:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA10465 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 10:16:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA09733 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:09:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA04876; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:09:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA04873 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:09:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA04863 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 09:09:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA27784; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:09:43 +0100 Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:09:42 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Harry Zink cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Re: [netatalk-admins] Linux on G3 In-Reply-To: <199803290951.BAA28228@nucleus.fizbin.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sun, 29 Mar 1998, Harry Zink wrote: > I'd love the combine a cool OS (Linux) with cool hardware (G3), but if at= =20 > all, I can only do it 'off the record' - besides I believe Linux PPC does= =20 > not support our Adaptec 3940UW SCSI controller, or the Asant=E9 10/100=20 > ethernet card yet... I don't know about the asante card, but since the 3940 is supported on the x86 it should also be supported under any platform. PCI is the same whether it's on x86, alpha or PPC. --=20 Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 Microsoft - because god hates us From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Mar 29 11:05:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA11649 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:05:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA11644 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:05:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA11598 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:04:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA18220; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:04:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA18217 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:04:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from sid.trust.ee (sid.trust.ee [194.204.23.180]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA18192 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 11:03:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from sid.trust.ee (wink.trust.ee [194.204.23.184]) by sid.trust.ee (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21624; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 19:02:19 +0300 Message-ID: <351E7159.584424D5@sid.trust.ee> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 19:05:45 +0300 From: Hannu Krosing X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alistair Riddell CC: Harry Zink , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Linux on G3 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Alistair Riddell wrote: > > On Sun, 29 Mar 1998, Harry Zink wrote: > > > I'd love the combine a cool OS (Linux) with cool hardware (G3), but if at > > all, I can only do it 'off the record' - besides I believe Linux PPC does > > not support our Adaptec 3940UW SCSI controller, or the Asanté 10/100 > > ethernet card yet... > > I don't know about the asante card, but since the 3940 is supported on the > x86 it should also be supported under any platform. PCI is the same > whether it's on x86, alpha or PPC. At least BeOS recognized Asante 10/100 as a DEC tulip (DEC 21041 or smth) card, so that this could also be probably easily sopported. Hannu From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Mar 29 13:20:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA14358 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:20:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA14346 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:20:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA14094 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:12:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA25529; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:12:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA25527 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:12:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from goe.net (stud3.stud.uni-goettingen.de [134.76.175.201]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA25517 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 13:12:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.113] (kol.stud.uni-goettingen.de [134.76.63.209]) by goe.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA02732 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:14:37 +0200 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:13:36 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Nico Lumma Subject: [netatalk-admins] routing problems...:-( Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I am trying to install netatalk on a server which is located on a university campus. I have a couple of problems doing so...:-( 1. How does Appletalk over IP work? Shouldn't the Appletalk get routed through a firewall via TCP/IP? Well, it doesn't work... 2. How can we assign our own zone? We always show up in another zone...Is there some sort of DNS for Appletalk where we have to get our numbers assigned? 3. What's the deal with the asun patches? Even if we install that, the TCP/IP thing does not work... Thanks in advance, Nico "Even though Mac Users may be only 10% of the market, always remember that we are the top 10%" - Douglas Adams From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Mar 29 15:07:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA16664 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:07:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA16660 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:07:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA17705; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:07:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA17703 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:07:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [198.7.0.32]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA17695 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:07:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from elf (dfoster.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.216]) by mail1.panix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/PanixM1.3) with SMTP id PAA22837 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:07:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803292007.PAA22837@mail1.panix.com> X-Sender: dfoster@popserver.panix.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 15:14:35 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: David Foster Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] routing problems...:-( In-Reply-To: References: < Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 01:13 PM 3/29/98 , Nico Lumma wrote: >Hi, > >I am trying to install netatalk on a server which is located on a >university campus. I have a couple of problems doing so...:-( > >1. How does Appletalk over IP work? Shouldn't the Appletalk get routed >through a firewall via TCP/IP? The file protocol will get routed through the firewall (dependent, of course, on firewall setup), but you won't be able to browse servers through the firewall (browsing still depends on appletalk). >Well, it doesn't work... A tad more info might help here. > >2. How can we assign our own zone? We always show up in another zone...Is >there some sort of DNS for Appletalk where we have to get our numbers >assigned? In Appletalk, zones and net numbers are defined by seed routers. It sounds like you've got a seed router on the subnet someplace. If you want to be in a different existing zone, you can specify this in your atalkd.conf (or, on the mac in the appletalk control panel). If you want to create a new zone, you'll need to talk to whoever is administering the seed router for the network. > >3. What's the deal with the asun patches? Even if we install that, the >TCP/IP thing does not work... The asun patches implement AppleShare/IP. Netatalk classic is appletalk-only. So you need to apply the patches in order to get appleshare/ip running. In addition, you'll need a few lines in your /etc/services file, and you'll need to be sure that you've got fairly recent appleshare clients. What version of MacOS and what version of the appleshare client are you using on the workstations? From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Mar 29 20:23:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA24062 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:23:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA24057 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 20:23:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA20239 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 17:00:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA26804; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 17:00:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA26802 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 17:00:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA26798 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 17:00:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA28929; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:00:47 +0100 Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:00:47 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Nico Lumma cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] routing problems...:-( In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sun, 29 Mar 1998, Nico Lumma wrote: > 1. How does Appletalk over IP work? Shouldn't the Appletalk get routed > through a firewall via TCP/IP? Well, it doesn't work... Netatalk does not implement appletalk over IP. I don't think there are any implementatinos that work under a current version of linux. Note that asun's patches implement AFP (AppleShare) over TCP-IP which is different from AppleTalk over TCP-IP. > 2. How can we assign our own zone? We always show up in another zone...Is > there some sort of DNS for Appletalk where we have to get our numbers > assigned? AppleTalk zones are defined through a seed router. Netatalk can act as a seed router but if there is already a seed router on your network then you cannot change the zone configuration for your subnet. You can appear in a different zone which already exists on your subnet by telling afpd to register in a different zone. See man afpd. > 3. What's the deal with the asun patches? Even if we install that, the > TCP/IP thing does not work... Can you telnet from the Mac to the machine running netatalk? -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 Microsoft - because god hates us From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Mar 29 21:50:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA26596 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:50:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA26588 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:50:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA28797; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:50:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA28794 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:50:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from davinci.anu.edu.au (davinci.anu.edu.au [150.203.45.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA28788 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 21:50:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from faceng.anu.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by davinci.anu.edu.au (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA04571; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:50:24 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <351F0870.EAE6FE81@faceng.anu.edu.au> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:50:24 +1000 From: Robert Edwards Organization: Department of Engineering, ANU, Australia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4c) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alistair Riddell CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] routing problems...:-( References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Alistair, > > 1. How does Appletalk over IP work? Shouldn't the Appletalk get routed > > through a firewall via TCP/IP? Well, it doesn't work... > > Netatalk does not implement appletalk over IP. I don't think there are any > implementatinos that work under a current version of linux. > > Note that asun's patches implement AFP (AppleShare) over TCP-IP which is > different from AppleTalk over TCP-IP. Depending upon your definition of "current", the Linux development kernels from 2.1.80 (I think) upwards all support AppleTalk over IP (also known as ipddp). I have had it running on a machine here using kernel version 2.1.85. It also supports IP over AppleTalk (in case your Linux box is connected to an AppleTalk only network, with an IP gateway somewhere on that network). Of course, it doesn't support IP over AppleTalk at the same time as AppleTalk over IP! Cheers, Bob Edwards, Computer and Robotics Engineer, e-mail: bob@faceng.anu.edu.au Department of Engineering, phone: (+61) 2 6249 4090 Australian National University, fax: (+61) 2 6249 0506 Canberra, AUSTRALIA, 0200 mobile: (+61) 0416 166 761 WWW: http://spigot.anu.edu.au/people/bob/home.html From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 30 02:10:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id CAA10306 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 02:10:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id CAA10293 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 02:10:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA10138 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 01:57:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id BAA21124; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 01:57:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id BAA21122 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 01:57:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.wco.com (shell.wco.com [199.4.94.16]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA21118 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 01:57:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from [207.48.88.64] (volans64.wco.com [207.48.88.64]) by shell.wco.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/WCO-18jul97) with ESMTP id WAA21441 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 22:57:21 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: jhue@mail.wco.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 29 Mar 1998 23:00:28 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Jonathan Hue Subject: [netatalk-admins] PostScript with embedded PJL Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I found that when my NT box sent a PostScript file (generated using a PPD for an HP LaserJet 5M) to my Sun, there were some PJL commands at the beginning of the file. Since psf didn't see "%!" as the first two characters of the file, it happily converted the file to PostScript, and the LaserJet spewed paper for about five minutes until I realized what had happened. Here is a tiny patch that will allow PostScript files with embedded PJL to pass straight through, so that they print normally on a PostScript printer that supports PJL: [295]pondscum:psf: diff -c psf.c.orig psf.c *** psf.c.orig Fri Mar 27 21:12:16 1998 --- psf.c Fri Mar 27 21:22:38 1998 *************** *** 249,254 **** --- 249,257 ---- if ( inlen >= 2 && inbuf[ 0 ] == '%' && inbuf[ 1 ] == '!' ) { syslog( LOG_INFO, "PostScript" ); rc = copyio(); /* PostScript */ + } else if ( inlen >= 2 && inbuf[ 0 ] == '\033' && inbuf[ 1 ] == '%' ) { + syslog( LOG_INFO, "PostScript w/PJL" ); + rc = copyio(); /* PostScript */ } else { syslog( LOG_INFO, "straight text" ); rc = textps(); /* straight text */ -Jonathan jhue@wco.com Adobe Systems Inc., Printing and Systems Division From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 30 03:39:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id DAA12682 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 03:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA12678 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 03:38:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id DAA17297; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 03:38:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id DAA17295 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 03:38:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from poseidon.imbc.gr (poseidon.imbc.gr [193.92.3.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA17291 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 03:38:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from [194.219.167.16] (idd-01.imbc.gr [194.219.167.16]) by poseidon.imbc.gr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA09271 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:33:42 +0300 (EET DST) X-Sender: gewrgiou@poseidon.imbc.gr Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:38:39 +0300 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Kostas Gewrgiou Subject: [netatalk-admins] ASun's AFP/TCP patches Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Are the macos8 bug present in netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 ? the patch for 1.4b2 doesn't work since the code has changed. The README.ASUN doesn't mention anything about this bug. Also in the README says that the STREAMS module for Solaris is buggy and a new beta module exists, is this module available somewhere or i'll have to wait for the next release ? -Kostas Gewrgiou From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 30 07:16:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA02071 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:16:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA02065 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:16:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id HAA02665; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:16:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id HAA02662 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:16:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from valerie.inf.elte.hu (valerie.inf.elte.hu [157.181.50.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA02546 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 07:15:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (szoli@localhost) by valerie.inf.elte.hu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA26410 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:15:07 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:15:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: SEBESTYEN Zoltan To: Netatalk admins mailinglist Subject: [netatalk-admins] Printing to an AppleTalk printer Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-851401618-891260107=:23607" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-851401618-891260107=:23607 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Thanks for all the pieces of advice you've sent. I managed to set up netatalk as a MAC fileserver. Now here comes my problem with printing. I found a HOWTO about printing on AppleTalk and succeed to print from my UNIX and also the MACs know about the UNIX box's printer spooler, it appears in the chooser's window. The problem comes when I try to print from a Mac via this spooler. Papd says it can't find some lock file and then stops the job. Hereby I attach the necessary config files(printcap and papd.conf) and the error logfile. Another quesion: Can be a printing job cancelled while being processed? 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Chang" Reply-To: "Warren H. Chang" To: "Warren H. Chang" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, Appletalk on Linux Subject: [netatalk-admins] Question on usage/compilation. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello Everyone, After reading through old emails and current problems as well as looking at the netatalk faq-o-matic.. I still cant' get this to work. If you could oblige, I would be very grateful. Currently, we want to setup netatalk on our RedHat 5.0 machine so our Mac network can share the unix folder instead of our current method of ftp'n files over to that said folder. I had originally installed the netatalk 1.4b2 RPM from the w3.rufus.org rpm depository and it installed fine. then even after I made sure appletalk was running (with insmod and lsmod) I got the following errors on boot-up of the machine. too many routes/iface I know someone on this list had the same error, but according to him, changing the numbers in the dpp.c file crashed his system a lot. So given that this server is a rather important one, I would prefer a little more careful solution if one exists. upon every other attempt to startup netatalk, we get Atalkd Child exit 1 we're running redhat 5.0 with a 3com 3x904 card in it. our atalkd.conf file eth0 -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -addr 1000.100 -zone "our_name" currently, i'm trying to compile the 1.3.3 version. any help is appreciated. Warren From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 30 10:40:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA09747 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:40:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA09742 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:40:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA11626; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:40:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA11614 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:40:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from wheat.farm.niu.edu (wheat.farm.niu.edu [131.156.99.4]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA11601 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:40:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from [131.156.7.61] (moe.acs.niu.edu [131.156.7.61]) by wheat.farm.niu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16605 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:40:00 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: z954043@wheat.farm.niu.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:39:54 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Brian Bergstrand Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Question on usage/compilation. Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Hello Everyone, [snip] > >we're running redhat 5.0 with a 3com 3x904 card in it. > >our atalkd.conf file >eth0 -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -addr 1000.100 -zone "our_name" > >currently, i'm trying to compile the 1.3.3 version. > >any help is appreciated. > >Warren Have you applied the RedHat 5 patch yet? There is something wrong with the RPM binary that RedHat made, apply the patch and retry, or download the latest asun source and compile it yourself. ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/public/asun/ Brian Brian Bergstrand Network Specialist - ACS Northern Illinois University 815-753-8547 bbergstrand@niu.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 30 11:17:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA11666 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:17:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA11659 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:17:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA00466; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:17:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA00459 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:17:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from icompute.com ([209.46.51.194]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA00440 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:17:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from [209.46.51.196] by icompute.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.0); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:21:20 -0600 X-Sender: donlee_in@icompute.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 10:18:24 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: donlee_nat@mailhost.icompute.com (Donald Lee) Subject: [netatalk-admins] Localtalk on Mac IIci? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm running netatalk 1.4b2 on a Mac IIci under NetBSD 1.3. Everything works fine on Ethernet, but I want to use the atalk routing capability to connect my printer to the printer port using atalk. atalkd.conf has both interfaces in it, but atalkd complains that "sl0" is not an interface. (I assumed that sl0 might be the atalk interface because its MTU is 296) How do I get the NetBSD kernel to treat the printer port as a network interface for localtalk/atalk? Thanks in advance, -dgl- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 30 12:00:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA14353 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:00:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA14349 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:00:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA24782; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:00:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA24758 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:00:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from cheviot.ncl.ac.uk (cheviot.ncl.ac.uk [128.240.233.51]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA24729 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:59:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from bygate.ncl.ac.uk by cheviot.ncl.ac.uk id (8.7.6/ for ncl.ac.uk) with SMTP; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:59:36 +0100 (BST) Received: (ngmt@localhost) by bygate.ncl.ac.uk (8.6.7/8.6.x-cf revision 8 for SunOS 4.1.x) id RAA27465; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:59:35 +0100 From: "Gerry.Tomlinson" Message-Id: <199803301659.RAA27465@bygate.ncl.ac.uk> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Unix command support for AppleDouble files To: bsmith@h-e.com Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:59:33 +0100 (BST) Cc: rich@pubserv.com, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <00001511.sm@h-e.com> from "bsmith@h-e.com" at Mar 27, 98 02:24:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > > > Usually for us the issue is a file not being able to be > > opened by its application on a Mac, as a result of the > > resource fork not being there, or it having the wrong > > permissions. > > This is the most common problem here too, because somebody messed up the name or > location relationship of the two parts of a file. My utility afile, which I've improved since I first announced it, will report on various inconsistencies between data fork and AppleDouble header as well as, or instead of, displaying the type/creator info. You can now apply it to an AppleDouble header file as well as a data file. It's available from ftp://ftp.ncl.ac.uk/pub/users/ngmt/netatalk/afile.tgz which also includes an rc script, acleandir, to "clean up" netatalk directories. acleandir has various options to vary the amount of "cleaning", delete files interactively etc. Gerry --- Gerry.Tomlinson@newcastle.ac.uk Computing Officer Department of Computing Science, University of Newcastle, Tel: +44 191 222 8139 Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, United Kingdom. Fax: +44 191 222 8232 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 30 13:06:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA18348 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:06:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA18341 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:06:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA16340; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:06:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA16337 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:06:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from logjam.ucc.nau.edu (mailgate.nau.edu [134.114.96.14]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA16320 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:06:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.unp.nau.edu by NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU (PMDF V5.1-10 #24139) with ESMTP id <01IV9X1TP9PA95NVVH@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU> for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:05:49 MST Received: from [134.114.40.74] by mail.unp.nau.edu with ESMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:10:30 -0700 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 11:01:35 -0700 From: Scott Sawyer Subject: [netatalk-admins] Dumb newbie question about groups on linux X-Sender: sawyer@mail.unp.nau.edu To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu How do you set up different sharing groups and make netatalk show them as options in the Chooser to connect to. I've gotten netatalk installed and working but only at the User level and am about to install a VAR server 3000 from VA Research and I have yet to figure out groups. Where am I sucking. Thank you for your time. Scott Sawyer Office Automation Specialist Sr. Northern Arizona University Publication Services phone: (520) 523-0084 fax: (520) 523 0085 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 30 13:37:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA19878 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:37:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA19872 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:37:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA05656; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:37:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA05649 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:37:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgi-server.wooster.edu (cgi-server.wooster.edu [140.103.29.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA05637 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:37:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from anchor (anchor.wooster.edu [140.103.29.10]) by cgi-server.wooster.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA13579 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:37:35 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980330132945.007a3b00@acs.wooster.edu> X-Sender: vdiscipio@acs.wooster.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:29:45 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Vince Di Scipio Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems Printing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, New to the list, scanned the archives and didn't find and answer so here is a question. I have setup Netatalk 1.4b2 on Linux 2.0.33. and it works for the most part. I am able to mount file spaces and publish print devicesfrtom the /etc/printcap. I have set up the papd.conf and the printers show up in the Chooser. I am able to print to the printers from a Mac but they seem to be setting in the queue for an inordinant amount of time sometime forever. Is there a timeout that needs set somewhere? I am able to print insrtantly using lpr -P$Printername $filename. and that also prints the file queued from the Mac out. Is there something I need to do to have the lpd daemon take notice there are jobs waiting in /var/spool/lpd/$spooldir. I have read conflicting reports on using /dev/null in printcap as the lp device. I am doinf that. I am also using LPRng 3.4.1. Any help woule be appreciated. Vince Vince Di Scipio Network Administrator The College of Wooster Wooster OH, 44691 vdiscipio@acs.wooster.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 30 14:58:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA23692 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:58:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA23662 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:57:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA05148; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:57:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA05139 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:57:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.nmc.siu.edu (orion.nmc.siu.edu [131.230.35.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA05123 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:57:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fleming@localhost) by orion.nmc.siu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.4) id NAA24758 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:57:53 -0600 From: "Paul M. Fleming" Message-Id: <199803301957.NAA24758@orion.nmc.siu.edu> Subject: [netatalk-admins] upgrade from 1.4b2 to asun 18.2 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 13:57:53 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've been using netatalk 1.4b2 for a while and would like to upgrade to Adrians version. Any problems other than the AppleDesktop folder needing to be erased and recreated. The server is used entirely for a Mac file server and as a result I am concerned that the resource forks remain intacted. Any problems or comments. Paul Fleming New Media Center Southern Illinois University Carbondale IL From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 30 15:47:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA25665 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:47:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA25659 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:47:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA29812; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:47:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA29802 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:47:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA29792 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:47:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id WAA25707; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 22:45:56 +0200 Message-ID: <351FF5DB.A0A62F80@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:43:23 +0200 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Sawyer , Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Dumb newbie question about groups on linux References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Scott, Scott Sawyer wrote: > How do you set up different sharing groups and make netatalk show them as > options in the Chooser to connect to. I've gotten netatalk installed and > working but only at the User level and am about to install a VAR server > 3000 from VA Research and I have yet to figure out groups. Where am I > sucking. Do You mean zones here? Please describe, where can you see the above mentioned groups in the chooser? Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 30 16:03:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA26715 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:03:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA26711 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:03:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA00749; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:03:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA00745 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:03:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from oz.plymouth.edu (oz.plymouth.edu [158.136.1.100]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA00741 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:03:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.plymouth.edu (finite.plymouth.edu [158.136.75.171]) by oz.plymouth.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13468; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:03:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <352008AA.5D9F6F11@mail.plymouth.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:04:11 -0500 From: Casey Bisson Reply-To: cbisson@oz.plymouth.edu Organization: Information Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] odd saving behavior Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am using netatalk 1.4b3 + asun on a FreeBSD 2.2.5 machine and am experience some odd saving behavior: According to users, documents which they claim to have saved are not available upon reconnect, or the files are significantly older versions. Has anybody else seen this problem? What logs can I check to find a transcript of the problem? I have not experienced the problem myself (I am an appleshare client on the same server), but the users are pretty smart and I have reasonable faith in their description of the problem. Thank you, Casey Bisson Information Technology Plymouth State College From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 30 16:25:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA28496 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:25:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA28491 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:25:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA09356; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:25:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA09349 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:25:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from SILICON ([165.21.74.4] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA09337; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:25:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by singnet.com.sg with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 05:27:16 +0800 Received: from mail pickup service by singnet.com.sg with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 03:08:03 +0800 Received: from argon.singnet.com.sg - 165.21.74.27 by singnet.com.sg with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 05:32:27 +0800 Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (1@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.164.2]) by argon.singnet.com.sg (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA26877 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 05:29:01 +0800 (SST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id QAA26283; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:25:05 -0500 (EST) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (bulk_mailer v1.5+); Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:25:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA26268 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:25:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA26264 for ; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:24:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA07110; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:24:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA07106 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:24:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA07102; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:24:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id WAA12427; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:24:46 +0100 Message-ID: <351D6A02.6D284A99@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 22:22:10 +0100 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wesley.craig@umich.edu, Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] We're doing benchmarks (tips, tricks, help, info) References: <199803282109.QAA26010@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu wesley.craig@umich.edu wrote: > I don't think there's a big lose on file reads and writes. There is, > however, a big lose on enumerates (the AFP equivalent of Unix 'ls'). > In this case, afpd must open the AppleDouble header file for each file > in the directory. Very expensive, especially if the directory is NFS > or AFS mounted. In fact I was thinking about caching type/creator/comment/icon/other miscellaneous information with the data the catalogueing daemon proposed by Adrian would collect. Adrian, what do You think? This way all the necessary information an enumerate I assume would need could be in one place, hopefully sparing a lot of disk seek time - my biggest complaint about netatalk performance was always the excessive seeking during enumerates, which eats away precious disk bandwidth from more productive uses. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu PS: Wesley, did You receive my second message regarding the website creation for Adrian's version? From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 30 17:10:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA02332 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:10:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA02325 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:10:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA26740; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:10:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA26733 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:10:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from sparta.scl.co.uk (sparta.scl.co.uk [163.164.160.4]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA26716 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:10:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from [163.164.164.52] (lydia.scl.co.uk [163.164.164.52]) by sparta.scl.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA10442 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:10:04 +0100 X-Sender: john@mail.scl.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <352008AA.5D9F6F11@mail.plymouth.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:08:54 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: John Sutton Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] odd saving behavior Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sounds like the "persistent file id's" (lack of!) problem. It may be relevant for you to detail which applications the users concerned are having problems with. I have problems with Eudora and ClarisWorks which effectively render netatalk unusable except for a techie (such as myself) who can understand something of what is going on behind the scenes and take appropriate corrective action when necessary. Not wishing to be (too) provocative here, I have to ask: Does anybody use netatalk successfully in a "real world" environment? And if yes, how do they do it? Guidelines please... :-) >I am using netatalk 1.4b3 + asun on a FreeBSD 2.2.5 machine and am >experience some >odd saving behavior: > >According to users, documents which they claim to have saved are not available >upon reconnect, or the files are significantly older versions. Has anybody >else >seen this problem? What logs can I check to find a transcript of the problem? > >I have not experienced the problem myself (I am an appleshare client on >the same >server), but the users are pretty smart and I have reasonable faith in their >description of the problem. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 30 17:25:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA03706 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:25:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA03653 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:25:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA02958; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:25:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA02953 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:25:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from typeline.com (www.typeline.com [209.116.143.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA02948 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:25:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from typeline.com (typeline.com [209.116.143.131]) by typeline.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA28480 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:24:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from web@typeline.com) Message-ID: <35201BA1.41C67EA6@typeline.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:24:33 -0500 From: Typeline Webmaster Organization: Typeline, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Slow pap downloads... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm running Netatalk 1.4b2 on a FreeBSD 2.2.5 box and have found the pap downloader sends data to my 10baseT ethertalk printer rather slowly. The downloads are going down at 50 to 100k/sec, very slow. From this same box running CAP I was getting 700-800K/sec with the CAP output filter. Any suggestions? From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 30 17:31:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA04394 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:31:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA04354 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:30:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA04993; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:30:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA04988 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:30:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from hyfrydol.reid.org (hyfrydol.reid.org [192.147.236.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA04975 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:30:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hyfrydol.reid.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA16365; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:30:34 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199803302230.OAA16365@hyfrydol.reid.org> To: John Sutton cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] odd saving behavior In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 30 Mar 98 23:08:54 +0100." Date: Mon, 30 Mar 98 14:30:33 -0800 From: Brian Reid X-Mts: smtp Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > netatalk successfully in a "real world" environment? And if yes, how .. I use netatalk at Jordan Middle School, Palo Alto, California, USA. We have 1200 middle school students (ages 11 through 14 years) and 80 adult teachers who use netatalk for absolutely everything. We have had the occasional problem with older versions of Microsoft Powerpoint, but it's easy to explain the workarounds. I am running netatalk 1.3.3 on an ancient MIPS R2000 machine running Ultrix 4.4; I have 5 SCSI disks and an HP 1533A DAT drive on the machine. Students and teachers depend on it for everything. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 30 18:33:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA08040 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 18:33:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA08033 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 18:33:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA21973 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:22:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA16924; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:22:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA16904 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:22:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from CHROMIUM ([165.21.74.3] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA16831 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 14:22:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by singnet.com.sg with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 03:21:02 +0800 Received: from mail pickup service by singnet.com.sg with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 02:22:00 +0800 Received: from xenon.singnet.com.sg - 165.21.74.26 by singnet.com.sg with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 06:11:21 +0800 Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (1@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.164.2]) by xenon.singnet.com.sg (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA28725 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 1998 06:07:55 +0800 (SST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id RAA27304; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:02:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (bulk_mailer v1.5+); Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:02:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA27284 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:02:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA27278 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:02:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA26028; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:09:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA26024 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:09:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA26010; Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:09:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199803282109.QAA26010@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Mark Donnelly cc: Andras Kadinger , Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] We're doing benchmarks (tips, tricks, help, info) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 28 Mar 1998 14:27:15 CST." Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:09:29 -0500 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Mark Donnelly > To: Andras Kadinger > It uses the file extensions mapping in the > AppleVolumes file to provide a filetype/creator automatically. (and then > caches that to disk). Actually, it only caches certain information to disk. In particular, it avoids caching the type and creator, so that they can be changed in the extension map. > Even when the .AppleDouble resource file does exist, you're talking about > at least two separate file accesses to look at one file. On the other > hand, the Mac doubtless has optimizations in the OS to speed up the way > that it access data/resource forks. I don't think there's a big lose on file reads and writes. There is, however, a big lose on enumerates (the AFP equivalent of Unix 'ls'). In this case, afpd must open the AppleDouble header file for each file in the directory. Very expensive, especially if the directory is NFS or AFS mounted. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 30 18:33:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA08067 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 18:33:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA08039 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 18:33:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA24488 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:10:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA20205; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:10:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA20195 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:10:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from argonaut.w3-design.com (argonaut.w3-design.com [209.85.7.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA20185 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:10:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from la.usweb.com (jeff@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA20197; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 12:12:32 -0800 Message-ID: <351FFCAF.97AD6448@la.usweb.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:12:31 +0000 From: Jeff Wiegley Organization: USWeb Los Angeles X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Sawyer CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Dumb newbie question about groups on linux References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Scott Sawyer wrote: > > How do you set up different sharing groups and make netatalk show them as > options in the Chooser to connect to. I've gotten netatalk installed and > working but only at the User level and am about to install a VAR server > 3000 from VA Research and I have yet to figure out groups. Where am I > sucking. The way we do it here is: make a new group in /etc/group, lets call it newgroup for now... add all the user's usernames to this group that you want to allow access to the share we will create in a second. Such a line in the /etc/group file looke like this for us... newgroup::102:dopey,sneezy,grumpy,doc,bashful,happy,sleepy then you create the actual directory where all their shared files will exist... mkdir /home/newgroupshare then change the ownership and permissions for this directory... chgrp newuser /home/newgroupshare chmod 6755 /home/newgroupshare then add this directory to the /etc/AppleVolumes.default file... restart the netatalk server and you should now be able to see this share when you connect to the server. Your users should be able to log on with their normal username and password. For security reasons (don't want root owning a lot of stuff that users have access to) I also do the following... create a user named "newgroup" and prevent any logins for it with a password set to "*". I add the user newgroup to the newgroup group in /etc/group and I use: chown newgroup.newgroup /home/newgroupshare this way the entire share is owned by something other than root. By setting the mod to 6755 the share has the suid and sgid bits set and this means that when users create folders and files they will be created as owned by them but with the group the same as the parent directory. Thus everyone in the group can access the files. The latest asun patches handle propogating the sgid bit correctly now. so make sure you have the latest asun patches installed. - Jeff From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 30 18:33:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA08096 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 18:33:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA08057 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 18:33:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA25099 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:25:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA26721; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:25:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA26719 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:25:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA26701 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:25:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA15675; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:25:06 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:25:05 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Kostas Gewrgiou cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] ASun's AFP/TCP patches In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Kostas Gewrgiou wrote: > Are the macos8 bug present in netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 ? the patch for > 1.4b2 doesn't work since the code has changed. The README.ASUN doesn't mention > anything about this bug. Yes - it has been fixed since 2.0a7 or thereabouts. -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 Microsoft - because god hates us From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 30 18:33:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA08110 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 18:33:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA08070 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 18:33:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA25347 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:35:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA25686; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:35:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA25672 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:35:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA25649 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 15:35:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA15710; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:35:47 +0100 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 21:35:46 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Scott Sawyer cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Dumb newbie question about groups on linux In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu You'll probably find that the easiest way to do this is to edit /etc/AppleVolumes.default Edit this to contain a list of the paths that you want to show in the chooser. If you want to give the share point a different name from its path then put this in quotes on the same line after the path to the share point. On Mon, 30 Mar 1998, Scott Sawyer wrote: > How do you set up different sharing groups and make netatalk show them as > options in the Chooser to connect to. I've gotten netatalk installed and > working but only at the User level and am about to install a VAR server > 3000 from VA Research and I have yet to figure out groups. Where am I > sucking. > > Thank you for your time. > > Scott Sawyer > Office Automation Specialist Sr. > Northern Arizona University > Publication Services > phone: (520) 523-0084 > fax: (520) 523 0085 > > -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 Microsoft - because god hates us From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 30 19:59:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA12854 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:59:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA12849 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:59:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA18964; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:59:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id TAA18958 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:59:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from library.ucsf.edu (apollo.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA18923 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 19:59:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (windy.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.85]) by library.ucsf.edu (8.8.7/8.7.5) with SMTP id QAA29435 for <@athena:netatalk-admins@umich.edu>; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 16:56:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (han@localhost) by windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA27872 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:04:11 -0800 Message-Id: <199803310104.RAA27872@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris2.6 + netatalk+asun Date: Mon, 30 Mar 1998 17:04:11 -0800 From: Michael M Han Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello all. I know that someone has an answer to this but I've never been able to find it in the archives or FAQs (including the Solaris FAQ). I'm *still* having trouble with the STREAMS module. Could someone please clue me in on what I'm missing here? This is how far I've gotten with the installation: 1) Get netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 source 2) Get netatalk-971027 source 3) Compile netatalk-971027 with 'make' 4) Do a 'make kinstall' from netatalk-971027 5) Compile netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 with -DNEW_STREAMS_MODULE in the DEFS line of src_root/sys/solaris/Makefile 6) 'make install' from netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 If anything up to this point is wrong, I'm open to corrections. However, this much does seem to have been correct based on various mails and FAQs and readmes I've read. Anyway, even with this setup, I'm getting a message in syslog when /etc/init.d/atalk tries to start up: NOTICE: tpi_wput M_PCPROTO 0x9 atalkd seems to create a child process which hangs interminably. This causes 'atalk start' to hang also, waiting for atalkd to finish up. Any ideas on what I've done wrong or simply not done? I know there are happy people with non-buggy Solaris STREAMS modules out there... I'd be happy to summarize my results for the list (perhaps inclusion in the Solaris FAQ). _____ Michael Han (han@library.ucsf.edu) voice: (415) 502-7542 Interactive Learning Center Consultant (415) 476-4309 San Francisco, California 94143-0840 fax: (415) 476-4653 Be nice to your mean streak; it's your only friend. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Mar 30 23:11:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id XAA18569 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:11:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA18564 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:11:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id XAA19699; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:11:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id XAA19694 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:11:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA19682 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 23:11:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id UAA25957; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:11:08 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <0000152E.sm@h-e.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] enumaration optimization/trash can problem... Date: Mon, 30 Mar 98 19:43:05 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: mail-atalk@fizbin.com (Harry Zink) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 3849 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Mon, 30 Mar 1998 20:11 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Original message sent on Sun, Mar 29 12:46 AM by mail-atalk@fizbin.com (Harry Zink) : > What worries me on a different level is the 'trash can' problem, which > could be a permissions issue, but could probably be very easily resolved > by s a slight change in the code. The fix probably will turn out to be very simple, however I don't think it is a permissions problem. Any client can create the first trash folder, "Trash Can #2", if there are no existing "Trash Can #xx" folders at all. The problem occurs when a client needs to create a second folder. This rules out an obvious permissions problem; it is possible for the client to create the folder, it just doesn't. A few attempts to debug this with "afpd -d" confirm that, I can see no errors or other indications of why the client doesn't create the folder, as far as I can tell it doesn't even try! > Instead of creating 'trash folder #xx', why not just create folders > labeled 'trash can folder_username_xx'? It isn't up to afpd what the trash folders are called, the Mac client names them. As far as afpd is concerned the trash is just a bunch of ordinary folders, there is no special handling of trash issues in the server code, everything is handled by the client. This is why the trash should just work, and why the problem is so mysterious. Anyway, the reason that the work-around works is that the client goes looking in "Network Trash Folder" for a pre-existing "Trash Can #xx" that it can write to; I think it does this in case there is one left over from a previous session that wasn't closed gracefully (i.e. the client Mac crashed). Whatever the reason, because it does this, making sure that the "Trash Can #xx" folders always already exist works around the problem. > That way, each logged in user definitely creates and gets a unique trash > can assigned to them. The only problem I see is when you have a user > logged in multiple times (a possible situation), and you end up with > multiple trashcans for the same user... this could lead to deletion > nightmares. Each connected client should have a separate and exclusive trash, regardless of user identity. If several clients share a trash folder, any one of them can empty the trash and thus delete files put there by somebody else, which defeats the whole concept of the trash. Note, however, that this doesn't work with netatalk 1.4b2 because the protocol involves byte-range locks on the file "Trash Can Usage Map", and 1.4b2 it doesn't implement byte-range locks (and to answer the obvious question, no, this doesn't have anything to do with the problem of creating the folders, the locks don't happen until after a folder is created). This is a potential problem with the work-around method if you are running 1.4b2 and have multiple clients connected as the same user. 1.4b2+asun might fix this, Adrian says byte-range locks work in his patches, but I haven't tested it. Hope this helps! Bob From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 31 02:36:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id CAA12621 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 02:36:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id CAA12614 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 02:36:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id CAA14137; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 02:36:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id CAA14135 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 02:36:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from ws142.spray.fi (ws142.spray.fi [195.10.150.142]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id CAA14124 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 02:36:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from oa@localhost) by ws142.spray.fi (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA06881; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:36:20 +0300 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Question on usage/compilation. References: From: Osma Ahvenlampi Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 31 Mar 1998 10:36:20 +0300 In-Reply-To: Brian Bergstrand's message of Mon, 30 Mar 1998 09:39:54 -0600 Message-ID: Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Brian Bergstrand writes: > Have you applied the RedHat 5 patch yet? There is something wrong > with the RPM binary that RedHat made, apply the patch and retry, > or download the latest asun source and compile it yourself. There's an RPM in redhat's contrib directory named netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2-oa1.???.rpm. This is the latest asun source configured for RHL5. Contains one known problem, netatalk syslog messages are logged under pam_pwdb name instead of netatalk, but otherwise it works fine. -- With clothes the new are best, with friends the old are best. Osma Ahvenlampi From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 31 08:03:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA03878 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:03:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA03874 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:03:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA18092; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:03:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA18085 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:03:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg (ss01444.singnet.com.sg [165.21.55.114]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA18078 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:03:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (khoogc@localhost) by daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA02835 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:03:58 +0800 X-Authentication-Warning: daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg: khoogc owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:03:57 +0800 (SGT) From: KHOO Guan Chen X-Sender: khoogc@daisy To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] ftp over netatalk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I have a RedHat 4.2 box successfully running netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 as a server for my powermac 6100 with OS 8.0. I want to ftp/telnet from the mac to the linux box, but am not succeeding. I have added the lines in.ftpd:ALL and in.telnetd:ALL to /etc/hosts.allow and made sure that the ftp and telnet lines in /etc/inetd.conf are not commented out, but when I run Fetch 3.0 from the mac, I get something like connection refused. Telnet gives me something like host not responding. Anybody can tell me what to do? I have the standard install so that /home/ftp, etc exits. I realise this may be off topic but nobody from RH list responded. Thanks. Richard KHOO Guan Chen e-mail: khoogc@singnet.com.sg snail-mail: 38-A, Lorong 23, Geylang, Singapore 388372 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 31 08:11:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA04234 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:11:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA04227 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:11:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA00998; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:11:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA00996 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:11:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.zao.or.jp (mail.zao.or.jp [210.132.55.227]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA00986 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:10:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.4] ([210.132.55.226]) by mail.zao.or.jp (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA04639 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:09:01 +0900 Date: 31 Mar 98 22:10:52 +0000 Subject: [netatalk-admins] NT4 destroy atalkd?! From: "kazunori miura" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello! ALL Thank you for answer to my question "netatalk over IP-masqurade". Now , I can mount remote volume over IP-masurade via PPP:-). BUT, another problem is arriving. There is NT4 server inside of IP-masqurade. NT4 and Linux-Box (IP-masqurading) serve files for Mac on same zone. netatalk is seed zone "Yea Parking" and NT4 routing AppleTalk. Problem is NT4 destroying atalkd. When NT4 is routing AppleTalk ,atalkd goes down. (I made certain of this affair, disconnect NT4 from network) message file Mar 31 16:10:30 ns atalkd[566]: zone_bcast Yes Parking^?