From netatalk-admins-request Sat Jan 4 00:31:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with X.500 id AAA24663; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:31:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with X.500 id AAA24657; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:31:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with SMTP id AAA24649; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:31:20 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <199701040531.AAA24649@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with ESMTP id XAA16701; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 23:25:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA17079; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 23:25:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from diablo.ppp.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id XAA17069; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 23:25:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by diablo.ppp.de (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0vgNf3-000QYXC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 05:24 MET Received: from monster.pong.ppp.de (monster.pong.ppp.de [193.141.161.123]) by pong.ppp.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id EAA22951; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 04:33:21 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199701040333.EAA22951@pong.ppp.de> Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 04:50:09 +0100 From: Stefan.Bethke@Hanse.DE (Stefan Bethke) To: julian@whistle.com, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Apologies, netatalk on FreeBSD 2.1.5, 2.2 Newsgroups: hanse-ml.freebsd.hackers Organization: could be better Resent-To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Resent-From: wesley.craig@umich.edu Resent-Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 00:31:19 -0500 Resent-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu A while ago I accused Julian Elisher of having done a bad job on implementing/porting the netatalk kernel code for AppleTalk. I couldn't have be wrong any more; I simply was to stupid. So, for anyone wanting to run netatalk 1.4b2 or later on 2.1.5-RELEASE or later, I have put together some patches to the kernel and netatalk on ftp://ftp.promo.de/pub/people/stefan/netatalk-fbsd-2.1.5.tar.gz, including some instructions. The tarball includes the /usr/src/sys/netatalk/ tree from 2.2-ALPHA; you should be able to replace it with a more recent version. Stefan -- Stefan.Bethke@Hanse.DE http://www.promo.de/people/stefan/ From netatalk-admins-request Sun Jan 12 17:57:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with X.500 id RAA25757; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:57:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with X.500 id RAA25754; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:57:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with SMTP id RAA25748; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:56:58 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <199701122256.RAA25748@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA25070; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 16:10:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA07528; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 16:10:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from oaty.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA07519; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 16:10:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.200] (wilbur.oaty.com [192.168.0.200]) by oaty.com (8.8.4/8) with SMTP id JAA01462 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 09:12:54 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: john@donkey.oaty.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 09:13:34 -0800 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: john@oaty.com (John Grant) Subject: Netatalk printing on Solaris 2.5.1 Resent-To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Resent-From: wesley.craig@umich.edu Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:56:58 -0500 Resent-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I gave up with lpsched and loaded plp (lprng wouldn't compile). Well it sort of works, but not usably. If you print from a Mac via a papd spool the first job prints fine, then this is what you see. In /var/adm/messages: papd[1388]:lp_conn_unix connect /dev/printer: No such file or directory papd[1388]: lp_print: lp_conn_unix: Resource temporarily unavailable for each print job that you add and also the queue builds: Printer lp on machine.oaty.com Warning: queue is not active (no server present). using lpc to down and up the queue seems to start printing again and all the waiting jobs print, not just the first... then the next job starts the cycle all over again... Anybody have any smart ideas ? What is /dev/printer supposed to be doing ? Why does papd try to open it ? --- John From netatalk-admins-request Mon Jan 13 13:40:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with X.500 id NAA02215; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:40:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with X.500 id NAA02213; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with SMTP id NAA02205; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:40:04 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <199701131840.NAA02205@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA28683; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 11:04:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA09643; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 11:04:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from knot.iegroup.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA09559; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 11:04:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from knot.iegroup.com (root@localhost) by knot.iegroup.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA28316; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 04:01:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from bofh.iegroup.com (bofh.iegroup.com [10.0.1.171]) by knot.iegroup.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA28312; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 04:01:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from bofh.iegroup.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bofh.iegroup.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA15096; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:03:41 -0600 Sender: jfulmer@iegroup.com Message-ID: <32DA5CDD.65E10F43@iegroup.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:03:41 -0600 From: John Fulmer Organization: Secure Network Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Grant CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Netatalk printing on Solaris 2.5.1 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Resent-From: wesley.craig@umich.edu Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:40:03 -0500 Resent-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu John Grant wrote: > > I gave up with lpsched and loaded plp (lprng wouldn't compile). Well it > sort of works, but not usably. > I use the stock port of Berkley lpr/lpd. It's running on a Sparc 5, Solaris 2.4. After the inital trauma of completely replacing the SysV printing :), it has been running find for three months now, supporting one Mac via netatalk for printing. The URL for the Solaris port of LPR/LPD is: ftp://ftp.nus.sg/pub/NUS/ISCS/misc/lpr-sol2-p5.03.tar.gz jf -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + John Fulmer | "UNIX was not designed to stop + + Secure Network System | you from doing stupid things, + + Lawrence, Kansas | because that would also stop you + + | from doing clever things." + + jfulmer@iegroup.com | + + http://www.iegroup.com | -- Larry Wall + + + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From netatalk-admins-request Wed Jan 15 09:57:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with X.500 id JAA23026; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:57:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with X.500 id JAA23023; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:57:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with SMTP id JAA23010; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:57:10 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <199701151457.JAA23010@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA22646; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:42:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA11718; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:42:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from luxbbs.itserve.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA11672; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:42:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from davidhspc.atlanta.itserve.com ([155.229.86.45]) by luxbbs.itserve.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA16622 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:44:11 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Sender: dhamm@davidhspc.atlanta.itserve.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:16:20 -0500 (EST) Organization: Imaging Technologies From: David Hamm To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: 1.4.b2 Resent-To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Resent-From: wesley.craig@umich.edu Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:57:09 -0500 Resent-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm currently running 1.3 on a 2.0.18 Linux box and it seems to work well but my users are having the voulume size problem. Is 1.4.b2 solid enough for me to move to? I'm also having the desktop problem. It seems that in the root folder of the exported voume which is "ls -al" below the users desktops are locked in the same view. Any suggestions? dr-xr-xr-x 19 root producti 1024 Jan 2 16:54 production The pertinant files in the production directory are listed below. All of my users belong to production as the primary group. drwxrwxrwx 56 dhamm producti 1024 Dec 20 11:12 .AppleDesktop drwxrwxrwx 2 dhamm producti 1024 Jan 4 23:49 .AppleDouble Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks David ---------------------------------- E-Mail: David Hamm Date: 15-Jan-97 Time: 09:16:20 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- From netatalk-admins-request Fri Jan 17 14:44:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA10946; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:44:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from skynet.usb.ve by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA28734; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:40:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from Pantaleon.cesma.usb.ve (pantaleon.cesma.usb.ve [159.90.15.19]) by skynet.usb.ve (8.8.4/8.8.2/SKYNET.USB.VE-1.9/28Oct96-KGV) with SMTP id PAA08599 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:34:49 -0400 (GMT-0400) Received: from Pantaleon by Pantaleon.cesma.usb.ve (4.1/JAM-version-13-07-95) id AA08311; Fri, 17 Jan 97 15:31:38-040 Sender: jairo@cesma.usb.ve Message-Id: <32DFD399.167EB0E7@cesma.usb.ve> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:31:37 -0400 From: "Jairo A. Medina" Organization: Centro de Estadistica y Software Matematico X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins-dist@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Cc: jairo@usb.ve, daniela@usb.ve Subject: DeskJet 870C and netatalk1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hola: We have Netatalk 1.2 running on SunOS 4.1.4, everything goes fine. I'm trying to add a HP DeskJet 870C printer to the server and would like to use it from my Macs. I added it as a LaserWriter, but, everything is printed in grayscale. I tryed to add it as: choosername:HP DeskJet 870Cxi Unix Spooler:DeskJet 870C but, I can not see it. What should I do? thanks in advance, -- Jairo A. Medina http://www.cesma.usb.ve/~jairo UNIVERSIDAD SIMON BOLIVAR e-mail: jairo@cesma.usb.ve Jairo@usb.ve Mat. Puras y Aplicadas CESMA. voz : 58-2-9063233 9063234 58-14-307299 Apartado postal 89000 fax : 58-2-9063232 Caracas 1080A-Venezuela From the Tropic. From netatalk-admins-request Sat Jan 18 16:16:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with X.500 id QAA18868; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:16:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with X.500 id QAA18866; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:16:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with SMTP id QAA18852; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:16:52 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <199701182116.QAA18852@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA18798; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:10:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA26059; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:10:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from oaty.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA26041; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:10:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.200] (wilbur.oaty.com [192.168.0.200]) by oaty.com (8.8.4/8) with SMTP id NAA01314 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:07:32 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: john@donkey.oaty.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:09:12 -0800 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: john@oaty.com (John Grant) Subject: Suggestions for tuning Solaris for netatalk ? Resent-To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Resent-From: wesley.craig@umich.edu Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:16:51 -0500 Resent-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Well the performance has not been exactly startling: 193Ks-1 Mac -> Sun 253Ks-1 Sun -> Mac So I turned on the gcc optimisation... 204Ks-1 Mac -> Sun 271Ks-1 Sun -> Mac Better, but no prizes, so then I changed the processor ! Benchmarking the new cpu with gcc, etc, etc gave me the result that in general the machine was 40% faster. Imagine my surprise when I retested netatalk: 147Ks-1 Mac -> Sun 210Ks-1 Sun -> Mac So, is there some kernel tuning parameter that will fix this? Faster cpus shouldn't worsen performance, or should I dig up a Sparc 1 or something :-) --- Outline test bench: Mac 7100/80 - 10BaseT File - 1 - 8MB Sun idle = 99%, no other obvious contentions From netatalk-admins-request Sat Jan 18 17:07:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: from metric.inch.com by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA19305; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 17:07:41 -0500 (EST) From: jlh@inch.com Received: from 206.138.210.41 (port241.dialup.inch.com [206.138.210.41]) by metric.inch.com (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA06483 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 17:09:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32E149F8.2363@inch.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 17:09:01 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins-dist@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe From netatalk-admins-request Sat Jan 18 19:58:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: from utsun.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA21282; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:58:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from flare1.solar.isas.ac.jp by utsun.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.7.3/TISN-1.3MD/1.4) id JAA05546; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 09:58:08 +0900 (JST) Received: from flare20.solar.isas.ac.jp by flare1.solar.isas.ac.jp (5.65+1.6W/ISAS-SOLAR1.0/A) id AA16919; Sun, 19 Jan 97 09:49:02 JST Received: by flare20.solar.isas.ac.jp (4.1/TISN-1.2L/R1) id AA02802; Sun, 19 Jan 97 09:55:49 JST Date: Sun, 19 Jan 97 09:55:49 JST From: "Kyo L. Akita (OGU)" Message-Id: <9701190055.AA02802@flare20.solar.isas.ac.jp> To: netatalk-admins-dist@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: unsubscribe From netatalk-admins-request Sat Jan 18 20:20:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: from cosmos.ucsb.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA21522; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:20:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (hoang@localhost) by cosmos.ucsb.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA02024; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 17:20:27 -0800 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 17:20:27 -0800 (PST) From: Hoang Nguyen To: "Jairo A. Medina" cc: netatalk-admins-dist@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu, jairo@usb.ve, daniela@usb.ve Subject: Re: DeskJet 870C and netatalk1.2 In-Reply-To: <32DFD399.167EB0E7@cesma.usb.ve> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII did you try to use Magic-filter ? HOang Nguyen On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Jairo A. Medina wrote: > Hola: > > We have Netatalk 1.2 running on SunOS 4.1.4, everything goes fine. > > I'm trying to add a HP DeskJet 870C printer to the server and would > like to use it from my Macs. > > I added it as a LaserWriter, but, everything is printed in grayscale. > I tryed to add it as: > > choosername:HP DeskJet 870Cxi Unix Spooler:DeskJet 870C > > but, I can not see it. > > What should I do? > > thanks in advance, > -- > Jairo A. Medina http://www.cesma.usb.ve/~jairo > UNIVERSIDAD SIMON BOLIVAR e-mail: jairo@cesma.usb.ve Jairo@usb.ve > Mat. Puras y Aplicadas CESMA. voz : 58-2-9063233 9063234 > 58-14-307299 > Apartado postal 89000 fax : 58-2-9063232 > Caracas 1080A-Venezuela > > From the Tropic. > From netatalk-admins-request Sun Jan 19 06:44:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: from bow.rain.fr by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA16761; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 06:44:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from clarck.mafjet.fr (clarck.mafjet.fr [194.206.193.6]) by bow.rain.fr (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA14074 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 12:49:42 GMT Received: from marina.mafjet.fr (unverified [194.206.193.11]) by bart.mafjet.fr (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 11:43:22 +0100 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970119114439.00688608@bart.mafjet.fr> X-Sender: pillon@bart.mafjet.fr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 12:44:39 +0100 To: netatalk-admins-dist@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu From: Olivier Pillon Subject: unsubscribe -------------------------------------------------------------- Olivier PILLON pillon@mafjet.fr MAFJET 9ter, rue Carnot. 94270 Le Kremlin Bicetre. 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X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.1.10 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins-dist@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: unsubsribe From netatalk.administrators-errors@umich.edu Tue Jan 28 20:27:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with X.500 id UAA08431; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 20:27:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with X.500 id UAA08427; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 20:27:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with SMTP id UAA08422; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 20:27:53 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <199701290127.UAA08422@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA08214; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 20:19:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA20523; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 20:19:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA20513; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 20:19:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from loon.cs.duke.edu (loon.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.85]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA15832 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 20:19:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 20:19:11 -0500 (EST) From: Yuji Shinozaki To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Netatalk and LPRng In-Reply-To: <199612271549.KAA22245@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Resent-From: wesley.craig@umich.edu Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 20:27:52 -0500 Resent-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Does anyone have experience with using netatalk and LPRng-3.1.1? yuji ---- Yuji Shinozaki Computer Systems Programmer (919)660-6573 Dept of Computer Science yuji@cs.duke.edu D125 Levine Sci Res Center http://www.cs.duke.edu/~yuji Durham, NC 27708 From netatalk.administrators-errors@umich.edu Wed Jan 29 10:29:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with X.500 id KAA09173; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:29:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with X.500 id KAA09170; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:29:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with SMTP id KAA09164; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:29:08 -0500 (EST) Resent-Message-Id: <199701291529.KAA09164@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.3/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA08701; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:13:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA13060; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:13:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from adept.qualcomm.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA13018; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:13:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from [129.46.159.136] (rparry-mac.qualcomm.com [129.46.159.136]) by adept.qualcomm.com (8.8.4/1.4f/8.7.2/1.12) with ESMTP id HAA15666 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 07:12:36 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: rparry@nala.qualcomm.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <199612271549.KAA22245@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 07:12:33 -0800 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Richard Parry Subject: Anyone got Netatalk working on Sparc Linux Resent-To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Resent-From: wesley.craig@umich.edu Resent-Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:29:07 -0500 Resent-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sorry, this is a repeat, got no response first time so I thought I would try again. Has anyone got Netatalk to work on Sparc Linux? Thanks, --------------- Richard Parry, P.E., W9IF - Ext 8-4972, Office R-307B Qualcomm, Inc. Globalstar/Gateway Reverse Link Intranet --> Internet --> AX.25 --> W9IF@K6JCC.#SOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM --------------- From netatalk.administrators-errors@umich.edu Fri Mar 14 14:27:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id OAA10968; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:27:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id OAA10966; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:27:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with SMTP id OAA10958; Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:27:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199703141927.OAA10958@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: schedule for 1.4 (non-beta) From: wesley.craig@umich.edu Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:27:26 -0500 Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I just added 150 new users to netatalk-admins, dating back from December. What a pain in the ass. I'm planning to automate the list, perhaps removing the moderation. Don't get excited about it just yet, I don't want to get flooded with a bunch of "I don't want to be on the list then" messages. If I do it, I'll put it under majordomo so you can remove yourself if you want. I'm planning to move netatalk from 1.4b2 to 1.4, i.e. no beta. Most issues are Solaris related, but since this has been a nice long beta, a number of bug fixes have appeared, which I'd like to apply before this release. In any case, the only functionality change that is yet to be made is support for the Solaris lp print system. When we get that done (days, a week maybe), and I get all of the patches people sent me integrated, then I'll release netatalk 1.4. Thanks for your attention. :wes From netatalk.administrators-errors@umich.edu Sat Apr 19 10:45:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id KAA16411; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 10:45:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id KAA16409; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 10:45:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA16405; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 10:45:39 -0400 (EDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199704191445.KAA16405@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id WAA17180; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 22:28:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA25654; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 22:28:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from toronto.erg.sri.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA25648; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 22:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by toronto.erg.sri.com (8.7.5/2.7davy) id TAA02995; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 19:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704190228.TAA02995@toronto.erg.sri.com> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 19:28:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Arseneault To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: 2nd submission of a printing problem. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: bWJRL09ul07RqcjPzMwuvA== Resent-To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Resent-From: wesley.craig@umich.edu Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 10:45:39 -0400 Resent-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is the 2nd submission because I did not see any response from my first one and I have some new info. Problem: I can't print from any mac to a netatalk 1.3.3 server. Specifics: SparcIPX running 4.1.3_U1 SunOS. Macs IIcx and PowerMac 7600 runing 7.5 printcap entry: # ek320 ek320:\ :lf=/var/log/ek320-log:\ :lp=:\ :rm=toronto:\ :mx#0:\ :rp=ek320:\ :sd=/usr/spool/lpr/ek320: papd.conf entry: # A test printer ek320:\ :pr=ek320:op=nodody:pd=/opt/netatalk/lib/ppd/snsprec1.ppd: Short description of what I see: When the mac prints I see it looking for ek320 and then it says "sending to toronto" forever until it times out. I see this in the /var/adm/lpd-errs file: Apr 18 18:12:52 test6-0 papd[116]: child 286 for "ek320" from 2110.22 Apr 18 18:19:51 test6-0 papd[286]: connection timed out nothing in /var/adm/messages, /var/log/syslog, or /var/log/ek320-log. I print just fine from Unix to this printer. I also tried a papd.conf entry of just: ek320:\ :pr=ek320: no difference. I tried using pap to print to the printer and got this: command line: test6-0# /opt/netatalk/bin/pap -p ek320 /etc/motd Trying 2006.27:129 ... sending to toronto Connected to ek320:LaserWriter@*. Connection closed. /var/adm/lpd-errs: Apr 18 18:52:28 test6-0 papd[116]: child 213 for "ek320" from 2006.27 Apr 18 18:52:28 test6-0 papd[213]: lp_print queued Apr 18 18:52:28 test6-0 papd[116]: child 213 done still nothing comes out. The server is a freshly build right off the CDRom system with TCP wrappers installed along with some local sendmail things. We run NIS, DNS, and automounter. The PPD file is a windows file (the man page was very unclear on exactly what to do here). I added the services.atalk to both the NIS database and the local /etc/services file and remade the NIS. Here is the line from my rc.atalk that starts up papd: if [ -f ${ATALKDIR}/etc/papd ]; then ${ATALKDIR}/etc/papd; echo -n ' papd' fi I get no error messages during boot. File shareing works like a champ. There is nothing I hate more than something that everyone else runs just fine fails silently for me. If it were not for the fact that it is faster and supports more file types then Cap I'd chuch the whole thing and go bac to Cap. Any help would be much appriciated. Tom Arseneault arsen@erg.sri.com Sr. System Admin SRI International From netatalk.administrators-errors@umich.edu Fri May 23 10:26:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id KAA05896; Fri, 23 May 1997 10:26:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id KAA05894; Fri, 23 May 1997 10:26:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA05890; Fri, 23 May 1997 10:26:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705231426.KAA05890@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Netatalk project update 5/23/97 Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 10:26:33 -0400 From: Evan P Cordes Hello, If you are receiving this mail, you are a member of the netatalk-admins@umich.edu mailing list. If you no longer wish to be on this list, please send your administrative requests to netatalk-admins-request@umich.edu. We will promptly take care of your request. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The netatalk project has been on hold here for awhile now. We are pleased to announce that we are back on the job. We are currently sorting through many pieces of valuable mail contributed to the list in the past few months. The current status of netatalk-related issues: --------------------------------------------- 1) The web page is being revised. Check out the faq and the new mail archive from the main page. We'll try and keep you updated when major changes occur here: http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk/ 2) Your mail (if you've sent it) has not been dismissed. We have a pile to sort through, including bug reports, bug fixes, new features to add, etc. We are in the process of testing much of the code sent to us, and analyzing what will round out the final release of v1.4, and what will be further added to the next version. 3) We are switching this list over to Majordomo. Should make communication better in these waters. 4) Intended additions for full release v1.4: - building w/ AFS & kerberos for afpd on Solaris - printing in & out for Solaris - numerous bug fixes Estimated time of arrival (ETA) for v1.4: - please direct related questions to /dev/null - not to worry. we're still here. 5) Beyond 1.4, we have lots of code, and potential additions to netatalk which have to be looked at. For ETA, please see above. 6) The product is currently ported to those platforms listed on the webpage. There is also an existing NetBSD port that will be integrated into 1.4. No other ports are planned for 1.4. -------------------------- Thanks for your attention, netatalk@umich.edu list requests to: netatalk-admins-request@umich.edu list submissions: netatalk-admins@umich.edu netatalk team : netatalk@umich.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 12 20:04:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id UAA08010; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 20:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA08006; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 20:03:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA03469; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 20:03:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA03467; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 20:03:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wiesbaden.netsurf.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id UAA03455; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 20:03:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from XTREM by wiesbaden.netsurf.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #10) id m0wcKSQ-001ln8C; Fri, 13 Jun 97 02:43 MET DST Message-Id: Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "lars" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 01:41:42 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: no user logins to afpd - guest works fine X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all! Okay, this is probably an old but good one: Guest login to afpd on the linux box runs ok.... BUT: User logins (registered users on the linux) do not work. I have included the messages file from the linux below (add 2 comments after the "#"): ---------START MESSAGES------------- Jun 9 22:48:46 HOME1 syslogd 1.3-0: restart. Jun 9 22:48:49 HOME1 kernel: klogd 1.3-0, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Jun 9 22:48:50 HOME1 kernel: Loaded 3601 symbols from /System.map. Jun 9 22:48:50 HOME1 kernel: Symbols match kernel version. Jun 9 22:48:51 HOME1 /usr/sbin/cron[118]: (CRON) STARTUP (fork ok) Jun 9 22:48:54 HOME1 sendmail[130]: starting daemon (8.8.5): SMTP+queueing@00:30:00 Jun 9 22:49:00 HOME1 login[137]: ROOT LOGIN on `tty1' Jun 9 22:49:51 HOME1 atalkd[169]: restart (1.4b2) #manually started server Jun 9 22:49:52 HOME1 atalkd[169]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 Jun 9 22:50:11 HOME1 last message repeated 2 times Jun 9 22:50:21 HOME1 atalkd[169]: config for no router Jun 9 22:50:22 HOME1 atalkd[169]: ready 0/0/0 Jun 9 22:50:35 HOME1 papd[179]: restart (1.4b2) Jun 9 22:50:41 HOME1 afpd[181]: HOME1:AFPServer@* started on 66.230:128 (1.4b2) Jun 9 22:53:25 HOME1 afpd[195]: session from 65503.1:236 on 66.230:129 Jun 9 22:53:25 HOME1 afpd[195]: done Jun 9 22:53:25 HOME1 afpd[181]: asp_chld 195 done Jun 9 22:53:29 HOME1 afpd[196]: session from 65503.1:236 on 66.230:129 Jun 9 22:53:29 HOME1 afpd[196]: login noauth Jun 9 22:53:29 HOME1 afpd[196]: afp_getsrvrparms: stat /~: No such file or directory #problem here? Jun 9 22:53:54 HOME1 afpd[196]: done Jun 9 22:53:54 HOME1 afpd[181]: asp_chld 196 done ---------STOP MESSAGES------------- Does anyone have an idea? The linux box is also running SAMBA - with no probs at all. Is my error in the marked line? I have allready tried "Users can't log into afpd, but guest works fine. " on http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk/trouble.html - does not seem to work. Would "shadowed passwords" be another posibility? With no idea at all - anymore, seeking help, Lars From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 13 06:09:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id GAA10017; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 06:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA10013; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 06:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA10761; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 06:09:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA10758; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 06:09:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.eunet.ch by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA10743; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 06:09:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wwwsw.webshuttle.ch by mail.eunet.ch (8.8.5/1.34) id KAA24864; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 10:09:24 GMT Received: from webshuttle.ch (line6-pratteln.datacomm.ch [194.235.175.75]) by wwwsw.webshuttle.ch (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id MAA12629 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 12:03:20 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <120949092352.abwh.jungle@webshuttle.ch> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 97 09:23:52 From: Andres Petralli To: Netatalk Subject: Re: no user logins to afpd - guest works fine X-Mailer: PsiMail, STNC Internet MTA 1.53B MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ______________________________________________________ From: "lars" Date: 13.06.97 02:41 Subject: no user logins to afpd - guest works fine Hi all! Okay, this is probably an old but good one: Guest login to afpd on the linux box runs ok.... BUT: User logins (registered users on the linux) do not work. I have included the messages file from the linux below (add 2 comments af= ter the "#"): I got exactly the same problem, if somebody has a solution, please post! = I noticed that on older distributions it worked fine, but on newer it doe= sn't. (slackware 3.2; suse 4.4 ...)=20 Andres Petralli From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 13 06:49:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id GAA11037; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 06:49:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA11031; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 06:49:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA15202; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 06:49:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA15198; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 06:49:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lnx.url.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA15192; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 06:49:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lnx.url.de (mego@lnx.url.de [195.27.26.1]) by lnx.url.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA14413; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 12:49:31 +0200 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 12:49:31 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andreas Pieper To: Andres Petralli cc: Netatalk Subject: Re: no user logins to afpd - guest works fine In-Reply-To: <120949092352.abwh.jungle@webshuttle.ch> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 13 Jun 1997, Andres Petralli wrote: > > ______________________________________________________ > From: "lars" > Date: 13.06.97 02:41 > Subject: no user logins to afpd - guest works fine > > Hi all! > Okay, this is probably an old but good one: > > Guest login to afpd on the linux box runs ok.... > BUT: User logins (registered users on the linux) do not work. > I have included the messages file from the linux below (add 2 comments after the "#"): > > I got exactly the same problem, if somebody has a solution, please post! I noticed that on older distributions it worked fine, but on newer it doesn't. (slackware 3.2; suse 4.4 ...) Do you have a shadow password system? If yes, there is a patch for netatalk available at http://artoo.hitchcock.org/~flowerpt/projects/linux-netatalk/ aaa Andreas Pieper http://www.icf.de/mego/ Mego Berlin mailto:mego@url.de From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 13 08:57:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id IAA14701; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 08:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA14695; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 08:56:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA13586; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 08:56:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA13582; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 08:56:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay2.mail.uk.psi.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA13564; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 08:56:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net [154.32.106.14]) by relay2.mail.uk.psi.net (8.8.4/) with ESMTP id NAA04350 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 13:56:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from nan.UUCP by sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (8.7.5/SMI-5.5-UKPSINet) id NAA06883; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 13:42:08 +0100 (BST) Received: by mailhost.nan.co.uk (sendmail 8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA27434; Fri, 13 Jun 1997 13:33:48 +0100 X-Sender: sw@mailhost.nan.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 3.1 Organization: Network Analysis Ltd Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 13:33:26 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Sak Wathanasin Subject: Re: no user logins to afpd - guest works fine Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In reply to Andreas Pieper's message of the 13/06/97 at 12:49 +0200, > On Fri, 13 Jun 1997, Andres Petralli wrote: > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > From: "lars" > > Date: 13.06.97 02:41 > > Subject: no user logins to afpd - guest works fine > > > > Hi all! > > Okay, this is probably an old but good one: > > > > Guest login to afpd on the linux box runs ok.... > > BUT: User logins (registered users on the linux) do not work. > > I have included the messages file from the linux below (add 2 comments >after the "#"): > > > > I got exactly the same problem, if somebody has a solution, please post! I >noticed that on older distributions it worked fine, but on newer it doesn't. >(slackware 3.2; suse 4.4 ...) > > Do you have a shadow password system? If yes, there is a patch for > netatalk available at > > http://artoo.hitchcock.org/~flowerpt/projects/linux-netatalk/ > As I remember it, the patch is already included in netatalk 1.4b2. All you have to do is add DEFS=-DSHADOWPW to the appr makefile (.../sys/linux/makefile in my case) and rebuild. Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK Internet: sw@nan.co.uk uucp: ...!britain.eu.net!nan!sw Phone: (+44) 1203 419996 Fax: (+44) 1203 690690 From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jun 14 07:23:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id HAA03075; Sat, 14 Jun 1997 07:23:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA03071; Sat, 14 Jun 1997 07:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA06309; Sat, 14 Jun 1997 07:23:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA06304; Sat, 14 Jun 1997 07:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pagesz.net by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA06299; Sat, 14 Jun 1997 07:23:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [208.194.157.33] (isabella-33.pagesz.net [208.194.157.33]) by pagesz.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id HAA31773 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 1997 07:23:09 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 07:23:08 -0400 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Jesse Swensen Subject: Problems with installation Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am trying to install netatalk14b2 on NetBSD running on a Macintosh SE/30. I have been able to compile and install, but when I run rc.atalk I get an error: bind: Can't assign requested address I am at a loss as what to look for and/or where. Any ideas? ___________________________________________________________________ Jesse Swensen 111 Vashon CT. (919) 481-3480 (home) jrs@pagesz.net Cary, NC 27513 (919) 481-3363 (FAX) "Intel Inside" The worlds most used warning label. ___________________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jun 14 19:04:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id TAA09173; Sat, 14 Jun 1997 19:04:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id TAA09165; Sat, 14 Jun 1997 19:04:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id TAA09162; Sat, 14 Jun 1997 19:04:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA09154; Sat, 14 Jun 1997 19:04:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706142304.TAA09154@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Jesse Swensen cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Problems with installation In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 14 Jun 1997 07:23:08 EDT." Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 19:04:47 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Jesse Swensen > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > I am trying to install netatalk14b2 on NetBSD running on a Macintosh SE/30. > I have been able to compile and install, but when I run rc.atalk I get an > error: > > bind: Can't assign requested address > > I am at a loss as what to look for and/or where. Any ideas? I can tell you where to start. I don't have the NetBSD patches right in front of me, but they're based on the original 4.3BSD DDP code. Check out netatalk/ddp_usrreq.c, at_pcbsetaddr(). The error you're getting is EADDRNOTAVAIL, I think. A few printf()'s ought to be very illuminating. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jun 14 20:10:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id UAA10367; Sat, 14 Jun 1997 20:10:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA10363; Sat, 14 Jun 1997 20:10:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA15754; Sat, 14 Jun 1997 20:10:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA15749; Sat, 14 Jun 1997 20:10:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pagesz.net by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA15743; Sat, 14 Jun 1997 20:10:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [208.194.157.53] (isabella-53.pagesz.net [208.194.157.53]) by pagesz.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA17803 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 1997 20:10:08 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 20:10:05 -0400 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Jesse Swensen Subject: Re: Problems with installation Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In an earlier message I wrote: >I am trying to install netatalk14b2 on NetBSD running on a Macintosh >SE/30. I have been able to compile and install, but when I run rc.atalk I >get an error: > >bind: Can't assign requested address > >I am at a loss as what to look for and/or where. Any ideas? I have continued trying to hunt down the problem. It seems that the address it can not bind to is the ethernet card. If I run the rc.atalk before running netstart, it at least doesn't give me the above error. It just give me a usage error instead. Usage: nbprgstr obj:type@zone It would make sense to start the network stuff first before setting up netatalk. Suggestions??? Jesse ___________________________________________________________________ Jesse Swensen 111 Vashon CT. (919) 481-3480 (home) jrs@pagesz.net Cary, NC 27513 (919) 481-3363 (FAX) "Intel Inside" The worlds most used warning label. ___________________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jun 15 07:29:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id HAA01335; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 07:29:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA01325; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 07:29:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA20710; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 07:29:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA20708; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 07:29:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chava.netmedia.net.il by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA20704; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 07:29:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leyada.jlm.k12.il ([192.115.119.3]) by chava.netmedia.net.il (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06331 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 14:30:14 +0200 (IST) Received: from MIN4100/MAIL_Q by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 15 Jun 97 14:34:25 +0200 Received: from MAIL_Q by MIN4100 (Mercury 1.21); 15 Jun 97 14:31:49 +0200 From: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" Organization: Hebrew University Highschool To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 14:31:40 +0200 Subject: Printing unix printers on remote hosts. Reply-to: yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-ID: <14F925B1914@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu My unix printer is connected to the Ethernet line (I use rm= in my /etc/printcap file, printer name being a host name from the /etc/hosts file). I have defined it in the papd.conf something like this: UNIXPRT:\ :pr=: I get a connection timed out message. How do I make papd understand not to look in /dev/printer for answer? Thanks, Bye, Yannai -- Yannai A. Gonczarowski System Administrator yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il The Hebrew University High School http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/~yannaigo/ "Do you want to know something? Everybody's human." "I find that remark insulting." - Kirk and Spock, "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered contry", stardate 9529.1 From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jun 15 07:29:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id HAA01347; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 07:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA01330; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 07:29:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA00982; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 07:29:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA00980; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 07:29:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chava.netmedia.net.il by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA00970; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 07:29:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leyada.jlm.k12.il ([192.115.119.3]) by chava.netmedia.net.il (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06339 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 14:30:17 +0200 (IST) Received: from MIN4100/MAIL_Q by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 15 Jun 97 14:34:28 +0200 Received: from MAIL_Q by MIN4100 (Mercury 1.21); 15 Jun 97 14:32:49 +0200 From: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" Organization: Hebrew University Highschool To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 14:32:44 +0200 Subject: TIMELORD Reply-to: yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-ID: <14F96933CDE@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have installed ntimelord on my unix machine. How do I tell my MAC to work with it? Thanks, Bye, Yannai -- Yannai A. Gonczarowski System Administrator yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il The Hebrew University High School http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/~yannaigo/ "Do you want to know something? Everybody's human." "I find that remark insulting." - Kirk and Spock, "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered contry", stardate 9529.1 From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jun 15 07:34:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id HAA01518; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 07:34:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA01514; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 07:34:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA21050; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 07:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA21048; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 07:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chava.netmedia.net.il by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA21044; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 07:34:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leyada.jlm.k12.il ([192.115.119.3]) by chava.netmedia.net.il (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06772 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 14:34:46 +0200 (IST) Received: from MIN4100/MAIL_Q by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 15 Jun 97 14:38:57 +0200 Received: from MAIL_Q by MIN4100 (Mercury 1.21); 15 Jun 97 14:25:34 +0200 From: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" Organization: Hebrew University Highschool To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 14:25:27 +0200 Subject: .AppleDouble Reply-to: yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Message-ID: <14F77A2785D@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm using 1.4b2 When I mount the unix volume on my mac, a directory called .AppleDouble is created in every one of the writable directories. How do I: A. Prevent netatalk from creating this directory? (Unless I copy a file with two forks, then it is necessery). B. Make a volume mountable READ-ONLY (first option preferred). Thanks in advance, Bye, Yannai -- Yannai A. Gonczarowski System Administrator yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il The Hebrew University High School http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/~yannaigo/ "Do you want to know something? Everybody's human." "I find that remark insulting." - Kirk and Spock, "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered contry", stardate 9529.1 From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jun 15 18:57:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id SAA08154; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 18:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA08148; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 18:56:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA16825; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 18:56:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA16816; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 18:56:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA16810; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 18:56:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id PAA26921; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 15:56:50 -0700 Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 15:56:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: Jesse Swensen cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Problems with installation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, Jesse Swensen wrote: > I have continued trying to hunt down the problem. It seems that the > address it can not bind to is the ethernet card. If I run the rc.atalk > before running netstart, it at least doesn't give me the above error. It > just give me a usage error instead. > > Usage: nbprgstr obj:type@zone > > It would make sense to start the network stuff first before setting up > netatalk. Suggestions??? I'm confused. What name, exactly, is being registered, and what address? atalkd is up at this point? Are you using 1.2, the April snapshot, or -current (I know you've already told me, but I've forgotten)? Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jun 15 19:25:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id TAA09022; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:25:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA09018; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:25:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA20598; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:25:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA20596; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:25:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po6.andrew.cmu.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA20592; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:25:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from postman@localhost) by po6.andrew.cmu.edu (8.8.2/8.8.2) id TAA02674; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:25:02 -0400 Received: via switchmail; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:24:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix10.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:23:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix10.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:23:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Jun.27.1996.03.02.53.sun4.51.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix10.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4m.54 via MS.5.6.unix10.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4_51; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:23:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8nd7aBC00WB=0K1F80@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:23:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Matthew G Newcomb To: Jesse Swensen , Bill Studenmund Subject: Re: Problems with installation Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu G'day, The bind error mentioned makes me suspect that your kernel does not have appletalk support. At least that's the error I get when I mistakenly forget to compile in appletalk support. Matt "Yes, let me guess. My theories appall you, my heresies outrage you, I never answer letters, and you don't like my tie." 7th Doctor From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jun 15 19:35:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id TAA09561; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:35:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA09556; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:35:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA01042; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:35:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA01040; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:35:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pagesz.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA01036; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:35:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [208.194.157.57] (henryIV-93.pagesz.net [208.194.157.93]) by pagesz.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA32475; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:35:43 -0400 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:35:39 -0400 To: Bill Studenmund From: Jesse Swensen Subject: Re: Problems with installation Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, Jesse Swensen wrote: > >> I have continued trying to hunt down the problem. It seems that the >> address it can not bind to is the ethernet card. If I run the rc.atalk >> before running netstart, it at least doesn't give me the above error. It >> just give me a usage error instead. >> >> Usage: nbprgstr obj:type@zone >> >> It would make sense to start the network stuff first before setting up >> netatalk. Suggestions??? Then at 3:56 PM -0700 6/15/97, Bill Studenmund wrote: >I'm confused. What name, exactly, is being registered, and what address? > >atalkd is up at this point? Are you using 1.2, the April snapshot, or >-current (I know you've already told me, but I've forgotten)? I am using the -current from about the first of the month. Then problem it seems is you have to be running atalkd BEFORE it will work. I just don't understand...;-) After seeing that atalkd was not running and put it in the appropriate place, everything is working fine. I then put the call to rc.atalk in the rc.local script. It runs just fine AFTER netstart. Thanks again for your help. Jesse ___________________________________________________________________ Jesse Swensen 111 Vashon CT. (919) 481-3480 (home) jrs@pagesz.net Cary, NC 27513 (919) 481-3363 (FAX) "Intel Inside" The worlds most used warning label. ___________________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jun 15 19:44:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id TAA10204; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:44:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA10197; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:44:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA23157; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:44:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA23155; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:44:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pagesz.net by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA23148; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:44:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [208.194.157.57] (henryIV-93.pagesz.net [208.194.157.93]) by pagesz.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA00822; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:44:30 -0400 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8nd7aBC00WB=0K1F80@andrew.cmu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:44:26 -0400 To: Matthew G Newcomb , Bill Studenmund From: Jesse Swensen Subject: Re: Problems with installation Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 7:23 PM -0400 6/15/97, Matthew G Newcomb wrote: >G'day, > The bind error mentioned makes me suspect that your kernel does not >have appletalk support. At least that's the error I get when I >mistakenly forget to compile in appletalk support. Ya, Ya, Ya.... as mentioned in a previous message, I had not copied atalkd to the /usr/local/atalk/etc directory. Once I did, things began to work. Go figure...;-) Thanks for the help.... Jesse ___________________________________________________________________ Jesse Swensen 111 Vashon CT. (919) 481-3480 (home) jrs@pagesz.net Cary, NC 27513 (919) 481-3363 (FAX) "Intel Inside" The worlds most used warning label. ___________________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jun 15 23:20:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id XAA13216; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:20:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id XAA13209; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA04826; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA04824; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:20:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from transarc.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id XAA04820; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:20:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by transarc.com (5.54/3.15) id for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Sun, 15 Jun 97 23:20:11 EDT Received: via switchmail; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:20:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smithfield via qmail ID ; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:20:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smithfield via qmail ID ; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:19:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BatMail.robin.v2.12.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.smithfield.sun4c.53 via MS.5.6.smithfield.sun4_51; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:19:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <8nd=3TKSMV0_03aEM0@transarc.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:19:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat_Barron@transarc.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Has anyone succeeded in getting Netatalk 1.4b2 working on Solaris 2.5.1? It seems to mostly work for me, except that I can't copy files from a Macintosh to the Netatalk server - when I drag a file into a folder on a Netatalk server, it seems to mostly work, except at the end I get a pop-up message about "File does not exist" on the Mac (I have the exact error message written down at home, and can retrieve it if anyone thinks this sounds familiar); watching the AFP server with "truss", it seems that the data actually does make it across, but something happens at the end of the copy that makes it believe that it failed. Copying data *from* the Netatalk server to the Macintosh works fine. Any clues? Thanks, --Pat. From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jun 15 23:35:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id XAA14026; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id XAA14016; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:35:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA07546; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:35:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA07543; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:35:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iguana2.info.waka.kindai.ac.jp by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA07471; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:34:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bio.waka.kindai.ac.jp ([163.51.155.3]) by iguana2.info.waka.kindai.ac.jp (8.7.4/3.3W9/info-1.3ex) with ESMTP id MAA21217 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:32:46 +0900 (JST) Received: from plant (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bio.waka.kindai.ac.jp (8.8.4+2.7Wbeta4/3.4W597040212) with ESMTP id MAA03520 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:34:00 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199706160334.MAA03520@bio.waka.kindai.ac.jp> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: "looproute panic two routes" X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05 on Emacs 19.28.2, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:33:59 +0900 From: Futoshi Kaneko Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! All. I'm use netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1(Japanese edition). We usually use netatlk program at from 6:00pm till 9:00am. But we can't use other time. Because atalkd's error "looproute panic two routes". Maybe we have 2 seed router(But I don't know) and there serve different network address. Please tell me, How to solve this problem. >>>>This is atalkd.conf le0 -phase 2 -net 66-67 -zone "gene" >>>>This is /var/adm/messages Jun 16 11:53:43 xxxxx atalkd[483]: rtmp_packet: can't remove loopback: No such file or directory Jun 16 11:54:24 xxxxx atalkd[483]: looproute panic two routes Faculty of It is not death or hardship that is dreadful, Biology-Oriented but the fear of death and hardship. Science and Technology -------Epictetus, Discourses, II. KINKI UNIVERSITY E-mail kaneko@bio.waka.kindai.ac.jp From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 16 00:11:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id AAA18319; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:11:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id AAA18289; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:11:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA03863; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:11:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA03860; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:11:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from doc.unr.net by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id AAA03848; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:11:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (sneezy.unr.net [192.168.1.4]) by doc.unr.net (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id AAA00199 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:11:09 -0400 X-Sender: andy@doc.unr.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:10:58 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: andrew watson Subject: Re: Problems with installation Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, Jesse Swensen wrote: > >> I have continued trying to hunt down the problem. It seems that the >> address it can not bind to is the ethernet card. If I run the rc.atalk >> before running netstart, it at least doesn't give me the above error. It >> just give me a usage error instead. >> >> Usage: nbprgstr obj:type@zone >> >> It would make sense to start the network stuff first before setting up >> netatalk. Suggestions??? > >I'm confused. What name, exactly, is being registered, and what address? > >atalkd is up at this point? Are you using 1.2, the April snapshot, or >-current (I know you've already told me, but I've forgotten)? > >Take care, > >Bill i have the same problem with 1.4b2 on a redhat linux box. i have tried all kinds of things to get netatalk working but none of them hav worked all i get is bind: Can't assign requested address anybody know what might be going on? it's an old ethernet card, but not that old. thanks, andrew watson System Administrator Interactive Distance Learning @ FSU mailto:watson@cs.fsu.edu http://idl.fsu.edu http://idl2.fsu.edu http://www.gleep.org Give me ambiguity or give me something else. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 16 00:18:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id AAA19799; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:18:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id AAA19685; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA04776; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:17:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA04774; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:17:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from spsem02.sps.mot.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id AAA04766; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:17:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mogate.sps.mot.com by spsem02.sps.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Email 2.1 10/25/93) id AA05142 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Sun, 15 Jun 97 21:17:41 MST Received: from papageno.sps.mot.com by mogate.sps.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Email-2.0) id AA23576 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Sun, 15 Jun 97 21:17:39 MST Received: from papageno.sps.mot.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by papageno.sps.mot.com (8.8.5/3.5Wpl5-970410) with ESMTP id NAA29670; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:17:36 +0900 (JST) X-Mh-Biff: Version: mh-biff.el version 0.96.1 on Emacs 19.34.94.2 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Cc: Pat_Barron@transarc.com Subject: Re: Netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:19:59 -0400 (EDT)" References: <8nd=3TKSMV0_03aEM0@transarc.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.94.2 / Mule 3.0 X-Popi-Level: General Business Information Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19970616131733W.fujiwara@papageno.sps.mot.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:17:33 +0900 From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRiM4NhsoQl9fGyRCQD8bKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?Lw==?= Makoto Fujiwara X-Dispatcher: impost version 0.99h (Apr. 2, 1997) Lines: 19 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu We are using NetAtalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1. It is running fine. > It seems to mostly work for me, except that I can't copy files from a > Macintosh to the Netatalk server - when I drag a file into a folder on > a Netatalk server, it seems to mostly work, except at the end I get a > pop-up message about "File does not exist" on the Mac It looks to me the problem on writing files with permission. Can you create new file on server ? You have to (1) check the permission on server ( in Unix wise ) both with directories and .AppleDouble file, of owner and group, especially on group. (2) check the group id when you login the server. ( just say id on shell prompt ) Makoto Fujiwara, Nippon Motorola --- ($BF#86(B) From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 16 00:23:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id AAA21072; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:23:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id AAA21005; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:22:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA15266; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:22:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA15260; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:22:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from spsem02.sps.mot.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id AAA15241; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:22:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mogate.sps.mot.com by spsem02.sps.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Email 2.1 10/25/93) id AA05302 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Sun, 15 Jun 97 21:22:50 MST Received: from papageno.sps.mot.com by mogate.sps.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Email-2.0) id AA23607 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Sun, 15 Jun 97 21:22:47 MST Received: from papageno.sps.mot.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by papageno.sps.mot.com (8.8.5/3.5Wpl5-970410) with ESMTP id NAA29834; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:22:44 +0900 (JST) X-Mh-Biff: Version: mh-biff.el version 0.96.1 on Emacs 19.34.94.2 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Cc: yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il Subject: Re: .AppleDouble In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 15 Jun 1997 14:25:27 +0200" References: <14F77A2785D@leyada.jlm.k12.il> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.94.2 / Mule 3.0 X-Popi-Level: General Business Information Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19970616132242K.fujiwara@papageno.sps.mot.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:22:42 +0900 From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRiM4NhsoQl9fGyRCQD8bKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?Lw==?= Makoto Fujiwara X-Dispatcher: impost version 0.99h (Apr. 2, 1997) Lines: 21 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > I'm using 1.4b2 > When I mount the unix volume on my mac, a directory called > .AppleDouble is created in every one of the writable directories. How do I: That's why netatalk needs that directory to keep some resource related information. > A. Prevent netatalk from creating this directory? (Unless I copy a > file with two forks, then it is necessery). I guess even before copying file, the file server wants the directory. > B. Make a volume mountable READ-ONLY (first option preferred). I wonder why you do not want to have .AppleDouble. I believe it is necessary one for the server. Makoto Fujiwara, Nippon Motorola, (Just a netatalk user) --- ($BF#86(B) From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 16 00:53:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id AAA26728; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:53:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id AAA26721; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:52:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA19198; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:52:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA19196; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:52:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iguana2.info.waka.kindai.ac.jp by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id AAA18709; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 00:49:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bio.waka.kindai.ac.jp ([163.51.155.3]) by iguana2.info.waka.kindai.ac.jp (8.7.4/3.3W9/info-1.3ex) with ESMTP id NAA21502 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:47:21 +0900 (JST) Received: from [163.51.150.177] ([163.51.150.177]) by bio.waka.kindai.ac.jp (8.8.4+2.7Wbeta4/3.4W597040212) with SMTP id NAA03696 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:48:34 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199706160448.NAA03696@bio.waka.kindai.ac.jp> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:52:14 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: kaneko@bio.waka.kindai.ac.jp (Futoshi Kaneko) X-Sender: kaneko@plant.bio.waka.kindai.ac.jp Subject: looproute panic two routes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp X-Mailer: Eudora-J(1.3.8.5-J13) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! All. I'm use netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1(Japanese edition). We usually use netatlk program at from 6:00pm till 9:00am. But we can't use other time. Because atalkd's error "looproute panic two routes". Maybe we have 2 seed router(But I don't know) and there serve different network address. Please tell me, How to solve this problem. >>>>This is atalkd.conf le0 -phase 2 -net 66-67 -zone "gene" >>>>This is /var/adm/messages Jun 16 11:53:43 xxxxx atalkd[483]: rtmp_packet: can't remove loopback: No such file or directory Jun 16 11:54:24 xxxxx atalkd[483]: looproute panic two routes Faculty of It is not death or hardship that is dreadful, Biology-Oriented but the fear of death and hardship. Science and Technology -------Epictetus, Discourses, II. KINKI UNIVERSITY E-mail kaneko@bio.waka.kindai.ac.jp From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 16 03:57:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id DAA28841; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 03:57:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id DAA28837; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 03:56:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA00378; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 03:56:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA00376; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 03:56:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nikita.avernus.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id DAA00372; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 03:56:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from maxwell.avernus.com (maxwell.avernus.com [198.179.16.25]) by nikita.avernus.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA00973; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 03:56:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Geoff Adams Received: (from gadams@localhost) by maxwell.avernus.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA05624; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 03:56:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 03:56:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706160756.DAA05624@maxwell.avernus.com> To: Pat_Barron@transarc.com Subject: Re: Netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Has anyone succeeded in getting Netatalk 1.4b2 working on Solaris 2.5.1? Haven't tried that, but I think I know what your problem is anyway. :) > when I drag a file into a folder on > a Netatalk server, it seems to mostly work, except at the end I get a > pop-up message about "File does not exist" on the Mac My guess is that you are using Speed Doubler 2, and you have "Faster File Copying" turned on. I recently noticed exactly this problem, but I haven't looked into why it's occurring, yet. Turn off that option, and all will work. (I may be mistaken, and it's one of the other related options, but I think that's the one.) A couple days ago, I also noticed another Speed Doubler 2 problem: Movie Player does not recognize MPEG movies if you try to play them directly off a netatalk volume, while simply copying a movie to a local disk and then playing it works just fine. Haven't had a chance to look into this one, either. - Geoff From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 16 04:26:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id EAA00278; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 04:26:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA00266; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 04:26:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA12671; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 04:26:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA12669; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 04:26:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MTL-CICONF.NFB.ONF.CA by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA12665; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 04:26:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 204.19.79.239 by MTL-CICONF.NFB.ONF.CA with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Mon, 16 Jun 1997 04:24:09 -0400 Message-ID: <33A4F8AD.1B89@mtl-ciconf.nfb.onf.ca> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 04:26:21 -0400 From: Marc Lavallée Reply-To: marc@mtl-ciconf.nfb.onf.ca Organization: Office National du Film du Canada X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 References: <8nd=3TKSMV0_03aEM0@transarc.com> <19970616131733W.fujiwara@papageno.sps.mot.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >>It seems to mostly work for me, except that I can't copy files from a >>Macintosh to the Netatalk server - when I drag a file into a folder on >>a Netatalk server, it seems to mostly work, except at the end I get a >>pop-up message about "File does not exist" on the Mac I got the same error on Linux 2.0 and Solaris 2.5 with netatalk 1.4b2. Version 1.3.3 works fine with Linux but is incompatible with Solaris. > It looks to me the problem on writing files with permission. >Can you create new file on server ? > >You have to >(1) check the permission on server ( in Unix wise ) both with directories > and .AppleDouble file, of owner and group, especially on group. >(2) check the group id when you login the server. > ( just say id on shell prompt ) I tried so I know it won't help. Just get back to 1.3.3 if you're on Linux or mess with CAP if you're on Solaris. If you have money and no time to loose a better solution would be to get KAShare. Marc From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 16 06:53:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id GAA15595; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 06:53:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA15591; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 06:53:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA25772; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 06:53:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA25770; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 06:53:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pagesz.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA25766; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 06:53:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [208.194.157.49] (isabella-49.pagesz.net [208.194.157.49]) by pagesz.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id GAA01936; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 06:53:04 -0400 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 06:53:07 -0400 To: andrew watson , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Jesse Swensen Subject: Re: Problems with installation Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 12:10 AM -0500 6/16/97, andrew watson wrote: >i have the same problem with 1.4b2 on a redhat linux box. i have tried all >kinds of things to get netatalk working but none of them hav worked all i >get is >bind: Can't assign requested address >anybody know what might be going on? it's an old ethernet card, but not >that old. thanks, In my case, the make install did not copy atalkd to the correct directory. I had to move it by hand. Once I did that this error message went away and things worked great. Jesse ___________________________________________________________________ Jesse Swensen 111 Vashon CT. (919) 481-3480 (home) jrs@pagesz.net Cary, NC 27513 (919) 481-3363 (FAX) "Intel Inside" The worlds most used warning label. ___________________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 16 07:36:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id HAA16736; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 07:36:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA16731; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 07:36:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA00802; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 07:36:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA00800; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 07:36:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nora.hbk-bs.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id HAA00788; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 07:35:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from spock.hbk-bs.de by nora.hbk-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA00621; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:35:50 +0200 Received: by spock.hbk-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA03083; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:35:51 +0200 From: hanno@hbk-bs.de (Hanno Foest) Message-Id: <199706161135.NAA03083@spock.hbk-bs.de> Subject: desktop rebuild on netatalk volumes? To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:35:51 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, how do I rebuild the desktop database of a netatalk volume? - Hanno From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 16 07:53:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id HAA17240; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 07:53:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA17231; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 07:52:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA03600; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 07:52:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA03598; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 07:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id HAA03593; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 07:52:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from buster.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (buster.rob.cs.tu-bs.de [134.169.36.44]) by dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA24541; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:52:32 +0200 Received: by buster.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA16871; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:53:39 +0200 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:53:39 +0200 Message-Id: <199706161153.NAA16871@buster.rob.cs.tu-bs.de> From: Mario Klebsch DG1AM To: fujiwara@papageno.sps.mot.com CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, Pat_Barron@transarc.com In-reply-to: <19970616131733W.fujiwara@papageno.sps.mot.com> Subject: Re: Netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello! >You have to >(1) check the permission on server ( in Unix wise ) both with directories > and .AppleDouble file, of owner and group, especially on group. >(2) check the group id when you login the server. > ( just say id on shell prompt ) I once had group related problems with netatalk. When the Mac wanted to create a file on the server, the file should have had no group, and so the Mac sent 0 as Group ID, which is (according to inside AppleTalk) the code for "no group". But the netatalk server insisted of chwon()ing the file to gid 0, which resulted in EPERM. The "fix" was to add group 0 for every netatalk user. Fortunately, there were only two users and everyone of them had the root password. So security was not a problem. :-) This was prior to the 1.4 version, so perhaps (who knows) these problems are already fixed. 73, Mario -- Mario Klebsch, DG1AM, M.Klebsch@tu-bs.de +49 531 / 391 - 7457 Institut fuer Robotik und Prozessinformatik der TU Braunschweig Hamburger Strasse 267, 38114 Braunschweig, Germany From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 16 08:15:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id IAA18607; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:15:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA18592; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:15:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA01885; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:15:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA01883; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:15:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay2.mail.uk.psi.net by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA01868; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 08:15:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net [154.32.106.14]) by relay2.mail.uk.psi.net (8.8.4/) with ESMTP id NAA20953 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:15:41 +0100 (BST) Received: from nan.UUCP by sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (8.7.5/SMI-5.5-UKPSINet) id NAA06655; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 13:03:42 +0100 (BST) Received: by mailhost.nan.co.uk (sendmail 8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA05086; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:20:01 +0100 X-Sender: sw@mailhost.nan.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <33A4F8AD.1B89@mtl-ciconf.nfb.onf.ca> References: <8nd=3TKSMV0_03aEM0@transarc.com> <19970616131733W.fujiwara@papageno.sps.mot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 3.1 Organization: Network Analysis Ltd Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:19:37 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Sak Wathanasin Subject: Re: Netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In reply to Marc Lavall=C8e's (marc@mtl-ciconf.nfb.onf.ca) message of the 6/= 16/97 at 4:26 AM -0400, > >You have to > >(1) check the permission on server ( in Unix wise ) both with directories > > and .AppleDouble file, of owner and group, especially on group. > >(2) check the group id when you login the server. > > ( just say id on shell prompt ) > > I tried so I know it won't help. Just get back to 1.3.3 if you're on Linux= or > mess with CAP if you're on Solaris. If you have money and no time to loose= a > better solution would be to get KAShare. Well, I'm currently running 1.4b2 with Linux so it's definitely not a 1.3.3/1.4b2 problem. My money's on access permissions or maybe that SpeedDoubler thing (I don't run that here....) Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK Internet: sw@nan.co.uk uucp: ...!britain.eu.net!nan!sw Phone: (+44) 1203 419996 Fax: (+44) 1203 690690 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 16 10:28:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id KAA21488; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:28:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id KAA21485; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:28:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id KAA21483; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA21475; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:28:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706161428.KAA21475@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: marc@mtl-ciconf.nfb.onf.ca cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 16 Jun 1997 04:26:21 EDT." <33A4F8AD.1B89@mtl-ciconf.nfb.onf.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----- =_aaaaaaaaaa0" Content-ID: <21451.866471274.0@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:28:37 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="x-unknown" Content-ID: <21451.866471274.1@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > From: Marc Lavall=E9e > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > I tried so I know it won't help. Just get back to 1.3.3 if you're on Lin= ux or > mess with CAP if you're on Solaris. If you have money and no time to loo= se a = > better solution would be to get KAShare. Presuming it's a group permission problem, 1.3.3 handles them worse than 1.4b2. The final release of 1.4 will not pass on any error that chown() generates. As a matter of fact, you can verify that this is your problem, by editing etc/afpd/unix.c and removing the return(-1)s that follow the few chowns in setdirown(). Once you've done that, the only way a chown() (or other group ownership problem) will give you errors, is when the Mac specifically checks. :wes Actually, since the diff is small, find it below... ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <21451.866471274.2@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Content-Description: don't report chown() errors *** etc/afpd/unix.c- Tue Oct 1 15:26:52 1996 --- etc/afpd/unix.c Fri Mar 14 14:52:16 1997 *************** *** 633,639 **** closedir( dir ); /* ! * We cheat: we know that chown doesn't do anything. */ if ( stat( ".AppleDouble", &st ) < 0 ) { syslog( LOG_ERR, "setdirowner: stat .AppleDouble: %m" ); --- 633,641 ---- closedir( dir ); /* ! * We cheat when we know that chown doesn't do anything. ! * Ignore these errors, there are cases where the Mac tries to ! * set the group and it's just not possible. */ if ( stat( ".AppleDouble", &st ) < 0 ) { syslog( LOG_ERR, "setdirowner: stat .AppleDouble: %m" ); *************** *** 640,646 **** return( -1 ); } if ( gid && gid != st.st_gid && chown( ".AppleDouble", uid, gid ) < 0 ) { ! return( -1 ); } if ( stat( ".", &st ) < 0 ) { --- 642,649 ---- return( -1 ); } if ( gid && gid != st.st_gid && chown( ".AppleDouble", uid, gid ) < 0 ) { ! syslog( LOG_DEBUG, "setdirowner: chown %d/%d %s: %m", ! uid, gid, ".AppleDouble" ); } if ( stat( ".", &st ) < 0 ) { *************** *** 647,653 **** return( -1 ); } if ( gid && gid != st.st_gid && chown( ".", uid, gid ) < 0 ) { ! return( -1 ); } return( 0 ); --- 650,657 ---- return( -1 ); } if ( gid && gid != st.st_gid && chown( ".", uid, gid ) < 0 ) { ! syslog( LOG_DEBUG, "setdirowner: chown %d/%d %s: %m", ! uid, gid, "." ); } return( 0 ); ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0-- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 16 10:45:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id KAA22762; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:45:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA22749; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:45:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA03674; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:45:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA03669; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:45:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uustar.starnet.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA03661; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:45:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from Udatapag@localhost) by uustar.starnet.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id JAA00305 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:42:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [172.16.6.1] by datapage.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA03262; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:18:04 -0500 X-Sender: tim@stlouis.datapage.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:14:17 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Tim Rand Subject: Odd AFP death under Solaris 2.5.1 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have another problem with 1.4b2 that I wanted to raise. After about a day or so, Chooser refuses to talk to the SUN. Environment: Solaris 2.5.1, Sparc Ultra 140 After the failure, the server entry shows up in the chooser list, but then when you go to pick it, I get a response back of: "No response from server. Please try again." Restarting the SUN fixes the problem for another 48 hours or so and then things hang again. I do see this in my /var/adm/messages: >May 21 17:44:13 stlouis afpd[12290]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Connection timed out >May 21 17:44:14 stlouis afpd[205]: main: asp_getsession: Resource temporarily unavailable Also, it seems like I don't have any AFP processes running now: >> ps -ef | grep atalk > root 193 1 0 May 20 ? 0:00 /opt/local/atalk/etc/atalkd > root 203 1 0 May 20 ? 0:01 /opt/local/atalk/etc/papd -p >/etc/printcap.atalk Until this problem is resolved, a manual work-around is: nbpunrgstr 'stlouis:AFPServer@*' # Where stlouis is your node name /opt/local/atalk/etc/afpd From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 16 11:06:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id LAA24043; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:06:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id LAA24035; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:06:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id LAA24033; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:06:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA24024; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:06:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706161506.LAA24024@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Tim Rand cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Odd AFP death under Solaris 2.5.1 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:14:17 CDT." Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:06:07 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Tim Rand > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > afpd[205]: main: asp_getsession: Resource temporarily unavailable Find the fix attached. Solaris adds/changes some fairly standard return values for certain functions, as part of the difference between Berkeley and AT&T signals. :wes #text/plain [add EAGAIN check] /tmp/asp_getsess.c.diffs From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 16 11:23:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id LAA24663; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:23:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA24648; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:22:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA10555; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:14:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA10765; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:14:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA10762; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:14:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA10755; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:14:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA10510; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:14:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706161514.LAA10510@runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Tim Rand cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Odd AFP death under Solaris 2.5.1 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 16 Jun 1997 09:14:17 CDT." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----- =_aaaaaaaaaa0" Content-ID: <24296.866474062.0@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:14:35 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <24296.866474062.1@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> > From: Tim Rand > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > afpd[205]: main: asp_getsession: Resource temporarily unavailable Find the fix attached. Solaris adds/changes some fairly standard return values for certain functions, as part of the difference between Berkeley and AT&T signals. :wes ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <24296.866474062.2@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Content-Description: add EAGAIN check *** libatalk/asp/asp_getsess.c- Sat Oct 19 17:13:22 1996 --- libatalk/asp/asp_getsess.c Thu Nov 7 18:18:22 1996 *************** *** 191,197 **** atpb.atp_rreqdata = rdata; atpb.atp_rreqdlen = sizeof( rdata ); if ( atp_rreq( asp->asp_atp, &atpb ) < 0 ) { ! if ( errno == EINTR ) { continue; } return( NULL ); --- 191,197 ---- atpb.atp_rreqdata = rdata; atpb.atp_rreqdlen = sizeof( rdata ); if ( atp_rreq( asp->asp_atp, &atpb ) < 0 ) { ! if ( errno == EINTR || errno == EAGAIN ) { continue; } return( NULL ); ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0-- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 16 11:43:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id LAA25869; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:43:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA25865; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:43:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA22931; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:43:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA22919; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:43:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psidev.persci.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA22892; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 11:43:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [199.5.159.200] (dyna-200.persci.com [199.5.159.200]) by psidev.persci.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA21172 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:43:07 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: larrysb@mail.persci.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 10:43:05 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Larry Barras Subject: REMOVE Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu REMOVE remove larrysb@persci.com { if a human gets this, please drop me from netatalk list, or drop me a line with instructions. I thought I dropped netatalk some time ago } Larry Barras PSI, a division of IRIS. League City, Texas From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 16 12:09:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id MAA27488; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:09:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA27484; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:09:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA04633; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:08:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA04622; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:08:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from york.interport.net by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA04566; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:08:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from interport.net (cyerkes@madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by york.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12524; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:08:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from cyerkes@localhost) by interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA17835; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:08:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706161608.MAA17835@interport.net> Subject: Re: Netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 To: marc@mtl-ciconf.nfb.onf.ca Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:08:32 -0400 (EDT) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <33A4F8AD.1B89@mtl-ciconf.nfb.onf.ca> from "Marc Lavallée" at Jun 16, 97 04:26:21 am From: chuck+na@yerkes.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu It is claimed, but unverified, that Marc Lavallée wrote: [...] > If you have money and no time to lose a > better solution would be to get KAShare. KAShare is also faster than netatalk/CAP. You also get support and someone to yell at, which is important to some managers. (to stave off the flames, yes, I use netatalk some (and OpenBSD - the more secure NetBSD derivative), and understand the use/importance of freely available software. Some companies insist on commercial software though.) chuck From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 16 12:30:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id MAA28934; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA28887; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:30:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA13293; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:30:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA13284; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:30:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nef.ens.fr by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA13222; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 12:30:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from trefle.ens.fr (trefle.ens.fr [129.199.96.17]) by nef.ens.fr (8.8.5/jtpda-5.1) with ESMTP id SAA07888 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 18:30:13 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from (beig@localhost) by trefle.ens.fr (8.8.5/jb-1.1) Message-ID: <19970616183009.20855@trefle.ens.fr> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 18:30:09 +0200 From: Jacques Beigbeder To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: pap on Solaris 2.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Versions: Sun SS5/170 or SS4/110 (2 installations) SunOS 5.5 + a lot of patches (not 2.5.1) netatalk-1.4b2 (no patch) Problem: sometimes, pap enters an infinite loop. But the printer is idle! (as shown with 'truss -p ). It's very annoying because the printer is allocated to the Sun netatalk driver, so Mac boxes can't access the printer. Killing the pap process releases the printer, and Mac boxes can then print. Jacques Beigbeder | Internet: beig@ens.fr Service de Prestations Informatiques | http://www.spi.ens.fr/ Ecole normale superieure | 45 rue d'Ulm | Tel : 01 44 32 37 96 F75230 Paris Cedex 05 | Fax : 01 44 32 20 80 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jun 17 13:00:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id NAA25792; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:00:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA25782; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:00:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA03707; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:00:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA03704; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:00:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wire4.dz.ap.org by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA03690; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:00:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mwelles@localhost) by wire4.dz.ap.org (8.8.5/8.8.5/0.1) id NAA22270; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:00:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:00:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706171700.NAA22270@wire4.dz.ap.org> From: "M. L. Welles" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Geoff Adams cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 In-Reply-To: <199706160756.DAA05624@maxwell.avernus.com> References: <199706160756.DAA05624@maxwell.avernus.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Speed doubler was the culprit for the problems we were having around here, too (netatalk on Solaris 2.5.1). I haven't had a chance to look into it, either. Geoff Adams writes: > > Has anyone succeeded in getting Netatalk 1.4b2 working on Solaris 2.5.1? > > Haven't tried that, but I think I know what your problem is anyway. :) > > > when I drag a file into a folder on > > a Netatalk server, it seems to mostly work, except at the end I get a > > pop-up message about "File does not exist" on the Mac > > My guess is that you are using Speed Doubler 2, and you have "Faster > File Copying" turned on. I recently noticed exactly this problem, but I > haven't looked into why it's occurring, yet. Turn off that option, and > all will work. (I may be mistaken, and it's one of the other related > options, but I think that's the one.) > > A couple days ago, I also noticed another Speed Doubler 2 problem: Movie > Player does not recognize MPEG movies if you try to play them directly > off a netatalk volume, while simply copying a movie to a local disk and > then playing it works just fine. Haven't had a chance to look into this > one, either. > > - Geoff > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jun 17 13:44:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id NAA27333; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:44:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA27327; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:43:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA18857; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:43:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA18846; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:43:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ncsa.uiuc.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA18836; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:43:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [141.142.103.240] (speed.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.103.240]) by ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09655 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 12:44:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 12:45:28 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Matt Elliott Subject: Netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 Panics Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've installed netatalk 1.4b2 on a Ultra Sparc running Solaris 2.5.1. I have AFS installed and after running the netatalk daemons the server panics some time during the next 8 hours. Has anyone had a similar experience? Without netatalk running the server has been up for 86days. Matt From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jun 17 14:23:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id OAA29328; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:23:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA29317; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:22:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA03710; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:22:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA03701; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:22:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA03691; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:22:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from p53.cancer.med.umich.edu by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with SMTP id OAA10900; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:22:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by p53.cancer.med.umich.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05183; Tue, 17 Jun 97 14:22:51 EDT Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:21:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Erdwing Coronado Subject: Re: Netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 Panics To: Matt Elliott Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu That was my experience too. Because of another project I couldn't do any follow up and decided to run the old version a few more months on my trusty SPARC 10. _______________________________________________________________________________ Erdwing Coronado coronado@umich.edu _______________________________________________________________________________ On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, Matt Elliott wrote: > I've installed netatalk 1.4b2 on a Ultra Sparc running Solaris 2.5.1. I > have AFS installed and after running the netatalk daemons the server panics > some time during the next 8 hours. Has anyone had a similar experience? > Without netatalk running the server has been up for 86days. > > > > > Matt > > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jun 17 14:55:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id OAA01785; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:55:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA01779; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:55:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA16388; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:55:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA16381; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:55:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uustar.starnet.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA16344; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 14:55:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from Udatapag@localhost) by uustar.starnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with UUCP id NAA07611; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:41:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [172.16.6.1] by datapage.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA08499; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:31:05 -0500 X-Sender: tim@stlouis.datapage.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:26:46 -0500 To: Matt Elliott From: Tim Rand Subject: Re: Netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 Panics Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >I've installed netatalk 1.4b2 on a Ultra Sparc running Solaris 2.5.1. I >have AFS installed and after running the netatalk daemons the server panics >some time during the next 8 hours. Has anyone had a similar experience? >Without netatalk running the server has been up for 86days. I too have had the panic, but only when I try to stop the atalkd. If I avoid that step then my system does stay up. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jun 17 20:21:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id UAA10986; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 20:21:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA10978; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 20:21:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA28102; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 20:21:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA28099; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 20:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from octarine.cc.adfa.oz.au by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA28092; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 20:21:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from apw@localhost) by octarine.cc.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA03787 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:21:03 +1000 (EST) From: Tony Watson Message-Id: <199706180021.KAA03787@octarine.cc.adfa.oz.au> Subject: Does Netatalk allow printer accounting and licence managing ? To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:21:03 +1000 (EST) Reply-To: apw@ee.adfa.oz.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm glad to see the netatalk list up and running .... I've inherited a site that runs a little bit of netatalk and a little bit of CAPS and I'd like to "iron out" the system, by reinstalling one or the other. Two of my requirements are: - to be able to do per-user printer accounting, - to be able to do licence metering (on applications), (CAPS appears to be able to do this. That is, to have applications installed on the server, but limited in usage by netatalk according to how many licences I tell it we have for each application.) I've had a look in the FAQ, etc and I can't see the answers there. Could someone let me know if netatalk can do this, so that I know which way to go (I'd prefer to go with netatalk if possible -- it appears to be superior in many other ways). -- Thanks in advance, Tony Watson e-mail: t-watson@ee.adfa.oz.au IT Manager Dept of Electrical Engineering ADFA Canberra Australia From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jun 17 21:55:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id VAA13009; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 21:55:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id VAA13005; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 21:55:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA02123; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 21:55:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA02117; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 21:55:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nora.hbk-bs.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id VAA02103; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 21:55:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from spock.hbk-bs.de by nora.hbk-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id DAA01256; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 03:54:56 +0200 Received: from marvin.hbk-bs.de by spock.hbk-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id DAA04693; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 03:54:59 +0200 Received: by marvin.hbk-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id DAA03973; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 03:54:59 +0200 From: hanno@hbk-bs.de (Hanno Foest) Message-Id: <199706180154.DAA03973@marvin.hbk-bs.de> Subject: Re: Netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 Panics In-Reply-To: from Matt Elliott at "Jun 17, 97 12:45:28 pm" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 03:54:59 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, > I've installed netatalk 1.4b2 on a Ultra Sparc running Solaris 2.5.1. I > have AFS installed and after running the netatalk daemons the server panics > some time during the next 8 hours. Has anyone had a similar experience? I remember kernel panics each reboot of our Ultra 2 (Solaris 2.5.1) for some time. I found that the ddp.conf in /usr/kernel had been installed with exectutable permissions - 755, as far as I remember. I didn't notice any panics after changing them to 644 like the other .conf files are. Hanno From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 18 03:51:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id DAA27324; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 03:51:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id DAA27320; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 03:50:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA22573; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 03:50:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA22570; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 03:50:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.datakom.su.se by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id DAA22563; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 03:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.datakom.su.se (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA25745 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 07:50:53 GMT Received: from ftp.botan.su.se(130.237.178.3) by mail via smap (V1.3) id sma025722; Wed Jun 18 09:50:19 1997 Received: from BOTANIK/MAILQ by ftp.botan.se (Mercury 1.21); 18 Jun 97 10:06:13 GMT+1 Received: from MAILQ by BOTANIK (Mercury 1.21); 18 Jun 97 10:05:43 GMT+1 Received: from [130.237.178.8] by ftp.botan.se (Mercury 1.21) with ESMTP; 18 Jun 97 10:05:33 GMT+1 X-Sender: wikstron@ftp.botan.su.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:54:36 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Niklas =?iso-8859-1?Q?Wikstr=F6m?= Subject: Speed problems on Linux Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I am running netatalk on a Linux kernel version 2.0.18. I have tried both the 1.3.3 as well as the 1.4 beta version of netatalk but I am having the same problems. Problem: Copying files between the connected Macs and the Linux box is extremely slow, about 5-10 k/sec wich I believe is way below expected. Excluding the speed problem everything appears to work as it should. Has anyone been experiencing similar problems. Could other machines connected to the net influence the behaviour of netatalk. The linux box is attached to a net running both macs as well as PC:s. The PC:s are talking APX using a NetWare server. Could this NetWare server have any effect on the speed. Would appreciate some help on this. Thanks in advance Niklas ****************************************** Niklas Wikstr=F6m Deptartment of Botany Stockholm university S-106 91 Stockholm Tel: +46 8 163927 =46ax: +46 8 162577 e-mail: wikstrom@botan.su.se ****************************************** From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 18 04:10:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id EAA28007; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 04:10:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA28003; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 04:10:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA06032; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 04:10:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA06030; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 04:10:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.monsterboard.com.au by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA06022; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 04:10:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from paulw@localhost) by www.monsterboard.com.au (8.8.2/8.8.2) id SAA06468; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 18:10:33 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 18:10:33 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Wilkins To: Niklas cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Speed problems on Linux In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Niklas wrote: > Hi, > > I am running netatalk on a Linux kernel version 2.0.18. I have tried both > the 1.3.3 as well as the 1.4 beta version of netatalk but I am having the > same problems. > > Problem: Copying files between the connected Macs and the Linux box is > extremely slow, about 5-10 k/sec wich I believe is way below expected. > Excluding the speed problem everything appears to work as it should. Has > anyone been experiencing similar problems. Are the macs and server on the same segment? If so, there's something very dodge with your network. Trouble is, debugging Appletalk's a bitch. First, run statnet to see your loading on the network. If the segment's saturated, there's your problem. Second, make sure ALL macs are talking Ethertalk II. 3, use only 1 or 2 cable ranges. Please let me know if you are using a _large_ cable range like 100, and if this fixes the problem. > Could other machines connected to the net influence the behaviour of > netatalk. The linux box is attached to a net running both macs as well as > PC:s. The PC:s are talking APX using a NetWare server. Could this NetWare > server have any effect on the speed. Yes if the network is heavily loaded. Also, it could be a problem if you're running 802.3 as your frame type. (802.3 has no way of differentiating protocols). You can force the PC's driver to use 802.2 SNAP in the .cfg file, and I'd recommend you do that. EthertalkII as a frame type is also cool. Hope something here helps. Paul TTT M M M PPP T MMMMM PPPP T M M M P Disclaimer: The views herein expressed do not necessarily reflect those of TMP Worldwide or its affiliated companies. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 18 04:14:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id EAA28253; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 04:14:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA28237; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 04:14:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA24393; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 04:14:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA24391; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 04:14:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from v-connect.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA24381; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 04:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by conngw.v-connect.com id <20481>; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:28:31 +0000 X-Sender: thomas@mail.v-connect.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:13:57 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Thomas Lamy Subject: Re: Speed problems on Linux Message-Id: <97Jun18.102831gmt.20481@conngw.v-connect.com> Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Hi, > >I am running netatalk on a Linux kernel version 2.0.18. I have tried both >the 1.3.3 as well as the 1.4 beta version of netatalk but I am having the >same problems. > >Problem: Copying files between the connected Macs and the Linux box is >extremely slow, about 5-10 k/sec wich I believe is way below expected. >Excluding the speed problem everything appears to work as it should. Has >anyone been experiencing similar problems. > As far as I can tell, 1.4b2 is way faster than 1.3.3, and has many bugs fixe= d. Personally I favor running 1.4b2. The biggest performance leaks for netatalk are the network adaptor and the disk. I tried various cards on my linux box, and found most ne2000 clones to be extremely slow. 3Com cards and the SMC Ultra worked perfectly for me, as they achieve good throughput with less cpu load. Another performance issue is the mac itself. If you have a mac which _must not_ run Open Transport, don't do so. The Apple Share client on the mac is not OT native, but uses some compatibility routines which are extremely slow. I tried a Quadra 950 with and without OT, with OT, i got 300-400 k/sec, and wihout OT 700-750 k/sec (raw read throughput). >Could other machines connected to the net influence the behaviour of >netatalk. The linux box is attached to a net running both macs as well as >PC:s. The PC:s are talking APX using a NetWare server. Could this NetWare >server have any effect on the speed. This should not affect the netatalk server itself. You should only get a speed decrease if the network is really busy. Try in non-busy hours, and test with only the netatalk server and your mac in a 'private' network. > >Would appreciate some help on this. > What is your exact configuration (Server: Processor/Speed, RAM, network card, disk controller, disk; Mac: Model, System Software, File Copy Extensions (such as Speed Copy, Copy Doubler etc), transport software (Open Transport / Classic network software) ??? >Thanks in advance > >Niklas > >****************************************** >Niklas Wikstr=F6m >Deptartment of Botany >Stockholm university >S-106 91 Stockholm > >Tel: +46 8 163927 >Fax: +46 8 162577 >e-mail: wikstrom@botan.su.se >****************************************** Thomas Lamy Vision Connect GmbH Telefon: (089) 356256-= 35 Database Development Division Taunusstra=DFe 51 Telefax: (089) 35625= 6-56 mailto:thomas@v-connect.com 80807 M=FCnchen http://www.v-connect= =2Ecom/ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 18 04:21:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id EAA29016; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 04:21:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA29004; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 04:21:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA24860; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 04:21:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA24858; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 04:21:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.monsterboard.com.au by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA24854; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 04:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from paulw@localhost) by www.monsterboard.com.au (8.8.2/8.8.2) id SAA06524; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 18:21:05 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 18:21:05 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Wilkins To: Niklas , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Speed problems on Linux In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Second, make sure ALL macs are talking Ethertalk II. Oops, that should have read Second, make sure ALL macs are talking Appletalk phase II. Paul TTT M M M PPP T MMMMM PPPP T M M M P Disclaimer: The views herein expressed do not necessarily reflect those of TMP Worldwide or its affiliated companies. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 18 05:16:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id FAA13441; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 05:16:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id FAA13437; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 05:15:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA28651; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 05:15:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA28643; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 05:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MTL-CICONF.NFB.ONF.CA by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id FAA28638; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 05:15:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 204.19.79.244 by MTL-CICONF.NFB.ONF.CA with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Wed, 18 Jun 1997 05:13:34 -0400 Message-ID: <33A7A747.4A4@mtl-ciconf.nfb.onf.ca> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 05:15:51 -0400 From: Marc Lavallée Reply-To: marc@mtl-ciconf.nfb.onf.ca Organization: Office National du Film du Canada X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Matthew Temple wrote: [...] > and it seems that most ongoing development of cross-platform Mac > Servers will turn out to be in Cap and Netatalk. [...] > Not to deny the use of real technical support. But a smart > administrator knows that having a second protocol, having a second > provider of a service, and having other platforms on which software > runs are all prudent decisions. Who do you yell at when the company > goes belly up? I deeply agree with you Matthew, but here's my real life story than explain why I'm using KAShare instead of Netatalk or CAP: I recently installed a 9 Gigs drive on a Solaris server to manage an archive of over 40 thousands images. I first tried to install Netatalk because I'm using it with success on a few Linux boxes; Netatalk is much better than CAP but version 1.4b2 was not working well enough so I turned to CAP. CAP did the job for a few months then for some reason it started to crash from time to time, not to mention the difficulties I had to configure it. KAShare is easier to install and configure, it is solid and faster than CAP. KAShare is commercial but it is not too "dangerous" to use it because its file structure is compatible with CAP. So even if Microsoft acquire KAShare to kill the Macintosh market, I can get back to CAP or Netatalk (wich are essential to the Macintosh/Unix community). Marc From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 18 10:01:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id KAA18710; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:01:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA18670; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:01:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA20021; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:01:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA20017; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:01:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server.proxy.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id KAA20010; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:01:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [199.212.225.34] by server.proxy.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0weLIY-00073bC; Wed, 18 Jun 97 10:01 EDT X-Sender: becker@mail.proxy.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:05:38 -0400 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Bernard Becker Subject: AFP 2.2 Rev8 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Apple has recently finished beta testing AppleShare IP 5.0, our new AppleShare file server implementation. The new AppleShare Client 3.7 supports AFP over IP. Users can log onto older servers in the traditional method and communicate via AppleTalk, or connect to a new server that supports afp 2.2 rev 8 and as part of the negotiated login the server and client agree to talk via IP. This allows for connections to remote servers across the internet and across LAN's where the IS dept refuses to route AppleTalk. If AppleTalk is available the Servers show up in the chooser using NBP. If AppleTalk in not available there is a dialogue box for entering the IP address or name of the remote server. Details on the technology can be found at: http://appleshareip.apple.com/appleshareip/text/technology.html Details on the afp 2.2 rev 8 spec are at: http://appleshareip.apple.com/appleshareip/text/afp2.2specificationv8.hqx Are there any plans from the developers and maintainers to incorporate this new spec into netatalk? + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Bernard Becker, Sr. Systems Engineer, Apple Canada Apple Network Managers Assoc. Ontario, Prez. If you're absurdly interested in my life: Life's too short to do DOS support. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 18 10:57:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id KAA21943; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:57:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA21929; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:57:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA03113; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:57:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA03066; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:57:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iglou1 by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id KAA03010; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:57:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mfreeman by iglou1 with smtp (8.7.3/8.6.12) id 0weMAi-0001AD-00; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:57:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:57:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael M. Freeman" X-Sender: mfreeman@iglou1 To: Bernard Becker cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: AFP 2.2 Rev8 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Bernard Becker wrote: > Apple has recently finished beta testing AppleShare IP 5.0, our new > AppleShare file server implementation. > [BIG SNIP] > > Are there any plans from the developers and maintainers to incorporate this > new spec into netatalk? > Greetings Bernard, There are actually two "unofficial" implementations of AFP-over-TCP for netatalk. One is the "netatalk-2.0a6" distribution from Adrian Sun of washington.edu and the other is my more modest "afptcpd-0.1a3" distribution. The "netatalk-2.0a6" dist. is a major revision of 1.4b2 that incorporates AFP 2.2 (including AFP-over-TCP) into afpd. The "afptcpd" dist. is an add-on (separate daemon) to 1.4b2. Both run under Linux 2.0.x/2.1.x and SunOS 4.1.x. ARGGGG Pager just went off. To be continued...... Mike Freeman From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 18 10:58:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id KAA21999; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA21969; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:57:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA11384; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:57:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA11379; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:57:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netguide.netguide.dk by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA11366; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:57:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [130.227.158.132] (pope.netguide.dk [130.227.158.132]) by netguide.netguide.dk (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA05413; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 16:57:28 +0200 X-Sender: pope@pop.netguide.dk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 16:57:11 +0200 To: Bernard Becker From: "Povl H. Pedersen" Subject: Re: AFP 2.2 Rev8 Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Apple has recently finished beta testing AppleShare IP 5.0, our new >AppleShare file server implementation. >Details on the technology can be found at: >http://appleshareip.apple.com/appleshareip/text/technology.html > >Details on the afp 2.2 rev 8 spec are at: >http://appleshareip.apple.com/appleshareip/text/afp2.2specificationv8.hqx > >Are there any plans from the developers and maintainers to incorporate this >new spec into netatalk? I would say it would be a VERY GOOD thing to have. I want AppleShare routing. And doing it over IP allows us to make a derivate product (I think we should make NetAtalk IP independent, or a compile option) that is completely kernel independent. All it needs is to be started out of inetd or started by a root suid dispatcher (it uses port 548). I have not looked much at the netatalk code, so I am not the right one to ask about all this. But it is my guess, that it is only a few things in the network end that should be modified, and you can drop all the kernel appletalk support. I think this sounds great. Looking at the standard, it looks good, as it allows multiple outstanding requests at any time, and of course the larger MTU. --- Povl H. Pedersen NetGuide Scandinavia AB Phone: +45 8618 1823 Cellular: +45 4093 5511 Fax: +45 8612 4680 Homepage: http://www.netguide.dk/~pope / e-mail: mailto:pope@netguide.dk Macintosh/UNIX/Windows specialist. Microsoft Certified Professional From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 18 11:31:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id LAA24180; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 11:31:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA24159; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 11:31:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA19264; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 11:31:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA19252; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 11:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-out2.apple.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA19247; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 11:31:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [17.221.34.232] (A17-221-34-232.apple.com [17.221.34.232]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA30406 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 08:29:18 -0700 Message-Id: <199706181529.IAA30406@mail-out2.apple.com> Subject: Re: AFP 2.2 Rev8 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 97 08:31:25 -0700 x-sender: zarzycki@pop.ricochet.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Dave Zarzycki To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > There are actually two "unofficial" implementations of >AFP-over-TCP for netatalk. One is the "netatalk-2.0a6" distribution from >Adrian Sun of washington.edu and the other is my more modest >"afptcpd-0.1a3" distribution. The "netatalk-2.0a6" dist. is a major >revision of 1.4b2 that incorporates AFP 2.2 (including AFP-over-TCP) into >afpd. The "afptcpd" dist. is an add-on (separate daemon) to 1.4b2. Both >run under Linux 2.0.x/2.1.x and SunOS 4.1.x. ARGGGG Pager just went off. Okay, so where might I get them? ;-) I would like to do some comparative testing against AppleShare IP 5.0. This of course would be a spare time activity, but I would use the same test tools that AppleShare uses. Dave ------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Zarzycki Student Workgroup Server QA Tester San Jose State University Apple Computer, Inc. zarzycki@apple.com zarzycki@ricochet.net From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 18 14:07:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id OAA00694; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 14:07:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ripstick.engin.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA00690; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 14:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by ripstick.engin.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with X.500 id OAA19925 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 14:07:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by ripstick.engin.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with X.500 id OAA19923 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 14:07:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (wagnerer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ripstick.engin.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA19919 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 14:07:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 14:07:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric C Wagner X-Sender: wagnerer@ripstick.engin.umich.edu To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: AppleShare-FTP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Has the spec for the new FTP layer over appleshare been released? If so are there plans to include this in netatalk? This should significantly speed up file transfers. /*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\* Eric Wagner Phone : 313-647-5525 1962 Cooley Building Fax : 313-763-4540 University of Michigan E-Mail: wagnerer@umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48109 WWW : http://www.umich.edu/~wagnerer Quote of the day: Applying computer technology is simply finding the right wrench to pound in the correct screw. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 18 14:28:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id OAA01579; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 14:28:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA01575; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 14:28:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA29468; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 14:28:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA29460; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 14:28:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shell.wco.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA29414; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 14:28:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hiro.zanshin.com (root@gw.zanshin.com [199.4.94.83]) by shell.wco.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/WCO-2jun97) with ESMTP id LAA25562; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 11:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [206.155.48.2] (smartypants.zanshin.com [206.155.48.2]) by hiro.zanshin.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA31767; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 11:27:51 -0700 X-Sender: davidh@hiro.zanshin.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 11:28:01 -0700 To: Niklas =?iso-8859-1?Q?Wikstr=F6m?= From: David Hartmann Subject: Re: Speed problems on Linux Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 12:54 AM -0700 6/18/97, Niklas Wikstr=F6m wrote: >Hi, > >I am running netatalk on a Linux kernel version 2.0.18. I have tried both >the 1.3.3 as well as the 1.4 beta version of netatalk but I am having the >same problems. > >Problem: Copying files between the connected Macs and the Linux box is >extremely slow, about 5-10 k/sec wich I believe is way below expected. >Excluding the speed problem everything appears to work as it should. Has >anyone been experiencing similar problems. I have exactly the same problem. Here are some details about my setup: - running netatlk 1.3.3 on one linux 2.0.29 box and 1.4b2 on another. Copying files is equally slow to either. - of the three macs on our net, only one of them has slow access to netatalk and the other two work fine. All three are powermacs running System 7.6.1 and Open Transport 1.1.2 over built-in ethernet. - copying many very small files goes quickly, while even a single large file (say > 64K) gets bogged down terribly. - using Fetch 3.0.3 to transfer my test files via FTP, I get about 600,000 bytes/sec, or about 60 times faster than netatalk. - Installing and removing SpeedDoubler 2.0.3 has no effect on the problem. - The problem occurs with either AppleShare workstation version 3.6.4 or 3.6= =2E5. Any ideas? David From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 18 14:32:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id OAA01929; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 14:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA01911; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 14:32:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA01149; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 14:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA01145; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 14:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA01071; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 14:32:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21911; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 10:47:55 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA04124; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 11:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 11:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199706181823.LAA04124@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: wagnerer@umich.edu CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from Eric C Wagner on Wed, 18 Jun 1997 14:07:17 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: AppleShare-FTP Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Has the spec for the new FTP layer over appleshare been released? If so are there plans to include this in netatalk? This should significantly speed up file transfers. umm, ftp is ftp. apple's asip includes separate servers for afp/tcp, www, ftp, and a bunch of other stuff as well. it's really supposed to be pretty spiffy. if you're interested in the afp/tcp part for netatalk, wait for my next email announcement. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 18 15:01:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id PAA03980; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:01:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA03974; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:01:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA06948; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:01:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA06937; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:01:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pop.winterlan.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA06905; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:01:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706181901.PAA06905@judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:01:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keypress142.keypress.com ([206.29.167.142]) by pop.winterlan.com (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-10321) with SMTP id AAA248; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 12:01:24 -0700 From: Gavin Peters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, Kirk Swenson Subject: First entry in AppleVolumes.default X-Mailer: VM 6.30 under Emacs 19.34.1 X-Attribution: gavin Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm running netatalk 1.3.3 under Linux 2.0.30. About one day after I installed netatalk, the following problem showed up. Oddly, reboots don't seem to affect it. The first volume specified in /etc/AppleVolumes.default does not work properly when mounted from MacOS 7.5.5 machines. Any attempt to copy a file to the volume results in the contents being transferred, and a "file could not be found" error. This does not occur with any other volumes shared. For now, we're exporting a "zIgnore" share to deal with this. Has anyone else encountered this or any similar errors? -- ______________________________________________________________________ Gavin Peters http://se.math.uwaterloo.ca/~gwkpeter PGP encrypted & signed email preferred From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 18 15:12:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id PAA04682; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:12:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA04669; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA15323; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:12:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA15317; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:12:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from luxbbs.itserve.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA15258; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:12:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from davidhspc.atlanta.itserve.com ([155.229.86.45]) by luxbbs.itserve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA23087; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 15:14:00 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 03:13:14 -0400 (EDT) Organization: Imaging Technologies From: David Hamm To: David Hartmann Subject: Re: Speed problems on Linux Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, Niklas =?iso-8859-1?Q?Wikstr=F6m?= Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On 18-Jun-97 David Hartmann wrote: >At 12:54 AM -0700 6/18/97, Niklas Wikström wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I am running netatalk on a Linux kernel version 2.0.18. I have tried both >>the 1.3.3 as well as the 1.4 beta version of netatalk but I am having the >>same problems. >> >>Problem: Copying files between the connected Macs and the Linux box is >>extremely slow, about 5-10 k/sec wich I believe is way below expected. >>Excluding the speed problem everything appears to work as it should. Has >>anyone been experiencing similar problems. > >I have exactly the same problem. Here are some details about my setup: > >- running netatlk 1.3.3 on one linux 2.0.29 box and 1.4b2 on another. >Copying files is equally slow to either. > >- of the three macs on our net, only one of them has slow access to >netatalk and the other two work fine. All three are powermacs running >System 7.6.1 and Open Transport 1.1.2 over built-in ethernet. Take a look at your inits. I have a number of Macs here at work and usualy the problem lies within the inits. >- copying many very small files goes quickly, while even a single large >file (say > 64K) gets bogged down terribly. > >- using Fetch 3.0.3 to transfer my test files via FTP, I get about 600,000 >bytes/sec, or about 60 times faster than netatalk. FTP is a _much_ more efficient way to trasnfer data. I even heard that FTP is faster than nfs. >- Installing and removing SpeedDoubler 2.0.3 has no effect on the problem. > >- The problem occurs with either AppleShare workstation version 3.6.4 or >3.6.5. > >Any ideas? > >David ------ David Hamm - dhamm@itserve.com -------- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 18 20:48:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id UAA13689; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 20:48:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA13685; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 20:48:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA13837; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 20:48:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA13832; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 20:48:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from berlin.snafu.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id UAA13820; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 20:48:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by berlin.snafu.de (Smail3.2) from bigger.bringi.home (195.21.247.196) with smtp id ; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 02:48:40 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <33A881B4.3C73EE7F@berlin.snafu.de> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 02:47:48 +0200 From: Axel Bringenberg Organization: Satz-Rechen-Zentrum Berlin - Systemgruppe X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01GoldC-Caldera (X11; I; Linux 2.0.29 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: FDDI on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I am using netatalk on a Liux version 2.0.27 (RH 4.1). The linux box has 3Com adapter and is acting as fileserver via nfs, ncp, smb and appleshare. For a month I've got a FDDI-Board from the german company Compu-Shack with Linux driver - no source code, only a kernel module :-( After booting all stuff works fine, except netatalk. atalkd starts without problems (ifconfig shows me a correct and unique ethertalk address), but the server can't register. nbplkup shows only the half of client and the server isn't listed in the chooser. Any hints? Thanks in advance Axel. --- Axel Bringenberg Satz-Rechen-Zentrum Berlin - Systemgruppe A.Bringenberg@srz-berlin.de From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 18 22:43:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id WAA16432; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 22:43:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id WAA16422; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 22:43:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA05590; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 22:43:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA05586; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 22:43:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA05567; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 22:43:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA24599; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 18:58:24 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA05121; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 19:34:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 19:34:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199706190234.TAA05121@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: mfreeman@iglou.com, everette_allen@ncsu.edu, joakim.ahlen@mediaprint.se, greg@smithphoto.com, halset@pvv.ntnu.no, hannu@ddbn.ee, kateley@apple.com, jwa@jammed.com, mbbecker@mail.deforest.k12.wi.us, chandhok@within.com, netatalk@umich.edu, brasherj@zoology.washington.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: alpha AFP/TCP support in netatalk Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu i've placed my latest afp/tcp patches for netatalk-1.4b2 in . you can either get netatalk-2.0a7.tar.gz, or the patches up to it. i've compiled it on linux/intel w/ glibc-2 and on linux/axp as well. i've also compiled a previous snapshot under sunos 4.1.4. let me know if it works for you. NB: the 2.0a7 designation is my own and not the official maintainers. if and when my changes get incorporated into the official netatalk, numbers are bound to change. for those that already have the a6 patches, here's a brief list of changes: fixed asp_attentions and server messages afpd can run as a ddp-only or tcp-only server if desired. limits volume changed attentions to at most 1/second. for those that aren't familiar w/ my netatalk patches, here's a synopsis of what they do: afp 2.2 support includes afp/tcp w/ streaming reads/writes server messages and notifications server signatures large volume support (currently not used by the macintosh filesystem) 64-bit clean random fixes (socket setup, network-byte order blips, and other things i can't recall) my main test machine is somewhat flaky right now due to my running the latest, greatest linux development kernel. as a consequence, i haven't been able to do a good benchmark yet. w/ not-so-flaky kernels, i got between a 1.5-2x speedup. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 19 01:23:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id BAA29234; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 01:23:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id BAA29230; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 01:23:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA04939; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 01:23:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA04934; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 01:23:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from spsem02.sps.mot.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id BAA04925; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 01:23:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mogate.sps.mot.com by spsem02.sps.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Email 2.1 10/25/93) id AA06020 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Jun 97 22:23:43 MST Received: from papageno.sps.mot.com by mogate.sps.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Email-2.0) id AA21390 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Wed, 18 Jun 97 22:23:40 MST Received: from papageno.sps.mot.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by papageno.sps.mot.com (8.8.6/3.5Wpl5-970410) with ESMTP id OAA12895; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 14:23:38 +0900 (JST) X-Mh-Biff: Version: mh-biff.el version 0.96.1 on Emacs 19.34.94.2 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: gid(group id) is not honored when creating file. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 18 Jun 1997 19:34:07 -0700 (PDT)" References: <199706190234.TAA05121@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.94.2 / Mule 3.0 X-Popi-Level: General Business Information Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="--Next_Part(Thu_Jun_19_14:23:33_1997)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19970619142336W.fujiwara@papageno.sps.mot.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 14:23:36 +0900 From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRiM4NhsoQl9fGyRCQD8bKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?Lw==?= Makoto Fujiwara X-Dispatcher: impost version 0.99h (Apr. 2, 1997) Lines: 258 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ----Next_Part(Thu_Jun_19_14:23:33_1997)-- Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In the old days, I have submitted the bug information as attached. onto Web Page. Did anybody encountered such problem ? --- Makoto Fujiwara, in Japanese ->($BF#86(B) ----Next_Part(Thu_Jun_19_14:23:33_1997)-- Content-Type: Message/Rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-Path: fujiwara@papageno.sps.mot.com Delivery-Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 19:31:36 +0900 Return-Path: fujiwara@papageno.sps.mot.com Return-Path: fujiwara@papageno.sps.mot.com Received: from papageno.sps.mot.com (papageno [223.28.100.17]) by mdo.sps.mot.com (8.7.6/3.5Wbeta_mdo.server1.2-961001) with ESMTP id TAA01895 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 19:31:35 +0900 (JST) Received: from papageno.sps.mot.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by papageno.sps.mot.com (8.7.6/3.4W4-960319) with ESMTP id TAA17340; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 19:31:32 +0900 (JST) X-MH-BIFF: Version: mh-biff.el version 0.96.1 on Emacs 19.30.1, Mule 2.3 To: netatalk@umich.edu Subject: gid(group id) is not honored when creating file. X-Mailer: Mew version 1.54 on Emacs 19.30.1, Mule 2.3 X-POPI-Level: General Business Information X-PGP-fingerprint: 00 56 82 3D 17 A5 A5 15 F0 9D AC 82 7D B5 11 1D Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19961212193130I.fujiwara@papageno.sps.mot.com> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 19:31:30 +0900 From: Makoto Fujiwara/ =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRiM4NhsoQg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?ICAbJEJAPxsoQg==?= X-Dispatcher: impost version 0.94+ (Nov. 25, 1996) Lines: 220 Subject: gid(group id) is not honored when creating file. Short summary of the problem (please make this meaningful!) Environment: ----------- netatalk-1.4b2 SunOS 5.5.1 ( Solaris 2.5.1 ) no change on config file excetp missing #define MAXHOSTNAMELEN 32 definition Description: ----------- From: Makoto Fujiwara Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk Subject: [netatalk/CAP60] group of the file/folders Date: 10 Dec 1996 23:47:58 +0900 Organization: Packet Radio Users Group Lines: 50 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: komekome.bay.prug.or.jp Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.90) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: Red Gnus v0.52/Emacs 19.31 I have a question on the spec of AppleTalk File Server on Unix. When I say AppleTalk File Server, I mean netatalk-1.4b2 or CAP 60. (1) Macintosh file system has no attribute file by file. It only has folder(directory) attribute. (2) The access permission of the file is, therefore, decided by the attribute of the directory where the file is in. (3) There are following possibilities. (3-1) Say, my primary group id (gid) of logon ( = passwd file ) is PRIMARY. (3-2) I also belongs to the group SECONDARY by the definition of group file. (3-3) When I create the folder A, it belongs to PRIMARY of course. (3-4) I decided to create foler B in folder A, and change the group of folder B to SECONARY ( on Macintosh, FILE -> Sharing Menu ) Now I have following folder hierarchies. owner group ----------- -------- --------- Folder A fujiwara PRIMARY Folder B fujiwara SECONDARY My intention of changing Folder B to the SECONARY group is by giving write permission to the folder B and let SECONDARY group to write any folers/files in Folder B. (3-5) If I create some stuff in Folder B, what should group be for that file ? Or anybody who belongs to the SECONDARY can do that if the group/write is allowed. owner group ----------- -------- --------- Folder A fujiwara PRIMARY Folder B fujiwara SECONDARY file fujiwara group-in-question >From the users point of view, I believe, group-in-question should be SECONDARY. If above assumption is right, is AppleTalk File Server software implemented as to give the right group of file ? Repeat-By: The sequence of events that causes the problem to occur. Fix: --- Description of how to fix the problem. If you don't know a fix for the problem, don't include this section. diff -uar ../netatalk-1.4b2-ref/etc/afpd/file.c ./etc/afpd/file.c --- ../netatalk-1.4b2-ref/etc/afpd/file.c Sat Oct 19 05:33:04 1996 +++ ./etc/afpd/file.c Thu Dec 12 17:30:53 1996 @@ -263,7 +263,6 @@ return( AFPERR_PARAM ); } } - ad_setentrylen( &ad, ADEID_NAME, strlen( path )); bcopy( path, ad_entry( &ad, ADEID_NAME ), ad_getentrylen( &ad, ADEID_NAME )); @@ -280,6 +279,8 @@ ad_flush( &ad, ADFLAGS_DF|ADFLAGS_HF ); ad_close( &ad, ADFLAGS_DF|ADFLAGS_HF ); + ad_chown( mtoupath( path ), 0777 ); + ad_chown( ad_path( mtoupath( path ), ADFLAGS_HF ), 0777 ); setvoltime( vol ); return( AFP_OK ); } @@ -346,6 +347,7 @@ return( AFPERR_ACCESS ); } + ad_chown( mtoupath( path), 0777); if ( ad_getoflags( &ad, ADFLAGS_HF ) & O_CREAT ) { ad_setentrylen( &ad, ADEID_NAME, strlen( path )); bcopy( path, ad_entry( &ad, ADEID_NAME ), @@ -495,6 +497,10 @@ ad_flush( &ad, ADFLAGS_HF ); ad_close( &ad, ADFLAGS_HF ); + /* ad_chown( mtoupath( newname, 0777 )) ; /* */ + ad_chown ( dst, 0777 ); + ad_chown( ad_path (mtoupath(newname, 0777), ADFLAGS_HF), 0777 ) ; + return( AFP_OK ); } @@ -653,6 +659,8 @@ } } len = strlen( newname ); + ad_chown( mtoupath( dst, 0777 )) ; + ad_chown( ad_path (mtoupath(dst, 0777), ADFLAGS_HF), 0777 ) ; ad_setentrylen( &ad, ADEID_NAME, len ); bcopy( newname, ad_entry( &ad, ADEID_NAME ), len ); ad_flush( &ad, ADFLAGS_HF ); diff -uar ../netatalk-1.4b2-ref/etc/afpd/filedir.c ./etc/afpd/filedir.c --- ../netatalk-1.4b2-ref/etc/afpd/filedir.c Mon Sep 23 03:06:34 1996 +++ ./etc/afpd/filedir.c Thu Dec 12 15:32:13 1996 @@ -245,6 +245,7 @@ if ( ad_open( newpath, ADFLAGS_HF, O_RDWR|O_CREAT, 0666, &ad ) < 0 ) { return( AFPERR_PARAM ); } + /* ad_chown ( newpath, 0777 ); */ } else { if ( ad_open( newpath, ADFLAGS_HF|ADFLAGS_DIR, O_RDWR|O_CREAT, 0666, &ad ) < 0 ) { diff -uar ../netatalk-1.4b2-ref/include/netatalk/at.h ./include/netatalk/at.h --- ../netatalk-1.4b2-ref/include/netatalk/at.h Mon Sep 23 06:16:26 1996 +++ ./include/netatalk/at.h Thu Dec 12 14:44:39 1996 @@ -20,7 +20,7 @@ * +1-313-763-0525 * netatalk@itd.umich.edu */ - +#define MAXHOSTNAMELEN 32 #ifndef __AT_HEADER__ #define __AT_HEADER__ /* diff -uar ../netatalk-1.4b2-ref/libatalk/adouble/ad_open.c ./libatalk/adouble/ad_open.c --- ../netatalk-1.4b2-ref/libatalk/adouble/ad_open.c Wed Sep 25 00:26:52 1996 +++ ./libatalk/adouble/ad_open.c Thu Dec 12 17:47:39 1996 @@ -116,6 +116,45 @@ return( mode & stbuf.st_mode ); } +int +ad_chown( path, mode ) + char *path; + int mode; +{ + static char modebuf[ MAXPATHLEN ]; + struct stat stbuf; + char *slash; + + if ( mode == 0 ) { + return( mode ); /* save on syscalls */ + } + + if ( strlen( path ) >= MAXPATHLEN ) { + return( mode & DEFMASK ); /* can't do it */ + } + + /* + * For a path with directories in it, remove the final component + * (path or subdirectory name) to get the name we want to stat. + * For a path which is just a filename, use "." instead. + */ + strcpy( modebuf, path ); + if (( slash = rindex( modebuf, '/' )) != NULL ) { + *slash = '\0'; /* remove pathname component */ + } else { + modebuf[0] = '.'; /* use current directory */ + modebuf[1] = '\0'; + } + + if ( stat( modebuf, &stbuf ) != 0 ) { + return (0); + } + if ( chown( path, -1 , stbuf.st_gid ) ) { + printf("problem on chown path(%s), gid(%d)\n", path, stbuf.st_gid); + } + return 1 ; + /* return( mode & stbuf.st_mode ); */ +} /* * Use mkdir() with mode bits taken from ad_mode(). Makoto Fujiwara --- Thu Dec 12 19:25:43 1996 $B;T>l3+H/(B/CACTG$BK\It!&@_7W5;=QIt!&EEG>4IM}2](B $BF#86(B $B@?(B 621-8338 fujiwara@papageno.sps.mot.com ----Next_Part(Thu_Jun_19_14:23:33_1997)---- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 19 01:49:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id BAA00173; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 01:49:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id BAA00158; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 01:49:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA08179; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 01:49:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA08177; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 01:49:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id BAA08173; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 01:49:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fireball.ppl.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with SMTP id BAA20969; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 01:49:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from monolith.ppl.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp (monolith.ppl.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp [133.1.246.115]) by fireball.ppl.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp (8.6.9+2.4Wb3/3.3W) with SMTP id OAA25875; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 14:31:55 +0900 Date: 19 Jun 97 14:34:36 +0900 Subject: Re: Speed problems on Linux From: "ISOBE, Michiro" To: "David Hartmann" , netatalk-admins@umich.edu X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >>- of the three macs on our net, only one of them has slow access to >>netatalk and the other two work fine. All three are powermacs running >>System 7.6.1 and Open Transport 1.1.2 over built-in ethernet. I heard that some PCI Power Macintoshes suffered from slow network performance due to defect DIMMs. Please consult "Macintouch" Web site --------------------------------------------------------- Michiro ISOBE ($Bc&ItNQO:(J in Japanese) Electromagnetic Energy Engineering Course Graduate School of Engineering, Osaka University ($BBg:eBg3XBg3X1!9)3X8&5f2J!!EE;R>pJs%(%M%k%.!<9)3X@l96(J in Japanese) by Cyberdog Mail System --------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 19 01:51:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id BAA00295; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 01:51:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id BAA00289; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 01:50:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA08443; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 01:50:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA08441; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 01:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id BAA08437; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 01:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fireball.ppl.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with SMTP id BAA20960; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 01:47:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from monolith.ppl.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp (monolith.ppl.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp [133.1.246.115]) by fireball.ppl.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp (8.6.9+2.4Wb3/3.3W) with SMTP id OAA25881; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 14:32:30 +0900 Date: 19 Jun 97 14:35:12 +0900 Subject: Re: Speed problems on Linux From: "ISOBE, Michiro" To: "David Hartmann" , netatalk-admins@umich.edu X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >>- of the three macs on our net, only one of them has slow access to >>netatalk and the other two work fine. All three are powermacs running >>System 7.6.1 and Open Transport 1.1.2 over built-in ethernet. I heard that some PCI Power Macintoshes suffered from slow network performance due to defect DIMMs. Please consult "Macintouch" Web site --------------------------------------------------------- Michiro ISOBE ($Bc&ItNQO:(J in Japanese) Electromagnetic Energy Engineering Course Graduate School of Engineering, Osaka University ($BBg:eBg3XBg3X1!9)3X8&5f2J!!EE;R>pJs%(%M%k%.!<9)3X@l96(J in Japanese) by Cyberdog Mail System --------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 19 02:15:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id CAA01461; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 02:15:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id CAA01457; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 02:15:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA11527; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 02:15:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA11525; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 02:15:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shell.wco.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id CAA11521; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 02:15:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hiro.zanshin.com (root@gw.zanshin.com [199.4.94.83]) by shell.wco.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/WCO-2jun97) with ESMTP id XAA03219; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 23:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [206.155.48.2] (smartypants.zanshin.com [206.155.48.2]) by hiro.zanshin.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA21346; Wed, 18 Jun 1997 23:15:09 -0700 X-Sender: davidh@hiro.zanshin.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 23:15:20 -0700 To: "ISOBE, Michiro" From: David Hartmann Subject: Re: Speed problems on Linux Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 10:34 PM -0700 6/18/97, ISOBE, Michiro wrote: >>>- of the three macs on our net, only one of them has slow access to >>>netatalk and the other two work fine. All three are powermacs running >>>System 7.6.1 and Open Transport 1.1.2 over built-in ethernet. > >I heard that some PCI Power Macintoshes suffered from slow network >performance due to defect DIMMs. Please consult "Macintouch" Web site > Thanks for the tip, but it didn't help. The crux of the info on Macintouch is that defective DIMMs set up to interleave on PCI macs can cause serious ethernet performance hits. I switched my DIMMs around so they wouldn't interleave and it made no difference. This isn't surprising, since the slow netatalk performance only popped up last month after working well for six months with the same RAM setup. I guess I'll run through my extensions to see if that helps and report back. Thanks, David From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 19 05:58:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id FAA17174; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 05:58:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id FAA17170; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 05:58:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA01003; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 05:58:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA01001; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 05:58:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iprolink.co.nz by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id FAA00997; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 05:58:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [203.96.10.75] (ts3-10.iprolink.co.nz [203.96.10.75]) by iprolink.co.nz (/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA40674; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 21:58:20 +1200 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 21:59:18 +1200 To: David Hartmann , Niklas =?iso-8859-1?Q?Wikstr=F6m?= From: Richard Knuckey Subject: Re: Speed problems on Linux Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 11:28 am -0700 18/6/97, David Hartmann wrote: >At 12:54 AM -0700 6/18/97, Niklas Wikstr=F6m wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I am running netatalk on a Linux kernel version 2.0.18. I have tried both >>the 1.3.3 as well as the 1.4 beta version of netatalk but I am having the >>same problems. >> >>Problem: Copying files between the connected Macs and the Linux box is >>extremely slow, about 5-10 k/sec wich I believe is way below expected. >>Excluding the speed problem everything appears to work as it should. Has >>anyone been experiencing similar problems. > > >Any ideas? Are you using an external tranceiver? If so, check that it is plugged in corectly. I know this seems strange, but what can happen is that the connector gets pulled down by the weight of the transceiver and cuses it to not make a 100% connection on the top half of the connector. The symptons are very slow AppleTalk. To fix, simply make sure the connector has a level path to the socket. (ie have it so there is some pressure being put onto the connector by sitting the transeiver on the bench behind the computer so the connector is level.) This problem seems to be most prominent on 7200 design motherboards, go fig. All I knoe is that I have had this exact same problem on 3 PowerCurve/Center 120's and wiggling abnout the connector fixed it. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 19 10:44:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id KAA24555; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 10:44:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA24549; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 10:44:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA11068; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 10:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA11060; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 10:44:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chava.netmedia.net.il by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA11006; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 10:44:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leyada.jlm.k12.il ([192.115.119.3]) by chava.netmedia.net.il (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15014 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 17:44:48 +0200 (IST) Received: from MIN4100/MAIL_Q by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 19 Jun 97 17:42:40 +0200 Received: from MAIL_Q by MIN4100 (Mercury 1.21); 19 Jun 97 17:41:43 +0200 Received: from tycoon by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 19 Jun 97 17:41:37 +0200 Message-ID: <33A94536.41C67EA6@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 17:41:58 +0300 From: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" Reply-To: yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk Admins Mailing List Subject: Defining zones Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm using a SunOS 4.1.4 machine, with netatalk 1.4b2 (no afs), connected to a non-power macintosh with MacOS 7.1, file sharing works okay. When I try to define a zone in the atalkd.conf file, even when using the -seed option, atalkd removes the -zone. My atalkd.conf looks like this: le0 -seed -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -addr 65280.55 -zone "myzone" after restarting atalkd, it looks like this: le0 -seed -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -addr 65280.55 When I try to define a zone in my mac, I double-click on the Network Control panel, then on the ethertalk phase 2 icon, and get an error message: "You can not choose a zone at this time because no internet router is available". There must be a way to define a zone for these two machines to use, does someone know how to do it? Thanks in advance, Yannai. -- Yannai A. Gonczarowski System Administrator yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il The Hebrew University High School http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/~yannaigo/ "Do you want to know something? Everybody's human." "I find that remark insulting." - Kirk and Spock, "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered contry", stardate 9529.1 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 19 11:22:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id LAA25938; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 11:22:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA25932; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 11:22:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA24319; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 11:22:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA24317; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 11:22:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shell.wco.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA24308; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 11:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hiro.zanshin.com (root@gw.zanshin.com [199.4.94.83]) by shell.wco.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/WCO-2jun97) with ESMTP id IAA10628 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 08:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [206.155.48.2] (smartypants.zanshin.com [206.155.48.2]) by hiro.zanshin.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA23326 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 08:22:37 -0700 X-Sender: davidh@hiro.zanshin.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 08:22:47 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: David Hartmann Subject: Speed problems solved (sort of) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Greetings, Good news, sort of. The appleshare performance from my Mac to my linux netatalk servers is now back to normal speed (~300K/sec). Here's how I "fixed" it. I used Extensions Manager and chose the 7.6.1 base set, restarted, and appleshare started working well again. I then added extensions/control panels back in one at a time, restarted, and checked to see whether appleshare still worked well. Unfortunately, I was able to add *all* my extensions back in without causing performance to drop. So now my Mac is running the same set of extensions it did yesterday, only now it works. Why? Beats me. I'd be interested to hear if other folks are able to fix the problem by rebooting with minimal extensions once. thanks for all the help. David From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 19 14:06:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id OAA03208; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 14:06:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA03195; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 14:06:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA22564; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 14:06:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA22557; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 14:06:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA22510; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 14:06:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [138.232.125.19] (pc3-c608.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.19]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.3/8.7.3 (l 1)) with ESMTP id TAA21656; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 19:03:11 +0100 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 19:03:11 +0100 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <33A94536.41C67EA6@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il From: Gregor Retti Subject: Re: Defining zones Cc: Netatalk Admins Mailing List Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Hi, >I'm using a SunOS 4.1.4 machine, with netatalk 1.4b2 (no afs), connected >to a non-power macintosh with MacOS 7.1, file sharing works okay. >When I try to define a zone in the atalkd.conf file, even when using the >-seed option, atalkd removes the -zone. >My atalkd.conf looks like this: > >le0 -seed -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -addr 65280.55 -zone "myzone" > >after restarting atalkd, it looks like this: > >le0 -seed -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -addr 65280.55 > >When I try to define a zone in my mac, I double-click on the Network >Control panel, then on the ethertalk phase 2 icon, and get an error >message: "You can not choose a zone at this time because no internet >router is available". > >There must be a way to define a zone for these two machines to use, does >someone know how to do it? > as far as I know, you cant define a zone on one network interface only! I recently spent two days configuring two zones, because there was an additional mac-based router connecting a localtalk-network (printers) to the ethernet. this router was occasionally turn on and off and the other machines (netatalk on linux and macs) did not like that very much. so I put up a separete network-string with a second ethernet card in the linux box and finally got the thing to work stable. greetings gregor From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 19 15:46:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id PAA08480; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 15:46:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA08475; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 15:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA02973; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 15:46:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA02970; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 15:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA02931; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 15:45:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.186.176.125] (email.idl.fsu.edu [128.186.176.125]) by nu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA09056 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 15:45:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: andy@doc.unr.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 15:46:07 -0400 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Andrew Watson Subject: zone question Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >as far as I know, you cant define a zone on one network interface only! does this mean that i can't setup a zone in my apartment with just one ethernet card in my linux box? i figured that to have two zones i would need two linux boxes but i already have that. this is most distressing. andrew watson System Administrator Interactive Distance Learning Office Florida State University http://www.idl.fsu.edu or http://mac.fsu.edu http://www.gleep.org From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 19 18:41:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id SAA15661; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 18:41:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA15655; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 18:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA18816; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 18:41:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA18814; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 18:41:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA18806; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 18:41:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id PAA35975; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 15:41:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 15:41:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: Andrew Watson cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: zone question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 19 Jun 1997, Andrew Watson wrote: > >as far as I know, you cant define a zone on one network interface only! > > does this mean that i can't setup a zone in my apartment with just one > ethernet card in my linux box? i figured that to have two zones i would > need two linux boxes but i already have that. this is most distressing. Actually, you can't be a seed router under Netatalk with only one interface. I guess the logic's that you can't "route" if you only have one interface. :-) But everything'll still work, you just won't have zone names. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 19 20:14:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id UAA19373; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 20:14:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA19368; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 20:14:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA14068; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 20:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA14066; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 20:14:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from spsem02.sps.mot.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id UAA14056; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 20:14:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mogate.sps.mot.com by spsem02.sps.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Email 2.1 10/25/93) id AA05065 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 19 Jun 97 17:13:59 MST Received: from papageno.sps.mot.com by mogate.sps.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Email-2.0) id AA21875 for skippy@macro.stanford.edu; Thu, 19 Jun 97 17:06:35 MST Received: from papageno.sps.mot.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by papageno.sps.mot.com (8.8.6/3.5Wpl5-970410) with ESMTP id JAA08453; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:06:33 +0900 (JST) X-Mh-Biff: Version: mh-biff.el version 0.96.1 on Emacs 19.34.94.2 To: skippy@macro.stanford.edu Cc: andy@hillman.org, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: zone question In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 19 Jun 1997 15:41:39 -0700 (PDT)" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.94.2 / Mule 3.0 X-Popi-Level: General Business Information X-Pgp-Fingerprint: 82 AD 5D F4 1E DC 00 BF 11 90 35 83 ED 85 6F D6 X-Pgp-Fingerprint-Note: has been changed as of 970619 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19970620090631X.fujiwara@papageno.sps.mot.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:06:31 +0900 From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRiM4NhsoQl9fGyRCQD8bKEI=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?Lw==?= Makoto Fujiwara X-Dispatcher: impost version 0.99h (Apr. 2, 1997) Lines: 21 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu skippy> Actually, you can't be a seed router under Netatalk with only one skippy> interface. I guess the logic's that you can't "route" if you only have one skippy> interface. :-) skippy> skippy> But everything'll still work, you just won't have zone names. I do have the same situation with several Mac and one Netatalk 1.4b2 with SunOS 4.1.4 ( with only one Ethernet Interface :-). Even I have Ethernet -> localtalk Printer interface connected. I do not have the zone. But everything is OK except it looks strange to those who are familiar with Chooser window(dialog) splitted and lower window shows zone names. I believe it is supposed to be that and I am very happy on that. "Yannai, do you have any practical problems ?" Makoto Fujiwara. --- ($BF#86(B) From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 19 21:14:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id VAA21011; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 21:14:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id VAA21004; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 21:14:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA25721; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 21:14:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA25719; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 21:14:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.monsterboard.com.au by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA25708; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 21:14:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from paulw@localhost) by www.monsterboard.com.au (8.8.2/8.8.2) id LAA02692; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:14:37 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:14:36 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Wilkins To: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" cc: Netatalk Admins Mailing List Subject: Re: Defining zones In-Reply-To: <33A94536.41C67EA6@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 19 Jun 1997, Yannai A. Gonczarowski wrote: > Hi, > I'm using a SunOS 4.1.4 machine, with netatalk 1.4b2 (no afs), connected > to a non-power macintosh with MacOS 7.1, file sharing works okay. > When I try to define a zone in the atalkd.conf file, even when using the > -seed option, atalkd removes the -zone. > My atalkd.conf looks like this: > > le0 -seed -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -addr 65280.55 -zone "myzone" ^^^^^^^ _Do_ _not_ _do_ _this_ This will make your ZIP messages HUGE. You only need 1 cable range, not 65k. All those messages have to be processed by each mac host which is wasted load. The reason netatalk is rewriting your atalkd.conf, is that you already have a router seeding the network. Netatalk will rewrite this file to agree with what it finds already seeded. If you want to change your zone information, you need to change it on ALL routers. Paul TTT M M M PPP T MMMMM PPPP T M M M P Disclaimer: The views herein expressed do not necessarily reflect those of TMP Worldwide or its affiliated companies. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 19 21:45:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id VAA21907; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 21:45:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id VAA21901; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 21:45:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA23061; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 21:45:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA23051; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 21:45:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.halcyon.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA23047; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 21:45:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from blv-pm115-ip18.halcyon.com (blv-pm110-ip30.halcyon.com [206.63.33.90]) by mail1.halcyon.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA04703 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 18:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by blv-pm115-ip18.halcyon.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BC7CE1.2ACD1360@blv-pm115-ip18.halcyon.com>; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 18:46:58 -0700 Message-ID: <01BC7CE1.2ACD1360@blv-pm115-ip18.halcyon.com> From: Monty Joe Jackson To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: REMOVE Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 18:46:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu REMOVE remove montyjoe@halcyon.com { If a human gets this, please drop me from netatalk list, or drop me a line with instructions. } Monty J. Jackson JSE From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 19 23:41:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id XAA23840; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 23:41:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id XAA23836; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 23:41:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA21790; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 23:41:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA21788; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 23:41:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brave.dcrt.nih.gov by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id XAA21779; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 23:41:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from snpc.od.nih.gov.nih.gov by brave.dcrt.nih.gov (5.x/Box-1.0) id AA10175; Thu, 19 Jun 1997 23:41:21 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970620044234.120f053c@POserver-n.nih.gov> X-Sender: nevet@POserver-n.nih.gov X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 00:42:34 -0400 To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" From: Shalom Nevet Subject: REMOVE Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu REMOVE remove montyjoe@halcyon.com { If a human gets this, please drop me from netatalk list, or drop me a line with instructions. } \\ // \ o o / { ' } o00o \ ~ / o00o *********************************************************************** Shalom Nevet NIH nevet@alw.nih.gov 9000 Rockville Pike Phone: 301-402-3209 13/3W13 Fax: 301-480-9774 Bethesda, MD 20892 *********************************************************************** From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 04:33:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id EAA09315; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 04:33:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA09155; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 04:33:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA14347; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 04:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA14345; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 04:33:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from octarine.cc.adfa.oz.au by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA14341; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 04:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from apw@localhost) by octarine.cc.adfa.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA21033 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 18:33:08 +1000 (EST) From: Tony Watson Message-Id: <199706200833.SAA21033@octarine.cc.adfa.oz.au> Subject: Does Netatalk allow printer accounting and licence managing ? To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 18:33:07 +1000 (EST) Reply-To: apw@ee.adfa.oz.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm sorry to repeat this posting, but I've only had one reply. (That could be because I managed to wreck my sendmail later in the day (after the original post -- sorry about any bounces). ) I'm getting rather desperate to know the answer to this, because I don't want to have to become an expert on netatalk and CAPS just to find the answer. Surely someone must know ... I've inherited a site that runs a little bit of netatalk and a little bit of CAPS and I'd like to "iron out" the system, by reinstalling one or the other. Two of my requirements are: - to be able to do per-user printer accounting, - to be able to do licence metering (on applications), (CAPS appears to be able to do this. That is, to have applications installed on the server, but limited in usage by netatalk according to how many licences I tell it we have for each application.) I've had a look in the FAQ, etc and I can't see the answers there. Could someone let me know if netatalk can do this, so that I know which way to go (I'd prefer to go with netatalk if possible -- it appears to be superior in many other ways). -- Thanks in advance, Tony Watson e-mail: t-watson@ee.adfa.oz.au IT Manager Dept of Electrical Engineering ADFA Canberra Australia From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 05:47:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id FAA19900; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 05:47:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id FAA19896; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 05:47:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA19043; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 05:47:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA19040; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 05:47:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id FAA19036; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 05:47:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ferroday.demon.co.uk ([158.152.18.164]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa0500789; 20 Jun 97 10:03 BST X-Sender: ferroday@pop3.demon.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:02:02 +0000 To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" From: Norman Swindells Subject: Remove Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu REMOVE remove rjs@ferroday.demon.co.uk Norman Swindells - Ferroday Ltd. STEP Technology for materials 14 Mere Farm road UK-Birkenhead L43 9TT ns@ferroday.demon.co.uk tel/fax: +44 151 670 0651 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 09:53:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id JAA22616; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:53:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA22612; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:53:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA20471; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:53:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA20330; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:52:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from denver.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA20177; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:51:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [206.168.144.209] (slip78.denver.net [206.168.144.209]) by denver.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA10858 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 07:54:17 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 08:07:15 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Eric Drumbor Subject: Remove Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu REMOVE [I apologize if this spams the mailing list.] From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 10:37:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id KAA24469; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA24428; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:37:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA03158; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:37:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA03009; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bbmail1.unisys.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA02878; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:35:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bblnmta.unisys.com (bblnmta.bb.unisys.com [192.63.78.253]) by bbmail1.unisys.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA26468 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 14:35:22 GMT Received: by bblnmta.unisys.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 852564BC.00507BCA ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:39:05 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: UNISYS From: "Robert Augustyn" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Message-ID: <852564BC.00500051.00@bblnmta.unisys.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:34:30 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu REMOVE From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 10:46:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id KAA24984; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:46:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA24974; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:45:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA19565; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:45:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA19388; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:44:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay1.fnet.fr by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id KAA18968; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:43:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vanhalen.UUCP by relay1.fnet.fr (5.65c8d/96.05.03) via EUnet-France id AA09222; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 16:43:31 +0200 (MET) Received: from santana.axlog.fr by (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04029; Fri, 20 Jun 97 15:15:00 +0100 Received: by santana.axlog.fr (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA01966; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 15:15:07 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 15:15:07 +0100 From: chris@vanhalen.axlog.fr (Christophe Cognault) Message-Id: <199706201415.PAA01966@santana.axlog.fr> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: REMOVE Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu REMOVE remove chris@axlog.fr From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 10:58:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id KAA25899; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:58:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA25891; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:58:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA09835; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:58:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA09639; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:57:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smithsonite.rice.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA09137; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mhardy@localhost) by smithsonite.rice.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA22410 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:47:01 -0500 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:47:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Hardy Reply-To: mhardy@ctp.com cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: REMOVE In-Reply-To: <199706201415.PAA01966@santana.axlog.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu If I'm not mistaken, this list is run by Majordomo. If this is the case, then all remove requests should probably be sent to netatalk-admins-request@foo.com or some such. Some official word from the administrator of the list might be nice, as I don't mind wading through netatalk talk, but 6 remove requests in one day is ridiculous. :-/ --mike From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 11:15:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id LAA26890; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:15:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA26838; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:14:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA15830; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:14:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA15593; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:13:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stumpy.ncsa.uiuc.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA15350; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (dannyman@localhost) by stumpy.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA17083 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:12:54 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:12:54 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dannyman @ Dannyland" Reply-To: djhoward@uiuc.edu To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Sharing *from* a Mac *to* Unix Message-ID: X-NCSA-UID: djhoward X-NCSA-Group: NetDev (C&C) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi. Uhmmm. Sometimes the world is backwards. It may be possible that at some future date I may become involved in another web project. For some bizarre reason though they run it off a Macintosh. Ironically enough, I own naught but Unix boxen. I have netatalk installed on this one ... is it possible to mount an AppleShare drive onto my machine? Say just have a /mac_html directory somewheres or such? How would I go about doing that? Has this ever been done before? TIA! //Dan -=- This message brought to you by djhoward@uiuc.edu -=- \\/yori -=- HOME PAGE! http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ -=- The Choice for Me: SPAM FREE! From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 11:19:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id LAA27334; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:19:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA27325; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA02190; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:19:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA02016; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:18:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zao.or.jp by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA01759; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:17:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 202.212.141.52 (202.212.141.37) by mail.zao.or.jp with SMTP (MailShare 1.0fc6); Sat, 21 Jun 1997 00:14:40 +0900 Message-ID: <33AB1DBA.1503@zao.or.jp> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 00:18:23 +0000 From: kazunori miura Reply-To: kazu@zao.or.jp Organization: zao-net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: netatalk on mklinux References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello! This may be off topic. I want to running netatalk on MkLinux. So installing netatalk1.3 and trying to connect Mklinux Box. There is MkLinux server on selector of PB160. But That's empty. There is no volumes in it. Why? I configured atalk.conf and other files. I am running 1.4b on RedHat4.1. It's very good working. Please advice me. _________________________________ kazunori miura zao-net system manager yamagata city yamagata prefecture kazu@zao.or.jp _________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 11:23:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id LAA27686; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:23:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id LAA27677; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:23:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id LAA27668; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:23:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA27659; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:23:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706201523.LAA27659@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:23:37 -0400 (EDT) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: netatalk@umich.edu Subject: Welcome to netatalk-admins (sort of...) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Reply To: netatalk-admins-request@umich.edu Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:23:36 -0400 Sender: epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sorry this is so late, and so many requests have gotten out to everyone! The netatalk-admins@umich.edu list has switched from a moderated list to an unmoderated, automated list. This has already realized a major increase in traffic. The netatalk-admins-request@umich.edu address will still process your list requests. This is now all under the control of majordomo. A second list is being instigated titled netatalk-release. This list will be moderated by netatalk@umich.edu, and will consist of patches, alpha/beta releases, and full version release announcements. It will also be maintained with majordomo. An announcement will be made soon, as to its availability. Please do not send your requests yet. The list will be called: netatalk-release@umich.edu. The lowdown: send the word 'subscribe' or 'unsubscribe in the body of your message to either 'netatalk-admins-request@umich.edu' or 'netatalk-release-request@umich.edu' as is your wont. Thanks for everyone's attention and patience, EV AN netatalk@umich.edu ps. The following is the message that you receive when you subscribe to netatalk-admins. ----forw'd mesg---- Welcome to the netatalk-admins mailing list! Please save this message for future reference. Thank you. If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe or from another account, besides epcordes: unsubscribe epcordes If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: netatalk - the AppleTalk Protocol Suite for Unix Overview netatalk is an implementation of the AppleTalk Protocol Suite for Unix systems. The current release contains support for EtherTalk Phase I and II, DDP, RTMP, NBP, ZIP, AEP, ATP, PAP, ASP, and AFP. To subscribe to this list: send mail to: netatalk-admins-request@umich.edu with the word 'subscribe' in the body of your message. netatalk web page: http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk obtaining netatalk: ftp://terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu/unix/netatalk/ netatalk support: netatalk@umich.edu ----fwd'd mesg---- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 11:26:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id LAA28122; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:26:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA28072; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:25:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA19856; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:25:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA19610; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:25:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imagine.sdsu.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA19388; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:24:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from civac.sdsu.edu (heizer@civac.sdsu.edu [130.191.250.4]) by imagine.sdsu.edu (8.8.5/SCEC-S-042495) with ESMTP id IAA10669 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 08:24:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "Lisa A. Heizer" Received: (heizer@localhost) by civac.sdsu.edu (8.8.5/SCEC-FORWARD-082195) id IAA20112 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 08:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 08:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199706201524.IAA20112@civac.sdsu.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: How to remove subscription Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This list is moderated. To join or resign the list, send mail to netatalk-admins-request@umich.edu. DO NOT send mail to netatalk-admins@umich.edu to resign the list! ( Please see http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk/index.html#lists for more information.) --lisa +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Lisa A. Heizer lisa.heizer@sdsu.edu Department of Geological Sciences MC-1020 San Diego State University, San Diego, CA 92182-1020 USA voice: 619.594.5673 fax: 619.594.4372 www.geology.sdsu.edu/heizer/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 11:26:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id LAA28167; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:26:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA28070; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:25:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA19853; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:25:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA19608; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:25:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.krammer.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA19332; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:24:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.0.38] (kpigate.kpi.de [195.214.73.1]) by mail.krammer.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA06943 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 16:20:42 GMT Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 16:20:42 GMT X-Sender: roelle@mail.roelle.i3w.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Harald Roelle Subject: Re: Sharing *from* a Mac *to* Unix Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >I have netatalk installed on this one ... is it possible to mount an >AppleShare drive onto my machine? Say just have a /mac_html directory >somewheres or such? How would I go about doing that? Has this ever been >done before? Ben Hekster started to work on file system driver for AppleShare, at least for Linux. Have a look at -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harald Roelle harald@roelle.i3w.com From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 11:34:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id LAA29547; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA29523; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:34:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA22788; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:33:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA22588; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:33:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from punt-1.mail.demon.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id LAA22406; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:32:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ikoda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.69.110]) by punt-1.mail.demon.net id aa1108254; 20 Jun 97 15:52 BST Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 15:51:05 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Chris MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.01 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu REMOVE -- Chris From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 11:39:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id LAA00587; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:39:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA00556; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:39:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA24663; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:39:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA24468; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:38:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from schooner.multi-ad.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA24259; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:37:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgw.multi-ad.com ([207.56.32.25]) by schooner.multi-ad.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA4541 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:38:37 -0500 Date: 20 Jun 97 10:34:54 -0500 From: Bob Fahey Subject: FWD>Re- Sharing *from* a Ma To: Netatalk Message-ID: <970620.103454@multi-ad.com> X-Mailer: QM-Internet Gateway 1.0.1 X-Priority: 4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu FWD>Re: Sharing *from* a Mac *to* Unix 6/20/97 4:= 20 PM I have seen the Appletalk client for Linux -- Does anyone know if there = are plans for a Solaris version? -bob fahey -------------------------------------- Date: 6/20/97 10:29 AM From: Harald Roelle >I have netatalk installed on this one ... is it possible to mount an >AppleShare drive onto my machine? Say just have a /mac_html directory >somewheres or such? How would I go about doing that? Has this ever been >done before? Ben Hekster started to work on file system driver for AppleShare, at least for Linux. Have a look at ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Harald Roelle harald@roelle.= i3w.com -------- RFC-822 Header: RECEIVED: from JUNK.MULTI-AD.COM by smtpgw.multi-ad.com ; 20 JUN 97 10:29:= 31 UT Received: from schooner.multi-ad.com (schooner.multi-ad.com [207.56.32.18])= by junk.multi-ad.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA21663 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:30:06 -0500 Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ([141.211.164.2]) by schooner.multi-ad.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA4513 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:29:03 -0500 Received: from localhost by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with SMTP id LAA28309; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:27:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (bulk_mailer v1.5+); Fri, 20 Jun = 1997 11:26:27 -0400 Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id LAA28167; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:26:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.= 8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA28070; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:25:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA19853; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:25:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA19608; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:25:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.krammer.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA19332; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:24:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.0.38] (kpigate.kpi.de [195.214.73.1]) by mail.= krammer.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA06943 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 16:20:42 GMT Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 16:20:42 GMT X-Sender: roelle@mail.roelle.i3w.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: = Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Harald Roelle Subject: Re: Sharing *from* a Mac *to* Unix Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 11:41:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id LAA00955; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:41:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA00921; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:41:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA10210; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA09985; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:40:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ll.mit.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id LAA09794; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ll.mit.edu (4.1/LL-1.3) id AA10595; Fri, 20 Jun 97 11:41:42 EDT X-Sender: davidson@laser Message-Id: <9706201132.AA07692@LL.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 20 Jun 97 11:32:19 -0400 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: davidson@ll.mit.edu (Steve Davidson) Subject: Re: zone question Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > >as far as I know, you cant define a zone on one network interface only! > > does this mean that i can't setup a zone in my apartment with just one > ethernet card in my linux box? i figured that to have two zones i would > need two linux boxes but i already have that. this is most distressing. I no longer have a copy of the "AppleTalk Network System Overview" or I would provide you with a direct quote. I will, however, paraphrase: An AppleTalk zone is a logical grouping of AppleTalk networks in an inter-network configuration. An AppleTalk network maps into a segment or wire. An inter-network is two or more AppleTalk networks (combinations of EtherTalk, LocalTalk, and/or TokenTalk) that interact through an AppleTalk router. One wire? Zones are irrelevant. Two wires? If they are connected via a routing device, then Zones _*can*_ be defined (but why?). Since netatalk does not _*route*_ AppleTalk (unless Wes has performed some magic without telling us), two interfaces on two different nets does not an AppleTalk inter-network make. Even so, the reason to define zones is to simplify the grouping of network resources for the user (as they appear in the Chooser) -- and to reduce broadcast traffic -- on a large diverse inter-networked LAN. Other than for the purpose of experimentation, can there be any reason for subdividing an apartment LAN into zones? =============================================================== Dr. Steven A. Davidson davidson@ll.mit.edu MIT Lincoln Laboratory 244 Wood Street (617) 981-3901 - Office Lexington, MA 02173-9108 (617) 981-6339 - Fax =============================================================== Comments expressed in this message are strictly my own and are not to be construed as statements endorsed by my employer =============================================================== From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 11:57:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id LAA02802; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:57:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA02793; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA00636; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:57:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA00430; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:56:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stumpy.ncsa.uiuc.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA00105; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:55:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (dannyman@localhost) by stumpy.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA17270; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:55:20 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:55:20 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dannyman @ Dannyland" Reply-To: djhoward@uiuc.edu To: Bob Fahey cc: Netatalk Subject: Re: FWD>Re- Sharing *from* a Ma In-Reply-To: <970620.103454@multi-ad.com> Message-ID: X-NCSA-UID: djhoward X-NCSA-Group: NetDev (C&C) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On 20 Jun 1997, Bob Fahey wrote: > I have seen the Appletalk client for Linux -- Does anyone know if there are > plans for a Solaris version? ... or a FreeBSd version? I'd think not. The page cited features a linux kernel module. I can run linux binaries but couldn't even get this linux kernel module thingy to compile. :) //Dan -=- This message brought to you by djhoward@uiuc.edu -=- \\/yori -=- HOME PAGE! http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ -=- The Choice for Me: SPAM FREE! From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 11:59:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id LAA02940; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:59:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA02922; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:58:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA01084; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:58:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA00877; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:57:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.clever.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA00705; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:57:16 -0400 (EDT) From: rychosis@www.clever.net Received: from localhost (rychosis@localhost) by www.clever.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA10059 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:57:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:57:10 -0400 (EDT) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: REMOVE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu REMOVE remove rychosis@clever.net From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 12:15:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id MAA04520; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:15:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA04471; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:15:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA22040; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:14:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA21798; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:14:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alycia.dementia.org by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA21417; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:12:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from johnstown.andrew.cmu.edu (JOHNSTOWN.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.35.156]) by alycia.dementia.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA03382; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:12:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:12:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Derrick J Brashear Reply-To: Derrick J Brashear Subject: Re: Sharing *from* a Mac *to* Unix To: djhoward@uiuc.edu cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu http://prozac.cwru.edu/jude/macnfs/Macnfsd.html has an nfsd for Macs to allow you to share files from Mac to Unix. -D From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 12:20:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id MAA05085; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:20:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA05038; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:20:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA23836; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:20:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA23647; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:19:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA23327; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:18:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.186.176.125] (email.idl.fsu.edu [128.186.176.125]) by nu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00750; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:18:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: andy@doc.unr.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:18:33 -0400 To: djhoward@uiuc.edu From: Andrew Watson Subject: Re: Sharing *from* a Mac *to* Unix Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu try Xinet software. they have a lot of cool stuff that let's you do that. andrew watson System Administrator and Official Mascot Interactive Distance Learning Office Florida State University http://www.idl.fsu.edu and http://mac.idl.fsu.edu http://www.gleep.org From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 12:23:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id MAA05534; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:23:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA05501; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:23:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA09522; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA09337; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:22:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA09114; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.186.176.125] (email.idl.fsu.edu [128.186.176.125]) by nu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00815; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:21:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: andy@doc.unr.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9706201132.AA07692@LL.