^Q exists Mar 31 16:10:30 ns atalkd[566]: zip_packet: zone_bcast Mar 31 16:10:30 ns atalkd[566]: ap->ap_packet: Unknown error netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17 RedHat 4.2 kernel 2.0.31 NT4 Server SP1 Is this known problem ? ----------------------------- kazunori miura zao-net yamagata prefecture ----------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 31 08:43:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA05471 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:43:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA05465 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:43:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA12835; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:43:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA12833 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:43:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA12827 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:43:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id PAA07554 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:43:40 +0200 Message-ID: <3520E429.709A6B0E@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 14:40:09 +0200 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NT4 destroy atalkd?! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu kazunori miura wrote: > Problem is NT4 destroying atalkd. > When NT4 is routing AppleTalk ,atalkd goes down. [...] > Is this known problem ? When a seed router tries to come up, it checks, if it's configuration agrees with the other routers on the network. If it finds conflicts, it shuts down (it has to, as per appletalk requirements). Make sure, that the configuration (zone names, network ranges, etc.) agrees between atalkd and the NT. The 'unknown error' is interesting though. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 31 09:58:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA08022 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:58:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA08014 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:57:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA13423; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:57:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA13411 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:57:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from icompute.com ([209.46.51.194]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA13405 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:57:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from [209.46.51.196] by icompute.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.0); Tue, 31 Mar 1998 09:01:48 -0600 X-Sender: donlee_in@icompute.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 08:58:47 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: donlee_nat@mailhost.icompute.com (Donald Lee) Subject: [netatalk-admins] Localtalk on Mac IIci? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm running netatalk 1.4b2 on a Mac IIci under NetBSD 1.3. I've been trying to set up my machine as a router between ethernet and localtalk. As far as I can tell, localtalk on the printer port is not supported by the NetBSD 1.3 kernel, nor by netatalk. Could someone either verify this, or point me to a resource or two that might help me set it up? Thanks in advance, -dgl- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 31 10:23:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA09169 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:23:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA09164 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:23:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA23791; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:23:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA23766 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:23:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from oz.plymouth.edu (oz.plymouth.edu [158.136.1.100]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA23709 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:23:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.plymouth.edu (finite.plymouth.edu [158.136.75.171]) by oz.plymouth.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19050; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:23:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <35210A79.9F0C2B9A@mail.plymouth.edu> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:25:48 -0500 From: Casey Bisson Reply-To: cbisson@oz.plymouth.edu Organization: Information Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu CC: John Sutton Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] odd saving behavior References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ClarisWorks and PageMaker are the two most widely used applications for my users. I think I remember some discussion concerning persistant file/folder IDs, and an upcoming netatlk version that supported them. Is this in the works? What can a non-programmer like myself do to help? What steps can be taken to prevent the problem when using ClarisWorks? Are there other applications that are notoriously effected by the problem? Thank you Casey Bisson Information Technology Plymouth State College John Sutton wrote: > Sounds like the "persistent file id's" (lack of!) problem. It may be > relevant for you to detail which applications the users concerned are > having problems with. > > I have problems with Eudora and ClarisWorks which effectively render > netatalk unusable except for a techie (such as myself) who can understand > something of what is going on behind the scenes and take appropriate > corrective action when necessary.... From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 31 11:33:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA13130 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:33:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA13123 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:33:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA09114 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:22:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA10179; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:22:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA10151 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:22:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA10071 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 10:22:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA05978; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:22:20 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:22:20 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: KHOO Guan Chen cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] ftp over netatalk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is not really netatalk-related... Are you sure that when you connect to the server by AppleShare you are using TCP/IP and not Appletalk. Are the two machines on the same subnet? Can you ping one machine from the other? On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, KHOO Guan Chen wrote: > I have a RedHat 4.2 box successfully running netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 > as a server for my powermac 6100 with OS 8.0. > > I want to ftp/telnet from the mac to the linux box, but am not succeeding. > I have added the lines in.ftpd:ALL and in.telnetd:ALL to /etc/hosts.allow > and made sure that the ftp and telnet lines in /etc/inetd.conf are not > commented out, but when I run Fetch 3.0 from the mac, I get something like > connection refused. Telnet gives me something like host not responding. > > Anybody can tell me what to do? I have the standard install so that > /home/ftp, etc exits. > > I realise this may be off topic but nobody from RH list responded. -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 Microsoft - because god hates us From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 31 12:37:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA18486 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:37:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA18469 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:37:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA10780; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:37:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA10765 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:37:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from iglou.com (iglou1.iglou.com [192.107.41.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id MAA10756 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:37:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from gateway.cre8tivegroup.com [204.255.227.92] by iglou.com with esmtp (8.7.3/8.6.12) id 0yK4ye-0006MY-00; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:37:37 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:38:21 -0500 (EST) Organization: The Creative Group From: Patrick Gardella To: (Donald Lee) Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] Localtalk on Mac IIci? Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On the Apple side, you have to choose whether you want Appletalk to run on the Localtalk or the Ethernet networks. Several Companies offer a bridge to tie the two together, but none are free. Apple lets you have a bridge for a LaserWriter, and it *is* free. But to tie the localtalk network with the ethernet, I have not been able to do. Localtalk being the localtalk adapters on the printer port. I just moved all my stuff to my BSD machine and let the Mac connect to them. Wish I could help more... Patrick On 31-Mar-98 Donald Lee wrote: > I'm running netatalk 1.4b2 on a Mac IIci under NetBSD 1.3. I've been > trying to set up my machine as a router between ethernet and localtalk. > > As far as I can tell, localtalk on the printer port is not supported by the > NetBSD 1.3 kernel, nor by netatalk. > > Could someone either verify this, or point me to a resource or two > that might help me set it up? > > Thanks in advance, > > -dgl- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 31 12:56:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA19798 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:56:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA19792 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:56:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA19766; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:56:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA19751 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:56:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from phibes.dartmouth.edu (phibes.dartmouth.edu [129.170.18.45]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA19727 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:56:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from phibes.dartmouth.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phibes.dartmouth.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA09784 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:56:03 -0500 Message-Id: <199803311756.MAA09784@phibes.dartmouth.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Scaling issues Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:56:03 +22306256 From: Pat Wilson Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I asked a similar question back in January, and apparently didn't get any answers... How big are other folks' netatalk installations? We're primarily concerned with the filesharing aspects (rather than printing) - as a heavily Mac'd campus, we see a *lot* of use on our current in-house Mac-only fileserver, and a replacement will have to perform at least in the ballpark. For the larger sites - how many simulataneous connections can a netatalk machine support? What hardware do you use? Do you have multiple servers and do load-balancing (either by having different users use different servers, or by some automagic scheme)? Thanks. Pat Wilson paw@dartmouth.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 31 13:00:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA20206 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:00:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA20200 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:00:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA21486; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA21483 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:00:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from scconsult.com (sc1.scconsult.com [206.196.119.105]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id NAA21448 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:00:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from [206.196.119.105] ([206.196.119.105] verified) by scconsult.com (Stalker SMTP Server 1.6) with ESMTP id S.0000031921 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 12:00:07 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <352008AA.5D9F6F11@mail.plymouth.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:57:10 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Bill Stewart-Cole Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] odd saving behavior Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 4:08 PM -0600 3/30/98, John Sutton wrote: > Sounds like the "persistent file id's" (lack of!) problem. It may be > relevant for you to detail which applications the users concerned are > having problems with. > > I have problems with Eudora and ClarisWorks which effectively render > netatalk unusable except for a techie (such as myself) who can understand > something of what is going on behind the scenes and take appropriate > corrective action when necessary. > > Not wishing to be (too) provocative here, I have to ask: Does anybody use > netatalk successfully in a "real world" environment? Is there some other world? I guess the answer has to be yes. Non-techies use our netatalk-shared directories all the time, and I even have Samba sharing the same directories for Windows users. It is second nature for everyone. The only chronic problem is finessing the added pleasure of having mirror work its magic on one directory as a bidirectional synch tool. [1] >And if yes, how do > they do it? Guidelines please... :-) Get the permissions stuff right. I can't say what is right for your environment, but I guarantee that getting permissions wrong will make you crazy because you will end up with all sorts of mysterious oddities. It's not something that can be easily 'cookbooked' because everyone has different security needs and ease-of-use needs. It needs to be thought out carefully with an eye to your specific situation, and if you don't understand the interactions between umasks, directory permissions, and how netatalk maps Unix to AFP permissions, you will be very sad. [1] This is rather off-topic, but does anyone know of a decent way to bidirectionally synch directories on 2 Linux machines across a longish stretch of the Internet where using rsh and its evil relatives is unacceptable? Mirror is workable with a sufficiently convoluted config, but it really is not made for the task. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 31 15:48:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA01374 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:48:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA01364 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:48:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA00417 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:28:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA28007; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:28:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA28000 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:28:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from user.baden-online.de (user.baden-online.de [195.238.152.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA27847 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:28:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by user.baden-online.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id WAA29001 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:27:51 +0200 Received: from [192.168.59.2] (powermac.pocnet.net [192.168.59.2]) by leela.pocnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA26182 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:07:43 +0200 X-Sender: poc@leela.pocnet.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:07:36 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] Localtalk on Mac IIci? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >On the Apple side, you have to choose whether you want Appletalk to run on the >Localtalk or the Ethernet networks. Several Companies offer a bridge to tie >the two together, but none are free. Apple lets you have a bridge for a >LaserWriter, and it *is* free. You could use the older LocalTalk bridge, which works fine even under new system software releases and alows to use much more than just a LaserWriter over LocalTalk. :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 31 16:14:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA03130 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:14:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA03122 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:14:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA22362; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:14:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA22310 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:14:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from iglou.com (iglou2.iglou.com [192.107.41.17]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id QAA22287 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:14:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from gateway.cre8tivegroup.com [204.255.227.92] by iglou.com with esmtp (8.7.3/8.6.12) id 0yK8L4-0005r1-00; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:12:58 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:12:23 -0500 (EST) Organization: The Creative Group From: Patrick Gardella To: Patrik Schindler Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] Localtalk on Mac IIci? Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is the Localtalk bridge availible on the Apple site? Or where can I get it? That would be wonderful! Patrick On 31-Mar-98 Patrik Schindler wrote: >>On the Apple side, you have to choose whether you want Appletalk to run on >>the >>Localtalk or the Ethernet networks. Several Companies offer a bridge to tie >>the two together, but none are free. Apple lets you have a bridge for a >>LaserWriter, and it *is* free. > > You could use the older LocalTalk bridge, which works fine even under new > system software releases and alows to use much more than just a LaserWriter > over LocalTalk. > >:wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 31 16:47:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA05323 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:47:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA05301 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:47:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA25454; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:47:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA24975 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:46:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA24900 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:46:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with SMTP id NAA17244; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:46:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 13:46:01 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: Donald Lee cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Localtalk on Mac IIci? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Donald Lee wrote: > I'm running netatalk 1.4b2 on a Mac IIci under NetBSD 1.3. I've been > trying to set up my machine as a router between ethernet and localtalk. > > As far as I can tell, localtalk on the printer port is not supported by the > NetBSD 1.3 kernel, nor by netatalk. netatalk would support it if NetBSD did. Unfortunatly we don't at the moment. It's on my to-do list, but finishing grad school this spring is a little higher. :-) Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 31 18:31:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA17591 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA17582 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:31:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA00957; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:31:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA00949 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:31:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA00932 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:31:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id PAA26906; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:31:07 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <00001538.sm@h-e.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] odd saving behavior Date: Tue, 31 Mar 98 15:21:29 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: john@scl.co.uk (John Sutton) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 3986 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 15:31 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Original message sent on Mon, Mar 30 2:08 PM by john@scl.co.uk (John Sutton) : > Not wishing to be (too) provocative here, I have to ask: Does anybody use > netatalk successfully in a "real world" environment? And if yes, how do > they do it? Guidelines please... :-) I'm using netatalk 1.4b2 as the primary file server for two departments, one with 8 people who use it mostly as a way to get files from Linux to the Mac, the other with 4 people who do graphics work with 2-4MB files opened/saved off the server constantly. I've had to do quite a bit of tinkering with netatalk, but I currently have it working nearly as well as the old AppleShare 4.2.1 server it replaced (better, when you consider that it is nearly 2x as fast and I only have 1 machine to back up instead of 2). The only remaining problem is the "persistent file ID" limitation, and I have been able to come up with work-arounds for that. The main trick depends on the fact that aliases of regular files on netatalk volumes will always work despite the ID problem. Aliases of folders, and "remembered" locations within applications, usually don't work. So the work-around usually involves making a folder on a local hard drive and pointing the application to that folder rather than one directly on the netatalk volume, and then putting aliases of the real files on the netatalk volume in that local folder. The application can find the folder with no trouble since it is on the hard drive, and when it opens the "files" in it, the OS resolves the file aliases correctly even though the IDs on the netatalk volume are different. Sometimes it is necessary to first create the local folder with real files in it, and go through a setup procedure in the application that "points" it to those files, then once that is done, replace the files with aliases of the same name that point to files on the netatalk volume. But so far something along these lines has worked in every case that has come up. Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 31 19:45:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA22749 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:45:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA22745 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:44:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA20559; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:44:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA20243 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:43:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from boa.home.loc (pppasc111.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de [129.70.37.111]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA19936 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:42:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from pink@localhost) by boa.home.loc (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA07077; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 02:42:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19980401024230.07426@localhost> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 02:42:30 +0200 From: bsieker@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] odd saving behavior Reply-To: bsieker@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de Mail-Followup-To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu References: <00001538.sm@h-e.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.90.3i In-Reply-To: <00001538.sm@h-e.com>; from bsmith@h-e.com on Tue, Mar 31, 1998 at 03:21:29PM -0800 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Original message sent on Mon, Mar 30 2:08 PM by john@scl.co.uk (John Sutton) : > Not wishing to be (too) provocative here, I have to ask: Does anybody use > netatalk successfully in a "real world" environment? And if yes, how do > they do it? Guidelines please... :-) I am sysadmin for a small multimedia company and run a linux fileserver which servers the shared partitions via nfs to other Linux computers (only one so far), via samba to Windows NT and Windows 95 PCs and via netatalk (1.4b2) to a PowerMacintosh. So far it has performed flawlessly, after overcoming initial problems with the shadow password. It runs on Linux 2.0.33 on a Pentium 166 (no MMX), a Adaptec AHA2940U and SMC Ultra 10MBps and SMC EtherPower PCI 100MBps. It also serves as a printer server for a HP LaserJet 6MP, which is also used to print directly from the Linux computer The only problem I experience is that printing binary data from QuarkXpress and Freehand does not work. Printing from Photoshop and printing documents from Quark and Freehand that do not contain binary EPS is also ok (TIFF is fine, too). The network setup is quite heterogeneous, One 10MBps ethernet (BNC) connecting a PC (486, running Win95 and Linux), the server and, via a small HUB, the Mac; and a 100MBps Net between the server and the NT Workstation, which is used for Video digitizing and editing. Every user can import his $HOME from the UNIX workstation and a shared partition with the "sticky" bit set, so that everyone can write to it and create new files but no-one can erase other user's files. -- Bernd Sieker From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 31 20:23:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA24102 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:23:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA24098 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:23:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA07820; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:23:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA07813 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:23:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.nmc.siu.edu (orion.nmc.siu.edu [131.230.35.1]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA07797 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 20:23:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fleming@localhost) by orion.nmc.siu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.4) id TAA22978 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:23:30 -0600 From: "Paul M. Fleming" Message-Id: <199804010123.TAA22978@orion.nmc.siu.edu> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Speed Testing To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 19:23:30 +6600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Ok. Enough about the debate of ASIP vs AppleTalk vs Netatalk vs AppleShare vs blah blah. I broke down and did some speed testing of my own to evaluate our current servers and a proposed replacement server for our old DX4-100. I've posted the results, they are not complete, but are a start. I plan on running more tests under load from 1 - 20 clients. To see how things work then. I have the raw data and an excel spreadsheet if anyone is interested. Test Results can be found at: http://www.nmc.siu.edu/~fleming/speed.html My next step is to run the bonnie disk benchmarking program on each machine to have that to compare against. For those not familiar, bonnie is a unix c program that does very good hard drive tests, it's a good indicator of how well the OS and drive sub system handle LOTS of disks accesses. More as it comes available Paul Fleming New Media Center Southern Illinois University Carbondale IL 62901 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 31 22:18:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA26684 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:18:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id WAA26676; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:18:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id WAA26674 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:18:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA26667 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:18:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199804010318.WAA26667@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: evan.cordes@umich.edu To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:18:17 -0500 X-Sender: epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu netatalk-admins, The problems we were experiencing with majordomo earlier in the month have been resolved. Thanks for everyone who helped, but most importantly, a round of applause goes to your fellow list member: Andras Kadinger - bandit@freeside.elte.hu Andras spotted a loop in our mailing list that caused messages to be re-wrapped and processed as commands, and those messages were then bounced back to the poster. I have tuned majordomo up a bit, and hopefully things like this won't happen so easily. In diving into majordomo's docs, I found digesting help, so I'll set that up sometime soon. I know several people have expressed interest. Please keep us informed of anything that looks suspicious coming from our lists. Majordomo problems and spam, in particular. Hopefully, this will be the most *noise* you'll see for awhile. Thanks, Evan - netatalk-admins-admin From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 31 22:30:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA27575 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:30:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA27570 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:30:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA04484 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:30:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA18430; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:29:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA18416 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:29:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA18381 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:29:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA10559; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:29:32 +0100 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:29:31 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Patrick Gardella cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] Localtalk on Mac IIci? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu It comes with Open Transport 1.1.x (downloadable from any of Apple's ftp servers). The current version is 2.1. Let me know if you want me to mail you a copy to save the download... On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Patrick Gardella wrote: > Is the Localtalk bridge availible on the Apple site? Or where can I get it? > > That would be wonderful! -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 Microsoft - because god hates us From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 31 22:30:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA27599 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:30:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA27577 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:30:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA09580 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:26:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA20057; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:26:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA20046 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:26:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from docws001.shl.com (docws001.shl.com [159.249.56.252]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA20039 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 17:26:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from shl.com (astmax3-247.mcit.com [166.35.65.247]) by docws001.shl.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA27074 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 16:22:56 -0600 Message-ID: <35216DA4.A959A5A9@shl.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:26:44 +0000 From: Christopher Sharp Reply-To: csharp@cadence.com Organization: MCI Systemhouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Access Authentication under MacOS 8.x Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Even after creating a special "atalk" account with a password "atalk123" I can't get afpd to grant me access other than guest under MacOS 8.0 and netatalk 1.4b2. Any ideas or settings you would check? Your help is appreciated. Christopher Sharp From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Mar 31 22:43:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA28850 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:43:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA28841 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:43:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA18141; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:43:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA18136 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:43:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA18118 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:43:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bandit@localhost) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with SMTP id FAA13725; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 05:43:30 +0200 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 05:43:29 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andras Kadinger To: Christopher Sharp cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Access Authentication under MacOS 8.x In-Reply-To: <35216DA4.A959A5A9@shl.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Christopher, On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Christopher Sharp wrote: > Even after creating a special "atalk" account with a password "atalk123" > I can't get afpd to grant me access other than guest under MacOS 8.0 and > netatalk 1.4b2. > > Any ideas or settings you would check? If you can log in but do not see any volumes to choose from, then check the permissions on your /etc/AppleVolumes.* files. If this is not the case, then please describe further as to what exactly do you experience. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 1 01:34:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id BAA04422 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:34:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA04414 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:34:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id BAA27465; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:34:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id BAA27459 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:34:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA27452 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:34:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-77.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.77]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA18911 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:35:49 -0800 Message-Id: <199804010735.XAA18911@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Some BIG problems with that asun RPM... Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:32:50 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Osma Ahvenlampi posted the information about the Red Hat RPM for asun's a18 available, so I grabbed it, and installed it on the machine I plan to use for benchmarkings. Disaster! While the install seemed to progress cleanly, and the machine showed up nicely on the network, there are some critical problems when copying files to it: * When creating a new folder, I get the message "You can not create the folder 'FolderName' on the disk 'DiskName' because you do not have enough access privileges'. Yet, upon acknowledging the dialog box, it creates the folder... Go figure. * When copying a folder into that area, it promptly takes ALL items from within that folder, and throws them all over the root of the user folder. Needless to say, this ain't alltogether good, and wouldn't look good to the critical eyes of the IS execs that are already critical of Linux. Damn! Any help? Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 1 01:44:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id BAA04968 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:44:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA04963 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:44:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id BAA29091; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:44:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id BAA29088 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:44:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA29084 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:44:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-23.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.23]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA19062 for ; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:45:46 -0800 Message-Id: <199804010745.XAA19062@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] False Alarm (asun RPM) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:42:47 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Whew! Sorry for the alarming panic message. It turns out the user I logged in as had permissions set incorrectly. Creating a new user, and logging in under that name worked like a charm and yields good results. I can sleep peacefully now. (double-whew!) Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 1 01:45:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id BAA05118 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:45:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA05104 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:45:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id BAA26940; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:45:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id BAA26938 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:45:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA26934 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:45:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-23.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.23]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA19098; Tue, 31 Mar 1998 23:46:55 -0800 Message-Id: <199804010746.XAA19098@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Permission Settings on shared folder?? Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 22:43:56 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink To: "Pat Wilson" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu If I wanted to set up a shared folder, in addition to the individual user folders, how do I need to set the permissions on that folder? Thanks, Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 1 04:01:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA08464 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 04:01:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA08460 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 04:00:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id EAA13287; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 04:00:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id EAA13285 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 04:00:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from sparta.scl.co.uk (sparta.scl.co.uk [163.164.160.4]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA13281 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 04:00:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from janus.scl.co.uk (janus.scl.co.uk [163.164.164.50]) by sparta.scl.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA21016; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:00:21 +0100 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19980401090531.2cd79ad8@mail.scl.co.uk> X-Sender: john@mail.scl.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 09:05:31 +0000 To: Bill Stewart-Cole From: John Sutton Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] odd saving behavior Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 11:57 31/03/98 -0600, you wrote: >> Not wishing to be (too) provocative here, I have to ask: Does anybody use >> netatalk successfully in a "real world" environment? > >Get the permissions stuff right. I can't say what is right for your >environment, but I guarantee that getting permissions wrong will make you >crazy because you will end up with all sorts of mysterious oddities. It's >not something that can be easily 'cookbooked' because everyone has >different security needs and ease-of-use needs. It needs to be thought out >carefully with an eye to your specific situation, and if you don't >understand the interactions between umasks, directory permissions, and how >netatalk maps Unix to AFP permissions, you will be very sad. OK, I'll try that but am dubious that it's the real problem. My setup is _very_ simple, no shared directories or anything clever. Presumably if for testing purposes I just open up the whole netatalk tree with 777 mode, then that should suffice? >[1] This is rather off-topic, but does anyone know of a decent way to >bidirectionally synch directories on 2 Linux machines across a longish >stretch of the Internet where using rsh and its evil relatives is >unacceptable? Mirror is workable with a sufficiently convoluted config, >but it really is not made for the task. If rsh is unacceptable only because of the security implications, then use ssh (Secure Shell). This has all the same functionality (and more) but is _very_ secure. *************************************************** John Sutton SCL Computer Services URL http://www.scl.co.uk/ Tel. +44 (0) 1239 621021 *************************************************** From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 1 04:50:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA10120 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 04:50:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA10116 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 04:50:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA16639; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 04:50:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA16637 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 04:50:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from buffy.tpgi.com.au (buffy.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.34]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA16627 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 04:50:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by buffy.tpgi.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA30680; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:50:47 +1000 Received: from tar-ppp-164.tpgi.com.au(203.26.26.164), claiming to be "gretchen" via SMTP by buffy.tpgi.com.au, id smtpda30643; Wed Apr 1 19:50:36 1998 From: "Eddie Irvine" To: , "Pat Wilson" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Scaling issues Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:53:44 +1000 Message-ID: <01bd5d54$0ed63fc0$a41a1acb@gretchen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >How big are other folks' netatalk installations? We're primarily concerned >with the filesharing aspects (rather than printing) - as a heavily Mac'd >campus, we see a *lot* of use on our current in-house Mac-only fileserver, >and a replacement will have to perform at least in the ballpark. We have a site of 46 Macs, one brand new Mac fileserver (Appleshare IP 5) and netatalk on FreeBSD. A bit hard to compare the Mac with FreeBSD because the Mac's hardware is about three times as fast (3x more ram, SCCSI vs IDE etc) however if you want to speed things up on your network you can do what we did - use a netatalk box as a router to break your appletalk network into zones, and then use Appleshare in multi-homing mode. This makes a huge difference with 10baseT and modern hardware as it is really the network which is the bottle neck. This can give the best of both worlds. >For the larger sites - how many simulataneous connections can a netatalk >machine support? I think it defaults to 5, but there is a command line option to increase. Eddie. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 1 08:22:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA00292 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:22:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA00278 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:22:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA15603; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:22:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA15601 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:22:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from user.baden-online.de (user.baden-online.de [195.238.152.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA15597 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:22:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by user.baden-online.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id PAA08723; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:22:20 +0200 Received: from [192.168.59.2] (powermac.pocnet.net [192.168.59.2]) by leela.pocnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA02302; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:45:46 +0200 X-Sender: poc@leela.pocnet.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:45:33 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] Localtalk on Mac IIci? Cc: poc@reiff.de Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 16:12 Uhr -0500 31.03.1998, Patrick Gardella wrote: >Is the Localtalk bridge availible on the Apple site? Or where can I get it? Dunno. But I'll put the whole thing into ftp.baden-online.de under pub/mac/net. It's 765KBytes. Therefore I'll put a second archive there with only the control panel (15KBytes, it works with only dropping onto the system folder!!). If anyone get's the Installer to run (not the right disk-error), I'd be happy to get a copy of the Image. :-) >That would be wonderful! Okay, anybody helps each other :-) :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 1 08:28:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA00572 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:28:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA00560 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:28:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA14294; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:28:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA14277 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:28:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id IAA14269 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:28:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from majink1.itc.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa02354; 1 Apr 98 8:28 EST Received: from majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU (majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU [128.143.12.118]) by majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA14068 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:28:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199804011328.IAA14068@majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:28:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert J. Marinchick" Reply-To: "Robert J. Marinchick" Subject: [netatalk-admins] printers To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: F9uNZ94Yf81eg8LTmWTbrg== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4c sparc Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folks, We're having a slight problem with printer recognition. We're running 1.4b2 with asun's modifications (A18 - A18.2) on solaris 2.6. We've a number of Macs with varying os releases whose "chooser" will not show all the printers in a particular zone. Yet, "nbplkup" on my solaris, and an AppleTalk Manager on another Unix box show all the printers. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? Appreciate your response. Bob Marinchick rjm8m@virginia.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 1 12:09:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA08327 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 12:09:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA08321 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 12:09:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA07960 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:59:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA21680; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:59:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA21621 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:59:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from school.cs.indiana.edu (school.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.252.119]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA21551 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:58:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (brbothwe@localhost) by school.cs.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/IUCS_2.16) with SMTP id LAA04724 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:58:49 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: school.cs.indiana.edu: brbothwe owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:58:49 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Eric Bothwell To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Disapearing print jobs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Has anyone had any problems with print jobs (or random pages from print jobs) disappearing? Most of the time, everything seems to be fine, but users are complaining about missing pages on some of their print jobs. The printer is an HP Laserjet 6MP, attached to a WinNT box (and set up as a SMB printer using the standard Redhat printcfg tools). I don't think it is a SAMBA problem, as print jobs from Win95/NT machines to the same printer (via SAMBA) work fine. I check the logs and print queues and all seems in order. I am running netatalk netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2, under Redhat 5.0 (2.0.32) (as well as SAMBA 1.9.18p3) thanx -Brian From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 1 13:28:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA10748 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:28:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA10736 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:27:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA04570; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:27:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA04564 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:27:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hunter.softaware.com (hunter.hating.com [206.83.160.17]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA04551 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:27:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from neck@localhost) by hunter.softaware.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA30528; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:27:54 -0800 Message-ID: <19980401102754.18016@hunter.softaware.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:27:54 -0800 From: Mark Luntzel To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] [neck@hating.com: Solaris2.6 problems (mac problem?)] Reply-To: neck@hating.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1 X-Useless-Header: Look ma! It's a # sign! X-Beer: Guinness Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi - I've tried grep'ing the archives to no avail. I keep getting "the file "foo" couldn't be read, because it cannot be found. Do you want to continue copying?" then I press the continue button and then the file doesnt copy, neither mac -> solaris or solaris -> mac works. I'm using 1.4b2 with related patches applied. Hopefully I havent just overlooked something in the FAQ. the permissions on the dir are 777 and are in the same group as the connecting user. any help with this would be great, thanks. ----- End forwarded message ----- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 1 13:29:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA10819 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:29:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA10809 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:29:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA09266 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 12:30:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA04219; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 12:30:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA03674 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 12:28:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from school.cs.indiana.edu (school.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.252.119]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA03541 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 12:28:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (brbothwe@localhost) by school.cs.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/IUCS_2.16) with SMTP id MAA05339 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 12:28:29 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: school.cs.indiana.edu: brbothwe owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 12:28:28 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Eric Bothwell To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Disapearing print jobs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Some more late-breaking info: I was grilling some of the users to see what applications they are using, how they are printing, etc. and it seems that the problems seem to arise when two print jobs are send back-to-back. -brian From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 1 16:03:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA17318 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:03:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA17312 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:03:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA14898 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:47:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA10239; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:47:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA10237 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:47:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA10221 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 14:47:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA31288; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:47:31 +0100 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:47:31 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: "Robert J. Marinchick" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] printers In-Reply-To: <199804011328.IAA14068@majink1.itc.Virginia.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Robert J. Marinchick wrote: > We've a number of Macs with varying os releases whose "chooser" will > not show all the printers in a particular zone. Yet, "nbplkup" on my > solaris, and an AppleTalk Manager on another Unix box show all the printers. Are these printers talking AppleTalk directly, or are they using netatalk? It sounds like there could be something wrong with your network. Things like this can happen if you don't follow Ethernet specs especially the "5-4-3 rule". Also if you network is very heavily loaded. -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 Microsoft - because god hates us From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 1 16:03:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA17339 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:03:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA17321 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:03:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA15807 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:14:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA15858; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:14:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA15849 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:14:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA15835 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:14:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA31381 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:14:24 +0100 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:14:24 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Scaling issues In-Reply-To: <01bd5d54$0ed63fc0$a41a1acb@gretchen> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Eddie Irvine wrote: > however if you want to speed things up on your network you can do what we > did - > use a netatalk box as a router to break your appletalk network into zones, > and then > use Appleshare in multi-homing mode. This makes a huge difference with Unfortunately Macs cannot multihome with TCP-IP, only with AppleTalk. Netatalk should be able to take advantage of TCP-IP multihoming which is available in any Unix. -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 Microsoft - because god hates us From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 1 17:46:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA23182 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:46:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA23170 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:46:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA02960; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:46:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA02954 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:46:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from user.baden-online.de (user.baden-online.de [195.238.152.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA02934 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:46:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by user.baden-online.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id AAA15212 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 00:46:00 +0200 Received: from [192.168.59.2] (powermac.pocnet.net [192.168.59.2]) by leela.pocnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA14106 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 00:27:31 +0200 X-Sender: poc@leela.pocnet.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 00:21:26 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] Localtalk on Mac IIci? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 23:48 Uhr -0600 31.03.1998, Donald Lee wrote: >Where does one get such a thing? Oh, I don't remember when I downloaded it from Apple, but I burned me a CD and I have it. You'll find it on ftp.baden-online.de/pub/mac/net, one archive with only the cdev (with is enough to work) and one whole thing (which I haven't get to install via the installer). :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 1 18:21:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA24605 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:21:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA24601 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:21:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA07070; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:21:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA07068 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:21:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from library.ucsf.edu (apollo.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA07059 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:21:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (windy.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.85]) by library.ucsf.edu (8.8.7/8.7.5) with SMTP id PAA25535 for <@athena:netatalk-admins@umich.edu>; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:18:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (han@localhost) by windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id PAA01629 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:26:06 -0800 Message-Id: <199804012326.PAA01629@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] howto: solaris2.6 + asun18.2 Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 15:26:06 -0800 From: Michael M Han Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu As promised, I'm posting a howto for Solaris 2.6 users who want to use asun's patches. Note that this applies only until the next version of asun's patches become available, at which time (hopefully) Solaris installation will be a little easier. Until then, perhaps this could be added to the relevant FAQs? 1) Retrieve asun's source, preferably ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/public/asun/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2.tar.gz 2) Retrieve the latest Umich netatalk beta from ftp://terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu/pub/n-971027.tar.gz 3) Unpack your sources trees 4) `make` netatalk-971027 and `make kinstall` (no changes should be needed to the source) 5) Apply the setsockopt patch and the Solaris EAGAIN patch to the netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 source (see below) 6) Add the required DEFS= -DNEW_STREAMS_MODULE in sys/solaris/Makefile >From that point it's a straightforward installation. Add whatever options you need, comment out things you don't want/haven't got, and install. Patches: I'm including patches that work using the `patch` that came out of the box. If you have trouble applying the patches or such, just do it by hand. Here are the required patches in context format, produced by Solaris 2.6's diff. Watch out for line-wrapping... *** libatalk/asp/asp_getsess.c Wed Feb 18 11:35:16 1998 --- libatalk/asp/asp_getsess.c Thu Mar 26 17:41:04 1998 *************** *** 135,141 **** atpb.atp_rreqdata = asp->cmdbuf; atpb.atp_rreqdlen = sizeof( asp->cmdbuf ); while ( atp_rreq( asp->asp_atp, &atpb ) < 0 ) { ! if ( errno == EINTR ) { continue; } return( NULL ); --- 135,141 ---- atpb.atp_rreqdata = asp->cmdbuf; atpb.atp_rreqdlen = sizeof( asp->cmdbuf ); while ( atp_rreq( asp->asp_atp, &atpb ) < 0 ) { ! if ( errno == EINTR || errno == EAGAIN ) { continue; } return( NULL ); *** etc/atalkd/main.c Mon Dec 8 15:03:51 1997 --- etc/atalkd/main.c Wed Apr 1 14:18:00 1998 *************** *** 1233,1239 **** /* open ports */ i = 1; /* enable broadcasts */ #if defined(__svr4__) && !defined(NEW_STREAMS_MODULE) ! syslog(LOG_INFO, "setsockopt incompatible w/ Solaris STREAMS module."); #endif for ( ap = iface->i_ports; ap; ap = ap->ap_next ) { if (( ap->ap_fd = socket( AF_APPLETALK, SOCK_DGRAM, 0 )) < 0 ) { --- 1233,1239 ---- /* open ports */ i = 1; /* enable broadcasts */ #if defined(__svr4__) && !defined(NEW_STREAMS_MODULE) ! // syslog(LOG_INFO, "setsockopt incompatible w/ Solaris STREAMS module."); #endif for ( ap = iface->i_ports; ap; ap = ap->ap_next ) { if (( ap->ap_fd = socket( AF_APPLETALK, SOCK_DGRAM, 0 )) < 0 ) { *************** *** 1240,1246 **** syslog( LOG_ERR, "socket: %m" ); atalkd_exit( 1 ); } ! #if !defined(__svr4__) || defined(NEW_STREAMS_MODULE) setsockopt(ap->ap_fd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_BROADCAST, &i, sizeof(i)); #endif --- 1240,1246 ---- syslog( LOG_ERR, "socket: %m" ); atalkd_exit( 1 ); } ! #if !defined(__svr4__) setsockopt(ap->ap_fd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_BROADCAST, &i, sizeof(i)); #endif _____ Michael Han (han@library.ucsf.edu) voice: (415) 502-7542 Interactive Learning Center Consultant (415) 476-4309 San Francisco, California 94143-0840 fax: (415) 476-4653 "You don't like my rice?!?" From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 1 20:47:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA28208 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:47:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA28183 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:47:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id UAA21201; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:47:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id UAA21194 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:47:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from cyclops-e0.cogent.net (cyclops-e0.cogent.net [204.250.78.