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:21:02 -0400 To: davidson@ll.mit.edu (Steve Davidson) From: Andrew Watson Subject: Re: zone question Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu i just thought it would be fun to do. i like to experiment with stuff. i'm working on setting up multiple domains in my samba config even though we only have two windows machines in the whole apartment. andrew watson System Administrator and Official Mascot Interactive Distance Learning Office Florida State University http://www.idl.fsu.edu and http://mac.idl.fsu.edu http://www.gleep.org From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 12:31:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id MAA06480; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA06453; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:31:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA27229; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:31:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA27077; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:30:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ebv.oncology.wisc.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA26905; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:29:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (aiyar@localhost) by ebv.oncology.wisc.edu with SMTP id LAA08481 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:28:08 -0500 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:28:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Ashok Aiyar To: Netatalk Subject: Re: FWD>Re- Sharing *from* a Ma In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Dannyman @ Dannyland wrote: > On 20 Jun 1997, Bob Fahey wrote: > > > I have seen the Appletalk client for Linux -- Does anyone know if there are > > plans for a Solaris version? > > ... or a FreeBSd version? I'd think not. The page cited features > a linux kernel module. I can run linux binaries but couldn't even get this > linux kernel module thingy to compile. :) And as far as I can tell, while the kernel module compiles under Linux, "afpmount" doesn't work under Linux. later, Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. McArdle Laboratory for Cancer Research aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 13:19:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id NAA09091; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA09086; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:19:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA25199; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:14:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA25024; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:13:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.airmail.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id NAA24804; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:12:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [206.66.11.6] from [206.66.11.6] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.181) with smtp for id ; Fri, 20 Jun 97 12:12:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Subject: disabling CRLF translation Date: Fri, 20 Jun 97 12:12:28 -0500 x-sender: dvt@mailhost.onramp.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: David Tilley To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is it possible to completely disable CRLF (and any other) translations for *all* file types, including TEXT? Perhaps even a way to permanently turn this off at compile time? Thanks, David Tilley dvt@myriad.net From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 13:32:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id NAA09744; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:32:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA09738; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:32:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA15703; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:27:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA15514; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:26:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pop.winterlan.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA15269; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:25:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706201725.NAA15269@judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:25:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keypress142.keypress.com ([206.29.167.142]) by pop.winterlan.com (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-10321) with SMTP id AAA220; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:25:50 -0700 From: Gavin Peters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: David Tilley Cc: Subject: disabling CRLF translation In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.30 under Emacs 19.34.1 X-Attribution: gavin Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >>>>> "David" == David Tilley writes: David> Is it possible to completely disable CRLF (and any other) David> translations for *all* file types, including TEXT? Perhaps even David> a way to permanently turn this off at compile time? Yup. Look in the makefile for afpd. -- ______________________________________________________________________ Gavin Peters http://se.math.uwaterloo.ca/~gwkpeter PGP encrypted & signed email preferred From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 13:54:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id NAA10733; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:54:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA10728; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:54:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA05859; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:48:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA05670; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pop.winterlan.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA05339; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:47:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706201747.NAA05339@redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:47:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keypress142.keypress.com ([206.29.167.142]) by pop.winterlan.com (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-10321) with SMTP id AAA277; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 10:46:49 -0700 From: Gavin Peters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: David Tilley Cc: Subject: disabling CRLF translation In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.30 under Emacs 19.34.1 X-Attribution: gavin Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >>>>> "David" == David Tilley writes: David> Is it possible to completely disable CRLF (and any other) David> translations for *all* file types, including TEXT? Perhaps even David> a way to permanently turn this off at compile time? Oh, and another note on this. I was quite upset when I discovered that this was set in the Makefile for afpd, and that it wasn't a command line option to same. Has this been fixed in 1.4b2 at all? The makefile is just the wrong place to configure this sort of thing. -- ______________________________________________________________________ Gavin Peters http://se.math.uwaterloo.ca/~gwkpeter PGP encrypted & signed email preferred From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 14:46:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id OAA12952; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 14:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA12938; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 14:46:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA23725; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 14:41:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA23536; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 14:40:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MyShadow.dtor.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA23307; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 14:39:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MyShadow.dtor.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by MyShadow.dtor.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01922; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 14:21:47 -0400 Message-Id: <199706201821.OAA01922@MyShadow.dtor.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 05/05/96 To: David Tilley Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: disabling CRLF translation In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:12:28 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Hal Wine Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 14:21:47 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu You wrote: >Is it possible to completely disable CRLF (and any other) translations >for *all* file types, including TEXT? Perhaps even a way to permanently >turn this off at compile time? >From a message in the list archive : From: wes.craig@umich.edu Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu fcc: sent-mail Subject: Re: How to turn off carriage/return line feeds? Date: Sat, 05 Dec 92 14:37:37 -0500 > However, I cannot find how one enables/disables carriage return/line > feed translation. ???? In etc/afpd/conf.h, undefine CRLF, make clean afpd, and rebuild it. You'll probably need to set DESTDIR on the command line of the make, since it's not set in subdirectory makefiles, and I'm guessing you didn't install afpd in /etc. Some of the other machines wouldn't have to do the make clean, but the AIX compiler doesn't support the mechanism we're using to do make depend, so the dependencies are sure to be incomplete. wes -- Hal Wine DTOR Consulting From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 15:33:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id PAA15216; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 15:33:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA15199; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 15:33:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA08942; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 15:28:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA08718; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 15:27:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA08502; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 15:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id MAA35813; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:26:20 -0700 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 12:26:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: Steve Davidson cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: zone question In-Reply-To: <9706201132.AA07692@LL.MIT.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Steve Davidson wrote: > > does this mean that i can't setup a zone in my apartment with just one > > ethernet card in my linux box? i figured that to have two zones i would > > need two linux boxes but i already have that. this is most distressing. > > I no longer have a copy of the "AppleTalk Network System Overview" or I > would provide you with a direct quote. I will, however, paraphrase: > > An AppleTalk zone is a logical grouping of AppleTalk > networks in an inter-network configuration. An AppleTalk > network maps into a segment or wire. An inter-network is > two or more AppleTalk networks (combinations of EtherTalk, > LocalTalk, and/or TokenTalk) that interact through an > AppleTalk router. > > One wire? Zones are irrelevant. Two wires? If they are connected via a > routing device, then Zones _*can*_ be defined (but why?). Since netatalk > does not _*route*_ AppleTalk (unless Wes has performed some magic without > telling us), two interfaces on two different nets does not an AppleTalk > inter-network make. > > Even so, the reason to define zones is to simplify the grouping of network > resources for the user (as they appear in the Chooser) -- and to reduce > broadcast traffic -- on a large diverse inter-networked LAN. Other than > for the purpose of experimentation, can there be any reason for subdividing > an apartment LAN into zones? For just an appartment, it is kinda silly. But say you have a company with a number of macs in different logical groups. Or on different floors. There, even though you might only have one wire, having multiple zones can make sense. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 16:26:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id QAA18828; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 16:26:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id QAA18552; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 16:24:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id QAA18522; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 16:24:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA18474; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 16:24:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706202024.QAA18474@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Hal Wine cc: David Tilley , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: disabling CRLF translation In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 20 Jun 1997 14:21:47 EDT." <199706201821.OAA01922@MyShadow.dtor.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 16:24:02 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Hal Wine > To: David Tilley > From: wes.craig@umich.edu > Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > fcc: sent-mail > Subject: Re: How to turn off carriage/return line feeds? > Date: Sat, 05 Dec 92 14:37:37 -0500 > > In etc/afpd/conf.h, undefine CRLF, make clean afpd, and rebuild it. Ah, this is not right. It was right, in 1992, when I sent the message. Currently, to completely disable all CRLF translation, you should remove -DCRLF from afpd's Makefile. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 16:28:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id QAA19122; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 16:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA19093; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 16:28:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA26483; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 16:23:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA26321; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 16:22:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MyShadow.dtor.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA06724; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 08:51:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MyShadow.dtor.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by MyShadow.dtor.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01367; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 08:01:13 -0400 Message-Id: <199706201201.IAA01367@MyShadow.dtor.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 05/05/96 To: Andrew Watson cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: zone question In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 19 Jun 1997 15:46:07 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 08:01:13 -0400 From: Hal Wine Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Andrew Watson () wrote: >>as far as I know, you cant define a zone on one network interface only! > >does this mean that i can't setup a zone in my apartment with just one >ethernet card in my linux box? i figured that to have two zones i would >need two linux boxes but i already have that. this is most distressing. To clarify, you'll have a zone (just one) that will be the default zone. (You can't have multiple zones without an AppleTalk router or bridge. But there's no advantage to multiple zones until you have *lots* of traffic or devices -- unlikely in your apartment.) You won't be able to name that one zone, but that's okay, since you won't need to distinguish it from any other. (The chooser won't present a zone list.) Having only one zone won't affect operation at all. Many (most?) Macs opperate in single zone environments quite happily. -- Hal Wine DTOR Consulting From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 17:05:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id RAA21550; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:05:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA21534; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:05:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA11379; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:05:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA11341; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:05:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wire4.dz.ap.org by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA11282; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:05:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mwelles@localhost) by wire4.dz.ap.org (8.8.5/8.8.5/0.1) id RAA13059; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:05:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:05:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706202105.RAA13059@wire4.dz.ap.org> From: "M. L. Welles" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: REMOVE X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I thought this might be relevant: [snip] --------------------------------------------------------- Message 26/138 James Ullrey Apr 27, 97 00:42:33 am -0700 Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 00:42:33 -0700 To: "John D. Landefeld" Subject: Re: Cc: sneakers@CS.YALE.EDU Sender: owner-sneakers@CS.YALE.EDU Precedence: bulk [stuff deleted] >From the archives: Improved medical care has eliminated the natural selection that once culled them from the species (see "Man shoots self in head with nailgun, saved by doctors!", National Enquirer, August 1992). According to the best estimates, by the year 2031 the gene pool is expected to be so polluted that over 90% of all email will consist of the words "Please take me off this list," followed by a respite in 2045 when the ability to use written language evolves out of the species. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 17:49:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id RAA23284; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:49:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA23278; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:49:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA15000; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:49:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA07971; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 08:01:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from prozac.eeap.cwru.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA07827; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 08:00:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from wes@localhost) by prozac.eeap.cwru.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) id IAA30353; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 08:00:36 -0400 From: Wes Brown Message-Id: <199706201200.IAA30353@prozac.eeap.cwru.edu> Subject: Re: Does Netatalk allow printer accounting and licence managing ? To: apw@ee.adfa.oz.au Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 08:00:36 -0400 (EDT) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <199706200833.SAA21033@octarine.cc.adfa.oz.au> from "Tony Watson" at Jun 20, 97 06:33:07 pm X-URL: http://prozac.student.cwru.edu/wes/About.me.html X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Hi, > > I'm sorry to repeat this posting, but I've only had one reply. > (That could be because I managed to wreck my sendmail later in the day > (after the original post -- sorry about any bounces). ) > > I'm getting rather desperate to know the answer to this, because I > don't want to have to become an expert on netatalk and CAPS just to > find the answer. > > Surely someone must know ... Well, from looking at the UMich pages I concluded that they were running something that does accounting on the printing. (http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/umce-dev/#acct) I am still trying to get the Kerberized printing to work here. Information on Netatalk is out there, but I have only found a few places. http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk/ http://thehamptons.com/anders/netatalk/ http://artoo.hitchcock.org/~flowerpt/projects/linux-netatalk/ http://garnet.berkeley.edu/~weugster/appleprint.html > I've inherited a site that runs a little bit of netatalk and a little > bit of CAPS and I'd like to "iron out" the system, by reinstalling one > or the other. > > Two of my requirements are: > > - to be able to do per-user printer accounting, > - to be able to do licence metering (on applications), > (CAPS appears to be able to do this. That is, to have > applications installed on the server, but limited in usage by netatalk > according to how many licences I tell it we have for each application.) > > > I've had a look in the FAQ, etc and I can't see the answers there. > > Could someone let me know if netatalk can do this, so that I know > which way to go (I'd prefer to go with netatalk if possible -- it appears > to be superior in many other ways). Wes --- Wes Brown ewb4@po.cwru.edu wes@prozac.cwru.edu http://prozac.cwru.edu/wes/About.me.html KB8TGR From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 17:49:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id RAA23344; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:49:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA23329; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:49:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA15225; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:49:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA15197; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:49:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MyShadow.dtor.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA15168; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:49:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MyShadow.dtor.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by MyShadow.dtor.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03724 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:46:06 -0400 Message-Id: <199706202146.RAA03724@MyShadow.dtor.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 05/05/96 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: patches for showing dot files? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Hal Wine Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 17:46:05 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Has anyone done a set of patches to allow the Mac to see dot files (including directories)? (There's about 13 or so places '.' shows up in the afpd code. Maybe it's just a change to the one in enumerate.c.) Since I've just started evaluating netatalk for a client, maybe someone's solved the bigger problem: using a Mac to backup the unix box, including all dot files. I'm currently looking at the 1.3.3 source, as I'd prefer not to be in the beta loop. ;-) Thanks for any pointers.... -- Hal Wine DTOR Consulting From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 18:06:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id SAA24650; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 18:06:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA24643; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 18:06:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA02149; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 18:06:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA02136; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 18:06:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from morgaine.rydnet.lysator.liu.se by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA02125; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 18:06:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (svedja@localhost) by morgaine.rydnet.lysator.liu.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA02046 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 00:06:17 +0200 Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 00:06:17 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dejan Ilic Reply-To: svedja@lysator.liu.se To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: problems compiling on a Solaris x86 machine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu A lot of the solaris code seems to be made for sparc-machines. Im running solaris on a pentium. First "-mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles" flags doesnt work on solaris_x86 2.5 with gcc 2.7.2.2 so that part had to be commented out. I found that the little_endian parts were commented out in ./sys/solaris/ddp.h but enabling them makes the code compile a little more and then I get out below. I need help to get rid of it. make[1]: Entering directory `/localusers/dejan/Incoming/netatalk/sys/solaris' gcc -D_KERNEL -fpcc-struct-return -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c dlpi.c In file included from dlpi.c:54: ddp.h:106: duplicate member `dub_sum' ddp.h:107: duplicate member `dub_len' ddp.h:108: duplicate member `dub_hops' ddp.h:109: duplicate member `dub_pad' make[1]: *** [dlpi.o] Error 1 I also strongly dislike that there exists things like "ddp.h" on three places, all off them different. > find . | grep ddp.h ./include/atalk/ddp.h ./sys/netatalk/ddp.h ./sys/solaris/ddp.h There are probaly more cases like that. Any clues when next version with all new patches will be out ? ===================================================================== Dejan Ilic, Tech Univ. of Linkoping, Sweden Phone: +46-13-473 01 06 Email: svedja@lysator.liu.se Web: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~svedja "I may look like The Devil but i'm an angel deep down in my heart" ===================================================================== [finger -l svedja@lysator.liu.se for public PGP key] From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 19:39:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id TAA26392; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 19:39:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA26387; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 19:39:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA12142; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 19:39:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA12125; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 19:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from morgaine.rydnet.lysator.liu.se by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA12117; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 19:39:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (svedja@localhost) by morgaine.rydnet.lysator.liu.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA01241 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 01:39:27 +0200 Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 01:39:27 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dejan Ilic Reply-To: svedja@lysator.liu.se To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: duplicate members fix on Solaris Netatalk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ddp.h is missing a "#include " and thus "BYTE_ORDER == BIG_ENDIAN" would mean "0 == 0" because non of them would be defined, and that is equal. Very dangerous and nasty bug. Same for little_endian check. We are going to find more bugs like this in the future so I think we should avoid them. I propose that we just use simle checks like "#ifdef BIG_ENDIAN" to avoid problems like above. Also this prototype match is needed to get thru compilation on Solaris_x86 2.5 : --- libatalk/compat/strcasecmp.c.ORIG Sat Jun 21 02:35:00 1997 +++ libatalk/compat/strcasecmp.c Sat Jun 21 02:32:09 1997 @@ -70,7 +70,11 @@ int strcasecmp(s1, s2) +#ifdef SOLARIS + const char *s1, *s2; +#else char *s1, *s2; +#endif { register u_char *cm = charmap, *us1 = (u_char *)s1, @@ -84,7 +88,11 @@ int strncasecmp(s1, s2, n) +#ifdef SOLARIS + const char *s1, *s2; +#else char *s1, *s2; +#endif register size_t n; { if (n != 0) { ===================================================================== Dejan Ilic, Tech Univ. of Linkoping, Sweden Phone: +46-13-473 01 06 Email: svedja@lysator.liu.se Web: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~svedja "I may look like The Devil but i'm an angel deep down in my heart" ===================================================================== [finger -l svedja@lysator.liu.se for public PGP key] From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 19:54:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id TAA27263; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 19:54:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA27252; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 19:53:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA19482; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 19:53:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA19467; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 19:53:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA19450; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 19:53:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id QAA28769; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 16:53:41 -0700 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 16:53:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: svedja@lysator.liu.se cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: duplicate members fix on Solaris Netatalk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sat, 21 Jun 1997, Dejan Ilic wrote: > ddp.h is missing a "#include " > > and thus "BYTE_ORDER == BIG_ENDIAN" would mean "0 == 0" because non of > them would be defined, and that is equal. Very dangerous and nasty bug. > Same for little_endian check. Shouldn't it actually be "BYTE_ORDER == BIG_ENDIAN" becomes " == " which is a syntax error??? Also, I thought that all the include files were arranged so that endian.h got included anyway. I.E. if a file includes ddp.h, it should be including endian.h anyway. > We are going to find more bugs like this in the future so I think we > should avoid them. I propose that we just use simle checks like "#ifdef > BIG_ENDIAN" to avoid problems like above. The problem with that is that BIG_ENDIAN isn't defined only if you're on a big-endian machine. It's the byte order tag which means big endian. On NetBSD, on an i386, machine/endian.h says: #define LITTLE_ENDIAN 1234 #define BIG_ENDIAN 4321 #define PDP_ENDIAN 3412 #define BYTE_ORDER LITTLE_ENDIAN on an m68k NetBSD machine, only the last define is changed. So both BIG_ENDIAN and LITTLE_ENDIAN are defined on both. Checking to make sure BYTE_ORDER is defined is better. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 20:06:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id UAA27943; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 20:06:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA27936; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 20:06:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA16227; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 20:05:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA16216; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 20:05:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from morgaine.rydnet.lysator.liu.se by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA16208; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 20:05:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (svedja@localhost) by morgaine.rydnet.lysator.liu.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA01340; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 02:05:32 +0200 Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 02:05:32 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dejan Ilic Reply-To: svedja@lysator.liu.se To: Bill Studenmund cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: duplicate members fix on Solaris Netatalk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Bill Studenmund wrote: > On Sat, 21 Jun 1997, Dejan Ilic wrote: > > > ddp.h is missing a "#include " > > > > and thus "BYTE_ORDER == BIG_ENDIAN" would mean "0 == 0" because non of > > them would be defined, and that is equal. Very dangerous and nasty bug. > > Same for little_endian check. > > Shouldn't it actually be "BYTE_ORDER == BIG_ENDIAN" becomes " == " which > is a syntax error??? Well, GCC 2.7.2.2 passes that line as no error has happend. Maybe another compiler would have triggered a error there but not GCC. I dont have Sun-CC to check what happends on another compiler. Anyway including "#include " makes the problem dissapear. > Also, I thought that all the include files were arranged so that endian.h > got included anyway. I.E. if a file includes ddp.h, it should be including > endian.h anyway. As you can see it doesn't, at least no the "dpp.h" in solaris directory. I complained about the existance of several files with the same name in different directorys. It is maybe correct in another directory. > On NetBSD, on an i386, machine/endian.h says: > > #define LITTLE_ENDIAN 1234 > #define BIG_ENDIAN 4321 > #define PDP_ENDIAN 3412 > > #define BYTE_ORDER LITTLE_ENDIAN > > on an m68k NetBSD machine, only the last define is changed. So both > BIG_ENDIAN and LITTLE_ENDIAN are defined on both. > > Checking to make sure BYTE_ORDER is defined is better. Agreed. That would be best. ===================================================================== Dejan Ilic, Tech Univ. of Linkoping, Sweden Phone: +46-13-473 01 06 Email: svedja@lysator.liu.se Web: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~svedja "I may look like The Devil but i'm an angel deep down in my heart" ===================================================================== [finger -l svedja@lysator.liu.se for public PGP key] From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 20 20:35:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id UAA28702; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 20:35:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA28696; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 20:35:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA25458; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 20:35:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA25444; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 20:35:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from york.interport.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA25435; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 20:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from interport.net (cyerkes@madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by york.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04058; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 20:35:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from cyerkes@localhost) by interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA06153; Fri, 20 Jun 1997 20:35:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706210035.UAA06153@interport.net> Subject: Re: patches for showing dot files? To: hal@dtor.com (Hal Wine) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 20:35:18 -0400 (EDT) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <199706202146.RAA03724@MyShadow.dtor.com> from "Hal Wine" at Jun 20, 97 05:46:05 pm From: chuck+na@yerkes.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu It is claimed, but unverified, that Hal Wine wrote: [...] > Since I've just started evaluating netatalk for a client, maybe someone's > solved the bigger problem: using a Mac to backup the unix box, including > all dot files. > > I'm currently looking at the 1.3.3 source, as I'd prefer not to be in > the beta loop. ;-) And yet the beta2 has been stable for a LONG time (longer that most Netscape releases are current). I'm having trouble - the Mac to backup the unix box. A number of things jump to my mind, least of all the permissions/user/group issues (the mac *is* mono-user) and that Unix has lots of backup tools available - from dump and tar to AMANDA.... chuck From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jun 21 01:40:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id BAA11929; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 01:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id BAA11883; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 01:39:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id BAA11877; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 01:38:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id BAA11865; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 01:38:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706210538.BAA11865@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: svedja@lysator.liu.se cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: problems compiling on a Solaris x86 machine In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 21 Jun 1997 00:06:17 +0200." Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 01:38:49 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Dejan Ilic > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Any clues when next version with all new patches will be out ? No, I don't like to give clues. Current plans are to include patches from folks for the Solaris stuff. I have a few changes I've made, as well. Then, once 1.4 final is out, I'm going to scrap the current Solaris kernel module and rewrite it. It's just too badly designed to be a starting point. No routing, in correct philosophy for packet delivery, not enough state at the correct points. Bad design. The new Solaris code will be nicer. But, I promise not to start it until I get the 1.4 final out. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jun 21 01:48:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id BAA12542; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 01:48:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id BAA12402; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 01:47:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id BAA12393; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 01:46:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id BAA12378; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 01:46:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706210546.BAA12378@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: apw@ee.adfa.oz.au cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Does Netatalk allow printer accounting and licence managing ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 20 Jun 1997 18:33:07 +1000." <199706200833.SAA21033@octarine.cc.adfa.oz.au> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 01:46:46 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Tony Watson > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > - to be able to do per-user printer accounting, We certainly do it, at some 10 public sites, with several printers each, for over 10 million pages each year. We're distributing most, but not all, pieces, as well. Some of the pieces are just too embarrassingly ugly. > - to be able to do licence metering (on applications), We also do this, but we use something called Key Serve, I think. netatalk definitely doesn't do this. In fact, it's not possible for a file server to do it reliably, since to run an application implicitly gives one the ability to copy it. Key Serve, and the custom software that we used to use, works like a virus, infecting licensed software, so it can't run out of our public site environment. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jun 21 02:08:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id CAA13443; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 02:08:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id CAA13417; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 02:06:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id CAA13410; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 02:06:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id CAA13400; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 02:06:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706210606.CAA13400@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il cc: Netatalk Admins Mailing List Subject: Re: Defining zones In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 19 Jun 1997 17:41:58 +0300." <33A94536.41C67EA6@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 02:06:22 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" > To: Netatalk Admins Mailing List > There must be a way to define a zone for these two machines to use, does > someone know how to do it? Take a look at atalkd. Look for the parts that mention "ninterfaces". Those are the key points where atalkd is decided whether to act as a router. So, you should be able to add an additional command-line set-able flag, like, "imarouter" to those locations and it should all work magically. At least in theory. Tell us all how it works for ya. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jun 21 04:24:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id EAA15558; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 04:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id EAA15512; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 04:22:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id EAA15509; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 04:22:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA15500; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 04:22:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706210822.EAA15500@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: Charles Clark To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: patches for showing dot files? Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 04:22:48 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > Since I've just started evaluating netatalk for a client, maybe someone's > > solved the bigger problem: using a Mac to backup the unix box, including > > all dot files. Like, Oh my god, that is about the worst idea I've heard in a while. A dat drive you can slap on your unix box has to be cheaper than the manpower necessary to make that work in any reasonable manner. I could be wrong, but I think it would be problematic to try and let the mac "see" dot files, at least without weeding out the .AppleDouble directories ... -- cmclark From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jun 21 08:09:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id IAA17362; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 08:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA17357; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 08:09:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA22303; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 08:09:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA22301; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 08:09:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from octo.memory.se by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id IAA22297; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 08:09:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from relay@localhost) by octo.memory.se (8.6.8/8.6.6) id OAA02146; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:13:57 +0200 Received: from anxppp3.memory.se(193.13.248.242) by octo.memory.se via smap (V1.3) id smak02102; Sat Jun 21 14:13:11 1997 Received: from henrik (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pchno.memory.se (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA01734; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:15:33 +0200 Message-ID: <33ABA9C5.5CACA000@hem.passagen.se> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:15:33 +0200 From: Henrik Nordstrom X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Elliott CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 Panics References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Yes, I had exactly the same problem when trying metatalk for a customer. We had to use CAP instead (which seems rock solid, after some tuning and a small but important bugfix to afpidsrvr). --- Henrik Nordstr=F6m Matt Elliott wrote: > = > I've installed netatalk 1.4b2 on a Ultra Sparc running Solaris 2.5.1. = I > have AFS installed and after running the netatalk daemons the server pa= nics > some time during the next 8 hours. Has anyone had a similar experience= ? > Without netatalk running the server has been up for 86days. > = > Matt From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jun 21 08:23:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id IAA17933; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 08:23:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA17928; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 08:23:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA26682; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 08:23:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA26665; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 08:23:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from morgaine.rydnet.lysator.liu.se by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA26661; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 08:23:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (svedja@localhost) by morgaine.rydnet.lysator.liu.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA04725 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:23:25 +0200 Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 14:23:25 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dejan Ilic Reply-To: svedja@lysator.liu.se To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Netatalk #if problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Little off-topic but important. I just got confirmed from our local C-"experts" that ANSI-C expands any undefined references to the value "0" while K&R leaves a empty string. So this affects the solaris-code just like I said. Because neither BYTE_ORDER, BIG_ENDIAN and LITTLE_ENDIAN are defined in ddp.h both "BYTE_ORDER == BIG_ENDIAN" and "BYTE_ORDER == LITTLE_ENDIAN" cases are valid (as 0 == 0). And there you have a bug. ===================================================================== Dejan Ilic, Tech Univ. of Linkoping, Sweden Phone: +46-13-473 01 06 Email: svedja@lysator.liu.se Web: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~svedja "I may look like The Devil but i'm an angel deep down in my heart" ===================================================================== [finger -l svedja@lysator.liu.se for public PGP key] From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jun 21 12:57:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id MAA20684; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:57:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA20676; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:57:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA22988; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:56:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA22984; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:56:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from meno.uchicago.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA22980; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 12:56:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phaedrus.uchicago.edu (sfarrell@phaedrus [128.135.21.10]) by meno.uchicago.edu (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA06638; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 11:56:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from sfarrell@localhost) by phaedrus.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA00705; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 11:56:46 -0500 To: wesley.craig@umich.edu Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: problems compiling on a Solaris x86 machine References: <199706210538.BAA11865@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: stephen farrell Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.89) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 21 Jun 1997 11:56:45 -0500 In-Reply-To: wesley.craig@umich.edu's message of Sat, 21 Jun 1997 01:38:49 -0400 Message-ID: <87iuz7rj1u.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.37/XEmacs 19.15 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu wesley.craig@umich.edu writes: > > From: Dejan Ilic > > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > > > Any clues when next version with all new patches will be out ? > > No, I don't like to give clues. Current plans are to include patches > from folks for the Solaris stuff. I have a few changes I've made, as > well. Then, once 1.4 final is out, I'm going to scrap the current > Solaris kernel module and rewrite it. It's just too badly designed to > be a starting point. No routing, in correct philosophy for packet > delivery, not enough state at the correct points. Bad design. The new > Solaris code will be nicer. But, I promise not to start it until I get > the 1.4 final out. Just out of curiousity, have you gotten the new academic free source license of solaris? --sf From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jun 21 19:26:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id TAA24892; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:26:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA24888; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:26:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA02338; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:26:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA02336; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:26:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA02305; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:25:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id QAA33674; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 16:25:47 -0700 Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 16:25:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: svedja@lysator.liu.se cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: duplicate members fix on Solaris Netatalk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sat, 21 Jun 1997, Dejan Ilic wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Bill Studenmund wrote: > > > Shouldn't it actually be "BYTE_ORDER == BIG_ENDIAN" becomes " == " which > > is a syntax error??? > > Well, GCC 2.7.2.2 passes that line as no error has happend. Maybe another > compiler would have triggered a error there but not GCC. I dont have > Sun-CC to check what happends on another compiler. Weird. > > Also, I thought that all the include files were arranged so that endian.h > > got included anyway. I.E. if a file includes ddp.h, it should be including > > endian.h anyway. > > As you can see it doesn't, at least no the "dpp.h" in solaris directory. I > complained about the existance of several files with the same name in > different directorys. It is maybe correct in another directory. No. ddp.h isn't supposed to include endian.h. Any program file which includes ddp.h is already supposed to be including endian.h. I did a search on the files in libatalk, and of the five files which include atalk/ddp.h, only one (libatalk/atp/atp_packet.c) doesn't also include atalk/endian.h. In bin, bin/aecho/aecho.c is fine (includes both). In /etc, only files in atalkd include ddp.h. Of them, main.c, rtmp.c, and zip.c are fine, but aep.c and nbp.c don't also include endian.h. So rather than change ddp.h, I think the better fix is for all files which include ddp.h to also be including endian.h. That means adding an include line to three files. :-) Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jun 21 19:34:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id TAA25336; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:34:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA25329; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:34:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA03647; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:34:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA03645; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:34:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sozio.geist-soz.uni-karlsruhe.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id TAA03640; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 19:34:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4876 invoked from network); 21 Jun 1997 23:34:56 -0000 Received: from isdn-uk49.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (HELO m2w.morio.taneda.de) (@129.13.225.28) by sozio.geist-soz.uni-karlsruhe.de with SMTP; 21 Jun 1997 23:34:56 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970622013136.3e4708e0@129.13.128.129> X-Sender: morio@129.13.128.129 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 01:31:36 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Morio Taneda Subject: Re: Defining zones In-Reply-To: <199706210606.CAA13400@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, (To Yannai Gonzcaro) >Take a look at atalkd. Look for the parts that mention "ninterfaces". PMYI, I did exactly that, in my atalkd-ppp, so it doesn't switch between routing when a ppp interface is up and no routing when the ppp is down, when i only have one ethernet interface. It didn't quite work on the ethernet side: usually the mac would notice the zones when i switch to ethertalk in the network control panel but drop the zones pretty soon and ignore them. I haven't looked into it very much. Might be this: don't i have to send a route list with each zone about which tell a segment? With one interface, that route list would be empty, which could be flagged as an error by other nodes. In this case the better quick hack (for linux) would be to configure an interface with the dummy device. Morio Morio Taneda From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jun 21 21:37:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id VAA26567; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 21:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id VAA26563; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 21:37:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id VAA26561; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 21:37:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id VAA26552; Sat, 21 Jun 1997 21:37:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706220137.VAA26552@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Bill Studenmund cc: svedja@lysator.liu.se, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: duplicate members fix on Solaris Netatalk In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 21 Jun 1997 16:25:46 PDT." Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 21:37:28 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Bill Studenmund > To: svedja@lysator.liu.se > I did a search on the files in libatalk, and of the five files which > include atalk/ddp.h, only one (libatalk/atp/atp_packet.c) doesn't also > include atalk/endian.h. I think he's talking about the solaris stuff. ;wes From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jun 22 05:19:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id FAA09467; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 05:19:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id FAA09463; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 05:19:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA20228; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 05:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA20226; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 05:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from morgaine.rydnet.lysator.liu.se by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id FAA20222; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 05:18:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (svedja@localhost) by morgaine.rydnet.lysator.liu.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA03265 for ; Sun, 22 Jun 1997 11:18:50 +0200 Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 11:18:50 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dejan Ilic Reply-To: svedja@lysator.liu.se To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: duplicate members fix on Solaris Netatalk In-Reply-To: <199706220137.VAA26552@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sat, 21 Jun 1997 wesley.craig@umich.edu wrote: > > From: Bill Studenmund > > To: svedja@lysator.liu.se > > > I did a search on the files in libatalk, and of the five files which > > include atalk/ddp.h, only one (libatalk/atp/atp_packet.c) doesn't also > > include atalk/endian.h. > > I think he's talking about the solaris stuff. Yes, I was talking about Solaris part. The only that shoewed any compilation-problem. But the same problem can maybe be found on other places in the source. ===================================================================== Dejan Ilic, Tech Univ. of Linkoping, Sweden Phone: +46-13-473 01 06 Email: svedja@lysator.liu.se Web: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~svedja "I may look like The Devil but i'm an angel deep down in my heart" ===================================================================== [finger -l svedja@lysator.liu.se for public PGP key] From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 23 07:51:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id HAA04286; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 07:51:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA04282; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 07:51:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA25552; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 07:51:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA25549; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 07:51:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id HAA25544; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 07:51:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de (charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de [134.169.36.47]) by dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA16757; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 13:51:03 +0200 Received: by charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA17121; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 13:50:21 +0200 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 13:50:21 +0200 Message-Id: <199706231150.NAA17121@charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de> From: Mario Klebsch DG1AM To: apw@ee.adfa.oz.au CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199706200833.SAA21033@octarine.cc.adfa.oz.au> (message from Tony Watson on Fri, 20 Jun 1997 18:33:07 +1000 (EST)) Subject: Re: Does Netatalk allow printer accounting and licence managing ? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! >Two of my requirements are: > > - to be able to do per-user printer accounting, Since the netatalk afp server runs as a UNIX process under the identity of the user, it should work (without any configuration) if the UNIX spool system does per user accounting. This depends on your spool system and not on netatalk. I know, that the plp (public line printer) software does support accounting, but the spool system backends do have to support it. > - to be able to do licence metering (on applications), > (CAPS appears to be able to do this. That is, to have > applications installed on the server, but limited in usage by netatalk > according to how many licences I tell it we have for each application.) I don't know, hos this can be done. The users always can copy the files on their local disk and after cpying them, they are not busy anymore, on the server. 73, Mario -- Mario Klebsch, DG1AM, M.Klebsch@tu-bs.de +49 531 / 391 - 7457 Institut fuer Robotik und Prozessinformatik der TU Braunschweig Hamburger Strasse 267, 38114 Braunschweig, Germany From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 23 08:30:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id IAA05378; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 08:30:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA05374; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 08:30:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA27172; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 08:30:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA27168; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 08:30:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id IAA27135; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 08:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de (charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de [134.169.36.47]) by dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA17229; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 14:30:33 +0200 Received: by charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA17144; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 14:29:51 +0200 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 14:29:51 +0200 Message-Id: <199706231229.OAA17144@charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de> From: Mario Klebsch DG1AM To: djhoward@uiuc.edu CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (dannyman@stumpy.ncsa.uiuc.edu) Subject: Re: Sharing *from* a Mac *to* Unix Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! >I have netatalk installed on this one ... is it possible to mount an >AppleShare drive onto my machine? Say just have a /mac_html directory >somewheres or such? How would I go about doing that? Has this ever been >done before? This is almost impossible. The most important reason is, that the afp is not multi user capable. When a Volume would be mounted with afp, all accesses would be done using the same UID. There are a limited range of applications, where this would be ok, but in general it is not ok to do so. You would have to do something like "personal mounts" on the UNIX box, where every user of the system can mount his own file systems. But most UNIX systems do not allow other users than root to mount file systems. But there is an afp client for UNIX. I do not know, wether it is part of CAP or netatalk. But I did use it to access files on a mac. It runs as a user process and is used a bit like FTP. 73, Mario -- Mario Klebsch, DG1AM, M.Klebsch@tu-bs.de +49 531 / 391 - 7457 Institut fuer Robotik und Prozessinformatik der TU Braunschweig Hamburger Strasse 267, 38114 Braunschweig, Germany From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 23 11:13:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id LAA09969; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:13:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA09952; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA07574; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:12:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA07571; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from morgaine.rydnet.lysator.liu.se by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA07564; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:12:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (svedja@localhost) by morgaine.rydnet.lysator.liu.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA00515 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 17:12:41 +0200 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 17:12:41 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dejan Ilic Reply-To: svedja@lysator.liu.se To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Solaris_X86 problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I tested netatalk 1.4b for the first time and after the compile-problems I have described in earlier emails (missing include) I found that there is some kernel-driver problem also. Solaris starts up without problems and as long as I dont access the appletalk-part there is no problem. BUT when I try to run atalkd I get problems: atalkd.conf .. Nowhere in the documentation did I find the WHERE it should be stored. The docs (atalkd.conf.8) talks about /atalkd.conf there is should be something like "${ETCDIR}/atalkd.conf". Anyway I found it after browsing the source. Then when modifying it I found myself thinking "should I try with etx0 or ddp0 ?". Again, nowhere it is said which one to use. I tested etx0, my first and only ethernet interface in this machine. starting atalkd succeeded only once. Three tests more resulted in a kernel-trap and reboot. I have no idea where to go from here. The machine is a Pentium-100 with Solaris 2.5 + all the Sun recomended patches and DU9 driver-patch. The ethernet card is a 3com-905TX running on a 10Mb/s net. There is another (main) server running as gateway and appletalk-server on the same network. It's running CAP6.0p197 Anyone successfully running NetAtalk on a Solaris_x86 machine ? I didnt try any netatalk-1.3.x as I understand it has almos no solaris-support. ===================================================================== Dejan Ilic, Tech Univ. of Linkoping, Sweden Phone: +46-13-473 01 06 Email: svedja@lysator.liu.se Web: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~svedja "I may look like The Devil but i'm an angel deep down in my heart" ===================================================================== [finger -l svedja@lysator.liu.se for public PGP key] From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 23 11:43:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id LAA11194; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:43:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA11189; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:43:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA18767; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:43:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA18760; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:43:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news.mtu.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA18752; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:43:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtu.edu (mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01046 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:43:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (bioserver.bio.mtu.edu [141.219.40.72]) by mtu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28589 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:43:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from edan@localhost) by bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (8.6.13/MTU-R1.9) id LAA07722 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:44:06 -0400 From: Edan Idzerda Message-Id: <199706231544.LAA07722@bioserver.bio.mtu.edu> Subject: Re: Does Netatalk allow printer accounting ... To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 11:44:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP3 *ALPHA*] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Mario Klebsch DG1AM allegedly said... > > > > - to be able to do per-user printer accounting, > > Since the netatalk afp server runs as a UNIX process under the > identity of the user, it should work (without any configuration) if Well, since apfd doesn't do printing, that's not necessarily true, is it? I haven't seen anything in the papd documentation describing how you can get the username from the connecting Mac. Of course, the whole 'pr=|lpr' wasn't in the docs, either. I'm certain that netatalk can be used as *part* of a system that does printer accounting, but I don't believe it can be done with the packages that they've released to the public :) > > - to be able to do licence metering (on applications), > > (CAPS appears to be able to do this. That is, to have > > applications installed on the server, but limited in usage by netatalk > > according to how many licences I tell it we have for each application.) > > I don't know, hos this can be done. The users always can copy the > files on their local disk and after cpying them, they are not busy > anymore, on the server. I don't know exactly how it works, either, but I know it can be done. I can't remember if CAP denied people from copying the application or if we used different software for that function. (MacPrefect comes to mind.) So if you keep people from copying the application, then it can be done, eh? I'd be interested in how other sites are doing print accounting using netatalk, with or without Kerberos. The MacOS's lack of a "logged in user" really bites in a multiuser environment. (I know there are probably ways to do it but it doesn't SHIP with it.) - edan -- Edan Idzerda System Administrator -- Michigan Technological University, Houghton MI From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 23 12:39:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id MAA15654; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 12:39:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA15646; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 12:39:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA07738; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 12:39:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA07734; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 12:39:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from luxbbs.itserve.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA07721; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 12:39:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from davidhspc.atlanta.itserve.com ([155.229.86.45]) by luxbbs.itserve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA08781 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 12:42:11 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 12:15:28 -0400 (EDT) Organization: Imaging Technologies From: David Hamm To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Modified time on the Mac Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm having a file modification time problem with my netatalk server. I'm running 1.4.2b on a Linux box with Redhat 4.0 and kernel 2.0.18. The last modified time on the Mac is exactly 30 minutes greater than what shows when you do an "ls -al" on the Linux box. In order to help track down this problem we created a directory called Testing and copied a number of files to it on June 5th and this weekend around June 20 or 21st the Macs got out of sync with the server. The Macs all show "ls -al" time + 30 minutes. Any Clues? Thanks Dh ------ David Hamm - dhamm@itserve.com -------- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 23 12:55:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id MAA16372; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 12:55:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA16367; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 12:55:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA13431; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 12:55:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA13424; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 12:55:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bock.freinet.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id MAA13411; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 12:55:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from prometheus (helge@id-online.freinet.de [193.141.226.117]) by bock.freinet.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA06917 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 18:55:47 +0200 Message-ID: <33AEAB37.42FDCDDF@id-online.freinet.de> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 18:58:31 +0200 From: Helge Münnich Organization: ID-Online X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.25 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: ppp with Netatalk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, my Linux-box is running Netatalk 1.4b2 and is the file-server for several macs. I want to connect the Linux-box (and hereby the mac-LAN) with a mac (with a pinocchio-card) from a outworker over ISDN. At the moment I do this with ftp, but the stuff with the creating of binarys and reverse take pains (not so much to buy a pinocchio or leonardo for one of the macs ;). Have someone suggestions to do this directly with Netatalk over e.g. ppp? Thanks for the attention, Helge From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 23 12:56:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id MAA16418; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 12:56:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA16410; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 12:56:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA14577; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 12:56:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA14575; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 12:56:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from schubert.promo.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA14536; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 12:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA26646; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 18:52:58 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199706231544.LAA07722@bioserver.bio.mtu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 18:56:02 +0200 To: Edan Idzerda , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Stefan Bethke Subject: Re: Does Netatalk allow printer accounting ... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu netatalk 1.4b2 (or any early version) can neither do print job accounting nor file copy protection. At 17:44 Uhr +0200 23.06.1997, Edan Idzerda wrote: >Mario Klebsch DG1AM allegedly said... >> > >> > - to be able to do per-user printer accounting, >> >> Since the netatalk afp server runs as a UNIX process under the >> identity of the user, it should work (without any configuration) if > >Well, since apfd doesn't do printing, that's not necessarily true, is >it? I haven't seen anything in the papd documentation describing >how you can get the username from the connecting Mac. Of course, >the whole 'pr=|lpr' wasn't in the docs, either. Print job accounting is not easy to achieve. Although the Printer Access Protocol contains provisions for a "password", neither LaserWriter 7.x nor 8.x make any use of, nor do they provide any user authentication data. Two workarounds are possible: - use the Owners Name (as set in the Sharing Setup control panel), which is included as the ADSC comment %%For: to authenticate the user. This requires that users have set this name correctly; it is quite easy to circumvent this mechanism if you are to use the accounting data for billing or other "real" accounting. - require the user to be logged in to the file server on the same machine, then matching the AppleTalk address of the job's sender to aquire authentication data from the afpd process. This would require that afpd would write something equivalent to stmp and wtmp; a good idea anyway. > > >> > - to be able to do licence metering (on applications), >> > (CAPS appears to be able to do this. That is, to have >> > applications installed on the server, but limited in usage by >>netatalk >> > according to how many licences I tell it we have for each >>application.) >> >> I don't know, hos this can be done. The users always can copy the >> files on their local disk and after cpying them, they are not busy >> anymore, on the server. > >I don't know exactly how it works, either, but I know it can be done. >I can't remember if CAP denied people from copying the application >or if we used different software for that function. (MacPrefect comes >to mind.) So if you keep people from copying the application, >then it can be done, eh? >From Inside AppleTalk, 2nd., pp. 13-20: "The Macintosh Finder will not copy a file whose CopyProtect bit is set. An attempt to copy the file using the FPCopyFile command will result in an error." However, the Finder will allow launching if the file is an application (APPL or appe). Actually, the Finder only inhibits copying the file; openening it always OK. And if you have some other utility, say DiskTop, you can copy the app regardless. What would have to be implemented in afpd would be - setting the CopyProtect bit for a file; - managing a counter which counts the number of times the file is currently open, and a mechanism to store the maximum allowed for that file (so you can launch the app only so often). Regards, Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-0 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 23 13:40:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id NAA18520; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 13:40:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA18516; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 13:40:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA02586; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 13:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA02582; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 13:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from luxbbs.itserve.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA02577; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 13:40:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from davidhspc.atlanta.itserve.com ([155.229.86.45]) by luxbbs.itserve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA09345 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 13:43:49 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 13:26:42 -0400 (EDT) Organization: Imaging Technologies From: David Hamm To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: timelord Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'd like to start using timelord on my server to help maintain time sync on all of the Mac clients. I'v got the source for timelord but I'm sure where to get the Tardis control panel or if I need it? Any Suggestions? Thanks Dh ------ David Hamm - dhamm@itserve.com -------- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 23 17:00:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id RAA25899; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 17:00:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA25891; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 17:00:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA26040; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 17:00:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA26035; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 17:00:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netcomm.NetComm.IE by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA25823; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 17:00:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [129.156.240.33] (kevin-mac [129.156.240.33]) by netcomm.NetComm.IE (8.8.0/8.7) with ESMTP id IAA05973; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 08:08:13 +0400 X-Sender: kevinbr@129.156.240.1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <33AEAB37.42FDCDDF@id-online.freinet.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 21:18:22 +0100 To: Helge =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=B8nnich?= From: Kevin Brown - NetComm Subject: Re: ppp with Netatalk Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, What you need is to found at : http://www.cs.mu.oz.au/appletalk/atalk.html Look at the UAR router, and the ADEV for the Mac. This allows a Atalk tunnelllover UDP via PPP for the Mac. I use it al the time from home to get volumes via the chooser from home. I suspect FTP is faster, but this is convienient. Yes it works with Netatalk 1.4b2. I have found the zones can get a big flakey at times. regards, Kevin At 17:58 +0100 23/6/97, Helge M=B8nnich wrote: >Hi, >my Linux-box is running Netatalk 1.4b2 and is the file-server for >several macs. I want to connect the Linux-box (and hereby the mac-LAN) >with a mac (with a pinocchio-card) from a outworker over ISDN. At the >moment I do this with ftp, but the stuff with the creating of binarys >and reverse take pains (not so much to buy a pinocchio or leonardo for >one of the macs ;). >Have someone suggestions to do this directly with Netatalk over e.g. >ppp? > >Thanks for the attention, >Helge //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Kevin Brown | N \ We operate in Ireland, UK NetComm | e / and the Middle East Internet Training, | t \ --DUBAI-- Consultancy and Networking | C / Voice: +971-4-491476 | o \ Fax: +971-4-492957 Sun Microsystems | m / --UK-- Internet Associate | m \ Voice: +44-467-365419 | / Fax: +44-1276-35197 The Internet | \ email: kevinbr@netcomm.ie Experts | / info@netcomm.ie | \ http://www.netcomm.ie \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 23 17:54:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id RAA28942; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 17:54:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from us.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA28934; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 17:54:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA18829; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 17:54:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA18820; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 17:54:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id RAA18816; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 17:54:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 17:54:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt McLean X-Sender: mattmc@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu Reply-To: mattmc@umich.edu To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Mac Aliases changing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Folks, Netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1, no afs. I have more than one Mac user who claims to have made an alias to a folder on the Sun box that, overnight, 'changed' and now points to a different directory on the Sun box. Anyone else seen this? They've done it several times, so I don't think they are the ones messing up. Peace, -- Matt McLean Systems Administrator School of Information & Library Studies Tifosi From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 23 19:31:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id TAA03876; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:31:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA03871; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:31:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA10027; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:30:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA10021; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:30:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newton.batcon.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA10003; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:30:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.1.2] (hegel.batcon.int [172.16.1.2]) by newton.batcon.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA04497; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:30:43 -0400 X-Sender: dbatten@mail.batcon.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:32:49 -0400 To: mattmc@umich.edu From: dbatten@batcon.com (Dean Batten) Subject: Re: Mac Aliases changing Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The user is most likely correct. There was a lengthy discussion a month or so ago on the linux-atalk mailing list about this. If I recall correctly, there are three ways you can refer to a file--path, folder id + filename, and file id. While the path reference is consistent between mounts of a Netatalk volume, the folder and file id's are not. A Finder alias, unfortunately, uses one of the reference methods for which Netatalk is inconsistent: each mount of the volume, the alias will point to something different. >Folks, > >Netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1, no afs. > >I have more than one Mac user who claims to have made an alias to a >folder on the Sun box that, overnight, 'changed' and now points to a >different directory on the Sun box. Anyone else seen this? They've >done it several times, so I don't think they are the ones messing up. > >Peace, >-- > Matt McLean Systems Administrator > School of Information & Library Studies Tifosi Dean Batten ........ Batten Consulting ... 610/437-3516 dbatten@batcon.com . Allentown, PA ..... www.batcon.com From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 23 19:36:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id TAA04289; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:36:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA04279; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:36:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA02196; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:36:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA02192; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:36:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id TAA02187; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:36:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de (charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de [134.169.36.47]) by dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id BAA22962; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 01:36:14 +0200 Received: by charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id BAA19141; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 01:35:32 +0200 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 01:35:32 +0200 Message-Id: <199706232335.BAA19141@charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de> From: Mario Klebsch DG1AM To: dbatten@batcon.com CC: mattmc@umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (dbatten@batcon.com) Subject: Re: Mac Aliases changing Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! >If I recall correctly, there are three ways you can refer to a file--path, >folder id + filename, and file id. While the path reference is consistent >between mounts of a Netatalk volume, the folder and file id's are not. A >Finder alias, unfortunately, uses one of the reference methods for which >Netatalk is inconsistent: each mount of the volume, the alias will point to >something different. But afp does announce, wether the server supports FileIDs or not. And I would use I-Node numbers as FileIDs. They are constant as long as the File exists. However unlike real FileIDs, I-Node numbers get reused. 73, Mario -- Mario Klebsch, DG1AM, M.Klebsch@tu-bs.de +49 531 / 391 - 7457 Institut fuer Robotik und Prozessinformatik der TU Braunschweig Hamburger Strasse 267, 38114 Braunschweig, Germany From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 23 19:37:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id TAA04492; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:37:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA04478; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:37:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA02438; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:37:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA02434; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:37:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MIT.EDU by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id TAA02425; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:37:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from DEPOT.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA10833; Mon, 23 Jun 97 19:37:25 EDT Received: by depot.MIT.EDU (5.x/4.7) id AA25760; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:37:24 -0400 Message-Id: <9706232337.AA25760@depot.MIT.EDU> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Can someone setup a digest for this list? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:37:23 EDT From: "Thomas H. Grayson" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Now that the traffic on this list has skyrocketed, I'd greatly prefer to get a daily digest of the messages rather than receive each one individually. Could one of the list maintainers please set up this option? Tom Grayson From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 23 19:42:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id TAA05164; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:42:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA05158; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:42:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA14187; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:42:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA14177; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:42:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id TAA14169; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:42:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de (charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de [134.169.36.47]) by dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id BAA22984; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 01:42:08 +0200 Received: by charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id BAA19153; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 01:41:26 +0200 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 01:41:26 +0200 Message-Id: <199706232341.BAA19153@charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de> From: Mario Klebsch DG1AM To: thg@MIT.EDU CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <9706232337.AA25760@depot.MIT.EDU> (thg@MIT.EDU) Subject: Re: Can someone setup a digest for this list? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! >Now that the traffic on this list has skyrocketed, I'd greatly prefer to get a >daily digest of the messages rather than receive each one individually. Could >one of the list maintainers please set up this option? What about starting the procedure to create a newsgroup? This mailinglist does proof that there is enough traffic for a newsgroup. 73, Mario -- Mario Klebsch, DG1AM, M.Klebsch@tu-bs.de +49 531 / 391 - 7457 Institut fuer Robotik und Prozessinformatik der TU Braunschweig Hamburger Strasse 267, 38114 Braunschweig, Germany From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 23 19:48:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id TAA05882; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:48:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA05861; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:48:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA04558; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:48:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA04556; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:48:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news.mtu.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA04552; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:48:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtu.edu (mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA14947; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:48:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (bioserver.bio.mtu.edu [141.219.40.72]) by mtu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA10346; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:48:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from edan@localhost) by bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (8.6.13/MTU-R1.9) id TAA11968; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:48:53 -0400 From: Edan Idzerda Message-Id: <199706232348.TAA11968@bioserver.bio.mtu.edu> Subject: Re: Can someone setup a digest for this list? To: mkl@charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (Mario Klebsch DG1AM) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:48:52 -0400 (EDT) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <199706232341.BAA19153@charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de> from "Mario Klebsch DG1AM" at Jun 24, 97 01:41:26 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP3 *ALPHA*] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > What about starting the procedure to create a newsgroup? This > mailinglist does proof that there is enough traffic for a newsgroup. Well, there is already comp.protocols.atalk, which doesn't really get that much traffic. - edan -- Edan Idzerda System Administrator -- Michigan Technological University, Houghton MI From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 23 20:00:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id UAA06561; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:00:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA06555; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:00:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA20523; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:00:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA20520; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:00:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from audrey.Ivy.NET by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA20503; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (carton@localhost) by audrey.Ivy.NET (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA29406; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:59:53 -0400 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:59:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Miles Nordin Reply-To: Miles Nordin To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Does Netatalk allow printer accounting ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu my email tends to piss people off, so please send hatemail to me directly at carton@Ivy.NET. thanks. > netatalk 1.4b2 (or any early version) can neither do print job accounting > nor file copy protection. Perhaps what you need to do is stop expecting netatalk to solve all your problems for you. Printer accouting and license managing are common legitimate goals that have been solved and re-solved many times at many Mac-centric Universities, with varying degrees of success. A diverse network requires diverse solutions. While I don't know much about these things myself, I can give you some places to start that will probably lead to your eventually solving your problem. If, however, your goal is to hammer craig and make him do more work, work specific to the needs of your institution, don't bother reading the rest of this message because none of my ideas are Netatalk-specific. "well, CAP can ......" fine, go use CAP. I believe the fascist sysadmins at Penn State have devised a way to accomplish both of these goals. Their license-accounting thing is done with a control panel whose name i forget--it looks like a "key" though. It is a fairly common program that I've seen at many universities. If you can't find it I can probably track down the name for you in a few days--please post a followup if you discover where someone can buy this program. Anyway this is how it works: You specify a keyserver, which i think is another Mac. Before deploying your applications on the net share, you mangle them using a resedit-ish mechanism to merge a bit of startup code into each app binary. This startup code does license management. If you copy the binary to a local disk, it still contains the startup code and thus still is license-protected. To defeat the mechanism you would have to use resedit to remove their code, which may well be trivial to the experienced KeyServer hacker but not to the average user. I believe Haverford College and several other universities also use this program in their labs. I believe it is a commercial program. It is, however, a well-written commercial program, unlike stopgap hacks like MacPrefect that cause more trouble to legitimate users than they're worth. MacPrefect in my experience tends to encourage sysadmins to enact fascist restrictive policies that encumber the most benign unforseen uses and problem diagnosis, and any power user who isn't too stupid to live can disable it within fifteen minutes, even if he's never seen it before. the key-server license manager works very smoothly, and is a very targeted solution that does not interfere with things besides license management. It is also harder to disable than MacPrefect, if you happen to be one of these hatchet-weilding evil power-freak sysadmins who cares about having your work trampled and reverse-engineered. Penn State has written custom in-house code to do printer accounting. Their scheme is a shameless hack, using server code that runs on Windows NT, and all jobs are eventually funneled through a Mac SE before going to the printer. Ugly, _but_ it works, reliably. I don't know if you would want to use it, because of the icky WinNT dependency and the unpolished nature of the product--you would probably have to do some of your own coding to get it working, and in my experience most sysadmins are too stupid or too lazy to write their own code (myself included). Also I do not know if they would release it. because the people at Penn State are assholes who do not believe in the concept that universities should be collaborative institutions striving to attain more knowledge and resources for the whole world--rather they view themselves as an independent nationalistic entity that has to protect their own "security" above all else, and prevent outsiders from draining their precious state-funded resources, which are meant to be applied to the churning out of identical alcoholic imbecilic graduates ready to enter the work force and submit to piss tests and do exactly what they're told, rather than to the attainment of greater general knowledge and accomplishment for the betterment of society. Also, Penn State is the sort of place that would try to preserve the security of their system by hiding source code and protocol information, relying on the limitations of their attackers' intelligence rather than the inherent security of their system. Naturally this sort of strategy does not work at places like MIT, CMU, Berkeley, u.s.w., but at a decidedly mediocre institution like Penn State it makes sense. The Penn State system works by using an init that forces users to login with a Kerberos userid and password at system startup. Kerberos is used for authentication only, and the TGT is not retained throughout the session. When you shut down the Mac, the NT machine is somehow informed of this logout. Note that the TGT is _not_ retained throughout the session, and is _not_ used for any subsequent authentication. The mac merely checks in with the NT server at login and logout, and the NT server keeps track of who is where. This defeats the beauty of Kerberos, but it permits the system to function without any mods or patches to MacOS (or the freeware mac utilites that I am about to discuss). Print jobs are spooled using a drag-and-drop lpr client for the Mac, and sent to a UNIX machine. This means the user has to print-to-file, grab the Postscript file, and drag it onto the "print me" icon. This sounds difficult, but believe it or not the drooling drunken idiots at Penn State have no problem with this procedure. netatalk could intervene at this stage to make things simpler. In their system, the drag-and-drop lpr client does no accounting or authentication--it merely pushes the files onto the UNIX server--so netatalk wouldn't need to do PAP authentication either. papd would, however, have to establish a clear and foolproof notion of which Mac was making the request, and since PAP does not run over IP, it would be hard to match papd's idea of identity with the idea held by the Kerberos-based login tracker. Once the jobs are on the UNIX machine, the UNIX machine queries the NT machine to see who is logged in at that perticular Mac, and uses that username to do the accounting. The job is accepted or denied based on the status of the user's account, and the user gets an account-balance summary on the banner page. The nice thing about the Penn State system is that they can use it for both their PC's and their Mac's. The non-reusable pieces are only the custom Kerberos app and the freeware lpr client. Write to: John Kalbach tell him Miles Nordin sent you, and that you're trying to get ahold of the guy who wrote the printing accounting software for the public microcomputer labs. John Kalbach did not write it himself, but he will know who did. He is very busy, and unlike most of Penn State he is (at least superficially, as far as I know him) a competent and free-thinking individual, so please be polite and generally more respectful than I am. or, browse the web pages starting at http://cac.psu.edu/. You may be able to find a link to the author's page that way. Better yet, write to the guys at Stanford University. I believe they have a far superior accounting mechanism, and they are not assholes like the people at Penn State so you are more likely to get a helpful response from them. Unfortunately I know less about their system because I never attended there--just have a friend who does. -- Miles Nordin home 1-888-857-2723 555 Bryant Street #182 or +1 510 608-1813 Palo Alto, CA 94301 http://www.ivy.net/~carton From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 23 20:05:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id UAA07018; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:05:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA07002; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:05:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA07878; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:05:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA07872; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:05:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from id.wustl.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id UAA07864; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:05:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32097 invoked by alias); 24 Jun 1997 00:05:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19970624000521.32096.qmail@id.wustl.edu> Received: (qmail 32094 invoked from network); 24 Jun 1997 00:05:20 -0000 Received: from cfl8844a.id.wustl.edu (192.168.1.250) by id.wustl.edu with SMTP; 24 Jun 1997 00:05:20 -0000 From: "Fred Lindberg" To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Date: Mon, 23 Jun 97 19:07:21 -0600 Reply-To: "Fred Lindberg" X-Mailer: Frederik's Registered PMMail 1.51 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Can someone setup a digest for this list? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 23 Jun 1997 19:37:23 EDT, Thomas H. Grayson wrote: >Now that the traffic on this list has skyrocketed, I'd greatly prefer to get a >daily digest of the messages rather than receive each one individually. Could >one of the list maintainers please set up this option? I agree and much prefer a digest to a news group. Here (as in many other places) E-mail is still free while news access is charged for. Thus, most people don't have th readers, ... FWIW -Sincerely, Fred (Frederik Lindberg, Infectious Diseases, WashU, St. Louis, MO, USA) From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 23 20:14:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id UAA07916; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:14:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA07910; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:14:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA25240; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:14:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA25238; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cyberverse.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA25234; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 20:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phtfft.digiplanet.com (talon.cyberverse.com [204.140.176.11]) by mail.cyberverse.com (8.8.5/mail) with SMTP id RAA22002 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 1997 17:14:03 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 17:09:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Conner To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: AppleshareIP Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Good morning. I just subscribed to the list about twenty seconds ago, so please forgive me if this is previously-covered territory. What are the plans for support of Appleshare over tcp/ip? The client will be bundled with the next MacOS release, which is about three weeks away. There is a version of KA-Share (Xinet's commercial product for Irix) which supports it available now. While I feel that netatalk is an inherently superior method, I think that this protocol change will represent a huge performance increase; probably enough to induce me to go with a commercial product running on a platform I dislike. Please, someone tell me that netatalk will also support this very shortly, and save me from having to make the less pleasant decision? -Conner -----BEGIN GC BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GAT d++(--) H++>+++ s+:+ !g>g+ !p au-- a? w++ v++ C++++ W++ L++ P--- 3- N+ E---- K- W----- O- M+++ V-- PS+(+++) PE@ PGP++ X DI++ G Y+ t !5 jx R@ G('') !tv b+++ D- B-- e* u+ h++(!h) f+ r(+) n@ y++ ------END GC BLOCK----- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jun 24 06:09:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id GAA23716; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 06:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA23709; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 06:09:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA01249; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 06:09:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA01247; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 06:09:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chava.netmedia.net.il by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA01243; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 06:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leyada.jlm.k12.il ([192.115.119.3]) by chava.netmedia.net.il (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29190; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 13:10:00 +0200 (IST) Received: from MIN4100/MAIL_Q by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 24 Jun 97 13:10:12 +0200 Received: from MAIL_Q by MIN4100 (Mercury 1.21); 24 Jun 97 13:09:22 +0200 Received: from tycoon by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 24 Jun 97 13:09:04 +0200 Message-ID: <33AF9C46.41C67EA6@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 13:07:02 +0300 From: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" Organization: Hebrew University High School X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Hamm CC: Netatalk Admins Mailing List Subject: Re: timelord References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu David Hamm wrote: > > I'd like to start using timelord on my server to help maintain time sync on > all of the Mac clients. I'v got the source for timelord but I'm sure where to > get the Tardis control panel or if I need it? Any Suggestions? > > Thanks Dh > ------ David Hamm - dhamm@itserve.com -------- In order to use timelord with netatalk, you need to download the timelord source (link can be found on the netatalk page). In order for a mac to be a server, you need the TimeLord control pannel. In order for a mac to be a client, you need the tardis chooser extention. You should be able to get the mac software by anonymous ftp to the University of Melbourne, Australia (forgot the address). The tardis client allows you to set the date on every boot, plus once a day at a specified hour, if you desire to. Hope this helps, Bye, Yannai. -- Yannai A. Gonczarowski System Administrator yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il The Hebrew University High School http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/~yannaigo/ "Do you want to know something? Everybody's human." "I find that remark insulting." - Kirk and Spock, "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered contry", stardate 9529.1 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jun 24 10:06:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id KAA27849; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 10:06:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA27844; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 10:06:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA09143; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 10:06:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA09131; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 10:06:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from holstein.nmrfam.wisc.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA09116; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 10:06:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [144.92.18.230] (pressure.nmrfam.wisc.edu [144.92.18.230]) by holstein.nmrfam.wisc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA04876; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 09:06:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199706241406.JAA04876@holstein.nmrfam.wisc.edu> Subject: Re: AppleshareIP Date: Tue, 24 Jun 97 09:07:08 -0500 x-sender: kprehoda@students.wisc.edu x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Ken Prehoda To: "Conner" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On 6/23/97 7:09 PM, Conner wrote: >Good morning. I just subscribed to the list about twenty seconds ago, so >please forgive me if this is previously-covered territory. > >What are the plans for support of Appleshare over tcp/ip? The client will >be bundled with the next MacOS release, which is about three weeks away. >There is a version of KA-Share (Xinet's commercial product for Irix) >which supports it available now. While I feel that netatalk is an >inherently superior method, I think that this protocol change will >represent a huge performance increase; probably enough to induce me to go >with a commercial product running on a platform I dislike. Please, >someone tell me that netatalk will also support this very shortly, and >save me from having to make the less pleasant decision? I have recently joined the list with the same hope. When I searched through the archive of messages to this list, I found the following message which looks like just what I was looking for. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to get it to work on a Pentium Pro, RedHat linux 2.0.30 system. I emailed the author and haven't heard anything yet. Let me know if you (or anyone else) knows the secret. And avoid SGI's at all cost! -Ken >From: a sun >Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: alpha AFP/TCP support in netatalk >Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > >i've placed my latest afp/tcp patches for netatalk-1.4b2 in >. you can either get >netatalk-2.0a7.tar.gz, or the patches up to it. i've compiled it on >linux/intel w/ glibc-2 and on linux/axp as well. i've also compiled a >previous snapshot under sunos 4.1.4. let me know if it works for you. > >NB: the 2.0a7 designation is my own and not the official >maintainers. if and when my changes get incorporated into the official >netatalk, numbers are bound to change. > >for those that already have the a6 patches, here's a brief list of >changes: > fixed asp_attentions and server messages > afpd can run as a ddp-only or tcp-only server if desired. > limits volume changed attentions to at most 1/second. > >for those that aren't familiar w/ my netatalk patches, here's a >synopsis of what they do: > afp 2.2 support includes > afp/tcp w/ streaming reads/writes > server messages and notifications > server signatures > large volume support (currently not used by the > macintosh filesystem) > 64-bit clean > random fixes (socket setup, network-byte order blips, and > other things i can't recall) > >my main test machine is somewhat flaky right now due to my running the >latest, greatest linux development kernel. as a consequence, i haven't >been able to do a good benchmark yet. w/ not-so-flaky kernels, i got >between a 1.5-2x speedup. __________________________________________________________________________ Ken Prehoda kenp@nmrfam.wisc.edu Department of Biochemistry http://www.nmrfam.wisc.edu/ University of Wisconsin-Madison Tel: 608-263-9498 420 Henry Mall, Madison, WI 53706 Fax: 608-262-3759 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jun 24 11:28:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id LAA00572; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 11:28:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA00568; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 11:27:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA12133; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 11:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA12117; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 11:27:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lnx.url.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA12086; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 11:27:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lnx.url.de (mego@lnx.url.de [195.27.26.1]) by lnx.url.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA05169 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 17:27:29 +0200 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 17:27:28 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andreas Pieper To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: AppleshareIP In-Reply-To: <199706241406.JAA04876@holstein.nmrfam.wisc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Ken Prehoda wrote: > On 6/23/97 7:09 PM, Conner wrote: > > >Good morning. I just subscribed to the list about twenty seconds ago, so > >please forgive me if this is previously-covered territory. > > > >What are the plans for support of Appleshare over tcp/ip? The client will ... > I have recently joined the list with the same hope. When I searched > through the archive of messages to this list, I found the following > message which looks like just what I was looking for. Unfortunately, I ... I also tried this 2.0a.. version and besides nbp_register being broken, I was able to mount a server volume on the mac (via tcp/ip). Unfortunately, when double-clicking the, the connection broke ("... unexpectedly closed..."). Dragging a file onto the volume icon worked, though (and fast!) aaaa Andreas Pieper http://www.icf.de/mego/ Mego Berlin mailto:mego@url.de From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jun 24 12:52:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id MAA03676; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:52:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA03672; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:52:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA04343; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:52:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA04338; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:52:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from york.interport.net by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA04300; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:52:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from interport.net (cyerkes@madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by york.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12223 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:52:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from cyerkes@localhost) by interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07328 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:52:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706241652.MAA07328@interport.net> Subject: Re: Can someone setup a digest for this list? To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:52:13 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <199706232348.TAA11968@bioserver.bio.mtu.edu> from "Edan Idzerda" at Jun 23, 97 07:48:52 pm From: chuck+na@yerkes.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu It is claimed, but unverified, that Mario Klebsch DG1AM wrote: [...] > > Now that the traffic on this list has skyrocketed, I'd greatly > > prefer to get a daily digest of the messages rather than receive > > each one individually. Could one of the list maintainers please > > set up this option? > > What about starting the procedure to create a newsgroup? This > mailinglist does proof that there is enough traffic for a newsgroup. No, it isn't even close. If I got 100 messages/day, MAYBE. Subscribe to the firewalls list to get an idea of an active mail list. Use filters to put it into a separate folder. Or start using news:comp.protocols.appletalk. I just don't want to open this up to the huge amount of SPAM that a newsgroup gets (and the question from people that are utterly off-topic but vaguely related to serving Appletalk. A digest would be nice. chuck From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jun 24 13:10:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id NAA05672; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 13:10:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA05667; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 13:10:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA25514; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 13:10:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA25506; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 13:10:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dallas-cs-000.novare.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA25490; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 13:10:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from muggles (mark@muggles.novare.net [205.229.105.72]) by dallas-cs-000.novare.net (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA24529 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:20:27 -0500 Message-ID: <33B002DA.19E2BE45@novare.net> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 12:24:42 -0500 From: m* Organization: Novare' International Information Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu stats: Debian kernel version 2.0.27 netatalk version: 1.3.3-4 primary use of netatalk services is our art department using Adobe Pagemaker ( i know, Pagemaker is not designed as a network app, and maybe this is the problem, or at least a contributing factor ) and Illustrator. excerpt from inter-office comm: " The problem she is having (the problem we're all having), is that sometimes the server gets confused about file types while you're copying so that your just finished perfect PageMaker file looks to the Macintosh like a big Illustrator file. This is bad. " question: is netatalk corrupting the resource or data fork or could the corruption actually be occurring on the Mac desktops which is then passed on to the server which is just doing it's job and saving the file it was handed? your expertise will be greatly appreciated! mark -- "The Shining One" -- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jun 24 14:15:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id OAA09836; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:15:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA09820; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:15:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA03099; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:15:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA03088; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:15:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumshoe.awenet.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA03063; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:15:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([[UNIX: localhost]]) by gumshoe.awenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA13156; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 11:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 11:15:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "William R. Dickson" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, asun@zoology.washington.edu Subject: Re: AppleshareIP In-Reply-To: <199706241406.JAA04876@holstein.nmrfam.wisc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > >What are the plans for support of Appleshare over tcp/ip? The client will > >be bundled with the next MacOS release, which is about three weeks away. > I have recently joined the list with the same hope. When I searched > through the archive of messages to this list, I found the following > message which looks like just what I was looking for. > > >From: a sun > >Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: alpha AFP/TCP support in netatalk > >Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > > >i've placed my latest afp/tcp patches for netatalk-1.4b2 in > >. you can either get > >netatalk-2.0a7.tar.gz, or the patches up to it. i've compiled it on > >linux/intel w/ glibc-2 and on linux/axp as well. i've also compiled a > >previous snapshot under sunos 4.1.4. let me know if it works for you. The patched version in that directory seems to predate the addition of the netbsd stuff added to netatalk a few weeks back, and the patches themselves won't apply to the netbsd version (most of them do with a little help, but a few won't, and I'm not experienced enough to fix it myself). There's a netbsd-aware version of netatalk 1.4b2 at: ...in case anybody wants to take a crack at making the two work together. There's something wonky about that FTP server, though; I was only able to get file listings by using standard ftp (not ncftp) on an ultrix system (not netbsd), and by using ls (not ls -l or dir). Good luck... -Bill -- William R. Dickson -- Consuming the Earth's limited resources since 1968 wrd@awenet.com <> http://www.halcyon.com/wrd/ <> VNB3T, VSC1T, VSX1T I needed a drink, I needed a lot of life insurance, I needed a vacation, I needed a home in the country. What I had was a coat, a hat, and a gun. I put them on and went out of the room. -Raymond Chandler, "Farewell, My Lovely" From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jun 24 14:57:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id OAA11368; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:57:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA11364; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:57:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA18876; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:57:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA18872; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:57:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news.mtu.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA18864; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:57:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtu.edu (mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08411; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:57:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (bioserver.bio.mtu.edu [141.219.40.72]) by mtu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14677; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:57:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from edan@localhost) by bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (8.6.13/MTU-R1.9) id OAA17061; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:57:17 -0400 From: Edan Idzerda Message-Id: <199706241857.OAA17061@bioserver.bio.mtu.edu> Subject: Re: Does Netatalk allow printer accounting ... To: stefan@promo.de (Stefan Bethke) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:57:16 -0400 (EDT) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: from "Stefan Bethke" at Jun 23, 97 06:56:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP3 *ALPHA*] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Stefan Bethke allegedly said: > netatalk 1.4b2 (or any early version) can neither do print job accounting > nor file copy protection. Though, I personally wouldn't want netatalk to do print job accounting or page counting (well, if it was there...) but I would like to have the ability to *pretend* that I know which user was printing. > Print job accounting is not easy to achieve. Although the Printer Access > Protocol contains provisions for a "password", neither LaserWriter 7.x nor > 8.x make any use of, nor do they provide any user authentication data. No kidding, especially if you'd really like to hold people responsible for pages printed. And while we're vaguely on the subject, has anyone gotten any other printer driver besides LaserWriter 8 to print to a netatalk 1.4b2 papd running under Solaris 2.5? I think the workaround you mentioned concerning afpd writing a utmp/wtmp is a good idea in general, as well. I did some research into a platform-independent print accounting system and came close to what I wanted, but not quite. We're currently using a system called Jake, from Columbia University. I had to make some changes in order to get it to run under Solaris 2, and I've made a number of other changes. But you can get the original distribution and more information from: http://www.columbia.edu/~denmark/resnet96/ Jake requires using an access terminal for each of your limited-access queues. The user selects their job from a menu and then they authenticate themselves on the spot. It's just about the only system that really reduces your security down to the security of their password. As long as you only have jobs going to a single queue, you can get pretty darn reliable page counts. I also looked at http://www.maclaser.com/ http://deathstar.stanford.edu/macauth.html http://info.utas.edu.au/docs/utas/utas88/Cost.Recovery.html http://tarzan.trincoll.edu/printing/pprfaq.html The Stanford one was one of my favorites, but it was essentially Mac only (and cost money). Hope this saves somebody some beating on a search engine. - edan -- Edan Idzerda System Administrator -- Michigan Technological University, Houghton MI From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jun 24 16:03:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id QAA13335; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:03:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA13326; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:03:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA01945; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:03:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA01931; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:03:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA01860; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:03:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id NAA29796; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 13:03:12 -0700 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 13:03:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: Mario Klebsch DG1AM cc: dbatten@batcon.com, mattmc@umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Mac Aliases changing In-Reply-To: <199706232335.BAA19141@charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Mario Klebsch DG1AM wrote: > Hi! > > >If I recall correctly, there are three ways you can refer to a file--path, > >folder id + filename, and file id. While the path reference is consistent > >between mounts of a Netatalk volume, the folder and file id's are not. A > >Finder alias, unfortunately, uses one of the reference methods for which > >Netatalk is inconsistent: each mount of the volume, the alias will point to > >something different. > > But afp does announce, wether the server supports FileIDs or not. And > I would use I-Node numbers as FileIDs. They are constant as long as > the File exists. However unlike real FileIDs, I-Node numbers get > reused. If I remember that thread correctly, the problem is that the folder ID's are inconsistant, and so even w/o FileID support, there's a problem. I think (I've not browsed that source recently) that the problem's that the folder ID's are generated as the directories are walked. I think one commercial package's solution was to just make an extra file in the directory containing its folder id. Thus it'd be permanent. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jun 24 16:06:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id QAA13499; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:06:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id QAA13492; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:06:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id QAA13490; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:06:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA13480; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:06:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706242006.QAA13480@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Stefan Bethke cc: Edan Idzerda , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Does Netatalk allow printer accounting ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 23 Jun 1997 18:56:02 +0200." Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:06:07 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Stefan Bethke > To: Edan Idzerda , netatalk-admins@umich.edu > netatalk 1.4b2 (or any early version) can neither do print job accounting > nor file copy protection. The latter is true, the former is not. You just have to know how to set it up, which requires a lot of lpd and psf/pap/psa knowledge. As a matter of fact, "psa" stands for "PostScript Accounting". I'm sure I've mentioned this on this mailing list. It's not in the man pages, tho. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jun 24 16:10:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id QAA13880; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:10:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA13862; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:10:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA17158; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:10:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA17154; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:10:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dallas-cs-000.novare.net by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA17149; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:10:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from muggles (mark@muggles.novare.net [205.229.105.72]) by dallas-cs-000.novare.net (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA26372 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 15:20:27 -0500 Message-ID: <33B02D0A.168A6D80@novare.net> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 15:24:42 -0500 From: m* Organization: Novare' International Information Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: regarding my 'problem' post Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu someone here remembers seeing a blurb on rebuilding netatalk desktop database ( .AppleDouble ). might someone know where such doco exists? obliged, mark -- "The Shining One" -- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jun 24 16:10:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id QAA13930; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:10:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id QAA13913; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:10:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id QAA13894; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:10:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA13848; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:10:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706242010.QAA13848@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Edan Idzerda cc: stefan@promo.de (Stefan Bethke), netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Does Netatalk allow printer accounting ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:57:16 EDT." <199706241857.OAA17061@bioserver.bio.mtu.edu> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 16:10:06 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Edan Idzerda > To: stefan@promo.de (Stefan Bethke) > Stefan Bethke allegedly said: > > Print job accounting is not easy to achieve. Although the Printer Access > > Protocol contains provisions for a "password", neither LaserWriter 7.x nor > > 8.x make any use of, nor do they provide any user authentication data. > No kidding, especially if you'd really like to hold people responsible > for pages printed. And while we're vaguely on the subject, has anyone > gotten any other printer driver besides LaserWriter 8 to print to a > netatalk 1.4b2 papd running under Solaris 2.5? I don't have old LaserWriter drivers sitting around to try. And I don't think our printing solution is currently working on the latest LaserWriter driver. That said, we have an Extension that traps the PAPOpen call to PDEF 10 and inserts a kerberized login sequence into the PAP stream. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jun 24 17:05:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id RAA16300; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 17:05:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA16291; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 17:05:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA09996; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 17:05:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA09991; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 17:05:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MIT.EDU by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id RAA09976; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 17:05:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from DEPOT.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA23477; Tue, 24 Jun 97 17:05:47 EDT Received: by depot.MIT.EDU (5.x/4.7) id AA26192; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 17:05:45 -0400 Message-Id: <9706242105.AA26192@depot.MIT.EDU> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: AFS, Kerberos for Solaris? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 17:05:45 EDT From: "Thomas H. Grayson" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm running netatalk 1.4b2 under Solaris 2.5.1. When I compiled it with AFS and Kerberos support--which required much makefile hocus-pocus with which I was not too satisfied--I could mount a filesystem, but I would see no files. When I recompiled it without AFS/Kerberos, the files actually showed up. Has anyone successfully compiled netatalk with AFS/Kerberos? If so, could you please share your makefiles and other tips and tricks with me? Tom Grayson From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jun 24 22:11:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id WAA21431; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 22:11:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id WAA21424; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 22:10:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id WAA21422; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 22:10:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id WAA21413; Tue, 24 Jun 1997 22:10:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706250210.WAA21413@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Bill Studenmund cc: Mario Klebsch DG1AM , dbatten@batcon.com, mattmc@umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Mac Aliases changing In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Jun 1997 13:03:11 PDT." Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 22:10:48 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Bill Studenmund > To: Mario Klebsch DG1AM > I think one commercial package's solution was to just make an extra file > in the directory containing its folder id. Thus it'd be permanent. A better solution would be to place a single file at the root of the mounted volume containing, basically, the contents of afpd's directory tree. As a matter of fact, you could get around some of its other short-comings this way as well, e.g. no support for file names > 31 characters. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 25 06:29:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id GAA06426; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:29:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA06422; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:28:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA24687; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:28:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA24684; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:28:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from schubert.promo.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA24678; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:28:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01771; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 12:25:40 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199706242010.QAA13848@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: Your message of "Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:57:16 EDT." <199706241857.OAA17061@bioserver.bio.mtu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 12:28:48 +0200 To: wesley.craig@umich.edu, Edan Idzerda From: Stefan Bethke Subject: Re: Does Netatalk allow printer accounting ... Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 22:10 Uhr +0200 24.06.1997, wesley.craig@umich.edu wrote: >That said, we have an Extension that traps the >PAPOpen call to PDEF 10 and inserts a kerberized login sequence into >the PAP stream. Would you mind to make that INIT, minus Kerberos code, availible? Maybe some kind sould could make a compatible extension from outside the U.S. Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-0 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 25 06:29:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id GAA06470; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:29:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA06463; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:29:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA24767; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA24765; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA24761; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:29:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from schubert.promo.de by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA25528; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:29:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01761; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 12:21:26 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199706242006.QAA13480@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: Your message of "Mon, 23 Jun 1997 18:56:02 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 12:24:34 +0200 To: wesley.craig@umich.edu From: Stefan Bethke Subject: Re: Does Netatalk allow printer accounting ... Cc: Edan Idzerda , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 22:06 Uhr +0200 24.06.1997, wesley.craig@umich.edu wrote: >> From: Stefan Bethke >> To: Edan Idzerda , netatalk-admins@umich.edu > >> netatalk 1.4b2 (or any early version) can neither do print job accounting >> nor file copy protection. > >The latter is true, the former is not. You just have to know how to >set it up, which requires a lot of lpd and psf/pap/psa knowledge. As a >matter of fact, "psa" stands for "PostScript Accounting". I'm sure >I've mentioned this on this mailing list. It's not in the man pages, >tho. > >:wes Sorry, yes, I didn't notice psa. Still neither papd not psf know who has submitted the job, so if you want to hold someone responsible, this ain't no solution, I would think. Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-0 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 25 06:51:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id GAA07522; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:51:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA07518; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:51:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA05152; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:51:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA05150; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:51:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA05141; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:50:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from schubert.promo.de by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA25871; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 06:51:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01819; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 12:42:48 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199706250210.WAA21413@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: Your message of "Tue, 24 Jun 1997 13:03:11 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 12:45:56 +0200 To: wesley.craig@umich.edu, Bill Studenmund From: Stefan Bethke Subject: Re: Mac Aliases changing Cc: Mario Klebsch DG1AM , dbatten@batcon.com, mattmc@umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 4:10 Uhr +0200 25.06.1997, wesley.craig@umich.edu wrote: >> From: Bill Studenmund >> To: Mario Klebsch DG1AM > >> I think one commercial package's solution was to just make an extra file >> in the directory containing its folder id. Thus it'd be permanent. > >A better solution would be to place a single file at the root of the >mounted volume containing, basically, the contents of afpd's directory >tree. As a matter of fact, you could get around some of its other >short-comings this way as well, e.g. no support for file names > 31 >characters. How would you keep that in sync with the real tree? The basic problem is that you have to keep file system meta-information (File ID, Parent ID), which does not fit into the standard Unix file system, somewhere, and keep this information in sync with the meta-information in the file system. The Right Thing To Do would be a VFS module to keep the info where it belongs. Using a hidden file to store the directory ID still has two problems: it is possible that two dirs get the same ID, and locating a dir by its ID. Unless you keep a file at the root of the tree, storing the IDs of all dirs, finding the dir could be quite expensive. Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-0 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 25 07:23:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id HAA08562; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 07:23:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA08558; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 07:23:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA08821; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 07:23:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA08819; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 07:23:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from morgaine.rydnet.lysator.liu.se by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA08815; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 07:23:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (svedja@localhost) by morgaine.rydnet.lysator.liu.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA06167 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 13:23:08 +0200 Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 13:22:09 +0200 (MET DST) From: Dejan Ilic Reply-To: svedja@lysator.liu.se To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Does Netatalk allow printer accounting ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Stefan Bethke wrote: > >> netatalk 1.4b2 (or any early version) can neither do print job accounting > >> nor file copy protection. > > > >The latter is true, the former is not. You just have to know how to > >set it up, which requires a lot of lpd and psf/pap/psa knowledge. As a > >matter of fact, "psa" stands for "PostScript Accounting". I'm sure > >I've mentioned this on this mailing list. It's not in the man pages, > >tho. > > > >:wes > > Sorry, yes, I didn't notice psa. Still neither papd not psf know who has > submitted the job, so if you want to hold someone responsible, this ain't > no solution, I would think. Sorry for a little offtopic question but I have a urgent need need of printer accounting. Is thet any commercial package that does is a) as a separate product or b) as a part of a full system. What Commecial system is the cheapest one the also does printer-accounting ? ===================================================================== Dejan Ilic, Tech Univ. of Linkoping, Sweden Phone: +46-13-473 01 06 Email: svedja@lysator.liu.se Web: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~svedja "I may look like The Devil but i'm an angel deep down in my heart" ===================================================================== [finger -l svedja@lysator.liu.se for public PGP key] From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 25 08:10:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id IAA09685; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:10:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA09679; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:10:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA09816; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:10:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA09814; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:10:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from schubert.promo.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA09810; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:10:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02072; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 14:07:18 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 14:10:26 +0200 To: svedja@lysator.liu.se, netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Stefan Bethke Subject: Re: Does Netatalk allow printer accounting ... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 13:22 Uhr +0200 25.06.1997, Dejan Ilic wrote: >Sorry for a little offtopic question but I have a urgent need need of >printer accounting. Is thet any commercial package that does is a) as a >separate product or b) as a part of a full system. To the best of my knowledge, there are three genuine AFP/PAP products for Unix: - Helios EtherShare, http://www.helios.com/ - IPT uShare, http://www.ipt.com/ - XiNet KAShare, http://www.xinet.com/ I don't know much about uShare and KAShare (well, I happen to work for the German Helios distributor), but EtherShare has an accounting facilitly, logging the number of pages that have been printed (if the printer dos support it!), the size of the job, and some other details. Additionally, EtherShare can be configured to only accept jobs if the Mac sending the job also has an active AFP session to that server. The log then also contains the username the AFP session is authenticated as. Hope this helps, Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-0 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 25 09:52:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id JAA11856; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 09:52:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA11852; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 09:51:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA12949; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 09:51:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA12940; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 09:51:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from moose.webworks.ca by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA12915; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 09:51:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from dinn@localhost) by moose.webworks.ca (8.8.6/8.8.5) id KAA08251 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:51:50 -0300 From: "Michael 'Moose' Dinn" Message-Id: <199706251351.KAA08251@moose.webworks.ca> Subject: Linux and Volumes >2G To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:51:50 -0300 (ADT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Under Linux 2.0.30, Netatalk 1.4b2 reports my 8G disk as being a 2G disk. After a little digging, I found it's using u_long's for the space available on the disk (and in a 32bit machine, that's ~2G max). Does anyone have a patch to fix this, or am I stuck with 6G of free space? -- Michael 'Moose' Dinn | Webworks Worldwide Inc. | dinn@webworks.ca If you have a 1972 Mustang Convertible I want to hear from you! From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 25 13:19:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id NAA17613; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 13:19:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA17609; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 13:19:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA03364; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 13:19:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA03362; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 13:19:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA03358; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 13:19:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA30298; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 09:29:41 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA16171; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199706251709.KAA16171@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: dinn@moose.webworks.ca To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199706251351.KAA08251@moose.webworks.ca> (dinn@moose.webworks.ca) Subject: Re: Linux and Volumes >2G Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Under Linux 2.0.30, Netatalk 1.4b2 reports my 8G disk as being a 2G disk. After a little digging, I found it's using u_long's for the space available on the disk (and in a 32bit machine, that's ~2G max). Does anyone have a patch to fix this, or am I stuck with 6G of free space? pre- afp 2.2, that's all that afp can report. it'll stay that way until you actually dip below 2GB of free space. it's just a reporting thing, so don't worry. you should still be able to use all of that space. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 25 13:35:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id NAA18499; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 13:35:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id NAA18493; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 13:35:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id NAA18488; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 13:35:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA18482; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 13:35:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706251735.NAA18482@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Mac Aliases changing Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 13:35:28 -0400 From: Evan P Cordes Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >From epcordes Wed Jun 25 04:52:06 1997 Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA06009; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 04:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA24880; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 04:51:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA24878; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 04:51:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hk.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA24863; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 04:51:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by hk.net (HKIGS-Gateway) with UUCP id IAA20085; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:49:43 GMT Received: from [192.168.168.139] ([192.168.168.139]) by fontworks.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA00274; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 16:11:16 +0800 Message-Id: <199706250811.QAA00274@fontworks.com> Subject: Re: Mac Aliases changing Date: Wed, 25 Jun 97 16:12:24 +0800 x-sender: joerg@mail x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: J=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=f6rg_Bullmann?= To: , "Bill Studenmund" cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable >> I think one commercial package's solution was to just make an extra file >> in the directory containing its folder id. Thus it'd be permanent. > >A better solution would be to place a single file at the root of the >mounted volume containing, basically, the contents of afpd's directory To have that information in a single file is not very handy in the = long run. If you e.g. move or remove a file using 'mv' or 'rm', you = would leave this database file out of date! The inode number strategy = looks very elegant to me. Why isn't that handled this way in the = current netatalk? A caveat of the inode number approach would be the handling of = deleted files and reused inodes. Suppose file f starts at inode i(f) = and alias a points to f. Then, we delete f and create a new file g. = If this file's first inode i(g) =3D=3D the former i(f), the alias a = automatically would point to it. Isn't that so? Please correct me. Cheers, J=F6rg ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 25 16:10:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id QAA25777; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 16:10:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA25769; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 16:10:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA08672; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 16:10:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA08666; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 16:10:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exon.massart.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA08658; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 16:09:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from paonia@localhost) by exon.massart.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA30362 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 16:09:59 -0400 From: Paonia Ezrine Message-Id: <199706252009.QAA30362@exon.massart.edu> Subject: fddi problem To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 16:09:58 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > I am trying toget netatalk to run on our fddi ring. The machine in > question is happy in every other way expect atalk. It is a linux box > running 2.0.30 and redhat 4.2. Any help or ideas would be great > thanks > paonia > Below is the console log from trying to start it: > > > > [root@ani etc]# ./rc.atalk > > starting appletalk daemons:AppleTalk not up! Child exited with 1. > > atalkdnbp_rgstr: Device or resource busy > > Can't register ani:Workstation@* > > nbp_rgstr: Device or resource busy > > Can't register ani:netatalk@* > > nbprgstr papd afpd afptcpd. > > [root@ani etc]# > > > this is what was in syslog: > > Jun 25 13:30:37 ani atalkd[234]: restart (1.4b2) > > Jun 25 13:30:37 ani atalkd[234]: setifaddr: fddi0: Protocol not supported > > Jun 25 13:30:49 ani papd[244]: restart (1.4b2) > > Jun 25 13:30:49 ani papd[244]: No such printer: lp > > Jun 25 13:30:49 ani papd[244]: printcap problem: lp > > Jun 25 13:30:49 ani afptcpd[248]: afptcpd version 0.1a3 started on TCP port:548 > > Jun 25 13:30:55 ani papd[244]: can't register ani:LaserWriter@* > > Jun 25 13:30:55 ani afpd[246]: Can't register ani:AFPServer@Academic Computing Servers > > > -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | Paonia Ezrine | Mass Art | | paonia@massart.edu | 621 Huntington Ave | | 617-232-1555 ext 357 | Boston, MA 02115 | | 617-566-4034 (fax) | www.massart.edu | +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jun 25 16:25:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id QAA26354; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 16:25:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA26346; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 16:25:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA12419; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 16:25:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA12416; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 16:25:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA12410; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 16:25:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atlantis.csc.umd.edu (rsw@atlantis.csc.umd.edu [129.2.8.129]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA24127; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 16:14:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 16:14:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Randall S. Winchester" To: "Thomas H. Grayson" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: AFS, Kerberos for Solaris? In-Reply-To: <9706242105.AA26192@depot.MIT.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Take a look in: /afs/glue.umd.edu/project/glue/netatalk Randall On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Thomas H. Grayson wrote: : I'm running netatalk 1.4b2 under Solaris 2.5.1. When I compiled it with AFS : and Kerberos support--which required much makefile hocus-pocus with which I : was not too satisfied--I could mount a filesystem, but I would see no files. : When I recompiled it without AFS/Kerberos, the files actually showed up. Has : anyone successfully compiled netatalk with AFS/Kerberos? If so, could you : please share your makefiles and other tips and tricks with me? : : Tom Grayson : : From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 26 02:55:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id CAA15046; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 02:55:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id CAA15037; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 02:55:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA18886; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 02:55:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA18884; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 02:55:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sensor.ifp.uni-stuttgart.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id CAA18879; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 02:55:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gaia (gaia.ifp.uni-stuttgart.de) by sensor.ifp.uni-stuttgart.de with SMTP id AA08143 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 26 Jun 1997 08:59:05 +0200 Message-Id: <33B21277.41C6@ifp.uni-stuttgart.de> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 08:55:51 +0200 From: Monika Sester Organization: Institute of Photogrammetry X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01SGoldC-SGI (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: access to unix devices Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu hi, i wonder whether it is possible to access unix-devices from a macintosh. i'm thinking of using a cdrom connected to a unix machine. any answer ? greetings from stuttgart -moni -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- dr. monika sester -- institut fuer photogrammetrie -- uni-stuttgart geschwister-scholl-strasse 24 -- 70174 stuttgart 0711 121 3384 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 26 04:34:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id EAA20992; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 04:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA20807; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 04:33:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA28889; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 04:33:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA28886; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 04:33:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA28876; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 04:33:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.7.3) id KAA00273; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 10:33:30 +0200 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 10:33:29 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: Paonia Ezrine cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: fddi problem In-Reply-To: <199706252009.QAA30362@exon.massart.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > > Jun 25 13:30:37 ani atalkd[234]: restart (1.4b2) > > > Jun 25 13:30:37 ani atalkd[234]: setifaddr: fddi0: Protocol not supported Isn't that clear enough? Netatalk currently doesn't support fddi-Framing. PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 26 04:37:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id EAA25212; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 04:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA25052; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 04:37:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA05533; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 04:37:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA05531; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 04:37:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA05527; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 04:37:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.7.3) id KAA00297; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 10:37:09 +0200 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 10:37:08 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: Monika Sester cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: access to unix devices In-Reply-To: <33B21277.41C6@ifp.uni-stuttgart.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > i wonder whether it is possible to access unix-devices from a macintosh. > i'm thinking of using a cdrom connected to a unix machine. > > any answer ? Jup, but I'm not sure, whether you may access the Resource-Fork of the CD-ROM, if it's HFS. There is a Linux Kernel-Module out for accessing HFS-Devices, but not currently supporting Resource-Forks in netatalk (AppleDouble)Style. Which kind of Unix do ya think of? PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 26 06:54:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id GAA02086; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 06:54:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA02082; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 06:54:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA17593; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 06:54:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA17590; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 06:54:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id GAA17580; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 06:54:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de (charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de [134.169.36.47]) by dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA14159; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 12:54:10 +0200 Received: by charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA04994; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 12:53:28 +0200 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 12:53:28 +0200 Message-Id: <199706261053.MAA04994@charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de> From: Mario Klebsch DG1AM To: wesley.craig@umich.edu CC: skippy@macro.stanford.edu, dbatten@batcon.com, mattmc@umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199706250210.WAA21413@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> (wesley.craig@umich.edu) Subject: Re: Mac Aliases changing Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! >A better solution would be to place a single file at the root of the >mounted volume containing, basically, the contents of afpd's directory >tree. As a matter of fact, you could get around some of its other >short-comings this way as well, e.g. no support for file names > 31 >characters. IMHO this would lead to some of new problems. The main problem is the single file in the root directory. An aproach with a file in each directory would be better. The main reason is, that you do not have to mount the same directory, each time. You even can mount a directory and its parent as two different volumes on the same or on different machines. So each of these mounts would have its own file in its own root directory, but partly containing information about the same files. It is almost impossible to keep thes files up to date. Keeping them up to date also is a problem, when the same directory is accessable by other means then afp, too. If it is mounted on a PC using smb or directly used by UNIX processes, the files contets will always be outdated. 73, Mario -- Mario Klebsch, DG1AM, M.Klebsch@tu-bs.de +49 531 / 391 - 7457 Institut fuer Robotik und Prozessinformatik der TU Braunschweig Hamburger Strasse 267, 38114 Braunschweig, Germany From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 26 07:32:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id HAA03145; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 07:32:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA03141; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 07:32:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA15786; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 07:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA15784; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 07:32:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id HAA15774; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 07:32:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de (charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de [134.169.36.47]) by dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA14319; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:32:36 +0200 Received: by charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA05061; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:31:53 +0200 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:31:53 +0200 Message-Id: <199706261131.NAA05061@charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de> From: Mario Klebsch DG1AM To: epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199706251735.NAA18482@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> (message from Evan P Cordes on Wed, 25 Jun 1997 13:35:28 -0400) Subject: Re: Mac Aliases changing Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! >A caveat of the inode number approach would be the handling of = >deleted files and reused inodes. Suppose file f starts at inode i(f) = >and alias a points to f. Then, we delete f and create a new file g. = >If this file's first inode i(g) =3D=3D the former i(f), the alias a = >automatically would point to it. Isn't that so? Please correct me. Yes, thats the way it is (or would be). But a sollution could be to use the ctime (cretion time) of the i-node to contruct "unreusable" FileIDs. But it would be another 32 Bit of information, which probably cannot be stored in FileIDs. I just had a look at our local filesystem. The largest Filesystem (2GByte) does have less than 2^20 inodes. This would leave 12 Bits to make the FileIDs unique. My first idea is to use a hash function to reduce the 32 bit ctime to 12 bit. Of course, this does not scale well, so at least the number of ctime bits should automagicly adapt to the exported filesystem. But the inode aproach does have problems. Althoug UNIX internally does all file accesses using inodes, the system call interface does not provide any means to use inodes to access files. So accessing a file by inode is expensive (if done in user space). NFS server typically run inside the kernel, and so they can access the files using the inode number. So this aproach probably would have to be implemented in kernel, to be efficient. Another problem is the fact, that the inode numbers are only uniqe on the UNIX volumes. But netatalk does not export a UNIX volume, but a UNIX directory tree, which can contain multiple volumes all having their own uniqe inode numbers. It all leads to the conclusion, that the 32 Bit FileID is a major problem of scalability. NFS file handels are much longer than 32 bit. They are large enough to hold the information needed to locate the files on the server. 73, Mario -- Mario Klebsch, DG1AM, M.Klebsch@tu-bs.de +49 531 / 391 - 7457 Institut fuer Robotik und Prozessinformatik der TU Braunschweig Hamburger Strasse 267, 38114 Braunschweig, Germany From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 26 07:35:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id HAA03286; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 07:35:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA03280; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 07:35:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA16159; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 07:35:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA16157; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 07:35:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lnx.url.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA16130; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 07:34:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lnx.url.de (mego@lnx.url.de [195.27.26.1]) by lnx.url.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA15928; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:34:42 +0200 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:34:42 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andreas Pieper To: Patrik Schindler cc: Monika Sester , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: access to unix devices In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Patrik Schindler wrote: > > i wonder whether it is possible to access unix-devices from a macintosh. > > i'm thinking of using a cdrom connected to a unix machine. > > > > any answer ? > > Jup, but I'm not sure, whether you may access the Resource-Fork of the > CD-ROM, if it's HFS. There is a Linux Kernel-Module out for accessing > HFS-Devices, but not currently supporting Resource-Forks in netatalk > (AppleDouble)Style. > Which kind of Unix do ya think of? I had a hfs module for Linux working together with netatalk a while ago (I dont need it now, so I dumped it). Its called "hfs.o", information can be found here: http://www-sccm.stanford.edu/Students/hargrove/HFS/ sleta!! aa aa Andreas Pieper http://www.icf.de/mego/ Mego Berlin mailto:mego@url.de From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 26 07:38:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id HAA03722; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 07:38:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA03715; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 07:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA24260; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 07:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA24253; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 07:38:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id HAA24247; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 07:38:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de (charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de [134.169.36.47]) by dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA14334; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:38:46 +0200 Received: by charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA05066; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:38:03 +0200 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:38:03 +0200 Message-Id: <199706261138.NAA05066@charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de> From: Mario Klebsch DG1AM To: monika.sester@ifp.uni-stuttgart.de CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <33B21277.41C6@ifp.uni-stuttgart.de> (message from Monika Sester on Thu, 26 Jun 1997 08:55:51 +0200) Subject: Re: access to unix devices Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! >i wonder whether it is possible to access unix-devices from a macintosh. >i'm thinking of using a cdrom connected to a unix machine. You cannot access UNIX devices from the mac, but you can access the UNIX filesystem from a mac using an afp server on the UNIX sastem. However to access a CDROM, it has to be monted on the UNIX machine. This probably can be done with ISO CDROMs and with MS-DOS CDROMs, but probably not with Mac CDROMs. 73, Mario -- Mario Klebsch, DG1AM, M.Klebsch@tu-bs.de +49 531 / 391 - 7457 Institut fuer Robotik und Prozessinformatik der TU Braunschweig Hamburger Strasse 267, 38114 Braunschweig, Germany From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 26 08:53:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id IAA05406; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 08:53:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id IAA05403; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 08:53:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with X.500 id IAA05400; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 08:53:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA05355; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 08:53:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706261253.IAA05355@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Stefan Bethke cc: Bill Studenmund , Mario Klebsch DG1AM , dbatten@batcon.com, mattmc@umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Mac Aliases changing In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 25 Jun 1997 12:45:56 +0200." Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 08:53:11 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Stefan Bethke > To: wesley.craig@umich.edu, Bill Studenmund > How would you keep that in sync with the real tree? You'd have a simple database that several afpd's could modify at once. The first few routines in etc/afpd/directory.c would need to be modified. The format could be very similar to a Unix directory, with free extents, etc. If a Unix file got deleted with "rm", then the database would be modified by the first afpd to notice the discrepency. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 26 08:55:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id IAA05501; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 08:55:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA05480; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 08:55:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA14990; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 08:55:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA14986; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 08:55:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aeppel.gmd.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA14971; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 08:54:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jc@localhost) by aeppel.gmd.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA13197; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:54:38 +0200 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:54:38 +0200 Message-Id: <199706261254.OAA13197@aeppel.gmd.de> From: Juergen Christoffel To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu CC: mkl@charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de, monika.sester@ifp.uni-stuttgart.de In-reply-to: <199706261138.NAA05066@charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de> (message from Mario Klebsch DG1AM on Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:38:03 +0200) Subject: Re: access to unix devices Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:38:03 +0200 From: Mario Klebsch DG1AM However to access a CDROM, it has to be monted on the UNIX machine. This probably can be done with ISO CDROMs and with MS-DOS CDROMs, but probably not with Mac CDROMs. It definitely can be done. Apple's own AIX based servers can and SGI's too can mount Macintosh format CD-ROMs and if you can install netatalk there, you have a CD-ROM server. And of course Linux can do it: see Paul Hargrove's hfs_fs; http://www-sccm.Stanford.EDU/~hargrove/HFS/ for details. I'm running a Linux based Appleshare server here at GMD and thanks to netatalk and hfs_fs it happily serves a dozen Macintosh CD-ROMs to its clients. --jc -- E-Mail: christoffel@gmd.de or one of {ftp,news,web}master@gmd.de GMD - German National Research Center for Information Technology Superstition brings bad luck. -- Raymond Smullyan From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 26 08:57:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id IAA05855; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 08:57:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA05833; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 08:57:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA06153; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 08:57:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA06149; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 08:57:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id IAA06139; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 08:57:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de (charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de [134.169.36.47]) by dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA15139; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:56:36 +0200 Received: by charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA05298; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:55:53 +0200 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:55:53 +0200 Message-Id: <199706261255.OAA05298@charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de> From: Mario Klebsch DG1AM To: wesley.craig@umich.edu CC: stefan@promo.de, skippy@macro.stanford.edu, dbatten@batcon.com, mattmc@umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199706261253.IAA05355@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> (wesley.craig@umich.edu) Subject: Re: Mac Aliases changing Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >You'd have a simple database that several afpd's could modify at once. >The first few routines in etc/afpd/directory.c would need to be >modified. The format could be very similar to a Unix directory, with >free extents, etc. If a Unix file got deleted with "rm", then the >database would be modified by the first afpd to notice the >discrepency. Sounds much better that the aproach with the singel file in the root directory. To check for file removal (and creation or renaming) you could store (and check) the directories mtime in the database. Reading the directory is only necessary, when it has changed. 73, Mario -- Mario Klebsch, DG1AM, M.Klebsch@tu-bs.de +49 531 / 391 - 7457 Institut fuer Robotik und Prozessinformatik der TU Braunschweig Hamburger Strasse 267, 38114 Braunschweig, Germany From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 26 09:26:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id JAA07673; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 09:26:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA07669; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 09:26:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA25700; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 09:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA25692; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 09:26:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from v-connect.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA25664; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 09:26:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by conngw.v-connect.com id <20481>; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 15:41:58 +0000 X-Sender: thomas@mail.v-connect.com In-Reply-To: <199706261255.OAA05298@charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de> References: <199706261253.IAA05355@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> (wesley.craig@umich.edu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:23:54 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Thomas Lamy Subject: Re: Mac Aliases changing Message-Id: <97Jun26.154158gmt.20481@conngw.v-connect.com> Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >>You'd have a simple database that several afpd's could modify at once. >>The first few routines in etc/afpd/directory.c would need to be >>modified. The format could be very similar to a Unix directory, with >>free extents, etc. If a Unix file got deleted with "rm", then the >>database would be modified by the first afpd to notice the >>discrepency. > >Sounds much better that the aproach with the singel file in the root >directory. To check for file removal (and creation or renaming) you >could store (and check) the directories mtime in the database. Reading >the directory is only necessary, when it has changed. > I've followed the discussion for some time, and I think Helios (Ethershare)= has done "the right thing" in this case: =46irst, they have a single database for each volume, .Desktop, holding= APPL-Signatures, Icons, and the file- and directory id database. This db is= managed by a single process, called desksrv. The afp server processes= communicate with the desksrv via RPCs. Second, they have the id of each file/directory stored in a file named ".rsr= c/". This is to reduce RPC overhead, as afp servers= open this file anyway to get the finder information, and to rebuild the= desktop database if it became corrupted. I'm working on this approach inside netatalk for 3 moths now (in my spare= time, which is not that much :-() Thomas Thomas Lamy Vision Connect GmbH Telefon: (089) 356256-= 35 Database Development Division Taunusstra=DFe 51 Telefax: (089) 35625= 6-56 mailto:thomas@v-connect.com 80807 M=FCnchen http://www.v-connect= =2Ecom/ From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 26 10:13:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id KAA09189; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 10:13:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA09185; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 10:13:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA14026; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 10:13:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA13994; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 10:13:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gandalf.cc.purdue.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA13979; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 10:13:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gandalf.cc.purdue.edu (jrj@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gandalf.cc.purdue.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id JAA17307; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 09:13:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199706261413.JAA17307@gandalf.cc.purdue.edu> To: Mario Klebsch DG1AM cc: epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Mac Aliases changing In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:31:53 +0200." <199706261131.NAA05061@charlie.rob.cs.tu-bs.de.cs.tu-bs.de> Reply-to: jrj@cc.purdue.edu Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 09:13:21 -0500 From: "John R. Jackson" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >.... But a sollution could be to >use the ctime (cretion time) of the i-node ... Not to start an argument, and a little off the subject, but there is no such thing as "creation time" stored in a Unix i-node. The "ctime" field holds the time the i-node was last **changed**, e.g. with "chmod". There is no way to determine when an i-node was created by looking at it. The "ctime" field has confused and annoyed legions of programmers, administrators and users for years. More to the point of this discussion, ctime would not make a good "uniquifier" because it can change during the liftime of an object just like almost everything else in the i-node. >73, Mario JJ From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 26 13:59:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id NAA21422; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:59:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA21416; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:58:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA05823; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:58:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA05815; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:58:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norway.it.earthlink.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA05798; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 13:58:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.0.100] (pool006-max9.pasadena-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net [207.217.24.81]) by norway.it.earthlink.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05631; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 10:58:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: alsplace-1#LosAngeles01.pop.internex.net@10.0.0.10 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <33B21277.41C6@ifp.uni-stuttgart.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 10:59:35 -0700 To: Monika Sester , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Alex.Alegado@norway.it.earthlink.net (alex@alsplace.com) Subject: Re: access to unix devices Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 8.55 +0200 06.26.97, Monika Sester wrote: >hi, >i wonder whether it is possible to access unix-devices from a macintosh. >i'm thinking of using a cdrom connected to a unix machine. > >any answer ? Sure you can. Mountable block devices like hard disk drives can be accessed by a Mac if the Mac can speak NFS (and if you have NFS software on your Unix box). Intercon and Thursby both make NFS clients for MacOS that let you access any NFS volumes through the Chooser--you get a nice little icon on the desktop which resembles an AFP networked volume. If you're feeling frisky, you can get MachTen from Tenon Systems. This is a full-blown Unix clone that runs under MacOS. If includes NFS client software for your MacOS-only machines. MachTen lets you implement a full-blown Internet server using a Mac so you get web, ftp, telnet, dns, et al. ========================================================================== Alex Alegado, Sysadmin, Digital Imaging Systems Div., Bert-Co Graphics Work: 213.669.5737 213.953.6993 Fax 213.350.0839 Pgr (PIN# 82239) Home: 818.572.4305 818.618.6735 Cel -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Page me via EMail! Send your msg to 8182923012.82239@pagenet.net | 240char or page me via the Web: Visit http://www.pagenet.com/sendpage/ | maximum -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit my Internet playground at http://www.webcom.com/alsplace Home of the "I Love Sandra Bullock", the "I Love Christina Ricci Too", and the "Jennifer Aniston is in the House" Web Pages. ========================================================================== From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 26 14:53:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id OAA22719; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:53:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA22715; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:53:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA29663; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:53:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA29638; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:53:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from york.interport.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA29576; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from interport.net (cyerkes@madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by york.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25280; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:53:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from cyerkes@localhost) by interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA18707; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:53:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706261853.OAA18707@interport.net> Subject: Re: access to unix devices To: Alex.Alegado@norway.it.earthlink.net Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 14:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Cc: monika.sester@ifp.uni-stuttgart.de, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: from "alex@alsplace.com" at Jun 26, 97 10:59:35 am From: chuck+na@yerkes.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu It is claimed, but unverified, that alex@alsplace.com wrote: > > At 8.55 +0200 06.26.97, Monika Sester wrote: > >hi, > >i wonder whether it is possible to access unix-devices from a macintosh. > >i'm thinking of using a cdrom connected to a unix machine. > > > >any answer ? Er, have you tried mounting the CD on the Unix box and 'exporting' it with netatalk (I assume you want to use netatalk, given this list) [...] > If you're feeling frisky, you can get MachTen from Tenon Systems. This is a > full-blown Unix clone that runs under MacOS. What *is* a Unix clone? Is this like the X-Window 'emulators' that run on Macs and PCs (I guess they don't use X-Window protocol, they just act like they do). MachTen is Unix. They might not have ponied up the $$ to Novell? SCO? X-Open? whoever owns the Unix word today. (and who'd have imagined it might be Novell or SCO!). MachTen's a bit odd - almost BSD, but not quite. I've found it useful - it essentially replaces the MacOS scheduler and slices between Unix processes and running MacOS. Let's me telnet to a mac, which it key when supporting it from another country. It will likely die when MacOS runs on NeXTStep - which is also Unix (or die if Apple goes away). > It includes NFS client > software for your MacOS-only machines. MachTen lets you implement a > full-blown Internet server using a Mac so you get web, ftp, telnet, > dns, et al. The complexity of Unix with the instability of MacOS! Try it with netatalk - it just "exports" pieces of the filetree, not caring whence they come. The dual fork/.Appledouble issue will be a problem. What's the plan for NeXTMac? Does this get to (finally) go away? If you really want Unix, NetBSD/OpenBSD and mkLinux are worthy - though you can't run MacOS stuff at the same time. chuck From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 26 15:50:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id PAA24451; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 15:50:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA24443; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 15:50:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA24060; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 15:50:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA24056; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 15:50:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA24039; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 15:50:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id MAA21832; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 12:50:30 -0700 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 12:50:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: Patrik Schindler cc: Monika Sester , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: access to unix devices In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Patrik Schindler wrote: > > i wonder whether it is possible to access unix-devices from a macintosh. > > i'm thinking of using a cdrom connected to a unix machine. > > > > any answer ? > > Jup, but I'm not sure, whether you may access the Resource-Fork of the > CD-ROM, if it's HFS. There is a Linux Kernel-Module out for accessing > HFS-Devices, but not currently supporting Resource-Forks in netatalk > (AppleDouble)Style. > Which kind of Unix do ya think of? Last time I looked, which was almost a year ago, Paul Hargrove's hfs module did support netatalk resource forks. You just have to use a mount option to choose between non, netatalk, CAP, and AppleSingle (?) format. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 26 17:36:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id RAA28333; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 17:36:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA28319; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 17:36:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA29572; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 17:36:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA29565; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 17:36:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from luxbbs.itserve.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA29524; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 17:36:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from davidhspc.atlanta.itserve.com ([155.229.86.45]) by luxbbs.itserve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA18870; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 17:38:44 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199706261853.OAA18707@interport.net> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 17:25:44 -0400 (EDT) Organization: Imaging Technologies From: David Hamm To: chuck+na@yerkes.com Subject: Re: access to unix devices Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, monika.sester@ifp.uni-stuttgart.de, Alex.Alegado@norway.it.earthlink.net Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I can help you do what you are asking about if you are using Linux. I have a server in a service buearu and we mount Mac cdroms in the Linux box quite often because some of our Macs don't have cdroms in them. >It is claimed, but unverified, that alex@alsplace.com wrote: >> >> At 8.55 +0200 06.26.97, Monika Sester wrote: >> >hi, >> >i wonder whether it is possible to access unix-devices from a macintosh. >> >i'm thinking of using a cdrom connected to a unix machine. >> > >> >any answer ? > >Er, have you tried mounting the CD on the Unix box and 'exporting' it >with netatalk (I assume you want to use netatalk, given this list) > >[...] >> If you're feeling frisky, you can get MachTen from Tenon Systems. This is a >> full-blown Unix clone that runs under MacOS. >What *is* a Unix clone? Is this like the X-Window 'emulators' that run >on Macs and PCs (I guess they don't use X-Window protocol, they just >act like they do). > >MachTen is Unix. They might not have ponied up the $$ to Novell? SCO? >X-Open? whoever owns the Unix word today. (and who'd have imagined it >might be Novell or SCO!). > >MachTen's a bit odd - almost BSD, but not quite. I've found it useful >- it essentially replaces the MacOS scheduler and slices between Unix >processes and running MacOS. Let's me telnet to a mac, which it key >when supporting it from another country. > > It will likely die when MacOS runs on NeXTStep - which is also Unix >(or die if Apple goes away). > >> It includes NFS client >> software for your MacOS-only machines. MachTen lets you implement a >> full-blown Internet server using a Mac so you get web, ftp, telnet, >> dns, et al. > >The complexity of Unix with the instability of MacOS! > >Try it with netatalk - it just "exports" pieces of the filetree, not >caring whence they come. The dual fork/.Appledouble issue will be a >problem. > > What's the plan for NeXTMac? Does this get to (finally) go away? > >If you really want Unix, NetBSD/OpenBSD and mkLinux are worthy - though >you can't run MacOS stuff at the same time. > >chuck ------ David Hamm - dhamm@itserve.com -------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 26 19:27:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id TAA02336; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 19:27:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA02332; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 19:27:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA28244; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 19:27:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA28242; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 19:27:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.saratoga.award.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA28237; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 19:27:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [38.168.77.72] (hugo.saratoga.award.com [38.168.77.72]) by www.saratoga.award.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA03046 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 16:28:10 -0700 Message-Id: <199706262328.QAA03046@www.saratoga.award.com> Subject: netatalk 1.4b2 and Mac OS 8 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 97 16:31:30 -0700 x-sender: jco@mail.saratoga.award.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Jay To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Has anyone tried running netatlk and accessing it from a Mac OS 8 client? I'm having problems with files on a netatalk (1.4b2 on Linux 2.0.28) server disappearing & reappearing in the Mac OS 8 Finder. The probability of this happening increases with large directories (several hundered files), but isn't limited to occurring with large directories. I've seen it happen with a directory with as few as seven items. Before submitting this to netatalk@umich.edu, I wanted to find out if anyone else has tried this and has (or hasn't) seen this behavior. BTW, I'm running Mac OS 8.0f5. Jay O'Conor jco@saratoga.award.com From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 26 19:44:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id TAA03210; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 19:44:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA03205; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 19:44:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA02214; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 19:44:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA02212; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 19:44:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumshoe.awenet.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA02202; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 19:44:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([[UNIX: localhost]]) by gumshoe.awenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA14924; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 16:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 16:44:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "William R. Dickson" To: Jay cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: netatalk 1.4b2 and Mac OS 8 In-Reply-To: <199706262328.QAA03046@www.saratoga.award.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 26 Jun 1997, Jay wrote: > Has anyone tried running netatlk and accessing it from a Mac OS 8 client? > I'm having problems with files on a netatalk (1.4b2 on Linux 2.0.28) > server disappearing & reappearing in the Mac OS 8 Finder. The > probability of this happening increases with large directories (several > hundered files), but isn't limited to occurring with large directories. > I've seen it happen with a directory with as few as seven items. > Before submitting this to netatalk@umich.edu, I wanted to find out if > anyone else has tried this and has (or hasn't) seen this behavior. BTW, > I'm running Mac OS 8.0f5. So far, I haven't seen this with 8.0b5. If I can duplicate it, I'll let you know. -Bill -- William R. Dickson -- Consuming the Earth's limited resources since 1968 wrd@awenet.com <> http://www.halcyon.com/wrd/ <> VNB3T, VSC1T, VSX1T It is impossible to travel faster than light, and certainly not desirable, as one's hat keeps blowing off. - Woody Allen From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 26 22:17:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id WAA05803; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 22:17:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id WAA05799; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 22:17:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA24961; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 22:17:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA24959; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 22:17:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.mel.aone.net.au by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id WAA24955; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 22:17:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (d58-1.cpe.Sydney.aone.net.au [203.12.186.58]) by mail.mel.aone.net.au (8.6.13/8.6.11) with SMTP id MAA08761 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:17:35 +1000 Message-Id: <199706270217.MAA08761@mail.mel.aone.net.au> Subject: Re: netatalk 1.4b2 and Mac OS 8 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 97 12:23:38 +1000 x-sender: ur018119@mail01.syd.aone.net.au x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0 x49, February 10, 1997 From: Carl Olsen To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have exactly the same problem with all the versions of Mac OS 8 that I have tried. >Has anyone tried running netatlk and accessing it from a Mac OS 8 client? >I'm having problems with files on a netatalk (1.4b2 on Linux 2.0.28) >server disappearing & reappearing in the Mac OS 8 Finder. The >probability of this happening increases with large directories (several >hundered files), but isn't limited to occurring with large directories. >I've seen it happen with a directory with as few as seven items. >Before submitting this to netatalk@umich.edu, I wanted to find out if >anyone else has tried this and has (or hasn't) seen this behavior. BTW, >I'm running Mac OS 8.0f5. > > >Jay O'Conor >jco@saratoga.award.com > +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | CARL OLSEN Email: colsen@ozemail.com.au | | Key Software Pty. Ltd. Phone: +61-4-1117-3004 (Mobile) | | Database & Network Consultants Fax: +61-2-9398-4294 | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jun 26 22:32:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id WAA06327; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 22:32:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id WAA06322; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 22:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA28812; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 22:32:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA28810; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 22:32:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fen.baynet.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA28802; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 22:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Abarrach.evendim.world (root@dialin-er-42.fen.baynet.de [194.95.193.106]) by fen.baynet.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02382 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 04:31:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from rdschulz@localhost) by Abarrach.evendim.world (8.8.3/8.8.5) id DAA18392 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 03:23:10 +0200 From: Roland Schulz Message-Id: <199706270123.DAA18392@Abarrach.evendim.world> Subject: Changing Aliases ... and how to fix? To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 03:22:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi ... I have been away for some days so I could not respond earier... but since the recent discussions in linux-atalk showed that there is a wide interest in this topic I'd like to comment on some ideas mentioned here ... I will talk about DIDs (directory ids) a lot, since these are the ones where the problems start, the file-ids are not so much of a problem since they're not used to lookup a file when an alias is resolved. I made a few changes to 1.3.3 and later to 1.4b2 to support aliases with certain restrictions, notably one mountpoint/volume, which I can mail to interested folks that can live with this restriction. > >A better solution would be to place a single file at the root of the > >mounted volume containing, basically, the contents of afpd's directory > > To have that information in a single file is not very handy in the = > long run. If you e.g. move or remove a file using 'mv' or 'rm', you = > would leave this database file out of date! The inode number strategy = > looks very elegant to me. Why isn't that handled this way in the = > current netatalk? To have it distributed over the filesystem would be equally bad, imagine this: a directory is created and assigned it's DID. Now someones copies (on the unix side) the directory someplace else. This way the new and the old dir would have an equal DID. Now what? Keep in mind that we don't have a creation date on unix to see which dir is older. As with the database getting out of sync: one must always consider inconsistencies in a caching situation, and a single database would be a cache of some sort. The above situation could be easily solved with the single database since it has one entry for the DID, and the other will not have one, so it can be assigned a new DID. Even if you use inodes as DIDs, you cannot avoid the central database file since: > But the inode aproach does have problems. Althoug UNIX internally does > all file accesses using inodes, the system call interface does not > provide any means to use inodes to access files. So accessing a file > by inode is expensive (if done in user space). NFS server typically > run inside the kernel, and so they can access the files using the > inode number. So this aproach probably would have to be implemented in > kernel, to be efficient. Not necessarily. This is where central database file in the volumes root comes into play. This file is a simple array indexed by inode that provides for each Mac-created or Mac-visited directory the inode number of its parent. The file is mmapped by each afpd and updates are made directly when a dir is created/removed/moved. If a directory is created from the unix side, the inconsistency does not matter at all, since no mac can have an alias pointing to this directory. If it is created by a Mac, the file is updated, so aliases work. One problem with this approach is that it cannot detect when a dir is deleted and then recreated, getting the same inode as the old dir, which is a very common case. > A caveat of the inode number approach would be the handling of = > deleted files and reused inodes. Suppose file f starts at inode i(f) = > and alias a points to f. Then, we delete f and create a new file g. = > If this file's first inode i(g) =3D=3D the former i(f), the alias a = > automatically would point to it. Isn't that so? Please correct me. This is the case. You must choose yourself if you can live with it. > Another problem is the fact, that the inode numbers are only uniqe on > the UNIX volumes. But netatalk does not export a UNIX volume, but a > UNIX directory tree, which can contain multiple volumes all having > their own uniqe inode numbers. This problem is only one of the many resulting from using the inode as directory-ID. A recent post in linux-atalk was about using a hash on the complete filename instead to create the DID. One would need a database with DID->filename mappings, though. But this database would be host-wide and could be updated centrally, or shared between afpds via mmap, but careful synchronisation would be necessary to prevent substantial performance degradation. This looks very promising and has the potential to solve many problems of the inode-oriented approach. It has certain drawbacks, too, since it places more weight on the database file. With the inode-approach, the database can be regenerated without problems at all since no data is lost. With the hashed name, hash collisions cannot be rebuilt correctly every time, so one would need to store the hash value somewhere where it can be recreated. Or one could argue that the few cases of collisions in a 2^^31 range are rare enough to risk their aliases getting lost. > >You'd have a simple database that several afpd's could modify at once. > >The first few routines in etc/afpd/directory.c would need to be > >modified. The format could be very similar to a Unix directory, with > >free extents, etc. If a Unix file got deleted with "rm", then the > >database would be modified by the first afpd to notice the > >discrepency. > Sounds much better that the aproach with the singel file in the root > directory. To check for file removal (and creation or renaming) you > could store (and check) the directories mtime in the database. Reading > the directory is only necessary, when it has changed. But the file in the volume root is outstanding performace-wise. Since it is just an array of ints, it can be accessed by single uninterruptible reads and writes or even by normal access on non-smp systems when the file is mmapped. No lock need be kept and no process need to sleep while waiting for another since all transactions are atomic. Compare this with a solution which would need semaphores, even IPC to resolve an alias (not so big a deal) and when an inconsistency is detected (on EVERY write to the server!) These arguments reveal again that the idea of keeping a DID for more than the duration of one session is a fundamental flaw in Appletalk. If one could force the Mac to resolve an alias not with it's DID/filename pair first but with it's real filepath (which IS stored in the alias, but only used when the DID lookup fails, accompanied by an annoying requester which just states that the alias has changed) these problems could be solved in one swift strike. Does someone here have a suggestion how this could be affected? Roland Schulz fi111@fen.baynet.de "Life, loathe it or ignore it, you can't like it." -- Marvin, "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 00:08:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id AAA10577; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 00:08:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id AAA10524; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 00:08:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA28401; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 00:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA28396; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 00:07:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id AAA28381; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 00:07:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA08033; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 20:16:57 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA25241; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 20:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 20:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199706270357.UAA25241@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: mfreeman@iglou.com, everette_allen@ncsu.edu, joakim.ahlen@mediaprint.se, greg@smithphoto.com, halset@pvv.ntnu.no, hannu@ddbn.ee, kateley@apple.com, jwa@jammed.com, mbbecker@mail.deforest.k12.wi.us, chandhok@within.com, netatalk@umich.edu, brasherj@zoology.washington.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu, appleshareip@private.lists.apple.com, wrstuden@loki.stanford.edu, richardk@iprolink.co.nz, kenp@nmrfam.wisc.edu, schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov, mego@url.de Subject: netatalk-2.0a8 available for testing Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu my latest patches to netatalk-1.4b2 to enable afp/tcp are available at ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/public/asun. things fixed and added (ah to be backwards compatible!): spontaneous disconnect (due to incorrect assumption of BUFSIZ size) byte-order problem (another incorrect assumption) incorporated netbsd mods added quota support for linux and fixed it for bsd4.4 a few odds and ends that deal w/ compatibility you can either get the 2.0a7-a8.diff.gz patch (apply w/ something like the following: zcat patch | patch -d -p1) or netatalk-2.0a8.tar.gz. if you happen to work on a solaris or ultrix machine, i would appreciate hearing about your experiences w/ the patches. i fear that they may break w/ those machines. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 09:23:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id JAA09481; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 09:23:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA09477; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 09:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA01683; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 09:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA01681; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 09:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from luxbbs.itserve.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA01616; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 09:22:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from davidhspc.atlanta.itserve.com ([155.229.86.45]) by luxbbs.itserve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA23560; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 09:24:36 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.1 [p0] on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199706270357.UAA25241@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 09:07:55 -0400 (EDT) Organization: Imaging Technologies From: David Hamm To: a sun Subject: RE: netatalk-2.0a8 available for testing Cc: mego@url.de, schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov, kenp@nmrfam.wisc.edu, richardk@iprolink.co.nz, wrstuden@loki.stanford.edu, appleshareip@private.lists.apple.com, netatalk-admins@umich.edu, brasherj@zoology.washington.edu, netatalk@umich.edu, chandhok@within.com, mbbecker@mail.deforest.k12.wi.us, jwa@jammed.com, kateley@apple.com, hannu@ddbn.ee, halset@pvv.ntnu.no, greg@smithphoto.com, joakim.ahlen@mediaprint.se, everette_allen@ncsu.edu, mfreeman@iglou.com Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On 27-Jun-97 a sun wrote: > >my latest patches to netatalk-1.4b2 to enable afp/tcp Where can I find out more about aft/tcp and what it can do for me. >ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/public/asun. > >things fixed and added (ah to be backwards compatible!): > spontaneous disconnect (due to incorrect assumption of BUFSIZ > size) > byte-order problem (another incorrect assumption) > incorporated netbsd mods > added quota support for linux and fixed it for bsd4.4 > a few odds and ends that deal w/ compatibility > >you can either get the 2.0a7-a8.diff.gz patch (apply w/ something >like the following: zcat patch | patch -d -p1) or >netatalk-2.0a8.tar.gz. if you happen to work on a solaris or ultrix >machine, i would appreciate hearing about your experiences w/ the >patches. i fear that they may break w/ those machines. > >-a ------ David Hamm - dhamm@itserve.com -------- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 10:02:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id KAA10692; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 10:02:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA10655; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 10:02:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA15051; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 10:02:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA15048; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 10:02:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dosa.digocean.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA15014; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 10:02:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from AKI.DOSA.DIGOCEAN.COM (aki.dosa.digocean.com [207.71.16.34]) by dosa.digocean.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA00887 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 08:59:28 -0500 Message-ID: <33B3C760.ED053465@DigitalOcean.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 09:00:00 -0500 From: "David J. Leach, Jr." Reply-To: dleach@DigitalOcean.com Organization: Digital Ocean, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: NetATalk Admins List Subject: How to kill and restart? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is there a way to kill the netatalk processes and restart them without requiring a reboot of the system? I ran across some documentation that indicates this should be fixed with 1.4 but I haven't seen anything about it in the release notes. David Leach -- ================================================================ David J. Leach, Jr. - Staff Programmer - Digital Ocean, Inc. email: DLeach@DigitalOcean.com web: http://www.dosa.digocean.com/~dleach voice: 210.614.9283 x114 fax: 210.614.8192 ================================================================ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 10:15:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id KAA11230; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 10:15:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA11225; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 10:15:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA19511; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 10:15:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA19505; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 10:15:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from v-connect.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA19492; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 10:15:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by conngw.v-connect.com id <20481>; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 16:30:31 +0000 X-Sender: tl@vision.v-connect.com In-Reply-To: <33B3C760.ED053465@DigitalOcean.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 15:12:27 +0000 To: NetATalk Admins List From: Thomas Lamy Subject: Re: How to kill and restart? Message-Id: <97Jun27.163031gmt.20481@conngw.v-connect.com> Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Is there a way to kill the netatalk processes and restart them without >requiring a reboot of the system? I ran across some documentation that >indicates this should be fixed with 1.4 but I haven't seen anything >about it in the release notes. > >David Leach You simply can't kill off atalkd and restart it. With linux, this is= possible by first killing all netatlk daemons, unloading the appletalk= kernel module, reload it and restarting netatalk. Dunno how to do this on= other systems. Thomas Thomas Lamy Vision Connect GmbH Telefon: (089) 356256-= 35 Database Development Division Taunusstra=DFe 51 Telefax: (089) 35625= 6-56 mailto:thomas@v-connect.com 80807 M=FCnchen http://www.v-connect= =2Ecom/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 10:43:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id KAA12352; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 10:43:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA12348; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 10:43:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA28546; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 10:43:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA28539; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 10:43:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpo.whistle.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA28518; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 10:43:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA16075; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 07:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd016071; Fri Jun 27 14:36:37 1997 Message-ID: <33B3CFA7.42877E5C@whistle.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 07:35:19 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Lamy CC: NetATalk Admins List Subject: Re: How to kill and restart? References: <97Jun27.163031gmt.20481@conngw.v-connect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Thomas Lamy wrote: > > >Is there a way to kill the netatalk processes and restart them without > >requiring a reboot of the system? I ran across some documentation that > >indicates this should be fixed with 1.4 but I haven't seen anything > >about it in the release notes. > > > >David Leach > > You simply can't kill off atalkd and restart it. With linux, this is possible by first killing all netatlk daemons, unloading the appletalk kernel module, reload it and restarting netatalk. Dunno how to do this on other systems. > > Thomas > > Thomas Lamy Vision Connect GmbH Telefon: (089) 356256-35 > Database Development Division Taunusstraße 51 Telefax: (089) 356256-56 > mailto:thomas@v-connect.com 80807 München http://www.v-connect.com/ do a PS to detirmine the afpd parent process (it forks children) then send it a normal kill signal it will shut down all it's children gracefully If you send a SIGHUP it gives them 10 minutes grace, and a popup appears on teh clients to tell them to log off. once the afpds are down then just send a kill signal to atalkd it should clean up pretty well (depending on your OS, it may do a better job on some) then just restart it. In FreeBSD ifconfig ,route and netstat know about netatalk so yu can clean up any thing that migh tbe left behind but there usuallyisn't much if anything. then just restart atalkd and afpd as before.. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 11:01:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id LAA12995; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 11:01:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA12991; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 11:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA06792; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 11:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA06785; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 11:00:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id LAA06780; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 11:00:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tattoo.ed.ac.uk (tattoo.ed.ac.uk [129.215.166.10]) by renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA05358; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 16:00:39 +0100 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 15:59:18 +0100 (BST) From: K J MacDonald To: Julian Elischer cc: Thomas Lamy , NetATalk Admins List Subject: Re: How to kill and restart? In-Reply-To: <33B3CFA7.42877E5C@whistle.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Linux kernels 2.1.4x don't need to have the appletalk module reloaded any more. Many thanks to Alan Cox for this. He says atalkd needs to be patched too, but doesn't remember the location for this patch. Anyone know if it's in the latest releases? Best wishes, Kenny. -- ADML Support, The University of Edinburgh. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 12:03:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id MAA16410; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:03:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA16372; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA25413; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:03:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA25403; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:03:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from holstein.nmrfam.wisc.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA25389; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:03:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [144.92.18.230] (pressure.nmrfam.wisc.edu [144.92.18.230]) by holstein.nmrfam.wisc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA01259 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 11:03:33 -0500 Message-Id: <199706271603.LAA01259@holstein.nmrfam.wisc.edu> Subject: nonpostscript printers using papd? Date: Fri, 27 Jun 97 11:04:08 -0500 x-sender: kprehoda@students.wisc.edu x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Ken Prehoda To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu We have an epson stylus color 800 printer that I'd like to put on the appletalk network using our linux box. One option would be to set it up as a postscript printer using ghostscript and papd. However, I would like to use the Epson driver software so that each user could customize the options and take advantage of different features of the printer. I assume there's no way to do this with papd as it is currently written, but it doesn't seem like it would be that hard. It would have to register the printer on the appletalk network, not as a postscript printer, but as an epson printer that the driver would recongnize. Then it would have to allow bidirectional communication between the printer and the mac. Would this be worthwhile? __________________________________________________________________________ Ken Prehoda kenp@nmrfam.wisc.edu Department of Biochemistry http://www.nmrfam.wisc.edu/ University of Wisconsin-Madison Tel: 608-263-9498 420 Henry Mall, Madison, WI 53706 Fax: 608-262-3759 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 13:05:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id NAA18264; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:05:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA18260; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:05:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA14025; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:04:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA14019; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:04:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA14002; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:04:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.7.3) id TAA18003; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 19:02:56 +0200 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 19:02:56 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: "David J. Leach, Jr." cc: NetATalk Admins List Subject: Re: How to kill and restart? In-Reply-To: <33B3C760.ED053465@DigitalOcean.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Is there a way to kill the netatalk processes and restart them without > requiring a reboot of the system? I ran across some documentation that > indicates this should be fixed with 1.4 but I haven't seen anything > about it in the release notes. Under Linux, you'll have to ifconfig eth0 and lo both down and up with appropriate Parameters (full ifconfig syntax). This will do the job fine. PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 13:15:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id NAA18983; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:15:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA18972; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:15:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA24348; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA24345; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:15:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhub.hitchcock.org by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id NAA24341; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:15:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailbox1.Hitchcock.ORG (MAILBOX1.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.110]) by mailhub.hitchcock.org (8.6.12-DND/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA03696; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:14:58 -0400 Message-id: <10508086@mailbox1.Hitchcock.ORG> Date: 27 Jun 97 13:15:44 EDT From: William.P.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG (William P. McGonigle) Reply-To: Bill.