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA21185 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 20:47:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from tpsmlv.tps.org (p63.annex1.mfs.cogent.net [207.137.176.73]) by cyclops-e0.cogent.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA03870 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:53:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3522EEAD.41C67EA6@mars.planetary.org> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 17:49:33 -0800 From: Michael Lee Vazquez Organization: The Planetary Society X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Can't reg my machine with atalkd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hey guys, I can't for the life of me register my FreeBSD 2.2 machine with atalkd... this is what I get: % /usr/local/bin/nbprgstr -p 4 tpsmlv:Workstation nbp_rgstr: Operation timed out Can't register tpsmlv:Workstation@* /usr/local/bin/nbprgstr -p 4 tpsmlv:Workstation nbp_rgstr: Operation timed out Can't register tpsmlv:Workstation@* I can see everyone else with nbplkup, I deleted atalkd.conf and it regenerated a new one. I don't know what to do! I've looked around this mailing-list's archive for answers, but found none. Please, I'm going nuts here. Uhh, plus netatalk never worked on this machine, this is the 1st time installing it. Mike. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 1 21:41:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA29856 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:41:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA29852 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:41:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA03479; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:41:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA03477 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:41:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from sjc.erg.sri.com (sjc.erg.sri.com [128.18.5.100]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA03472 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:41:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from antelope.erg.sri.com by sjc.erg.sri.com (8.8.8/2.7davy) id SAA04675; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:40:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:41:18 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Arseneault To: csharp@cadence.com cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Access Authentication under MacOS 8.x In-Reply-To: <35216DA4.A959A5A9@shl.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu If your problem is the same as mine was, I needed to add my shell to the /etc/shells file (on Solaris2.5) worked fine after that. Here is my shells file: /bin/sh /usr/bin/sh /sbin/sh /bin/csh /usr/bin/csh /bin/ksh /usr/bin/ksh /bin/tcsh /usr/local/bin/tcsh /usr/local/etc/nologin Try it Tom Arseneault Sr. System Admin. SRI International arsen@erg.sri.com On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Christopher Sharp wrote: > Even after creating a special "atalk" account with a password "atalk123" > I can't get afpd to grant me access other than guest under MacOS 8.0 and > netatalk 1.4b2. > > Any ideas or settings you would check? > > Your help is appreciated. > > Christopher Sharp > > From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 2 07:20:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA07635 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:20:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA07631 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:20:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA20220; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:20:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA20217 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id HAA20160 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:20:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06509; Thu, 2 Apr 98 13:19:57 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:17:46 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from zaza (zaza.tees) by scorch; Thu, 2 Apr 98 11:40:20 BST Date: Thu, 2 Apr 98 11:36:25 BST Message-Id: <22592.9804021036@zaza> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Disapearing print jobs Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, > I was grilling some of the users.... Open flame? Hot plate? Barbecue? Inquiring minds whant to know! "you want fries with that?" sorry, couldn't resist :) later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 2 07:40:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA08322 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:40:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA08317 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:40:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id HAA05875; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:40:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id HAA05868 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:40:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from faust27-s.rz.uni-frankfurt.de (faust27-s.rz.uni-frankfurt.de [141.2.149.151]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id HAA05852 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:40:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from rz.uni-frankfurt.de by faust27-s.rz.uni-frankfurt.de id <53890-0@faust27-s.rz.uni-frankfurt.de>; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:39:51 +0000 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:39:50 +0200 (CST) From: "Robert O'Kane" To: Brian Eric Bothwell cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Disapearing print jobs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Host: vulpius.rz.uni-frankfurt.de Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Greetings, I've seen a simmilar problem with a pap-spooler(RIP) running on an NT box. When 2 (or more) apple users tried to send to the spooler at the same time, the NT box decided to do random things including dropping jobs / mixing jobs together / crashing NT!! We 'fixed' it by having all the apple users send to a linux server and then having the Linux box spool the jobs to the NT one at a time. With PAP this is easy with the ofwpap (?) link/hack. Ofcouse we are spooling to the NT server using pap. I havent used samba for printing but maybe this idea helps. Good luck, Robert O'Kane --------------------------------------------------- WHO : Robert O'Kane WHERE : Kunstlergruppe OTHERSPACE WHAT : "Founding Member" & Linker WHY : http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~okane HOW : okane@em.uni-frankfurt.de --------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Brian Eric Bothwell wrote: > > > Some more late-breaking info: > > I was grilling some of the users to see what applications they are using, > how they are printing, etc. and it seems that the problems seem to arise > when two print jobs are send back-to-back. > > -brian > > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 2 10:40:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA13740 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:40:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA13736 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA23674; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA23663 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:40:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from luxbbs.itserve.com ([209.4.104.131]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA23606 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:39:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from davidhspc.atlanta.itserve.com (festus.itserve.com [209.4.104.189]) by luxbbs.itserve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA31147 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:41:20 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-alpha-091997 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 10:39:39 -0500 (EST) Organization: Imaging Technologies From: David Hamm To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] routing and & yp Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Does netatalk support routing? I have a multiport network card with 4 ports I'd like to route netatalk over. If not then I will consider using nfs mounts and a workgroup server aproach if netatalk supports yp. ------ David Hamm - dhamm@itserve.com -------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 2 11:09:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA15331 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:09:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA15320 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:09:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA22835; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:09:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA22827 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:09:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA22809 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:09:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (vivek@malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by malkav.imaginet.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA11781 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:08:54 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:08:52 +0100 (BST) From: Vivek Reply-To: Vivek To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] tcpd.h Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi: I just tried compiling 1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 on Linux[2.0.33] and came up with dsi_tcp.c:27: tcpd.h: No such file or directory I've scanned through the debian package list, and don't see it mentioned anywhere: Anyone know where to get the bits I'm missing? [I did a find from root as root just in case... no luck] Apologies in advance if I've missed something obvious in the docs... -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 2 11:28:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA16592 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:28:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA16588 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:28:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA15834; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:27:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA15812 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:27:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from cheviot.ncl.ac.uk (cheviot.ncl.ac.uk [128.240.233.51]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA15785 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:27:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from bygate.ncl.ac.uk by cheviot.ncl.ac.uk id (8.7.6/ for ncl.ac.uk) with SMTP; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:27:25 +0100 (BST) Received: (ngmt@localhost) by bygate.ncl.ac.uk (8.6.7/8.6.x-cf revision 8 for SunOS 4.1.x) id RAA21452; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:27:24 +0100 From: "Gerry.Tomlinson" Message-Id: <199804021627.RAA21452@bygate.ncl.ac.uk> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Localtalk on Mac IIci? To: poc@pocnet.net (Patrik Schindler) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:27:23 +0100 (BST) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: from "Patrik Schindler" at Apr 2, 98 00:21:26 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > At 23:48 Uhr -0600 31.03.1998, Donald Lee wrote: > > >Where does one get such a thing? > > Oh, I don't remember when I downloaded it from Apple, but I burned me a CD and I have it. > You'll find it on ftp.baden-online.de/pub/mac/net, one archive with only the cdev (with is enough to work) and one whole thing (which I haven't get to install via the installer). > > :wq! PoC > > Are you sure you downloaded it? I've just seen a boxed copy in a colleague's office which he said he bought not long ago. Gerry. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 2 11:51:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA18233 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:51:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA18193 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:51:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA09914 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 08:37:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA09100; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 08:37:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA09072 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 08:37:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from sid.trust.ee (sid.trust.ee [194.204.23.180]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA08992 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 08:37:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from sid.trust.ee (wink.trust.ee [194.204.23.184]) by sid.trust.ee (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13630; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:36:16 +0300 Message-ID: <35239558.5D2F94FF@sid.trust.ee> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 16:40:40 +0300 From: Hannu Krosing X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Harry Zink CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Permission Settings on shared folder?? References: <199804010746.XAA19098@nucleus.fizbin.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Harry Zink wrote: > > If I wanted to set up a shared folder, in addition to the individual user > folders, how do I need to set the permissions on that folder? usually it is done by mkdir shared_folder chgrp user_group shared_folder chmod g+ws shared_folder then all files copied to or created in shared_folder will be owned by group user_group. the owner will still be the user who created them, but they will be accessible to others. Cheers, Hannu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 2 11:51:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA18251 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:51:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA18222 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:51:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA16319 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:24:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA29776; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:24:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA29761 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:24:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhub.hitchcock.org (MAILHUB.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.100]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id LAA29732 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:24:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailbox2.Hitchcock.ORG (MAILBOX2.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.142]) by mailhub.hitchcock.org (8.6.12-DND/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA24413; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:24:33 -0500 Message-id: <1363392@mailbox2.Hitchcock.ORG> Date: 02 Apr 98 11:24:33 EST From: William.P.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG (William P. McGonigle) Reply-To: Bill.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] tcpd.h To: vivek@imaginet.co.uk, netatalk-admins@umich.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --- Vivek wrote: dsi_tcp.c:27: tcpd.h: No such file or directory --- end of quote --- It's trying to compile support for tcp wrappers, which you probably don't have. Comment out the wrapper support, or even better, get yourself a copy of tcp wrappers. (I say this in theory - I still haven't figured out the right combination of entries in services, inetd.conf and afpd.conf to satisfy afpd and tcpdchk). -Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 2 11:51:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA18275 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:51:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA18246 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:51:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA17394 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:38:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA05155; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:38:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA05146 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:38:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA05027 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 11:38:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA03815; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:38:05 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:38:04 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Vivek cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] tcpd.h In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Read the bit in the docs about TCP wrappers and then comment it out in the Makefile. On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Vivek wrote: > > Hi: I just tried compiling 1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 on Linux[2.0.33] > and came up with > > dsi_tcp.c:27: tcpd.h: No such file or directory > > I've scanned through the debian package list, and don't see it mentioned > anywhere: Anyone know where to get the bits I'm missing? > > [I did a find from root as root just in case... no luck] > > Apologies in advance if I've missed something obvious in the docs... -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 Microsoft - because god hates us From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 2 12:14:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA21153 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:14:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA21148 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:14:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA19616; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:14:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA19614 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:14:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from library.ucsf.edu (athena.library.ucsf.EDU [128.218.33.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA19606 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:14:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (windy.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.85]) by library.ucsf.edu (8.8.7/8.7.5) with SMTP id JAA05868; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:11:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (han@localhost) by windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA02856; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:19:21 -0800 Message-Id: <199804021719.JAA02856@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> To: Bill.McGonigle@hitchcock.org cc: vivek@imaginet.co.uk, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] tcpd.h In-reply-to: Your message of "02 Apr 1998 11:24:33 EST." <1363392@mailbox2.Hitchcock.ORG> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 09:19:21 -0800 From: Michael M Han Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu You're having trouble configuring or compiling? Compiled great for me. And my sysadmin had already setup a fairly paranoid hosts.allow/hosts.deny which was just what I wanted. If you're having trouble configuring tcp wrappers, do 'man tcpd' and read the see-also's. Just verified that external hosts cannot connect to my advertised afp ports. Previously... >It's trying to compile support for tcp wrappers, which you probably don't have >Comment out the wrapper support, or even better, get yourself a copy of tcp >wrappers. > >(I say this in theory - I still haven't figured out the right combination of >entries in services, inetd.conf and afpd.conf to satisfy afpd and tcpdchk). _________ mike (han@library.ucsf.edu) Indian burns are not our cultural heritage - The collected wisdom of Bart Simpson From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 2 12:25:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA23283 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:25:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA23259 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:25:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA23860; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:25:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA23853 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:25:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from library.ucsf.edu (athena.library.ucsf.EDU [128.218.33.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA23843 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:25:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (windy.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.85]) by library.ucsf.edu (8.8.7/8.7.5) with SMTP id JAA06034; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:22:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (han@localhost) by windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA02899; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:30:13 -0800 Message-Id: <199804021730.JAA02899@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> To: "Jonathan R. Wilner" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] howto: solaris2.6 + asun18.2 (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Apr 1998 11:54:40 EST." Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 09:30:13 -0800 From: Michael M Han Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Previously... > Can I ask you some (probably dumb :-) ) questions? Why do you make >the kernel mode driver from the Umich Netatalk, rather than from the Asun >+ 1.4b2? Isn't it the same code? The kernel code (sys/solaris) is *not* the same in 1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 and 971027. 971027 is the "beta copy of a new STREAMS module" mentioned in README.ASUN. You install the STREAMS module from 971027 because it doesn't suffer the Solaris-specific problems that 1.4b2 (and as a result, 1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2) suffer. Note that 971027 isn't normally used by anyone and isn't even in a "normal" netatalk ftp directory. Just a quick note here, the new STREAMS driver works like a charm for me. Been up a couple days now and all is quiet in my syslog... That's always a good thing. >Along that same line, the Asun >sys/solaris/Makefile seems to enable the Streams module by default. Why >does your howto say to add it in? In the distribution I retrieved, the option is not set. Here are the relevant lines: # add -DNEW_STREAMS_MODULE if you're using umich's beta module DEFS= -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS So you need to add the required option on the DEFS= line, unless for odd reasons, it is indeed already set in yours... _________ mike (han@library.ucsf.edu) Nobody likes sunburn slappers - The collected wisdom of Bart Simpson From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 2 12:30:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA23886 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:30:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA23859 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:30:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA01557 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 22:31:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id WAA15164; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 22:31:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id WAA15162 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 22:31:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgate.cadence.com (mailgate.Cadence.COM [158.140.2.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA15158 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 22:31:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by mailgate.cadence.com (8.8.5/8.6.8) id TAA07865; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:30:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhub2.cadence.com(158.140.128.8) by mailgate.cadence.com via smap (mjr-v1.2) id xma891487853.007863; Wed, 1 Apr 98 19:30:53 -0800 Received: from mailhub.Cadence.COM (mailhub2.Cadence.COM [158.140.128.8]) by mailhub.Cadence.COM (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA16201; Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:30:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 19:30:52 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher Brooke Sharp To: Tom Arseneault cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Access Authentication under MacOS 8.x In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu That didn't seem to work. I even reset the passwd again just to make sure. I checked the caaps lock and the Keyboard setting on the Mac - to make sure it was in the right lnaguage??? Any guesses? Thanks ahead of time!! ##### On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Tom Arseneault wrote: > If your problem is the same as mine was, I needed to add my shell to the > /etc/shells file (on Solaris2.5) worked fine after that. Here is my shells > file: > > /bin/sh > /usr/bin/sh > /sbin/sh > /bin/csh > /usr/bin/csh > /bin/ksh > /usr/bin/ksh > /bin/tcsh > /usr/local/bin/tcsh > /usr/local/etc/nologin > > Try it > > Tom Arseneault > Sr. System Admin. > SRI International > arsen@erg.sri.com > > On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Christopher Sharp wrote: > > > Even after creating a special "atalk" account with a password "atalk123" > > I can't get afpd to grant me access other than guest under MacOS 8.0 and > > netatalk 1.4b2. > > > > Any ideas or settings you would check? > > > > Your help is appreciated. > > > > Christopher Sharp > > > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 2 12:53:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA26714 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:53:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA26685 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:53:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA06785; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:53:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA06783 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:53:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from library.ucsf.edu (athena.library.ucsf.EDU [128.218.33.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA06779 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:53:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (windy.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.85]) by library.ucsf.edu (8.8.7/8.7.5) with SMTP id JAA06636; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:50:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (han@localhost) by windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA02995; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:58:32 -0800 Message-Id: <199804021758.JAA02995@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> To: dschneid@cis.udel.edu cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] howto: solaris2.6 + asun18.2 (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Apr 1998 12:31:14 EST." <199804021231.aa00744@cis.udel.edu> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 09:58:31 -0800 From: Michael M Han Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sorry, I'm only using the afpd part of netatalk. My /etc/init.d/atalk doesn't even start papd. or timelord for that matter. Sounds like a permissions problem though... when you say you can only print as root, you mean it's an appletalk device and so you can only submit successful jobs via 'lp' from the netatalk box while logged in as root? That sounds like a problem I had before I installed the new beta kernel driver from Umich. As root I could 'nbplkup' but as no one else. I'm guessing it had something to do with permissions, atalkd, and /dev/ddp but I never took the time to figure out what. Just tried a 'nbplkup' as me (not root) w/ the new driver and it works fine... are you having trouble w/ or w/o the beta streams driver? Anyone better-clued than me about this one? Previously... >I have been having a small problem w/Solaris 2.5 that you might be able to hel >with, since you say it is working well. Namely, I can only print to a >netatalk printer as root. If I print as anyone else, the job appears >in the queue, then disappears shortly thereafter, as it would when >printing, but it never actually gets printed. Did you run into this >problem? _________ mike (han@library.ucsf.edu) Adding "just kidding" doesn't make it okay to insult the Principal - The collected wisdom of Bart Simpson From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 2 13:15:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA00630 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:15:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA00439 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:14:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA16683; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id NAA16677 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:14:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from boa.home.loc (ppp39-74.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de [129.70.39.74]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA16645 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:14:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from pink@localhost) by boa.home.loc (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA22716; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:15:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19980402201520.41212@localhost> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 20:15:20 +0200 From: bsieker@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Permission Settings on shared folder?? Reply-To: bsieker@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de Mail-Followup-To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu References: <199804010746.XAA19098@nucleus.fizbin.com> <35239558.5D2F94FF@sid.trust.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.90.3i In-Reply-To: <35239558.5D2F94FF@sid.trust.ee>; from Hannu Krosing on Thu, Apr 02, 1998 at 04:40:40PM +0300 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On 02.04.98, 16:40:40, Hannu Krosing wrote: > Harry Zink wrote: > > > > If I wanted to set up a shared folder, in addition to the individual user > > folders, how do I need to set the permissions on that folder? > > usually it is done by > > mkdir shared_folder > chgrp user_group shared_folder > chmod g+ws shared_folder > > then all files copied to or created in shared_folder will be owned > by group user_group. the owner will still be the user who created them, > but they will be accessible to others. It is often a good idea to set the sticky bit, so that no-one can delete other users' files. For some folders I even use chmod 1777. So everyone can read and write and execute, but can only delete his own files. I'm not sure if all unix filesystems support this use of sticky bit for directories, but Linux' ext2fs and BSD's FFS do. > > Cheers, > Hannu > > -- Bernd Sieker From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 2 13:44:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA04089 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:44:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA04070 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA01826 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:22:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA06891; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:22:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA06874 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:22:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from eecis.udel.edu (ren.eecis.udel.edu [128.175.7.13]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id NAA06801 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:22:26 -0500 (EST) From: dschneid@eecis.udel.edu To: Michael M Han Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] howto: solaris2.6 + asun18.2 (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199804021758.JAA02995@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> References: <199804021231.aa00744@cis.udel.edu> <199804021758.JAA02995@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:22:18 EST Message-ID: <199804021322.aa15552@eecis.udel.edu> Source-Info: From (or Sender) name not authenticated. Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu To clarify, I am using 971027 w/o asun on Solaris 2.5, and can't get printing to work except for the root user. When I try nbplkup as non-root, I get the following output: sun.ling [/opt/atalk/bin/]> nbplkup nbp_lookup: Permission denied There is apparently some permission problem, but I don't know where it is. Everything under /opt/atalk is readable and executable to the world, so I imagine the problem is elsewhere, but I'm not sure where all the rest of the stuff is or what needs to be readable (since there doesn't appear to be an nbp_lookup anywhere). Thanks Dave > >I have been having a small problem w/Solaris 2.5 that you might be able to hel > >with, since you say it is working well. Namely, I can only print to a > >netatalk printer as root. If I print as anyone else, the job appears > >in the queue, then disappears shortly thereafter, as it would when > >printing, but it never actually gets printed. Did you run into this > >problem? -- David A. Schneider Dept. of Linguistics dschneid@cis.udel.edu 46 E. Delaware slug@strauss.udel.edu Newark, DE 19716 http://www.cis.udel.edu/~dschneid tel. (302) 831-8203 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 2 13:58:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA05708 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:58:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA05685 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:57:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA20088; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:57:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA20064 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:57:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA20045 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:57:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14529; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:57:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from rock.me.mtu.edu (root@rock.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.31]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08906; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:57:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from critter.cec.mtu.edu (critter.cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.204]) by rock.me.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id NAA26047; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:57:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:58:39 -0500 (EST) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@critter.cec.mtu.edu To: dschneid@eecis.udel.edu cc: Michael M Han , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] howto: solaris2.6 + asun18.2 (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199804021322.aa15552@eecis.udel.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 2 Apr 1998 dschneid@eecis.udel.edu wrote: > sun.ling [/opt/atalk/bin/]> nbplkup > nbp_lookup: Permission denied Any netatalk program that gives you this error needs to be able to read /dev/ddp ... which you can do as root (obviously) but you'll need to do one of two things to fix it for other users: 1) make nbplkup (and friends) setuid root chmod 4755 nbplkup I've never heard of whether or not there are security problems associated with this. 2) make /dev/ddp readable by some group and make nbplkup setgid to that group chgrp somegroup /dev/ddp chgrp somegroup nbplkup chmod 2755 nbplkup - edan From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 2 14:24:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA07530 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:24:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA07515 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:24:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA05776 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:58:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA20393; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:58:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA20265 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:58:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from jensen.cs.indiana.edu (jensen.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.252.163]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA20189 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:58:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (brbothwe@localhost) by jensen.cs.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/IUCS_2.17) with SMTP id NAA08104; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:57:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:57:42 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Eric Bothwell To: John Barry -Technician cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Disapearing print jobs In-Reply-To: <22592.9804021036@zaza> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, John Barry -Technician wrote: > > Hi, > > I was grilling some of the users.... > Open flame? Hot plate? Barbecue? Inquiring minds whant to know! > > "you want fries with that?" > > sorry, couldn't resist :) > later > jb > It was open pit, with mesquite chips for flavor. yum yum. they were tasty! And now no more user complaints! :) -brian From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 2 14:24:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA07544 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:24:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA07524 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:24:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA06546 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:03:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA10571; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:03:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA10561 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:03:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from jensen.cs.indiana.edu (jensen.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.252.163]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA10555 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:03:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (brbothwe@localhost) by jensen.cs.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/IUCS_2.17) with SMTP id OAA08118; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:02:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 14:02:55 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Eric Bothwell To: "Robert O'Kane" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Disapearing print jobs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Robert O'Kane wrote: > Greetings, > > I've seen a simmilar problem with a pap-spooler(RIP) running > on an NT box. When 2 (or more) apple users tried to send to the > spooler at the same time, the NT box decided to do random things > including dropping jobs / mixing jobs together / crashing NT!! > > We 'fixed' it by having all the apple users send to a linux > server and then having the Linux box spool the jobs to the NT > one at a time. With PAP this is easy with the ofwpap (?) link/hack. > > Ofcouse we are spooling to the NT server using pap. I havent used > samba for printing but maybe this idea helps. > > Good luck, > > Robert O'Kane I think this must be the problem. I haven't tried the PAP hack yet, but we did set up another Linux box running Netatalk, and hooked the HP 6MP directly to it, and all the print jobs worked fine. (I would have hooked the printer up to the main Linux box long ago, but the parallel port is broken. I guess the moral of this story is to avoid using NT I can help it! :) thanx, -brian From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 2 15:01:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA09542 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:01:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA09510 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA14305; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA14186 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from user.baden-online.de (user.baden-online.de [195.238.152.5]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA14131 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:00:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by user.baden-online.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id WAA31464 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 22:00:26 +0200 Received: from [192.168.59.2] (powermac.pocnet.net [192.168.59.2]) by leela.pocnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA29060 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:33:08 +0200 X-Sender: poc@leela.pocnet.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 19:33:04 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] routing and & yp Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Does netatalk support routing? Yes. :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 2 16:00:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA12365 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:00:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA12360 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:00:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA08486; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:00:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA08468 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:00:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from cc00ms.unity.ncsu.edu (cc00ms.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.1.35]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA08431; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:00:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from [152.1.11.13] (ivanova.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.11.13]) by cc00ms.unity.ncsu.edu (8.8.4/US19Dec96) with ESMTP id QAA02388; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:00:27 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: user@hesiod (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:00:23 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Everette Gray Allen Subject: [netatalk-admins] Network Server 700 and netatalk... Cc: wesley.craig@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am looking for a way to utilize an under used Network Server 700 for filesharing with netatalk. Now 2 options come to mind and be questions: a) Does there exsist a version of Netatalk with will compile and run on AIX 4.1.4.1? I remember that there used to exsist an AIX version but I see no mention of it in the make files. b) Given that MKLinux exsists and that the Network Server 700 is CHRP has anyone set up a 700 with any flavor of Linux and netatalk? I don't need AFS or Kerberos (tho kerb V4 would be ok) just straight file sharing. Any help would be appreciated! Everette Gray Allen Consultant IV Box 7109 NCState Campus Computing Services Raleigh, NC 27695-7109 919-515-2517 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 2 17:08:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA14635 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:08:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA14631 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:08:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA00732; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:07:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA00715 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:07:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.nmc.siu.edu (orion.nmc.siu.edu [131.230.35.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA00686; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 17:07:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fleming@localhost) by orion.nmc.siu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.4) id QAA20768; Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:07:53 -0600 From: "Paul M. Fleming" Message-Id: <199804022207.QAA20768@orion.nmc.siu.edu> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Network Server 700 and netatalk... To: Everette_Allen@ncsu.edu (Everette Gray Allen) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:07:53 -0600 (CST) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, wesley.craig@umich.edu In-Reply-To: from "Everette Gray Allen" at Apr 2, 98 04:00:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I did get CAP to compile on a 700/200, but netatalk didn't work. The box does come with appletalk libraries and header files, but I was unable to find any docs on them. We ended up w/ uShare (crappy product) , my ideal solution (volunteers) would be to get netatalk to compile againts the AIX appletalk libraries. (My time w/ the 700/200 will end soon so i'm not interested in the project) Paul > > I am looking for a way to utilize an under used Network Server 700 for > filesharing with netatalk. > Now 2 options come to mind and be questions: > a) Does there exsist a version of Netatalk with will compile and run on AIX > 4.1.4.1? I remember that there used to exsist an AIX version but I see no > mention of it in the make files. > b) Given that MKLinux exsists and that the Network Server 700 is CHRP has > anyone set up a 700 with any flavor of Linux and netatalk? I don't need > AFS or Kerberos (tho kerb V4 would be ok) just straight file sharing. > Any help would be appreciated! > > Everette Gray Allen Consultant IV > Box 7109 NCState Campus Computing Services > Raleigh, NC 27695-7109 919-515-2517 > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 3 01:57:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id BAA20570 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:57:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA20566 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:57:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id BAA09139; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id BAA09135 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from gatekeeperi.bbp.ch (gatekeeper.bbp.ch [193.73.134.253]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id BAA09121 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 01:57:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from donald.bbp.ch by gatekeeperi.bbp.ch via smtpd (for redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) with SMTP; 3 Apr 1998 06:40:30 UT Received: by mail.bbp.ch (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA02661; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:54:56 +0200 Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:54:56 +0200 From: nms@bbp.ch (Nick Smith) Message-Id: <199804030654.IAA02661@mail.bbp.ch > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Access Authentication under MacOS 8. X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > X-Lines: 48 > > That didn't seem to work. I even reset the passwd again just to make sure. > I checked the caaps lock and the Keyboard setting on the Mac - to make > sure it was in the right lnaguage??? > > Any guesses? > > Thanks ahead of time!! What does your /etc/nsswitch.conf look like? I have strange authentication problems because I use NIS+. I found that if I log in via telnet into the require user everything is OK until the next reboot of the machine hosting netatalk - weird! Also I found that a rsh to the target machine with a .rhosts setup didn't work. Therefore it seems to be that if the passwd is decrypted / fetched from the NIS+ master then it works, if not... Does anyone else running netatalk in a NIS+ environment. I'm using 1.4b2+asun18.2 Regards, Nick Smith -- "Doing it right is no excuse for not meeting the timescales" - Management From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 3 05:27:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA26198 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 05:27:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA26149 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 05:27:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA00297; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 05:26:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA00295 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 05:26:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA00289 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 05:26:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (vivek@malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by malkav.imaginet.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA24394 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:25:59 +0100 Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:25:58 +0100 (BST) From: Vivek Reply-To: Vivek To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] tcpd.h In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, Alistair Riddell wrote: > Read the bit in the docs about TCP wrappers and then comment it out in the > Makefile. Thanks to everyone who replied - I finally managed to track down tcpd.h in the debian 'netbase' package. It's available at ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk in /computing/operating-systems/Linux/debian/stable/source/net/ for anyone who's interested.[Or in similar locations at any debian mirror, I imagine.] -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 3 06:15:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA11297 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 06:15:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA11293 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 06:14:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA02160; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 06:14:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA02155 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 06:14:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from rumms.uni-mannheim.de (rumms.uni-mannheim.de [134.155.50.52]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA02151 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 06:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from sophokles (grass@sophokles.informatik.uni-mannheim.de [134.155.48.104]) by rumms.uni-mannheim.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA16592 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:14:46 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:14:44 +0200 (MET DST) From: Oliver Grass X-Sender: grass@sophokles To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems with printing under OS 8.1 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folks, recently there appeared some strange problems with Netatalk 1.4b2 and MAC OS 8.1. Three month ago i installed Linux on a 486er machine. This machine worked as a Print- and File-Server for a Windows95-PC and a PowerMAC 9500/120... Everything worked fine, i configured the printer as described in the manual from Anders Brownworth.=20 So i was able to print and to access the files from the PC on the Linux-Box.. Then we upgraded from MAC OS 7.5.2 to MAC OS 8.1.... Then there appeared some strange problems with the filenames on the Linux-machine.=20 I detected that this was a problem from MAC OS 8.* and i noticed there was a bugfix available on the netatalk-Homepage... But printing worked very well... Then we decided to upgrade our server... So i switched the printer to the localtalk-connection from the mac. The server now is a Pentium 200 MMX with an Asus TX97-E Mainboard with 32MB EDO-RAM. When we finished the upgrading i switched the printer to the linux-box as before, and the the trouble started... I recompiled netatalk with the bugfixes and tried to install a new printer on the MAC. I used the Chooser, there appeared the printer as a selection. I clicked on it, then i wanted to make some changes.... I used the automatic configuration possibility, so i pressed printer-info (i don't know the correct name, since we are using the german version of MAC OS 8.1).... =2E.. and then the strang things happened. I get the errors 1, 2 or 3, and each time i had to restart the computer... But no communication with the printer was done... Since then, the printer refuses to print.... And i don't know were the problem is. I suppose it has something to do with MAC OS 8.1, but i really don't know..... I would be very happy, if someone can help me Thanks in advance Oliver +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Oliver Gra=DF=09=09=09=09 =09 | | Freiheitsplatz 10 E-mail: grass@rumms.uni-mannheim.de | | 68199 Mannheim WWW: http://webrum.uni-mannheim.de/math/grass |=20 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 3 11:16:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA18079 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:16:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA18074 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:15:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA23150; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:15:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA23145 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:15:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from luxbbs.itserve.com ([209.4.104.131]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA23101 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:15:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from davidhspc.atlanta.itserve.com (festus.itserve.com [209.4.104.189]) by luxbbs.itserve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11662 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:17:24 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-alpha-091997 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 11:15:38 -0500 (EST) Organization: Imaging Technologies From: David Hamm To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk on dec alpha? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Anybody running it? If so any problems? ------ David Hamm - dhamm@itserve.com -------- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 3 11:44:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA19153 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:44:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA19149 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:44:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA04544; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:44:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA04506 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:44:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from planet.com (sargas.planet.com [204.249.39.48]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA04473 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:44:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from [204.249.39.18] by planet.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.0); Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:43:19 -0500 X-Sender: rich@mail.planet.com. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:45:34 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Rich Martin Subject: [netatalk-admins] the latest version? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Well many hours have passed since I subscribed to netatalk-admins and still no traffic. So let's have a little story: I installed netatalk 1.4b2-1 several days ago, and noticed that it was too fragile. Over time it became apparent that mis-typed passwords triggered the sudden and permanent disappearance of the AppleShare server on the Linux box (Red Hat 4.2). Reboot. So I perused the Netatalk Survey, and saw that most netatalk admins were delighted with the stability of the server - only a minority shared my complaint about wonky authentication. Was I missing something? The Netatalk FAQ-O-Matic recommended applying a patch called asun17 (was I going to have to learn about patching Un*x software so soon?), but the Netatalk-HOWTO Tips recommended the download of an already-patched RPM called netatalk+asun20a18.2-oa1, so that's what I did. But when I attempted to install the package, rpm complained that my system failed the dependency check - several shared object files were unavailable. failed dependencies: libdl.so.2 is needed by netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2-oa1 libc.so.6 is needed by netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2-oa1 ld-linux.so.2 is needed by netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2-oa1 So here I am again - trying to figure out how to acquire and install the Linux software I need to get this thing into shape (three weeks ago, I was _so enthused_ about setting up a Un*x-based Internet server). These required shared object files - what package do I need to get _them_ into place? And when I do so, do I have to worry about breaking my existing software? I'm still in the middle of installing NcFTPd because I broke the /etc/inittab file (what a learning experience that turned into) when I followed the directions for getting that to run by itself. I noticed that rpm had some facilities for tracking package dependencies, but I have not yet investigated. Am I on the right track? -- Rich Martin --= rich@planet.com =-- Data Wrangler, Planet Interactive From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 3 12:48:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA21275 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 12:48:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA21266 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 12:48:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA28525; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 12:48:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA28523 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 12:48:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from deis98.deis.unibo.it (deis98.deis.unibo.it [137.204.57.98]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA28511 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 12:48:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from deis.unibo.it (deis176 [137.204.57.176]) by deis98.deis.unibo.it (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA13139 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 19:38:13 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <35252216.1B31CC24@deis.unibo.it> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 19:53:42 +0200 From: Gaetano Bellanca Reply-To: gbellanca@deis.unibo.it Organization: D.E.I.S. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Universit=E0?= di Bologna X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Password Autentication Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm trying to install netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 on a linux (2.0.33 kernel in Pentium II - slackware distribution). I'm having problem in connecting like a user (guest account is O.K.). /etc/shells file is O.K. with my shell (tcsh). I have commented all things related to des, tcpwrapper PAM etc ... in the makefiles (it didn't work also using des library). I don't understand what to do in README.LINUX file (points 4 and 5 in particular). Can you help me? Thanks in advance. Gaetano -- ___[_____]___ (.) (.) (_) --------------------o00O-------O00o------------------- +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Gaetano Bellanca | | D.E.I.S. - Dipartimento di Elettronica, Informatica e Sistemistica. | | University of Bologna. | | Viale Risorgimento, 2 - 40136 - Bologna - ITALY | | | | Phone : +39 51 6443060 | | Fax : +39 51 6443073 | | | | mailto:gbellanca@deis.unibo.it URL:http://www.deis.unibo.it | | | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 3 13:59:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA23763 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:59:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA23757 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:58:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA03389; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:58:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA03281 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:58:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA03242 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:58:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-147.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.147]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA32544; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 12:00:04 -0800 Message-Id: <199804032000.MAA32544@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] the latest version? Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:56:46 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink To: "Rich Martin" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu You're on the right track, but I suggest heading over to www.redhat.com or ftp.redhat.com, and grabbing the files you need from their site. Didn't have that problem withRed Hat 5.0 (albeit I'm having other issues), and I'm happy to report that the patched version of netatalk works just dandy. Harry Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 3 14:42:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA26467 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:42:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA26460 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:42:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA22699 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:19:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA18538; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:19:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA18112 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:18:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from school.cs.indiana.edu (school.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.252.119]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA18029 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:17:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (brbothwe@localhost) by school.cs.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/IUCS_2.17) with SMTP id NAA12556 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:17:50 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: school.cs.indiana.edu: brbothwe owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:17:49 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Eric Bothwell To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Login problems (again) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am having one machine in our office (A G3 running MacOS 8.1) that all of a sudden cannot login to our netatalk server. No matter who I try to login as, I get a "password incorrect" message. *however* if I try and specify an IP # directly from Chooser, the logins seem to work about 75% of the time. The *only* thing that has changed is that I set up another Linux box running netatalk, which has a new printer hooked up to it. I cannot log into THAT via netatalk no matter WHAT I do. (From the G3. Logins from all other machines work fine) I tried taking both netatalk servers off-line, one at a time, to see if they were messing with each other but no luck. I am getting entries in /var/log/messages that indicate that the login-request connection is being made, but no error messages that indicate any login errors. This is driving me batty. Anyone else seen problems like this? I was having login problems from the G3 a while back, but they just went away after a day or two!! (I both love and hate problems that mysteriously fix themselves!) -Brian PS All our print job problems (which I posted about the other day) were fixed once we hooked the printer directly up to out new netatalk server! Yeah!!! From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 3 14:48:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA26800 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:48:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA26792 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:48:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA25395; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:48:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA25331 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:48:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from planet.com (sargas.planet.com [204.249.39.48]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA24834 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:46:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from [204.249.39.18] by planet.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.0); Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:46:07 -0500 X-Sender: rich@mail.planet.com. Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199804032000.MAA32544@nucleus.fizbin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:48:23 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Rich Martin Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] the latest version? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >You're on the right track, but I suggest heading over to www.redhat.com >or ftp.redhat.com, and grabbing the files you need from their site. > Oh, yeah, I've been up and down of the redhat sites trying to figure out just what packages I need - it seems that what I'm lacking is glibc-2.0.5c-10. What are the dangers here regarding RedHat 5.0 C libraries on a RedHat 4.2 system? Are my existing programs going to break? -- Rich Martin --= rich@planet.com =-- Data Wrangler, Planet Interactive From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 3 14:51:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA27128 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:51:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA27107 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:51:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA14947; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:51:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA14943 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:51:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from sjc.erg.sri.com (sjc.erg.sri.com [128.18.5.100]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA14929 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:51:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mariposa.erg.sri.com by sjc.erg.sri.com (8.8.8/2.7davy) id LAA27707; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:50:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:51:15 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Arseneault To: Gaetano Bellanca cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Password Autentication In-Reply-To: <35252216.1B31CC24@deis.unibo.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I had a similar problem. My solution turned out to be the Shells but if finding this I noticed a number of solution for linux. One of them is to edit the auth.c file in etc/afpd; change the lines: #ifdef SOLARIS #define SHADOWPW #endif SOLARIS to /*#ifdef SOLARIS*/ #define SHADOWPW /*#endif SOLARIS*/ So that SHADOWPW is always defind. Assuming you are using shadow passwords this may help. Tom On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Gaetano Bellanca wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to install netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 on a linux (2.0.33 kernel in > Pentium II - slackware distribution). > > I'm having problem in connecting like a user (guest account is O.K.). > > /etc/shells file is O.K. with my shell (tcsh). > > I have commented all things related to des, tcpwrapper PAM etc ... in the > makefiles (it didn't work also using des library). > > I don't understand what to do in README.LINUX file (points 4 and 5 in particular). > > Can you help me? > > Thanks in advance. > > Gaetano > -- > > > ___[_____]___ > (.) (.) > (_) > --------------------o00O-------O00o------------------- > > +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Gaetano Bellanca | > | D.E.I.S. - Dipartimento di Elettronica, Informatica e Sistemistica. | > | University of Bologna. | > | Viale Risorgimento, 2 - 40136 - Bologna - ITALY | > | | > | Phone : +39 51 6443060 | > | Fax : +39 51 6443073 | > | | > | mailto:gbellanca@deis.unibo.it URL:http://www.deis.unibo.it | > | | > +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ > From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 3 16:51:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA00952 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:51:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA00939 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:51:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA11830; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:51:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA11794 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:51:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.nmc.siu.edu (orion.nmc.siu.edu [131.230.35.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA11764 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:50:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fleming@localhost) by orion.nmc.siu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.4) id PAA17884 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 15:50:50 -0600 From: "Paul M. Fleming" Message-Id: <199804032150.PAA17884@orion.nmc.siu.edu> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Speed Testing Revisited To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 15:50:50 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Let's try this again. It seems there was a lot of interest in my first attempt so I've tried to refine it this time. This test was more controlled and strictly designed to compare ASIP vs AS using UMICH's netatalk and a sun's update to the same package. This time the results are much more consistant. I've include the RAW data for anyone interested. Plus I include more information about the server setup.. The second attempt is found at http://www.nmc.siu.edu/~fleming/speed2.html Paul From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 3 17:04:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA01757 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:04:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA01753 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:04:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA16137; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:04:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA16134 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:04:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA16125 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:04:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id AAA17833 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 00:04:09 +0200 Message-ID: <35255CD1.23A44ABE@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 00:04:01 +0200 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk list Subject: [netatalk-admins] AFP protocol specs wanted Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Dear list readers, I would like to get familiar with the AFP protocol innards, and would like to ask people knowing where to find preferably online documentation on it to post me pointers. Thank You in advance. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 3 17:23:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA02525 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:23:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA02516 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:23:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA22308; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:23:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA22273 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:23:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA22239 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:23:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id AAA18527 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 00:23:27 +0200 Message-ID: <35256157.FFCE85B7@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 00:23:19 +0200 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Network Server 700 and netatalk... References: <199804022207.QAA20768@orion.nmc.siu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Paul M. Fleming wrote: > I did get CAP to compile on a 700/200, but netatalk didn't work. The box > does come with appletalk libraries and header files, but I was unable to > find any docs on them. We ended up w/ uShare (crappy product) , my ideal > solution (volunteers) would be to get netatalk to compile againts the > AIX appletalk libraries. Although this might only provide limited capabilities, but what about a stripped, TCP/IP only netatalk. There were considerations on the list before; has anyone actually started to do it? As a side note, I would like to acquire AIX 4.1.5 for the Apple Network Server, which - as I was told - contains ASIP support (needed for uShare) in it's AppleTalk stack, which might make it easier to port the ASIP supporting netatalk to this platform (again). [Off-topic: People, if by any chance someone in the States has the possibility to acquire AIX 4.1.5 (Apple part.no. 691-1423-A, costs around $30 US) and DHL it to me to Hungary, please contact me. I am unable to get it from my national Apple (or even from Apple Europe) for three months now. Thank You.] Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 3 20:12:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA05990 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:12:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA05986 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:12:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA12574; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:12:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA12563 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:12:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA12544 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:12:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id RAA16888; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:12:09 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <0000156D.sm@h-e.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AFP protocol specs wanted Date: Fri, 3 Apr 98 16:42:11 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: bandit@freeside.elte.hu (Andras Kadinger) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 5872 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:12 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Andras - I hunted around on the Apple web sites a while ago, and all I could find was this: http://devworld.apple.com/dev/techsupport/insidemac/Networking/Networkin g-223.html This page is a portion of the "Inside Macintosh" publication, but the intro from the page says this: "This chapter describes the programming interface to the workstation portion of AFP only. It does not describe how to implement and AFP server. For information on how to implement and AFP server, see 'Inside AppleTalk,' second edition." In other words this doesn't help a whole lot if you want to understand netatalk afpd and the protocol itself, and I imagine that is what you are really interested in (me too). Despite much hunting, I could not find any part of "Inside AppleTalk" on-line, nor could I even find a place to order the actual books on-line. Besides I'm not quite interested enough to spend money on it ;-). Maybe someone else out there knows of on-line resources other than those at Apple? Bob ______________________________________________ Original message sent on Fri, Apr 3 2:04 PM by bandit@freeside.elte.hu (Andras Kadinger) : To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk list) [netatalk-admins] AFP protocol specs wanted Dear list readers, I would like to get familiar with the AFP protocol innards, and would like to ask people knowing where to find preferably online documentation on it to post me pointers. Thank You in advance. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 3 20:26:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA06658 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:26:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA06651 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:26:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA05180; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:26:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA05149 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:26:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from library.ucsf.edu (apollo.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA05128 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:26:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (windy.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.85]) by library.ucsf.edu (8.8.7/8.7.5) with SMTP id RAA28547; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:23:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (han@localhost) by windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA06420; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 17:31:07 -0800 Message-Id: <199804040131.RAA06420@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> To: bsmith@h-e.com cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AFP protocol specs wanted In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Apr 1998 16:42:11 PST." <0000156D.sm@h-e.com> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 17:31:06 -0800 From: Michael M Han Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Try all of the following: http://appleshareip.apple.com/appleshareip/text/pdf/afp_2.2_specification.pdf http://ftp-applenet.apple.com/pub/appleshare/appletalkfilingprotv2.1_2.2.pdf http://gemma.apple.com/dev/opentransport/docs/dev/Inside_AppleTalk.pdf _________ mike (han@library.ucsf.edu) I am not deliciously saucy - The collected wisdom of Bart Simpson From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 3 20:31:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA07060 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:31:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA07050 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:31:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id UAA21938; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:31:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id UAA21931 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:31:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA21927 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id DAA28059 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 03:31:26 +0200 Message-ID: <35258D6A.8E06F032@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 03:31:22 +0200 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk list Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: AFP protocol specs wanted - found Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Dear list members, Michael M Han - han@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu was so kind to stumble upon the following link pointing to Inside Appletalk: http://gemma.apple.com/dev/opentransport/docs/dev/Inside_AppleTalk.pdf (gemma is an alias to devworld) He also pointed me to appleshareip; update information regarding the newer AFP 2.1 and AFP 2.2 protocols can be found there: http://www.apple.com/appleshareip/text/information.html#dev Thank You, Michael. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 3 22:12:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA09229 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:12:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA09225 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:12:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA23485; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:12:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA23483 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:12:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA23473 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:12:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id TAA18741; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 19:12:13 -0800 (PST) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <0000156E.sm@h-e.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AFP protocol specs wanted Date: Fri, 3 Apr 98 18:38:59 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: han@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (Michael M Han) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 5894 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 19:12 PST Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Thanks Michael, this is exactly what we were hunting for! I think Apple needs to improve their web search tool... Bob ______________________________________________ Original message sent on Fri, Apr 3 5:31 PM by han@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (Michael M Han) : To: bsmith cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Re: [netatalk-admins] AFP protocol specs wanted Try all of the following: http://appleshareip.apple.com/appleshareip/text/pdf/afp_2.2_specification.pdf http://ftp-applenet.apple.com/pub/appleshare/appletalkfilingprotv2.1_2.2.pdf http://gemma.apple.com/dev/opentransport/docs/dev/Inside_AppleTalk.pdf _________ mike (han@library.ucsf.edu) I am not deliciously saucy - The collected wisdom of Bart Simpson From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Apr 4 02:19:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id CAA21896 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 02:19:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id CAA21890 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 02:19:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id CAA21557; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 02:19:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id CAA21554 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 02:19:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from outpost.localdomain (mmatteo.ns.net [204.119.243.162]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id CAA21550 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 02:19:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from sacbee.com (mmatteo@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by outpost.localdomain (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA02299; Fri, 3 Apr 1998 23:21:07 -0800 Message-ID: <3525DF62.D803724B@sacbee.com> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 23:21:06 -0800 From: Marc Matteo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.1.92 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu CC: Rich Martin Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] the latest version? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Rich Martin wrote: > >You're on the right track, but I suggest heading over to www.redhat.com > >or ftp.redhat.com, and grabbing the files you need from their site. > > > > Oh, yeah, I've been up and down of the redhat sites trying to figure out > just what packages I need - it seems that what I'm lacking is > glibc-2.0.5c-10. Ok, whoa... The way I understand it (I'm not a Linux programmer, just a Linux user...) adding the glibc libs to a systems isn't just a haphazard thing unless you really like destroying most of the apps you've already compiled. Red Hat 4.2 is a libc setup while Red Hat 5.0 is a glibc setup... they don't alway mix. It sounds like you were shopping in the 5.0 section of Red Hat :). What you should do is either learn how to patch Un*x programs (yes, so soon :)) or grab the already-patched Netatalk/asun source from asun's FTP site at: ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/public/asun/ and compile that. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Matteo Web Engineer, The Sacramento Bee http://www.sacbee.com From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Apr 4 06:59:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA12044 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 06:59:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA12039 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 06:59:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA11279; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 06:59:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA11256 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 06:58:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg (qtas1451.singnet.com.sg [165.21.52.121]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA11244 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 06:58:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (khoogc@localhost) by daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA00828; Sat, 4 Apr 1998 19:59:12 +0800 X-Authentication-Warning: daisy.khoohouse.geylang.sg: khoogc owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 19:59:12 +0800 (SGT) From: KHOO Guan Chen X-Sender: khoogc@daisy Reply-To: KHOO Guan Chen To: Rich Martin cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] the latest version? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 3 Apr 1998, Rich Martin wrote: > >You're on the right track, but I suggest heading over to www.redhat.com > >or ftp.redhat.com, and grabbing the files you need from their site. > > > > Oh, yeah, I've been up and down of the redhat sites trying to figure out > just what packages I need - it seems that what I'm lacking is > glibc-2.0.5c-10. > > What are the dangers here regarding RedHat 5.0 C libraries on a RedHat 4.2 > system? Are my existing programs going to break? Er.. are you using the rpm that came with RH 4.2? If so upgrade your rpm to rpm-2.4.10-1 and try again. Cheers Richard KHOO Guan Chen e-mail: khoogc@singnet.com.sg snail-mail: 38-A, Lorong 23, Geylang, Singapore 388372 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Apr 6 11:18:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA09313 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:18:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA09289 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:18:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA23750; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:18:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA23673 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:18:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oz.plymouth.edu (oz.plymouth.edu [158.136.1.100]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA23613 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:18:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.plymouth.edu (finite.plymouth.edu [158.136.75.171]) by oz.plymouth.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18922; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:26:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3528E626.1D697703@mail.plymouth.edu> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 08:35:02 -0500 From: Casey Bisson Reply-To: cbisson@oz.plymouth.edu Organization: Information Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andras Kadinger CC: Netatalk list Subject: [netatalk-admins] IP-only netatalk [formerly:Network Server 700 and netatalk] References: <199804022207.QAA20768@orion.nmc.siu.edu> <35256157.FFCE85B7@freeside.elte.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Although this might only provide limited capabilities, but what about a > stripped, TCP/IP only netatalk. There were considerations on the list > before; has anyone actually started to do it? As a non-programmer type, I'm curious what functionality could be preserved without appletalk. The MacOS can be an IP-only AppleShare client, and IP printing is now supported. What else was AppleTalk needed for? Could an IP-only AppleTalk be ported to platforms that currently do not support Netatlk, like DEC Unix? TIA, Casey Bisson Information Technology Plymouth State College From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Apr 6 11:19:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA09337 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA09324 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:18:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA17228; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:18:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA17191 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:18:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from spine.methodfive.com (spine.methodfive.com [205.183.219.204]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA17171 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:18:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from poppy.methodfive.com (poppy.methodfive.com [205.183.219.196]) by spine.methodfive.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA19683; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:09:44 -0400 Received: from localhost (warren@localhost) by poppy.methodfive.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA26729; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:09:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: poppy.methodfive.com: warren owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:09:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Warren H. Chang" To: Appletalk on Linux , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] question on mounting apple partitions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I apologize in advance if this seems a bit off topic, but recently we've gotten netatalk to work with our redhat 5.0 system, and for security purposes, I'm trying to find out if there's any way of mounting an macintosh partition onto linux? I looked at the hfs for linux project that Paul Hargrove is working on, but that doesn't seem to be a network app. is there a way to do this? and if so, can anyone point me in the right direction. thanks Warren From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Apr 6 12:48:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA15001 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:48:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA14997 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:48:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA08696; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:48:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA08686 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:48:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA08316 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:47:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (vivek@malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by malkav.imaginet.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA05825; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:42:29 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:42:29 +0100 (BST) From: Vivek Reply-To: Vivek To: "Warren H. Chang" cc: Appletalk on Linux , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] question on mounting apple partitions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Warren H. Chang wrote: > purposes, I'm trying to find out if there's any way of mounting an > macintosh partition onto linux? I looked at the hfs for linux project afpfs is supposed to do this [It compiled Ok for me, but I haven't succeeded in actually getting it to mount an afp share yet - not that I've tried very hard or anything] hmm... I appear to have mislaid the source, so I can't tell you where to get it... no, wait, I lie.... it's at: http://www.odyssey.co.il/~heksterb/Software/afpfs/ -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Apr 6 12:53:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA15098 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:53:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA15090 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:53:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA11828; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:53:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA11787 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:53:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from planet.com (sargas.planet.com [204.249.39.48]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA11169 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.249.39.18] by planet.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.0); Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:50:40 -0400 X-Sender: rich@mail.planet.com. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:53:05 -0400 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Rich Martin Subject: [netatalk-admins] error compiling netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I downloaded the already-patched Netatalk/asun source from asun's FTP site and decompressed it just fine. Since this is my first time doing this, I thought I would do a 'dry run' before attempting a full-fledged install. So I edited the toplevel Makefile, specifying a (nonexistant) directory in my home tree. I assume the makefile will create that folder itself. That was the only change I made, then I invoked 'make'. Things scrolled merrily along (merrily we scroll along...) until: make[4]: Entering directory `/home/rich/updates/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/etc/afpd' gcc -DUAM_RNDNUM -O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized -I../../include -I/usr/local/include -DUSE_PAM -DAPPLCNAME -DCRLF -c unix.c -o unix.o unix.c:63: sys/quota.h: No such file or directory make[4]: *** [unix.o] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/rich/updates/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/etc/afpd' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/rich/updates/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/etc/afpd' make[2]: *** [afpd] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/rich/updates/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/etc' make[1]: *** [../../etc] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/rich/updates/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/sys/linux' make: *** [all] Error 2 whoops! so, I do this: $ locate quota.h /usr/include/rpcsvc/rquota.h /usr/src/linux-2.0.30/include/linux/quota.h Now I figure if I make a symbolic link to this include file (or copy it), unix.c will compile properly (and I'll be well on my way to my next compile error) but how do I know where unix.c expects to find this #include? My first guess was /home/rich/updates/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/sys but that did no good. Any ideas? most of the compiling and linking options are mysterious to me. PS: RedHat Linux 4.2 Pentium with netatalk-1.4b2 already installed -- Rich Martin --= rich@planet.com =-- Data Wrangler, Planet Interactive From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Apr 6 13:45:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA17239 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:45:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA17233 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:45:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA02034; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:45:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA01988 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:45:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ranger.argus-systems.com (ranger.argus-systems.com [206.221.232.80]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA01791 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:44:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (amcnabb@localhost) by ranger.argus-systems.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA00508; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:39:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:39:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrew McNabb To: Casey Bisson cc: Andras Kadinger , Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] IP-only netatalk [formerly:Network Server 700 and netatalk] In-Reply-To: <3528E626.1D697703@mail.plymouth.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This discussion has come up before. The one other thing that appletalk is useful for is for broadcasting. On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Casey Bisson wrote: > > Although this might only provide limited capabilities, but what about a > > stripped, TCP/IP only netatalk. There were considerations on the list > > before; has anyone actually started to do it? > > As a non-programmer type, I'm curious what functionality could be preserved > without appletalk. The MacOS can be an IP-only AppleShare client, and IP printing > is now supported. What else was AppleTalk needed for? > > Could an IP-only AppleTalk be ported to platforms that currently do not support > Netatlk, like DEC Unix? > > TIA, > > Casey Bisson > Information Technology > Plymouth State College > ---------------------------------------------- Andrew McNabb Argus Systems Group amcnabb@argus-systems.com ---------------------------------------------- I am an International Arms Trafficker!!!!! http://online.offshore.com.ai/arms-trafficker/ ---------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Apr 6 14:22:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA19842 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:22:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA19835 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:22:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA17791; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:22:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA17788 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:22:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from s2.ima.umn.edu (s2.ima.umn.edu [128.101.155.12]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA17783 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:22:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pc5.ima.umn.edu (bonnevil@pc5.ima.umn.edu [128.101.155.155]) by s2.ima.umn.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21071; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:22:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Steven Bonneville Received: (from bonnevil@localhost) by pc5.ima.umn.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) id NAA32144; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:22:29 -0500 Message-Id: <199804061822.NAA32144@pc5.ima.umn.edu> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] error compiling netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 To: rich@planet.com (Rich Martin) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:22:29 -0500 (CDT) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: from "Rich Martin" at Apr 6, 98 12:53:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP3 *ALPHA*] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Rich Martin wrote: > I downloaded the already-patched Netatalk/asun source from asun's FTP site > and decompressed it just fine. Since this is my first time doing this, > I thought I would do a 'dry run' before attempting a full-fledged install. > So I edited the toplevel Makefile, specifying a (nonexistant) directory > in my home tree. I assume the makefile will create that folder itself. > That was the only change I made, then I invoked 'make'. Things scrolled > merrily along (merrily we scroll along...) until: > > make[4]: Entering directory > `/home/rich/updates/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/etc/afpd' > gcc -DUAM_RNDNUM -O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused > -Wuninitialized -I../../include -I/usr/local/include -DUSE_PAM > -DAPPLCNAME -DCRLF -c unix.c -o unix.o > unix.c:63: sys/quota.h: No such file or directory [...] > so, I do this: > $ locate quota.h > /usr/include/rpcsvc/rquota.h > /usr/src/linux-2.0.30/include/linux/quota.h > > Now I figure if I make a symbolic link to this include file (or copy it), > unix.c will compile properly (and I'll be well on my way to my next compile > error) but how do I know where unix.c expects to find this #include? My > first guess was /home/rich/updates/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/sys but that > did no good. I looked at the code of netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/etc/afpd/unix.c, and the offending code is nested inside an "#ifdef linux" define block in there. To make it compile, I had to either define NEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER or comment out the line "#ifdef NEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER" and the lines for the else statement and #endif for that block. Then the compile selects linux/quota.h (from the kernel tree), among a couple of other things. -- Steve Bonneville From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Apr 6 14:39:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA21101 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:39:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA21092 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:39:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA25805; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:39:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA25770 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:39:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from library.ucsf.edu (apollo.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA25756 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:39:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (windy.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.85]) by library.ucsf.edu (8.8.7/8.7.5) with SMTP id KAA17642 for <@athena:netatalk-admins@umich.edu>; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (han@localhost) by windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id KAA09495 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:52:10 -0700 Message-Id: <199804061752.KAA09495@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] supported UAMs Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 10:52:10 -0700 From: Michael M Han Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello all. Now that my netatalk is happily installed I've begun worrying a bit about security. Because I can't use kerberos and don't want to store any cleartext passwords, I'm transmitting clear-text passwords on my network, which I'm not liking. So I have a couple of questions about UAMs now. First, it seems that the latest AppleShare Client (3.7.2, right?) has no support for 3rd-party UAMs for afp over ip connections. This certainly seems a problem. Apple doesn't seem to be showing much interest in addressing it either, since ASClient3.7.2's been out for quite a while now. Anyone have more information on 3rd-party UAMs and ASClient? Being limited to randnum and cleartext for Internet communications seems like a real bad thing. My other question is about a 3rd-party UAM. Namely, the Microsoft UAM provided with NT Server. It has its own security problems, but I think they're lesser than those of clear-text and randnum. Samba already delivers a nice set of password management tools and password.c from their source (GPL'd) seems to be ripe for the taking. Hacking yet another UAM into auth.c would be messy, but could be worth it. I'd give it a shot myself but fear the likely results (I'm no programmer). Anyone have any thoughts on either question? _____ Michael Han (han@library.ucsf.edu) voice: (415) 502-7542 Interactive Learning Center Consultant (415) 476-4309 San Francisco, California 94143-0840 fax: (415) 476-4653 "Closed Mondays." The Walker Art Center From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Apr 6 14:46:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA22064 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:46:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA22020 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:46:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA14774 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:34:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA03109; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:34:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA03105 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:34:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA03052 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:34:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from saul5.u.washington.edu (asun@saul5.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.3]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA30640; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:33:42 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by saul5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) id JAA31321; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804061633.JAA31321@saul5.u.washington.edu> From: a sun To: cbisson@oz.plymouth.edu CC: bandit@freeside.elte.hu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <3528E626.1D697703@mail.plymouth.edu> (message from Casey Bisson on Mon, 06 Apr 1998 08:35:02 -0500) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] IP-only netatalk [formerly:Network Server 700 and netatalk] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Although this might only provide limited capabilities, but what about a > stripped, TCP/IP only netatalk. There were considerations on the list > before; has anyone actually started to do it? okay, here comes another faq type response. somebody archive it for posterity. Q: what is an IP only appletalk? A: you can carry appletalk over ip. however, this is not what is usually meant by the question. usually, somebody is actually interested in using appleshare over ip. this, in itself, does not need appletalk at all although it can use bits to register itself in the chooser. Q: what's involved in making netatalk tcp/ip only? A: the only part of netatalk that can be tcp/ip only is afpd. to do this and have it work on a particular machine, you need to do two things: 1) rip out all of the appletalk specific stuff in afpd. 2) munge netatalk/endian.h and etc/afpd/unix.c so that they work on your machine. in my current, unavailable patch set, i've done #1 already. the addition of afp/tcp actually made the job easier by encapsulating the relevant bits. i'll probably encapsulate things a little more to reduce the number of ifdefs necessary. the libatalk Makefile needs to be changed to not build any of the appletalk stuff. to do #2 correctly, you really need to do a configure type thing. i'll probably stick in USE_BLAH_H type defines in and have people fiddle with them until they work.. Q: what do i lose by going to tcp/ip only? A: tcp/ip based networks don't advertise services. as a result, you'll need to know the server/printer to which you want to connect. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Apr 6 14:46:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA22091 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:46:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA22032 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA18749 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:09:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA11098; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:09:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA11046 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:09:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from school.cs.indiana.edu (school.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.252.119]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA10977 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 14:08:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (brbothwe@localhost) by school.cs.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/IUCS_2.17) with SMTP id NAA25088 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:08:56 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: school.cs.indiana.edu: brbothwe owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:08:56 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Eric Bothwell To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] question on mounting apple partitions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Vivek wrote: > On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Warren H. Chang wrote: > > > purposes, I'm trying to find out if there's any way of mounting an > > macintosh partition onto linux? I looked at the hfs for linux project > > afpfs is supposed to do this [It compiled Ok for me, but I haven't > succeeded in actually getting it to mount an afp share yet - not that > I've tried very hard or anything] > > hmm... I appear to have mislaid the source, so I can't tell you where to > get it... no, wait, I lie.... it's at: > > http://www.odyssey.co.il/~heksterb/Software/afpfs/ > > -- > fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex > > > I couldn't get anything to mount via afpfs on my Redhat 5.0 box. I emailed the author and he said that this is a known problem, and that he will be fixing as soon as he gets settled in and gets a new Linux box. (he has moved to the US recently) -brian From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Apr 6 15:38:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA26350 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 15:38:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA26338 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 15:38:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA15677; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 15:38:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA15649 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 15:38:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oz.plymouth.edu (oz.plymouth.edu [158.136.1.100]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA15602 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 15:38:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.plymouth.edu (finite.plymouth.edu [158.136.75.171]) by oz.plymouth.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03626; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:50:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35292405.76B74E7D@mail.plymouth.edu> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 12:59:22 -0500 From: Casey Bisson Reply-To: cbisson@oz.plymouth.edu Organization: Information Technology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andras Kadinger CC: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Network Server 700 and netatalk... References: <199804022207.QAA20768@orion.nmc.siu.edu> <35256157.FFCE85B7@freeside.elte.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > [Off-topic: People, if by any chance someone in the States has the > possibility to acquire AIX 4.1.5 (Apple part.no. 691-1423-A, costs > around $30 US) and DHL it to me to Hungary, please contact me. I am > unable to get it from my national Apple (or even from Apple Europe) for > three months now. Thank You.] I didn't find it on my most recent pricelist, I'm guessing that it could only be gotten from a remarketer? Casey Bisson Information Technology Plymouth State College From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Apr 6 16:46:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA00977 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:46:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA00968 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:46:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA29649; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:46:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA29619 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:46:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cimteg.cimtegration.com (cimteg.cimtegration.com [199.246.8.18]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA29537 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:46:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cimteg.cimtegration.com (cimteg.cimtegration.com [199.246.8.18]) by cimteg.cimtegration.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/cimteg $Revision: 1.11 $) with SMTP id QAA10092; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:35:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Mansell Reply-To: Mike Mansell To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu cc: asun@saul5.u.washington.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] ethernet sniffer? In-Reply-To: <199804061633.JAA31321@saul5.u.washington.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Anyone know of an ethernet sniffer that can handle packets other than IP? - We're currently using snoop but its not enough. Preferably, it would run on Solaris or Linux so that we can see exactly what's being sent out by our embedded AFP server (under development). We think that the structures aren't being properly aligned so bad packets are being sent out to the ethernet. Thanks, Mike. -- /\ Michael G. Mansell, BSc. (SCS) Office: (416) 665-0767 x228 /\ \ Engineering Support Services clearNET:(416) 984-7839 /\ \ \ DataVation Inc., Toronto Fax: (416) 665-8285 / \ \ \ WWW.DataVation.COM Email: MikeM@DataVation.COM From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Apr 6 17:20:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA04389 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:20:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA04384 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:20:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA14826; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:20:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA14818 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:20:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from COE.Missouri.EDU (tiger.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA14793 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 17:20:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from z-ha-dum.coe.missouri.edu ([128.206.158.6]) by COE.Missouri.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA23382; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:19:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <9903.891897362.12844235.21579@> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 16:16:02 -0500 From: Mark Donnelly Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] ethernet sniffer? To: , Reply-To: Mark Donnelly X-Importance: normal X-Sensitivity: normal X-Priority: normal X-Mailer: TeamWARE Embla 98 Beta, , Build: 148 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Mike Mansell: >Anyone know of an ethernet sniffer that can handle packets other than IP? >Preferably, it would run on Solaris or Linux Mike: As soon as http://www.freshmeat.net/ comes back up (database problems as of 16:20 CDT), it just had a utility on there today, something along the lines of 'iptrafmon', I think. A friend of mine grabbed it and compiled...looks neat. I don't know if it recognizes AFP, but it's good for a go. Curses based, seems to be well handling. Other than that, have you considered etherpeek on the Macintosh side? It doesn't handle traffic that specifically deals with the local machine, but it'll peek on traffic from a unix box to another mac quite well. --Mark Donnelly From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Apr 6 18:18:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA08281 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:18:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA08276 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:18:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA00191; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:18:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA00183 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:18:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhost.Hax.SE ([192.176.10.202] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA00136 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:18:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from spiff (spiff.Hax.SE [192.71.144.3]) by mailhost.Hax.SE (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA14190; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:17:45 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199804062117.XAA14190@mailhost.Hax.SE> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:17:45 +0200 (MET DST) From: Thomas Tornblom Reply-To: Thomas Tornblom Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] ethernet sniffer? To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, mansell@CIMtegration.COM Cc: asun@saul5.u.washington.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-MD5: XGtEzQyvi0tWNAHdxPHX0A== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4m sparc Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > >Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu= =20 [141.211.164.2]) by hellfire.englund.nu (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA= 07583=20 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:52:46 +0200 (MET DST) > From: Mike Mansell > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > cc: asun@saul5.u.washington.edu > Subject: [netatalk-admins] ethernet sniffer? > MIME-Version: 1.0 >=20 > Anyone know of an ethernet sniffer that can handle packets other than IP?= =20 > - We're currently using snoop but its not enough. =20 >=20 > Preferably, it would run on Solaris or Linux so that we can see exactly > what's being sent out by our embedded AFP server (under development). We > think that the structures aren't being properly aligned so bad packets ar= e > being sent out to the ethernet.=20 >=20 Check out my snoop with appletalk support: ftp://playground.sun.com/pub/brent/snoop/at_snoop.tar.gz > Thanks, > =09Mike. >=20 > -- > /\ Michael G. Mansell, BSc. (SCS) Office: (416) 665-0767 x228 > /\ \ Engineering Support Services clearNET:(416) 984-7839 > /\ \ \ DataVation Inc., Toronto Fax: (416) 665-8285 > / \ \ \ WWW.DataVation.COM Email: MikeM@DataVation.COM >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 Real life: Thomas T=F6rnblom Email: Thomas.Tornblom@Hax.S= E Snail mail: HB Hax Phone: +46 18 290 290 Banvallsv=E4gen 14 Fax: +46 18 290 291 S - 754 40 Uppsala, Sweden Cellular: +46 708 323118 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Apr 6 18:38:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA09633 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:38:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA09625 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:38:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA04144; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:38:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA04134 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA04113 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:38:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id AAA04155; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 00:38:02 +0200 Message-ID: <3529589C.FE698B07@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 00:35:08 +0200 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cbisson@oz.plymouth.edu CC: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AIX 4.1.5 References: <199804022207.QAA20768@orion.nmc.siu.edu> <35256157.FFCE85B7@freeside.elte.hu> <35292405.76B74E7D@mail.plymouth.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Casey, Thank You for Your efforts. Casey Bisson wrote: > I didn't find it on my most recent pricelist, I'm guessing that it could only be > gotten from a remarketer? 'Your nearest Apple representative' should be able to tell the difference, mine said (looking at the '6' in the part number), that it is some kind of 'service' package vs. others being 'public' ones. All the aspects of this should be, that I would not be able to get it neither in Hungary nor Europe, but only in the States. It is I think also a relatively recent item, let's say 6 weeks old (I had to spend 45 minutes on the phone overseas to get the part number). Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu PS: Sorry for cluttering up the list. Please respond privately if You can. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Apr 7 05:10:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA21501 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 05:10:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA21497 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 05:10:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA18707; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 05:10:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA18704 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 05:10:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA18699 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 05:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (vivek@malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by malkav.imaginet.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA06827; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:05:58 +0100 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:05:58 +0100 (BST) From: Vivek To: Rich Martin cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] error compiling netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Rich Martin wrote: > > make[4]: Entering directory > `/home/rich/updates/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2/etc/afpd' > gcc -DUAM_RNDNUM -O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused > -Wuninitialized -I../../include -I/usr/local/include -DUSE_PAM > -DAPPLCNAME -DCRLF -c unix.c -o unix.o > unix.c:63: sys/quota.h: No such file or directory > make[4]: *** [unix.o] Error 1 [snip] > Any ideas? most of the compiling and linking options are mysterious to me. > PS: RedHat Linux 4.2 Pentium with netatalk-1.4b2 already installed > I think you need -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPERS [I think that's what it's called: check the docs] I ran into the same thing here, and the define sorted things out for me, AFAICT. -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Apr 7 08:51:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA11819 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:51:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA11804 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:51:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA25616; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:51:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA25609 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:51:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from livingstones.nl ([195.240.118.1] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA25595 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:51:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from HMS-KANTOOR.livingstones.nl ([145.49.233.108]) by livingstones.nl (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id OAA09538; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:51:52 GMT Reply-To: From: "Conrad Hagemans" To: "'Appletalk on Linux'" , Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] question on mounting apple partitions Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:54:33 +0200 Message-ID: <000a01bd6224$50b006e0$6ce93191@HMS-KANTOOR.livingstones.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello Warren, I have a linux box with red 4.2. I put an old Macintosh scsi harddisk in it and mounted it with HFS. I also use HFS to share the CD-ROM player with my apple's. mount -t hfs -o afpd /dev/scd0 /cdrom The same for disks. You can find it at http://www-sccm.stanford.edu/~hargrove/HFS/ Good Luck Conrad Hagemans chagemans@iname.com From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Apr 7 09:44:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA13509 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:44:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA13500 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:44:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA10071; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:44:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA10068 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:44:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gate.etsinc.com (etsisdn.etsinc.com [198.99.189.62]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA10034 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:44:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webco.etsinc.com by gate.etsinc.com (8.8.7/gate.etsinc.com/01-06-97) id NAA14191; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:44:05 GMT Received: from webco.etsinc.com by webco.etsinc.com (8.6.11/Webco.etsinc.com/10-03-94) id JAA09792; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:37:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:37:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Dwight Kelly To: Mark Donnelly cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, mansell@CIMtegration.COM Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] ethernet sniffer? In-Reply-To: <9903.891897362.12844235.21579@> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Mark Donnelly wrote: > Other than that, have you considered etherpeek on the Macintosh side? It > doesn't handle traffic that specifically deals with the local machine, but > it'll peek on traffic from a unix box to another mac quite well. Etherpeek is available for Windows 95 and NT also. --- Dwight Kelly Essential Technical Services, Inc. 315 Allen Street Cumming, GA 30130 voice:(770) 889-2848 fax:(770) 889-2624 Internet:dkelly@etsinc.com http://www.etsinc.com From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Apr 7 10:26:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA15036 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:26:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA15020 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:26:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA26973; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:26:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA26962 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:26:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cimteg.cimtegration.com (cimteg.cimtegration.com [199.246.8.18]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA26955 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:26:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cimteg.cimtegration.com (cimteg.cimtegration.com [199.246.8.18]) by cimteg.cimtegration.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/cimteg $Revision: 1.11 $) with SMTP id KAA13255; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:16:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:16:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Mansell Reply-To: Mike Mansell To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu cc: Andras Kadinger Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] ethernet sniffer? In-Reply-To: <35296110.C2A3E882@freeside.elte.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Thanks to all those who replied... we're trying most of the suggestions now. I didn't want to go into too much detail before on the list, but I got some queries back about what our product is and why we're making our own AFP server. If you're not interested... press DELETE now. Our product is a stand-alone 'nearline' network file server - it has an IP address and sits anywhere on the network - similar in concept to the CD/Jazz-Server from Axis, or Sun's "Netra". Right now its just NFS, but we're trying to add AFP & SMB to eliminate the extra 'hop' through a UNIX box to convert protocols (slows things down as I'm sure you all know). The system runs on a PPC604e single board VME computer, and the software is based on the VxWorks RTOS kernal (WindRiver Systems - www.wrs.com). VxWorks is UNIX-ish, so Netatalk and SAMBA are of course great models to base our projects on. The 'mass storage' part of our product is 12mm (S-VHS) tape drives that hold 50GB (uncompressed) user data per tape. If you read the 'time-to-data' part of our FAQ, you probably see that the 'caching' ideas that A.Sun and others have been discussing on the list would be very useful for our 'nearline' device. We cache tape files on disk/RAID, but if the .AppleDouble files have 'expired' in the cache, then trying to get to a folder 5 layers deep can literally take hours! We haven't gotten into the European market yet, but we have some potential customers in Britain that use Xerox DocuTech equipment. Donnelley and Quebecor are some of our customers in Printing in North America, plus a few hospitals locally are trying it out for digital X-rays and such. If you know any Hardware/Software Engineers in Canada or the US that are looking for a job related to R&D in mass storage and/or networking, get them to contact us - our product is both! Mike. -- /\ Michael G. Mansell, BSc. (SCS) Office: (416) 665-0767 x228 /\ \ Engineering Support Services clearNET:(416) 984-7839 /\ \ \ DataVation Inc., Toronto Fax: (416) 665-8285 / \ \ \ WWW.DataVation.COM Email: MikeM@DataVation.COM From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Apr 7 12:56:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA23024 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:56:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA23018 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:56:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA21738; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA21727 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA21706 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:56:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-220.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.220]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA24237 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:58:22 -0700 Message-Id: <199804071758.KAA24237@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Benchmarks done... Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:54:31 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu We've completed our benchmarks, and it was efinitely an interesting and educational ride, so to speak. The Winner in overall performance was AppleShare IP (roughly 47 mb/min). The loser in overall performance was Windows NT (Mac services, as well as using Dave 2.0 - roughly 26 mb/min) Linux and Netatalk stacked up very close to ASIP, and beat Windows NT by a fair margin as well (roughly 40 mb/min). A ton of variables affected the outcomes, including whether you push or pull, and whether you use SpeedDoubler 8.1 or not. In some cases SD had no effect, in some it actually had an adverse effect. More details will follow, and I'll post a full listing of all our numbers. Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Apr 7 12:58:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA23103 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:58:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA23093 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:58:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA01492; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:57:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA01490 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:57:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA01480 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:57:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-220.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.220]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA24279 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:00:04 -0700 Message-Id: <199804071800.LAA24279@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Addressing Volume Sizes... Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 09:56:12 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I noticed that netatalk only displays 2 GB volume sizes, as was common for AppleShare servers. ASIP can display the full volume size. Is anyone working on implementing a 'true' display of volume size under ASIP? Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 8 04:10:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA04596 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:10:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from us.itd.umich.edu (stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu [141.211.164.7]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA04592 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:10:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id EAA07588; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:10:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id EAA07586; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:10:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ren.us.itd.umich.edu by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA07582; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:10:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by ren.us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/dumb-1.0) id EAA21058; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 04:08:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199804080808.EAA21058@ren.us.itd.umich.