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG Subject: Re: netatalk 1.4b2 and Mac OS 8 To: wrd@awenet.com, jco@saratoga.award.com (Jay) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I had this problem with earlier versions, and reported it as a bug. It seemed to be related to network size. It wouldn't work at work (183 zones) but would work at home (2 zones). Someone else had the same problem at another large university. With F4, it's working for me again. -Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 13:57:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id NAA20713; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:57:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA20703; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:57:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA29148; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:57:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA29140; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:57:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from clri6g.gsi.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id NAA29111; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:57:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by clri6g.gsi.de (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA24672; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 19:57:24 +0200 Message-Id: <33B3FF03.167E@gsi.de> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 19:57:23 +0200 From: Kay Winkler Organization: GSI - Darmstadt X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; AIX 1) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: NetATalk Admins List Subject: Re: How to kill and restart? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Patrik Schindler wrote: > > > Is there a way to kill the netatalk processes and restart them without > > requiring a reboot of the system? I ran across some documentation that > > indicates this should be fixed with 1.4 but I haven't seen anything > > about it in the release notes. > > Under Linux, you'll have to ifconfig eth0 and lo both down and up with > appropriate Parameters (full ifconfig syntax). This will do the job fine. > > PoC It works for me too. And nicely i put the ALT-CTRL-DEL on the script which drives the network down and restarts it imediately. Quiet nice sysadmin and simple usage. Gruss Kay Kay Winkler Planckstrasse 1 D-64291 Darmstadt (49)6159/71-2551 Fax:(49)6159/71-2785 K.Winkler@gsi.de From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 14:47:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id OAA22355; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 14:47:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA22351; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 14:47:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA14813; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 14:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA14807; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 14:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA14802; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 14:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11881; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 10:56:17 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA26070; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 11:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 11:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199706271837.LAA26070@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: kenny@tattoo.ed.ac.uk CC: julian@whistle.com, thomas@v-connect.com, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from K J MacDonald on Fri, 27 Jun 1997 15:59:18 +0100 (BST)) Subject: Re: How to kill and restart? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Linux kernels 2.1.4x don't need to have the appletalk module reloaded any more. Many thanks to Alan Cox for this. He says atalkd needs to be patched too, but doesn't remember the location for this patch. Anyone know if it's in the latest releases? as i'm the one that put in the patch for netatalk, i guess i should speak up. the fixes are in my 2.0a8 sources. you can get them at . 2.1.43 should have the fix. i've also included patches to 2.0.30 and 2.1.42 in sys/linux that you can apply. the patches add in SIOCATALKDIFADDR. you'll need to have a recent libc (5.4.33 should work) or glibc to pick up /usr/include/netatalk/at.h. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 16:42:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id QAA25702; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 16:42:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA25698; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 16:42:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA29331; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 16:42:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA29324; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 16:42:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA29304; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 16:42:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Fri, 27 Jun 1997 22:42:05 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Netatalk hardware requirements? From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 22:42:44 +0200 Message-ID: <19970627224244156458@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: MacSOUP D-2.2.1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I today Installed the latest beta version of Netatalk on a 386 DX33 with 8 MB RAM running Linux 2.0.29 with AppleTalk support enabled. I could register the machine, and it was visible in the chooser of a Mac on the same ethernet. However, when I selected it and tried to open it from the Mac nothing happened (the Mac just gave up after a few seconds). I did not find any error messages in messages or syslog, nor did the debug mode report anything. The PC has a 16 bit ISA NE2000 compatible ethernet card. Other services like ftp, telnet or NFS work flawlessly to that machine. We're using ThinEthernet. Both Mac and PC are "neigbours" on the chain with only about 2m of Ethernet cable between them. Could that be a problem, or is the machine/the ethernet card simply too slow? I then installed Netatalk on a Pentium 100 a few rooms away also running Linux 2.0.29 and having 24 MB RAM and a 16 bit ISA 3COM ethernet card. I used exactly the same setup, but this time, everything went smoothly (so I guess it's not a setup problem; both PCs didn't have any load, BTW). Can NetaTalk run on lowly 386 machines? Thanks. --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 16:56:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id QAA26763; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 16:56:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA26755; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 16:56:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA03296; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 16:56:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA03294; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 16:56:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhub.hitchcock.org by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id QAA03282; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 16:56:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailbox1.Hitchcock.ORG (MAILBOX1.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.110]) by mailhub.hitchcock.org (8.6.12-DND/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA30795; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 16:56:38 -0400 Message-id: <10515382@mailbox1.Hitchcock.ORG> Date: 27 Jun 97 16:57:25 EDT From: William.P.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG (William P. McGonigle) Reply-To: Bill.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG Subject: Re: Netatalk hardware requirements? To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz), netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --- Georg Schwarz wrote: Can NetaTalk run on lowly 386 machines? --- end of quote --- I use it successfully on a 386SX/16 and an NE2000. I don't think Linux will run on anything slower. :) There are some poor NE2000 clones, though. Try swapping the ethernet cards. -Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 17:30:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id RAA28349; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 17:30:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA28340; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 17:30:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA12043; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 17:29:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA12041; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 17:29:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA12036; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 17:29:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13065; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:37:52 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA26598; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 14:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 14:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199706272119.OAA26598@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: mfreeman@iglou.com, everette_allen@ncsu.edu, joakim.ahlen@mediaprint.se, greg@smithphoto.com, halset@pvv.ntnu.no, hannu@ddbn.ee, kateley@apple.com, jwa@jammed.com, mbbecker@mail.deforest.k12.wi.us, chandhok@within.com, netatalk@umich.edu, brasherj@zoology.washington.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu, appleshareip@private.lists.apple.com, wrstuden@loki.stanford.edu, richardk@iprolink.co.nz, kenp@nmrfam.wisc.edu, schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov, mego@url.de Subject: update on afp/tcp patches to netatalk-1.4b2 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu to prevent any confusion about my patches, i've renamed them to 1.4b2+asun2.0ax. here are the appropriate urls: these also fix a couple of minor things w/ bsd4.4 machines. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 18:13:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id SAA29519; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 18:13:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA29513; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 18:12:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA09929; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 18:12:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA09927; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 18:12:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uu10.psi.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id SAA09916; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 18:12:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by uu10.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA26324 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 97 18:03:50 -0400 Received: from pequod.pigseye.com by pod.pigseye.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0whdlh-000IijC; Fri, 27 Jun 97 11:21 CDT Message-Id: Received: by pequod.pigseye.com (NX5.67f2/NX3.0X) id AA00326; Fri, 27 Jun 97 11:21:05 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: James Herre Date: Fri, 27 Jun 97 11:21:03 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Mac Aliases changing References: Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > I've followed the discussion for some time, and I think > Helios (Ethershare) has done "the right thing" in this > case: > > First, they have a single database for each volume, > .Desktop, holding APPL-Signatures, Icons, and the file- > and directory id database. This db is managed by a single > process, called desksrv. The afp server processes > communicate with the desksrv via RPCs. Second, they have > the id of each file/directory stored in a file named > ".rsrc/". This is to reduce RPC > overhead, as afp servers open this file anyway to get > the finder information, and to rebuild the desktop > database if it became corrupted. > > I'm working on this approach inside netatalk for 3 moths > now (in my spare time, which is not that much :-() I think you're correct that the "right" way to do this is to run separate server. I'm wondering whether the ".rsrc/" files might get messed up if you have overlapping afpd's (eg multiple servers exporting the same dirs via NFS)? Anyway, I'm the person who keeps babbling about hash functions. Below is the function used to assign new DID's into the afpd tree in the version we use. This returns a DID which is both unique and invariant. It doesn't require any RPC, IPC, files or file locking. The only problems are that it won't "always" work (the worst that will happen is that an alias will fail to find its original) and that it makes aliases work slightly differently than they do on a regular AppleShare server (if you move the original the alias is stops working). Still, if you're lazy like me, you might consider this approach. It will make your aliases work a very high percentage of the time and, personally, I prefer aliases that break if you move or rename the original. -J -------------------------------------------------------- Jamie Herre Gettys Group Software, Inc. jfh1@gettys.com #ifdef ALIAS_FIX /* hash function used to generate directory ids (jfh 3/3/96) I admit that very little thought went into this hash. */ static int dirnamehash( vol, directory_path ) struct vol *vol; char *directory_path; { const char *p; unsigned int result = 0; for (p=directory_path; *p; p++) { result = result * 33 + *p; } while (result < 5 || dirsearch(vol, htonl(result)) != NULL) { syslog( LOG_DEBUG, "hash collision: %s", directory_path ); result += 1; } return htonl( result ); } #endif From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 20:04:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id UAA01295; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:04:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA01291; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA27891; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:03:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA27888; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:03:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA27884; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:03:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Sat, 28 Jun 1997 02:03:53 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Subject: mounting AppleTalk volumes on Linux? From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 02:04:29 +0200 Message-ID: <19970628020429330712@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: MacSOUP D-2.2.1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is it possible to mount AppleTalk volumes (from a Mac or a workstation running Netatalk) on a PC running Linux? Thanks. --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 20:04:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id UAA01333; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:04:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA01321; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:04:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA08649; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:04:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA08647; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:04:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA08643; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:04:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Sat, 28 Jun 1997 02:04:08 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Subject: Netatalk printing support info? From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 02:04:42 +0200 Message-ID: <19970628020442331462@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: MacSOUP D-2.2.1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm new to Netatalk, just installed it tonight (1.4b2 on Linux). While I have found a lot of information on exporting volumes I've still got some deficit as far as printing using Netatalk is concerned. >From Linux' perspective, is it possible to enable Macs to use local lpr printers just like AppleTalk network printers? Or is it just possible to let Linux use AppleTalk printers via the lpr command? If someone could point my attention to some documentation on Netatalk's printing capabilities that would be a big help. Currently, on the Mac, I use a small app called LPR (lpr client) to print postscript files on lpr printers. Thanks. --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 20:04:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id UAA01384; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:04:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA01372; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA27953; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:04:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA27947; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:04:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA27942; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:04:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Sat, 28 Jun 1997 02:04:20 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Subject: AppleTalk's numering scheme? From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 02:04:56 +0200 Message-ID: <19970628020456332323@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: MacSOUP D-2.2.1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Where can I find some introduction into AppleTalk's concept of zones and network numers, etc.? Being used to TCP/IP, everything seems a bit odd to me. (it does work, but I'm really puzzled how exacly :-)) Thanks. --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 20:05:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id UAA01445; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:05:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA01429; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA08712; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:04:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA08708; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:04:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA08700; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:04:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Sat, 28 Jun 1997 02:04:30 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Subject: Netatalk security aspects? From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 02:05:06 +0200 Message-ID: <19970628020506332913@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: MacSOUP D-2.2.1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Are there any measures one should take in order to diminish the risk of a NetaTalk server getting hacked? For example, is it possible to restrict access to an explicite list of ethernet addresses only? Could and should one prevent users from exporting arbitrary directories? Thanks. --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 20:05:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id UAA01500; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:05:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA01434; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:04:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA08723; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA08718; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA08710; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 20:04:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Sat, 28 Jun 1997 02:04:39 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Subject: file name translation? From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 02:05:16 +0200 Message-ID: <19970628020516333535@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: MacSOUP D-2.2.1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Does Netatalk implement file name translation between the character set used on the Linux/UNIX side (ISO-8859-1) and MacOS' character set? --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 21:29:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id VAA04198; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 21:29:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id VAA04194; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 21:29:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA19328; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 21:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA19321; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 21:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA19315; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 21:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id SAA17774; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 18:29:07 -0700 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 18:29:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: Georg Schwarz cc: Netatalk Subject: Re: Netatalk security aspects? In-Reply-To: <19970628020506332913@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sat, 28 Jun 1997, Georg Schwarz wrote: > Are there any measures one should take in order to diminish the risk of > a NetaTalk server getting hacked? For example, is it possible to > restrict access to an explicite list of ethernet addresses only? > Could and should one prevent users from exporting arbitrary directories? I'm not sure about the host restrictions, but users can't export arbitrary directories. Well, they can try, but the afpd process will run as them when it tries to access these directories. Thus if the user doesn't have access, they can't use netatalk to gain access. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 21:31:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id VAA04256; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 21:31:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id VAA04252; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 21:30:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA19560; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 21:30:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA19557; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 21:30:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA19553; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 21:30:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id SAA31134; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 18:30:53 -0700 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 18:30:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: Georg Schwarz cc: Netatalk Subject: Re: Netatalk printing support info? In-Reply-To: <19970628020442331462@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sat, 28 Jun 1997, Georg Schwarz wrote: > I'm new to Netatalk, just installed it tonight (1.4b2 on Linux). While I > have found a lot of information on exporting volumes I've still got some > deficit as far as printing using Netatalk is concerned. > From Linux' perspective, is it possible to enable Macs to use local lpr > printers just like AppleTalk network printers? Yes. man papd. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jun 27 23:27:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id XAA05737; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 23:27:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id XAA05733; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 23:27:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA23537; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 23:27:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA23534; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 23:27:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from argos.saveas.com.ar by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA23467; Fri, 27 Jun 1997 23:27:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pastito@localhost) by argos.saveas.com.ar (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA28003; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 00:26:49 -0300 Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 00:26:49 -0300 Message-Id: <199706280326.AAA28003@argos.saveas.com.ar> From: Fernan Rodriguez Cespedes To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Netatalk routing Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu First, I would like to tell you that you are doing a great job. Thanks for giving me such a powerful tool for linux. After this introduction to the list, I am writing as a last resource. I did download the huge archive and searched for a solution to my problem but I found none. I have been at it for almost 12 hours now... literature on the appletalkk protocol is really scarce. The worst part of it is I *know* my question is really stupid because the problem is that I have no clue about the appletalk protocol, let alone routing. First, I have 2 servers with 2 ethernets each. Thay are linux 2.0.30. I have a backbone in one ethernet of the servers and on the other segment there are the client machines (now I have all the macs in one such segment). Now they ask me to move some macs to the other server. (as a matter of fact I have six servers...) My version of netatalk is 1.4b2. Here is a diagram: backbone --------------------------------- | | _________ _________ | | | | | Server1 | | Server2 | | | | | --------- --------- | | | segment 1 | segment 2 | | _________ _________ | | | | | mac 1 | | mac 2 | | | | | --------- --------- Now, lets say the backbone is in eth0 for both servers... Note there are no routers or any other equipment. So on server1: eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 100-110 -addr 100.227 eth1 -seed -phase 2 -net 100-110 -addr 101.156 And on server2: eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 100-110 -addr 100.122 eth1 -seed -phase 2 -net 100-110 -addr 102.156 But it just won't work. I cannot aecho anything out of the servers (ie cannot pinng 100.227 from server2, much less 101.156). The routing tables look like this: Server1 server1:/proc/net# cat atalk_route Target Router Flags Dev 0066:9C 0000:00 5 lo 0064:7A 0000:00 5 lo 006E:00 0066:9C 1 eth1 006D:00 0066:9C 1 eth1 006C:00 0066:9C 1 eth1 006B:00 0066:9C 1 eth1 006A:00 0066:9C 1 eth1 0069:00 0066:9C 1 eth1 0068:00 0066:9C 1 eth1 0067:00 0066:9C 1 eth1 0066:00 0066:9C 1 eth1 0065:00 0066:9C 1 eth1 0064:00 0066:9C 1 eth1 0000:00 0000:00 5 lo Server 2: server2:/proc/net# cat atalk_route Target Router Flags Dev 0065:9C 0000:00 5 lo 0064:E3 0000:00 5 lo 006E:00 0065:9C 1 eth1 006D:00 0065:9C 1 eth1 006C:00 0065:9C 1 eth1 006B:00 0065:9C 1 eth1 006A:00 0065:9C 1 eth1 0069:00 0065:9C 1 eth1 0068:00 0065:9C 1 eth1 0067:00 0065:9C 1 eth1 0066:00 0065:9C 1 eth1 0065:00 0065:9C 1 eth1 0064:00 0065:9C 1 eth1 0000:00 0000:00 5 lo Now for the logging: Server1: Jun 27 23:45:11 server4 atalkd[10368]: restart (1.4b2) Jun 27 23:45:13 server4 atalkd[10368]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 Jun 27 23:45:32 server4 last message repeated 2 times Jun 27 23:45:42 server4 atalkd[10368]: as_timer configured eth0 phase2 from seed Jun 27 23:45:43 server4 atalkd[10368]: zip_getnetinfo for eth1 Jun 27 23:45:52 server4 last message repeated 2 times Jun 27 23:46:02 server4 atalkd[10368]: as_timer configured eth1 phase 2 from seed Jun 27 23:46:02 server4 atalkd[10368]: ready 0/0/0 Jun 27 23:46:12 server4 atalkd[10368]: rtmp_packet gateway 100.227 up Jun 27 23:46:14 server4 papd[10381]: restart (1.4b2) Anyone can help, please? II have tried everything on the -net... no luck. I suppose the routing should be done on the other interfarce (eth0) but I don't really know. -- Saludos - Pastito Save As Linux http://www.saveas.com.ar http://www.linux.com.ar ftp://ftp.saveas.com.ar ftp://ftp.linux.com.ar pastito@saveas.com.ar pastito@linux.com.ar From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jun 28 06:16:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id GAA24454; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 06:16:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA24450; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 06:15:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA08338; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 06:15:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA08336; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 06:15:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA08332; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 06:15:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Sat, 28 Jun 1997 12:15:15 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Subject: authentification with papd? From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 12:15:54 +0200 Message-ID: <19970628121554508334@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: MacSOUP D-2.2.1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is it possible to restrict access to printers when running papd? Is there something similar to /etc/hosts.lpd? Or is it possible for any host on the LAN (which in our case includes the whole department) capable of doing PAP to print on any printer accessible through papd? Thanks. --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jun 28 10:57:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id KAA27961; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 10:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA27956; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 10:57:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA18151; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 10:57:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA18145; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 10:57:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chava.netmedia.net.il by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA18131; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 10:57:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leyada.jlm.k12.il ([192.115.119.3]) by chava.netmedia.net.il (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12750; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 17:58:08 +0200 (IST) Received: from MIN4100/MAIL_Q by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 28 Jun 97 17:55:55 +0200 Received: from MAIL_Q by MIN4100 (Mercury 1.21); 28 Jun 97 17:55:16 +0200 Received: from tycoon by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 28 Jun 97 17:55:04 +0200 Message-ID: <33B525E5.167EB0E7@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 17:55:33 +0300 From: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" Organization: Hebrew University High School X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Georg Schwarz CC: Netatalk Admins Mailing List Subject: Re: AppleTalk's numering scheme? References: <19970628020456332323@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Georg Schwarz wrote: > > Where can I find some introduction into AppleTalk's concept of zones and > network numers, etc.? Being used to TCP/IP, everything seems a bit odd > to me. (it does work, but I'm really puzzled how exacly :-)) > Thanks. > > -- > Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de > Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 > Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ I guess you can search apple's site. Zones are different networks joined together by a router (machine with two cards). About the numbers I don't know, they are configured pretty much automatically, so I didn't need to touch it. If it aint broken, don't fix it. Bye, Yannai. -- Yannai A. Gonczarowski System Administrator yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il The Hebrew University High School http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/~yannaigo/ "Do you want to know something? Everybody's human." "I find that remark insulting." - Kirk and Spock, "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered contry", stardate 9529.1 From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jun 28 12:57:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id MAA00268; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 12:57:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA00263; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 12:57:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA14178; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 12:57:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA14174; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 12:57:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gauntlet.ht.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA14168; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 12:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by gauntlet.ht.com; id MAA18859; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 12:56:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unknown(10.0.100.2) by gauntlet.ht.com via smap (3.2) id xma018857; Sat, 28 Jun 97 12:56:51 -0400 Received: by ht.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/3.1.090690-High Techsplanations) id QAA04459; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 16:57:06 GMT From: "Fred Taheri" Message-Id: <9706281257.ZM4457@he.ht.com> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 12:57:05 -0400 mailer: Mailer Data X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Error while copying Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi Folks, I just installed Netatalk version 1.3.3 for Intel platform on my Linux Red Hat version 2.0.27. My problem is when copying files from a Mac to any volumes listed in file AppleVolumes.system, I get the following error message: The item "filename" could not be copied because the file cannot be found. Volumes listed in file AppleVolumes.default do not create the same error message. Just to be sure permission is not the problem, I set both volumes to be the same. Here is a what I have for each volume: # cat AppleVolumes.default ~ "private home" # cat AppleVolumes.system ~ "private" Thanks, Fred Taheri fred@ht.com From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jun 28 13:57:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id NAA01113; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 13:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA01109; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 13:56:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA20891; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 13:56:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA20888; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 13:56:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA20878; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 13:56:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Sat, 28 Jun 1997 19:56:43 +0200 Received: by lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de (940816.SGI.8.6.9/ZRZ-Gen) id TAA23575; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 19:56:42 +0200 Message-Id: <199706281756.TAA23575@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Subject: disabling CR <-> LF conversion To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 19:56:42 +0200 (MEST) From: Georg Schwarz Reply-To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'd like to disable CR <-> LF conversion with Netatalk 1.4b2. I think I could simply compile without -DCRLF in CFLAGS of etc/afpd/Makefil= e, right? Is there a more elegant way of doing it? Thanks. (I hope that's not a FAQ; at least I couldn't find it addressed anywhere) --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik Tel. +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ Sekr. PN 7-1, Hardenbergstr. 36, D-10623 Berlin IRC: kuroi From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jun 28 14:02:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id OAA01569; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 14:02:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA01517; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 14:02:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA08742; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 14:01:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA08739; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 14:01:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server.proxy.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id OAA08730; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 14:01:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [199.212.225.34] by server.proxy.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0wi1oj-00073qC; Sat, 28 Jun 97 14:01 EDT X-Sender: becker@mail.proxy.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <33B525E5.167EB0E7@leyada.jlm.k12.il> References: <19970628020456332323@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 14:06:07 -0400 To: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" From: Bernard Becker Subject: Re: AppleTalk's numering scheme? Cc: Netatalk Admins Mailing List Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Yannai, you don't need two cards two have zones. Zones are an artificial construct that are not bound by numbering scheme or physical wiring. One Piece of Ethernet can have multiple zones on it. As you point out, a router is required but it doesn't have to be routing between physical segments. To answer George's question; a good intro to AppleTalk from a UNIX/TCP perspective can be found at: http://www.cs.mu.OZ.AU/appletalk/aboutatalk.html >Georg Schwarz wrote: >> >> Where can I find some introduction into AppleTalk's concept of zones and >> network numers, etc.? Being used to TCP/IP, everything seems a bit odd >> to me. (it does work, but I'm really puzzled how exacly :-)) >> Thanks. >I guess you can search apple's site. >Zones are different networks joined together by a router (machine with >two cards). >About the numbers I don't know, they are configured pretty much >automatically, so I didn't need to touch it. If it aint broken, don't >fix it. > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Bernard Becker, Sr. Systems Engineer, Apple Canada Apple Network Managers Assoc. Ontario, Prez. If you're absurdly interested in my life: Life's too short to do DOS support. From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jun 28 14:59:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id OAA02583; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 14:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA02579; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 14:59:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA14906; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 14:59:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA14901; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 14:59:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA14895; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 14:59:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id LAA24656; Sat, 28 Jun 1997 11:59:08 -0700 Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 11:59:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: Fernan Rodriguez Cespedes cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Netatalk routing In-Reply-To: <199706280326.AAA28003@argos.saveas.com.ar> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sat, 28 Jun 1997, Fernan Rodriguez Cespedes wrote: > First, I would like to tell you that you are doing a great job. Thanks > for giving me such a powerful tool for linux. Just for the record, it's not just for Linux. :-) I'm using it on NetBSD. It runs on FreeBSD, suns, ultrix, and lots more. > After this introduction to the list, I am writing as a last > resource. I did download the huge archive and searched for a solution > to my problem but I found none. I have been at it for almost 12 hours > now... literature on the appletalkk protocol is really scarce. > > The worst part of it is I *know* my question is really stupid because > the problem is that I have no clue about the appletalk protocol, let > alone routing. > > First, I have 2 servers with 2 ethernets each. Thay are linux > 2.0.30. I have a backbone in one ethernet of the servers and on the > other segment there are the client machines (now I have all the macs > in one such segment). Now they ask me to move some macs to the other > server. (as a matter of fact I have six servers...) > > My version of netatalk is 1.4b2. > > Here is a diagram: > > backbone > --------------------------------- > | | > _________ _________ > | | | | > | Server1 | | Server2 | > | | | | > --------- --------- > | | > | segment 1 | segment 2 > | | > _________ _________ > | | | | > | mac 1 | | mac 2 | > | | | | > --------- --------- > > > Now, lets say the backbone is in eth0 for both servers... > > Note there are no routers or any other equipment. > > So on server1: > > eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 100-110 -addr 100.227 > eth1 -seed -phase 2 -net 100-110 -addr 101.156 > > And on server2: > > eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 100-110 -addr 100.122 > eth1 -seed -phase 2 -net 100-110 -addr 102.156 > > > But it just won't work. No, it won't. :-) The net number(s) must be unique for a wire. Also, you don't really need a range unless you have a LOT of computers. We have 200 macs living off of one net number. Try something like (assuming eth0 is the backbone): eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 100 -addr 100.1 -zone "Backbone" eth1 -seed -phase 2 -net 101 -addr 101.1 -zone "Zone 1" and eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 100 -addr 100.2 -zone "Backbone" (must match other backbone line, and doesn't need to be -seed if server 1 fires up first always) eth1 -seed -phase 2 -net 102 -addr 102.1 -zone "Zone 2" Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jun 29 06:52:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id GAA23029; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 06:52:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA23025; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 06:52:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA11345; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 06:52:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA11343; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 06:52:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zanzibar.orient.uw.edu.pl by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA11339; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 06:52:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kadawer.w.domu (ppp-cst68.warszawa.tpnet.pl [194.204.131.68]) by zanzibar.orient.uw.edu.pl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16195 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 12:52:42 +0200 Received: from localhost (pasiasty@localhost) by kadawer.w.domu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA01682 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 10:40:06 +0200 Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 10:40:05 +0200 (MET DST) From: Cezary Zemis Reply-To: pasiasty@orient.uw.edu.pl To: Netatalk Subject: Re: AppleTalk's numering scheme? In-Reply-To: <19970628020456332323@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sat, 28 Jun 1997, Georg Schwarz wrote: > Where can I find some introduction into AppleTalk's concept of zones and > network numers, etc.? Being used to TCP/IP, everything seems a bit odd > to me. (it does work, but I'm really puzzled how exacly :-)) > Thanks. Try web wersion of Inside Macintosh and Inside AppleTalk: http://devworld.apple.com/dev/insidemac.shtml _ _ _ Cezary Zemis, mailto:pasiasty@orient.uw.edu.pl -+ / / / http://www.orient.uw.edu.pl/~pasiasty | / / / tel.:(+48 22) 443 054, GSM:0-601 227 486 | P A S I A S T Y Joliot-Curie 9/29, 02-646 Warszawa, Poland | / / / | /_ /_ /_ --- "E, chcesz w ry³o?" (J.W.Goethe, "Faust") --+ From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jun 29 08:24:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id IAA24091; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 08:24:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA24087; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 08:24:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA29955; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 08:24:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA29953; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 08:24:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA29949; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 08:24:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Sun, 29 Jun 1997 14:24:04 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Subject: disabling creation of .AppleDouble, etc.? From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 14:24:42 +0200 Message-ID: <19970629142442611018@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: MacSOUP D-2.2.1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is it possible to compile Netatalk 1.4b2 so that it never creates .AppleDouble, .AppleDesktop directories? It looks like it could do without (e.g. on non writable directories). Also, is there a way to tell Netatalk that a particular file system is mounted r/o on Linux and it thus should not bother trying to write anything to it (although from only looking at the permissions Netatalk this it could write)? Thanks. --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jun 29 10:31:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) id KAA25023; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 10:31:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA25019; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 10:31:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA07981; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 10:31:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA07974; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 10:31:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chava.netmedia.net.il by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA07964; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 10:31:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leyada.jlm.k12.il ([192.115.119.3]) by chava.netmedia.net.il (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18518 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 17:32:24 +0200 (IST) Received: from MIN4100/MAIL_Q by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 29 Jun 97 17:30:40 +0200 Received: from MAIL_Q by MIN4100 (Mercury 1.21); 29 Jun 97 17:30:06 +0200 Received: from tycoon by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 29 Jun 97 17:29:57 +0200 Message-ID: <33B67167.41C67EA6@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 17:29:59 +0300 From: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" Organization: Hebrew University High School X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk Admins Mailing List Subject: CAP/netatalk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've heard many people talking about how netatalk is better than CAP, but still couldn't get any key differences. Can someone please give me a little comarison between the two? Thanks, Bye, Yannai. -- Yannai A. Gonczarowski System Administrator yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il The Hebrew University High School http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/~yannaigo/ "Do you want to know something? Everybody's human." "I find that remark insulting." - Kirk and Spock, "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered contry", stardate 9529.1 From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jun 29 18:31:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id SAA29665; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 18:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from argos.saveas.com.ar by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA29661; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 18:30:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pastito@localhost) by argos.saveas.com.ar (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA29228; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 19:30:11 -0300 Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 19:30:11 -0300 Message-Id: <199706292230.TAA29228@argos.saveas.com.ar> From: Fernan Rodriguez Cespedes To: andy@focus.demon.co.uk Cc: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu First, thanks for all the people who wrote me an answer to my problem. I am sorry I posted the example with network ranges (I tried that in desperation and then forgot about it and did a cut and paste). Basically my setup was right. The real problem is broken appletalk code in linux's 2.0.30 kernel. I thank specially Andrew Norman who said he will send me a patch. I'd vote that he either posts it to the list or mail it to the one in charge of the www page so this patch is available. -- Saludos - Pastito Save As Linux http://www.saveas.com.ar http://www.linux.com.ar ftp://ftp.saveas.com.ar ftp://ftp.linux.com.ar pastito@saveas.com.ar pastito@linux.com.ar From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jun 29 19:27:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id TAA00677; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 19:27:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA00673; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 19:27:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA01526; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 19:27:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA01524; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 19:27:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from grumpy.net.na by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id TAA01520; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 19:27:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from linux.lisse.na by grumpy.net.na with cbsmtp (Linux 1.0.8 Smail3.1.29.1 #9) id m0wiSlu-000qC9C; Mon, 30 Jun 97 00:48 GMT+0200 Received: from [196.20.30.2] (mac.lisse.na [196.20.30.2]) by linux.lisse.na (8.8.6.Beta5/8.8.6.Beta5/el) with ESMTP id WAA01206 for ; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 22:50:02 +0100 X-Sender: el@linux.lisse.na Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199706241857.OAA17061@bioserver.bio.mtu.edu> References: from "Stefan Bethke" at Jun 23, 97 06:56:02 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 22:49:55 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse Subject: Re: Does Netatalk allow printer accounting ... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I run the 1.4b2 on linux 2.0.30 with a Dec Tulip card and have a LaserWriter Select 310 with the proper PPD installed. /usr/local/atalk/etc nbplkup @* linux:AFPServer 65280.108:130 Mac Printer Spooler:LaserWriter 65280.108:128 linux:netatalk 65280.108:4 linux:Workstation 65280.108:4 mac: Macintosh 65325.1:253 mac:Workstation 65325.1:4 /usr/local/atalk/etc papstatus -p "Mac Printer Spooler" lp is ready and printing I can not see the printer from the Chooser of my LCIII. I can however mount the file system. Is there something that I can do to be able to choose the LaserWriter? el -- Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse\ / Swakopmund State Hospital * | Resident Medical Officer Private Bag 5004 \ / +264 81 124 6733 (cell) 64 461005(h) 461004(f) Swakopmund, Namibia ;____/ Domain Coordinator for NA-DOM (el108) Vice-Chairman, Board of Trustees, Namibian Internet Development Foundation, an Association not for Gain. NAMIDEF is the Namibian Internet Service Provider. From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jun 29 20:25:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id UAA01509; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 20:25:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA01505; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 20:25:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA06941; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 20:25:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA06939; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 20:25:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sally.nas.nasa.gov by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA06935; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 20:25:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from plambert@localhost) by sally.nas.nasa.gov (8.8.3/NAS.6.1) id RAA22574; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 17:25:29 -0700 (PDT) From: plambert@nas.nasa.gov (Paul M. Lambert) Message-Id: <199706300025.RAA22574@sally.nas.nasa.gov> Subject: Re: update on afp/tcp patches to netatalk-1.4b2 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 17:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Cc: plambert@sally.nas.nasa.gov (Paul M. Lambert) In-Reply-To: <199706272119.OAA26598@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> from "a sun" at Jun 27, 97 02:19:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu a sun said: > > > to prevent any confusion about my patches, i've renamed them to > 1.4b2+asun2.0ax. here are the appropriate urls: > > > > > these also fix a couple of minor things w/ bsd4.4 machines. > Has anyone successfully compiled this under Linux 2.0.30? I'm failing utterly. And I don't understand these things well enough to fix this. *sigh* It fails every time, with what looks like simple header problems. It doesn't like some of the definitions, I guess. Here's what happens: --------------------------------------------------------------------------- pinky.plambert ~/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a9 > make Making all for linux... make[1]: Entering directory `/aux2/home/plambert/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a9/sys/linux' cd ../../libatalk; make -w CC="gcc -I/usr/include " \ ADDLIBS="" DEFS="-DTCPWRAP -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER" OPTOPTS="-O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused" \ SBINDIR="/home/plambert/atalk/etc" BINDIR="/home/plambert/atalk/bin" RESDIR="/home/plambert/atalk/etc" \ ETCDIR="/home/plambert/atalk/etc" LIBDIR="/home/plambert/atalk/lib" INCDIR="/home/plambert/atalk/include" \ DESTDIR="/home/plambert/atalk" AFSDIR="" KRBDIR="" \ AFPLIBS="-lcrypt -lwrap" all make[2]: Entering directory `/aux2/home/plambert/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a9/libatalk' cd asp; make -w CC="gcc -I/usr/include " DEFS="-DTCPWRAP -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER" \ OPTOPTS="-O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused" make[3]: Entering directory `/aux2/home/plambert/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a9/libatalk/asp' gcc -I/usr/include -p -DTCPWRAP -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER -O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -I../../include -c asp_attn.c In file included from asp_attn.c:12: /usr/include/atalk/atp.h:74: field `atpxo_tv' has incomplete type /usr/include/atalk/atp.h:82: field `atpbuf_addr' has incomplete type /usr/include/atalk/atp.h:91: field `atph_saddr' has incomplete type /usr/include/atalk/atp.h:103: field `atph_reqtv' has incomplete type In file included from asp_attn.c:13: /usr/include/atalk/asp.h:26: field `asp_sat' has incomplete type asp_attn.c:18: parse error before `AFPUserBytes' asp_attn.c: In function `asp_attention': asp_attn.c:20: `ASP_HDRSIZ' undeclared (first use this function) asp_attn.c:20: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once asp_attn.c:20: for each function it appears in.) asp_attn.c:21: storage size of `sat' isn't known asp_attn.c:26: `asp' undeclared (first use this function) asp_attn.c:27: `flags' undeclared (first use this function) asp_attn.c:21: warning: unused variable `sat' asp_attn.c:20: warning: unused variable `data' asp_attn.c:20: warning: unused variable `cmds' make[3]: *** [asp_attn.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/aux2/home/plambert/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a9/libatalk/asp' make[2]: *** [asp] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/aux2/home/plambert/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a9/libatalk' make[1]: *** [../../libatalk] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/aux2/home/plambert/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a9/sys/linux' make: *** [all] Error 2 From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jun 29 20:51:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id UAA02061; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 20:51:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA02055; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 20:51:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA26298; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 20:51:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA26296; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 20:51:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chaos.coredcs.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA26291; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 20:51:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jleu@localhost) by chaos.coredcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA26924; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 19:51:13 -0500 From: "James R. Leu" Message-Id: <199706300051.TAA26924@chaos.coredcs.com> Subject: Re: update on afp/tcp patches to netatalk-1.4b2 To: plambert@nas.nasa.gov (Paul M. Lambert) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 19:51:13 -0500 (CDT) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk Admins) In-Reply-To: <199706300025.RAA22574@sally.nas.nasa.gov> from "Paul M. Lambert" at Jun 29, 97 05:25:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Yes. I needed to dl the tcp_wrappers package. (to get tcpd.h and libwrap.a) Also you need to blow away your old /usr/include/atalk /usr/include/netatalk directories. Then it should compile fine. > > a sun said: > > > > > > to prevent any confusion about my patches, i've renamed them to > > 1.4b2+asun2.0ax. here are the appropriate urls: > > > > > > > > > > these also fix a couple of minor things w/ bsd4.4 machines. > > > > Has anyone successfully compiled this under Linux 2.0.30? > > I'm failing utterly. And I don't understand these things well enough to > fix this. *sigh* > > It fails every time, with what looks like simple header problems. It doesn't > like some of the definitions, I guess. > > Here's what happens: > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > pinky.plambert ~/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a9 > make > Making all for linux... > make[1]: Entering directory `/aux2/home/plambert/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a9/sys/linux' > cd ../../libatalk; make -w CC="gcc -I/usr/include " \ > ADDLIBS="" DEFS="-DTCPWRAP -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER" OPTOPTS="-O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused" \ > SBINDIR="/home/plambert/atalk/etc" BINDIR="/home/plambert/atalk/bin" RESDIR="/home/plambert/atalk/etc" \ > ETCDIR="/home/plambert/atalk/etc" LIBDIR="/home/plambert/atalk/lib" INCDIR="/home/plambert/atalk/include" \ > DESTDIR="/home/plambert/atalk" AFSDIR="" KRBDIR="" \ > AFPLIBS="-lcrypt -lwrap" all > make[2]: Entering directory `/aux2/home/plambert/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a9/libatalk' > cd asp; make -w CC="gcc -I/usr/include " DEFS="-DTCPWRAP -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER" \ > OPTOPTS="-O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused" > make[3]: Entering directory `/aux2/home/plambert/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a9/libatalk/asp' > gcc -I/usr/include -p -DTCPWRAP -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER -O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -I../../include -c asp_attn.c > In file included from asp_attn.c:12: > /usr/include/atalk/atp.h:74: field `atpxo_tv' has incomplete type > /usr/include/atalk/atp.h:82: field `atpbuf_addr' has incomplete type > /usr/include/atalk/atp.h:91: field `atph_saddr' has incomplete type > /usr/include/atalk/atp.h:103: field `atph_reqtv' has incomplete type > In file included from asp_attn.c:13: > /usr/include/atalk/asp.h:26: field `asp_sat' has incomplete type > asp_attn.c:18: parse error before `AFPUserBytes' > asp_attn.c: In function `asp_attention': > asp_attn.c:20: `ASP_HDRSIZ' undeclared (first use this function) > asp_attn.c:20: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > asp_attn.c:20: for each function it appears in.) > asp_attn.c:21: storage size of `sat' isn't known > asp_attn.c:26: `asp' undeclared (first use this function) > asp_attn.c:27: `flags' undeclared (first use this function) > asp_attn.c:21: warning: unused variable `sat' > asp_attn.c:20: warning: unused variable `data' > asp_attn.c:20: warning: unused variable `cmds' > make[3]: *** [asp_attn.o] Error 1 > make[3]: Leaving directory `/aux2/home/plambert/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a9/libatalk/asp' > make[2]: *** [asp] Error 2 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/aux2/home/plambert/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a9/libatalk' > make[1]: *** [../../libatalk] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/aux2/home/plambert/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a9/sys/linux' > make: *** [all] Error 2 > -- James R. Leu Network Administrator CORE Digital Communication Services jleu@coredcs.com From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 04:30:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id EAA06945; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 04:30:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA06941; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 04:30:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA12253; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 04:30:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA12251; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 04:30:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA12247; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 04:30:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.7.3) id KAA06978; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:29:40 +0200 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:29:40 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: Georg Schwarz cc: Netatalk Subject: Re: disabling creation of .AppleDouble, etc.? In-Reply-To: <19970629142442611018@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Is it possible to compile Netatalk 1.4b2 so that it never creates > .AppleDouble, .AppleDesktop directories? It looks like it could do > without (e.g. on non writable directories). Why do that? If you'll write any File from Macs over Netatalk, Mac Flags and other stuff must be written. > Also, is there a way to tell Netatalk that a particular file system is > mounted r/o on Linux and it thus should not bother trying to write > anything to it (although from only looking at the permissions Netatalk > this it could write)? If you mount a CD-ROM or similar RO, FileFlags should never include write permissions and netatalk won't write anything. PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 04:38:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id EAA15474; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 04:38:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA15450; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 04:37:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA24789; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 04:37:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA24787; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 04:37:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA24776; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 04:37:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.7.3) id KAA07013; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:37:08 +0200 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:37:08 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: Dr Eberhard W Lisse cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Does Netatalk allow printer accounting ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > I can not see the printer from the Chooser of my LCIII. > I can however mount the file system. I cannot see the LaserWriter in your nbplkup, too. What type of connection does it have? PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 04:38:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id EAA15484; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 04:38:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA15434; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 04:37:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA24783; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 04:37:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA24781; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 04:37:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA24772; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 04:37:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:37:40 +0200 Received: by lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de (940816.SGI.8.6.9/ZRZ-Gen) id KAA05140; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:37:38 +0200 Message-Id: <199706300837.KAA05140@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Subject: Re: disabling creation of .AppleDouble, etc.? In-Reply-To: from Patrik Schindler at "Jun 30, 97 10:29:40 am" To: poc@pingnet.de (Patrik Schindler), netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:37:38 +0200 (MEST) From: Georg Schwarz Reply-To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > Is it possible to compile Netatalk 1.4b2 so that it never creates > > .AppleDouble, .AppleDesktop directories? It looks like it could do > > without (e.g. on non writable directories). >=20 > Why do that? If you'll write any File from Macs over Netatalk, Mac Flags= =20 > and other stuff must be written. what if I only want to write the data fork? I know that I would loose the resource fork as well as some information on = the file. > =20 > > Also, is there a way to tell Netatalk that a particular file system is > > mounted r/o on Linux and it thus should not bother trying to write > > anything to it (although from only looking at the permissions Netatalk > > this it could write)? >=20 > If you mount a CD-ROM or similar RO, FileFlags should never include write= =20 > permissions and netatalk won't write anything. well, you can have some partitions mountet r/o with permissions of the directories still being 777 or whatever. --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik Tel. +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ Sekr. PN 7-1, Hardenbergstr. 36, D-10623 Berlin IRC: kuroi From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 05:17:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id FAA22248; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 05:17:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id FAA22244; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 05:17:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA15284; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 05:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA15282; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 05:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id FAA15278; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 05:17:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.7.3) id LAA07226; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:16:21 +0200 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:16:21 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: Georg Schwarz cc: Netatalk Subject: Re: disabling creation of .AppleDouble, etc.? In-Reply-To: <199706300837.KAA05140@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > Why do that? If you'll write any File from Macs over Netatalk, Mac Flags > > and other stuff must be written. > what if I only want to write the data fork? > I know that I would loose the resource fork as well as some information on the > file. Hmm, dunno. > well, you can have some partitions mountet r/o with permissions of the > directories still being 777 or whatever. Never seen. Sorry. PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 06:45:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id GAA23525; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 06:45:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA23521; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 06:45:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA01800; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 06:45:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA01798; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 06:45:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netmedia.net.il by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA01794; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 06:44:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leyada.jlm.k12.il ([192.115.119.3]) by netmedia.net.il (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00490; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 13:42:29 +0200 (IST) Received: from MIN4100/MAIL_Q by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 30 Jun 97 13:41:13 +0200 Received: from MAIL_Q by MIN4100 (Mercury 1.21); 30 Jun 97 13:40:31 +0200 Received: from tycoon by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 30 Jun 97 13:40:26 +0200 Message-ID: <33B78CF3.41C67EA6@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 13:39:59 +0300 From: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" Organization: Hebrew University High School X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrik Schindler CC: Netatalk Admins Mailing List Subject: More options in AppleVolumes filesystems definition (Re: disabling creation of .AppleDouble, etc.?) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Patrik Schindler wrote: > > > > Why do that? If you'll write any File from Macs over Netatalk, Mac Flags > > > and other stuff must be written. > > what if I only want to write the data fork? > > I know that I would loose the resource fork as well as some information on the > > file. > > Hmm, dunno. > > > well, you can have some partitions mountet r/o with permissions of the > > directories still being 777 or whatever. > > Never seen. Sorry. > > PoC I believe the question here is, can you tell netatalk to export a filesystem read-only. in /etc/exports, one can do it like this: /usr -ro Is there a way to specify that in the AppleVolumes files? If not, how complicated is it to create a patch for an option like this in the AppleVolumes files? Furthermore, how complicated is it to create a patch for an option which says something like "disable AppleDouble and AppleDesktop for this filesystem"? Any ideas? Bye, Yannai. -- Yannai A. Gonczarowski System Administrator yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il The Hebrew University High School http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/~yannaigo/ "Do you want to know something? Everybody's human." "I find that remark insulting." - Kirk and Spock, "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered contry", stardate 9529.1 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 07:11:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id HAA24314; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 07:11:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA24309; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 07:11:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA22746; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 07:11:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA22744; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 07:11:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fw.digicol.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA22735; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 07:11:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from fwtk@localhost) by fw.digicol.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA11390; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 13:11:25 +0200 Received: from elvis.digicol.old(192.42.172.1) by fw.digicol.de via smap (V2.0beta) id xma011388; Mon, 30 Jun 97 13:10:56 +0200 Received: from thiespc (thiespc.digicol.de [194.25.133.73]) by digicol.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA56768; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 13:10:55 +0200 Message-ID: <33B7943F.C3512449@digicol.de> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 13:10:55 +0200 From: "Thies C. Arntzen" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" , a sun Subject: Netatalk + asuns IP-Patches Without AppleTalk... X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, i've installed on my linux box and instead of calling up rc.atalk i just started the afpd "by hand". I can connect from my my via IP just fine... so that brings something up in my brain: what about having a compile option that disables the appletalk option and "leaves" the ip option in, that would allow us to run netatalk on many, many more different unixes 'cause there wouldn't be any "kernel-stuff" to port?!? hmm, just a suggestion, tc From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 08:02:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id IAA25247; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 08:02:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA25243; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 08:02:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA29159; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 08:02:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA29157; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 08:02:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA29152; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 08:02:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from xs2.xs4all.nl (nexus@xs2.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.43]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.8.5/XS4ALL) with ESMTP id OAA18346 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 14:02:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from nexus@localhost) by xs2.xs4all.nl (8.7.6/XS4ALL) id OAA27987 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 14:02:32 +0200 (MET DST) From: nexus Message-Id: <199706301202.OAA27987@xs2.xs4all.nl> Subject: Re: AppleTalk's numering scheme? To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 14:02:32 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <33B525E5.167EB0E7@leyada.jlm.k12.il> from "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" at Jun 28, 97 05:55:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > > Where can I find some introduction into AppleTalk's concept of zones and > > network numers, etc.? Being used to TCP/IP, everything seems a bit odd > > to me. (it does work, but I'm really puzzled how exacly :-)) > > Thanks. > > > Zones are different networks joined together by a router (machine with > two cards). > About the numbers I don't know, they are configured pretty much > automatically, so I didn't need to touch it. If it aint broken, don't > fix it. actually, you can have zones on 1 wire. the only interesting detail Im aware of about the numbering is that a mac will choose a random number in a certain range when it first starts up. Casey From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 09:12:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA26752; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:12:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA26748; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:12:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA17709; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:12:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA17698; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:12:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id JAA17680; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:12:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from grace.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (grace.rob.cs.tu-bs.de [134.169.36.33]) by dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA08731; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:12:23 +0200 Received: by grace.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA11116; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:12:22 +0200 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:12:22 +0200 Message-Id: <199706301312.PAA11116@grace.rob.cs.tu-bs.de> From: Mario Klebsch DG1AM To: fi111@fen.baynet.de CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199706270123.DAA18392@Abarrach.evendim.world> (message from Roland Schulz on Fri, 27 Jun 1997 03:22:49 +0200 (CEST)) Subject: Re: Changing Aliases ... and how to fix? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! >Not necessarily. >This is where central database file in the volumes root comes into play. >This file is a simple array indexed by inode that provides for each Mac-created >or Mac-visited directory the inode number of its parent. The file is mmapped >by each afpd and updates are made directly when a dir is created/removed/moved. >If a directory is created from the unix side, the inconsistency does not matter >at all, since no mac can have an alias pointing to this directory. If it is >created by a Mac, the file is updated, so aliases work. > >One problem with this approach is that it cannot detect when a dir is >deleted and then recreated, getting the same inode as the old dir, which is a >very common case. It also has the problem, that when a directory looses its DID, when it is renamed. But one of the main features of the aliases is, that they keep the connection to the original file, even if the file is renamed or moved and even, when the direcories in the path are renamed. 73, Mario -- Mario Klebsch, DG1AM, M.Klebsch@tu-bs.de +49 531 / 391 - 7457 Institut fuer Robotik und Prozessinformatik der TU Braunschweig Hamburger Strasse 267, 38114 Braunschweig, Germany From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 09:21:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA27037; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:21:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA27025; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:21:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA21278; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:21:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA21273; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:21:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ehsn3.cen.uiuc.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA21268; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:21:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (jluther@localhost) by ehsn3.cen.uiuc.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA08251; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 08:21:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 08:21:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Luther X-Sender: jluther@ehsn3.cen.uiuc.edu To: Georg Schwarz cc: Netatalk Subject: Re: Netatalk security aspects? In-Reply-To: <19970628020506332913@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sat, 28 Jun 1997, Georg Schwarz wrote: xinetd and tcpwrappers (afaik) control connections to a host based on IP address. xinetd is a replacement for inetd. > Are there any measures one should take in order to diminish the risk of > a NetaTalk server getting hacked? For example, is it possible to > restrict access to an explicite list of ethernet addresses only? > Could and should one prevent users from exporting arbitrary directories? > Thanks. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 09:29:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA27558; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA27536; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA04891; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:28:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA04887; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:28:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beijing.itri.loyola.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA04878; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:28:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mstone@localhost) by beijing.itri.loyola.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA13622; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:29:12 -0400 Message-ID: <19970630092911.05773@beijing.itri.loyola.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:29:11 -0400 From: Michael Stone To: Netatalk Subject: Re: disabling creation of .AppleDouble, etc.? References: <19970629142442611018@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: ; from Patrik Schindler on Mon, Jun 30, 1997 at 10:29:40AM +0200 X-Fingerprint: 53 FF 38 00 E7 DD 0A 9C 84 52 84 C5 EE DF 7C 88 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Quoting Patrik Schindler (poc@pingnet.de): > > Is it possible to compile Netatalk 1.4b2 so that it never creates > > .AppleDouble, .AppleDesktop directories? It looks like it could do > > without (e.g. on non writable directories). > > Why do that? If you'll write any File from Macs over Netatalk, Mac Flags > and other stuff must be written. What if you want the macs to have access to the data, but don't want them leaving stuff all over the place? In a mixed environment, there isn't much point in having the resource fork anyway, since the dos and unix clients ignore it already. Mike Stone From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 09:47:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA28397; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:47:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA28392; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:47:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA11014; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:47:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA11011; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:47:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA11002; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA06999; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 06:46:23 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA28499; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 06:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 06:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199706301337.GAA28499@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: plambert@nas.nasa.gov CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, plambert@sally.nas.nasa.gov In-reply-to: <199706300025.RAA22574@sally.nas.nasa.gov> (plambert@nas.nasa.gov) Subject: Re: update on afp/tcp patches to netatalk-1.4b2 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In file included from asp_attn.c:12: /usr/include/atalk/atp.h:74: field `atpxo_tv' has incomplete type /usr/include/atalk/atp.h:82: field `atpbuf_addr' has incomplete type /usr/include/atalk/atp.h:91: field `atph_saddr' has incomplete type /usr/include/atalk/atp.h:103: field `atph_reqtv' has incomplete type [...] you're using the wrong headers. get rid of /usr/include/atalk and /usr/include/netatalk. the newer glibc and libc-5 have they're own /usr/include/netatalk/at.h. you'll want to use that if SIOCATALKDIFADDR is in the kernel. anyways, i screwed up netatalk/endian.h a little which also causes a few problems as well as the defines for tcp wrappers. you'll need to change LIBWRAP in dsi_tcp.c to TCPWRAP if you actually want to use them. i'll have a patch out in a little bit which fixes those problems as well as fixing a fairly stupid one i made w/ signal handling. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 09:52:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA28653; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:52:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA28639; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:52:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA12547; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:51:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA12538; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:51:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netmedia.net.il by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA12526; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:51:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leyada.jlm.k12.il ([192.115.119.3]) by netmedia.net.il (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17419; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 16:52:46 +0200 (IST) Received: from MIN4100/MAIL_Q by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 30 Jun 97 16:51:29 +0200 Received: from MAIL_Q by MIN4100 (Mercury 1.21); 30 Jun 97 16:50:32 +0200 Received: from tycoon by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 30 Jun 97 16:50:22 +0200 Message-ID: <33B7B977.2781E494@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 16:49:43 +0300 From: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" Organization: Hebrew University High School X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Luther CC: Netatalk Admins Mailing List Subject: Re: Netatalk security aspects? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Jason Luther wrote: > > On Sat, 28 Jun 1997, Georg Schwarz wrote: > > xinetd and tcpwrappers (afaik) control connections to a host based on IP > address. xinetd is a replacement for inetd. > > > Are there any measures one should take in order to diminish the risk of > > a NetaTalk server getting hacked? For example, is it possible to > > restrict access to an explicite list of ethernet addresses only? > > Could and should one prevent users from exporting arbitrary directories? > > Thanks. However, if you have a router, or another firewall, etc..., you can authenticate by hardware addresses. Bye, Yannai. -- Yannai A. Gonczarowski System Administrator yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il The Hebrew University High School http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/~yannaigo/ "Do you want to know something? Everybody's human." "I find that remark insulting." - Kirk and Spock, "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered contry", stardate 9529.1 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 09:53:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA28782; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA28768; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:53:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA02434; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:53:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA02431; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:53:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA02416; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:53:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07051; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 06:52:28 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA28507; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 06:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 06:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199706301343.GAA28507@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: thies@digicol.de CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <33B7943F.C3512449@digicol.de> (thies@digicol.de) Subject: Re: Netatalk + asuns IP-Patches Without AppleTalk... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu so that brings something up in my brain: what about having a compile option that disables the appletalk option and "leaves" the ip option in, that would allow us to run netatalk on many, many more different unixes 'cause there wouldn't be any "kernel-stuff" to port?!? there's the somewhat secret "afpd -D" which disables the appletalk stuff at run-time. actually, my patches will disable appletalk if it can't set it up correctly. is that good enough? -a From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 09:59:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA29329; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA29300; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:59:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA04695; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:59:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA04687; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:59:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fw.digicol.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA04680; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:58:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from fwtk@localhost) by fw.digicol.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA12083; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:58:59 +0200 Received: from elvis.digicol.old(192.42.172.1) by fw.digicol.de via smap (V2.0beta) id xma012081; Mon, 30 Jun 97 15:58:53 +0200 Received: from thieso.digicol.de (thieso.digicol.de [194.25.133.77]) by digicol.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA151048; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:58:52 +0200 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:58:52 +0200 (CEST) From: "Thies C. Arntzen" To: a sun cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Netatalk + asuns IP-Patches Without AppleTalk... In-Reply-To: <199706301343.GAA28507@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, a sun wrote: > so that brings something up in my brain: > > what about having a compile option that disables the appletalk option > and "leaves" the ip option in, that would allow us to run netatalk on > many, many more different unixes 'cause there wouldn't be any > "kernel-stuff" to port?!? > > there's the somewhat secret "afpd -D" which disables the appletalk > stuff at run-time. actually, my patches will disable appletalk if it > can't set it up correctly. is that good enough? hi, hmm, not really...;-) 'cause it would be far nicer to be able to disableit at compile time.. i'd like to run it on platforms that aren't supported (hp-ux, aix...), and i believe that a port will be far easier when we can disable all the appletalk stuff while compiling.. the perfect thing would be to have an afpd (and maybe papd?!?!) that can be configured and compiled using gnu's configure style build... so far makefiles were allright, cause netatalk HAD TO be ported "by hand" due to the kernel stuff, but without appletalk?? regards, ct Thies C. Arntzen "One Big-Mac, Small Fries and a Coke!" Digital Collections Phone +49 40 235350 Fax +49 40 23535192 Hammerbrookstr. 93 20097 Hamburg / Germany From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 09:59:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA29339; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:59:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA29309; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:59:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA15015; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:58:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA15009; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:58:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA15003; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:58:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:58:46 +0200 Received: by lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de (940816.SGI.8.6.9/ZRZ-Gen) id PAA17755; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:58:44 +0200 Message-Id: <199706301358.PAA17755@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Subject: Re: Netatalk security aspects? In-Reply-To: from Jason Luther at "Jun 30, 97 08:21:33 am" To: jluther@uiuc.edu (Jason Luther), netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:58:44 +0200 (MEST) From: Georg Schwarz Reply-To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > On Sat, 28 Jun 1997, Georg Schwarz wrote: >=20 > xinetd and tcpwrappers (afaik) control connections to a host based on IP > address. xinetd is a replacement for inetd. will this really work for AppleTalk, which is *not* based on TCP/IP? --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik Tel. +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ Sekr. PN 7-1, Hardenbergstr. 36, D-10623 Berlin IRC: kuroi From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 10:07:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA00799; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:07:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA00769; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:07:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA18168; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:07:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA18161; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA18145; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:07:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07169; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 07:06:37 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA28521; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 06:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 06:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199706301358.GAA28521@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: thies@digicol.de CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: Subject: Re: Netatalk + asuns IP-Patches Without AppleTalk... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu i'd like to run it on platforms that aren't supported (hp-ux, aix...), and i believe that a port will be far easier when we can disable all the appletalk stuff while compiling.. hmm, it shouldn't be difficult to compile a version of afpd which actually can't run over appletalk on a generic machine. anyways, it's simple enough to add #ifdef's around relevant code. all the appletalk code is either included in main.c or afp_asp.c. the perfect thing would be to have an afpd (and maybe papd?!?!) that can be configured and compiled using gnu's configure style build... actually, configure would be a great idea that i've always thought should be done. is anyone willing to make up a patch to do that? wes? so far makefiles were allright, cause netatalk HAD TO be ported "by hand" due to the kernel stuff, but without appletalk?? well, the current strategy makes some files extremely ugly. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 10:14:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA01500; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:14:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA01451; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:13:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA10737; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:13:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA10723; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA10709; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:13:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Mon, 30 Jun 1997 16:05:54 +0200 Received: by lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de (940816.SGI.8.6.9/ZRZ-Gen) id QAA18213; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 16:05:51 +0200 Message-Id: <199706301405.QAA18213@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Subject: Re: Netatalk security aspects? In-Reply-To: <33B7B977.2781E494@leyada.jlm.k12.il> from "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" at "Jun 30, 97 04:49:43 pm" To: yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il (Yannai A. Gonczarowski), netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 16:05:51 +0200 (MEST) From: Georg Schwarz Reply-To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > However, if you have a router, or another firewall, etc..., you can > authenticate by hardware addresses. can I let Linux do that directly, without additional hardware? --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik Tel. +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ Sekr. PN 7-1, Hardenbergstr. 36, D-10623 Berlin IRC: kuroi From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 10:37:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA02966; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:37:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id KAA02954; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:37:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id KAA02952; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:37:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA02933; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706301437.KAA02933@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: a sun cc: thies@digicol.de, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Netatalk + asuns IP-Patches Without AppleTalk... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 30 Jun 1997 06:58:09 PDT." <199706301358.GAA28521@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:37:14 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: a sun > To: thies@digicol.de > actually, configure would be a great idea that i've always thought > should be done. is anyone willing to make up a patch to do that? wes? The point of GNU configure is mostly to allow users to run a program which will edit files that they would otherwise have to edit by hand. That's (mostly) not the case in netatalk, so I don't see the point. > well, the current strategy makes some files extremely ugly. Most of the machine-specific code in the netatalk package is isolated. Outside of the kernel, there's not much, as it's all been changed to use posix calls, where they are available. Before adding Solaris (which wasn't done very cleanly) there were three #ifdef's related to specific machines, one in main.c for ultrix old style openlog(), one in auth.c for ultrix groups, and a bunch in unix.c, since every flavor of unix has it's own way of getting the free space on a disk, and getting quotas. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 10:47:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA03486; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:47:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA03480; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA22867; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA22864; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:47:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from golden.brown.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA22856; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:47:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Steven_Carmody@brown.edu Received: from [128.148.176.61] (stcMACII.cis.brown.edu [128.148.176.61]) by golden.brown.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25339 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:46:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: Steven_Carmody@postoffice.brown.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:34:56 -0400 To: Netatalk Subject: Papd/ kerberos support..... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I found the following text in the Changes file that accompanies netatalk -- Its an intriguing comment. Unfortunately, looking at the code, I can't figure out how its supposed to work -- can anyone shed any light on this? thanks. >Changes from the 1.3.1 release: > > Added Kerberos support to papd. > From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 11:21:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA05712; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:21:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA05705; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:20:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA15240; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:20:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA15155; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:20:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from york.interport.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA15084; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:20:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from interport.net (cyerkes@madison.nfs.interport.net [205.161.144.1]) by york.interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04896; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:20:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from cyerkes@localhost) by interport.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA29352; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:20:02 -0400 (EDT) From: cyerkes Message-Id: <199706301520.LAA29352@interport.net> Subject: Re: Netatalk security aspects? To: jluther@uiuc.edu (Jason Luther) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 11:20:00 -0400 (EDT) Cc: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: from "Jason Luther" at Jun 30, 97 08:21:33 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu But the mac's don't necessarily HAVE an IP address - they just need to run appletalk. An inetd is used where in this equation? What tcp/udp ports am I using? I'd think that one correct answer about security is that if the cracker is on you LAN, your life is pretty miserable anyway. If it's I'net security as an issue, well, servers shouldn't be exposed to the Internet and the router(s) should not allow direct access to them in general. chuck -------------------- It is claimed, but unverified, that Jason Luther wrote: > > On Sat, 28 Jun 1997, Georg Schwarz wrote: > > xinetd and tcpwrappers (afaik) control connections to a host based on IP > address. xinetd is a replacement for inetd. > > > Are there any measures one should take in order to diminish the risk of > > a NetaTalk server getting hacked? For example, is it possible to > > restrict access to an explicite list of ethernet addresses only? > > Could and should one prevent users from exporting arbitrary directories? > > Thanks. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 12:18:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA07837; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 12:18:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA07832; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 12:18:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA26254; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 12:18:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA26248; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 12:18:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA26239; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 12:18:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Mon, 30 Jun 1997 18:17:59 +0200 Received: by lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de (940816.SGI.8.6.9/ZRZ-Gen) id SAA23297; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 18:17:58 +0200 Message-Id: <199706301617.SAA23297@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Subject: Netatalk software on r/o file system To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 18:17:57 +0200 (MEST) From: Georg Schwarz Reply-To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've installed netatalk 1.4b2 on Linux 2.0.29 with DESTDIR=3D/usr/local. However, on one of the machines I run it /usr is mounted read-only. Now when I launch atalkd I get the following messages: Jun 30 18:04:19 helena atalkd[93]: restart (1.4b2) Jun 30 18:04:20 helena atalkd[93]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 Jun 30 18:04:39 helena last message repeated 2 times Jun 30 18:04:49 helena atalkd[93]: config for no router Jun 30 18:04:50 helena atalkd[93]: /usr/local/etc/atalkd.tmp: Read-only fil= e system Jun 30 18:04:50 helena atalkd[93]: ready 0/0/0 it looks like atalkd assumes that the directory where it is located is writable. Can I explicitely tell atalkd not to and to use some different directory for temp files? Also, it looks like atalkd modifies its atald.conf file (or at least tries to). Both I think are bad practise. Such files, IMHO, should be located on either /tmp or /var. Maybe one could even call this a bug? Anyway, I tried to search trough the code but were unable to find out where exactly those tmp files are created. Any suggestions to overcome this problem short of relocating atalk to some locally writable directory? I'd like to mount one copy of netatalk to different machines. Thanks. --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik Tel. +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ Sekr. PN 7-1, Hardenbergstr. 36, D-10623 Berlin IRC: kuroi From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 13:35:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA09696; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 13:35:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA09692; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 13:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA23288; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 13:35:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA23284; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 13:35:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gomer.wiscnet.net by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id NAA23260; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 13:35:25 -0400 (EDT) From: mt@carthage.edu Received: from grace.carthage.edu ([198.150.93.69]) by gomer.wiscnet.net (8.6.9W/) with SMTP id MAA77674 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 12:35:18 -0500 Received: by grace.carthage.edu; Mon, 30 Jun 97 12:58:45 CDT Date: Mon, 30 Jun 97 12:34:48 CDT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: Re: ppp with Netatalk Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Helge and Kevin, Other approaches would include enabling appletalk on your linux box's ISDN interface, or on your hardware comm server; or you could do Appletalk over PPP: turn on appletalk on your linux box's ppp interface (is that possible?) or on your comm server. Note that only some comm servers know how to do appletalk over ppp or ISDN. Tribe has one for about $1.2k, which is what we use; and of course Cisco, etc., make capable ones, too, but they cost more. All four of the above solutions (appletalk over [PPP, ISDN] to [linux box, comm server]) require a PPP driver on the Mac that knows how to do appletalk, not just IP. An example is "LinkUPPP!" by FCR Software. Regards, -- Mark Kevin.Brown@NetComm.ie wrote: >Hi, >What you need is to found at : > >http://www.cs.mu.oz.au/appletalk/atalk.html > >Look at the UAR router, and the ADEV for the Mac. This allows a Atalk >tunnelllover UDP via PPP for the Mac. > >I use it al the time from home to get volumes via the chooser from home. > >I suspect FTP is faster, but this is convienient. Yes it works with >Netatalk 1.4b2. I have found the zones can get a big flakey at times. > >regards, > >Kevin > >At 17:58 +0100 23/6/97, Helge M=B8nnich wrote: >>Hi, >>my Linux-box is running Netatalk 1.4b2 and is the file-server for >>several macs. I want to connect the Linux-box (and hereby the mac-LAN) >>with a mac (with a pinocchio-card) from a outworker over ISDN. At the >>moment I do this with ftp, but the stuff with the creating of binarys >>and reverse take pains (not so much to buy a pinocchio or leonardo for >>one of the macs ;). >>Have someone suggestions to do this directly with Netatalk over e.g. >>ppp? >> >>Thanks for the attention, >>Helge > > >//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > Kevin Brown | N \ We operate in Ireland, UK > NetComm | e / and the Middle East > Internet Training, | t \ --DUBAI-- > Consultancy and Networking | C / Voice: +971-4-491476 > | o \ Fax: +971-4-492957 > Sun Microsystems | m / --UK-- > Internet Associate | m \ Voice: +44-467-365419 > | / Fax: +44-1276-35197 > The Internet | \ email: kevinbr@netcomm.ie > Experts | / info@netcomm.ie > | \ http://www.netcomm.ie > >\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Mark Tomory Network Coordinator Carthage College From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 14:04:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA10927; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 14:04:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from argos.saveas.com.ar by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA10917; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 14:04:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pastito@localhost) by argos.saveas.com.ar (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA27330; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:04:07 -0300 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:04:07 -0300 Message-Id: <199706301804.PAA27330@argos.saveas.com.ar> From: Fernan Rodriguez Cespedes To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: routing segments in appletalk (problem solved) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu List: I am posting this so it gets into de archive and other users can retrieve it and not have the same problem. My original question was posted before. The challenge was the following: 1.- I have 4 servers connected to a backbone (eth0 on all of them) 2.- Operating system is linux and kernels are (2.0.30 and 2.0.0) 3.- All the servers have a second NIC interface and some of them have macintosh clients (but I want to run appletlak on all segments in order to simply plug and play macs in my net). So I numbered the backbone with the net adress 100. Thus: Server1 = 100.1 (eth0) Server2 = 100.2 (eth0) Server3 = 100.3 (eth0) Server4 = 100.4 (eth0) Each of the client's segments was numbered like this: Server1 other segment = 101.1 (eth1) Server2 = 102.1 (eth1) and so on. I found out appletalk (or netatalk) would not route unless there is a zone declared for each segment. So here are the config files: Server1: eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 100 -addr 100.1 -zone "Backbone" eth1 -seed -phase 2 -net 101 -addr 101.1 -zone "Zone 1" Server2: eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 100 -addr 100.2 -zone "Backbone" eth1 -seed -phase 2 -net 102 -addr 102.1 -zone "Zone 2" Server3: eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 100 -addr 100.3 -zone "Backbone" eth1 -seed -phase 2 -net 103 -addr 103.1 -zone "Zone 3" Server4: eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 100 -addr 100.4 -zone "Backbone" eth1 -seed -phase 2 -net 104 -addr 104.1 -zone "Zone 4" First I thought it was the linux kernel, but seems both version 2.0.0 and 2.0.30 are ok. -- Saludos - Pastito Save As Linux http://www.saveas.com.ar http://www.linux.com.ar ftp://ftp.saveas.com.ar ftp://ftp.linux.com.ar pastito@saveas.com.ar pastito@linux.com.ar From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 15:35:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA14532; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA14528; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:35:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA16444; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:34:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA16438; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:34:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from grumpy.net.na by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id PAA16332; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:34:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from linux.lisse.na by grumpy.net.na with cbsmtp (Linux 1.0.8 Smail3.1.29.1 #9) id m0wilVX-000qBgC; Mon, 30 Jun 97 20:49 GMT+0200 Received: from [196.20.30.2] (mac.lisse.na [196.20.30.2]) by linux.lisse.na (8.8.6.Beta5/8.8.6.Beta5/el) with ESMTP id UAA10175; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 20:09:45 +0100 X-Sender: el@linux.lisse.na Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 20:09:36 +0100 To: Patrik Schindler , Dr Eberhard W Lisse From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse Subject: Re: Does Netatalk allow printer accounting ... Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 9:37 +0100 30/6/97, Patrik Schindler wrote: >> I can not see the printer from the Chooser of my LCIII. >> I can however mount the file system. > >I cannot see the LaserWriter in your nbplkup, too. What type of >connection does it have? Patrik, it is connected to the linux box at the parallel port and working. Here is my papd.conf: Mac Printer Spooler:\ :pr=lp:\ :pd=/usr/local/atalk/etc/laserwriter-select-310.pdf:\ op=el: Here is the output of nbplkup @* linux:AFPServer 65280.108:130 Mac Printer Spooler:LaserWriter 65280.108:128 linux:netatalk 65280.108:4 linux:Workstation 65280.108:4 mac: Macintosh 65496.1:253 mac:Workstation 65496.1:4 If you want to take this off the list we can continue this in German... el -- Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse\ / Swakopmund State Hospital * | Resident Medical Officer Private Bag 5004 \ / +264 81 124 6733 (cell) 64 461005(h) 461004(f) Swakopmund, Namibia ;____/ Domain Coordinator for NA-DOM (el108) Vice-Chairman, Board of Trustees, Namibian Internet Development Foundation, an Association not for Gain. NAMIDEF is the Namibian Internet Service Provider. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 16:13:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id QAA16961; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 16:13:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA16952; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 16:13:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA21544; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 16:13:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA21542; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 16:13:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA21041; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 16:11:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09361; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 12:48:52 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA00937; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 12:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 12:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199706301940.MAA00937@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: mfreeman@iglou.com, everette_allen@ncsu.edu, joakim.ahlen@mediaprint.se, greg@smithphoto.com, halset@pvv.ntnu.no, hannu@ddbn.ee, kateley@apple.com, jwa@jammed.com, mbbecker@mail.deforest.k12.wi.us, chandhok@within.com, netatalk@umich.edu, brasherj@zoology.washington.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu, appleshareip@private.lists.apple.com, wrstuden@loki.stanford.edu, richardk@iprolink.co.nz, kenp@nmrfam.wisc.edu, schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov, mego@url.de, wrd@awenet.com Subject: afp/tcp patch 2.0a10 now available Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu the a10 version of my afp/tcp patches to netatalk-1.4b2 are now available. you can get them at: tarred source: diff from a9: things fixed: linux libc5 define booboo signal handlers that send data/tcp should now block properly. underlying tcp read/write routines cleaned up a bit. 64-bit problem w/ sizeof(pointer) != sizeof(u_char [4]) tcp wrapper support should work again. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jun 30 17:33:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id RAA20273; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 17:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA20269; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 17:32:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA22155; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 17:32:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA22152; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 17:32:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gauntlet.ht.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA22141; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 17:32:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by gauntlet.ht.com; id RAA03547; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 17:32:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unknown(10.0.100.2) by gauntlet.ht.com via smap (3.2) id xma003545; Mon, 30 Jun 97 17:32:47 -0400 Received: by ht.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/3.1.090690-High Techsplanations) id VAA17917; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 21:33:09 GMT From: "Fred Taheri" Message-Id: <9706301733.ZM17915@he.ht.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 17:33:09 -0400 In-Reply-To: Thomas Lamy "Re: Error while copying" (Jun 30, 8:18am) References: <97Jun30.093544gmt.20481@conngw.v-connect.com> mailer: Mailer Data X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: SUMMARY: Error while copying Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ORIGINAL QUESTION: > >Hi Folks, > > > >I just installed Netatalk version 1.3.3 for Intel platform on my > >Linux Red Hat version 2.0.27. My problem is when copying files > >from a Mac to any volumes listed in file AppleVolumes.system, I > >get the following error message: > > > > > > The item "filename" could not be > > copied because the file cannot > > be found. > > > > > >Volumes listed in file AppleVolumes.default do not create > >the same error message. Just to be sure permission is not the > >problem, I set both volumes to be the same. Here is a what I > >have for each volume: > > > ># cat AppleVolumes.default > >~ "private home" > > > ># cat AppleVolumes.system > >~ "private" > > > >Thanks, > > > >Fred Taheri > >fred@ht.com > ANSWER: I am using SpeedCopy which does not work with Netatalk. Thanks to quick response from: Patrik Schindler and Thomas Lamy. > Do you use CopyDoubler or SpeedCopy? -> Do not use them. > They seem to use AFP-Calls which Netatalk-afpd doesn't recognize. > I expirience this with ntatalk 1.4b2, too. - Patrik > Seems like you're using SpeedCopy from Connectix. It breaks w/ netatalk. > Use CopyDoubler from Symantec, or Finder copying. > - Thomas From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 1 01:11:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id BAA07275; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 01:11:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id BAA07271; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 01:11:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA13351; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 01:10:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA13346; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 01:10:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news.mtu.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id BAA13336; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 01:10:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtu.edu (mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA28488; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 01:10:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (bioserver.bio.mtu.edu [141.219.40.72]) by mtu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA01736; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 01:10:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (edan@localhost) by bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (8.6.13/MTU-R1.9) with SMTP id BAA05762; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 01:11:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: bioserver.bio.mtu.edu: edan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 01:11:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@bioserver.bio.mtu.edu To: Dr Eberhard W Lisse cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: Does Netatalk allow printer accounting ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote: > it is connected to the linux box at the parallel port and working. [ snip ] > Mac Printer Spooler:\ > :pr=lp:\ > :pd=/usr/local/atalk/etc/laserwriter-select-310.pdf:\ > op=el: I use LPRng with Solaris 2.5, so my experience has almost no bearing with yours, BUT--I've only ever been able to get netatalk to print using :pr=|/path/to/my/lpr -Pprinter: For what it's worth. > If you want to take this off the list we can continue this in > German... We can take it off the list, if you like, but, nine ech da lictenstein und da veinerschtizel. Stupech Merkin no spich unie German. Gahnow? - edan -- Edan Idzerda System Administrator -- Michigan Technological University, Houghton MI USA From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 1 02:04:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id CAA08438; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 02:04:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iglou1 by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with SMTP id CAA08434; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 02:04:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mfreeman by iglou1 with smtp (8.7.3/8.6.12) id 0wiUPd-0003bC-00; Sun, 29 Jun 1997 20:33:49 -0400 Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 20:33:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael M. Freeman" X-Sender: mfreeman@iglou1 To: Fernan Rodriguez Cespedes cc: andy@focus.demon.co.uk, netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199706292230.TAA29228@argos.saveas.com.ar> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sun, 29 Jun 1997, Fernan Rodriguez Cespedes wrote: > > First, thanks for all the people who wrote me an answer to my > problem. I am sorry I posted the example with network ranges (I tried > that in desperation and then forgot about it and did a cut and paste). > > Basically my setup was right. The real problem is broken appletalk > code in linux's 2.0.30 kernel. I thank specially > > Andrew Norman > > who said he will send me a patch. Is this a modified ddp.c (maybe version 0.17B) ??? If so an explaination is due to this list from me (or Andy Norman or Alan Cox). Regards Mike Freeman From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 1 02:47:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id CAA09323; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 02:47:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zao.or.jp by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id CAA09319; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 02:47:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 202.212.141.43 by mail.zao.or.jp with SMTP (MailShare 1.0fc6); Tue, 1 Jul 1997 15:44:22 +0900 Message-ID: <33B926B6.9DA@zao.or.jp> Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 15:48:10 +0000 From: kazunori miura Reply-To: kazu@zao.or.jp Organization: zao-net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: Netatalk on NetBSD(MacBSD) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu hello! all I am trying to make natatalk1.4b on MacBSD. But something wrong while compiling. Does anyoune run nateatalk on MacBSD? Please advice me. -- _________________________________ kazunori miura zao-net system manager yamagata city yamagata prefecture kazu@zao.or.jp _________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 1 04:21:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id EAA10965; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 04:21:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from intra1.datamonitor.com by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA10921; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 04:20:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.52.51] (who-52-51.datamonitor.com [192.168.52.51]) by intra1.datamonitor.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA16492; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:20:37 +0100 Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:20:37 +0100 X-Sender: andy@intra1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu From: Andy Norman Subject: NBP lookup problems with Linux Cc: mfreeman@iglou.com Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu It seems that more people are running into this problem. The symptoms of this problem are that you can't "see" Macs and printers that are connected to a remote Linux AppleTalk router (by remote I mean a router that you are not directly connected to). The problem is with NBP lookups on remote zones (i.e. zones two routers away). This prevents you from seeing devices on the other side of a Linux AppleTalk router if there are two routers between you and the Macs you are trying to see (the local router doesn't need to be a Linux one, only the remote). I am hoping the patch will be rolled into 2.0.31 The basic problem is that the Linux kernel code wasn't correctly converting the NBP lookup packets into NBP broadcast requests before passing them onto the target network. I think this description is mostly right, I sure Mike will let us know if it isn't. Mike Freeman and Alan Cox came up with this correct patch after I identified the problem and created my own ugly hack. If you need the patch here it is. This probably won't patch cleanly in this form (word et al), but it is very easy to apply by hand): 25a26 > * Alan Cox/Mike Freeman/Andy Norman : Possible fix to NBP >problems 155c156,157 < ||to->sat_addr.s_node == ATADDR_BCAST )) --- > ||to->sat_addr.s_node == ATADDR_BCAST > ||to->sat_addr.s_node == ATADDR_ANYNODE )) 512,513c514,517 < if((node==ATADDR_BCAST || iface->address.s_node==node) < && iface->address.s_net==net && !(iface->status&ATIF_PROBE)) --- > if((node==ATADDR_BCAST || node==ATADDR_ANYNODE > || iface->address.s_node==node) > && iface->address.s_net==net > && !(iface->status&ATIF_PROBE)) -- Andy Norman Datamonitor Group IT Co-ordinator ANorman@datamonitor.com andy@focus.demon.co.uk http://www.datamonitor.com Tel: 0171 316 0792 Mobile: 0966 148131 Fax: 0171 316 0002 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 1 04:36:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id EAA15629; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 04:36:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA15463; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 04:36:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA01003; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 04:35:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA01000; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 04:35:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA00996; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 04:35:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.7.3) id KAA19760; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:35:49 +0200 Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:35:48 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: Netatalk Subject: Re: Netatalk software on r/o file system In-Reply-To: <199706301617.SAA23297@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Also, it looks like atalkd modifies its atald.conf file (or at least > tries to). Yep, it does, 'cause it tries to write down it's actual configuration. This may change, because Macs adresses arent static. PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 1 04:55:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id EAA25255; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 04:55:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA25251; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 04:55:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA01616; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 04:55:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA01614; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 04:55:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mri-1.mri-jma.go.jp by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA01604; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 04:55:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mrimng by mri-1.mri-jma.go.jp (8.7.4/TISN-1.3M/R2+MRI-JMA-1.0) id RAA01547; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:57:56 +0900 (JST) Received: from [160.202.13.144] (cl-144) by mrimng (4.1/TISN-1.3M/R2+MRI-JMA-1.0) id AA04347; Tue, 1 Jul 97 17:55:18 JST X-Sender: hyoshimu@mrimng.mri-jma.go.jp Message-Id: X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 2.1.3-Jr2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:55:59 +0900 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: hyoshimu@mri-jma.go.jp (Yoshimura Hiromasa) Subject: [Q] final of netatalk1.4 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm using netatalk 1.4b2 on a Ultra 1 running Solaris 2.5.1. When will the final of netatalk 1.4 be released ? Thank you in advance. -- Hiromasa Yoshimura (hyoshimu@mri-jma.go.jp) Climate Research Department, Meteorological Research Institute From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 1 05:37:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id FAA26094; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 05:37:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from intra1.datamonitor.com by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id FAA26089; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 05:37:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.52.51] (who-52-51.datamonitor.com [192.168.52.51]) by intra1.datamonitor.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA17964; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:37:39 +0100 Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:37:39 +0100 X-Sender: andy@intra1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Patrik Schindler From: Andy Norman Subject: Re: NBP lookup problems with Linux Cc: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 11:04 am +0200 on 1/7/97, Patrik Schindler wrote: > > Mike Freeman and Alan Cox came up with this correct patch after I > > identified the problem and created my own ugly hack. > > > > If you need the patch here it is. This probably won't patch cleanly in this > > form (word et al), but it is very easy to apply by hand): > > Sorry for my stupid question, but to what file should it be applied? Not a stupid question at all, just me being stupid... The file in question is: /usr/src/linux/net/appletalk/ddp.c -- Andy Norman Datamonitor Group IT Co-ordinator ANorman@datamonitor.com andy@focus.demon.co.uk http://www.datamonitor.com Tel: 0171 316 0792 Mobile: 0966 148131 Fax: 0171 316 0002 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 1 09:00:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA29065; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:00:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id IAA29055; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 08:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id IAA29053; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 08:59:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA29040; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 08:59:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707011259.IAA29040@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: hyoshimu@mri-jma.go.jp (Yoshimura Hiromasa) cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [Q] final of netatalk1.4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 01 Jul 1997 17:55:59 +0900." Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 08:59:41 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: hyoshimu@mri-jma.go.jp (Yoshimura Hiromasa) > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > When will the final of netatalk 1.4 be released ? Since I'm re-writing the solaris kernel module, the next version will be 1.4b3. I'm planning for a non-public alpha around the 9th. I may also include afp/tcp in that release. Assuming that all is well, 1.4 will follow sometime after that. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 1 09:20:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA29869; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:20:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA29865; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA10319; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:20:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA10315; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:20:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gatekeeper.prl.philips.co.uk by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA10294; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:20:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by gatekeeper.prl.philips.co.uk; id OAA14654; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 14:26:03 +0100 (BST) Received: from prlhp1.prl.research.philips.com(130.141.10.82) by gatekeeper.prl.philips.co.uk via smap (V3.1.1) id xma014613; Tue, 1 Jul 97 14:25:36 +0100 Received: from prsun11 by prlhp1.prl.research.philips.com; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 14:21:38 +0100 Received: from eddie.is.prl.philips.co.uk (jon@eddie [130.141.142.11]) by prl.research.philips.com (8.8.5/prsun11) with ESMTP id OAA13732; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 14:21:23 +0100 (BST) From: Jon Piesing Received: (from jon@localhost) by eddie.is.prl.philips.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.3) id OAA14409; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 14:21:21 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 14:21:21 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199707011321.OAA14409@eddie.is.prl.philips.co.uk> To: wesley.craig@umich.edu Subject: Re: [Q] final of netatalk1.4 Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > From: hyoshimu@mri-jma.go.jp (Yoshimura Hiromasa) > > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > > > When will the final of netatalk 1.4 be released ? > > Since I'm re-writing the solaris kernel module, the next version will > be 1.4b3. I'm planning for a non-public alpha around the 9th. I may > also include afp/tcp in that release. Assuming that all is well, 1.4 > will follow sometime after that. > > :wes > Thanks for answering this one. One of your earlier emails said that the Solaris kernel module didn't do AppleTalk routing and would not do so until re-written. If this is correct, will AppleTalk routing form part of the 1.4b3 re-write ? Thanks for the continuing good work. Jon From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 1 09:35:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA00592; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:35:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id JAA00588; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:35:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id JAA00586; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:35:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA00568; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 09:35:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707011335.JAA00568@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Jon Piesing cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [Q] final of netatalk1.4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 01 Jul 1997 14:21:21 BST." <199707011321.OAA14409@eddie.is.prl.philips.co.uk> Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 09:35:02 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Jon Piesing > To: wesley.craig@umich.edu > One of your earlier emails said that the Solaris kernel module didn't > do AppleTalk routing and would not do so until re-written. If this is > correct, will AppleTalk routing form part of the 1.4b3 re-write ? The re-write will allow routing, AppleTalk firewalls (as the SunOS version does), and will hopefully fix other routing table bugs, and the panics. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 1 10:43:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA02840; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:43:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA02833; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA08090; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:43:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA08079; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:43:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scarlet.dis.strath.ac.uk by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA07891; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:43:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mull.dis.strath.ac.uk (mull.dis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.120.1]) by scarlet.dis.strath.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/2.0A) with ESMTP id PAA08310 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 15:41:49 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mull.dis.strath.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/2.0S) with SMTP id PAA01390 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 15:43:00 +0100 (BST) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Netatalk & aliases - anyone looked at CAP? Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 15:42:58 +0100 Message-ID: <1388.867768178@dis.strath.ac.uk> From: Duncan Sinclair Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, In all this discussion on afpd and broken aliases, did anyone look at the solution provided by CAP? Below are the notes from the CAP source about how it works. Briefly, it uses a separate "afpidsrvr" process which manages a database of directory and file ids for all file servers. The id server is really only to ensure smooth shared access. I think a good implementation would allow the file server to work without the id server, to ensure resiliance. I'm not sure how necessary a global scheme is, can someone explain why these ids can't be per afp volume? After all, they are only used in the context of a named volume. Cheers, Duncan. -------------------------------- afpidsrvr --------- This provides aufs with permanent external directory and file id's. Rather than remembering pathnames, Mac's often store a number for the directory and the name of the file. These id's must be mapped by aufs onto the Unix file system - thus the term "external id's". External id's are used extensively by the alias manager, and also affect QuickTime. aufs's problem is that it forgets the id's after each session. This causes many problems, the greatest being that aliases do not work properly. The previous, and still default, version created external id's as required in a linear manner. These are mapped onto pointers - internally aufs holds the directory picture as a tree. An array of these pointers, indexed by the external id, was used to perform the external to internal mapping. The reverse mapping was achieved primarily by a field in the internal directory records. This new version uses a central database to hold the external id's. Various schemes were examined, including the use of inode numbers. Most were rejected on the realisation that a single scheme had to cover the whole file system: you cannot assign numbers by volumes. The database is single-writer/multi-reader. aufs processes read id/path pairs from the database, but if they want to add entries they send a request to the 'afpidsrvr'. The use of a server at least ensures consistency is maintained, gets around the basic problem of the lack of locks, and preserves some security. So far, at least, the system has worked without locks - aufs does re-open databases after it detects change, to avoid some problems. Security is not particularly strict - the server will not create entries if directories don't exist, and will not remove entries for existing directories. The system is not foolproof, and can have problems if the database gets corrupted, but there we are. The current version (1.1) of the database is the second go. The first version contained two sets of entries: fullpath->id and id->fullpath. This worked fine until the system tried to delete or move directory trees - it just moved the top one, and left the children in their original places. The second version mirrors the directory structure in providing a tree. Moving and deleting now alters the tree structure. This means that many more accesses are required, but the records themselves are on average smaller. Each record, looked up by key N, consists of: There is also an initial record consisting of the databased version and the root id. As well as a the afpidsrvr server there is an afpidtool, which can send messages directly to the server, and afpidlist, which will list the database. The system is by no means foolproof. Expect problems if different people are working on the same area - aufs still cannot detect automatically that other processes have changed the Unix filestructure. Since the server routines pass a fullpath back to aufs itself, and let it then decode that into the internal aufs directory tree, if the name is changed by another process, then aufs may see a whole new path. If this proves a problem, a mechanism will be required to pass back the information to aufs - it is essentially a problem with the aufs/afpidsrvr interface, rather than with afpidsrvr itself. One possibility would be to passback a list of extId/name pairs, rather than a path. If the names changed than aufs would realise that, and could change its internal record. I've no idea how it would tell the Mac though! Another area of concern is in the integrity of the database. The current database should not get corrupted, but if it does the programs are not very resiliant to it - the contents of a record are believed. It is not particularly clear how this will workout in practice - my experience with corruptions is limited to problems during testing, when bugs caused process crashes. If corruptions turn out to be a problem, then some extra checks will be required. To be worth while, adding CRC checks to the database records is probably required. For the moment the simple scheme seems preferable. Do note that, in the extreme case, you may have to delete the database in /usr/local/lib/cap and start again. If you do this, ensure you stop both afpidsrvr and aufs first - neither like this event! This will obviously cause problems to users. The previous version of afpidsrvr had a clean function, which was intended to remove unused and faulty entries. This is currently non-operative, but may be re-instated in the future. In will be noted that afpidsrvr is optional. Why might you not wish to use this: * There is a performance penalty, and you might not wish to pay it. In practice, there is a slight penalty on startup, and in opening folders for the first time - especially new ones. The only "bad case" scenario that actually occurs is the reverse lookup of an id to a pathname, which is then converted to an internal pointer by a second tree semi-traversal. My experience with a Sun II server suggests that this delay is negligable. * Reliability. The system has, currently, only been tested on a Sun II server. There may be minor problems elsewhere, but there is nothing to suggest that there should be huge problems. I'm still not sure about the big-endian/little-endian situation, but I believe that providing the database is not moved from one machine to another there should be no problem. * NFS. We do not use NFS much, and I have little experience of it. I would only expect problems if the aufs server for the same area ran on serveral machines, but there are several suspect areas. * Portability. The system runs under SunOS4.1. I have not tested it on other systems - not even Solaris. The chief problem areas may be in named sockets, which are used to send the information between client processes and the server. On other systems you my have to use equivalents. On a final point, the modified server does contain emergency code for use if the server ceases to function. This should never happen in normal running, but may if errors are hit. This backup mechanism actually reflects v1.0 if the database, and just records name/id pairs. It is anything but efficient, and is merely intended to avoid having to crash the server. Really there ought to be a few bells ringing if this happens, but there are not! [Perhaps in a future version, if something thinks of a good interface.] It is suggested that this should not be used routinely - not least it has problems still with moving and deleting sub-trees of directories - and is very inefficient. In case you wonder why not just fall back on the default scheme, the assumption is that the existing database is fine, but cannot be modified. Installation and Use -------------------- To use the file/directory ID server, select the FIXED_DIRIDS option in the m4.features file. Re-run gen.makes, 'make clean' and rebuild CAP. When compiled and installed, you will get the additional tools afpidsrvr, afpidlist and afpidtool in your cap bin directory - along with the modified aufs. To bring them into operation, you must: * Modify /etc/rc.local or your start-cap-servers file to place the following lines, or similar, before you start aufs: rm /usr/local/lib/cap/afpIDsock afpidsrvr -l /usr/adm/afpidsrvr.log Then restart as appropriate. The first call to afpidsrvr will create the database, and aufs processes will then use it. Note the first line is to delete the socket used for communication. This normally happens when afpidsrvr exits, but may not if the machine crashes. In normal running, you should be careful about running this - ensure there is no afpidsrvr server running. This will only happen in normal running if the afpidsrvr falls over. If this does happen, run afpidlist first to ensure you can printout the database. If you have real problems, you may have to close down aufs and delete the database before continuing. You may prefer to try to restore the database off backup. John Forrest, jf@ap.co.umist.ac.uk -------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 1 10:45:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA02994; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:45:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from argos.saveas.com.ar by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA02966; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:45:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pastito@localhost) by argos.saveas.com.ar (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA27692; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:44:56 -0300 Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:44:56 -0300 Message-Id: <199707011444.LAA27692@argos.saveas.com.ar> From: Fernan Rodriguez Cespedes To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: Mac clients loose network drives Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu After installing and routing netatalk I find Mac clients loose network drives now and then... I saw a previous message with this same question but don't remember the answer. -- Saludos - Pastito Save As Linux http://www.saveas.com.ar http://www.linux.com.ar ftp://ftp.saveas.com.ar ftp://ftp.linux.com.ar pastito@saveas.com.ar pastito@linux.com.ar From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 1 11:46:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA05070; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:46:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA05065; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:46:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA29021; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:46:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA29002; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:46:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA28978; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:46:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:46:23 +0200 Received: by lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de (940816.SGI.8.6.9/ZRZ-Gen) id RAA19101; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:46:21 +0200 Message-Id: <199707011546.RAA19101@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Subject: tcpd.h? To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:46:21 +0200 (MEST) From: Georg Schwarz Reply-To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm trying to compile netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a10 on a Linux 2.0.29 (Slackwar= e) installation. I get=20 dsi_tcp.c:18: tcpd.h: No such file or directory netatalk-1.4b2 compiles and works fine on that machine. AppleTalk support is included in the kernel. What am I doing wrong? I've got the feeling that it must be a really stupid mistake. Where is tcpd.h supposed to be found? Thanks. --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik Tel. +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ Sekr. PN 7-1, Hardenbergstr. 36, D-10623 Berlin IRC: kuroi From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 1 12:33:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA07150; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:33:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA07125; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:33:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA15486; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:33:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA15479; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:33:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leela.poc.pingnet.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA15463; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:33:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.148.12.130] (powermac.poc.pingnet.de [194.148.12.130]) by leela.poc.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA02077 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 18:33:32 +0200 X-Sender: poc@leela.poc.pingnet.de Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 01:38:35 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: AppleTalk Tunnel available? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, Linux Kernels 2.0.x support a feature named tunneling (CONFIG_NET_IPIP). Does anyone know, whether there's an AppleTalk Tunnel out there (CONFIG_NET_ATALKIP)? PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 1 13:38:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA08931; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:38:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA08927; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:38:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA13417; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:38:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA13401; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from email.cybergrafx.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA13368; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:38:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elseed.cybergrafx.com (bridge.cybergrafx.com [207.211.125.1]) by email.cybergrafx.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA05637 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:37:55 -0400 Message-Id: <199707011737.NAA05637@email.cybergrafx.com> From: "Michael Rothwell" To: Subject: papd and LPRng ... not working ... Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:38:03 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, everyone! I like netatalk. It's much better then NT. HOWEVER, I'm having a problem getting my Netatalk 1.4b2 installation on Linux 2.0.29 (Slackware 3.2 + patches) using LPRng. I keep getting the following message: Jul 1 13:26:21 earth papd[2061]: lp_conn_unix connect /dev/printer: Connection refused Jul 1 13:26:21 earth papd[2061]: lp_print: lp_conn_unix: Connection refused Great. Fine. But I never refer to /dev/printer anywhere, at all, on my system. It's /dev/lp1. Samba prints fine, catting PS files to /dev/lp1 works, cat xxx.ps | lpr works... but papd doesn't work. Anyone got any suggestions? Michael Rothwell Director Network Services Department CyberGrafx rothwell@cybergrafx.com Voice: (919) 851-7777 Fax : (919) 851-6767 http://www.cybergrafx.com/ From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 1 13:41:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA09138; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA09132; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:41:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA08272; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:41:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA08248; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:41:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from email.cybergrafx.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA08212; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:41:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elseed.cybergrafx.com (bridge.cybergrafx.com [207.211.125.1]) by email.cybergrafx.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA05643 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:41:36 -0400 Message-Id: <199707011741.NAA05643@email.cybergrafx.com> From: "Michael Rothwell" To: Subject: ntimelord and linux.. not compiling... Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:41:44 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello. I've read the mailing list, and someone made the comment that ntimelord will compile on linux, no problem. Well, problem. I get this: server# timelord.c:215: structure has no member named `tm_gmtoff' server# make: *** [timelord.o] Error 1 I'm running netatalk 1.4b2, Linux 2.0.29, slackware 3.2 + patches and libc 5.4.23. If I ever get it to compile correctly, I'll post a Linux binary to my ftp server. Michael Rothwell Director Network Services Department CyberGrafx rothwell@cybergrafx.com Voice: (919) 851-7777 Fax : (919) 851-6767 http://www.cybergrafx.com/ From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 1 13:59:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA10230; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:59:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA10221; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:59:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA20718; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:59:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA20715; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:59:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA20708; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:59:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15066; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:57:27 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA02527; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 10:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707011757.KAA02527@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199707011546.RAA19101@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> (message from Georg Schwarz on Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:46:21 +0200 (MEST)) Subject: Re: tcpd.h? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm trying to compile netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a10 on a Linux 2.0.29 (Slackwar= e) installation. I get=20 dsi_tcp.c:18: tcpd.h: No such file or directory i guess i forgot to mention that people should read README.TCP and README.LINUX (if appropriate). it has some instructions on enabling/disabling particular features. in your case, you don't have the tcp wrapper libraries. if you really want to serve an afpd w/out host-based access, just go to sys/linux/Makefile and get rid of -DTCPWRAP and -lwrap. actually, you should get rid of -lcrypt as well as you're probably using libc5. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 1 14:20:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA11282; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 14:20:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from argos.saveas.com.ar by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA11271; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 14:20:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pastito@localhost) by argos.saveas.com.ar (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA01510; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 15:15:17 -0300 Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 15:15:17 -0300 Message-Id: <199707011815.PAA01510@argos.saveas.com.ar> From: Fernan Rodriguez Cespedes To: mfreeman@iglou.com CC: andy@focus.demon.co.uk, netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In-reply-to: (mfreeman@iglou.com) Subject: Re: your mail Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >>>>> "Michael" == Michael M Freeman writes: Michael> Is this a modified ddp.c (maybe version 0.17B) ??? If so Michael> an explaination is due to this list from me (or Andy Michael> Norman or Alan Cox). I do not know because I have not received the patch yet. Anyway, when I run netatalk on the 2.0.30 kernel my macs in that segment keep loosing their network drives. Please somebody help! -- Saludos - Pastito Save As Linux http://www.saveas.com.ar http://www.linux.com.ar ftp://ftp.saveas.com.ar ftp://ftp.linux.com.ar pastito@saveas.com.ar pastito@linux.com.ar From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 1 15:20:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA15160; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 15:20:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA15156; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 15:20:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id MAA19435; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:19:07 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:19:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: kazunori miura cc: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: Re: Netatalk on NetBSD(MacBSD) In-Reply-To: <33B926B6.9DA@zao.or.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, kazunori miura wrote: > hello! all > I am trying to make natatalk1.4b on MacBSD. > But something wrong while compiling. > Does anyoune run nateatalk on MacBSD? You need to be compiling the version on toccata.fugue.com. The 1.4b2 release didn't have the netatalk patches in it. You can get a patched version at: ftp://toccata.fugue.com/pub/netbsd-atalk/ Actually, toccata.fugue.com, or something between me and it, seems sick right now. I'm trying to get a copy up on puma (ftp.macbsd.com). When it's there, it'll be in pub/NetBSD/contrib/netatalk when I get things set up. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 1 17:00:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id RAA18255; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:00:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA18251; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:00:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA22354; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:00:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA22345; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:00:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hook.beacon.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id RAA22333; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:00:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rafiki (rafiki.beacon.com) by hook.beacon.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25521; Tue, 1 Jul 97 17:01:09 EDT Message-Id: <33B96FB5.16D9@beacon.com> Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 16:59:33 -0400 From: "Patrick M. Frazer" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4c) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: ushare to netatalk resource fork conversion? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all- We have a bunch of old servers, all using IPT's UShare package to provide net access to our Solaris filsystems. I also have a brand-new file server (running Netatalk) with a RAID that I want to move all the data onto. The problem: we're talking about over 50 gigs of data and I'd need some killer Macs (which I don't have) to move that much data in a reasonable amount of time. What I would rather do is to move the data from one Unix filesystem to another, then convert the UShare resource forks into the format used by Netatalk. Does anyone have any ideas or pointers to get me started? I've done enough analysis to discover that the two packages' forks are very different, but that's it. Pointers to detailed specs of the different resource fork layouts would suffice; I've already accepted the fact that I'll probably be writing a conversion program... Any thoughts would be appreciated... -Patrick - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Patrick M. Frazer mailto:frazer@beacon.com Computer Engineer http://www.beacon.com/~frazer The Beacon Group P 419.289.0558 x141 F 289.8923 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 1 17:50:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id RAA19490; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:50:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA19486; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA26910; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:49:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA26905; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:49:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay1.shore.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA26871; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:49:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jik.shore.net (jik@jik.shore.net [198.115.179.23]) by relay1.shore.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA11167; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:49:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jik@localhost) by jik.shore.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id RAA31976; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:49:01 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:49:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199707012149.RAA31976@jik.shore.net> From: "Jonathan I. Kamens" To: rothwell@cybergrafx.com CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199707011737.NAA05637@email.cybergrafx.com> (rothwell@cybergrafx.com) Subject: Re: papd and LPRng ... not working ... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu LPRng doesn't queue the same was BSD LPR does. I modified netatalk to use support LPRng by using "lpr" to queue jobs rather than trying to insert them directly into the queue directory. I submitted my patches (against netatalk-1.4b2) to the folks who maintain netatalk, but I don't know if they've integrated them into the current beta release. If not, I suppose it's because either (a) they're very busy working on other functionality, or (b) we had some philosophical differences over how I implemented my changes, so they decided they wanted to do it differently, but haven't gotten around to it. In any case, I've appended the patch below. Apply it to etc/papd/lp.c, and then define LPRNG when compiling papd (perhaps in sys/linux/Makefile), and you should be all set. jik --- lp.c 1997/04/08 02:22:50 1.1 +++ lp.c 1997/07/01 21:47:21 @@ -64,6 +64,15 @@ #include #include +#ifdef LPRNG +#include +#include + +#ifndef LPR +#define LPR "/usr/bin/lpr" +#endif +#endif /* LPRNG */ + #include "printer.h" #include "file.h" @@ -167,9 +176,11 @@ lp_init( out ) struct papfile *out; { +#ifndef LPRNG int fd, n, len; char *cp, buf[ BUFSIZ ]; struct stat st; +#endif #ifdef ABS_PRINT char cost[ 22 ]; char balance[ 22 ]; @@ -207,6 +218,7 @@ lp.lp_letter = 'A'; if ( printer->p_flags & P_SPOOLED ) { +#ifndef LPRNG /* check if queuing is enabled: mode & 010 on lock file */ if ( stat( printer->p_lock, &st ) < 0 ) { syslog( LOG_ERR, "lp_init: %s: %m", printer->p_lock ); @@ -252,6 +264,7 @@ lseek( fd, 0L, 0 ); write( fd, buf, strlen( buf )); close( fd ); +#endif } else { lp.lp_flags |= LP_PIPE; lp.lp_seq = getpid(); @@ -283,9 +296,19 @@ return( -1 ); } } else { +#ifdef LPRNG + sprintf( name, "%spapd.%d%c", _PATH_VARTMP, getpid(), lp.lp_letter++ ); +#else sprintf( name, "df%c%03d%s", lp.lp_letter++, lp.lp_seq, hostname ); +#endif - if (( fd = open( name, O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, 0660 )) < 0 ) { + if (( fd = open( name, O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, +#ifdef LPRNG + 0600 +#else + 0660 +#endif + )) < 0 ) { syslog( LOG_ERR, "lp_open %s: %m", name ); spoolerror( out, NULL ); return( -1 ); @@ -340,8 +363,13 @@ lp_close(); } + for ( letter = 'A'; letter < lp.lp_letter; letter++ ) { +#ifdef LPRNG + sprintf( name, "%spapd.%d%c", _PATH_VARTMP, getpid(), letter ); +#else sprintf( name, "df%c%03d%s", letter, lp.lp_seq, hostname ); +#endif if ( unlink( name ) < 0 ) { syslog( LOG_ERR, "lp_cancel unlink %s: %m", name ); } @@ -371,6 +399,73 @@ lp_close(); if ( printer->p_flags & P_SPOOLED ) { + char *job, *person; +#ifdef LPRNG + char **argv, **ptr, **fileptr; + pid_t pid; +#endif + + job = (lp.lp_job && *lp.lp_job) ? lp.lp_job : "Mac Job"; + person = lp.lp_person ? lp.lp_person : printer->p_operator; + +#ifdef LPRNG + if (! ((ptr = argv = (char **) malloc(sizeof(*argv) * + (6 + (lp.lp_letter - 'A')))) && + (*ptr++ = (char *) malloc(sizeof("lpr"))) && + (*ptr++ = (char *) malloc(strlen(printer->p_printer) + 3)) &&/* -P */ + (*ptr++ = (char *) malloc(strlen(job) + 3)) && /* -J */ + (*ptr++ = (char *) malloc(strlen(job) + 3)) && /* -T */ + (*ptr++ = (char *) malloc(strlen(person) + 3)))) { /* -U */ + syslog( LOG_ERR, "malloc: %m" ); + exit( 1 ); + } + + for ( letter = 'A'; letter < lp.lp_letter; letter++ ) { + if (! (*ptr++ = (char *) malloc( strlen(_PATH_VARTMP) + 20 ))) { + syslog( LOG_ERR, "malloc: %m" ); + exit( 1 ); + } + } + + ptr = argv; + + (void) sprintf( *ptr++, "lpr" ); + (void) sprintf( *ptr++, "-P%s", printer->p_printer ); + (void) sprintf( *ptr++, "-J%s", job ); + (void) sprintf( *ptr++, "-T%s", job ); + (void) sprintf( *ptr++, "-U%s", person ); + + fileptr = ptr; + + for ( letter = 'A'; letter < lp.lp_letter; letter++ ) + (void) sprintf( *ptr++, "%spapd.%d%c", _PATH_VARTMP, getpid(), letter ); + + *ptr = NULL; + + signal( SIGCHLD, SIG_DFL ); + + switch (( pid = fork() )) { + case 0: + (void) execv( LPR, argv ); + syslog( LOG_ERR, "execvp(%s): %m", LPR ); + exit( 1 ); + case -1: + syslog( LOG_ERR, "fork: %m" ); + exit( 1 ); + default: { + int status; + + pid = waitpid( pid, &status, 0 ); + if ( WIFEXITED(status) && WEXITSTATUS(status) ) + syslog( LOG_ERR, "lp_print: child exited with status %d", + WEXITSTATUS(status) ); + while ( *fileptr ) + (void) unlink( *fileptr++ ); + for ( ptr = argv; *ptr; ptr++ ) + (void) free( *ptr ); + } + } +#else sprintf( tfname, "tfA%03d%s", lp.lp_seq, hostname ); if (( fd = open( tfname, O_WRONLY|O_EXCL|O_CREAT, 0660 )) < 0 ) { syslog( LOG_ERR, "lp_print %s: %m", tfname ); @@ -382,38 +477,21 @@ } fprintf( cfile, "H%s\n", hostname ); /* XXX lp_host? */ - if ( lp.lp_person ) { - fprintf( cfile, "P%s\n", lp.lp_person ); - } else { - fprintf( cfile, "P%s\n", printer->p_operator ); - } + fprintf( cfile, "P%s\n", person ); - if ( lp.lp_job && *lp.lp_job ) { - fprintf( cfile, "J%s\n", lp.lp_job ); - fprintf( cfile, "T%s\n", lp.lp_job ); - } else { - fprintf( cfile, "JMac Job\n" ); - fprintf( cfile, "TMac Job\n" ); - } + fprintf( cfile, "J%s\n", job ); + fprintf( cfile, "T%s\n", job ); fprintf( cfile, "C%s\n", hostname ); /* XXX lp_host? */ - if ( lp.lp_person ) { - fprintf( cfile, "L%s\n", lp.lp_person ); - } else { - fprintf( cfile, "L%s\n", printer->p_operator ); - } + fprintf( cfile, "L%s\n", person ); for ( letter = 'A'; letter < lp.lp_letter; letter++ ) { fprintf( cfile, "fdf%c%03d%s\n", letter, lp.lp_seq, hostname ); fprintf( cfile, "Udf%c%03d%s\n", letter, lp.lp_seq, hostname ); } - if ( lp.lp_job && *lp.lp_job ) { - fprintf( cfile, "N%s\n", lp.lp_job ); - } else { - fprintf( cfile, "NMac Job\n" ); - } + fprintf( cfile, "N%s\n", job ); fclose( cfile ); sprintf( cfname, "cfA%03d%s", lp.lp_seq, hostname ); @@ -446,6 +524,7 @@ syslog( LOG_ERR, "lp_print lpd said %c: %m", buf[ 0 ] ); return; } +#endif } syslog( LOG_INFO, "lp_print queued" ); return; @@ -530,6 +609,9 @@ lp_rmjob( job ) int job; { +#ifdef LPRNG + return( -1 ); +#else char buf[ 1024 ]; int n, s; @@ -555,6 +637,7 @@ lp_disconn_inet( s ); return( 0 ); +#endif } char *kw_rank = "Rank"; @@ -570,6 +653,9 @@ lp_queue( out ) struct papfile *out; { +#ifdef LPRNG + return( -1 ); +#else char buf[ 1024 ], *start, *stop, *p, *q; static struct papfile pf; int n, len, s; @@ -714,4 +800,5 @@ return( 0 ); } } +#endif } From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 1 20:55:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id UAA23744; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 20:55:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA23740; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 20:55:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA10699; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 20:55:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA10697; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 20:55:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gadget.nla.gov.au by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA10688; Tue, 1 Jul 1997 20:55:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (cmakin@localhost) by gadget.nla.gov.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA08209 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:55:40 +1000 (AEST) X-Authentication-Warning: gadget.nla.gov.au: cmakin owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:55:39 +1000 (AEST) From: Carl Makin To: Netatalk Subject: Re: tcpd.h? In-Reply-To: <199707011546.RAA19101@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Georg Schwarz wrote: > I'm trying to compile netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a10 on a Linux 2.0.29 (Slackware) > installation. I get > dsi_tcp.c:18: tcpd.h: No such file or directory tcpd.h is part of the tcp wrappers package. The FreeBSD packages version of tcp wrappers 7.2 installs it into the /usr/local/[bin|lib|include] directories. You either have to not include the tcp wrappers package or modify the Makefiles in; ~/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a10/libatalk/dsi INCPATH= -I../../include -I/usr/local/include ~/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a10/etc/afpd LIBDIRS= -L../../libatalk ${AFSLIBDIRS} ${KRBLIBDIRS} -L/usr/local/lib There's probably an easier way to do it but this worked for me. Mind you I installed the asun2.0a10 patches and got it all working and then found out that you needed Open Transport to run AppleShare over IP. Carl. -- Carl Makin 'Work +61 6 262 1576' "Speaking for myself only!" From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 2 09:17:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA26006; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 09:17:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA26002; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 09:16:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA14918; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 09:16:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA14911; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 09:16:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dosa.digocean.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA14896; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 09:16:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from AKI.DOSA.DIGOCEAN.COM (aki.dosa.digocean.com [207.71.16.34]) by dosa.digocean.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA14945 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 08:12:00 -0500 Message-ID: <33BA53E8.9B93F654@DigitalOcean.com> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 08:13:12 -0500 From: "David J. Leach, Jr." Reply-To: dleach@DigitalOcean.com Organization: Digital Ocean, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: NetATalk Admins List Subject: appletalk module? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm trying to figure out how the appletalk module gets loaded on my linux system. I do an 'lsmod' and get appletalk, 3c509, and lp. I've been told that this means that appletalk support is being loaded as a module instead of part of the kernel but I can't figure out how it gets loaded. I've looked in the rc.Modules file and only the 3c509 is loaded (I've also looked in many other files). I'm new at this so this may be a dumb question but any help with helping me understand this would be much appreciated. David Leach -- ================================================================ David J. Leach, Jr. - Staff Programmer - Digital Ocean, Inc. email: DLeach@DigitalOcean.com web: http://www.dosa.digocean.com/~dleach voice: 210.614.9283 x114 fax: 210.614.8192 ================================================================ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 2 10:12:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA29515; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:12:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA29501; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:12:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA02927; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:12:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA02919; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:12:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from eclectic.kluge.net by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA02894; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:12:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (felicity@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eclectic.kluge.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA25769; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:18:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:18:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Theo Van Dinter To: "David J. Leach, Jr." cc: NetATalk Admins List Subject: Re: appletalk module? In-Reply-To: <33BA53E8.9B93F654@DigitalOcean.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, David J. Leach, Jr. wrote: > (I've also looked in many other files). I'm new at this so this may be a > dumb question but any help with helping me understand this would be much > appreciated. if you selected "autoloading of modules" during your kernel compile configuration, and then (after it's all built) you try to access appletalk, the module will be autoloaded. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Theo Van Dinter www: http://www.kluge.net/~felicity/ Secretary of WPI Lens and Lights Junior Systems Administrator IF IsStolen(Tagline) THEN Insult(Thief); --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 2 10:14:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA29721; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:14:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA29709; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:14:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA19898; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:13:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA19895; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:13:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from argos.saveas.com.ar by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA19847; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:13:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pastito@localhost) by argos.saveas.com.ar (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA00037; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:13:12 -0300 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:13:12 -0300 Message-Id: <199707021413.LAA00037@argos.saveas.com.ar> From: Fernan Rodriguez Cespedes To: dleach@DigitalOcean.com CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <33BA53E8.9B93F654@DigitalOcean.com> (dleach@DigitalOcean.com) Subject: Re: appletalk module? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >>>>> "David" == David J Leach, writes: David> I'm trying to figure out how the appletalk module gets David> loaded on my linux system. I do an 'lsmod' and get This is because new linux distributions come with kerneld already installed. What this daemon does is load modules on demand, transparently. Try 'ps -ax'to see it. For more info, read the kernel documentation (/usr/src/linux/Documentation/Configure.help and /usr/scr/linux/Documentation/modules.txt). -- Saludos - Pastito Save As Linux http://www.saveas.com.ar http://www.linux.com.ar ftp://ftp.saveas.com.ar ftp://ftp.linux.com.ar pastito@saveas.com.ar pastito@linux.com.ar From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 2 10:25:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA00489; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:25:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA00485; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:25:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA07152; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:25:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA07148; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:25:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from argos.saveas.com.ar by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA07122; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:24:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pastito@localhost) by argos.saveas.com.ar (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA00590; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:24:45 -0300 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:24:45 -0300 Message-Id: <199707021424.LAA00590@argos.saveas.com.ar> From: Fernan Rodriguez Cespedes To: felicity@kluge.net CC: dleach@DigitalOcean.com, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from Theo Van Dinter on Wed, 2 Jul 1997 10:18:24 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: appletalk module? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >>>>> "Theo" == Theo Van Dinter writes: Theo> if you selected "autoloading of modules" during your kernel Theo> compile configuration, and then (after it's all built) you Theo> try to access appletalk, the module will be autoloaded. It is kerneld the program that autoloads modules in the kernel. Of course the kernel must support this. -- Saludos - Pastito Save As Linux http://www.saveas.com.ar http://www.linux.com.ar ftp://ftp.saveas.com.ar ftp://ftp.linux.com.ar pastito@saveas.com.ar pastito@linux.com.ar From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 2 11:08:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA03036; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:08:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA03008; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:08:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA09217; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:07:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA08485; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:05:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dosa.digocean.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA07701; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:03:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from AKI.DOSA.DIGOCEAN.COM (aki.dosa.digocean.com [207.71.16.34]) by dosa.digocean.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA20018; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 09:57:30 -0500 Message-ID: <33BA6CA0.9D108B21@DigitalOcean.com> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 09:58:40 -0500 From: "David J. Leach, Jr." Reply-To: dleach@digitalocean.com Organization: Digital Ocean, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fernan Rodriguez Cespedes CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: appletalk module? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199707021413.LAA00037@argos.saveas.com.ar> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Fernan Rodriguez Cespedes wrote: > > >>>>> "David" == David J Leach, writes: > > David> I'm trying to figure out how the appletalk module gets > David> loaded on my linux system. I do an 'lsmod' and get > > This is because new linux distributions come with kerneld > already installed. What this daemon does is load modules on demand, > transparently. Try 'ps -ax'to see it. For more info, read the kernel > documentation (/usr/src/linux/Documentation/Configure.help and > /usr/scr/linux/Documentation/modules.txt). > Okay, I'm beginning to understand but it's still not clear to me how kerneld knew it needed to load appletalk.o? I can't find a conf.modules file. Is the linux kernel configured to know it wants appletalk.o? David Leach -- ================================================================ David J. Leach, Jr. - Staff Programmer - Digital Ocean, Inc. email: DLeach@DigitalOcean.com web: http://www.dosa.digocean.com/~dleach voice: 210.614.9283 x114 fax: 210.614.8192 ================================================================ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 2 11:29:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA05216; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAB05207; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:29:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA29702; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:29:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA28702; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:27:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news.mtu.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA28282; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:25:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtu.edu (mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07426; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:22:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (bioserver.bio.mtu.edu [141.219.40.72]) by mtu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11552; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:22:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (edan@localhost) by bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (8.6.13/MTU-R1.9) with SMTP id LAA16149; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:22:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: bioserver.bio.mtu.edu: edan owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:22:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@bioserver.bio.mtu.edu To: "Jonathan I. Kamens" cc: rothwell@cybergrafx.com, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: papd and LPRng ... not working ... In-Reply-To: <199707012149.RAA31976@jik.shore.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Jonathan I. Kamens wrote: > LPRng doesn't queue the same was BSD LPR does. I modified netatalk to > use support LPRng by using "lpr" to queue jobs rather than trying to > insert them directly into the queue directory. I submitted my patches Err, I didn't look closely at your code to see if it would work better, but you can already do :pr=|lpr: To get papd to use lpr instead of queueing directly. This appears to be the The One Truth I Know About Netatalk Printing. - edan -- Edan Idzerda System Administrator -- Michigan Technological University, Houghton MI USA From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 2 11:34:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA05534; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:34:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA05529; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:34:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA02054; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:34:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA02047; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:34:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay1.shore.net by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA02036; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:34:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jik.shore.net (jik@jik.shore.net [198.115.179.23]) by relay1.shore.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA21577; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:34:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jik@localhost) by jik.shore.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) id LAA07469; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:34:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:34:06 -0400 Message-Id: <199707021534.LAA07469@jik.shore.net> From: "Jonathan I. Kamens" To: edan@mtu.edu CC: rothwell@cybergrafx.com, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from Edan Idzerda on Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:22:50 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: papd and LPRng ... not working ... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 11:22:50 -0400 (EDT) > From: Edan Idzerda > > On Tue, 1 Jul 1997, Jonathan I. Kamens wrote: > > LPRng doesn't queue the same was BSD LPR does. I modified netatalk to > > use support LPRng by using "lpr" to queue jobs rather than trying to > > insert them directly into the queue directory. I submitted my patches > > Err, I didn't look closely at your code to see if it would work > better, but you can already do > > :pr=|lpr: > > To get papd to use lpr instead of queueing directly. Yes, I know you can do that, and yes, my code "would work better" than that. Read the patch. jik From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 2 12:16:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA08354; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 12:16:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA08350; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 12:16:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA17004; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 12:16:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA17002; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 12:16:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA16985; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 12:16:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Wed, 2 Jul 1997 18:15:48 +0200 Received: by lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de (940816.SGI.8.6.9/ZRZ-Gen) id SAA20035; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 18:15:47 +0200 Message-Id: <199707021615.SAA20035@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Subject: switching off quota To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 18:15:47 +0200 (MEST) From: Georg Schwarz Reply-To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is it possible with netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a10 not to check quotas? We're not using quotas, so trying to check them is not necessary. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any appropriate compile option. Thanks. --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik Tel. +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ Sekr. PN 7-1, Hardenbergstr. 36, D-10623 Berlin IRC: kuroi From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 2 12:24:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA08868; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 12:24:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA08857; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 12:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA19690; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 12:24:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA19688; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 12:24:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cheviot.ncl.ac.uk by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA19684; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 12:24:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bygate.ncl.ac.uk by cheviot.ncl.ac.uk id (8.7.6/ for ncl.ac.uk) with SMTP; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:24:15 +0100 (BST) Received: (ngmt@localhost) by bygate.ncl.ac.uk (8.6.7/8.6.x-cf revision 8 for SunOS 4.1.x) id RAA02965; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:24:13 +0100 From: "Gerry.Tomlinson" Message-Id: <199707021624.RAA02965@bygate.ncl.ac.uk> Subject: Netatalk 1.4b2 and Solaris 2.4 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:24:13 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is anyone running netatalk 1-4b2 on solaris 2.4? If I build on solaris 2.4 I get lots of undefineds. If I run a 2.5 build on 2.4 I get unresolved references eg rindex. If I dynamically link with ucblib on 2.4 I get bad behaviour from afpd eg. it displays no content in open folders. Gerry. --- Gerry.Tomlinson@newcastle.ac.uk Computing Officer Department of Computing Science, University of Newcastle, Tel: +44 191 222 8139 Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, United Kingdom. Fax: +44 191 222 8232 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 2 17:01:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id RAA19028; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA19023; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:01:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA20301; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:01:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA20281; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.halcyon.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA20263; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:01:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mac-o-death.halcyon.com (mac-o-death.halcyon.com [198.202.21.2]) by mail1.halcyon.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA29577 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707022102.OAA29577@mail1.halcyon.com> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 14:01:39 -0700 From: wdickson@nwnexus.com (William R. Dickson) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: $USER variable in AppleVolumes.system? Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk Organization: Northwest Nexus Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (A copy of this message has also been posted to the following newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk) I'm wondering if this kind of thing is possible with netatalk: Say I've got lots of users, so many that I don't want to be creating a .AppleVolumes file in each of their home directories. For the sake of argument, let's pretend that five is such a large number. Now, I want every user, when s/he connects, to see two things in the chooser -- the user's home directory, an the user's personal web directory. (Again, for the sake of argument, linking the web directory into the home directory isn't possible, due to a hypothetical complicated nfsmount issue.) Say I have the real directories: /www/users/andrea /www/users/bob /www/users/chris /www/users/deanna /www/users/effie Can I do something like this in AppleVolumes.system or AppleVolumes.default?: /www/users/$USER "User WWW Directory" I know I can't do that exactly, because I tried it and it didn't work. Is there another way? -Bill -- _________________________________________________________________________ William R. Dickson - Technical Support wdickson@nwnexus.com Northwest Nexus - Professional Internet Services Bellevue, WA USA Voice: 425 455-3505 Web: http://www.nwnexus.com/ Info: info@nwnexus.com From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 2 21:30:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id VAA22739; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:30:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id VAA22734; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:30:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA26885; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:29:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA26883; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:29:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gomer.wiscnet.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id VAA26879; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:29:42 -0400 (EDT) From: mt@carthage.edu Received: from grace.carthage.edu ([198.150.93.69]) by gomer.wiscnet.net (8.6.9W/) with SMTP id UAA58336 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 20:30:01 -0500 Received: by grace.carthage.edu; Wed, 2 Jul 97 20:54:25 CDT Date: Wed, 2 Jul 97 20:51:13 CDT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: , Subject: $USER variable in AppleVolumes.system? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >(A copy of this message has also been posted to the following newsgroups: >comp.protocols.appletalk) > >I'm wondering if this kind of thing is possible with netatalk: > >Say I've got lots of users, so many that I don't want to be creating a >..AppleVolumes file in each of their home directories. For the sake of >argument, let's pretend that five is such a large number. > >Now, I want every user, when s/he connects, to see two things in the >chooser -- the user's home directory, an the user's personal web >directory. (Again, for the sake of argument, linking the web directory >into the home directory isn't possible, due to a hypothetical complicated >nfsmount issue.) > >Say I have the real directories: > >/www/users/andrea >/www/users/bob >/www/users/chris >/www/users/deanna >/www/users/effie > >Can I do something like this in AppleVolumes.system or AppleVolumes.default?: > >/www/users/$USER "User WWW Directory" > > >I know I can't do that exactly, because I tried it and it didn't work. Is >there another way? > >-Bill > >-- > _________________________________________________________________________ > William R. Dickson - Technical Support wdickson@nwnexus.com > Northwest Nexus - Professional Internet Services Bellevue, WA USA > Voice: 425 455-3505 Web: http://www.nwnexus.com/ Info: info@nwnexus.com Bill -- I know you can't use "$USER", but I think you can use "~/". Of course, that only gets you the user's home directory, but at least that's half of what you wanted. -- Mark Mark Tomory Carthage College From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 2 21:37:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id VAA23070; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:37:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id VAA23066; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:37:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA28133; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:37:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA28131; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA28126; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 21:37:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id SAA18773; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 18:37:28 -0700 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 18:37:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: mt@carthage.edu cc: wdickson@nwnexus.com, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: $USER variable in AppleVolumes.system? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 mt@carthage.edu wrote: > >Now, I want every user, when s/he connects, to see two things in the > >chooser -- the user's home directory, an the user's personal web > >directory. (Again, for the sake of argument, linking the web directory > >into the home directory isn't possible, due to a hypothetical complicated > >nfsmount issue.) Can't you just have a sym link in each user's home directory pointing out to the web directory? Just do something like: (in sh) for i in `cat a_list_of_users` do cd $i ln -s /www/users/$i WWW done > >Say I have the real directories: > > > >/www/users/andrea > >/www/users/bob > >/www/users/chris > >/www/users/deanna > >/www/users/effie > > > >Can I do something like this in AppleVolumes.system or > AppleVolumes.default?: > > > >/www/users/$USER "User WWW Directory" > > > > > >I know I can't do that exactly, because I tried it and it didn't work. Is > >there another way? > Bill -- > > I know you can't use "$USER", but I think you can use "~/". Of course, > that only gets you the user's home directory, but at least that's half > of what you wanted. But then ~/WWW would point to a symlink which would point to the right place. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 2 22:56:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id WAA24359; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:56:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id WAA24355; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:56:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA11205; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA11198; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:56:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.telstra.com.au by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA11185; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:56:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.telstra.com.au (8.8.2/8.6.9) id MAA15583 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:55:55 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail-gw.fwall.telstra.com.au(192.148.147.15) by mail via smap (V1.3) id sma015536; Thu Jul 3 12:55:29 1997 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail-gw.fwall.telstra.com.au (8.8.2/8.6.9) id MAA14721 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:55:25 +1000 (EST) Received: from cdn-mail.dn.itg.telecom.com.au(144.135.109.134) by mail-gw via smap (V1.3) id sma014628; Thu Jul 3 12:54:47 1997 Received: from troy.bms.itg.telecom.com.au (troy.bms.itg.telecom.com.au [144.136.174.207]) by cdn-mail.telecom.com.au (8.8.2/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA00410 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:54:44 +1000 (EST) Received: (from marcb@localhost) by troy.bms.itg.telecom.com.au (8.7.5/8.6.9) id MAA11689; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:52:01 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:52:01 +1000 (EST) From: "Marc A. Boschma" Message-Id: <199707030252.MAA11689@troy.bms.itg.telecom.com.au> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, wdickson@nwnexus.com Subject: Re: $USER variable in AppleVolumes.system? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Can I do something like this in AppleVolumes.system or AppleVolumes.default?: >/www/users/$USER "User WWW Directory" It sounds like you want something a kin to the %u et al of Samba. I'd like to see such support, as it allows configuration of all sorts of things. ie. %g expands to the primary group name of the user, so you can create exports that are different for different groups, but have the same name extenally. Speaking of this does netatalk know the Mac's name that is connected ? >I know I can't do that exactly, because I tried it and it didn't work. Is >there another way? Apear from sym-links, there is editing the source... >-Bill Marc B. ------- _-_|\ Marc A. Boschma Email: marcb@telstra.com.au / \ Snr. Internet Specialist Phone: +61 3 9634 8798 Fax: +61 3 9634 5469 \_.^\*/ Telstra Corporation Smail: Locked Bag No. 4840 v Melbourne, VIC 8100, Australia From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 2 23:13:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id XAA24826; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:13:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id XAA24822; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:13:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA04599; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:13:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA04597; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:13:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumshoe.awenet.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA04581; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 23:13:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.57.202.101] (Bill@marlowe.awenet.com [204.57.202.101]) by gumshoe.awenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01596; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 20:12:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: wrd@mail.awenet.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 20:14:49 -0700 To: Bill Studenmund , mt@carthage.edu From: "William R. Dickson" Subject: Re: $USER variable in AppleVolumes.system? Cc: wdickson@nwnexus.com, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 6:37 PM -0700 7/2/1997, Bill Studenmund wrote: >On Wed, 2 Jul 1997 mt@carthage.edu wrote: > >> >Now, I want every user, when s/he connects, to see two things in the >> >chooser -- the user's home directory, an the user's personal web >> >directory. (Again, for the sake of argument, linking the web directory >> >into the home directory isn't possible, due to a hypothetical complicated >> >nfsmount issue.) > >Can't you just have a sym link in each user's home directory pointing out >to the web directory? Just do something like: > >(in sh) >for i in `cat a_list_of_users` >do >cd $i >ln -s /www/users/$i WWW >done That's certainly an option, and it's currently the fallback plan, but being able to use a $USER variable just seemed like a cleaner options. But if it can't be done, it's not a huge deal. -Bill > >> >Say I have the real directories: >> > >> >/www/users/andrea >> >/www/users/bob >> >/www/users/chris >> >/www/users/deanna >> >/www/users/effie >> > >> >Can I do something like this in AppleVolumes.system or >> AppleVolumes.default?: >> > >> >/www/users/$USER "User WWW Directory" >> > >> > >> >I know I can't do that exactly, because I tried it and it didn't work. Is >> >there another way? >> Bill -- >> >> I know you can't use "$USER", but I think you can use "~/". Of course, >> that only gets you the user's home directory, but at least that's half >> of what you wanted. > >But then ~/WWW would point to a symlink which would point to the right >place. > >Take care, > >Bill -- William R. Dickson -- Consuming the Earth's limited resources since 1968 wrd@awenet.com <> http://www.halcyon.com/wrd/ <> VNB3T, VSC1T, VSX1T Neither of the people in the room paid any attention to the way I came in, although only one of them was dead. Raymond Chandler, "The Big Sleep" From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 3 15:47:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA11597; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:47:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id PAA11586; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:47:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id PAA11581; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:47:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA11575; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 15:47:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707031947.PAA11575@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: AppleVolumes.system vs. AppleVolumes.default Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 15:47:34 -0400 From: Evan P Cordes Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ------- Forwarded Message Return-Path: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id RAA19298; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:08:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707022108.RAA19298@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:08:05 -0400 (EDT) From: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu To: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: BOUNCE netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu: Admin request of type /\bremove\b/i at line 5 >From epcordes Wed Jul 2 17:08:00 1997 Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA19293; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:07:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA03646; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:07:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA03644; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:07:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.halcyon.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA03640; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 17:07:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mac-o-death.halcyon.com (mac-o-death.halcyon.com [198.202.21.2]) by mail1.halcyon.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA10443 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 1997 14:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707022109.OAA10443@mail1.halcyon.com> Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 14:08:14 -0700 From: wdickson@nwnexus.com (William R. Dickson) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: AppleVolumes.system vs. AppleVolumes.default Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk Organization: Northwest Nexus (A copy of this message has also been posted to the following newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk) Does the AppleVolumes.default file really have any function? When I remove it, my home directory still shows up in the chooser, whether I have a $HOME/.AppleVolumes file or not. And when I add pathnames to it, no additional volumes show up in the chooser. I have to add those to the AppleVolumes.system file. Is there any reason I shouldn't delete AppleVolumes.default? - -Bill - -- _________________________________________________________________________ William R. Dickson - Technical Support wdickson@nwnexus.com Northwest Nexus - Professional Internet Services Bellevue, WA USA Voice: 425 455-3505 Web: http://www.nwnexus.com/ Info: info@nwnexus.com ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 3 18:48:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id SAA16447; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:48:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA16443; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:48:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA10134; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:48:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA10128; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:48:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gryphon.ccs.brandeis.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA10124; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (grath@localhost) by gryphon.ccs.brandeis.edu (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA16823; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:45:45 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 18:45:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jeremy A. Gilbert" Reply-To: Jeremy Gilbert To: "William R. Dickson" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: $USER variable in AppleVolumes.system? In-Reply-To: <199707022102.OAA29577@mail1.halcyon.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, William R. Dickson wrote: > /www/users/andrea > /www/users/bob > /www/users/chris > /www/users/deanna > /www/users/effie maybe something quick like this might do the trick, although i'd test it first. :) #!/usr/bin/perl foreach( `ls /www/users/*' ) { open FOO, ">$_/.AppleVolumes" or die; print FOO "$_ \'Users WWW Directory\'\n/usr/mac \'Regular Stuff\'"; close FOO; } From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 3 19:40:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id TAA17417; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:40:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA17413; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:40:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA18133; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:40:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA18131; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:40:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.crl.go.jp by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA18120; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:40:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crlgw.crl.go.jp ([133.243.18.250]) by ns.crl.go.jp (8.8.5/3.5Wpl7) with ESMTP id IAA10070 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 08:37:13 +0900 (JST) Received: from dune.crl.go.jp (dune.crl.go.jp [133.243.17.192]) by crlgw.crl.go.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.5Wpl7-MS970609) with ESMTP id IAA02940 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 08:40:16 +0900 (JST) Received: (from esagawa@localhost) by dune.crl.go.jp (8.8.5/3.5Wpl7-97052718) id IAA20230; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 08:40:16 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199707032340.IAA20230@dune.crl.go.jp> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] info Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 08:40:15 +0900 From: Eiichi SAGAWA Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 4 10:25:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA17853; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 10:25:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from argos.saveas.com.ar by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA17848; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 10:25:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pastito@localhost) by argos.saveas.com.ar (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA14794; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:25:03 -0300 Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:25:03 -0300 Message-Id: <199707041425.LAA14794@argos.saveas.com.ar> From: Fernan Rodriguez Cespedes To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Loosing it Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I wrote a few days ago to this list a mail asking for help because with netatalk 1.4b2 and linux, my Macintoshes kept loosing network drives. They just "dissapeared". No-one answered back to this question so I had to act quick because my co-workers wanted to kill me because of this... I finally have a stable appletalk network with netatalk 1.3.3 plus patches. Also I had to patch by hand the source because an older mac would not write to one of the servers beacuse it has so much free space it saw it on negative numbers due to overflow... Thanks anyway... -- Saludos - Pastito Save As Linux http://www.saveas.com.ar http://www.linux.com.ar ftp://ftp.saveas.com.ar ftp://ftp.linux.com.ar pastito@saveas.com.ar pastito@linux.com.ar From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jul 5 07:15:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id HAA18283; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 07:15:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA18278; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 07:15:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA28958; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 07:15:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA28956; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 07:15:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA28950; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 07:15:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Sat, 5 Jul 1997 13:14:36 +0200 Received: by lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de (940816.SGI.8.6.9/ZRZ-Gen) id NAA02805; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 13:14:35 +0200 Message-Id: <199707051114.NAA02805@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Subject: [netatalk-admins] eth0: Setting Rx mode...? To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 13:14:35 +0200 (MEST) From: Georg Schwarz Reply-To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu when I startup atalkd on Linuux 2.0.29 I get the following messages: Jul 5 12:57:40 poseidon atalkd[100]: restart (1.4b2+asun2.0a10) Jul 5 12:57:41 poseidon kernel: eth0: Setting Rx mode to 1 addresses. Jul 5 12:57:41 poseidon kernel: eth0: Setting Rx mode to 2 addresses. Jul 5 12:57:41 poseidon atalkd[100]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 Jul 5 12:58:00 poseidon last message repeated 2 times Jul 5 12:58:10 poseidon atalkd[100]: config for no router Jul 5 12:58:11 poseidon atalkd[100]: ready 0/0/0 Do the kernel messages indicate any error, or is it the normal interface configuration procedure? Thanks. As far as I can tell everything seems to run fine. --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik Tel. +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ Sekr. PN 7-1, Hardenbergstr. 36, D-10623 Berlin IRC: kuroi From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jul 5 15:44:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA21428; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 15:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA21424; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 15:44:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA06693; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 15:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA06691; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 15:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iglou1 by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id PAA06687; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 15:44:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mfreeman by iglou1 with smtp (8.7.3/8.6.12) id 0wkakJ-0007FF-00; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 15:43:51 -0400 Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 15:43:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael M. Freeman" X-Sender: mfreeman@iglou1 To: Georg Schwarz cc: Netatalk Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] eth0: Setting Rx mode...? In-Reply-To: <199707051114.NAA02805@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sat, 5 Jul 1997, Georg Schwarz wrote: > when I startup atalkd on Linuux 2.0.29 I get the following messages: > > Jul 5 12:57:40 poseidon atalkd[100]: restart (1.4b2+asun2.0a10) > Jul 5 12:57:41 poseidon kernel: eth0: Setting Rx mode to 1 addresses. > Jul 5 12:57:41 poseidon kernel: eth0: Setting Rx mode to 2 addresses. > Jul 5 12:57:41 poseidon atalkd[100]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 > Jul 5 12:58:00 poseidon last message repeated 2 times > Jul 5 12:58:10 poseidon atalkd[100]: config for no router > Jul 5 12:58:11 poseidon atalkd[100]: ready 0/0/0 > > Do the kernel messages indicate any error, or is it the normal interface > configuration procedure? Normal configuration messgaes (Multicast). From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jul 5 16:04:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id QAA22166; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:04:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA22161; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA09128; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:04:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA09126; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:04:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iglou1 by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id QAA09122; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:04:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mfreeman by iglou1 with smtp (8.7.3/8.6.12) id 0wkb4A-00004Y-00; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:04:22 -0400 Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:04:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael M. Freeman" X-Sender: mfreeman@iglou1 To: wesley.craig@umich.edu cc: Jon Piesing , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: [Q] final of netatalk1.4 In-Reply-To: <199707011335.JAA00568@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 1 Jul 1997 wesley.craig@umich.edu wrote: [SNIP] > > The re-write will allow routing, AppleTalk firewalls (as the SunOS > version does), and will hopefully fix other routing table bugs, and the > panics. > Greeting wes, 1. Has there ever been any consideration given to integrating Bobby Krupczak @ Georgia Tech work with ATP and ADSP STREAMS modules into netatalk ???? Copyright Issues ??? 2. The AFP-over-TCP support you mention in 1.4b3 will be based on Adrian Sun's a10 distribution ??? Regards Mike Freeman From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jul 5 16:53:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id QAA23022; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:53:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA23015; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:53:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA13357; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:53:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA13355; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:53:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from x183-191.reshalls.umn.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id QAA13351; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 16:53:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.101.210.33] [128.101.210.33] by x183-191.reshalls.umn.edu with smtp (Exim 1.61 #1) id 0wkbm3-00015c-00 (Debian); Sat, 5 Jul 1997 15:49:43 -0500 From: "Jon Nelson" To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] eth0: Setting Rx mode...? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: POPmail/Lab 1.1.6 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 15:49:43 -0500 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Responding to the message of Sat, 5 Jul 1997 13:14:35 +0200 (MEST) from Georg Schwarz : > > when I startup atalkd on Linuux 2.0.29 I get the following messages: > > Jul 5 12:57:40 poseidon atalkd[100]: restart (1.4b2+asun2.0a10) > Jul 5 12:57:41 poseidon kernel: eth0: Setting Rx mode to 1 addresses. > Jul 5 12:57:41 poseidon kernel: eth0: Setting Rx mode to 2 addresses. > Jul 5 12:57:41 poseidon atalkd[100]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 > Jul 5 12:58:00 poseidon last message repeated 2 times > Jul 5 12:58:10 poseidon atalkd[100]: config for no router > Jul 5 12:58:11 poseidon atalkd[100]: ready 0/0/0 > > Do the kernel messages indicate any error, or is it the normal interface > configuration procedure? > Thanks. > As far as I can tell everything seems to run fine. I've been experiencing the same thing, but with Rx mode going up to 3 addresses. The card is a 3com 3c509 on a Pentium 200, Linux kernel 2.0.29. Thus far, I haven't had any trouble, although it's only been up for two days. I *would*, however, like an answer to this, even if that answer is "don't worry about it --- it's benign!" Thanks! Jon Nelson nels0988@tc.umn.edu U of MN Housing and Res Life Computing Supervisor From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jul 5 19:03:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id TAA24680; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 19:03:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id TAA24676; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 19:03:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id TAA24674; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 19:03:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA24669; Sat, 5 Jul 1997 19:03:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707052303.TAA24669@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] fwd'd mesg Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 19:03:03 -0400 From: Evan P Cordes Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ------- Forwarded Message Return-Path: mt@carthage.edu Received: from gomer.wiscnet.net by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with SMTP id VAA19779; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 21:42:08 -0400 (EDT) From: mt@carthage.edu Received: from grace.carthage.edu ([198.150.93.69]) by gomer.wiscnet.net (8.6.9W/) with SMTP id UAA110502 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 20:42:07 -0500 Received: by grace.carthage.edu; Thu, 3 Jul 97 21:06:58 CDT Date: Thu, 3 Jul 97 20:51:56 CDT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: , Subject: AppleVolumes.system vs. AppleVolumes.default William R. Dickson asks: >Does the AppleVolumes.default file really have any function? When I >remove it, my home directory still shows up in the chooser, whether I have >a $HOME/.AppleVolumes file or not. And when I add pathnames to it, no >additional volumes show up in the chooser. I have to add those to the >AppleVolumes.system file. > >Is there any reason I shouldn't delete AppleVolumes.default? > >- -Bill > >- -- > _________________________________________________________________________ > William R. Dickson - Technical Support wdickson@nwnexus.com > Northwest Nexus - Professional Internet Services Bellevue, WA USA > Voice: 425 455-3505 Web: http://www.nwnexus.com/ Info: info@nwnexus.com Bill -- - AppleVolumes.system affects every user, - $HOME/AppleVolumes (or $HOME/.AppleVolumes) affects the user whose home it's in, - and AppleVolumes.default is used in place of $HOME/[.]AppleVolumes for anyone who doesn't have one. Thus, for example, you could make AppleVolumes.system contain /usr/local/macapps "Shared Applications" ..and AppleVolumes.default could contain ~/ "My Home Directory" This way, any user on the system will see the Shared Applications drive, and they will also see their home directory unless they customize it away by creating a $HOME/[.]AppleVolumes file -- if they do that, then they'll still see the Shared Applications, but the contents of their own personal AppleVolumes file will override AppleVolumes.default. The system makes it easy for you to set it up in a way that works for all your users, but still lets them customize their own setups if they so choose. I hope this explanation is both helpful and accurate! :) -- Mark Mark Tomory Carthage College Kenosha, WI, USA ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 6 04:57:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id EAA08538; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 04:57:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA08480; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 04:57:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA00213; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 04:57:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA00211; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 04:57:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA00207; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 04:57:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Sun, 6 Jul 1997 10:57:26 +0200 To: mfreeman@iglou.com (Michael M. Freeman), netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] eth0: Setting Rx mode...? From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 10:58:10 +0200 Message-ID: <19970706105810122429@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: MacSOUP D-2.2.1 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > On Sat, 5 Jul 1997, Georg Schwarz wrote: >=20 > > when I startup atalkd on Linuux 2.0.29 I get the following messages: > >=20 > > Jul 5 12:57:40 poseidon atalkd[100]: restart (1.4b2+asun2.0a10) > > Jul 5 12:57:41 poseidon kernel: eth0: Setting Rx mode to 1 addresses. > > Jul 5 12:57:41 poseidon kernel: eth0: Setting Rx mode to 2 addresses. > > Jul 5 12:57:41 poseidon atalkd[100]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 > > Jul 5 12:58:00 poseidon last message repeated 2 times > > Jul 5 12:58:10 poseidon atalkd[100]: config for no router > > Jul 5 12:58:11 poseidon atalkd[100]: ready 0/0/0 > >=20 > > Do the kernel messages indicate any error, or is it the normal interfac= e > > configuration procedure? >=20 > Normal configuration messgaes (Multicast). thanks for confirming this. Does anyone happen to know why atalkd takes so long to start up? (it's a Pentium 100 with 24 MB RAM, so that should not be an issue) Is atalk somehow listening to the network waiting for something (router?)? Could I tell it not to? --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 6 06:44:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id GAA22577; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 06:44:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA22573; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 06:44:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA03370; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 06:44:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA03367; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 06:44:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shrimp.dataplex.net by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA03360; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 06:44:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [208.2.87.6] (user6.dataplex.net [208.2.87.6]) by shrimp.dataplex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA24295; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 05:43:55 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: rkw@shrimp.dataplex.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19970706105810122429@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 05:37:57 -0500 To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) From: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] eth0: Setting Rx mode...? Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 3:58 AM -0500 7/6/97, Georg Schwarz wrote: >Does anyone happen to know why atalkd takes >so long to start up? (it's a Pentium 100 with 24 MB RAM, so that should >not be an issue) Is atalk somehow listening to the network waiting for >something (router?)? Could I tell it not to? Exactly. One of the advantages of the Appletalk protocol is that it is self configuring. However this comes at a price. During startup, each host guesses at an acceptable address and then has to probe the network to see if there is a conflict. If the host is a router or other service device, it takes an address from a reserved range but with the added responsibility of making a more thorough probe of the network. Unfortunately, this all takes time. Futhermore, you have to decide on your address before you can start other Appletalk services. From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 6 13:08:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA25541; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 13:08:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA25537; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 13:08:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA27462; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 13:08:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA27456; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 13:08:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from taos.cs.unm.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA27449; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 13:08:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (colinj@localhost) by taos.cs.unm.edu (8.8.4/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA07519; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 11:08:11 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: taos.cs.unm.edu: colinj owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 11:08:11 -0600 (MDT) From: Colin Eric Johnson To: Georg Schwarz cc: "Michael M. Freeman" , Netatalk Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] eth0: Setting Rx mode...? In-Reply-To: <19970706105810122429@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Georg Schwarz wrote: [snip] > thanks for confirming this. Does anyone happen to know why atalkd takes > so long to start up? (it's a Pentium 100 with 24 MB RAM, so that should > not be an issue) Is atalk somehow listening to the network waiting for > something (router?)? Could I tell it not to? I would assume that this has to do with the fact that Appletalk is a very "chatty" protocol. I know that in the readme for netatalk it warns that atalkd should not be started in the background as it has to build a database. I don't think it's "waiting" for anything, I believe it is recording the other appletalk devices it finds. just a guess. Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ Life is a movie, write your own ending - J. Henson, et al. From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 6 14:33:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA26579; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 14:33:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA26575; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 14:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA05825; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 14:33:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA05823; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 14:33:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from what.snew.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA05819; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 14:33:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuck@localhost) by what.snew.com (8.8.5/8.8.0) id OAA03467; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 14:33:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707061833.OAA03467@what.snew.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] eth0: Setting Rx mode...? To: jon@x183-191.reshalls.umn.edu (Jon Nelson) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 14:33:26 -0400 (EDT) Cc: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: from "Jon Nelson" at Jul 5, 97 03:49:43 pm From: chuck+na@Yerkes.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is part of why it's free. You've got the source for both Linux and Netatalk... Look for it (or better, give a student credit for doing so). chuck It is claimed, but unverified, that Jon Nelson wrote: > > Responding to the message of Sat, 5 Jul 1997 13:14:35 +0200 (MEST) > from Georg Schwarz : > > > > when I startup atalkd on Linuux 2.0.29 I get the following messages: > > > > Jul 5 12:57:40 poseidon atalkd[100]: restart (1.4b2+asun2.0a10) > > Jul 5 12:57:41 poseidon kernel: eth0: Setting Rx mode to 1 addresses. > > Jul 5 12:57:41 poseidon kernel: eth0: Setting Rx mode to 2 addresses. > > Jul 5 12:57:41 poseidon atalkd[100]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 > > Jul 5 12:58:00 poseidon last message repeated 2 times > > Jul 5 12:58:10 poseidon atalkd[100]: config for no router > > Jul 5 12:58:11 poseidon atalkd[100]: ready 0/0/0 > > > > Do the kernel messages indicate any error, or is it the normal interface > > configuration procedure? > > Thanks. > > As far as I can tell everything seems to run fine. > > I've been experiencing the same thing, but with Rx mode going up to 3 > addresses. The card is a 3com 3c509 on a Pentium 200, Linux kernel 2.0.29. > Thus far, I haven't had any trouble, although it's only been up for two > days. > > I *would*, however, like an answer to this, even if that answer is "don't > worry about it --- it's benign!" > > Thanks! > > Jon Nelson > nels0988@tc.umn.edu > U of MN Housing and Res Life Computing Supervisor From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 6 20:11:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id UAA00948; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 20:11:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA00944; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 20:11:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA09508; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 20:11:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA09506; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 20:11:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from email.cybergrafx.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA09474; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 20:11:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from arthur.rothwell.holly-springs.nc.us (rtp-nc2-04.ix.NETCOM.com [199.35.214.68]) by email.cybergrafx.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA11914; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 20:10:43 -0400 Message-Id: <199707070010.UAA11914@email.cybergrafx.com> From: "Michael Rothwell" To: "Jon Nelson" , , Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] eth0: Setting Rx mode...? Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 19:59:51 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu "It's benign." It think it's registering your appletalk address as well as an appletalk broadcast address, for a total of two. I've seen my 3Com, Intel and NE2000 cards do this, no problems encountered. ---------- > From: Jon Nelson > To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de; netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] eth0: Setting Rx mode...? > Date: Saturday, July 05, 1997 4:49 PM > > Responding to the message of Sat, 5 Jul 1997 13:14:35 +0200 (MEST) > from Georg Schwarz : > > > > when I startup atalkd on Linuux 2.0.29 I get the following messages: > > > > Jul 5 12:57:40 poseidon atalkd[100]: restart (1.4b2+asun2.0a10) > > Jul 5 12:57:41 poseidon kernel: eth0: Setting Rx mode to 1 addresses. > > Jul 5 12:57:41 poseidon kernel: eth0: Setting Rx mode to 2 addresses. > > Jul 5 12:57:41 poseidon atalkd[100]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 > > Jul 5 12:58:00 poseidon last message repeated 2 times > > Jul 5 12:58:10 poseidon atalkd[100]: config for no router > > Jul 5 12:58:11 poseidon atalkd[100]: ready 0/0/0 > > > > Do the kernel messages indicate any error, or is it the normal interface > > configuration procedure? > > Thanks. > > As far as I can tell everything seems to run fine. > > I've been experiencing the same thing, but with Rx mode going up to 3 > addresses. The card is a 3com 3c509 on a Pentium 200, Linux kernel 2.0.29. > Thus far, I haven't had any trouble, although it's only been up for two > days. > > I *would*, however, like an answer to this, even if that answer is "don't > worry about it --- it's benign!" > > Thanks! > > Jon Nelson > nels0988@tc.umn.edu > U of MN Housing and Res Life Computing Supervisor > > From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 7 05:48:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id FAA15849; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 05:48:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id FAA15845; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 05:48:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA02156; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 05:48:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA02154; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 05:48:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id FAA02150; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 05:48:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15041; Mon, 7 Jul 97 10:48:18 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:48:15 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from bungle (bungle.tees) by scorch; Mon, 7 Jul 97 10:49:51 BST Date: Mon, 7 Jul 97 10:49:32 BST Message-Id: <20508.9707070949@bungle> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] User account & Apps from same server? Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folks, My name is John Barry, I'm a Unix Network Administrator at the University of Teesside, Middlesbrough, England. I'm happily running Netatalk 1.4b2 on a Sun Sparcstation 1 running SunOS 4.1.4. My Macs are 6100/60's with 16MB and MacOS 7.5.5, Open Transport 1.1.2 and MacLogin. The Macs boot to a Unix login prompt, and then drop to the finder with the user account mounted as their userID on the desktop. I'm able to print to both SPARCprinters and HPlaserjets on the Unix network via the chooser, and to the lab lineprinter (Epson EX800) through a special printcap entry via ghostscript. My only real niggles about all this are that I can't print the users account name on the header pages, and that Simpletext, tabs and ghostscript (4.03) just don't get on.... I'll happily explain to anybody how all this works if required. Right enough about me & mine, on with the problem: I need some way of mounting both the users files and an application server at startup, after authenticating against the Unix NIS server. currently I'm doing this with MacLogin. Using the appleshare extension I can authenticate and mount the users account but not the Apps server. Using the TCP/IP extension I can authenticate against FTP and mount the Apps server via appleshare but not the users account. does anybody know of a package or a method that will allow me to do both? cheers, jb From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 7 08:39:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id IAA17077; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 08:39:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA17073; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 08:39:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA14260; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 08:39:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA14252; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 08:39:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id IAA14225; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 08:39:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from grace.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (grace.rob.cs.tu-bs.de [134.169.36.33]) by dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA26719; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:39:17 +0200 Received: by grace.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA00676; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:39:14 +0200 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:39:14 +0200 Message-Id: <199707071239.OAA00676@grace.rob.cs.tu-bs.de> From: Mario Klebsch DG1AM To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <802.9707071220@luigi> (cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] User account & Apps from same server? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! >> I do not exactly understand your situation. Do you want to mount two >> different volumes on the same server using different user names and >> passwords? >> > >Yup, that's exactly what I want to do. [this is a public reply after a private question] This is not possible with netatalk, as you like to have it. The client reuses the session with the afp server for each of its volumes. However (I never tried this, it is just an idea), if the appletalk client thinks, that it it talking to two different servers, it should be possible. I would try to register the server under a different name. Then it would appear twice in the chooser. But I don't know, wether the client will notice that it really is the same server and use the same asp session, ow wether it will start a new asp session with the server. Registering twice probably can be done by using nbprgstr to register the afp server using a different name or by starting a second afp server using a different name (and probably different configuration). 73, Mario -- Mario Klebsch, DG1AM, M.Klebsch@tu-bs.de +49 531 / 391 - 7457 Institut fuer Robotik und Prozessinformatik der TU Braunschweig Hamburger Strasse 267, 38114 Braunschweig, Germany From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 7 11:10:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA20329; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:10:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA20325; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:10:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA06246; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:09:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA06234; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id LAA06211; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:09:39 -0400 (EDT) From: cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17535; Mon, 7 Jul 97 16:10:02 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:10:00 +0100 Received: from luigi (luigi.tees) by scorch; Mon, 7 Jul 97 16:11:36 BST Date: Mon, 7 Jul 97 16:12:30 BST Message-Id: <1249.9707071512@luigi> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] maclogin info Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu For those interested in maclogin, details: download program: http://dingbatms.starnine.com/maclogin/maclogin-dist.sea.hqx home page: http://users.ccnet.com/~kiberkli/maclogin/about-maclogin.html later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 7 12:16:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA22558; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:16:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA22553; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:15:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA01451; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:15:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA01440; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:15:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay2.mail.uk.psi.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA01377; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:15:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net [154.32.106.14]) by relay2.mail.uk.psi.net (8.8.4/) with ESMTP id RAA24306 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:15:35 +0100 (BST) Received: from nan.UUCP by sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (8.7.5/SMI-5.5-UKPSINet) id RAA25863; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:04:05 +0100 (BST) Received: by mailhost.nan.co.uk (sendmail 8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA22446; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:02:46 +0100 X-Sender: sw@mailhost.nan.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199707071239.OAA00676@grace.rob.cs.tu-bs.de> References: <802.9707071220@luigi> (cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 3.1 Organization: Network Analysis Ltd Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:02:43 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Sak Wathanasin Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] User account & Apps from same server? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In reply to Mario Klebsch DG1AM's message of the 07/07/97 at 14:39 +0200, > Hi! > > >> I do not exactly understand your situation. Do you want to mount two > >> different volumes on the same server using different user names and > >> passwords? > >> > > > >Yup, that's exactly what I want to do. > > [this is a public reply after a private question] > > This is not possible with netatalk, as you like to have it. The client > reuses the session with the afp server for each of its I think the limitation is not with netatalk but the AppleShare client on the Mac. It works this way with any AFP server, netatalk or not... The way I get round this is to put create a group for the common volume and add the appr user ids to that group, then give everyone permission to mount the common volume (directory). This is easily done using the AppleVoulmes.systema nd AppleVolumes.default mechnism discussed in another thread. Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK Internet: sw@nan.co.uk uucp: ...!britain.eu.net!nan!sw Phone: (+44) 1203 419996 Fax: (+44) 1203 690690 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 7 13:07:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA25551; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id NAA25548; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:07:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id NAA25546; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:07:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA25541; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:07:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707071707.NAA25541@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] fwd'd mesg Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 13:07:46 -0400 From: Evan P Cordes Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ------- Forwarded Message Return-Path: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA18096; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:28:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707071328.JAA18096@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:28:55 -0400 (EDT) From: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu To: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: BOUNCE netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu: Admin request of type /\bremove\b/i at line 1 >From epcordes Mon Jul 7 09:28:49 1997 Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA18091; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:28:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA07246; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:28:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA07239; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id JAA07121; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:28:32 -0400 (EDT) From: cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16445; Mon, 7 Jul 97 14:28:30 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:28:23 +0100 Received: from luigi (luigi.tees) by scorch; Mon, 7 Jul 97 14:29:59 BST Date: Mon, 7 Jul 97 14:30:52 BST Message-Id: <919.9707071330@luigi> To: mkl@grace.rob.cs.tu-bs.de Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] User account & Apps from same server? Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk - ------HEADER END-DONT REMOVE------ > Hi! > > >> I do not exactly understand your situation. Do you want to mount two > >> different volumes on the same server using different user names and > >> passwords? > >> > > > >Yup, that's exactly what I want to do. > > [this is a public reply after a private question] > > This is not possible with netatalk, as you like to have it. The client > reuses the session with the afp server for each of its > volumes. However (I never tried this, it is just an idea), if the > appletalk client thinks, that it it talking to two different servers, > it should be possible. I would try to register the server under a > different name. Then it would appear twice in the chooser. But I don't I tried that, I'm running netatalk on a machine called luigi, which is aliased in the NIS servers yp-map to appleserver, however, even after rebooting the Unix box the chooser only displays luigi as a viable appleshare server. > Registering twice probably can be done by using nbprgstr to register > the afp server using a different name or by starting a second afp Anybody know how to do this? > server using a different name (and probably different configuration). It was my understanding that each version of netatalk had to be assigned to a specific ethernet interface, am I wrong in this assumption? And finally: If neteatalk wont let me login twice to the same server, will CAP? later jb ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 7 13:46:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA26888; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:46:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA26879; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:46:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA14199; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:46:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA14190; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:46:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from taos.cs.unm.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA14160; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (colinj@localhost) by taos.cs.unm.edu (8.8.4/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA12504; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:45:34 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: taos.cs.unm.edu: colinj owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 11:45:34 -0600 (MDT) From: Colin Eric Johnson To: Evan P Cordes cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] fwd'd mesg In-Reply-To: <199707071707.NAA25541@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In reference to having a specific name come up in the Macs chooser you can use the -n flag to afpd to specify a nbpname, from the man page: AFPD(8) AFPD(8) -n nbpname Specifies that nbpname should be used for NBP reg- istration, instead of the first component of the hostname in the local zone. Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ Life is a movie, write your own ending - J. Henson, et al. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 7 13:46:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA26913; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:46:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA26884; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:46:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA01077; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:45:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA01071; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:45:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uustar.starnet.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA01038; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:45:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from Udatapag@localhost) by uustar.starnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id MAA01605; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:42:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [172.16.6.1] by datapage.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA17993; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:26:54 -0500 X-Sender: tim@stlouis.datapage.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199707022102.OAA29577@mail1.halcyon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:26:48 -0500 To: wdickson@nwnexus.com (William R. Dickson) From: Tim Rand Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: $USER variable in AppleVolumes.system? Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 4:01 PM -0500 7/2/97, William R. Dickson wrote: >Say I've got lots of users, so many that I don't want to be creating a >.AppleVolumes file in each of their home directories. For the sake of >argument, let's pretend that five is such a large number. > >Now, I want every user, when s/he connects, to see two things in the >chooser -- the user's home directory, an the user's personal web >directory. (Again, for the sake of argument, linking the web directory >into the home directory isn't possible, due to a hypothetical complicated >nfsmount issue.) I accomplish this in the following manner: Using NCSA's HTTPD naming scheme of a directory underneath the user's home of $HOME/public_html, all you have to do is estabilsh in your /usr/local/atalk/etc/AppleVolumes.default file, a reference to the user's public _html directory. My AppleVolumes.default file is as follows: # This file may look empty when viewed with "vi". In fact, there is one # '~', so users with no AppleVolumes file in their home directory get # their home directory by default. ~ ~/public_html /production /production /production/ioq/mac "Mass Storage" /prod2 /prod2 /red /red /blue /blue /yellow /yellow /green /green /cdrom /cdrom Now, if your directory structure is different, then you might have to establish some links to make this work. --- Tim Rand tim@datapage.com VP Information Systems +1-314-278-8888 (voice) Datapage Technologies International, Inc. +1-314-278-2180 (fax) 222 Turner Blvd. St. Peters, MO 63376 USA From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 7 13:47:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA26985; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:47:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA26976; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:47:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA01478; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:46:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA01468; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from email.cybergrafx.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA00860; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:45:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from arthur.rothwell.holly-springs.nc.us (rtp-nc10-01.ix.netcom.com [206.214.141.97]) by email.cybergrafx.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA12941 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:45:10 -0400 Message-Id: <199707071745.NAA12941@email.cybergrafx.com> From: "Michael Rothwell" To: Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] fwd'd mesg Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:34:58 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Here's what I got when I just started another afpd (afpd -n Bubba) on my household server (Linux 2.0.20): bridge:~# /usr/local/atalk/etc/afpd -n Bubba bridge:~# nbplkup Bubba:AFPServer 24.107:129 Bridge:AFPServer 24.107:130 HP LaserJet 5MP:LaserWriter 24.107:128 Bridge:netatalk 24.107:4 Bridge:Workstation 24.107:4 FrankenMac: Macintosh 65280.1:250 FrankenMac:Workstation 65280.1:4 It shows up as a different node on the same address. And I can mount the two 'different' servers with different usernames. From FrankenMac (my wife's Mac -- built from spare parts), I can mount my user space and her user space simultaneously by logging in twice. FrankenMac is in a different network because the server has only one ethernet interface, so atalkd won't seed the network. Hope it works for you! --Michael Rothwell ---------- > From: Evan P Cordes > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Subject: [netatalk-admins] fwd'd mesg > Date: Monday, July 07, 1997 1:07 PM > > > ------- Forwarded Message > > Return-Path: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) > id JAA18096; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:28:55 -0400 (EDT) > Message-Id: <199707071328.JAA18096@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:28:55 -0400 (EDT) > From: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > To: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Subject: BOUNCE netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu: Admin request of type /\bremove\b/i at line 1 > > >From epcordes Mon Jul 7 09:28:49 1997 > Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) > with ESMTP id JAA18091; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:28:49 -0400 (EDT) > Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) > with X.500 id JAA07246; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:28:48 -0400 (EDT) > Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) > with X.500 id JAA07239; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:28:46 -0400 (EDT) > Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) > with SMTP id JAA07121; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:28:32 -0400 (EDT) > From: cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk > Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) > id AA16445; Mon, 7 Jul 97 14:28:30 BST > Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:28:23 +0100 > Received: from luigi (luigi.tees) by scorch; Mon, 7 Jul 97 14:29:59 BST > Date: Mon, 7 Jul 97 14:30:52 BST > Message-Id: <919.9707071330@luigi> > To: mkl@grace.rob.cs.tu-bs.de > Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] User account & Apps from same server? > Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk > > - ------HEADER END-DONT REMOVE------ > > Hi! > > > > >> I do not exactly understand your situation. Do you want to mount two > > >> different volumes on the same server using different user names and > > >> passwords? > > >> > > > > > >Yup, that's exactly what I want to do. > > > > [this is a public reply after a private question] > > > > This is not possible with netatalk, as you like to have it. The client > > reuses the session with the afp server for each of its > > volumes. However (I never tried this, it is just an idea), if the > > appletalk client thinks, that it it talking to two different servers, > > it should be possible. I would try to register the server under a > > different name. Then it would appear twice in the chooser. But I don't > I tried that, I'm running netatalk on a machine called luigi, which is aliased > in the NIS servers yp-map to appleserver, however, even after rebooting the > Unix box the chooser only displays luigi as a viable appleshare server. > > Registering twice probably can be done by using nbprgstr to register > > the afp server using a different name or by starting a second afp > Anybody know how to do this? > > server using a different name (and probably different configuration). > It was my understanding that each version of netatalk had to be assigned to > a specific ethernet interface, am I wrong in this assumption? > And finally: > If neteatalk wont let me login twice to the same server, will CAP? > later > jb > > ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 7 14:46:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA00237; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:46:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA00225; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:46:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA06000; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:46:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA05979; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uustar.starnet.net by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA05946; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:46:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uustar.starnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id NAA16519; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:41:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [172.16.6.1] by datapage.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA18893; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:19:09 -0500 X-Sender: tim@stlouis.datapage.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <33B96FB5.16D9@beacon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 13:13:38 -0500 To: "Patrick M. Frazer" From: Tim Rand Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: ushare to netatalk resource fork conversion? Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 3:59 PM -0500 7/1/97, Patrick M. Frazer wrote: >What I would rather do is to move the data from one Unix filesystem to >another, then convert the UShare resource forks into the format used by >Netatalk. Does anyone have any ideas or pointers to get me started? >I've done enough analysis to discover that the two packages' forks are >very different, but that's it. Pointers to detailed specs of the >different resource fork layouts would suffice; I've already accepted the >fact that I'll probably be writing a conversion program... Try moving the resource fork files to a .AppleDouble directory under the directory where the file resides. This worked for me where I converted form Wolongong's Pathway NFS format to netatalk's format. Pathway NFS used a prefix of ._filename for the resource fork. If the base (data fork) file name was XYZ then resource fork was ._XYZ I suspect that simply moving UShare's files to the right place will work. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 7 15:29:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA02661; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 15:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA02647; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 15:29:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA07578; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 15:28:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA07569; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 15:28:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hook.beacon.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id PAA07555; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 15:28:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rafiki (rafiki.beacon.com) by hook.beacon.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28795; Mon, 7 Jul 97 15:30:06 EDT Message-Id: <33C14355.7498@beacon.com> Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 15:28:21 -0400 From: "Patrick M. Frazer" Organization: The Beacon Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4c) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Rand Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: ushare to netatalk resource fork conversion? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Tim Rand wrote: > > At 3:59 PM -0500 7/1/97, Patrick M. Frazer wrote: > >What I would rather do is to move the data from one Unix filesystem to > >another, then convert the UShare resource forks into the format used by > >Netatalk. Does anyone have any ideas or pointers to get me started? > >I've done enough analysis to discover that the two packages' forks are > >very different, but that's it. Pointers to detailed specs of the > >different resource fork layouts would suffice; I've already accepted the > >fact that I'll probably be writing a conversion program... > > Try moving the resource fork files to a .AppleDouble directory under the > directory where the file resides. This worked for me where I converted > form Wolongong's Pathway NFS format to netatalk's format. > > Pathway NFS used a prefix of ._filename for the resource fork. > > If the base (data fork) file name was XYZ then resource fork was ._XYZ > > I suspect that simply moving UShare's files to the right place will work. I wish it were that easy. Good idea though. Thanks to Tim, Frank Morton and Dan Pritts for responses to my query. The synopsis of what I've heard is to turn the Ushare data into a MacBinary format and use Netatalk's command set built around 'megatron' to pull it back out. Sounds simple enough, but there's no way known to IPT's tech support guys to turn the Ushare data and resource forks into a MacBinary. (Ugh!) Having recently found the 'mcvert' package which will turn a "real" Mac file into a MacBinary format, I'm left with the task of turning the Ushare resource fork into a "normal" resource fork. The techs at IPT have provided this much information: Offset Description 0-32 Finder Info 33-255 Proprietary 256 Comment Length 257-456 Comment 457-511 Proprietary 512- Resource fork data It looks like if I can interpret and use the 32 bytes of Finder Info and the data after offset 512 I can construct a "normal" resource fork. Does anyone on this list have any insight into this? Anyone know how the 32 bytes of Finder Info are laid out? Anyone have some Tylenol? -Patrick From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 7 16:07:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id QAA04547; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:07:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id QAA04543; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:07:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id QAA04540; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA04535; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:07:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707072007.QAA04535@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] fwd: Re: AppleVolumes.system vs. AppleVolumes.default Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 16:07:07 -0400 From: Evan P Cordes Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ------- Forwarded Message Return-Path: addie@romulus.sci.usq.edu.au Received: from romulus.sci.usq.edu.au by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA17785; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:48:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from addie@localhost) by romulus.sci.usq.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA26379 for epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 09:48:22 +1000 (EST) From: Ron Addie Message-Id: <199707032348.JAA26379@romulus.sci.usq.edu.au> Subject: Re: AppleVolumes.system vs. AppleVolumes.default To: epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (Evan P Cordes) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 09:48:21 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199707031947.PAA11575@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> from "Evan P Cordes" at Jul 3, 97 03:47:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Does the AppleVolumes.default file really have any function? When I > remove it, my home directory still shows up in the chooser, whether I have > a $HOME/.AppleVolumes file or not. And when I add pathnames to it, no > additional volumes show up in the chooser. I have to add those to the > AppleVolumes.system file. > > Is there any reason I shouldn't delete AppleVolumes.default? > I have just noticed the same thing, with some dismay. The AppleVolumes.default file does not seem to provide any additional volumes to users, and now even the entries in AppleVolumes.system file seem to be ignored. I am using the same software! The only change is that I now have an AppleVolumes.default file in /usr/local/atalk/etc! Ron Addie Department of Mathematics and Computing, USQ ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 7 16:12:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id QAA05191; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:12:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id QAA05097; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:12:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id QAA05044; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:12:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA04976; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 16:11:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707072011.QAA04976@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] fwd: AppleVolumes.system vs. AppleVolumes.default Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 16:11:46 -0400 From: Evan P Cordes Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ------- Forwarded Message Return-Path: addie@romulus.sci.usq.edu.au Received: from romulus.sci.usq.edu.au by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA17785; Thu, 3 Jul 1997 19:48:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from addie@localhost) by romulus.sci.usq.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA26379 for epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 4 Jul 1997 09:48:22 +1000 (EST) From: Ron Addie Message-Id: <199707032348.JAA26379@romulus.sci.usq.edu.au> Subject: Re: AppleVolumes.system vs. AppleVolumes.default To: epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (Evan P Cordes) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 09:48:21 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199707031947.PAA11575@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> from "Evan P Cordes" at Jul 3, 97 03:47:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Does the AppleVolumes.default file really have any function? When I > remove it, my home directory still shows up in the chooser, whether I have > a $HOME/.AppleVolumes file or not. And when I add pathnames to it, no > additional volumes show up in the chooser. I have to add those to the > AppleVolumes.system file. > > Is there any reason I shouldn't delete AppleVolumes.default? > I have just noticed the same thing, with some dismay. The AppleVolumes.default file does not seem to provide any additional volumes to users, and now even the entries in AppleVolumes.system file seem to be ignored. I am using the same software! The only change is that I now have an AppleVolumes.default file in /usr/local/atalk/etc! Ron Addie Department of Mathematics and Computing, USQ ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 7 17:44:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id RAA11977; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:44:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA11973; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:44:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA07816; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:43:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA07796; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:43:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA07773; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:43:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id OAA30806; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:44:15 -0700 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:44:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: Colin Eric Johnson cc: Georg Schwarz , "Michael M. Freeman" , Netatalk Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] eth0: Setting Rx mode...? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Colin Eric Johnson wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Georg Schwarz wrote: > > [snip] > > > thanks for confirming this. Does anyone happen to know why atalkd takes > > so long to start up? (it's a Pentium 100 with 24 MB RAM, so that should > > not be an issue) Is atalk somehow listening to the network waiting for > > something (router?)? Could I tell it not to? Timeouts. It's waiting to hear from a router, and tries three times, last I looked. > I would assume that this has to do with the fact that Appletalk is a very > "chatty" protocol. I know that in the readme for netatalk it warns that > atalkd should not be started in the background as it has to build a > database. I don't think it's "waiting" for anything, I believe it is > recording the other appletalk devices it finds. Though Appletalk is "chatty", that's the problem only to the extent that atalkd asks the net for the current configuration. The database in question includes, among other things, the local Atalk address. If anything tries to start before that's stable, it'll get mis-configured. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 7 17:53:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id RAA12685; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:53:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA12678; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:53:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA10625; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:53:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA10622; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:53:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA10615; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:53:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id OAA28824; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:53:27 -0700 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:53:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: "Patrick M. Frazer" cc: Tim Rand , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: ushare to netatalk resource fork conversion? In-Reply-To: <33C14355.7498@beacon.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Patrick M. Frazer wrote: > I wish it were that easy. Good idea though. Thanks to Tim, Frank > Morton and Dan Pritts for responses to my query. > > The synopsis of what I've heard is to turn the Ushare data into a > MacBinary format and use Netatalk's command set built around 'megatron' > to pull it back out. Sounds simple enough, but there's no way known to > IPT's tech support guys to turn the Ushare data and resource forks into > a MacBinary. (Ugh!) Having recently found the 'mcvert' package which > will turn a "real" Mac file into a MacBinary format, I'm left with the > task of turning the Ushare resource fork into a "normal" resource fork. > The techs at IPT have provided this much information: > > Offset Description > 0-32 Finder Info > 33-255 Proprietary > 256 Comment Length > 257-456 Comment > 457-511 Proprietary > 512- Resource fork data > > It looks like if I can interpret and use the 32 bytes of Finder Info and > the data after offset 512 I can construct a "normal" resource fork. > Does anyone on this list have any insight into this? Anyone know how > the 32 bytes of Finder Info are laid out? Anyone have some Tylenol? How is the finder info layed out in either an .AppleDouble file, or in a macbinary file? If it's a block of 32 bytes, I bet it's the same, so just directly copy it over. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 8 11:40:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA10770; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:40:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA10764; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:40:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA18024; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:39:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA18019; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:39:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from procyon.biostat.wisc.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id LAA18014; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:39:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gaston@localhost) by procyon.biostat.wisc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA03207; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 10:40:03 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 10:40:03 -0500 From: David Gaston Message-Id: <199707081540.KAA03207@procyon.biostat.wisc.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Routing Errors with Solaris 2.5 Cc: gaston@procyon.biostat.wisc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: cJpwxB+ZQvjHMa5eKzisAg== Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am testing netatalk-1.4b2 on a Sun Ultra1 running Solaris 2.5/SunOS 5.5. When I run atalkd my messages file begins filling with the following errors: Jul 7 17:00:56 procyon atalkd[995]: route: 6259 -> 44282.229: No such file or directory Jul 7 17:22:30 procyon atalkd[995]: route: 44396 -> 44282.229: No such file or directory Jul 7 17:22:30 procyon atalkd[995]: route: 44400 -> 44282.229: No such file or directory Jul 7 17:22:30 procyon atalkd[995]: route: 44401 -> 44282.229: No such file or directory ... Eventually, my machine crashes and reboots with the following error: Jul 2 13:17:13 procyon unix: panic[cpu0]/thread=0x30023ec0: kernel heap corruption detected Has anyone experienced a similar problem? Any ideas on how to fix it? Thanks, Dave _______________________________________________________________________________ David M. Gaston K6/422 CSC, 600 Highland Ave. Asst. Director of Biomedical Computing Madison, Wisconsin 53792 Department of Biostatistics Voice: 608-263-4446 Fax:608-265-5579 University of Wisconsin Medical School gaston@biostat.wisc.edu _______________________________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 8 12:06:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA11829; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:06:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA11822; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:06:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA20396; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:06:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA20390; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:06:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from venus.open.ac.uk by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA20382; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 12:06:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bean.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.1); Tue, 8 Jul 1997 17:05:18 +0100 Received: from [137.108.33.7] by bean.open.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA14481; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 17:05:06 +0100 X-Sender: rob_g@bean.open.ac.uk Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 17:08:35 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: r.w.griffiths@open.ac.uk (Rob Griffiths) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Routing Errors with Solaris 2.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >I am testing netatalk-1.4b2 on a Sun Ultra1 running Solaris 2.5/SunOS 5.5. >When >I run atalkd my messages file begins filling with the following errors: > >Jul 7 17:00:56 procyon atalkd[995]: route: 6259 -> 44282.229: No such file or >directory >Jul 7 17:22:30 procyon atalkd[995]: route: 44396 -> 44282.229: No such >file or >directory >Jul 7 17:22:30 procyon atalkd[995]: route: 44400 -> 44282.229: No such >file or >directory >Jul 7 17:22:30 procyon atalkd[995]: route: 44401 -> 44282.229: No such >file or >directory >... > >Eventually, my machine crashes and reboots with the following error: >Jul 2 13:17:13 procyon unix: panic[cpu0]/thread=0x30023ec0: kernel heap >corruption detected > >Has anyone experienced a similar problem? Any ideas on how to fix it? > I get exactly the same problem :-( From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 8 13:58:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA16249; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 13:58:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id NAA16246; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 13:58:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id NAA16243; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 13:58:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA16239; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 13:58:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707081758.NAA16239@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: netatalk@umich.edu To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] fwd: AppleVolumes.system vs. AppleVolumes.default Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 13:58:11 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ------- Forwarded Message >From epcordes Tue Jul 8 04:38:00 1997 Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA27907; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 04:38:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA06661; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 04:37:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA06658; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 04:37:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA06653; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 04:37:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.7.3) id KAA07078; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 10:37:39 +0200 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 10:37:38 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: Evan P Cordes cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] fwd: AppleVolumes.system vs. AppleVolumes.default In-Reply-To: <199707072011.QAA04976@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Does the AppleVolumes.default file really have any function? When I > > remove it, my home directory still shows up in the chooser, whether I have > > a $HOME/.AppleVolumes file or not. And when I add pathnames to it, no > > additional volumes show up in the chooser. I have to add those to the > > AppleVolumes.system file. > > > > Is there any reason I shouldn't delete AppleVolumes.default? > > > > I have just noticed the same thing, with some dismay. The AppleVolumes.default > file does not seem to provide any additional volumes to users, and > now even the entries in AppleVolumes.system file seem to be ignored. > I am using the same software! The only change is that I now have > an AppleVolumes.default file in /usr/local/atalk/etc! AppleVolumes.default provides Volumes to unauthorized Users (login as guest). The default localtion for AppleVolumes.system and default is /usr/local/etc/. Possibly this is different from platform to platform. PoC ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 8 15:58:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA19558; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 15:58:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA19553; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 15:58:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA17903; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 15:58:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA17901; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 15:58:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gandalf.umcs.maine.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id PAA17877; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 15:58:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (jerrys@localhost) by gandalf.umcs.maine.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA13963 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 15:58:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 15:58:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry Spaulding To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Permissions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am having problems with netatalk 1.4b2 on a sparc20 using solaris 2.5.1. Everything is fine when I am root, but when any other user wants to use nbp functions or pap or other utils, they get a permission denied error. For instance, pap returns a nbp_lookup: permission denied error. Any ideas? I tried using the new auth file but it wouldnt compile. ******************************************************** Jerry Spaulding jerrys@gandalf.umcs.maine.edu jerry@icarus.umesci.maine.edu jspaul51@maine.maine.edu fnord@nowhere.backloop.net Http://www.umcs.maine.edu/~jerrys/ Lord Bobo Lives. ******************************************************** From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 9 02:30:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id CAA08569; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 02:30:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id CAA08559; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 02:30:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA25458; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 02:30:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA25455; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 02:30:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id CAA25444; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 02:30:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA23144; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 23:08:47 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA13321; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 23:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 23:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707090607.XAA13321@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: mfreeman@iglou.com, everette_allen@ncsu.edu, joakim.ahlen@mediaprint.se, greg@smithphoto.com, halset@pvv.ntnu.no, hannu@ddbn.ee, kateley@apple.com, jwa@jammed.com, mbbecker@mail.deforest.k12.wi.us, chandhok@within.com, netatalk@umich.edu, brasherj@zoology.washington.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu, appleshareip@private.lists.apple.com, wrstuden@loki.stanford.edu, richardk@iprolink.co.nz, kenp@nmrfam.wisc.edu, schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov, mego@url.de, wrd@awenet.com Subject: [netatalk-admins] afp/tcp patch release a11 available Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu my patches to netatalk-1.4b2 that add afp/tcp support are now available at ftp.u.washington.edu. here are the relevant urls: features of this patch: afp_read should now deal w/ all resource forks correctly. if running tcp-only, afpd won't de-register its nbp name. lock directory should get specified correctly. let me know if it's not. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 9 06:41:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id GAA26314; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 06:41:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA26310; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 06:41:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA17229; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 06:41:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA17227; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 06:41:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id GAA17223; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 06:41:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27556; Wed, 9 Jul 97 11:41:22 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:41:17 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from sue (sue.tees) by scorch; Wed, 9 Jul 97 11:42:55 BST Date: Wed, 9 Jul 97 11:42:30 BST Message-Id: <6397.9707091042@sue> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: afp/tcp patch release a11 Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folks, Well I've just compiled up netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a11, it complied clean first time, (with the exception that our system: SunOS 4.1.4, doesn't seem to have bitypes.h or cdefs.h installed, so I downloaded them and patched the source...) I've yet to test it on a "live" system, but I'll get to that this afternoon. (11:28am local) I spent several hours last night building a reasonably complete list of file mappings for the AppleVolumes.system file (included below) enjoy: (Note: as noted in an earlier post I have problems printing to a lineprinter via ghostscript and the laserwriter8 driver with simpletext, so most text file are assigned to BBedit, similarly my choice of GFX prog is GraphicConverter, Sound = SoundApp, Mpeg = quicktime) later jb # # This file is read before (after if -u is specified) the user's # AppleVolume file. Add extension mappings and volumes here. # # default translation -- note that CR <-> LF translation is done on all # files of type TEXT. The first line turns off translation for files of # unknown type, the second turns this translation on. . BINA UNIX # . TEXT UNIX # sounds .8med STrk SCPL .8svx 8SVX SCPL .svx 8SVX SCPL .hcom FSSD SCPL .mod STrk SCPL .midi Midi SCPL .mid Midi SCPL .med STrk SCPL .nst STrk SCPL .otk OKTA SCPL .mp2 MPEG SCPL .mpa MPEG SCPL .m1a MPEG SCPL .aif AIFF SCPL .aiff AIFF SCPL .aifc AIFF SCPL .snd BINA SCPL .wve BINA SCPL .wav WAVE SCPL .au ULAW SCPL .ul ULAW SCPL .al ALAW SCPL .voc VOC SCPL .ra PRNA PNst .rm PRNA PNst .ram PNRM PNst # video .moov MooV TVOD .qt MooV TVOD .mov MooV TVOD .mpg MPEG TVOD .mpeg MPEG TVOD .mpe MPEG TVOD .m1s MPEG MPsp .m1v MPEG mMPG .m2v MPG2 MPG2 # formatted text .html TEXT MOSS .htm TEXT MOSS .url AURL Arch .rtf TEXT MSWD .doc WDBN MSWD .rxt TEXT R*ch .txt TEXT R*ch .tx8 TEXT R*ch .text TEXT R*ch .asc TEXT R*ch .ascii TEXT R*ch .bas TEXT R*ch .bat TEXT R*ch .cmd TEXT R*ch .diz TEXT R*ch .faq TEXT R*ch .ini TEXT R*ch .mak TEXT R*ch .me TEXT R*ch .pl TEXT R*ch .prn TEXT R*ch .1st TEXT R*ch .readme TEXT R*ch .rme TEXT R*ch .read TEXT R*ch readme TEXT R*ch README TEXT R*ch INSTALL TEXT R*ch .rtx TEXT R*ch .uue TEXT R*ch .uu TEXT R*ch .ai EPSF vgrd .eps EPSF vgrd .ps EPSF vgrd .epsf EPSF vgrd .pdf PDF CARO # compressed archives .bin BINA SIT! .zip ZIP ZIP .tar TARF TAR! .gz Gzip SIT! .Z ZIVM SIT! .sea APPL aust .cpt PACT CPCT .sit SITD SIT! .hqx TEXT SIT! .img rohd ddsk .image dlmg dCpy # graphics .psd 8BPS 8BIM .iff ILBM GKON .ilbm ILBM GKON .lbm ILBM GKON .xbm XBM GKON .xpm XPM GKON .pbm PPGM GKON .ppm PPGM GKON .pgm PPGM GKON .png PNG GKON .ptng PNTG GKON .pm PMpm GKON .plt HPGL GKON .qdv QDVf GKON .raw BINA GKON .pcs PICS GKON .targa TPIC GKON .tga TPIC GKON .pac STAD GKON .rle RLE GKON .six SIXE GKON .sup SCRN GKON .ras SUNn GKON .sr SUNn GKON .sun SUNn GKON .scg RIX3 GKON .sci RIX3 GKON .scp RIX3 GKON .scr RIX3 GKON .scu RIX3 GKON .wmf WMF GKON .sgi SGI GKON .rgb SGI GKON .rgba SGI GKON .riff RIFF GKON .tiff TIFF GKON .tif TIFF GKON .vff VFFf GKON .bmp BMPp GKON .bga BMPp GKON .vga BMPp GKON .dcx DCXx GKON .pcx PCXx GKON .mac PICT GKON .pct PICT GKON .pic PICT GKON .pict PICT GKON .jpeg JPEG GKON .jfif JPEG GKON .jpe JPEG GKON .jpg JPEG GKON .gif GIFf GKON From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 9 06:47:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id GAA26534; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 06:47:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA26529; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 06:47:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA16480; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 06:46:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA16478; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 06:46:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA16467; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 06:46:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:46:44 +0200 Received: by lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de (940816.SGI.8.6.9/ZRZ-Gen) id MAA10244; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:46:43 +0200 Message-Id: <199707091046.MAA10244@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: afp/tcp patch release a11 In-Reply-To: <6397.9707091042@sue> from John Barry -Technician at "Jul 9, 97 11:42:30 am" To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:46:43 +0200 (MEST) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) From: Georg Schwarz Reply-To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > I spent several hours last night building a reasonably complete list of f= ile > mappings for the AppleVolumes.system file (included below) enjoy: Thanks. BTW, does Netatalk treat extensions case insensitively? (i.e. are .htm and .HTM equivalent by definition?) --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik Tel. +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ Sekr. PN 7-1, Hardenbergstr. 36, D-10623 Berlin IRC: kuroi From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 9 07:29:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id HAA27905; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 07:29:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA27901; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 07:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA21608; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 07:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA21606; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 07:29:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA21585; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 07:29:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.7.3) id NAA29880; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:29:14 +0200 Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:29:11 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: afp/tcp patch release a11 In-Reply-To: <6397.9707091042@sue> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > I spent several hours last night building a reasonably complete list of file > mappings for the AppleVolumes.system file (included below) enjoy: Ugh, what a mess! Thank you *VERY* much! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 9 07:31:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id HAA28011; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 07:31:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA27988; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 07:31:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA20475; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 07:30:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA20472; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 07:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA20462; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 07:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.7.3) id NAA29945; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:31:09 +0200 Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:31:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: afp/tcp patch release a11 In-Reply-To: <199707091046.MAA10244@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > BTW, does Netatalk treat extensions case insensitively? (i.e. are .htm and > .HTM equivalent by definition?) No as of my knowing and at last, it shouldn't, 'cause Unix-FS are case sensitive. PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 9 07:33:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id HAA28283; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 07:33:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA28268; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 07:33:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA20754; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 07:33:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA20752; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 07:33:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA20748; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 07:33:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:33:30 +0200 Received: by lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de (940816.SGI.8.6.9/ZRZ-Gen) id NAA13936; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:33:29 +0200 Message-Id: <199707091133.NAA13936@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: afp/tcp patch release a11 In-Reply-To: from Patrik Schindler at "Jul 9, 97 01:31:07 pm" To: poc@pingnet.de (Patrik Schindler) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:33:28 +0200 (MEST) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) From: Georg Schwarz Reply-To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > BTW, does Netatalk treat extensions case insensitively? (i.e. are .htm = and > > .HTM equivalent by definition?) >=20 > No as of my knowing and at last, it shouldn't, 'cause Unix-FS are case=20 > sensitive. still it might make sense to treat extension resolving case insensitively. --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik Tel. +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ Sekr. PN 7-1, Hardenbergstr. 36, D-10623 Berlin IRC: kuroi From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 9 09:57:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA02297; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:57:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id JAA02283; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:57:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id JAA02281; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:57:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA01974; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:52:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707091352.JAA01974@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de cc: poc@pingnet.de (Patrik Schindler), netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: afp/tcp patch release a11 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jul 1997 13:33:28 +0200." <199707091133.NAA13936@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 09:52:12 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Georg Schwarz > To: poc@pingnet.de (Patrik Schindler) > > > BTW, does Netatalk treat extensions case insensitively? (i.e. are .htm > > > and .HTM equivalent by definition?) > > No as of my knowing and at last, it shouldn't, 'cause Unix-FS are case > > sensitive. > still it might make sense to treat extension resolving case insensitively. They are. See etc/afpd/volume.c. The function in question is getextmap(). The check is done with strdiacasecmp(), a diacritically sensative, case insensative, string compare. Which is found in libatalk/util/strdicasecmp.c. The file name is funny because "ar" truncates the expected name. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 9 10:25:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA04121; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:25:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA04117; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:25:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA09356; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:25:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA09349; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:25:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id KAA09268; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:24:51 -0400 (EDT) From: cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28691; Wed, 9 Jul 97 15:25:02 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 15:25:00 +0100 Received: from luigi (luigi.tees) by scorch; Wed, 9 Jul 97 15:26:37 BST Date: Wed, 9 Jul 97 15:27:33 BST Message-Id: <563.9707091427@luigi> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] automounting problem Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folks, I'm having problems mounting a directory... Normally, a users .html files would be kept in ~/public_html, but this is not the case with our site. We have both an intranet and a connection to the internet. All files for the intranet are kept on the intranet server and automounted to /iws/ WWW files are in /www/ This is done so that we can quota each of the users file areas individually. My question is how do I mount the /iws area from a generic .AppleVolumes file, (explicitly stating the path works fine, but I don't want to have to create 2000+ individually tailored files...) I've tried using the following /iws/~ "Intaranet Area" /iws/$LOGNAME "Intaranet Area" /iws/`whoami` "Intaranet Area" /iws/ "Intaranet Area" As well as a couple of custom shell variables, all without success, any ideas? later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 9 11:01:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA05712; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:01:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA05707; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:01:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA22304; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:00:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA22282; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:00:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from email.cybergrafx.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA22270; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:00:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elseed.cybergrafx.com (bridge.cybergrafx.com [207.211.125.1]) by email.cybergrafx.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA17154; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:00:20 -0400 Message-Id: <199707091500.LAA17154@email.cybergrafx.com> From: "Michael Rothwell" To: , Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] automounting problem Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:01:44 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >From reading previous messages, etc., this functionality is not available in Netatalk as it is in Samba. For a simple fix, you could mount /iws and leave it to the user to find their folder. ---------- > From: cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Subject: [netatalk-admins] automounting problem > Date: Wednesday, July 09, 1997 11:27 AM > > Hi folks, > I'm having problems mounting a directory... > Normally, a users .html files would be kept in ~/public_html, but this is not > the case with our site. We have both an intranet and a connection to the > internet. All files for the intranet are kept on the intranet server and > automounted to /iws/ WWW files are in /www/ > This is done so that we can quota each of the users file areas individually. > > My question is how do I mount the /iws area from a generic .AppleVolumes file, > (explicitly stating the path works fine, but I don't want to have to create > 2000+ individually tailored files...) > > I've tried using the following > > /iws/~ "Intaranet Area" > /iws/$LOGNAME "Intaranet Area" > /iws/`whoami` "Intaranet Area" > /iws/ "Intaranet Area" > As well as a couple of custom shell variables, all without success, any ideas? > later > jb > From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 9 11:40:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA07634; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:40:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA07621; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:40:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA11082; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:40:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA11077; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:40:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id LAA11049; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 11:40:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28937; Wed, 9 Jul 97 16:15:15 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 16:15:13 +0100 From: cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk Received: from luigi (luigi.tees) by scorch; Wed, 9 Jul 97 16:16:51 BST Date: Wed, 9 Jul 97 16:17:46 BST Message-Id: <579.9707091517@luigi> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] automounting problem Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hmmm... >From reading previous messages, etc., this functionality is not available >in Netatalk as it is in Samba. For a simple fix, you could mount /iws and >leave it to the user to find their folder. The directory is *automounted* Meaning that /iws is an empty directory. When somebody cd's to /iws/fred the automounter temporarily mounts the directory /users/data/fred from the intranet server onto /iws on the local machine... Oh well, looks like I'm writing a perl script tonight :( later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 9 14:32:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA19343; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA19337; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:32:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA08257; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:31:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA08250; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:31:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from colossus.mathcs.rhodes.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA08219; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:31:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcp.mathcs.rhodes.edu (mcp.mathcs.rhodes.edu [198.78.24.17]) by mathcs.rhodes.edu. (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA03429 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:31:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mcp.mathcs.rhodes.edu (8.8.5) id NAA07458; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:31:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199707091831.NAA07458@mcp.mathcs.rhodes.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] automounting problem Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 13:31:51 -0500 From: David Mankin Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 9 Jul 97 16:17:46 BST cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk wrote: >Hmmm... >>From reading previous messages, etc., this functionality is not available >>in Netatalk as it is in Samba. For a simple fix, you could mount /iws and >>leave it to the user to find their folder. > >The directory is *automounted* Meaning that /iws is an empty directory. When >somebody cd's to /iws/fred the automounter temporarily mounts the directory >/users/data/fred from the intranet server onto /iws on the local machine... If it weren't for the automounting problem this would be an ideal solution because it allows the users to make public files in their directories and drop boxes. Then they can see others' directories and use their drop boxes. That way it becomes a file -sharing- mechanism as well as a serving device. >Oh well, looks like I'm writing a perl script tonight :( ^^^^ That should be :-) -- Perl scripting is fun! -dm -- David Mankin | "This is a spaceman and he's trying to get to his mankin@mathcs.rhodes.edu | spaceship." "Well, can't he just beam up?" "This dmankin@etl.noaa.gov | is reality, Greg." -- E.T. the Extra Terrestrial --- PGP key Fingerprint 46 45 2E CF 1B EA A8 D2 C4 37 33 18 CC 20 A7 C6 --- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 9 19:13:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id TAA07255; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:13:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA07245; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:13:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA05088; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA05084; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:12:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.mel.aone.net.au by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id TAA05071; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:12:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (d54-1.cpe.Sydney.aone.net.au [203.12.186.54]) by mail.mel.aone.net.au (8.6.13/8.6.11) with SMTP id JAA21482 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:12:59 +1000 Message-Id: <199707092312.JAA21482@mail.mel.aone.net.au> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Clarisworks and Netatalk/CAP Date: Thu, 10 Jul 97 09:19:30 +1000 x-sender: ur018119@mail01.syd.aone.net.au x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0 x49, February 10, 1997 From: Carl Olsen To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I am currently testing various versions of Macintosh Files services for Linux and have run into a problem with ClarisWorks. If I open a file from a shared Linux volume and leave it open in ClarisWorks for a while when you go to save it again it brings up the save as dialog box rather than just saving the file. If the volume is being shared by Netatalk (versions 1.3.3 and 1.4b2) the file name in the save as dialog box is replace by what looks like a 32 bit integer with a couple of letters on the end. If the volume is being shared by CAP then the File name is correct but because you are in the save as dialog when you press save it it asks do you want to replace the existing file. I have tried this from two different Macs and have also tried the same thing with the file being shared from one of the Macs. When the Mac is the file server ClarisWorks behaves normally. Has any one else come across this problem? +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | CARL OLSEN Email: colsen@ozemail.com.au | | Key Software Pty. Ltd. Phone: +61-4-1117-3004 (Mobile) | | Database & Network Consultants Fax: +61-2-9398-4294 | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 9 19:13:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id TAA07268; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:13:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA07247; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:13:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA15326; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:13:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA15324; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:13:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.mel.aone.net.au by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id TAA15315; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:13:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (d54-1.cpe.Sydney.aone.net.au [203.12.186.54]) by mail.mel.aone.net.au (8.6.13/8.6.11) with SMTP id JAA21487 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:13:01 +1000 Message-Id: <199707092313.JAA21487@mail.mel.aone.net.au> Subject: [netatalk-admins] HP DeskJet Printer Appletalk Server Date: Thu, 10 Jul 97 09:19:31 +1000 x-sender: ur018119@mail01.syd.aone.net.au x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0 x49, February 10, 1997 From: Carl Olsen To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have a HP850C printer which I currently have connected to my Linux box. >From here it is shared to both Windows (Samba) and Macs. On the windows side I can load the HP printer driver on the Windows machines and every thing works fine. Windows connects to the print over the network and spools through the Linux print spooler. On the Mac side however the HP driver is looking for an Appletalk printer of type DeskWriter. Yet because the printer is not connected to appletalk network (it only has a localtalk port) it cannot be found. I have tried using ghostscript and the laserWriter driver but this combination is not as flexible as the HP driver (Paper types, print quality etc). I have modified the LaserWriter server under CAP to act as a DeskWriter and the Mac Driver recognises it and will send print output to it. However I still have a couple of problems in relation to the "pap" messages the printer is sending and expecting. 1. When you select the printer in the chooser it tries to determine the printer type from the printer. Does any one know what it expects to see in the response message? 2. When I print the first print works fine. But If you do a second print the printer just starts flashing the green light (Power) and does not print. I presume there is something missing from the end of the last print. 3. When the HP spooler on the Mac starts sending to the printer it stalls for about 30 seconds before it starts sending the output to the printer. Does anyone know were to find the definition of the PAP messages the DeskWriter expects? +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | CARL OLSEN Email: colsen@ozemail.com.au | | Key Software Pty. Ltd. Phone: +61-4-1117-3004 (Mobile) | | Database & Network Consultants Fax: +61-2-9398-4294 | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 10 08:19:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id IAA29496; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 08:19:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA29492; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 08:19:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA11209; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 08:19:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA11207; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 08:19:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cc00mh.unity.ncsu.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA11195; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 08:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [152.1.11.13] (ivanova.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.11.13]) by cc00mh.unity.ncsu.edu (8.8.4/US19Dec96) with ESMTP id IAA29641 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 08:18:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: user@hesiod Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 08:18:47 -0400 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Everette G Allen Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] automounting problem Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu There is sort of a solution to this problem. Andy Maas formerly of Stanford Univ. did a mod of Netatalk 1.3.x to make it lookup the user's home dir in a bind database by use of hesiod calls. The design was to be used for afs but anything should work. Basically one puts a special entry in the configuration files on their "hesiod server" (which is really just a DNS server) of the form user.filsys HS TXT "afs /afs/data/users/a/b/buid w /mnt/buid" which tells netatalk to mount the afs path (could be ufs, nsf, dfs,afp, what ever) /afs/data/users/a/b/buid for read and write in the local dir /mnt/buid and publish it over afp. The volume shows up as "Home of buid" on the mac desktop. Check out: ftp://networking.stanford.edu/pub/andy/macleland/netatalk >On Wed, 9 Jul 97 16:17:46 BST cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk wrote: > >>Hmmm... >>>From reading previous messages, etc., this functionality is not available >>>in Netatalk as it is in Samba. For a simple fix, you could mount /iws and >>>leave it to the user to find their folder. >> >>The directory is *automounted* Meaning that /iws is an empty directory. When >>somebody cd's to /iws/fred the automounter temporarily mounts the directory >>/users/data/fred from the intranet server onto /iws on the local machine... > >If it weren't for the automounting problem this would be an ideal >solution because it allows the users to make public files in their >directories and drop boxes. Then they can see others' directories and >use their drop boxes. That way it becomes a file -sharing- mechanism >as well as a serving device. > >>Oh well, looks like I'm writing a perl script tonight :( > ^^^^ > That should be :-) -- > Perl scripting is fun! > >-dm >-- >David Mankin | "This is a spaceman and he's trying to get to his >mankin@mathcs.rhodes.edu | spaceship." "Well, can't he just beam up?" "This >dmankin@etl.noaa.gov | is reality, Greg." -- E.T. the Extra Terrestrial >--- PGP key Fingerprint 46 45 2E CF 1B EA A8 D2 C4 37 33 18 CC 20 A7 C6 --- Everette Gray Allen Consultant IV Box 7109 NCState Campus Computing Services Raleigh, NC 27695-7109 919-515-2517 Everette Gray Allen Consultant IV Box 7109 NCState Campus Computing Services Raleigh, NC 27695-7109 919-515-2517 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 10 17:51:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id RAA21055; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 17:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA21048; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 17:51:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA11905; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 17:50:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA11898; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 17:50:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news.netwiz.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA11885; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 17:50:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [207.171.206.94] ([207.171.206.94]) by news.netwiz.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA03364 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 14:49:15 -0700 Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 14:49:15 -0700 X-Sender: ost@netwiz.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Os Tyler Subject: [netatalk-admins] 0 files showing: 1.4b2 on solaris Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm trying to get 1.4b2 working on Solaris 2.5.1. on a Sparc4 The volumes indicated in AppleVolumes.system appear in the chooser just fine, and the volumes mount on a mac desktop. However, when the icon is double-clicked and the window opens, it shows 0 files. Files moved from the Mac into the open window are successfully copied to the unix box, but there is no way to retrieve any files from the unix box to the mac. I searched the mailing list and could find no indication of anyone having a similar problem. Suggestions please! Thanks very much, os From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 10 18:11:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id SAA21682; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 18:11:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA21673; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 18:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA09288; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 18:11:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA09281; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 18:11:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from taos.cs.unm.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA09266; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 18:11:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (colinj@localhost) by taos.cs.unm.edu (8.8.4/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA01852; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 16:10:53 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: taos.cs.unm.edu: colinj owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 16:10:52 -0600 (MDT) From: Colin Eric Johnson To: Os Tyler cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 0 files showing: 1.4b2 on solaris In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Os Tyler wrote: > I'm trying to get 1.4b2 working on Solaris 2.5.1. on a Sparc4 > > The volumes indicated in AppleVolumes.system appear in the chooser just > fine, and the volumes mount on a mac desktop. > > However, when the icon is double-clicked and the window opens, it shows 0 > files. Files moved from the Mac into the open window are successfully > copied to the unix box, but there is no way to retrieve any files from the > unix box to the mac. Have you checked the permissions on the unix side for the directories in question? If the users have write but not read or execute permissons set properly that could lead to the behavior you are seeing. Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ Why must I feel like that? Why must I chase the cat? - G. Clinton From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 10 20:30:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id UAA24007; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 20:30:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA24003; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 20:30:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA14349; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 20:29:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA14347; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 20:29:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.telstra.com.au by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA14342; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 20:29:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.telstra.com.au (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA09060 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:29:22 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail-gw.fwall.telstra.com.au(192.148.147.15) by mail via smap (V1.3) id sma008573; Fri Jul 11 10:27:27 1997 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail-gw.fwall.telstra.com.au (8.8.2/8.6.9) id KAA00545 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:27:22 +1000 (EST) Received: from cdn-mail.dn.itg.telecom.com.au(144.135.109.134) by mail-gw via smap (V1.3) id sma000014; Fri Jul 11 10:25:16 1997 Received: from troy.bms.itg.telecom.com.au (troy.bms.itg.telecom.com.au [144.136.174.207]) by cdn-mail.telecom.com.au (8.8.2/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA09596 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:25:14 +1000 (EST) Received: (from marcb@localhost) by troy.bms.itg.telecom.com.au (8.7.5/8.6.9) id KAA09468 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:13:12 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:13:12 +1000 (EST) From: "Marc A. Boschma" Message-Id: <199707110013.KAA09468@troy.bms.itg.telecom.com.au> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Capacity issues... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Has anyone determined just how many connections a netatalked host can handle (assume only file shares). ? Is it any better or worse than the afs of TCP/IP ? I am assuming it is in that there is a socket per file share open all the time. Have I missed anything ? Marc B. ------- _-_|\ Marc A. Boschma Email: marcb@telstra.com.au / \ Snr. Internet Specialist Phone: +61 3 9634 8798 Fax: +61 3 9634 5469 \_.^\*/ Telstra Corporation Smail: Locked Bag No. 4840 v Melbourne, VIC 8100, Australia From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 05:45:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id FAA22918; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 05:45:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id FAA22914; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 05:45:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA20109; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 05:45:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA20107; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 05:45:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id FAA20103; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 05:45:07 -0400 (EDT) From: cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09644; Fri, 11 Jul 97 10:45:39 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:45:36 +0100 Received: from luigi (luigi.tees) by scorch; Fri, 11 Jul 97 10:47:15 BST Date: Fri, 11 Jul 97 10:48:11 BST Message-Id: <1301.9707110948@luigi> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Rouge file? Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu People, I'm just installing netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a11, and thought I'd better just compare this with the standard netatalk-1.4b2 install, (more paranoia than anything else) a I've found a file included in the /etc directory in the standard install that's not present in the asun2.0a11 install.... standard netatalk-1.4b2: [10:19am] luigi la atalk/etc/n* -rwx------ 1 xxxxx 173721 Jul 9 10:01 netatalk -rwx------ 1 xxxxx 28312 May 15 18:15 netatalk.o netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a11: luigi% la atalk/etc/n* -rwx------ 1 xxxxx 27102 Jul 11 09:56 netatalk.o The `file` command reports thus: [10:21am] luigi file netatalk netatalk: sparc executable not stripped But when I try to run it I get: [10:22am] luigi netatalk Segmentation fault There is no mention of it in the man files in either version, ideas anybody? later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 06:14:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id GAA23546; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 06:14:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA23471; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 06:13:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA19973; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 06:13:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA19971; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 06:13:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chava.netmedia.net.il by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA19961; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 06:13:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leyada.jlm.k12.il ([192.115.119.3]) by chava.netmedia.net.il (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03256 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:14:35 +0200 (IST) Received: from MIN4100/MAIL_Q by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 11 Jul 97 13:13:10 +0200 Received: from MAIL_Q by MIN4100 (Mercury 1.21); 11 Jul 97 12:58:16 +0200 Received: from tycoon by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 11 Jul 97 12:58:09 +0200 Message-ID: <33C6039E.2781E494@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:57:50 +0300 From: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" Organization: Hebrew University High School X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk Admins Mailing List Subject: [netatalk-admins] Password authentication using NIS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is there any NIS client for the MAC? Bye, Yannai. -- Yannai A. Gonczarowski System Administrator yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il The Hebrew University High School http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/~yannaigo/ "Do you want to know something? Everybody's human." "I find that remark insulting." - Kirk and Spock, "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered contry", stardate 9529.1 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 06:26:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id GAA23980; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 06:26:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA23976; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 06:26:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA22591; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 06:25:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA22589; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 06:25:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id GAA22585; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 06:25:55 -0400 (EDT) From: cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09894; Fri, 11 Jul 97 11:26:26 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 11:26:23 +0100 Received: from luigi (luigi.tees) by scorch; Fri, 11 Jul 97 11:28:02 BST Date: Fri, 11 Jul 97 11:28:58 BST Message-Id: <453.9707111028@luigi> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Password authentication using NIS Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > Is there any NIS client for the MAC? Yup, it's called MacLogin: http://users.ccnet.com/~kiberkli/maclogin/about-maclogin.html I'm using it to force students to authenticate against the Unix system at boot time, works via appleshare, ftp/pop or password on the local machine/ server. later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 06:44:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id GAA24534; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 06:44:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA24529; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 06:44:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA24084; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 06:44:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA24081; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 06:44:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netguide.netguide.dk by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA24072; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 06:44:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [130.227.158.132] (pope.netguide.dk [130.227.158.132]) by netguide.netguide.dk (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA14981 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:44:43 +0200 X-Sender: pedersen@mail.netguide.dk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <33C6039E.2781E494@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:45:03 +0200 To: Netatalk Admins Mailing List From: "Povl H. Pedersen" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Glitches with system 8 and 1.4b2 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have been playing a bit with the System 8 Golden Master, and it has some annoying behaviour when I have connected to a NetAtalk volume. About every 10 seconds or so it thinks something has changed, and it redraws the window. So if I scroll in a window, after around 10 secs, I am back to the top left. If I want an always-sorted-by-name view, then many files often appears twice, disappears, reappears single, double etc. I am NOT using the TCP patches. Also, mounted network volumes takes longer to appear on Desktop. But that also goes for NT volumes. The volumes mounted from the NT server does not show this behaviour, and there is MUCH LESS flashing of the atalk activity arrows in the menu bar. I am not sure what is going wrong, but it is worth to investigate. I would not recommend wide use of system 8 with 1.4b2. --- Povl H. Pedersen NetGuide Scandinavia AB Phone: +45 8618 1823 Cellular: +45 4093 5511 Fax: +45 8612 4680 Homepage: http://www.netguide.dk/~pope / e-mail: mailto:pope@netguide.dk Macintosh/UNIX/Windows specialist. Microsoft Certified Professional From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 07:01:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id HAA25176; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 07:01:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA25172; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 07:01:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA23949; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 07:01:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA23946; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 07:01:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from truffaut.webservices.net by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA23942; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 07:01:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.72.236.79] (jamie.webmedia.co.uk [194.72.236.79]) by truffaut.webservices.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA30563 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 11:03:02 GMT X-Sender: jamie@mail.webmedia.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <33C6039E.2781E494@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 11:57:59 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Jamie Unwin Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Glitches with system 8 and 1.4b2 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm having similar troubles, the problem is OS8 is alot more stable for everything else which is very annoying. I am also having problems moving the icons on a Netatalk volume, they seem to want to stay in the same position. >I have been playing a bit with the System 8 Golden Master, and it has some >annoying behaviour when I have connected to a NetAtalk volume. > >About every 10 seconds or so it thinks something has changed, and it >redraws the window. So if I scroll in a window, after around 10 secs, I am >back to the top left. If I want an always-sorted-by-name view, then many >files often appears twice, disappears, reappears single, double etc. > >I am NOT using the TCP patches. > >Also, mounted network volumes takes longer to appear on Desktop. But that >also goes for NT volumes. > >The volumes mounted from the NT server does not show this behaviour, and >there is MUCH LESS flashing of the atalk activity arrows in the menu bar. > >I am not sure what is going wrong, but it is worth to investigate. > >I would not recommend wide use of system 8 with 1.4b2. > >--- >Povl H. Pedersen NetGuide Scandinavia AB >Phone: +45 8618 1823 Cellular: +45 4093 5511 Fax: +45 8612 4680 >Homepage: http://www.netguide.dk/~pope / e-mail: mailto:pope@netguide.dk >Macintosh/UNIX/Windows specialist. Microsoft Certified Professional _______________________________________________ - Jamie Unwin Webmedia Ltd, 2 Kendall Place - Web Developer London, W1H 3AH _______________________________________________ - [e] jamie@webmedia.com [t] (0171) 224 7244 - [w] http://www.webmedia.com [f] (0171) 224 7049 _______________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 08:23:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id IAA26553; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:23:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA26549; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:23:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA05996; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:23:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA05989; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:23:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id IAA05979; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:23:36 -0400 (EDT) From: cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10672; Fri, 11 Jul 97 13:23:31 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:23:28 +0100 Received: from luigi (luigi.tees) by scorch; Fri, 11 Jul 97 13:25:08 BST Date: Fri, 11 Jul 97 13:26:04 BST Message-Id: <506.9707111226@luigi> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a11 bug? Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folks, I've just installed netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a11 and I seem to have discovered a few "undocumented features" namely: Using the rc.atalk file from the original install, (one that launches afpd twice) when I reboot the machine it lauches the first afpd server, then proceeds to tell me that "afpd is allready running" when it tries to launch the second one using the -n switch. >if [ -f /usr/local/atalk/etc/afpd ]; then > /usr/local/atalk/etc/afpd; echo -n ' afpd' > /usr/local/atalk/etc/afpd -n appleserver; echo -n ' appleserver' >fi I've rebooted twice, same each time... I am now unable to rlogin to the NIS master from the machine which runs netatalk, even though I can still telnet to it, and can rlogin to the NIS master provided I rlogin to another machine first. [1:18pm] luigi uname -a SunOS luigi 4.1.4 2 sun4c SPARCstation 1+ later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 08:31:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id IAA27244; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:31:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA27236; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA08053; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA08051; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id IAA08047; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:31:41 -0400 (EDT) From: cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10735; Fri, 11 Jul 97 13:31:38 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:31:34 +0100 Received: from luigi (luigi.tees) by scorch; Fri, 11 Jul 97 13:33:13 BST Date: Fri, 11 Jul 97 13:34:09 BST Message-Id: <517.9707111234@luigi> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: my last message Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, The NIS rlogin problem I reported seems to have cleared itself up, the problem I was having was that I could not launch an xterm with the -e switch to cause it to rlogin to the NIS master when it opened, just tried this again and it works properly, (I'd started to type the message before I went to lunch, completed it when I got back without further testing...) sorry later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 09:08:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA29479; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 09:08:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA29471; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 09:08:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA19184; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 09:08:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA19168; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 09:08:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id JAA19090; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 09:08:20 -0400 (EDT) From: cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11046; Fri, 11 Jul 97 14:08:19 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:08:16 +0100 Received: from luigi (luigi.tees) by scorch; Fri, 11 Jul 97 14:09:55 BST Date: Fri, 11 Jul 97 14:10:52 BST Message-Id: <453.9707111310@luigi> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a11 bug? Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folks, Just re-installed the original netatalk-1.4b2 and it works fine, both afpd's launch at startup, and are immediatley visible in the Mac's chooser window. Shame really. later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 10:03:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA02721; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:03:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA02715; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:03:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA07589; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:02:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA07587; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:02:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dont.panix.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA07576; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:02:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by dont.panix.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/PanixLC1.1) with UUCP id JAA25135 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 09:30:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707111330.JAA25135@dont.panix.com> Received: by duck.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 09:16:44 -0500 From: Neil Radisch Reply-To: nradisch@duck.com Organization: Duck Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] crash (sort of) on disconnect in 1.4b2 solaris Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The only safe way I can disconnect the mac is to dragged the shared volume into the trash. If the mac should crash, or if I just shut it down, there seems to be about a 50% chance that the solaris apple talk server will no longer be responsive. Is there a solution to this problem? -- Neil Radisch Network Products Vice President - Engineering The Duck Corporation From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 10:04:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA02797; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:04:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA02788; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:04:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA08184; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:04:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA08180; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:04:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scarlet.dis.strath.ac.uk by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA08169; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:04:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mull.dis.strath.ac.uk (mull.dis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.120.1]) by scarlet.dis.strath.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/2.0A) with ESMTP id PAA16349; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:01:27 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mull.dis.strath.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/2.0S) with SMTP id PAA02959; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:04:36 +0100 (BST) To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a11 bug? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:26:04 +0100." Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:04:35 +0100 Message-ID: <2957.868629875@dis.strath.ac.uk> From: Duncan Sinclair Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk writes: >Hi folks, >I've just installed netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a11 and I seem to have discovered >a few "undocumented features" namely: > > [[ Can't run two copies of "asun" netatalk. ]] This will be because there will only be one "well-known" port, and you can't have two servers listening to the same port. The port is "well-known" in that the client has to know that that's where the server is listening. So, for example, 25 is the "well-known" port number of the SMTP mail protocol. (sorry if this is too noddy for you.) AppleTalk gets round this by not having "well-known" ports, but instead puts the port number in the NBP record. There are two solutions: 1) Acquire a second IP number (by way of a virtual interface) and persuade the two afpd to run on different interfaces. 2) Hack afpd to allow multiple virtual servers from the one afpd. (Sort-of like a papd.conf file for afpd.) The second is the correct solution. Duncan Sinclair. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 10:08:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA03202; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:08:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA03191; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:08:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA09299; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:08:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA09287; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:08:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scarlet.dis.strath.ac.uk by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA09255; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:08:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mull.dis.strath.ac.uk (mull.dis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.120.1]) by scarlet.dis.strath.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/2.0A) with ESMTP id PAA16389; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:04:43 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mull.dis.strath.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/2.0S) with SMTP id PAA02971; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:07:53 +0100 (BST) To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Rouge file? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:48:11 +0100." Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:07:52 +0100 Message-ID: <2969.868630072@dis.strath.ac.uk> From: Duncan Sinclair Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk writes: >People, >I'm just installing netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a11, and thought I'd better just >compare this with the standard netatalk-1.4b2 install, (more paranoia than >anything else) a I've found a file included in the /etc directory in the >standard install that's not present in the asun2.0a11 install.... > >standard netatalk-1.4b2: >[10:19am] luigi la atalk/etc/n* >-rwx------ 1 xxxxx 173721 Jul 9 10:01 netatalk >-rwx------ 1 xxxxx 28312 May 15 18:15 netatalk.o > >netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a11: >luigi% la atalk/etc/n* >-rwx------ 1 xxxxx 27102 Jul 11 09:56 netatalk.o Now knowing that you're on a SunOS 4.1.4 machine, I can tell you that this is a side-effect of the "modload" command. Check the "modload" man-page, and note that the "netatalk" file has the same day as your last boot-time. Cheers, Duncan Sinclair. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 10:11:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA03590; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:11:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA03556; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:11:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA10286; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:10:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA10283; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:10:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from motgate.mot.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA10275; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:10:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pobox.mot.com (pobox.mot.com [129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com (8.8.5/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id JAA24240; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 09:10:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ilbx.mot.com (ilbx.mot.com [129.188.137.185]) by pobox.mot.com (8.8.5/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with SMTP id JAA02066; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 09:10:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: by ilbx.mot.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19555; Fri, 11 Jul 97 09:10:49 -0500 Received: from MOT; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 9:08:00 -0500 Received: from ilbh.mot.com; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 9:07:39 -0500 Received: from il02dns1.comm.mo; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 9:07:37 -0500 Received: from nsbs702.comm.mot; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 9:07:35 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 9:07:35 -0500 From: Eric Dubiel-CED016 Subject: Re:[netatalk-admins] Password Authentication-NIS To: "John.Barry@tees.ac.uk%INTERNET" Cc: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu%INTERNET" , Art Nuzzo-CINT116 Message-Id: <33C63E40.55E529C9@email.mot.com> References: <453.9707111028@luigi> X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1)/STREAM Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk%INTERNET wrote: > > > Is there any NIS client for the MAC? > > Yup, it's called MacLogin: > http://users.ccnet.com/~kiberkli/maclogin/about-maclogin.html > > I'm using it to force students to authenticate against the Unix system > > at boot time, works via appleshare, ftp/pop or password on the local > machine/ > server. I have to investigate this further, however, this software doesn't seem to actually NIS authenticate. We're testing, with great success - NISGINA - a Windows NT NIS authentication login prompt which alleviates the need to buy Windows NoT Server! ;) See http://www.dcs.qmw.ac.uk/~williams/ Now, too bad Mac OS doesn't have this functionality to "create user accounts" as does NT. Perhaps Xedoc could release a Mac OS version of the NIS compatible NetInfo which is part of Rhapsody and OPENSTEP/MACH. Anyone know of a complete solution which could lock a hard drive - even if it's removed from the machine, and use the *same* account & password to login on Mac OS as we do via NIS on UNIX, and now also NT? Any help would be MUCH appreciated. We'd like to have a standard (universal) way to login on Mac, NT and UNIX but also be able to restrict certain users with NIS UNIX accounts from particular machines. Once this goal is accomplished we wish to mount a standard home directory on a UNIX box, where users will universally store files regardless of the computer platform... Thx. Eric -- Eric A. Dubiel Motorola, Inc.,FPDC Computer Support Group http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:ced016@email.mot.com "I first saw NEXTSTEP in 1990 and I was blown away." -Eric Schmidt, Novell, Inc. CEO VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN MIME,HTML,PGP Mail ok From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 10:48:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA05537; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:48:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with SMTP id KAA05532; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:47:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Canada.Sun.COM ([129.155.5.101]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id IAA26029; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:14:28 -0700 Received: from scooter.canada.sun.com by Canada.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) id KAA12221; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:47:21 -0400 Received: from loon.canada.sun.com by scooter.canada.sun.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA04285; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:47:20 -0400 Received: from loon by loon.canada.sun.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA00953; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:47:16 -0400 Message-Id: <199707111447.KAA00953@loon.canada.sun.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:47:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Phillips Reply-To: Chris Phillips Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Rouge file? To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk, cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk, netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: cbFvAiUen4lUylI6CTEiDQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.0 CDE Version 1.2_34 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > standard netatalk-1.4b2: > [10:19am] luigi la atalk/etc/n* > -rwx------ 1 xxxxx 173721 Jul 9 10:01 netatalk Loaded image of the .o (Date is when it was loaded). > -rwx------ 1 xxxxx 28312 May 15 18:15 netatalk.o Chris -- Sun Canada - OpCom SOS Java Virtual Machine support Chris Phillips | mailto:Chris@Loon.Canada.Sun.Com (905)477-0437x331 | | http://loon.canada.sun.com:8888/chris/index.html | | mailto:ChrisPhillips@FollowMe.Com (416)733-3841 | | http://www.FollowMe.Com/ChrisP FAX(416)733-3861 | -- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 12:36:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA09062; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:36:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA09058; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:36:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA28045; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:36:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA28040; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:36:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gomer.wiscnet.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id MAA28032; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:36:02 -0400 (EDT) From: mt@carthage.edu Received: from grace.carthage.edu ([198.150.93.69]) by gomer.wiscnet.net (8.6.9W/) with SMTP id LAA106404 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 11:36:36 -0500 Received: by grace.carthage.edu; Fri, 11 Jul 97 12:04:11 CDT Date: Fri, 11 Jul 97 11:49:02 CDT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: [netatalk-admins] token-ring Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Dear Netatalk-admins! I need your help. I have spent a number of days trying to get the netatalk afp server working on my linux 2.0.30 box connected to a token-ring network, wothout any luck. I have appletalk compiled into the kernel; the network adapter works fine (I use it with TCP/IP all the time). Unfortunately, I don't know whether linux's kernel appletalk works with token-ring, or whether maybe that part is okay and the problem is with my afp setup. Here are the symptoms: - 'afp' runs without complaint, but only for a few seconds. - 'getzones' gives "Unknown service." (I have appletalk configured as a loadable module, and lsmod shows that it is loaded.) Does anyone know whether linux's kernel appletalk is even supposed to work? Is anyone else successfully using it? Thanks to all. -- Mark Mark Tomory Carthage College From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 13:12:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA10206; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:12:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA10201; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:12:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA15175; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:12:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA15164; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:12:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA15147; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:12:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06250; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:03:04 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA17057; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707111701.KAA17057@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: sinclair@dis.strath.ac.uk CC: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <2957.868629875@dis.strath.ac.uk> (message from Duncan Sinclair on Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:04:35 +0100) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a11 bug? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk writes: >Hi folks, >I've just installed netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a11 and I seem to have discovered >a few "undocumented features" namely: > > [[ Can't run two copies of "asun" netatalk. ]] This will be because there will only be one "well-known" port, and you can't have two servers listening to the same port. i have a question here. how important is it to be able to run multiple copies of afpd on the same machine? you can "export" multiple volumes w/ just one running copy of afpd and none of the hassle. 1) Acquire a second IP number (by way of a virtual interface) and persuade the two afpd to run on different interfaces. 2) Hack afpd to allow multiple virtual servers from the one afpd. (Sort-of like a papd.conf file for afpd.) The second is the correct solution. fyi, you can currently run a second copy of afpd if you choose another name, don't mind it not running afp/tcp, and specify a different lock file (this is the big change from 1.4b2). needless to say, unless you specify different AppleVolumes.*, it's not going to be much use besides providing yet another nbp entry for the same service. i can stick in yet another option which allows you to specify an alternative port. the nbp entry will automatically redirect people to that port. i guess that's actually a 3rd option and simple enough to do. can people live w/ having to something like the following? afpd afpd -P /var/lock/server2.lock -f server2.default -s \ server2.system -n server2 -S -a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 13:32:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA10900; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA10891; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA21693; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA21690; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from prozac.eeap.cwru.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA21683; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:31:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from wes@localhost) by prozac.eeap.cwru.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) id NAA04975 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:31:55 -0400 From: Wes Brown Message-Id: <199707111731.NAA04975@prozac.eeap.cwru.edu> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a11 bug? To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:31:54 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <199707111701.KAA17057@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> from "a sun" at Jul 11, 97 10:01:16 am X-URL: http://prozac.student.cwru.edu/wes/About.me.html X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > i have a question here. how important is it to be able to run multiple > copies of afpd on the same machine? you can "export" multiple volumes > w/ just one running copy of afpd and none of the hassle. > > 1) Acquire a second IP number (by way of a virtual interface) and > persuade the two afpd to run on different interfaces. > 2) Hack afpd to allow multiple virtual servers from the one afpd. > (Sort-of like a papd.conf file for afpd.) > > The second is the correct solution. > > fyi, you can currently run a second copy of afpd if you choose another > name, don't mind it not running afp/tcp, and specify a different lock > file (this is the big change from 1.4b2). needless to say, unless you > specify different AppleVolumes.*, it's not going to be much use > besides providing yet another nbp entry for the same service. The problem that I see is that there is a limitation in the AppleTalk protocol that only lets a small number of machines connect to the server. (small number being 64 or 128, but I do not remember exactly) This is significant in an enviroment where your number of users is 2 or 3 orders of magnitude greater than this limit in AppleTalk. Novell gets around this someway with their AppleTalk stuff for Novell 4.x. when they have a user licence that exceeds the limit in the protocol. I have not had the time to explore exactly how they do it. > i can stick in yet another option which allows you to specify an > alternative port. the nbp entry will automatically redirect people to > that port. i guess that's actually a 3rd option and simple enough to > do. can people live w/ having to something like the following? > > afpd > afpd -P /var/lock/server2.lock -f server2.default -s \ > server2.system -n server2 -S > > -a Wes --- Wes Brown ewb4@po.cwru.edu wes@prozac.cwru.edu http://prozac.cwru.edu/wes/About.me.html KB8TGR From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 13:49:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA11489; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:49:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA11485; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:49:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA27879; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:49:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA27876; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:49:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scarlet.dis.strath.ac.uk by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA27859; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:49:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mull.dis.strath.ac.uk (mull.dis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.120.1]) by scarlet.dis.strath.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/2.0A) with ESMTP id SAA17886 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:45:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mull.dis.strath.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/2.0S) with SMTP id SAA03161 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:48:58 +0100 (BST) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Clarification on multiple AFP/TCP servers. Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:48:57 +0100 Message-ID: <3159.868643337@dis.strath.ac.uk> From: Duncan Sinclair Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, Based on "a sun"'s comments (sorry, I don't know your actual name), it seems you can't run two afpd servers on the same machine without one having to be given a non-standard port. When you have AppleTalk access to the server this is not a problem, as the Chooser details (NBP stuff) will point to the correct port. But in the case of running a second server which you want access to over an IP-only network, I guess, too bad. Solutions would involve things like virtual interfaces - giving multiple IP (and DDP?) addresses or different internet names for the server which it can tell apart - but only if the protocol supports it. I, myself, like the idea of being able to run multiple servers on the one machine, as it allows me to separate logically different services. It also makes it very much easier to move servers between machines without confusing people. So, for example, a research project with its own disk will get its own server, and if I later move the disk, the users never need know. The option is being able to specify an alternative port as a flag to afpd sounds good, especially if the actual port number was an option - rather than hardwiring these numbers into start-up files. In fact, what I would really prefer would be if afpd could create multiple servers based on a configuration file. This configuration file would specify the "master" server with the constant port number, and have slots where afpd might write in the current port number chosen for other servers. A bit like the atalkd.conf and papd.conf files. A related aside, does anyone know the truth behind the claim on "www.macintouch.com" today (11th) that the AppleShare Client 3.7 can only talk to one IP server per subnet? (Which would make this entire discussion pointless.) Cheers, Duncan. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 14:04:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA12216; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:04:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA12211; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:04:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA03930; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:04:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA03921; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:04:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from venus.open.ac.uk by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA03903; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:04:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from damson.open.ac.uk by venus with SMTP Local (MMTA v2.1); Fri, 11 Jul 1997 19:04:19 +0100 Received: from grass.open.ac.uk by damson.open.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20552; Fri, 11 Jul 97 19:04:08 BST Message-Id: <9707111804.AA20552@damson.open.ac.uk> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Ian Cameron Organization: The Open University To: mt@carthage.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 19:04:06 +0000 Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] token-ring In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > - 'getzones' gives "Unknown service." Do you have the correct entries in /etc/services ? rtmp 1/ddp # Routing Table Maintenance Protocol nbp 2/ddp # Name Binding Protocol echo 4/ddp # AppleTalk Echo Protocol zip 6/ddp # Zone Information Protocol I found when trying to run netatalk on a RedHat Intel box using a binary RPM that /etc/services did not contain the correct entries and the RPM did not update them either, which resulted in an "Unknown service." error from getzones. Hope this helps some. Cheers, Ian. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 14:10:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA12589; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:10:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA12579; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:10:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA27517; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:10:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA27506; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id OAA27432; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:10:00 -0400 (EDT) From: cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12756; Fri, 11 Jul 97 19:10:26 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 19:10:22 +0100 Received: from luigi (luigi.tees) by scorch; Fri, 11 Jul 97 19:12:02 BST Date: Fri, 11 Jul 97 19:12:59 BST Message-Id: <502.9707111812@luigi> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Clarification on multiple AFP/TCP servers. Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > A related aside, does anyone know the truth behind the claim on > "www.macintouch.com" today (11th) that the AppleShare Client 3.7 > can only talk to one IP server per subnet? (Which would make this > entire discussion pointless.) I bloody hope not, I'm running with 3.6.1 at the moment, though I do have a copy of 3.7 (nice icon :) later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 14:30:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA13466; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:30:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA13458; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA12582; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:30:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA12572; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:30:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ftpbox.mot.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA12564; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:30:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pobox.mot.com (pobox.mot.com [129.188.137.100]) by ftpbox.mot.com (8.8.5/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id NAA06287 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:30:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ilbx.mot.com (ilbx.mot.com [129.188.137.185]) by pobox.mot.com (8.8.5/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with SMTP id NAA08006 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:30:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: by ilbx.mot.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10333; Fri, 11 Jul 97 13:30:10 -0500 Received: from MOT; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:29:31 -0500 Received: from ilbh.mot.com; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:29:07 -0500 Received: from il02dns1.comm.mo; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:29:08 -0500 Received: from nsbs702.comm.mot; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:29:05 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:29:05 -0500 From: Eric Dubiel-CED016 Subject: [netatalk-admins] Personal File Sharing IP? To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu%INTERNET" Message-Id: <33C67B8B.720683AA@email.mot.com> References: <3159.868643337@dis.strath.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.1)/STREAM Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Does anyone know if you use Apple's Personal File Sharing with the AppleShare 3.7 code if it can do IP, or is this *only* if you have a server? (If true, that's *REALLY* dumb) Somehow, I'd think it'd go IP, and Apple doesn't want the cat out of the bag, since then less people would buy the AppleShare IP Server products... Anyone have a definitive answer, perhaps from some documentation? If this functionality does not exist in personal file sharing, does anyone know what the timeframe is for inclusion? Thanks much. -Eric -- Eric A. Dubiel Motorola, Inc.,FPDC Computer Support Group http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:ced016@email.mot.com "I first saw NEXTSTEP in 1990 and I was blown away." -Eric Schmidt, Novell, Inc. CEO VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN MIME,HTML,PGP Mail ok From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 14:45:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA14261; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:45:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA14251; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:45:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA08775; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:44:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA08771; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:44:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-out2.apple.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA08763; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:44:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [17.221.34.232] (A17-221-34-232.apple.com [17.221.34.232]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA12836 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 11:42:52 -0700 Message-Id: <199707111842.LAA12836@mail-out2.apple.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Fwd: Re: FWD>AppleShare IP 5.0 Bug Report Date: Fri, 11 Jul 97 11:45:03 -0700 x-sender: zarzycki@pop.ricochet.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Dave Zarzycki To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is from the appleshareip mailing list. I personally suspect that the bug report was caused by a pilot error on the users part. davez ---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ---------------- Date: 07/11 11:09 AM Received: 07/11 11:15 AM From: Leland Wallace, randall@apple.com Reply-To: appleshareip@private.lists.apple.com To: Multiple recipients of list, appleshareip@private.lists.apple.com > Apparently, you cannot connect via IP to two > Appleshare IP servers on the same subnet at the > same time. > > This can easily be verified by setting up two > servers, connecting to server 1 via IP, and then > trying to connect to server 2 via IP. You will get > an alert that you are already logged into the > server...at this point, Appleshare gets very > confused. > > Only workaround is to either dismount the first > server, or to connect to the 2nd server via > traditional Appletalk. > We have not seen that in our lab, I connect to servers in the same subnet every day. The only address filtering we do is to avoid trying to connect to broadcast addresses. We check to see if the server is already mounted by comparing server signatures, if no signature is present we will check the server addresses, and server names. The server signature is derived from the serial number, so if the person is having problems mounting two servers on the same subnet they should make sure that both servers have their own serial numbers. Leland Wallace AppleShare IP team ----------------- End Forwarded Message ----------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Zarzycki Student Workgroup Server QA Tester San Jose State University Apple Computer, Inc. zarzycki@ricochet.net zarzycki@apple.com dave@zarzycki.ml.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP Fingerprints: DSS/Diffie-Hellman: CB9E 2621 B4BA 3F96 3516 B312 15B4 D842 3809 EF99 RSA: 8AF2 1040 8A9C D025 47BE 70DD A51C C887 Contact pgpkeys.mit.edu for my public keys. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 15:02:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA15367; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:02:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA15362; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:02:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA14411; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:01:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA14405; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:01:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA14375; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:01:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from schubert.promo.de by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA14905; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA21989; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 20:52:58 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3159.868643337@dis.strath.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 20:56:52 +0200 To: Duncan Sinclair , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Stefan Bethke Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 3.7 supports only one TCP conn.? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 19:48 Uhr +0200 11.07.1997, Duncan Sinclair wrote: >A related aside, does anyone know the truth behind the claim on >"www.macintouch.com" today (11th) that the AppleShare Client 3.7 >can only talk to one IP server per subnet? (Which would make this >entire discussion pointless.) Nope. Currently I'm logged into four servers; two on the local net (AT+IP), one on another subnet (AT+IP), and one on the Internet. None of them is netatalk yet :-( It *might* be true however, that "AppleShare 3.7 client cannot connect to more than one *AppleShare IP 5.0* server on the same TCP/IP subnet." [emphasis by me, quote from http://www.macintouch.com/ ]. Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-0 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 15:30:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA16587; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:30:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA16580; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:30:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA03493; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:30:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA03480; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:30:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-out1.apple.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA03468; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 15:30:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [17.221.34.232] (A17-221-34-232.apple.com [17.221.34.232]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA07602 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:27:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199707111927.MAA07602@mail-out1.apple.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Personal File Sharing IP? Date: Fri, 11 Jul 97 12:30:14 -0700 x-sender: zarzycki@pop.ricochet.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Dave Zarzycki To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On 7/11/97 11:29 AM, Eric Dubiel-CED016 (Eric_Dubiel-CED016@email.mot.com) wrote: >Does anyone know if you use Apple's Personal File Sharing with the >AppleShare 3.7 code if it can do IP, or is this *only* if you have a >server? (If true, that's *REALLY* dumb) If you install the AppleShare Workstation client 3.7, it only changes the software that deals with communication to a server. The software that allows for personal file sharing is a separate piece of software. The client is not some magical piece of software that transforms the personal file sharing (server) code. If we translate your question into the web arena, we get this: If I install Netscape Navigator version X, and it supports HTTP/1.1, does that mean my old Netscape Web Server that supports HTTP/1.0 will support the new HTTP/1.1 features? No, the client and the server BOTH need to be upgraded to support this. >Somehow, I'd think it'd go IP, and Apple doesn't want the cat out of the >bag, since then less people would buy the AppleShare IP Server >products... Anyone have a definitive answer, perhaps from some >documentation? If this functionality does not exist in personal file >sharing, does anyone know what the timeframe is for inclusion? Personal File Sharing is not optimized for prime time, even if it did support afp over tcp. It has a hard limit of 10 connected users and the performance isn't that great. About the documentation, well, trust, me, I tested ASIP. About the timeframe, I don't know, and if I did, I couldn't say. davez ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Zarzycki Student Workgroup Server QA Tester San Jose State University Apple Computer, Inc. zarzycki@ricochet.net zarzycki@apple.com dave@zarzycki.ml.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP Fingerprints: DSS/Diffie-Hellman: CB9E 2621 B4BA 3F96 3516 B312 15B4 D842 3809 EF99 RSA: 8AF2 1040 8A9C D025 47BE 70DD A51C C887 Contact pgpkeys.mit.edu for my public keys. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 16:51:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id QAA19000; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 16:51:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA18994; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 16:51:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA20032; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 16:50:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA20016; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 16:50:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA19997; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 16:50:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA07846; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:42:15 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA17590; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707112040.NAA17590@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: marcb@bms.itg.telstra.com.au CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199707110013.KAA09468@troy.bms.itg.telecom.com.au> (marcb@bms.itg.telstra.com.au) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Capacity issues... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Has anyone determined just how many connections a netatalked host can handle (assume only file shares). ? theoretically, it's probably limited by the max number of processes that you can have running on your machine and the amount of memory you have. if you're running under appletalk, however, i think you might be restricted by the number of ports a ddp address can have (i think it's 254 or something like that). i'm not sure if running multiple copies of afpd w/ appropriate flags will circumvent that or not. anyways, i think i'll look into seeing how difficult it will be to enable the use of an afpd.conf for configuration of multiple servers. it probably won't be too bad except for the fact that a bunch of the stuff in afpd assumes that only one value exists for various configuration options. -adrian From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 11 17:08:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id RAA19662; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 17:08:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA19658; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 17:07:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA08957; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 17:07:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA08950; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 17:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from schubert.promo.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA08927; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 17:07:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA22321; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 23:02:49 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199707112040.NAA17590@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> References: <199707110013.KAA09468@troy.bms.itg.telecom.com.au> (marcb@bms.itg.telstra.com.au) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 23:06:44 +0200 To: a sun , marcb@bms.itg.telstra.com.au From: Stefan Bethke Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Capacity issues... Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 22:40 Uhr +0200 11.07.1997, a sun wrote: > Has anyone determined just how many connections a netatalked host can > handle (assume only file shares). ? > >theoretically, it's probably limited by the max number of processes >that you can have running on your machine and the amount of memory you >have. if you're running under appletalk, however, i think you might be >restricted by the number of ports a ddp address can have (i think it's >254 or something like that). i'm not sure if running multiple copies >of afpd w/ appropriate flags will circumvent that or not. 254: 0 and 255 are reserved. Additionally, the standard implementation is to have a Server Listening Socket (SLS) plus one Server Session Socket (SSS) for each session that is active. Minus the sockets atalkd uses, minus any papd's, ... -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-0 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jul 12 15:06:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA23520; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 15:06:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sozio.geist-soz.uni-karlsruhe.de by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with SMTP id PAA23516; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 15:06:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13634 invoked from network); 12 Jul 1997 19:06:35 -0000 Received: from isdn-uk49.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (HELO m2w.morio.taneda.de) (@129.13.225.28) by sozio.geist-soz.uni-karlsruhe.de with SMTP; 12 Jul 1997 19:06:35 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970712121557.412ffeb8@129.13.95.1> X-Sender: uk49@129.13.95.1 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 12:15:57 To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu From: Morio Taneda Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a11 bug? In-Reply-To: <199707111701.KAA17057@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> References: <2957.868629875@dis.strath.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >i have a question here. how important is it to be able to run multiple >copies of afpd on the same machine? you can "export" multiple volumes >w/ just one running copy of afpd and none of the hassle. Don't forget, you currently can't log on to different volumes on a single afpd as different users. That's why i am running two afpds (non-TCP). Morio Taneda eb04@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 13 01:34:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id BAA10627; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 01:34:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id BAA10587; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 01:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA10209; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 01:34:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA10207; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 01:34:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turtle.mcc.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id BAA10203; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 01:34:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laptev.mcc.com (laptev.mcc.com [128.62.30.85]) by turtle.mcc.com (8.6.10/mcc.8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA14599; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 00:34:36 -0500 Received: from localhost by laptev.mcc.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id AAA19105; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 00:34:35 -0500 Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 00:34:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Kamal Kantawala Reply-To: Kamal Kantawala To: samba@anu.edu.au, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Dear Samba, Netatalk Administrators, I have the following question: Is it possible to do the following? On a Sun Sparcstation running Solaris 2.5, I want to able to share a single file system volume via NFS, Samba, and Netatalk. Also, I would like to know if there are problems with file locking in the above scenario , i.e. is it possible to stop more than one person from accessing the same file at the same time? I would be running Solaris 2.5 on the NFS clients, Win 95/NT on the Samba clients, and MacOS 7.5.x on the Netatalk clients. Most of the files would be Documents, mostly Microsoft Word, Powerpoint, Exel etc. The NFS client usage is not an immediate need. If anybody has experience with a similar configuration, your experiences and feedback would be very helpful. Thanks. Kamal Kantawala System Administrator, MCC, Austin, TX. From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 13 07:02:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id HAA08202; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 07:02:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA08198; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 07:02:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA06947; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 07:01:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA06945; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 07:01:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chava.netmedia.net.il by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA06941; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 07:01:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leyada.jlm.k12.il ([192.115.119.3]) by chava.netmedia.net.il (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22058; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 14:03:06 +0200 (IST) Received: from MIN4100/MAIL_Q by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 13 Jul 97 14:02:40 +0200 Received: from MAIL_Q by MIN4100 (Mercury 1.21); 13 Jul 97 14:01:44 +0200 Received: from tycoon by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 13 Jul 97 14:01:33 +0200 Message-ID: <33C8B539.446B9B3D@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 14:00:09 +0300 From: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" Organization: Hebrew University High School X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kamal Kantawala CC: Netatalk Admins Mailing List Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Kamal Kantawala wrote: > > Dear Samba, Netatalk Administrators, > > I have the following question: > > Is it possible to do the following? > > On a Sun Sparcstation running Solaris 2.5, I want to able to share a single > file system volume via NFS, Samba, and Netatalk. Also, I would like to know > if there are problems with file locking in the above scenario , i.e. is it > possible to stop more than one person from accessing the same file at the > same time? I would be running Solaris 2.5 on the NFS clients, Win 95/NT on > the Samba clients, and MacOS 7.5.x on the Netatalk clients. Most of the files > would be Documents, mostly Microsoft Word, Powerpoint, Exel etc. The NFS client > usage is not an immediate need. > > If anybody has experience with a similar configuration, your experiences > and feedback would be very helpful. > I'm doing about the same thing: SunOS 4.1.4, NFS, SMB, netatalk. However, I don't know about file locking. I never really had this problem. Where one can write, the others either have read-only, or don't access the same files. Bye, Yannai. -- Yannai A. Gonczarowski System Administrator yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il The Hebrew University High School http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/~yannaigo/ "Do you want to know something? Everybody's human." "I find that remark insulting." - Kirk and Spock, "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered contry", stardate 9529.1 From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 13 10:19:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA12082; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 10:19:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA12044; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 10:19:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA11638; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 10:19:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA11636; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 10:19:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from goon.stg.brown.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA11632; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 10:19:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from richard@localhost) by goon.stg.brown.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA25757 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 10:19:27 -0400 From: "Richard L. Goerwitz III" Message-Id: <199707131419.KAA25757@goon.stg.brown.edu> Subject: [netatalk-admins] NFS + Netatalk To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 10:19:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Face: #,bgOf7[Z5["^1[?.)k?^vYpV4**Cxrg2'At1vp{+k$#Q-}p?y`'4x8*SscV,hjGeIU&0+& e}eRQL/rR'|@y|r[l2?Z#KJ$h-u$vgK6j X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Last year I tested out Xinet products, as well as Netatalk. Xinet had its problems (it would periodically stop working for no apparent reason). Netatalk ended up better in most respects. One thing we encountered, though, was a problem with periodic crashes: 1) machine: SuperSparc w/ Solaris 2.5.1 2) Netatalk 1.4 last fall's beta release (1.4.2?) 3) filesystems: mixed local and NFS-mounted The machine would lock up about once a week and have to be rebooted. We tried applying the patch that tested for EINTR under Solaris for a few system calls. But the crashes still occurred. Eventually we abandoned Netatalk - although we thought it looked like a generally great product. Can anyone shed light on what was going on? Richard Goerwitz Brown University From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 13 10:48:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA12730; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 10:48:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA12726; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 10:48:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA20912; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 10:48:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA20910; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 10:48:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from email.cybergrafx.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA20906; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 10:48:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from arthur.rothwell.holly-springs.nc.us (rtp-nc5-19.ix.netcom.com [199.35.214.179]) by email.cybergrafx.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA21754; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 10:48:04 -0400 Message-Id: <199707131448.KAA21754@email.cybergrafx.com> From: "Michael Rothwell" To: "Kamal Kantawala" , , Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 10:37:56 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm running Samba and Netatalk (and one nfs share) on a Linux 2.0.29 machine, andt works great for me.I've never had a file-locking problem -- just lucky, I guess. I imagine running Samba+Netatalk is very common. I, and others, I'm sure, would like to see some sort of integration between Samba and Netatalk. For instance, Netatalk creates .AppleDouble and .AppleDesktop directories which are visible from windows machines. If my users copy files or folders out of one directory to another via windows, it can wreck the .AppleXXXXX information. Sometimes they just delete the .AppleDouble directory -- one shows up on their Win95 desktops (which are stored on the network), for instance, and they all delete it at their earliest convenience. It would be nice if Samba could "know" about Netatalk directories and hide them, while handling them appropriately. Like NT -- the resource forks are never visible on NT, but always function appropriately. Samba's macro features would be very useful on Netatalk. In fact, a unified Samba/Netatalk server that uses common configuration files would be extremely useful. Of course, use of common lockfiles would be a bonus, also. I wish I was better with C/C++ --- I could do more than just post my wish lists. ---------- > From: Kamal Kantawala > To: samba@anu.edu.au; netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Subject: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system > Date: Sunday, July 13, 1997 1:34 AM > > Dear Samba, Netatalk Administrators, > > I have the following question: > > Is it possible to do the following? > > On a Sun Sparcstation running Solaris 2.5, I want to able to share a single > file system volume via NFS, Samba, and Netatalk. Also, I would like to know > if there are problems with file locking in the above scenario , i.e. is it > possible to stop more than one person from accessing the same file at the > same time? I would be running Solaris 2.5 on the NFS clients, Win 95/NT on > the Samba clients, and MacOS 7.5.x on the Netatalk clients. Most of the files > would be Documents, mostly Microsoft Word, Powerpoint, Exel etc. The NFS client > usage is not an immediate need. > > If anybody has experience with a similar configuration, your experiences > and feedback would be very helpful. > > Thanks. > > Kamal Kantawala > System Administrator, > MCC, Austin, TX. > > From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 13 14:55:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA17630; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 14:55:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA17626; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 14:55:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA17286; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 14:54:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA17284; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 14:54:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beijing.itri.loyola.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA17279; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 14:54:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mstone@localhost) by beijing.itri.loyola.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA24378; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 14:54:55 -0400 Message-ID: <19970713145455.00488@beijing.itri.loyola.edu> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 14:54:55 -0400 From: Michael Stone To: Michael Rothwell Cc: Kamal Kantawala , samba@anu.edu.au, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system References: <199707131448.KAA21754@email.cybergrafx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: <199707131448.KAA21754@email.cybergrafx.com>; from Michael Rothwell on Sun, Jul 13, 1997 at 10:37:56AM -0400 X-Fingerprint: 53 FF 38 00 E7 DD 0A 9C 84 52 84 C5 EE DF 7C 88 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Quoting Michael Rothwell (rothwell@holly-springs.nc.us): > I imagine running Samba+Netatalk is very common. I, and others, I'm sure, > would like to see some sort of integration between Samba and Netatalk. For > instance, Netatalk creates .AppleDouble and .AppleDesktop directories which > are visible from windows machines. If my users copy files or folders out of > one directory to another via windows, it can wreck the .AppleXXXXX > information. Sometimes they just delete the .AppleDouble directory -- one > shows up on their Win95 desktops (which are stored on the network), for > instance, and they all delete it at their earliest convenience. It would be > nice if Samba could "know" about Netatalk directories and hide them, while > handling them appropriately. Like NT -- the resource forks are never > visible on NT, but always function appropriately. There is an (undocumented, AFAIK) config parameter in samba that will cause it to hide certain files: veto files = /.AppleDouble/.AppleDesktop/Network Trash Folder/.appledouble This is nice for your windows users, because it cuts down on the garbage in the directories. It would still be nice if netatalk would just allow you to turn these files off anyway. Think about it; even if the windows clients don't touch the appledouble stuff, they can still change/move/ delete the originals that the appledoubles refer to. In a mixed environment, I don't see any point to the appledoubles at all. -- Michael Stone, Sysadmin, ITRI mstone@itri.loyola.edu PGP: finger, or email with "Subject: get pgp key" From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 13 15:44:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA18602; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 15:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA18598; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 15:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA17748; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 15:44:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA17745; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 15:44:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from email.cybergrafx.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA17735; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 15:43:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (rothwell@localhost) by email.cybergrafx.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA22012; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 15:43:39 -0400 Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 15:43:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Rothwell To: Michael Stone cc: Michael Rothwell , Kamal Kantawala , samba@anu.edu.au, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system In-Reply-To: <19970713145455.00488@beijing.itri.loyola.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Well, the .AppleXXXX directories are neccessary, so that the Macs can 'know' about files on the server. They need the resource fork to identify the file type and creator. Does that Samba parameter just cause the "hidden" attribute to be set, or does it actually hide them? -M On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Michael Stone wrote: > Quoting Michael Rothwell (rothwell@holly-springs.nc.us): > > I imagine running Samba+Netatalk is very common. I, and others, I'm sure, > > would like to see some sort of integration between Samba and Netatalk. For > > instance, Netatalk creates .AppleDouble and .AppleDesktop directories which > > are visible from windows machines. If my users copy files or folders out of > > one directory to another via windows, it can wreck the .AppleXXXXX > > information. Sometimes they just delete the .AppleDouble directory -- one > > shows up on their Win95 desktops (which are stored on the network), for > > instance, and they all delete it at their earliest convenience. It would be > > nice if Samba could "know" about Netatalk directories and hide them, while > > handling them appropriately. Like NT -- the resource forks are never > > visible on NT, but always function appropriately. > > There is an (undocumented, AFAIK) config parameter in samba that will > cause it to hide certain files: > > veto files = /.AppleDouble/.AppleDesktop/Network Trash Folder/.appledouble > > This is nice for your windows users, because it cuts down on the garbage > in the directories. It would still be nice if netatalk would just allow > you to turn these files off anyway. Think about it; even if the windows > clients don't touch the appledouble stuff, they can still change/move/ > delete the originals that the appledoubles refer to. In a mixed environment, > I don't see any point to the appledoubles at all. > > -- > Michael Stone, Sysadmin, ITRI > mstone@itri.loyola.edu > PGP: finger, or email with "Subject: get pgp key" > From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 13 16:52:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id QAA19507; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 16:52:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA19503; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 16:52:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA29954; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 16:51:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA29952; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 16:51:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpo.whistle.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA29937; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 16:51:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA08300; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 13:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd008298; Sun Jul 13 20:21:12 1997 Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 13:18:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Michael Rothwell cc: Kamal Kantawala , samba@anu.edu.au, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system In-Reply-To: <199707131448.KAA21754@email.cybergrafx.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Michael Rothwell wrote: > > I imagine running Samba+Netatalk is very common. I, and others, I'm sure, > would like to see some sort of integration between Samba and Netatalk. For > instance, Netatalk creates .AppleDouble and .AppleDesktop directories which > are visible from windows machines. If my users copy files or folders out of > one directory to another via windows, it can wreck the .AppleXXXXX > information. Sometimes they just delete the .AppleDouble directory -- one > shows up on their Win95 desktops (which are stored on the network), for > instance, and they all delete it at their earliest convenience. It would be > nice if Samba could "know" about Netatalk directories and hide them, while > handling them appropriately. Like NT -- the resource forks are never > visible on NT, but always function appropriately. > > Samba's macro features would be very useful on Netatalk. In fact, a unified > Samba/Netatalk server that uses common configuration files would be > extremely useful. > > Of course, use of common lockfiles would be a bonus, also. At whistle communitcations we sell a device that incorporated both netatalk and samba. I integrated netatalk into FreeBSD for this and the present maintainer of SAMBA is on our staff. He is also in charge of netatalk issues here so you might say that the present maintainer of SAMBA has daily contact with netatlk. If you look at the newer releases of SAMBA you will see a feature called "veto file" What this does is dissallow SAMBA from reporting any hint of a ny pathname that contains tha names given in that command, to tha SAMBA users. our VETO list includes .AppleDouble and other netatlkd related files. that SAMBA users can never delete their .AppleDouble directoies because they cannot see them. The newest patch release of SAMBA (being worked on now) Has a NEW version of the veto facility. (I forget it's name) that has SLIGHTLY differnt semantics. An added feature of the new code is that if a SAMBA user has an EMPTY directory (as far as they are concerned, which actually contains a veto'd file that they cannot see. then a request to delete that directory WILL succeeed, as samba will first remove the .AppleDouble file, reasoning that there is no longer any reason for it as the parent directory has no other entries. So there is some interaction between SAMBA and NETATALK already (sponsored by Whsitle communications ( plug plug www.whistle.com)) We are presently integrating internaltionalisation patches to enable samba and netatalk to present filenames in other character sets in a unified and consistent manner. thes pathces will be given back as sson as they seem to work.. (The SAMBA patches ARE back by definition as they are being done by jeremy, the Samba guy..) We are looking at locking strategies. That will possibly be the next action.. we do however need to get some of the netatalk team involved.. (they seem a bit reticent so far) julian From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 13 16:56:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id QAA19668; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 16:56:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA19656; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 16:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA25683; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 16:56:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA25681; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 16:56:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpo.whistle.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA25675; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 16:56:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA08323; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 13:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd008321; Sun Jul 13 20:23:49 1997 Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 13:21:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Michael Rothwell cc: Michael Stone , Michael Rothwell , Kamal Kantawala , samba@anu.edu.au, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Michael Rothwell wrote: > > Well, the .AppleXXXX directories are neccessary, so that the Macs can > 'know' about files on the server. They need the resource fork to identify > the file type and creator. > > Does that Samba parameter just cause the "hidden" attribute to be set, or > does it actually hide them? As I wrote it, I can categorically say that they are TRUELY hidden from SAMBA users, (except that they will not be able to create a file with those names (mysteriously they will get an error)) From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 13 17:12:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id RAA20406; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:12:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA20400; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:12:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA27356; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:12:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA27354; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:12:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beijing.itri.loyola.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA27350; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:12:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mstone@localhost) by beijing.itri.loyola.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA24609; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:12:05 -0400 Message-ID: <19970713171205.12818@beijing.itri.loyola.edu> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:12:05 -0400 From: Michael Stone To: Michael Rothwell Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system References: <19970713145455.00488@beijing.itri.loyola.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: ; from Michael Rothwell on Sun, Jul 13, 1997 at 03:43:38PM -0400 X-Fingerprint: 53 FF 38 00 E7 DD 0A 9C 84 52 84 C5 EE DF 7C 88 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Quoting Michael Rothwell (rothwell@email.cybergrafx.com): > Well, the .AppleXXXX directories are neccessary, so that the Macs can > 'know' about files on the server. They need the resource fork to identify > the file type and creator. Hmm. So, how do the macs figure out the file type and creator for files created by non-macs? If that data can be generated part of the time, I don't see why it can't be generated all of the time. Whether that ability is useful depends on the composition of the machines on your network, but for people with only a few macs, it is annoying to have their droppings in all the directories in the file system. Hiding the appledoubles is aesthetically more pleasing for non-mac users, but it cause other problems, e.g., when one of the non-mac users tries to delete a directory tree with hidden appledouble directories. -- Michael Stone, Sysadmin, ITRI mstone@itri.loyola.edu PGP: finger, or email with "Subject: get pgp key" From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 13 17:33:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id RAA21128; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA21124; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:33:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA04792; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:32:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA04790; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:32:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from email.cybergrafx.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA04786; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from arthur.rothwell.holly-springs.nc.us (rtp-nc5-19.ix.netcom.com [199.35.214.179]) by email.cybergrafx.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA22133; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:32:47 -0400 Message-Id: <199707132132.RAA22133@email.cybergrafx.com> From: "Michael Rothwell" To: "Michael Stone" , "Michael Rothwell" Cc: Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:22:35 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Netatalk synthesises filt type/creator information based on filename extensions. But, with no extensions, or wrong extensions, the Macs will no longer have the correct information supplied to them. And Mac users aren't used to using filename extensions. Sometimes they don't even know what they should be. And, with on-the-fly file/creator type creation, you only ever have one choice for a given extension. With .AppleXXX files, the server remembers what the Mac wants to see for a given file. Another issue is icons. It's not a huge one for most people, but we produce CD-ROMs, and need for the Finder information (icons, icon positions, window sizes, etc.) to be preserved. -M ---------- > From: Michael Stone > To: Michael Rothwell > Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system > Date: Sunday, July 13, 1997 5:12 PM > > Quoting Michael Rothwell (rothwell@email.cybergrafx.com): > > Well, the .AppleXXXX directories are neccessary, so that the Macs can > > 'know' about files on the server. They need the resource fork to identify > > the file type and creator. > > Hmm. So, how do the macs figure out the file type and creator for > files created by non-macs? If that data can be generated part of > the time, I don't see why it can't be generated all of the time. > Whether that ability is useful depends on the composition of the > machines on your network, but for people with only a few macs, > it is annoying to have their droppings in all the directories in > the file system. Hiding the appledoubles is aesthetically more > pleasing for non-mac users, but it cause other problems, e.g., > when one of the non-mac users tries to delete a directory tree > with hidden appledouble directories. > > -- > Michael Stone, Sysadmin, ITRI > mstone@itri.loyola.edu > PGP: finger, or email with "Subject: get pgp key" From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 13 17:35:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id RAA21268; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:35:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA21226; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:34:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA29975; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:34:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA29972; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:34:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from email.cybergrafx.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA29958; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:34:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from arthur.rothwell.holly-springs.nc.us (rtp-nc5-19.ix.netcom.com [199.35.214.179]) by email.cybergrafx.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA22142; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:34:22 -0400 Message-Id: <199707132134.RAA22142@email.cybergrafx.com> From: "Michael Rothwell" To: "Julian Elischer" Cc: "Kamal Kantawala" , , Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:24:25 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Thank you for the information. I'll add VETO to my smb.conf on Monday. Why is the Netatalk team "recticent", I wonder? ---------- > From: Julian Elischer > To: Michael Rothwell > Cc: Kamal Kantawala ; samba@anu.edu.au; netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system > Date: Sunday, July 13, 1997 4:18 PM > > > > At whistle communitcations we sell a device that incorporated both > netatalk and samba. I integrated netatalk into FreeBSD for this and > the present maintainer of SAMBA is on our staff. He is also in charge > of netatalk issues here so you might say that the present maintainer of > SAMBA has daily contact with netatlk. If you look at the > newer releases of SAMBA you will see a feature called "veto file" > What this does is dissallow SAMBA from reporting any hint of a ny > pathname that contains tha names given in that command, to tha SAMBA > users. > > our VETO list includes .AppleDouble and other netatlkd related > files. that SAMBA users can never delete their .AppleDouble > directoies because they cannot see them. > The newest patch release of SAMBA (being worked on now) Has > a NEW version of the veto facility. (I forget it's name) > that has SLIGHTLY differnt semantics. An added feature of the new > code is that if a SAMBA user has an EMPTY directory (as far as they are > concerned, which actually contains a veto'd file that they cannot see. > then a request to delete that directory WILL succeeed, as samba will first > remove the .AppleDouble file, reasoning that there is no longer any reason > for it as the parent directory has no other entries. > > So there is some interaction between SAMBA and NETATALK > already (sponsored by Whsitle communications ( plug plug www.whistle.com)) > We are presently integrating internaltionalisation patches to enable > samba and netatalk to present filenames in other character sets in > a unified and consistent manner. > thes pathces will be given back as sson as they seem to work.. > (The SAMBA patches ARE back by definition as they are being > done by jeremy, the Samba guy..) > > We are looking at locking strategies. That will possibly be the > next action.. > we do however need to get some of the netatalk team involved.. > (they seem a bit reticent so far) > > julian From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 13 17:42:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id RAA21924; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA21920; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:41:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA00970; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:41:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA00968; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:41:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shrimp.dataplex.net by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA00959; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 17:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [208.2.87.4] (user4.dataplex.net [208.2.87.4]) by shrimp.dataplex.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA20413; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 16:41:48 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: rkw@mail.dataplex.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19970713171205.12818@beijing.itri.loyola.edu> References: ; from Michael Rothwell on Sun, Jul 13, 1997 at 03:43:38PM -0400 <19970713145455.00488@beijing.itri.loyola.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 16:41:05 -0500 To: Michael Stone From: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system Cc: Michael Rothwell , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 4:12 PM -0500 7/13/97, Michael Stone wrote: >Hmm. So, how do the macs figure out the file type and creator for >files created by non-macs? If that data can be generated part of >the time, I don't see why it can't be generated all of the time. It can, it the data is "non-Mac". However, the Mac has no concept of generating anything in that form. Because they can assume a "default" when they have no better information, they can use data generated by another system following some default name->content mapping. However, there is nothing to require that the file follows the default convention. For example, I could create xxx.jpg which was really a spreadsheet. On the Mac, double-clicking on that document would launch Excel rather than Photoshop. From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 13 18:12:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id SAA22878; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 18:12:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA22874; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 18:12:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA08899; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 18:11:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA08897; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 18:11:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beijing.itri.loyola.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA08893; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 18:11:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mstone@localhost) by beijing.itri.loyola.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA24745; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 18:12:34 -0400 Message-ID: <19970713181234.14505@beijing.itri.loyola.edu> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 18:12:34 -0400 From: Michael Stone To: Michael Rothwell Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system References: <199707132132.RAA22133@email.cybergrafx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: <199707132132.RAA22133@email.cybergrafx.com>; from Michael Rothwell on Sun, Jul 13, 1997 at 05:22:35PM -0400 X-Fingerprint: 53 FF 38 00 E7 DD 0A 9C 84 52 84 C5 EE DF 7C 88 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Quoting Michael Rothwell (rothwell@holly-springs.nc.us): > Netatalk synthesises filt type/creator information based on filename > extensions. But, with no extensions, or wrong extensions, the Macs will no > longer have the correct information supplied to them. And Mac users aren't > used to using filename extensions. Sometimes they don't even know what they > should be. And, with on-the-fly file/creator type creation, you only ever > have one choice for a given extension. With .AppleXXX files, the server > remembers what the Mac wants to see for a given file. I've gotten a couple of responses with points similar to this, so I'll only respond to the first. Remember that I said that this all depends on your network composition. If you're dealing with public directories used by macs and pc's, the files _already_ have to be created with the proper extensions, or the pc's won't know what to do with them. (I'm not talking about anything exotic here, just things like .doc, .gif, .jpg, etc.) > Another issue is icons. It's not a huge one for most people, but we produce > CD-ROMs, and need for the Finder information (icons, icon positions, window > sizes, etc.) to be preserved. I never suggested that the appledoubles be gotten rid of entirely. Instead, it would be nice to be able to specify them on a share- by-share basis, or even as a compile time option. Even if I could prevent them from being created in the common areas I'd still allow them in users' personal directories, where it doesn't matter what extensions they use. -- Michael Stone, Sysadmin, ITRI mstone@itri.loyola.edu PGP: finger, or email with "Subject: get pgp key" From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 13 19:39:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id TAA25047; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 19:39:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA25043; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 19:39:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA13559; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 19:39:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA13555; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 19:39:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sys3.cambridge.uk.psi.net by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA13547; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 19:39:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net [154.32.106.14]) by sys3.cambridge.uk.psi.net (8.8.4/) with ESMTP id AAA23001 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 00:39:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from nan.UUCP by uucp1.mail.uk.psi.net (8.7.5/SMI-5.5-UKPSINet) id AAA27708; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 00:21:42 +0100 (BST) Received: by mailhost.nan.co.uk (sendmail 8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA27479; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 23:37:26 +0100 X-Sender: sw@mailhost.nan.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19970713171205.12818@beijing.itri.loyola.edu> References: ; from Michael Rothwell on Sun, Jul 13, 1997 at 03:43:38PM -0400 <19970713145455.00488@beijing.itri.loyola.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 3.1 Organization: Network Analysis Ltd Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 23:37:22 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Sak Wathanasin Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In reply to Michael Stone's message of the 13/07/97 at 17:12 -0400, > Hmm. So, how do the macs figure out the file type and creator for > files created by non-macs? They don't: netatalk uses a heuristic based on any suffices there may be in the filename (remember that list in the AppleVolumes.system file?) Such a list is, by definition, incomplete and somewhat arbitrary. For example, text files can be created by any one of several aapls on the Mac. If you throw away the Finder info, and you simply use the suffix (.txt, say), there is no way of deducing which Mac appl actually created the file. It all depends on whether your Mac users see the netatalk volume as a convenient way of sharing files with their Unix/Window colleagues or whether they see it as a true repository for Mac files in which case they'd expect all info about their files to be kept. > pleasing for non-mac users, but it cause other problems, e.g., > when one of the non-mac users tries to delete a directory tree > with hidden appledouble directories. What problems would that be? If you're going to nuke the directory, what does it matter what was in it before? Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK Internet: sw@nan.co.uk uucp: ...!britain.eu.net!nan!sw Phone: (+44) 1203 419996 Fax: (+44) 1203 690690 From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 13 20:03:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id UAA25828; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:03:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA25824; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:03:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA19746; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:02:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA19740; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beijing.itri.loyola.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA19728; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:02:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mstone@localhost) by beijing.itri.loyola.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA24895; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:03:18 -0400 Message-ID: <19970713200317.01203@beijing.itri.loyola.edu> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:03:17 -0400 From: Michael Stone To: Sak Wathanasin Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system References: ; <19970713145455.00488@beijing.itri.loyola.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: ; from Sak Wathanasin on Sun, Jul 13, 1997 at 11:37:22PM +0100 X-Fingerprint: 53 FF 38 00 E7 DD 0A 9C 84 52 84 C5 EE DF 7C 88 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Quoting Sak Wathanasin (sw@nan.co.uk): > It all depends on whether your Mac users see the netatalk volume as a > convenient way of sharing files with their Unix/Window colleagues or whether > they see it as a true repository for Mac files in which case they'd expect all > info about their files to be kept. Exactly. It all depends on the application. > > pleasing for non-mac users, but it cause other problems, e.g., > > when one of the non-mac users tries to delete a directory tree > > with hidden appledouble directories. > > What problems would that be? If you're going to nuke the directory, what does > it matter what was in it before? The unix host won't delete a non-empty directory, even if it looks empty because the files in it are hidden. -- Michael Stone, Sysadmin, ITRI mstone@itri.loyola.edu PGP: finger, or email with "Subject: get pgp key" From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 13 20:58:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id UAA27088; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:58:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA27075; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:58:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA21828; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:58:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA21825; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:58:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from email.cybergrafx.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA21819; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:58:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from arthur.rothwell.holly-springs.nc.us (rtp-nc10-08.ix.netcom.com [206.214.141.104]) by email.cybergrafx.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA22322 for ; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:58:23 -0400 Message-Id: <199707140058.UAA22322@email.cybergrafx.com> From: "Michael Rothwell" To: Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:47:09 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > The unix host won't delete a non-empty directory, even if it looks > empty because the files in it are hidden. # rm -r * --- Kills 'em dead. From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 13 21:11:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id VAA27568; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 21:11:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id VAA27564; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 21:11:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA23415; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 21:11:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA23411; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 21:11:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sally.nas.nasa.gov by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA23405; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 21:11:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from plambert@localhost) by sally.nas.nasa.gov (8.8.3/NAS.6.1) id SAA27720; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 18:10:09 -0700 (PDT) From: plambert@nas.nasa.gov (Paul M. Lambert) Message-Id: <199707140110.SAA27720@sally.nas.nasa.gov> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system To: rothwell@holly-springs.nc.us (Michael Rothwell) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 18:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <199707140058.UAA22322@email.cybergrafx.com> from "Michael Rothwell" at Jul 13, 97 08:47:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Michael Rothwell said: > > > The unix host won't delete a non-empty directory, even if it looks > > empty because the files in it are hidden. > > # rm -r * > > --- Kills 'em dead. > Yep, if you have access to a command line. Typically, the problem is this: the user does not. They only have access through samba/netatalk/whatever. In this case, their local machine does not see any files in the folder/dir and so tells the host to delete it. The host attempts to do so, and it cannot, because there are files in it. This will, in almost every case, result in a very confused user. ;-) It would be possible, as someone mentioned, to patch netatalk and samba to allow recursive deletion of directories which only contain "invisible" files. This would take a small amount of work, however. The alternative would be to always trust the client, and delete all dirs recursively when the client asks for the directory to be deleted. However, I don't know if the "can't do that, there are files" error typically comes from the application level, or filesystem level... --Paul From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 13 21:29:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id VAA28149; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 21:29:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id VAA28145; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 21:29:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA25672; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 21:28:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA25666; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 21:28:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beijing.itri.loyola.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA25655; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 21:28:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mstone@localhost) by beijing.itri.loyola.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA25102; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 21:28:56 -0400 Message-ID: <19970713212856.65294@beijing.itri.loyola.edu> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 21:28:56 -0400 From: Michael Stone To: Michael Rothwell Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system References: <199707140058.UAA22322@email.cybergrafx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: <199707140058.UAA22322@email.cybergrafx.com>; from Michael Rothwell on Sun, Jul 13, 1997 at 08:47:09PM -0400 X-Fingerprint: 53 FF 38 00 E7 DD 0A 9C 84 52 84 C5 EE DF 7C 88 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Quoting Michael Rothwell (rothwell@holly-springs.nc.us): [I said that even if the .AppleDouble directories are hidden, they can still cause problems] > # rm -r * Argh. Ok, scenario 1: User 1 creates directory foo (perm 775) , but doesn't use netatalk. User 2 goes into user1's directory with netatalk, umask 022. User 1 decides to get rid of foo. Uh, oh, he can't delete user 2's files from .AppleDouble, so the system won't let him remove the directory. scenario 2: user1 is a unix newbie, but knows how to create a directory. So, he creates a directory 'bar' from a shell and later enters it using netatalk. He gets tired of that directory and decides to get rid of it. He does 'cd bar; rm *; cd ..; rmdir bar'. user1 then calls for help because the machine won't let him get rid of his directory. It keeps telling him the directory is empty, even though 'ls' doesn't show any files. scenario 3: user1 has gotten into the habit of always using 'rm -r', because that's the way to get rid of .AppleDouble. So now when he tries to get rid of directory foobar, he does 'cd ..; rm -r *'. Oops. user1 then calls for help because all his files are gone. I admit these are a bit contrived (though I have seen similar situations) but the point is, why create potential problems if they can at all be avoided? No, you can't protect users (or sysadmins) from everything, but you do the best you can. -- Michael Stone, Sysadmin, ITRI mstone@itri.loyola.edu PGP: finger, or email with "Subject: get pgp key" From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 13 22:28:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id WAA29067; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:28:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id WAA29063; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:28:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA04074; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:28:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA04072; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:28:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from email.cybergrafx.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA04067; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from arthur.rothwell.holly-springs.nc.us (rtp-nc10-08.ix.netcom.com [206.214.141.104]) by email.cybergrafx.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA22416; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:28:18 -0400 Message-Id: <199707140228.WAA22416@email.cybergrafx.com> From: "Michael Rothwell" To: "Michael Stone" Cc: Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:17:06 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Or, an even worse scenario: the user wants to delete all files and directories starting with a dot, so he issues: "rm -r .*", which keeps going up the directory structure, annihilating everything it can as it does. (I once did this, a long time ago, on an SGI system while logged in as root. BOY, was that was ugly). ---------- > From: Michael Stone > To: Michael Rothwell > Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system > Date: Sunday, July 13, 1997 9:28 PM > > Quoting Michael Rothwell (rothwell@holly-springs.nc.us): > [I said that even if the .AppleDouble directories are hidden, > they can still cause problems] > > # rm -r * > > Argh. Ok, scenario 1: User 1 creates directory foo (perm 775) > , but doesn't use netatalk. User 2 goes into user1's directory > with netatalk, umask 022. User 1 decides to get rid of foo. > Uh, oh, he can't delete user 2's files from .AppleDouble, so > the system won't let him remove the directory. > > scenario 2: user1 is a unix newbie, but knows how to create a > directory. So, he creates a directory 'bar' from a shell and > later enters it using netatalk. He gets tired of that directory > and decides to get rid of it. He does 'cd bar; rm *; cd ..; > rmdir bar'. user1 then calls for help because the machine > won't let him get rid of his directory. It keeps telling > him the directory is empty, even though 'ls' doesn't show > any files. > > scenario 3: user1 has gotten into the habit of always using > 'rm -r', because that's the way to get rid of .AppleDouble. > So now when he tries to get rid of directory foobar, he does > 'cd ..; rm -r *'. Oops. user1 then calls for help because all > his files are gone. > > I admit these are a bit contrived (though I have seen similar > situations) but the point is, why create potential problems > if they can at all be avoided? No, you can't protect users > (or sysadmins) from everything, but you do the best you can. > > -- > Michael Stone, Sysadmin, ITRI > mstone@itri.loyola.edu > PGP: finger, or email with "Subject: get pgp key" From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 13 23:41:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id XAA00163; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 23:41:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id XAA00157; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 23:41:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA14723; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 23:41:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA14721; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 23:41:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciesin.org by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id XAA14717; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 23:41:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail (mail.ciesin.org) by ciesin.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05518; Sun, 13 Jul 97 23:40:57 EDT Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 23:40:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Schatzer X-Sender: schatzer@mail To: Michael Stone Cc: Sak Wathanasin , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system In-Reply-To: <19970713200317.01203@beijing.itri.loyola.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Michael Stone wrote: > > The unix host won't delete a non-empty directory, even if it looks > empty because the files in it are hidden. > But what about rm -fR on Sun systems? If memory serves, you do not have to be SuperUser to use the "R" option, so long as you have write permissions to the dir...... --Scott S. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Schatzer | CIESIN Systems Administrator | The Consortium for International scott.schatzer@ciesin.org | Earth Science Information Network Phone: 517-797-2679 | 2250 Pierce Rd. Fax: 517-797-2622 | University Center, MI 48710 http://www.ciesin.org | ===================================================================== From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 13 23:45:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id XAA00521; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 23:45:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id XAA00507; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 23:45:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA16226; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 23:44:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA16224; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 23:44:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciesin.org by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id XAA16220; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 23:44:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail (mail.ciesin.org) by ciesin.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05542; Sun, 13 Jul 97 23:45:27 EDT Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 23:45:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Schatzer X-Sender: schatzer@mail To: Michael Stone Cc: Michael Rothwell , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system In-Reply-To: <19970713212856.65294@beijing.itri.loyola.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Michael Stone wrote: > Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 21:28:56 -0400 > From: Michael Stone > To: Michael Rothwell > Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system > > Quoting Michael Rothwell (rothwell@holly-springs.nc.us): > [I said that even if the .AppleDouble directories are hidden, > they can still cause problems] > > # rm -r * > > Argh. Ok, scenario 1: User 1 creates directory foo (perm 775) > , but doesn't use netatalk. User 2 goes into user1's directory > with netatalk, umask 022. User 1 decides to get rid of foo. > Uh, oh, he can't delete user 2's files from .AppleDouble, so > the system won't let him remove the directory. > > scenario 2: user1 is a unix newbie, but knows how to create a > directory. So, he creates a directory 'bar' from a shell and > later enters it using netatalk. He gets tired of that directory > and decides to get rid of it. He does 'cd bar; rm *; cd ..; > rmdir bar'. user1 then calls for help because the machine > won't let him get rid of his directory. It keeps telling > him the directory is empty, even though 'ls' doesn't show > any files. > > scenario 3: user1 has gotten into the habit of always using > 'rm -r', because that's the way to get rid of .AppleDouble. > So now when he tries to get rid of directory foobar, he does > 'cd ..; rm -r *'. Oops. user1 then calls for help because all > his files are gone. > > I admit these are a bit contrived (though I have seen similar > situations) but the point is, why create potential problems > if they can at all be avoided? No, you can't protect users > (or sysadmins) from everything, but you do the best you can. > > -- > Michael Stone, Sysadmin, ITRI > mstone@itri.loyola.edu > PGP: finger, or email with "Subject: get pgp key" > > Sounds like creative use of the "s" bit could overcome some of these problems. As well, Sysadmins may want to try aliasing rm to "rm -i" for newbie users so they are prompted before trashing dirs...... --Scott S. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Schatzer | CIESIN Systems Administrator | The Consortium for International scott.schatzer@ciesin.org | Earth Science Information Network Phone: 517-797-2679 | 2250 Pierce Rd. Fax: 517-797-2622 | University Center, MI 48710 http://www.ciesin.org | ===================================================================== From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 14 07:49:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id HAA01281; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 07:49:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA01272; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 07:48:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA27737; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 07:48:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA27731; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 07:48:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sys3.cambridge.uk.psi.net by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA27710; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 07:48:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net [154.32.106.14]) by sys3.cambridge.uk.psi.net (8.8.4/) with ESMTP id MAA00595; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:48:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from nan.UUCP by sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (8.7.5/SMI-5.5-UKPSINet) id MAA27869; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:29:09 +0100 (BST) Received: by mailhost.nan.co.uk (sendmail 8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA29647; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:55:54 +0100 X-Sender: sw@mailhost.nan.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 3.1 Organization: Network Analysis Ltd Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:55:49 +0100 To: Michael Stone From: Sak Wathanasin Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Earlier, I wrote: ... > 2) you're doing it on a Mac via netatalk in which case the Finder/netatalk >does > (1) on your behalf... ... > (2) certainly works with an arbitary .XXX folder that you can't see on the > desktop I take that back with apologies to Micheal: I used the option-empty-trash trick to try to force the Finder to remove all files. All it did was to suppress the error message about its not being able to remove some files. It looked as though it had worked; only when I tried to unmount the volume did I realize that it hadn't. The AFP command set does have a "delete directory" command, but says that it must be empty for it to work. One could argue that "empty" means not counting files that are not visible to the Finder and that netatalk should do an "rm -rf" for you. Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK Internet: sw@nan.co.uk uucp: ...!britain.eu.net!nan!sw Phone: (+44) 1203 419996 Fax: (+44) 1203 690690 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 14 07:49:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id HAA01289; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 07:49:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA01273; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 07:48:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA27738; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 07:48:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA27732; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 07:48:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sys3.cambridge.uk.psi.net by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA27712; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 07:48:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net [154.32.106.14]) by sys3.cambridge.uk.psi.net (8.8.4/) with ESMTP id MAA00607; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:48:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from nan.UUCP by sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (8.7.5/SMI-5.5-UKPSINet) id MAA27847; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:28:53 +0100 (BST) Received: by mailhost.nan.co.uk (sendmail 8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA29486; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:37:03 +0100 X-Sender: sw@mailhost.nan.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19970713200317.01203@beijing.itri.loyola.edu> References: ; from Sak Wathanasin on Sun, Jul 13, 1997 at 11:37:22PM +0100 ; <19970713145455.00488@beijing.itri.loyola.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 3.1 Organization: Network Analysis Ltd Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:36:58 +0100 To: Michael Stone From: Sak Wathanasin Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NFS/SMB/Appleshare on the same file system Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 20:03 -0400 13/07/97, Michael Stone wrote: > The unix host won't delete a non-empty directory, even if it looks > empty because the files in it are hidden. 3 cases to consider: 1) you're doing it from the Unix host in which case you have "rm -rf" or equivalent 2) you're doing it on a Mac via netatalk in which case the Finder/netatalk does (1) on your behalf (you did ask to throw away the folder after all, and clicked "yes" to all the confirmation dialogues) 3) you're doing it on Windows via Samba in which case Samba should do (1) on your behalf; if it doesn't, it's a bug (2) certainly works with an arbitary .XXX folder that you can't see on the desktop; I have no way of checking (3). Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK Internet: sw@nan.co.uk uucp: ...!britain.eu.net!nan!sw Phone: (+44) 1203 419996 Fax: (+44) 1203 690690 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 14 15:38:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA17261; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA17257; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA14852; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:37:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA14847; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:37:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news.netwiz.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA14829; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [207.171.206.94] ([207.171.206.94]) by news.netwiz.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00236 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:35:48 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 12:35:48 -0700 X-Sender: ost@netwiz.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Os Tyler Subject: [netatalk-admins] atalkd: can't get interfaces, exiting (Solaris 2.5.1) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Netatalk 1.4b2 on Sparc4 running Solaris 2.5.1 I was previously having the following problem: Solaris file systems mounted on the mac appear as an empty file menu. Copying from the Mac to the Sparc is possible but copying from the Sparc to the Mac is not, as no files can be seen. I heard this might have been caused by compiling with /usr/ucb rather than with gcc. So I switched to compiling with gcc and followed these steps: make kinstall clean make install clean make clean make make install make kinstall Now at boot, or from /usr/local/atalk/etc when I start atalkd (by typing atalkd) I get the message "atalkd: can't get interfaces, exiting." Suggestions? From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 14 16:31:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id QAA20471; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:31:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA20374; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:30:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA16441; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA16437; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA16421; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gandalf.umcs.maine.edu by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with SMTP id QAA26781; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:30:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (jerrys@localhost) by gandalf.umcs.maine.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA11094 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:29:22 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:29:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerry Spaulding To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Permissions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Once again, I have had no luck with this problem so here it is again. I am having problems with netatalk 1.4b2 on a sparc20 using solaris 2.5.1. Everything is fine when I am root, but when any other user wants to use nbp functions or pap or other utils, they get a permission denied error. For instance, pap returns a nbp_lookup: permission denied error. Any ideas? I tried using the new auth file but it wouldnt compile. ******************************************************** Jerry Spaulding jerry@icarus.umesci.maine.edu fnord@nowhere.backloop.net ******************************************************** From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 14 16:56:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id QAA21786; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:56:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA21782; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA14225; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:55:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA14220; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:55:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uustar.starnet.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA14214; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 16:55:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from Udatapag@localhost) by uustar.starnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id PAA25013; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:42:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [172.16.6.1] by datapage.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA05786; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:38:24 -0500 X-Sender: tim@stlouis.datapage.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:38:16 -0500 To: Os Tyler From: Tim Rand Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] atalkd: can't get interfaces, exiting (Solaris 2.5.1) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 2:35 PM -0500 7/14/97, Os Tyler wrote: >Solaris file systems mounted on the mac appear as an empty file menu. >Copying from the Mac to the Sparc is possible but copying from the Sparc to >the Mac is not, as no files can be seen. > >I heard this might have been caused by compiling with /usr/ucb rather than >with gcc. > >So I switched to compiling with gcc and followed these steps: Just a quick guess. Security... You probably have write access, but not read access. Thus you have a "drop folder" situation. You can write, but not see anything. This can be verified by issuing a "chmod a+rwx" on a file in the directory and seeing if you can see it on the Mac. (reminder, you have to close the folder and re-open to refresh the file list). From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 14 17:32:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id RAA23536; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:32:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA23500; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:32:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA25982; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:31:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA25980; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:31:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from eros.brunel.ac.uk by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id RAA25968; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:31:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Callum.Downie@brunel.ac.uk Received: from rimmer-192.brunel.ac.uk (actually rimmer.brunel.ac.uk) by eros.brunel.ac.uk with SMTP-BRUNEL (PP); Mon, 14 Jul 1997 22:32:25 +0100 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 22:32:24 +0100 Message-Id: <20846.199707142132@rimmer-192.brunel.ac.uk> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Permissions X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Once again, I have had no luck with this problem so here it is again. > > I am having problems with netatalk 1.4b2 on a sparc20 using solaris 2.5.1. > Everything is fine when I am root, but when any other user wants to use > nbp functions or pap or other utils, they get a permission denied error. > For instance, pap returns a nbp_lookup: permission denied error. Any > ideas? I tried using the new auth file but it wouldnt compile. Read/write permission is needed on ddp device To do a quick check cd /devices/pseudo chmod a+rw clone@0:ddp From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 14 17:47:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id RAA25239; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:47:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA25225; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:47:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA00781; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:46:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA00761; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:46:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA00594; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 17:46:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23368; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 14:33:00 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA20227; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 14:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 14:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707142129.OAA20227@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: mfreeman@iglou.com, everette_allen@ncsu.edu, joakim.ahlen@mediaprint.se, greg@smithphoto.com, halset@pvv.ntnu.no, hannu@ddbn.ee, kateley@apple.com, jwa@jammed.com, mbbecker@mail.deforest.k12.wi.us, chandhok@within.com, netatalk@umich.edu, brasherj@zoology.washington.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu, appleshareip@private.lists.apple.com, wrstuden@loki.stanford.edu, richardk@iprolink.co.nz, kenp@nmrfam.wisc.edu, schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov, mego@url.de, wrd@awenet.com Subject: [netatalk-admins] AFP/TCP patches release a12 and afpd.conf Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu the next version of my afp/tcp patches are now available at ftp.u.washington.edu: what's in this version: ultrix and solaris should now compile properly you can specify the tcp port via -S you can specify a login message via -l "this is a message" now that that's over, here's my proposal for an afpd.conf: 1) command-line options will override all options specified in afpd.conf. this is open to debate. it might be better to have the command-line options just set the default fields. 2) the following options are command-line only: max connections, lock file 3) you specify things in the following manner: -zone zone -defaultvol vol -debug -nosavepassword ... if something is missing, it defaults to what afpd currently does. how does that sound? -a From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 14 18:16:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id SAA27446; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 18:16:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA27434; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 18:16:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA22378; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 18:16:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA22373; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 18:16:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gumshoe.awenet.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA22348; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 18:16:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([[UNIX: localhost]]) by gumshoe.awenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA02345 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 15:11:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "William R. Dickson" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Autoselect problem with asun mods Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all, Adrian has been unable to figure out this problem, and I don't know enough to be much help, so I thought I'd see if anybody else is experiencing it. Using his afp/tcp modifications, I see the following symptoms: - AppleTalk-only clients (AppleShare previous to 3.7) automatically establish an AppleTalk connection to the server without trouble. Their aliases and mount-on-startup volumes work normally. - TCP-only clients (people connecting from outside the local network) automatically establish a TCP connection to the server without trouble. Their aliases and mount-on-startup volumes work normally. - AppleTalk and TCP clients (AppleShare 3.7 and 3.7.1 on the local network) have problems. If they simply double-click on the server name in the Chooser, the system thinks for about 30 seconds before eventually establishing an AppleTalk connection instead of a TCP/IP connection. If you option-click to force an AppleTalk connection, it works fine. If you enter a TCP address for the server, it mounts fine over TCP/IP. But it can't autoselect. In addition, no matter how the volume is mounted, aliases and mount-on-startup volumes set at that time always experience the 30-second delay and AppleTalk connections the next time the system tries to mount the volume. I've tried this on NetBSD 1.2.1 and -current, with and without zones on the network, and duplicated the problem on a 7100 running MacOS 8b5 with AppleShare client 3.7.1, and a Mac IIsi running 7.5.5 with AS client 3.7. Anybody else seeing this behavior? Or any ideas what could be causing it? Thanks, -Bill -- William R. Dickson -- Consuming the Earth's limited resources since 1968 wrd@awenet.com <> http://www.halcyon.com/wrd/ <> VNB3T, VSC1T, VSX1T Am I to understand that, to save his contemptible life, he dared to practice on our credulous simplicity? Our revenge shall be swift and terrible! -The Pirates of Penzance Gilbert & Sullivan From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 14 20:42:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id UAA03267; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 20:42:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA03251; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 20:42:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA09041; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 20:41:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA09035; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 20:41:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gomer.wiscnet.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id UAA09018; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 20:41:20 -0400 (EDT) From: mt@carthage.edu Received: from grace.carthage.edu ([198.150.93.69]) by gomer.wiscnet.net (8.6.9W/) with SMTP id TAA53696 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 19:41:59 -0500 Received: by grace.carthage.edu; Mon, 14 Jul 97 20:10:58 CDT Date: Mon, 14 Jul 97 18:56:21 CDT Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: , , Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] token-ring Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Dear Ian, Brian, and netatalk-admins, Thanks you for sharing your knowledge. I took Ian's advice and, sure enough, /etc/services was missing the four ddp entries. However, while that made the "Unknown service" message go away, appletalk still doesn't work on this computer. In the meantime, I also: - recompiled my kernel (still linux 2.0.30) with ddp built in (as opposed to being a loadable module); still no good. - followed Brian's lead and installed an ethernet card to see whether it's a token-ring support issue; still no good (both eth0 and tr0 work with IP, but neither works with ddp). The state it's in now is that 'getzones' gives the message (after a while) "atp_resp: Connection timed out"; 'atalkd' gives an immediate "AppleTalk not up! Child exited with 1.", and 'ifconfig tr0 ddp up; ifconfig eth0 ddp up; ifconfig' shows no change in the interface (it doesn't look like ddp comes up at all, although neither of the first two ifconfigs give any error). This happens whether my /etc/atalkd.conf looks like tr0 eth0 or like tr0 -phase 2 -net 1-10 -addr 1.222 eth0 -phase 2 -net 9000-9099 -addr 9000.222 Anyone have any further ideas on this? I really appreciate it -- thanks! -- Mark Ian Cameron wrote: >> - 'getzones' gives "Unknown service." > >Do you have the correct entries in /etc/services ? > >rtmp 1/ddp # Routing Table Maintenance Protocol >nbp 2/ddp # Name Binding Protocol >echo 4/ddp # AppleTalk Echo Protocol >zip 6/ddp # Zone Information Protocol > >I found when trying to run netatalk on a RedHat Intel box using a >binary RPM that /etc/services did not contain the correct entries and >the RPM did not update them either, which resulted in an "Unknown >service." error from getzones. > >Hope this helps some. Thanks! >Cheers, Ian. Mark Tomory Carthage College From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 14 21:07:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id VAA04366; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 21:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id VAA04363; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 21:07:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id VAA04358; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 21:07:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id VAA04351; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 21:07:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707150107.VAA04351@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: mt@carthage.edu cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, I.A.Cameron@open.ac.uk, hamptonb@clark.net Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] token-ring In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 Jul 1997 18:56:21 CDT." Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 21:07:02 -0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: mt@carthage.edu > To: , , > "AppleTalk not up! Child exited with 1." This error message should read, "AppleTalk not up! See your system log for details." :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 14 21:07:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id VAA04425; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 21:07:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id VAA04392; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 21:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA13418; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 21:06:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA13411; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 21:06:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from email.cybergrafx.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA13395; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 21:06:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from arthur.rothwell.holly-springs.nc.us (rtp-nc10-08.ix.netcom.com [206.214.141.104]) by email.cybergrafx.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA23860 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 21:06:51 -0400 Message-Id: <199707150106.VAA23860@email.cybergrafx.com> From: "Michael Rothwell" To: Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] token-ring Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 20:56:15 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Q. Will the drivers for your netcards let you put them into promiscuous mode? ---------- > From: mt@carthage.edu > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu; I.A.Cameron@open.ac.uk; hamptonb@clark.net > Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] token-ring > Date: Monday, July 14, 1997 7:56 PM > > > Dear Ian, Brian, and netatalk-admins, > > Thanks you for sharing your knowledge. I took Ian's advice > and, sure enough, /etc/services was missing the four ddp entries. > However, while that made the "Unknown service" message go away, > appletalk still doesn't work on this computer. In the meantime, > I also: > > - recompiled my kernel (still linux 2.0.30) with ddp built in (as > opposed to being a loadable module); still no good. > > - followed Brian's lead and installed an ethernet card to see > whether it's a token-ring support issue; still no good (both > eth0 and tr0 work with IP, but neither works with ddp). > > The state it's in now is that 'getzones' gives the message (after > a while) "atp_resp: Connection timed out"; 'atalkd' gives an immediate > "AppleTalk not up! Child exited with 1.", and 'ifconfig tr0 ddp up; > ifconfig eth0 ddp up; ifconfig' shows no change in the interface (it > doesn't look like ddp comes up at all, although neither of the first > two ifconfigs give any error). This happens whether my /etc/atalkd.conf > looks like > > tr0 > eth0 > > or like > > tr0 -phase 2 -net 1-10 -addr 1.222 > eth0 -phase 2 -net 9000-9099 -addr 9000.222 > > Anyone have any further ideas on this? I really appreciate it -- > thanks! > > -- Mark > > Ian Cameron wrote: > >> - 'getzones' gives "Unknown service." > > > >Do you have the correct entries in /etc/services ? > > > >rtmp 1/ddp # Routing Table Maintenance Protocol > >nbp 2/ddp # Name Binding Protocol > >echo 4/ddp # AppleTalk Echo Protocol > >zip 6/ddp # Zone Information Protocol > > > >I found when trying to run netatalk on a RedHat Intel box using a > >binary RPM that /etc/services did not contain the correct entries and > >the RPM did not update them either, which resulted in an "Unknown > >service." error from getzones. > > > >Hope this helps some. > > Thanks! > > >Cheers, Ian. > > Mark Tomory > Carthage College From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 15 04:24:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id EAA20348; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 04:24:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA20344; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 04:24:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA13683; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 04:24:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA13681; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 04:24:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA13677; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 04:24:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from schubert.promo.de by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA12040; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 04:24:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03114; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:14:42 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:18:47 +0200 To: "William R. Dickson" , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Stefan Bethke Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Autoselect problem with asun mods Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 0:11 Uhr +0200 15.07.1997, William R. Dickson wrote: >- AppleTalk and TCP clients (AppleShare 3.7 and 3.7.1 on the local network) > have problems. If they simply double-click on the server name in the > Chooser, the system thinks for about 30 seconds before eventually > establishing an AppleTalk connection instead of a TCP/IP connection. Might it be that the liswt of IP addresses in GetStatus is botched? The following snippet decodes the GetStatus data: ---------------- void ptocstr __P((const char *p, char *c)); void ptocstr (p, c) const char *p; char *c; { bcopy (p+1, c, (unsigned char)*p); c[(unsigned char)*p] = 0; } char *status_flagnames[16] = { "SupportsCopyFile", "SupportChgPwd", "DontAllowSavePwd", "SupportsServerMessages", "SupportsServerSignature", "SupportsTCP/IP", "(Flag 6)", "(Flag 7)", "(Flag 8)", "(Flag 9)", "(Flag 10)", "(Flag 11)", "(Flag 12)", "(Flag 13)", "(Flag 14)", "(Flag 15)", }; void dump_status(data0,len) char *data0; int len; { unsigned char *data = (unsigned char *)data0; struct afp_status *as = (struct afp_status *)data; char s[256]; int i, j; unsigned char *cp, *cp2; if (!(debug & DEBUG_INIT)) return; ptocstr (data+sizeof(struct afp_status), s); fprintf (stderr, "FPGetSrvrStatus: length=%d\n\tname=\"%s\"\n", len, s); if (as->as_machoff) { ptocstr (data+ntohs(as->as_machoff), s); fprintf (stderr, "\tmachine=\"%s\" (%d)\n", s, ntohs(as->as_machoff)); } fprintf (stderr, "\tflags:\n"); for (i=0; i<16; i++) if (ntohs(as->as_flags) & (1 << i)) fprintf (stderr, "\t\t%s\n", status_flagnames[i]); if (as->as_versoff) { cp = data + ntohs(as->as_versoff); fprintf (stderr, "\tversions: (%d)\n", cp - data); for (i=*cp++; i--; ) { ptocstr (cp, s); fprintf (stderr, "\t\t\"%s\"\n", s); cp += *cp + 1; } } if (as->as_uamsoff) { cp = data + ntohs(as->as_uamsoff); fprintf (stderr, "\tuams: (%d)\n", cp - data); for (i=*cp++; i--; ) { ptocstr (cp, s); fprintf (stderr, "\t\t\"%s\"\n", s); cp += *cp + 1; } } if (as->as_iconoff) fprintf (stderr, "\ticon (%d)\n", ntohs (as->as_iconoff)); cp2 = data + sizeof (*as); cp2 += ((unsigned char)data[sizeof(*as)] + 1) & ~1; if (ntohs(as->as_flags) & AFPSRVRINFO_SIGNATURE) { fprintf (stderr, "\tsignature: "); cp = data + ntohs(*(unsigned short *)cp2); for (i=0; i<16; i++, cp++) fprintf (stderr, "%02x ", *cp); cp = data + ntohs(*(unsigned short *)cp2); for (i=0; i<16; i++, cp++) fprintf (stderr, "%c", isprint (*cp) ? *cp : '.'); fprintf (stderr, "(%d)\n", ntohs(*(unsigned short *)cp2)); } if (ntohs(as->as_flags) & AFPSRVRINFO_DSI) { cp = data + ntohs(((unsigned short *)cp2)[1]); fprintf (stderr, "\taddresses: (%d)\n", cp - data); for (i=*cp++; i--; ) { switch (cp[1]) { case AFPADDR_IP: case AFPADDR_IPPORT: j = ntohl(*(unsigned int *)(cp+2)); fprintf (stderr, "\t\tIP: %d.%d.%d.%d", (j >> 24) & 0xFF, (j >> 16) & 0xFF, (j >> 8) & 0xFF, j & 0xFF); if (cp[1] == AFPADDR_IPPORT) fprintf (stderr, ":%d", ntohs(*(unsigned short *)(cp+6))); fprintf (stderr, "\n"); break; case AFPADDR_DDP: fprintf (stderr, "\t\tAT: %d.%d:%d\n", ntohs(*(unsigned short *)(cp+2)), cp[4], cp[5]); break; default: fprintf (stderr, "\t\taddress type %d with %d bytes\n", cp[1], cp[0]); } cp += cp[0]; } } } ------------- Hope this helps, Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-0 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 15 06:09:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id GAA05837; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 06:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA05833; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 06:09:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA20831; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 06:08:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA20825; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 06:08:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id GAA20817; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 06:08:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28519; Tue, 15 Jul 97 11:09:23 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 11:09:20 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from sue (sue.tees) by scorch; Tue, 15 Jul 97 11:11:02 BST Date: Tue, 15 Jul 97 11:10:40 BST Message-Id: <14690.9707151010@sue> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] token-ring Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, > Q. Will the drivers for your netcards let you put them into promiscuous > mode? > Isn't that rather a bad idea, security wise? From waht I've read of packet sniffers etc, this is a favoured method... later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 15 08:03:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id IAA07600; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 08:03:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA07596; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 08:02:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA02903; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 08:02:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA02897; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 08:02:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from email.cybergrafx.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA02889; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 08:02:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from arthur.rothwell.holly-springs.nc.us (rtp-nc10-08.ix.netcom.com [206.214.141.104]) by email.cybergrafx.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA24380; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 08:02:30 -0400 Message-Id: <199707151202.IAA24380@email.cybergrafx.com> From: "Michael Rothwell" To: , Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] token-ring Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 07:52:12 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I think I should have said "multicast" -- but if you can put a card into promiscuous mode, it should work with Netatalk. ---------- > From: John Barry -Technician > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] token-ring > Date: Tuesday, July 15, 1997 7:10 AM > > Hi, > > Q. Will the drivers for your netcards let you put them into promiscuous > > mode? > > > Isn't that rather a bad idea, security wise? From waht I've read of packet > sniffers etc, this is a favoured method... > later > jb From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 15 11:22:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA12116; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 11:22:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA12111; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 11:21:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA29643; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 11:21:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA29633; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 11:21:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA29627; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 11:21:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28171; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 08:10:12 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA21351; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 08:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 08:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707151504.IAA21351@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: stefan@promo.de CC: wrd@awenet.com, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Bethke on Tue, 15 Jul 1997 10:18:47 +0200) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Autoselect problem with asun mods Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu fyi, i already have a little test program. i don't see any difference between what i get on my machine (works) and what i get on bill's. furthermore, the mistakes should actually be in the direction of my machine (because it's little-endian) rather than bill's (which is big-endian). -a From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 15 20:29:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id UAA28136; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 20:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA28132; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 20:28:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA15827; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 20:28:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA15825; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 20:28:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news.netwiz.net by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA15821; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 20:28:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [207.171.206.94] ([207.171.206.94]) by news.netwiz.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25226 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 17:26:44 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 17:26:44 -0700 X-Sender: ost@netwiz.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Os Tyler Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk won't start Solaris 2.5.1 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Thanks to those of you who have sent helpful suggestions my way before. However, I seem to have moved a couple steps backward. Running 1.2b4 on Sparc4 with Solaris 2.5.1, from boot or from "/etc/init.d/atalk start" I get the message "atalkd: can't get interfaces, exiting." What might this mean? What can I do? Thanks, os From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 16 00:00:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id AAA04307; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 00:00:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id XAA04200; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA18862; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA18849; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:59:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from simon.pacific.net.sg by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA18821; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 23:59:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po3.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.73]) by simon.pacific.net.sg with ESMTP id LAA03868 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:59:52 +0800 (SGT) Received: from [192.168.1.20] ([210.24.80.104]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA4650 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 11:59:50 +0800 Message-ID: <33CC479C.7530@pacific.net.sg> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 12:01:37 +0800 From: Tan Chee Weei Reply-To: ctan@pacific.net.sg Organization: Personal X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] papd & Laserwriter Bridge Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am currently running Netatalk 1.3.3 with a 2.0.30 Kernel. I have been having problems with LaserWriter Bridge 2.1 running off a Mac 4400 (7220) which is used to bridge the localtalk network which the printer is connected to and the ethernet where the Linux netatalk server and other Mac clients are connected to. When papd is running on the Linux server, the printer is available in the Appleshare chooser directly as well as a printer spooled by the linux server. Netatalk makes use of LW Bridge to access the printer as well since it doesn't have the same capabilities as LW Bridge. Users have the option of selecting the printer in the Chooser directly or selecting the printer published by Netatalk which would provide spooling. The problem is that with this setup, the printer drops off the Ethernet after a while, despite LW Bridge. Clients on connected via ethernet could no longer see the printer but those on the localtalk net were still able to. I decided to disable papd so as not to publish the printer from the linux server and this seems to have solved the problem as so far, the printer continues to be available on the ethernet whereas it would usually have dropped off by now. I had originally wondered if LW Bridge was the culprit but it seems the configuration in conjunction with LW Bridge could be the likely cause. I thought that such a configuration (less LW Bridge) with a printer directly on the ethernet was supposed to work as indicated in the printer setup HOWTO. Should it continue to work with LW Bridge? Does anyone have an idea exactly why this would be a problem? Finally, is anyone aware of software for linux that performs the same function as LW Bridge, or better still, localtalk bridge, to bridge between a localtalk and ethernet network. This assumes the existence of a localtalk card and driver for linux on a Pentium board. Thanks in advance for any assistance. CW From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 16 04:43:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id EAA17728; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 04:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA17721; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 04:43:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA01891; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 04:42:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA01889; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 04:42:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA01877; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 04:42:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.148.12.12] (fx.pingnet.de [194.148.12.12]) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA26138 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:43:08 +0200 X-Sender: poc@dx4.pingnet.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <33CC479C.7530@pacific.net.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:42:59 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] papd & Laserwriter Bridge Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Should it continue to work with LW Bridge? Does anyone >have an idea exactly why this would be a problem? Short ago, there was an issue to patch ddp.c ind the Kernel to fix a similar= Bug. Unfortunaltely I cannot find further information about it. >Finally, is anyone aware of software for linux that performs >the same function as LW Bridge, or better still, localtalk bridge, >to bridge between a localtalk and ethernet network. This assumes >the existence of a localtalk card and driver for linux on a Pentium >board. You may get an used Apple LocalTalk PC Board. I stayed in tight contact with= the author of the corresponding driver, 'cause I had problems to use= netatalk as a router between LocalTalk and Ethernet. He thought, he got the= point but then the card won't initialize anymore in my system. With the DOS= driver, there is no problem, so I ought a initialisation problem with the= driver (the DOS driver also takes MUCH longer to initialize it). I don't speak C, so I cannot doit myself. Has anyone another LTPC Board and= the knowledge to debug, what the DOS driver does with it, to apply this to= the Linux driver? Gruss, PoC -- Administration PingNet.de Fon: 0761-700997 G=FCnterstalstra=DFe 20 Technik maccc Fax: 0761-700998 79100 Freiburg From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 16 09:59:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA17704; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:59:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA17698; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:59:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA01942; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:59:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA01934; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:58:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netguide.netguide.dk by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA01899; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:58:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [130.227.158.132] (pope.netguide.dk [130.227.158.132]) by netguide.netguide.dk (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA01695 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 15:58:46 +0200 X-Sender: pedersen@mail.netguide.dk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 15:59:14 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: "Povl H. Pedersen" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Linux trouble: No AT, only IP Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu First of all: I have had no problems with 1.4b2, and reinstalling that one with my current configuration file works. I installed the netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a12 on my Linux machine, applied the kernel patches to 2.0.30, and added the necesary defines in the linux makefile (defined the need quota wrapper and byteorder symbold). I can get it to work perfectly over pure TCP - can not see it in chooser though. But I can not get it to work under AppleTalk - It does not appear in the chooser on my older Macs, neither on my system 8 Mac. I have the following in my logifle for the startup: Jul 16 15:14:32 netguide kernel: Appletalk 0.17 for Linux NET3.035 Jul 16 15:14:32 netguide atalkd[4472]: restart (1.4b2+asun2.0a12) Jul 16 15:14:33 netguide atalkd[4472]: zip_getnetinfo for eth2 Jul 16 15:14:33 netguide atalkd[4472]: rtmp_packet interface mismatch Jul 16 15:14:33 netguide atalkd[4472]: zip gnireply from 12.84 (eth2 1a) Jul 16 15:14:33 netguide atalkd[4472]: zip_packet configured eth2 from 12.84 Jul 16 15:14:34 netguide atalkd[4472]: zip_getnetinfo for eth1 Jul 16 15:14:34 netguide atalkd[4472]: zip gnireply from 46.173 (eth2 ba) Jul 16 15:14:34 netguide atalkd[4472]: zip ignoring gnireply Jul 16 15:14:41 netguide atalkd[4472]: rtmp_packet gateway 12.84 up Jul 16 15:14:42 netguide atalkd[4472]: zip_getnetinfo for eth1 Jul 16 15:14:43 netguide atalkd[4472]: rtmp_packet gateway 46.173 up Jul 16 15:14:52 netguide atalkd[4472]: zip_getnetinfo for eth1 Jul 16 15:15:02 netguide atalkd[4472]: as_timer configured eth1 phase 2 from seed Jul 16 15:15:15 netguide papd[4496]: restart (1.4b2+asun2.0a12) Jul 16 15:15:21 netguide papd[4496]: register netguide:LaserWriter@* Jul 16 15:15:21 netguide afpd[4498]: netguide:AFPServer@Edu-Netguide started on 54.112:130 (1.4b2+asun2.0a12) Jul 16 15:15:21 netguide afpd[4498]: ASIP started on 130.227.158.2:548(1) (1.4b2+asun2.0a12) According to this, it should have gistered itself on the Edu-NetGuide zone, but it has not. npblkup gives me: [root@netguide etc]# ../bin/nbplkup @Undervisning [root@netguide etc]# ../bin/nbplkup @Edu-NetGuide netguide:LaserWriter 54.112:128 netguide:netatalk 54.112:4 netguide:Workstation 54.112:4 So there is definitely something wrong. It places the network adresses in the wrong zone ! And does not show the other entries in this zone. The 1.4b2 works perfectly. So I have returned to that for the time being Atalkd.conf contains: eth2 -seed -phase 2 -net 1-49 -addr 10.112 -zone "Edu-NetGuide" eth1 -seed -phase 2 -net 50-99 -addr 54.112 -zone "Undervisning" --- Povl H. Pedersen NetGuide Scandinavia AB Phone: +45 8618 1823 Cellular: +45 4093 5511 Fax: +45 8612 4680 Homepage: http://www.netguide.dk/~pope / e-mail: mailto:pope@netguide.dk Macintosh/UNIX/Windows specialist. Microsoft Certified Professional From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 16 13:20:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA29519; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 13:20:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA29514; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 13:20:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA19305; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 13:20:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA19294; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 13:20:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA19278; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 13:20:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03198; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:19:44 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA23879; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:19:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 10:19:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707161719.KAA23879@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: pope@netguide.dk CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (pope@netguide.dk) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Linux trouble: No AT, only IP Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu get a12-patchlet-2.gz from ftp.u.washington.edu. i didn't realize that libc5's netinet/in.h doesn't end up including endian.h. the problems you're experiencing look like byte-order problems as a consequence. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 16 19:44:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id TAA11226; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 19:44:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA11222; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 19:44:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA23629; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 19:44:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA23626; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 19:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from onshore.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA23620; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 19:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [206.69.90.21] (tofu.onshore.com [206.69.90.21]) by onshore.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA13001 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 18:44:42 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 18:40:38 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Stelios Valavanis Subject: [netatalk-admins] latest ashare IP compatible netatalk Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu where can i get the latest appleshareIP comapatible version of netatalk. i understand it's in beta right now. _________________________________________________________ stel valavanis mailto:stel@onShore.com http://www.onShore.com/ From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 17 07:39:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id HAA22898; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 07:39:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA22894; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 07:39:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA22354; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 07:38:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA22347; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 07:38:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chava.netmedia.net.il by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA22343; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 07:38:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leyada.jlm.k12.il ([192.115.119.3]) by chava.netmedia.net.il (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04284 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 14:39:59 +0200 (IST) Received: from MIN4100/MAIL_Q by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 17 Jul 97 14:38:59 +0200 Received: from MAIL_Q by MIN4100 (Mercury 1.21); 17 Jul 97 14:38:28 +0200 Received: from tycoon by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 17 Jul 97 14:38:24 +0200 Message-ID: <33CE0404.2781E494@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 14:37:40 +0300 From: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" Organization: Hebrew University High School X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk Admins Mailing List Subject: [netatalk-admins] Disabling access from users. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is there any way to disable , for examle, use of netatalk by a specific user/group? Is there any way to "force" a specific user for a global share (samba has this), meaning that if I have a share "/myshare" in my system's global AppleVolumes file, can I tell netatalk "no matter which user logs in, let him user files according to "ausers" user privilages? Is there any way to make a share "read only" for all users? (also available in samba). For all of the above, if there isn't a way, how complicated is it to make a way / is there a patch expected? Thanks, Bye, Yannai. -- Yannai A. Gonczarowski System Administrator yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il The Hebrew University High School http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/~yannaigo/ "Do you want to know something? Everybody's human." "I find that remark insulting." - Kirk and Spock, "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered contry", stardate 9529.1 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 17 13:43:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA06634; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 13:43:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA06627; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 13:43:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA22832; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 13:43:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA22824; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 13:43:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id NAA22778; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 13:43:10 -0400 (EDT) From: cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18539; Thu, 17 Jul 97 18:42:59 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 18:42:55 +0100 Received: from luigi (luigi.tees) by scorch; Thu, 17 Jul 97 18:44:38 BST Date: Thu, 17 Jul 97 18:45:40 BST Message-Id: <1472.9707171745@luigi> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] LW 8.4.1 problems Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu People, This is more of a Mac problem than netatalk, but here goes, I'm trying, (without success at present) to upgrade the printer drivers from 8.3.2 (which works) to 8.4.1 (which won't) It installed cleanly enough, but when I try to create a printer on the desktop it either, causes a type 11 error, or with QD3D 1.5, starts to put up the select PPD box then locks out, cmd+option+esc has no effect, I have to use cmd+ctrl+ powerdown to reset. After restart the printer icon appears on the desktop, but the apple printer utility wont let you open a printer, claiming that the printer could not be found on the network, even though they show up in the chooser, and I can use autosetup from the 8.3.2 driver & the 8.4.3 driver from system 8. Any ideas? I'm running 7.5.5 later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 17 16:31:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id QAA12502; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 16:31:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA12489; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 16:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA25947; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 16:31:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA25944; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 16:31:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news.netwiz.net by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA25924; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 16:31:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [207.171.206.89] ([207.171.206.89]) by news.netwiz.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03257 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 13:28:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 13:28:39 -0700 X-Sender: ost@netwiz.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Os Tyler Subject: [netatalk-admins] progress, but afpd does not start Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Once again, thanks to those of you willing to field this novice's queries. Solaris 2.5.1 on Sparc4 (netatalk 1.2b4) The afpd doesn't start. Should /usr/local/atalk/etc contain an afpd directory? Whould "where afpd" achieve some result? The trailing note on the make install says not to forget to call rc.atalk from etc/rc. How do I do that? Thanks for your patience and help, os From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jul 19 04:48:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id EAA24084; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 04:48:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA24080; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 04:48:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA08808; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 04:48:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA08806; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 04:48:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chava.netmedia.net.il by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA08802; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 04:48:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leyada.jlm.k12.il ([192.115.119.3]) by chava.netmedia.net.il (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16944 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 11:48:57 +0200 (IST) Received: from MIN4100/MAIL_Q by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 19 Jul 97 11:48:53 +0200 Received: from MAIL_Q by MIN4100 (Mercury 1.21); 19 Jul 97 11:48:21 +0200 Received: from tycoon by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 19 Jul 97 11:48:15 +0200 Message-ID: <33D07EEB.41C67EA6@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 11:46:35 +0300 From: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" Organization: Hebrew University High School X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk Admins Mailing List Subject: [netatalk-admins] FAT and 68k Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Can anyone tell me what's the difference between a 68k binary and a FAT binary, and if my MAC runs them both, which should I use? (I have noticed that 68k binaries often take less disk space, but leave that aside, are there any performance differences?) Thanks, Bye, Yannai. -- Yannai A. Gonczarowski System Administrator yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il The Hebrew University High School http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/~yannaigo/ "Do you want to know something? Everybody's human." "I find that remark insulting." - Kirk and Spock, "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered contry", stardate 9529.1 From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jul 19 05:42:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id FAA08173; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 05:42:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id FAA08169; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 05:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA11337; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 05:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA11335; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 05:42:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tootingbec.powervue.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id FAA11331; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 05:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tootingbec.powervue.com (tootingbec.powervue.com [192.168.2.38]) by tootingbec.powervue.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA00498; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 05:38:42 -0400 Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 05:38:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Gutowski To: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" cc: Netatalk Admins Mailing List Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] FAT and 68k In-Reply-To: <33D07EEB.41C67EA6@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Fat binaries contain 68k code resources in the resource forks *and* power pc native code in its data fork. On a 68k machine, the "normal" 68k code would be executed and on power pc hardware, the sytem would first look for executable application code in the data fork (there is also a resource present the also flags the existence of this power pc code). If a power pc machine does not find native ppc code, it uses the its 68k emulation to run the 68k code, theoretically with some performance penalty. 68k binaries do not have any ppc code in the data fork. A powerpc system runs fastest when executing native ppc code. Unfortunately, so much of the low level OS is still 68k code (and will remain so even with the upcoming 8.0 release) so that the potential power of the ppc's risc processor is still pretty much untapped. This is even more distressing since Apple et al have been selling ppc machines now for 4 or 5 yesrs! And finally, because simply changing between executing ppc code and 68k code involves some change-over time, performance is further robbed. The net result is that PPCs *are* faster, but have the potential of being *very much* faster than they can run right now. Peter Gutowski email: peterg@powervue.com http://www.powervue.com/~peterg On Sat, 19 Jul 1997, Yannai A. Gonczarowski wrote: > Can anyone tell me what's the difference between a 68k binary and a FAT > binary, and if my MAC runs them both, which should I use? (I have > noticed that 68k binaries often take less disk space, but leave that > aside, are there any performance differences?) > > Thanks, > Bye, > Yannai. > > -- > Yannai A. Gonczarowski System Administrator > yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il > The Hebrew University High School > http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/~yannaigo/ > > "Do you want to know something? Everybody's human." > "I find that remark insulting." > - Kirk and Spock, "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered contry", stardate > 9529.1 > From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jul 19 11:30:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA10639; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 11:30:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA10635; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 11:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA08697; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 11:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA08693; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 11:30:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chava.netmedia.net.il by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA08689; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 11:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leyada.jlm.k12.il ([192.115.119.3]) by chava.netmedia.net.il (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA18231 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 18:31:17 +0200 (IST) Received: from MIN4100/MAIL_Q by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 19 Jul 97 18:31:19 +0200 Received: from MAIL_Q by MIN4100 (Mercury 1.21); 19 Jul 97 18:30:36 +0200 Received: from tycoon by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 19 Jul 97 18:30:25 +0200 Message-ID: <33D0DD28.41C67EA6@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 18:28:40 +0300 From: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" Organization: Hebrew University High School X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk Admins Mailing List Subject: [netatalk-admins] Unix-Authentication of FTP passwords Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I need to authenticate (with a unix machine) users trying to FTP to my MAC (passwords typed by users ftp-ing to my MAC, will be authenticated using a unix machine). I am currently evaluating FTPd 3.0 for the MAC as a ftp server, however it uses the users and groups database for authentication. Is there a replacement for the users and groups database that uses NIS, or some other form of remote-unix authentication? If not, can any of you think of another way to do remote-ftp authentication? Is there another FTP server that does that kind of stuff? Ny unix supports NIS, netatalk, samba, pcnfsd, and almost any kind of password-authentication protocol. P.S. I need a solution that is shareware/freeware. P.P.S. I check MacLogin, and it doesn't have the needed capabilitied. Thanks, Bye, Yannai. -- Yannai A. Gonczarowski System Administrator yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il The Hebrew University High School http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/~yannaigo/ "Do you want to know something? Everybody's human." "I find that remark insulting." - Kirk and Spock, "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered contry", stardate 9529.1 From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jul 19 12:17:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA11398; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:17:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA11394; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:17:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAB18888; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:16:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA18886; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:16:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chava.netmedia.net.il by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA18877; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 12:16:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leyada.jlm.k12.il ([192.115.119.3]) by chava.netmedia.net.il (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA18421 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 19:17:54 +0200 (IST) Received: from MIN4100/MAIL_Q by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 19 Jul 97 19:17:58 +0200 Received: from MAIL_Q by MIN4100 (Mercury 1.21); 19 Jul 97 19:17:04 +0200 Received: from tycoon by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 19 Jul 97 19:16:52 +0200 Message-ID: <33D0E80A.2781E494@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 19:15:06 +0300 From: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" Organization: Hebrew University High School X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk Admins Mailing List Subject: [netatalk-admins] Read-Only mounting and User Forcing (patch suggestion(?)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I know it isn't possible to mount a share read-only (like in nfs, or smb), or to force privilages of a specific user, when another user is connected (even if you are connected as user , your privilages will be those of when connecting to a specific share). The former should not be too hard to do, the latter, is a little risky, so will only be allowed to be used in global AppleVolumes files, and not in user-specific files. Does anyone who knows the source-code parts of file-privilages, have an idea of which is easier to do (probably the first), or how to do it (what to change in the source)? I suggest that another optional field will be added to the AppleVolumes files, replacing (quote from man page): pathname [ volumename ] .extension [ type [ creator ] ] with: pathname [ volumename ] [ ro ] .extension [ type [ creator ] ] Any ideas on how to do that? (I know c, although I really do not know the source code, and appletalk). Bye, Yannai. -- Yannai A. Gonczarowski System Administrator yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il The Hebrew University High School http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/~yannaigo/ "Do you want to know something? Everybody's human." "I find that remark insulting." - Kirk and Spock, "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered contry", stardate 9529.1 From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 20 12:17:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA00432; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 12:17:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA00419; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 12:17:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA09969; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 12:17:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA09964; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 12:16:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id MAA09957; Sun, 20 Jul 1997 12:16:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ramsey.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.3]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa0629351; 20 Jul 97 16:32 BST Subject: [netatalk-admins] LocalTalk - possible? Date: Sun, 20 Jul 97 16:36:39 -0000 x-sender: owen+ramsey@pop3.demon.co.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Owen Waller To: netatalk@umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu MMDF-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at punt-2.mail.demon.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <869412743.0629351.0@ramsey.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu hi, According to the netatalk WWW pages, it's possible to extend netatlk so that it runs over different network types, FDDI and PPP are given as the examples on the WWW. So, does anybody know how difficult it would be to support Localtalk (i.e. Appletalk over a serial line). Specifically in my case to support printing (filesharing I'm not worried about) on a PowerMac running Linux. Neither PowerMac kernel supports locatalk printing yet which to me seems silly given the huge number of localtalk printers out there. Any thoughts on how difficult this is, and where I need to start. Cheers From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 21 06:31:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id GAA08644; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 06:31:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA08634; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 06:31:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA02783; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 06:30:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA02781; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 06:30:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id GAA02771; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 06:30:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from grace.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (grace.rob.cs.tu-bs.de [134.169.36.33]) by dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA13072; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:31:19 +0200 Received: by grace.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA03553; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:31:16 +0200 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:31:16 +0200 Message-Id: <199707211031.MAA03553@grace.rob.cs.tu-bs.de> From: Mario Klebsch DG1AM To: owen@ramsey.demon.co.uk CC: netatalk@umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <869412743.0629351.0@ramsey.demon.co.uk> (message from Owen Waller on Sun, 20 Jul 97 16:36:39 -0000) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] LocalTalk - possible? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! >So, does anybody know how difficult it would be to support Localtalk >(i.e. Appletalk over a serial line). The hardest part probably is the hardware. The Mac uses a Zilog USART while most PCs only have an UART (not capable of doing synchronous transfers). The next problem probably is speed. localtalk runs at 307 kbaud. On the Mac they have to use polling of the USART to achieve this speed. So to get is working on a PC you probably need some special hardware containing a Zilog USART and a processor doing the polling. 73, Mario -- Mario Klebsch, DG1AM, M.Klebsch@tu-bs.de +49 531 / 391 - 7457 Institut fuer Robotik und Prozessinformatik der TU Braunschweig Hamburger Strasse 267, 38114 Braunschweig, Germany From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 21 07:56:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id HAA09795; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 07:56:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA09791; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 07:56:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA10566; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 07:55:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA10562; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 07:55:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA10557; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 07:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from schubert.promo.de by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA10998; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 07:56:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24715; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 13:46:52 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199707211031.MAA03553@grace.rob.cs.tu-bs.de> References: <869412743.0629351.0@ramsey.demon.co.uk> (message from Owen Waller on Sun, 20 Jul 97 16:36:39 -0000) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 13:51:16 +0200 To: Mario Klebsch DG1AM , owen@ramsey.demon.co.uk From: Stefan Bethke Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] LocalTalk - possible? Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 12:31 Uhr +0200 21.07.1997, Mario Klebsch DG1AM wrote: >Hi! > >>So, does anybody know how difficult it would be to support Localtalk >>(i.e. Appletalk over a serial line). > >The hardest part probably is the hardware. The Mac uses a Zilog USART >while most PCs only have an UART (not capable of doing synchronous >transfers). The next problem probably is speed. localtalk runs at 307 230,4 kilobit per second >kbaud. On the Mac they have to use polling of the USART to achieve >this speed. > >So to get is working on a PC you probably need some special hardware >containing a Zilog USART and a processor doing the polling. Probably. Unless you already have some old LocalTalk card, it might be easier and cheaper to buy an Ethernet/LocalTalk bridge (Dayna, Asante, lots of others). The only LT card currently sold, I believe, is from COPS. There used to be a driver for the old LocalTalk PC card from Apple for Linux, but I don't know it's status. Recently, someone ported the driver to FreeBSD; we'll have to see how good it works. Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-0 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 21 08:15:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id IAA10374; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:15:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA10369; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:15:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA15092; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:15:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA15089; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:15:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA15071; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:15:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.7.3) id OAA03418; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 14:15:14 +0200 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 14:15:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] LocalTalk - possible? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > There used to be a driver for the old LocalTalk PC card from Apple for > Linux, but I don't know it's status. Recently, someone ported the driver to > FreeBSD; we'll have to see how good it works. Look yourself: http://www.math.umn.edu/~bradford/ltpc.html From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 21 08:16:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id IAA10554; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:16:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA10533; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:16:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA14619; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA14617; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:15:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id IAA14611; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:15:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02811; Mon, 21 Jul 97 13:16:42 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 13:15:46 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from sonic (sonic.tees) by scorch; Mon, 21 Jul 97 09:34:20 BST Date: Mon, 21 Jul 97 09:33:59 BST Message-Id: <19018.9707210833@sonic> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] appologies Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folks, It would appear that a power outage killed our mail machine over the weekend, so I'll appologise now for any bounced mail... later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 21 08:28:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id IAA11330; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA11295; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA18401; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:28:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA18397; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:28:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server.proxy.com by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id IAA18372; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:28:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [199.212.225.34] by server.proxy.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0wqHYz-00075LC; Mon, 21 Jul 97 08:27 EDT X-Sender: becker@mail.proxy.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199707211031.MAA03553@grace.rob.cs.tu-bs.de> References: <869412743.0629351.0@ramsey.demon.co.uk> (message from Owen Waller on Sun, 20 Jul 97 16:36:39 -0000) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:25:23 -0400 To: Mario Klebsch DG1AM From: Bernard Becker Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] LocalTalk - possible? Cc: netatalk@umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Mario Klebsch DG1AM wrote: >The hardest part probably is the hardware. The Mac uses a Zilog USART >while most PCs only have an UART (not capable of doing synchronous >transfers). The next problem probably is speed. localtalk runs at 307 >kbaud. On the Mac they have to use polling of the USART to achieve >this speed. LocalTalk runs at 230.4 KB There are ISA LocalTalk Cards that still may be available. Apple made one, Farallon made one as did Dayna. They may still be manufactured. This will give the h/w to emulate localtalk. Novell even had drivers at one point that supported these cards. As for drivers under UNIX, your on your own. I may even have one of those old cards lieing around somewhere. I can look if anyone is interested. Bernard Becker Sr.Systems Engineer Apple Canada Inc. becker@apple.com 7495 Birchmount Road Markham, Ontario, Canada L3R 5G2 TEL. 905-513-5844 FAX. 905-513-5793 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 21 08:45:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id IAA12054; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:45:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA12050; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:45:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA22375; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:44:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA22363; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:44:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA22349; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 08:44:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.7.3) id OAA03603; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 14:45:35 +0200 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 14:45:34 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] LocalTalk - possible? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Novell even had drivers at one point that supported these cards. They ONLY supported the Dayna Card. PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 21 11:01:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA15150; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 11:01:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA15138; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 11:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA16462; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 11:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA16454; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 11:01:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gryphon.ccs.brandeis.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA16442; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 11:01:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (grath@localhost) by gryphon.ccs.brandeis.edu (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA12959; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 10:57:15 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 10:57:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jeremy A. Gilbert" Reply-To: Jeremy Gilbert To: Bernard Becker cc: Mario Klebsch DG1AM , netatalk@umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] LocalTalk - possible? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > LocalTalk runs at 230.4 KB > There are ISA LocalTalk Cards that still may be available. Apple made one, > Farallon made one as did Dayna. They may still be manufactured. This will > give the h/w to emulate localtalk. > > As for drivers under UNIX, your on your own. Not if you use Linux. :) Linux will do it if you use Brad's drivers and an Apple localtalk board. Last year I had a linux box up for a couple of months on my school's localtalk network. I had a file and print server running as well as IP over DDP. I never got more than about 12 K/s even though my mac was humming at 18 K/s on the same connection. :) But aside from that, it worked great. The ony time I crashed it was when I tried to use it as a port on a masquerading firewall. :) Jeremy -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ Jeremy Gilbert grath@gryphon.ccs.brandeis.edu + Webmaster & UNIX Systems Support grath@mail.cs.brandeis.edu + Department of Computer Science + Brandeis University http://gryphon.ccs.brandeis.edu/~grath + -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 21 12:34:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA18220; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:34:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA18216; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:34:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA24940; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:34:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA24927; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:34:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tsd.lick-my.org by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA24835; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:33:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (happywd@localhost) by tsd.lick-my.org (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA28779; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 11:32:35 -0500 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 11:32:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Happy Weed To: Stefan Bethke cc: Mario Klebsch DG1AM , owen@ramsey.demon.co.uk, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] LocalTalk - possible? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu would anyone know where to find this driver, since I now own of those appletalk cards for my computer. On Mon, 21 Jul 1997, Stefan Bethke wrote: > At 12:31 Uhr +0200 21.07.1997, Mario Klebsch DG1AM wrote: > >Hi! > > > >>So, does anybody know how difficult it would be to support Localtalk > >>(i.e. Appletalk over a serial line). > > > >The hardest part probably is the hardware. The Mac uses a Zilog USART > >while most PCs only have an UART (not capable of doing synchronous > >transfers). The next problem probably is speed. localtalk runs at 307 > 230,4 kilobit per second > > >kbaud. On the Mac they have to use polling of the USART to achieve > >this speed. > > > >So to get is working on a PC you probably need some special hardware > >containing a Zilog USART and a processor doing the polling. > > Probably. Unless you already have some old LocalTalk card, it might be > easier and cheaper to buy an Ethernet/LocalTalk bridge (Dayna, Asante, lots > of others). The only LT card currently sold, I believe, is from COPS. > > There used to be a driver for the old LocalTalk PC card from Apple for > Linux, but I don't know it's status. Recently, someone ported the driver to > FreeBSD; we'll have to see how good it works. > > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Bethke > Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-0 > + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 > Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE > D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ > > From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 21 12:42:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA18408; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:42:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA18404; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:42:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA19529; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:41:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA19522; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:41:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chava.netmedia.net.il by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA19492; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:41:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leyada.jlm.k12.il ([192.115.119.3]) by chava.netmedia.net.il (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29323; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 19:42:45 +0200 (IST) Received: from MIN4100/MAIL_Q by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 21 Jul 97 19:40:45 +0200 Received: from MAIL_Q by MIN4100 (Mercury 1.21); 21 Jul 97 19:39:47 +0200 Received: from tycoon by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.21); 21 Jul 97 19:39:38 +0200 Message-ID: <33D390D8.41C67EA6@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 19:39:52 +0300 From: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" Organization: Hebrew University High School X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk CC: Netatalk Admins Mailing List Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Unix-Authentication of FTP passwords References: <991.9707211338@luigi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk wrote: > > > > > P.S. > > I need a solution that is shareware/freeware. > > > > have uou tried netpresenz (I think it's spelled like that...) > later > jb Well, the server I said I am reviewing as NetPresenz (FTPd is an older name for the same thing). And it authenticates users using the Users and Groups control panel, while I want to authenticate via NIS/appleshare/pcnfs/something like that. Thanks anyway, Bye, Yannai. -- Yannai A. Gonczarowski System Administrator yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il The Hebrew University High School http://www.leyada.jlm.k12.il/~yannaigo/ "Do you want to know something? Everybody's human." "I find that remark insulting." - Kirk and Spock, "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered contry", stardate 9529.1 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 21 12:46:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA18719; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:46:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA18694; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA29298; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:46:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA29295; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:46:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from schubert.promo.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA29275; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:46:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA26161; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 18:31:18 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 18:35:42 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org From: Stefan Bethke Subject: [netatalk-admins] [ANNOUNCE] MacIP Gateway for FreeBSD - 1st beta release Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is the first beta release of macipgw, a MacIP gateway for FreeBSD, available for downlooad from http://www.promo.de/pub/people/stefan/netatalk/macipgw-1.0b1.tar.gz or ftp://ftp.promo.de/pub/people/stefan/netatalk/macipgw-1.0b1.tar.gz MacIP is a protocol that allows the encapsulation of IP packets in AppleTalk packets, thus allowing Macs connected through an AppleTalk-only network (such as LocalTalk or Apple Remote Access) to use TCP/IP-based services. To use macipgw, you need FreeBSD 2.1.5 or newer with AppleTalk kernel patches (see ftp://ftp.promo.de/pub/people/stefan/netatalk/) or FreeBSD 2.2.1 or newer. Also, you'll need one tunnel device for macipgw, see tun(4) for details. Please direct questions, comments, diffs to . -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-0 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 21 15:25:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA25540; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 15:25:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA25526; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 15:25:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA22361; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 15:24:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA22352; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 15:24:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pop.winterlan.com by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA22297; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 15:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707211924.PAA22297@redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 15:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keypress142.keypress.com ([206.29.167.142]) by pop.winterlan.com (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-10321) with SMTP id AAA381; Mon, 21 Jul 1997 12:24:52 -0700 From: Gavin Peters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, Kirk Swenson Subject: [netatalk-admins] Corruption using netatalk 1.3.3 X-Mailer: VM 6.30 under Emacs 19.34.1 X-Attribution: gavin Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu We're running netatalk 1.3.3 under Linux, and we're getting two distinct types of file corruption at our site when doing copies using finder. We are using our own build of netatalk with CRLF translation off (this really belongs in a command line argument.) Text files are occasionally truncated when copied off. Other times, data from other text files is appended to such a truncated file. Other times, copies work fine. This behaviour has only been observed with text files. Has anyone else seen anything like this? Will going up to 1.4b2 fix this? Our server is pretty much unusable in this state. - Gavin From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 22 04:22:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id EAA24152; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 04:22:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA24148; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 04:22:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA03889; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 04:22:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA03887; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 04:22:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA03879; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 04:22:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.7.3) id KAA24774; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 10:22:27 +0200 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 10:22:26 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] LocalTalk - possible? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > would anyone know where to find this driver, since I now own of those > appletalk cards for my computer. http://www.math.um.edu/~bradford/ltpc.html PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 22 04:27:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id EAA24372; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 04:27:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA24368; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 04:27:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA19361; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 04:26:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA19358; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 04:26:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA19349; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 04:26:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.7.3) id KAA24808; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 10:27:35 +0200 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 10:27:35 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Corruption using netatalk 1.3.3 In-Reply-To: <199707211924.PAA22297@redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > We're running netatalk 1.3.3 under Linux, and we're getting two > distinct types of file corruption at our site when doing copies using > finder. We are using our own build of netatalk with CRLF translation > off (this really belongs in a command line argument.) Are you really sure that you are running the non-CRLF afpd? Shut down AppleTalk services and replace the daemon then. Or do it in singleuser mode. Safer Hex ;-) PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 22 05:12:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id FAA25638; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 05:12:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id FAA25634; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 05:11:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA22684; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 05:11:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA22682; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 05:11:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id FAA22671; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 05:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from schubert.promo.de by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id FAA25505; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 05:11:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28506; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 11:02:20 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 11:06:46 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org From: Stefan Bethke Subject: [netatalk-admins] [ANNOUNCE] MacIP Gateway for FreeBSD - 2nd beta release Cc: Ian Stephenson , Raul Zighelboim Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Yep, so much for "release engineering"... ABOUT MACIPGW ============= This is the 2nd beta release of macipgw, a MacIP gateway for FreeBSD. MacIP is a protocol that allows the encapsulation of IP packets in AppleTalk packets, thus allowing Macs connected through an AppleTalk-only network (such as LocalTalk or Appe Remote Access) to use TCP/IP-based services. To use macipgw, you need FreeBSD 2.1.5 or newer with AppleTalk kernel patches (see ftp://ftp.promo.de/people/stefan/netatalk/) or FreeBSD 2.2.1 or newer. Also, you'll need to install netatalk 1.4b2 or later. Also, you'll need one tunnel device for macipgw, see tun(4) for details. Please direct questions, comments, diffs to . The latest beta version of macipgw can be found at ftp://ftp.promo.de/pub/people/stefan/netatalk/ http://www.promo.de/pub/people/stefan/netatalk/ July 22, 1997, Stefan Bethke WHATS NEW ========= New in 1.0b2: - Fixed a compiler warning in macip.c - -z zone now does what it is supposed to do - now works correctly if there are no zones The whole idea of the gateway being a router and handling ICMP is crap; it will be removed in a later release. INSTALLING ========== A `make depend all install' as root should work. If you have installed the netatalk include files (atalk) neither in /usr/include nor in /usr/local/include, adapt the Makefile appropiatly. Please see the man page macipgw(8) for details on how to start macipgw. Cheers, Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-0 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 22 07:53:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id HAA11207; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 07:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA11198; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 07:53:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA06565; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 07:52:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA06559; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 07:52:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from afrika.iit.upco.es by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA06548; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 07:52:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (jorgegv@localhost) by afrika.iit.upco.es (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA02647 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 13:52:21 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: afrika.iit.upco.es: jorgegv owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 13:52:20 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jorge Gonzalez To: Netatalk Admins Subject: [netatalk-admins] Does Netatalk follow symlinks? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi everyone, I've just subscribed to the list, and I have grep'ped through the list archive, but I didn't find anything about my problem. The situation is the following: I have two users, A and B, who wish to share a directory inside one of thei= r homes. A gives rw permission to the group A and B belong to, so B can acces= s the directory, although it's inside A's home directory. All fine. Then B decides that he wants to be comfortable, so he symlinks the shared director= y from A's home to his. All fine again. In UNIX, B can access A's shared directory without a glitch, just cd'ing to it, following the symlink. But wait, B is the proud owner of a Mac, so he wished he could access files in the shared directory with Netatalk. Netatalk then decides that... he has not enough rights to do it, even though he does, in fact. Does anyone know if Netatalk has any problems following symlinks, or can it be configured through some option I didn't see in the manpage?? Thank you, and sorry for the prose, I got inspired today... ;-DDDDD -- Jorge Gonz=E1lez Villalonga =20 Instituto de Investigaci=F3n Tecnol=F3gica - UPCo --- Madrid (SPAIN) http://www.iit.upco.es/~jorgegv/ Phone: +34 15 41 96 41 --- Fax: +34 15 42 31 76 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 22 08:33:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id IAA13084; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 08:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA13077; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 08:33:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA15913; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 08:32:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA15894; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 08:32:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id IAA15865; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 08:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15000; Tue, 22 Jul 97 13:32:50 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 13:32:46 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from sue (sue.tees) by scorch; Tue, 22 Jul 97 13:34:33 BST Date: Tue, 22 Jul 97 13:34:04 BST Message-Id: <4815.9707221234@sue> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Does Netatalk follow symlinks? Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, > Does anyone know if Netatalk has any problems following symlinks, or can it > be configured through some option I didn't see in the manpage?? > I used to have a problem with symbolic links, netatalk wouldn't even follow one that linked to something in the same directory, for some reason this seems to have cured itself, might be arian's mods, (though I seem to recall it working properly before that.) In any event, symbolic links now works correctly, both within a directory and across filesystems/partitions, including ownership settings, etc. Unlike printing (but that's another story :) later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 22 08:34:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id IAA13256; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 08:34:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA13246; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 08:34:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA16629; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 08:33:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA16626; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 08:33:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id IAA16614; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 08:33:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU (5.83--+1.3.1+0.51) id AA08333; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 22:34:45 +1000 (from bhat) From: Tim Bell Message-Id: <9707221234.8333@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Subject: [netatalk-admins] clients dying with asp_alrm To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 22:34:44 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm running Debian Linux 1.3.1 (kernel 2.0.29) with the Debian netatalk package 1.4b2-4. I've got a problem with clients losing Appleshare connections, and not being able to reconnect. The only evidence I can see is entries in the logs like this: Jul 22 22:03:58 wibble afpd[20813]: asp_alrm: 21098 timed out I've had a quick look through the list archives, but I couldn't find anything relevant to this problem. Any hints on what's going on would be greatly appreciated. -- Tim Bell .--_|\ bhat@cs.mu.oz.au / \ Department of Computer Science \_.--._/ University of Melbourne, Australia v From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 22 14:01:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA24797; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 14:01:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA24779; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 14:01:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA10037; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 14:01:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA10007; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 14:01:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.cs.hmc.edu by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA09976; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 14:01:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (quay@localhost) by turing.cs.hmc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA22180 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 11:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 11:01:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Quay Ly X-Sender: quay@turing Reply-To: Quay Ly To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk problem on solaris 2.5.1 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello. For some reason, the atalkd daemon would die every so often on my solaris box. Here's a clip of the messages/log that atalkd dumps: --- Jul 22 02:29:18 church atalkd[180]: route: 31810 -> 1221.104: No such file or directory Jul 22 02:29:18 church atalkd[180]: route: 31811 -> 1221.104: No such file or directory Jul 22 02:32:42 church atalkd[180]: rtmp_packet: can't remove loopback: No such file or directory Jul 22 02:32:45 church atalkd[180]: looproute panic two routes --- Do anyone have any idea why this happens or how do I go about fixing this? The logs said "No such file or directory", what file or directory are they talking about? -quay@cs.hmc.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 22 15:49:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA29531; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 15:49:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA29517; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 15:49:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA03232 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 15:48:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA03225 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 15:48:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cc00mh.unity.ncsu.edu (cc00mh.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.1.172]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA03215 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 15:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [152.1.11.13] (ivanova.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.11.13]) by cc00mh.unity.ncsu.edu (8.8.4/US19Dec96) with ESMTP id PAA03273 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 15:49:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: user@hesiod (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 15:49:24 -0400 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Everette G Allen Subject: [netatalk-admins] kerberos and papd... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am having a problem with papd under 1.3.3 not finding the ka#1 entry in printcap to recognize that it needs to do kerberos authentication. What is different is that when parsing printcap in main.c for papd a call to pgetflag is used to look for ka while a series of tests using pgetstr is used for the rest. Code follows: /* * Must Kerberos authenticate? */ syslog(LOG_ERR,"before ka for %s",pr->p_printer); if ( pgetflag( "ka" ) == 1 ) { syslog(LOG_ERR,"AUTH = 1"); pr->p_flags |= P_AUTH; } else { syslog(LOG_ERR,"AUTH = 0"); pr->p_flags &= ~P_AUTH; } (Note: syslog is always getting AUTH=0 in binary) as opposed to say /* * Is accounting on? */ a = area; if ( pgetstr( "af", &a ) == NULL ) { pr->p_flags &= ~P_ACCOUNT; } else { pr->p_flags |= P_ACCOUNT; } Why the difference? Everette Gray Allen Consultant IV Box 7109 NCState Campus Computing Services Raleigh, NC 27695-7109 919-515-2517 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 22 19:38:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id TAA04865; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 19:38:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA04835; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 19:38:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA11745 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 19:37:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA11743 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 19:37:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA11739 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 19:37:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id QAA33997; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 16:38:14 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 16:38:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: Jorge Gonzalez cc: Netatalk Admins Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Does Netatalk follow symlinks? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, Jorge Gonzalez wrote: > I have two users, A and B, who wish to share a directory inside one of their > homes. A gives rw permission to the group A and B belong to, so B can access > the directory, although it's inside A's home directory. All fine. Then B > decides that he wants to be comfortable, so he symlinks the shared directory > from A's home to his. All fine again. In UNIX, B can access A's shared > directory without a glitch, just cd'ing to it, following the symlink. You might try having A give rwx permissions to the group. For directories, x means you can cd through the directory. For (an unrelated) example, anon ftp servers' "private" directory typically has the world execute bit set, but not the world read. Thus everyone can cd through (if they know the name of the destination), but they can't ls. > But wait, B is the proud owner of a Mac, so he wished he could access files > in the shared directory with Netatalk. Netatalk then decides that... he has > not enough rights to do it, even though he does, in fact. > > Does anyone know if Netatalk has any problems following symlinks, or can it > be configured through some option I didn't see in the manpage?? Netatalk probably has no problem with the symlink. It just doesn't like the permissions it finds on the other end. Remember, symlinks typically have ALL permission bits set. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 22 19:41:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id TAA05009; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 19:41:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA05005; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 19:41:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA12222 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 19:40:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA12220 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 19:40:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA12216 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 19:40:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id QAA15574; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 16:40:53 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 16:40:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: Quay Ly cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk problem on solaris 2.5.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, Quay Ly wrote: > Hello. For some reason, the atalkd daemon would die every so often on my > solaris box. Here's a clip of the messages/log that atalkd dumps: > > --- > Jul 22 02:29:18 church atalkd[180]: route: 31810 -> 1221.104: No such file > or directory > Jul 22 02:29:18 church atalkd[180]: route: 31811 -> 1221.104: No such file > or directory > Jul 22 02:32:42 church atalkd[180]: rtmp_packet: can't remove loopback: No > such file or directory > Jul 22 02:32:45 church atalkd[180]: looproute panic two routes > --- > > Do anyone have any idea why this happens or how do I go about fixing this? > The logs said "No such file or directory", what file or directory are they > talking about? I'm not positive, but I think atalkd is trying to contact the router involved in a link, and failing. Which is weird as atalkd is supposed to be the router involved. :-) Or a routing socket has been opened to a now-defunct routing process, and there's a problem getting the changes to propogate. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 22 23:44:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id XAA10275; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 23:44:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id XAA10266; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 23:44:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id XAA10262; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 23:44:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id XAA10252; Tue, 22 Jul 1997 23:44:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707230344.XAA10252@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Everette G Allen cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] kerberos and papd... In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 22 Jul 1997 15:49:24 EDT." Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 23:44:36 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Everette G Allen > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > if ( pgetflag( "ka" ) == 1 ) { > if ( pgetstr( "af", &a ) == NULL ) { You should have just :ka:, not :ka#1:. The flag, string, and number name-space for the Unix capability libraries are orthogonal. :ka#1: specifies that the number capability "ka" has value 1. The papd code is looking for a boolean capability called "ka". There's an exception to this, BTW. The negative capability name-space overlaps all of the other three name spaces. Hence, :ka@: turns off :ka#1: and :ka:. The second example you give, the string capability "af", is of type string because "af" is the accounting file name. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 23 05:56:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id FAA08621; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 05:56:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id FAA08617; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 05:56:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA02655 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 05:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA02653 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 05:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-e.bcc.ac.uk (mail-e.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.25]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id FAA02649 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 05:55:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707230955.FAA02649@redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu> Received: from ps17 (actually host ps2-17.cls-4.bcc.ac.uk) by mail-e.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:56:42 +0100 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Graham Johnson Organization: The Library, University College London To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:56:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and AppleScript - Newbie Questions X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am trying to create a small AppleScript application to run off a read-only remote volume. This application seems to want to update itself on exit for some reason (presumably a global variable I can't see - I am a novice at AppleScript as well). Up until yesterday I was using CAP which gave error -36 if the application was locked or the volume was read-only guest access. This seemed rather an over the top error number to return. As I have never been convinced by CAP I thought I'd give netatalk a go (I am using 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1) as it seems to have a better approach all round. Indeed I no longer have any problems with locked applications on writable volumes. However with the read-only guest access I get an error -50 (parameter error) returned and in the logs I see messages like: afpd[11377]: afp_setforkparams: ad_rtruncate: Bad file number Could someone enlighten me as to what exactly the above means in plainer terms, and perhaps if there is a solution to my problem staring me in the face. All help and advice gratefully received. Graham -- -------------------------------------------------------- Graham Johnson | e-mail: g.johnson@ucl.ac.uk Systems Programmer | tel: +44 (0)171-387 7050 x2829 The Library, UCL | fax: +44 (0)171-388 5406 -------------------------------------------------------- c/o Systems Integration, Information Systems Division, University College London, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 23 09:40:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA13967; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 09:40:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA13958; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 09:39:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA14681 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 09:38:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA14660 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 09:38:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from luxbbs.itserve.com (root@itserve.com [155.229.86.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA14618 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 09:38:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from davidhspc.atlanta.itserve.com ([155.229.86.45]) by luxbbs.itserve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA13784 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 09:43:24 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-alpha [p0] on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 09:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Organization: Imaging Technologies From: David Hamm To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] problems compiling netatalk+asun Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm having problems compiling netatalk+asun on Linux 2.0.30 Redhat 4.2 and I'd like to download the source again. Could someone tell me where to get the netatalk+asun tar file? Thanks Dh ------ David Hamm - dhamm@itserve.com -------- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 23 10:51:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA16364; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:51:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA16359; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:51:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA10695 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:50:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA10688 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:50:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iglou1 (exim@iglou1.iglou.com [192.107.41.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id KAA10655 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:50:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mfreeman by iglou1 with smtp (8.7.3/8.6.12) id 0wr2ki-0006Nu-00; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:50:56 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 10:50:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael M. Freeman" X-Sender: mfreeman@iglou1 To: David Hamm cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] problems compiling netatalk+asun In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 23 Jul 1997, David Hamm wrote: > I'm having problems compiling netatalk+asun on Linux 2.0.30 Redhat 4.2 and I'd > like to download the source again. Could someone tell me where to get the > netatalk+asun tar file? > > Thanks > > Dh > ------ David Hamm - dhamm@itserve.com -------- > Greetings David, What problems are you having ????? I've worked with Adrian from the start and use the RedHat Configuration. Regards Mike Freeman From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 23 11:03:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA16944; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 11:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA16939; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 11:03:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA10363 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 11:03:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA10355 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 11:03:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from golden.brown.edu (golden.brown.edu [128.148.128.3]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA10341 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 11:03:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Steven_Carmody@brown.edu Received: from [128.148.176.61] (stcMACII.cis.brown.edu [128.148.176.61]) by golden.brown.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29377 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 11:03:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: Steven_Carmody@postoffice.brown.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 11:03:18 -0400 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] kerberos and papd...DOC? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >I am having a problem with papd under 1.3.3 not finding the ka#1 entry in >printcap to recognize that it needs to do kerberos authentication. Is there any doc available that describes how to use the papd/kerberos support? thanks. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 23 12:00:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA19839; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:00:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA19831; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:00:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA04072 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:00:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA04070 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:00:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from luxbbs.itserve.com (itserve.com [155.229.86.1]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA04062 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:00:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from davidhspc.atlanta.itserve.com ([155.229.86.45]) by luxbbs.itserve.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA14653; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:03:15 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-alpha [p0] on Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 11:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Organization: Imaging Technologies From: David Hamm To: "Michael M. Freeman" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] problems compiling netatalk+asun Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Thanks for the reply. Below are the messages I get when I try to run make. make[3]: Entering directory `/home/dhamm/downloads/new/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a12/libatalk/asp' gcc -I/usr/include -p -DTCPWRAP -O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -I../../include -c asp_attn.c In file included from ../../include/atalk/asp.h:29, from asp_attn.c:13: ./../include/netatalk/endian.h:87: parse error before `is' In file included from ../../include/atalk/asp.h:32, from asp_attn.c:13: ./../include/atalk/afp.h:36: parse error before `}' make[3]: *** [asp_attn.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/dhamm/downloads/new/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a12/libatalk/asp' make[2]: *** [asp] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/dhamm/downloads/new/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a12/libatalk' make[1]: *** [../../libatalk] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/dhamm/downloads/new/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a12/sys/linux' make: *** [all] Error 2 On 23-Jul-97 "Michael M. Freeman" wrote: >On Wed, 23 Jul 1997, David Hamm wrote: > >> I'm having problems compiling netatalk+asun on Linux 2.0.30 Redhat 4.2 and >I'd >> like to download the source again. Could someone tell me where to get the >> netatalk+asun tar file? >> >> Thanks >> >> Dh >> ------ David Hamm - dhamm@itserve.com -------- >> >Greetings David, > What problems are you having ????? I've worked with Adrian from >the start and use the RedHat Configuration. > > Regards > Mike Freeman ------ David Hamm - dhamm@itserve.com -------- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 23 12:12:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA20538; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:12:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA20531; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:12:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA09040 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:11:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA09032 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:11:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de (dx4.pingnet.de [194.148.12.10]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA09015 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:11:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.7.3) id SAA18980; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 18:11:51 +0200 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 18:11:50 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] problems compiling netatalk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Thanks for the reply. Below are the messages I get when I try to run make. > `/home/dhamm/downloads/new/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a12/libatalk/asp' Place the netatalk-source directory direct under /usr/src. In some files, there seem to be relative pathes, which won't work in your directory structure. PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 23 15:05:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA28670; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 15:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA28666; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 15:04:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA21197 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 15:03:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA21190 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 15:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id PAA21179 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 15:03:54 -0400 (EDT) From: cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27778; Wed, 23 Jul 97 20:04:41 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 20:04:38 +0100 Received: from luigi (luigi.tees) by scorch; Wed, 23 Jul 97 20:06:25 BST Date: Wed, 23 Jul 97 20:07:34 BST Message-Id: <2264.9707231907@luigi> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Printer question Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folks, I'm having problems printing from the mac, (papd is working fine) my problem lies in converting postcript back to standard ascii so it can be printed to a line printer. Neither ps2ascii or pstotext work correctly regardless of whether I print from BBedit or Simpletext. I have BBedit setup to translate line breaks, but write files out in Unix format, (where they will be used.) It almost works, I'm just having problems with LF on empty lines and tabs. Does anybody know of a way of converting ps to ascii other than those I've mentioned? Failing that, is there a method of forcing all prints through Simpletext, regardless of origin or which app is active? I'm running 7.5.5 with the 8.4.1 laserwriter driver & desktop printing. Any info gratefully recieved... later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 23 15:21:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA29316; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 15:21:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA29311; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 15:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA24156 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 15:21:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA24136 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 15:21:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from roush-ind.com (mail.roush-ind.com [206.253.246.11]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id PAA24022 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 15:20:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ROUSH-Message_Server by roush-ind.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 15:23:10 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 15:20:30 -0400 From: David Walker To: ccaaggj@ucl.ac.uk, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and AppleScript - Newbie Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >>> Graham Johnson - 7/23/97 5:56 AM >>> > I am trying to create a small AppleScript application to run off a > read-only remote volume. This application seems to want to update > itself on exit for some reason (presumably a global variable I can't > see - I am a novice at AppleScript as well). I think it's trying to insert an alias ('ALIS', I think) resource for any applications used in the script. I seem to recall that there's a way around this, but my Applescript is rusty. -d.w. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 23 16:37:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id QAA01507; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 16:37:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA01502; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 16:37:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA12965 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 16:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA12950 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 16:37:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pop.winterlan.com (ftp.winterlan.com [204.188.55.70]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA12879 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 16:37:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707232037.QAA12879@judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 16:37:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from keypress142.keypress.com ([206.29.167.142]) by pop.winterlan.com (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-10321) with SMTP id AAA304 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 12:42:44 -0700 From: Gavin Peters To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Corruption problem goes away with 1.4b2 X-Attribution: gavin Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The corruption problem that I was talking about with netatalk 1.3.3 has gone away with my upgrade - so whatever the bug was, it seems to be fixed. -- ______________________________________________________________________ Gavin Peters Any opinions above are neither http://se.math.uwaterloo.ca/~gwkpeter mine, nor those of the small PGP mail preferred alien living inside my head. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 23 18:04:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id SAA04096; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 18:04:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA04089; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 18:04:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA17104 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 18:04:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA17102 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 18:04:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.cs.hmc.edu (turing.cs.hmc.edu [134.173.42.99]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA17098 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 18:04:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (quay@localhost) by turing.cs.hmc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA18894; Wed, 23 Jul 1997 15:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 15:03:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Quay Ly X-Sender: quay@turing To: Bill Studenmund cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk problem on solaris 2.5.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, Bill Studenmund wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, Quay Ly wrote: > > > Hello. For some reason, the atalkd daemon would die every so often on my > > solaris box. Here's a clip of the messages/log that atalkd dumps: > > > > --- > > Jul 22 02:29:18 church atalkd[180]: route: 31810 -> 1221.104: No such file > > or directory > > Jul 22 02:29:18 church atalkd[180]: route: 31811 -> 1221.104: No such file > > or directory > > Jul 22 02:32:42 church atalkd[180]: rtmp_packet: can't remove loopback: No > > such file or directory > > Jul 22 02:32:45 church atalkd[180]: looproute panic two routes > > --- > > > > Do anyone have any idea why this happens or how do I go about fixing this? > > The logs said "No such file or directory", what file or directory are they > > talking about? > > I'm not positive, but I think atalkd is trying to contact the router > involved in a link, and failing. Which is weird as atalkd is supposed to > be the router involved. :-) Or a routing socket has been opened to a > now-defunct routing process, and there's a problem getting the changes to > propogate. According to the log, it said that it's trying to contact 1221:104. I did a nbplkup and got the following information about 1221.104 Banshee.ATM1/0.5:ciscoRouter 1221.104:254 Banshee:SNMP Agent 1221.104:8 Does anyone know why is it going out to the router/snmp agent? -quay From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 24 05:21:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id FAA05332; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 05:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id FAA05328; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 05:21:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA02821 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 05:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA02819 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 05:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laplace.math-info.univ-paris5.fr (laplace.math-info.univ-paris5.fr [193.48.200.44]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id FAA02815 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 05:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laplace (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by laplace.math-info.univ-paris5.fr (thee-0.1 test config/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA06061 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:22:30 +0200 Message-ID: <33D71ED6.6723285F@math-info.univ-paris5.fr> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:22:30 +0200 From: Eddy Thesee Organization: UFR MATH-INFO Universite Paris 5 Rene Descartes X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] afpd does not respond Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I use netatalk 1.4b2 everything is fine and I can see my server in the appleshare but I can't connect to it.... It doesn't answer.... Did I miss something? From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 24 05:26:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id FAA05459; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 05:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id FAA05450; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 05:26:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA05695 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 05:25:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA05692 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 05:25:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id FAA05679 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 05:25:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:26:13 +0200 Received: by lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de (940816.SGI.8.6.9/ZRZ-Gen) id LAA20926; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:26:12 +0200 Message-Id: <199707240926.LAA20926@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] afpd does not respond In-Reply-To: <33D71ED6.6723285F@math-info.univ-paris5.fr> from Eddy Thesee at "Jul 24, 97 11:22:30 am" To: thee@math-info.univ-paris5.fr (Eddy Thesee) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:26:12 +0200 (MEST) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) From: Georg Schwarz Reply-To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Hi, >=20 >=20 > I use netatalk 1.4b2 everything is fine and I can see my server in the=20 > appleshare but I can't connect to it.... It doesn't answer.... > Did I miss something? >=20 I've had the same Problem on a 386 with an NE2000. Since I only intended to use it as a test machine I didn't bother to track that problem any further. I'm now successfuly running 1.4b2 on a Pentium with 3COM as well as on another Pentium and a 486 with NE2000. All machines are running Linux 2.0.29. --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik Tel. +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ Sekr. PN 7-1, Hardenbergstr. 36, D-10623 Berlin IRC: kuroi From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 24 05:53:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id FAA06414; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 05:53:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id FAA06409; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 05:53:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA04423 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 05:53:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA04417 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 05:53:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laplace.math-info.univ-paris5.fr (laplace.math-info.univ-paris5.fr [193.48.200.44]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id FAA04411 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 05:53:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laplace (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by laplace.math-info.univ-paris5.fr (thee-0.1 test config/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA06466; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:54:30 +0200 Message-ID: <33D72656.1CD60642@math-info.univ-paris5.fr> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:54:30 +0200 From: Eddy Thesee Organization: UFR MATH-INFO Universite Paris 5 Rene Descartes X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] afpd does not respond Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I don't know if it's make a difference but my configuration is: Bi-Pentuim Pro 200, RedHat 4.1 Kernel 2.0.30, 3c900. Appletalk is loaded as module. />Eddy Thesee: thee@math-info.univ-paris5.fr // http://www.univ-paris5.fr/~thee/ (//////[O]>=========================================- \\ Univ. Paris 5 UFR Math. Info Salle P705I \>Tel : 44 55 35 29 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 24 07:49:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id HAA08302; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 07:49:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA08295; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 07:49:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA15795 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 07:49:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA15787 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 07:49:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iq.pvv.ntnu.no (iq.pvv.ntnu.no [129.241.210.223]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA15773 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 07:49:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ra.pvv.ntnu.no.pvv (ra.pvv.ntnu.no [129.241.210.205]) by iq.pvv.ntnu.no (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA13220 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 13:49:13 +0200 (METDST) Received: from localhost by ra.pvv.ntnu.no.pvv (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA26142; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 13:49:13 +0200 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 13:49:11 +0200 (MET DST) From: Tore Halset To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] FreeBSD and AppleShareIP ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Anyone got AppleShareIP to work on FreeBSD? - Tore. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 24 12:05:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA16679; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 12:05:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA16669; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 12:04:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA19526 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 12:04:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA19522 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 12:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dallas-cs-000.novare.net (root@dallas-cs-000.novare.net [205.229.104.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA19493 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 12:03:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from muggles (mark@muggles.novare.net [205.229.105.72]) by dallas-cs-000.novare.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA08650 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:03:52 -0500 Message-ID: <33D781C4.476D7BAB@novare.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:24:36 -0500 From: m* Organization: Novare' International Information Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] afpd grief References: <33D71ED6.6723285F@math-info.univ-paris5.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu my 1.4b2-4 server logs: Jul 22 16:28:37 apps afpd[291]: atp_sreq to (5) 32511.164:245 Jul 22 16:31:19 apps afpd[291]: kill: No such process Jul 22 16:31:19 apps afpd[291]: asp_alrm: 6149 timed out after which all conections are dropped and a reboot is required to restore connectivity. in rtfm and search mode, but pointers would be helpful. m* -- "The Shining One" -- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 24 13:22:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA19980; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 13:22:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA19974; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 13:22:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA13726 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 13:22:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA13724 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 13:22:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.online.uleth.ca (mercury.online.uleth.ca [142.66.33.3]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA13719 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 13:22:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rose.cserve.uleth.ca ([142.66.37.250]) by mercury.online.uleth.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with ESMTP id AAA19125 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:21:01 -0600 Message-ID: <33D78F5C.805951A3@uleth.ca> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:22:36 -0600 From: "Jeff Oliver" Reply-To: jeff.oliver@uleth.ca Organization: University of Lethbridge X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems with printing X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I just installed the 1.4b2 release of netatalk on my Solaris 2.5.1 box (a SUN Ultra), and everything seemed to go very well. All of my daemons start up when the system boots, and I can see everything in the chooser that I am supposed to. However, I have defined in the papd.conf file a print queue that I have set up on the SUN that prints to an HP5 with a jetdirect card. I can print to this queue from both the SUN and from my PC. When I try to print to this queue from the MAC, I get a postscript error at the client. I also get an error message on the console of the SUN saying papd[268]: lp_init: lock: No such file or directory papd[268]: lp_open failed The entry in my papd.conf is: Titan:\ :pr=raw:\ :pd=/usr/local/atalk/etc/PPD/HPLJ5M_4.PPD: I also had to create a /etc/printcap file. Its entry is: raw:\ :lp=:\ :rm=hp5.cserve.uleth.ca:\ :rp=raw:\ :sd=/usr/spool/lp/tmp/hp5.cserve.uleth.ca: The printer is actually set up using SYSV printing. Can you help me? Jeff Oliver -- --------------------------------------------------------------- To Err is human; to really screw things up requires a computer! --------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey L. Oliver System Support Specialist The University of Lethbridge Phone: (403) 329-5162 Fax: (403) 382-7108 Email: jeff.oliver@uleth.ca www: http://home.uleth.ca/~jeff.oliver From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 24 14:14:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA22113; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 14:14:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA22099; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 14:13:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA03256 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 14:13:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA03249 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 14:13:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA03227 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 14:13:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id LAA30337; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:13:50 -0700 Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 11:13:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: Tore Halset cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] FreeBSD and AppleShareIP ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, Tore Halset wrote: > Anyone got AppleShareIP to work on FreeBSD? I and a few others have gotten it (Arthur Sun's patched 1.4b2) to compile under NetBSD. As the patches to add NetBSD support were basically to change all of the #ifdef __FreeBSD__ to #ifdef BSD4_4, it should compile fine. I'd expect it to run fine too, as the NetBSD kernel code looks a lot like the FreeBSD code (modulo a lot of spacing changes). Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 25 01:01:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id BAA16188; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 01:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id BAA16183; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 01:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA14029 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 00:59:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA14027 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 00:59:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU (mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU [128.250.1.22]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id AAA13989 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 00:59:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU (5.83--+1.3.1+0.51) id AA23080; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 15:00:24 +1000 (from bhat) From: Tim Bell Message-Id: <9707250500.23080@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] afpd grief To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 15:00:23 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "m*" at Jul 24, 97 11:24:36 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu m* wrote: > > my 1.4b2-4 server logs: > > > Jul 22 16:28:37 apps afpd[291]: atp_sreq to (5) 32511.164:245 > Jul 22 16:31:19 apps afpd[291]: kill: No such process > Jul 22 16:31:19 apps afpd[291]: asp_alrm: 6149 timed out > > > after which all conections are dropped and a reboot is required > to restore connectivity. I am having similar problems; the last three messages I get before afpd stops working are exactly the same. > in rtfm and search mode, but pointers would be helpful. I have no answers, but a very kludgy workaround which I'm using at the moment -- I restart afpd every morning. Note that a reboot is not required, nor do you need to stop any other netatalk services. After the restart, everything is fine, until it breaks again. This usually happens within the next 24 hours (often 12 hours), so perhaps I should be restarting every 12 hours. I am running Debian GNU/Linux 1.3.1 with a 2.0.29 kernel. Netatalk is from the Debian package version 1.4b2-4. I have a sneaking suspicion this could be happening only with the Debian netatalk package, in which case I can take the matter up with the Debian netatalk package person. If anyone *doesn't* have this problem with the netatalk 1.4b2-4 Debian package, or *does* have this problem *not* on Debian, please speak up. In the meantime, I too am in rtfm and search mode. Tim. -- Tim Bell .--_|\ bhat@cs.mu.oz.au / \ Department of Computer Science \_.--._/ University of Melbourne, Australia v From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 25 06:11:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id GAA03962; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 06:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA03958; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 06:11:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA09554 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 06:10:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA09552 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 06:10:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk (renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk [129.215.13.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA09547 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 06:10:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tattoo.ed.ac.uk (tattoo.ed.ac.uk [129.215.166.10]) by renko.ucs.ed.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA22024 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 11:11:16 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 11:11:10 +0100 (BST) From: K J MacDonald Reply-To: K.MacDonald@ed.ac.uk To: Tim Bell cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] afpd grief In-Reply-To: <9707250500.23080@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hiya Tim and all, I've been running the same Debian package (along with the bleeding edge Hamm distribution) here for a couple of months, without noticing these errors. However, a trawl though my old logs indicates it did indeed happen once. I'm not really using this service at the moment, just using it to test some PAM modules I'm writing, and I've recompiled from source against libc6. A brief look at the source indicates that the "atp_sreq to (5) ..." messages are coming from libatalk/asp/asp_getsess.c:369. I don't know what this function (asp_attention()) does, but it seems to log this message even if the function succeeds (returns 0). Do you have to reboot the client or the server when this happens? Best wishes, Kenny. | "http://www.glg.ed.ac.uk/~kenny" | | Portuguese/English/French Translations/Teaching by Native Portuguese | | "http://www.nsl.co.uk/tls" | On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Tim Bell wrote: > m* wrote: > > > > my 1.4b2-4 server logs: > > > > > > Jul 22 16:28:37 apps afpd[291]: atp_sreq to (5) 32511.164:245 > > Jul 22 16:31:19 apps afpd[291]: kill: No such process > > Jul 22 16:31:19 apps afpd[291]: asp_alrm: 6149 timed out > > > > > > after which all conections are dropped and a reboot is required > > to restore connectivity. > > I am having similar problems; the last three messages I get before > afpd stops working are exactly the same. > > > in rtfm and search mode, but pointers would be helpful. > > I have no answers, but a very kludgy workaround which I'm using at > the moment -- I restart afpd every morning. Note that a reboot is > not required, nor do you need to stop any other netatalk services. > > After the restart, everything is fine, until it breaks again. This > usually happens within the next 24 hours (often 12 hours), so perhaps > I should be restarting every 12 hours. > > I am running Debian GNU/Linux 1.3.1 with a 2.0.29 kernel. Netatalk is > from the Debian package version 1.4b2-4. I have a sneaking suspicion > this could be happening only with the Debian netatalk package, in which > case I can take the matter up with the Debian netatalk package person. > If anyone *doesn't* have this problem with the netatalk 1.4b2-4 Debian > package, or *does* have this problem *not* on Debian, please speak up. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 25 09:33:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA08278; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 09:33:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA08261; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 09:33:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA15879 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 09:32:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA15875 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 09:32:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id JAA15845 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 09:32:22 -0400 (EDT) From: cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13900; Fri, 25 Jul 97 14:33:18 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 14:33:15 +0100 Received: from luigi (luigi.tees) by scorch; Fri, 25 Jul 97 14:34:41 BST Date: Fri, 25 Jul 97 14:36:14 BST Message-Id: <2781.9707251336@luigi> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] papd Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, How difficult would it be to make papd Imagewriter compatible? later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 25 12:13:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA12679; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 12:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA12671; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 12:13:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA22428 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 12:13:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA22423 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 12:13:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com ([206.168.67.137]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA22416 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 12:13:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shane.plutotech.com (durian@shane.plutotech.com [206.168.67.149]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05668 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 10:13:10 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199707251613.KAA05668@pluto.plutotech.com> From: "Mike Durian" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] routing problem Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 10:13:09 -0600 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm very new to netatalk and AppleTalk in general. I don't know if this is an netatalk problem or just an AppleTalk configuration problem. My Unix system is a FreeBSD-current system from Feb 4, 1997. After patching atalkd to use a sockaddr_dl argument to the SIOCMULTI ioctl(2), I was able to get netatalk to run. I was even able to communicate to a Mac on the same subnet and access files using afpd. However, I'm having no luck routing across multiple ethernets. Here's my atalkd.conf before starting atalkd: fxp0 fxp1 fxp2 ep0 After running atalkd, atalkd.conf gets modified and reads: fxp0 -phase 2 -net 65280-65534 -addr 65280.35 fxp1 -phase 2 -net 65280-65534 -addr 0.0 fxp2 -phase 2 -net 65280-65534 -addr 0.0 ep0 -phase 2 -net 65280-65534 -addr 0.0 With atalkd running, ifconfig -a reports: fxp0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 206.168.67.137 netmask 0xffffff80 broadcast 206.168.67.255 atalk 65280.35 range 65280-65534 phase 2 broadcast 0.255 ether 00:a0:c9:48:cf:b2 fxp1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 206.168.67.1 netmask 0xffffff80 broadcast 206.168.67.127 ether 00:a0:c9:48:cf:e2 fxp2: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 10.168.67.137 netmask 0xffffff80 broadcast 10.168.67.255 ether 00:a0:c9:48:cf:aa lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 ep0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 10.168.67.1 netmask 0xffffff80 broadcast 10.168.67.127 ether 00:a0:24:35:20:4a lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 atalk 0.0 range 0-0 phase 2 And when I finally killed atalkd, it reported the following error three times: Jul 25 09:55:16 pluto atalkd[5168]: difaddr: Can't assign requested address We have a very simple network setup. There is only one (sometimes two) Apples on the fxp1 net along with an HP printer. When I change /etc/atalkd.conf and only enable fxp1, nbplkup reports: pluto:AFPServer 65280.188:128 pluto:netatalk 65280.188:4 pluto:Workstation 65280.188:4 Tom Goldberg:Canvas4481224630 65280.1:2 tralfamador:NUB6500001206776 65280.1:251 tralfamador: Power Macintosh 65280.1:252 tralfamador:Workstation 65280.1:4 Pluto Print:SNMP Agent 65281.128:8 Pluto Print:LaserWriter 65281.128:157 Pluto Print:LaserJet 4 Plus 65281.128:158 Pluto Print North:SNMP Agent 65281.129:8 Pluto Print North:LaserWriter 65281.129:157 Pluto Print North:LaserJet 5 65281.129:158 I'd like to start routing from some FreeBSD machines running netatalk on the other subnets to the Macs but I just can't figure out what's going on. Our router just won't see the other machines on the other ethernets even if they are up and running netatalk. In fact, our router won't even see the machines on fxp1 if fxp0 is enabled since it doesn't seem to route anything after the first interface. Does anybody have any suggestions for me? mike From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 25 14:06:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA19049; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 14:06:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA19044; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 14:06:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA23326 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 14:05:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA23316 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 14:05:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coe.missouri.edu (root@tiger.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.76.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA23300 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 14:05:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.206.76.52] (baroque.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.76.52]) by coe.missouri.edu (8.8.6/8.8.3) with SMTP id NAA24345 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 13:06:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 13:08:07 +0000 From: Mark Donnelly Reply-To: mark@coe.missouri.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] OS8 GM client problems? To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all. I'm running Linux 2.0.30 and netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a12, with all the correct patches so that it would compile. It's running, it's great, but I've got a problem: if I connect from any of the OS8 machines around our lab (which are running either fc5 or GM, depending on the machine), I have the problem of the window constantly updating because files seem to duplicate themselves and then destroy the duplicates. I saw (via the web archive) that somebody had posted this problem to the list a while ago, but I didn't see an answer to the problem. Is there a fix? I'm running on a 3Com 3c509, 8MB RAM, appletalk compiled into the kernel, 10baseT ethernet, and in a network of I don't know how many zones (a lot! probably 75+), which somebody said mattered. This shows up for both appletalk and appletalkIP connections to my Linux box, but other Macintosh connections are unchanged. If the creators would like to work with me on this one, I can offer etherpeeks, tcpdumps, or test accounts... TIA, --Mark "I think so Brain, but if they called them sad meals, then no one would buy them." From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 25 14:55:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA20424; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 14:55:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA20419; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 14:55:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA10812 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 14:54:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA10803 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 14:54:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA10784 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 14:54:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id LAA34941; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 11:55:28 -0700 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 11:55:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: Mike Durian cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] routing problem In-Reply-To: <199707251613.KAA05668@pluto.plutotech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Mike Durian wrote: > I'm very new to netatalk and AppleTalk in general. I don't know > if this is an netatalk problem or just an AppleTalk configuration > problem. > My Unix system is a FreeBSD-current system from Feb 4, 1997. After > patching atalkd to use a sockaddr_dl argument to the SIOCMULTI ioctl(2), > I was able to get netatalk to run. I was even able to communicate > to a Mac on the same subnet and access files using afpd. However, > I'm having no luck routing across multiple ethernets. > Here's my atalkd.conf before starting atalkd: > > fxp0 > fxp1 > fxp2 > ep0 > > After running atalkd, atalkd.conf gets modified and reads: > > fxp0 -phase 2 -net 65280-65534 -addr 65280.35 > fxp1 -phase 2 -net 65280-65534 -addr 0.0 > fxp2 -phase 2 -net 65280-65534 -addr 0.0 > ep0 -phase 2 -net 65280-65534 -addr 0.0 > > With atalkd running, ifconfig -a reports: [no atalk addresses on fxp1, fxp2, ep0] > And when I finally killed atalkd, it reported the following error > three times: > > Jul 25 09:55:16 pluto atalkd[5168]: difaddr: Can't assign requested address > > We have a very simple network setup. There is only one (sometimes two) > Apples on the fxp1 net along with an HP printer. When I change > /etc/atalkd.conf and only enable fxp1, nbplkup reports: [ok I think nbplkup] > I'd like to start routing from some FreeBSD machines running netatalk > on the other subnets to the Macs but I just can't figure out what's > going on. Our router just won't see the other machines on the other > ethernets even if they are up and running netatalk. In fact, our > router won't even see the machines on fxp1 if fxp0 is enabled since > it doesn't seem to route anything after the first interface. > > Does anybody have any suggestions for me? Yes. Get routers on these nets. You can use your FreeBSD box to be that router. Try something like: fxp0 -phase 2 -net 1-1 -addr 1.1 -zone "FirstZone" -seed fxp1 -phase 2 -net 2-2 -addr 2.1 -zone "SecondZone" -seed fxp2 -phase 2 -net 3-3 -addr 3.1 -zone "ThirdZone" -seed ep0 -phase 2 -net 4-4 -addr 4.1 -zone "FourthZone" -seed Also, your FreeBSD box will now, I think, route between the nets. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 25 15:15:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA21223; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 15:15:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA21215; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 15:15:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA17302 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 15:14:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA17285 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 15:14:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (0@runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.144.15]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA17272 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 15:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from schubert.promo.de by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA17161; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 15:14:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA15318; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 21:04:40 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199707251613.KAA05668@pluto.plutotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 21:09:17 +0200 To: "Mike Durian" , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Stefan Bethke Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] routing problem Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 18:13 Uhr +0200 25.07.1997, Mike Durian wrote: > I'm very new to netatalk and AppleTalk in general. I don't know >if this is an netatalk problem or just an AppleTalk configuration >problem. The latter. > Here's my atalkd.conf before starting atalkd: > >fxp0 >fxp1 >fxp2 >ep0 > > After running atalkd, atalkd.conf gets modified and reads: > >fxp0 -phase 2 -net 65280-65534 -addr 65280.35 >fxp1 -phase 2 -net 65280-65534 -addr 0.0 >fxp2 -phase 2 -net 65280-65534 -addr 0.0 >ep0 -phase 2 -net 65280-65534 -addr 0.0 Try: fxp0 -seed -phase 2 -net 1-1 -zone "My Zone" fxp1 -seed -phase 2 -net 2-2 -zone "My Zone" fxp2 -seed -phase 2 -net 3-3 -zone "My Zone" ep0 -seed -phase 2 -net 4-4 -zone "My Zone" You can use any zone name you like, also different zone names on different interfaces. >Jul 25 09:55:16 pluto atalkd[5168]: difaddr: Can't assign requested address Probably due to the fact that fxp1, fxp2 and ep0 never got up. > I'd like to start routing from some FreeBSD machines running netatalk >on the other subnets to the Macs but I just can't figure out what's >going on. Our router just won't see the other machines on the other >ethernets even if they are up and running netatalk. In fact, our >router won't even see the machines on fxp1 if fxp0 is enabled since >it doesn't seem to route anything after the first interface. Does "our router" refer to the FreeBSD machine, or do you have another router? If it is the FreeBSD machine, then try the above; as evident from the ifconfig -au output, the other interfaces were not configured for AppleTalk at all. Hope this helps, Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-0 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 25 17:23:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id RAA26898; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:23:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA26878; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:23:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA27613 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA27611 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (0@runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.144.15]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA27606 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:22:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from schubert.promo.de by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA26772; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:23:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA15648 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 23:13:42 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 23:18:18 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Stefan Bethke Subject: [netatalk-admins] Tutorial: Configuring atalkd(8) as an AppleTalk router Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu See http://www.promo.de/people/stefan/netatalk/router.html for my attempt to clear this up a bit. Comments welcome! Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-0 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 25 19:21:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id TAA28550; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 19:21:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA28546; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 19:20:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA06311 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 19:20:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA06308 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 19:20:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from audrey.Ivy.NET (audrey.ivy.net [208.0.35.33]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA06303 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 19:20:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (carton@localhost) by audrey.Ivy.NET (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA28822; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 19:20:30 -0400 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:20:27 -0600 (MDT) From: Miles Nordin Reply-To: Miles Nordin To: Mike Durian , Bill Studenmund cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] routing problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Try something like: > > fxp0 -phase 2 -net 1-1 -addr 1.1 -zone "FirstZone" -seed > fxp1 -phase 2 -net 2-2 -addr 2.1 -zone "SecondZone" -seed > fxp2 -phase 2 -net 3-3 -addr 3.1 -zone "ThirdZone" -seed > ep0 -phase 2 -net 4-4 -addr 4.1 -zone "FourthZone" -seed > > Also, your FreeBSD box will now, I think, route between the nets. as a standard disclaimer, i've never done this bevore either but have read about it a lot. hopefully i am not about to make a fool of myself. I don't think you need to specify different zones on each net. I think you may be better off using one zone. Second, there is one more thing you need to know that he didn't tell you. There is an ordedr this has to be done in. 1. Shut off _every_ mac on all four subnets. NO EXCEPTIONS. maybe use nbplkup starting atalkd one net at a time to ensure this. 2. Start atalkd on the FreeBSD machine with Bill's suggested atalkd.conf 3. Restart all the Mac's. Mac's only choose their node address once at boot. If there is no router on the subnet, they will choose the zoneless nets above 65280. If there is a router, they will choose an address that falls in the acceptable range indicated by the router. but, you cannot start a -seed router if: a. there is another seed router on the subnet, or b. there is a Mac on the subnet powered on that did not boot under the controlling influence of the seed router you are trying to bring up. so... remember, 1 seed router per subnet, and don't start new seed routers until everyone else is off the subnet. For example, if you were to get yet another FreeBSD box with two interfaces routing between the net on fxp2 and a fifth subnet, you would config the interface that shared fxp2's wire _without_ -seed, and the fifth subnet _with_ -seed. and, everyone on the fifth subnet would have to power down before you started this second FreeBSD router. make sense? anyway good luck... as i say i've never done this myself, but as with most things that come out of Apple, the rules have an eerie almost essential seductive logic to them. Bill, feel free to correct (and cc: me) if i am wrong about any of this. i don't have to do this now but probably will some day. k. tks, later guys. -- Miles Nordin home 1-888-857-2723 555 Bryant Street #182 or +1 510 608-1813 Palo Alto, CA 94301 http://www.ivy.net/~carton From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 25 19:58:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id TAA29384; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 19:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA29380; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 19:58:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA27146 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 19:57:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA27142 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 19:57:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU (mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU [128.250.1.22]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id TAA27126 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 19:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU (5.83--+1.3.1+0.51) id AA09360; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 09:57:55 +1000 (from bhat) From: Tim Bell Message-Id: <9707252357.9360@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] afpd grief To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 09:57:54 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: from "K J MacDonald" at Jul 25, 97 11:11:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME5a] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu K J MacDonald wrote: > > Hiya Tim and all, > > I've been running the same Debian package (along with the bleeding edge > Hamm distribution) here for a couple of months, without noticing these > errors. However, a trawl though my old logs indicates it did indeed > happen once. [snip] > A brief look at the source indicates that the "atp_sreq to (5) ..." > messages are coming from libatalk/asp/asp_getsess.c:369. I don't know > what this function (asp_attention()) does, but it seems to log this > message even if the function succeeds (returns 0). Well, further investigation shows that typing your password incorrectly causes this problem. (I'm not sure if there's any other possible causes, but I'll stick with this one to start with.) This may account for why you've only seen it once. Incidentally, this has been reported as bug #10290 in the Debian bug tracking system, although not the fact that incorrect passwords are to blame. (They also have a bug to do with shadow passwords (#9431) -- I'm not sure if they're related, since I do have shadow passwords, but I'm not seeing the behaviour as described in that bug report.) > Do you have to reboot the client or the server when this happens? Just restarting the apfd daemon is enough. Tim. -- Tim Bell .--_|\ bhat@cs.mu.oz.au / \ Department of Computer Science \_.--._/ University of Melbourne, Australia v From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 25 20:17:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id UAA29901; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 20:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA29897; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 20:17:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA15788 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 20:17:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA15778 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 20:17:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA15770 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 20:17:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id RAA20060; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:17:08 -0700 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:17:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: Miles Nordin cc: Mike Durian , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] routing problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Miles Nordin wrote: > > Try something like: > > > > fxp0 -phase 2 -net 1-1 -addr 1.1 -zone "FirstZone" -seed > > fxp1 -phase 2 -net 2-2 -addr 2.1 -zone "SecondZone" -seed > > fxp2 -phase 2 -net 3-3 -addr 3.1 -zone "ThirdZone" -seed > > ep0 -phase 2 -net 4-4 -addr 4.1 -zone "FourthZone" -seed > > > > Also, your FreeBSD box will now, I think, route between the nets. > > as a standard disclaimer, i've never done this bevore either but have read > about it a lot. hopefully i am not about to make a fool of myself. > > I don't think you need to specify different zones on each net. I think > you may be better off using one zone. That's a matter of choice. If you have a few macs, you're probably right. > Second, there is one more thing you need to know that he didn't tell you. > There is an ordedr this has to be done in. > > 1. Shut off _every_ mac on all four subnets. NO EXCEPTIONS. maybe use > nbplkup starting atalkd one net at a time to ensure this. > 2. Start atalkd on the FreeBSD machine with Bill's suggested atalkd.conf > 3. Restart all the Mac's. > > Mac's only choose their node address once at boot. If there is no router > on the subnet, they will choose the zoneless nets above 65280. If there > is a router, they will choose an address that falls in the acceptable > range indicated by the router. but, you cannot start a -seed router if: > > a. there is another seed router on the subnet, or > b. there is a Mac on the subnet powered on that did not boot under > the controlling influence of the seed router you are trying to > bring up. > > so... remember, 1 seed router per subnet, and don't start new seed > routers until everyone else is off the subnet. I've never heard of this latter restriction. It doesn't seem to be present in netatalk, as far as I can tell. I've looked in etc/atalkd/main.c, and there seems to be no checks to see if there are macs on the interface before seeding an interface. My copy of Inside Appletalk is at home, but I thought that if a mac booted w/o seeing a router, but then saw a router, it would change its address to be in the new netrange. Too bad for any existing connections. I'll look it up, but it'll be a while before I can get back as I'm moving across town this weekend. > For example, if you were to get yet another FreeBSD box with two > interfaces routing between the net on fxp2 and a fifth subnet, you would > config the interface that shared fxp2's wire _without_ -seed, and the > fifth subnet _with_ -seed. and, everyone on the fifth subnet would have > to power down before you started this second FreeBSD router. I'd suggest you put -seed in the second box's config too. I thought (and I'm sure I'll be corrected) that you can have multiple seed routers AS LONG AS THEY ALL AGREE. The code in etc/atalkd/zip.c around line 600 in 1.4b2 only squalks if we get a zip reply on a SEED interface which differes from the seed config. I think it's ok if they agree. Thus it won't matter what order you started the servers on fxp2! > make sense? anyway good luck... as i say i've never done this myself, > but as with most things that come out of Apple, the rules have an eerie > almost essential seductive logic to them. Yeah, but I thought they generally tried to deal with problems on the fly (like not having a cable hooked up, etc). Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 25 20:23:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id UAA00308; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 20:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA00304; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 20:23:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA01024 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 20:22:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA01022 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 20:22:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (root@[206.168.67.137]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA01018 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 20:22:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shane.plutotech.com (durian@shane.plutotech.com [206.168.67.149]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA08720; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 18:22:35 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199707260022.SAA08720@pluto.plutotech.com> From: "Mike Durian" To: Miles Nordin cc: Bill Studenmund , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] routing problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:20:27 MDT." Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 18:22:35 -0600 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:20:27 MDT, Miles Nordin wrote: >1. Shut off _every_ mac on all four subnets. NO EXCEPTIONS. maybe use > nbplkup starting atalkd one net at a time to ensure this. >2. Start atalkd on the FreeBSD machine with Bill's suggested atalkd.conf >3. Restart all the Mac's. A little experimentation on my part showed this to be the case. (The one powered on Mac didn't switch over until I rebooted it). This is easy enough for us to do since we don't have many AppleTalk machines, but what about the power failure case? Do the Macs remember their last used address and try to reconfigure to it, or is it a crap shoot as to which machine comes up first? mike From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 25 20:57:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id UAA01182; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 20:57:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA01170; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 20:57:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA21521 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 20:57:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA21519 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 20:57:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA21501; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 20:56:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23793; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:42:23 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA10995; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707260042.RAA10995@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: mfreeman@iglou.com, everette_allen@ncsu.edu, joakim.ahlen@mediaprint.se, greg@smithphoto.com, halset@pvv.ntnu.no, hannu@ddbn.ee, kateley@apple.com, jwa@jammed.com, mbbecker@mail.deforest.k12.wi.us, chandhok@within.com, netatalk@umich.edu, brasherj@zoology.washington.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu, appleshareip@private.lists.apple.com, wrstuden@loki.stanford.edu, richardk@iprolink.co.nz, kenp@nmrfam.wisc.edu, schinder@leprss.gsfc.nasa.gov, mego@url.de, wrd@awenet.com Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk pre-a13 patches available Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu given my propensity to break things w/ patches, i've made a pre-patch available at ftp.u.washington.edu:/public/asun. i'll fix it and rename it when i get reports on its useability. anyways, this patch adds in the ability to use an afpd.conf configuration file. the parser is a bit hokey, so don't try to do anything fancy like specify options on multiple lines. as an example, something like the following will specify 4 servers w/ various attributes: "Users Server" "Applications Server"@zone1 -port 12121 "DDP Only server" -notcp "TCP Only server" -noasp -uservolfirst here's the order of precedence (i changed my mind): afpd.conf > command-line > built-in anyways, if you use patch, you'll need to apply it to the a12 sources and NOT the a12 + patchlet sources. remember to use patch -p1 -d . also, remember to read README.ASUN and the various other README's. my setup is a bit different from the most common one, and so the default options may not be correct for you. FOR THOSE INTERESTED IN OPTIONS: i'll probably add in the ability to specify things like -noauthall/-authall, -noprotoall/-protoall so that you can turn everything off and on. i'm also thinking about adding in the ability to specify the server id. for a single server, it's not that useful. for multiple servers, however, you can specify a group of servers that allows only a single connection per machine. it might be useful in a load-reduction type of way. -a (for adrian) (who discovered that the server signature is indeed used by the appleshare client) From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Jul 25 22:06:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id WAA02645; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 22:06:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id WAA02617; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 22:06:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA15274 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 22:05:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA15272 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 22:05:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from staff.feldberg.brandeis.edu (staff.feldberg.brandeis.edu [129.64.8.30]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA15267 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 22:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (nriley@localhost) by staff.feldberg.brandeis.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA01003 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 22:07:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 22:07:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicholas Riley Reply-To: Nicholas Riley To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] papd and file size/multiple documents Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi. I'm attempting to set up papd under netatalk 1.4b2 with NetBSD, printing to a local NEC Silentwriter 95f (postscript) via a serial connection. Everything else worked great and on the first try - the install and even afpd with AFP/IP support. I already had unix-side printing working prior to installing netatalk, via a text->postscript filter, which I have preserved (papd doesn't seem to mind). Printing one file at a time from MacOS works fine. This is a great improvement over CAP's lwsrv8, which after weeks of trying I couldn't get to do anything in this situation. But the following doesn't work (bar is a text file): [print request from MacOS, netatalk does its stuff, printer displays PROCESSING/WAITING/PROCESSING/etc. While this is happening, I do: ] {sabi#ttyp0@roadrunner:76} 9:28pm ~>lpr bar {sabi#ttyp0@roadrunner:77} 9:29pm ~>lpq lp is ready and printing Rank Owner Job Files Total Size active nobody 22 Received 128357 bytes 1st sabi 23 bar 210 bytes [printer: PROCESSING/WAITING/PROCESSING/.../PROCESSING/WAITING] {sabi#ttyp0@roadrunner:79} 9:30pm ~>lpq no entries [printer continues to display WAITING for >5 minutes until I manually abort the job from the printer control panel. Nothing is printed.] So I think "oh, it must be the file size!". I print something smaller: {sabi#ttyp0@roadrunner:98} 9:58pm ~>lpq lp is ready and printing Rank Owner Job Files Total Size active nobody 27 Untitled 9120 bytes 1st sabi 28 bar 210 bytes [printer: PROCESSING/PRINTING/PROCESSING/PRINTING/WAITING and prints both documents] {sabi#ttyp0@roadrunner:99} 9:58pm ~>lpq no entries [printer continues to display WAITING. Meanwhile, no jobs are accepted until I manually cancel.] Here's the relevant part of /etc/printcap: lp|Silentwriter 95f:\ :lp=/dev/tty00:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :af=/var/log/lpd.acct:\ :if=/usr/local/lib/lprps/psif:\ :br#19200:mx#0:sf:rw:sh:sb:\ :ms=opost,onlcr,cs8,-parenb: and /usr/local/atalk/etc/papd.conf: dicer:\ :pr=lp:op=nobody:pd=/usr/local/atalk/etc/nc95fax1.ppd: According to the printer, serial settings are as follows: RS422, 19200/8N1, wait timeout 44 sec. Is this a problem with the printer? with papd? with lprps? with lpd? in my configuration of any of the above? Anyone experienced anything like it or know how to get around it? If you need more information about my configuration, please ask. Thanks, -- Nicholas Riley From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Jul 26 01:10:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id BAA13192; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 01:10:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id BAA13188; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 01:10:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA08816 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 01:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA08811 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 01:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id BAA08798 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 1997 01:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA27087; Fri, 25 Jul 1997 22:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd027081; Sat Jul 26 05:05:15 1997 Message-ID: <33D98517.4B761E89@whistle.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 22:03:19 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Durian CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] routing problem References: <199707260022.SAA08720@pluto.plutotech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Mike Durian wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Jul 1997 17:20:27 MDT, Miles Nordin wrote: > >1. Shut off _every_ mac on all four subnets. NO EXCEPTIONS. maybe use > > nbplkup starting atalkd one net at a time to ensure this. > >2. Start atalkd on the FreeBSD machine with Bill's suggested atalkd.conf > >3. Restart all the Mac's. > > A little experimentation on my part showed this to be the case. > (The one powered on Mac didn't switch over until I rebooted it). > This is easy enough for us to do since we don't have many AppleTalk > machines, but what about the power failure case? Do the Macs remember > their last used address and try to reconfigure to it, or is it a > crap shoot as to which machine comes up first? > > mike Be aware that htere is a bug in FreeBSD's appletalk stack.. it is not possible to add a route to a net that has a router on a differnt 'net' than your interface.. e.g. ed0 is net-range 110-115, with address 111.21 teh router to net 116 is 110.23 the command route add -atalk 116.0 110.23 will fail if the router had an address starting with 111, it would succeed. I will try fix this bug when I get back from vacation in 10 days.. (since I did the port) julian From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Jul 27 12:24:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA11540; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 12:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA11536; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 12:24:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA18431 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 12:24:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA18428 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 12:24:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from venus (venus.st.bauing.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.84.154]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id MAA18424 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 12:24:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pierre@localhost) by venus (8.6.11/8.6.9HRZsrv) id SAA04788; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 18:18:47 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 18:24:10 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: pierre@st.bauing.th-darmstadt.DE (Thomas Pierre Schweikle) Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk & Linux Kernel 2.0.30 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! I^ve gota problem launching netatalk on my linux box. It gives me the message: > pan:/usr/lib/atalk/etc # ./rc.atalk > starting appletalk daemons:socket: Invalid argument > atalkd nbprgstr papd afpd. The kernel was compiled with DDP-support as module. Now I heared that with kernel 2.0.30 the DDP-support is broken. Shall I be better of using kernel 2.0.29? Or is there a patch available from someone? -- Thomas Schweikle From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Jul 28 18:46:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id SAA09444; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 18:46:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from platypus.webeasy.com by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with SMTP id SAA09440; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 18:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31997 invoked from network); 28 Jul 1997 14:51:11 -0000 Received: from possum.webeasy.com (207.155.5.3) by platypus.webeasy.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 1997 14:51:11 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970728154448.00ff32d0@mailhost.webeasy.com> X-Sender: mamster@mailhost.webeasy.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 15:44:48 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu From: Michael Amster Subject: [netatalk-admins] Printing problems with Netatalk-1.4b2 / MacOS 7.6.1 / Linux 2.0.30 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi: I have looked for an answer in the FAQs for this one, but have not found it: When printing from a MacOS 7.6.1 machine, the print job hangs "checking the printer's attributes". This same setup used to work with MacOS 7.5.3. I have a papd.conf file with: hplj4mp:pr=lp:pd=/usr/local/atalk/etc/HP4MP6_1.PPD:op=root: Checking the nbplkup shows: hplj4mp:LaserWriter 65280.128 Lastly, after a few moments of trying, the Mac screen gives an alert: The document "blah" failed to print on the printer "hplj4mp" because the connection to the printer closed unexpectedly. Mac config: System 7.6.1, LaserWriter Driver 8.4.1, Chooser using LaserWrite GX. I'm a Unix guy, so forgive me if I've made an obvious Mac error. -MA ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-WEBEASY-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Michael Amster mamster@webeasy.com 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 300 Tel: 310.574.5339 Marina Del Rey, CA 90292 Fax: 310.574.5327 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 29 02:03:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id CAA23612; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 02:03:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id CAA23608; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 02:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA03687 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 02:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA03548 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 02:02:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from venus (venus.st.bauing.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.84.154]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id CAA03379 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 02:01:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from pierre@localhost) by venus (8.6.11/8.6.9HRZsrv) id HAA07627; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 07:55:31 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 08:00:56 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: pierre@st.bauing.th-darmstadt.DE (Thomas Pierre Schweikle) Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk & Linux Kernel 2.0.30 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! > I=B4ve gota problem launching netatalk on my linux box. It gives me the me= ssage: >> pan:/usr/lib/atalk/etc # ./rc.atalk >> starting appletalk daemons:socket: Invalid argument >> atalkd nbprgstr papd afpd. > The kernel was compiled with DDP-support as module. > Now I heared that with kernel 2.0.30 the DDP-support is broken. Shall I be > better of using kernel 2.0.29? Or is there a patch available from someone? This was my question. Here some aditional info: Modules are loaded dynamicaly using the kernel daemon. This works with all other network modules. Here is the services file (sniped) I use: # # Appletalk # rtmp 1/ddp # Routing Table Maintenance Protocol nbp 2/ddp # Name Binding Protocol echo 4/ddp # AppleTalk Echo Protocol zip 6/ddp # Zone Information Protocol and here the protocols file (sniped): ip 0 IP # internet protocol, pseudo protocol number icmp 1 ICMP # internet control message protocol igmp 2 IGMP # internet group multicast protocol ggp 3 GGP # gateway-gateway protocol tcp 6 TCP # transmission control protocol pup 12 PUP # PARC universal packet protocol udp 17 UDP # user datagram protocol idp 22 IDP # WhatsThis? raw 255 RAW # RAW IP interface I hope this aditional Information is helpfull! Seems I missed something somwhere. -- Thomas Schweikle -- Thomas Schweikle From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 29 08:52:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id IAA11467; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 08:52:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA11463; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 08:52:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA19149 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 08:52:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA18682 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 08:50:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sanderson.ma.slu.se (sanderson.ma.slu.se [130.238.122.67]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA18275 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 08:49:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by sanderson.ma.slu.se (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA00234; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:49:36 +0200 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:49:35 +0200 (MET DST) From: Svante Anderson X-Sender: root@sanderson.ma.slu.se Reply-To: Svante Anderson To: linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] ? "SO_BROADCAST: Fix your netatalk..." in kernel > 2.1.46 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi listers, I have got the message "SO_BROADCAST: Fix your netatalk as it will break before 2.2" in kernel 2.1.46 and pre-2.1.48-1 when I boot them up. And in the log it reads: Jul 24 12:31:47 sanderson atalkd[101]: restart (1.4b2) Jul 24 12:31:48 sanderson atalkd[101]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 Jul 24 12:31:48 sanderson kernel: SO_BROADCAST: Fix your netatalk as it will break before 2.2 Jul 24 12:31:48 sanderson atalkd[101]: zip gnireply from 53300.70 (eth0 12) As I understands it. It is something in the kernel and netatalk (ver 1.4b2) or the configuration of netatalk that do not match. I supose that 2.2 means linux kernel version 2.2.x but what am I suposed to fix? I have looked in /usr/src/linux/Documentation to se if something was writen there but i did not find any thing. Svante --- INFORMATION is the difference between the ability TO SEE or NOT. --- SLU, Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences, Uppsala, Sweden Department Of Environmental Assessment Computer and Datamodelling Unit Svante Anderson SLU Phone: +46 (0)18 67 30 02 (office) Inst. f. 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"SO_BROADCAST: Fix your netatalk..." in kernel > 2.1.46 To: svante.anderson@ma.slu.se Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 19:42:54 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: from "Svante Anderson" at Jul 29, 97 02:49:35 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Jul 24 12:31:48 sanderson kernel: SO_BROADCAST: Fix your netatalk as it > will break before 2.2 > Jul 24 12:31:48 sanderson atalkd[101]: zip gnireply from 53300.70 (eth0 > 12) > > As I understands it. It is something in the kernel and netatalk (ver > 1.4b2) or the configuration of netatalk that do not match. UMich netatalk doesn't set SO_BROADCAST on sockets that broadcast. If we want 2.2 to meet POSIX 1003.1g we should be enforcing this rule. Someone needs to put a few int one=1; setsockopt(some_sock_fd, SOL_SOCKET, SO_BROADCAST,&one,sizeof(one)); calls into the atalkd for its broadcast stuff From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 29 13:44:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA02259; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from snyoneab.oneonta.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA02254; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:43:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu by snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu (PMDF V5.1-7 #18385) id <01ILT7E92OF48Y7RDQ@snyoneva.cc.oneonta.edu> for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:42:03 EDT Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:42:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Josh Mayers Subject: [netatalk-admins] 1.4b2 with Linux & Shadow To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, The docs I've found for Netatalk 1.4b2 say: "The netatalk 1.4b2 package doesn't need the patch. Just compile with -DSHADOWPW" I'm not certain what exactly that means: I've tried "make -DSHADOWPW" with no success. Can someone clarify this for me? Thanks Josh Mayers From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 29 14:10:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA03878; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:10:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA03873; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:10:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA23377 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:10:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA23371 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:10:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beijing.itri.loyola.edu (mstone@beijing.itri.loyola.edu [144.126.176.216]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA23367 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:10:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mstone@localhost) by beijing.itri.loyola.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA08131; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:09:59 -0400 Message-ID: <19970729140959.50925@beijing.itri.loyola.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:09:59 -0400 From: Michael Stone To: Thomas Pierre Schweikle Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk & Linux Kernel 2.0.30 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: ; from Thomas Pierre Schweikle on Tue, Jul 29, 1997 at 08:00:56AM +0200 X-Pgp-Fingerprint: 53 FF 38 00 E7 DD 0A 9C 84 52 84 C5 EE DF 7C 88 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Quoting Thomas Pierre Schweikle (pierre@st.bauing.th-darmstadt.DE): > This was my question. Here some aditional info: > > Modules are loaded dynamicaly using the kernel daemon. This works with all > other network modules. > and here the protocols file (sniped): > > ip 0 IP # internet protocol, pseudo protocol number > icmp 1 ICMP # internet control message protocol > igmp 2 IGMP # internet group multicast protocol > ggp 3 GGP # gateway-gateway protocol > tcp 6 TCP # transmission control protocol > pup 12 PUP # PARC universal packet protocol > udp 17 UDP # user datagram protocol > idp 22 IDP # WhatsThis? > raw 255 RAW # RAW IP interface > > I hope this aditional Information is helpfull! Seems I missed something > somwhere. Hmm. When you were sniping the protocols file, did you maybe snipe out the line that says: ddp 37 DDP # Datagram Delivery Protocol I don't know if that will make a difference. -- Michael Stone, Sysadmin, ITRI PGP: key 1024/76556F95 from mit keyserver, mstone@itri.loyola.edu finger, or email with "Subject: get pgp key" From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 29 14:26:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA04738; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:26:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ehsn3.cen.uiuc.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA04732; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:26:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (jluther@localhost) by ehsn3.cen.uiuc.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA21557; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:26:12 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 13:26:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Luther X-Sender: jluther@ehsn3.cen.uiuc.edu To: Josh Mayers cc: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 1.4b2 with Linux & Shadow In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-No-Archive: Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 29 Jul 1997, Josh Mayers wrote: > The docs I've found for Netatalk 1.4b2 say: > > "The netatalk 1.4b2 package doesn't need the patch. Just compile with > -DSHADOWPW" > > I'm not certain what exactly that means: I've tried "make > -DSHADOWPW" with no success. Can someone clarify this for me? In the netatalk-1.4b2/sys/ directory, edit the makefile for your platform. Add -DSHADOWPW to the OPTOPTS= line. That's what I did, and it worked for me. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Jul 29 18:43:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id SAA15227; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:43:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA15211; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:43:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA21220 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:43:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA21178 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:42:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA21143 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id PAA25348; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 15:42:29 -0700 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 15:42:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: Miles Nordin cc: Mike Durian , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] routing problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Miles Nordin wrote: > Second, there is one more thing you need to know that he didn't tell you. > There is an ordedr this has to be done in. > > 1. Shut off _every_ mac on all four subnets. NO EXCEPTIONS. maybe use > nbplkup starting atalkd one net at a time to ensure this. > 2. Start atalkd on the FreeBSD machine with Bill's suggested atalkd.conf > 3. Restart all the Mac's. > > Mac's only choose their node address once at boot. If there is no router > on the subnet, they will choose the zoneless nets above 65280. If there > is a router, they will choose an address that falls in the acceptable > range indicated by the router. but, you cannot start a -seed router if: > > a. there is another seed router on the subnet, or > b. there is a Mac on the subnet powered on that did not boot under > the controlling influence of the seed router you are trying to > bring up. (sorry for the delay; I've been moving across town) I looked into it more, and you're kinda right. If there's no router around when a mac boots, it will pick an address in the routerless nets above 65280. If a router later shows up, it won't change its address. Inside Appletalk v2 even says so. :-) I don't think that'll mess up the router's booting with -seed, though, as atalkd listens for other routers on the wire. Normal mac clients shouldn't respond, so there won't be a problem. Please let me know if that's wrong. Also, I don't think you have to have the macs off before booting the server/router. You just have to restart them after the router comes up before they will do appletalk correctly. Also, you only have to restart the macs if they booted with the router off, or with the router in a different configuration. So if the router just goes down, you can restart it in the same configuration, and the macs are fine. The latter's why I've never run into the problem. Our FastPaths are never down for long, and the net number has been in place for about 7 or 8 years. :-) Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 30 00:13:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id AAA23964; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:13:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from us.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id AAA23928; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id AAA13608; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id AAA13606; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:12:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [141.211.224.54] by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id AAA13595; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:12:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:12:45 -0400 From: Roy Hockett Reply-To: royboy@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] routing problem To: Bill Studenmund , Miles Nordin cc: Mike Durian , netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 29 Jul 1997 15:42:29 -0700 (PDT) skippy@macro.stanford.edu (Bill Studenmund) wrote: >On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, Miles Nordin wrote: > >> Mac's only choose their node address once at boot. Appletalk devices AARP for network node information any time appletalk services are started up, whether this be at startup or when you move a mac from localtalk to ethernet. >I don't think that'll mess up the router's booting with -seed, though, as >atalkd listens for other routers on the wire. Normal mac clients >shouldn't respond, so there won't be a problem. Please let me know if that's >wrong. Mac clients will not respond, however, other appletalk routers will, such as routers, netware servers routing appletalk (3.1x servers providing appletalk services), HP directjet cards, will all respond to the router query for existing network info on the network. However, if appletalk routing devices agree on the network number/range, zone names, and default zone for the network then bringing up a new router should not be a problem. >Also, I don't think you have to have the macs off before booting the >server/router. You just have to restart them after the router comes up >before they will do appletalk correctly. Also, you only have to restart >the macs if they booted with the router off, or with the router in a >different configuration. So if the router just goes down, you can >restart it in the same configuration, and the macs are fine. You shouldn't have to restart them only toggle their network connection from ethernet to localtalk, back to ethernet. With Open Transport you shouldn't even need to taggle it, but just open the "AppleTalk" control panel and it will pole the network to see if there is a router. -Roy Hockett /********************************************************************/ /* Roy Hockett * Telephone: (313) 763-7325 */ /* Systems Resource Programmer, * FAX: (313) 763-2180 */ /* ITD, * Internet: royboy@umich.edu */ /* University of Michigan * AppleLink: A0366 */ /********************************************************************/ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 30 00:47:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id AAA00234; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:47:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id AAA00229; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:47:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA27265 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:47:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA27262 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:47:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server.greystoneapts.com (root@bl1.bozemanlegg.com [207.159.33.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id AAA27257 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:47:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by server.greystoneapts.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA24675 for ; Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:46:30 -0700 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:46:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Fisher To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Appletalk Printing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm setting up a print server on RedHat 4.2 and I want to connect to an AppleTalk compatible printer. The only information that I've found points to a web page that no longer exists. Does anyone know how to get linux to talk to an appletalk printer, or at least a current valid reference? Also, I was wondering if anyone else was experiencing a problem with netatalk 1.3.3 and MacOS 8. On my linux fileserver, when logged on and viewing a directory from a mac, the files and directories literally bounce around the screen. Along with this, the number of total items in the directory also change. Does anyone have a possible solution? Does v1.4b fix this? Thanks, Eric Fisher From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 30 09:03:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA19442; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 09:03:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA19436; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 09:03:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA07284 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 09:03:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA07281 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 09:03:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.ilan.net (ns.ilan.net [207.211.122.25]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA07276 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 09:03:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from arthur.rothwell.holly-springs.nc.us (ip116.raleigh2.nc.pub-ip.psi.net [38.30.39.116]) by ns.ilan.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27460; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 09:03:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707301303.JAA27460@ns.ilan.net> From: "Michael Rothwell" To: "Eric Fisher" , Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Appletalk Printing Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 08:50:11 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Look at: http://artoo.hitchcock.org/~flowerpt/projects/linux-netatalk/ghostscript.htm l http://thehamptons.com/anders/netatalk/ http://eats.com/linux_mac_win.html I've used the information in the above documents to print to Apple laserwriters, Canon copiers and Canon color printers. It works (and for the canons, it works better than tcp/ip printing). Michael Rothwell Holly Springs, NC rothwell@holly-springs.nc.us ---------- > From: Eric Fisher > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Subject: [netatalk-admins] Appletalk Printing > Date: Wednesday, July 30, 1997 12:46 AM > > I'm setting up a print server on RedHat 4.2 and I want to connect to an > AppleTalk compatible printer. The only information that I've found points > to a web page that no longer exists. Does anyone know how to get linux to > talk to an appletalk printer, or at least a current valid reference? > > Also, I was wondering if anyone else was experiencing a problem with > netatalk 1.3.3 and MacOS 8. On my linux fileserver, when logged on and > viewing a directory from a mac, the files and directories literally bounce > around the screen. Along with this, the number of total items in the > directory also change. Does anyone have a possible solution? Does > v1.4b fix this? > > Thanks, > Eric Fisher > > From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 30 09:21:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA20008; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 09:21:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA20004; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 09:21:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA13484 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 09:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA13481 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 09:21:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laplace.math-info.univ-paris5.fr (laplace.math-info.univ-paris5.fr [193.48.200.44]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA13318 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 09:21:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laplace (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by laplace.math-info.univ-paris5.fr (thee-0.1 test config/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA12565 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 15:21:54 +0200 Message-ID: <33DF3FF2.76F50358@math-info.univ-paris5.fr> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 15:21:54 +0200 From: Eddy Thesee Organization: UFR MATH-INFO Universite Paris 5 Rene Descartes X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Appletalk Printing References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Eric Fisher wrote: > Does anyone know how to get linux to > talk to an appletalk printer, or at least a current valid reference? > Try one of these links: http://thehamptons.com/anders/netatalk/ or http://www.giub.unibe.ch/~eugster/appleprint.html greetings, Eddy. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 30 10:40:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA21812; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 10:40:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA21808; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 10:40:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA04808 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 10:40:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA04802 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 10:40:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from guardian.intouch.org ([209.49.128.130]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA04795 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 10:40:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [209.49.128.6] by guardian.intouch.org for id KAA05376; Wed Jul 30 10:40:14 1997 Received: by theway.fba.org via sendmail with stdio id for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 10:33:35 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #6 built 1997-Jul-28) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 10:33:35 -0400 (EDT) In-reply-to: (message from Roy Hockett on Wed, 30 Jul 1997 00:12:45 -0400) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] routing problem To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Jeffrey Thompson Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >atalkd listens for other routers on the wire. Normal mac clients >shouldn't respond, so there won't be a problem. Please let me know if that's >wrong. Mac clients will not respond, however, other appletalk routers will, such as routers, netware servers routing appletalk (3.1x servers providing appletalk services), HP directjet cards, will all respond to the router query for existing network info on the network. However, if appletalk routing devices agree on the network number/range, zone names, and default zone for the network then bringing up a new router should not be a problem. I thought macs broadcasted their address every so often? It should be the case that atalkd would listen for mac clients that may want to use it's services. My problem is, when mac clients are turned on, after atalkd starts, that the mac clients can't use the atlakd service. But that's not what happens with our AppleShare server. It simply doesn't matter if your mac is on or not, the AppleShare server listens for additional clients coming online. Since I can't rely on an atalkd connection, it makes atalkd all but unusable in a mac network. >Also, I don't think you have to have the macs off before booting the >server/router. You just have to restart them after the router comes up >before they will do appletalk correctly. Strange. Why does AppleShare not act this way? I'm contemplating switching to Columbia Appletalk Server, CAP. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Jul 30 14:07:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA00346; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:07:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA00342; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:07:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA22902 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:07:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA22869 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:07:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA22842 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:07:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id LAA28901; Wed, 30 Jul 1997 11:07:30 -0700 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 11:07:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: Jeffrey Thompson cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] routing problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Jeffrey Thompson wrote: > >atalkd listens for other routers on the wire. Normal mac clients > >shouldn't respond, so there won't be a problem. Please let me know if > that's > >wrong. > > Mac clients will not respond, however, other appletalk routers will, > such as routers, netware servers routing appletalk (3.1x servers > providing appletalk services), HP directjet cards, will all respond to > the router query for existing network info > on the network. However, if appletalk routing devices agree on the > network number/range, zone names, and default zone for the network then > bringing up a new router should not be a problem. > > I thought macs broadcasted their address every so often? It should be > the case that atalkd would listen for mac clients that may want to use > it's services. My problem is, when mac clients are turned on, after > atalkd starts, that the mac clients can't use the atlakd service. But > that's not what happens with our AppleShare server. It simply doesn't matter > if your mac is on or not, the AppleShare server listens for additional > clients coming online. Since I can't rely on an atalkd connection, it makes > atalkd all but unusable in a mac network. Appletalk ROUTERS broadcast their address every so often. Actually, on phase 2 nets, I think they limit themselves to the multicast addresses. Is you appleshare server trying to be a router? If not, then what you describe above makes sense. It's not the fact that atalkd will permit file sharing, but that atalkd acts as a router. When atalkd fires up, the wire goes from routerless to with-router. If your Appleshare server is just a file server, it doesn't touch the router question, so its presance won't change the net numbers on the wire. I'm puzzled by the latter half of your comment above. If atalkd is acting as a router (really linking nets together), why isn't it up 24/24 7/7? If it's not going to be up all the time, then a better choice would be to run it (atalkd and your net) routerless. Don't add a "-seed" to the atalkd.conf line for that net. Then your net won't be going from router to routerless all the time. > >Also, I don't think you have to have the macs off before booting the > >server/router. You just have to restart them after the router comes up > >before they will do appletalk correctly. > > Strange. Why does AppleShare not act this way? As above, it's not the file serving of netatalk (afpd), but the routing, which is the problem. > I'm contemplating switching to Columbia Appletalk Server, CAP. I think you'll have the same problem with CAP, if you configure it the same (if you configure UAR to seed the network but don't have UAR up all the time). Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 31 04:44:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id EAA26775; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:44:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA26771; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:44:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA05807 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:44:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA05804 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:44:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nsp (nsp.freeway.de [194.163.75.34]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id EAA05799 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:44:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.163.75.220] (fre-p400-netsurf220.giessen.netsurf.de) by nsp (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06075; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 10:49:39 +0200 Message-Id: <9707310849.AA06075@nsp> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Personal LaserWriter II at Linux Box Date: Don, 31 Jul 97 10:58:47 -0000 X-Sender: nk00246@nsp.freeway.de X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Matthias Koerner To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have got an Linux Box running netatalk 1.3. The box is connected to = an NecP7 24 needle printer, the printer is served to all connected = Macs with netatlk and to the windows machines with samba, this works = fine. But I have got an old Personal LaserWriter II, and I want to serve = this printer also to the Macs and to the Win Machines. Actually the LaserWriter is connected via LocalTalk to the Macs, so = the Mac Users have to switch in the ControlField "Network" from = EtherTalk to LocalTalk. Second the Windows Users can't use the = LasewrWriter. Unfortunally the documentation for the LaserWriter is lost. I only = see a MiniDB 8 (like the serial ports at the mac) and an SubD 25 = (like the scsi interface at the macs) at the back of the LaserWriter. Questions: Is it possible to make the LaserWriter talking with the Linux Box via = serial interface? What have I to do therefor? Matthias Koerner DGB Jugendbuero Mitte Walltorstra=DFe 17 35390 Giessen From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 31 05:57:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id FAA27444; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 05:57:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id FAA27440; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 05:57:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA10127 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 05:57:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA10125 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 05:57:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jots1.ca.metsci.com (jots1.ca.metsci.com [199.106.147.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id FAA10115 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 05:57:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by jots1.ca.metsci.com with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA22712; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 02:56:58 -0700 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 02:56:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Solmssen Reply-To: Andrew Solmssen To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Cc: Matthias Koerner Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Personal LaserWriter II at Linux Box In-Reply-To: <9707310849.AA06075@nsp> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu You can get program off Apple's web site called LaserWriter Bridge that will allow one mac to stay connected to the ethernet and localtalk at teh same time. The printer will be visible on the ethernet. then set it up in printcap using pap/psf. then it will be visible to PC's via samba as well. =20 On 31 xxx -1, Matthias Koerner wrote: > I have got an Linux Box running netatalk 1.3. The box is connected to an = NecP7 24 needle printer, the printer is served to all connected Macs with n= etatlk and to the windows machines with samba, this works fine. > But I have got an old Personal LaserWriter II, and I want to serve this p= rinter also to the Macs and to the Win Machines. > Actually the LaserWriter is connected via LocalTalk to the Macs, so the M= ac Users have to switch in the ControlField "Network" from EtherTalk to Lo= calTalk. Second the Windows Users can't use the LasewrWriter. > Unfortunally the documentation for the LaserWriter is lost. I only see a = MiniDB 8 (like the serial ports at the mac) and an SubD 25 (like the scsi i= nterface at the macs) at the back of the LaserWriter. > Questions: > Is it possible to make the LaserWriter talking with the Linux Box via ser= ial interface? What have I to do therefor? >=20 >=20 >=20 > Matthias Koerner > DGB Jugendbuero Mitte > Walltorstra=DFe 17 > 35390 Giessen >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 31 06:46:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id GAA28159; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 06:46:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA28154; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 06:46:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA15082 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 06:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA15078 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 06:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sys3.cambridge.uk.psi.net (sys3.cambridge.uk.psi.net [154.32.106.10]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA15074 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 06:45:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net [154.32.106.14]) by sys3.cambridge.uk.psi.net (8.8.4/) with ESMTP id LAA03948 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:45:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from nan.UUCP by sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (8.7.5/SMI-5.5-UKPSINet) id LAA05487; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:34:14 +0100 (BST) Received: by mailhost.nan.co.uk (sendmail 8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA19668; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:33:17 +0100 X-Sender: sw@mailhost.nan.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9707310849.AA06075@nsp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 3.1 Organization: Network Analysis Ltd Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:33:08 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Sak Wathanasin Subject: Re:[netatalk-admins] Personal LaserWriter II at Linux Box Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In reply to Matthias Koerner's message of the 31/07/97 at 10:58 +0000, > Is it possible to make the LaserWriter talking with the Linux Box via serial >interface? > What have I to do therefor? It is rumoured that there is a Linux driver for the old Apple/Farallon LocalTalk ISA-card if you can find one... However, the simplest thing to do is to buy a LocalTalk-EtherTalk bridge. Various people make these (Dayna and Sonic Systems come to mind, but there are others). The cheapest one supports 2 LT devices and costs under UKP 150, and much less second-hand (from sites that have converted from LT to all ethernet). You can often find one of these sitting around in the sys admin's desk-drawer on, say, Univ's that have lots of Macs. That's how I got my Dayna EtherPrint - a local site that had converted their Mac LAN to etherTalk had one in a store room covered in dust, so I did a swap for 2 X 10-BT "friendlyNet" adaptors (:-). If money is an issue, and you are prepared to leave one of the Macs running all the time, you can run LaserWriter Bridge (free from ftp.apple.com) on one of the Macs and use that Mac as the bridge. In both cases, your LocalTalk and EtherTalk nets are combined into a single net and all devices can be accessed from either the ET or LT side*. Thus, you will be able to print to the LW II from Linux using "pap" (NB not papd) or through lp/lpr with appr printcap entries. We have an LW 4/600 that we use this way. * NB. Apple's LW Bridge has been deliberately crippled so that the only LT device that you can have is a single LW printer. You can, however, buy Apple's LocalTalk Bridge which is a general purpose bridge for US$50 if you have other LT devices that you want to connect (PowerBooks, Newtons etc). Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK Internet: sw@nan.co.uk Phone: (+44) 1203 419996 Fax: (+44) 1203 690690 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 31 15:47:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA11456; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:47:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA11450; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:47:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA07002 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:47:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA06962 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:47:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.acm.org (mail.acm.org [199.222.69.4]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA06930 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:46:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orbit.bgb-consulting.com (1Cust98.max3.dallas.tx.ms.uu.net [153.35.177.98]) by mail.acm.org (8.8.5/8.7.5) with ESMTP id PAA921724 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:45:13 -0400 Message-ID: <33E0EBBD.8F557786@acm.org> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:47:09 -0500 From: Don Garrett Organization: BGB Consulting X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] MacOS 8 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have just installed MacOS 8, and have found some odd behaviour. I use my Linux machine to share files between PCs and Macs. Mac OS 8 is having trouble copying files that have no resource forks. If you open the folder containing the file, a resource fork is created, and the file will copy properly. However, if I have a directory hierarchy several layers deep, and try to copy it in one move, the problem can appear. The mac stops for each such file and reports "The file "X" couldn't be read, because it cannot be found. Do you want to continue copying?" Has anyone else seen this problem? On a brighter note, file access seems to be much faster from Macs when copying large folders. PS: I've just rejoined the netatalk mailing list, so I apologize if this has been a recent topic of discussion. I did check the archives first. -- Don Garrett dgarrett@acm.org BGB Consulting http://home.earthlink.net/~dongar/ From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 31 17:32:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id RAA16825; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 17:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id RAA16820; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 17:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id RAA16818; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 17:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA16814; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 17:31:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707312131.RAA16814@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: netatalk@umich.edu To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] AppleShare Client Available? Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 17:31:56 -0400 X-Sender: epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu bounced by Majordomo ... resent to you ... ------- Forwarded Message >From epcordes Thu Jul 31 12:06:51 1997 Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id MAA04307; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id MAA04298; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:06:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA04293; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:06:47 -0400 (EDT) Resent-Message-Id: <199707311606.MAA04293@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Received: from judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA03695; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:28:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA06500 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:28:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA06492 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:28:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from universe.digex.net (universe.digex.net [205.197.245.199]) by judgmentday.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id LAA06488 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:28:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (murchiso@localhost) by universe.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA26514 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:28:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:28:08 -0400 (EDT) From: murchiso To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: AppleShare Client Available? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:06:47 -0400 Resent-From: Evan P Cordes Hello, I'm basically looking for a way to mirror several Mac-based AppleShare servers from my Sun, then present the files via a local netatalk server and/or web server. I have done the latter, but so far a true UNIX based AppleShare client that is smart enough to do a true mirror (only grab new/updated files, remove/alert on deleted files) and would greatly appreciate any info on commercial or public domain solutions. Thanks in advance for any info/pointers, - -r ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 31 18:06:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id SAA18168; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:06:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA18164; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA20943 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA20941 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:06:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (wuaIgbY1OO3MJh09oNgprhmJMaVrl6dj@zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA20936 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:06:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21759 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:06:40 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA19999; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707312206.PAA19999@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] version a13 of my netatalk patches is now available Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu you can get my a13 patches at ftp.u.washington.edu. pick and choose: if you're applying diffs, make sure to use something like the following: patch -d -p1 what this version does: 1) fixes a desktop icon bug that inadvertantly crept in. if your .AppleDesktop has been modified by my patches, you MUST delete the contents. crashes may happen if you don't. sorry about that one. 2) adds singing and dancing configuration files. look in config/afpd.conf for more info. you can do wondrous things like kill -HUP; kill -HUP to perform server re-configurations. 3) adds in a modified version of redhat's PAM patches. it's on for Linux machines by default now. i've also added the ability to change passwords if desired. that option is off by default. redhat's sample PAM entry is in config/netatalk.pamd. 4) hopefully fixes constant updates by not sending server notifications anymore. 5) should compile and run under solaris. it turns out that the solaris STREAMS module doesn't like setsockopt. you'll get a warning letting you know about that. 6) interactive response might be a teensy bit snappier as i now combine header and data writes to clients. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 31 18:12:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id SAA18480; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:12:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA18476; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:12:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA03794 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:12:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA03785 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:12:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA03776 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:12:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21801 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:12:00 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA20022; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707312211.PAA20022@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199707312206.PAA19999@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> (message from a sun on Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:06:38 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] version a13 of my netatalk patches is now available Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu erk. of course, i got the urls wrong. here are the real ones: -a From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 31 20:26:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id UAA21459; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:26:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA21452; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:26:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA29795 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:26:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA29790 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:26:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx2.zenith.com (mx2.zenith.com [207.94.25.243]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA26682 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:09:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zenithe.com (unverified [136.166.62.64]) by mx2.zenith.com (Integralis SMTPRS 2.02) with SMTP id ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 19:11:52 -0500 Received: from [136.166.70.20] by zenithe.com (4.1/ZEC-3.04) id AA08532; Thu, 31 Jul 97 19:16:59 CDT Message-Id: <9708010016.AA08532@zenithe.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and large shared volumes? Date: Thu, 31 Jul 97 19:10:15 -0500 X-Sender: dmgbbur@tvgurus.zenithe.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Ben Burch To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu When I connect to a very large volume using netatalk, none of the numbers reported by the Mac Finder are correct. Especially a problem is that it thinks I have only about 80 MB free on a volume that has many GB free. I understand that this is some sort of numeric overflow, but I am unsure as to how to correct it. Have any of you folks had the same difficulty? Many thanks! -- "Love is the law, love under will." Ben Burch ben.burch@zenith.com From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 31 20:34:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id UAA21942; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:34:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA21935; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:34:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA01449 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:34:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA01445 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:34:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx2.zenith.com (mx2.zenith.com [207.94.25.243]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA01441 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:34:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zenithe.com (unverified [136.166.62.64]) by mx2.zenith.com (Integralis SMTPRS 2.02) with SMTP id ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 19:11:52 -0500 Received: from [136.166.70.20] by zenithe.com (4.1/ZEC-3.04) id AA08532; Thu, 31 Jul 97 19:16:59 CDT Message-Id: <9708010016.AA08532@zenithe.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and large shared volumes? Date: Thu, 31 Jul 97 19:10:15 -0500 X-Sender: dmgbbur@tvgurus.zenithe.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Ben Burch To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu When I connect to a very large volume using netatalk, none of the numbers reported by the Mac Finder are correct. Especially a problem is that it thinks I have only about 80 MB free on a volume that has many GB free. I understand that this is some sort of numeric overflow, but I am unsure as to how to correct it. Have any of you folks had the same difficulty? Many thanks! -- "Love is the law, love under will." Ben Burch ben.burch@zenith.com From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Jul 31 20:56:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id UAA23645; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:56:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA23641; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:56:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA23647 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:56:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA23645 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:56:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (root@fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA23641 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:56:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nexgen.hiwaay.net by fly.HiWAAY.net; (8.8.6/1.1.8.2/21Sep95-1003PM) id TAA22701; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 19:56:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from nexgen (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nexgen.hiwaay.net (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA17661; Thu, 31 Jul 1997 19:55:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199708010055.TAA17661@nexgen.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Matthias Koerner cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: dkelly@hiwaay.net Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Personal LaserWriter II at Linux Box In-reply-to: Message from Matthias Koerner of "Don, 31 Jul 97 10:58:47 -0000 ." <9707310849.AA06075@nsp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 19:55:57 -0500 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu matthias.koerner@giessen.netsurf.de said: > I have got an Linux Box running netatalk 1.3. The box is connected to > an NecP7 24 needle printer, the printer is served to all connected > Macs with netatlk and to the windows machines with samba, this works > fine. But I have got an old Personal LaserWriter II, and I want to > serve this printer also to the Macs and to the Win Machines. Actually > the LaserWriter is connected via LocalTalk to the Macs, so the Mac > Users have to switch in the ControlField "Network" from EtherTalk to > LocalTalk. Second the Windows Users can't use the LasewrWriter. > Unfortunally the documentation for the LaserWriter is lost. I only see > a MiniDB 8 (like the serial ports at the mac) and an SubD 25 (like the > scsi interface at the macs) at the back of the LaserWriter. Questions: > Is it possible to make the LaserWriter talking with the Linux Box via > serial interface? What have I to do therefor? As others have already suggested, LaserWriter Bridge from Apple's ftp site. You won't find it by that name there, you want this awful URL: http://swupdates.info.apple.com/cgi-bin/pointer.pl?Apple.Support.Area/Apple. Software.Updates/Worldwide/Macintosh/Networking-Communications/Network.Softw are.Installer/ZM-NSI_1.5.1.sea.hqx The above is probably preferable as you've mentioned at least some of the Macs have LocalTalk and ethernet. Another solution is to connect the LaserWriter via serial port. The 8 pin mini-din is capable of running plain serial but its rarely advertised. One thing I recal from elsewhere, the LaserWriter II requires the sender to stop RIGHT NOW when the hardware handshake says to. Crumby PC serial ports such as 16550's can't stop that which is already in the FIFO. You have to either drop the data rate or disable the 16550 FIFO. Rather than purchase an ethernet to localtalk adapter, upgrade the LaserWriter II (its not really a Personal LaserWriter II is it?) to a IIf or IIg with a faster digital engine plus ethernet. http://www.shrevesystems.com/ is a good place to start. Just checked and didn't see any printer MB's but they list them in their printed advertisments. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 1 06:39:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id GAA21483; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 06:39:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA21479; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 06:39:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA01011 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 06:39:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA01009 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 06:39:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay2.mail.uk.psi.net (sys1.london.uk.psi.net [154.32.108.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA01001 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 06:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net [154.32.106.14]) by relay2.mail.uk.psi.net (8.8.4/) with ESMTP id LAA21577 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:39:13 +0100 (BST) Received: from nan.UUCP by sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (8.7.5/SMI-5.5-UKPSINet) id LAA16185; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:03:49 +0100 (BST) Received: by mailhost.nan.co.uk (sendmail 8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA23068; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 10:24:11 +0100 X-Sender: sw@mailhost.nan.