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Dan Pritts Subject: [netatalk-admins] problems printing win95-generated ps from linux Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 04:08:46 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu hi all, i've got a strange printing problem. My setup: pentium 100 running alternately win95 or redhat 4.1 netatalk 1.4b2 rpm binary distribution from ftp.redhat.com kernel 2.0.27 also running afs on linux box last ps level 1 compatible postscript win95 drivers from ftp.adobe.com (the most recent drivers don't work with level 1) 7200/75 running macOS 8.1 w/ laserwriter bridge | ---> personal laserwriter NT on localtalk connected to pmac 7200 IIfx running 7.something The pentium and the two macs are connected via ethernet. The IIfx and the 7200 can print to the laserwriter with no problems, as you would expect. Running linux, and doing a simple "nenscript" of a text file, I can print with no problems. printing to a file on win95, and ftp'ing that file to the 7200, and printing it from there (via drag'n'drop desktop printing), works fine. the problem: Copying that same file from the (mounted) win95 partition, and lpr'ing it from linux, the pages print, and then the printer goes into an infinite loop as if it's waiting for closure of some sort. I've tried removing the control-D at the end of the windows-generated postscript, removing the CR's from the postscript file, and i think tried both of these at once. Neither of these seems to have any effect. This isn't a huge problem, since how often do you want to do that, eh? except...my eventual plan was to bring up linux on my old 386 and have it run samba and netatalk so i could print from win95 without screwing around with printing to files & ftp'ing them, and i'm afraid i'll run into similar problems in that case. If anyone's run into this or something similar, please let me know what you found out. thanks, danno --- dan pritts 734/996-0169 think i'm gonna buy myself a Rolls, maybe a Chevrolet... From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 8 08:48:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA26815 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:48:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA26811 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:48:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA09307; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:48:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA09305 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:48:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from typeline.com (www.typeline.com [209.116.143.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA09294 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:48:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from typeline.com (typeline.com [209.116.143.131]) by typeline.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA02867; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:46:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from web@typeline.com) Message-ID: <352B71A6.41C67EA6@typeline.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 08:46:30 -0400 From: Typeline Webmaster Organization: Typeline, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: a sun CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: Moved to Linux with Netatalk... References: <199804080123.SAA04852@saul6.u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu a sun wrote: > > i don't run in a zoned environment, so i can't comment much on > that. for the "no response from host" problem, look in your syslog's > and see if tcp wrappers are knocking you out. > > -a When I changed the init config for afpd from afpd -C -A -K -G -g me -c 10 -n mynetatalk to: afpd -c 10 -n mynetatalk everything worked. I suspect it was the -g option. There's still one problem I'm having with the pap implementation that manifests itself on both Linux and FreeBSD. When pap is used to download large files via ethertalk_II (10megs and up) it gets very slow, 50 - 100k/sec. I'm looking for a better implementation for downloading that I can use with a filter and the BSD lpr system. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 8 09:03:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA27761 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:03:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA27751 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:03:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA18158; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:03:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA18156 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:03:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sparty.cecom.com (creative.cecom.com [208.202.113.28]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA18146 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:03:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cecom.com ([172.28.1.39]) by sparty.cecom.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id AAA4095; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:56:40 -0400 Message-ID: <352B7598.CE07518A@cecom.com> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 09:03:20 -0400 From: "Sean A. Snyder" Organization: Campbell-Ewald Advertising X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Pritts CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] problems printing win95-generated ps from linux References: <199804080808.EAA21058@ren.us.itd.umich.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Dan Pritts wrote: > > hi all, > > i've got a strange printing problem. > > My setup: > > pentium 100 running alternately win95 or redhat 4.1 > netatalk 1.4b2 rpm binary distribution from ftp.redhat.com > kernel 2.0.27 > also running afs on linux box > last ps level 1 compatible postscript win95 drivers from ftp.adobe.com > (the most recent drivers don't work with level 1) > 7200/75 running macOS 8.1 w/ laserwriter bridge > | > ---> personal laserwriter NT on localtalk connected to pmac 7200 > IIfx running 7.something > [Stuff Deleted] > If anyone's run into this or something similar, please let me know > what you found out. I ran into a similar issue printing from Win95 boxes to AppleTalk printers. In my config, I was trying to print (via Samba) to Unix printers that were connected to the Unix servers via AppleTalk, by way of IPT's Ushare product. My config was much different from yours, but it never hurts to try... It's worth a shot... In your Win95 printer driver configuration, select the PostScript tab. The top entry, PostScript Format (or something like that) defaults to a value of "Optimize for Speed" (or something like that) in Adobe drivers. Select the "Optimize for Speed" pull-down, and then select "Archive Format". After doing this, "print" your win95 doc to a postscript file using this driver, and then FTP it to your Linux box, and then try LPRing it. Let me know if it works! Sean -- ___________________________________________ Sean A. Snyder (ssnyder@cecom.com) \ Strange but not a stranger Systems Administrator \ I'm an ordinary guy... Campbell-Ewald Advertising/C-E Communications\_________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 8 10:18:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA00186 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:18:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA00181 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:18:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA12335; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:18:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA12331 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:18:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA12272 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:18:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-29.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.29]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA13699; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 08:19:47 -0700 Message-Id: <199804081519.IAA13699@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] IP-only netatalk [formerly:Network Server 700 and netatalk] Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 07:15:49 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink To: "a sun" , cc: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Q: what do i lose by going to tcp/ip only? >A: tcp/ip based networks don't advertise services. as a result, > you'll need to know the server/printer to which you want to > connect. Hence the reason why I like AppleTalk/IP - simply because you can use the chooser, *AND* you get the benefits of TCP/IP. Granted, I can see how an AppleTalk-less afpd would be a boon to those systems that lack any AppleTalk support, or don't need it as badly, so it's definitely a good idea. It's also a great idea if you are on a large network, and don't want other departments using your resources - as long as you know what you are doing. Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 8 15:02:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA11575 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA11565 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:01:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA10384 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA19639; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA19626 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:35:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from darwin.8j.net (mail.8j.net [167.128.86.4]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA19614 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:35:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (peter@localhost) by darwin.8j.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA08721 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:36:33 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:36:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter Tromba To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] rc.atalk and or loadable module problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu with both netatalk 1.3.3 and 1.4b2 I have been trying to get a Linux 2.0.33 (slackware) box to serve files for macs. the make and make install go fine; I have edited and correctly placed the various config files, and I believe I have correctly make a kernel with loadable module support for Appletalk (Appletalk DDD). when I run my rc.atalk file, I get: loading netatalk: starting appletalk daemons:socket: Invalid argument atalkd nbprgstr papd afpd. if I just run atalkd I get the socket: Invalid argument when I run lsmod I do not see any Appletalk module and when I run /sbin/modprobe appletalk if get: /lib/modules/2.0.33/misc/appletalk.o: unresolved symbol register_snap_client /lib/modules/2.0.33/misc/appletalk.o: unresolved symbol unregister_snap_client Peter Tromba Greater Albany Public Schools From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 8 23:16:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id XAA01301 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:16:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercy.icompute.com (mercy.icompute.com [209.46.51.195]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA01297 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [209.46.51.196] (trust.icompute.com [209.46.51.196]) by mercy.icompute.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA13104 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:17:30 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: donlee_in@icompute.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:17:03 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu From: donlee_nat@mailhost.icompute.com (Donald Lee) Subject: [netatalk-admins] IP-only netatalk [formerly:Network Server 700 and netatalk] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Q: what do i lose by going to tcp/ip only? >A: tcp/ip based networks don't advertise services. as a result, > you'll need to know the server/printer to which you want to > connect. Printing is also somewhat degraded. The UNIX lpd has no "backchannel" so the more intelligent things done by appletalk printers, like telling you about paper shortages, font downloading, querying for PPD stuff and so forth are not possible. For the most part, this simply means that you have to produce "conservative" postscript, and make guesses about what's at the other end of the connection, but there are a bunch of other things you simply can't do with current protocols. -dgl- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 8 23:29:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id XAA02065 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:29:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ranger.argus-systems.com (ranger.argus-systems.com [206.221.232.80]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA02061 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:29:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (amcnabb@localhost) by ranger.argus-systems.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA01416; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:29:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:29:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrew McNabb To: Donald Lee cc: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] IP-only netatalk [formerly:Network Server 700 and netatalk] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is there any way to get UNIX to communicate better with the printer? I am curious if anyone has written anything that isn't built around line printers. On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Donald Lee wrote: > >Q: what do i lose by going to tcp/ip only? > >A: tcp/ip based networks don't advertise services. as a result, > > you'll need to know the server/printer to which you want to > > connect. > > Printing is also somewhat degraded. The UNIX lpd has no "backchannel" so > the more intelligent things done by appletalk printers, like telling you about > paper shortages, font downloading, querying for PPD stuff and so forth are > not possible. For the most part, this simply means that you have to > produce "conservative" postscript, and make guesses about what's at the > other end of the connection, but there are a bunch of other things > you simply can't do with current protocols. > > -dgl- > > ---------------------------------------------- Andrew McNabb Argus Systems Group amcnabb@argus-systems.com ---------------------------------------------- I am an International Arms Trafficker!!!!! http://online.offshore.com.ai/arms-trafficker/ ---------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 8 23:57:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id XAA03775 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:57:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA03762 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:57:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA22964; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:57:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rock.me.mtu.edu (root@rock.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.31]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA06544; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:57:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from critter.cec.mtu.edu (critter.cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.204]) by rock.me.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id XAA19747; Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:56:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 23:58:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@critter.cec.mtu.edu To: Andrew McNabb cc: Donald Lee , netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] IP-only netatalk [formerly:Network Server 700 and netatalk] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Andrew McNabb wrote: > Is there any way to get UNIX to communicate better with the printer? I am > curious if anyone has written anything that isn't built around line > printers. Well, LPRng and its associated filters do a fairly nice job of talking with HP printers, though there isn't really a facility for querying PPDs--but I have heard some talk of it. So, an lpq on the unix side will tell you "paper out" or "the printer's not answering" or "busy" and simple things like that. Whether or not the Apple-side lpr/lpq can get at this information depends on how they query LPRng's LPD. Whatever happened to that Internet Printing Initiative Thingy, I wonder. That's not it's real name, obviously, but wasn't there a working group of some kind that was working up something like this? oh well. - edan home page for LPRng: http://www.astart.com/lprng/LPRng.html From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 9 04:43:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA18265 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 04:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA18261 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 04:43:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA23040; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 04:43:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA23038 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 04:43:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gatekeep.ti.com (gatekeep.ti.com [192.94.94.61]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA23033 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 04:43:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from king.india.ti.com ([134.183.160.185]) by gatekeep.ti.com (8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA29957 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 03:43:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from kepler.india.ti.com (kepler [134.183.192.12]) by king.india.ti.com (8.8.5/8.6.10) with ESMTP id OAA19614 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:06:32 +0530 (IST) From: Ravi S Received: (from ravi@localhost) by kepler.india.ti.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) id OAA14123 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:14:17 +0530 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:14:17 +0530 Message-Id: <199804090844.OAA14123@kepler.india.ti.com> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] porting netatalk to a non-bsd system Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm trying to understand the issues involved in porting netatalk to a non-BSD non-UNIX operating system. This is an embedded system with a multitasking kernel bundled with TCP/IP. Can anybody help me here? Best Regards, Ravi +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Ravi Subramanian | Email: ravi@india.ti.com | | Texas Instruments Incorporated | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 9 06:06:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA06330 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:06:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from prawn.amxdigital.com (dns0.amxdigital.com [195.238.161.131]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id GAA06326 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:05:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phong.amxdigital.com by prawn.amxdigital.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id KAA27912; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 10:56:50 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980409110536.006c295c@amxdigital.com> X-Sender: jon@amxdigital.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 11:05:36 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu From: Jonathan Peterson Subject: [netatalk-admins] Helios EtherShare, Sun PCshare, Netatalk In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Helios EtherShare and Sun PCShare are two commercial packages that claim to do more or less what netatalk does. If anyone has experience, 1st or 2nd hand of these packages, please could they let me know how good/bad they are? We are about to grow out of our trusty Linux box onto a Sun E450, and all of a sudden there are commercial programs that might make my life easier. Or might not. And I'd love to hear what people's experiences are. -------- Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 Give me liberty or give me death or give me coffee. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 9 06:51:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA07798 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:51:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wsl.ch (jordan.wsl.ch [193.134.204.113]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA07790 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:51:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from deppeler@localhost) by wsl.ch (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25998; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:50:40 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:50:40 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199804091050.MAA25998@wsl.ch> From: Harald Deppeler MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Jonathan Peterson Cc: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Helios EtherShare, Sun PCshare, Netatalk In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980409110536.006c295c@amxdigital.com> References: <3.0.1.32.19980409110536.006c295c@amxdigital.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid X-Face: Mh`s--L<(vh_&8O~d'xLD^HL,$4NS-!gaoiH!xxNG:i/|RYz)VWGPu)5%!\y'o5^-tSeA-^ )K,w2(hn5HuQd}&Uw__usT[dU0={8cM.fi{#.H@7ul{)UD16=-5"RK_KMCKC}'s7mvP$Y2w@=WA/1f |%t\Z=Tw>TD,H7_eSBa[2QAwk*.zM^^(t}0"M6OP4HJkEd}NlknMa1Kw<^)_~A Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Jonathan Peterson writes: > Helios EtherShare and Sun PCShare are two commercial packages that claim to > do more or less what netatalk does. If anyone has experience, 1st or 2nd > hand of these packages, please could they let me know how good/bad they are? > We are about to grow out of our trusty Linux box onto a Sun E450, and all > of a sudden there are commercial programs that might make my life easier. > Or might not. And I'd love to hear what people's experiences are. I would be very much interested in those reports, too. At my former working place we were using a Linux/netatalk solution. It was ok (unstable once in a while [using the unpatched 1.4b2 distribution]). At my new working place (since April 1st) we are using Helios EtherShare on an old sun. I've no experience with it so far. However, we are planning to run it on new hardware and we're not sure whether to use EtherShare or Netatalk (or Sun PCShare). -- Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 9 07:55:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA09823 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:55:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA09819 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:54:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA10008; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:54:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA10006 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gatekeep.ti.com (gatekeep.ti.com [192.94.94.61]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA10002 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from king.india.ti.com ([134.183.160.185]) by gatekeep.ti.com (8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA28315 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:54:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from kepler.india.ti.com (kepler [134.183.192.12]) by king.india.ti.com (8.8.5/8.6.10) with ESMTP id RAA20373 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:17:44 +0530 (IST) From: Ravi S Received: (from ravi@localhost) by kepler.india.ti.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) id RAA17915 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:25:29 +0530 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:25:29 +0530 Message-Id: <199804091155.RAA17915@kepler.india.ti.com> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk on SUNOS Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm trying to install netatalk on the SunOS 4.1.3 and I would be glad if somebody could answer the following: 1. The README file in the installation says the following: > OS Versions Hardware Notes > -- -------- -------- ----- > SunOS 4.1+ Sparc kernel must have VDDRV option installed How do I install the VDDRV option in the kernel? The README.SUNOS has the following: > 1. KERNEL MODULE. This version of netatalk requires that your kernel > be configured with > > options VDDRV > > The loadable kernel module is made and installed during the normal > make and make install. Is there a configuration file in which you specify "options VDDRV"? Thanks a lot in advance. Best Regards, Ravi +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Ravi Subramanian | Email: ravi@india.ti.com | | Texas Instruments Incorporated | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 9 08:08:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA10619 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA10608 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:08:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA05812; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:08:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA05810 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:08:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gatekeep.ti.com (gatekeep.ti.com [192.94.94.61]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA05806 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:08:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from king.india.ti.com ([134.183.160.185]) by gatekeep.ti.com (8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA00247 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:08:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from kepler.india.ti.com (kepler [134.183.192.12]) by king.india.ti.com (8.8.5/8.6.10) with ESMTP id RAA06895 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:31:03 +0530 (IST) From: Ravi S Received: (from ravi@localhost) by kepler.india.ti.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) id RAA18228 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:38:48 +0530 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:38:48 +0530 Message-Id: <199804091208.RAA18228@kepler.india.ti.com> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] atalkd Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On SunOS, should atalkd be run as root? The rc.atalk has the following lines: ###################### echo -n 'loading netatalk: ' if [ -f /user/ravi/atalk/etc/netatalk.o ]; then /usr/etc/modload -sym /user/ravi/atalk/etc/netatalk.o; fi echo -n 'starting appletalk daemons:' if [ -f /user/ravi/atalk/etc/atalkd ]; then /user/ravi/atalk/etc/atalkd; echo -n ' atalkd' fi if [ -f /user/ravi/atalk/bin/nbprgstr ]; then /user/ravi/atalk/bin/nbprgstr -p 4 `hostname|sed 's/\..*$//'`:Workstatio n /user/ravi/atalk/bin/nbprgstr -p 4 `hostname|sed 's/\..*$//'`:netatalk echo -n ' nbprgstr' fi if [ -f /user/ravi/atalk/etc/papd ]; then /user/ravi/atalk/etc/papd; echo -n ' papd' fi if [ -f /user/ravi/atalk/etc/afpd ]; then /user/ravi/atalk/etc/afpd; echo -n ' afpd' fi if [ -f /user/ravi/atalk/etc/timelord ]; then /user/ravi/atalk/etc/timelord; echo -n ' timelord' fi echo '.' ###################### Can I have only the following lines in this file (rc.atalk) echo -n 'loading netatalk: ' if [ -f /user/ravi/atalk/etc/netatalk.o ]; then /usr/etc/modload -sym /user/ravi/atalk/etc/netatalk.o; fi and start the daemons as a normal user? Thanks and Best Regards, Ravi From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 9 08:29:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA12066 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:29:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA12061 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:29:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA11007; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:29:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA11005 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:29:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov (leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.127.224]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id IAA10999 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:29:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18533 invoked from network); 9 Apr 1998 12:29:16 -0000 Received: from schinder.clark.net (HELO ?168.143.5.160?) (PaulJ.Schinder@168.143.5.160) by leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov with SMTP; 9 Apr 1998 12:29:16 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199804091155.RAA17915@kepler.india.ti.com> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:27:04 -0400 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: "Paul J. Schinder" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk on SUNOS Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 5:25 PM +0530 4/9/98, Ravi S wrote: } I'm trying to install netatalk on the SunOS 4.1.3 and I would be } glad if somebody could answer the following: } } 1. The README file in the installation says the following: } } > OS Versions Hardware Notes } > -- -------- -------- ----- } > SunOS 4.1+ Sparc kernel must have VDDRV } option installed } } How do I install the VDDRV option in the kernel? The README.SUNOS } has the following: You build a new kernel and reboot. } } > 1. KERNEL MODULE. This version of netatalk requires that your kernel } > be configured with } > } > options VDDRV } > } > The loadable kernel module is made and installed during the normal } > make and make install. } } Is there a configuration file in which you specify "options VDDRV"? Yes, there is. Somewhere in /usr/share/sys, depending on the type of machine you have, there's a conf directory. (Mine's /usr/share/sys/sun4c/conf.) There's a nice little README there that tells you exactly what to do. "man config" also gives you useful information. } } Thanks a lot in advance. } } Best Regards, Ravi } } +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ } | Ravi Subramanian | Email: ravi@india.ti.com | } | Texas Instruments Incorporated | } +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ } } } } --- Paul J. Schinder NASA Goddard Space Flight Center Code 693, Greenbelt, MD 20771 schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 9 11:24:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA20934 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA20916 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:23:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA19561; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:23:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA19551 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:23:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pa.mother.com (pa.mother.com [198.93.80.101]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA19543 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:23:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([204.75.66.236]) by pa.mother.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA02542; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:23:44 -0700 X-Sender: isaac@mail.mother.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199804091208.RAA18228@kepler.india.ti.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:23:08 -0700 To: Ravi S , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Isaac Finnegan Subject: [netatalk-admins] Getting rand2num to accept passwd. Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I cannot get the recently compiled netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18 to accept logins. It is denying the password. rand2num is the authentication method and the des libs are setup correctly. The error being reported to the log file is: afpd[502]: Insecure permissions found for /home/isaac/.passwd I have tried all sorts of different permissions for this file. None seem to work. What exactly are they supposed to be? Isaac Finnegan isaac@mother.com From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 9 12:03:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA25267 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:03:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA25262 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:03:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA07584 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:42:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA26296; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:42:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA26290 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:42:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.sanet.de (rollux.sanet.de [195.4.60.3]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA26276 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 06:42:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.sanet.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with UUCP id MAA06311 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:39:55 +0200 Received: from phineas (phineas.sanet.de [194.173.180.77]) by crayxmp.sanet.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA22859 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 12:43:37 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980409124420.00c127c0@194.173.180.3> X-Sender: mferd@194.173.180.3 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 12:44:20 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Matthias FERDINAND Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Helios EtherShare, Sun PCshare, Netatalk In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980409110536.006c295c@amxdigital.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 11:05 09.04.1998 +0100, you wrote: >Helios EtherShare and Sun PCShare are two commercial packages that claim to >do more or less what netatalk does. If anyone has experience, 1st or 2nd >hand of these packages, please could they let me know how good/bad they are? Hello, to those who are just about to send their comments on these commercial packages - please let me know, too! :-) I just set up netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 on our linux box - so far no problems yet. But I've heard rumours that Helios comes with a nice admin application, so a Mac-User can manage users/groups/permissions without the need to resort to Unix commandline- or X-Windows-Tools. Regards Matthias Ferdinand From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 9 16:45:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA04118 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:45:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA04112 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:45:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA22800; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:45:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA22797 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:45:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apollo.vicon.net (apollo.vicon.net [206.64.130.20]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA22778 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:45:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pobox.com ([208.223.87.99]) by apollo.vicon.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17821 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 16:50:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <352D32A3.D5861EF4@pobox.com> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 16:42:11 -0400 From: Jason Belich Organization: The Lionhearted X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins Subject: [netatalk-admins] (slightly off topic) Has anyone tried ARNS with RH5? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I know this is slightly off topic, but has anyone tried ARNS with Redhat 5.0? Comments? Jason Belich From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 9 17:41:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA06174 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:41:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64] (may be forged)) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA06169 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 17:41:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-81.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.81]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA13524; Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:43:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199804092243.PAA13524@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: Fwd: Re: [netatalk-admins] Volume Sizes... Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:39:26 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink To: , "a sun" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > unfortunately, they tend to > be pretty silent on such things. Glad to read it's not just me encountering this 'problem'. Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 10 16:53:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA08338 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:53:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA08332 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:52:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA17390; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:52:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA17386 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:52:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ripple.isgs.uiuc.edu (ripple.isgs.uiuc.edu [128.174.173.27]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA17382 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:52:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cheyenne.isgs.uiuc.edu (cheyenne [128.174.173.11]) by ripple.isgs.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA16910 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:52:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from geoserv.isgs.uiuc.edu by cheyenne.isgs.uiuc.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA24581; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:52:52 -0500 Message-ID: <352E86A3.3C135813@geoserv.isgs.uiuc.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:52:52 -0500 From: Galen Arnold Organization: Illinois State Geological Survey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] limit guest access Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is there a way to disable guest access or restrict netatalk to the local subnet? I don't want to restrict read permission on Unix filesystems (the locals will not stand for it), but I'd like to either: 1) force netatalk users to login with their id (no guest access) or 2) restrict netatalk to the current subnet Option 1 seems best if there's a way ? -Galen -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Galen W. Arnold, systems programmer/analyst arnold@cheyenne.isgs.uiuc.edu Illinois State Geological Survey, Champaign, IL 61820 (217) 244-2514 ____________________________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 10 17:47:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA10943 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:47:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA10905 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA23980; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA23974 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PRELUDE-TO-FOUNDATION.MIT.EDU (PRELUDE-TO-FOUNDATION.MIT.EDU [18.248.1.4]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA23960 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dlamming@localhost) by PRELUDE-TO-FOUNDATION.MIT.EDU (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA06796; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:46:44 -0400 From: Dudley Lamming Message-Id: <199804102146.RAA06796@PRELUDE-TO-FOUNDATION.MIT.EDU> To: Galen Arnold cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] limit guest access In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Apr 1998 15:52:52 CDT." <352E86A3.3C135813@geoserv.isgs.uiuc.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:46:44 EDT Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Aren't guest logins restricted to the volumes listed in Applevolumes.default? I thought so, anyway. In this case, you could just delete this file, or list null volumes. ------------- Dudley Lamming 3 Ames Street, Munroe 501 (617)225-6501 Cambridge, MA, 02139 http://web.mit.edu/dlamming/www You seem a decent fellow, I hate to kill you. -And I hate to die. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 10 17:59:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA11670 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:59:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA11664 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:59:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA27419; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:59:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA27407 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:59:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ripple.isgs.uiuc.edu (ripple.isgs.uiuc.edu [128.174.173.27]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA27398 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:59:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cheyenne.isgs.uiuc.edu (cheyenne [128.174.173.11]) by ripple.isgs.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA17388; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:59:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from geoserv.isgs.uiuc.edu by cheyenne.isgs.uiuc.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA26475; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:59:17 -0500 Message-ID: <352E9634.9FAA4B7D@geoserv.isgs.uiuc.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:59:16 -0500 From: Galen Arnold Organization: Illinois State Geological Survey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dudley Lamming CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] limit guest access References: <199804102146.RAA06796@PRELUDE-TO-FOUNDATION.MIT.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Dudley Lamming wrote: > > Aren't guest logins restricted to the volumes listed in Applevolumes.default? > I thought so, anyway. In this case, you could just delete this file, > or list null volumes. > > ------------- > Dudley Lamming 3 Ames Street, Munroe 501 > (617)225-6501 Cambridge, MA, 02139 > http://web.mit.edu/dlamming/www > You seem a decent fellow, I hate to kill you. -And I hate to die. The volumes in question are listed in AppleVolumes.system. Only ~ ($HOME) is listed in AppleVolumes.default. Guest can access the volumes listed in the .system file (what I don't want). -Galen -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Galen W. Arnold, systems programmer/analyst arnold@cheyenne.isgs.uiuc.edu Illinois State Geological Survey, Champaign, IL 61820 (217) 244-2514 ____________________________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 10 18:09:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA12492 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:09:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA12487 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA02517; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA02513 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:09:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (ebv.oncology.wisc.edu [144.92.82.189]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA02507 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:09:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (aiyar@localhost) by ebv.oncology.wisc.edu with SMTP id RAA16996 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:09:39 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:09:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Ashok Aiyar To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] limit guest access In-Reply-To: <352E9634.9FAA4B7D@geoserv.isgs.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 10 Apr 1998, Galen Arnold wrote: > Dudley Lamming wrote: > > > > Aren't guest logins restricted to the volumes listed in Applevolumes.default? > > I thought so, anyway. In this case, you could just delete this file, > > or list null volumes. > > The volumes in question are listed in AppleVolumes.system. Only ~ > ($HOME) is listed in AppleVolumes.default. Guest can access the volumes > listed in the .system file (what I don't want). Read the afpd manpage. It is trivial to disable guest access by passing to afpd the "-G" command line option. Later, Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. McArdle Laboratory for Cancer Research aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 10 21:07:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA15793 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:07:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tim.xenologics.com (tim.xenologics.com [194.77.5.24]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA15789 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:07:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nemeter.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by tim.xenologics.com (8.8.5/8.6.6) with UUCP id DAA22508; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 03:06:31 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by nemeter.dinoco.de (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0yNh6d-0005evC; Fri, 10 Apr 98 18:56 MET DST Received: from localhost (bergm@localhost) by mibsbox.localnet (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA00691; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:56:27 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: mibsbox.localnet: bergm owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 18:56:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Michael Berghaus X-Sender: bergm@mibsbox.localnet To: Jonathan Peterson cc: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Helios EtherShare, Sun PCshare, Netatalk In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980409110536.006c295c@amxdigital.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Jonathan Peterson wrote: >Helios EtherShare and Sun PCShare are two commercial packages that claim to > do more or less what netatalk does. If anyone has experience, 1st or 2nd > hand of these packages, please could they let me know how good/bad they are? As Netatalk doesn't run on DigitalUnix, at work we use Helios EtherShare on a DEC Alpha. Actually, it was not me who installed the package, but our network administrator, who isn't very skilled with Apple hardware and AppleTalk. Obviously everything works fine, so the installation can't be very difficult and EtherShare seems to be as stable as netatalk. In addition, it has a nice administration tool. So, I could vote for EtherShare; it does good work. Michael --------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Berghaus Tel: ++49-(0)2202/97449 In den Hesseln 7 email: M.Berghaus@nemeter.dinoco.de D-51519 Odenthal ham: dg2kbh@dk0mwx.#nrw.deu.eu From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 10 22:02:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA16923 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:02:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA16919 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:02:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id WAA12619; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:02:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id WAA12616 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:02:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elf.soc.qc.edu (elf.soc.qc.edu [149.4.9.198]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id WAA12606 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elf by elf.soc.qc.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA05825; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:01:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 22:01:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "nick s." X-Sender: nick@elf To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] afp_addicon: Permission denied Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm using netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18 with Solaris 2.6. Occasionally I'll catch this in /var/adm/messages: Apr 9 23:03:22 rain afpd[12702]: afp_addicon: Permission denied Apr 9 23:03:24 rain last message repeated 210 times The 'repeated # times' varies. We only have about 5 Mac's sharing a world readable/writeable directory. All the machines are either MacOS 8.0 or 8.1 (that particular error came from an 8.1 machine process). Besides that error, everything has been running great for months. Is there any reason to be concerned? Also, we're not using the "new STREAMS module" for Solaris 2.6. How much of an issue is that ... or, where can I find it? thanks! From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Apr 11 07:57:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id HAA11425 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA11421 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:57:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA24765; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:57:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA24762 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:57:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id HAA24749 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 07:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AB23124; Sat, 11 Apr 98 12:57:19 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 11:56:18 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from tom (tom.tees) by scorch; Sat, 11 Apr 98 12:55:44 BST Date: Sat, 11 Apr 98 12:55:05 BST Message-Id: <8006.9804111155@tom> To: arnold@geoserv.isgs.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] limit guest access Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, > 1) force netatalk users to login with their id (no guest access) > or 2) restrict netatalk to the current subnet > > Option 1 seems best if there's a way ? Not a problem, I'm doing exactly that! Hunt down a program called mac-login this allows you to use one of three methods (I use the extension method) to force your users to login at boot-up. It allows you to auto-mount an apps & home directory from an appleserver, (I'm running asun15 on a SPARCstation) you can refuse guest access with netatalk, I also removed the option from the login window with resedit, just to make sure :) Mail me if you have problems. later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Apr 11 10:09:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA13339 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:09:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA13330 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 10:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA18501 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:28:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id XAA19889; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:28:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id XAA19886 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:28:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stevie.loop.com (stevie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.71]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id XAA19873; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 23:28:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from loop.com (jingoro@p07.hwts13.loop.net [207.211.62.172]) by stevie.loop.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA03448; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <352EE236.9CF9D6CD@loop.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 20:23:34 -0700 From: John Nishinaga X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk@umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu subscribe From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Apr 13 10:10:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA28851 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:10:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA28840 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:10:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA02610; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:10:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA02591 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:10:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ripple.isgs.uiuc.edu (ripple.isgs.uiuc.edu [128.174.173.27]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA02579 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:10:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cheyenne.isgs.uiuc.edu (cheyenne [128.174.173.11]) by ripple.isgs.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA13020 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:10:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from geoserv.isgs.uiuc.edu by cheyenne.isgs.uiuc.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA03824; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:10:37 -0500 Message-ID: <35321CDD.DFEE990A@geoserv.isgs.uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:10:37 -0500 From: Galen Arnold Organization: Illinois State Geological Survey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Ultra with hme0 panics (afpd) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Does anyone know of a fix for Sun Ultras (2.5.1 & 2.6) with hme0 interfaces, so that afpd will not panic the system? You can make those systems panic if you stop netatalk while a Mac's got a volume attached. The panic looks like (trap type = 0x31 is consistent) : BAD TRAP: cpu=1 type=0x31 rp=0x303c3568 addr=0x0 mmu_fsr=0x0 afpd: trap type = 0x31 -Galen ____________________________________________________________________________ Galen W. Arnold, systems programmer/analyst arnold@cheyenne.isgs.uiuc.edu Illinois State Geological Survey, Champaign, IL 61820 (217) 244-2514 ____________________________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Apr 13 11:31:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA02665 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:31:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA02654 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:31:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA02262 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:16:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA27376; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:16:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA27366 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:16:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wallaby.Stanford.EDU (wallaby.Stanford.EDU [36.21.0.180]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA27354 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:16:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from neilc@localhost) by wallaby.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22448; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 08:16:28 -0700 (PDT) To: Galen Arnold Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Ultra with hme0 panics (afpd) References: <35321CDD.DFEE990A@geoserv.isgs.uiuc.edu> From: Neil Crellin In-Reply-To: Galen Arnold's message of "Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:10:37 -0500" Date: 13 Apr 1998 08:16:28 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 27 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Have you applied the latest rev of the 104212 patch? (That's the 2.5.1 patch number, don't know the 2.6 one off hand) -Neil Crellin Galen Arnold writes: > Does anyone know of a fix for Sun Ultras (2.5.1 & 2.6) with hme0 > interfaces, so that > afpd will not panic the system? You can make those systems panic if you > stop netatalk while > a Mac's got a volume attached. > > The panic looks like (trap type = 0x31 is consistent) : > > BAD TRAP: cpu=1 type=0x31 rp=0x303c3568 addr=0x0 mmu_fsr=0x0 > afpd: trap type = 0x31 > > -Galen > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > Galen W. Arnold, systems programmer/analyst > arnold@cheyenne.isgs.uiuc.edu > Illinois State Geological Survey, Champaign, IL 61820 (217) > 244-2514 > ____________________________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Apr 13 12:01:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA04544 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:01:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA04497 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:01:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA15971; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:01:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA15966 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:01:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augustus0.physics.unc.edu (augustus0.physics.unc.edu [152.2.65.231]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA15956 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:01:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augustus.physics.unc.edu (augustus.physics.unc.edu [152.2.5.1]) by augustus0.physics.unc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA21528 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:59:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:01:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Yuji Shinozaki To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris x86 2.5.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Any hints on compiling netatalk (preferably with asun's modifications) on Solaris x86 (2.5.1 and eventually 2.6)? yuji ---- Yuji Shinozaki Systems Administrator yuji@physics.unc.edu Dept of Physics and Astronomy http://www.physics.unc.edu Univ. of North Carolina - CH (919)962-7214 (voice) CB 3255 Philips Hall (919)962-7214 Chapel Hill, NC 27599 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Apr 13 14:02:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA09154 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:02:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA09150 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:02:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA15810; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:02:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA15786 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:02:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ripple.isgs.uiuc.edu (ripple.isgs.uiuc.edu [128.174.173.27]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA15776 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:02:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cheyenne.isgs.uiuc.edu (cheyenne [128.174.173.11]) by ripple.isgs.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA14958 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:02:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from geoserv.isgs.uiuc.edu by cheyenne.isgs.uiuc.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA09974; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:02:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3532532B.98473F10@geoserv.isgs.uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:02:19 -0500 From: Galen Arnold Organization: Illinois State Geological Survey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Sun Ultra hme and afpd panics--fix Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Applying the latest patches for /kernel/drv/hme (104212-11 for 2.5.1 and 105791-01 for 2.6) seems to have resolved the problem with afpd causing panics on Sun Ultras with hme cards. -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Galen W. Arnold, systems programmer/analyst arnold@cheyenne.isgs.uiuc.edu Illinois State Geological Survey, Champaign, IL 61820 (217) 244-2514 ____________________________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Apr 13 15:05:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA12615 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:05:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA12611 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:05:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA11497; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:05:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id PAA11488 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:05:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fruitfly.berkeley.edu (fruitfly.BDGP.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.10.71]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA11482 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:05:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from butterfly (butterfly [169.229.10.70]) by fruitfly.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA06688 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:05:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199804131905.MAA06688@fruitfly.berkeley.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:05:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "David S." Reply-To: "David S." Subject: [netatalk-admins] Printing from Solaris to AppleTalk printers To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: 2bi/YYbos/w/d+98YX4eqA== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.0 CDE Version 1.2 SunOS 5.6 sun4m sparc Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu If anyone out there is still having trouble configuring his Solaris system to use AppleTalk printers, the script below - which I hacked from one in the 'cap60' distribution called 'add_at_printer' - worked for me. I've only tried it with 'netatalk-971027' and Solaris 2.6, but I bet it'll work for earlier versions of Solaris. (I also modified the 'lp2pap.sh' script that came with 'netatalk', changing the line $ATALKHOME/bin/pap "$6" to $ATALKHOME/etc/filters/ofpap < "$6" > /dev/null 2>&1 to get postscript conversion.) To use the script, edit the 'ATALKHOME' value accordingly, and, as 'root', add_at_printer where "AppleTalk printer name" is the one returned by 'nbplkup', and "Unix printer name" is whatever you want the printer known by on your Unix box. The original 'cap60' script was somewhat more elaborate; I cut out what I thought was the unnecessary stuff. If you'd like to see that original, drop me a line and I'll send it along. David Simas davids@flybane.berkeley.edu #!/bin/sh ATALKHOME=/mnt/tools/atalk ATPRINTER=$1 UXPRINTER=$2 if [ ! -r /etc/lp/filter.table ]; then echo "Initializing of default printer filters..." for f in `ls /etc/lp/fd | sed 's/.fd$//'`; do lpfilter -f $f -F/etc/lp/fd/$f.fd done fi if lpfilter -f atalk -l > /dev/null 2>&1; then echo "AppleTalk printer filter is already defined." else echo "Defining AppleTalk printer filter ..." cat > /etc/lp/fd/atalk.fd << EOF Input types: postscript Output types: PS Printer types: AppleTalk Printers: any Filter type: slow Command: /usr/bin/cat EOF lpfilter -f atalk -F /etc/lp/fd/atalk.fd fi if [ ! -f /usr/share/lib/terminfo/A/AppleTalk ]; then echo "Defining terminfo for AppleTalk printers ..." cat > /var/tmp/terminfo << EOF AppleTalk, cols#80, lines#66, cpi=null, csnm=^D, lpi=null, scs=^D, slines=^D, u9=^D, EOF tic /var/tmp/terminfo rm /var/tmp/terminfo fi LOCKSDIR=/var/spool/lp/tmp/AppleTalk if [ ! -d $LOCKSDIR ]; then mkdir -m 0771 $LOCKSDIR chown lp $LOCKSDIR chgrp lp $LOCKSDIR fi PSEUDODEVICE=$LOCKSDIR/$UXPRINTER touch $PSEUDODEVICE chown lp $PSEUDODEVICE chgrp lp $PSEUDODEVICE chmod 0600 $PSEUDODEVICE echo "(Re)defining $UXPRINTER ..." ( lpadmin -p $UXPRINTER -D "$UXPRINTER" \ -T AppleTalk \ -v $PSEUDODEVICE \ -I PS \ -i $ATALKHOME/etc/lp2pap.sh \ -A none && \ echo $ATPRINTER > /etc/lp/printers/$UXPRINTER/.paprc chown lp /etc/lp/printers/$UXPRINTER/.paprc chgrp lp /etc/lp/printers/$UXPRINTER/.paprc accept $UXPRINTER && \ enable $UXPRINTER \ ) || exit From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Apr 13 16:15:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA15905 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:15:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA15900 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:15:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA09656; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:15:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA09651 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:15:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA09644 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:15:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (3082@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA23151 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:15:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Reply-To: Tom To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] NetatalkPrinting-LinuxRedHat5. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Anyone have Macs printing via a LinuxRedHat5.0 machine? (The netatalk package included asun and pam patches) I'm trying to set this up for my kids class at school. (And these kids think every web page is worth printing!) Volumes mount and unmount without a problem. I have 3 Macs and 4Win95 machines and one HP560CAppleLocalTalk capable printer. The printer is connected via an AppleLocalTalk/Ethernet router. I was able to hack the RedHat printfilter to print from the Linux server via netatalk/pap. And with Samba installed the Win95 machines print without a problem. Print jobs from the Mac however hang in the spool and papstatus indicated printer is busy but nothing prints. Note that Linux and Samba generated print requests enter the spool without a machine designation. While the Macs all come in with the machine tagged to the file ex. cf437buddies.com df437buddies.com Linux and Samba generated print requests enter the spool with some sort of file(empty) like err.... No such file err437 is generated with Mac print requests. Any thoughts on what I have misconfigured/failed to configure? Thanks. -- tom | "When we are born we cry that we have tommyr@agora.rdrop.com | come to this great stage of fools!" | W. Shakespeare From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Apr 13 16:36:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA17255 for netatalk-admins-list; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:36:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA17249 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:35:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA16762; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:35:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA16757 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:35:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from library.ucsf.edu (apollo.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA16746 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 16:35:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (windy.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.85]) by library.ucsf.edu (8.8.7/8.7.5) with SMTP id NAA12857 for <@athena:netatalk-admins@umich.edu>; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (han@localhost) by windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id NAA22338 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:12:51 -0700 Message-Id: <199804132012.NAA22338@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] persistent DIDs Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:12:51 -0700 From: Michael M Han Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Okay, persistent DIDs have become *very* desirable to me and I'm trying to find a short-term solution (even if it's limited) until persistent DIDs can be issued The Right Way, which I'm assuming will take quite a while. I'm running netatalk w/ asun's 18.2 patches on a Solaris2.6 SparcStation2. Is anyone aware of ways to get persistent DIDs from netatalk? The only things I could think of, HFS-mounted filesystems, which I'm assuming store DIDs natively, and maybe AFS (which produces an FNUM-analog but I'm not sure about DIDs), aren't supported by netatalk from what I can tell. Or, to be more clear, netatalk doesn't seem to care if the filesystem is willing to provide a usable DID and generates a non-persistent one as it goes (from my reading of etc/afpd/directory.c). This does make a certain sense since it's all well-and-good for a single filesystem to be providing real DIDs but that doesn't help a volume spanning multiple, heterogenous filesystems... Can anyone think of any ways to get my afpd volumes to provide persistent DIDs in the short term? Copious thanks to anyone who can help me out here. _____ Michael Han (han@library.ucsf.edu) voice: (415) 502-7542 Interactive Learning Center Consultant (415) 476-4309 San Francisco, California 94143-0840 fax: (415) 476-4653 "I had lately learned that another way of writing FALL IN LOVE is WALK THE PLANK." - Jeanette Winterson From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Apr 14 04:00:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA14095 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:00:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA14091 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:00:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA27682; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:00:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id EAA27673 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:00:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from prawn.amxdigital.com (dns0.amxdigital.com [195.238.161.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id EAA27648 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:00:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phong.amxdigital.com by prawn.amxdigital.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id IAA00404; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:50:50 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980414090004.00d9209c@amxdigital.com> X-Sender: jon@amxdigital.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:00:04 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Jonathan Peterson Subject: [netatalk-admins] Okay, what _are_ persistent DIDs In-Reply-To: <199804132012.NAA22338@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 01:12 PM 4/13/98 -0700, Michael M Han wrote: >Okay, persistent DIDs have become *very* desirable to me and I'm *Unknown Acronym Alert!!* Can someone tell em what a persistent DID is? Thanks, -------- Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 Give me liberty or give me death or give me coffee. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Apr 14 12:24:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA17180 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:24:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA17176 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:24:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA13181; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:24:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA13178 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:24:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from library.ucsf.edu (apollo.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA13172 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:24:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (windy.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.85]) by library.ucsf.edu (8.8.7/8.7.5) with SMTP id JAA22524; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (han@localhost) by windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA23930; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:29:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199804141629.JAA23930@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> To: Jonathan Peterson cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Okay, what _are_ persistent DIDs In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:00:04 BST." <3.0.1.32.19980414090004.00d9209c@amxdigital.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:29:27 -0700 From: Michael M Han Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Oops, sorry about that. Directory IDs are an inode-ish unique number assigned to each directory on a Macintosh volume. The are complemented by FNUMs (File Numbers?) for files. Anyway, netatalk currently has some trouble with DIDs, which causes odd problems with volumes shared by afpd. Essentially, a Macintosh requires that DIDs be permanent, but due to various problems with providing them in netatalk, they aren't permanent (the way the numbers are assigned has very important differences from inode numbers assigned on Unix filesystems). As a result, Mac software that's looking for things on afpd volumes sometimes can't find what it's looking for. It's looking for a DID it expects hasn't changed, but afpd *has* changed the DIDs. There are better (and maybe more accurate) explanations of the situation in the list archives and maybe in an FAQ. Previously... >At 01:12 PM 4/13/98 -0700, Michael M Han wrote: >>Okay, persistent DIDs have become *very* desirable to me and I'm > >*Unknown Acronym Alert!!* Can someone tell em what a persistent DID is? _________ mike (han@library.ucsf.edu) Garlic gum is not funny - The collected wisdom of Bart Simpson From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Apr 14 15:49:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA26633 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:49:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA26615 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:49:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA16162; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:49:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA16156 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:49:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA16137 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:49:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20219; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:48:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rock.me.mtu.edu (root@rock.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.31]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14212; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:48:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from critter.cec.mtu.edu (critter.cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.204]) by rock.me.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id PAA11513; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:48:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:49:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@critter.cec.mtu.edu To: Michael M Han cc: Jonathan Peterson , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Okay, what _are_ persistent DIDs In-Reply-To: <199804141629.JAA23930@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Michael M Han wrote: > Oops, sorry about that. Directory IDs are an inode-ish unique number > assigned to each directory on a Macintosh volume. The are complemented > by FNUMs (File Numbers?) for files. Anyway, netatalk currently has > some trouble with DIDs, which causes odd problems with volumes shared > by afpd. I believe that Netatalk makes up DIDs that are only consistent during each session. So, it doesn't really have trouble with them, it just gives you trouble if you expect your alias to last between sessions :) I think that CAP uses some extra process to manage them. I believe that DIDs have been discussed on this list before, with no resolution that I can remember. If it were easier to search the netatalk-admin archives I'm sure one could find it. So yeah, persistent DIDs would be a nice thing, but it's going to take a very motivated individual outside of umich to get it done anytime soon, as I don't believe its a priority for them. - edan From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Apr 14 15:58:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA27250 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:58:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA27216 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:58:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA11988; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:58:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA11853 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:58:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.finan.com (www.finan.com [209.96.27.162]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA11768 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:58:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [209.96.27.174] (bill.finan.com [209.96.27.174]) by www.finan.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/finan1.1) with ESMTP id NAA01016 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:58:10 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980414090004.00d9209c@amxdigital.com> References: <199804132012.NAA22338@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:56:44 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Bill Stewart-Cole Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Okay, what _are_ persistent DIDs Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 3:00 AM -0500 4/14/98, Jonathan Peterson wrote: >At 01:12 PM 4/13/98 -0700, Michael M Han wrote: >>Okay, persistent DIDs have become *very* desirable to me and I'm > >*Unknown Acronym Alert!!* Can someone tell em what a persistent DID is? Something that has been DONE and will NEVER be undone? (Just kidding) DID = Directory ID. MacOS expects every directory to have a permanent unique ID because this allows for the beloved File System Specifier data structure (aka FSSpec) to do magical file tracking even if you do things like dismount volumes and re-arrange directory structures. The FSSpec and it's descendants in the Alias Manager are a large part of why Mac users can be so smug about not knowing or caring about full pathnames and re-arranging folders. Netatalk doesn't preserve DID's and so you can end up with programs that normally perform magic with FSSpec's and the Alias Manager getting quite confused. Quark, as an example. ---- Bill Stewart-Cole Finan Publishing From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Apr 14 16:07:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA27993 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:07:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA27985 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA26510; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:07:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA26504 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ras.realminfo.com (ras.realminfo.com [209.137.74.132]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA26499 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ras.realminfo.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id <2M8X9DLX>; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:06:55 -0400 Message-ID: From: Larry Gee To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] HFS CD-ROMs Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:06:54 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I need some suggestions on how to really fix a problem. Setup: afpd+18.2asun hfs 0.95 linux 2.0.33 I'm using afpd and hfs to primarily share CD-ROMs. Although I have read the HFS docs, and it clearly states there can be problems installing from CD, I was wondering if there are users out there who have the same problem and what they have done to fix it. My test CD's are Magic School Bus "Explores the Ocean" and Mindscape "Animals". TIA Larry Gee From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Apr 14 17:37:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA04240 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:37:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA04235 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:37:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA09531; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:37:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA09508 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:37:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kessel.connectcorp.net (kessel.connectcorp.net [209.43.130.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA09482 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:37:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from doc.cco.net ([167.72.5.185]) by doc.cco.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA25099 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:36:35 -0700 Message-ID: <3533D432.CCC94086@doc.cco.net> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:25:06 -0700 From: mt71310 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk-1.4b2-hurricane & corrupted mp3s and quicktimes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've been using 1.4b2 Hurricane in my schoolroom lab providing file services to 32 macs. Things seem to work just fine, except that a student recently discovered that his mp3s and quicktimes seemed to have acquired sharp crackling audio distortion and white speckled videio artifcacts after transferring to/from the Linux box via Netatalk. The corruption stayed with the file after the transfer. Clean files transfered to the same box via ftp showed no similar corruption. Is anyone else experiencing this? Can anyone help me? I thought it might be specific to the one box, but tried it on another model and found the same results. Could netatalk be misinterpreting quicktime binaries and mp3s for some sort of text and adding/removing cr/lfs or something...(I'm obviously shooting in the dark here) Any help would be greatly appreciated. It's heartbreaking to find such a fly in the ointment. Marc Turnbow From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Apr 14 18:37:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA11614 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:37:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA11606 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:37:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA04156; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:37:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA04153 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:37:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rintintin.sierra.com (rintintin.sierra.com [207.82.195.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA04137 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:37:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (philip@localhost) by rintintin.sierra.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA24857; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:33:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Philip Hallstrom X-Sender: philip@rintintin Reply-To: Philip Hallstrom To: samba@samba.anu.edu.au, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] File locking issues? Has it been a problem for you? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all- I'm new to both these lists so if this isn't the right place, point me in the right direction. I've got a Sun that I want to use for file services for our desktops (Mac, W95). I was planning on using netatalk and samba until I thought about the lack of file locking b/n the two. So, I started looking at other options (like Syntax's Totalnet), but it's quite a bit of money just for file locking :) My question is - for those of you who run both samba and netatalk have you had problems with files getting corrupted due to lack of file locking? If I get enough requests I'll summarize the results. Thanks! -philip -- Philip Hallstrom Technical Director philip.hallstrom@sierra.com Sierra Online Services http://www.sierra.com/ Sierra Online, Inc. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Apr 14 20:11:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA14882 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:11:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA14878 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:11:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA21632; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:11:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA21628 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:11:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritchie.loop.com (ritchie-inet.loop.com [207.211.60.70]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA21603 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:11:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from loop.com (jingoro@p13.hwts15.loop.net [207.211.62.238]) by ritchie.loop.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA07915 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:10:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jingoro@loop.com) Message-ID: <3533FA10.A33A6E7D@loop.com> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:06:40 -0700 From: John Nishinaga X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problem with copying directories References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm a new netatalk user so bear with me. ;) Configuration: Network - 10baseT ethernet with 2 nodes, linux and Macintosh linux setup - RedHat 4.2 distribution - glibc2 - kernel 2.0.33 Macintosh setup - MacOS 8.1 - OpenTransport (I think 1.1? Whatever came with MacOS 8.1) netatalk 1.42b - Compiled with "RedHat 5" patch (to get it to compile under glibc2's new header structure). - Minimal configuration files - "eth0" for atalkd.conf - nothing in/added to papd.conf - the default AppleVolumes.system with a line at the top added to point to a shared directory Problem: I'm having difficulty copying more than 1 directory to the shared directory from the Macintosh. Apparantly anytime I try to copy a batch of files that contains at least one directory not at the end (not copied last) then the Macintosh OS will complain that it couldn't create the directory on the shared folder. However, as soon as I press "OK" the directory it tried to create will pop-up. I can copy directories one at a time, as well as copy any amount of non-directory files. I should point out that I'm using Finder to copy the files. I haven't tried other utilities that have copy features yet. Anyways, if anybody knows of a solution to this problem I would be very appreciative. John From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Apr 14 21:04:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA16825 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:04:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA16821 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:03:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA05023; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA05010 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:03:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA04996 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:03:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (bandit@localhost) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with SMTP id DAA28103 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 03:03:54 +0200 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 03:03:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andras Kadinger To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] DIDs - an idea -or- I didn't read the AFP specs completely yet Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Dear List Readers, I was thinking about the DID issue, and hunted down Inside Appletalk, where in the AFP section I found a sentence stating, that a DID should never be assigned to a different directory during the lifetime of the volume. This made me think about a somewhat dirty hack, which seems to work in theory until now - please, disprove me in either direction. :-) For we can not use a DID number we already used, we should maintain a 'high water mark' for the volume, like .maxDID or .AppleDouble/.maxDID. When we create a directory (or find one without a DID, like one created in unix), we assign maxDID to its DID, store it as - let's say - .AppleDouble/.DID, and then bump .maxDID. Looking up the directory's DID is as simple as getting the value from .AppleDouble/.DID - no database lookups or other complex issues, making this approach ideally suited for use in a Quick Hack (tm) environment. If someone moves or renames the directory, the DID holds, and fulfills its purpose. If someone removes the directory then the DID is also lost, but with around 2^32 possible DIDs for a volume most of us can live for a while (remember, this is supposed to be only a quick hack :-) ) - not to mention Inside Appletalk's explicit behaviour requirement. I think, locking the volume's .maxDID as a complete file (since it doesn't hold any other information) would not be an issue for most unices netatalk runs under - I hope I don't step on a toe here. This seems to be too simple for me to believe it's right. Where am I wrong? Wesley, would this fulfill Your requirement for the DIDs to be stored in the filesystem? Would this work across NFS? Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Apr 14 22:07:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA18963 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 22:07:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA18957 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 22:06:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA29375; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 22:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA29373 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 22:06:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA29346 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 22:06:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (bandit@localhost) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with SMTP id EAA31092 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 04:06:47 +0200 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 04:06:47 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andras Kadinger To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] DIDs - an idea -or- I didn't read the AFP specs completely yet In-Reply-To: <199804150140.VAA18568@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Wesley, On Tue, 14 Apr 1998 wesley.craig@umich.edu wrote: > > From: Andras Kadinger > > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > > > Wesley, would this fulfill Your requirement for the DIDs to be stored in > > the filesystem? Would this work across NFS? > > The only thing you're missing is the need for a DID -> pathname > database. This is required for resolving aliases, in particular. > Lacking such a database means searching the filesystem for an > appropriate DID. Hmm. Then the .maxDID thing could be expanded to .DIDdb, which would only be modified when handing out a new DID, or when looking up a pathname from a DID results in a nonexistant pathname (we might want to fall back to searching the filesystem in this case, if we care about keeping Mac aliases for directories moved from unix) - so the whole file locking still might be feasible. Yes, I knew this was _rather_ lacking somewhere. > Also, there's the case where someone mounts /home, and you've already > got /home/bandit mounted. You mean AFP-mounting 'nested' volumes - subtrees? 1) We might want to say 'don't do that', just like other AFP servers do - I can not realistically imagine a scenario where such 'nested' mounting might really need working aliases, but that's only me. 2) We might want to search upwards for a .maxDID or .DIDdb thing, and use that. If the .DIDdb database stores only relative pathnames from the AFP-volume's root, using the 'parent's' one for the nested volume (prepeding the path difference) might be doable, though this is ugly at first sight. 3) We might want to do automatic .DIDdb updating/building when necessary (e.g. there is a parent/child dir with a more recent .maxDID). Did I say Quick Hack(tm)? Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Apr 14 23:25:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id XAA21202 for netatalk-admins-list; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 23:25:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id XAA21195 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 23:25:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA18581; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:40:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id VAA18578 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:40:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA18568; Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:40:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199804150140.VAA18568@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Andras Kadinger cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] DIDs - an idea -or- I didn't read the AFP specs completely yet In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 Apr 1998 03:03:54 +0200." Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:40:45 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Andras Kadinger > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Wesley, would this fulfill Your requirement for the DIDs to be stored in > the filesystem? Would this work across NFS? The only thing you're missing is the need for a DID -> pathname database. This is required for resolving aliases, in particular. Lacking such a database means searching the filesystem for an appropriate DID. Also, there's the case where someone mounts /home, and you've already got /home/bandit mounted. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 04:54:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id EAA06168 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 04:54:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id EAA06164 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 04:53:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id EAA07102; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 04:53:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id EAA07100 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 04:53:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from prawn.amxdigital.com (dns0.amxdigital.com [195.238.161.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id EAA07096 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 04:53:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phong.amxdigital.com by prawn.amxdigital.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) id JAA01466; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:44:40 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980415095402.006d1390@amxdigital.com> X-Sender: jon@amxdigital.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:54:02 +0100 To: mt71310 , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Jonathan Peterson Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk-1.4b2-hurricane & corrupted mp3s and quicktimes In-Reply-To: <3533D432.CCC94086@doc.cco.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 02:25 PM 4/14/98 -0700, mt71310 wrote: >Could netatalk be misinterpreting quicktime binaries and mp3s for some >sort of text and adding/removing cr/lfs or something...(I'm obviously >shooting in the dark here) And hitting the target. This is probably what is happening. There are two solutions that I am aware of: 1. Re-compile without CRLF transation enabled. You'll have to scour the readme's to find where it is that this needs to be commented out. I seem to remember it being slightly unobvious. This disables ALL CRLF transation, for text files too. 2. Add entries to AppleVolumes.system and AppleVolumes.default to make sure it knows they are binary files. -------- Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 "Behold the duck, it does not cluck, A cluck it lacks. It quacks." From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 05:14:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA06712 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:14:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA06704 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:13:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA07939; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:13:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA07933 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:13:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ws142.spray.fi (ws142.spray.fi [195.10.150.142]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id FAA07920 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:13:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5214 invoked by uid 500); 15 Apr 1998 09:13:49 -0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk-1.4b2-hurricane & corrupted mp3s and quicktimes References: <3533D432.CCC94086@doc.cco.net> From: Osma Ahvenlampi Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 15 Apr 1998 12:13:49 +0300 In-Reply-To: mt71310's message of Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:25:06 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 31 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu mt71310 writes: > I've been using 1.4b2 Hurricane in my schoolroom lab providing file Hurricane? That's a codename I haven't heard before (well, except that Red Hat Linux 5.0 is codenamed Hurricane). > services to 32 macs. Things seem to work just fine, except that a > student recently discovered that his mp3s and quicktimes seemed to have > acquired sharp crackling audio distortion and white speckled videio > artifcacts after transferring to/from the Linux box via Netatalk. The > corruption stayed with the file after the transfer. [..] > Could netatalk be misinterpreting quicktime binaries and mp3s for some > sort of text and adding/removing cr/lfs or something...(I'm obviously > shooting in the dark here) Shot in the dark maybe, but exactly correct anyway. Netatalk compiled with the default options will 1) assume any file with an extension it doesn't recognise is type TEXT/UNIX 2) perform CR/LF translation on all files of type TEXT. Quick fix: add the extensions to AppleVolumes.system with the correct type/creator codes (or at least codes other than TEXT). Get rid of the problem itself: recompile Netatalk (afpd) without -DCRLF. It's nothing but problems anyway, text editors can deal with linefeed differences by themselves if they're any good. -- A conclusion is simply the place where you got tired of thinking. Osma Ahvenlampi From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 05:24:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA07182 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:24:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA07176 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:24:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA00406; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:24:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA00404 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:24:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA00399 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:24:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (vivek@malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by malkav.imaginet.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA08740 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:22:58 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:22:58 +0100 (BST) From: Vivek To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk-1.4b2-hurricane & corrupted mp3s and quicktimes In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980415095402.006d1390@amxdigital.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > And hitting the target. This is probably what is happening. There are two > solutions that I am aware of: > > 1. Re-compile without CRLF transation enabled. You'll have to scour the > readme's to find where it is that this needs to be commented out. I seem to > remember it being slightly unobvious. This disables ALL CRLF transation, > for text files too. > > 2. Add entries to AppleVolumes.system and AppleVolumes.default to make sure > it knows they are binary files. Something I find useful is to make the default translation BINA/UNIX, which means that CR/LF translation only occurs if the Mac sets the type as TEXT or the default type in AppleVolumes.system is explicitly set to TEXT. That way when you mistranslate, or rather fail to translate, you err on the side of caution. -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 05:49:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA24269 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:49:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA24265 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:48:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id FAA12479; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:48:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id FAA12476 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:48:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from prawn.amxdigital.com (dns0.amxdigital.com [195.238.161.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id FAA12465 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 05:48:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phong.amxdigital.com by prawn.amxdigital.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) id KAA01532; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:39:30 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980415104852.006ce1d8@amxdigital.com> X-Sender: jon@amxdigital.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:48:52 +0100 To: Philip Hallstrom , samba@samba.anu.edu.au, netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Jonathan Peterson Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] File locking issues? Has it been a problem for you? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 03:33 PM 4/14/98 -0700, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > >I've got a Sun that I want to use for file services for our desktops (Mac, >W95). I was planning on using netatalk and samba until I thought about >the lack of file locking b/n the two. > >My question is - for those of you who run both samba and netatalk have you >had problems with files getting corrupted due to lack of file locking? Well, I ran some rudimentary tests with Microsoft word (6.0Mac and 97Win) on a Mac and PC both trying to edit the same file: Test 1. Open file on PC. Attempt to open on Mac. Opens without warnings. Make change on mac and save. Saves without warning. make change on PC and save, gives 'there has been a network or file permission error'. Test 2. Open file on a Mac. Attempt to open on a PC, gives 'word cannot open this document' but doesn't say why. Bit random and strange, basically. I might add that this is better than the WinNT 'services of Mac' does, which lets you merrily write ontop of everything. Still, it is not ideal. -------- Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 "Behold the duck, it does not cluck, A cluck it lacks. It quacks." From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 06:52:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id GAA25958 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 06:52:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA25952 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 06:52:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA16858; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 06:52:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id GAA16854 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 06:52:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from livingstones.nl ([195.240.118.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA16839 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 06:52:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from HMS-KANTOOR.livingstones.nl ([145.49.233.108]) by livingstones.nl (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id NAA01724; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:01:06 GMT Reply-To: From: "Conrad Hagemans" To: "'Larry Gee'" , Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] HFS CD-ROMs Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:56:40 +0200 Message-ID: <000001bd685d$2c4e0600$6ce93191@HMS-KANTOOR.livingstones.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello Harry, I am using almost the same setup and running without any problems. How do you mount the CD-Rom? I am using the following statement: mount -t hfs -o afpd /dev/scd0 /cdrom I also added an old Mac-harddisk to my Linux box and mount it the sameway. Runs fine. Good Luck Conrad Hagemans chagemans@livingstones.nl From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 08:59:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA28886 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:59:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA28876 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:59:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA02717; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:59:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA02715 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:59:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ripple.isgs.uiuc.edu (ripple.isgs.uiuc.edu [128.174.173.27]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA02707 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:59:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cheyenne.isgs.uiuc.edu (cheyenne [128.174.173.11]) by ripple.isgs.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA02880 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:59:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from geoserv.isgs.uiuc.edu by cheyenne.isgs.uiuc.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA17272; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:59:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3534AF41.A7951858@geoserv.isgs.uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:59:45 -0500 From: Galen Arnold Organization: Illinois State Geological Survey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] papd in 1.4b2 & Solaris 2.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've read (times 2) the 97 & 98 mail list archives and tried "pr=|/usr/bin/lp -ddest", "pr=|/usr/ucs/lpr -Pdest" in papd.conf to no avail. When a Mac client sends a job, a new papd child process starts, waits for input until it times out, then dies with: Apr 14 13:36:05 lava papd[7393]: connection timed out Apr 14 13:36:05 lava papd[7390]: child 7393 exited with 1 Has anyone out there got papd working with Solaris 2.6? -Galen -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Galen W. Arnold, systems programmer/analyst arnold@cheyenne.isgs.uiuc.edu Illinois State Geological Survey, Champaign, IL 61820 (217) 244-2514 ____________________________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 10:27:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA02120 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:27:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA02111 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:27:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA20639; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:27:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA20634 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:27:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA20618 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:27:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.100.120] ([206.170.64.102]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA21256; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:27:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199804151427.HAA21256@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk-1.4b2-hurricane & corrupted mp3s and quicktimes Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:26:00 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink To: "mt71310" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Could netatalk be misinterpreting quicktime binaries and mp3s for some >sort of text and adding/removing cr/lfs or something...(I'm obviously >shooting in the dark here) I just copied a bunch of QTs and MP3s back and forth, and no degradation of material happened. In fact, I even played some of them directly from the server, with no ill effects. Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 10:48:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA03332 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:48:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA03320 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:47:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA09192; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:47:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA09185 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:47:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA09175 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:47:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-64-190.lsan03.pacbell.net [206.170.64.190]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA22084; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:47:03 -0700 Message-Id: <199804151447.HAA22084@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk-1.4b2-hurricane & corrupted mp3s and quicktimes Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:45:56 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink To: "Jonathan Peterson" , "mt71310" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >And hitting the target. This is probably what is happening. There are two >solutions that I am aware of: So, am I the only one who had no problems at all with the QT files? >From reading the responses, it seems to me more that the MIME types aren't set right. Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 12:37:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA07623 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:37:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA07616 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:37:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA13308; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:37:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA13293 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:37:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from library.ucsf.edu (athena.library.ucsf.EDU [128.218.33.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA13228 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:37:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (windy.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.85]) by library.ucsf.edu (8.8.7/8.7.5) with SMTP id JAA06183; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (han@localhost) by windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id JAA26183; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:42:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199804151642.JAA26183@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> To: Andras Kadinger cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] DIDs - an idea -or- I didn't read the AFP specs completely yet In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 Apr 1998 04:06:47 +0200." Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:42:34 -0700 From: Michael M Han Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu A netatalk user has forwarded me his source tree in which he implements persistent DIDs. The approach he took was to derive DIDs from inode numbers, knowing full well that any volume spanning multiple filesystems will cause trouble and naturally avoiding such a thing. I'm currently in the process of un-fixing the things he's fixed in his source (various patches to fix this and that) to produce a patch that will apply cleanly to a distribution. If anyone, like me, is truly desperate for persistent DIDs, please let me know. I'd be happy to forward you a patch, once I have one that works. Thanks, Roland, for bailing me out. _________ mike (han@library.ucsf.edu) I will not Xerox my butt - The collected wisdom of Bart Simpson From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 13:54:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA12633 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:54:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA12593 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:53:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA02973; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:53:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA02948 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:53:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from infolive.ie (gateway.infolive.ie [193.120.120.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA02887 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:53:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.0.71] ([10.0.0.71]) by gateway.infolive.ie with ESMTP id <20610>; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:31:54 +0100 X-Sender: moran@10.0.0.20 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Tony Moran Subject: [netatalk-admins] Whereabouts of AFS Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:31:50 +0100 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Where can I find the source ? I can't seem to find any links or searches to d/l it... Its for an Intel Slackware box with kernel 2.0.33.. Thanks, Tony. __________________________________________________ Tony Moran Scope Communications. IT Manager http://www.infolive.ie Ph: (+353-1)-8303455 http://www.jobfinder.ie Fax: (+353-1)-8300888 Ireland's Jobs and IT resources Web Site __________________________________________________ How to complain about Spam: http://weber.ucsd.edu/~pagre/spam.html -=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "'Tis true; there's magic in the web of it;" Othello, Act 3 Scene 4 ->>!<<- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 14:00:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA13737 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:00:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA13666 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:59:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA05349; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:59:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA05345 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:59:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from library.ucsf.edu (apollo.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA05335 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:59:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (windy.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.85]) by library.ucsf.edu (8.8.7/8.7.5) with SMTP id KAA07667; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (han@localhost) by windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id LAA26442; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:04:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199804151804.LAA26442@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> To: Tony Moran cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Whereabouts of AFS In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:31:50 BST." Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:04:43 -0700 From: Michael M Han Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Previously... >Where can I find the source ? I can't seem to find any links >or searches to d/l it... Someone can correct me if I'm wrong here, but AFS is the Andrew FileSystem, a commercial product from TransArc (http://www.transarc.com/). I don't believe there is a freely-available (think freedom *or* free beer) implementation. _________ mike (han@library.ucsf.edu) The Pledge of Allegiance does not end with Hail Satan - The collected wisdom of Bart Simpson From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 14:22:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA18042 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:22:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA17986 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:21:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA13196; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:21:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA13188 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:21:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ml.media.mit.edu (ml.media.mit.edu [18.85.13.107]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA13163 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:21:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [18.85.5.145] (ixtapa.media.mit.edu [18.85.5.145]) by ml.media.mit.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA03236 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:21:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: tomi@ml.media.mit.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:21:39 -0400 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Tomas Revesz Subject: [netatalk-admins] non-cleartext passwords... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all, I've been running a netatalk server quite happily on a solaris 2.6 box for the past few months and am now looking to take the next step in security with it. I think i have all of the pieces but have no idea how to put them together. Here's the situation. We are running asun's 18.2 version of netatalk. i have the authman UAM, control panel, and Desk accessory. I'm going to recompile using the des and kerberos stuff from the mit/cygnus kerberos 4 package. am i on the right track? that's pretty much all i've been able to figure out from all of the docs and readme's i've looked at. All i really care about doing is not sending user passwords in cleartext to the server. so here's the questions: 1. Do i need to go through all this trouble or is there a simpler way to scramble passwords between client and server? 2. If i'm only using this stuff for authentication at login time, what can i leave out from the kerberos/afs instructions? we don't use afs at all. 3. The authman control panel and UAM seem to load happily but when i try to use the DA that comes with the package it locks up my machine. Do i need the DA to have authman function? is there a newer version of the authman stuff than 1.09A and UAM 1.1? further details...i'm running mostly OS8 and 8.1 on 601 powermacs and 603 and 604 starmax clones. my testing is being done from a Starmax 4000/200 running 8.1. thanks for any help, instructions, or pointers anyone can provide! tomas -- Tomas Revesz MIT Media Lab From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 15:02:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA22135 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA22124 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:02:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA03539; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:02:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA03536 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:02:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from infolive.ie (gateway.infolive.ie [193.120.120.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA03526 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:02:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.0.71] ([10.0.0.71]) by gateway.infolive.ie with ESMTP id <20610>; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:40:45 +0100 X-Sender: moran@10.0.0.20 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199804151804.LAA26442@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> References: Your message of "Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:31:50 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Tony Moran Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Whereabouts of AFS Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:40:39 +0100 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Previously... >Someone can correct me if I'm wrong here, but AFS is the Andrew >FileSystem, a commercial product from TransArc >(http://www.transarc.com/). I don't believe there is a >freely-available (think freedom *or* free beer) implementation. Oh..ok.. (showing his ingenue now) So how come support for it is provided for it in Asuns 1.4b2 distribution - where does AFS fit into the Netatalk picture ? Sorry for all the questions..but..you know.. as they say, if ya dont ask the questions.. Cheers, Tony. __________________________________________________ Tony Moran Scope Communications. IT Manager http://www.infolive.ie Ph: (+353-1)-8303455 http://www.jobfinder.ie Fax: (+353-1)-8300888 Ireland's Jobs and IT resources Web Site __________________________________________________ How to complain about Spam: http://weber.ucsd.edu/~pagre/spam.html -=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "'Tis true; there's magic in the web of it;" Othello, Act 3 Scene 4 ->>!<<- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 15:52:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA24300 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:52:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA24254 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:52:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA26370; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:52:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA26364 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:52:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augustus0.physics.unc.edu (augustus0.physics.unc.edu [152.2.65.231]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA26352 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:52:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from augustus.physics.unc.edu (augustus.physics.unc.edu [152.2.5.1]) by augustus0.physics.unc.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA20743; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:50:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:52:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Yuji Shinozaki To: Tony Moran cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Whereabouts of AFS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Tony Moran wrote: > >Previously... > >Someone can correct me if I'm wrong here, but AFS is the Andrew > >FileSystem, a commercial product from TransArc > >(http://www.transarc.com/). I don't believe there is a > >freely-available (think freedom *or* free beer) implementation. > > Oh..ok.. (showing his ingenue now) So how come support for it is provided > for it in Asuns 1.4b2 distribution - where does AFS fit into the Netatalk > picture ? > > Sorry for all the questions..but..you know.. as they say, if ya dont ask > the questions.. > Well, er, that means that if you have AFS, Asun's distribution will support it. It does not provide you with AFS or anything like that... Or am I missing something here. Access to AFS filesystems requires authentication and authorization via AFS' version of kerberos. Without support for AFS, something like netatalk would not be able to access those files on AFS volumes properly. yuji ---- Yuji Shinozaki Systems Administrator yuji@physics.unc.edu Dept of Physics and Astronomy http://www.physics.unc.edu Univ. of North Carolina - CH (919)962-7214 (voice) CB 3255 Philips Hall (919)962-7214 Chapel Hill, NC 27599 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 17:18:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA28346 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:18:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA28340 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:18:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA06490; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:18:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA06486 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:18:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.matav.hu (castor.matav.net [145.236.224.250]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id RAA06462 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:18:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11146 invoked from network); 15 Apr 1998 23:18:26 +0200 Received: from line-209-187.dial.matav.net (HELO incze.matav.hu) (root@145.236.209.187) by mail.matav.hu with SMTP; 15 Apr 1998 23:18:26 +0200 Received: (from incze@localhost) by incze.matav.hu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA00988; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 22:00:18 +0200 From: Incze Lajos Message-Id: <199804152000.WAA00988@incze.matav.hu> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] DIDs - an idea -or- I didn't read the AFP specs completely yet To: bandit@freeside.elte.hu (Andras Kadinger) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 22:00:18 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: from "Andras Kadinger" at Apr 15, 98 03:03:54 am Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > For we can not use a DID number we already used, we should maintain a > 'high water mark' for the volume, like .maxDID or .AppleDouble/.maxDID. > When we create a directory (or find one without a DID, like one created in > unix), we assign maxDID to its DID, store it as - let's say - > .AppleDouble/.DID, and then bump .maxDID. My idea was to use the unsigned long returned by time(). Then the TIME will maintain your uniqness. And no need for the .maxDID bump which has a race condition. > This seems to be too simple for me to believe it's right. Seems to work. Incze From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 17:30:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA29437 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:30:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA29432 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:30:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA27485 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:58:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA27681; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:58:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id QAA27679 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:58:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhub.hitchcock.org (MAILHUB.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.100]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id QAA27664 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:58:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailbox2.Hitchcock.ORG (MAILBOX2.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.142]) by mailhub.hitchcock.org (8.6.12-DND/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA26159; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:58:05 -0400 Message-id: <1576640@mailbox2.Hitchcock.ORG> Date: 15 Apr 98 16:58:05 EDT From: William.P.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG (William P. McGonigle) Reply-To: Bill.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Whereabouts of AFS To: moran@scope.ie, netatalk-admins@umich.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --- Tony Moran wrote: Oh..ok.. (showing his ingenue now) So how come support for it is = provided for it in Asuns 1.4b2 distribution - where does AFS fit into the = Netatalk picture ? --- end of quote --- Strictly, it's provided in the asun distribution because it's = provided in the UMich distribution. It's provided in the UMich distribution because they (presumably) = use AFS at UMich. Say, for instance, you want AppleShare access to ten different = machines. Or a hundred machines, or a thousand machines. You probably don't want to run that many copies of netatalk. So, you run netatalk on one machine and access the drives on the = other machines through AFS. Why AFS and not, say NFS? For one, it supports Kerberos principals = for file permissions. Say you have an insanely huge number of users, like hundreds of = thousands. You want to store those users' names and passwords = exactly once so you don't need an army of account administrators. = Then you use a UAM that authenticates you off of Kerberos for = access to netatalk. =20 One name and password works everywhere. Slick, eh? -Bill PS AFS now stands for AFS. It used to stand for Andrew File = System, then Transarc bought it so it's not part of Andrew (CMU) = anymore. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 17:45:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA00485 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:45:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA00475 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:45:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA05017; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:45:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA05010 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:45:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ranger.argus-systems.com (ranger.argus-systems.com [206.221.232.80]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA05006 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:45:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (amcnabb@localhost) by ranger.argus-systems.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA19743; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:44:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:44:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrew McNabb To: Incze Lajos cc: Andras Kadinger , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] DIDs - an idea -or- I didn't read the AFP specs completely yet In-Reply-To: <199804152000.WAA00988@incze.matav.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu What happens if you change your system clock (esp. dailylight savings)? Also, what if you have two files created during the same second (not unlikely if you have a big system). On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Incze Lajos wrote: > > For we can not use a DID number we already used, we should maintain a > > 'high water mark' for the volume, like .maxDID or .AppleDouble/.maxDID. > > When we create a directory (or find one without a DID, like one created in > > unix), we assign maxDID to its DID, store it as - let's say - > > .AppleDouble/.DID, and then bump .maxDID. > > My idea was to use the unsigned long returned by time(). Then the > TIME will maintain your uniqness. And no need for the .maxDID bump > which has a race condition. > > > This seems to be too simple for me to believe it's right. > > Seems to work. Incze > ---------------------------------------------- Andrew McNabb Argus Systems Group amcnabb@argus-systems.com ---------------------------------------------- I am an International Arms Trafficker!!!!! http://online.offshore.com.ai/arms-trafficker/ ---------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 17:46:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA00580 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA00559 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:45:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA05199; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:45:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA05197 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:45:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ranger.argus-systems.com (ranger.argus-systems.com [206.221.232.80]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA05188 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:45:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (amcnabb@localhost) by ranger.argus-systems.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA19747; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:45:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:45:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrew McNabb To: Michael M Han cc: Andras Kadinger , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] DIDs - an idea -or- I didn't read the AFP specs completely yet In-Reply-To: <199804151642.JAA26183@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Can you work with Adrian and see if you can have it put into his patchset soon (assuming it works well)? I would really appreciate it. On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Michael M Han wrote: > A netatalk user has forwarded me his source tree in which he > implements persistent DIDs. The approach he took was to derive DIDs > from inode numbers, knowing full well that any volume spanning > multiple filesystems will cause trouble and naturally avoiding such a > thing. > > I'm currently in the process of un-fixing the things he's fixed in his > source (various patches to fix this and that) to produce a patch that > will apply cleanly to a distribution. If anyone, like me, is truly > desperate for persistent DIDs, please let me know. I'd be happy to > forward you a patch, once I have one that works. > > Thanks, Roland, for bailing me out. > _________ > mike (han@library.ucsf.edu) > I will not Xerox my butt > - The collected wisdom of Bart Simpson > ---------------------------------------------- Andrew McNabb Argus Systems Group amcnabb@argus-systems.com ---------------------------------------------- I am an International Arms Trafficker!!!!! http://online.offshore.com.ai/arms-trafficker/ ---------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 17:50:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA01124 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:50:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA01108 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:50:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA00812 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:47:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA05563; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:47:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA05554 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:47:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pop2.sugar-land.omnes.net (pop2.sugar-land.omnes.net [163.185.24.201]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA05531 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [163.185.167.195] by pop2.sugar-land.omnes.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-45016U1500L2S100) with ESMTP id AAA10377; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:48:27 -0500 X-Sender: garyb@pop2.sugar-land.omnes.