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9707310849.AA06075@nsp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 3.1 Organization: Network Analysis Ltd Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 10:24:01 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Sak Wathanasin Subject: Re:[netatalk-admins] Personal LaserWriter II at Linux Box Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In reply to Matthias Koerner's message of the 31/07/97 at 10:58 +0000, > Unfortunally the documentation for the LaserWriter is lost. I only see a >MiniDB > 8 (like the serial ports at the mac) and an SubD 25 (like the scsi interface >at > the macs) at the back of the LaserWriter. Come to think of it, both the DIN-8 and D-25 ports are serial ports and so the printer can be connected to the Linux box's serial port as a serial (PS) printer. Then by running papd, the printer can be made visible to the Macs (just like the other printer that you have). Depending on the model of LW, there is either a switch (probably a DIP switch somewhere) or it will auto-sense. The default comms settings should be 9600, no parity, 8-bits, 1 stop bit. Try using tip/cu/whatever to talk to the printer. If you type control-T, the printer should respond with a status. You can also put the printer into interactive mode by typing executive (carefully since it doesn't echo). Then you can send any Postscript command to the printer. Eg, the following: statusdict begin 25 sccbatch pstack end should print the comms settings of the 25-pin port (9600, 0 according to the manual) Once you get this far, the rest should be straight forward (my /etc/printcap came with sample entries for the LW). You can change the comms setti ngs on the printer by executing the following bit of PS: serverdict begin 0 exitserver statusdict begin 25 57600 0 setsccbatch to change the 25-pin port to 57600 baud, no parity. It's best to send this from one of the Macs using PAP. Good luck! Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK Internet: sw@nan.co.uk Phone: (+44) 1203 419996 Fax: (+44) 1203 690690 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 1 08:09:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id IAA24298; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 08:09:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA24284; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 08:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA12521 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 08:09:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA12516 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 08:09:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.ilan.net (ns.ilan.net [207.211.122.25]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA12504 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 08:09:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from arthur.rothwell.holly-springs.nc.us (user-37kbob8.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.225.104]) by ns.ilan.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05352; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 08:09:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708011209.IAA05352@ns.ilan.net> From: "Michael Rothwell" To: "Ben Burch" , Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and large shared volumes? Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 07:56:10 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've had the same problem. I was using 1.4b2 to share a 6GB drive and a 9GB drive. The Macs, of course, reported 2GB for each. When I copied 2GB to each netatalk volumes, the Macs said that the drives were full and refused to copy any more. I copied another chunk of data to the drives from a PC (server also running samba) to push disk usage over 2GB. THe Macs then reported a negative number of free bytes available, but would copy to the drives w/o error. A little annoying... Michael Rothwell Holly Springs, NC rothwell@holly-springs.nc.us ---------- > From: Ben Burch > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and large shared volumes? > Date: Thursday, July 31, 1997 8:10 PM > > When I connect to a very large volume using netatalk, none of the numbers > reported by the Mac Finder are correct. Especially a problem is that it > thinks I have only about 80 MB free on a volume that has many GB free. I > understand that this is some sort of numeric overflow, but I am unsure as > to how to correct it. Have any of you folks had the same difficulty? > > Many thanks! > > -- > "Love is the law, love under will." > > Ben Burch > ben.burch@zenith.com > From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 1 08:47:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id IAA27053; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 08:47:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA27044; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 08:47:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA21606 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 08:47:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA21600 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 08:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (mFAzl7IRogtFHMyDmZZ8bDVWMetsJq9g@zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA21563; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 08:47:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA24941; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 05:47:20 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA20870; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 05:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 05:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708011247.FAA20870@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, netatalk@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] well, it wasn't my fault Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu it turns out that the desktop icon problem also exists in 1.4b2 itself. here's a patch for 1.4b2's desktop.c: --- desktop.c~ Fri Aug 1 05:45:05 1997 +++ desktop.c Fri Aug 1 05:45:45 1997 @@ -283,6 +283,7 @@ return( AFPERR_NOITEM ); } bcopy( ih + 10, &bsize, sizeof( u_short )); + bsize = ntohs(bsize); if ( lseek( si.sdt_fd, (long)bsize, SEEK_CUR ) < 0 ) { syslog( LOG_ERR, "afp_iconinfo: lseek: %m" ); return( AFPERR_PARAM ); From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 1 09:42:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA01465; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA01454; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:42:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA07467 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:42:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA07429 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:42:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (dkelly@fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA07395 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:42:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by fly.HiWAAY.net; (8.8.6/1.1.8.2/21Sep95-1003PM) id IAA24176; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 08:42:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 08:42:02 -0500 (CDT) From: David Kelly Message-Id: <199708011342.IAA24176@fly.HiWAAY.net> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, sw@nan.co.uk Subject: Re:[netatalk-admins] Personal LaserWriter II at Linux Box Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sak Wathanasin replies: > > Come to think of it, both the DIN-8 and D-25 ports are serial ports and so the > printer can be connected to the Linux box's serial port as a serial (PS) > printer. Then by running papd, the printer can be made visible to the Macs NO! The DB25 connector is SCSI, it is NOT serial. It will have a disk icon above it. The mini-8 will run async serial but when the output handshake goes false the sender must stop within 2 characters. 16550 UARTs can not do this if the FIFO is enabled. -- David Kelly N4HHE dkelly@hiwaay.net (hm) ====================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 1 11:11:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA06704; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:11:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA06700; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:11:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA09569 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA09444 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:10:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from leela.poc.pingnet.de (leela.poc.pingnet.de [194.148.12.129]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA09353 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:10:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.148.12.130] (powermac.poc.pingnet.de [194.148.12.130]) by leela.poc.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA04977 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 17:10:41 +0200 X-Sender: poc@leela.poc.pingnet.de (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199708011342.IAA24176@fly.HiWAAY.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 17:10:33 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: Re:[netatalk-admins] Personal LaserWriter II at Linux Box Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >NO! The DB25 connector is SCSI, it is NOT serial. Not at the original LaserWriter II. The Only II-Series LaserWriter with SCSI was the IINTX and the IIg, AFAIK. :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 1 11:42:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA08299; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:42:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA08284; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:42:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA03380 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:42:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA03216 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:42:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beijing.itri.loyola.edu (beijing.itri.loyola.edu [144.126.176.216]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA02696 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:41:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mstone@localhost) by beijing.itri.loyola.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA20947; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:40:59 -0400 Message-ID: <19970801114059.16593@beijing.itri.loyola.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:40:59 -0400 From: Michael Stone To: Patrik Schindler Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re:[netatalk-admins] Personal LaserWriter II at Linux Box References: <199708011342.IAA24176@fly.HiWAAY.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.79 In-Reply-To: ; from Patrik Schindler on Fri, Aug 01, 1997 at 05:10:33PM +0200 X-Pgp-Fingerprint: 53 FF 38 00 E7 DD 0A 9C 84 52 84 C5 EE DF 7C 88 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Quoting Patrik Schindler (poc@poc.pingnet.de): > >NO! The DB25 connector is SCSI, it is NOT serial. > > Not at the original LaserWriter II. The Only II-Series LaserWriter with SCSI was the IINTX and the IIg, AFAIK. Two questions: First, why does a printer need a scsi interface? Also, why did apple have to use DB25 for scsi? :-) -- Michael Stone, Sysadmin, ITRI PGP: key 1024/76556F95 from mit keyserver, mstone@itri.loyola.edu finger, or email with "Subject: get pgp key" From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 1 12:12:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA10691; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 12:12:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA10682; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 12:11:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA13896 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 12:11:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA13866 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 12:11:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from schubert.promo.de (schubert.Promo.DE [194.45.188.65]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA13352 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 12:10:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07735; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 18:08:42 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19970801114059.16593@beijing.itri.loyola.edu> References: ; from Patrik Schindler on Fri, Aug 01, 1997 at 05:10:33PM +0200 <199708011342.IAA24176@fly.HiWAAY.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 18:09:13 +0200 To: Michael Stone , Patrik Schindler From: Stefan Bethke Subject: Re:[netatalk-admins] Personal LaserWriter II at Linux Box Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 17:40 Uhr +0200 01.08.1997, Michael Stone wrote: >Quoting Patrik Schindler (poc@poc.pingnet.de): >> >NO! The DB25 connector is SCSI, it is NOT serial. Yes, it is serial. The IINTX and IIg use a standard Centronix 50 for SCSI. And, yes, I'm sure, I just looked at our IINTX. Btw, the Pro 630 uses a PowerBook-style connector. >> Not at the original LaserWriter II. The Only II-Series LaserWriter with >>SCSI was the IINTX and the IIg, AFAIK. > >Two questions: First, why does a printer need a scsi interface? To store ressources like fonts, procedures and patterns. Also, >why did apple have to use DB25 for scsi? :-) -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-0 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 1 13:32:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA15171; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:32:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA15163; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:32:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA26205 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA26201 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sys3.cambridge.uk.psi.net (sys3.cambridge.uk.psi.net [154.32.106.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA26193 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:31:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net [154.32.106.14]) by sys3.cambridge.uk.psi.net (8.8.4/) with ESMTP id SAA18218 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 18:31:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from nan.UUCP by sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (8.7.5/SMI-5.5-UKPSINet) id SAA25516; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 18:11:27 +0100 (BST) Received: by mailhost.nan.co.uk (sendmail 8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA23516; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 16:20:35 +0100 X-Sender: sw@mailhost.nan.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199708011342.IAA24176@fly.HiWAAY.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 3.1 Organization: Network Analysis Ltd Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 16:20:25 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Sak Wathanasin Subject: Re:[netatalk-admins] Personal LaserWriter II at Linux Box Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In reply to David Kelly's message of the 01/08/97 at 08:42 -0500, > NO! The DB25 connector is SCSI, it is NOT serial. It will have a disk icon > above it. That's true: the LW IIf and IIg (but not the LW IINT ) are listed as having SCSI ports. I was thinking of the LW and LW+ which did have a 25-pin serial port. By the way, the only II-series LW listed as having ethernet is the IIg. Also, for people downloading the LW bridge, the version that you want is in This has the patch that allows it to run on OpenTransport Macs (as well as pre-OT Macs); besides it's a much smaller download. Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK Internet: sw@nan.co.uk Phone: (+44) 1203 419996 Fax: (+44) 1203 690690 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 1 13:34:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA15276; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA15270; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:34:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA26876 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:34:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA26848 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:34:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (dkelly@fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA26809 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:34:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by fly.HiWAAY.net; (8.8.6/1.1.8.2/21Sep95-1003PM) id MAA31364; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 12:34:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 12:34:01 -0500 (CDT) From: David Kelly Message-Id: <199708011734.MAA31364@fly.HiWAAY.net> To: mstone@itri.loyola.edu, poc@poc.pingnet.de Subject: Re:[netatalk-admins] Personal LaserWriter II at Linux Box Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Michael Stone writes: > > Quoting Patrik Schindler (poc@poc.pingnet.de): > > >NO! The DB25 connector is SCSI, it is NOT serial. > > > > Not at the original LaserWriter II. The Only II-Series LaserWriter with SCSI was the IINTX and the IIg, AFAIK. The original poster has to check his printer closely. You know what a Mac disk icon looks like? There is one over the DB25 on the back of every Mac since the MacPlus. The original LaserWriter had a DB25 for serial. But every LaserWriter II I can remember has SCSI. No Personal LaserWriter has SCSI except for those which had *only* SCSI for connecting to the Mac. Those didn't have Postscript. I just found a plain non-NT non-NTX LaserWriter II and looked. Didn't see an icon for the DB25. Its suspiciously close to the LocalTalk connector to suspect serial. There are 2 DIP switches beside it. They could be used to select which port and what speed. Or they could be used for SCSI ID. > Two questions: First, why does a printer need a scsi interface? Also, > why did apple have to use DB25 for scsi? :-) A Postscript printer really is a computer and OS. It has a filesystem and a network stack. If a HD is attacted to a Postscript printer then fonts and documents and other useful Postscript code can be cached there were it wouldn't have to be uploaded again over a slow serial or LocalTalk connection. Apple used a DB25 on the original MacPlus because there wasn't room for anything bigger and the current SCSI-II connector didn't exist. Also, for original SCSI speeds the DB25 was Good Enough. To this day Macintoshs still come with an external DB25 but that SCSI bus is always limited to 5MB/sec speeds. My 8100/80 had (2) SCSI buses, one internal only at 10 MB/sec, another hosted the internal CDROM and connected externally thru a DB25. My new PowerComputing PowerCenter Pro 210 still has a slow SCSI bus on the MB with a DB25 but has an Adaptec PCI SCSI with internal and external connectors (SCSI-II) for UltraSCSI speeds. -- David Kelly N4HHE dkelly@hiwaay.net (hm) ====================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 1 13:59:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA16802; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA16777; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA17652 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA17613 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:59:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from binah.cc.brandeis.edu (binah.cc.brandeis.edu [129.64.1.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA17605 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:59:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [129.64.53.6] (gerry.math.brandeis.edu) by BINAH.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU (PMDF V5.1-7 #17138) with ESMTP id <01ILXEVCDRC0HVDNGB@BINAH.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU> for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:59:02 EST Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 13:58:58 -0400 From: Gerry Schwarz Subject: [netatalk-admins] ultrix 4.4 X-Sender: schwarz@129.64.1.3 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I saw that you had a question about netatalk running on Ultrix 4.4 three years ago. I can't find a definitive response in the mail files. I presume that the answer is `Yes?' Thanks, Gerald Schwarz Professor of Mathematics Gerry Schwarz Department of Mathematics Brandeis University PO Box 9110 Waltham, MA 02254-9110 Tel: (617) 736 3050 Fax: (617) 736 3085 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 1 14:15:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA17725; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 14:15:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA17714; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 14:15:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA22799 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 14:15:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA22778 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 14:15:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id OAA22343 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 14:14:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22913; Fri, 1 Aug 97 19:08:35 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 19:07:56 +0100 From: cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk Received: from luigi (luigi.tees) by scorch; Fri, 1 Aug 97 19:09:28 BST Date: Fri, 1 Aug 97 19:11:06 BST Message-Id: <2051.9708011811@luigi> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] formatted postscript to ascii converter Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folks, Well I finally bit the bullet and wrote my own converter, interested parties might wish to point htier browsers towards: http://www-scm.tees.ac.uk/users/j.j.barry/postscript.html Let me know if it screws up, or I've got anything wrong in the docs, etc. Right time to build XView3.2... later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 1 15:34:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA21257; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 15:34:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA21253; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 15:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA05595 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 15:34:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA05569 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 15:33:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atlantica.access.ch (atlantica.access.ch [193.246.40.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA05544 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 15:33:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [193.246.41.66] by atlantica.access.ch (8.8.5/INA-1.04) id VAA15017; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 21:33:50 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: liyanage@mail.access.ch Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 21:34:34 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Marc Liyanage Subject: [netatalk-admins] AppleShare IP Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, Recently I read a report about a patch to netatalk that adds AppleShare IP support, but I didn't find anything related to the subject. Is there really such a patch? -Marc -- _________________________________________________________________ Marc Liyanage liyanage@access.ch http://www.access.ch/ml Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted _________________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 1 16:13:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id QAA23196; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 16:13:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA23192; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 16:12:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA17464 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 16:12:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA17458 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 16:12:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (0@runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.144.15]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA17394 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 16:12:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from schubert.promo.de by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA22479; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 16:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08397; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 22:05:52 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 22:06:24 +0200 To: Marc Liyanage , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Stefan Bethke Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AppleShare IP Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 21:34 Uhr +0200 01.08.1997, Marc Liyanage wrote: >Hi, > >Recently I read a report about a patch to netatalk that >adds AppleShare IP support, but I didn't find anything related to the >subject. > >Is there really such a patch? You might have looked in the wrong places. http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk/patches/other/ Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-0 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 1 16:19:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id QAA23568; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 16:19:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA23556; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 16:19:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA01293 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 16:19:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA01285 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 16:19:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhost.capecod.net (mailhost.capecod.net [204.255.214.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA01266 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 16:19:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (nan38.capecod.net [208.204.67.38]) by mailhost.capecod.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09048 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 16:19:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 15:40:54 -0400 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Larry Coffin Subject: [netatalk-admins] Auto file permission setting Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have a Linux box that I am using as a web site development platform and am using netatalk to export the web site directory so I can edit the files on my Mac. The only problem is that when I create a file as a cgi, I have to telnet into the Linux box and manually set the file permissions to be executable. Is there some way to have netatalk recognize particular file endings and automatically set the permissions accordingly? I appologize if this is in a FAQ somewhere, I have looked at all the web sites I could find and have been subscribed to this list for a few days have have not seen a reference to a FAQ with this information. ---Larry +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Larry Coffin lcoffin@PointInfinity.com Point Infinity http://www.PointInfinity.com Nantucket, Massachusetts 508-325-6677 * fax: 325-6676 +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ This signature is false. - From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 1 19:32:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id TAA28316; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 19:32:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA28308; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 19:32:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA14848 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 19:32:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA14846 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 19:32:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sys3.cambridge.uk.psi.net (sys3.cambridge.uk.psi.net [154.32.106.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA14817 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 19:32:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net [154.32.106.14]) by sys3.cambridge.uk.psi.net (8.8.4/) with ESMTP id AAA28534 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 00:31:59 +0100 (BST) Received: from nan.UUCP by sys4.cambridge.uk.psi.net (8.7.5/SMI-5.5-UKPSINet) id AAA21870; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 00:21:48 +0100 (BST) Received: by mailhost.nan.co.uk (sendmail 8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA24650; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 23:31:49 +0100 X-Sender: sw@mailhost.nan.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199708011734.MAA31364@fly.HiWAAY.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Pro 3.1 Organization: Network Analysis Ltd Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 23:31:38 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Sak Wathanasin Subject: Re:[netatalk-admins] Personal LaserWriter II at Linux Box Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In reply to David Kelly's message of the 01/08/97 at 12:34 -0500, > connector to suspect serial. There are 2 DIP switches beside it. > They could be used to select which port and what speed. I would guess that they correspond to the 4-position rotary switch on the original LW and LW+. The 4 settings are: localtalk, serial 9600, serial 1200 and "special" (Diablo emulation). The "9600" is notional; as I mentioned in an earlier msg, you can change the port speed via PS and store it in non-volatile EPROM. Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited 178 Wainbody Ave South, Coventry CV3 6BX, UK Internet: sw@nan.co.uk Phone: (+44) 1203 419996 Fax: (+44) 1203 690690 From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Aug 2 00:42:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id AAA11543; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 00:42:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id AAA11513; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 00:42:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA16551 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 00:42:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA16549 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 00:42:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from usfirst.org (root@usfirst.org [199.125.100.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id AAA16543 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 00:42:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [199.125.100.3] (newton.usfirst.org [199.125.100.3]) by usfirst.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA00707 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 1997 23:31:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 23:31:41 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Eric Rasmussen Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems with reported file sizes - please help Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu For several months now, I have had netatalk 1.3.3 running happily on a Linux 2.0.30 system. The client Macs are running System 7.1, and 7.5.1. I recently upgraded the AFPD shared directory tree from a 100 Mb hard drive to a 3.7 Gb partition on an even larger drive. Although the unix system seems to have no trouble dealing with the large partition, the Macs are getting some crazy results. For instance, if I open a folder that resides on the Unix server, I get a mixture of positive and negative file sizes. Simple actions such as dragging a small file (<100Kb) from the desktop to the network folder now fail, telling me that it needs 900+ Mb additional space, when in reality there is over 3 Gb free. Let me reiterate that, from within a Unix shell account, it is clear that the Unix system has no trouble identifying the proper file sizes and amount of free space, nor has it had any problems moving data to/from the new partition. Is there some maximum partition size above which AFPD fails? If not, does anyone have any suggestions? I really need to get this working again, because it's for my place of work. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -Eric Rasmussen (ear@usfirst.org) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Rasmussen FIRST : For Inspiration and Recognition of Science and Technology ear@usfirst.org, 800-871-8326, 603-666-0043 (fax), http://www.usfirst.org From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Aug 2 03:54:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id DAA13493; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 03:54:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id DAA13489; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 03:54:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA11745 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 03:54:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA11742 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 03:54:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (colossus.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.202]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id DAA11734; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 03:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [146.141.26.200] (macenroe1.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.200]) by colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA02304; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 09:55:43 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 21:56:23 +0200 To: Charles Clark From: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (John Ostrowick) Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: quick netatalk question Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >> From: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (John Ostrowick) > >> ok, some very good points. I want it primarily to manipulate my ftp site >> via appletalk. > >I think maybe you'd be better off making a second username with the same >uid as ftp, and logging in as that. Something of that nature. ftp user doesn't have write access to my ftp site :-) i also wanted it to paste an icon on the root level of the server disk :-) (got this to work just fine, as well as on individual user accounts!) > >> for some weird reason it seems as if netatalk does not allow me to copy >> files off my appleshared mklinux server. but i only see this behaviour when >> i try copy files from a NFS-mounted folder (elsewhere on the mklinux >> filesystem it works fine). it says file not found. > >I don't know personally; I haven't run netatalk on my own machines in a >while and never on linux. Did you send that one to netatalk-admins@umich.edu? nope. > >> dutch settlers in the 1700s, called it 'zuid afrika'. it's to avoid >> confusion with south america (also on car plates which show which country >> you're from) :-) > >I figured it was something dutch. Is "zuid" basically "south", or >something else? it is south (cf french sud, german sud, etc) _________________________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand 1 Jan Smuts Ave, Johannesburg, South Africa. Senate House 1012 Phone: +27 11 716-3783 Fax: +27 11 339-3513 jon@cs.wits.ac.za jon@is.co.za My web page: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/more/jon/aboutme.html My ftp site: ftp://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za My listserv: subscr@cs.wits.ac.za (body of 'help') From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Aug 2 05:29:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id FAA27956; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 05:29:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id FAA27952; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 05:29:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA05981 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 05:29:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA05979 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 05:29:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rsunx.crn.cogs.susx.ac.uk (root@rsunx-gw.susx.ac.uk [139.184.48.12]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id FAA05975 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 05:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [139.184.53.2] by rsunx.crn.cogs.susx.ac.uk with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0wuaTU-000PCgC; Sat, 2 Aug 97 10:27 BST Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 10:31:01 +0100 From: James Goodlet Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems with reported file sizes - please help To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 1 Aug 1997 23:31:41 -0400 ear@usfirst.org (Eric Rasmussen) wrote: > Is there some maximum partition size above which AFPD fails? If not, > does > anyone have any suggestions? I really need to get this working again, > because it's for my place of work. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. i don't know about afpd, but there is certainly a maximum for afp. for systems prior to 7.5.1 (using appleshare client 3.5 or later), the maximum afp volume size is 2Gb. anything larger will cause problems such as you are seeing. with system 7.5.1 and later, maximum afp volume size is 4Gb. apple's til has much info on this: recommendation is to use a system *later* than 7.5.1 and appleshare client *later* than 3.5. james From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Aug 2 11:11:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA02189; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 11:11:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA02185; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 11:11:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sabotage.rs.itd.umich.edu by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA14254; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 11:11:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by ghidrah.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) id DAA13197; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 03:54:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA11738; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 03:54:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA11735 for netatalk-members@umich.edu; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 03:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (colossus.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.202]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id DAA11728; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 03:54:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [146.141.26.200] (macenroe1.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.200]) by colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA02301; Sat, 2 Aug 1997 09:55:38 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 21:56:18 +0200 To: netatalk@umich.edu From: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (John Ostrowick) Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: quick netatalk question Cc: Charles Clark Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu me said: > >> for some weird reason it seems as if netatalk does not allow me to copy >> files off my appleshared mklinux server. but i only see this behaviour when >> i try copy files from a NFS-mounted folder (elsewhere on the mklinux >> filesystem it works fine). it says file not found. > Charles Clark said: >I don't know personally; I haven't run netatalk on my own machines in a >while and never on linux. Did you send that one to netatalk-admins@umich.edu? any ideas? :-) (could also be cos i'm running the latest appleshare client from MacOS 8) _________________________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand 1 Jan Smuts Ave, Johannesburg, South Africa. Senate House 1012 Phone: +27 11 716-3783 Fax: +27 11 339-3513 jon@cs.wits.ac.za jon@is.co.za My web page: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/more/jon/aboutme.html My ftp site: ftp://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za My listserv: subscr@cs.wits.ac.za (body of 'help') From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 4 05:15:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id FAA04793; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 05:15:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id FAA04789; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 05:15:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA19252 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 05:15:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA19250 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 05:15:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chris-pc.ons.net ([194.7.74.19]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id FAA19241 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 05:15:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chris-pc (christ@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chris-pc.ons.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA03395 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 11:19:17 +0200 Message-ID: <33E59E94.69D14C13@netit.be> Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 11:19:16 +0200 From: chris thoen Organization: Net it be X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.0 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] lost filetypes when copied under UNIX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, I'm running a Linux fileserver with netatalk , and everything is running smoothly. One big problem though : when I copy my files from a MAC to the shared disk on the Linux-system, the MACS recognize the right file type. When I copy files under Linux by cpio from one disk to another , all the files are recognized on the MACS as UNIX text files (f.i. photoshop files). Is therer not some rebuild function (like HELIOS has) to gather the right info about the files? The AppleVolumes.system file seems to work only on files with a file-extension. Most files on a MAC don't have this. Has anybody some answer on this one please? Thanks, Chris -- Chris THOEN Systeembeheerder Net it be Posthoflei 3 2600 BERCHEM tel : 03/286.04.34 fax : 03/286.04.70 email : christ@netit.be url : www.netit.be From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 4 07:33:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id HAA07493; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 07:33:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA07489; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 07:33:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA29080 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 07:33:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA29078 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 07:33:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de (poc@dx4.pingnet.de [194.148.12.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA29073 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 07:33:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.7.3) id NAA31889; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:33:22 +0200 Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:33:21 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] lost filetypes when copied under UNIX In-Reply-To: <33E59E94.69D14C13@netit.be> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, > Is therer not some rebuild function (like HELIOS has) to gather the > right info about the files? The AppleVolumes.system file seems to work > only on files with a file-extension. Most files on a MAC don't have > this. You'll have to copy the .AppleDouble Directory, too. Than you get the Information. :wq! PoC P.S.: It's Mac, not MAC. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 4 09:07:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA11824; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 09:07:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA11820; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 09:07:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA19606 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 09:07:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA19603 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 09:07:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from eebau.tibus.net (eebau.tibus.net [194.74.214.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id JAA19583 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 09:07:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from eebau.tibus.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eebau.tibus.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA17586 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 14:08:40 GMT Message-Id: <199708041408.OAA17586@eebau.tibus.net> From: Paul Gregg To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] stopping atalk kills ethernet Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 14:08:40 +0000 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm posting this, hoping it gets to the list (as my subscription effort hasn't been passed by the moderator yet). I'll check the list archive web site for responses but I'd appreciate being Cc: on any :) Anyway, I've been running Netatalk on my SS20/Solaris 2.5 machine for a couple of weeks now and have run into a *big* problem. We have one Mac 7600 (7.5.3) using the Netatalk to access a group server (for data backup purposes). Anyway, occasionally the Mac will crash taking both afpd processes with it - I don't know whyit kills the parent, but it does. Logs show the following: Aug 1 11:07:50 sparcy afpd[7878]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Connection timed out However this doesn't appear to be related (synchronised with the crashes) to the problem, but: When I do /etc/init.d/atalk stop the following occurs: Aug 4 10:34:33 sparcy atalkd[202]: as_down remove le0 65280.206 failed: No such file or directory And the machine becomes unresponsive to all IP traffic - to all its (about 100) IP interfaces. I then have to manually reboot the sparc at console. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, Paul Gregg -- The Internet Business Ltd, Holywood House, Innis Court, Holywood, BT18 9HF pgregg@tibus.net http://www.tibus.net/ Phone: +44 (0)1232-424190 Fax: +44 (0)1232-424709 Eight out of every five people are math illiterates. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 4 13:30:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA25154; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:30:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA25145; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA01038 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA01034 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:30:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from taos.cs.unm.edu (taos.cs.unm.edu [198.59.151.172]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA01022 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (colinj@localhost) by taos.cs.unm.edu (8.8.4/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA21256 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 11:30:11 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: taos.cs.unm.edu: colinj owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 11:30:11 -0600 (MDT) From: Colin Eric Johnson To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re:[netatalk-admins] Personal LaserWriter II at Linux Box In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 1 Aug 1997, Sak Wathanasin wrote: > In reply to David Kelly's message of the 01/08/97 at 08:42 -0500, > > > > NO! The DB25 connector is SCSI, it is NOT serial. It will have a disk icon > > above it. > > That's true: the LW IIf and IIg (but not the LW IINT ) are listed as having > SCSI ports. I was thinking of the LW and LW+ which did have a 25-pin serial > port. Just to add to the information. On the back of the IIntx in the room behind me, reading from left to right, it has the following connectors ADB - "for future expansion" Centronics SCSI DIP switches DB25 serial DIN-8 serial/localtalk It is true that on the back of some Macs the the SCSI is a DB25 port. Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ Parker always felt things in his bones because, he said, it saved space. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 4 13:41:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA25755; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:41:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA25751; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:41:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA27889 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:41:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA27880 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from taos.cs.unm.edu (colinj@taos.cs.unm.edu [198.59.151.172]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA27866 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:41:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (colinj@localhost) by taos.cs.unm.edu (8.8.4/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA21290; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 11:40:17 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: taos.cs.unm.edu: colinj owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 11:40:16 -0600 (MDT) From: Colin Eric Johnson To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu cc: Patrik Schindler , chris thoen Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] lost filetypes when copied under UNIX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Patrik Schindler wrote: > Hi, > > > Is therer not some rebuild function (like HELIOS has) to gather the > > right info about the files? The AppleVolumes.system file seems to work > > only on files with a file-extension. Most files on a MAC don't have > > this. > > You'll have to copy the .AppleDouble Directory, too. Than you get the > Information. The best bet would probably be to use some form of tar such that you can retain ownership, permissions and get the *entire* directory including the .AppleDouble directory. Something like: tar cf - . | (cd ; tar xBf -) do this from the directory that you want to move and then have cd move to the directory that you want the stuff moved to. taken from p.340 of _Unix Power Tools_ from O'Reilly. > P.S.: It's Mac, not MAC. Mac is short for Macintosh MAC could be Machine Access(?) Code, otherwise known as the ethernet address. Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ Parker always felt things in his bones because, he said, it saved space. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 4 13:41:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA25801; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:41:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA25790; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:41:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA04895 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:41:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA04886 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:41:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id NAA04856 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:41:29 -0400 (EDT) From: cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01686; Mon, 4 Aug 97 18:41:18 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 18:41:15 +0100 Received: from luigi (luigi.tees) by scorch; Mon, 4 Aug 97 18:42:50 BST Date: Mon, 4 Aug 97 18:44:30 BST Message-Id: <557.9708041744@luigi> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] desktop labels Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I've labeled one of my top level unix directories, (it's now "cool" blue.) Where does netatalk store the information that denotes this? I'm hoping that the info is in a discrete file that I can copy it to many other accounts... later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 4 13:49:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA26723; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:49:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA26717; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:49:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA07753 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:49:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA07743 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:49:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id NAA07721 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 13:49:24 -0400 (EDT) From: cmt20@luigi.tees.ac.uk Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01703; Mon, 4 Aug 97 18:49:20 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 18:49:17 +0100 Received: from luigi (luigi.tees) by scorch; Mon, 4 Aug 97 18:50:51 BST Date: Mon, 4 Aug 97 18:52:31 BST Message-Id: <570.9708041752@luigi> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] lost filetypes when copied under UNIX Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, > > tar cf - . | (cd ; tar xBf -) If you wish to preserve the permissions use the p flag: tar cf - . | (cd ; tar xpBf -) later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 4 15:33:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA01162; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 15:33:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA01158; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 15:33:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA11284 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 15:33:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA11277 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 15:33:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from waldorf.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.informatik.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA11260 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 15:33:40 -0400 (EDT) From: hammel@lumpi.cs.uni-dortmund.de Received: from keule.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (keule.informatik.uni-dortmund.de [192.35.67.151]) by waldorf.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP id UAA24774 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 20:13:21 +0200 (MES) Received: from lyra.LS11 by keule.informatik.uni-dortmund.de id UAA09539; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 20:13:15 +0200 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 18:07:54 GMT Message-ID: <19970804.18075402@lyra.LS11> Subject: [netatalk-admins] papd and binary postscript To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/4.0; WinNT/Win95) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm new to this list, so please excuse me if this has been discussed=20= before. At least I didn't find anything related on the net. I'm running atalk-1.4.2b on my linux-box, kernel 2.0.29 and it is=20 doing well. Great stuff, very reliable! But one problem remains, which exclusively occurs if=20 printing=20 postscript-code including binary-encoded images. Then papd does some=20= extremely time-consuming things. To transfer a 10MB job into the printers=20 spooling directory takes about 20 minutes while papd consumes 90% of the CPU. (Currently, my=20 linux-box is an ancient 486/66.) The same file (but of course inflated to 20 MB) with ascii-encoded=20 images takes=20 about 30 seconds or so.=20 Any help appreciated, Thanks, Ulrich ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ulrich Hammel Informatik Centrum Dortmund (ICD) Universit=E4t Dortmund Joseph-von-Fraunhofer-Str. 20 FB Informatik/XI 44227 Dortmund 44221 Dortmund Zimmer 2.67 Tel: 0231-9700-366 Fax: 0231-9700-959 E-Mail: hammel@LS11.informatik.uni-dortmund.de ~~~~~~~~~~~~~http://ls11-www.informatik.uni-dortmund.de/people/hammel From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 4 16:44:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id QAA04395; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 16:44:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA04391; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 16:44:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA14272 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 16:44:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA14267 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 16:44:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx2.zenith.com (mx2.zenith.com [207.94.25.243]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA14114 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 1997 16:44:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zenithe.com (unverified [136.166.62.64]) by mx2.zenith.com (Integralis SMTPRS 2.02) with SMTP id ; Mon, 04 Aug 1997 15:47:37 -0500 Received: from [136.166.70.20] by zenithe.com (4.1/ZEC-3.04) id AA23444; Mon, 4 Aug 97 15:52:44 CDT Message-Id: <9708042052.AA23444@zenithe.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and large shared volumes? Date: Mon, 4 Aug 97 15:46:02 -0500 X-Sender: dmgbbur@tvgurus.zenithe.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Ben Burch To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I made the following modification in the source file unix.c, its effect is to report any size that would overflow an signed long as a smaller size which won't. From my limited testing, there appear to be no problems with this kludge... /* * Get the free space on a partition. */ ustatfs_getvolspace( vol, bfree, btotal ) struct vol *vol; u_long *bfree, *btotal; { #ifdef ultrix struct fs_data sfs; #else ultrix struct statfs sfs; #endif ultrix if ( statfs( vol->v_path, &sfs ) < 0 ) { return( AFPERR_PARAM ); } #ifdef ultrix *bfree = sfs.fd_req.bfreen * 1024; #else /* *bfree = sfs.f_bavail * sfs.f_frsize; */ { long long temp; temp = sfs.f_bavail * sfs.f_frsize; if( temp < 2147483647 ) { *bfree = (unsigned long) temp; } else { *bfree = 2147483647 ; } } #endif ultrix #ifdef ultrix *btotal = ( sfs.fd_req.btot - ( sfs.fd_req.bfree - sfs.fd_req.bfreen )) * 1024; #else ultrix /* *btotal = ( sfs.f_blocks - ( sfs.f_bfree - sfs.f_bavail )) * sfs.f_frsize; */ { long long temp; temp = ( sfs.f_blocks - ( sfs.f_bfree - sfs.f_bavail )) * sfs.f_frsize; if( temp < 2147483647 ) { *btotal = (unsigned long) temp; } else { *btotal = 2147483647 ; } } #endif ultrix return( AFP_OK ); } -- "Love is the law, love under will." Ben Burch ben.burch@zenith.com From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 5 03:22:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id DAA27086; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 03:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id DAA27082; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 03:22:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA00949 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 03:22:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA00947 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 03:22:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zifi.genetics.utah.edu (zifi.genetics.utah.edu [155.100.229.31]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id DAA00943 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 03:22:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from zinc@localhost) by zifi.genetics.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.6.9) id BAA05561; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 01:22:04 -0600 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 01:22:04 -0600 Message-Id: <199708050722.BAA05561@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> From: patrick finerty To: netatalk mailing list Subject: [netatalk-admins] AppleShare over TCP/IP?? X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid X-Face: &dh1aHu*v\s24A9~2qU[ln~;(Cz#X]d2r-@X>#j9U@vx!v8%IYU''n-H1D)}U(-0Te~ LD|Cyg6Gh-aFN{B*VSKhs}en{nXo3xkveE#BxR9 Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id EAA11692; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 04:41:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA11688; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 04:41:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA07000 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 04:41:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA06998 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 04:41:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (root@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA06994 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 04:41:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA22034 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:41:23 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:41:23 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re:[netatalk-admins] Personal LaserWriter II at Linux Box In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Colin Eric Johnson wrote: > It is true that on the back of some Macs the the SCSI is a DB25 port. Is this not the case with _all_ Macs? (except PowerBooks) -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 5 04:45:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id EAA11939; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 04:45:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA11931; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 04:45:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA21026 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 04:45:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA21024 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 04:45:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA21017 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 04:45:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA22047; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:45:31 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:45:30 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Eric Rasmussen cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems with reported file sizes - please help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu System < 7.5 will produce strange results with AFPD volumes >2GB. System 7.5 to 7.5.3 are all OK up to 4GB. System 7.5.4 and newer can work with network volumes up to 4TB IIRR. On Fri, 1 Aug 1997, Eric Rasmussen wrote: > For several months now, I have had netatalk 1.3.3 running happily on a > Linux 2.0.30 system. The client Macs are running System 7.1, and 7.5.1. > > I recently upgraded the AFPD shared directory tree from a 100 Mb hard drive > to a 3.7 Gb partition on an even larger drive. Although the unix system > seems to have no trouble dealing with the large partition, the Macs are > getting some crazy results. For instance, if I open a folder that resides > on the Unix server, I get a mixture of positive and negative file sizes. > Simple actions such as dragging a small file (<100Kb) from the desktop to > the network folder now fail, telling me that it needs 900+ Mb additional > space, when in reality there is over 3 Gb free. > > Let me reiterate that, from within a Unix shell account, it is clear that > the Unix system has no trouble identifying the proper file sizes and amount > of free space, nor has it had any problems moving data to/from the new > partition. > > Is there some maximum partition size above which AFPD fails? If not, does > anyone have any suggestions? I really need to get this working again, > because it's for my place of work. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > -Eric Rasmussen (ear@usfirst.org) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Eric Rasmussen > FIRST : For Inspiration and Recognition of Science and Technology > ear@usfirst.org, 800-871-8326, 603-666-0043 (fax), http://www.usfirst.org > > -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 5 06:02:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id GAA13562; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 06:02:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA13553; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 06:02:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA11879 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 06:02:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA11876 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 06:02:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ecr.mu.oz.au (gondwana.ecr.mu.OZ.AU [128.250.70.62]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA11864 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 06:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from stimpy.ecr.mu.oz.au (stimpy.ecr.mu.oz.au [128.250.66.7]) by ecr.mu.oz.au (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA27241 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 20:02:38 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (apcr@localhost) by stimpy.ecr.mu.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA10655 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 20:02:40 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: stimpy.ecr.mu.oz.au: apcr owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 20:02:40 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew Croke To: netatalk admins Subject: [netatalk-admins] Lost spooled print files. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Good morning, I wondered whether somebody might be able to steer me in the right direction to get my laser printer working from my Mac via my Linux (2.0.0) machine? Apologies if this is a common question. I have exported the printer via papd.conf with something like: HP LaserJet:\ :pr=lp:\ :op=apcr: I can see the printer from chooser OK but when I print to it I get a 0 byte single entry in my spool directory and nothing prints. The Mac eventually tells me that there is a problem. I have also tried telling it the correct spool directory to dump the file into to no avail. Could it be something like number of bits coming from the Mac to the Linux OS? The printers I have tried are a HP LJ6MP on /dev/lp1 and a Laserwriter IINT on /dev/cua1 and they appear to have done the same thing. I have "a2ps" in between doing ascii to postscript filtering and either dumping a file by "cat file_name >> /dev/lp1" or doing a straight lpr from the Linux box works OK. Is there something I should also do to set up the printer? I hope this makes sense to you and that you have an idea of where I have messed up. Cheers, Andrew Croke -------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Croke P.O. Box 451 University of Melbourne Nth Melbourne 3051 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 5 07:01:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id HAA14969; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 07:01:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA14964; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 07:01:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA17041 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 07:01:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA17038 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 07:01:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA17034 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 07:01:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from air.steve.net (slip166-72-201-122.vt.us.ibm.net [166.72.201.122]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA37858; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 11:01:15 GMT Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 07:03:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven N. Hirsch" X-Sender: hirsch@air.steve.net To: Andrew Croke cc: netatalk admins Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Lost spooled print files. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Andrew Croke wrote: > > > > > Good morning, > > I wondered whether somebody might be able to steer me in the right > direction to get my laser printer working from my Mac via my Linux (2.0.0) > machine? Apologies if this is a common question. > > I have exported the printer via papd.conf with something like: > > HP LaserJet:\ > :pr=lp:\ > :op=apcr: > > I can see the printer from chooser OK but when I print to it I get a 0 > byte single entry in my spool directory and nothing prints. The Mac > eventually tells me that there is a problem. > My sympathies. I spent all day last Saturday working on this exact issue. Turns out that a couple of things were necessary: - Upgrade to LaserWriter 8. This implies that you must also upgrade to System 7.1 or newer, though this fact is not mentioned in the FAQs. - Do not turn off background printing. For some reason, my system absolutely refuses to print over netatalk unless background printing is switched on. Give these two ideas a try. Good luck! Steve From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 5 09:40:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA18614; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:40:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA18604; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:40:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA27619 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:40:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA27613 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:40:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from usfirst.org (root@usfirst.org [199.125.100.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA27602 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [199.125.100.3] (newton.usfirst.org [199.125.100.3]) by usfirst.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA01071; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:29:49 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:29:49 -0400 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9708042052.AA23444@zenithe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Ben Burch , From: Eric Rasmussen Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and large shared volumes? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm not so sure I want to start playing games with reported file sizes. Instead, I split the 3.7 GB partition into 2.0 and 1.7 GB partitions, and now it's working. Thanks for the suggestion, though. -Eric Rasmussen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Rasmussen FIRST : For Inspiration and Recognition of Science and Technology ear@usfirst.org, 800-871-8326, 603-666-0043 (fax), http://www.usfirst.org From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 5 09:43:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA18719; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:43:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA18711; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:43:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA13389 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:43:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA13381 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:43:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from usfirst.org (usfirst.org [199.125.100.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA13376 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:43:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [199.125.100.3] (newton.usfirst.org [199.125.100.3]) by usfirst.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA01087; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:32:44 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:32:44 -0400 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: James Goodlet , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Eric Rasmussen Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems with reported file sizes - please help Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 10:31 AM +0100 8/2/97, James Goodlet wrote: >i don't know about afpd, but there is certainly a maximum for afp. for >systems prior to 7.5.1 (using appleshare client 3.5 or later), the >maximum afp volume size is 2Gb. anything larger will cause problems >such as you are seeing. with system 7.5.1 and later, maximum afp volume >size is 4Gb. apple's til has much info on this: recommendation is to >use a system *later* than 7.5.1 and appleshare client *later* than 3.5. I split the 3.7 GB partition into 2.0 and 1.7 GB partitions, and now it's working. Thanks, -Eric Rasmussen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Rasmussen FIRST : For Inspiration and Recognition of Science and Technology ear@usfirst.org, 800-871-8326, 603-666-0043 (fax), http://www.usfirst.org From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 5 09:44:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA18774; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:44:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA18769; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:44:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA28918 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:44:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA28915 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:44:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from usfirst.org (root@usfirst.org [199.125.100.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA28903 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:44:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [199.125.100.3] (newton.usfirst.org [199.125.100.3]) by usfirst.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA01092; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:33:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 08:33:54 -0400 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Alistair Riddell From: Eric Rasmussen Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems with reported file sizes - please help Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 9:45 AM +0100 8/5/97, Alistair Riddell wrote: >System < 7.5 will produce strange results with AFPD volumes >2GB. >System 7.5 to 7.5.3 are all OK up to 4GB. >System 7.5.4 and newer can work with network volumes up to 4TB IIRR. I split the 3.7 GB partition into 2.0 and 1.7 GB partitions, and now it's working. Thanks, -Eric Rasmussen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Rasmussen FIRST : For Inspiration and Recognition of Science and Technology ear@usfirst.org, 800-871-8326, 603-666-0043 (fax), http://www.usfirst.org From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 5 12:44:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA26141; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 12:44:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA26136; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 12:44:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA07651 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 12:44:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA07646 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 12:44:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crashprone.allegheny.edu (root@crashprone.auhs.edu [192.54.238.27]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA07639 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 12:44:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by crashprone.allegheny.edu with smtp id m0wvmiu-0004HtC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Tue, 5 Aug 1997 12:44:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 12:44:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Brennan To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Zones w/o routing? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Ok ... we have a slush of different Macs (& printers) in different departments -- all on the same physical segment of our network. I would like to toss in some zones so that it's not as ugly, but all of the systems I have in that segment have only one interface. I am trying to rig the dummy0 (Linux) interface so that netatalk's routing will be happy and I'll get the zones I want ... but it may not work. Is there any way to pull this one off?? I could see if one of the routers could be configured to do this ... but our net- admins aren't terribly responsive -- and even less where AppleTalk and Macs are concerned. andrew. (brennan@auhs.edu) "Have you changed your domain name today?" From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 5 13:07:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA27066; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 13:07:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA27062; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 13:07:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA05547 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 13:07:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA05526 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 13:07:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA05485 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 13:07:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA23564; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 18:07:15 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 18:07:15 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Andrew Brennan cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Zones w/o routing? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm afraid it looks like you'll have to persuade your network admins to co-operate. If you want to be able to choose which zone each device on your appears in then you must configure the seed router to create more than one zone on the interface which is connected to your network segment. You can have more than one seed router on the network but they must all agree about the zone list (among other things). So if there is already a router connected to your network which has been put there by network administrators to connect you to anotehr network then the configuration of that router will have to be changed. If you configure a router to create zones on an interface which is not physically connected to your network (e.g. loopback or dummy interface) then those zones will appear in the chooser but you will not be able to place any devices in them. You can use this to create zones called "Forbidden Zone" or "Twilight Zone" which no devices will ever appear in... On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Andrew Brennan wrote: > Ok ... we have a slush of different Macs (& printers) in different > departments -- all on the same physical segment of our network. I > would like to toss in some zones so that it's not as ugly, but all > of the systems I have in that segment have only one interface. > > I am trying to rig the dummy0 (Linux) interface so that netatalk's > routing will be happy and I'll get the zones I want ... but it may > not work. Is there any way to pull this one off?? I could see if > one of the routers could be configured to do this ... but our net- > admins aren't terribly responsive -- and even less where AppleTalk > and Macs are concerned. -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 5 15:39:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA02079; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA02074; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:39:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA09337 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:39:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA09331 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA09326 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:39:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id MAA30484; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 12:39:24 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 12:39:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Bug? in 4.4BSD kernel code Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu For another network project, I was staring at at_control.c in NetBSD, and noticed what looks like a bug. I checked out both the FreeBSD and the netatalk/sys/netatalk a_control.c files, and the questionable code is there too. Basically, when we go to set up a new AppleTalk address, we initialize the at_ifaddr and link it into the address lists. Then, ifdef BSD4_4, we set up the pointers in the ifaddr structure. My question is why we set the ifaddr's ifa_dstaddr to point to the at_ifaddr's NORMAL address, when the at_ifaddr has an AppleTalk destination address structure? The code in question is line 185 of netatalk/sys/netatalk/at_control.c. I think the (struct sockaddr *)&aa->aa_addr should be &aa->aa_dstaddr. Or am I missing something? Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 5 23:09:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id XAA13045; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 23:09:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id XAA13040; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 23:09:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA04034 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 23:09:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA04032 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 23:09:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ecr.mu.oz.au (gondwana.ecr.mu.OZ.AU [128.250.70.62]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA04015 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 23:09:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kakadu5.ecr.mu.oz.au (kakadu5.ecr.mu.oz.au [128.250.65.5]) by ecr.mu.oz.au (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA01304; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 13:09:06 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (apcr@localhost) by kakadu5.ecr.mu.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA24513; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 13:09:04 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: kakadu5.ecr.mu.oz.au: apcr owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 13:09:03 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew Croke To: "Steven N. Hirsch" cc: netatalk admins Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Lost spooled print files. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I think I have narrowed it down to a2ps (postscript filtering) looks purely for text or PS headers and routes to the right filter. the HP LaserJet 5MP and 6MP uses its own PJL (Printer Job Language) header just prior to the standard Adobe header. I am using the HP 4 PPD file and things are working just fine. I think it could possibly be gotten around by editing the /etc/magic file and adding the Hewlett Packard headers for PJL so that the job gets accepted by a2ps but this may be a good one for the next rev. of a2ps. Thanks for your help Steven. Cheers, -------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Croke P.O. Box 451 University of Melbourne Nth Melbourne 3051 On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Steven N. Hirsch wrote: > > > On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Andrew Croke wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Good morning, > > > > I wondered whether somebody might be able to steer me in the right > > direction to get my laser printer working from my Mac via my Linux (2.0.0) > > machine? Apologies if this is a common question. > > > > I have exported the printer via papd.conf with something like: > > > > HP LaserJet:\ > > :pr=lp:\ > > :op=apcr: > > > > I can see the printer from chooser OK but when I print to it I get a 0 > > byte single entry in my spool directory and nothing prints. The Mac > > eventually tells me that there is a problem. > > > > My sympathies. I spent all day last Saturday working on this exact issue. > Turns out that a couple of things were necessary: > > - Upgrade to LaserWriter 8. This implies that you must also upgrade to > System 7.1 or newer, though this fact is not mentioned in the FAQs. > > - Do not turn off background printing. For some reason, my system > absolutely refuses to print over netatalk unless background printing is > switched on. > > Give these two ideas a try. Good luck! > > Steve > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 5 23:35:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id XAA13656; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 23:35:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id XAA13652; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 23:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA09083 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 23:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA09081 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 23:34:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net. (root@fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA09076 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 23:34:56 -0400 (EDT) From: dkelly@hiwaay.net Received: from nexgen.hiwaay.net (max2-146.HiWAAY.net [208.147.145.146]) by fly.HiWAAY.net. (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA10616 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 22:34:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from nexgen (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nexgen.hiwaay.net (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA17221 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 1997 18:36:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199708052336.SAA17221@nexgen.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Personal LaserWriter II at Linux Box In-reply-to: Message from Alistair Riddell of "Tue, 05 Aug 1997 09:41:23 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 18:36:21 -0500 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Alistair Riddell writes: > > On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Colin Eric Johnson wrote: > > It is true that on the back of some Macs the the SCSI is a DB25 port. > > Is this not the case with _all_ Macs? (except PowerBooks) My PowerComputing PowerCenter Pro 210 came with (1) DB25 for the MB SCSI, and (1) "SCSI-II" on its Adaptec 2930 PCI SCSI. (Yes, a 2930, whatever that is.) Would hazzard to guess the time is near when the DB25 SCSI connector will disappear from new systems. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 6 06:51:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id GAA11344; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 06:51:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA11326; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 06:51:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA22694 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 06:51:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA22691 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 06:51:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id GAA22676 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 06:51:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09057; Wed, 6 Aug 97 11:51:18 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 11:51:15 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from sue (sue.tees) by scorch; Wed, 6 Aug 97 11:52:51 BST Date: Wed, 6 Aug 97 11:52:28 BST Message-Id: <28269.9708061052@sue> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] MacGate - Macintosh IP Gateway for Linux. Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi Folks, Just found this: >MacGate is a IP <-> LocalTalk gateway for Linux. The idea for this was >based off of Bradford Johnson's ipddpd IP <-> LocalTalk gateway. >... >MacGate is ment to be used with the COPS LocalTalk PC card driver, written by >me. Or with the LTPC LocalTalk PC card driver, written by Bradford Johnson. Since there has been a lot of discussion about routing, etc of late I though you might find it usefull. http://www.coredcs.com/%7Eonyx/MacGate.html later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 6 08:10:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id IAA13444; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 08:10:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA13437; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 08:10:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA11137 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 08:10:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA11122 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 08:10:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA11110 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 08:10:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA09448; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 05:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd009444; Wed Aug 6 12:06:26 1997 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 05:04:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Bill Studenmund cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Bug? in 4.4BSD kernel code In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu iAs the porter of the netatalk code to freebsd I'll take a look later today.. I also have some bug-fixes I need to add so I'll be in the code anyhow. julian On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Bill Studenmund wrote: > For another network project, I was staring at at_control.c in NetBSD, and > noticed what looks like a bug. I checked out both the FreeBSD and the > netatalk/sys/netatalk a_control.c files, and the questionable code is > there too. > > Basically, when we go to set up a new AppleTalk address, we initialize the > at_ifaddr and link it into the address lists. Then, ifdef BSD4_4, we set > up the pointers in the ifaddr structure. > > My question is why we set the ifaddr's ifa_dstaddr to point to the > at_ifaddr's NORMAL address, when the at_ifaddr has an AppleTalk > destination address structure? > > The code in question is line 185 of netatalk/sys/netatalk/at_control.c. I > think the (struct sockaddr *)&aa->aa_addr should be &aa->aa_dstaddr. > > Or am I missing something? > > Take care, > > Bill > > From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 6 12:27:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA21571; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 12:27:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA21565; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 12:27:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA14457 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 12:27:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA14455 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 12:27:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx2.zenith.com (mx2.zenith.com [207.94.25.243]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA14448 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 12:27:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zenithe.com (unverified [136.166.62.64]) by mx2.zenith.com (Integralis SMTPRS 2.02) with SMTP id ; Wed, 06 Aug 1997 11:30:19 -0500 Received: from [136.166.70.20] by zenithe.com (4.1/ZEC-3.04) id AA11461; Wed, 6 Aug 97 11:35:20 CDT Message-Id: <9708061635.AA11461@zenithe.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and large shared volumes? Date: Wed, 6 Aug 97 11:28:38 -0500 X-Sender: dmgbbur@tvgurus.zenithe.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Ben Burch To: "Eric Rasmussen" , "Ben Burch" , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >I'm not so sure I want to start playing games with reported file sizes. >Instead, I split the 3.7 GB partition into 2.0 and 1.7 GB partitions, and now >it's working. Not an option for us; This is a 9 GB filespace, and cannot be partitioned... -- "Love is the law, love under will." Ben Burch ben.burch@zenith.com From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 6 13:33:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA24168; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 13:33:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA24164; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 13:33:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA29532 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 13:33:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA29528 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 13:33:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from what.snew.com (oscar.yerkes.com [206.136.64.13]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA29514 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 13:33:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuck@localhost) by what.snew.com (8.8.5/8.8.0) id NAA05291; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 13:33:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708061733.NAA05291@what.snew.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Personal LaserWriter II at Linux Box To: dkelly@hiwaay.net Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 13:33:31 -0400 (EDT) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <199708052336.SAA17221@nexgen.hiwaay.net> from "dkelly@hiwaay.net" at Aug 5, 97 06:36:21 pm From: chuck+na@Yerkes.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu It is claimed, but unverified, that dkelly@hiwaay.net wrote: > Alistair Riddell writes: > > On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Colin Eric Johnson wrote: > > > It is true that on the back of some Macs the the SCSI is a DB25 port. > > > > Is this not the case with _all_ Macs? (except PowerBooks) > > My PowerComputing PowerCenter Pro 210 came with (1) DB25 for the MB SCSI, > and (1) "SCSI-II" on its Adaptec 2930 PCI SCSI. (Yes, a 2930, whatever that > is.) Well, actually, your Adaptec card came with a standard connector. PComputing just used it. > Would hazard to guess the time is near when the DB25 SCSI connector will > disappear from new systems. It would be even better if fast SCSI2 or SCSI3 came as the default SCSI. At *least* SCSI2 chains can have slower (5MBS) disks on them mixed with fast disks. But Apple's SCSI implementations started out marginally standard, so with MS-Apple, I have less hope. chuck From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 6 15:16:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA28755; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 15:16:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA28751; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 15:16:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA06273 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 15:16:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA06264 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 15:16:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cre8tivegroup.com (abt6.bitwise.net [204.97.222.226]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id PAA06258 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 15:16:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.255.227.86] by mail.cre8tivegroup.com (SMTPD32-3.04) id AE22A3EA049A; Wed, 06 Aug 1997 15:18:58 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 15:08:09 -0400 (EDT) Organization: The Creative Group From: Patrick Gardella To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] addmulti: Invalid argument Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am attempting to run netatalk 1.4b2 on my FreeBSD 2.2.1 box. I have added "option NETATALK" to my kernel conf and recompiled. I have installed netatalk in /usr/local/atalk It compiled fine, but now I get an error when I try to start atalkd: AppleTalk not up! Child exited with 1. Aug 6 15:03:26 gateway atalkd[348]: addmulti: Invalid argument We have an AppleTalk network of 3 Macs running EtherTalk (OS 8, OS 7.5.3 and OS 7.5.5). The AppleTalk is running, for sure. The ethernet card is lnc1. I've tried without an atalkd.conf and with. My atalkd.conf is: lnc1 -phase 2 Any ideas how to fix this? Patrick ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Patrick Gardella Date: 06-Aug-97 Time: 15:08:09 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 7 00:30:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id AAA17563; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 00:30:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id AAA17523; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 00:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA26478; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 00:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA26476 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 00:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id AAA26472 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 00:30:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA09099; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 21:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd009097; Thu Aug 7 04:27:05 1997 Message-ID: <33E94E16.ABD322C@whistle.com> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 21:24:54 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Studenmund , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Bug? in 4.4BSD kernel code References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Julian Elischer wrote: > > As the porter of the netatalk code to freebsd > I'll take a look later today.. > I also have some bug-fixes I need to add > so I'll be in the code anyhow. > > julian > Ok I've had a look.. the dstaddr (also known as the broadaddr) contains the address of the other end of the point-to-point link As we are not a point to point link, this is nominally the broadcast address instead. however the broadcast address is known on atalk so it's not needed as such. in any case I think that I tried leaving this as the real broadcast value and it failed to work during route intialisation. nothing should be using it that I know of during normal operation however. If we star supporting P2P links for atalk then of course we should do it better.. I'll look at it more later however. > On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Bill Studenmund wrote: > > > For another network project, I was staring at at_control.c in NetBSD, and > > noticed what looks like a bug. I checked out both the FreeBSD and the > > netatalk/sys/netatalk a_control.c files, and the questionable code is > > there too. > > > > Basically, when we go to set up a new AppleTalk address, we initialize the > > at_ifaddr and link it into the address lists. Then, ifdef BSD4_4, we set > > up the pointers in the ifaddr structure. > > > > My question is why we set the ifaddr's ifa_dstaddr to point to the > > at_ifaddr's NORMAL address, when the at_ifaddr has an AppleTalk > > destination address structure? > > > > The code in question is line 185 of netatalk/sys/netatalk/at_control.c. I > > think the (struct sockaddr *)&aa->aa_addr should be &aa->aa_dstaddr. > > > > Or am I missing something? > > > > Take care, > > > > Bill > > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 7 11:06:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA11678; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 11:06:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA11655; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 11:06:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA08899; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 11:06:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA08873 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 11:06:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cre8tivegroup.com (abt6.bitwise.net [204.97.222.226]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id LAA08714; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 11:05:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.255.227.124] by mail.cre8tivegroup.com (SMTPD32-3.04) id A4B916D40412; Thu, 07 Aug 1997 11:07:37 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 10:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Organization: The Creative Group From: Patrick Gardella To: netatalk@umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] addmulti error addendum Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Another FreeBSD user had the same problem. He reports: root@yakko# atalkd AppleTalk not up! Child exited with 1. Apr 30 15:58:16 yakko atalkd[5673]: addmulti: Invalid argument Apr 30 15:59:01 yakko atalkd[5678]: addmulti: Invalid argument This seems to be because in atalkd/main.c at about line 1300 ioctl(s,cmd,&ifr) returns -1 also leaving errno set as EINVAL (22) basically, I don't get it, and really don't understand what ioctl should be called, for this to work. Patrick Yesterday I posted: I am attempting to run netatalk 1.4b2 on my FreeBSD 2.2.1 box. I have added "option NETATALK" to my kernel conf and recompiled. I have installed netatalk in /usr/local/atalk It compiled fine, but now I get an error when I try to start atalkd: AppleTalk not up! Child exited with 1. Aug 6 15:03:26 gateway atalkd[348]: addmulti: Invalid argument We have an AppleTalk network of 3 Macs running EtherTalk (OS 8, OS 7.5.3 and OS 7.5.5). The AppleTalk is running, for sure. The ethernet card is lnc1. I've tried without an atalkd.conf and with. My atalkd.conf is: lnc1 -phase 2 root@yakko# atalkd AppleTalk not up! Child exited with 1. Apr 30 15:58:16 yakko atalkd[5673]: addmulti: Invalid argument Apr 30 15:59:01 yakko atalkd[5678]: addmulti: Invalid argument This seems to be because in atalkd/main.c at about line 1300 ioctl(s,cmd,&ifr) returns -1 also leaving errno set as EINVAL (22) basically, I don't get it, and really don't understand what ioctl should be called, for this to work. ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Patrick Gardella Date: 07-Aug-97 Time: 10:50:23 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 7 14:12:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA18391; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 14:12:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oit.duke.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA18387; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 14:12:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from panther.oit.duke.edu (mario@panther.oit.duke.edu [152.3.202.185]) by oit.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.3.4) with ESMTP id OAA00396; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 14:12:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mario@localhost) by panther.oit.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.4) with SMTP id OAA04137; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 14:12:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 14:12:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mario L. Gonzales" Reply-To: mario@oit.duke.edu To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] AFS/KERBEROS Support on Solaris 2.5.1 with netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a13 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi Folks, I am having a horrible time getting AFS and Kerberos to work with netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a13. I have Kerberos 4a10, and am using afs-3.4a.516. I can --finally-- *yea* get netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a13 to compile on my Solaris 2.5.1 box (Sparc 5) with Kerberos and AFS support disabled -- and it works just fine. actually before this last mod by Sun -- that was impossible. I am not the greatest compiler and I know just enough C to be dangerous :) So if anyone has been able to get AFS and Kerberos Support to work with Sun's TCP/IP mods to netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a13 I would be very interested in chatting with you as soon as possible. :) Just in case someone can see what is going wrong -- (I think it might actually be an error in the code itself but I am not quite sure).... Here is the last bits of output before the complie dies... if [ x"/usr/afsws" != x ]; then \ AFSLIBS="-lkauth -lprot -lubik -lauth -lsys -lrxkad -lrx -laudit \ -llwp -lcmd -lcom_err /usr/afsws/lib/afs/util.a -ldes"; \ AFSLIBDIRS="-L/usr/afsws/lib -L/usr/afsws/lib/afs"; \ AFSINCPATH="-I/usr/afsws/include"; \ AFSDEFS="-DAFS"; \ fi; \ make CC="gcc" ADDLIBS="-lsocket -lnsl" DEFS="-I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS" \ OPTOPTS="-O" DESTDIR="/spare/atalk" \ SBINDIR="/spare/atalk/etc" BINDIR="/spare/atalk/bin" RESDIR="/spare/atalk/etc" \ ETCDIR="/spare/atalk/etc" LIBDIR="/spare/atalk/lib" INCDIR="/spare/atalk/include" \ KRBLIBS="${KRBLIBS}" KRBLIBDIRS="${KRBLIBDIRS}" \ KRBINCPATH="${KRBINCPATH}" KRBDEFS="${KRBDEFS}" \ AFSLIBS="${AFSLIBS}" AFSLIBDIRS="${AFSLIBDIRS}" \ AFSINCPATH="${AFSINCPATH}" AFSDEFS="${AFSDEFS}" \ afpd gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -DAFS -DKRB -O -I../../include -I/usr/afsws/include -I/usr/pkg/krb4-10a/include -DAPPLCNAME -DCRLF -c afs.c afs.c:40: warning: `min' redefined /usr/afsws/include/afs/stds.h:197: warning: this is the location of the previous definition afs.c:62: parse error before `AFPObj' afs.c:62: warning: data definition has no type or storage class afs.c:65: parse error before `{' afs.c:73: parse error before `+=' afs.c:74: parse error before `&' afs.c:81: parse error before `&' afs.c:104: `vi' undeclared here (not in a function) afs.c:104: warning: initialization makes pointer from integer without a cast afs.c:104: initializer element is not constant afs.c:104: warning: data definition has no type or storage class afs.c:105: parse error before `return' afs.c:167: parse error before `AFPObj' afs.c:167: warning: data definition has no type or storage class afs.c:170: parse error before `{' afs.c:178: redefinition of `rbuflen' afs.c:104: `rbuflen' previously defined here afs.c:178: warning: data definition has no type or storage class afs.c:179: conflicting types for `iend' afs.c:174: previous declaration of `iend' afs.c:179: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast afs.c:179: initializer element is not constant afs.c:179: warning: data definition has no type or storage class afs.c:180: parse error before `+=' afs.c:181: parse error before `&' afs.c:188: parse error before `&' afs.c:216: parse error before string constant *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `afs.o' Current working directory /spare/mario/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a13/etc/afpd *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all' Current working directory /spare/mario/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a13/etc/afpd *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `afpd' Current working directory /spare/mario/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a13/etc *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `../../etc' Current working directory /spare/mario/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a13/sys/solaris *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all' --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Systems Administration Group, O.I.T. phone://919.660.7037/ | Duke University, 412 North Building fax://919.660.7029/ | Durham, NC 27708 mailto:mario@oit.duke.edu | http://www.oit.duke.edu/~mario/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOR MY PGP PUBLIC KEY: "finger -m mario@acpub.duke.edu | pgp -fka" From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 7 15:48:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA20617; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 15:48:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA20613; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 15:48:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA07227; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 15:48:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA07219 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 15:48:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phibes.dartmouth.edu (phibes.dartmouth.edu [129.170.18.45]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA07196 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 15:48:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phibes.dartmouth.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phibes.dartmouth.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12743 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 15:48:19 -0400 Message-Id: <199708071948.PAA12743@phibes.dartmouth.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] YA: netatalk for AIX v4? Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 15:48:19 +22306356 From: Pat Wilson Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I looked through the mailing list archive, but didn't see any answer - is anyone working on a port of netatalk 1.3.x to AIX v4 (or v3.2.5 - I'm not that picky)? If not AIX, how about Digital Unix? Thanks. Obviously on the _wrong_ OS boats, Pat Wilson paw@darmtouth.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 7 16:49:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id QAA22922; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 16:49:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oit.duke.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA22918; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 16:49:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from panther.oit.duke.edu (mario@panther.oit.duke.edu [152.3.202.185]) by oit.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.3.4) with ESMTP id QAA09463; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 16:49:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mario@localhost) by panther.oit.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.4) with SMTP id QAA05182; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 16:49:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 16:49:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mario L. Gonzales" Reply-To: mario@oit.duke.edu To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Need very technical info/pointers/etc on AFS/KRB4 implementations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello Folks, I am trying to find some resources to help me understand how the Kerberos and AFS support are implemented in netatalk. I am very concerned about security and the possible violation of the Kerberos/AFS security models (ie trusting a non-trusted source, clear text passwords, unauthenticated acccess to afs file systems, key theft, ticket theft, etc). Does anyone have any information on what Security model netatalk uses? What steps are taken to not allow unauthenticated access to afs data? Is netatalk a proxy for the client to talk to the afs servers? Does netatalk authenticate for you and how? I guess I am paranoid and cannot seem to find any information via the FAQ's. Also went so far as to AltaVista Search for tidbits and could not find anything. Thanks again, Mario --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Systems Administration Group, O.I.T. phone://919.660.7037/ | Duke University, 412 North Building fax://919.660.7029/ | Durham, NC 27708 mailto:mario@oit.duke.edu | http://www.oit.duke.edu/~mario/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOR MY PGP PUBLIC KEY: "finger -m mario@acpub.duke.edu | pgp -fka" From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 7 17:48:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id RAA24890; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 17:48:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA24886; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 17:48:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA17934; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 17:48:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA17932 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 17:48:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shark.sfei.org (shark.sfei.org [204.118.78.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA17922 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 17:48:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.118.78.9] (salmon.sfei.org [204.118.78.9]) by shark.sfei.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14579; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 14:49:31 -0700 X-Sender: mike@shark.sfei.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 14:48:31 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Michael May Subject: [netatalk-admins] Mac OS 8 and netatalk volumes--jumpy Finder windows Cc: todd@sfei.org Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have seen this problem mentioned once or twice, but have seen no response/solution. Perhaps it is rare? Anyway, here's the problem: Under Mac OS 8, and linux netatalk 1.4b2, Finder windows displaying files on a netatalk volume are "jumpy". The total number of files will show correctly, then 10 sec later will briefly jump up about 20%, then back down, and repeat every 10 secs or so... Some of the files are listed twice when the total file number jumps up. These file "duplicates" then disappear when the file number listing goes back to normal. This behavior is seen on a 2GB netatalk volume with a total of several thousand files. The root directory, however, has only 90 or so "items," which then jump up to about 110 items (the number can vary slightly) when the problem occurs. This problem never occured under OS 7.6. Also, a regular AppleShare volume mounted on the same computer (Quadra 610) does not have the problem. Any clues? Mike ---------------------------- Michael May San Francisco Estuary Institute (510) 231-9539 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 7 18:26:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id SAA25643; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 18:26:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA25639; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 18:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA27438; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 18:26:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA27427 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 18:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.saratoga.award.com (www.saratoga.award.com [38.168.77.15]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA27414 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 18:26:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [38.168.77.72] (hugo.saratoga.award.com [38.168.77.72]) by www.saratoga.award.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA24048; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 15:51:25 -0700 Message-Id: <199708072251.PAA24048@www.saratoga.award.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Mac OS 8 and netatalk volumes--jumpy Find Date: Thu, 7 Aug 97 15:31:15 -0700 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Jay To: "Michael May" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Michael May writes: >I have seen this problem mentioned once or twice, but have seen no >response/solution. Perhaps it is rare? Anyway, here's the problem: > >Under Mac OS 8, and linux netatalk 1.4b2, Finder windows displaying files >on a netatalk volume are "jumpy". The total number of files will show >correctly, then 10 sec later will briefly jump up about 20%, then back >down, and repeat every 10 secs or so... Some of the files are listed twice >when the total file number jumps up. These file "duplicates" then disappear >when the file number listing goes back to normal. > >This behavior is seen on a 2GB netatalk volume with a total of several >thousand files. The root directory, however, has only 90 or so "items," >which then jump up to about 110 items (the number can vary slightly) when >the problem occurs. > >This problem never occured under OS 7.6. Also, a regular AppleShare volume >mounted on the same computer (Quadra 610) does not have the problem. > >Any clues? I'm one of those that has complained about this problem for some time now. Unfortunately it appears that no one that is active with the netatalk source has seen this. :-( As for clues, it _appears_ to only affect files that are not created by a Mac client. E.g., files that pre-existed on the server - and are mapped to Macintosh file types by the .AppleVolumes file. I have no problems with files created by Mac client, and I have no problems with files that pre-existed on the server, but are not mapped to a Mac type/creator. Note that my testing has been very limited, so these observations may not be conclusive. As far as I'm concerned, netatalk is completely unusable under Mac OS 8. This is a shame, 'cuz prior to Mac OS 8, it worked like a champ. Jay O'Conor jco@saratoga.award.com From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 7 19:05:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id TAA26526; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 19:05:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA26521; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 19:04:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA16414; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 19:04:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA16410 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 19:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shark.sfei.org (root@shark.sfei.org [204.118.78.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA16400 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 19:04:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.118.78.9] (salmon.sfei.org [204.118.78.9]) by shark.sfei.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15185; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 16:05:19 -0700 X-Sender: mike@shark.sfei.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199708072251.PAA24048@www.saratoga.award.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 16:04:20 -0700 To: Jay From: Michael May Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Mac OS 8 and netatalk volumes--jumpy Find Cc: Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Thanks for the info, Jay. >it _appears_ to only affect files that are not created by a >Mac client. E.g., files that pre-existed on the server - and are mapped >to Macintosh file types by the .AppleVolumes file. It appears on our server that non-Mac-created files that both are and are _not_ mapped to Mac file types are affected. It does seem true that Mac-created files do not have the prob. >As far as I'm concerned, netatalk is completely unusable under Mac OS 8. File listings in open and save dialogues seem to behave normally. I have been cautiously using our netatalk server under OS 8 in spite of this prob, and have not suffered any file loss, etc. ---------------------------- Michael May San Francisco Estuary Institute (510) 231-9539 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 7 19:24:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id TAA27025; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 19:24:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA27021; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 19:23:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA08565; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 19:23:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA08563 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 19:23:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from awenet.com (awenet.com [204.57.202.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA08559 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 19:23:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost ([[UNIX: localhost]]) by awenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA06163; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 16:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 16:18:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "William R. Dickson" To: Michael May cc: Jay , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Mac OS 8 and netatalk volumes--jumpy Find In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > >As far as I'm concerned, netatalk is completely unusable under Mac OS 8. You might find it worthwhile to try Adrian Sun's latest work on Netatalk, which (among other things) adds AFP/TCP support. In his latest patches, he changed something (I forget what) that has solved the problems you describe, at least on my 6100 and 7100. -Bill -- William R. Dickson -- Consuming the Earth's limited resources since 1968 wrd@awenet.com <> http://www.halcyon.com/wrd/ <> VNB3T, VSC1T, VSX1T Lady Marian Fitzswalter: "Why, you speak treason!" Sir Robin of Locksley: "Fluently." - The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938) From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 7 19:59:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id TAA27734; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 19:59:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA27730; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 19:59:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA14746; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 19:59:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA14744 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 19:59:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA14736 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 19:59:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27577; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 16:59:31 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA00568; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 16:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 16:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708072359.QAA00568@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: mmay@sfei.org CC: jco@saratoga.award.com, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from Michael May on Thu, 7 Aug 1997 16:04:20 -0700) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Mac OS 8 and netatalk volumes--jumpy Find Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu It appears on our server that non-Mac-created files that both are and are _not_ mapped to Mac file types are affected. It does seem true that Mac-created files do not have the prob. i think i might have an idea of what's happening here. could people having this problem do the following: 1) find a file which likes to jump around a lot. 2) edit .AppleDouble/file and tell me if it has TEXTUNIX in it. 3) if it does, edit that to the reflect the actual type/creator for that file (e.g., JPEGJVWR for jpeg files). you'll need an editor which can deal w/ binary data. 4) tell me if the jumping around for that file still occurs. basically, i think there's a little war going on because netatalk is sending os8 conflictory information on what the type/creator fields should be. ugh. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 8 02:49:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id CAA10579; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 02:49:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id CAA10575; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 02:48:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA08431; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 02:48:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA08429 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 02:48:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id CAA08416; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 02:48:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA28849; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 23:48:41 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA00762; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 23:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 23:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708080648.XAA00762@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, netatalk@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] os8, finder info yuckiness, and a fix Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu well, i'm pretty sure i've fixed the problem w/ finder updates. os8 uses bits that it didn't before. netatalk, of course, does the wrong thing and touches those bits. here's what happens: mac gets a directory list. mac realizes that the finder info is wrong for files which weren't copied to the server (e.g., the .??? files). mac sends back a correction for that info. netatalk disregards that correction repeat until thoroughly confused. anyways, i've made available a patch to a14 to fix this. it's at the standard place of ftp.u.washington.edu:/public/asun as asun2.0a13-a14.diff.gz. it also fixes a couple other small things. you might need to delete the "diff -u3" references from the patch file if your version of patch doesn't ignore those. after applying the patch, your mac will happily correct your incorrect resource forks so things should just start working. here's the fix for 1.4b2: --- file.c.save Thu Aug 7 23:22:55 1997 +++ file.c Thu Aug 7 23:47:43 1997 @@ -124,8 +124,7 @@ break; case FILPBIT_FINFO : - if ( !isad || - bcmp( ad_entry( &ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), ufinderi, 8 ) == 0 ) { + if ( !isad ) { bcopy( ufinderi, data, 32 ); if (( em = getextmap( path )) != NULL ) { bcopy( em->em_type, data, sizeof( em->em_type )); @@ -333,7 +332,6 @@ u_short bitmap; { struct adouble ad; - struct extmap *em; int bit = 0; u_short ashort, bshort; u_long along; @@ -397,16 +395,6 @@ break; case FILPBIT_FINFO : - if (( ad_getoflags( &ad, ADFLAGS_HF ) & O_CREAT ) || - bcmp( ad_entry( &ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), ufinderi, 8 ) == 0 ) { - if (( em = getextmap( path )) != NULL ) { - if ( bcmp( buf, em->em_type, sizeof( em->em_type )) == 0 && - bcmp( buf + 4, em->em_creator, - sizeof( em->em_creator )) == 0 ) { - bcopy( ufinderi, buf, 8 ); - } - } - } bcopy( buf, ad_entry( &ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), 32 ); buf += 32; break; From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 8 04:49:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id EAA25283; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 04:49:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id EAA25277; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 04:49:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id EAA25274; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 04:49:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA25264; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 04:49:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708080849.EAA25264@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: a sun cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, netatalk@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: os8, finder info yuckiness, and a fix In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Aug 1997 23:48:42 PDT." <199708080648.XAA00762@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 04:49:28 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: a sun > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, netatalk@umich.edu > after applying the patch, your mac will happily correct your incorrect > resource forks so things should just start working. Ah, I don't know that I'd apply this patch... While it's certainly a good call what's happening, removing the checks will break the dynamic nature of the extension maps, i.e. once you've opened and closed a directory once, all files will have their types set. The "stock" file extension code doesn't do this, instead it leaves all Unix files with a server-side type and creator of TEXT/UNIX, changing the information on the fly as the client asks for it. That way, if you edit your extension map, all the files magically change type. It's even the case that changing the name of an extension mapped file changes it's type... In any case, I think there must be a better fix. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 8 05:25:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id FAA26332; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 05:25:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id FAA26328; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 05:25:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA20133; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 05:25:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA20131 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 05:25:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id FAA20124; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 05:25:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA29305; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 02:24:48 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA00857; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 02:24:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 02:24:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708080924.CAA00857@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: wesley.craig@umich.edu CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, netatalk@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199708080849.EAA25264@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> (wesley.craig@umich.edu) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: os8, finder info yuckiness, and a fix Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu While it's certainly a good call what's happening, removing the checks will break the dynamic nature of the extension maps, i.e. once you've opened and closed a directory once, all files will have their types set. The "stock" file extension code doesn't do this, instead it leaves all Unix files with a server-side type and creator of TEXT/UNIX, changing the information on the fly as the client asks for it. That way, if you edit your extension map, all the files magically change type. It's even the case that changing the name of an extension mapped file changes it's type... erk. i didn't realize that people did that. i guess my patch was a little too extreme. in any case, all that needs to be done is make sure that the finder info sans type/creator gets saved and returned. i'll submit something suitable in a little bit. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 8 06:22:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id GAA27645; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 06:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA27641; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 06:22:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA24113; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 06:22:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA24111 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 06:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from truffaut.webservices.net (truffaut.webservices.net [194.72.236.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA24101 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 06:22:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.72.236.79] (jamie.webmedia.co.uk [194.72.236.79]) by truffaut.webservices.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04523; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:25:13 GMT X-Sender: jamie@mail.webmedia.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 11:18:36 +0100 To: Michael May , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Jamie Unwin Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Mac OS 8 and netatalk volumes--jumpy Finder windows Cc: todd@sfei.org Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu We are having the same problems with netatalk on Solaris. At 2:48 PM -0700 7/8/97, Michael May wrote: >I have seen this problem mentioned once or twice, but have seen no >response/solution. Perhaps it is rare? Anyway, here's the problem: > >Under Mac OS 8, and linux netatalk 1.4b2, Finder windows displaying files >on a netatalk volume are "jumpy". The total number of files will show >correctly, then 10 sec later will briefly jump up about 20%, then back >down, and repeat every 10 secs or so... Some of the files are listed twice >when the total file number jumps up. These file "duplicates" then disappear >when the file number listing goes back to normal. > >This behavior is seen on a 2GB netatalk volume with a total of several >thousand files. The root directory, however, has only 90 or so "items," >which then jump up to about 110 items (the number can vary slightly) when >the problem occurs. > >This problem never occured under OS 7.6. Also, a regular AppleShare volume >mounted on the same computer (Quadra 610) does not have the problem. > >Any clues? > >Mike > >---------------------------- >Michael May >San Francisco Estuary Institute >(510) 231-9539 _______________________________________________ - Jamie Unwin Webmedia Ltd, 2 Kendall Place - Web Developer London, W1H 3AH _______________________________________________ - [e] jamie@webmedia.com [t] (0171) 224 7244 - [w] http://www.webmedia.com [f] (0171) 224 7049 _______________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 8 10:20:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA00738; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:20:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cc00mh.unity.ncsu.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA00732; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:20:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [152.1.11.13] (ivanova.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.11.13]) by cc00mh.unity.ncsu.edu (8.8.4/US19Dec96) with ESMTP id KAA21099; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:19:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: user@hesiod Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 10:19:50 -0400 To: mario@oit.duke.edu From: Everette G Allen Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Need very technical info/pointers/etc on AFS/KRB4 implementations Cc: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, For netatalk 1.3.3 there exsists two schemes for kerberos authentication and AFS authorization: 1) Via the Authman User Authentication Method (UAM) which is to my knowledge not documented except to read the source code (even the document from apple about UAM's in general is obscure and not available unless you beg one of the developers inside apple). For AFP Spec 2.2 one the AppleShare IP developers (Leland Wallace) is working on a UAM SDK and there is a proposed afp url scheme (see http://www.opendoors.com/asip/ for details). See the technical docs at http://appleshareip.apple.com for details on AFP 2.2 and how to join the appleshare ip 5.0 list to get info on implemention and testing. There used to be source for the mac part of the UAM on ftp://terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu but I have not been able to find it and Wes Craig has not to my knowledge had time to document it or make the code available. What about it Wes?? 2) The folks at Stanford did a project called netatalk 1.3.3su which is available as source and sunos binary from ftp://networking.stanford.edu/pub/andy/Macleland. This mod impements a callback routine over appletalk (in version 1 and 2) initially and latter (version 3) over tcp/ip using the S/Ident protocol RFC (now expire in ietf, check with Bob Morgan at Stanford) and a generalized call back routine detailed at http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~torg/WWW-security.doc.html. This latter version is still in developement at Stanford and is not in the binary or source in the ftp site listed above. Look at http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~maas/macleland/ and http://www-dccs.stanford.edu/macleland/ for details. Feel free to have a look at http://www4.ncsu.edu/~ega/macleland/netatalk.html for setup and install documentation details for the setup we use here at ncsu. This mod requires that a listener be running on every mac client (MacLeland). Some folks at Duke already run macleland (see http://www.duke.edu/~jwk3/kerberos/ if you didn't already know :-). So the difference in the two: a) UAM is plugin (file://System Folder/AppleShare Folder) to the AppleShare connection scheme which is (now, again) supported by Apple. Currently UAMs are supported only over appletalk with tcp/ip RSN. Authman is required to be installed(ftp://monet.ccs.itd.umich.edu/pub/). The callback is a Stanford home grown which they are using for web authentication as well. b) UAM should work with 1.4.x netatalk. To my knowledge no one has ported the Stanford mods to the netatalk 1.4.x beta yet. Anyone game?? c) Neither support kerberos V5 native and neither are interoperatable. So the UAM can not be used with MacLeland nor Kclient and the Callback can not be used with Kclient nor Authman. (its much worse with samba on pc). If anyone else has additional or better information please post or send to me and I will summarize. >Hello Folks, > >I am trying to find some resources to help me understand how the >Kerberos and AFS support are implemented in netatalk. > >I am very concerned about security and the possible violation of the >Kerberos/AFS security models (ie trusting a non-trusted source, >clear text passwords, unauthenticated acccess to afs file systems, >key theft, ticket theft, etc). > >Does anyone have any information on what Security model netatalk uses? >What steps are taken to not allow unauthenticated access to afs data? > >Is netatalk a proxy for the client to talk to the afs servers? >Does netatalk authenticate for you and how? > >I guess I am paranoid and cannot seem to find any information >via the FAQ's. Also went so far as to AltaVista Search for tidbits >and could not find anything. > >Thanks again, > > Mario > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > | Systems Administration Group, O.I.T. > phone://919.660.7037/ | Duke University, 412 North Building > fax://919.660.7029/ | Durham, NC 27708 > mailto:mario@oit.duke.edu | http://www.oit.duke.edu/~mario/ >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > FOR MY PGP PUBLIC KEY: "finger -m mario@acpub.duke.edu | pgp -fka" Everette Gray Allen Consultant IV Box 7109 NCState Campus Computing Services Raleigh, NC 27695-7109 919-515-2517 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 8 12:12:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA04376; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:12:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA04335; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:12:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA07268; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:12:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA07260 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:12:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (DiKw358RYXP8vLaFRnHd1WFNhqIQZcrf@zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA07212; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:12:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA30672; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 09:12:06 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA01097; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 09:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 09:12:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708081612.JAA01097@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: asun@zoology.washington.edu CC: wesley.craig@umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu, netatalk@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199708080924.CAA00857@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> (message from a sun on Fri, 8 Aug 1997 02:24:53 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: os8, finder info yuckiness, and a fix Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu here's my new fix for 1.4b2. after i've tested to see if it works properly, i'll make a new a13-14-2 which incorporates it. anyways, it should preserve dynamic extension maps at the cost of an extra copy. --- fork.c.save Fri Aug 8 08:45:41 1997 +++ fork.c Fri Aug 8 08:52:41 1997 @@ -709,15 +709,16 @@ break; case FILPBIT_FINFO : - if ( !isad || bcmp( ad_entry( &ofork->of_ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), + memcpy(data, isad ? ad_entry(&ofork->of_ad, ADEID_FINDERI) : + ufinderi, 32); + + if (!isad || bcmp( ad_entry( &ofork->of_ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), ufinderi, 8 ) == 0 ) { - bcopy( ufinderi, data, 32 ); + bcopy( ufinderi, data, 8 ); if (( em = getextmap( ofork->of_name )) != NULL ) { bcopy( em->em_type, data, sizeof( em->em_type )); bcopy( em->em_creator, data + 4, sizeof( em->em_creator )); } - } else { - bcopy( ad_entry( &ofork->of_ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), data, 32 ); } data += 32; break; --- file.c.save Fri Aug 8 08:44:49 1997 +++ file.c Fri Aug 8 09:06:34 1997 @@ -124,15 +124,16 @@ break; case FILPBIT_FINFO : + memcpy(data, isad ? ad_entry(&ad, ADEID_FINDERI) : + ufinderi, 32); + if ( !isad || bcmp( ad_entry( &ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), ufinderi, 8 ) == 0 ) { - bcopy( ufinderi, data, 32 ); + bcopy( ufinderi, data, 8); if (( em = getextmap( path )) != NULL ) { bcopy( em->em_type, data, sizeof( em->em_type )); bcopy( em->em_creator, data + 4, sizeof( em->em_creator )); } - } else { - bcopy( ad_entry( &ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), data, 32 ); } data += 32; break; @@ -407,7 +408,7 @@ } } } - bcopy( buf, ad_entry( &ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), 32 ); + memcpy(ad_entry( &ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), buf, 32 ); buf += 32; break; From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 8 12:33:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA05127; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:33:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA05121; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:33:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA14182; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA14166 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:33:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from donkey.outsmart.net (donkey.outsmart.net [207.213.214.74]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id MAA14115 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:33:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 4953 invoked from network); 8 Aug 1997 16:32:55 -0000 Received: from wilbur.oaty.com (HELO ?192.168.1.200?) (192.168.1.200) by donkey.outsmart.net with SMTP; 8 Aug 1997 16:32:55 -0000 X-Sender: john@donkey.oaty.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 09:32:53 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: John Grant Subject: [netatalk-admins] Asun's suggested changes... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Are an improvement (IMHO). The original code forces its type/creator guesses on you. The first time the server sees a (non-mac) file, it looks up a "suitable" set of values from its configuration. If you don't like the choice, well, you're out of luck - changes made with "Get Info" don't work, the "guess" always overrules get info. At best the look-up table contains guesses of suitable type/creators; so using this file the first time a file is seen makes sense, may as well guess something. This value should then be left alone, if someone comes along with get info and updates the values, great ! I'd rather have someone use "Get Info", than try to select a suitable dot3 extension (esp. since they can't even see what the mappings are). --- John From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 8 15:23:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA09813; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:23:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA09809; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:23:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA22963; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:23:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA22956 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:23:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA22945 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:23:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA31835 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:22:52 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA01445; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708081923.MAA01445@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from John Grant on Fri, 8 Aug 1997 09:32:53 -0700) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Asun's suggested changes... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu well, people using my afp/tcp patches can get asun2.0a13-13-2.diff.gz from ftp.u.washington.edu:/public/asun. it should make those pesky folder updates go away. this patch has the same behavior w.r.t. how the extension map is treated as 1.4b2 although i'm not partial to that feature. in any case, there's only one place that needs changing to do the non-dynamic extension mapping. you just need to change setfilparams to actually write out the type/creator fields. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 8 15:35:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA10218; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:35:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA10210; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:35:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA12232; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:35:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA12224 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:35:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (PmlaCoygK3fxfzs5KoQryNu9vFnRKYgZ@zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA12215 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:35:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA31886 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:34:28 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA01467; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708081934.MAA01467@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199708081923.MAA01445@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> (message from a sun on Fri, 8 Aug 1997 12:23:15 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Asun's suggested changes... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu well, people using my afp/tcp patches can get asun2.0a13-13-2.diff.gz from ftp.u.washington.edu:/public/asun. it should make those pesky folder updates go away. this patch has the same behavior w.r.t. how the extension map is treated as 1.4b2 although i'm not partial to that feature. of course, i meant asun2.0a13-14-2.diff.gz. bleah. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 8 16:18:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id QAA11862; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 16:18:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id QAA11810; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 16:18:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id QAA11791; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 16:18:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA11757; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 16:17:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708082017.QAA11757@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: John Grant cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Asun's suggested changes... In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Aug 1997 09:32:53 PDT." Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 16:17:49 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: John Grant > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Are an improvement (IMHO). > The original code forces its type/creator guesses on you. The first time > the server sees a (non-mac) file, it looks up a "suitable" set of values > from its configuration. If you don't like the choice, well, you're out of > luck - changes made with "Get Info" don't work, the "guess" always > overrules get info. Your analysis is incorrect of afpd's behavior and Adrien's changes to it are in correct. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 8 16:47:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id QAA13373; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 16:47:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA13369; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 16:47:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA04013; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 16:47:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA04011 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 16:47:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (rvI/N/vfphl8OBolsOwME++zo1vB9KXV@zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA04006; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 16:47:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA32314; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 13:46:26 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA01634; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 13:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 13:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708082046.NAA01634@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: wesley.craig@umich.edu CC: jgrant@outsmart.net, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199708082017.QAA11757@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> (wesley.craig@umich.edu) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Asun's suggested changes... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Your analysis is incorrect of afpd's behavior and Adrien's changes to it are in correct. umm, i'm pretty sure that the most recent changes i submitted are correct modulo a need to cast a couple things as (void *). they should preserve the same behaviour as 1.4b2. on the other hand, you are correct in noting that if you change the file type/creator by using resedit or something, the changes become permanent. i can create a dummy file and watch its icon change when i change its extension. i still find it mildly disturbing. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 8 18:45:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id SAA19040; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 18:45:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id SAA19035; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 18:45:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id SAA19032; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 18:45:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA19015; Fri, 8 Aug 1997 18:45:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708082245.SAA19015@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: a sun cc: jgrant@outsmart.net, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Asun's suggested changes... In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Aug 1997 13:46:50 PDT." <199708082046.NAA01634@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 18:45:30 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: a sun > To: wesley.craig@umich.edu > on the other hand, you are > correct in noting that if you change the file type/creator by using > resedit or something, the changes become permanent. Precisely my point. I sorta figured you'd get it... > i can create a dummy file and watch its icon change when i change its > extension. i still find it mildly disturbing. What, only mildly? The first time I noticed that, I about puked. It is extremely handy, tho, when you've got an otherwise untyped file. Or if you'd like to change the mapping at a later date, which is the real point. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 11 08:28:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id IAA05865; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 08:28:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA05858; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 08:28:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA28709; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 08:28:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA28702 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 08:28:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from roush-ind.com (mail.roush-ind.com [206.253.246.11]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id IAA28696 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 08:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ROUSH-Message_Server by roush-ind.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 08:30:48 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 08:27:48 -0400 From: David Walker To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Anyone tried building netatalk under BeOS? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I suspect that this is probably a major undertaking (knowing very little about the underpinnings of networking in BeOS) but has anyone investigated whether netatalk might work with the BeOS semi-POSIX layer? -d.w. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 11 11:59:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA10754; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 11:59:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA10744; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 11:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA05072; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 11:59:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA05060 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 11:59:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cre8tivegroup.com (abt6.bitwise.net [204.97.222.226]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id LAA04958 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 11:59:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.255.227.83] by mail.cre8tivegroup.com (SMTPD32-3.04) id A730110C04EE; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 12:00:48 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 11:54:04 -0400 (EDT) Organization: The Creative Group From: Patrick Gardella To: netatalk@umich.edi, netatalk-admins@umich.edu, questions@freebsd.org Subject: [netatalk-admins] e: Netatalk Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Some more information on the problem I was working on from last week. Steven sent me this patch, which didn't work, but he suggests there might be a more appropriate patch. I'm using an Allied Telesyn AT-2450T PCI card on FreeBSD 2.2.1 and Netatalk 1.4b2. I get the error: AppleTalk not up! Child exited with 1. Aug 11 11:56:56 gateway atalkd[289]: addmulti: Invalid argument Aug 11 11:56:56 gateway atalkd[289]: addmulti: Invalid argument Any help would be appreciated. Patrick -----FW: ----- Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:52:27 +0100 (BST) From: Stephen Roome To: Patrick Gardella Subject: Re: Netatalk On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Patrick Gardella wrote: > Steve, > > Did you ever get an answer to your question? I've got an lnc1 that does > the same thing. Exact same error... (does the lnc actually support multicast properly ? I don't know and have no information either way whatsoever I'm just asking if you know for sure before you go any further, well, I started out with an Intel Etherexpress which doesn't do multicast properly at all and that didn't help things =) Anyway, I've got netatalk working fine now under -current, (well it's smp, so I have no choice). Julian Elischer (julian@whistle.com) sent me a patch which I've included on the end of this message. I beleive this is for current only though, although it's probably worth giving it a go =) (can't be any worse than not working at all.) It works now.. although the information about how atalkd can't be restarted is incorrect. to restart atalkd if you clear out all appletalk addresses (route flush/ifconfig delete altalk etc.) it seems to restart perfectly, just takes ages. Also I delete atalkd.conf when I restart as well, takes a minute to start completely, worth the wait though. Steve. (might be worth asking about if there is a more appropriate patch. This fixes the fact that netatalk thinks multicasting is done differently than it is under -current, I think.? ) -netatalk patch for current- diff -c netatalk-dist/etc/atalkd/main.c netatalk-dist.new/etc/atalkd/main.c *** netatalk-dist/etc/atalkd/main.c Mon Oct 21 15:45:03 1996 --- netatalk-dist.new/etc/atalkd/main.c Mon Jul 7 10:51:22 1997 *************** *** 18,23 **** --- 18,24 ---- #include #include #include + #include #include #include *************** *** 1149,1162 **** bootaddr( ciface ); } } else { /* configure multicast for this interface */ ! bzero( &sa, sizeof( struct sockaddr )); ! bcopy( ethermulti, sa.sa_data, sizeof( ethermulti )); ! if ( ifconfig( iface->i_name, SIOCADDMULTI, &sa )) { syslog( LOG_ERR, "addmulti: %m" ); exit( 1 ); } - zip_getnetinfo( iface ); } } --- 1150,1170 ---- bootaddr( ciface ); } } else { + struct sockaddr_dl *sdl = (struct sockaddr_dl *)&sa; /* configure multicast for this interface */ ! bzero( sdl, sizeof( struct sockaddr )); ! sdl->sdl_family = AF_LINK; ! sdl->sdl_nlen = 0 /* strlen(iface->i_name)*/; ! /*strncpy(sdl->sdl_data, iface->i_name, sdl->sdl_nlen);*/ ! bcopy( ethermulti, LLADDR(sdl), sizeof( ethermulti )); ! sdl->sdl_alen = sizeof( ethermulti ); ! sdl->sdl_len = sizeof(*sdl); ! /* (sdl->sdl_data + sdl->sdl_alen + sdl->sdl_nlen) ! - (char *)sdl; */ ! if ( ifconfig( iface->i_name, SIOCADDMULTI, sdl )) { syslog( LOG_ERR, "addmulti: %m" ); exit( 1 ); } zip_getnetinfo( iface ); } } diff -c netatalk-dist/etc/atalkd/nbp.c netatalk-dist.new/etc/atalkd/nbp.c *** netatalk-dist/etc/atalkd/nbp.c Sat Oct 5 08:17:53 1996 --- netatalk-dist.new/etc/atalkd/nbp.c Mon Jul 7 11:07:01 1997 *************** *** 7,13 **** --- 7,15 ---- #include #include #include + #include #include + #include #include #include #include *************** *** 185,190 **** --- 187,201 ---- for ( l = iface->i_rt->rt_zt; l; l = l->l_next ) { if ( zt == (struct ziptab *)l->l_data ) { /* add multicast */ + struct sockaddr_dl *sdl = (struct sockaddr_dl *)&sa; + sdl->sdl_family = AF_LINK; + sdl->sdl_nlen = 0; + bcopy( zt->zt_bcast, sdl->sdl_data, sizeof(ethermulti)); + sdl->sdl_alen = sizeof(ethermulti); + sdl->sdl_len = sizeof (*sdl); + /* (sdl->sdl_data + + sdl->sdl_alen + sdl->sdl_nlen) + - (char *)sdl; */ if ( ifconfig( iface->i_name, SIOCADDMULTI, &sa )) { syslog( LOG_ERR, "addmulti: %m" ); exit( 1 ); diff -c netatalk-dist/etc/atalkd/rtmp.c netatalk-dist.new/etc/atalkd/rtmp.c *** netatalk-dist/etc/atalkd/rtmp.c Wed Sep 18 12:05:18 1996 --- netatalk-dist.new/etc/atalkd/rtmp.c Thu Jun 5 17:48:55 1997 *************** *** 7,12 **** --- 7,13 ---- #include #include #include + #include #include #include #include -------------End of forwarding message------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 11 17:27:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id RAA19126; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:27:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA19122; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:27:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA01330; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:27:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA01328 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:27:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wasabi.it.uq.edu.au (wasabi.it.uq.edu.au [130.102.192.56]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA01319 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:27:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fife.it.uq.edu.au (stevenc@fife.it.uq.edu.au [130.102.64.13]) by wasabi.it.uq.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA07325 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 07:27:43 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (stevenc@localhost) by fife.it.uq.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA16921 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 07:27:34 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: fife.it.uq.edu.au: stevenc owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 07:27:33 +1000 (EST) From: Steven Cook X-Sender: stevenc@fife To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and ADSP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is there any plans to add the ADSP protocol to Netatalk soon? As we need it to write some programs that run between Apple Newtons and DEC's. If it is not then we will add it to the netatalk package ourselves. Steven Cook | Honours Student (CS) | Quote Currently Under Construction University Of Queensland | stevenc@it.uq.edu.au | From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 11 23:20:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id XAA26819; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 23:20:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id XAA26814; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 23:19:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA18915; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 23:19:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA18908 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 23:19:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tsd.lick-my.org (happywd@tsd.lick-my.org [206.104.9.70]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA18896 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 23:19:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (happywd@localhost) by tsd.lick-my.org (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA09601 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 1997 22:18:08 -0500 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 22:18:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Happy Weed To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] localtalk card Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is somewhat of the subject, I'm running redhat 4.2 with kernel 2.0.30, and got the ltpc patch for the 2.0.XX kernels. But When I try to patch my kernel I get errors doing it. I have an appletalk card. If you have any suggestions, I would love to hear them. Arie From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 12 12:50:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id MAA00459; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:50:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA00449; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA21969; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA21967 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:49:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx2.zenith.com (mx2.zenith.com [207.94.25.243]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA21948 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:49:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zenithe.com (unverified [136.166.62.64]) by mx2.zenith.com (Integralis SMTPRS 2.02) with SMTP id ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:52:36 -0500 Received: from [136.166.70.20] by zenithe.com (4.1/ZEC-3.04) id AA04989; Tue, 12 Aug 97 11:57:20 CDT Message-Id: <9708121657.AA04989@zenithe.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] 2-way encrypted passwords? Date: Tue, 12 Aug 97 11:48:08 -0500 X-Sender: dmgbbur@tvgurus.zenithe.com X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Ben Burch To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, folks! Okay... I am uncomfortable with the fact that passwords in netatalk are being sent "clear". Short of Kerberos, which I know is in some non-completed state, is there a patch to use the same password encryption scheme Appleshare itself uses? If not, is there some documentation on how this scheme works so that I could implement said patch myself? Thanks in advance! -- "Love is the law, love under will." Ben Burch ben.burch@zenith.com From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 12 13:24:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA02203; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:24:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA02197; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:24:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA03768; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:24:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA03744 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:24:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA03714 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:24:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id KAA24297; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 10:24:22 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 10:24:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: Ben Burch cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 2-way encrypted passwords? In-Reply-To: <9708121657.AA04989@zenithe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, Ben Burch wrote: > Hello, folks! > > Okay... I am uncomfortable with the fact that passwords in netatalk are > being sent "clear". Short of Kerberos, which I know is in some > non-completed state, is there a patch to use the same password encryption > scheme Appleshare itself uses? If not, is there some documentation on > how this scheme works so that I could implement said patch myself? The problem is that the Apple two-way encrypted technique requires the plain-text password be kept on the server. Other than that, it souldn't be too hard. IA, 2nd edition describes the encryption technique. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 12 13:26:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA02419; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:26:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA02408; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:26:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA29980; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:26:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA29962 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:26:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crashprone.allegheny.edu (crashprone.auhs.edu [192.54.238.27]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA29950 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:26:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by crashprone.allegheny.edu with smtp id m0wyKiA-0004HtC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:26:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:26:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Brennan Reply-To: Andrew Brennan To: Alistair Riddell cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Zones w/o routing? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Alistair Riddell wrote: > I'm afraid it looks like you'll have to persuade your network admins to > co-operate. If you want to be able to choose which zone each device on > your appears in then you must configure the seed router to create more > than one zone on the interface which is connected to your network segment. I am the only AppleTalk router on my segment. There is no conflict here ... but I can't seem to get my atalkd to advertise zones as it only has the one network interface. Do I need to use a fake second interface (dummy or perhaps a loopbacked ethernet interface) in the machine to get atalkd to act as a router?? > You can have more than one seed router on the network but they must all > agree about the zone list (among other things). I thought multiple seed routers was considered a poor practice - to the point of being strongly recommended against? > So if there is already a router connected to your network which has been > put there by network admins to connect you to anotehr network then the > configuration of that router will have to be changed. Hmm. My message wasn't clear. The network admins don't "do" Macs or AppleTalk, so there isn't any help from them in this matter. > If you configure a router to create zones on an interface which is not > physically connected to your network (e.g. loopback or dummy interface) > then those zones will appear in the chooser but you will not be able to > place any devices in them. I took a stab at this, but I'm still not seeing any zone info in my /etc/atalkd.conf - it's being rewritten without the zones. andrew. (brennan@auhs.edu) From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 12 13:41:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA03817; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:41:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA03813; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:41:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA09729; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:41:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA09596 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:41:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (root@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA09556 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:40:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA13816; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:40:43 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:40:43 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Andrew Brennan cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Zones w/o routing? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, Andrew Brennan wrote: > I am the only AppleTalk router on my segment. There is no conflict > here ... but I can't seem to get my atalkd to advertise zones as it > only has the one network interface. Do I need to use a fake second > interface (dummy or perhaps a loopbacked ethernet interface) in the > machine to get atalkd to act as a router?? You should not have to configure anything on loopback or dummy interfaces. >From my machine: frank:~> cat /etc/atalkd.conf eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 500-501 -addr 500.39 -zone "IT Department" -zone "Internet Servers" frank:~> This means that the network segment has two zones attached to it - IT Department and Internet Servers. Devices are by default in zone IT Department but you can choose to have a device in the zone Internet Servers. On a Mac this is done in the Appletalk or Network control panel. > I thought multiple seed routers was considered a poor practice - to > the point of being strongly recommended against? I don't see anything wrong with having more than on seed router on a subnet, as long as they agree on cable range and zone information. The above machine is one of three seed routers on the subnet. It just means that if one router goes down then there is still another one there to seed the network. -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 12 14:35:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA07194; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA07190; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:35:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA25954; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:35:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA25949 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:35:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pdx.oneworld.com (iceberg.pdx.oneworld.com [204.87.185.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id OAA25901 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:35:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from quando.com by pdx.oneworld.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0wyLmS-000hypC; Tue, 12 Aug 97 11:34 PDT Received: from [143.227.36.154] by quando.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:40:16 -0700 X-Sender: noahi@mail.quando.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:34:02 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Noah Iliinsky Subject: [netatalk-admins] limit on number of users Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Howdy. We've just increased the number of people using Netatalk, and now we're getting errors saying that no more can be logged on. Is this limit user definable? I don't remember seeing it in the docs. Thanks, Noah -- Noah Iliinsky noahi@quando.com Webmaster (503) 225-1988 vox Quando, Inc. (503) 225-1987 fax From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 12 14:41:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA07575; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:41:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA07562; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:41:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA01594; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:41:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA01452 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:40:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (root@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA01390 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:40:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA14002; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 19:40:40 +0100 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 19:40:40 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Noah Iliinsky cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] limit on number of users In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >From "man afpd" -c maxconnections Specifies the maximum number of connections to allow for this afpd. The default is 5. so to have a maximum of ten people using your server at one time, start afpd with "-c 10" on the command line. On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, Noah Iliinsky wrote: > Howdy. > > We've just increased the number of people using Netatalk, and now we're getting errors saying that no more can be logged on. Is this limit user definable? I don't remember seeing it in the docs. > > Thanks, Noah > > -- > Noah Iliinsky noahi@quando.com > Webmaster (503) 225-1988 vox > Quando, Inc. (503) 225-1987 fax > > > -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 12 14:46:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA08104; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA08098; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:46:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA00428; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA00409 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:46:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from schooner.multi-ad.com ([207.56.32.18]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA00391 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:46:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgw.multi-ad.com ([207.56.32.25]) by schooner.multi-ad.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA22493 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:43:58 -0500 Date: 12 Aug 97 13:43:48 -0500 From: Bob Fahey Subject: [netatalk-admins] limit on number of users To: "netatalk-admins" Message-ID: <970812.134348@multi-ad.com> X-Mailer: QM-Internet Gateway 1.0.1 X-Priority: 4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu [netatalk-admins] limit on number of users 8/12/97 11:= 34 AM Howdy. We've just increased the number of people using Netatalk, and now we're = getting errors saying that no more can be logged on. Is this limit user = definable? I don't remember seeing it in the docs. Thanks, Noah -- Noah Iliinsky noahi@quando.com Webmaster (503) 225-1988 vox Quando, Inc. (503) 225-1987 fax -------- RFC-822 Header: RECEIVED: from JUNK.MULTI-AD.COM by smtpgw.multi-ad.com ; 12 AUG 97 13:38:= 29 UT Received: from schooner.multi-ad.com (schooner.multi-ad.com [207.56.32.18])= by junk.multi-ad.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA12962 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:36:58 -0500 Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ([141.211.164.2]) by schooner.multi-ad.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA22453 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:33:56 -0500 Received: from localhost by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with SMTP id OAA07219; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (bulk_mailer v1.5+); Tue, 12 Aug = 1997 14:35:15 -0400 Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA07194; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.= 6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA07190; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:35:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA25954; Tue, = 12 Aug 1997 14:35:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA25949 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:= 35:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pdx.oneworld.com (iceberg.pdx.oneworld.com [204.87.185.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id OAA25901 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:35:05 -0400 (= EDT) Received: from quando.com by pdx.oneworld.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0wyLmS-000hypC; Tue, 12 Aug 97 11:34 PDT Received: from [143.227.36.154] by quando.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:40:16 -= 0700 X-Sender: noahi@mail.quando.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:34:02 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Noah Iliinsky Subject: [netatalk-admins] limit on number of users Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 12 14:47:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA08339; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:47:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA08321; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:47:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA00891; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:47:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA00886 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:47:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from schooner.multi-ad.com ([207.56.32.18]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA00860 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:47:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgw.multi-ad.com ([207.56.32.25]) by schooner.multi-ad.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA22510 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:45:13 -0500 Date: 12 Aug 97 13:46:24 -0500 From: Bob Fahey Subject: FWD>[netatalk-admins] limit on number of users To: Netatalk Message-ID: <970812.134624@multi-ad.com> X-Mailer: QM-Internet Gateway 1.0.1 X-Priority: 4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu FWD>[netatalk-admins] limit on number of users 8/12/97 11:= 34 AM I believe it is an option for afpd -- try "-c <# connections>". -------------------------------------- Date: 8/12/97 1:38 PM From: Noah Iliinsky Howdy. We've just increased the number of people using Netatalk, and now we're = getting errors saying that no more can be logged on. Is this limit user = definable? I don't remember seeing it in the docs. Thanks, Noah -- Noah Iliinsky noahi@quando.com Webmaster (503) 225-1988 vox Quando, Inc. (503) 225-1987 fax -------- RFC-822 Header: RECEIVED: from JUNK.MULTI-AD.COM by smtpgw.multi-ad.com ; 12 AUG 97 13:38:= 29 UT Received: from schooner.multi-ad.com (schooner.multi-ad.com [207.56.32.18])= by junk.multi-ad.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA12962 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:36:58 -0500 Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ([141.211.164.2]) by schooner.multi-ad.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA22453 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 13:33:56 -0500 Received: from localhost by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with SMTP id OAA07219; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (bulk_mailer v1.5+); Tue, 12 Aug = 1997 14:35:15 -0400 Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA07194; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.= 6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA07190; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:35:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA25954; Tue, = 12 Aug 1997 14:35:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA25949 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:= 35:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pdx.oneworld.com (iceberg.pdx.oneworld.com [204.87.185.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id OAA25901 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:35:05 -0400 (= EDT) Received: from quando.com by pdx.oneworld.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0wyLmS-000hypC; Tue, 12 Aug 97 11:34 PDT Received: from [143.227.36.154] by quando.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:40:16 -= 0700 X-Sender: noahi@mail.quando.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:34:02 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Noah Iliinsky Subject: [netatalk-admins] limit on number of users Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 12 14:48:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA08495; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:48:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA08406; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA03988; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA03982 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pdx.oneworld.com (iceberg.pdx.oneworld.com [204.87.185.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id OAA03958 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from quando.com by pdx.oneworld.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0wyLyy-000hyqC; Tue, 12 Aug 97 11:47 PDT Received: from [143.227.36.154] by quando.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:53:13 -0700 X-Sender: noahi@mail.quando.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <763.9708121842@xena> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:46:59 -0700 To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk From: Noah Iliinsky Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] limit on number of users Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 7:42 PM +0100 8/12/97, cmt20@xena.tees.ac.uk wrote: >> Howdy. >> >> We've just increased the number of people using Netatalk, and now we're getting errors saying that no more can be logged on. Is this limit user definable? I don't remember seeing it in the docs. >> > >start afpd with the -u option >later >jb Actually, I just found what I was looking for in the man page (please feel free to flog me later). It's the -c (max connections) option. -u makes afpd read the users AppleVolumes file first. Thaks, Noah -- Noah Iliinsky noahi@quando.com Webmaster (503) 225-1988 vox Quando, Inc. (503) 225-1987 fax From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 12 18:11:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id SAA16163; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:11:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA16159; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA10772; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA10769 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA10678 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:11:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from air.steve.net (slip166-72-201-184.vt.us.ibm.net [166.72.201.184]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA98872; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 22:11:07 GMT Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:15:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven N. Hirsch" X-Sender: hirsch@air.steve.net To: Bill Studenmund cc: Ben Burch , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] 2-way encrypted passwords? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, Bill Studenmund wrote: > On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, Ben Burch wrote: > > > Hello, folks! > > > > Okay... I am uncomfortable with the fact that passwords in netatalk are > > being sent "clear". Short of Kerberos, which I know is in some > > non-completed state, is there a patch to use the same password encryption > > scheme Appleshare itself uses? If not, is there some documentation on > > how this scheme works so that I could implement said patch myself? > > The problem is that the Apple two-way encrypted technique requires the > plain-text password be kept on the server. Other than that, it souldn't be > too hard. IA, 2nd edition describes the encryption technique. > All, Never fear, gents. I've had this working for months, and have finally found time to clean up and comment the patches. They cover: 1) One man's implementation of the "Randnum exchange" UAM. Yes, it does require that a clear-text password reside on disk at the server. However, it does _not_ have to be the same as any/all other passwords that might be owned by the user. I think it's reasonably secure, but would love feedback. 2) Support for the Apple IIe (w/ Apple Workstation card) and Apple IIgs (built-in LocalTalk port). 3) Real Soon Now: Support for PC/Win clients (I just have to sit down and code the name munging logic). I'll post the diffs here later this evening after giving them another once-over. It will be necessary to grab a library supporting DES encrypt and decrypt operations. I downloaded 'libdes' from a site in Australia, but it is not legal for DES code to travel in the other direction - go figure. Stay tuned. Steve From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 12 21:34:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id VAA19490; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 21:34:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id VAA19485; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 21:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA18217; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 21:34:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA18215 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 21:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA18204 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 21:34:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from air.steve.net (slip166-72-201-167.vt.us.ibm.net [166.72.201.167]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA142182 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 01:33:28 GMT Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 21:37:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven N. Hirsch" X-Sender: hirsch@air.steve.net To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] As promised.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu All, Here's a first cut at adding "Scrambled" UAM (aka random number exchange), and Apple 2 ProDOS support to netatalk. Some parts could be a bit more elegant, but this list wasn't up when I did the work so I was sort of in a vacuum. Feel free to have at it (or me, for that matter). I've been using this with my little network: - Mac SE/30 w/ ethertalk board. - Kinetics FastPath 4 local/ethertalk bridge - Apple IIe w/ Apple Workstation card (ProDOS-8) - Apple IIgs w/ built-in LocalTalk (GS/OS) - 6x86 P150+ running Linux 2.0.30 and/or 2.1.42 Everything's been _real_ stable for months, and it's a gas to be able to use the network storage from the A2s! 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(192.168.1.200) by donkey.outsmart.net with SMTP; 13 Aug 1997 05:52:06 -0000 X-Sender: john@donkey.oaty.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 22:52:04 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: John Grant Subject: [netatalk-admins] Preferred method of accessing from PPP ? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu What's the preferred method for allowing PPP access to appletalk services via netatalk ? I see that it is not directly supported. The most likely candidate looks like ARNS with atppp, but it's all a bit CAP and looks like it just creates a router, it makes no mention about a local server. If I want the (Solaris) machine to be a netatalk server *and* allow PPP dial-in supporting TCP/IP and appletalk what's the approach ? The response that netatalk/tcp is *really* just around the corner and all this can be forgotten before the end of September is an acceptable solution, if anyone cares to make it. --- John From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 13 04:32:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id EAA03401; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 04:32:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA03397; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 04:32:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA13169; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 04:32:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA13167 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 04:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de (dx4.pingnet.de [194.148.12.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA13162 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 04:32:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) id KAA27103; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:32:08 +0200 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:32:04 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Zones w/o routing? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, > I am the only AppleTalk router on my segment. There is no conflict > here ... but I can't seem to get my atalkd to advertise zones as it > only has the one network interface. Do I need to use a fake second > interface (dummy or perhaps a loopbacked ethernet interface) in the > machine to get atalkd to act as a router?? I use dummy.o do get it to do what I want (seems to work only with Phase 2). Perhaps you need to patch dummy.c accordingly to http://www.math.umn.edu/~bradford/ltpc.html. :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 13 04:56:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id EAA17443; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 04:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id EAA17438; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 04:56:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA14579; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 04:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA14577 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 04:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dns.net.au (hakea.cs.ntu.edu.au [138.80.116.6]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id EAA14571 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 04:56:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13430 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1997 09:08:25 -0000 Received: from jagger.dns.net.au (192.168.1.2) by clapton.dns.net.au with SMTP; 13 Aug 1997 09:08:25 -0000 Message-ID: <33F17675.6359@it.ntu.edu.au> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 18:25:17 +0930 From: Dave Schroeder Reply-To: djsc@it.ntu.edu.au Organization: Dartwin Network Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Timeout Errors Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I am running Netatalk on a Linux box to service the Macs on a small network and everything seems fine except for a lot of timed out errors. eg: Aug 11 09:46:45 marx afpd[9456]: afp_write: asp_wrtcont: Connection timed out Aug 11 09:52:09 marx afpd[9456]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Connection timed out Aug 11 09:53:00 marx afpd[9506]: afp_write: asp_wrtcont: Connection timed out Aug 11 10:28:39 marx afpd[8965]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Connection timed out Mostly the messages are of the afp_die variety above. Does anyone have an idea as to whats going wrong. Omly a couple of machines are having this problem, and the users have to trash the netatalk mounted volume and log on again. Thanks in advance. -- David Schroeder Darwin Network Services Ph/Fax (08) 8932 1156 PO Box 82383 (Int) +61 8 8932 1156 Casuarina N.T Australia 0811 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 13 09:53:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA22858; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 09:53:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA22854; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 09:53:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA03389; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 09:53:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA03383 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 09:53:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.dom.de (mail.dom.de [194.77.86.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA03346 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 09:53:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vom.dom (vom.dom.de [194.77.86.80]) by mail.dom.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20543 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:53:13 +0200 Message-Id: <199708131353.PAA20543@mail.dom.de> From: "Markus" To: Subject: [netatalk-admins] how to configure papd for printing into a shell script? Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:53:38 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu hi, we have some macs and some pcs using one unix machine as a file server. the unix box has samba and atalk running. now i want the macs to print on the printers connected to the windows boxes. from samba docs i grabbed a nice little script that uses a windows printer to print out everything piped into the script. how can i configure papd to call that script instead of checking in /etc/printcap? markus From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 13 10:39:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA24954; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:39:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA24929; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:38:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA20663; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:39:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA20657 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:39:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cc00mh.unity.ncsu.edu (cc00mh.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.1.172]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA20644 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:39:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [152.1.11.13] (ivanova.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.11.13]) by cc00mh.unity.ncsu.edu (8.8.4/US19Dec96) with ESMTP id KAA01759 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:38:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: user@hesiod Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:38:46 -0400 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Everette G Allen Subject: [netatalk-admins] Two questions about 1.4.x with asun... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu 1) Does anyone know where the bzero and bcopy symbols used in aecho.o should be defined?? I am apparently missing another lib or header. I am compiling with gcc on Sun4m sparc running SunOS 5.4 (Solaris 2.5?) 2) I noticed in the sysv install there seems to be support for PAM modules... Is this the case or am I missing it?? If so then is it really working so we could add other modules? Everette Gray Allen Consultant IV Box 7109 NCState Campus Computing Services Raleigh, NC 27695-7109 919-515-2517 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 13 11:36:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA27528; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:36:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA27524; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:36:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA16609; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:36:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA16600 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zeus-rcg.univ-rennes1.fr (root@zeus-rcg.univ-rennes1.fr [192.93.247.165]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA16591 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:36:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from univ-rennes1.fr (nicolas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zeus-rcg.univ-rennes1.fr (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA27313; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 17:34:34 +0200 Message-ID: <33F1D40A.4D811841@univ-rennes1.fr> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 17:34:34 +0200 From: Nicolas Soriano Reply-To: nicolas.soriano@univ-rennes1.fr Organization: CNRS - UPR41 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02b7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Markus , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] how to configure papd for printing into a shell script? References: <199708131353.PAA20543@mail.dom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Markus wrote: > we have some macs and some pcs using one unix machine as a file > server. the unix box has samba and atalk running. I have the same kind of configuration, King Linux amongst poor windoz and mac boxes. > now i want the macs to print on the printers connected to the windows > boxes. That's what I did too. (and PCs printing on mac printers) > from samba docs i grabbed a nice little script that uses a windows > printer to print out everything piped into the script. You must be talking of smbprint ? > how can i configure papd to call that script instead of checking in > /etc/printcap? Well, I'm using printcap ;-) declaration of a PC printer in printcap : smb:lp=/dev/null:sd=/usr/spool/lpd/smb:\ :sh:if=/usr/local/samba/bin/smbfilter:\ :af=/usr/spool/lpd/smb/acct: You must have a file /usr/spool/lpd/smb/.config containing server=Name_of_sharing_PC service=name_of_printer password=password the PC printer is reachable from the U*x box. Now you can share it with netatalk first, declare it in /etc/papd.conf : Deskjet500@MY ZONE:\ :pr=smb:op=root:\ :pd=/usr/share/lib/ppd/deskjet.ppd: and use a filter-script to convert the postscript (sent by mac) to the language of your PC printer (that's the smbfilter declared in printcap). You can find one in an article I wrote (it's in french but the script is international) it works with an HP Deskjet http://zeus-rcg.univ-rennes1.fr/winatalk.html#4 If your PC printer is postscript, the script can be very simple. but if one day you want to print a raw textfile from your U*x box to this printer, it would be better to have a complete filter script ;-) > markus --- Nicolas.Soriano@univ-rennes1.fr _____________________________________________________________________ Plus ça rate, plus on a des chances que ça marche... -Shadok- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 13 11:38:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA27706; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:38:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA27697; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:38:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA11281; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA11258 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:38:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA11237 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:38:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA05550; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (bioserver.bio.mtu.edu [141.219.40.72]) by mtu.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA04283; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:38:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (bioserver.bio.mtu.edu [141.219.40.72]) by bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (8.6.13/MTU-R1.9) with SMTP id LAA24459; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:38:58 -0400 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:38:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@bioserver.bio.mtu.edu To: Everette G Allen cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Two questions about 1.4.x with asun... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > 1) Does anyone know where the bzero and bcopy symbols used in aecho.o > should be defined?? I am apparently missing another lib or header. I am > compiling with gcc on Sun4m sparc running SunOS 5.4 (Solaris 2.5?) SunOS 5.4 is Solaris 2.4. bzero/bcopy are both in libc as of 2.5 (and beyond, I think). Before 2.5, bzero/bcopy are in the BSD compatibility libraries, zo I dink you gots to compile with -lbsd. - edan -- Edan Idzerda System Administrator -- Michigan Technological University, Houghton MI USA From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 13 11:48:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA28465; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:48:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from goon.stg.brown.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA28458; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:48:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from richard@localhost) by goon.stg.brown.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA17620 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:48:15 -0400 From: "Richard L. Goerwitz III" Message-Id: <199708131548.LAA17620@goon.stg.brown.edu> Subject: [netatalk-admins] secure AFP To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:48:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Face: #,bgOf7[Z5["^1[?.)k?^vYpV4**Cxrg2'At1vp{+k$#Q-}p?y`'4x8*SscV,hjGeIU&0+& e}eRQL/rR'|@y|r[l2?Z#KJ$h-u$vgK6j X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is anyone out there using netatalk successfully with Kerberos, or with anything that provides effective password security and/or en- cryption? Richard G. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 13 13:06:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA02058; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:06:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA02054; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:06:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA18708; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:06:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA18700 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:06:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (tqydPHQ0nfYC5wDcxPWkErXSAe50Xvkz@zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA18691 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:06:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22382; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:05:03 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA05610; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708131706.KAA05610@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: Everette_Allen@ncsu.edu CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from Everette G Allen on Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:38:46 -0400) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Two questions about 1.4.x with asun... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu 2) I noticed in the sysv install there seems to be support for PAM modules... Is this the case or am I missing it?? If so then is it really working so we could add other modules? a number of people have been reporting problems due to them NOT realizing that PAM support gets compiled in by default for linux machines. from what i understand, solaris won't expose the interface until 2.6. if, for some reason, you can use them, you just need to add -DUSE_PAM and -lpam -ldl to your Makefile. make sure to add the appropriate entries to either pam.conf or /etc/pam.d/netatalk. it works pretty well for me. fyi, the sample config in the config directory doesn't specify a password changing module. if you want to add that capability in, you'll need to add a passwd module as well. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 13 13:24:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA03223; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:24:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ripstick.engin.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA03208; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:24:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by ripstick.engin.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with X.500 id NAA17564; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:24:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by ripstick.engin.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with X.500 id NAA17562 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:24:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (wagnerer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ripstick.engin.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA17549; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:23:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:23:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric C Wagner X-Sender: wagnerer@ripstick.engin.umich.edu Reply-To: Eric C Wagner To: John Grant cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Preferred method of accessing from PPP ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Actually netatalk/tcp is not just around the corner, its already here. I've been using asun's patches on two computers for about two weeks now. Both computers are accessable through a normal PPP connection. Just make sure you have the new appleshare client. /*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\* Eric Wagner Phone : 313-647-5525 1962 Cooley Building Fax : 313-763-4540 University of Michigan E-Mail: wagnerer@umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48109 WWW : http://www.umich.edu/~wagnerer Quote of the day: The most important thing in the programming language is the name. A language will not succeed without a good name. I have recently invented a very good name and now I am looking for a suitable language. -----D. E. Knuth, 1967 On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, John Grant wrote: > What's the preferred method for allowing PPP access to appletalk services > via netatalk ? I see that it is not directly supported. > > The most likely candidate looks like ARNS with atppp, but it's all a bit > CAP and looks like it just creates a router, it makes no mention about a > local server. If I want the (Solaris) machine to be a netatalk server *and* > allow PPP dial-in supporting TCP/IP and appletalk what's the approach ? > > The response that netatalk/tcp is *really* just around the corner and all > this can be forgotten before the end of September is an acceptable > solution, if anyone cares to make it. > > --- > > John > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 13 13:45:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA04364; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:45:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA04358; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:45:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA26499; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:45:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA26467 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:45:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zombywoof.usra.edu (1Cust28.max2.washington.dc.ms.uu.net [153.34.49.156]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA26379; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:44:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from usra.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zombywoof.usra.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id NAA03078; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:42:45 -0400 Message-ID: <33F1F214.B7025216@usra.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:42:44 -0400 From: Carl Beaudry Reply-To: cbeaudry@usra.edu Organization: Universities Space Research Association X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02b7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu CC: Eric C Wagner Subject: [netatalk-admins] Apleshare IP and netatalk where exactly? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Eric C Wagner wrote: > Actually netatalk/tcp is not just around the corner, its already here. > I've been using asun's patches on two computers for about two weeks > now. Ok, I'll ask the dumb but necessary question: *Where* *exactly* are those patches? So far I've followed two purported URLS which led to the "miscellaneous patches" pages at U.M., (one posted on this list and the other on Macintouch) and found nothing that even *looked* like Appleshare/TCP patches for netatalk, (though I did scrounge up some for CAP). So if you could please please please point me (and anyone else who is curious and baffled as I am) to the site of those patches, using shiny, red, boldfaced and droolproof letters, I'd be most appreciative. --Carl (wondering if I'm the only one who couldn't see these things) From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 13 13:59:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA05042; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:59:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA05037; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:59:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA01759; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:59:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA01739 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:59:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA01724; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:59:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22717; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:58:07 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA05731; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708131759.KAA05731@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: cbeaudry@usra.edu CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, wagnerer@umich.edu In-reply-to: <33F1F214.B7025216@usra.edu> (message from Carl Beaudry on Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:42:44 -0400) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Apleshare IP and netatalk where exactly? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Ok, I'll ask the dumb but necessary question: *Where* *exactly* are those patches? okay, i'll respond. So far I've followed two purported URLS which led to the "miscellaneous patches" pages at U.M., (one posted on this list and the other on Macintouch) and found nothing that even *looked* like Appleshare/TCP patches for netatalk, (though I did scrounge up some for CAP). if you look at the other patches url (), you should notice something called "afp/tcp patches to 1.4b2." they point to the ftp site () where i house my patches. is that good enough? the a14 patches are the latest. they correct a long-standing netatalk bug w/ icons, so you might want to delete the contents of your .AppleDesktop directory. you might crash your client machine if you don't. you should only see this problem manifest in my patches because i don't limit the sizes of icons that i send to the client. 1.4b2 does impose an implicit limit. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 13 14:06:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA05597; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 14:06:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA05589; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 14:06:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA12626; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 14:06:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA12622 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 14:06:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beezer.med.miami.edu (root@beezer.med.miami.edu [129.171.143.105]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA12612 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 14:06:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beezer.med.miami.edu ([129.171.143.105]) by beezer.med.miami.edu with smtp (ident chris using rfc1413) id (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Wed, 13 Aug 1997 14:03:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 14:03:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher C. Chimelis" X-Sender: chris@beezer.med.miami.edu To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Apleshare IP and netatalk where exactly? In-Reply-To: <33F1F214.B7025216@usra.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, Carl Beaudry wrote: > Ok, I'll ask the dumb but necessary question: *Where* *exactly* are > those patches? > So far I've followed two purported URLS which led to the "miscellaneous > patches" pages at U.M., (one posted on this list and the other on > Macintouch) and found nothing that even *looked* like Appleshare/TCP > patches for netatalk, (though I did scrounge up some for CAP). > So if you could please please please point me (and anyone else who is > curious and baffled as I am) to the site of those patches, using shiny, > red, boldfaced and droolproof letters, I'd be most appreciative. The patched version of netatalk is at: ftp.u.washington.edu:/public/asun The latest version on there should also work nicely with MacOS8...or so I've heard (don't have OS8 in yet). Also, I initially asked the same question, since the patches aren't really all that easy to locate (ie, not pointed to with URL links from anywhere for the WWW-oriented users). I was just wondering, if someone was willing to write a web page or two regarding the TCP-enabled netatalk package, I would be willing to host the pages. I don't have cavernous amounts of disk space, but I definitely have enough to host the distribution of the package until such time as the patches are incorporated into the mainstream netatalk distribution. I also have ftp space available should that be needed also. Let me know please as I think that TCP support is something that seems to be more and more in demand lately. FYI, I have tested the TCP-enabled netatalk and it worked great for me, but since I didn't really need the extra features, I reverted back to the original netatalk v1.4b. Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------ Christopher C. Chimelis chris@classnet.med.miami.edu Systems Supervisor Division of Biomedical Communications University of Miami School of Medicine --> finger chris@classnet.med.miami.edu for PGP public key <-- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 13 15:42:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA11854; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:42:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA11844; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:42:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA19093; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:42:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA19083 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:42:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from donkey.outsmart.net (donkey.outsmart.net [207.213.214.74]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id PAA19068 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:42:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 12876 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1997 19:42:04 -0000 Received: from wilbur.oaty.com (HELO ?192.168.1.200?) (192.168.1.200) by donkey.outsmart.net with SMTP; 13 Aug 1997 19:42:04 -0000 X-Sender: john@donkey.oaty.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199708131759.KAA05731@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> References: <33F1F214.B7025216@usra.edu> (message from Carl Beaudry on Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:42:44 -0400) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 12:42:01 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: John Grant Subject: [netatalk-admins] Appleshare IP and netatalk buggy? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >ftp site () where i house my >patches. is that good enough? As I suspected, the Solaris part is described as buggy (at least in the STREAMS module). Before I embark on a long wasted installation - is there anyone out there running Solaris who has built this *and* kept it installed ? If not - anybody care to guess when it will be in good enough shape ? My criteria for looking at installation: - remote PPP connectivity, pref. without adding extra routers etc. - not thrilled with current appletalk performance, esp on directory searches Future dream: - aliases (fileIDs) that are actually useful ! --- John From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 13 20:00:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id UAA18235; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 20:00:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA18231; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 20:00:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA29745; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 20:00:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA29740 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 20:00:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (46aop/qxqdaEqHsPBnpz6fVtSEPhcAOU@zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA29735 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 20:00:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24839 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 17:00:23 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA06475; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 17:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 17:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708140000.RAA06475@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] pre-a15 patches to 1.4b2 available Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu just thought people should know that i've made a pre-a15 diff available. it does two things: 1) improves re-configurations via kill -HUP 2) removes a bunch of afpd exit()'s and returns AFPERR_MISC instead. that should make temporary memory problems less fatal. as i've never run into this situation, i'm not sure what will really happen. -a (for adrian) From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 13 20:01:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id UAA18277; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 20:01:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA18267; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 20:01:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA18922; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 20:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA18920 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 20:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA18916 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 20:01:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24848 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 17:01:17 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA06479; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 17:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 17:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708140001.RAA06479@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] a15 location Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu oops. in case you don't know already, pre-a15.diff.gz is at ftp.u.washington.edu:public/asun. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 14 00:52:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id AAA29784; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 00:52:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id AAA29771; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 00:52:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA07759; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 00:52:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA07753 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 00:52:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from onshore.com (onShore.com [206.69.88.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id AAA07746; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 00:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [206.69.90.21] (tofu.onshore.com [206.69.90.21]) by onshore.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA19135; Wed, 13 Aug 1997 23:52:50 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 23:14:19 -0500 To: Eric C Wagner , John Grant From: Stelios Valavanis Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Preferred method of accessing from PPP ? Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, mac@ONSHORE.COM, unix@ONSHORE.COM Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu is IP printing supported in netatalkIP? on appleshare servers, i believe the print server now allows IP connections to it but they still go out as appletalk. i'm sure linux could print any damn way it wants. man, i think we need to install netatalkIP on our own lan now. At 1:23 PM -0400 8/13/97, Eric C Wagner wrote: >Actually netatalk/tcp is not just around the corner, its already here. >I've been using asun's patches on two computers for about two weeks now. >Both computers are accessable through a normal PPP connection. Just make >sure you have the new appleshare client. > >/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\ >* >Eric Wagner Phone : 313-647-5525 >1962 Cooley Building Fax : 313-763-4540 >University of Michigan E-Mail: wagnerer@umich.edu >Ann Arbor, MI 48109 WWW : >http://www.umich.edu/~wagnerer > >Quote of the day: The most important thing in the programming language is >the > name. A language will not succeed without a good name. I > have recently invented a very good name and now I am >looking > for a suitable language. > -----D. E. Knuth, 1967 >On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, John Grant wrote: > >> What's the preferred method for allowing PPP access to appletalk services >> via netatalk ? I see that it is not directly supported. >> >> The most likely candidate looks like ARNS with atppp, but it's all a bit >> CAP and looks like it just creates a router, it makes no mention about a >> local server. If I want the (Solaris) machine to be a netatalk server *and* >> allow PPP dial-in supporting TCP/IP and appletalk what's the approach ? >> >> The response that netatalk/tcp is *really* just around the corner and all >> this can be forgotten before the end of September is an acceptable >> solution, if anyone cares to make it. >> >> --- >> >> John >> >> >> _________________________________________________________ stel valavanis mailto:stel@onShore.com http://www.onShore.com/ From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 14 15:31:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA28096; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 15:31:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ripstick.engin.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA28092; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 15:31:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by ripstick.engin.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with X.500 id PAA05822; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 15:31:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by ripstick.engin.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with X.500 id PAA05820 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 15:31:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (wagnerer@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ripstick.engin.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA05814; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 15:31:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 15:31:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric C Wagner X-Sender: wagnerer@ripstick.engin.umich.edu To: Stelios Valavanis cc: John Grant , netatalk-admins@umich.edu, mac@ONSHORE.COM, unix@ONSHORE.COM Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Preferred method of accessing from PPP ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu As far as I know a sun's patches only modify the apple share section of the package to enable IP. I didn't realize any of the printing clients had IP capablities but I would think that most unix machines would support IP printing even if natalk wasn't installed. /*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\* Quote of the day: UNNAMED LAW: If it happens, it must be possible. On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, Stelios Valavanis wrote: > is IP printing supported in netatalkIP? on appleshare servers, i believe > the print server now allows IP connections to it but they still go out as > appletalk. i'm sure linux could print any damn way it wants. man, i think > we need to install netatalkIP on our own lan now. > > At 1:23 PM -0400 8/13/97, Eric C Wagner wrote: > >Actually netatalk/tcp is not just around the corner, its already here. > >I've been using asun's patches on two computers for about two weeks now. > >Both computers are accessable through a normal PPP connection. Just make > >sure you have the new appleshare client. > > > >/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\ > >* > >Eric Wagner Phone : 313-647-5525 > >1962 Cooley Building Fax : 313-763-4540 > >University of Michigan E-Mail: wagnerer@umich.edu > >Ann Arbor, MI 48109 WWW : > >http://www.umich.edu/~wagnerer > > > >Quote of the day: The most important thing in the programming language is > >the > > name. A language will not succeed without a good name. I > > have recently invented a very good name and now I am > >looking > > for a suitable language. > > -----D. E. Knuth, 1967 > >On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, John Grant wrote: > > > >> What's the preferred method for allowing PPP access to appletalk services > >> via netatalk ? I see that it is not directly supported. > >> > >> The most likely candidate looks like ARNS with atppp, but it's all a bit > >> CAP and looks like it just creates a router, it makes no mention about a > >> local server. If I want the (Solaris) machine to be a netatalk server *and* > >> allow PPP dial-in supporting TCP/IP and appletalk what's the approach ? > >> > >> The response that netatalk/tcp is *really* just around the corner and all > >> this can be forgotten before the end of September is an acceptable > >> solution, if anyone cares to make it. > >> > >> --- > >> > >> John > >> > >> > >> > > > _________________________________________________________ > stel valavanis mailto:stel@onShore.com http://www.onShore.com/ > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 14 16:41:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id QAA00600; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA00580; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA17616; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA17614 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from onshore.com (root@onShore.com [206.69.88.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA17607; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:41:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [206.69.90.21] (tofu.onshore.com [206.69.90.21]) by onshore.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA03264; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 15:40:21 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 15:10:33 -0500 To: Eric C Wagner From: Stelios Valavanis Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Preferred method of accessing from PPP ? Cc: John Grant , netatalk-admins@umich.edu, mac@ONSHORE.COM, unix@ONSHORE.COM Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu yeah but this is not lpr/lpd. i'll look into it more and get back to the list. i have a mac here with it set up i can test with. At 3:31 PM -0400 8/14/97, Eric C Wagner wrote: >As far as I know a sun's patches only modify the apple share section of >the package to enable IP. I didn't realize any of the printing clients had >IP capablities but I would think that most unix machines would support IP >printing even if natalk wasn't installed. > >/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\ >* > >Quote of the day: UNNAMED LAW: If it happens, it must be possible. >On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, Stelios Valavanis wrote: > >> is IP printing supported in netatalkIP? on appleshare servers, i believe >> the print server now allows IP connections to it but they still go out as >> appletalk. i'm sure linux could print any damn way it wants. man, i think >> we need to install netatalkIP on our own lan now. >> >> At 1:23 PM -0400 8/13/97, Eric C Wagner wrote: >> >Actually netatalk/tcp is not just around the corner, its already here. >> >I've been using asun's patches on two computers for about two weeks now. >> >Both computers are accessable through a normal PPP connection. Just make >> >sure you have the new appleshare client. >> > >> >>>/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\*/*\ >> >* >> >Eric Wagner Phone : 313-647-5525 >> >1962 Cooley Building Fax : 313-763-4540 >> >University of Michigan E-Mail: wagnerer@umich.edu >> >Ann Arbor, MI 48109 WWW : >> >http://www.umich.edu/~wagnerer >> > >> >Quote of the day: The most important thing in the programming language is >> >the >> > name. A language will not succeed without a good >>name. I >> > have recently invented a very good name and now I am >> >looking >> > for a suitable language. >> > -----D. E. Knuth, 1967 >> >On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, John Grant wrote: >> > >> >> What's the preferred method for allowing PPP access to appletalk services >> >> via netatalk ? I see that it is not directly supported. >> >> >> >> The most likely candidate looks like ARNS with atppp, but it's all a bit >> >> CAP and looks like it just creates a router, it makes no mention about a >> >> local server. If I want the (Solaris) machine to be a netatalk server >>*and* >> >> allow PPP dial-in supporting TCP/IP and appletalk what's the approach ? >> >> >> >> The response that netatalk/tcp is *really* just around the corner and all >> >> this can be forgotten before the end of September is an acceptable >> >> solution, if anyone cares to make it. >> >> >> >> --- >> >> >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> stel valavanis mailto:stel@onShore.com http://www.onShore.com/ >> >> >> _________________________________________________________ stel valavanis mailto:stel@onShore.com http://www.onShore.com/ From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 14 16:58:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id QAA01115; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:58:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA01111; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:57:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA20495; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:58:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA20493 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:58:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA20488; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:58:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29596; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 13:57:51 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA07354; Thu, 14 Aug 1997 13:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 13:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708142057.NAA07354@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: stel@ONSHORE.COM CC: wagnerer@umich.edu, jgrant@outsmart.net, netatalk-admins@umich.edu, mac@ONSHORE.COM, unix@ONSHORE.COM In-reply-to: (message from Stelios Valavanis on Thu, 14 Aug 1997 15:10:33 -0500) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Preferred method of accessing from PPP ? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu re: printing services, here's what's currently available w/ netatalk and your typical mac: (unix) lpr -> pap -> appletalk printer (mac) laserwriter 8 -> papd -> lpd -> printer to see printers across a ppp line, you'll need to either tunnel ddp in ip or get a ppp which supports appletalk. i'm under the impression that apple's soon-to-be-released laserwriter 8.5 will allow printing over tcp/ip via lpd. with the appropriate setup, then, you should either be able to directly print to an ethernetted printer that supports lpd or via a pap spooler if it doesn't. does that clear up things? -a (is for adrian) From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 15 13:14:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id NAA13055; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:14:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA13050; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:14:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA11578; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:14:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA11569 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:13:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iglou1 (exim@iglou1.iglou.com [192.107.41.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id NAA11555; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:13:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mfreeman by iglou1 with smtp (8.7.3/8.6.12) id 0wzPwW-0002n4-00; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:13:44 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:13:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael M. Freeman" X-Sender: mfreeman@iglou1 Reply-To: "Michael M. Freeman" To: a sun cc: stel@ONSHORE.COM, wagnerer@umich.edu, jgrant@outsmart.net, netatalk-admins@umich.edu, mac@ONSHORE.COM, unix@ONSHORE.COM Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Preferred method of accessing from PPP ? In-Reply-To: <199708142057.NAA07354@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, a sun wrote: > > re: printing services, here's what's currently available w/ netatalk > and your typical mac: > > (unix) lpr -> pap -> appletalk printer > (mac) laserwriter 8 -> papd -> lpd -> printer > > to see printers across a ppp line, you'll need to either tunnel ddp in > ip or get a ppp which supports appletalk. i'm under the impression > that apple's soon-to-be-released laserwriter 8.5 will allow printing > over tcp/ip via lpd. Laserwriter 8.5 does support IP (LPR/LP ???) printing (check Apple's WWW site for the Laserwriter 8500 annoucement). Regards Mike From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 15 23:28:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id XAA26231; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 23:28:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id XAA26226; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 23:28:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA24957; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 23:28:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA24955 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 23:28:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zAJyEy2pyCIKMB8+94kRdyfLAQlafJh2@zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA24922; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 23:28:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04325; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 20:28:20 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA09462; Fri, 15 Aug 1997 20:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 20:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708160328.UAA09462@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, netatalk@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] more on my tcp/ip patches (pre-a15) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu i have a pre-a15 available at ftp.u.washington.edu:/public/asun. it should have an easier time building under solaris w/ solaris' cc. in addition, apple's appleshare 5.0.2seed2 client doesn't do a getservparams when double clicking on an alias. as afpd only loaded volumes during getservparams, aliases became useless. this patch also fixes that. if i don't get any negative reports, i'll probably un-pre-it when i get back next week. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 18 14:30:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA02824; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 14:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA02814; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 14:30:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA26095; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 14:30:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA26087 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 14:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from usceast.cs.sc.edu (usceast.cs.sc.edu [129.252.11.9]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id OAA26057 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 14:30:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [129.252.42.121] (palmetto.csd.sc.edu [129.252.42.121]) by usceast.cs.sc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA03940 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 14:30:02 -0400 X-Sender: riser@usceast.cs.sc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 14:30:27 -0400 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Reggie Riser Subject: [netatalk-admins] Server disappearing from Chooser Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi: I've had a recurring problem where my netatalk server disappears from the Chooser a few days after startup. The server is a Pentium 90 running RedHat 4.2 (kernel 2.0.30) and netatalk 1.4b2. I had the same problem with earlier versions of RedHat and netatalk. Rebooting the machine will make the server reappear in the Chooser, only to disappear a few days later. Here is the relevant part of /var/log/messages just before the server disappears... Aug 18 09:59:58 earwig atalkd[220]: zip gnireply from 4201.252 (eth0 b2) Aug 18 09:59:58 earwig atalkd[220]: zip ignoring gnireply Aug 18 09:59:58 earwig atalkd[220]: zip gnireply from 4201.140 (eth0 b2) Aug 18 09:59:58 earwig atalkd[220]: zip ignoring gnireply Aug 18 10:04:56 earwig atalkd[220]: zip gnireply from 4201.252 (eth0 b2) Aug 18 10:04:56 earwig atalkd[220]: zip ignoring gnireply Aug 18 10:04:56 earwig atalkd[220]: zip gnireply from 4201.140 (eth0 b2) Aug 18 10:04:56 earwig atalkd[220]: zip ignoring gnireply Aug 18 13:30:19 earwig atalkd[220]: as_timer gateway 4201.252 down Aug 18 13:30:29 earwig atalkd[220]: as_timer gateway 4201.140 down Aug 18 13:30:59 earwig atalkd[220]: as_timer gateway 4201.140 down Aug 18 13:30:59 earwig atalkd[220]: as_timer last gateway down Any idea what the problem may be? - Reggie ----- Reggie Riser University of South Carolina Computer Services reggie.riser@sc.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 18 15:09:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA04538; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 15:09:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA04533; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 15:09:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA17992; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 15:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA17980 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 15:09:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frederick.itri.loyola.edu (mstone@frederick.itri.loyola.edu [144.126.176.46]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA17965 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 15:09:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mstone@localhost) by frederick.itri.loyola.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA00255; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 15:08:58 -0400 Message-ID: <19970818150858.38754@frederick.itri.loyola.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 15:08:58 -0400 From: Michael Stone To: Reggie Riser Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Server disappearing from Chooser References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: ; from Reggie Riser on Mon, Aug 18, 1997 at 02:30:27PM -0400 X-Pgp-Fingerprint: 53 FF 38 00 E7 DD 0A 9C 84 52 84 C5 EE DF 7C 88 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Quoting Reggie Riser (reggie.riser@sc.edu): > I've had a recurring problem where my netatalk server disappears from the > Chooser a few days after startup. The server is a Pentium 90 running > RedHat 4.2 (kernel 2.0.30) and netatalk 1.4b2. I had the same problem with > earlier versions of RedHat and netatalk. Rebooting the machine will make > the server reappear in the Chooser, only to disappear a few days later. I've had exactly the same problem for a year now. No one has ever had a good explanation for why it happens. I don't necessarily have to reboot (it will usually come back if I restart netatalk) and even more strange, it will sometimes come back itself after a few hours or days or weeks... There doesn't seem to be any pattern to the disappearances. The only notable thing is that I've got two machines that exhibit this behavior, Cyrix P166+ and a dx/2 66, both running linux, but the cyrix is much more stable--the 486 rarely stays connected more than a few days, whereas the Cyrix will usually go a few weeks. > Aug 18 09:59:58 earwig atalkd[220]: zip gnireply from 4201.252 (eth0 b2) > Aug 18 09:59:58 earwig atalkd[220]: zip ignoring gnireply > Aug 18 09:59:58 earwig atalkd[220]: zip gnireply from 4201.140 (eth0 b2) > Aug 18 09:59:58 earwig atalkd[220]: zip ignoring gnireply > Aug 18 10:04:56 earwig atalkd[220]: zip gnireply from 4201.252 (eth0 b2) > Aug 18 10:04:56 earwig atalkd[220]: zip ignoring gnireply > Aug 18 10:04:56 earwig atalkd[220]: zip gnireply from 4201.140 (eth0 b2) > Aug 18 10:04:56 earwig atalkd[220]: zip ignoring gnireply > Aug 18 13:30:19 earwig atalkd[220]: as_timer gateway 4201.252 down > Aug 18 13:30:29 earwig atalkd[220]: as_timer gateway 4201.140 down > Aug 18 13:30:59 earwig atalkd[220]: as_timer gateway 4201.140 down > Aug 18 13:30:59 earwig atalkd[220]: as_timer last gateway down Yup, that's basically what I get. I'm not sure that the "ignoring gnireply" is really the culprit though, because it often appears without the atalkd going down. Also, take a look at this log, which combines both of the machines I referred to above: Aug 7 08:37:24 P166 atalkd[1531]: zip gnireply from 13.22 (eth0 b2) Aug 7 08:37:24 P166 atalkd[1531]: zip ignoring gnireply Aug 7 08:37:24 486 atalkd[9284]: zip gnireply from 13.22 (eth0 b2) Aug 7 08:37:24 486 atalkd[9284]: zip ignoring gnireply Aug 7 09:57:15 486 atalkd[9284]: as_timer gateway 13.22 down Aug 7 09:57:45 486 atalkd[9284]: as_timer gateway 13.22 down Aug 7 09:57:45 486 atalkd[9284]: as_timer last gateway down Note that both machines received and ignored the gnireply, but only the 486 went down, and not for another 1:20. It is interesting that yours also went down about 1:20 after the previous log entry. Might be significant, but probably a fluke. The nbplkup output following the "last gateway down" also gets a little strange. For instance, it now shows a NetQue printer that's on the local net, and an PowerMac that I can't identify off hand. It doesn't show itself, or the other linux box, or any other macs on the subnet. It's all pretty strange. I've pretty much given up on finding an answer and just work around it as best I can (both machines are nfs cross linked, and all the services are available on either one, so as long as one is up, the data is accessible.) If anyone has any new ideas, I'd love to hear them. -- Michael Stone, Sysadmin, ITRI PGP: key 1024/76556F95 from mit keyserver, mstone@itri.loyola.edu finger, or email with "Subject: get pgp key" From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 18 17:23:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id RAA08850; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 17:23:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA08844; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 17:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA06689; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 17:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA06686 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 17:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.saratoga.award.com (root@www.saratoga.award.com [38.168.77.15]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA06682 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 17:23:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [38.168.77.72] (hugo.saratoga.award.com [38.168.77.72]) by www.saratoga.award.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA12058 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 14:54:23 -0700 Message-Id: <199708182154.OAA12058@www.saratoga.award.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems with netatalk1.4b2+asun2.0a14 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 97 14:26:52 -0700 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Jay To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu First, I've got to state that asun's patches to netatalk 1.4b2 are great! He's managed to cure *most* of my problems with netatalk 1.4b2 and Mac OS 8. Unfortunately, there appears to be one final lingering problem. The problem occurs when copying files from the netatalk volume to a native Mac HFS volume. When the copy encounters a file that uses the default AppleVolumes.* file mapping, the copy stops, complaining that the file couldn't be found. Since I have text and binary files on the netatalk volume, I've changed the default mapping in AppleVolumes.system to ". ???? ????". The problem _only_ seems to occur on files that do NOT have an filename extension - e.g., "Makefile". Files that use the default mapping that _do_ have a filename extension seem to work ok. Has anyone else seen this problem? Jay O'Conor jco@saratoga.award.com From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 18 18:02:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id SAA10399; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 18:02:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA10395; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 18:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA20055; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 18:02:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA20048 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 18:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jots1.ca.metsci.com (jots1.ca.metsci.com [199.106.147.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id SAA20032 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 18:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tomcat.ca.metsci.com by jots1.ca.metsci.com with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA03748; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 15:01:48 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 14:57:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Solmssen To: Jay Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems with netatalk1.4b2+asun2.0a14 In-Reply-To: <199708182154.OAA12058@www.saratoga.award.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've seen something similar - turning off the copy speed-up functions in speed doubler solved my problem on 7.6.1. Is there something similar built-in to MacOS8? ---- Andrew On Mon, 18 Aug 1997, Jay wrote: > First, I've got to state that asun's patches to netatalk 1.4b2 are great! > He's managed to cure *most* of my problems with netatalk 1.4b2 and Mac > OS 8. > Unfortunately, there appears to be one final lingering problem. The > problem occurs when copying files from the netatalk volume to a native > Mac HFS volume. When the copy encounters a file that uses the default > AppleVolumes.* file mapping, the copy stops, complaining that the file > couldn't be found. Since I have text and binary files on the netatalk > volume, I've changed the default mapping in AppleVolumes.system to ". > ???? ????". The problem _only_ seems to occur on files that do NOT have > an filename extension - e.g., "Makefile". Files that use the default > mapping that _do_ have a filename extension seem to work ok. > Has anyone else seen this problem? > > > Jay O'Conor > jco@saratoga.award.com > From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 18 19:06:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id TAA11572; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 19:06:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA11567; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 19:05:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA26313; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 19:06:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA26311 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 19:06:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sol.AgiX.NET (Sol.AgiX.NET [194.112.66.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA26305 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 19:06:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from castor.agix.net (Castor.AgiX.NET [194.112.66.146]) by sol.AgiX.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA14259 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 01:05:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from NASE2.bellenberg.de (Access-Clt9.rz.fh-ulm.de [141.59.42.49]) by castor.agix.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA14161 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 01:05:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by NASE2.bellenberg.de with Microsoft Mail id <01BCAC3A.DD681DC0@NASE2.bellenberg.de>; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 00:57:28 +-200 Message-ID: <01BCAC3A.DD681DC0@NASE2.bellenberg.de> From: Stephan Bauer To: "'netatalk-admins@umich.edu'" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems with starting atalkd Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 00:54:24 +-200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm having problems with starting atalkd. Does anybody know how to solve this problem? starting appletalk daemons:Net (0) not in net-range (65280-65534). atalkdnbp_rgstr: Connection timed out Can't register sam1:Workstation@* nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out Can't register sam1:netatalk@* nbprgstr papd afpd. My atalkd.conf looks like (created by atalkd) eth0 -phase 2 -net 65280-65534 -addr 65280.84 dummy0 -phase 2 -net 65280-65534 -addr 0.0 Thanks Stephan Bauer bauer@tao.de From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 18 19:24:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id TAA12159; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 19:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA12152; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 19:24:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA00737; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 19:24:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA00735 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 19:24:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.sonoma.net (tuna.sonoma.net [204.189.40.107]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA00691 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 19:24:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from eric@localhost) by www.sonoma.net (8.8.5/8.7.1) id QAA29716; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 16:23:52 -0700 Message-ID: <19970818162351.51261@sonoma.net> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 16:23:51 -0700 From: Eric Eisenhart To: Stephan Bauer Cc: "'netatalk-admins@umich.edu'" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems with starting atalkd References: <01BCAC3A.DD681DC0@NASE2.bellenberg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-md5; boundary=mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: <01BCAC3A.DD681DC0@NASE2.bellenberg.de>; from Stephan Bauer on Tue, Aug 19, 1997 at 12:54:24AM +0400 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tue, Aug 19, 1997 at 12:54:24AM +0400, Stephan Bauer wrote: > starting appletalk daemons:Net (0) not in net-range (65280-65534). > eth0 -phase 2 -net 65280-65534 -addr 65280.84 > dummy0 -phase 2 -net 65280-65534 -addr 0.0 Try removing the "dummy0" line from your atalkd.conf file... -- -------------------------------------------------- Eric Eisenhart / eric@sonoma.net System Administrator and Programmer for Sonoma.Net -------------------------------------------------- --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBM/jZhX7QaCnupMuFAQFZLQf7B4ip6W4CezpUFZjxIjiINBrvwnm2Y9uB 1sez8HrzJL8D0f/P7bkh9DQxTMewQBKGC3o0BgSMp+YgIH7aSd3t6f52baYcqDeT h4s8H4/j1i39r4NjP9w0zrr7escqKLge2y1p/3afnpeNj9MN9KWejaRS8t8AlKgo VS6p6bOAY2n5fJ0BEICXrNSER57EPwTr6M4wQTbZG+9Jtfzg2j2Tpm12awqstyHx Q5I/c5HBqSjs/tSmvN+v2eCwVoyv9MKkTYR6IHI/FbIFxldAp7h7KaogFUDFEX/s 1n/RnEcX44fGeXThsHstmzr2ng1atzezrJNq2LYXypvz14XUSAeVQg== =QDPc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ-- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 18 20:10:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id UAA12923; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:10:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA12919; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:10:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA11289; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:10:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA11282 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:10:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.saratoga.award.com (www.saratoga.award.com [38.168.77.15]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA11274 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:10:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [38.168.77.72] (hugo.saratoga.award.com [38.168.77.72]) by www.saratoga.award.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA13271 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 17:42:03 -0700 Message-Id: <199708190042.RAA13271@www.saratoga.award.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Yet Another Netatalk problem (YANP) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 97 17:14:28 -0700 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Jay To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I think this one might have been mentioned on this list before, but I can't seem to find it in the archives... I'm having another "file not found" problem when copying files from a netatalk volume. This time, it is with files that are in a read-only directory, and therefore there is not a .AppleDouble directory within it. Here's a test that reproduces the problem: 1) From the netatalk server, create a directory named "foo" (mkdir foo). Do this in a directory this is visible via netatalk. 2) Create a file in the foo directory (optional) (touch foo/bar). 3) Change foo so it is read-only (chmod a-w foo) 4) On the Mac client, cause the parent folder of foo to be re-read (remount the volume, or close and reopen the parent folder, whatever) 5) Try to copy the now visible foo folder to a local Mac disk. Bzzzzzt. Won't work. I'm running Mac OS 8 with netatalk 1.4b2+asun2.0a14. I didn't have this problem with netatalk 1.4b2 (no patches) and Mac OS 7.6.1. Anyone familiar with this one? Jay O'Conor jco@saratoga.award.com From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 19 09:29:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA17327; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:29:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA17318; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:29:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA13420; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:29:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA13413 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:29:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chris-pc.ons.net ([194.7.74.19]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA13344 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:29:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chris-pc (christ@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chris-pc.ons.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA29528 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 15:33:16 +0200 Message-ID: <33F9A09C.40A3C66E@netit.be> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 15:33:16 +0200 From: chris thoen Organization: Net it be X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.0 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] character mapping Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I started using netatalk 1.3.3 on linux 2.0 several weeks ago. I sometimes have problems with character mapping : a character that existed already on the disk before starting up netatalk a few weeks ago, is mapped wrong. Is there some table read by netatalk, where I can do some character mapping? Thanks, Chris -- Chris THOEN Systeembeheerder Net it be Posthoflei 3 2600 BERCHEM tel : 03/286.04.34 fax : 03/286.04.70 email : christ@netit.be url : www.netit.be From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 19 09:45:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA18346; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:45:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA18330; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:44:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA18175; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:45:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA18166 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:45:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de (dx4.pingnet.de [194.148.12.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA18137 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:45:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) id PAA23444; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 15:44:34 +0200 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 15:44:33 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: chris thoen cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] character mapping In-Reply-To: <33F9A09C.40A3C66E@netit.be> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > I sometimes have problems with character mapping : a character that > existed already on the disk before starting up netatalk a few weeks ago, > is mapped wrong. > > Is there some table read by netatalk, where I can do some character > mapping? What kind of character do you mean? Filenames or Linefeed-Translation? In Netatalk 1.4b2 there is a compile-time option in etc/afpd, which you may switch off to do no CR->LF and vice-versa conversion (and thus corrupting binary files if they weren't successfully registered with netatalk). :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 19 09:54:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA19140; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:54:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA19115; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:53:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA21358; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:54:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA21341 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:54:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccimail.mediaone.com (continental.com [169.152.79.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id JAA21221 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:53:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.se1.mediaone.com by ccimail.mediaone.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA26891; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:54:54 -0400 Received: from [169.152.160.78] by m1.se1.mediaone.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA27674; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:47:34 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199708190042.RAA13271@www.saratoga.award.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:55:29 -0500 To: Jay From: James Sentman Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Yet Another Netatalk problem (YANP) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ---------- >I think this one might have been mentioned on this list before, but I >can't seem to find it in the archives... > >I'm having another "file not found" problem when copying files from a >netatalk volume. This time, it is with files that are in a read-only >directory, and therefore there is not a .AppleDouble directory within it. >Here's a test that reproduces the problem: > >1) From the netatalk server, create a directory named "foo" (mkdir foo). >Do this in a directory this is visible via netatalk. >2) Create a file in the foo directory (optional) (touch foo/bar). >3) Change foo so it is read-only (chmod a-w foo) >4) On the Mac client, cause the parent folder of foo to be re-read >(remount the volume, or close and reopen the parent folder, whatever) >5) Try to copy the now visible foo folder to a local Mac disk. Bzzzzzt. >Won't work. > >I'm running Mac OS 8 with netatalk 1.4b2+asun2.0a14. I didn't have this >problem with netatalk 1.4b2 (no patches) and Mac OS 7.6.1. > >Anyone familiar with this one? > > >Jay O'Conor >jco@saratoga.award.com ---------- Under OS8 I see the same problem. It seems that OS8 is not happy with the absence of a resource fork, even just on data files. It also wont let some applications open those files without an error. In order to be able to copy the files you must have them in a directory that is writable by the client and then open the folder window, this creates the appropriate entries in .AppleDouble and then you can drag them elseware on the Mac. There may be other work arounds that would allow you to keep files in a locked folder, but I haven't pursued them. The only problems I've had with OS8 have been with appletalk. My finder gets hosed up whenever I do something unusual, sometimes quitting unexpectedly and restarting, not always sucessfully. -James __________________________________________________________________ James Sentman sentman@m1.mediaone.com Internet Systems Specialist Media One http://www.mediaone.com/ http://shoga.wwa.com/~sentman/ __________________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 19 14:02:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA27233; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 14:02:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA27221; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 14:02:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA19679; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 14:02:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA19660 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 14:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shark.sfei.org (shark.sfei.org [204.118.78.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA19635 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 14:02:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.118.78.9] (salmon.sfei.org [204.118.78.9]) by shark.sfei.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05368 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 10:32:15 -0700 X-Sender: mike@shark.sfei.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199708131659.JAA05606@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> References: (message from Michael May on Tue, 12 Aug 1997 21:23:27 -0700) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 10:31:03 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Michael May Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re:os8, finder info yuckiness, and a fix followup Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > I said I would report to you on how your fix for OS 8's finder jumpiness > went. Well, our unix guru here brought up the patched version (under linux) > and for some reason all Mac logins were disabled with "incorrect password" > errors, no matter how the unix passwords were fooled with. The prob > persisted even after "downgrading" back to a previously functional version! > Anyway, now we're back at square one with 1.3.X (working properly) and will > be giving it another go soon. > >i believe i mentioned in my announcement that i now have PAM support >in netatalk. as you didn't complain about a compile problem, i'm >assuming that you have it. you'll need to add entries for >netatalk. either create an /etc/pam.d/netatalk or add it to >/etc/pam.conf. there's a sample file in config. > >-a Yes, getting PAM properly set up did the trick. The finder jumpiness is indeed fixed. Thank you Adrian! Mike ---------------------------- Michael May San Francisco Estuary Institute (510) 231-9539 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 19 15:01:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA29814; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 15:01:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA29793; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 15:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA14462; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 15:01:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA14447 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 15:01:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cc00ms.unity.ncsu.edu (cc00ms.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.1.35]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA14399; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 15:01:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [152.1.11.13] (ivanova.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.11.13]) by cc00ms.unity.ncsu.edu (8.8.4/US19Dec96) with ESMTP id PAA19023; Tue, 19 Aug 1997 15:00:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: user@hesiod Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199708160328.UAA09462@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 14:49:38 -0400 To: a sun , netatalk-admins@umich.edu, netatalk@umich.edu From: Everette Gray Allen Subject: [netatalk-admins] 1.4.b2 +asun 2.0a14 and solaris volumes Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have gotten 1.4b2+asun2.0a14 to compile (with some warnings) with ufs only and have it configured but it will not publish a volume in the chooser. It will read its afpd.conf and I did a copy/paste of the Guest Volume server and set a ufs dir in /u/mac and set the premissions thru out to 777. AppleVolumes.system has /u/mac "test" as the only entry. All the config files and AppleVolumes are readable and /usr/adm/messages shows no errors. I can not login as a "real user" using root however (get password incorrect) even tho using -d shows the correct password is sent. Anyone have any ideas. Everette Gray Allen Consultant IV Box 7109 NCState Campus Computing Services Raleigh, NC 27695-7109 919-515-2517 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 20 15:05:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA18541; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 15:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA18535; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 15:05:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA03969; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 15:05:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA03958 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 15:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.saratoga.award.com (root@www.saratoga.award.com [38.168.77.15]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA03929 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 15:05:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [38.168.77.72] (hugo.saratoga.award.com [38.168.77.72]) by www.saratoga.award.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA23311 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 12:37:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199708201937.MAA23311@www.saratoga.award.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: Yet Another Netatalk problem (YANP) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 97 12:05:50 -0700 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Jay cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm learning a little more about the problem I'm having copying files with netatalk1.4b2+asun2.0a14 and Mac OS 8. I've included my earlier email on this topic, and a reply, below. The problem is not with the Resource Fork per se, but with the Finder Info. Mac OS 8 is happy enough to work with files that don't have a Resource Fork. Of course, both are stored in the .AppleDouble directory on a netatalk volume. Mac OS 7.6.1 has no problems with netatalk1.4b2+asun2.0a14 and read-only directories, so it would appear that Mac OS 8 is doing things differently. Mac OS 8 has problems (e.g., will not sucessfully copy) not only files in read-only directories, but any file that hasn't previously been "seen" by a Mac OS client. For some reason, a Finder copy will not cause the Finder Info to be created by netatalk, but opening the folder will. Question: Why does netatalk insist on creating the Finder Info for Unix files (e.g., files that were created on the server, not by a Mac OS client)? I could see this as a caching mechanism to avoid having to synthesize the Finder Info each time, but netatalk should not _require_ the presence of the Finder Info in the .AppleDouble directory to function properly. Here's hoping you netatlk source jocks are able to come up with something to fix this. Netatalk and Mac OS 8 are still not happy campers. Jay O'Conor jco@saratoga.award.com >---------- >>I think this one might have been mentioned on this list before, but I >>can't seem to find it in the archives... >> >>I'm having another "file not found" problem when copying files from a >>netatalk volume. This time, it is with files that are in a read-only >>directory, and therefore there is not a .AppleDouble directory within it. >>Here's a test that reproduces the problem: >> >>1) From the netatalk server, create a directory named "foo" (mkdir foo). >>Do this in a directory this is visible via netatalk. >>2) Create a file in the foo directory (optional) (touch foo/bar). >>3) Change foo so it is read-only (chmod a-w foo) >>4) On the Mac client, cause the parent folder of foo to be re-read >>(remount the volume, or close and reopen the parent folder, whatever) >>5) Try to copy the now visible foo folder to a local Mac disk. Bzzzzzt. >>Won't work. >> >>I'm running Mac OS 8 with netatalk 1.4b2+asun2.0a14. I didn't have this >>problem with netatalk 1.4b2 (no patches) and Mac OS 7.6.1. >> >>Anyone familiar with this one? >> >> >>Jay O'Conor >>jco@saratoga.award.com > >---------- > >Under OS8 I see the same problem. It seems that OS8 is not happy with the >absence of a resource fork, even just on data files. It also wont let some >applications open those files without an error. > >In order to be able to copy the files you must have them in a directory >that is writable by the client and then open the folder window, this >creates the appropriate entries in .AppleDouble and then you can drag them >elseware on the Mac. There may be other work arounds that would allow you >to keep files in a locked folder, but I haven't pursued them. > >The only problems I've had with OS8 have been with appletalk. My finder >gets hosed up whenever I do something unusual, sometimes quitting >unexpectedly and restarting, not always sucessfully. > >-James >__________________________________________________________________ > James Sentman sentman@m1.mediaone.com > Internet Systems Specialist Media One > > http://www.mediaone.com/ http://shoga.wwa.com/~sentman/ >__________________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 20 21:06:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id VAA01649; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 21:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id VAA01645; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 21:06:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA28483; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 21:06:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA28478 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 21:06:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alice.stimpy.com (alice.stimpy.com [208.211.184.17]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id VAA28449 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 21:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alice.stimpy.com (alice.stimpy.com [208.211.184.17]) by alice.stimpy.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA26176 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 18:04:39 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 18:04:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Walt Bigelow To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] network and file access speed Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have been using MacOS 7.6.~ for some time now. I noticed it does not seem to have much speed improvments over its earlier 7.5.. My question/problem is this: I am running atalk on my linux fileserver (linux 2.0.30) slackware release, as well as serving my SGI animation lab. On the fileserver as well as the mac's, I am running 100base-T NICs. As for my linux box, it is the samba, nfs, and appleshare servers. Between my SGI's and linux using NFS I can obtain a transfer rate (while copying a file) of 15.5Mbits/sec. When using appletalk (although I do understand that appletalk as a protocol is ineficent) I get less than 2Mbits/s, if that. I am constantly doing mass copys of hundreds of 700K files from my macs to the fileserver. What I want to know is 1) does mac os 8, running appleshare over IP speed things up? 2) what kind of performance results have others been getting with this setup? 3) are there any tweaks I can make with my current configuration to increase the transfer rate between linux <-> macs? I have noticed that networking under any macintosh platform sucks, and unfortunately I am stuck with using the macs. (everyone loves photoshop and afteraffects!!) Any insight would be apricated!! -Walt walt@stimpy.com From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 20 21:58:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id VAA02576; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 21:58:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id VAA02571; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 21:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA21528; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 21:58:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA21523 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 21:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from it.stlawu.edu (mosedore@it.stlawu.edu [199.0.79.17]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA21482 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 21:58:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mosedore@localhost) by it.stlawu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA00307 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 21:56:49 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 21:56:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael O. Sedore" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Shadow passwords Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've been trying for five hours now to get netatalk 1.4b2 to work with a Linux 2.0.30 shadowed password system. I can perfectly well access the server from non-passworded (test) accounts, but logging in to passworded accounts invariably generates "Your password is incorrect..." Netatalk compiles cleanly. I've searched the mail archives and FAQ's and web sites. I've added DEFS= -DSHADOWPW to my ../netatalk/sys/linux/Makefile, and I've added -DSHADOW_PASSWORD to the list of CFLAGS in ../netatalk/etc/afpd/Makefile. I've run clean out of ideas at this point and would appreciate any pointers. Being this close and not having a working service is just a bit frustrating. -Mike ----------------------------------------------------------------- Michael O. Sedore Instructional Technology Department mosedore@it.stlawu.edu St. Lawrence University http://it.stlawu.edu/~mosedore Canton, NY 13617 ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 21 01:18:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id BAA13500; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 01:18:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id BAA13496; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 01:18:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA26492; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 01:18:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA26487 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 01:18:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from servo.na3.seac.pf (root@wired.seac.pf [208.139.164.100]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id BAA26469 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 01:18:39 -0400 (EDT) From: paquet@seac.pf Received: from gibson.adm.seac.pf (gibson.adm.seac.pf [192.168.4.1]) by servo.na3.seac.pf (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA05632 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 19:16:52 -1000 Received: (from paquet@localhost) by gibson.adm.seac.pf (8.7.6/8.7.3) id TAA07590; Wed, 20 Aug 1997 19:16:52 -1000 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 19:16:52 -1000 Message-Id: <199708210516.TAA07590@gibson.adm.seac.pf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] character set mapping X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello everybody, I'd be happy if Netatalk could translate filenames from the Mac coding scheme to ISO-Latin1 (and vice-versa). That would help me a lot in having my samba and netatalk servers cooperate. (We speak french here in Tahiti, so we have to deal with those weird accentuated chars ;) More over, some chars are not allowed on Window$ (like '/') and it would be good if Netatalk could reject the creation of filenames using such chars. I have written a little Perl script which converts all those things but this is not an appliable solution. I am far from being a C programming terminator. I found interesting things in the CAP and samba source code but I am not good enough to use them to patch Netatalk. Has anyone already thought of it ? PS: My deepest thanks to the Netatalk team as well as Adrian Sun. Keep up the very good work ! -- _ David PAQUET email : paquet@seac.pf __\ /\ System Coconut phone : +689 861214 / _\|__ fax : +689 861019 //o\\ \ | \\ Civil Aviation || TAHITI - French Polynesia ________________________________/ \ From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 21 05:56:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id FAA02475; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 05:56:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id FAA02471; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 05:56:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA02311; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 05:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA02309 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 05:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (colossus.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.202]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id FAA02305 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 05:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [146.141.26.200] (macenroe1.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.200]) by colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA06834 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:57:34 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 23:58:26 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (John Ostrowick) Subject: [netatalk-admins] how to ..? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu hi everyone i'm running netatalk 1.4b2 under redhat, and wonder if anyone else here has observed that it drops connections very impolitely after a certain timeout. if so, does anyone know how to prevent this behaviour (eg hack the code?) TIA!! :-) sample syslog follows: Aug 19 11:21:23 colossus afpd[189]: asp_alrm: 31673 timed out Aug 19 11:21:23 colossus afpd[189]: asp_alrm: 32010 timed out Aug 19 11:21:23 colossus afpd[189]: asp_alrm: 31880 timed out Aug 19 11:21:23 colossus afpd[189]: asp_alrm: 31685 timed out Aug 19 11:21:23 colossus afpd[189]: asp_alrm: 31980 timed out Aug 19 11:21:23 colossus afpd[189]: asp_alrm: 31686 timed out Aug 19 11:21:23 colossus afpd[189]: asp_alrm: 31254 timed out Aug 19 11:21:23 colossus afpd[189]: asp_alrm: 31678 timed out Aug 19 11:21:23 colossus afpd[189]: asp_alrm: 31679 timed out Aug 19 11:21:23 colossus afpd[189]: asp_alrm: 31687 timed out Aug 19 11:21:23 colossus afpd[189]: asp_alrm: 31983 timed out Aug 19 11:21:33 colossus afpd[32010]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Connection timed out Aug 19 11:21:33 colossus afpd[31880]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Connection timed out Aug 19 11:21:33 colossus afpd[31687]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Connection timed out Aug 19 11:21:33 colossus afpd[31254]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Connection timed out Aug 19 11:21:33 colossus afpd[31980]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Connection timed out Aug 19 11:21:33 colossus afpd[31983]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Connection timed out Aug 19 11:21:33 colossus afpd[31673]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Connection timed out Aug 19 11:21:33 colossus afpd[31685]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Connection timed out Aug 19 11:21:33 colossus afpd[31686]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Connection timed out Aug 19 11:21:33 colossus afpd[31679]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Connection timed out Aug 19 11:21:33 colossus afpd[31678]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Connection timed ou ________________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand 1 Jan Smuts Ave, Johannesburg, South Africa. Senate House 1012 Phone: +27 11 716-3783 Fax: +27 11 339-3513 jon@cs.wits.ac.za jon@is.co.za My web page: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/more/jon/aboutme.html My ftp site: ftp://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za My listserv: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/listservs.html From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 21 08:58:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id IAA04245; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 08:58:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id IAA04241; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 08:58:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA28316; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 08:58:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA28308 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 08:58:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from solist. ([193.219.246.204]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id IAA28293 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 08:58:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from partitur.se by solist. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA14863; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 14:57:56 +0200 Message-ID: <33FC3B54.D838BF29@partitur.se> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 14:57:56 +0200 From: Palle Girgensohn Organization: Partitur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] character set mapping References: <199708210516.TAA07590@gibson.adm.seac.pf> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Bon jour, David! I have fiddled a bit with the same thought, and found some good spots in the netatalk code to insert translation code into. My time is limited, however :(. It shouldn't be too hard to do a straight translation, but there might be problems in defining when to translate, i.e. for which documents. All this is available with CAP, but CAP has other drawbacks, which made us move over to netatalk. For now, we live with the problem. Also, is anyone else looking into this? Best regards, Palle paquet@seac.pf wrote: > Hello everybody, > > I'd be happy if Netatalk could translate filenames from the Mac coding > scheme to ISO-Latin1 (and vice-versa). That would help me a lot in > having my samba and netatalk servers cooperate. (We speak french here > in Tahiti, so we have to deal with those weird accentuated chars ;) > > More over, some chars are not allowed on Window$ (like '/') and it > would be good if Netatalk could reject the creation of filenames using > such chars. > > I have written a little Perl script which converts all those things > but this is not an appliable solution. > > I am far from being a C programming terminator. I found interesting > things in the CAP and samba source code but I am not good enough to > use them to patch Netatalk. > > Has anyone already thought of it ? > > PS: > My deepest thanks to the Netatalk team as well as Adrian Sun. Keep up > the very good work ! > > -- > _ > David PAQUET email : paquet@seac.pf __\ /\ > System Coconut phone : +689 861214 / _\|__ > fax : +689 861019 //o\\ \ > | \\ > Civil Aviation || > TAHITI - French Polynesia ________________________________/ \ From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 21 09:49:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id JAA05472; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 09:49:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA05468; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 09:49:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA15407; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 09:49:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA15399 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 09:49:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA15389 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 09:49:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA16846; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 06:15:22 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA13978; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 06:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 06:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708211348.GAA13978@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: jco@saratoga.award.com CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199708201937.MAA23311@www.saratoga.award.com> (message from Jay on Wed, 20 Aug 97 12:05:50 -0700) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: Yet Another Netatalk problem (YANP) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Question: Why does netatalk insist on creating the Finder Info for Unix files (e.g., files that were created on the server, not by a Mac OS client)? I could see this as a caching mechanism to avoid having to synthesize the Finder Info each time, but netatalk should not _require_ the presence of the Finder Info in the .AppleDouble directory to function properly. netatalk doesn't and really shouldn't have any idea of what the finder info should be. it's only supposed to save it and not fiddle with it. for read-write volumes, this works out okay. when asked about a file w/out a corresponding .AppleDouble entry, netatalk sends a bogus finder info entry and the mac client comes back w/ a fixup reply. on read-only volumes, this is going to be difficult to solve for the general case as the fixup gets rejected. however, i should be able to peek in the os8 technote and modify the default finder info reply so that it works. ugh. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 21 10:29:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA06967; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:29:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA06952; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA29716; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA29709 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ux4.sp.cs.cmu.edu (UX4.SP.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.198.104]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id KAA29704 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:29:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from FISH.PRODIGY.CS.CMU.EDU by ux4.sp.cs.cmu.edu id aa19135; 21 Aug 97 10:28 EDT X-Sender: will@ux4.sp.cs.cmu.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199708211348.GAA13978@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> References: <199708201937.MAA23311@www.saratoga.award.com> (message from Jay on Wed, 20 Aug 97 12:05:50 -0700) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:28:48 -0400 To: a sun From: William Uther Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: Yet Another Netatalk problem (YANP) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu a sun wrote: >when asked about a >file w/out a corresponding .AppleDouble entry, netatalk sends a bogus >finder info entry and the mac client comes back w/ a fixup reply. > >on read-only volumes, this is going to be difficult to solve for the >general case as the fixup gets rejected. however, i should be able to >peek in the os8 technote and modify the default finder info reply so >that it works. ugh. What does the current os8 AppleShare client do with a normal server that is both locked and hasn't been used with os8 before? I assume it would have the same, incorrect, finder info as netatalk. If the volume is not mounted for writing you shouldn't be able to change the finder info there either - or is this a security hole in old apple servers? \x/ill :-} William Uther "When I die I want to go quietly, will@cs.cmu.edu in my sleep like my Grandfather, Dept. of Computer Science, not screaming like the passengers in his car" Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~will/ From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 21 10:33:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA07290; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:33:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from royal.engin.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA07280; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:33:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by royal.engin.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with X.500 id KAA04250; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:33:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by royal.engin.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with X.500 id KAA04248 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:33:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ecronin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by royal.engin.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA04244 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:33:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:33:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Cronin To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Error with netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a15 and FreeBSD 2.2.2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello. I have been playing with the new TCP/IP patches for netatalk on my BSD box, and am having a problem. Connecting to the server, mounting volumes, copying files from it, running programs on it etc. all works fine. But when I attempt to copy from a mac to the netatalk server, connected either over appletalk or TCP/IP, I get an error type -50 on the mac side and: Aug 21 10:27:27 chicago afpd[200]: afp_setforkparams: ad_dtruncate: File too large in the servers log file. I only have access to MacOS 8 machines, so this may actually be the MacOS8's AppleShare clients fault not netatalk. Anyone running 7.6 is welcome to try connecting as guest to chicago.gmi.edu and uploading something to the incoming directory. Eric From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 21 11:02:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA09330; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:02:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA09326; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:02:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA29848; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:02:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA29822 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:02:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cnrmail.lbl.gov (buster.lbl.gov [131.243.65.29]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA29793 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:02:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.3.9.20] by cnrmail.lbl.gov with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2b3); Thu, 21 Aug 1997 08:02:14 -0700 X-Sender: wright@cnrmail.lbl.gov Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 08:02:11 -0700 To: Eric Cronin , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Russ Wright Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Error with netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a15 and FreeBSD 2.2.2 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have the same problem. I also notice that when I do a "Get Info" on the remote disk the size is really crazy (way too big). Russ At 10:33 AM -0400 8/21/97, Eric Cronin wrote: >Hello. I have been playing with the new TCP/IP patches for netatalk on my >BSD box, and am having a problem. Connecting to the server, mounting >volumes, copying files from it, running programs on it etc. all works >fine. But when I attempt to copy from a mac to the netatalk server, >connected either over appletalk or TCP/IP, I get an error type -50 on the >mac side and: >Aug 21 10:27:27 chicago afpd[200]: afp_setforkparams: ad_dtruncate: File >too large > >in the servers log file. I only have access to MacOS 8 machines, so this >may actually be the MacOS8's AppleShare clients fault not netatalk. >Anyone running 7.6 is welcome to try connecting as guest to >chicago.gmi.edu and uploading something to the incoming directory. > >Eric From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 21 11:17:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA11238; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:17:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA11183; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:17:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA20977; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:17:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA20950 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:17:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ccimail.mediaone.com (continental.com [169.152.79.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id LAA20888 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:17:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1.se1.mediaone.com by ccimail.mediaone.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA25687; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:18:22 -0400 Received: from [169.152.160.78] by m1.se1.mediaone.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA14335; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:11:01 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:18:59 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: James Sentman Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris problems Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all, We have been suffering from the same problems with the finder since we upgraded to OS8. I loaded and installed the Solaris patched version of atalk on our box here but when I tried to connect to it it wasn't allowing appletalk connections at all and when connecting via IP the client connected ok, verified my password/userid, asked we what drives I wanted to connect to, and then froze hard, the atalk double arrows were lit and everything else was dead. I had removed the .AppleDesktop file as requested in the README. What else did I forget? I went back to the original version for now and everything is fine. (well except for the jumpy windows) Thanks, James __________________________________________________________________ James Sentman sentman@m1.mediaone.com Internet Systems Specialist Media One (804) 264-4097 http://www.mediaone.com/ http://shoga.wwa.com/~sentman/ __________________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 21 14:23:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id OAA18647; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 14:23:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA18643; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 14:23:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA04816; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 14:23:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA04805 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 14:23:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA04796 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 14:23:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04467; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yama.whistle.com(207.76.205.27) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd004464; Thu Aug 21 18:17:00 1997 Message-ID: <33FC85E5.31DFF4F5@whistle.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:16:05 -0700 From: Jeremy Allison Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-970422-RELEN0 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu CC: jallison@alpo.whistle.com Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] character set mapping Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu paquet@seac.pf wrote: > I'd be happy if Netatalk could translate filenames from the Mac coding > scheme to ISO-Latin1 (and vice-versa). That would help me a lot in > having my samba and netatalk servers cooperate. (We speak french here > in Tahiti, so we have to deal with those weird accentuated chars ;) David, I have done a lot of work here at Whistle on getting Samba and netatalk to cooperate. I am the primary maintainer of Samba, so the Samba changes I have checked directly into the Samba code, but I need to feed my netatalk changes back into the main source stream. Essentially, I have changed netatalk so that you can specify a dos client code page that netatalk will translate the MAC roman character set into before storing on the unix drive. Now this means that the files are stored as dos code page characters on the unix drive, netatalk needs a mechanism adding similar to Samba that would allow a translation to a unix character set before storage - but this code does the job of allowing accented characters to be seen correctly between windows and mac clients (we need this for the Whistle product). The code is somewhat primitive at the moment as it uses static tables built into netatalk but I will be extending it to allow dynamic loading of code page tables based on the client code page set in a config variable. I should have all this finished in a couple of months, could someone tell me how to submit this stuff back ? I have been meaning to do this for a while, but have been rather busy with writing it :-). Regards, Jeremy Allison, Whistle Communications. -- -------------------------------------------------------- Buying an operating system without source is like buying a self-assembly Space Shuttle with no instructions. -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 21 15:06:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA19844; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:06:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from royal.engin.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA19837; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:06:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by royal.engin.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with X.500 id PAA09863; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:06:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by royal.engin.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with X.500 id PAA09861 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:06:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ecronin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by royal.engin.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA09857 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:06:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:06:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Cronin To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: Error with netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a15 and FreeBSD 2.2.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 21 Aug 1997, Eric Cronin wrote: > Hello. I have been playing with the new TCP/IP patches for netatalk on my > BSD box, and am having a problem. Connecting to the server, mounting > volumes, copying files from it, running programs on it etc. all works > fine. But when I attempt to copy from a mac to the netatalk server, > connected either over appletalk or TCP/IP, I get an error type -50 on the > mac side and: > Aug 21 10:27:27 chicago afpd[200]: afp_setforkparams: ad_dtruncate: File > too large > > in the servers log file. I only have access to MacOS 8 machines, so this > may actually be the MacOS8's AppleShare clients fault not netatalk. > Anyone running 7.6 is welcome to try connecting as guest to > chicago.gmi.edu and uploading something to the incoming directory. > > Eric > An interesting addition to this: It looks like MacOS8 is to blame here, and the finder in particular (maybe the new multithreaded copy?). If I save from within an application to a netatalk mounted volume, there are no problems at all, even with a multi-megabyte file... Very unusual. Eric From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 21 15:19:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id PAA20427; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:19:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA20420; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:19:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA06663; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA06656 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:19:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cdms-nt3.cadmus.com (cdms-nt3.cadmus.com [207.78.64.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id PAA06643; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:19:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cdms-nt3.cadmus.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.57) id <01BCAE45.97C1FAE0@cdms-nt3.cadmus.com>; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:19:18 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Fagnon, Raymond" To: "'netatalk-admins'" , "'netatalk'" Subject: [netatalk-admins] configuring netatalk Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:19:17 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.57 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Were do the conf and Applevolumes file go for the program to get its configuration? XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XRaymond X Xwill work for unix X Xemail: FagnonR@cadmus.com X XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 21 18:33:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id SAA29252; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 18:33:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA29222; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 18:33:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA07453; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 18:33:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA07443 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 18:33:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.saratoga.award.com (root@www.saratoga.award.com [38.168.77.15]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA07430 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 18:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [38.168.77.72] (hugo.saratoga.award.com [38.168.77.72]) by www.saratoga.award.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA31209; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:06:24 -0700 Message-Id: <199708212306.QAA31209@www.saratoga.award.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: Yet Another Netatalk problem (YANP) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 97 15:34:00 -0700 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Jay To: "a sun" cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >netatalk doesn't and really shouldn't have any idea of what the finder >info should be. it's only supposed to save it and not fiddle with >it. for read-write volumes, this works out okay. when asked about a >file w/out a corresponding .AppleDouble entry, netatalk sends a bogus >finder info entry and the mac client comes back w/ a fixup reply. > >on read-only volumes, this is going to be difficult to solve for the >general case as the fixup gets rejected. however, i should be able to >peek in the os8 technote and modify the default finder info reply so >that it works. ugh. Interesting approach. I would have thought that it would send legitimate finder info since I'm assuming that netatalk has to synthesize something halfway reasonable for files mapped by AppleVolumes files. The current approach also cause problems for Mac OS 8 when a copy is performed on a file that has no entry in the .AppleDouble directory. Finder copies don't seem to trigger the creation of finder info in .AppleDouble. If the entry doesn't already exist, the copy fails with the usual "file couldn't be found" message. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 21 18:49:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id SAA00112; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 18:49:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA00107; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 18:49:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA01473; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 18:49:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA01461 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 18:49:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA01421 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 18:49:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20347; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:15:15 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA15123; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708212249.PAA15123@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: jco@saratoga.award.com CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199708212306.QAA31209@www.saratoga.award.com> (message from Jay on Thu, 21 Aug 97 15:34:00 -0700) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: Yet Another Netatalk problem (YANP) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Interesting approach. I would have thought that it would send legitimate finder info since I'm assuming that netatalk has to synthesize something halfway reasonable for files mapped by AppleVolumes files. well, it send 0's in the hope that that works. anyways, i've put up a pre-a15-2.tar.gz at ftp.u.washington.edu:/public/asun which actually fills in the finder info a bit. i would like people to test it on both os8 and os7 machines to see if it does the right thing. the test: create a dummy file: dummy.doc mount the appleshare volume you should see dummy.doc w/ the correct icon for its type. you shouldn't see finder jumpiness. peek in the corresponding .AppleDouble directory. you shouldn't see dummy.doc. also, for those having difficulties copying files to their netatalk server (bsd machines, from the sound of it), could you run w/ -d and report to me both the command and reply codes? something like the following should work: grep -e "commands:" -e "reply" logfile syslog's are also useful. the only test case i've been able to look at reports an impossible error code. truly confusing. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 21 19:59:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id TAA01111; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:59:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id TAA01107; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:58:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA23273; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:58:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA23262 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:58:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (42L6T34rK8QL/jI2x6/cmfEynH8xitnh@zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA23255 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:58:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA20763; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:58:50 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA15298; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:58:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 16:58:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708212358.QAA15298@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: ecronin@engin.umich.edu CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from Eric Cronin on Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:54:14 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: Error with netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a15 and FreeBSD 2.2.2 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu okay, i've figured out what the problem is. the appleshare client is getting confused when the .AppleDesktop directory is unwriteable. i'll see if there's a workaround. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 21 22:37:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id WAA07984; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:37:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id WAA07980; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA12121; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:37:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA12113 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:37:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA12102 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:37:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from saul9.u.washington.edu (asun@saul9.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.7]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA16690 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:37:41 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by saul9.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) id TAA02382; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708220237.TAA02382@saul9.u.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] availability of another pre-a15 patch Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu well, it turns out that i was forgetting to flush unread buffers in the event of an error condition. duh. people who are experiencing problems w/ writes to a server w/out write perms to .AppleDesktop are encouraged to try out pre-a15-3.tar.gz at ftp.u.washington.edu:/public/asun. hopefully, that should be the last of the streaming read/write-related problems in the code. if all goes well, i'll turn it into an a15 and start thinking about the wonders of mmap. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 21 22:41:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id WAA08211; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id WAA08206; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:41:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA12809; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:41:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA12807 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:41:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.sacbee.com (mail.sacbee.com [204.86.242.27]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA12803 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:41:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.103.9.3] (matteo.sacbee.com [128.103.9.3]) by mail.sacbee.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA21703 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:43:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: mmatteo@newmedia.sacbee.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:40:07 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Marc Matteo Subject: [netatalk-admins] Will it even come? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all, With all the work that a sun's been doing will we ever see Netatalk 1.4b3 with some finalized version of TCP/IP support and it promiced improved Solaris support? Marc Marc Matteo Web Engineer, The Sacramento Bee (916) 321-1242 http://www.sacbee.com From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 21 23:09:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id XAA09070; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 23:09:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id XAA09065; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 23:09:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id XAA09063; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 23:09:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id XAA09049; Thu, 21 Aug 1997 23:09:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708220309.XAA09049@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: netatalk@umich.edu To: Marc Matteo cc: netatalk@umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Will it even come? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:40:07 PDT." Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 23:09:33 -0400 X-Sender: epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Marc Matteo > Hi all, > > With all the work that a sun's been doing will we ever see Netatalk 1.4b3 > with some finalized version of TCP/IP support and it promiced improved > Solaris support? Yes. We already have plans made for releases up through 1.4.1. with TCP/IP, Solaris, MacOS8, and patches galore all making special appearances. EV AN From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 22 10:14:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id KAA12214; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 10:14:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA12210; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 10:14:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA28081; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 10:14:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA28066 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 10:14:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chris-pc.ons.net ([194.7.74.19]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA28043 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 10:14:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from chris-pc (christ@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chris-pc.ons.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA09547 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 16:17:17 +0200 Message-ID: <33FD9F6C.1FF64D0F@netit.be> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 16:17:16 +0200 From: chris thoen Organization: Net it be X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.0 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] creating aliases Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, We are running netatalk 1.3.3 on a linux system 2.0 Some of the users want to create an alias on their desktop (Mac os 7.5) to some directories on the Linux fileserver. They follow the following procedure : 1. create an alias on the fileserver 2. copy the alias to their desktop 3. delete the alias on the fileserver When they access the alias on the desktop, they come in a complete different directory on the unix server. They have the impression that in the beginning it is working fine, but after a while the computer is somehow loosing the right connection. I can understand netatalk has some problems, because deleting the aliases on the unix-server will delete the info in the .AppleDouble directory. Is there any procedure to make an alias on the right way? thanks, Chris - Chris THOEN Systeembeheerder Net it be Posthoflei 3 2600 BERCHEM tel : 03/286.04.34 fax : 03/286.04.70 email : christ@netit.be url : www.netit.be From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 22 11:35:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id LAA14133; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 11:35:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA14114; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 11:34:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA27606; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 11:34:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA27578 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 11:34:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coe.missouri.edu (tiger.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA27558 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 11:34:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.206.158.52] (baroque.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.52]) by coe.missouri.edu (8.8.7/8.8.3) with SMTP id KAA09247; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 10:34:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 10:34:32 +0000 From: Mark Donnelly Reply-To: mark@coe.missouri.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] creating aliases To: chris thoen , netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <33FD9F6C.1FF64D0F@netit.be> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Hello, > >We are running netatalk 1.3.3 on a linux system 2.0 > >Some of the users want to create an alias on their desktop (Mac os 7.5) >to some directories on the Linux fileserver. They follow the following >procedure : > 1. create an alias on the fileserver > 2. copy the alias to their desktop > 3. delete the alias on the fileserver > Well, this isn't really doing anything with netatalk, but rather MacOS, but this works for me: Download a copy of "Hidden Finder Features," which should be available at any info-mac mirror. This is a control panel that gives you the option of enabling some parts of the Finder that are disabled by default, including the ability to hold down control while dragging an item in order to create an alias to that item in the new location. (Control-drag makes an alias) Making new aliases that way works well for me (MacOS 7.6.1 and netatalk 1.3.3 through 1.4b2+asun14...) --Mark "I think so Brain, but if they called them sad meals, then no one would buy them." From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 22 17:20:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id RAA25423; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 17:20:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA25363; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 17:20:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA24127; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 17:20:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA24124 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 17:20:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shark.sfei.org (root@shark.sfei.org [204.118.78.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA24120 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 17:20:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.118.78.9] (salmon.sfei.org [204.118.78.9]) by shark.sfei.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25308 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 14:20:49 -0700 X-Sender: mike@shark.sfei.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 14:19:34 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Michael May Subject: [netatalk-admins] An alias workaround Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Here's something people can do until netatalk supports aliases. (Currently, unmounting and remounting a volume causes aliases to break.) Not a great solution, but some of you may find it useful: make an AppleScript application which acts like an alias. Here's a sample script: GenevatellGeneva application "Finder" activate open folder "My Folder" of folder "Staff" of disk "Shared Drive" end tell Currently I just edit these scripts by hand with Script Editor to create new "aliases" (I don't use many).=20 One can probably set up a script which will, for example, allow you to choose what the script opens by holding down the optionKey (if I write such a script, I'll post it, but don't hold your breath.) -Mike ---------------------------- Michael May San Francisco Estuary Institute (510) 231-9539 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 22 18:28:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) id SAA27422; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:28:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA27418; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:28:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA09012; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA09007 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:28:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shark.sfei.org (root@shark.sfei.org [204.118.78.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA08997 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:28:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.118.78.9] (salmon.sfei.org [204.118.78.9]) by shark.sfei.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25788 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 1997 15:29:18 -0700 X-Sender: mike@shark.sfei.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 15:28:02 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Michael May Subject: [netatalk-admins] MS Word 6 creating generic icons Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Here's a weird one: MS Word 6.0.1 files are in some cases saved with generic icons on a netatalk 1.4b2+asun2.0a14 volume. To witness: Open a folder in the finder. Switch to Word, keep a view of the folder's finder window in the background. Create and save a file to that folder. Proper icon appears. Close the Word file. The icon goes generic (automatically in OS 8, after window refresh in OS 7). Creator and type codes are blank. If you repeat the process, but after saving and before closing, you merely switch to the finder and back, then close, the icon remains correct. This behavior is not seen with Word 5, Excel 5, ClarisWorks 4, or PowerPoint 4. This behavior is also not seen when saving to a regular AppleShare volume, or with a 68K machine, all other parameters the same. Setup: netatalk1.4b2+asun2.0a14 on linux System 7.6.1 OR Mac OS 8 PowerBase 180 OR PowerMac 7200/120 MS Word 6.0.1 I have a feeling that this has something to do with the OS8 finder jumpiness fix (?). But the real prob seems to be with Word 6. Can anyone reproduce this? ---------------------------- Michael May San Francisco Estuary Institute (510) 231-9539 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 25 13:17:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA06192; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 13:17:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA06187; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 13:17:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA19653; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 13:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA19640 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 13:17:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from it.stlawu.edu (mosedore@it.stlawu.edu [199.0.79.17]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA19627 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 13:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mosedore@localhost) by it.stlawu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA05134 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 13:17:16 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 13:17:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael O. Sedore" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Shadow passwords -- still unsolved Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Gentlemen, ladies: I posted this a week ago to no avail, and I still have found no solution. There must be something I've just missed. Please pass along any wisdom that might push me toward a resolution. ------------------------------------------------------- I've been trying for five hours now to get netatalk 1.4b2 to work with a Linux 2.0.30 shadowed password system. I can perfectly well access the server from non-passworded (test) accounts, but logging in to passworded accounts invariably generates "Your password is incorrect..." Netatalk compiles cleanly. I've searched the mail archives and FAQ's and web sites. I've added DEFS= -DSHADOWPW to my ../netatalk/sys/linux/Makefile, and I've added -DSHADOW_PASSWORD to the list of CFLAGS in ../netatalk/etc/afpd/Makefile. -Mike ----------------------------------------------------------------- Michael O. Sedore Instructional Technology Department mosedore@it.stlawu.edu St. Lawrence University http://it.stlawu.edu/~mosedore Canton, NY 13617 ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 25 14:24:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA08625; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 14:24:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA08621; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 14:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA15930; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 14:24:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA15915 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 14:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pinus.slu.se (pinus.slu.se [130.238.98.11]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id OAA15898 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 14:23:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from WIN)%.algonet.se (du178-96.ppp.algonet.se [195.100.96.178]) by pinus.slu.se (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id UAA22076; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:23:30 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970825202442.006a41d8@pinus.slu.se> X-Sender: peterp@pinus.slu.se (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:24:42 +0200 To: "Michael O. Sedore" , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Peter Pettersson Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Shadow passwords -- still unsolved In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 13:17 1997-08-25 -0400, Michael O. Sedore wrote: > >Gentlemen, ladies: > >I posted this a week ago to no avail, and I still have found no solution. >There must be something I've just missed. Please pass along any wisdom >that might push me toward a resolution. > >------------------------------------------------------- > >I've been trying for five hours now to get netatalk 1.4b2 to work with a >Linux 2.0.30 shadowed password system. I can perfectly well access the >server from non-passworded (test) accounts, but logging in to passworded >accounts invariably generates "Your password is incorrect..." > >Netatalk compiles cleanly. I've searched the mail archives and FAQ's and >web sites. I've added DEFS= -DSHADOWPW to my >../netatalk/sys/linux/Makefile, and I've added -DSHADOW_PASSWORD to the >list of CFLAGS in ../netatalk/etc/afpd/Makefile. > >-Mike The problem seems to be something with the flags and defines. I traced the problem down to that the shadow parts in ../netatalk/etc/afpd/auth.c never get compiled. After commenting out the #ifdef SOLARIS in the beginning of that file it compiled correct and now works fine. /* #ifdef SOLARIS */ #define SHADOWPW /* #endif SOLARIS */ I hope this helps and that someone can find the right place to change. Peter Pettersson Dep. of Crop Prod. Sci. The Swedish Univ. Agric. Sci. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 25 14:39:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA09336; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 14:39:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from donkey.outsmart.net (donkey.outsmart.net [207.213.214.74]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with SMTP for id OAA09319; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 14:39:35 -0400 (EDT) From: john@outsmart.net Received: (qmail 7582 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Aug 1997 18:39:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19970825183931.7581.qmail@donkey.outsmart.net> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Asun's tcp patches To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 11:39:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu After months of successful 1.4b2 running I tried the latest (as of Sunday) patches. This is on Sparc Solaris 2.5.1. Result: big speed improvement copying large files, speed tripled to 800K per second (on 10Mb net). Not so sure about small files, needs more testing. The downside: when the client reboots, I get the reconnect to server dialog box - there are two scenarios here "too many connections" means that the afpd master process needs to be killed, or "can't contact server" means the afpd has died. The second is easily cured by a while loop around afpd, the first is more difficult. I have seen many complaints about the dying server scenario before, but I had never experienced it. Obviously if I can't get the server to behave I'll have to go back to 1.4b2 for the time being. I have afpd running -d, but what am I looking for ? I have seen afpd logout in /var/adm/messages, so that looked like a clean exit from afpd, but still the next connection fails. -- John From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 25 14:56:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA10323; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 14:56:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA10317; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 14:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA11550; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 14:56:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA11547 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 14:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailout02.btx.dtag.de (mailout02.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.150]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id OAA11536 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 14:56:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fwd03.btx.dtag.de ([194.25.2.163]) by mailout02.btx.dtag.de with smtp (S3.1.29.1) id ; Mon, 25 Aug 97 20:02 MET DST Received: from midihost (04963914193-0002(btxid)@[194.25.242.119]) by fwd03.btx.dtag.de with smtp (S3.1.29.1) id ; Mon, 25 Aug 97 19:05 MET DST Message-ID: <3401BE62.FBF0828@t-online.de> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 19:18:26 +0200 Organization: Musikhaus Nintemann X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk mailing list Subject: [netatalk-admins] Macromedia Freehand Problem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sender: 04963914193-0002@t-online.de (, Nintemann) From: Midiman@t-online.de (Thomas Nintemann) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm running netatalk-1.4b2 under Linux on an Pentium 133 with 128 MB Ram and 2 9GB SCSI Harddisk's. I use it as an Fileserver for my 9500-Mac. The Mac is running OSystem 7.5. On the Mac I use 4 DTP-Programm's 1. - Pagemaker 6.0 > work's fine. 2. - Quark Express > works's fine. 3. - Photoshop 3.0 > work's fine. 4. - Freehand 7.0 > load an old file and save it is O.K. load the saveing file again: The Mac throw a Bomb and restart! Does anyone now about this bug? Is this a Macromedia Freehand bug? On the local Mac-HD it work's! Thank's for you interesting. _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Thomas Nintemann + + Kleine Straße 5 + + 26892 Dörpen/Germany + + E-Mail: midiman@t-online.de + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 25 15:38:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA12328; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:38:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA12318; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:38:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA29342; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:38:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA29285 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:38:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from it.stlawu.edu (it.stlawu.edu [199.0.79.17]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA29242 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:38:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mosedore@localhost) by it.stlawu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06016; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:37:51 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:37:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael O. Sedore" To: Peter Pettersson cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] RE: Shadow passwords -- SOLVED In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970825202442.006a41d8@pinus.slu.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Peter, Thanks so much! Commenting out that #IFDEF SOLARIS did the trick. -Mike On Mon, 25 Aug 1997, Peter Pettersson wrote: > At 13:17 1997-08-25 -0400, Michael O. Sedore wrote: > > > >Gentlemen, ladies: > > > >I posted this a week ago to no avail, and I still have found no solution. > >There must be something I've just missed. Please pass along any wisdom > >that might push me toward a resolution. > > > >------------------------------------------------------- > > > >I've been trying for five hours now to get netatalk 1.4b2 to work with a > >Linux 2.0.30 shadowed password system. I can perfectly well access the > >server from non-passworded (test) accounts, but logging in to passworded > >accounts invariably generates "Your password is incorrect..." > > > >Netatalk compiles cleanly. I've searched the mail archives and FAQ's and > >web sites. I've added DEFS= -DSHADOWPW to my > >../netatalk/sys/linux/Makefile, and I've added -DSHADOW_PASSWORD to the > >list of CFLAGS in .../netatalk/etc/afpd/Makefile. > > > >-Mike > > The problem seems to be something with the flags and defines. I traced the > problem down to that the shadow parts in ../netatalk/etc/afpd/auth.c never > get compiled. After commenting out the #ifdef SOLARIS in the beginning of > that file it compiled correct and now works fine. > > /* #ifdef SOLARIS */ > #define SHADOWPW > /* #endif SOLARIS */ > > I hope this helps and that someone can find the right place to change. > > Peter Pettersson > Dep. of Crop Prod. Sci. > The Swedish Univ. Agric. Sci. > > From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 25 15:53:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA13100; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:53:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA13091; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:53:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA21293; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:53:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA20413 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:51:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beezer.med.miami.edu (root@beezer.med.miami.edu [129.171.143.105]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA19929 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:50:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beezer.med.miami.edu ([129.171.143.105]) by beezer.med.miami.edu with smtp (ident chris using rfc1413) id (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:47:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 15:47:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher C. Chimelis" X-Sender: chris@beezer.med.miami.edu To: Thomas Nintemann cc: Netatalk mailing list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Macromedia Freehand Problem In-Reply-To: <3401BE62.FBF0828@t-online.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 25 Aug 1997, Thomas Nintemann wrote: > 4. - Freehand 7.0 > load an old file and save it is O.K. > load the saveing file again: The Mac > throw a Bomb and restart! I tried this and it works fine for me (PM9600 System 7.5.5 with older AppleShare client software). I haven't tried it with my PM9500 running the 3.7 AppleShare client, but will try it shortly. By any chance do you have the ASCII translation enabled on your installation of netatalk? If so, that may be the source of your problem.... Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------ Christopher C. Chimelis chris@classnet.med.miami.edu Systems Supervisor Division of Biomedical Communications University of Miami School of Medicine --> finger chris@classnet.med.miami.edu for PGP public key <-- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 25 17:26:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA16547; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 17:26:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA16543; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 17:26:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA11656; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 17:26:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA11639 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 17:26:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cs.ucr.edu (mail.cs.ucr.edu [138.23.169.107]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA11626 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 17:26:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beavis.ben.net (ppp-207-104-66-9.rvsd01.pacbell.net [207.104.66.9]) by mail.cs.ucr.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA24102 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 14:30:30 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970825142606.0074bbe4@mail.cs.ucr.edu> X-Sender: bpayne@mail.cs.ucr.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 14:26:06 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Ben Payne Subject: [netatalk-admins] Mac OS 8 Fix... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, first of all I just subscribed to this list so I'm sorry if the answer was recently discussed. My question is, is there a fix to the problem of "dancing icon" with OS 8 clients. I'm currently running 1.3.3, does 1.4b2 not have this problem? Is there a patch to fix it, or is there a configuration you can change. Also, I've noticed latly, maybe since I upgraded to OS 8 that there is alot of traffic between my mac and the server when they are just idel. tcpdump show lines like these over and over again, about 250 lines (packets) every 5 seconds. Any ideas? 14:23:55.024122 21 > 0 at-lap#72 18 14:23:55.024122 0 > 21 at-lap#0 35 14:23:55.024122 0 > 41 at-lap#0 38 14:23:55.034122 87 > 2 at-lap#32 596 14:23:55.034122 23 > 2 at-lap#80 532 14:23:55.034122 0 > 21 at-lap#0 35 14:23:55.044122 0 > 91 at-lap#0 88 Thanks -> Ben Payne From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 25 18:01:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA19563; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 18:01:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA19550; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 18:01:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA22082; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 18:01:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA22057 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 18:01:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA22040 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 18:01:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA08642; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 23:01:17 +0100 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 23:01:16 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Ben Payne cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Mac OS 8 Fix... In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970825142606.0074bbe4@mail.cs.ucr.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The latest version of Adrian Sun's patch to Netatalk which adds AFP over TCP capability fixes this problem: ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/pub/user-supported/asun As for the heavy traffic, that is probably caused by the dancing icons and will go away when that is fixed. On Mon, 25 Aug 1997, Ben Payne wrote: > Hi, > > first of all I just subscribed to this list so I'm sorry if the answer was > recently discussed. > > My question is, is there a fix to the problem of "dancing icon" with OS 8 > clients. I'm currently running 1.3.3, does 1.4b2 not have this problem? > Is there a patch to fix it, or is there a configuration you can change. > > Also, I've noticed latly, maybe since I upgraded to OS 8 that there is alot > of traffic between my mac and the server when they are just idel. tcpdump > show lines like these over and over again, about 250 lines (packets) every > 5 seconds. Any ideas? > > 14:23:55.024122 21 > 0 at-lap#72 18 > 14:23:55.024122 0 > 21 at-lap#0 35 > 14:23:55.024122 0 > 41 at-lap#0 38 > 14:23:55.034122 87 > 2 at-lap#32 596 > 14:23:55.034122 23 > 2 at-lap#80 532 > 14:23:55.034122 0 > 21 at-lap#0 35 > 14:23:55.044122 0 > 91 at-lap#0 88 > > Thanks > > -> Ben Payne > -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 25 19:49:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA22703; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 19:49:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA22699; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 19:49:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA04906; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 19:49:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA04899 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 19:49:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailout00.btx.dtag.de (mailout00.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.148]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id TAA04892 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 19:49:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fwd00.btx.dtag.de ([194.25.2.160]) by mailout00.btx.dtag.de with smtp (S3.1.29.1) id ; Tue, 26 Aug 97 01:38 MET DST Received: from midihost (04963914193-0002(btxid)@[194.25.242.64]) by fwd00.btx.dtag.de with smtp (S3.1.29.1) id ; Tue, 26 Aug 97 01:38 MET DST Message-ID: <34021A9A.7FBA87D3@t-online.de> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 01:51:54 +0200 Organization: Musikhaus Nintemann X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Christopher C. Chimelis" CC: Netatalk mailing list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Macromedia Freehand Problem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sender: 04963914193-0002@t-online.de (, Nintemann) From: Midiman@t-online.de (Thomas Nintemann) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Christopher C. Chimelis wrote: > By any chance do you > have the ASCII translation enabled on your installation of netatalk? > If so, that may be the source of your problem.... I don't now that I have the ASCII translation enabled on my installation of netatalk. Where can I check this? Thank's -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Thomas Nintemann + + Kleine Straße 5 + + 26892 Dörpen/Germany + + E-Mail:midiman@t-online.de + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 25 19:54:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA22839; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 19:54:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA22834; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 19:54:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA05993; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 19:54:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA05987 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 19:54:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beezer.med.miami.edu (root@beezer.med.miami.edu [129.171.143.105]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA05972 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 19:54:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beezer.med.miami.edu ([129.171.143.105]) by beezer.med.miami.edu with smtp (ident chris using rfc1413) id (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Mon, 25 Aug 1997 19:52:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 19:52:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher C. Chimelis" X-Sender: chris@beezer.med.miami.edu To: Thomas Nintemann cc: Netatalk mailing list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Macromedia Freehand Problem In-Reply-To: <34021A9A.7FBA87D3@t-online.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Thomas Nintemann wrote: > I don't now that I have the ASCII translation enabled on my > installation of netatalk. > Where can I check this? It's a compile-time option I believe. I initially had the translation on which screwed up alot of things. Oh, one quick way to check is to copy a small binary to your shared volume and try to run it. If it doesn't run and gives you some strange error, then it's probably enabled. Chris From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 25 20:04:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA23652; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:04:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id UAA23645; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:03:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id UAA23643; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id UAA23634; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:03:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708260003.UAA23634@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Ben Payne cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Mac OS 8 Fix... In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 Aug 1997 14:26:06 PDT." <3.0.1.32.19970825142606.0074bbe4@mail.cs.ucr.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----- =_aaaaaaaaaa0" Content-ID: <23619.872553821.0@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:03:52 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <23619.872553821.1@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> > From: Ben Payne > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > My question is, is there a fix to the problem of "dancing icon" with OS 8 > clients. I'm currently running 1.3.3, does 1.4b2 not have this problem? > Is there a patch to fix it, or is there a configuration you can change. The attached patch to netatalk-1.4b2 fixes the "dancing icon" problem. :wes ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <23619.872553821.2@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Content-Description: extension/finderinfo bug *** etc/afpd/fork.c- 1997/08/17 00:01:46 --- etc/afpd/fork.c 1997/08/23 16:37:46 *************** *** 710,724 **** break; case FILPBIT_FINFO : ! if ( !isad || bcmp( ad_entry( &ofork->of_ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), ! ufinderi, 8 ) == 0 ) { bcopy( ufinderi, data, 32 ); - if (( em = getextmap( ofork->of_name )) != NULL ) { - bcopy( em->em_type, data, sizeof( em->em_type )); - bcopy( em->em_creator, data + 4, sizeof( em->em_creator )); - } } else { bcopy( ad_entry( &ofork->of_ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), data, 32 ); } data += 32; break; --- 718,732 ---- break; case FILPBIT_FINFO : ! if ( !isad ) { bcopy( ufinderi, data, 32 ); } else { bcopy( ad_entry( &ofork->of_ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), data, 32 ); + } + if ( bcmp( data, ufinderi, 8 ) == 0 && + ( em = getextmap( ofork->of_name )) != NULL ) { + bcopy( em->em_type, data, sizeof( em->em_type )); + bcopy( em->em_creator, data + 4, sizeof( em->em_creator )); } data += 32; break; *** etc/afpd/file.c- 1997/08/17 00:01:46 --- etc/afpd/file.c 1997/08/20 22:39:08 *************** *** 125,139 **** break; case FILPBIT_FINFO : ! if ( !isad || ! bcmp( ad_entry( &ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), ufinderi, 8 ) == 0 ) { bcopy( ufinderi, data, 32 ); - if (( em = getextmap( path )) != NULL ) { - bcopy( em->em_type, data, sizeof( em->em_type )); - bcopy( em->em_creator, data + 4, sizeof( em->em_creator )); - } } else { bcopy( ad_entry( &ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), data, 32 ); } data += 32; break; --- 125,139 ---- break; case FILPBIT_FINFO : ! if ( !isad ) { bcopy( ufinderi, data, 32 ); } else { bcopy( ad_entry( &ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), data, 32 ); + } + if ( bcmp( data, ufinderi, 8 ) == 0 && + ( em = getextmap( path )) != NULL ) { + bcopy( em->em_type, data, sizeof( em->em_type )); + bcopy( em->em_creator, data + 4, sizeof( em->em_creator )); } data += 32; break; ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0-- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 25 20:33:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA24832; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id UAA24828; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA26564; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:33:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA26562 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:33:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from KsuMail.Kennesaw.EDU (KsuMail.Kennesaw.EDU [130.218.100.25]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA26556 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:33:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [130.218.252.49] ([130.218.252.49]) by KsuMail.Kennesaw.EDU (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10191 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:32:50 -0400 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: "Gary C. Lewis" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Odd List Server Messages Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I suspect that this is a local configuration problem, but I need to confirm before I yell at anyone here. I've been receiving the list messages fine for the last month or so, but all the messages from the list today have given my system fits. Each of the messages starts with a header that looks like the one below. The problem is that everything after the "X-UIDL" line is treated as part of the text. This means that Eudora does not list a sender or a subject line. It looks like the header info is getting scrambled, since this info is usually at the end of the header. This could, of course be happening due to configuration problems on our mail gateway (they never tell me when they make major changes). I am using Mac Eudora Pro 3.1 All other incoming mail looks fine. Is anyone else seeing this? Thanks, Gary Problem header: +++++++++++ Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (1@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.164.2]) by KsuMail.Kennesaw.EDU (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA21919 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 13:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with SMTP Content-Type: text X-UIDL: 239d64fe047f45c00727cb3acd1fa898 id NAA06749; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 13:32:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (bulk_mailer v1.5+); Mon, 25 Aug 1997 13:17:40 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA06192; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 13:17:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA06187; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 13:17:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA19653; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 13:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA19640 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 13:17:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from it.stlawu.edu (mosedore@it.stlawu.edu [199.0.79.17]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA19627 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 13:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mosedore@localhost) by it.stlawu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA05134 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 13:17:16 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 13:17:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael O. Sedore" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Shadow passwords -- still unsolved Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 25 20:55:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA25585; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:55:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id UAA25580; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:55:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA17619; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:55:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA17611 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:55:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-out1.apple.com (mail-out1.apple.com [17.254.0.52]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA17603 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:55:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (c204500-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com [24.1.67.221]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA58644; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 17:55:10 -0700 Message-Id: <199708260055.RAA58644@mail-out1.apple.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Odd List Server Messages Date: Mon, 25 Aug 97 17:55:07 -0700 x-sender: zarzycki@pop.ricochet.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Dave Zarzycki To: cc: "Gary C. Lewis" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Is anyone else seeing this? Yes!!! I'm using Claris Emailer 2.0. Same story, worked fine for months, until this weekend. All other mail and mailing lists work fine. It appears to be a problem with this mail server if I understand the mail headers correctly: terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu davez ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Zarzycki Student Workgroup Server QA Tester San Jose State University Apple Computer, Inc. zarzycki@ricochet.net zarzycki@apple.com dave@zarzycki.ml.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP Fingerprints: DSS/Diffie-Hellman: CB9E 2621 B4BA 3F96 3516 B312 15B4 D842 3809 EF99 RSA: 8AF2 1040 8A9C D025 47BE 70DD A51C C887 Contact pgpkeys.mit.edu for my public keys. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 25 21:04:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA25938; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 21:04:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA25932; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 21:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA19476; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 21:04:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA19474 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 21:04:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from s5-25-55.student.washington.edu (S5-25-55.student.washington.edu [128.95.25.55]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id VAA19466 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 21:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from xyzzy@localhost) by s5-25-55.student.washington.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA00604; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 18:04:32 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 18:04:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Trent Piepho To: Netatalk mailing list Subject: [netatalk-admins] installing psf on Solaris 2.5 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm sorry if this isn't directly netatalk related, but I thought some people here must have had this same problem. We have a network with four suns running Solaris 2.5, and I want to move a laserwriter pro 630 from one of the sun's parallel port to use netatalk instead. I installed netatalk ok, and printing a file with pap seemed to work and was much faster. So now I've got to get lpr to use psf instead of sending the data to /dev/bpp0. This would probably be simple enough if our suns used /etc/printcap like all the docs talk about. But there is no /etc/printcap file! The sun docs tell how to install printers using admintool, which doesn't seem to have any concept of filters. The printer is either local and attached to some device or remote and speaks the BSD or SYSV protocol. There is no "print by calling this program" option. How do I go about configuring this type of printing enviroment to use netatalk? What's the term for this kind of setup anyway? |Gazing up to the breeze of the heavens \ on a quest, meaning, reason | |came to be, how it begun \ all alone in the family of the sun | |curiosity teasing everyone \ on our home, third stone from the sun. | |Trent Piepho (xyzzy@u.washington.edu) -- Metallica | From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Aug 25 22:12:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id WAA27479; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 22:12:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id WAA27467; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 22:12:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id WAA27460; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 22:12:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id WAA27447; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 22:12:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708260212.WAA27447@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: "Gary C. Lewis" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Odd List Server Messages In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:32:50 EDT." Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 22:11:59 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: "Gary C. Lewis" > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > It looks like the header info is getting scrambled, since this info is > usually at the end of the header. Sorry, it was on problem in terminator's sendmail.cf. It should be ok now. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 26 00:43:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id AAA08320; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 00:43:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id AAA08212; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 00:43:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA29377; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 00:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA29375 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 00:43:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (rb/Wa2BNIV3rv8euWKz6GMA69Qi52YLc@zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id AAA29370 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 00:43:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19514 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 21:43:05 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA19680; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 21:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 21:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708260443.VAA19680@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] read-only directories and missing .AppleDouble entries Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu i've been looking at the problem w/ copying files without corresponding .AppleDouble entries, and i don't think netatalk is at fault. as far as i can tell, the mac side is asking for both the data and resource forks and failing if it can't open the resource fork. ugh. needless to say, this screws up netatalk files that only have a data fork. the only workaround in netatalk i can think of prevents you from getting the right error if you're actually looking for a real resource fork. what a mess. fyi, this affects both 1.4b2 and my patches. something that would be interesting to know is whether or not this occurs under 7.x as well as os8 and if it occurs under appleshare clients < 3.7. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 26 00:58:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id AAA10123; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 00:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id AAA10110; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 00:58:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id AAA10098; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 00:58:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id AAA10085; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 00:58:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708260458.AAA10085@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: a sun cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] read-only directories and missing .AppleDouble entries In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 25 Aug 1997 21:43:14 PDT." <199708260443.VAA19680@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 00:58:18 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: a sun > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > i've been looking at the problem w/ copying files without > corresponding .AppleDouble entries, and i don't think netatalk is at > fault. I think I have this problem fixed. I sent the patch to Jay, who reported the problem. I figured I'd give him a chance to tell me if it works before I foist it on the rest of y'all. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 26 01:12:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id BAA10738; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 01:12:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id BAA10732; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 01:12:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id BAA10705; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 01:10:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id BAA10692; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 01:09:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708260509.BAA10692@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] new solaris kernel module Reply-To: netatalk@umich.edu From: wesley.craig@umich.edu Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 01:09:52 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm looking for some folks to try a new solaris kernel module. Please reply to this address if you're interested. Folks with MP suns are especially appreciated. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 26 05:42:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id FAA29258; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 05:42:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id FAA29253; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 05:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA24022; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 05:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA24020 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 05:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iq.pvv.ntnu.no (iq.pvv.ntnu.no [129.241.210.223]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id FAA24016 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 05:42:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ra.pvv.ntnu.no.pvv (ra.pvv.ntnu.no [129.241.210.205]) by iq.pvv.ntnu.no (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA23456 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 11:42:15 +0200 (METDST) Received: by ra.pvv.ntnu.no.pvv (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA24665; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 11:40:07 +0200 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 11:40:04 +0200 (MET DST) From: Tore Halset To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] more than one asun-afpd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have upgraded our freebsd server to asun's patch #14. I can not start more than one afpd even if I specify a difrent port-number. This was not a problem before asuns patch. What is wrong? - Tore. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 26 07:05:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA02308; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:05:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA02303; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA00288; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:05:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA00286 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:05:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailout05.btx.dtag.de (mailout05.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.153]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id HAA00282 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fwd01.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.161] by mailout05.btx.dtag.de with smtp id 0x3JQm-0005yZ-00; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:05:04 +0200 Received: from midihost (04963914193-0002(btxid)@[194.25.242.18]) by fwd01.btx.dtag.de with smtp (S3.1.29.1) id ; Tue, 26 Aug 97 13:05 MET DST Message-ID: <3402BB83.36FB238@t-online.de> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:18:27 +0200 Organization: Musikhaus Nintemann X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Christopher C. Chimelis" CC: Netatalk mailing list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Macromedia Freehand Problem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 04963914193-0002@t-online.de (, Nintemann) From: Midiman@t-online.de (Thomas Nintemann) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Christopher C. Chimelis wrote: > Oh, one quick way to check is to copy a > small binary to your shared volume and try to run it. If it doesn't run > and gives you some strange error, then it's probably enabled. Hi Chris I have run a small binary from my shared volume: It seems to be work fine. So I think that I haven't enabled the ASCII translation. Can it be that I have to edit the AppleVolumes.system for my use of Programms Fileendings? The default translation in my AppleVolumes.system look's like this: # . BINA UNIX #. TEXT UNIX Thomas From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 26 07:33:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA03199; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:33:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA03194; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:33:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA20333; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:33:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA20325 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:33:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de (dx4.pingnet.de [194.148.12.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA20308 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:33:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) id NAA18313; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:33:15 +0200 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:33:14 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Macromedia Freehand Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Oh, one quick way to check is to copy a > small binary to your shared volume and try to run it. If it doesn't run > and gives you some strange error, then it's probably enabled. This is WRONG. When the afpd recognizes the file as binary (with it's filetype), then it will be treated as binary. The true way to test: Copy a GIF or a JPEG onto the suspect netatalk machine. Delete the entry in .AppleDouble and remove .gif or .jpg extensions from the filename (in case you have corresponding entries in your AppleVolumes*). Then copy back the file to your harddisk or try to open it (with Graphicconverter e.g.). If it looks scrambled, you'll have to remove -DCRLF from the defines in etc/apfd/Makefile. make it new and install (you'll have to shut down afpd before). Afpd can no more recognize this File as binary, 'cause it has no way to determine (no .AppleDouble entry, no entry in AppleVolumes*) . So it defaults to text, one thing I'd be happy to see it changed to binary in futher releases. ;-) :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 26 07:51:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA03883; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:51:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA03878; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:51:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA06214; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:51:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA06206 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:51:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beezer.med.miami.edu (root@beezer.med.miami.edu [129.171.143.105]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA06202 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:51:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beezer.med.miami.edu ([129.171.143.105]) by beezer.med.miami.edu with smtp (ident chris using rfc1413) id (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:49:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 07:49:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher C. Chimelis" X-Sender: chris@beezer.med.miami.edu To: Thomas Nintemann cc: Netatalk mailing list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Macromedia Freehand Problem In-Reply-To: <3402BB83.36FB238@t-online.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Thomas Nintemann wrote: > I have run a small binary from my shared volume: It seems to be work > fine. > So I think that I haven't enabled the ASCII translation. Yeah, it sounds like the translation is disabled. You'd be surprised how many people have problems related to that, btw... > Can it be that I have to edit the AppleVolumes.system for my use of > Programms Fileendings? > The default translation in my AppleVolumes.system look's like this: > # > . BINA UNIX > #. TEXT UNIX You could probably go without any extension mapping since it doesn't look like you're really using it. I have a rather extensive set of extension maps on my system, but only because we share the same volumes between PC's and Macs. If you only need Macs to get to that shared volume, then you would only really need the mapping if you really wanted a specific translation. In short, I would try it without any extension mapping.... Let me know how it goes :) Chris From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 26 08:54:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA06533; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 08:54:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA06527; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 08:54:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA09866; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 08:54:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA09859 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 08:54:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beezer.med.miami.edu (beezer.med.miami.edu [129.171.143.105]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA09850 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 08:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beezer.med.miami.edu ([129.171.143.105]) by beezer.med.miami.edu with smtp (ident chris using rfc1413) id (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Tue, 26 Aug 1997 08:51:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 08:51:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher C. Chimelis" X-Sender: chris@beezer.med.miami.edu To: Patrik Schindler cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Macromedia Freehand Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, Patrik Schindler wrote: > This is WRONG. When the afpd recognizes the file as binary (with it's > filetype), then it will be treated as binary. > The true way to test: Hmmm....this is interesting since I had problems running binaries off of my shared volumes when I had the translation enabled. Then again, I'm no netatalk or Mac expert....just trying to help :P Chris From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 26 10:08:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA10119; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:08:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA10112; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:08:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA19281; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:08:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA19279 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:08:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id KAA19263 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:08:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29689; Tue, 26 Aug 97 15:08:44 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 15:08:41 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from sue (sue.tees) by scorch; Tue, 26 Aug 97 15:10:32 BST Date: Tue, 26 Aug 97 15:10:10 BST Message-Id: <4752.9708261410@sue> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Macromedia Freehand Problem Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folks, > > This is WRONG. When the afpd recognizes the file as binary (with it's > > filetype), then it will be treated as binary. > > The true way to test: > > Hmmm....this is interesting since I had problems running binaries off of > my shared volumes when I had the translation enabled. Then again, I'm no > netatalk or Mac expert....just trying to help :P I'm running 1.4b2+asun13, compiled straight from the box on SunOS 4.1.4 and I have successfully run word 6.0 from our unix box across the ether, worked first time. I simply dragged word to my unix account and then opened my account and double clicked on the word icon. later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 26 12:41:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA15439; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 12:41:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA15419; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 12:41:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA11342; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 12:41:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA11330 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 12:41:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailout05.btx.dtag.de (mailout05.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.153]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id MAA11310 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 12:41:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fwd01.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.161] by mailout05.btx.dtag.de with smtp id 0x3OZo-0003kL-00; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 18:34:44 +0200 Received: from midihost (04963914193-0002(btxid)@[194.25.3.2]) by fwd01.btx.dtag.de with smtp (S3.1.29.1) id ; Tue, 26 Aug 97 18:34 MET DST Message-ID: <340308B4.32B403C3@t-online.de> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 18:47:48 +0200 Organization: Musikhaus Nintemann X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Christopher C. Chimelis" CC: Netatalk mailing list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Macromedia Freehand Problem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 04963914193-0002@t-online.de (, Nintemann) From: Midiman@t-online.de (Thomas Nintemann) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Christopher C. Chimelis wrote: > In short, I would try it without any extension mapping.... > Let me know how it goes :) Hi, I have made the changes in etc/afpd/Makefile (comment out -DCRLF) and now erverything works great! (thanks Patrik Schindler) :-) I think that I need the extensions mapping because I share the volumes whit Samba and an PC whit Win95. Please let me now how it works whitout a extensions map. Now there are two little problems more... My Mac tells me that the free diskspace on the volume is only 1,5GB?? This can not be, because I have mounted an 9GB SCSI HD as Macvolume. I have heard that this is an Network-bug of the OS7.5.Is this so? What can I do to make the Mac show's the right information about free diskspace? Have anyone an idea how I can make a mirroring of my Mac shared volume? Thanks to all who interresting my problems whit netatalk. Thomas From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 26 13:05:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA16601; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:05:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA16587; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:05:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA07587; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:05:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA07580 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:05:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (TcROE97l3khpzCMT6+T/cJtzNYQqzDkS@zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA07564; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:05:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22302; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:05:02 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA20250; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 10:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708261705.KAA20250@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk@umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] a few memory/file leaks plugged Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu here's a patch against 1.4b2 that fixes a couple potential memory leaks. it'll be in my a15 patchset as well. as an aside, i noticed this when i ran afpd without atalkd and saw that it still had an open ddp socket. --- netatalk-1.4b2/libatalk/atp/atp_close.c.save Tue Aug 26 09:59:26 1997 +++ netatalk-1.4b2/libatalk/atp/atp_close.c Tue Aug 26 10:01:22 1997 @@ -42,9 +42,7 @@ print_bufuse( ah, "atp_close"); #endif EBUG - if ( close( ah->atph_socket ) < 0 ) { - return -1; - } + close( ah->atph_socket ); while ( ah->atph_queue != NULL ) { cq = ah->atph_queue; --- netatalk-1.4b2/libatalk/atp/atp_open.c.save Tue Aug 26 09:59:31 1997 +++ netatalk-1.4b2/libatalk/atp/atp_open.c Tue Aug 26 10:01:02 1997 @@ -46,6 +46,7 @@ } if (( atp = (ATP) alloc_buf()) == NULL ) { + close(s); return 0; } @@ -62,11 +63,15 @@ if ( bind( s, (struct sockaddr *) &atp->atph_saddr, sizeof( struct sockaddr_at )) != 0 ) { free_buf( (struct atp_buf *)atp ); + close(s); return NULL; } /* get the real address from the kernel */ nlen = sizeof( struct sockaddr_at); if ( getsockname( s, (struct sockaddr *) &atp->atph_saddr, &nlen ) != 0 ) { + free_buf( (struct atp_buf *)atp ); + close(s); + return NULL; } atp->atph_socket = s; --- netatalk-1.4b2/libatalk/asp/asp_close.c.save Tue Aug 26 09:58:41 1997 +++ netatalk-1.4b2/libatalk/asp/asp_close.c Tue Aug 26 09:59:18 1997 @@ -42,12 +42,8 @@ atpb.atp_sresiov = iov; atpb.atp_sresiovcnt = 1; - if ( atp_sresp( asp->asp_atp, &atpb ) < 0 ) { - return( -1 ); - } - if ( atp_close( asp->asp_atp ) < 0 ) { - return( -1 ); - } + atp_sresp( asp->asp_atp, &atpb ); + atp_close( asp->asp_atp ); free( asp ); return( 0 ); } From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 26 14:33:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA20273; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 14:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA20267; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 14:33:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA26956; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 14:33:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA26943 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 14:33:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA26931 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 14:33:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22908 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 11:33:20 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA20561; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 11:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 11:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708261833.LAA20561@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] truncate(): file too large problem fixed Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu well, i'm pretty sure i've fixed the above problem. it turns out that the *bsd systems were getting confused by a missing prototype. anyways, get pre-a15-4.tar.gz at ftp.u.washington.edu:/public/asun if you want to try it out. note: this doesn't fix the missing .AppleDouble entry problem. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 26 15:49:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA23403; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 15:49:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA23397; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 15:49:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA26650; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 15:49:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA26639 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 15:49:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zifi.genetics.utah.edu (zifi.genetics.utah.edu [155.100.229.31]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA26634 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 15:49:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from zinc@localhost) by zifi.genetics.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.6.9) id NAA17489; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:49:05 -0600 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:49:05 -0600 Message-Id: <199708261949.NAA17489@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> From: patrick finerty To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] specifying zones with nbplkup? X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid X-Face: &dh1aHu*v\s24A9~2qU[ln~;(Cz#X]d2r-@X>#j9U@vx!v8%IYU''n-H1D)}U(-0Te~ LD|Cyg6Gh-aFN{B*VSKhs}en{nXo3xkveE#BxR9 nbplkup ":LaserWriter" HP LaserJet 4Si:LaserWriter 58624.131:157 6110 hp4mp:LaserWriter 58624.129:157 Bass Lab HP LaserJet 4Si:LaserWriter 58624.130:156 6200_hp5m:LaserWriter 58624.136:157 5145 lwntx:LaserWriter 58624.102:138 LaserWriter II NTX:LaserWriter 58624.83:233 np1600:LaserWriter 58624.183:130 HP CopyJet:LaserWriter 58624.132:158 5145phaser200e:LaserWriter 58624.103:128 5200 hp4simx:LaserWriter 58624.145:157 5440_hp5m:LaserWriter 58624.134:157 LaserJet 5:LaserWriter 58624.139:157 ============================================================================== my machine is in the zone "Genetics Sixth Floor". the printer i would like to use is in "Genetics Seventh Floor". i have tried to specify the zone in these ways. no error is returned, but neither is any other information: nbplkup "Genetics Sixth Floor" nbplkup ":Genetics Sixth Floor" nbplkup ":LaserWriter:Genetics Sixth Floor" so, how do i do this? -pjf -- "There is only one aim in life and that is to live it." Karl Shapiro,(1959) from an essay on Henry Miller's Tropic of Cancer finger zinc-pgp@zifi.genetics.utah.edu for PGP key zifi runs Linux 2.0.30 http://zifi.genetics.utah.edu --pgp-sign-Multipart_Tue_Aug_26_13:48:03_1997-1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQCVAwUBNAMzL03Qo/lG0AH5AQEpvwQAnIZx623CmW+YSsW1X9he9q9I4uMMnjQg 4WTZ008qY4QL6MtGj52jz0PF10I7tHrS23jas45CCXnGCDUpgVf+dXKjZJyRv60X t0y+YRpfBpqerFaDxQAAM+DjgHl68Jgxdxcs0rTYbrqFAqWdLnWasjwZin43SKKh 3eJvxtpng60= =JUQM -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --pgp-sign-Multipart_Tue_Aug_26_13:48:03_1997-1-- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 26 16:05:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA25044; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:05:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA25034; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:05:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA18668; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:05:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA18653 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:05:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de (poc@dx4.pingnet.de [194.148.12.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA18560 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:05:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) id WAA20542; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 22:03:54 +0200 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 22:03:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: patrick finerty cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] specifying zones with nbplkup? In-Reply-To: <199708261949.NAA17489@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > i have tried to specify the zone in these ways. no error is returned, > but neither is any other information: > > nbplkup "Genetics Sixth Floor" > nbplkup ":Genetics Sixth Floor" > nbplkup ":LaserWriter:Genetics Sixth Floor" > > so, how do i do this? nbplkup :@ is the correct syntax. :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 26 16:05:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA25151; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:05:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA25086; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:05:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA03313; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:05:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA03306 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:05:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from s5-25-55.student.washington.edu (S5-25-55.student.washington.edu [128.95.25.55]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id QAA03295 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:05:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from xyzzy@localhost) by s5-25-55.student.washington.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA03312; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:05:33 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:05:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Trent Piepho To: Netatalk mailing list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] specifying zones with nbplkup? In-Reply-To: <199708261949.NAA17489@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, patrick finerty wrote: > nbplkup "Genetics Sixth Floor" > nbplkup ":Genetics Sixth Floor" > nbplkup ":LaserWriter:Genetics Sixth Floor" How about nbplkup ":LaserWriter@Genetic Sixth Floor" |Gazing up to the breeze of the heavens \ on a quest, meaning, reason | |came to be, how it begun \ all alone in the family of the sun | |curiosity teasing everyone \ on our home, third stone from the sun. | |Trent Piepho (xyzzy@u.washington.edu) -- Metallica | From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 26 16:23:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA27009; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:23:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA27004; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:23:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA25121; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:23:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA25087 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:23:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zifi.genetics.utah.edu (zifi.genetics.utah.edu [155.100.229.31]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA25050 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:23:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from zinc@localhost) by zifi.genetics.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.6.9) id OAA17612; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 14:23:23 -0600 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 14:23:23 -0600 Message-Id: <199708262023.OAA17612@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> From: patrick finerty To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] getzones error... X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid X-Face: &dh1aHu*v\s24A9~2qU[ln~;(Cz#X]d2r-@X>#j9U@vx!v8%IYU''n-H1D)}U(-0Te~ LD|Cyg6Gh-aFN{B*VSKhs}en{nXo3xkveE#BxR9 getzones atp_rresp: Connection timed out all of my atalk stuff works just fine other that. i'm currently running netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a13 -pjf -- "There is only one aim in life and that is to live it." Karl Shapiro,(1959) from an essay on Henry Miller's Tropic of Cancer finger zinc-pgp@zifi.genetics.utah.edu for PGP key zifi runs Linux 2.0.30 http://zifi.genetics.utah.edu --pgp-sign-Multipart_Tue_Aug_26_14:23:21_1997-1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQCVAwUBNAM7Ok3Qo/lG0AH5AQGicQQAst6N4sQ5RnwPENlCwBdeE1fyfqNaTB0y k/LTNX7UsljZsJbzS3QCBS3h/o6imGuhEhVh2WkGmHsvwbjC7VUszoA0QlHnW/B0 TNanynUbl90lEsW2xSdeCXeOBJe5yNF24xEYDNyqZtzbDOXJZqKyST+WEkzFtWOE BTsYkPYju3g= =TnYT -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --pgp-sign-Multipart_Tue_Aug_26_14:23:21_1997-1-- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 26 16:44:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA28284; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:44:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA28251; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:44:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA18496; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:44:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA18486 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:44:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA18471 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:44:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id NAA20124; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:44:12 -0700 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:44:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: John Barry -Technician cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Macromedia Freehand Problem In-Reply-To: <4752.9708261410@sue> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 26 Aug 1997, John Barry -Technician wrote: > Hi folks, [possable translation problems] > I'm running 1.4b2+asun13, compiled straight from the box on SunOS 4.1.4 > and I have successfully run word 6.0 from our unix box across the ether, > worked first time. I simply dragged word to my unix account and then > opened my account and double clicked on the word icon. > later This test isn't conclusive for two reasons. One, if things are set up right, APPL's should be treated as binary. More importantly, translation should be reversed when you read the file via netatalk. So the mac will always get back what it sent. Translation can only go wrong in one of two ways. One, if you care about the file under unix. Like GIF files going to a web server or files shared with PC's, say via samba. Files written but not read by netatalk. Another way is if the file is initially created as a file with one file type, and then later changed to another file type. So one translation'll happen on the way there, and another will happen on the way back. I bet something else's wrong. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 26 16:50:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA28823; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:50:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id QAA28806; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:50:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id QAA28799; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:50:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA28784; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:50:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708262050.QAA28784@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: patrick finerty cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] specifying zones with nbplkup? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:49:05 MDT." <199708261949.NAA17489@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:50:08 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: patrick finerty > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > so, how do i do this? man nbplkup gives see also nbp_name. man nbp_name gives the syntax. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 26 16:58:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA29508; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:58:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA29502; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:58:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA23502; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:58:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA23369 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:58:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zifi.genetics.utah.edu (zifi.genetics.utah.edu [155.100.229.31]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA22468 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:55:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from zinc@localhost) by zifi.genetics.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.6.9) id OAA17808; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 14:55:42 -0600 Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 14:55:42 -0600 Message-Id: <199708262055.OAA17808@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> From: patrick finerty To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] getzones error...SOLVED In-Reply-To: <199708262023.OAA17612@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> References: <199708262023.OAA17612@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid X-Face: &dh1aHu*v\s24A9~2qU[ln~;(Cz#X]d2r-@X>#j9U@vx!v8%IYU''n-H1D)}U(-0Te~ LD|Cyg6Gh-aFN{B*VSKhs}en{nXo3xkveE#BxR9 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA03270; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 18:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id SAA03266; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 18:28:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id SAA03193; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 18:27:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA03175; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 18:27:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708262227.SAA03175@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: patrick finerty cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] getzones error... In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 Aug 1997 14:23:23 MDT." <199708262023.OAA17612@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 18:27:08 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: patrick finerty > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > 2:15pm zinc-> getzones > atp_rresp: Connection timed out atalkd doesn't respond when there are no zones. You can tell if atalkd thinks there are zones by sending a SIGUSR1 to the process. It will create a file called /tmp/atalkd.debug. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 26 20:35:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA06418; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 20:35:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id UAA06414; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 20:35:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA02936; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 20:35:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA02862 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 20:35:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (root@fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA02737 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 20:34:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt2-21.HiWAAY.net [208.147.148.21]) by fly.HiWAAY.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA23768 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 19:34:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA15213 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 19:34:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199708270034.TAA15213@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: dkelly@hiwaay.net Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] specifying zones with nbplkup? In-reply-to: Message from wesley.craig@umich.edu of "Tue, 26 Aug 1997 16:50:08 EDT." <199708262050.QAA28784@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 19:34:41 -0500 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > From: patrick finerty > > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > > > so, how do i do this? > > man nbplkup gives see also nbp_name. man nbp_name gives the syntax. Yup. After chasing my tail, that's where I finally found the syntax. I think nbplkup(1) should have more detail. Maybe I'll touch it up and see if someone wants to add it to the distribution. I'd rather somebody else (who really knows what they are doing) do it. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Aug 26 22:12:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id WAA10268; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 22:12:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id WAA10261; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 22:12:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id WAA10243; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 22:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id WAA10213; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 22:10:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708270210.WAA10213@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: dkelly@hiwaay.net cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] specifying zones with nbplkup? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 26 Aug 1997 19:34:41 CDT." <199708270034.TAA15213@nospam.hiwaay.net> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 22:10:23 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: dkelly@hiwaay.net > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > I think nbplkup(1) should have more detail. It used to have all of the detail, but since papd, afpd, pap, aecho, and anything else for netatalk that's written correctly uses nbp_name() to do the parsing, I moved the detail there. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 27 06:11:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA09878; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 06:11:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA09874; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 06:11:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA23953; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 06:11:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA23840 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 06:10:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (colossus.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.202]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA23674 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 06:08:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [146.141.26.200] (macenroe1.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.200]) by colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA00816; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 12:09:57 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 12:10:57 +0200 To: asun@zoology.washington.ed, netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (John Ostrowick) Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: linux quotas problem Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu afp logins no longer work properly with my login system (but do work with the chooser), and yet i am doing nothing inordinately unconventional in my coding; before enabling quotas, the afp login thing works. In the syslog file, i see this (the symptom is the login freezes). I deduce therefore that either a. the afp thing cannot log in properly because it becomes a zombie AND cannot read the quotas file OR b. the afp thing is getting stuck because it's now zombified OR c. it's getting stuck because it's unable to read the quotas file does anyone know: is afpd supposed to read the quotas file? the readmes all say that it must be mode 600, so why is afpd trying to read it? here's the syslog: Aug 27 07:27:36 colossus afpd[2496]: setfilparams: ad_open quota.user: Permission denied Aug 27 07:27:36 colossus afpd[2496]: setfilparams: ad_open quotas: Permission denied Aug 27 07:28:18 colossus afpd[2496]: setfilparams: ad_open quota.group: Permission denied Aug 27 07:28:18 colossus afpd[2496]: setfilparams: ad_open quota.user: Permission denied Aug 27 07:28:18 colossus afpd[2496]: setfilparams: ad_open quotas: Permission denied Aug 27 07:28:28 colossus afpd[2496]: setfilparams: ad_open quota.group: is it trying to read the quotas or is it just trying to do something with appledouble? does netatalk 14b2 have quota support enabled by default? any ideas ? :-) TIA! ________________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand 1 Jan Smuts Ave, Johannesburg, South Africa. Senate House 1012 Phone: +27 11 716-3783 Fax: +27 11 339-3513 jon@cs.wits.ac.za jon@is.co.za My web page: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/more/jon/aboutme.html My ftp site: ftp://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za My listserv: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/listservs.html From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 27 13:30:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA24509; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:30:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA24505; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:30:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA09900; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:30:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA09878 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:30:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from schilling.ucdavis.edu (root@schilling.ucdavis.edu [128.120.8.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA09842 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:30:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from titanic.ucdavis.edu (blythe.ucdavis.edu [128.120.226.136]) by schilling.ucdavis.edu (8.8.7/UCD3.11.02) with ESMTP id KAA00356 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:30:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.120.226.137] (kazak.ucdavis.edu [128.120.226.137]) by titanic.ucdavis.edu (8.8.6/UCD3.10.9) with ESMTP id KAA20014 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:30:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: cckweiss@pop1.ucdavis.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:30:59 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Ken Weiss Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk for HPUX? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Has anyone ported netatalk to the HPUX platform? If so, might you be willing to share your experience? If not, does anyone know of an Appletalk services package for HPUX that allows for support of AFS volumes? --Ken --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ken Weiss krweiss@ucdavis.edu Distributed Computing Analysis & Support 916/752-5554 (voice) 2323 Academic Surge 916/752-9616 (fax) U.C. Davis Davis, CA 95616 http://dcas.ucdavis.edu/kenhome.html From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 27 13:39:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA24931; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:39:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA24919; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:38:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA13152; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:38:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA13099 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:38:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (IwSnGwtP1GUuKEkv6HRXDl48hpTnFWyq@zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA13021 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29456; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:38:22 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA22887; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 10:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708271738.KAA22887@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: linux quotas problem Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu afp logins no longer work properly with my login system (but do work with the chooser), and yet i am doing nothing inordinately unconventional in my coding; before enabling quotas, the afp login thing works. In the syslog file, i see this (the symptom is the login freezes). I deduce therefore that either what is this "afp login" thing? Aug 27 07:27:36 colossus afpd[2496]: setfilparams: ad_open quota.user: Permission denied Aug 27 07:27:36 colossus afpd[2496]: setfilparams: ad_open quotas: Permission denied Aug 27 07:28:18 colossus afpd[2496]: setfilparams: ad_open quota.group: Permission denied Aug 27 07:28:18 colossus afpd[2496]: setfilparams: ad_open quota.user: Permission denied Aug 27 07:28:18 colossus afpd[2496]: setfilparams: ad_open quotas: Permission denied Aug 27 07:28:28 colossus afpd[2496]: setfilparams: ad_open quota.group: you're being mislead by these messages. they're non-fatal and have nothing to do w/ quota support per se. from this, it looks like you've setup your netatalk to use directories that it can't write in. i bet you have a setup like the following: /home/quota.* /home/account in you're AppleVolumes.*, you have /home as the volume to be shared. i suspect that you're login thing is doing something unexpected. in my opinion, setting up specific "mac-only" directories to be shared works much better than just sharing everything. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 27 13:53:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA25796; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:53:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA25792; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:53:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA18572; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:53:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA18566 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:53:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beijing.itri.loyola.edu (mstone@beijing.itri.loyola.edu [144.126.176.216]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA18535; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:53:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mstone@localhost) by beijing.itri.loyola.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA05524; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:53:20 -0400 Message-ID: <19970827135320.54209@beijing.itri.loyola.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 13:53:20 -0400 From: Michael Stone To: wesley.craig@umich.edu Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] getzones error... References: <199708262023.OAA17612@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> <199708262227.SAA03175@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.83 In-Reply-To: <199708262227.SAA03175@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>; from wesley.craig@umich.edu on Tue, Aug 26, 1997 at 06:27:08PM -0400 X-Pgp-Fingerprint: 53 FF 38 00 E7 DD 0A 9C 84 52 84 C5 EE DF 7C 88 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Quoting wesley.craig@umich.edu (wesley.craig@umich.edu): > > From: patrick finerty > > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > > > 2:15pm zinc-> getzones > > atp_rresp: Connection timed out > > atalkd doesn't respond when there are no zones. You can tell if atalkd > thinks there are zones by sending a SIGUSR1 to the process. It will > create a file called /tmp/atalkd.debug. I've got this with 1.4b2: >cat atalkd.debug interface lo 0.0 2AC 0-0 xi interface eth0 13.241 2ACL 13-13 zxi 'East_Campus_Ethernet' gate 13.22 2 13-13 x 11-11 zxi 'Knott_Hall_Ethernet' 12-12 zxi 'Donnelly_Science_Ethernet' 14-14 zxi 'Md_Hall_Ethernet' 15-15 zxi 'Wynnewood_Gardens_Ethernet' 16-16 zxi 'Humanities_Ethernet' 17-17 zxi 'loy_lab_Ethernet' 18-18 zxi 'Jenkins_Hall_Ethernet' 19-19 zxi 'Knott_Hall_Clients' 165-165 zxi 'Beatty_Ethernet' 170-170 zxi 'College_Center_Ethernet' 185-185 zxi 'Guilford_Ethernet' 200-200 zxi 'Gardens_Ethernet' 254-254 zxi 'TestNet_Ethernet' 64000-64000 zxi 'Knott_Hall_Ethernet' 65000-65000 zxi 'Knott_Hall_Ethernet' >getzones atp_rresp: Connection timed out -- Michael Stone, Sysadmin, ITRI PGP: key 1024/76556F95 from mit keyserver, mstone@itri.loyola.edu finger, or email with "Subject: get pgp key" From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 27 15:04:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA27990; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:04:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA27986; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:04:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA15414; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:04:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA15410 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:04:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from motgate.mot.com (motgate.mot.com [129.188.136.100]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA15389; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:04:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mothost.mot.com (mothost.mot.com [129.188.137.101]) by motgate.mot.com (8.8.5/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id OAA20235; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 14:04:39 -0500 (CDT) Comments: ( Received on motgate.mot.com from client mothost.mot.com, sender damonc@ns223.comm.mot.com ) Received: from fl08dns1.comm.mot.com (fl08dns1.comm.mot.com [145.2.254.32]) by mothost.mot.com (8.8.5/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id OAA07858; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 14:04:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ns222.comm.mot.com (ns222.comm.mot.com [145.1.105.57]) by fl08dns1.comm.mot.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id PAA24719; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 15:06:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns223 by ns222.comm.mot.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA03963; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 14:02:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 14:04:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Damon Clark X-Sender: damonc@ns223 Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk - AppleVolumes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Apparently-To: Apparently-To: Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu To whom it may concern: How do you setup Netatalk to recognize Framemaker, Excel, and Power Point file extensions? Also, how do you set up users with passwords for specific volumes? From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 27 17:17:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA05480; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 17:17:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA05470; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 17:17:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA01734; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 17:17:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA01732 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 17:17:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from step.polymtl.ca (step.polymtl.ca [132.207.4.32]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA01723 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 17:17:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (pfeif@localhost) by step.polymtl.ca (8.8.6/8.6.10) with SMTP id RAA13867 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 17:13:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 17:13:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Marc Heckmann To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk-1.4b2+MacOS 7.6.1 problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all, I am running netatalk 1.4b2 on a redhat-4.1 Linux system using kernel version 2.0.30. The netatalk machine shows up in the chooser list everywhere, however on MacOS >= 7.6 (with opentransport 1.1.1 or 1.1.2) when I try to access it, it gives the following error: "No response from server". Everything works great with MacOS <= 7.6. It's on a straight forward single subnet network. Does anybody have any idea what may be causing this? Thank you in advance. Marc Heckmann From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 27 19:57:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA10055; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 19:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA10049; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 19:57:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA15602; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 19:58:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA15593 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 19:57:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from step.polymtl.ca (step.polymtl.ca [132.207.4.32]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA15587 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 19:57:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (pfeif@localhost) by step.polymtl.ca (8.8.6/8.6.10) with SMTP id TAA21881 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 19:54:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 19:54:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Marc Heckmann To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] automatic mounting of CD's Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all, Does anyone know of a way that CD's can be automatically mounted when their being accessed through netatalk such as can be done with samba using it's "preexec" option. Thanks in advance. Marc Heckmann From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 27 21:04:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA11521; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:04:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA11517; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:04:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA05680; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA05666 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MIT.EDU (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.28]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id VAA05657 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:04:53 -0400 (EDT) From: phils@MIT.EDU Received: from MIES.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA04079; Wed, 27 Aug 97 21:04:50 EDT Received: by mies.MIT.EDU (SMI-8.6/4.7) id VAA00507; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:04:50 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:04:50 -0400 Message-Id: <199708280104.VAA00507@mies.MIT.EDU> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] pre-a15-4_tar.gz and solaris Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, Looking over the recent mailing I'm hoping that Andy's latest release, pre-a15-4_tar.gz, might work with solaris 2.5.1. It certainly compiles much better than before with suncc. Alas, it fails to find the network interface and register itself. i.e. # sh atalk start starting appletalk daemons: \c atalkd: can't get interfaces, exiting. atalkd\c nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out Can't register mies:Workstation@* nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out Can't register mies:netatalk@* nbprgstr\c papd\c afpd\c . Atalkd.conf looks like this: le0 -phase 2 -net 8901-8910 -addr 8901.179 -zone "SAP" I'm relatively new to netatalk, so please pardon my lack of history in this subject. Thanks, Philip ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Philip Thompson | phils@mit.edu Computer Resource Lab., Rm 9-532 | 617-253-3535 (phone) MIT School of Architecture and Planning | 617-253-3625 (fax) 105 Massachusetts Avenue | Cambridge, MA 02139 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 27 21:24:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA13526; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:24:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA13520; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:24:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA05504; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:24:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA05502 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:24:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cnrmail.lbl.gov (buster.lbl.gov [131.243.65.29]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA05492 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:24:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.3.9.20] by cnrmail.lbl.gov with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2b3); Wed, 27 Aug 1997 18:24:13 -0700 X-Sender: wright@cnrmail.lbl.gov Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199708280104.VAA00507@mies.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 18:24:11 -0700 To: phils@MIT.EDU, netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Russ Wright Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] pre-a15-4_tar.gz and solaris Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu You probably didn't add the line to /usr/local/atalk/etc/atalkd.conf that specifies the network interface (le0 on many systems, hme0 on mine). That is noted in the README.SOLARIS file. Russ At 9:04 PM -0400 8/27/97, phils@MIT.EDU wrote: >Hi, > >Looking over the recent mailing I'm hoping that Andy's latest release, >pre-a15-4_tar.gz, might work with solaris 2.5.1. It certainly compiles >much better than before with suncc. Alas, it fails to find the >network interface and register itself. i.e. > ># sh atalk start >starting appletalk daemons: \c >atalkd: can't get interfaces, exiting. > atalkd\c >nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out >Can't register mies:Workstation@* >nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out >Can't register mies:netatalk@* > nbprgstr\c > papd\c > afpd\c >. > > >Atalkd.conf looks like this: >le0 -phase 2 -net 8901-8910 -addr 8901.179 -zone "SAP" > > >I'm relatively new to netatalk, so please pardon my lack of history >in this subject. > >Thanks, >Philip > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Philip Thompson | phils@mit.edu >Computer Resource Lab., Rm 9-532 | 617-253-3535 (phone) >MIT School of Architecture and Planning | 617-253-3625 (fax) >105 Massachusetts Avenue | >Cambridge, MA 02139 | >------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 27 21:47:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA14339; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:47:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA14335; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:47:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA10653; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:47:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA10649 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:47:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cartuja.jrc.es (cartuja.jrc.es [150.214.15.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA10631 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:47:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (agullo@localhost) by cartuja.jrc.es with SMTP id DAA00573; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:42:13 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:42:12 +0200 (MET DST) From: Gonzalo Garcia-Agullo To: Marc Heckmann cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk-1.4b2+MacOS 7.6.1 problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Marc Heckmann wrote: > Hi all, > > I am running netatalk 1.4b2 on a redhat-4.1 Linux system using > kernel version 2.0.30. The netatalk machine shows up in the chooser list > everywhere, however on MacOS >= 7.6 (with opentransport 1.1.1 or 1.1.2) > when I try to access it, it gives the following error: "No response from > server". Everything works great with MacOS <= 7.6. It's on a straight > forward single subnet network. Does anybody have any idea what may be > causing this? Thank you in advance. > > Marc Heckmann I get the same message from time to time. I'm running netatalk 1.4b2 on Debian/GNU Linux which shares printers and volumes between macos (7.5.x, 7.6.{0,1}) and PC (win 3.1, 95, nt) users. After a few days/weeks running successfully, the linux box is still in their choosers but users cannot log in ("No response from server"). In most cases, several afpd zombies appear and the linux shutdown/reboot is the only way to recover the netatalk functionality. I tried to track the scenario, and it seems that this strange behaviour takes place after several login failures and/or chooser time outs, but I'm not sure. Any ideas? Regards, ___________________________Gonzalo G. Agullo_________________________________ Joint Research Center/European Commission Universidad de Sevilla Institute of Prospective Technological Studies Fac Informatica, ofic 3.25 World Trade Center, E-41092 Isla de la Cartuja Av Reina Mercedes - E-41012 Email: Tel: +34 5 448 8362; Fax: 448 8339 Tel: +34 5 455 2791; Fax: 455 2759 http://www.jrc.es/ http://www.cs.us.es/ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 27 21:51:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA14618; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:51:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA14608; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:51:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA11823; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:51:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA11818 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:51:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cartuja.jrc.es (cartuja.jrc.es [150.214.15.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA11809 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:51:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (agullo@localhost) by cartuja.jrc.es with SMTP id DAA00584; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:46:43 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:46:43 +0200 (MET DST) From: Gonzalo Garcia-Agullo To: Marc Heckmann cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] automatic mounting of CD's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Marc Heckmann wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone know of a way that CD's can be automatically mounted > when their being accessed through netatalk such as can be done with samba > using it's "preexec" option. Thanks in advance. > > Marc Heckmann I don't know if netatalk cannot do it itself, but your unix box can -- via the automount daemon: as soon as any process tries to access any defined directory, the automounter will transparently mount that device, and will unmount it after any specified idle time. Depending on your unix flavour, you already have such feature in your OS as "amd" or "automountd", or you can install GNU amd yourself. Regards, ___________________________Gonzalo G. Agullo_________________________________ Joint Research Center/European Commission Universidad de Sevilla Institute of Prospective Technological Studies Fac Informatica, ofic 3.25 World Trade Center, E-41092 Isla de la Cartuja Av Reina Mercedes - E-41012 Email: Tel: +34 5 448 8362; Fax: 448 8339 Tel: +34 5 455 2791; Fax: 455 2759 http://www.jrc.es/ http://www.cs.us.es/ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 27 22:18:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id WAA15833; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:18:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id WAA15828; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:18:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA17636; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:18:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA17634 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:18:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alice.stimpy.com (alice.stimpy.com [208.211.184.17]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id WAA17608 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:18:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alice.stimpy.com (alice.stimpy.com [208.211.184.17]) by alice.stimpy.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA15129; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 19:13:00 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 19:12:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Walt Bigelow To: Gonzalo Garcia-Agullo cc: Marc Heckmann , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk-1.4b2+MacOS 7.6.1 problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 28 Aug 1997, Gonzalo Garcia-Agullo wrote: > On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Marc Heckmann wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I am running netatalk 1.4b2 on a redhat-4.1 Linux system using > > kernel version 2.0.30. The netatalk machine shows up in the chooser list > > everywhere, however on MacOS >= 7.6 (with opentransport 1.1.1 or 1.1.2) > > when I try to access it, it gives the following error: "No response from > > server". Everything works great with MacOS <= 7.6. It's on a straight > > forward single subnet network. Does anybody have any idea what may be > > causing this? Thank you in advance. > > > > Marc Heckmann > > I get the same message from time to time. I'm running netatalk 1.4b2 on > Debian/GNU Linux which shares printers and volumes between macos (7.5.x, > 7.6.{0,1}) and PC (win 3.1, 95, nt) users. > > After a few days/weeks running successfully, the linux box is still in > their choosers but users cannot log in ("No response from server"). In > most cases, several afpd zombies appear and the linux shutdown/reboot is > the only way to recover the netatalk functionality. > > I tried to track the scenario, and it seems that this strange behaviour > takes place after several login failures and/or chooser time outs, but I'm > not sure. > > Any ideas? Well, what I have found to work with my setup: Slackware Linux 2.0.30 (from the Slackware 96 rel) and netatalk 1.4b2 is the following... This only works if you have appletalk compiled as a module!!! Kill all atalk processes.. do a lsmod to make sure appletalk is nolonger being used. rmmod appletalk modprobe appletalk (or however you like to install modules) then run you /etc/rc.d/rc.atalk script again. This clears up the probelms and keeps me from having to reboot!!! Cheers, Walt _________________________ Walt Bigelow Engineer Varitel Video, San Francisco From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Aug 27 22:25:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id WAA16208; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:25:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id WAA16202; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:25:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA21951; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:25:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA21949 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:25:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (root@fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA21944; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 22:25:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (max4-99.HiWAAY.net [208.147.145.99]) by fly.HiWAAY.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA18836; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:25:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id VAA20931; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:25:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199708280225.VAA20931@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: wesley.craig@umich.edu cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: dkelly@hiwaay.net Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] specifying zones with nbplkup? In-reply-to: Message from wesley.craig@umich.edu of "Tue, 26 Aug 1997 22:10:23 EDT." <199708270210.WAA10213@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 21:25:25 -0500 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu wesley.craig@umich.edu replies: > > > From: dkelly@hiwaay.net > > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > > > I think nbplkup(1) should have more detail. > > It used to have all of the detail, but since papd, afpd, pap, aecho, > and anything else for netatalk that's written correctly uses nbp_name() > to do the parsing, I moved the detail there. I agree, the information is all there. But it was about a hair's width shy of being comprehesable on the first couple of reads. The example given shows great promise: EXAMPLE Find all devices of type LaserWriter in the local zone. example% nbplkup :LaserWriter Petoskey:LaserWriter 7942.129:218 Gloucester:LaserWriter 8200.188:186 Rahway:LaserWriter 7942.2:138 517 Center:LaserWriter 7942.2:132 ionia:LaserWriter 7942.2:136 Evil DEC from Hell:LaserWriter 7942.2:130 Hamtramck:LaserWriter 7942.2:134 Iron Mountain :LaserWriter 7942.128:250 example% but the addition of a couple of lines saying something like: nbplkup on a specific zone: example% nbplkup "@Bld 7" Search for LaserWriters on a specific zone: example% nbplkup ":LaserWriter@Bld 7" would go a long ways. And that's all I'm suggesting. No need for example output. I keep forgetting the command to list all zones. Might be good to add to SEE ALSO as I wonder about that when looking at the nbplkup page. Or is it nbplkup that lists all zones? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 28 01:56:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id BAA29130; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 01:56:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id BAA29120; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 01:56:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA29131; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 01:56:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA29129 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 01:56:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from servo.na3.seac.pf (root@wired.seac.pf [208.139.164.100]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id BAA29110 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 01:56:31 -0400 (EDT) From: paquet@seac.pf Received: from gibson.adm.seac.pf (gibson.adm.seac.pf [192.168.4.1]) by servo.na3.seac.pf (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA21283 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 19:56:13 -1000 Received: (from paquet@localhost) by gibson.adm.seac.pf (8.7.6/8.7.3) id TAA49294; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 19:56:12 -1000 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 19:56:12 -1000 Message-Id: <199708280556.TAA49294@gibson.adm.seac.pf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems with 1.4b2+asun2.0a15 on Linux X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ----- this is a re-post, it didn't seem to work the first time ----------- Hi fellow netatalkers, I'm using Netatalk 1.4b2+asun2.0a15 on a RedHat 4.2 (intel based) Linux box. I'm experiencing serious problems : - Some connections (wether AppleTalk based or IP based) happen to close unexpectedly. Here is what I find with syslog : via AppleTalk : Aug 22 08:40:32 lyloo afpd[2600]: session from 5.26:242 on 5.160:134 Aug 22 08:40:32 lyloo afpd[2600]: login lautelli (uid 821, gid 841) Aug 22 08:42:23 lyloo afpd[2600]: asp_cmdreply: Bad file number Aug 22 08:42:23 lyloo afpd[2600]: atp_sreq: Bad file number Aug 22 08:42:23 lyloo afpd[2600]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Bad file number Aug 22 08:42:23 lyloo afpd[328]: server_child[0] 2600 exited 1 via TCP/IP : Aug 26 08:34:17 lyloo afpd[7598]: ASIP session:548(2) from 192.168.4.36:2051(0) Aug 26 08:34:17 lyloo afpd[7598]: login lautelli (uid 821, gid 841) Aug 26 08:56:02 lyloo afpd[7598]: dsi_cmdreply: Bad file number Aug 26 08:56:02 lyloo afpd[328]: server_child[1] 7598 exited 1 - Child afpd don't die when the client Mac is rebooted or stopped - I can't kill and restart the netatalk processes. Here is what I get when I try to : Aug 26 11:43:07 lyloo afpd[8278]: Can't register lyloo:AFPServer@* Aug 26 11:43:07 lyloo afpd[8278]: ASIP started on 192.168.4.62:548(1) (1.4b2+asun2.0a15) Aug 26 11:43:17 lyloo afpd[8278]: Can't register lyloo:AFPServer@* Aug 26 11:43:17 lyloo afpd[8278]: main: dsi_init: Address already in use Aug 26 11:43:27 lyloo afpd[8278]: Can't register lyloo pour TA:AFPServer@* Aug 26 11:43:27 lyloo afpd[8278]: main: dsi_init: Address already in use Aug 26 11:43:38 lyloo afpd[8278]: Can't register lyloo:AFPServer@* Aug 26 11:43:38 lyloo afpd[8278]: main: dsi_init: Address already in use - I can't kill -HUP afpd : Aug 26 11:40:03 lyloo afpd[328]: disallowing logins Aug 26 11:40:05 lyloo afpd[328]: re-reading configuration file Aug 26 11:40:23 lyloo afpd[328]: Can't register lyloo:AFPServer@* Aug 26 11:40:23 lyloo afpd[328]: ASIP started on 192.168.4.62:548(2) (1.4b2+asun2.0a15) Aug 26 11:40:33 lyloo afpd[328]: Can't register lyloo:AFPServer@* Aug 26 11:40:33 lyloo afpd[328]: main: dsi_init: Address already in use Aug 26 11:40:43 lyloo afpd[328]: Can't register lyloo pour TA:AFPServer@* Aug 26 11:40:43 lyloo afpd[328]: main: dsi_init: Address already in use Aug 26 11:40:52 lyloo afpd[328]: Can't register lyloo:AFPServer@* Aug 26 11:40:52 lyloo afpd[328]: main: dsi_init: Address already in use Aug 26 11:40:52 lyloo afpd[328]: main: asp_getsession: Bad file number - Here is what I get at boot time : Aug 26 11:47:22 lyloo afpd[336]: lyloo:AFPServer@* started on 5.197:128 (1.4b2+asun2.0a15) Aug 26 11:47:22 lyloo afpd[336]: ASIP started on 192.168.4.62:548(2) (1.4b2+asun2.0a15) Aug 26 11:47:28 lyloo afpd[336]: lyloo:AFPServer@* started on 5.197:129 (1.4b2+asun2.0a15) Aug 26 11:47:28 lyloo afpd[336]: main: dsi_init: Address already in use Aug 26 11:47:34 lyloo afpd[336]: lyloo pour TA:AFPServer@* started on 5.197:130 (1.4b2+asun2.0a15) Aug 26 11:47:34 lyloo afpd[336]: main: dsi_init: Address already in use Aug 26 11:47:40 lyloo afpd[336]: lyloo:AFPServer@* started on 5.197:131 (1.4b2+asun2.0a15) Aug 26 11:47:40 lyloo afpd[336]: main: dsi_init: Address already in use - I often have Mac clients that freeze when connected to a Netatalk volume which is NFS-mounted on my Linux box (from an AIX box - BTW does Netatalk tun on AIX ?) Any help would be *GREATLY* appreciated (some of the users are not far from wanting to unscrew my head and play soccer with it...) Anyway, netatalk is a great tool. -- _ David PAQUET email : paquet@seac.pf __\ /\ System Coconut phone : +689 861214 / _\|__ fax : +689 861019 //o\\ \ | \\ Civil Aviation || TAHITI - French Polynesia ________________________________/ \ From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 28 03:39:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id DAA01255; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:39:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id DAA01251; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:39:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA07346; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA07344 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Tequila.MIDRAS.de (Tequila.MIDRAS.de [194.121.54.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id DAA07339 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:39:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: joh@194.121.54.2 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 09:35:25 +0200 To: Gonzalo Garcia-Agullo , Marc Heckmann From: Jochen Haeberle Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk-1.4b2+MacOS 7.6.1 problems Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 3:42 Uhr +0200 28-8-97, Gonzalo Garcia-Agullo wrote: ... > > I get the same message from time to time. I'm running netatalk 1.4b2 on > Debian/GNU Linux which shares printers and volumes between macos (7.5.x, > 7.6.{0,1}) and PC (win 3.1, 95, nt) users. > > After a few days/weeks running successfully, the linux box is still in > their choosers but users cannot log in ("No response from server"). In > most cases, several afpd zombies appear and the linux shutdown/reboot is > the only way to recover the netatalk functionality. > > I tried to track the scenario, and it seems that this strange behaviour > takes place after several login failures and/or chooser time outs, but I'm > not sure. > > Any ideas? I had this problem a while ago and found that it only happend when other atalk-routers went down. Defining the exact zone-addresses in the netatalk config solved the problem for me. cheers Jochen From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 28 03:59:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id DAA01786; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:59:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id DAA01782; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:59:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA11139; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:59:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA11137 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:59:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ibmmail.COM (ibmmail.com [204.146.168.193]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id DAA11133 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:59:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708280759.DAA11133@redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: huebenet@de.ibmmail.com Received: from de.ibmmail.com by ibmmail.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 3251; Thu, 28 Aug 97 03:59:38 EDT Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 03:59:32 EDT To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [netatalk-admins] Nothing in the chooser Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, I am running netatalk 1.3.3 on the latest release of Suse Linux. My problem is that i can't see the file server in the chooser on the Pulsar 1000 (mac clone). The atalk dameon is starting up fine. There are just these two machines conected. thank you in advance, Bernd Mit freundlichen Grusen with best regards Bernd Hubenett From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 28 13:33:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA27346; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 13:33:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA27339; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 13:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA14621; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 13:33:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA14619 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 13:33:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ivory.lm.com (ivory.lm.com [204.171.44.50]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA14602 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 13:33:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phluffy.lm.com (myke@phluffy.lm.com [204.171.44.47]) by ivory.lm.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA07873 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 13:33:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 13:39:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.lm.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] error -50 cannot write Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I just compiled netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a14 on a FreeBSD 2.2-970618-RELENG box. I can mount volumes and save files to them. However, when I drag a file into a networked folder it says "Error -50 Cannot write file". Any ideas or something I forgot to do? The LAN only has one Mac (running OS8) and the Unix box as far as AppleTalk goes. If I drag a folder the folder gets created but none of the individual files do. I used to have 1.4b2 running, although only for testing some things. - Mike From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 28 14:26:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA29505; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 14:26:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA29500; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 14:26:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA04636; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 14:26:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA04611 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 14:26:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from turing.cs.hmc.edu (turing.cs.hmc.edu [134.173.42.99]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA04571 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 14:26:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (quay@localhost) by turing.cs.hmc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA13283 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:26:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:26:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Quay Ly X-Sender: quay@turing To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk 1.4b2 causing network delay In-Reply-To: <199708280104.VAA00507@mies.MIT.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello. I'm running netatalk 1.4b2 on solaris2.5.1. I got netatalk up and running on our system. I would like to know if there's a newer version of netatalk? The reason being is that the netatalk causes alot of network traffic because it's trying to maintain the most current appearance within the folders on the Mac. Other applications running on the Macs are slowed down very noticeably. -quay@cs.hmc.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 28 14:38:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA00453; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 14:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA00445; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 14:38:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA13136; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 14:39:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA13108 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 14:38:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA13047 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 14:38:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02915 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:37:46 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA24470; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708281838.LAA24470@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] a15 patchset available Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu i've decided to make an "official" a15 available so that i can re-engineer the read/write routines for a16 as well as merge in various feature patches. anyways, this patch set fixes some, but not all, of the os8 interaction problems. it also plugs a few holes as well as deals w/ errors a little better. per a suggestion made by wes, i moved the multicast configuration in atalkd to a better place. now, if you have a network interface that doesn't support hardware multicast, atalkd will just skip it. as always, you can get it at ftp.u.washington.edu:/public/asun. tar'ed file: netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a15.tar.gz 1.4b2 -> a15: 1.4b2-2.0a15.diff.gz a14 -> a15: a14-a15.diff.gz -a (is for adrian) From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 28 15:47:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA03440; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:47:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA03436; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:47:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA09688; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:47:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA09663 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:47:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cre8tivegroup.com (abt6.bitwise.net [204.97.222.226]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id PAA09638 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:47:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.255.227.74] by mail.cre8tivegroup.com (SMTPD32-3.04) id A6853E3E02E8; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:50:29 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199708281838.LAA24470@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:46:01 -0400 (EDT) Organization: The Creative Group From: Patrick Gardella To: a sun Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] a15 patchset available Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Downloaded it (netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a15.tar.gz) and did make. And I got the following error: building profiled adoublelib building normal adoublelib gcc -p -DBSD4_4 -DTCPWRAP -O2 -I../../include -c dsi_tcp.c dsi_tcp.c:25: tcpd.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. Am I doing something wrong? Or is the file missing? I am on a FreeBSD 2.2.1 machine. Patrick On 28-Aug-97 a sun wrote: > >i've decided to make an "official" a15 available so that i can >re-engineer the read/write routines for a16 as well as merge in >various feature patches. anyways, this patch set fixes some, but not >all, of the os8 interaction problems. it also plugs a few holes as >well as deals w/ errors a little better. per a suggestion made by wes, >i moved the multicast configuration in atalkd to a better place. now, >if you have a network interface that doesn't support hardware >multicast, atalkd will just skip it. > >as always, you can get it at ftp.u.washington.edu:/public/asun. > >tar'ed file: netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a15.tar.gz >1.4b2 -> a15: 1.4b2-2.0a15.diff.gz >a14 -> a15: a14-a15.diff.gz > >-a (is for adrian) ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Patrick Gardella Date: 28-Aug-97 Time: 15:46:01 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 28 15:52:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA04008; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:52:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA04001; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:52:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA15885; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:53:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA15876 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:53:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ivory.lm.com (ivory.lm.com [204.171.44.50]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA15871 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:53:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phluffy.lm.com (myke@phluffy.lm.com [204.171.44.47]) by ivory.lm.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA04679; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:59:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.lm.com To: Patrick Gardella cc: a sun , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] a15 patchset available In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > And I got the following error: > building profiled adoublelib > building normal adoublelib > > gcc -p -DBSD4_4 -DTCPWRAP -O2 -I../../include -c dsi_tcp.c > dsi_tcp.c:25: tcpd.h: No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > Am I doing something wrong? Or is the file missing? > > I am on a FreeBSD 2.2.1 machine. I got this running a couple hours ago. I had to add /usr/local/include and /usr/local/lib in some of the makefiles. Also, there was a variable declaration missing in one of the routines in auth.c. Works much better (for me) than a14, however. - Mike From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 28 16:13:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA05085; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 16:13:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id QAA05081; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 16:13:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id QAA05067; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 16:12:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA04938; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 16:11:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708282011.QAA04938@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: a sun cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] a15 patchset available In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:38:25 PDT." <199708281838.LAA24470@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----- =_aaaaaaaaaa0" Content-ID: <4927.872799072.0@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 16:11:25 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <4927.872799072.1@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> > From: a sun > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > anyways, this patch set fixes some, but not > all, of the os8 interaction problems. Find attached the set of patches (thus far) for MacOS 8. It fixes everything that I've had reported so far, i.e. "dancing" in the finder, and failed finder copies when there's no AppleDouble header file. I've given these patches to a couple of people, but since I've not gotten any responses back, I'll no hold them any longer. :wes ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <4927.872799072.2@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Content-Description: MacOS 8 patches *** etc/afpd/file.c- 1997/08/17 00:01:46 --- etc/afpd/file.c 1997/08/20 22:39:08 *************** *** 125,139 **** break; case FILPBIT_FINFO : ! if ( !isad || ! bcmp( ad_entry( &ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), ufinderi, 8 ) == 0 ) { bcopy( ufinderi, data, 32 ); - if (( em = getextmap( path )) != NULL ) { - bcopy( em->em_type, data, sizeof( em->em_type )); - bcopy( em->em_creator, data + 4, sizeof( em->em_creator )); - } } else { bcopy( ad_entry( &ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), data, 32 ); } data += 32; break; --- 125,139 ---- break; case FILPBIT_FINFO : ! if ( !isad ) { bcopy( ufinderi, data, 32 ); } else { bcopy( ad_entry( &ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), data, 32 ); + } + if ( bcmp( data, ufinderi, 8 ) == 0 && + ( em = getextmap( path )) != NULL ) { + bcopy( em->em_type, data, sizeof( em->em_type )); + bcopy( em->em_creator, data + 4, sizeof( em->em_creator )); } data += 32; break; *** etc/afpd/fork.c- 1997/08/17 00:01:46 --- etc/afpd/fork.c 1997/08/26 03:50:24 *************** *** 95,108 **** if ( ad_open( mtoupath( path ), adflags, oflags, 0, &ofork->of_ad ) < 0 ) { ! if ( errno == ENOENT && adflags != ADFLAGS_HF ) { ad_close( &ofork->of_ad, adflags ); ! if ( ad_open( mtoupath( path ), ADFLAGS_DF, oflags, 0, ! &ofork->of_ad ) < 0 ) { ! ad_close( &ofork->of_ad, ADFLAGS_DF ); ! of_dealloc( ofork ); ! *rbuflen = 0; ! return( AFPERR_NOOBJ ); } } else { of_dealloc( ofork ); --- 95,110 ---- if ( ad_open( mtoupath( path ), adflags, oflags, 0, &ofork->of_ad ) < 0 ) { ! if ( errno == ENOENT ) { ad_close( &ofork->of_ad, adflags ); ! if ( adflags != ADFLAGS_HF ) { ! if ( ad_open( mtoupath( path ), ADFLAGS_DF, oflags, 0, ! &ofork->of_ad ) < 0 ) { ! ad_close( &ofork->of_ad, ADFLAGS_DF ); ! of_dealloc( ofork ); ! *rbuflen = 0; ! return( AFPERR_NOOBJ ); ! } } } else { of_dealloc( ofork ); *************** *** 171,176 **** --- 173,181 ---- lockfd = ad_dfileno( &ofork->of_ad ); } else { lockfd = ad_hfileno( &ofork->of_ad ); + if ( lockfd == -1 ) { + lockop = 0; + } } if ( lockop && flock( lockfd, lockop|LOCK_NB ) < 0 ) { ret = errno; *************** *** 318,325 **** if ( ad_dfileno( &ofork->of_ad ) != -1 ) { eid = ADEID_DFORK; ! } else { eid = ADEID_RFORK; } if ( reqcount < 0 ) { --- 323,333 ---- if ( ad_dfileno( &ofork->of_ad ) != -1 ) { eid = ADEID_DFORK; ! } else if ( ad_hfileno( &ofork->of_ad ) != -1 ) { eid = ADEID_RFORK; + } else { + *rbuflen = 0; + return( AFPERR_EOF ); } if ( reqcount < 0 ) { *************** *** 548,555 **** *rbuflen = 0; return( AFPERR_DFULL ); default : - syslog( LOG_ERR, "afp_write: ad_write: %m" ); *rbuflen = 0; return( AFPERR_PARAM ); } } --- 556,563 ---- *rbuflen = 0; return( AFPERR_DFULL ); default : *rbuflen = 0; + syslog( LOG_ERR, "afp_write: ad_write: %m" ); return( AFPERR_PARAM ); } } *************** *** 642,649 **** } if ( bitmap & ( 1<of_ad ) == -1 ) { ! if ( fstat( ad_hfileno( &ofork->of_ad ), &st ) < 0 ) { ! return( AFPERR_BITMAP ); } } else { if ( fstat( ad_dfileno( &ofork->of_ad ), &st ) < 0 ) { --- 650,657 ---- } if ( bitmap & ( 1<of_ad ) == -1 ) { ! if ( stat( mtoupath( ofork->of_name ), &st ) < 0 ) { ! return( AFPERR_NOOBJ ); } } else { if ( fstat( ad_dfileno( &ofork->of_ad ), &st ) < 0 ) { *************** *** 710,724 **** break; case FILPBIT_FINFO : ! if ( !isad || bcmp( ad_entry( &ofork->of_ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), ! ufinderi, 8 ) == 0 ) { bcopy( ufinderi, data, 32 ); - if (( em = getextmap( ofork->of_name )) != NULL ) { - bcopy( em->em_type, data, sizeof( em->em_type )); - bcopy( em->em_creator, data + 4, sizeof( em->em_creator )); - } } else { bcopy( ad_entry( &ofork->of_ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), data, 32 ); } data += 32; break; --- 718,732 ---- break; case FILPBIT_FINFO : ! if ( !isad ) { bcopy( ufinderi, data, 32 ); } else { bcopy( ad_entry( &ofork->of_ad, ADEID_FINDERI ), data, 32 ); + } + if ( bcmp( data, ufinderi, 8 ) == 0 && + ( em = getextmap( ofork->of_name )) != NULL ) { + bcopy( em->em_type, data, sizeof( em->em_type )); + bcopy( em->em_creator, data + 4, sizeof( em->em_creator )); } data += 32; break; ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0-- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 28 16:28:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA05935; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 16:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA05929; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 16:28:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA26777; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 16:28:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA26768 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 16:28:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ivory.lm.com (ivory.lm.com [204.171.44.50]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA26759 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 16:28:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phluffy.lm.com (myke@phluffy.lm.com [204.171.44.47]) by ivory.lm.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA11336 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 16:28:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 16:34:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.lm.