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199804152000.WAA00988@incze.matav.hu> References: from "Andras Kadinger" at Apr 15, 98 03:03:54 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:45:44 -0500 To: Incze Lajos , bandit@freeside.elte.hu (Andras Kadinger) From: "Gary E. Bickford" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] DIDs - an idea -or- I didn't read the AFP specs completely yet Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Time has only one-second granularity. This is OK for many things, but (IMHO) not quite enough for very active servers. There are some "unique" functions around based on a combination of time and system clock that would work, however. There is a function called uniqid () in the PHP source library (available under the GNU license at http://php.iquest.net, or http://www.php.net for the new version 3), which uses gettimeofday. This code is not directly usable, as it is specific to the PHP data structures. but may be useful to someone on the list. gettimeofday((struct timeval *)&tv, (struct timezone *)NULL); sec = (int)tv.tv_sec; usec = (int)(tv.tv_usec % 1000000); /* The max value usec can have is 0xF423F, so we use only five hex * digits for usecs: */ sprintf(uniqid, "%s%08x%05x", prefix, sec, usec); Push(uniqid, STRING); GEB At 3:00 PM -0500 4/15/98, Incze Lajos wrote: >> For we can not use a DID number we already used, we should maintain a >> 'high water mark' for the volume, like .maxDID or .AppleDouble/.maxDID. >> When we create a directory (or find one without a DID, like one created in >> unix), we assign maxDID to its DID, store it as - let's say - >> .AppleDouble/.DID, and then bump .maxDID. > >My idea was to use the unsigned long returned by time(). Then the >TIME will maintain your uniqness. And no need for the .maxDID bump >which has a race condition. > >> This seems to be too simple for me to believe it's right. > >Seems to work. Incze From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 17:57:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA01992 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA01977 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:57:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA01754; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:57:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id RAA01738 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:57:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nic.the.net (nic.the.net [146.6.62.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA01731 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bubba.ots.utexas.edu ("port 2199"@bubba.ots.utexas.edu) by nic.the.net (PMDF V5.1-9 #26857) with SMTP id <01IVWM0D8RZU00079A@nic.the.net> for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:57:33 CDT Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:57:31 -0500 From: "Donald L. Nash" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] DIDs - an idea -or- I didn't read the AFP specs completely yet To: Andrew McNabb Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Message-id: <26566077.3101648251@bubba.ots.utexas.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mulberry (MacOS) [1.3.3, s/n U-300790] Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 4:44 PM -0500 "Andrew McNabb" wrote: > What happens if you change your system clock (esp. dailylight savings)? Unix clocks tick GMT, so that isn't a problem. > Also, what if you have two files created during the same second (not > unlikely if you have a big system). You would need to have two *directories* created during the same second, which is more rare but a problem nevertheless. The .maxDID or .DIDdb ideas fix that problem, and the race condition that Incze mentioned can be fixed with file locking. -- Donald L. Nash, , PGP Key ID: 0x689DA021 The University of Texas System Office of Telecommunication Services PGP Key Fingerprint: D6D2 CBEE 8F56 60B2 736C 031A A1E0 AF3D From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 18:05:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA02692 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:05:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA02681 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:05:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA11157; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:05:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA11148 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:05:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ranger.argus-systems.com (ranger.argus-systems.com [206.221.232.80]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA11135 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:05:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (amcnabb@localhost) by ranger.argus-systems.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA19870; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:05:06 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:05:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrew McNabb To: "Donald L. Nash" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] DIDs - an idea -or- I didn't read the AFP specs completely yet In-Reply-To: <26566077.3101648251@bubba.ots.utexas.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Donald L. Nash wrote: > --On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 4:44 PM -0500 "Andrew McNabb" > wrote: > > > What happens if you change your system clock (esp. dailylight savings)? > > Unix clocks tick GMT, so that isn't a problem. > I guess dailylight savings wouldn't be a problem because of GMT, but people still change system clocks because PCs invariably deviate quite quickly. ---------------------------------------------- Andrew McNabb Argus Systems Group amcnabb@argus-systems.com ---------------------------------------------- I am an International Arms Trafficker!!!!! http://online.offshore.com.ai/arms-trafficker/ ---------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 18:08:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA03114 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:08:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA03102 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:08:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA06083; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:08:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA06075 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:08:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nic.the.net (nic.the.net [146.6.62.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA06071 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:08:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bubba.ots.utexas.edu ("port 2202"@bubba.ots.utexas.edu) by nic.the.net (PMDF V5.1-9 #26857) with SMTP id <01IVWME6PQZM00079A@nic.the.net> for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:08:39 CDT Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:08:40 -0500 From: "Donald L. Nash" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] DIDs - an idea -or- I didn't read the AFP specs completely yet To: "Gary E. Bickford" Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Message-id: <26606329.3101648920@bubba.ots.utexas.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mulberry (MacOS) [1.3.3, s/n U-300790] Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 4:45 PM -0500 "Gary E. Bickford" wrote: > gettimeofday((struct timeval *)&tv, (struct timezone *)NULL); > sec = (int)tv.tv_sec; > usec = (int)(tv.tv_usec % 1000000); > > /* The max value usec can have is 0xF423F, so we use only five hex > * digits for usecs: > */ > sprintf(uniqid, "%s%08x%05x", prefix, sec, usec); > Push(uniqid, STRING); This won't work and cannot easily be made to work because DIDs are only 32 bits long. I looked into using inode numbers combined with major and minor device numbers to create an inode-based DID that worked for volumes which span filesystems, but had to give up on it because inode numbers are 24 bits long and major and minor device numbers are each 8 bits long. I couldn't figure out a way to cram 40 bits into 32 without the possibility of collision. :-) The directory/.DID and volume/.DIDdb ideas sound the best so far. -- Donald L. Nash, , PGP Key ID: 0x689DA021 The University of Texas System Office of Telecommunication Services PGP Key Fingerprint: D6D2 CBEE 8F56 60B2 736C 031A A1E0 AF3D From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 18:17:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA03996 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:17:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from us.itd.umich.edu (stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu [141.211.164.7]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA03984 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA18320; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA18314; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:17:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ren.us.itd.umich.edu by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA18304; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:17:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by ren.us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/dumb-1.0) id SAA08020; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:16:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:16:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Pritts To: Bill.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG cc: moran@scope.ie, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Whereabouts of AFS In-Reply-To: <1576640@mailbox2.Hitchcock.ORG> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On 15 Apr 1998, William P. McGonigle wrote: > It's provided in the UMich distribution because they (presumably) use > AFS at UMich. definitely > Say, for instance, you want AppleShare access to ten different > machines. Or a hundred machines, or a thousand machines. > So, you run netatalk on one machine and access the drives on the > other machines through AFS. While theoretically accessing afs does allow you to have access to ten or a hundred or a thousand machines' files, it doesn't work really as you describe. In practice, you don't just make j.random.machine an AFS file server and serve its local files to all the other machines at your installation; you dedicate machines to afs file service (as well as authentication and other database services) and store (perhaps all) your files on the afs servers. The unix clients see a filesystem tree (usually) mounted under /afs and can see your AFS cell under, eg, /afs/umich.edu/. Other afs cells are also available, if their adminisrators have chosen to announce them and/or aren't filtering out afs traffic on their internet links. Performance is much better than NFS in WAN applications since each client has a local disk cache of AFS files. Each server can handle many many more clients than an NFS server due to the client-side caching. There is a Windows NT client as well. Earlier windows and macs must have some sort of translation done to access files in /afs. samba is typically used for this for windows; netatalk for macs (cap may work also, i don't know). One downside is that the client side of AFS requires significant kernel-level work, and transarc doesn't support every unix under the sun (you can, though, make an AFS-NFS translator much like you would use netatalk), and has had some reliability problems (eg, under solaris 2.3). dan pritts 734/996-0169 think i'm gonna buy myself a Rolls, maybe a Chevrolet... From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 21:51:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA11910 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:51:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA11899 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:51:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA08318 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:05:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA29574; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:05:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA29563 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:05:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pop2.sugar-land.omnes.net (pop2.sugar-land.omnes.net [163.185.24.201]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA29557 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:05:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [163.185.167.195] by pop2.sugar-land.omnes.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-45016U1500L2S100) with ESMTP id AAA13788; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:06:38 -0500 X-Sender: garyb@pop2.sugar-land.omnes.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <26606329.3101648920@bubba.ots.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:03:14 -0500 To: "Donald L. Nash" From: "Gary E. Bickford" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] DIDs - an idea -or- I didn't read the AFP specs completely yet Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 5:08 PM -0500 4/15/98, Donald L. Nash wrote: >This won't work and cannot easily be made to work because DIDs are only 32 >bits long. I looked into using inode numbers combined with major and minor >device numbers to create an inode-based DID that worked for volumes which >span filesystems, but had to give up on it because inode numbers are 24 bits >long and major and minor device numbers are each 8 bits long. I couldn't >figure out a way to cram 40 bits into 32 without the possibility of >collision. :-) Yeah, I didn't work out the details (mainly 'cause I don't know whereof I speak :) - but your last point reminds me of gray coding, which does just that, and the result is always unique, though not sequential. I forget how it works... GEB From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Apr 15 22:51:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA13829 for netatalk-admins-list; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 22:51:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA13825 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 22:51:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA21977; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 22:51:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA21975 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 22:51:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from davinci (davinci.anu.edu.au [150.203.45.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA21958 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 22:51:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from faceng.anu.edu.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by davinci (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA04900 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:51:24 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3535722A.64D8E98@faceng.anu.edu.au> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:51:22 +1000 From: Robert Edwards Organization: Department of Engineering, ANU, Australia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4c) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Anomoly in nbplkup Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I first noticed a slight anomoly (sp?) in netatalk-1.3.3 which I reported back to the folk at U. Mich but it remained in netatalk-1.4b2 and I have just downloaded Adrian Sun's patched code from U. Washington and found the same "bug". The problem is in the asciize() routine that uses the standard C functions isascii() and toascii() to convert non 7-bit extended Macintosh characters to 7-bit characters by zeroing the 8th bit before printing them on a Unix device. I have an Asante Ether*Print box on my network (the '*' in the middle of the name is actually a big dot on a Macintosh). I can't recall the actual 8-bit code that renders this dot on a Mac, but when it is toascii()'d, it turns into some obnoxious control character that stuffs up the character mapping on the console driver on a Linux box (at least, at version 2.0.27). I replaced the code in the asciize() routine with code that renders an '*' if the 8-bit - 7-bit conversion yields a non-printing character (hence my Asante box now appears as an Ether*Print). If this problem has affected anyone else, my solution is to modify asciize(): if ( !isascii( *p )) { *p = toascii( *p ); if ( !isprint( *p )) *p = '*'; } Cheers, Bob Edwards, Computer and Robotics Engineer, e-mail: bob@faceng.anu.edu.au Department of Engineering, phone: (+61) 2 6249 4090 Australian National University, fax: (+61) 2 6249 0506 Canberra, AUSTRALIA, 0200 mobile: (+61) 0416 166 761 WWW: http://spigot.anu.edu.au/people/bob/home.html From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 01:13:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id BAA25429 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 01:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA25425 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 01:13:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id BAA19264; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 01:13:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id BAA19261 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 01:13:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.eee.org (mail.eee.org [163.150.39.253]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id BAA19250 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 01:13:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [163.150.23.111] (rduser119.eee.org [163.150.23.111]) by mail.eee.org (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA01880 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 1998 22:13:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: samuel@pop.eee.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 22:18:47 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Samuel Clements Subject: [netatalk-admins] Printing to a LaserWriter IInt... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu All, I am in the process of adding a LaserWriter IInt to a mixed mac & pc network. I have been looking at two different ways to do this. 1) Serial connection to a Linux box and 'sharing' the printer over Netatalk & Samba, or 2) Dedicating an SE/30 as a localtalk gateway and printing over AppleTalk from the macs & Linux machine, and setting up Samba to provide services to the PC's via the AppleTalk connection to the printer from the Linux box. Does any one have any advice/hints/suggestions on which route is better or if there is another way I should be doing this? Thanks in advance -Samuel Clements From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 05:54:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id FAA16346 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 05:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA16342 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 05:54:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA16749; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 05:54:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id FAA16747 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 05:54:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from valerie.inf.elte.hu (valerie.inf.elte.hu [157.181.50.3]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA16378 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 05:49:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (szoli@localhost) by valerie.inf.elte.hu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA12266 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:49:30 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:49:30 +0200 (MET DST) From: SEBESTYEN Zoltan To: Netatalk admins mailinglist Subject: [netatalk-admins] On printing to an AppleTalk printer Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm still having problems with printing to an Atalk printer via netatalk. I can print from my netatalk server to the printers from command line and the Macs know about the netatalk printer I created, but when I start a print job from a Mac then the file to be printed arrives to the spool directory and papd says the printer is being off-line and the printing jobs stops there. Anyone have some suggestions what to do or could send me a working example config file? Thanks in advance From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 08:56:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA19200 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:56:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA19196 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:56:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA17102; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:56:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id IAA17097 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:56:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from postoffice.onu.edu (postoffice.onu.edu [140.228.10.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA17086 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:56:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [140.228.15.35] (asterion.onu.edu [140.228.15.35]) by postoffice.onu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18499; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:56:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <26566077.3101648251@bubba.ots.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:57:32 -0400 To: Andrew McNabb , "Donald L. Nash" From: Robert Beer Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] DIDs - an idea -or- I didn't read the AFP specs completely yet Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 6:05 PM -0400 4/15/98, Andrew McNabb wrote: >On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Donald L. Nash wrote: > >> --On Wed, Apr 15, 1998 4:44 PM -0500 "Andrew McNabb" >> wrote: >> >> > What happens if you change your system clock (esp. dailylight savings)? >> >> Unix clocks tick GMT, so that isn't a problem. >> > >I guess dailylight savings wouldn't be a problem because of GMT, but >people still change system clocks because PCs invariably deviate quite >quickly. I don't understand all of the technical subtlties, but while you are talking about clock changes what about the action on xntpd and the adjustments it makes to keep correct time. Just a thought. --- Bob Beer Ohio Northern University, Academic Computer Services, Ada, OH 45810 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 09:21:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA20268 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:21:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA20263 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:21:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA29938; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA29934 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:21:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ocee.groupsys.com (ocee.groupsys.com [155.229.202.35]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA29909 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:21:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ocee.groupsys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ocee.groupsys.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA09619; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:21:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199804161321.JAA09619@ocee.groupsys.com> To: Robert Beer cc: Andrew McNabb , "Donald L. Nash" , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] DIDs - an idea -or- I didn't read the AFP specs completely yet In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:57:32 EDT." Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:21:16 -0400 From: William LeFebvre Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > I don't understand all of the technical subtlties, but while you are > talking about clock changes what about the action on xntpd and the > adjustments it makes to keep correct time. Just a thought. xntp does its thing by slewing the clock (not explicitly setting it). Speifically, it calls "adjtime" which tells the kernel to speed up or slow down the time clock for a period of time. See "man adjtime" for details. William LeFebvre Group sys Consulting +1 770 813 3224 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 09:48:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA21333 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:48:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA21327 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:48:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id FAA16237 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 05:44:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id FAA16062; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 05:44:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id FAA16059 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 05:44:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from papaya.mail.easynet.net (papaya.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.40]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id FAA16055 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 05:44:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199804160944.FAA16055@twins.rs.itd.umich.edu> Received: (qmail 16556 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1998 09:43:58 -0000 Received: from baboon-filt-18.rmplc.co.uk (HELO sandra.pcservices.com) (194.154.10.18) by papaya.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 16 Apr 1998 09:43:58 -0000 From: "Johan Meiring" To: Cc: , Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] File locking issues? Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:30:21 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I had a Linux server setup with Samba 1.9.17alpha4 (also 1.9.16p11) and netatalk (I think 1.3.1 or something of the sort). File locking was working perfectly, from both sides. The PC told you it could only open the file read-only, and the Mac refused to open it, if the other has the file open. Is file locking enabled on your samba server? Unfortunately the Linux server was killed about 4 months ago, and I can not remeber more info. Johan Meiring >At 03:33 PM 4/14/98 -0700, Philip Hallstrom wrote: > >> >>I've got a Sun that I want to use for file services for our desktops (Mac, >>W95). I was planning on using netatalk and samba until I thought about >>the lack of file locking b/n the two. >> >>My question is - for those of you who run both samba and netatalk have you >>had problems with files getting corrupted due to lack of file locking? > >Well, I ran some rudimentary tests with Microsoft word (6.0Mac and 97Win) >on a Mac and PC both trying to edit the same file: > >Test 1. Open file on PC. Attempt to open on Mac. Opens without warnings. >Make change on mac and save. Saves without warning. make change on PC and >save, gives 'there has been a network or file permission error'. > > >Test 2. Open file on a Mac. Attempt to open on a PC, gives 'word cannot >open this document' but doesn't say why. > >Bit random and strange, basically. I might add that this is better than the >WinNT 'services of Mac' does, which lets you merrily write ontop of >everything. Still, it is not ideal. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 09:48:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA21361 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:48:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA21337 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:48:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA17264 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 06:38:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id GAA20309; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 06:38:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id GAA20306 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 06:38:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.sanet.de (rollux.sanet.de [195.4.60.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id GAA20302 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 06:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.sanet.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with UUCP id MAA27054 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:35:32 +0200 Received: from teapot (schlunz@195-4-61-42.sanet.de [195.4.61.42]) by crayxmp.sanet.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA02520 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:38:37 +0200 Message-ID: <3535DF66.3D3E9380@sanet.de> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:37:26 +0200 From: Matthias Ferdinand X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Type Manager / CD Writer / Zip Drives? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, does somebody know of a solution for managing fonts from a Unix (in this case: Linux) server, such as Adobe Type Manager does on a Mac? We have some customers who consider Linux/netatalk as an alternative, but they want to have their font manager to reside on the server machine. Is it possible to write to CDs and ZIP drives in Mac Format from a Unix box? I figure that reading them would not be too difficult using a HFS driver, but writing? If somebody has any hints, I really would like to hear from you - thanks! Regards, Matthias Ferdinand From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 09:48:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA21377 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:48:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA21352 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:48:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA18004 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:12:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA22991; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:12:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id HAA22987 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id HAA22983 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA29133 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:12:27 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:12:26 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk Reply-To: Alistair Riddell cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Anomoly in nbplkup In-Reply-To: <3535722A.64D8E98@faceng.anu.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Robert Edwards wrote: [snip] > I replaced the code in the asciize() routine with code that renders an '*' > if the 8-bit - 7-bit conversion yields a non-printing character (hence my > Asante box now appears as an Ether*Print). > > If this problem has affected anyone else, my solution is to modify asciize(): > if ( !isascii( *p )) { > *p = toascii( *p ); > if ( !isprint( *p )) > *p = '*'; > } It might be a better idea to use something other than a * since this has special meaning on both the Unix and Mac side. At the very least there is potential for confusion. Perhaps a _ (underscore) would be a better choice? -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 Microsoft - because god hates us From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 09:54:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA22293 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:54:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA22264 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:54:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA06138; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:54:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA06123 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:54:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nic.the.net (nic.the.net [146.6.62.1]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA06111 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:54:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dial-48-73.ots.utexas.edu ("port 2053"@dial-48-62.ots.utexas.edu) by nic.the.net (PMDF V5.1-9 #26857) with SMTP id <01IVXJEPB7SY00079A@nic.the.net> for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:54:22 CDT Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:54:31 -0500 From: "Donald L. Nash" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] DIDs - an idea -or- I didn't read the AFP specs completely yet To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Message-id: <10262623.3101705671@dial-48-73.ots.utexas.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mulberry (MacOS) [1.3.3, s/n U-300790] Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --On Thu, Apr 16, 1998 9:21 AM -0400 "William LeFebvre" wrote: >> what about the action on xntpd and the >> adjustments it makes to keep correct time. > > xntp does its thing by slewing the clock (not explicitly setting it). Xntpd will step-adjust the clock if it is too far off for a slewing adjustment to be feasible. The exact threshold for this is a configurable parameter. It will repeatedly step-adjust the clock if the clock frequency is too far out of spec. to keep it disciplined via slewing adjustments. Many x86 Unix boxes I've worked with have this problem, but it can be fixed by tinkering with the Unix kernel to account for the off-frequency clock. -- Donald L. Nash, , PGP Key ID: 0x689DA021 The University of Texas System Office of Telecommunication Services PGP Key Fingerprint: D6D2 CBEE 8F56 60B2 736C 031A A1E0 AF3D From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 09:57:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA22700 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:57:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA22688 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:57:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA07534; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:57:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA07515 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:57:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from prawn.amxdigital.com (dns0.amxdigital.com [195.238.161.131]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id JAA07434 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:57:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phong.amxdigital.com by prawn.amxdigital.com via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id OAA02712; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:48:09 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980416145741.0068de00@amxdigital.com> X-Sender: jon@amxdigital.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:57:41 +0100 To: From: Jonathan Peterson Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] File locking issues? In-Reply-To: <199804160944.FAA16055@twins.rs.itd.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 10:30 AM 4/16/98 +0100, Johan Meiring wrote: >Hi, > >I had a Linux server setup with Samba 1.9.17alpha4 (also 1.9.16p11) and >netatalk (I think 1.3.1 or something of the sort). > >File locking was working perfectly, from both sides. The PC told you it >could only open the file read-only, and the Mac refused to open it, if the >other has the file open. > >Is file locking enabled on your samba server? Under Samba locking is enabled, but strict locking is not. I'm not aware of there being any locking options on netatalk, I've certainly not set anything. Locking does seem to be very program dependant. Microsoft apps are normally very good at requesting locks and such, in my experience. I could try turning on strict locking for samba and seeing what the difference is. -------- Jon Peterson jon@amxdigital.com +44 (0)171 613 5300 "Behold the duck, it does not cluck, A cluck it lacks. It quacks." From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 10:21:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA24154 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:21:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA24150 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:21:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA24472; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id KAA24433 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:21:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA24304 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:20:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from malkav.imaginet.co.uk (vivek@malkav.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.20]) by malkav.imaginet.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA12051; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:19:36 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:19:35 +0100 (BST) From: Vivek Reply-To: Vivek To: Matthias Ferdinand cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Type Manager / CD Writer / Zip Drives? In-Reply-To: <3535DF66.3D3E9380@sanet.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Matthias Ferdinand wrote: > Is it possible to write to CDs and ZIP drives in Mac Format > from a Unix box? I figure that reading them would not be too > difficult using a HFS driver, but writing? If somebody has any > hints, I really would like to hear from you - thanks! Yes: HFS can write to Mac disks: however, resource forks are probably going to bite you here: I'm not sure there's an easy way to take netatalk .AppleDouble style forks and munge them into an HFS file system. However, you should be able to move files between HFS partitions [or filesystem-images], so burning Mac CDs should be possible... http://www.ps.ucl.ac.uk/~jcpearso/mkhybrid.html Might be helpful there. mkhybrid understands AUFS [as used by CAP] but not the netatalk style forks: I'm not sure how similar the CAP and netatalk methods for storing the forks are: the description on the above page makes me think they're pretty similar, but I'm no expert. [I haven't tried out mkhybrid yet, but it's on my list of things to do] I don't think you can format Mac HD's on the linux box because AFAIK there's no way to make a Mac partition table under Linux. Hope that's all of some use. -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 10:22:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id KAA24333 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:22:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id KAA24302 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:22:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA21289; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:22:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id KAA21285 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:22:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pat.uio.no (pat.uio.no [129.240.130.16]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with SMTP id KAA21276 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 10:22:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gilgamesj.uio.no (actually gilgamesj.uio.no [129.240.222.66]) by pat.uio.no with SMTP (PP); Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:22:02 +0200 Received: from math.uio.no (eris.uio.no [129.240.222.69]) by gilgamesj.uio.no ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:21:59 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199804161421.QAA28754@gilgamesj.uio.no> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0 12/22/97 To: Matthias Ferdinand cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Type Manager / CD Writer / Zip Drives? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:37:26 +0200." <3535DF66.3D3E9380@sanet.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:21:58 +0200 From: Nicolai Langfeldt Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Matthias Ferdinand tastet: > Is it possible to write to CDs and ZIP drives in Mac Format > from a Unix box? I figure that reading them would not be too If you use a Mac cd-mastering program (such as Adaptech Toast) you can make it write cd-image files which you can burn onto a cd from unix. Works for us. Nicolai From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 11:18:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA26641 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:18:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA26635 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:18:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA26238 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:09:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA11090; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id LAA11086 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:09:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA11074 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:09:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA30747 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:09:03 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:09:03 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Type Manager / CD Writer / Zip Drives? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Vivek wrote: > I don't think you can format Mac HD's on the linux box because AFAIK > there's no way to make a Mac partition table under Linux. The PowerPC Linux kernel understands Mac partition tables and the fdisk that comes with PPC linux can handle Mac partition tables. I see no reason why this could not be possible on x86. -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 Microsoft - because god hates us From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 11:52:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA28431 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:52:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA28419 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:52:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA06034; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:52:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA06026 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:52:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wsl.ch (jordan.wsl.ch [193.134.204.113]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA06009 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:52:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from deppeler@localhost) by wsl.ch (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15298; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:51:37 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:51:37 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199804161551.RAA15298@wsl.ch> From: Harald Deppeler MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Changing password with the chooser X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid X-Face: Mh`s--L<(vh_&8O~d'xLD^HL,$4NS-!gaoiH!xxNG:i/|RYz)VWGPu)5%!\y'o5^-tSeA-^ )K,w2(hn5HuQd}&Uw__usT[dU0={8cM.fi{#.H@7ul{)UD16=-5"RK_KMCKC}'s7mvP$Y2w@=WA/1f |%t\Z=Tw>TD,H7_eSBa[2QAwk*.zM^^(t}0"M6OP4HJkEd}NlknMa1Kw<^)_~A Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sorry if this is a FAQ: We are using Helios EtherShare (which provides the possibility of changing the password using the chooser) and are now thinking about using netatalk. However, most Mac users won't be able to change their password using UNIX' passwd. Is it possible to configure/compile netatalk in such a way that Mac users can change their password using the chooser? Best regards, Harry -- mailto:deppeler@wsl.ch Swiss Federal Institute for Forest, Snow and Landscape Research WSL Zuercherstrasse 111 | ph: ++41-1-7392-586 CH-8903 Birmensdorf | fx: ++41-1-7392-215 Switzerland "This message was written using 100% recycled electrons." From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 12:24:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA00611 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:24:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA00602 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:24:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA13020; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:24:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id MAA13004 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from luxbbs.itserve.com ([209.4.104.131] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA12925 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:23:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from davidhspc.atlanta.itserve.com (festus.itserve.com [209.4.104.189]) by luxbbs.itserve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12018 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:27:27 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-alpha-091997 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:24:34 -0400 (EDT) Organization: Imaging Technologies From: David Hamm To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] compiling netatalk for alpha Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Trying to compile netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2 for alpha. The README.ASUN says to change CFLAGS from -02 to -05 but I can't find where to make the change. I've grep'ed for CFLAGS and for 02 but I don't find anything definitive. ------ David Hamm - dhamm@itserve.com -------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 13:05:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA02617 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:05:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA02608 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:05:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA05632; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:05:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA05621 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:05:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from valerie.inf.elte.hu (valerie.inf.elte.hu [157.181.50.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA05595 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (szoli@localhost) by valerie.inf.elte.hu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA17757 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:04:52 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:04:52 +0200 (MET DST) From: SEBESTYEN Zoltan To: Netatalk admins mailinglist Subject: [netatalk-admins] SAMBA & Netatalk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm hungarian therefore I use non-english alphabetic characters in the filenames of files that are shared via both Samba and Netatalk. Since these characters aren't in the ASCII standard, Windows and Mac codes them in different ways. Is there any solution to see the filenames right both on the Macs and the PCs? From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 15:22:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA08343 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:22:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA08339 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:22:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA23674; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:22:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA23662 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk (lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.120.6]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA23643 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:22:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dis.strath.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/2.0A) with ESMTP id UAA16495 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:22:41 +0100 (BST) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] DIDs - an idea -or- I didn't read the AFP specs completely yet In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:08:40 CDT." Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:22:41 +0100 Message-ID: <16493.892754561@dis.strath.ac.uk> From: Duncan Sinclair Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu "Donald L. Nash" writes: >... DIDs are only 32 >bits long. I looked into using inode numbers combined with major and minor >device numbers to create an inode-based DID that worked for volumes which >span filesystems, but had to give up on it because inode numbers are 24 bits >long and major and minor device numbers are each 8 bits long. I couldn't >figure out a way to cram 40 bits into 32 without the possibility of >collision. :-) I would have thought this is still the key to the solution. As a database lookup has to be implemented anyway, you just use a hash function, and hash the 40 bits down to 32. When you get a collision, use a secondary hash function. I guess this sort of thing can be done by berkeley db or gdbm. (I'd prefer berkeley db myself.) Or you can roll your own hash table pretty easily. This gives you everything you need. The database is keyed by the DID or the i-node/device combination and contains the (complete) path. Keeping the database consistant should be an easy task. E.g. when a directory is moved you still know its inode/dev number, so you can reset the path. I would still recommend a separate process for the management of this database, but I'm sure the concurrent access problem could be solved some other way. I guess all the same applies to file numbers. Hope this inspires someone... Duncan Sinclair. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 17:48:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id RAA13468 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:48:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA13464 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:48:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA07429; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA07409 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:48:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nic.the.net (nic.the.net [146.6.62.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA07400 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bubba.ots.utexas.edu ("port 2110"@bubba.ots.utexas.edu) by nic.the.net (PMDF V5.1-9 #26857) with SMTP id <01IVXZYNIP7O0007UC@nic.the.net> for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:48:35 CDT Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:48:32 -0500 From: "Donald L. Nash" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] DIDs - an idea -or- I didn't read the AFP specs completely yet To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Message-id: <4481204.3101734112@bubba.ots.utexas.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mulberry (MacOS) [1.3.3, s/n U-300790] Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --On Thu, Apr 16, 1998 8:22 PM +0100 "Duncan Sinclair" wrote: > "Donald L. Nash" writes: >>... DIDs are only 32 >>bits long. I looked into using inode numbers combined with major and minor >>device numbers to create an inode-based DID that worked for volumes which >>span filesystems > > I would have thought this is still the key to the solution. I suppose it could have been made to work (I was hoping for a quick hack, and that fell through when I realized that inode numbers are 24 bits long instead of 16), but it still has a fundamental problem which I wasn't even trying to address: even this doesn't create truly unique DIDs. You can create a directory, derive its DID from its inode and device numbers, delete the directory, and then create a new one which happens to get the same inode number and therefore the same DID. Granted, it would have been better than what we have now, but it would still have been less than perfect. Synthesizing and tracking DIDs externally via .DID files and the .DIDdb database still sounds like the best approach, hack though it may be. > The database is keyed by the DID or > the i-node/device combination and contains the (complete) path. Regardless of how you generate your DIDs, they are what you'd use as the database key since the whole point of the database is to map DIDs to path names. If you keyed by inode/device (a moot point given the above paragraph), you'd have to find some way to calculate that from the DID, which might be impossible depending on the hash function used to generate the DID in the first place. > I would still recommend a separate process for the management of this > database, but I'm sure the concurrent access problem could be solved > some other way. IMO, it is scandalous that Unix doesn't include a basic database package that does record-level locking (having a good amount of VMS in my background, I long for this sort of thing in Unix). Even Berkeley DB doesn't do this, at least not the version I've seen. Even though having an external process is a performance hit, not to mention being a disgusting hack, I can't think of any other way to do it reliably in the absense of record locking. -- Donald L. Nash, , PGP Key ID: 0x689DA021 The University of Texas System Office of Telecommunication Services PGP Key Fingerprint: D6D2 CBEE 8F56 60B2 736C 031A A1E0 AF3D From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 19:07:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA16043 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:07:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA16039 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:07:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA06945; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:07:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA06935 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:06:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA06915 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:06:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id BAA28377 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:06:53 +0200 Message-ID: <35368E3A.89DD8B17@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:03:22 +0200 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] CR/LF translation References: <3.0.1.32.19980415095402.006d1390@amxdigital.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I wonder, what would happen, if instead changing all CR-s to LF-s in one direction, and changing all LF-s to CR-s in the other, we would exchange CR-s with LF-s in both directions; this way, even with a translated file, You get the correct and unaltered binary contents back if You read it on a Mac. An actual translate-on-disk subroutine for the case the TYPE later gets changed from TEXT to something else might also be considered - this way, even the not so 'clever' MS Word* would work with translation on. What we would lose is having mixed end-of-line files appear nicely as LF-only on the unix side, and get back CR-only to the Mac side. In fact, I thought netatalk was swapping CR-s and LF-s, and I only recently checked the source to see it behaves differently. * - [For the ones who doesn't know this yet.] MS Word types it's files a TEXT first, the writes the contents, and subsequently changes the file type to the real one; using the old netatalk CR/LF translation the file would be irrevokably corrupted; with the new one, netatalk would only have to translate it again to recover the original contents. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu PS: I made up a patch which should change the behaviour to the one I prefer. The changes are obvious, but I did not actually test this. If people would try it out and find it beneficial, Adrian could include it in his next patch set. Here it is: --- etc/afpd/Makefile.orig Fri Apr 17 00:53:13 1998 +++ etc/afpd/Makefile Fri Apr 17 00:54:23 1998 @@ -14,7 +14,7 @@ INCPATH= -I../../include ${AFSINCPATH} ${KRBINCPATH} ${DESINCPATH} \ ${PAMINCPATH} CFLAGS= ${DEFS} ${AFSDEFS} ${KRBDEFS} ${DESDEFS} ${OPTOPTS} ${INCPATH} \ - ${PAMDEFS} -DAPPLCNAME -DCRLF # -DDOWNCASE + ${PAMDEFS} -DAPPLCNAME -DCRLF -DCRLFTWOWAY # -DDOWNCASE LIBS = -latalk ${AFSLIBS} ${KRBLIBS} ${DESLIBS} ${ADDLIBS} ${AFPLIBS} \ ${TCPWRAPLIBS} ${PAMLIBS} LIBDIRS= -L../../libatalk ${AFSLIBDIRS} ${KRBLIBDIRS} \ --- etc/afpd/fork.c.orig Fri Apr 17 00:27:27 1998 +++ etc/afpd/fork.c Fri Apr 17 00:55:17 1998 @@ -471,6 +471,11 @@ if ( *p == '\012' ) { *p = '\015'; } +#ifdef CRLFTWOWAY + else if ( *p == '\015' ) { + *p = '\012'; + } +#endif } } #endif CRLF @@ -743,6 +748,11 @@ if ( *p == '\015' ) { *p = '\012'; } +#ifdef CRLFTWOWAY + else if ( *p == '\012' ) { + *p = '\015'; + } +#endif } } #endif CRLF From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 19:24:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA17029 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:24:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA17024 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:24:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA11304; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:24:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA11301 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:24:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newsgate.dircon.co.uk (uugate1.dircon.co.uk [194.112.50.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA11289 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:24:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nan.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by newsgate.dircon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id AAA03338 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 00:23:42 +0100 (BST) Received: by mailhost.nan.co.uk (sendmail 8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA12319; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:30:43 +0100 X-Sender: sw@mailhost.nan.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <26606329.3101648920@bubba.ots.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 3.1 Organization: Network Analysis Ltd Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:30:38 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Sak Wathanasin Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] DIDs - an idea -or- I didn't read the AFP specs completely yet Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In reply to Gary E. Bickford's message of the 15/04/98 at 19:03 -0500, > At 5:08 PM -0500 4/15/98, Donald L. Nash wrote: > >This won't work and cannot easily be made to work because DIDs are only 32 > >bits long. I looked into using inode numbers combined with major and minor > >device numbers to create an inode-based DID that worked for volumes which > >span filesystems, but had to give up on it because inode numbers are 24 bits > >long and major and minor device numbers are each 8 bits long. I couldn't > >figure out a way to cram 40 bits into 32 without the possibility of > >collision. :-) > > Yeah, I didn't work out the details (mainly 'cause I don't know whereof I > speak :) - but your last point reminds me of gray coding, which does just > that, and the result is always unique, though not sequential. I forget how > it works... > > GEB Isn't there a more basic problem than craming 40 bits into 32? inodes get reallocated, don't they? What happens when you delete a directory and create a new one straight away? Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK Internet: sw@nan.co.uk Phone: (+44) 1203 419996 Fax: (+44) 1203 690690 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 19:47:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA18007 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:47:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA17997 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:47:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA17200; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:47:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA17198 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:47:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA17188 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:47:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id BAA29999 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:47:17 +0200 Message-ID: <353697D0.3E96B96D@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:44:16 +0200 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] DIDs - an idea -or- I didn't read the AFP specs completely yet References: <16493.892754561@dis.strath.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Duncan Sinclair wrote: > > "Donald L. Nash" writes: > >... DIDs are only 32 > >bits long. I looked into using inode numbers combined with major and minor > >device numbers to create an inode-based DID that worked for volumes which > >span filesystems, but had to give up on it because inode numbers are 24 bits > >long and major and minor device numbers are each 8 bits long. I couldn't > >figure out a way to cram 40 bits into 32 without the possibility of > >collision. :-) > > I would have thought this is still the key to the solution. As a > database lookup has to be implemented anyway, you just use a hash > function, and hash the 40 bits down to 32. When you get a collision, > use a secondary hash function. > > I guess this sort of thing can be done by berkeley db or gdbm. (I'd > prefer berkeley db myself.) Or you can roll your own hash table > pretty easily. Not to open a debate, but I don't see what You gain by hashing, and not just bumping a counter. You have to keep the database anyway. > This gives you everything you need. The database is keyed by the DID or > the i-node/device combination and contains the (complete) path. Keeping > the database consistant should be an easy task. E.g. when a directory is > moved you still know its inode/dev number, so you can reset the path. I assume, You discover a moved directory by not finding it at the right place. If you try to locate that directory purely by inode/dev number, You lose if the given inode was reused; not to mention, that - AFAIK - there is no simple way to get a pathname from an inode/dev number (I might be wrong here), so You would have to search the tree for the directory, which is very close to searching for the unambiguous [in contents I mean] .DID file in the directory. The only case I see You could lose here is when some uneducated user removes the .DID file, in which case all Your aliases pointing to this dir would break; but You still would not resolve to a wrong one, as with inode reuse You could based on inode/dev. Or did You think about performance issues? Clear me up, please! Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 20:10:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA19249 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:10:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA19244 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:09:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA23053; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:09:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA23049 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:09:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ocee.groupsys.com (ocee.groupsys.com [155.229.202.35]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA23039 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:09:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ocee.groupsys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ocee.groupsys.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA11841; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:09:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199804170009.UAA11841@ocee.groupsys.com> To: Andras Kadinger cc: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] DIDs - an idea -or- I didn't read the AFP specs completely yet In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:44:16 +0200." <353697D0.3E96B96D@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:09:48 -0400 From: William LeFebvre Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Andras wrote: > I assume, You discover a moved directory by not finding it at the right > place. If you try to locate that directory purely by inode/dev number, > You lose if the given inode was reused; not to mention, that - AFAIK - > there is no simple way to get a pathname from an inode/dev number (I > might be wrong here), so You would have to search the tree for the > directory, which is very close to searching for the unambiguous [in > contents I mean] .DID file in the directory. The only case I see You > could lose here is when some uneducated user removes the .DID file, in > which case all Your aliases pointing to this dir would break; but You > still would not resolve to a wrong one, as with inode reuse You could > based on inode/dev. > > Or did You think about performance issues? Clear me up, please! If the inode number is for a directory, you actually can derive a pathname for it, much in the same way that pwd does. I wrote code to do this aeons ago. However, it requires lots of diddling around on the raw device. Since you can't open a file by inode number you have to look at the file's contents baesd on the block numbers in the inode, Then you can find the inode number for "..". Recurse until you reach the root (special code needed for crossing mount points, too). For performance it's only slightly worse than a pwd, and can't take advantage of any kernel caching. It also requires the ability to open the raw device, which usually means being root. An inode number for a non-directory can't be translated in to a path without scanning the whole disk. This is primarily because it could potentially be present in multiple directories. But since we're talking about DIDs here, then we're already dealing only with directories. William LeFebvre Group sys Consulting +1 770 813 3224 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 20:40:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA20153 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:40:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA20148 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:40:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA19983 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:25:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id UAA12303; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:25:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id UAA12300 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:25:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gummy.cs.indiana.edu (gummy.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.252.102]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA12295 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:24:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (brbothwe@localhost) by gummy.cs.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/IUCS_2.18) with SMTP id TAA00719 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:24:54 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: gummy.cs.indiana.edu: brbothwe owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:24:53 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Eric Bothwell To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Login problems revisted... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I posted a few weeks ago about strange login problems I was having from our G3 (running MacOS 8.1). They seemed to fix themselves a few hours later, but now they are back!: Attempts to login to one of our netatalk (netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18.2) servers (running under RedHat Linux 5.0/2.0.32) from the G3 gives the "incorrect password, please try again" error message, but NOT always! It seems to do this somewhat at random! It does seem to work on about 50-75% of the attempts IF I use the "Server IP Address" option to directly enter the server's IP#. It has yet to work by clicking on the server name directly (in the 30+ attempts I have tried today) I tried setting up netatalk on another Linux box, and logins to it failed most of the time as well. I checked the log files and this is what happens during every unsuccessful login attempt: Apr 16 18:29:47 wtlinux afpd[10031]: ASIP session:548(2) from 156.56.101.120:2068(4) Apr 16 18:29:47 wtlinux afpd[9447]: server_child[1] 10031 done So there is some sort of connection happening. Logins to other Macs on the network seem to work fine, it's just logins to netatalk that choke. The G3 is running Open Transport 1.3 (AT Driver 60.3), but I tried login in to the very same accounts from a few of our other machines running Open Transport 1.3 (and 1.2) machines and have NEVER had any problems. One thing I don't know about AppleTalk is how the router is selected by a given machine. On the G3, the router # shows up as 46672.83, but on other machines on the same network it is different. (BUT most of the machine I checked ARE 46672.83, and logins work from them) Could this be a problem? I am rather clueless about the AppleTalk/LocalTalk protocols. At this point I am beginning to suspect something is really wacked out with our G3, as we have had problems with the Choose crashing constantly until I reinstalled 8.1 from scratch. Since then it seems to be OK, until this netatalk login problem. Does anyone have ANY suggestions as to what might be causing this? Thanks! -Brian From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 20:51:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id UAA20836 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:51:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA20832 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:51:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA02871; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:51:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id UAA02867 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:51:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bastuba.partitur.se (bastuba.partitur.se [193.219.246.194]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id UAA02863 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:51:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from partitur.se (t1o29p60.telia.com [194.236.214.60]) by bastuba.partitur.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03178; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:50:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3536A74F.62B2EE7C@partitur.se> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:50:23 +0200 From: Palle Girgensohn Organization: Partitur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SEBESTYEN Zoltan CC: Netatalk admins mailinglist Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] SAMBA & Netatalk References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu SEBESTYEN Zoltan wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm hungarian therefore I use non-english alphabetic characters in the > filenames of files that are shared via both Samba and Netatalk. Since > these characters aren't in the ASCII standard, Windows and Mac codes them > in different ways. Is there any solution to see the filenames right both > on the Macs and the PCs? Hello Sebestyen, What character set do you use? There are a few different patches for ISO-Latin_8859-1 out there; I'm responsible for one of them. Check the mail archive for beginning of January '98 for my contribution. There might be better ones around, though. :) Basically, Samba can be set up to use iso-latin. Then patch netatalk to do the same. Also, you need a script that runs find and renames all your old files with :xx to the latin correspondance. Hope this helps. If not feel free to mail me, and I'll see if I can find the patch and mail it to you. Regards, Palle From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 21:03:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA21677 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:03:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA21672 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:03:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA20939; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:03:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA20928 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:03:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA20890 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:03:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id DAA00906 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:03:29 +0200 Message-ID: <3536A9AF.EE7714C0@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:00:31 +0200 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Type Manager / CD Writer / Zip Drives? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu [Sorry for the private copy, Alistair] Alistair Riddell wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Vivek wrote: > > > I don't think you can format Mac HD's on the linux box because AFAIK > > there's no way to make a Mac partition table under Linux. > > The PowerPC Linux kernel understands Mac partition tables and the fdisk > that comes with PPC linux can handle Mac partition tables. I see no reason > why this could not be possible on x86. Yes, it is. And Linux development kernels (the 2.1.x series) even have Mac partition table support built-in. I don't know, how to use it yet, though (but I don't use 2.1.x kernels). The fdisk (or I think it was pdisk?) that comes with MkLinux (also a PowerPC compatible Linux) can also create Mac partition tables, and You can use hfsutils to create the filesystem, which You can access later with the HFS module. However, the Macintosh stores some parts of it's disk driver software on the disk; I don't know if there are tools to place a driver into the correspoding partition, or if it is needed at all. Mac-experts, anyone? I am pretty sure You can not live without it if You need a bootable Mac CD. Since the need for burning Mac CD-s directly on unix would be beneficial for me too, I think we should look into extending mkhybrid to understand netatalk's [why do we call it so anyway; it's pretty standard, isn't it?] AppleDouble format. Volunteers? I am familiar with the AppleDouble format. Anyone from the AUFS side? Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 21:21:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA23573 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:21:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA23569 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA24729; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA24727 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:21:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA24715 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:21:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id DAA01811 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:21:48 +0200 Message-ID: <3536ADFA.4A8383C3@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:18:50 +0200 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] SAMBA & Netatalk References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu SEBESTYEN Zoltan wrote: > I'm hungarian therefore I use non-english alphabetic characters in the > filenames of files that are shared via both Samba and Netatalk. Since > these characters aren't in the ASCII standard, Windows and Mac codes them > in different ways. Is there any solution to see the filenames right both > on the Macs and the PCs? Someone was working on a netatalk/samba cooperation project, which also included solutions to this problem. If memory serves well, it also had the correct accented characters in unix (well, in Linux and iso8859-1 or so anyway) - I may be wrong here. What happened to this? Does anybody know about this project? Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 21:28:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA24802 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:28:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA24792 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:28:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA26180; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:28:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA26177 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:28:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA26168 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:28:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id DAA01860; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:28:40 +0200 Message-ID: <3536AF96.5FE337D1@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:25:42 +0200 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tomas Revesz , Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] non-cleartext passwords... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Tomas, I am almost completely blank on kerberos authentication and UAMs. Tomas Revesz wrote: > 1. Do i need to go through all this trouble or is there a simpler way to > scramble passwords between client and server? Adrian's patch set includes a possibility to use afpd with something called '2wayrandnum' exchange. For this to work, You have to store the user's password cleartext in their home directory (~home/.passwd I remember), which might or might not be a security concern to You. This way You can have encrypted passwords over the wire, but unencrypted password on the disk. I think, You would be better off with kerberos if You have serious security expectations. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 21:31:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id VAA25223 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:31:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA25205 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:31:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA26780; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:31:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA26776 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:31:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA26756 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id DAA02311 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:31:42 +0200 Message-ID: <3536B049.61B7AEA3@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:28:41 +0200 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] On printing to an AppleTalk printer References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu SEBESTYEN Zoltan wrote: > I'm still having problems with printing to an Atalk printer via netatalk. > I can print from my netatalk server to the printers from command line and > the Macs know about the netatalk printer I created, but when I start a > print job from a Mac then the file to be printed arrives to the spool > directory and papd says the printer is being off-line and the printing > jobs stops there. Anyone have some suggestions what to do or could send me > a working example config file? Do You use LPRng by any chance? Can You print from the command line using lpr or using pap? Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 22:09:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA28945 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:09:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA28939; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id VAA24667; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:27:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA25845; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:27:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id VAA25843; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:27:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exhibitgroup-bh.e-g.com (exhibitgroup-bh.e-g.com [206.242.90.66]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id VAA25833; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:27:16 -0400 (EDT) From: colive@e-g.com Received: (from uucp@localhost) by exhibitgroup-bh.e-g.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) id UAA27009 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:27:15 -0500 Received: from 170.136.139.67 by exhibitgroup-bh.e-g.com via smap (3.2) id xma027000; Thu, 16 Apr 98 20:26:56 -0500 Received: by smtp.e-g.com with VINES-ISMTP; Thu, 16 Apr 98 20:30:43 CDT Date: Thu, 16 Apr 98 20:30:40 CDT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Reply-To: Subject: [netatalk-admins] Can't get shares to show! X-Incognito-SN: 1130 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu All you Linux-heads out there... Just decided this afternoon to run Appletalk on my Linux box at work. Had it up and running a couple of hours no problem. It's sweet. I do have one problem though. I can't seem to share out any volumes on the Linux box other than those in the /home directory (which is by default). I've checked and triple-checked (notice that he went from the "single check" right for the "triple check" skipping the "double check") the AppleVolumes.default and .system files in the ../atalk/etc area, and even though I have volumes spec. to share out, I don't see them. Guest gets nothing. I checked file permissions on these files to make sure they had at least w+r, but still nothing works. Anyone had any experience running AT on Linux and had this problem? Before I compiled atalk with no shadow passwords, I could get whatever volumes I specified in guest but couldn't log in as a regular user (no shadow password support, remember?). After I recompiled afpd w/shadow password support, I g! et this weird inflexibility... I used the AppleVolumes.default and .system files that were provided in the 1.4.2 beta distribution (in the ../config area) but added only two lines for additional shares to both the *.system and *.default files: /home "People" /usr "Usr Area" Doesn't work! Otherwise, I would highly recommend this product to anyone. It's killer... Chris From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 22:09:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA28983 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:09:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA28962 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA28807 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:07:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA04270; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:07:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA04268 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:07:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.sanet.de (rollux.sanet.de [195.4.60.3]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA04260 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.sanet.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with UUCP id EAA15373 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 04:04:06 +0200 Received: from phineas (phineas.sanet.de [194.173.180.77]) by crayxmp.sanet.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id EAA10760 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 04:07:51 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980417040030.00c411d0@194.173.180.3> X-Sender: mferd@194.173.180.3 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 04:00:30 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Matthias FERDINAND Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Type Manager / CD Writer / Zip Drives? In-Reply-To: <3536A9AF.EE7714C0@freeside.elte.hu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, thanks to the people who were responding - now I have some pointers to check out on the weekend :-) Being able to write Mac CDs would just be an argument for the netatalk solution itself, I personally would not consider it very good practice to have such a timing-critical application run on a possibly very loaded file server. But I will explore that further on the weekend. BTW, is it possible to change file permissions from the client side? I don't even know how to invoke that window on a mac, I just seen it recently (gives owner,group,and world permissions an shows who can even see the volume). Are that supported calls in netatalk or is it necessary to do the settings by editing the file permissions and .AppleVolume files? Regards, Matthias Ferdinand From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 22:27:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA00507 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA00498 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:27:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA09876; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:27:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id WAA09874 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:27:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA09870 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:27:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA24142; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd024139; Fri Apr 17 02:21:42 1998 Message-ID: <3536BB7C.31DFF4F5@whistle.com> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:16:28 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andras Kadinger CC: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] SAMBA & Netatalk References: <3536ADFA.4A8383C3@freeside.elte.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Andras Kadinger wrote: > > SEBESTYEN Zoltan wrote: > > I'm hungarian therefore I use non-english alphabetic characters in the > > filenames of files that are shared via both Samba and Netatalk. Since > > these characters aren't in the ASCII standard, Windows and Mac codes them > > in different ways. Is there any solution to see the filenames right both > > on the Macs and the PCs? > > Someone was working on a netatalk/samba cooperation project, which also > included solutions to this problem. If memory serves well, it also had > the correct accented characters in unix (well, in Linux and iso8859-1 or > so anyway) - I may be wrong here. > > What happened to this? Does anybody know about this project? > > Sincerely, > Andras Kadinger > bandit@freeside.elte.hu It's jeremy Allison, the SAMBA maintainer, who's job at whistle is to keep samba and netatalk in sync for the Interjet product.. (see www.whistle.com) From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Apr 16 22:36:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id WAA01194 for netatalk-admins-list; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:36:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA01188 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:36:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id WAA11656; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:36:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id WAA11654 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:36:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id WAA11649 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:36:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id EAA05078; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 04:32:46 +0200 Message-ID: <3536BE9C.E22442B4@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 04:29:48 +0200 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: colive@e-g.com, Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Can't get shares to show! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Chris, colive@e-g.com wrote: > the AppleVolumes.default and .system files in the ../atalk/etc area, Before everything else, try to use /etc/* instead of any '../atalk/etc/*', and see if that works. I hope it does. Don't listen to the docs if they say something else. Also, I recommend using Adrian Sun's patch set, which is available at: ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu:/public/asun/ Hope this helps, Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 17 02:43:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id CAA16691 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:43:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id CAA16687 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:43:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id CAA28664; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:43:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id CAA28661 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:43:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gatekeep.ti.com (gatekeep.ti.com [192.94.94.61]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id CAA28657 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 02:43:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from king.india.ti.com ([134.183.160.185]) by gatekeep.ti.com (8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA29614 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 01:43:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from kepler.india.ti.com (kepler [134.183.192.12]) by king.india.ti.com (8.8.5/8.6.10) with ESMTP id MAA10801 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:06:13 +0530 (IST) From: Ravi S Received: (from ravi@localhost) by kepler.india.ti.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) id MAA00441; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:14:09 +0530 Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:14:09 +0530 Message-Id: <199804170644.MAA00441@kepler.india.ti.com> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk on SUNOS Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm trying to install netatalk on a SUN machine running SUNOS and I'm facing some problems. This is what I did to install: %uname -a SunOS cvp12 4.1.3_U1 1 sun4m %cd /usr/share/sys/sun4m/conf %cp GENERIC GENERIC.ATALK %echo "options VDDRV" >>GENERIC.ATALK %/etc/config GENERIC.ATALK %cd ../GENERIC.ATALK %make #make the new kernel %mv /vmunix /vmunix.org #save the old kernel %mv ./vmunix / #new kernel %cd /etc %cat >> services #Update the services database rtmp 1/ddp # Routing Table Maintenance Protocol nbp 2/ddp # Name Binding Protocol echo 4/ddp # AppleTalk Echo Protocol zip 6/ddp # Zone Information Protocol  %echo "sh ~ravi/atalk/etc/rc.atalk" >>/etc/rc.local %reboot All of the above steps were executed as a superuser. When the system is rebooted, I get the following messages: Cannot write into "/user/ravi/atalkd/etc/l. I have changed the permissions of /user/ravi/atalkd/etc/ to 777. This error message is printer when trying to execute the statement: if [ -f /user/ravi/atalk/etc/netatalk.o ]; then /usr/etc/modload -sym /user/ravi/atalk/etc/netatalk.o; When if [ -f /user/ravi/atalk/etc/atalkd ]; then /user/ravi/atalk/etc/atalkd; echo -n ' atalkd' is executed, the following error message is printed: config file is (null) socket: Protocol not supported Can I get some help here? Have I missed any steps here? Thanks and Best Regards, Ravi +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Ravi Subramanian | Email: ravi@india.ti.com | | Texas Instruments Incorporated | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 17 03:42:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id DAA18494 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:42:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA18490 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA00255; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id DAA00252 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:42:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.rp-online.de (ns.rp-online.de [149.221.1.194]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id DAA00235 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 03:42:14 -0400 (EDT) From: hf@rp-online.de Received: from helmix.rp-online.de (helmix.rp-online.de [149.221.232.13]) by ns.rp-online.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21464; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:41:53 +0200 (METDST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-031798 [p0] on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 08:46:35 -0000 (???) Organization: RP-Online To: colive@e-g.com Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] Can't get shares to show! Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! The AppleVolumes.default and AppleVolumes.system must be readable for the world (644). Regards Helmut On 17-Apr-98 colive@e-g.com wrote: > All you Linux-heads out there... > > Just decided this afternoon to run Appletalk on my Linux box at work. Had it > up and running a couple of hours no problem. It's sweet. I do have one > problem though. I can't seem to share out any volumes on the Linux box other > than those in the /home directory (which is by default). I've checked and > triple-checked (notice that he went from the "single check" right for the > "triple check" skipping the "double check") the AppleVolumes.default and > .system files in the ../atalk/etc area, and even though I have > volumes spec. to share out, I don't see them. Guest gets nothing. I > checked file permissions on these files to make sure they had at least w+r, > but still nothing works. Anyone had any experience running AT on Linux and > had this problem? Before I compiled atalk with no shadow passwords, I could > get whatever volumes I specified in guest but couldn't log in as a regular > user (no shadow password support, remember?). After I recompiled afpd > w/shadow password support, I g! > et this weird inflexibility... I > used the AppleVolumes.default and .system files that were provided in the > 1.4.2 beta distribution (in the ../config area) but added only two lines for > additional shares to both the *.system and *.default files: > > /home "People" > /usr "Usr Area" > > Doesn't work! > > Otherwise, I would highly recommend this product to anyone. It's killer... > > Chris MfG Helmut Franzke --------------------------------------------------------------------- RP-Online Verlagsgesellschft mbH http://rp-online.de E-Mail: hf@rp-online.de Date: 17-Apr-98 Time: 08:41:40 This message was sent by LINUX-XFMail --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 17 09:53:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id JAA11427 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:53:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id JAA11422 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:53:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA22094; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:53:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id JAA22092 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:53:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov (leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.127.224]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id JAA22088 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:53:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 5065 invoked from network); 17 Apr 1998 13:53:16 -0000 Received: from schinder.clark.net (HELO ?168.143.5.160?) (PaulJ.Schinder@168.143.5.160) by leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov with SMTP; 17 Apr 1998 13:53:16 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199804170644.MAA00441@kepler.india.ti.com> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:50:10 -0400 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: "Paul J. Schinder" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk on SUNOS Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 12:14 PM +0530 4/17/98, Ravi S wrote: } } When the system is rebooted, I get the following messages: } } Cannot write into "/user/ravi/atalkd/etc/l. I have } changed the permissions of /user/ravi/atalkd/etc/ to 777. This error message } is printer when trying to execute the statement: } } if [ -f /user/ravi/atalk/etc/netatalk.o ]; then } /usr/etc/modload -sym /user/ravi/atalk/etc/netatalk.o; Is the disk that /user/ravi is on NFS mounted, by any chance, or is it a disk local to the machine you're running netatalk on? } } When } } if [ -f /user/ravi/atalk/etc/atalkd ]; then } /user/ravi/atalk/etc/atalkd; echo -n ' atalkd' } is executed, the following error message is printed: What does modstat show? } } config file is (null) } socket: Protocol not supported } } Can I get some help here? Have I missed any steps here? } } Thanks and Best Regards, Ravi } } +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ } | Ravi Subramanian | Email: ravi@india.ti.com | } | Texas Instruments Incorporated | } +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ --- Paul J. Schinder NASA Goddard Space Flight Center Code 693, Greenbelt, MD 20771 schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 17 11:15:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id LAA15232 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:15:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA15228 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA26068; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id LAA26057 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:14:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id LAA26031 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:14:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (3082@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00108; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 08:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <35377180.64342E@agora.rdrop.com> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 15:13:05 +0000 From: Tom_as_root X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LINUX-ATALK@NETSPACE.ORG, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] BackingUpNetwork Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In my classroom of mixed ethernet network of Win95,Macs,Linux machines what has been an effective package/method of backing up the all the machines on the network from ONE of the machines? I have one external SCSI 2GB tape drive. Currently I move from Mac to Mac, and with an older version of Retrospect, back up each of the Macs. Then move from Win95 machine and using the default backup software to back those up. And back up the Linux machines with KPbackup. On the LinuxRedHat5.0 server, I am running netatalk and samba primarily to serve out an AppleLocalTalk printer and the server functions as the masqueraded gateway to permit my class Internet access. I'd prefer to have the backup package on the server and backup all the machines from there. Any thoughts or directions to appropriate web pages would be appreciated. Thanks From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 17 12:56:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id MAA18700 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:56:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA18695 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:56:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA05992; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id MAA05986 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cofradia.acer.com.mx (cofradia.acer.com.mx [200.23.80.26]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id MAA05980 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:56:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from max.acer.com.mx (max.acer.com.mx [200.23.80.61]) by cofradia.acer.com.mx (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id FAA14851 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 05:57:03 -0500 Message-Id: <199804171057.FAA14851@cofradia.acer.com.mx> X-Sender: mmendiz@cofradia.acer.com.mx X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:01:51 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Max de Mendizabal Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and redhat 5.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi everybody, As many of you knew, in the new release of RedHat 5.0 were introduced the GNU's libc. This change has been difficult for many applications, one of them is netatalk. I am tried to rebuild the redhat package found in ftp.redhat.com, and I succeed, however I have a slight bug: if a mac user logins and do a mistake with his/hers password, netatalk stops working. And I have to kill all the netatalk processs in order to correct this situation. However this problem does not happen with RedHat 3.0.3 (picasso) and the same version of netatalk. If anybody want to see my "patchwork" for RH 5.0, it can be found in ftp://ftp.acer.com.mx/pub/redhat/localcontrib/netatalk-1.4b2-lorax4.src.rpm or, if you want, in the same directory are the binaries in rpm format. Any ideas on resolving this anoying bug? Yours Max From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 17 13:38:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id NAA20557 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:38:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA20553 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:38:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA21733; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:38:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id NAA21724 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:38:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhost.Hax.SE (spiff.Hax.SE [192.176.10.202]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id NAA21697 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:38:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from spiff (spiff.Hax.SE [192.71.144.3]) by mailhost.Hax.SE (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA19384; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:38:00 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199804171738.TAA19384@mailhost.Hax.SE> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:37:59 +0200 (MET DST) From: Thomas Tornblom Reply-To: Thomas Tornblom Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk on SUNOS To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, ravi@india.ti.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-MD5: cOPGHUCwZ71QiCtPZf/Cbw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4m sparc Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu [text deleted] =04 > %echo "sh ~ravi/atalk/etc/rc.atalk" >>/etc/rc.local > %reboot >=20 > All of the above steps were executed as a superuser. >=20 > When the system is rebooted, I get the following messages: >=20 > Cannot write into "/user/ravi/atalkd/etc/l. I have > changed the permissions of /user/ravi/atalkd/etc/ to 777. This error mess= age > is printer when trying to execute the statement: >=20 /user/ravi/atalkd/etc doesn't happen to be on an NFS mounted filesystem doe= s it? root is the most untrusted user on nfs as there are major security issues b= y=20 allowing root to write over NFS. > if [ -f /user/ravi/atalk/etc/netatalk.o ]; then > /usr/etc/modload -sym /user/ravi/atalk/etc/netatalk.o; >=20 > When=20 >=20 > if [ -f /user/ravi/atalk/etc/atalkd ]; then > /user/ravi/atalk/etc/atalkd; echo -n ' atalkd' > is executed, the following error message is printed: >=20 > config file is (null) > socket: Protocol not supported >=20 > Can I get some help here? Have I missed any steps here? >=20 This is probably for the same reasons as above. Place your config on a locally mounted filesystem. > Thanks and Best Regards, Ravi >=20 > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Ravi Subramanian | Email: ravi@india.ti.com | > | Texas Instruments Incorporated | > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ >=20 Thomas Real life: Thomas T=F6rnblom Email: Thomas.Tornblom@Hax.S= E Snail mail: HB Hax Phone: +46 18 290 290 Banvallsv=E4gen 14 Fax: +46 18 290 291 S - 754 40 Uppsala, Sweden Cellular: +46 708 323118 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 17 14:40:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA23252 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:40:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA23245 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:40:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA22726 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:29:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA13934; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:29:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA13930 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:29:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rhscray.ruhs.uwm.edu (rhscray.ruhs.uwm.edu [129.89.34.10]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA13909 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 14:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (wizzy@localhost) by rhscray.ruhs.uwm.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA22700; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:29:20 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:29:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott Wisniewski To: Brian Eric Bothwell cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] question on mounting apple partitions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Red hat 5.0 has many problems, including errors in the glibc shared libraries, which every program that runs are linked with, I would suggest for any server wich one is dependant on to either use an earlier version of red hat or to use the slackware or the devian distributions. Both slackware and devian are stable and they install prety easy. ************************************************* Scott Wisniewski, Assistant Network Administrator Riverside University High School wizzy@ruhs.uwm.edu ************************************************* On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Brian Eric Bothwell wrote: > On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Vivek wrote: > > > On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Warren H. Chang wrote: > > > > > purposes, I'm trying to find out if there's any way of mounting an > > > macintosh partition onto linux? I looked at the hfs for linux project > > > > afpfs is supposed to do this [It compiled Ok for me, but I haven't > > succeeded in actually getting it to mount an afp share yet - not that > > I've tried very hard or anything] > > > > hmm... I appear to have mislaid the source, so I can't tell you where to > > get it... no, wait, I lie.... it's at: > > > > http://www.odyssey.co.il/~heksterb/Software/afpfs/ > > > > -- > > fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex > > > > > > > > > I couldn't get anything to mount via afpfs on my Redhat 5.0 box. I > emailed the author and he said that this is a known problem, and that he > will be fixing as soon as he gets settled in and gets a new Linux box. (he > has moved to the US recently) > > > -brian > > From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 17 16:15:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA27494 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA27490 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:15:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA11282; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:15:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA11269 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:15:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rintintin.sierra.com (rintintin.sierra.com [207.82.195.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA11240 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:15:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (philip@localhost) by rintintin.sierra.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA00969 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 13:14:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Philip Hallstrom X-Sender: philip@rintintin To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Multiple interfaces and Chooser display questions... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi - I've got everything running, now it's just a matter of tweaking this or that :) This is all happening on Solaris 2.6, 1.4b2... I have two interfaces, hme0 and hme0:1. Is there some way to get netatalk to use hme0:1? Adding the ":1" to atalkd.conf doesn't seem to work. Also, when I go to the Chooser I get the hostname, rather than something descriptive. I changed the startup so it looks like: /sierra/atalk/bin/nbprgstr -p 4 SOS_Test:Workstation /sierra/atalk/bin/nbprgstr -p 4 SOS_Test:netatalk /sierra/atalk/etc/papd; /sierra/atalk/etc/afpd -n SOS_Test; And now it shows up as SOS_Test in the chooser, but nbplkup still lists "fido" for the LaserWriter and I don't see an option to affect that. Is there some easy way to do this? Thanks! -- Philip Hallstrom Technical Director philip.hallstrom@sierra.com Sierra Online Services http://www.sierra.com/ Sierra Online, Inc. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 17 18:02:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA01802 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:02:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA01797; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id RAA01669; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:57:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA01090; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:57:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id RAA01085; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:57:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exhibitgroup-bh.e-g.com (exhibitgroup-bh.e-g.com [206.242.90.66]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with SMTP id RAA01074; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 17:57:26 -0400 (EDT) From: colive@e-g.com Received: (from uucp@localhost) by exhibitgroup-bh.e-g.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) id QAA17398 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:57:23 -0500 Received: from 170.136.139.67 by exhibitgroup-bh.e-g.com via smap (3.2) id xma017394; Fri, 17 Apr 98 16:57:17 -0500 Received: by smtp.e-g.com with VINES-ISMTP; Fri, 17 Apr 98 17:01:06 CDT Date: Fri, 17 Apr 98 18:01:03 EDT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Cc: Reply-To: Subject: re: Re: [netatalk-admins] Can't get shares to show! X-Incognito-SN: 1130 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu bandit@freeside.elte.hu wrote: >Before everything else, try to use /etc/* instead of any >'../atalk/etc/*', and see if that works. I hope it does. Don't listen to >the docs if they say something else. Well, I tried that, and that didn't work either. Note the following: pit-svr0:/etc# ls -l AppleVolumes.* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 177 Apr 17 16:24 AppleVolumes.default -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 925 Apr 17 16:24 AppleVolumes.system pit-svr0:/etc# head -n25 AppleVolumes.default # This file looks empty when viewed with "vi". In fact, there is one # '~', so users with no AppleVolumes file in their home directory get # their home directory by default. ~~ pit-svr0:/etc# head -n25 AppleVolumes.system # # This file is read before (after if -u is specified) the user's # AppleVolume file. Add extension mappings and volumes here. # /home "eg People" /dosc "Gate's Land" # default translation -- note that CR <-> LF translation is done on all # files of type TEXT. The first line turns off translation for files of # unknown type, the second turns this translation on. . BINA UNIX # . TEXT UNIX # sounds .mod STrk STrk .mid Midi ttxt .aiff AIFF SNdm .wav WAVE SNdm .au ULAW SNdm # video .moov MooV mMPG .mov MooV mMPG .mpg MPEG mMPG pit-svr0:/etc# cd /usr/local/atalk/etc pit-svr0:/usr/local/atalk/etc# ls -l AppleVolumes.* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 177 Apr 14 16:39 AppleVolumes.default -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 925 Apr 14 16:41 AppleVolumes.system Can anyone make heads or tails of this? Again, I am running the Netatalk 1.4.2 beta release. Previous to recompilation for shadow password support, I got the volumes spec. when logging in as Guest on the Mac. >Also, I recommend using Adrian Sun's patch set, which is available at: What does this do? I'm running this on an Intel 486/66 box. Does that make a difference? Chris ---- Chris Olive Exhibitgroup/Giltspur Pittsburgh colive@e-g.com From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 17 18:11:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA02277 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:11:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA02270 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:11:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA16029; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA16027 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:11:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from valinor.med.utah.edu (valinor.med.utah.edu [155.100.162.5]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA16020 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:11:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (derick@localhost) by valinor.med.utah.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA15529 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:11:40 -0600 Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:11:40 -0600 (MDT) From: Derick Siddoway To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] changing passwords Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello. I'm happily running an IP-only Appleshare server from a P200 Linux box. I'd like to be able to allow my users to change their passwords from the Chooser instead of having to make them use telnet. Is there a way to do this? Thanks. Derick Siddoway "One thing is for certain, there is no Network Archangel stopping them; the ants will soon be here. Obstetrics & Gynecology And I, for one, welcome our new insect University of Utah overlords." -- Kent Brockman From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 17 18:15:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA02836 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA02822 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:15:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA23095; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:15:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA23088 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:15:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA23081 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:15:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id PAA01393; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 15:11:52 -0700 (PDT) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <00001610.sm@h-e.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Can't get shares to show! Date: Fri, 17 Apr 98 14:54:34 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: colive@e-g.com Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 2176 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 15:11 PDT Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > ...but added only two lines for additional shares to both the *.system and > *.default files: > > /home "People" > /usr "Usr Area" You need to lose the "" and the spaces in the volume names; the code that parses these files is pretty dumb. Also there is no reason to put these entries in both AppleVolumes.system and .default, one or the other is enough. The rules are, entries in .system are always visible to everyone, but the .default file will be used only if the user doesn't have an AppleVolumes or .AppleVolumes file in their home directory. Hope this helps! Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 17 18:52:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA04610 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:52:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA04604 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:52:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA01578; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:52:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id SAA01575 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:52:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp3.netcom.com [163.179.3.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA01571 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:52:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by netcomsv.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v2.01)) id PAA03030; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 15:52:16 -0700 (PDT) >X-SnapMAIL: 2.0.3 Message-ID: <00001611.sm@h-e.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] question on mounting apple partitions Date: Fri, 17 Apr 98 15:23:15 PST From: bsmith@h-e.com To: wizzy@rhscray.ruhs.uwm.edu (Scott Wisniewski) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, bsmith@h-e.com Organization: Hammett & Edison, Inc.-Serving the broadcast industry since 1952 X-HoloGate: 1.1.9 Lines: 2200 Received: from h-e by netcomsv.netcom.com; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 15:52 PDT Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Original message sent on Fri, Apr 17 5:29 AM by wizzy@rhscray.ruhs.uwm.edu (Scott Wisniewski) : > Red hat 5.0 has many problems, including errors in the glibc shared > libraries, which every program that runs are linked with, I would suggest > for any server wich one is dependant on to either use an earlier version > of red hat or to use the slackware or the devian distributions. Both > slackware and devian are stable and they install prety easy. Specifically what problems? I'm thrilled with my RH5 server, which has been up for about 2 months. We are totally dependent on the server, it does AppleShare (netatalk) and NFS file services, and fairly intensive engineering application services. The apps were ported from an old system (ULTRIX) with almost no changes, and everything seems to run perfectly. I had to work on netatalk a bit, but all those issues were in the netatalk code and not related to Linux or glibc. Also the server hasn't crashed. Ever. So far I'd give RH5 a 10 out of 10; is there somthing "lurking" that I'm going to find out about in an unpleasant way? Bob Smith Hammett & Edison, Inc. bsmith@h-e.com From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Apr 17 19:43:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id TAA06033 for netatalk-admins-list; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:43:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA06029 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:43:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA08143; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:43:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id TAA08136 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:43:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id TAA08120 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:43:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id BAA31113 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 01:43:43 +0200 Message-ID: <3537E888.33C82D81@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 01:40:56 +0200 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Can't get shares to show! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu colive@e-g.com wrote: > > bandit@freeside.elte.hu wrote: > > >Also, I recommend using Adrian Sun's patch set, which is available at: > > What does this do? I'm running this on an Intel 486/66 box. Does that make a difference? It has a couple of bug fixes and feature enhancements (e.g. AppleShare over TCP/IP) from 1.4b2. It works on Intel. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Apr 18 08:34:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id IAA03500 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 08:34:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA03492 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 08:34:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA01275; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 08:34:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id IAA01271 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 08:34:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rumms.uni-mannheim.de (rumms.uni-mannheim.de [134.155.50.52]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id IAA01267 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 08:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from presse2a.rektorat.uni-mannheim.de (presse2a.rektorat.uni-mannheim.de [134.155.60.18]) by rumms.uni-mannheim.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA25333 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:34:38 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:36:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Grass X-Sender: grass@presse2a.rektorat.uni-mannheim.de Reply-To: grass@rumms.uni-mannheim.de To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] slow connection Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folks, i have a problem. I'm running a little network, with a windows95 machine, a PowerMAC 9500 and a linux machine (P200, 32MB) as server... This network runs since several months, and there appeared some serious problems i don`t know how to solve them... First, the problem with the non-ascii characters, as mentioned two or three days before in another mail. So i hope, i will get some solutions from there.. Second, when opening a winword-file from the MAC on the linux-machine, it takes nearly one minute to open this file... Doing the same with Windows95 is much faster.=20 I know that the harddisk in the linux-machine is a slow one, but before buying a fast SCSI-Drive i want to know if this is a common problem, that the MAC is slower than the PC. Is there a possibility to influence the speed of the connection from the MAC??? Thanks in advance Oliver +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Oliver Gra=DF=09=09=09=09 =09 | | Freiheitsplatz 10 E-mail: grass@rumms.uni-mannheim.de | | 68199 Mannheim WWW: http://webrum.uni-mannheim.de/math/grass |=20 From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Apr 18 14:28:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA10365 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:28:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.32.20]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA10361 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:28:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.on.rogers.wave.ca ([24.112.32.4]) by smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca with ESMTP id <512829-8284>; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:27:52 -0400 Received: from [24.112.39.187] ([24.112.39.187]) by mail.on.rogers.wave.ca with ESMTP id <324681-2913> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:27:52 -0400 X-Sender: alex@postoffice.yorku.ca Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:24:58 -0400 To: grass@rumms.uni-mannheim.de From: Alexander Katsnelson Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] slow connection Cc: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >I know that the harddisk in the linux-machine is a slow one, but before >buying a fast SCSI-Drive i want to know if this is a common problem, that >the MAC is slower than the PC. >Is there a possibility to influence the speed of the connection from the >MAC??? Yes, Macs are considerably slower then PC when it comes to networking stuff, but there is a way you can improve the speed. You need to move to applshare ip. The client is free and is availble from apple. If you run system 8, it already supports appleshare ip. As for netatalk, you need to run the version with the asun patch. This patch adds support for AFP 2.2 (supports appleshare ip). TCP/IP is the way to go. You can get the netatalk with asun patch version from the following: ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/public/asun/ . ------------------------------- Alexander Katsnelson (Sash) alex@yorku.ca (416) 736-2100 ext. 77830 (416) 736-5405 ext. 4 ------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Apr 18 14:43:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA11239 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:43:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA11233 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA11692; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:43:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA11688 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:43:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA11683 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:43:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-217-113.nhwd02.pacbell.net [206.170.217.113]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA13007; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 11:42:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199804181842.LAA13007@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and redhat 5.0 Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 11:41:28 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink To: "Max de Mendizabal" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Any ideas on resolving this anoying bug? I'd say installing the netatalk+asun_a18...e etc rpm found in the hurricane/controb directory on redhat. I've got that running, and it works just peachy fine. Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Apr 18 14:55:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA12123 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:55:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA12117 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:55:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA11913 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:51:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA12762; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:51:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id OAA12759 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:51:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gummy.cs.indiana.edu (gummy.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.252.102]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA12755 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 14:51:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (brbothwe@localhost) by gummy.cs.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/IUCS_2.18) with SMTP id NAA22532 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 13:51:25 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: gummy.cs.indiana.edu: brbothwe owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 13:51:24 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Eric Bothwell To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: Login problems revisted (QUICK HACK FIX) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Well, after trying about everything I could think of to fix the random login problems we were having from our G3, I figured out a quick fix: I kept trying until it successfully logged me in, and then made desktop aliases to each share. Clicking on the alias brings up a login prompt that seems to work 100% of the time. Weird... -brian From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Apr 18 15:36:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id PAA13464 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 15:36:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA13456 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 15:36:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA01491; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 15:36:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id PAA01485 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 15:36:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nucleus.fizbin.com ([207.213.148.64]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id PAA01480 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 15:36:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.100.120] (ppp-206-170-217-107.nhwd02.pacbell.net [206.170.217.107]) by nucleus.fizbin.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA13791; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 12:35:16 -0700 Message-Id: <199804181935.MAA13791@nucleus.fizbin.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] question on mounting apple partitions Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 12:34:08 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Harry Zink To: , "Scott Wisniewski" cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >is there somthing "lurking" that I'm going to find out about in an >unpleasant way? I'd be curious too if there are any hidden problems, but I think his problem is due to the fact that he runs 'raw' netatalk, and we are running asun's patches - which take care of many of the prior problems. Harry From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Apr 18 16:29:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id QAA15598 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 16:29:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA15594 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 16:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA26789; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 16:29:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with X.500 id QAA26783 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 16:29:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id QAA26777 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 16:29:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id WAA19929; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 22:28:42 +0200 Message-ID: <35390C49.42AF2505@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 22:25:45 +0200 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Eric Bothwell , Netatalk list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: Login problems revisted (QUICK HACK FIX) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Brian Eric Bothwell wrote: > Well, after trying about everything I could think of to fix the random > login problems we were having from our G3, I figured out a quick fix: I > kept trying until it successfully logged me in, and then made > desktop aliases to each share. Clicking on the alias brings up a login > prompt that seems to work 100% of the time. Weird... Let me guess: in this case, removing the AppleTalk and AppleShare preferences (well, don't actually remove them, for I might be wrong) should make login work well again. Now I remember I had this too, with a Pulsar (?) clone client against Helios' EtherShare on an Apple Network Server, so I don't think it is netatalk specific, but a bug in Apple's networking code. And 8.1 didn't seem to fix it for me. Is anybody else seeing this? Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu PS: You might want to try to reproduce the problem, trying to trace it with afpd's -d option; this might give us a clue. From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Apr 18 18:35:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id SAA18698 for netatalk-admins-list; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 18:35:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA18685 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 18:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA25922; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 18:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id SAA25919 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 18:35:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newsgate.dircon.co.uk (uugate1.dircon.co.uk [194.112.50.20]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id SAA25915 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 18:35:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nan.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by newsgate.dircon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id XAA24578 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 23:34:20 +0100 (BST) Received: by mailhost.nan.co.uk (sendmail 8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA02721; Sat, 18 Apr 1998 21:39:08 +0100 X-Sender: sw@mailhost.nan.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 3.1 Organization: Network Analysis Ltd Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 21:38:05 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Sak Wathanasin Subject: Re:[netatalk-admins] slow connection Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In reply to Oliver Grass's message of the 18/04/98 at 14:36 +0200, > I know that the harddisk in the linux-machine is a slow one, but before > buying a fast SCSI-Drive i want to know if this is a common problem, that > the MAC is slower than the PC. Well, I don't know how fast your PC is, but I have a 9500/200 talking to a netatalk 1.4b2+asun 18 server on a P200, 64 MB, Linux RH 5.0. I get about 1 Mbyte/sec doing Finder copies. Having a SCSI disk certainly makes a difference; before I had the SCSI disk, I was only gettng about 700 kbytes/sec. As for Word, I opened a 1.2 MB Word doc on the local disk and it took about 27 secs vs 30 if the doc was on the netatalk server. This is with Word 98 - sorry I've already deleted Word 6 (and good riddance). > Second, when opening a winword-file from the MAC on the linux-machine, it > takes nearly one minute to open this file... Did you try opening the same doc from a local HD on the Mac? If you have graphics or Win fonts in your doc, it can take significantly more time to open the doc the very first time even if the doc was on your local disk. Eg that same 1.2 M doc took about 45+ secs to open the first time; thereafter, it was much faster. Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK Internet: sw@nan.co.uk Phone: (+44) 1203 419996 Fax: (+44) 1203 690690 From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Apr 19 14:03:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) id OAA21499 for netatalk-admins-list; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 14:03:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA21494 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 14:03:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA17040; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 14:03:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with X.500 id OAA17038 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 14:03:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca (smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca [24.112.32.20]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.5) with ESMTP id OAA17029 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 14:03:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.on.rogers.wave.ca ([24.112.32.4]) by smtp.on.rogers.wave.ca with ESMTP id <513424-12993>; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 14:02:18 -0400 Received: from [24.112.39.187] ([24.112.39.187]) by mail.on.rogers.wave.ca with ESMTP id <324689-6377> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Sun, 19 Apr 1998 14:02:36 -0400 X-Sender: alex@postoffice.yorku.ca Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 13:59:40 -0400 To: grass@rumms.uni-mannheim.de From: Alexander Katsnelson Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] slow connection Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > >Compiler complains about des.h, which is included from auth.c in the >directory etc/afpd.. >I don't have the time to go over the sources, so if you can give me a >hint, were the problem is, i would be glad.. > Oliver,