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] extension translation Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Just installed a15. Things seem to mostly work but I cannot get extensions on my Unix files mapped to the Mac equivalents. I have the AppleVolumes.system file in /usr/local/etc, am I missing something? - Mike From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 28 16:30:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA06186; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 16:30:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA06171; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 16:30:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA01155; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 16:30:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA01143 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 16:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA01133 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 16:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03601; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 13:29:36 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA24742; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 13:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 13:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199708282030.NAA24742@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: patrick@cre8tivegroup.com CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from Patrick Gardella on Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:46:01 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] a15 patchset available Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu And I got the following error: building profiled adoublelib building normal adoublelib gcc -p -DBSD4_4 -DTCPWRAP -O2 -I../../include -c dsi_tcp.c dsi_tcp.c:25: tcpd.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. Am I doing something wrong? Or is the file missing? I am on a FreeBSD 2.2.1 machine. you're missing afpd.h. if you don't want to use tcp wrappers, go into sys/freebsd/Makefile and get rid of the -DTCPWRAP. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 28 17:54:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA09196; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 17:54:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id RAA09186; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 17:54:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id RAA09181; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 17:54:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA09172; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 17:54:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708282154.RAA09172@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Jay cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, asun@zoology.washington.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] a15 patchset available In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 Aug 1997 14:03:26 PDT." <199708282139.OAA00134@www.saratoga.award.com> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 17:54:33 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Jay > To: > 1) Are you coordinating Adrian Sun's patches with yours? > 2) Are you incorporating AppleShare IP support? We're planning to add AFP/TCP support to afpd, yes. It remains to be seen whether we'll use Adrian's patches, someone else's, or write it from scratch. There are several issues. First, we received four completely different implimentations of AFP/TCP. We'll need to look through all of the "candidates", picking and choosing the features. Second, Adrian's added a copyright. I can't just add his copyright to U of Michigan's code, without first going through the law office, etc. I'm not inclined to talk to lawyers just to add something as simple as AFP/TCP. Third, Adrian's added a lot more than just AFP/TCP support, all of which would need to be reviewed before integration. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Aug 28 21:11:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA13493; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 21:11:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA13489; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 21:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA19436; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 21:11:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA19434 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 21:11:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from servo.na3.seac.pf (wired.seac.pf [208.139.164.100]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA19408 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 21:11:11 -0400 (EDT) From: paquet@seac.pf Received: from gibson.adm.seac.pf (gibson.adm.seac.pf [192.168.4.1]) by servo.na3.seac.pf (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA20525 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:00:19 -1000 Received: (from paquet@localhost) by gibson.adm.seac.pf (8.7.6/8.7.3) id PAA35358; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:00:18 -1000 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 15:00:18 -1000 Message-Id: <199708290100.PAA35358@gibson.adm.seac.pf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] A. Sun's 2.0.30 kernel patch X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folks, is Adrian Sun's kernel patch for linux-2.0.30 going to be integrated into the official linux-2.0.31+ kernels ? Regards -- David From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 29 04:32:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id EAA00835; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 04:32:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id EAA00831; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 04:32:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA23856; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 04:33:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA23853 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 04:33:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from servo.na3.seac.pf (wired.seac.pf [208.139.164.100]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA23836 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 04:32:50 -0400 (EDT) From: paquet@seac.pf Received: from gibson.adm.seac.pf (gibson.adm.seac.pf [192.168.4.1]) by servo.na3.seac.pf (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA31601 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 22:32:28 -1000 Received: (from paquet@localhost) by gibson.adm.seac.pf (8.7.6/8.7.3) id WAA20878; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 22:32:27 -1000 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 22:32:27 -1000 Message-Id: <199708290832.WAA20878@gibson.adm.seac.pf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] PPD files needed by papd X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folks, the Adobe PPD fils are now located at : ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/printerdrivers/win/all/ppdlevel1 (get the filename.map file for a complete description) -- Divad From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 29 10:02:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA01136; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 10:02:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA01100; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 10:02:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA14012; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 10:02:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA13981 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 10:02:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cre8tivegroup.com (abt6.bitwise.net [204.97.222.226]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id KAA13963 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 10:02:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.255.227.77] by mail.cre8tivegroup.com (SMTPD32-3.04) id A71A6869034E; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 10:05:14 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 10:01:43 -0400 (EDT) Organization: The Creative Group From: Patrick Gardella To: Mike Holling Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] a15 patchset available Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, a sun Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Mike, What did you declare "p" to be in auth.c? It looked to be a char, but I want to make sure. Pat On 28-Aug-97 Mike Holling wrote: >> And I got the following error: >> building profiled adoublelib >> building normal adoublelib >> >> gcc -p -DBSD4_4 -DTCPWRAP -O2 -I../../include -c dsi_tcp.c >> dsi_tcp.c:25: tcpd.h: No such file or directory >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop. >> >> Am I doing something wrong? Or is the file missing? >> >> I am on a FreeBSD 2.2.1 machine. > >I got this running a couple hours ago. I had to add /usr/local/include >and /usr/local/lib in some of the makefiles. Also, there was a variable >declaration missing in one of the routines in auth.c. Works much better >(for me) than a14, however. > >- Mike ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Patrick Gardella Date: 29-Aug-97 Time: 10:01:43 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 29 11:59:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA18328; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 11:59:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA18324; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 11:59:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA00977; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 11:59:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA00956 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 11:59:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cre8tivegroup.com (abt6.bitwise.net [204.97.222.226]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id LAA00915 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 11:58:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.255.227.91] by mail.cre8tivegroup.com (SMTPD32-3.04) id A24A2B0120; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 12:01:14 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 11:43:54 -0400 (EDT) Organization: The Creative Group From: Patrick Gardella To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, asun@zoology.washington.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk1.4b2-asun2.0a15 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm trying to install netatalk1.4b2-asun2.0a15 on my FreeBSD 2.2.1 box. After removing -DTCPWRAP -lwrap from /sys/freebsd/Makefile and declaring "p" in auth.c to be a "char", it compiled and installed fine. It seems to be running fine: 172 ?? S 0:00.03 /usr/local/atalk/etc/atalkd 184 ?? I 0:00.04 /usr/local/atalk/etc/afpd However, it doesn't show up on my Mac (network 65280 node 109) or any of the others. I have AppleVolumes.system and AppleVolumes.default in /usr/local/atalk/etc On the Mac, I am running OpenTransport 1.1 and MacOS 7.5.5. The other Mac on the network show up. We do not have a router for AppleTalk. My atalkd.conf (which atalkd set up) is: lnc1 -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -addr 65280.213 Running netstat -rn gives me: AppleTalk: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire 0 0.0 U 0 13 lo0 => 0-32767 65280.213 U 0 0 lnc1 32768-49151 65280.213 U 0 0 lnc1 49152-57343 65280.213 U 0 0 lnc1 57344-61439 65280.213 U 0 0 lnc1 61440-63487 65280.213 U 0 0 lnc1 63488-64511 65280.213 U 0 0 lnc1 64512-65023 65280.213 U 0 0 lnc1 65024-65279 65280.213 U 0 0 lnc1 65280-65407 65280.213 U 1 9 lnc1 65280.213 0.0 UH 1 4 lo0 65408-65471 65280.213 U 0 0 lnc1 65472-65503 65280.213 U 0 0 lnc1 65504-65519 65280.213 U 0 0 lnc1 65520-65527 65280.213 U 0 0 lnc1 65528-65531 65280.213 U 0 0 lnc1 65532-65533 65280.213 U 0 0 lnc1 65534 65280.213 U 0 0 lnc1 Any help would be appreciated! Pat ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Patrick Gardella Date: 29-Aug-97 Time: 11:43:54 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 29 12:24:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA21426; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 12:24:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA21422; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 12:24:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA11961; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 12:24:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA11945 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 12:24:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ivory.lm.com (ivory.lm.com [204.171.44.50]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA11925 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 12:24:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phluffy.lm.com (myke@phluffy.lm.com [204.171.44.47]) by ivory.lm.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA29520; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 12:24:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 12:22:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.lm.com To: Patrick Gardella cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, a sun Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] a15 patchset available In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > What did you declare "p" to be in auth.c? It looked to be a char, > but I want to make sure. It's a char *: clrtxt_login(obj, ibuf, ibuflen, rbuf, rbuflen ) AFPObj *obj; char *ibuf, *rbuf; int ibuflen, *rbuflen; { struct passwd *pwd; int len; char *p; It's only used here: p = crypt( ibuf, pwd->pw_passwd ); if ( strcmp( p, pwd->pw_passwd ) == 0 ) { return( login( pwd->pw_name, pwd->pw_uid, pwd->pw_gid )); - Mike From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 29 16:50:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA06458; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 16:50:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA06450; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 16:50:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA01858; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 16:50:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA01832 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 16:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slacker.design.mindspring.net (slacker.design.mindspring.net [207.69.192.8]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA01805 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 16:50:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (pspierce@localhost) by slacker.design.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA05734 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 16:54:38 -0400 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 16:54:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Scott Pierce To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] .Appledouble Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu hello, I am looking for information on .AppleDouble and the other directories created. Specifically, I have file systems that are shared among roughly 5 people and the first person to mount the directory owns .AppleDouble and the other added directories causing all others that latter enter the directory to have insufficient permission to place files in these directories. The macs are all powermacs running OS8 and the server is running Linux 2.0.30. I also have a problem with the macs frequently freezing up. I discovered that atalkd.conf was not being written to at boot up due to permissions. I fixed this and am hopeful this has taken care of the crashing Macs. I did several other niceties this morning and all seemed better. Try as I might, I only found a few references to Macs crashing using Netatalk on the search engines, newsgroups and mailing list archive. Is this common to have the Macs freeze of is it rarely heard of? Patrick Scott Pierce pspierce@mindspring.com CGI Programming/Sys Admin From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 29 17:07:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA07440; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:07:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA07434; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:06:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA15999; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA15946 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from step.polymtl.ca (step.polymtl.ca [132.207.4.32]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA15874 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:07:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (pfeif@localhost) by step.polymtl.ca (8.8.6/8.6.10) with SMTP id RAA01785; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:03:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:03:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Marc Heckmann To: Jochen Haeberle cc: Gonzalo Garcia-Agullo , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk-1.4b2+MacOS 7.6.1 problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 28 Aug 1997, Jochen Haeberle wrote: > At 3:42 Uhr +0200 28-8-97, Gonzalo Garcia-Agullo wrote: > > ... > > > > I get the same message from time to time. I'm running netatalk 1.4b2 on > > Debian/GNU Linux which shares printers and volumes between macos (7.5.x, > > 7.6.{0,1}) and PC (win 3.1, 95, nt) users. > > > > After a few days/weeks running successfully, the linux box is still in > > their choosers but users cannot log in ("No response from server"). In > > most cases, several afpd zombies appear and the linux shutdown/reboot is > > the only way to recover the netatalk functionality. > > > > I tried to track the scenario, and it seems that this strange behaviour > > takes place after several login failures and/or chooser time outs, but I'm > > not sure. > > > > Any ideas? > > I had this problem a while ago and found that it only happend when other > atalk-routers went down. Defining the exact zone-addresses in the netatalk > config solved the problem for me. > > cheers > Jochen > > > > > Thanks a lot it worked :) MArc From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 29 17:07:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA07537; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:07:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA07523; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA15130; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:07:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA15093 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:07:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from step.polymtl.ca (pfeif@step.polymtl.ca [132.207.4.32]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA15051 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:07:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (pfeif@localhost) by step.polymtl.ca (8.8.6/8.6.10) with SMTP id RAA01806; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:04:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:04:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Marc Heckmann To: Walt Bigelow cc: Gonzalo Garcia-Agullo , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk-1.4b2+MacOS 7.6.1 problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Walt Bigelow wrote: > > > On Thu, 28 Aug 1997, Gonzalo Garcia-Agullo wrote: > > > On Wed, 27 Aug 1997, Marc Heckmann wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I am running netatalk 1.4b2 on a redhat-4.1 Linux system using > > > kernel version 2.0.30. The netatalk machine shows up in the chooser list > > > everywhere, however on MacOS >= 7.6 (with opentransport 1.1.1 or 1.1.2) > > > when I try to access it, it gives the following error: "No response from > > > server". Everything works great with MacOS <= 7.6. It's on a straight > > > forward single subnet network. Does anybody have any idea what may be > > > causing this? Thank you in advance. > > > > > > Marc Heckmann > > > > I get the same message from time to time. I'm running netatalk 1.4b2 on > > Debian/GNU Linux which shares printers and volumes between macos (7.5.x, > > 7.6.{0,1}) and PC (win 3.1, 95, nt) users. > > > > After a few days/weeks running successfully, the linux box is still in > > their choosers but users cannot log in ("No response from server"). In > > most cases, several afpd zombies appear and the linux shutdown/reboot is > > the only way to recover the netatalk functionality. > > > > I tried to track the scenario, and it seems that this strange behaviour > > takes place after several login failures and/or chooser time outs, but I'm > > not sure. > > > > Any ideas? > > Well, what I have found to work with my setup: Slackware Linux 2.0.30 > (from the Slackware 96 rel) and netatalk 1.4b2 is the following... > > This only works if you have appletalk compiled as a module!!! > > Kill all atalk processes.. > do a lsmod to make sure appletalk is nolonger being used. > > rmmod appletalk > > modprobe appletalk (or however you like to install modules) > > then run you /etc/rc.d/rc.atalk script again. > > This clears up the probelms and keeps me from having to reboot!!! > > Cheers, > Walt > > _________________________ > Walt Bigelow > Engineer > Varitel Video, San Francisco > Thanks a lot it worked :) MArc From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 29 17:30:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA10842; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:30:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA10837; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:30:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA06764; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:30:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA06715; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:30:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.144.15]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA06617; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:30:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from darius.concentric.net by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id QAA29571; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 16:22:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.119.90]) by darius.concentric.net (8.8.7/(97/08/22 5.5)) id QAA14958; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 16:22:12 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from ts013d10.sto-ca.concentric.net (ts013d10.sto-ca.concentric.net [207.155.176.70]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.8.7) id QAA02312; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 16:22:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ts013d10.sto-ca.concentric.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BCB47E.A77D0A80@ts013d10.sto-ca.concentric.net>; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 13:22:52 -0700 Message-ID: <01BCB47E.A77D0A80@ts013d10.sto-ca.concentric.net> From: Eric and Catherine Thompson To: "'netatalk-admins@umich.edu'" Subject: [netatalk-admins] sporadic copying Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 13:21:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Oh, by the way, I forgot to mention that the version of Slackware I'm using is the one = currently downloadable from sunsite, with kernel 2.0.30. I have not = installed any patches, etc., either to the kernel, or to netatalk (v. = 1.4b2). The cpu is an AMD K5, P133, and the hard disk is an ide, not a = scsi. As I mentioned before, this problem did not occur when I was = using Redhat 4.2, so I don't believe that hardware is the issue, or, at = least, that the problem is not solveable via software. TIA again, Eric Thompson eTc Computer Consultants duetc@msn.com ecthom@cris.com From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 29 17:35:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA11196; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:35:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA11191; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:34:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA06871; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:34:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA06827; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:34:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (0@runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.144.15]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA06690; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:34:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from darius.concentric.net by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id RAA15961; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.119.90]) by darius.concentric.net (8.8.7/(97/08/22 5.5)) id OAA13476; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 14:33:48 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from ts026d15.sto-ca.concentric.net (ts026d15.sto-ca.concentric.net [207.155.177.147]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.8.7) id OAA05879; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 14:33:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ts026d15.sto-ca.concentric.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BCB46F.838DA940@ts026d15.sto-ca.concentric.net>; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 11:34:30 -0700 Message-ID: <01BCB46F.838DA940@ts026d15.sto-ca.concentric.net> From: Eric and Catherine Thompson To: "'netatalk-admins@umich.edu'" Subject: [netatalk-admins] sporadic copying Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 11:32:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I recently built a Linux fileserver for a client of mine. I originally = installed Redhat 4.2 (recommended to me several times for ease of net = setup) with Netatalk 1.4b2. That system was mostly ok, except for one = big problem: it would periodically stop allowing connections. = Sometimes it would fix itself, but usually not. Since I'm an offsite = consultant, this is a really big problem, and I decided to try Slackware = (which I've always used myself, and tend to prefer). That seems to have = solved that one very big problem, but now I have another minor annoying = problem: When copying large folder of files from one place to another, either = from mac to server, or from place to place on the server, the copying is = sporadic. 2-5 files will copy very rapidly, and then the process will = "stick," waiting an eternity (a few long, painful seconds, anyway) = before continuing. The ultimate result is that moving files is = painfully slow. This did not occur with the Redhat installation. Is = there something I can tweak to alleviate this problem? TIA Eric Thompson eTc Computer Consultants DueTc@msn.com From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 29 17:35:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA11256; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:35:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA11215; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:35:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA10579; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:35:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA10532 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:35:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jots1.ca.metsci.com (jots1.ca.metsci.com [199.106.147.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id RAA10156 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 17:34:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tomcat.ca.metsci.com by jots1.ca.metsci.com with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA21213; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 14:34:36 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 14:32:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Solmssen To: Netatalk List Subject: [netatalk-admins] Samba, Netatalk, & LW II NT Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi - I have the following: PPro 200 running Red Hat 4.2, Samba 1.9.16p11, and netatalk 1.4b2. LaserWriter II NT connected via Dayna EtherPrint. Windows 95B workstation. The LWII is in /etc/printcap and uses pap/psf. It works fine from the Linux box. Samba exports the printer and I can connect to the share from my Win95 machine. I set up the priter as a LWIINT, and I can print fine, except that the burst page causes a postscript exception and prints an error. This doesn't happen from the Linux machine. I also don't seem to be able to turn off the burst page - i.e. an "sh" in the printcap does nothing. Any thoughts? ---- Andrew From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 29 18:31:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA14016; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 18:31:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA14012; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 18:31:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA23130; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 18:31:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA22940 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 18:31:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.144.15]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA22628 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 18:30:38 -0400 (EDT) From: paquet@seac.pf Received: from servo.na3.seac.pf by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA24831; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 12:31:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gibson.adm.seac.pf (gibson.adm.seac.pf [192.168.4.1]) by servo.na3.seac.pf (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id CAA07724 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 02:12:57 -1000 Received: (from paquet@localhost) by gibson.adm.seac.pf (8.7.6/8.7.3) id CAA43242; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 02:12:55 -1000 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 02:12:55 -1000 Message-Id: <199708291212.CAA43242@gibson.adm.seac.pf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems with 1.4b2+asun2.0a15 on Linux In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu 28 August 1997, 10:13:48 -0700 References: <199708280556.TAA49294@gibson.adm.seac.pf> <199708281713.KAA24305@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On 28 August 1997, a sun (asun@zoology.washington.edu) writes: > > umm, i take it you're running an unmodified 2.0.30 or something like > that. it looks like two things are happening: > 1) you killed atalkd at some time and restarted it. 2.0.30 and > earlier can't deal w/ that. > 2) you're forgetting to add in -port in your afpd.conf for > everything but the first entry. > > -a Thank you for answering me. I'v added the patch to my 2.0.30 kernel as well a -port option for the second server but I still get this : Aug 29 01:44:54 lyloo afpd[368]: re-reading configuration file Aug 29 01:45:00 lyloo afpd[368]: lyloo:AFPServer@* started on 5.65:128 (1.4b2+asun2.0a15) Aug 29 01:45:00 lyloo afpd[368]: ASIP started on 192.168.4.62:548(2) (1.4b2+asun2.0a15) Aug 29 01:45:06 lyloo afpd[368]: serveur lyloo:AFPServer@* started on 5.65:129 (1.4b2+asun2.0a15) Aug 29 01:45:06 lyloo afpd[368]: main: dsi_init: Address already in use Aug 29 01:45:12 lyloo afpd[368]: lyloo pour TA:AFPServer@* started on 5.65:130 (1.4b2+asun2.0a15) Aug 29 01:45:12 lyloo afpd[368]: ASIP started on 192.168.4.62:12000(7) (1.4b2+asun2.0a15) Aug 29 01:45:18 lyloo afpd[368]: lyloo:AFPServer@* started on 5.65:131 (1.4b2+asun2.0a15) Aug 29 01:45:18 lyloo afpd[368]: main: dsi_init: Address already in use here is my afpd.conf : "serveur lyloo" -transall -loginmesg "Bienvenue sur lyloo !" "lyloo pour TA" -transall -port 12000 -loginmesg "Bienvenue sur lyloo pour TA !" -defaultvol /usr/local/atalk/etc/AppleVolumes.ta A third server shows up in the Macs' chooser, it's the default one (its name is the hostname -ie- lyloo). How to bypass this default behaviour ? Is there a way to use the chooser to select a server but make the actual connection using the IP and port. (I mean, the users of my network wouldn't have to type lyloo:12000 in the dialog box) Last question, what's the use of the two nbprgstr calls in the rc scripts ? Thanks in advance. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 29 18:51:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA14831; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 18:51:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA14826; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 18:51:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA00669; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 18:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA00666 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 18:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wired.com (get.wired.com [204.62.131.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA00662 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 18:52:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (aarong@localhost) by wired.com (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA29046; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 15:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 15:51:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Aaron M. Gowatch" To: Andrew Solmssen cc: Netatalk List Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Samba, Netatalk, & LW II NT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 29 Aug 1997, Andrew Solmssen wrote: > PPro 200 running Red Hat 4.2, Samba 1.9.16p11, and netatalk 1.4b2. > LaserWriter II NT connected via Dayna EtherPrint. > Windows 95B workstation. > > The LWII is in /etc/printcap and uses pap/psf. It works fine from the > Linux box. Samba exports the printer and I can connect to the share from > my Win95 machine. I set up the priter as a LWIINT, and I can print fine, > except that the burst page causes a postscript exception and prints an > error. This doesn't happen from the Linux machine. I also don't seem to be > able to turn off the burst page - i.e. an "sh" in the printcap does > nothing. I had similar problems using a LaserWriter 16/600 PS. For some reason, the printer would throw an error when I used something like ofpaprev as opposed to ofpap. What does an entry in your /etc/printcap looks like? Aa. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Aug 29 19:26:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA16030; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 19:26:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA16024; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 19:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA04878; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 19:26:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA04875 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 19:26:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jots1.ca.metsci.com (jots1.ca.metsci.com [199.106.147.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id TAA04868 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 19:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tomcat.ca.metsci.com by jots1.ca.metsci.com with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA23464; Fri, 29 Aug 1997 16:26:42 -0700 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 16:24:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Solmssen To: Netatalk List Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Samba, Netatalk, & LW II NT In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu It's fairly simple - as below: bitboy-lw:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/bitboy-lw:\ :lp=/var/spool/lpd/bitboy-lw/null:\ :mx#0:\ :sh:\ :if=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filters/ifpap:\ :of=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filters/ofpap: Also - I had no problems printing directly from the linux machine - it was only going from a Win95 machine via a samba printer share to the linux box to the printer that I get this error. TIA... ---- Andrew On Fri, 29 Aug 1997, Aaron M. Gowatch wrote: > On Fri, 29 Aug 1997, Andrew Solmssen wrote: > > > PPro 200 running Red Hat 4.2, Samba 1.9.16p11, and netatalk 1.4b2. > > LaserWriter II NT connected via Dayna EtherPrint. > > Windows 95B workstation. > > > > The LWII is in /etc/printcap and uses pap/psf. It works fine from the > > Linux box. Samba exports the printer and I can connect to the share from > > my Win95 machine. I set up the priter as a LWIINT, and I can print fine, > > except that the burst page causes a postscript exception and prints an > > error. This doesn't happen from the Linux machine. I also don't seem to be > > able to turn off the burst page - i.e. an "sh" in the printcap does > > nothing. > > I had similar problems using a LaserWriter 16/600 PS. For some reason, > the printer would throw an error when I used something like ofpaprev as > opposed to ofpap. > > What does an entry in your /etc/printcap looks like? > > Aa. > > From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Aug 30 03:56:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id DAA00607; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 03:56:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id DAA00603; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 03:56:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA13940; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 03:56:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA13935 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 03:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at (root@germ2.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id DAA13926 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 03:56:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from buster.retti.at (internet@germ3.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.3]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.3/8.7.3 (l 3)) with ESMTP id JAA10650; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 09:56:04 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (m610.retti.at [192.168.0.13]) by buster.retti.at (8.8.3/8.8.3 (GR v 1.1)) with ESMTP id JAA19051; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 09:53:19 +0200 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 09:53:19 +0200 X-Sender: gregor@mail.retti.at Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Andrew Solmssen , Netatalk List From: Gregor Retti Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Samba, Netatalk, & LW II NT Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 16:24 Uhr -0700 29.08.1997, Andrew Solmssen wrote: >It's fairly simple - as below: > >bitboy-lw:\ > :sd=/var/spool/lpd/bitboy-lw:\ > :lp=/var/spool/lpd/bitboy-lw/null:\ > :mx#0:\ > :sh:\ > :if=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filters/ifpap:\ > :of=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filters/ofpap: > >Also - I had no problems printing directly from the linux machine - it was >only going from a Win95 machine via a samba printer share to the linux box >to the printer that I get this error. > I have fairly the same setup (slakware, netatalk 1.4b2, samba 1.9.16p2). Here ist my printcap entry for a dec 1152 laserwriter: laser:\ :sd=/usr/spool/lpd/laser:\ :lp=/dev/null:\ :lf=/var/adm/lpd-errs:\ :pl#63:pw#85:\ :sh:\ :of=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filters/ofpap:\ :if=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filters/ifpap:\ :tf=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filters/tfpap:\ :df=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filters/dfpap: and here is the entry for the laser in smb.conf [laser] comment = Digital DEClaser 1152 path = /tmp postscript = True printable = yes available = yes printer name = laser guest ok = yes printer driver = Digital DEClaser 1152 works fine for me greetings gregor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ---------------- http://germ2.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Aug 30 08:30:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA16210; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 08:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA16206; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 08:30:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA27349; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 08:30:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA27347 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 08:30:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id IAA27343 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 08:30:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18713; Sat, 30 Aug 97 13:30:32 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 13:30:29 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from sue (sue.tees) by scorch; Sat, 30 Aug 97 13:32:24 BST Date: Sat, 30 Aug 97 13:31:56 BST Message-Id: <7232.9708301231@sue> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] bounce? Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folks, Sorry if you got any bounced mail, but user ID's are being remapped system wide, which means that for a time I could neither send or recieve mail. appologies for any bouncers... later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Aug 30 21:08:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA00495; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 21:08:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA00491; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 21:08:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA04122; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 21:08:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA04118 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 21:08:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA04109 for ; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 21:08:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id SAA18078; Sat, 30 Aug 1997 18:08:29 -0700 Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 18:08:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: Eric and Catherine Thompson cc: "'netatalk-admins@umich.edu'" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] sporadic copying In-Reply-To: <01BCB46F.838DA940@ts026d15.sto-ca.concentric.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 29 Aug 1997, Eric and Catherine Thompson wrote: > I recently built a Linux fileserver for a client of mine. I originally > installed Redhat 4.2 (recommended to me several times for ease of net > setup) with Netatalk 1.4b2. That system was mostly ok, except for one > big problem: it would periodically stop allowing connections. > Sometimes it would fix itself, but usually not. Since I'm an offsite > consultant, this is a really big problem, and I decided to try Slackware > (which I've always used myself, and tend to prefer). That seems to have > solved that one very big problem, but now I have another minor annoying > problem: > > When copying large folder of files from one place to another, either > from mac to server, or from place to place on the server, the copying is > sporadic. 2-5 files will copy very rapidly, and then the process will > "stick," waiting an eternity (a few long, painful seconds, anyway) > before continuing. The ultimate result is that moving files is > painfully slow. This did not occur with the Redhat installation. Is > there something I can tweak to alleviate this problem? Is the problem basically that when the mac is writing to the server, it will occasionally hang? The problem might be that the Appletalk input buffer on the server's overflowing, and packets are getting dropped. The transfer will have to wait for that packet to timeout & be re-transmitted (which takes like 30 seconds). Last I asked about this, I heard that Linux sets this value fairly high (like 128 packets). But a fast mac and a loaded server might have the problem. I think the value lives in sys/netatalk/ddp_usrreq.c (that's where it is in *BSD versions). Under *BSD, it's ddp_recv. Go snooping around for this value. Under NetBSD it's set to 25*(587 + sizeof(sockaddr_at)) (basically 25*600) which holds 25 full packets. Try setting it at least that large if it's smaller, or try doubling it. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Aug 31 13:17:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA00812; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 13:17:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA00806; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 13:17:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA23156; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 13:18:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA23153 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 13:18:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sleipner.netcetera.dk (sleipner.netcetera.dk [193.227.198.180]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA23149 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 13:18:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [193.227.198.185] (loke.netcetera.dk [193.227.198.185]) by sleipner.netcetera.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA01191 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 19:16:03 +0200 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 19:17:46 +0200 From: Gustav Kristoffer Ek Reply-To: stoffer@netcetera.dk Subject: [netatalk-admins] Grayscale or color icons? To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have maked my own standardicons by editing the icon.h file, but I would like to make grayscale or color icons, what is the format for such icons? - gustav --------------------------------------------------------------------- Gustav Kristoffer Ek - Netcetera - Finsensvej 80 - 2000 Frederiksberg tlf 38 88 32 22 / 20 40 00 05 / 38 88 20 38 ext 341 - Fax 38 88 30 38 Webdesign, Webhotel, Mailhotel, UUCP og mere http://www.netcetera.dk/ From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Aug 31 18:48:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA04804; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 18:48:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA04795; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 18:47:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA02671; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 18:48:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA02668 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 18:48:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cs.columbia.edu (cs.columbia.edu [128.59.16.20]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA02655; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 18:48:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ground.cs.columbia.edu (dutta@ground.cs.columbia.edu [128.59.16.101]) by cs.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA04063; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 18:47:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (dutta@localhost) by ground.cs.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA01956; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 18:47:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708312247.SAA01956@ground.cs.columbia.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, netatalk@umich.edu Cc: dutta@ground.cs.columbia.edu, bm@ground.cs.columbia.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Forwarded message from "Ashutosh Dutta" sent on Aug 29, 1997. Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 18:47:46 -0400 From: Ashutosh Dutta Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Dear Netatalk gurus, The following is the log messages from one of our servers which is the atalk/pap server, this used to be connected to a hub connected to a cisco router, we moved it to a switched environment where the switch is now connected to one of the interfaces in cisco router which has appletalk enabled. This was working fine before it got moved to the switched environment, the things that changed in the servers are its network IP address, netmask, but it is still connected to the router though the switch, but to a different interface( it used to be on one subnet , but it is now in different one). This system is running solaris 2.5.1, it looks like the daemon atalkd is getting killed and thus we cannot see anything in any zones. Any pointer to what it could be which is causing this problem will be highly appreciated. Aug 29 20:07:19 dynamo.cs.columbia.edu atalkd[322]: rtmp_packet: can't remove loopback: No such file or directory Aug 29 20:07:27 dynamo.cs.columbia.edu papd[337]: No such printer: lp Aug 29 20:07:27 dynamo.cs.columbia.edu papd[337]: printcap problem: lp Aug 29 20:07:55 dynamo.cs.columbia.edu atalkd[322]: looproute panic two routes dyn% Thanks Ashutosh ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Aug 31 19:44:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA05977; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 19:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA05973; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 19:43:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA12611; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 19:43:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA12609 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 19:43:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (root@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA12604 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 1997 19:43:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA06293; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 00:43:44 +0100 Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 00:43:44 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Ashutosh Dutta cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, bm@ground.cs.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Forwarded message from "Ashutosh Dutta" sent on Aug 29, 1997. In-Reply-To: <199708312247.SAA01956@ground.cs.columbia.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Try moving your atalkd.conf file somewhere safe where netatalk won't find it. That will put atalkd into discovery mode and it should create a new atalkd.conf file with the correct information for your network. On Sun, 31 Aug 1997, Ashutosh Dutta wrote: > > Dear Netatalk gurus, > > > The following is the log messages from one of our servers which is the > atalk/pap server, this used to be connected to a hub connected to a > cisco router, we moved it to a switched environment where the switch > is now connected to one of the interfaces in cisco router which has > appletalk enabled. This was working fine before it got moved to the > switched environment, the things that changed in the servers are its > network IP address, netmask, but it is still connected to the router > though the switch, but to a different interface( it used to be on one > subnet , but it is now in different one). This system is running > solaris 2.5.1, it looks like the daemon atalkd is getting killed and > thus we cannot see anything in any zones. Any pointer to what it could > be which is causing this problem will be highly appreciated. > > > Aug 29 20:07:19 dynamo.cs.columbia.edu atalkd[322]: rtmp_packet: can't remove loopback: No such file or directory > Aug 29 20:07:27 dynamo.cs.columbia.edu papd[337]: No such printer: lp > Aug 29 20:07:27 dynamo.cs.columbia.edu papd[337]: printcap problem: lp > Aug 29 20:07:55 dynamo.cs.columbia.edu atalkd[322]: looproute panic two routes > dyn% > > > Thanks > Ashutosh > > > ------- End of Forwarded Message > -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Sep 1 07:50:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA06596; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 07:50:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA06587; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 07:50:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA24589; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 07:50:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA24587 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 07:50:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cs.columbia.edu (cs.columbia.edu [128.59.16.20]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA24578 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 07:50:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dubuffet.cs.columbia.edu (dubuffet.cs.columbia.edu [128.59.21.7]) by cs.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA02170; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 07:50:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (bm@localhost) by dubuffet.cs.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA13036; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 07:50:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 07:50:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Blair MacIntyre To: Alistair Riddell cc: Ashutosh Dutta , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Forwarded message from "Ashutosh Dutta" sent on Aug 29, 1997. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Windows: Some voids are better left unfilled. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 1 Sep 1997, Alistair Riddell wrote: > Try moving your atalkd.conf file somewhere safe where netatalk won't find > it. That will put atalkd into discovery mode and it should create a new > atalkd.conf file with the correct information for your network. That was the first thing I tried. I get different information in the atalkd.conf file, but it still doesn't work. (I'm having the same problems as Ashutosh, in the same department, but I'm using a linux box). I can see the linux box from the macs in the chooser, but I (obviously) can't make any connections because none of the other daemons are running. My NT server seems to be exporting things fine. When rc.atalk runs, atalkd take a long time to start, and then gives an error and none of the other appletalk deamons run. It then repeats, every few seconds, these messages: config for no router rtmp_packet router has become available zip_getnetinfo for eth0 [repeat the last one 6 times, then repeat the whole sequence] From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Sep 1 14:38:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA13465; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 14:38:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA13461; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 14:38:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA27395; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 14:38:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA27393 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 14:38:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.matav.hu (castor.matav.net [145.236.224.250]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id OAA27363 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 14:38:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28852 invoked from network); 1 Sep 1997 20:38:24 +0200 Received: from line-210-222.dial.matav.net (HELO incze.matav.hu) (incze@145.236.210.222) by mail.matav.hu with SMTP; 1 Sep 1997 20:38:24 +0200 Received: (from incze@localhost) by incze.matav.hu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA00639 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Mon, 1 Sep 1997 20:37:28 +0200 From: Red Hat Linux User Message-Id: <199709011837.UAA00639@incze.matav.hu> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Alias handling To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Mon, 1 Sep 1997 20:37:27 +0200 (MET DST) Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am not familiar inner things of MacOS, but followed the discussion on the aliases and their properties. I have an idea, that can solve many problems fairly easily. Let's suppose, we have a directory at the root of the AFP volume, say ".AppleAliases". We use the clock (current time) as an ID factory, thus the ID will be unique. When an alias is set up, we (in the base case): 1) get the ID of the file named 2) mv /.AppleAliases/ 3) ln -s /.AppleAliases/ At the first step we should check whether the file had an ID or not. If it had, we should not fabricate a new ID but give back the original one. With this solution the ID generation is simple, the file I/O by ID is fast, recovering the "original file" from the ID is not too slow (i.e. getting the symlink that replaced the original file), and the all thing is invariant against moving the symlink file around the volume. OK. There can be many details I have not even heard about. Sorry, if this was discussed before. Incze From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 2 09:23:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA12069; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:23:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA12062; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:23:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA28979; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:23:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA28958 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:23:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id JAA28921 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:23:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01358; Tue, 2 Sep 97 14:23:15 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 14:23:12 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from hector (hector.tees) by scorch; Tue, 2 Sep 97 14:25:08 BST Date: Tue, 2 Sep 97 14:24:53 BST Message-Id: <1259.9709021324@hector> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] two port problem Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've just compiled up netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a15, and apart from a little glitch with the des library it worked out just fine. However, I'm having problems getting it to run properly on a SPARC station 2 with 2 network cards. in 'discovery' mode I get an atalkd.conf like this: le0 -phase 2 -net 65280-65534 -addr 65280.32 le1 -phase 2 -net 65280-65534 -addr 0.0 and then I get this: + etc/rc.atalk loading netatalk: module loaded; id = 2 starting appletalk daemons: atalkdnbp_rgstr: Connection timed out Can't register hector:Workstation@* nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out Can't register hector:netatalk@* nbprgstretc/rc.atalk: 987 Memory fault papd afpd. (I got that from sh -x , but at boot I get much the same thing.) I'm vaguely worried about le1 having an address of 0.0 Ideas? later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 2 09:30:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA12370; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:30:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA12358; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:30:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA03387; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:30:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA03384 for netatalk.administrators-members@itd.umich.edu; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:30:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from solair1.inter.NL.net (solair1.inter.NL.net [193.78.240.13]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id JAA03367 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 09:30:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [193.172.45.2] by solair1.inter.NL.net (5.65b/solair1.Inter.NL.net-1.31) id AA22327; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 15:29:59 +0200 Message-Id: <340C314C.D9BD62AF@gelderlander.nl> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 15:31:30 +0000 From: Peter Jakobs X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@itd.umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Can't start atalkd X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm running RedHat Linux 2.1.24 on PPC 8500/180 en 7300/166. I've tried Netatalk 1.3.3 en 1.4b2, but always when I trie to start the atald deamon I get the message: Appletalk not up! Child exited with 1. in de /var/log/messages I get: atalkd zip_getnetinfo for eth0 atalkd zip_getnetinfo sendto: Operation not permitted any ideas? Peter Jakobs From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 2 10:42:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA15179; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 10:42:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA15172; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 10:42:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA09277; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 10:42:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA09273 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 10:42:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id KAA09266 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 10:42:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01707; Tue, 2 Sep 97 15:42:16 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 15:42:13 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from hector (hector.tees) by scorch; Tue, 2 Sep 97 15:44:10 BST Date: Tue, 2 Sep 97 15:43:55 BST Message-Id: <1034.9709021443@hector> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] new problem Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folks, I have a new problem, I edited atalkd.conf, so now it's only trying to bind to one interface (le1) thusly: le1 -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -addr 65280.240 I still get a memory fault on nbprgstr from rc.atalk but it's non specific, it doesn't tell me what it's having problems registering. I also get a dsi complaint once all the daemons are up. with nbplkup I get the following: hector:AFPServer 65280.240:130 Home & Intranet server:AFPServer 65280.240:129 Application server:AFPServer 65280.240:128 hector:netatalk 65280.240:4 hector:Workstation 65280.240:4 The problem is that they don't show up in the chooser, and if I connect directly to the IP address, then it connects me to "Application server" rather than giving me a list of what's available. When I connect to "Application server" everything works fine, I get the choices I should get, it mounts the right directory and appears on the desktop etc. I just don't understand why nothing appears in the chooser, no AFP Servers, no Printers, nothing. Ideas? later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 2 11:18:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA17292; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 11:18:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA17285; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 11:18:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA02256; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 11:18:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA02190 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 11:18:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at (root@germ2.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA02139 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 11:18:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from buster.retti.at (internet@germ3.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.3]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.3/8.7.3 (l 3)) with ESMTP id RAA03576; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 17:18:21 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (m610.retti.at [192.168.0.13]) by buster.retti.at (8.8.3/8.8.3 (GR v 1.1)) with ESMTP id RAA22888; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 17:15:51 +0200 Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 17:15:51 +0200 X-Sender: gregor@mail.retti.at Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1259.9709021324@hector> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk, netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Gregor Retti Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] two port problem Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 14:24 Uhr +0100 02.09.1997, John Barry -Technician wrote: >I've just compiled up netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a15, and apart from a little >glitch >with the des library it worked out just fine. >However, I'm having problems getting it to run properly on a SPARC station 2 >with 2 network cards. >in 'discovery' mode I get an atalkd.conf like this: > >le0 -phase 2 -net 65280-65534 -addr 65280.32 >le1 -phase 2 -net 65280-65534 -addr 0.0 > what is connected to the ports? the net 65280-65534 information must come somewhere from - most proberably a router. but what about le1? if your sparc is to connect this segment to the rest of the net, you have to provide some seed-information. I think, that is where the 0.0 comes from ... greetings gregor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ---------------- http://germ2.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 2 15:24:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA14564; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 15:24:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA14545; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 15:24:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA07126; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 15:25:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA07065 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 15:24:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from step.polymtl.ca (step.polymtl.ca [132.207.4.32]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA07019 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 15:24:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (pfeif@localhost) by step.polymtl.ca (8.8.6/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA19506 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 15:21:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 15:21:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Marc Heckmann To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk CDROM server problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all, I`m trying to setup a RedHat Linux 4.1 machine as a CDROM server for Mac's using netatalk. The macs can see the CD's and access them, except that when try to access a file I get the massage "Cannot associate application to file type" or a similar message. The CD's I am using are Macintosh HFS CD's (mounted using the HFS kernel module). Does anyone know the solution to this or how to get around this problem. Thanks in advance. Marc Heckmann From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 2 17:57:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA24657; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 17:57:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA24653; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 17:56:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA11114; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 17:57:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA11102 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 17:56:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wired.com (get.wired.com [204.62.131.5]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA11072 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 17:56:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (aarong@localhost) by wired.com (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA06674; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 14:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 14:56:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Aaron M. Gowatch" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Group permissions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm running netatalk-1.4b2 under Linux 2.0.30. Netatalk doesnt appear to be recognizing the various groups that a given user is in. For instance, if a users primary group was 'staff' and the user was also in the group 'edit', a file or directory writable by the group 'edit' is not writable by the user. Is there any reason a users groups would not would not be honored by Netatalk? Aa. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 3 02:35:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id CAA07048; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 02:35:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id CAA07044; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 02:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA02949; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 02:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA02946 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 02:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id CAA02942 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 02:35:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA29350; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 23:32:10 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA00341; Tue, 2 Sep 1997 23:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 23:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199709030635.XAA00341@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <1259.9709021324@hector> (message from John Barry -Technician on Tue, 2 Sep 97 14:24:53 BST) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] two port problem Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu sigh. please don't use a15. i screwed up, and it doesn't do things the right way in a couple cases. i'll make a new patch available which should do a better job. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 3 02:47:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id CAA07516; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 02:47:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id CAA07512; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 02:47:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA04560; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 02:47:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA04558 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 02:47:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at (germ2.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id CAA04554 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 02:47:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from buster.retti.at (internet@germ3.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.3]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.3/8.7.3 (l 3)) with ESMTP id IAA07801; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:47:21 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (m610.retti.at [192.168.0.13]) by buster.retti.at (8.8.3/8.8.3 (GR v 1.1)) with ESMTP id IAA23537; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:44:58 +0200 Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:44:58 +0200 X-Sender: gregor@mail.retti.at Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Aaron M. Gowatch" , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Gregor Retti Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Group permissions Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 14:56 Uhr -0700 02.09.1997, Aaron M. Gowatch wrote: >I'm running netatalk-1.4b2 under Linux 2.0.30. > >Netatalk doesnt appear to be recognizing the various groups that a given >user is in. > >For instance, if a users primary group was 'staff' and the user was also >in the group 'edit', a file or directory writable by the group 'edit' is >not writable by the user. > group permissions work fine for me (netatalk-1.4b2, Linux 2.0.30), tough you may have to keep in mind, that adding a user to a group is not recognized for a running connection (as under unix). the user has to unmount all appleshare volumes and login again. greetings gregor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ---------------- http://germ2.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 3 06:09:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA23964; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 06:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA23959; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 06:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA24569; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 06:09:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA24567 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 06:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.fulda.net (hercule.fulda.net [194.196.71.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id GAA24563 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 06:09:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <340DA850.1AE8@fulda.net> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 11:11:28 -0700 From: Fuldaer Verlagsanstalt X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problem w. Netatalk in a Ethershare Environment Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, i have a Problem with Netatalk V1.4b2 My Linux is Kernel Version 2.0.30 (SuSE 5.0) on a i486. I am runnig three NE2000 and want to integrate the Linux into the whole Net. The Net that are two Sun running Solaris 2.4 with the Software Ethershare, which enables them to Talk Appletalk. Ethershare is from Helios and we use V2.2.0 Updt<=u0066. If I pull out the plug to the rest of the net (eth0, 10mbps) everything works really fine. In my Room the Routing and even printing from a Mac goes very well. I was surprised and i like NetAtalk very much. But everytime i am connected to the "rest" (At Startup of Netatalk, or if i plug eth0 in) netatalk stopped and the Message "rtmp_packet gateway 400:140 up" showed up. The rest of the net (the sun´s) still goes well, only the zones and the functionality of netatalk stops. Start of Netatalk with rc.atalk: Aug 29 16:43:53 gr-router atalkd[206]: restart (1.4b2) Aug 29 16:43:54 gr-router atalkd[206]: zip_getnetinfo for eth1 Aug 29 16:44:13 gr-router last message repeated 2 times Aug 29 16:44:23 gr-router atalkd[206]: as_timer configured eth1 phase 2 from seed Aug 29 16:44:24 gr-router atalkd[206]: zip_getnetinfo for eth2 Aug 29 16:44:33 gr-router last message repeated 2 times Aug 29 16:44:43 gr-router atalkd[206]: as_timer configured eth2 phase 2 from seed Aug 29 16:44:44 gr-router atalkd[206]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 Aug 29 16:44:44 gr-router atalkd[206]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 Aug 29 16:44:44 gr-router atalkd[206]: rtmp_packet interface mismatch Aug 29 16:44:44 gr-router atalkd[206]: zip gnireply from 400.140 (eth0 1a) Aug 29 16:44:44 gr-router atalkd[206]: zip_packet configured eth0 from 400.140 Aug 29 16:44:44 gr-router atalkd[206]: zip gnireply from 400.140 (eth0 ba) Aug 29 16:44:44 gr-router atalkd[206]: zip ignoring gnireply Aug 29 16:44:53 gr-router atalkd[206]: rtmp_packet gateway 400.140 up ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The actual atalkd.conf: eth1 -seed -phase 2 -net 398-399 -addr 398.41 -zone "Buero" eth2 -seed -phase 2 -net 396-397 -addr 396.220 -zone "Buero" eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 400-410 -addr 400.5 -zone "Satz" There are no conflicts with the zones on the sun´s. The Zone "Satz" (which have to be shared by both) is exactly the same way configured at linux and the sun. I tried eth0 to start in first place and last place. I tried eth0 to start without any -seed or -net, but no changes. Atalkd.conf is read-write-enabled. I even tried it without atalkd.conf. Does anybody knows a "Workaround" or bug fix? In my personal opinion Netatalk is still very good. With best wishes, and Many Thanks OLAF -----------SCHNITT------------- FVA-Fuldaer Verlagsanstalt GmbH Rangstrasse 3-7 D-36037 Fulda GERMANY E-Mail FVA@FULDA.NET -------------EOT--------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 3 07:53:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA26984; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 07:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA26968; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 07:53:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA07281; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 07:53:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA07279 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 07:53:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from guardian.intouch.org (guardian-ext.intouch.org [209.49.128.130]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA07275 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 07:53:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [209.49.128.6] by guardian.intouch.org for id HAA08806; Wed Sep 3 07:53:28 1997 Received: by fba.org (Smail3.2.0.92 #1) id m0x6Dmf-0005iOC; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 07:39:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 07:39:41 -0400 (EDT) In-reply-to: <01BCB46F.838DA940@ts026d15.sto-ca.concentric.net> (message from Eric and Catherine Thompson on Fri, 29 Aug 1997 11:32:37 -0700) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] sporadic copying To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Jeffrey Thompson Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >From: Eric and Catherine Thompson >I recently built a Linux fileserver for a client of mine. I originally = >installed Redhat 4.2 (recommended to me several times for ease of net = >setup) with Netatalk 1.4b2. That system was mostly ok, except for one = >big problem: it would periodically stop allowing connections. = I run Redhat 4.1 and I still have that "big problem". Has anyone seen this and solved it? It's preventing me from really using netatalk to it's full potential when every other connection can't connect. Jeffrey Thompson From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 3 07:58:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA27339; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 07:58:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA27334; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 07:58:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA08388; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 07:58:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA08386 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 07:58:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from villain.rs.itd.umich.edu (villain.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.180]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA08376 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 07:58:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from schubert.promo.de by villain.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA17467; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 07:58:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29130; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 13:50:54 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <340DA850.1AE8@fulda.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 13:52:57 +0200 To: Fuldaer Verlagsanstalt From: Stefan Bethke Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problem w. Netatalk in a Ethershare Environment Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 20:11 Uhr +0200 03.09.1997, Fuldaer Verlagsanstalt wrote: >Aug 29 16:44:53 gr-router atalkd[206]: rtmp_packet gateway 400.140 up > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >The actual atalkd.conf: >eth1 -seed -phase 2 -net 398-399 -addr 398.41 -zone "Buero" >eth2 -seed -phase 2 -net 396-397 -addr 396.220 -zone "Buero" >eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 400-410 -addr 400.5 -zone "Satz" Most probably, EtherShare's configuration is different. The configuration (in conf/atalk.conf) should look like atalkd: if="le0:400-410:140:Satz", if=... [further interfaces] If there is only one interface listed, this would be the culprit as the only valid configuration then would be atalkd: if="le0" Double-check that the net range and the zone list are *exactly* identical for the common network. I've had no problems running EtherShare and netatalk, both as a router and a non-router, albeit on FreeBSD, not Linux. You might consider talking to your Helios dealer, or ask your system administrator about the AppleTalk configuration at your site. Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-0 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 3 08:12:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA28110; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:12:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA28101; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:12:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA11490; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:13:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA11485 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:13:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de (dx4.pingnet.de [194.148.12.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA11475 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) id NAA07120; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 13:20:08 +0200 Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 13:20:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk CDROM server problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > I`m trying to setup a RedHat Linux 4.1 machine as a CDROM server > for Mac's using netatalk. The macs can see the CD's and access them, > except that when try to access a file I get the massage "Cannot associate > application to file type" or a similar message. The CD's I am using are > Macintosh HFS CD's (mounted using the HFS kernel module). Does anyone know > the solution to this or how to get around this problem. Thanks in advance. How do you mount the CD (mount-options! Use fork=netatalk!)? Where do you get the message? Linux or Mac? Do you use EasyOpen? Probably misconfigured? Please supply more Information! :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 3 09:14:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA01648; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 09:14:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA01640; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 09:14:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA06746; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 09:15:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA06727 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 09:14:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from step.polymtl.ca (step.polymtl.ca [132.207.4.32]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA06704 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 09:14:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (pfeif@localhost) by step.polymtl.ca (8.8.6/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA03757; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 09:11:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 09:11:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Marc Heckmann To: Patrik Schindler cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk CDROM server problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 3 Sep 1997, Patrik Schindler wrote: > > I`m trying to setup a RedHat Linux 4.1 machine as a CDROM server > > for Mac's using netatalk. The macs can see the CD's and access them, > > except that when try to access a file I get the massage "Cannot associate > > application to file type" or a similar message. The CD's I am using are > > Macintosh HFS CD's (mounted using the HFS kernel module). Does anyone know > > the solution to this or how to get around this problem. Thanks in advance. > > How do you mount the CD (mount-options! Use fork=netatalk!)? Where do you > get the message? Linux or Mac? Do you use EasyOpen? Probably misconfigured? > Please supply more Information! Hi, I don't use the fork=netatalk option and I get the message on the Macs. I haqve never heard of easy open.. I also have a comprehensive File map in my AppleVolumes.system. Thanks. Marc Heckmann > :wq! PoC > From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 3 10:34:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA07249; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 10:34:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id KAA07239; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 10:33:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id KAA07228; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 10:33:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA07072; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 10:32:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709031432.KAA07072@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Fuldaer Verlagsanstalt cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problem w. Netatalk in a Ethershare Environment In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Sep 1997 11:11:28 PDT." <340DA850.1AE8@fulda.net> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 10:32:13 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Fuldaer Verlagsanstalt > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Aug 29 16:44:44 gr-router atalkd[206]: rtmp_packet interface mismatch This seems like a problem. I suggest you run a test. Set your atalkd.conf to look like this: #eth1 -seed -phase 2 -net 398-399 -addr 398.41 -zone "Buero" #eth2 -seed -phase 2 -net 396-397 -addr 396.220 -zone "Buero" eth0 atalkd will rewrite it, preserving your comments, with a configuration of eth0 that will make the rest of your network happy. While it's running in this mode, send atalkd a USR1 signal. This will cause atalkd to create the file /tmp/atalkd.debug, with a complete routing table. Review this table, it will tell you all of the network numbers that are in use. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 3 11:08:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA10230; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 11:08:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA10224; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 11:08:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA15607; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 11:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA15479 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 11:08:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wired.com (get.wired.com [204.62.131.5]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA15220 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 11:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (aarong@localhost) by wired.com (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA18602; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:02:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Aaron M. Gowatch" To: Gregor Retti cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Group permissions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 3 Sep 1997, Gregor Retti wrote: > group permissions work fine for me (netatalk-1.4b2, Linux 2.0.30), tough > you may have to keep in mind, that adding a user to a group is not > recognized for a running connection (as under unix). the user has to > unmount all appleshare volumes and login again. Yea, for the most part, the users are already members of multiple groups. But I've discovered some rather strange behaviour. If a user would open a window, and the icon which indicates that the directory is read-only appears at the upper left, the user can create a directory, but not delete it. Also if a user would edit a file in that same read-only directory with something like Simpletext, they can write their changes, but they cannot write the file using something like BBEdit. Oh, and this is netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a14 if that might make a difference. Any other suggestions? Aa. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 3 17:27:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA26994; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 17:27:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA26983; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 17:27:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA11529; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 17:27:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA11507 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 17:27:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA11462 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 17:27:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA00267; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 22:26:40 +0100 Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 22:26:39 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Marc Heckmann cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk CDROM server problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 3 Sep 1997, Marc Heckmann wrote: > On Wed, 3 Sep 1997, Patrik Schindler wrote: > > > > I`m trying to setup a RedHat Linux 4.1 machine as a CDROM server > > > for Mac's using netatalk. The macs can see the CD's and access them, > > > except that when try to access a file I get the massage "Cannot associate > > > application to file type" or a similar message. The CD's I am using are > > > Macintosh HFS CD's (mounted using the HFS kernel module). Does anyone know > > > the solution to this or how to get around this problem. Thanks in advance. > > How do you mount the CD (mount-options! Use fork=netatalk!)? Where do you > > get the message? Linux or Mac? Do you use EasyOpen? Probably misconfigured? > > Please supply more Information! > I don't use the fork=netatalk option and I get the message on the Macs. I > haqve never heard of easy open.. I also have a comprehensive File map in > my AppleVolumes.system. Thanks. I think that if you mount the CD with "-o afpd" in the mount command line then that will help. This makes the hfs module present the CD in such a way that netatalk's afpd can understand the resource forks and other macintoshy things. -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Sep 4 07:38:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA01268; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 07:38:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA01264; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 07:38:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA08693; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 07:38:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA08691 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 07:38:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.datakom.su.se (mail.datakom.su.se [130.237.162.47]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA08687 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 07:38:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.datakom.su.se (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA23498 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 11:38:00 GMT Received: from ftp.botan.su.se(130.237.178.3) by mail via smap (V1.3) id sma023486; Thu Sep 4 13:37:43 1997 Received: from BOTANIK/MAILQ by ftp.botan.se (Mercury 1.21); 4 Sep 97 14:07:19 GMT+1 Received: from MAILQ by BOTANIK (Mercury 1.21); 4 Sep 97 14:06:55 GMT+1 Received: from [130.237.178.8] by ftp.botan.se (Mercury 1.21) with ESMTP; 4 Sep 97 14:06:52 GMT+1 X-Sender: wikstron@ftp.botan.su.se Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 13:43:06 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Niklas =?iso-8859-1?Q?Wikstr=F6m?= Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems with Netatalk and IPX? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am trying to run netatalk 1.4b2 and ncpfs-2.0.11 on a Linux PC. When set up I continuously get a message on the screen telling me "Network number collision 82edb201, eth0 802.3 and eth0 802.2" Does anyone know if it should work or if this is caused by trying to talk both appletalk as well as IPX. I should say that netatalk is running very slowly on my machine and have done so always, with or without the ncpfs running. I would very much appreciate some help on this. Sincerely Niklas Wikstr=F6m ****************************************** Niklas Wikstr=F6m Deptartment of Botany Stockholm university S-106 91 Stockholm Tel: +46 8 163927 =46ax: +46 8 162577 e-mail: wikstrom@botan.su.se ****************************************** From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Sep 4 12:22:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA08189; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:22:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA08185; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:22:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA11926; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:23:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA11875 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:22:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at (germ2.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA11830 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:22:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from buster.retti.at (internet@germ3.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.3]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.3/8.7.3 (l 3)) with ESMTP id SAA28990; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 18:22:23 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (m610.retti.at [192.168.0.13]) by buster.retti.at (8.8.3/8.8.3 (GR v 1.1)) with ESMTP id SAA24669; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 18:19:40 +0200 Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 18:19:40 +0200 X-Sender: gregor@mail.retti.at Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: Niklas =?iso-8859-1?Q?Wikstr=F6m?= , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Gregor Retti Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems with Netatalk and IPX? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 13:43 Uhr +0200 04.09.1997, Niklas Wikstr=F6m wrote: >I am trying to run netatalk 1.4b2 and ncpfs-2.0.11 on a Linux PC. When set >up I continuously get a message on the screen telling me "Network number >collision 82edb201, eth0 802.3 and eth0 802.2" > >Does anyone know if it should work or if this is caused by trying to talk >both appletalk as well as IPX. > that should be no problem. I am running netalk and the mars_nwe as a novell server (which I can recommend strongly). it looks rather as if there is something wrong whith your IPX-setup. greetings gregor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ---------------- http://germ2.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Sep 4 12:26:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA08356; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:26:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA08348; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:26:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA13440; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:26:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA13376 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:26:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.fulda.net (hercule.fulda.net [194.196.71.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id MAA13326 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 12:26:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <340F51F8.1444@fulda.net> Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 17:27:36 -0700 From: Fuldaer Verlagsanstalt X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu CC: micha@dolbyco.han.de Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problem w. Netatalk in a Ethershare Environment References: <199709031956.VAA02072@dolbyco.han.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Many thanks for the help.... I tried with only "eth0" and gave atalkd a usr1-signal. Here´s the debug-file: interface lo 0.0 2AC 0-0 xi interface eth0 404.154 2ACL 400-410 zxi 'Satz' gate 400.140 1 400-410 x 20001-40000 zxi 'Belichter' 40001-65279 zxi 'Repro' The atalk.conf then looked: eth0 -phase 2 -net 400-410 -addr 404.154 -zone "Satz" The Messages of /var/log/messages looked: Aug 29 16:43:53 gr-router atalkd[206]: restart (1.4b2) Aug 29 16:43:54 gr-router atalkd[206]: zip_getnetinfo for eth1 Aug 29 16:44:13 gr-router last message repeated 2 times Aug 29 16:44:23 gr-router atalkd[206]: as_timer configured eth1 phase 2 from seed Aug 29 16:44:24 gr-router atalkd[206]: zip_getnetinfo for eth2 Aug 29 16:44:33 gr-router last message repeated 2 times Aug 29 16:44:43 gr-router atalkd[206]: as_timer configured eth2 phase 2 from seed Aug 29 16:44:44 gr-router atalkd[206]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 Aug 29 16:44:44 gr-router atalkd[206]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 Aug 29 16:44:44 gr-router atalkd[206]: rtmp_packet interface mismatch Aug 29 16:44:44 gr-router atalkd[206]: zip gnireply from 400.140 (eth0 1a) Aug 29 16:44:44 gr-router atalkd[206]: zip_packet configured eth0 from 400.140 Aug 29 16:44:44 gr-router atalkd[206]: zip gnireply from 400.140 (eth0 ba) Aug 29 16:44:44 gr-router atalkd[206]: zip ignoring gnireply Aug 29 16:44:53 gr-router atalkd[206]: rtmp_packet gateway 400.140 up And from now on it took 18 Minutes until the prompt. Thats not normal? The Clients in the other net could work with the Linux from now on. Even printing goes well (fantastic! A non-Postscript-Laser reachable from any Client by the LW8-Driver which could ONLY print Postscript!) But sad, really sad, i restarted Linux and when i fired up Netatalk it said A-Talk not Up, Child exited with 1, and the messages told me why: "bind 404.154:6: Adress already in use" So who takes care of this specific Adress? Now I wanted to know: I added only eth1 and eth2 without para´s and changed the eth0-Adress, because two more times the adress was in use (?) I never could start Atalk again. I switched off all Clients (Macs) and tried several times with an Number that is NOT in use. Everytime "bind" says Adress already in use. Michael asked for a Net-Map, here it is. I I +------------------le0 le1--------------le1 le0----- I I I I I eth2 eth1 eth0 I I Linux Sun 1 Sun 2 atalk.conf at Sun1: atalkd: if="le0:400-410:140:Satz", if="le1:20001-40000:140:Belichter" atalk.conf at Sun2: atalkd: if="le0:40001-65279:140:Repro", if="le1:200001-40000:140:Belichter" Actual I had thrown away the big numbers from "Satz", which had been "1-20000" like the Ethershare documentation thought of to be the right thing because we have to stretch over the "whole" Net-adresse´s that could ever be possible!(?). Any thought´s? Thanks OLAF -------------CUT--------------- FVA-Fuldaer Verlagsanstalt GmbH Rangstrasse 3-7 D-36037 Fulda GERMANY E-Mail FVA@FULDA.NET -------------EOT--------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Sep 4 14:27:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA12583; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:27:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA12546; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:27:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA13898; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:27:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA13362 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:26:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thor.spiralmedia.com (thor.spiralmedia.com [207.142.211.75]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA12140 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:24:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ptacek@localhost) by thor.spiralmedia.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA14412 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:25:46 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 14:25:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Ptacek To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk 1.4b2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm looking for a sun's netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a15.tar.gz. The permissions are set so that I can't d/l it and was wondering if anyone had a copy of it or knew where I could get a copy FAST! Thanks Chris From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Sep 4 22:05:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id WAA27051; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 22:05:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id WAA27047; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 22:05:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA26291; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 22:05:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA26281 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 22:05:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA26273 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 22:05:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08564 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 19:05:03 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA09933; Thu, 4 Sep 1997 19:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 19:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199709050205.TAA09933@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] a15.1 patchset available Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu well, i've just made a15.1. it should fix the problems with compiling afpd, the breakage i inflicted on atalkd, and the known os8 interaction problems. let me know how it goes. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Sep 5 08:15:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA26598; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 08:15:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA26594; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 08:15:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA17285; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 08:15:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA17274 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 08:15:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cre8tivegroup.com (abt6.bitwise.net [204.97.222.226]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id IAA17260 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 08:15:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.255.227.84] by mail.cre8tivegroup.com (SMTPD32-3.04) id A87A760074; Fri, 05 Sep 1997 08:18:02 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199709050205.TAA09933@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 08:14:19 -0400 (EDT) Organization: The Creative Group From: Patrick Gardella To: a sun Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] a15.1 patchset available Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On 05-Sep-97 a sun wrote: > >well, i've just made a15.1. it should fix the problems with compiling >afpd, the breakage i inflicted on atalkd, and the known os8 >interaction problems. let me know how it goes. > >-a Mine had more problems than a15! cd atalkd; make CC="gcc" ADDLIBS="" DEFS="-DBSD4_4" OPTOPTS="-O2" SBINDIR="/ usr/local/atalk/etc" BINDIR="/usr/local/atalk/bin" RESDIR="/usr/local/atalk/etc" ETCDIR="/usr/local/atalk/etc" LIBDIR="/usr/local/atalk/lib" INCDIR="/usr/local /atalk/include" DESTDIR="/usr/local/atalk" AFSDIR="" KRBDIR="" gcc -DBSD4_4 -O2 -I../../include -DPHASE1NET -DVERSION=\"`cat ../../VERSION`\" -c main.c gcc -DBSD4_4 -O2 -I../../include -DPHASE1NET -D_PATH_ATALKDCONF=\"/usr/local/ata lk/etc/atalkd.conf\" -c config.c gcc -DBSD4_4 -O2 -I../../include -DPHASE1NET -c zip.c gcc -DBSD4_4 -O2 -I../../include -DPHASE1NET -c nbp.c gcc -DBSD4_4 -O2 -I../../include -DPHASE1NET -c aep.c gcc -DBSD4_4 -O2 -I../../include -DPHASE1NET -c rtmp.c gcc -DBSD4_4 -O2 -I../../include -DPHASE1NET -c route.c gcc -DBSD4_4 -O2 -I../../include -DPHASE1NET -c multicast.c In file included from multicast.c:6: /usr/include/sys/socket.h:137: parse error before `u_char' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:137: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/sys/socket.h:138: warning: data definition has no type or storage c lass /usr/include/sys/socket.h:140: parse error before `}' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:147: parse error before `u_short' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:147: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/sys/socket.h:148: warning: data definition has no type or storage c lass /usr/include/sys/socket.h:259: parse error before `caddr_t' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:259: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/sys/socket.h:260: warning: data definition has no type or storage c lass /usr/include/sys/socket.h:262: parse error before `msg_iovlen' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:262: warning: data definition has no type or storage c lass /usr/include/sys/socket.h:263: parse error before `msg_control' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:263: warning: data definition has no type or storage c lass /usr/include/sys/socket.h:264: parse error before `msg_controllen' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:264: warning: data definition has no type or storage c lass /usr/include/sys/socket.h:266: parse error before `}' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:286: parse error before `u_int' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:286: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/sys/socket.h:290: parse error before `}' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:312: parse error before `u_short' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:312: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/sys/socket.h:314: parse error before `}' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:320: parse error before `caddr_t' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:320: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/sys/socket.h:324: parse error before `msg_accrights' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:324: warning: data definition has no type or storage c lass /usr/include/sys/socket.h:326: parse error before `}' In file included from multicast.c:6: /usr/include/sys/socket.h:340: parse error before `recv' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:340: parse error before `size_t' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:340: warning: data definition has no type or storage c lass /usr/include/sys/socket.h:341: parse error before `recvfrom' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:341: parse error before `size_t' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:341: warning: data definition has no type or storage c lass /usr/include/sys/socket.h:342: parse error before `recvmsg' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:342: warning: data definition has no type or storage c lass /usr/include/sys/socket.h:343: parse error before `send' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:343: parse error before `size_t' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:343: warning: data definition has no type or storage c lass /usr/include/sys/socket.h:344: parse error before `sendto' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:345: parse error before `size_t' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:345: warning: data definition has no type or storage c lass /usr/include/sys/socket.h:346: parse error before `sendmsg' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:346: warning: data definition has no type or storage c lass multicast.c: In function `addmulti': multicast.c:298: storage size of `sa' isn't known multicast.c:300: sizeof applied to an incomplete type multicast.c:302: sizeof applied to an incomplete type *** Error code 1 Stop. ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Patrick Gardella Date: 05-Sep-97 Time: 08:14:19 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Sep 5 12:07:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA08351; 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charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 12:08:45 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: James Sentman Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] a15 compile problems Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu hi folks, Have been using the vanilla version of netatalk from the web site on our solaris server for quite a while. When we upgraded to OS8 it started having the same problems that everyone else is experiencing. I've tried compiling the asun a15 version but get the following compiler messages. What am I doing wrong? The 1.4b2 version compiled no problem. Thanks for your help. -James m1 --> Output/Warnings/Errors gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -DPHASE1NET -c multicast.c In file included from multicast.c:6: /usr/include/sys/socket.h:143: parse error before `u_short' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:143: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/sys/socket.h:145: parse error before `}' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:152: parse error before `u_short' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:152: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/sys/socket.h:153: warning: data definition has no type or storage c lass /usr/include/sys/socket.h:195: parse error before `caddr_t' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:195: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/sys/socket.h:199: parse error before `msg_accrights' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:199: warning: data definition has no type or storage c lass /usr/include/sys/socket.h:201: parse error before `}' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:260: parse error before `dev_t' /usr/include/sys/socket.h:260: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/sys/socket.h:262: parse error before `}' multicast.c: In function `addmulti': multicast.c:298: storage size of `sa' isn't known multicast.c:300: sizeof applied to an incomplete type multicast.c:302: `SIOCADDMULTI' undeclared (first use this function) multicast.c:302: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once multicast.c:302: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `multicast.o' (on host m1) Current working directory /usr3/app/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a15.1/etc/atalkd Waiting for 1 job to finish *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `atalkd' Current working directory /usr3/app/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a15.1/etc *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `../../etc' Current working directory /usr3/app/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a15.1/sys/solaris *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all' __________________________________________________________________ James Sentman sentman@m1.mediaone.com Internet Systems Specialist Media One (804) 264-4097 http://www.mediaone.com/ http://shoga.wwa.com/~sentman/ __________________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Sep 5 12:25:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA09372; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 12:25:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA09365; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 12:24:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA26018; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 12:25:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA26010 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 12:25:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id MAA25991 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 12:25:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16692; Fri, 5 Sep 97 17:24:54 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 17:24:51 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from zaza (zaza.tees) by scorch; Fri, 5 Sep 97 17:26:51 BST Date: Fri, 5 Sep 97 17:26:32 BST Message-Id: <21505.9709051626@zaza> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] a15 compile problems Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu My system must be a mutant, I've compiled a15 on SunOS 4.1.3 & 4.1.4, on a SPARC station 1+, 2 & 10 without a hitch. I had to find cdefs.h & bitypes.h first, but I need them to compile any flavour of netatalk... later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Sep 5 12:33:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA09815; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 12:33:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA09808; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 12:33:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA00195; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 12:33:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA00114 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 12:33:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ivory.lm.com (ivory.lm.com [204.171.44.50]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA29663 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 12:32:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phluffy.lm.com (myke@phluffy.lm.com [204.171.44.47]) by ivory.lm.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA02342; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 12:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 12:36:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.lm.com To: John Barry -Technician cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] a15 compile problems In-Reply-To: <21505.9709051626@zaza> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 5 Sep 1997, John Barry -Technician wrote: > My system must be a mutant, I've compiled a15 on SunOS 4.1.3 & 4.1.4, on a > SPARC station 1+, 2 & 10 without a hitch. I had to find cdefs.h & bitypes.h > first, but I need them to compile any flavour of netatalk... I've had to tweak things by hand on FreeBSD. I'm guessing asun develops on a Sun box. Not that I'm complaining, I'd expect to have to do some fiddling to get bleeding-edge development releases to work... - Mike From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Sep 5 12:59:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA10988; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 12:59:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA10984; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 12:59:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA14003; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 13:00:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA13987 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 13:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA13875 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 12:59:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11549; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 09:58:55 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA21164; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 09:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 09:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199709051659.JAA21164@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: patrick@cre8tivegroup.com CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from Patrick Gardella on Fri, 05 Sep 1997 08:14:19 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] a15.1 patchset available Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu that's what i get for attempting to move things around to apparently more appropriate locations. anyways, i've made an a15.2 patch available which undoes the movement and should help atalkd. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Sep 5 13:28:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA11947; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 13:28:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA11943; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 13:28:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA28852; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 13:29:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA28801 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 13:28:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cre8tivegroup.com (abt6.bitwise.net [204.97.222.226]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id NAA28766 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 13:28:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [204.255.227.84] by mail.cre8tivegroup.com (SMTPD32-3.04) id A1CF180017C; Fri, 05 Sep 1997 13:30:55 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199709051659.JAA21164@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 13:28:29 -0400 (EDT) Organization: The Creative Group From: Patrick Gardella To: a sun Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] a15.1 patchset available Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu a15.2 worked, at least the complile. I'll reboot later and try the running! Pat On 05-Sep-97 a sun wrote: > >that's what i get for attempting to move things around to apparently >more appropriate locations. anyways, i've made an a15.2 patch >available which undoes the movement and should help atalkd. > >-a ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Patrick Gardella Date: 05-Sep-97 Time: 13:28:29 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Sep 5 14:46:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA15563; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 14:46:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA15558; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 14:46:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA06266; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 14:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA05891 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 14:45:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thor.spiralmedia.com (thor.spiralmedia.com [207.142.211.75]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA05847 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 14:45:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ptacek@localhost) by thor.spiralmedia.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA22000 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 14:46:48 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 14:46:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Ptacek To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] make problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm getting a "sys/quota.h No such file or directory" error in my compile. Any idea's? Thanks Chris From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Sep 5 14:59:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA16262; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 14:59:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA16256; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 14:59:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA02672; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 14:59:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA01675 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 14:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ciesin.org (mail.ciesin.org [160.39.8.11]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id OAA00751 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 14:56:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail (mail.ciesin.org) by ciesin.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10391; Fri, 5 Sep 97 14:55:54 EDT Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 14:55:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Schatzer X-Sender: schatzer@mail To: Christopher Ptacek Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] make problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 5 Sep 1997, Christopher Ptacek wrote: > Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 14:46:48 -0400 (EDT) > From: Christopher Ptacek > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Subject: [netatalk-admins] make problem > > I'm getting a "sys/quota.h No such file or directory" error in my compile. > Any idea's? > > Thanks > Chris > > Sounds like one of two things: 1). Your system is using quota and is expecting Netatalk to use them as well and is not finding the right file or 2). Your trying to compile it with quota's "on" and it can't file the right files. Check your Makefile and install files as to whether quota's are enabled or whether you want them or not....... --Scott S. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Schatzer | CIESIN Systems Administrator | The Consortium for International scott.schatzer@ciesin.org | Earth Science Information Network Phone: 517-797-2679 | 2250 Pierce Rd. Fax: 517-797-2622 | University Center, MI 48710 http://www.ciesin.org | ===================================================================== From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Sep 5 15:07:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA16979; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 15:07:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA16966; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 15:07:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA06738; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 15:07:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA05968 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 15:06:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ivory.lm.com (ivory.lm.com [204.171.44.50]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA05290 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 15:04:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phluffy.lm.com (myke@phluffy.lm.com [204.171.44.47]) by ivory.lm.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA27366; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 15:04:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 15:09:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.lm.com Reply-To: Mike Holling To: Christopher Ptacek cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] make problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > I'm getting a "sys/quota.h No such file or directory" error in my compile. > Any idea's? phluffy% locate quota.h | grep include /usr/include/rpcsvc/rquota.h /usr/include/ufs/ufs/quota.h First, make sure that you already have /usr/include in your include path. Then replace "sys/quota.h" with "ufs/ufs/quota.h" or make a symlink in /usr/include pointing to the right place. I don't see quota.h in any sys directory on the *BSD boxes, might be a SunOS thing. - Mike From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Sep 5 17:56:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA24371; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 17:56:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA24330; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 17:56:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA02758; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 17:56:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA02753 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 17:56:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA02745 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 17:56:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from air.steve.net (slip166-72-201-115.vt.us.ibm.net [166.72.201.115]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA182600; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 21:56:23 GMT Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 18:03:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven N. Hirsch" X-Sender: hirsch@air.steve.net To: Christopher Ptacek cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] make problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 5 Sep 1997, Christopher Ptacek wrote: > I'm getting a "sys/quota.h No such file or directory" error in my compile. > Any idea's? > If you are running under Linux, you'll need to edit /netatalk/sys/linux/Makefile and uncomment: -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER" Then run make again and you'll be in business. Steve From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Sep 6 08:16:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA00925; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 08:16:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA00921; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 08:16:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA07171; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 08:16:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA07165 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 08:16:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fhul02.rz.fh-ulm.de (Fhul02.rz.fh-ulm.de [141.59.42.15]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id IAA07161 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 08:16:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by fhul02.rz.fh-ulm.de (5.57/BelWue-1.1+DEC) id AA03339; Sat, 6 Sep 97 14:16:37 +0200 Received: from HUGO/SpoolDir by hugo.rz.fh-ulm.de (Mercury 1.31); 6 Sep 97 14:16:40 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by HUGO (Mercury 1.31); 6 Sep 97 14:16:34 +0100 Received: from PENTIUM.sam-net.de by hugo.rz.fh-ulm.de (Mercury 1.31); 6 Sep 97 14:16:26 +0100 Message-Id: <341146CD.4E45@tao.de> Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 14:04:29 +0200 From: Stephan Bauer X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems with netatalk and novel-server Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by felix.rz.fh-ulm.de id OAA24904 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I=B4m trying to include a linux netatalkserver into an net with=20 MACs and a NOVEL-server. The selfconfiguration of atalkd failed (without atalk.conf): Sep 6 13:05:23 gaby atalkd[271]: restart (1.4b2) Sep 6 13:05:24 gaby atalkd[271]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 Sep 6 13:05:24 gaby atalkd[271]: zip gnireply from 5.234 (eth0 12) Sep 6 13:05:25 gaby kernel: Too many routes/iface. Sep 6 13:05:25 gaby atalkd[271]: setifaddr: eth0: Invalid argument There are two zones but no router SaM_MAC_ZONE and SaM_NOVEL_Zone Selfconfiguration of eth0 without the NOVEL-server shows: Sep 6 13:21:06 gaby atalkd[203]: restart (1.4b2) Sep 6 13:21:07 gaby atalkd[203]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 Sep 6 13:21:26 gaby last message repeated 2 times Sep 6 13:21:36 gaby atalkd[203]: config for no router Sep 6 13:21:37 gaby atalkd[203]: ready 0/0/0 = =20 atalk.conf: eth0 -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -addr 65280.30 =20 = =20 If I try to start netatalk with this configuration: Sep 6 13:30:48 gaby atalkd[213]: zip gnireply from 5.234 (eth0 12) Sep 6 13:30:49 gaby kernel: Too many routes/iface. Sep 6 13:30:49 gaby atalkd[213]: setifaddr: eth0: Invalid argument rc.atalk: echo -n 'starting appletalk daemons:' if [ -f /usr/local/atalk/etc/atalkd ]; then /usr/local/atalk/etc/atalkd; echo -n ' atalkd' fi if [ -f /usr/local/atalk/bin/nbprgstr ]; then /usr/local/atalk/bin/nbprgstr -p 4 `hostname|sed 's/\..*$//'`:Workstation /usr/local/atalk/bin/nbprgstr -p 4 `hostname|sed 's/\..*$//'`:netatalk echo -n ' nbprgstr' fi if [ -f /usr/local/atalk/etc/papd ]; then /usr/local/atalk/etc/papd; echo -n ' papd' fi if [ -f /usr/local/atalk/etc/afpd ]; then /usr/local/atalk/etc/afpd -c 20; echo -n ' afpd' fi =20 Kernel-version is 2.0.30, netatalk is 1.4b2 without patches Thanks Stephan From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Sep 6 09:49:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA02096; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 09:49:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA02092; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 09:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA24300; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 09:49:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA24294 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 09:49:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA24288 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 09:49:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Sat, 6 Sep 1997 15:49:05 +0200 Received: by lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de (940816.SGI.8.6.9/ZRZ-Gen) id PAA09712; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 15:49:03 +0200 Message-Id: <199709061349.PAA09712@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Subject: [netatalk-admins] extension mapping list? To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 1997 15:49:03 +0200 (MEST) From: Georg Schwarz Reply-To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is there some extension <-> creator code/file type list available somewhere? The one that comes with Netatalk's AppleVolumes.system could need some additions. As I understand it such a list should not be special to Neta- talk but could be used with other software (Internet Config? PC Exchange?). Is there some mechanism to share such lists/updates to it among different software? --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik Tel. +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ Sekr. PN 7-1, Hardenbergstr. 36, D-10623 Berlin IRC: kuroi From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Sep 6 10:45:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA02892; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 10:45:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id KAA02887; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 10:45:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id KAA02885; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 10:45:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA02873; Sat, 6 Sep 1997 10:45:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709061445.KAA02873@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Stephan Bauer cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems with netatalk and novel-server In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Sep 1997 14:04:29 +0200." <341146CD.4E45@tao.de> Date: Sat, 06 Sep 1997 10:45:02 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Stephan Bauer > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Sep 6 13:05:25 gaby kernel: Too many routes/iface. > Sep 6 13:05:25 gaby atalkd[271]: setifaddr: eth0: Invalid argument Even tho you have no router, the novell server will look like one on the network. To get this to work, you should re-configure the novell server to have a smaller netrange for your ethernet. I'm not 100% certain why there's a limit in the AppleTalk module for Linux... :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Sep 7 04:52:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id EAA24188; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 04:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id EAA24184; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 04:51:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA15127; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 04:51:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA15122 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 04:51:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lpnp09.in2p3.fr (lpnp09.in2p3.fr [193.48.100.130]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA15114 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 04:51:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from delchini@localhost) by lpnp09.in2p3.fr (8.8.6/8.8.6) id KAA05518 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 10:50:54 +0200 From: Ugo Delchini Message-Id: <199709070850.KAA05518@lpnp09.in2p3.fr> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problem under Linux 2.0.30 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 10:50:54 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, thanx for this software, it is very usefull. I installed netatalk under Linux 2.0.30 on two LANs. The first one has only one old Mac II and everything works fine, i can mount volumes on the Mac II (system 7.5.5). The second one has a dozen of PowerMac. Here there is a problem. I can start all services (atlkd, afpd, ...) and everything seem to be ok. When i use the nbplkup command, there is only one printer (Fiery), and one old LC630 Mac that are detected by the lookup program on the local network. When i try to aecho one of these, it works fine. But i cannot see the exported volumes from any Mac, even the LC630. The PowerMacs are running the 7.5.3 system. I did not try to see printing services from the Macs. There is the isdn subsystem for Linux running on the PC, i should not disturb the AppleTalk. I read all the FAQs but didn't see anything. May be it is a simple config problem. Thanx for any help. Ugo. From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Sep 7 18:17:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA16370; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 18:17:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA16366; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 18:17:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA13955; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 18:17:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA13947 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 18:17:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cnrmail.lbl.gov (buster.lbl.gov [131.243.65.29]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA13940 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 1997 18:17:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.3.9.20] by cnrmail.lbl.gov with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2b3); Sun, 7 Sep 1997 15:17:27 -0700 X-Sender: wright@cnrmail.lbl.gov Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199709051659.JAA21164@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> References: (message from Patrick Gardella on Fri, 05 Sep 1997 08:14:19 -0400 (EDT)) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 15:17:24 -0700 To: a sun From: Russ Wright Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a15.2.tar.gz Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I just tried out 15.2 using GCC on Solaris. Everything compiled w/o any problems but I get a "can't start multicast" message when I run /etc/init.d/atalk. I'm running the pre15 stuff without that problem. Russ At 9:59 AM -0700 9/5/97, a sun wrote: >that's what i get for attempting to move things around to apparently >more appropriate locations. anyways, i've made an a15.2 patch >available which undoes the movement and should help atalkd. > >-a From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Sep 8 11:23:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA26098; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 11:23:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA26076; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 11:23:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA21524; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 11:23:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA20318 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 11:22:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thor.spiralmedia.com (thor.spiralmedia.com [207.142.211.75]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA20252 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 11:21:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ptacek@localhost) by thor.spiralmedia.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA06075 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 11:22:31 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 11:22:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Ptacek To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] running patch Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu First off, thanks to all who replyed to my previous question, now for todays I'm trying to run the patch to 1.4b2 to a15.2 and the README on the ftp site says: apply patches in the following manner: zcat | patch -d -p1 What dir does the patch file need to be and where is the patch dir. (I understand the command up till patch -d -p1. What is the directory?) Thanks from a total Lynx/UNIX novice -Chris From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Sep 8 15:06:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA06030; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 15:06:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA06026; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 15:06:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA28248; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 15:06:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA28217 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 15:06:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wis.lanl.gov (wis.lanl.gov [128.165.51.237]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA28119 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 1997 15:06:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.165.51.220] by wis.lanl.gov with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.1.2); Mon, 8 Sep 1997 13:06:21 -0600 X-Sender: thornewell@wis.lanl.gov Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 13:06:17 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Peter Thornewell Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems with permissions using 1.4b2 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu All, I've problems when attempting to set up a "Drop Box" server using netatalk 1.4b2 (strictly netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a15.2). The idea of a Drop Box server is simple - its a server where everyone has write access to each other's area's but no one has read access accept to their own Drop Box i.e. /Drop_Boxes/ root root rwxrwxr-x /Drop_Boxes/peter/ peter dbusers rwx-w--w- /Drop_Boxes/ernst/ ernst dbusers rwx-w--w- Firstly this fails - I get an error that the file I'm copying into ernst's drop box can not be found. If I cahnge the permissions to /Drop_Boxes/ root root rwxrwxr-x /Drop_Boxes/peter/ peter dbusers rwx-wx-wx /Drop_Boxes/ernst/ ernst dbusers rwx-wx-wx I can now write files into ernst's drop box but the icon has changed (no longer the usual locked folder with a down pointing arrow), but still the files in ernst's drop box are correctly unavailable for me to read. The main problem occurs when I correctly drop a file into ernst's drop box. I can write the file (as I'm a member of dbusers), but ernst is subsequently unable to read it. He sees that the file is there but the creator code is not correct nor is he able to copy the file. On inspection the dropped file has permissions filename peter dbusers rw--w--w- .AppleDouble/filename peter dbusers rw--w--w- i.e. I still own the file I dropped and hence the reason that ernst is unable to copy it or see the correct file type (which is buried in tyhe .AppleDouble portion of the file). Firstly can anyone duplicate these problems, and suprisingly secondly can anyone fix them? This system of Drop Boxes works fine under System 7 File Sharing but it is of course limitted to 10 connections and no TCP/IP access. FYI I'm runng netatalk under Linux RedHat release 4.3 (2.0.30 kernel). TIA, Pete ********************************************** Pete Thornewell Los Alamos National Laboratory Los Alamos NM 87545 tel. (505) 667-0685 fax. (505) 665-4121 ********************************************** From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 9 07:23:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA19536; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 07:23:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA19532; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 07:23:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA04220; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 07:23:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA04216 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 07:23:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.krammer.com (root@calgary.krammer.com [195.214.69.120]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA04194 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 07:23:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.0.137] (kpigate.kpi.de [195.214.73.1]) by mail.krammer.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA18743; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 12:12:42 GMT X-Sender: roelle@mail.roelle.i3w.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199709061349.PAA09712@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 13:22:29 +0200 To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) From: Harald Roelle Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] extension mapping list? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 15:49 Uhr +0200 06.09.1997, Georg Schwarz wrote: >Is there some extension <-> creator code/file type list available somewhere? >The one that comes with Netatalk's AppleVolumes.system could need some >additions. As I understand it such a list should not be special to Neta- >talk but could be used with other software (Internet Config? PC Exchange?). >Is there some mechanism to share such lists/updates to it among different >software? You could use InternetConfig to maintain you mappings list and convert it into an AppleVolumes.system file. To do that you can use a little hack I wrote. You can find it on Harry -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Harald Roelle From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 9 16:17:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA08215; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 16:17:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id QAA08210; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 16:17:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id QAA08198; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 16:16:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with SMTP id QAA07795; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 16:03:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (bulk_mailer v1.5+); Tue, 9 Sep 1997 16:03:52 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-release-list id QAA07787; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 16:03:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-release@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu id QAA07781; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 16:03:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk-release@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu id LAA07052; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 11:41:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk-release-members@umich.edu id LAA07033; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 11:41:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA07015; Fri, 5 Sep 1997 11:41:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709051541.LAA07015@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: epcordes@umich.edu To: netatalk-release@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] [netatalk-release] MacOS8 Patch Available Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 11:41:04 -0400 X-Sender: epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu An official patch has been released on the netatalk web pages to fix currently known problems with netatalk's integration with MacOS8. The patch can be found at the following web page: http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk/patches/1.4b2/ So far, nobody using the patch, including us, has reported any problems with the patch. If you find anything, please contact us at: netatalk@umich.edu Thank you for your attention. EV AN From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 9 18:14:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA13176; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 18:14:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA13172; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 18:14:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA11621; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 18:14:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA11601 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 18:14:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zifi.genetics.utah.edu (zifi.genetics.utah.edu [155.100.229.31]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA11572; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 18:14:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from zinc@localhost) by zifi.genetics.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.6.9) id QAA25190; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 16:14:08 -0600 Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 16:14:08 -0600 Message-Id: <199709092214.QAA25190@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> From: patrick finerty To: epcordes@umich.edu Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] [netatalk-release] MacOS8 Patch Available In-Reply-To: <199709051541.LAA07015@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <199709051541.LAA07015@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.33 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid X-Face: &dh1aHu*v\s24A9~2qU[ln~;(Cz#X]d2r-@X>#j9U@vx!v8%IYU''n-H1D)}U(-0Te~ LD|Cyg6Gh-aFN{B*VSKhs}en{nXo3xkveE#BxR9 > An official patch has been released on the netatalk web pages to fix currently > known problems with netatalk's integration with MacOS8. > > The patch can be found at the following web page: > > http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk/patches/1.4b2/ > > So far, nobody using the patch, including us, has reported any problems with the > patch. If you find anything, please contact us at: > > netatalk@umich.edu > > Thank you for your attention. > > EV > AN > -- "There is only one aim in life and that is to live it." Karl Shapiro,(1959) from an essay on Henry Miller's Tropic of Cancer finger zinc-pgp@zifi.genetics.utah.edu for PGP key zifi runs Linux 2.0.30 http://zifi.genetics.utah.edu --pgp-sign-Multipart_Tue_Sep__9_16:14:03_1997-1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQCVAwUBNBXKLk3Qo/lG0AH5AQFyoAP8CEjQvWXT9S1+IQCqxz3DRyZpj8hIuceM JORa2bRew/F2sBR1TArPUytX6yvU9ELecqrh9Dpt7syrWdHL0M/dHj8HCPExs904 QttLmX44Odcuf+ZATO7DVU9RD9JneCLlSUnJ4HgpI6rlB1hbfUpvkSELMMYhvD/Z /ZLimce0mfk= =5uIz -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --pgp-sign-Multipart_Tue_Sep__9_16:14:03_1997-1-- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 9 18:30:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA13782; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 18:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA13778; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 18:30:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA13378; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 18:30:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA28950 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 14:41:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from villain.rs.itd.umich.edu (0@villain.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.180]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA28475 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 14:39:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wired.com by villain.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA28705; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 14:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (aarong@localhost) by wired.com (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA11977; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 11:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 11:39:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Aaron M. Gowatch" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Large partition under Netatalk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm having some trouble accessing one particularly large partition via Netatalk. My AppleVolumes.default looks something like this: ~ /dsk/hot/bab "Bits & Bytes" /dsk/hot/www "WWW" /dsk/stuff/hwc/central "Central" /dsk/hot/www.docroot "Other WWW" /dsk/hot/eng "Engineering" /dsk/stuff/usr_people "Home Directories" /dsk/hot/www/staff "Home Pages" /dsk/hot/www/testpatterns "Test Patterns" /dsk/hot is a 16G partition, comprised of four 4G disks hanging off of a DPT RAID controller. Everything works fine except for WWW, which when accessed will sit for about 10 minutes before finally displaying a window which indicates that there are 17,000 some odd files. You cannot scroll within the window or navigate the directory structure. But if I go into /dsk/hot/www/.AppleDouble and delete .Parent, it will work fine until that file is created again. When is this file created and what is its purpose? Is there any reason why it should be causing this kind of behavior? The box runs Linux 2.0.30 and netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a14. It has 192M of RAM and 36G of disk. Thanks in advance - Aa. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 9 19:59:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA18074; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 19:59:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA18068; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 19:58:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA19657; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 19:58:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA19647 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 19:58:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po10.andrew.cmu.edu (PO10.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.110]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA19636 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 19:58:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from postman@localhost) by po10.andrew.cmu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.2) id TAA01107 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 19:58:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: via switchmail; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 19:58:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from yendi.cc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 19:57:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from yendi.cc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 19:57:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BatMail.robin.v2.14.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.yendi.cc.cmu.edu.HP9000.715 via MS.5.6.yendi.cc.cmu.edu.hp700; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 19:57:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0o5S9n200UgJ01fuY0@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 19:57:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Walter Wong To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] a15.2 - can't configure multicast? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Short summary: 1.4b2 works; a15.2 fails with "can't configure multicast". Longer version: I compiled a15.2 with AFS enabled using cc under Solaris 2.5.1 (Generic_103640-08 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-1). However, when I try to start atalkd it is giving me an error message that it can't configure multicast. I tried unloading ddp with (rem_drv ddp) and then manually adding the ddp module from the baes 1.4b2 distribution and running the atalkd from a15.2. Same error. I then reloaded the ddp driver from a15.2 and then tried to start the atalkd from 1.4b2 and that worked. I recompiled with gcc instead of cc and recompiled with cc -g but unfortunately it isn't just an optimization/cc bug. Oh, netstat -rn properly shows the multicast route. Walter From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 9 21:54:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA20694; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:54:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA20689; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:54:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA24340; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:54:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA24337 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:54:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA24328 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:54:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01570; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 18:54:33 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA27963; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 18:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 18:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199709100154.SAA27963@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: wcw+@CMU.EDU CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <0o5S9n200UgJ01fuY0@andrew.cmu.edu> (message from Walter Wong on Tue, 9 Sep 1997 19:57:39 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] a15.2 - can't configure multicast? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu doh! i just realized what's happening here. i forgot that svr4 (== solaris in this case) doesn't set up things correctly for addmulti. i'll make a patch available in the near future. the next patch will change the dsi read interface a little as well in preparation for the day when mmap becomes a useful thing to do. given the nature of macos, mmap isn't likely to provide significant gains until the pre-emptiveness of rhapsody appears. actually, mmap works out pretty well on linux machines, but it sucks horribly under sunos 4.1.4. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 9 22:02:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id WAA21223; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 22:02:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id WAA21215; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 22:02:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id WAA21212; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 22:02:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with SMTP id VAA20514; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:50:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (bulk_mailer v1.5+); Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:50:05 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-release-list id VAA20507; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:50:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-release@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu id VAA20499; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:50:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk-release@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu id VAA20473; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:49:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk-release-members@umich.edu id VAA20471; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:49:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id VAA20465; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 21:49:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709100149.VAA20465@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: netatalk@umich.edu To: netatalk-release@umich.edu cc: netatalk@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] [netatalk-release] file server trouble Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 21:49:26 -0400 X-Sender: epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The netatalk webpages live on an afs server run by a different division, here at UM. We're waiting for them to come back up. The message is a 404Forbidden, until then. Sorry about the announcement posting previously. Please try again, soon. EV AN From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 9 22:22:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id WAA22687; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 22:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id WAA22677; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 22:22:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id WAA22673; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 22:22:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id WAA22662; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 22:22:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709100222.WAA22662@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: patrick finerty cc: epcordes@umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] [netatalk-release] MacOS8 Patch Available In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 Sep 1997 16:14:08 MDT." <199709092214.QAA25190@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 22:22:44 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: patrick finerty > To: epcordes@umich.edu > 1.4b2 has been out (it seems like) forever and in the meanwhile > asun@zoology.washington.edu has been releasing patch after patch for > it. when is 1.4b2 at least going to move to b3 and incorporate some of > these items in the official distribution? The move to b3 will follow a limited release of netatalk for solaris. The limited release for solaris is coming shortly. We like to be reasonable bug free, and fairly tested before we release, even an alpha. As far as patches go, we'd rather the official/main netatalk distribution didn't become a member of the patch-a-week club. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 10 10:36:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA29185; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:36:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA29178; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:35:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA29405; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:35:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA29327 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:35:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.rp-online.de (ns.rp-online.de [149.221.1.194]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA29272 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:35:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from helmix.rp-online.de (hf.rp-online.de [149.221.232.12]) by ns.rp-online.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA10816; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:34:57 +0200 (METDST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970910163648.0303b8dc@rp-online.de> X-Sender: hfranzke@rp-online.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:36:48 +0200 To: Ugo Delchini From: Helmut Franzke Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problem under Linux 2.0.30 Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <199709070850.KAA05518@lpnp09.in2p3.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! At 10:50 07.09.97 +0200, you wrote: >Hi, > >thanx for this software, it is very usefull. > >I installed netatalk under Linux 2.0.30 on two LANs. > >The first one has only one old Mac II and everything works fine, i can mount >volumes on the Mac II (system 7.5.5). > >The second one has a dozen of PowerMac. Here there is a problem. I can start >all services (atlkd, afpd, ...) and everything seem to be ok. When >i use the nbplkup command, there is only one printer (Fiery), and one old >LC630 Mac that are detected by the lookup program on the local network. > >When i try to aecho one of these, it works fine. But i cannot see >the exported volumes from any Mac, even the LC630. The PowerMacs are >running the 7.5.3 system. I did not try to see printing services >from the Macs. > --- snip --- I got the same problem yesterday and could (maybe) fix it today. I'm running Linux 2.0.30 and netatalk-1.4b2-asun-2.0a15.2. If I have a the configuration file afpd.conf with no entries (unless comments) I get the error. If I start afpd without any afpd.conf (just deleted) it works. Does anyone have an explanation? Regards Helmut Franzke From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 10 10:46:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA29686; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA29678; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA04459; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:46:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA04446 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ux4.sp.cs.cmu.edu (UX4.SP.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.198.104]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id KAA04436 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:46:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from FISH.PRODIGY.CS.CMU.EDU by ux4.sp.cs.cmu.edu id aa22503; 10 Sep 97 10:13 EDT X-Sender: will@ux4.sp.cs.cmu.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199709100222.WAA22662@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: Your message of "Tue, 09 Sep 1997 16:14:08 MDT." <199709092214.QAA25190@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:13:07 -0400 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: William Uther Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk versions/patches Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >> From: patrick finerty >> To: epcordes@umich.edu > >> 1.4b2 has been out (it seems like) forever and in the meanwhile >> asun@zoology.washington.edu has been releasing patch after patch for >> it. when is 1.4b2 at least going to move to b3 and incorporate some of >> these items in the official distribution? > >The move to b3 will follow a limited release of netatalk for solaris. >The limited release for solaris is coming shortly. We like to be >reasonable bug free, and fairly tested before we release, even an >alpha. As far as patches go, we'd rather the official/main netatalk >distribution didn't become a member of the patch-a-week club. > >:wes http://www.ccil.org/~esr/writings/cathedral.html has an interesting study of 'the patch-a-week club'. They favour a two separate release model. One release is the 'bleeding edge' release which might be released more than once a day during high intensity periods. The other release is the 'known stable' release that lags behind the earlier release with only known stable stuff in it. It seems that we almost have that model for netatalk already. Adrian does the bleeding edge release (which I can't seem to get to compile easily). And 'the maintainers' release the 'known stable' release. The only difference is that things don't seem to be migrating from Adrian's release to the 'official' release (for a variety of reasons - not the fault of any one party). \x/ill :-} William Uther "When I die I want to go quietly, will@cs.cmu.edu in my sleep like my Grandfather, Dept. of Computer Science, not screaming like the passengers in his car" Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~will/ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 10 11:08:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA01808; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:08:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA01803; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:08:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA16305; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:08:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA15866 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brastias.cs.geneseo.edu (brastias.cs.geneseo.edu [137.238.8.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA15209 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:06:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [137.238.8.73] (wagner.cs.geneseo.edu [137.238.8.73]) by brastias.cs.geneseo.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA01137; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:05:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:05:44 -0400 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: kann Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems with "Too many files open" Cc: kann@cs.geneseo.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am running 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 and it works mostly well. The problem is that for two of our classes we need to use Netscape 4.0 and CodeWarrior 12. The problem is that both of these programs seem to open a lot of files and this does not seem to work under Netatalk and Solaris. It does, however, work under AppleShare IP 5.0. The configuration: PowerMac 7600/132 or Performa 6115 running System 7.5.5 OpenTransport 1.1.2 AppleShare 3.7.2 Netscape Communicator 4.0.1 CodeWarrior IDE 2.0 SPARCstation 10 running Solaris 2.5.1 Netatalk 1.4b2 To see the problem, copy a CodeWarrior project file to a netatalk file server and try to open it with IDE 2.0 or copy the Netscape user's folder (Netscape Preferences & such) to the netatalk file server and open the Netscape Preferences from the file server. Any guidance on this problem would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Kirk Anne SUNY Geneseo Computer Science Dept. SUNY Geneseo Geneseo, NY 14454 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 10 13:27:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA07263; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:27:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA07257; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:27:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA05102; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:27:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA05098 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:27:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (YLDXggehkg7DD7tfCyt1CQB28uSOI2dF@zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA05087 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:26:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04803; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:26:30 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA28520; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:26:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:26:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199709101726.KAA28520@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: kann@cs.geneseo.edu CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from kann on Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:05:44 -0400) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems with "Too many files open" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am running 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 and it works mostly well. The problem is that for two of our classes we need to use Netscape 4.0 and CodeWarrior 12. The problem is that both of these programs seem to open a lot of files and this does not seem to work under Netatalk and Solaris. It does, however, work under AppleShare IP 5.0. up the system-wide max number of open files and see if you still have problems. you need to do it system-wide because each afpd session runs as a particular user. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 10 14:08:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA09651; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:08:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA09647; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:08:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA13625; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:08:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAB13609 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:08:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from s5-25-55.student.washington.edu (S5-25-55.student.washington.edu [128.95.25.55]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id OAA13574 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:08:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from xyzzy@localhost) by s5-25-55.student.washington.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA07931; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:08:15 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:08:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Trent Piepho To: Netatalk mailing list Subject: [netatalk-admins] pap hangs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm running netatalk-1.4b2 on a solaris 5.5 machine. I have pap setup with sun's screwy sysv lp queue system. It works most of the time, but sometime it hangs. I don't think the problem is with the LP stuff, as there is a perfectly good postscript file in the queue directory and a command like: pap -c -s /tmp/papstatus -p LaserWriter 630:LaserWriter /var/spool/.../502-1 is running. The light on the printer is flashing like it does when it is receiving data, except the print job has already printed! pap is just sitting there hung on something. papstatus reports: status: busy; source: EtherTalk Is this some known bug? Could it be some problem with defective firmware in the printer? What happens if I do something like this? pap somefile & echo "more data" >> somefile Will pap be able to handle more data getting added to the file before it starts printing? Maybe I'll try some tests. |Gazing up to the breeze of the heavens \ on a quest, meaning, reason | |came to be, how it begun \ all alone in the family of the sun | |curiosity teasing everyone \ on our home, third stone from the sun. | |Trent Piepho (xyzzy@u.washington.edu) -- Metallica | From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 10 16:54:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA15457; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:54:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA15452; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:54:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA02559; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA02512 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:54:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-relay.calypso.net (mail-relay.calypso.net [194.52.189.125]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA01850 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 16:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nic.calypso.net (nic.calypso.net [194.52.189.130]) by mail-relay.calypso.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id WAA23689; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 22:41:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from spiff.Hax.SE (p183.sto2.calypso.net [194.198.91.183]) by nic.calypso.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA16394; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 22:47:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from spiff (spiff.Hax.SE [192.71.144.3]) by spiff.Hax.SE (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA04367; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 22:52:47 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199709102052.WAA04367@spiff.Hax.SE> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 22:52:46 +0200 (MET DST) From: Thomas Tornblom Reply-To: Thomas Tornblom Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] pap hangs To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, xyzzy@u.washington.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-MD5: vxQ6yKTktSKSxugektbdIQ== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.0 CDE Version 1.2 SunOS 5.6 sun4c sparc Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > I'm running netatalk-1.4b2 on a solaris 5.5 machine. I have pap setup wi= th > sun's screwy sysv lp queue system. It works most of the time, but someti= me it > hangs. I don't think the problem is with the LP stuff, as there is a > perfectly good postscript file in the queue directory and a command like: >=20 > pap -c -s /tmp/papstatus -p LaserWriter 630:LaserWriter /var/spool/.../50= 2-1 >=20 > is running. The light on the printer is flashing like it does when it is > receiving data, except the print job has already printed! pap is just=20 > sitting there hung on something. papstatus reports: >=20 > status: busy; source: EtherTalk >=20 > Is this some known bug? Could it be some problem with defective firmware > in the printer? >=20 Yes, this is a classic one that bit me for along time.=20 Add a '-E' to the command line and pap will work around the bugs in the pri= nter.=20 This goes for, I believe, all AppleTalk connected Apple printers. Real life: Thomas T=F6rnblom Email: Thomas.Tornblom@Hax.S= E Snail mail: HB Hax Phone: +46 18 290 290 Banvallsv=E4gen 14 Fax: +46 18 290 291 S - 754 40 Uppsala, Sweden Cellular: +46 708 323118 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 10 17:14:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA16447; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:14:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA16441; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:14:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA20916; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:14:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA20271 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:13:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cc00ms.unity.ncsu.edu (cc00ms.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.1.35]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA20215 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:13:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [152.1.11.13] (ivanova.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.11.13]) by cc00ms.unity.ncsu.edu (8.8.4/US19Dec96) with ESMTP id RAA26064 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:13:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: user@hesiod (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 17:13:10 -0400 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Everette Gray Allen Subject: [netatalk-admins] papd, nbp and protected queues... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am running papd(1.3.3) from Sun0S 4.1.x and can create print queues just fine using papd, lpd, and pap with ps filters (ifwmrev, ofpap, etc). All works well. So now I want to tell my laserwriters (16/600) to not advertise theirselves over nbp and only talk using ethertalk to my pap server. I have a ps file which I can send to the printer to tell it to advertise itself as Lazerwriter not Laserwriter which will make it invisible to a "standard" chooser. This would work (because I could tell .paprc to talk to "My printer:LazerWriter@My Zone" but this change will not survive a reboot of the printer. With Apple Print Spooler and Netware APCon a "daemon" process listens to nbp broadcast and if it sees a printer which it is spooling for the "daemon" process tells the printer to stop advertising. I could not see a functional equiv. in netatalk. Did I miss something or does anyone know how to assign a permanent AppleTalk node number to a Laserwriter and have it talk only to the pap server (like a host access list)? Thanks in advance. Everette Gray Allen Consultant IV Box 7109 NCState Campus Computing Services Raleigh, NC 27695-7109 919-515-2517 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 10 21:05:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA25427; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 21:05:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA25423; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 21:05:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA09560; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 21:05:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA09551 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 21:05:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from s5-25-55.student.washington.edu (S5-25-55.student.washington.edu [128.95.25.55]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id VAA09530 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 21:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from xyzzy@localhost) by s5-25-55.student.washington.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA08563; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 18:05:40 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 18:05:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Trent Piepho To: Netatalk mailing list Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk & solaris 2.6 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I checked the mail archive and didn't see anything about this. Will netatalk work on solaris 2.6? I know a linux kernel module from 2.0 isn't going to work on 2.1 and though maybe solaris would have the same trouble maintaining backward compatibility for kernel drivers. |Gazing up to the breeze of the heavens \ on a quest, meaning, reason | |came to be, how it begun \ all alone in the family of the sun | |curiosity teasing everyone \ on our home, third stone from the sun. | |Trent Piepho (xyzzy@u.washington.edu) -- Metallica | From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Sep 11 17:19:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA18624; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:19:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA18620; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:18:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA11138; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA11106 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:18:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (0@runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.144.15]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA11073 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 17:18:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fhul02.rz.fh-ulm.de by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with SMTP id QAA00967; Thu, 11 Sep 1997 16:15:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by fhul02.rz.fh-ulm.de (5.57/BelWue-1.1+DEC) id AA24099; Thu, 11 Sep 97 22:15:25 +0200 Received: from HUGO/SpoolDir by hugo.rz.fh-ulm.de (Mercury 1.31); 11 Sep 97 22:15:24 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by HUGO (Mercury 1.31); 11 Sep 97 22:15:21 +0100 Received: from PENTIUM.sam-net.de by hugo.rz.fh-ulm.de (Mercury 1.31); 11 Sep 97 22:15:11 +0100 Message-Id: <34184E52.3367@tao.de> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 22:03:00 +0200 From: Stephan Bauer X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Can4t see volumes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by felix.rz.fh-ulm.de id WAA17387 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I can=B4t see the volumes that are listet in AppleVolumes.system The file lools like this: # # This file is read before (after if -u is specified) the user's # AppleVolume file. Add extension mappings and volumes here. # /usr/local/ local # default translation -- note that CR <-> LF translation is done on all # files of type TEXT. The first line turns off translation for files of # unknown type, the second turns this translation on. . BINA UNIX # . TEXT UNIX I can only see the volume with the private stuff. Thanks Stephan From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Sep 12 02:00:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id CAA16235; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 02:00:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id CAA16221; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 02:00:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA27954; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 02:00:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA27946 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 02:00:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kiste.pingnet.de (router.pingnet.de [194.148.12.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id CAA27925 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 02:00:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kiste.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id IAA00899 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 08:00:21 +0200 Received: from [194.148.12.130] (powermac.poc.pingnet.de [194.148.12.130]) by leela.poc.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA05659 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 00:10:48 +0200 X-Sender: poc@leela.poc.pingnet.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <34184E52.3367@tao.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 00:07:59 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Can4t see volumes Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, >I can´t see the volumes that are listet in AppleVolumes.system Where does your file reside? And - please - use right quotes, not french accent. Thank you. :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Sep 12 04:05:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id EAA18788; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 04:05:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id EAA18784; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 04:05:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA14995; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 04:05:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA14993 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 04:05:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from afrika.iit.upco.es (afrika.iit.upco.es [130.206.67.115]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA14972 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 04:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (jorgegv@localhost) by afrika.iit.upco.es (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA26063; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 09:55:23 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: afrika.iit.upco.es: jorgegv owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 09:55:23 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jorge Gonzalez To: Stephan Bauer cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Can4t see volumes In-Reply-To: <34184E52.3367@tao.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 11 Sep 1997, Stephan Bauer wrote: : Hi, :=20 : I can=B4t see the volumes that are listet in AppleVolumes.system :=20 : The file lools like this: :=20 :=20 : # : # This file is read before (after if -u is specified) the user's : # AppleVolume file. Add extension mappings and volumes here. : # :=20 : /usr/local/ local :=20 : # default translation -- note that CR <-> LF translation is done on all : # files of type TEXT. The first line turns off translation for files of : # unknown type, the second turns this translation on. : . BINA UNIX : # . TEXT UNIX :=20 :=20 : I can only see the volume with the private stuff. :=20 Looks like you have a .AppleVolumes file in your home directory. Check this out, if you have that file and it's not correctly setup, you may not be abl= e to access even your home directory. If you have a .AppleVolumes, netatalk doesn't read AppleVolumes.system. -- Jorge Gonz=E1lez =20 Instituto de Investigaci=F3n Tecnol=F3gica - UPCo --- Madrid (SPAIN) http://www.iit.upco.es/~jorgegv/ Home: jorgegv@arrakis.es IEEE: jorgegv@computer.org Phone: +34 15 41 96 41 --- Fax: +34 15 42 31 76 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Sep 15 22:05:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id WAA07137; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 22:05:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id WAA07124; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 22:05:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA03157; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 22:05:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA03141 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 22:05:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crashprone.allegheny.edu (crashprone.auhs.edu [192.54.238.27]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA03119 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 22:05:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by crashprone.allegheny.edu with smtp id m0xAn0n-0004HuC (Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Mon, 15 Sep 1997 22:05:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 22:05:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Brennan Reply-To: Andrew Brennan To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu cc: linux-atalk@netspace.org Subject: [netatalk-admins] I'm missing something. [long] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Ok. I have here a Pentium/90 running Linux (kernel is a freshly- compiled 2.0.30 with Appletalk in the kernel, not modularized). 3Com Etherlink III card inside. I also have a clean network -- courtesy of an 8 port hub with only the Linux box and a portable Mac connected. I have had nothing but difficulty with the Debian install of the netatalk package (mildly untrue, but you'll find out where I'm going momentarily) and decided to get the 1.4b2 source and load it in by hand. Installed it, rebooted and ran rc.atalk with the zones I need in the /usr/local/atalk/etc/atalkd.conf file. eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 500-502 -addr 500.133 -zone SanAndreas ... and once again, I see no zone information and my atalkd.conf has been rewritten to: eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -addr 500.133 Looking at the tips sheet, I see possible reasons for problems. o non-multicast Ethernet cards. ... but the card works fine for afpd and appears to advertise the system correctly, so this one isn't(?) it. o Large range of defined networks on cable segment. ... I tested with a disconnected hub and a single Mac portable (even had it disconnected for a few tries). Not this one. o No router on network, atalkd can't assign it's own number. ... it's *never* had difficulty assigning itself an address. o No DDP support in kernel. ... (above) fresh kernel, shouldn't be the problem. o Second start of atalkd. ... I'm rebooting between tries, so this one isn't it. I'm out of ideas. Possibly the card doesn't support multicast completely? IFCONFIG reports it as having MULTICAST enabled, but maybe it's lying? It also reports "Ethertalk Phase 2 addr 500/133", so I don't think it's my card. (also visible afpd activity from the portable Mac) This is probably related ... getzones -l, getzones -m and even getzones 500.133 (above - the netatalk box itself) all respond with a "atp_rresp: Connection timed out" error. At the same time, aecho 500.133 reports a 0% packet loss (and can echo the other Mac w/o any loss as well). I would really like to have this system act as an AppleTalk router (we need one on this segment) but it's refusing me at every turn. Anyone see something obvious that I've missed?? andrew. (brennan@auhs.edu) From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 16 09:15:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA02268; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 09:15:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.144.15]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA01848; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 09:14:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id HAA27816; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 07:14:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA08217; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 07:13:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA08215 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 07:13:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slacker.design.mindspring.net (slacker.design.mindspring.net [207.69.192.8]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA08210 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 07:13:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (pspierce@localhost) by slacker.design.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA07224; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 07:18:02 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 07:18:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Scott Pierce To: Andrew Brennan cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, linux-atalk@netspace.org Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] I'm missing something. [long] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I had difficulty at one point until I realized I didn't have multicasting either compiled into the kernel or as a module. So the card could support it but the kernel couldn't. You will want to check your kernel for that and of course the ddp. If not, recompile. I would compile multicasting support vs. a module. Patrick Scott Pierce pspierce@mindspring.com CGI Programming Mindspring Enterprises On Mon, 15 Sep 1997, Andrew Brennan wrote: > Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 22:05:09 -0400 (EDT) > From: Andrew Brennan > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Cc: linux-atalk@netspace.org > Subject: [netatalk-admins] I'm missing something. [long] > > Ok. I have here a Pentium/90 running Linux (kernel is a freshly- > compiled 2.0.30 with Appletalk in the kernel, not modularized). > 3Com Etherlink III card inside. I also have a clean network -- > courtesy of an 8 port hub with only the Linux box and a portable > Mac connected. > > I have had nothing but difficulty with the Debian install of the > netatalk package (mildly untrue, but you'll find out where I'm > going momentarily) and decided to get the 1.4b2 source and load > it in by hand. Installed it, rebooted and ran rc.atalk with the > zones I need in the /usr/local/atalk/etc/atalkd.conf file. > > eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 500-502 -addr 500.133 -zone SanAndreas > > ... and once again, I see no zone information and my atalkd.conf > has been rewritten to: > > eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -addr 500.133 > > Looking at the tips sheet, I see possible reasons for problems. > > o non-multicast Ethernet cards. > ... but the card works fine for afpd and appears to advertise > the system correctly, so this one isn't(?) it. > o Large range of defined networks on cable segment. > ... I tested with a disconnected hub and a single Mac portable > (even had it disconnected for a few tries). Not this one. > o No router on network, atalkd can't assign it's own number. > ... it's *never* had difficulty assigning itself an address. > o No DDP support in kernel. > ... (above) fresh kernel, shouldn't be the problem. > o Second start of atalkd. > ... I'm rebooting between tries, so this one isn't it. > > I'm out of ideas. Possibly the card doesn't support multicast > completely? IFCONFIG reports it as having MULTICAST enabled, > but maybe it's lying? It also reports "Ethertalk Phase 2 addr > 500/133", so I don't think it's my card. (also visible afpd > activity from the portable Mac) > > This is probably related ... getzones -l, getzones -m and even > getzones 500.133 (above - the netatalk box itself) all respond > with a "atp_rresp: Connection timed out" error. At the same > time, aecho 500.133 reports a 0% packet loss (and can echo the > other Mac w/o any loss as well). > > I would really like to have this system act as an AppleTalk > router (we need one on this segment) but it's refusing me at > every turn. Anyone see something obvious that I've missed?? > > andrew. (brennan@auhs.edu) > > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 16 09:19:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA03161; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 09:19:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA02874; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 09:18:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA17930; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 09:18:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA17911 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 09:18:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at (germ2.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA16510 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 09:15:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from buster.retti.at (internet@pc1-c608.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.17]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.3/8.7.3 (l 3)) with ESMTP id PAA06932; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 15:14:42 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (m610.retti.at [192.168.0.13]) by buster.retti.at (8.8.3/8.8.3 (GR v 1.1)) with ESMTP id PAA00613; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 15:11:03 +0200 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 15:11:03 +0200 X-Sender: gregor@mail.retti.at Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Andrew Brennan , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Gregor Retti Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] I'm missing something. [long] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 22:05 Uhr -0400 15.09.1997, Andrew Brennan wrote: > Ok. I have here a Pentium/90 running Linux (kernel is a freshly- > compiled 2.0.30 with Appletalk in the kernel, not modularized). > 3Com Etherlink III card inside. I also have a clean network -- > courtesy of an 8 port hub with only the Linux box and a portable > Mac connected. > > I have had nothing but difficulty with the Debian install of the > netatalk package (mildly untrue, but you'll find out where I'm > going momentarily) and decided to get the 1.4b2 source and load > it in by hand. Installed it, rebooted and ran rc.atalk with the > zones I need in the /usr/local/atalk/etc/atalkd.conf file. > > eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 500-502 -addr 500.133 -zone SanAndreas > > ... and once again, I see no zone information and my atalkd.conf > has been rewritten to: > > eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -addr 500.133 > > Looking at the tips sheet, I see possible reasons for problems. > > o non-multicast Ethernet cards. > ... but the card works fine for afpd and appears to advertise > the system correctly, so this one isn't(?) it. > o Large range of defined networks on cable segment. > ... I tested with a disconnected hub and a single Mac portable > (even had it disconnected for a few tries). Not this one. > o No router on network, atalkd can't assign it's own number. > ... it's *never* had difficulty assigning itself an address. > o No DDP support in kernel. > ... (above) fresh kernel, shouldn't be the problem. > o Second start of atalkd. > ... I'm rebooting between tries, so this one isn't it. > > I'm out of ideas. Possibly the card doesn't support multicast > completely? IFCONFIG reports it as having MULTICAST enabled, > but maybe it's lying? It also reports "Ethertalk Phase 2 addr > 500/133", so I don't think it's my card. (also visible afpd > activity from the portable Mac) > > This is probably related ... getzones -l, getzones -m and even > getzones 500.133 (above - the netatalk box itself) all respond > with a "atp_rresp: Connection timed out" error. At the same > time, aecho 500.133 reports a 0% packet loss (and can echo the > other Mac w/o any loss as well). > > I would really like to have this system act as an AppleTalk > router (we need one on this segment) but it's refusing me at > every turn. Anyone see something obvious that I've missed?? > > andrew. (brennan@auhs.edu) you need more than 1 device (eg. eth0, eth1 oder eth0, dummy) to have zones defined and to have an appletalk router you need at least to segments to route from one to the other. cheers gregor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ---------------- http://germ2.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 16 12:24:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA12669; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 12:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA12659; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 12:24:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA01559; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 12:24:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA00902 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 12:23:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA00771 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 12:23:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA25189 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 17:22:58 +0100 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 17:22:57 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] I'm missing something. [long] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 16 Sep 1997, Gregor Retti wrote: > you need more than 1 device (eg. eth0, eth1 oder eth0, dummy) to have zones > defined and to have an appletalk router you need at least to segments to > route from one to the other. Not true - you can have a router with only one interface (it won't do much routing though) and having zones defined is dependent only on having a at least one seed router on the network. -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 16 18:40:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA26992; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 18:40:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA26988; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 18:40:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA06768; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 18:40:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA06748 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 18:40:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA06716 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 18:40:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from air.steve.net (slip166-72-201-80.vt.us.ibm.net [166.72.201.80]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA143352; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 22:40:05 GMT Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 18:42:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven N. Hirsch" X-Sender: hirsch@air.steve.net To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu cc: linux-atalk@netspace.org Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] I'm missing something. [shorter] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 16 Sep 1997, Patrick Scott Pierce wrote: > I had difficulty at one point until I realized I didn't have multicasting > either compiled into the kernel or as a module. So the card could support > it but the kernel couldn't. You will want to check your kernel for that > and of course the ddp. If not, recompile. I would compile multicasting > support vs. a module. > Argh. I was just bitten by this last evening. The original pre-2.0.30 kernels which I ran for netatalk hacking had 'dummy' drivers with multicasting functionality active. I knew that the 2.1.x kernels ifdef'ed this out (never understood why), but I _didn't_ realize that the change propogated back to the 2.0 series! Quick Patch (thanks to Brad Johnson): --- linux/drivers/net/dummy.c.2126 Sun Feb 2 07:18:39 1997 +++ linux/drivers/net/dummy.c Thu Feb 20 12:24:20 1997 @@ -29,7 +29,7 @@ */ /* To have statistics (just packets sent) define this */ -#undef DUMMY_STATS +#define DUMMY_STATS 1 #include @@ -70,6 +70,9 @@ return 0; } +static void dummy_set_multicast_list(struct device *dev) +{ +} int dummy_init(struct device *dev) { @@ -95,6 +98,7 @@ ether_setup(dev); dev->tx_queue_len = 0; dev->flags |= IFF_NOARP; + dev->set_multicast_list = &dummy_set_multicast_list; return 0; } This applies to 2.0.31-pre9 with some minor fuzz. Does anyone have hardware and/or jumper information on the COPS/DayStar Digital LT200? COPS' website had the port addressing settings, but nothing on the IRQ jumpers. Steve From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 17 02:44:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id CAA08786; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 02:44:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id CAA08781; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 02:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA14030; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 02:44:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA14028 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 02:44:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cyberverse.com (talon.cyberverse.com [204.140.176.11]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id CAA14024 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 02:44:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (envy.42.net [207.151.5.139]) by mail.cyberverse.com (8.8.5/mail) with SMTP id XAA28816 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 1997 23:44:21 -0700 Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 23:40:40 +0000 Message-ID: <19970916234040.PM-irkal6us@Adam.BeOS> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Adam 1.2 on BeOS Subject: [netatalk-admins] Config question From: Conner To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu For the life of me, I cannot get netatalk to export anything other than home directories. I have tried adding other volumes to the AppleVolumes.system, to the AppleVolumes.default and connecting as guest, and to a ~/AppleVolumes file. The directories which I am trying to export all have proper permissions. Surely I am missing something obvious? Frustratingly enough, exports of the home directory work beautifully. The system is a pentium running RedHat linux 4.1, kernel version 2.0.27. Thanks. -Conner From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 17 12:02:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA03351; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 12:02:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA03346; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 12:02:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA22743; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 12:02:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA22723 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 12:02:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.bbp.ch (eunet-gw.bbp.ch [194.124.253.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id MAA22466 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 12:01:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from donald by mail.bbp.ch (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA23185; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 18:01:39 +0200 Message-ID: <341FFEE2.3775@bbp.ch> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 18:01:38 +0200 From: Nick Smith Organization: BBP Switzerland X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; SunOS 5.3 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems starting atalkd under Solaris 2.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I have a Sun Enterprise 150 Server running Solaris 2.5.1. I have built netatalk-1.4b2 (with the SUN C compiler and the solaris patch for 1b2). Now on startup I get the following errors : WARNING: DDP:tpiIoctlData - Can't SetAddr for Sep 17 13:59:27 obiwan atalkd[13065]: setifaddr: le0: Invalid argument Sep 17 13:59:51 obiwan afpd[13075]: Can't register obiwan:AFPServer@* Has anyone pointers to what I'm screwing up / advice? Any help will be most welcome... Thanks in Advance, -- Nick Smith - Software Engineer - Biveroni Batschelet Partners - Switzerland From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 17 16:24:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA11680; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 16:24:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA11675; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 16:23:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA02697; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 16:24:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA02571 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 16:23:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cc00ms.unity.ncsu.edu (cc00ms.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.1.35]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA02332 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 16:23:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [152.1.11.13] (ivanova.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.11.13]) by cc00ms.unity.ncsu.edu (8.8.4/US19Dec96) with ESMTP id QAA01545 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 16:23:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: user@hesiod Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 16:23:15 -0400 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Everette Gray Allen Subject: [netatalk-admins] papd and desktop printing.... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have been trying to work with desktop printing under MacOS 8.0 with papd. I can print from most applications except quark and illustrator and the only difference I can see is when printing to the "live" printer I can get desktop printing to give correct info and update info and download a list of fonts. I can not get the correct info from the papd queue. Also DTP tells me when I Update info in the printer status dialog that I have the incorrect ppd for this printer (the queue) to chooseit if I say choose it asks me to locate the ppd on the mac, I pick the correct one and it takes it but will repeat if I press update button again. I have a ppd called LaserWriter 16600 PS in /usr/spool/wayne and my papd.conf is Wayne:\ :pr=wayne:op=root:pd=/usr/spool/lpd/wayne/LaserWriter\ 16600\ PS: (I have also tried not specifing and using .ppd in same dir) Anyone have any Ideas? Everette Gray Allen Consultant IV Box 7109 NCState Campus Computing Services Raleigh, NC 27695-7109 919-515-2517 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 17 21:43:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA22152; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 21:43:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA22147; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 21:43:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA09731; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 21:43:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA09712 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 21:43:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from india.bgsu.edu (india.bgsu.edu [129.1.75.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA09693 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 21:43:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kvrao@localhost) by india.bgsu.edu (8.8.4/8.7.5) with SMTP id VAA03119 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 21:42:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 21:42:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "K.V. Rao" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Please add my name to your netatalk-admin mailing list., I am having trouble in compiling the netatalk for solaris2.5. Can I find the compiled binaries?? Thanks. K.V. Rao kvrao@bgnet.bgsu.edu (Preferred e-mail address). From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Sep 18 02:38:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id CAA10030; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:38:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id CAA10026; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:37:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA28232; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:37:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA28226 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:37:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at (germ2.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id CAA28221 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:37:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from buster.retti.at (internet@pc1-c608.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.17]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.3/8.7.3 (l 3)) with ESMTP id IAA24710; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 08:37:47 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (m610.retti.at [192.168.0.13]) by buster.retti.at (8.8.3/8.8.3 (GR v 1.1)) with ESMTP id IAA01946; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 08:34:22 +0200 Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 08:34:22 +0200 X-Sender: gregor@mail.retti.at Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Everette Gray Allen , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Gregor Retti Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] papd and desktop printing.... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 16:23 Uhr -0400 17.09.1997, Everette Gray Allen wrote: >I have been trying to work with desktop printing under MacOS 8.0 with papd. >I can print from most applications except quark and illustrator and the >only difference I can see is when printing to the "live" printer I can get >desktop printing to give correct info and update info and download a list >of fonts. I can not get the correct info from the papd queue. Also DTP >tells me when I Update info in the printer status dialog that I have the >incorrect ppd for this printer (the queue) to chooseit if I say choose it >asks me to locate the ppd on the mac, I pick the correct one and it takes >it but will repeat if I press update button again. I have a ppd called >LaserWriter 16600 PS in /usr/spool/wayne and my >papd.conf is >Wayne:\ > :pr=wayne:op=root:pd=/usr/spool/lpd/wayne/LaserWriter\ 16600\ PS: >(I have also tried not specifing and using .ppd in same dir) >Anyone have any Ideas? > did you try it with a name without spaces, eg. lw16600ps.ppd. of course you have to rename the file and change papd.conf. greetings gregor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ---------------- http://germ2.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Sep 18 07:53:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA27012; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 07:53:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.bbp.ch (eunet-gw.bbp.ch [194.124.253.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with SMTP for id HAA27008; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 07:53:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.bbp.ch (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA25557; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 13:53:27 +0200 Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 13:53:27 +0200 From: nms@bbp.ch (Nick Smith) Message-Id: <199709181153.NAA25557@mail.bbp.ch > To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Can see anyfiles with Solaris 2.15.1 and netatalk-1.4b2 X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all, I have installed netatalk-1.4b2 (with Solaris patches) on our Sun Enterprise 150 Server. I have now atalkd running and can now attach to the volumes that are on the Sun. But I have two problems : 1) Our home directories are NFS mounted (using NIS+ and automount) and I get the following error in /var/adm/messages : Sep 18 13:39:48 obiwan afpd[16269]: getquota: mountp /home/fk fails 2) We see files in the mounted volumes from the UNIX side, but we don't see anything from the Mac side, even if we can create and copy files from the Mac into this volume. The directory is /tmp (world read and write access). Any help would be much appreciated as we are *nearly* working... Nick. -- Nick Smith - Software Engineer - Biveroni Batschelet Partners - Switzerland From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Sep 18 10:17:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA29831; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:17:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA29752; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:17:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA05363; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:17:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA05348 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:17:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pat.uio.no (pat.uio.no [129.240.2.50]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id KAA05310 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:16:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ulrik.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP) id <24969-0@pat.uio.no>; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:16:21 +0200 Received: from math.uio.no (eris.uio.no [129.240.222.69]) by gilgamesj.uio.no ; Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:16:19 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199709181416.QAA14563@gilgamesj.uio.no> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 05/05/96 To: "Patrick M. Frazer" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: ushare to netatalk resource fork conversion? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 01 Jul 1997 16:59:33 EDT." <33B96FB5.16D9@beacon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 16:16:18 +0200 From: Nicolai Langfeldt Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu "Patrick M. Frazer" tastet: > We have a bunch of old servers, all using IPT's UShare package to > provide net access to our Solaris filsystems. I also have a brand-new > file server (running Netatalk) with a RAID that I want to move all the > data onto. The problem: we're talking about over 50 gigs of data and > I'd need some killer Macs (which I don't have) to move that much data in > a reasonable amount of time. ... Hi, I have much the same problem. I'm just browsing the mailing list archive now to see if anyone had solved it already. Did you get any solution? Nicolai From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Sep 19 13:18:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA02922; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:18:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA02915; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:18:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA13583; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:18:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA13564 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:18:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.cs.ucr.edu (mail.cs.ucr.edu [138.23.169.107]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA13540 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:18:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beavis.ben.net (ppp-207-104-66-8.rvsd01.pacbell.net [207.104.66.8]) by mail.cs.ucr.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA17804 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 10:27:13 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970919101950.009f31e0@mail.cs.ucr.edu> X-Sender: bpayne@mail.cs.ucr.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 10:19:50 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Ben Payne Subject: [netatalk-admins] Samba Printing with pap... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm having a problem getting pap printing to work with samba. I know this isn't a samba list, but I thought someone here might have had this problem. when ever a print job come by way of samba, it hits ofpap and tryies to print it as text, the result is that nothing comes out of the printer at all. I'm not real familiar with lpd so the problem may be there. heres my printcap lp|Cool Printer|HP LaserJet 6P:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ :mx#0:\ :sh:\ :lp=/dev/null:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/lp/err-lpr:\ :if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/filter:\ :of=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filters/ofpap: filter is the provided filter that comes with redhat. I have tried removing that line and leaving the of line, with no success. I also tried removing the of line and making if read: :if=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filters/ifpap: but that didn't work either, any ideas -> Ben From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Sep 19 17:28:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA12404; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 17:28:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA12397; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 17:28:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA07402; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 17:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA07396 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 17:28:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA07388 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 17:28:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05554 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 14:27:41 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA11754; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 14:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 14:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199709192128.OAA11754@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] a16 patch available Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu well, i figured out a problem i had inadvertantly introduced as a consequence of blindly matching parameters instead of functions. anyways, i've made an a16 tar ball available at ftp.u.washington.edu:/public/asun that should fix problems w/ codewarrior (and probably others). it also fixes the solaris multicast problem. i'll make a diff against 1.4b2 shortly. this version also has a different dsi_read/write interface to facilitate usage of arbitrary buffers as well as stubs for an ad_mmap interface. let me know if you have any problems. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Sep 19 19:07:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA18162; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 19:07:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA18157; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 19:07:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA01614; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 19:07:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA01593 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 19:07:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tajin.cice.mx (tajin.cice.mx [148.230.37.100]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA01571 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 19:07:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mhaza@localhost) by tajin.cice.mx (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA27232 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 17:55:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 17:55:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Mario Haza To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Printing on solaris Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, i know this is not a new issue (for me is becasue i wasn't subscribed to this list) but i have a big deal here. I have been using netatalk on Linux for a long time but recently i have to make a UNIX (Sun) / Windows NT servers evaluation. So idecided to install netatalk on solaris 2.6 on a Ultra 1. For the file server it works pretty well but i can't configure the printing daemon (papd) on lpsched. Is this problem resolved? What are my chances? Thanks in advance. ************************************************************************* * _ * * Mario "Mago" Haza. / \ ___ * * Centro de Investigacion en Computacion Educativa \ \ /\_/ * * Coordinacion de Soporte Tecnico \ \ / / * * Research Center for Computing & Education \ \ / / * * Technical Support / O O \ * * | >o< | * * e-mail: mhaza@ua9000.dcc.anahuac.mx \ _[|]_ / * * mhaza@www.dcc.anahuac.mx ____{||}___{||}____ * * mhaza@tajin.cice.mx |_________________| * * | | * * Tel. (5) 627-0210 Ext. 8530 u 8527 | | * * Ciudad de Mexico (Mexico City) | | * * |___________| * * * ************************************************************************* From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Sep 19 20:35:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA20328; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 20:35:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id UAA20324; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 20:35:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA06531; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 20:35:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA06527 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 20:35:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cnrmail.lbl.gov (buster.lbl.gov [131.243.65.29]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA06523 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 20:35:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.3.9.20] by cnrmail.lbl.gov with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2); Fri, 19 Sep 1997 17:35:41 -0700 X-Sender: wright@cnrmail.lbl.gov Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199709192128.OAA11754@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 17:35:40 -0700 To: a sun , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Russ Wright Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] a16 patch available Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I still get the following message when trying to run /etc/init.d/atalk: starting appletalk daemons: hme0: can't configure multicast Do I have to turn on/off an option in Makefile? Russ At 2:28 PM -0700 9/19/97, a sun wrote: >well, i figured out a problem i had inadvertantly introduced as a >consequence of blindly matching parameters instead of >functions. anyways, i've made an a16 tar ball available at >ftp.u.washington.edu:/public/asun that should fix problems w/ >codewarrior (and probably others). it also fixes the solaris multicast >problem. i'll make a diff against 1.4b2 shortly. this version also has >a different dsi_read/write interface to facilitate usage of arbitrary >buffers as well as stubs for an ad_mmap interface. let me know if you >have any problems. > >-a From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Sep 20 07:26:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA18485; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 07:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA18481; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 07:26:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA28608; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 07:26:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA28604 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 07:26:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at (germ2.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA28594 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 07:26:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from buster.retti.at (internet@pc1-c608.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.17]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.3/8.7.3 (l 3)) with ESMTP id NAA23389; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 13:26:39 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (m610.retti.at [192.168.0.13]) by buster.retti.at (8.8.3/8.8.3 (GR v 1.1)) with ESMTP id NAA03476; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 13:19:09 +0200 Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 13:19:09 +0200 X-Sender: gregor@mail.retti.at Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970919101950.009f31e0@mail.cs.ucr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Ben Payne , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Gregor Retti Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Samba Printing with pap... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 10:19 Uhr -0700 19.09.1997, Ben Payne wrote: >I'm having a problem getting pap printing to work with samba. I know this >isn't a samba list, but I thought someone here might have had this problem. > when ever a print job come by way of samba, it hits ofpap and tryies to >print it as text, the result is that nothing comes out of the printer at >all. I'm not real familiar with lpd so the problem may be there. > >heres my printcap >lp|Cool Printer|HP LaserJet 6P:\ > :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ > :mx#0:\ > :sh:\ > :lp=/dev/null:\ > :lf=/var/spool/lpd/lp/err-lpr:\ > :if=/var/spool/lpd/lp/filter:\ > :of=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filters/ofpap: > >filter is the provided filter that comes with redhat. I have tried >removing that line and leaving the of line, with no success. I also tried >removing the of line and making if read: > > :if=/usr/local/atalk/etc/filters/ifpap: > >but that didn't work either, any ideas > >-> Ben did you enter: [laser] postscript = True in your smb.conf? cheers gregor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ---------------- http://germ2.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Sep 20 17:46:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA27461; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 17:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA27451; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 17:45:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA09972; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 17:45:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA09967 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 17:45:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from toastman.us.itd.umich.edu (toastman.us.itd.umich.edu [141.211.164.31]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA09961 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 17:45:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by toastman.us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with SMTP id RAA26781; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 17:48:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 17:48:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Venier X-Sender: scottven@toastman.us.itd.umich.edu To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Papd and authentication Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I was wondering if there was anyway to make papd require some form of authentication before accepting print jobs. I've looked in the man pages, the faq, and the list archive, but I couldn't find anything. Thanks. Scott ===================================================================== Scott Venier *ResComp Network Support Technician scottven@umich.edu *Consultant for Ingematics, scott@compu-aid.com a division of Compu-Aid, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Sep 20 20:46:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA29731; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 20:46:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id UAA29727; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 20:46:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA19568; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 20:46:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA19566 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 20:46:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.telapex.com (mail.telapex.com [206.155.159.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA19561 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 20:46:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from icarus.mlmorgan.dyn.ml.org ([206.30.54.149]) by mail.telapex.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA142 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 19:47:55 -0700 Received: from localhost (mlmorgan@localhost) by icarus.mlmorgan.dyn.ml.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA04484 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 1997 19:44:23 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 19:44:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Land Morgan Reply-To: michael.morgan@usa.net To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Printing to Mac-connected Imagewriter? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have an Apple Imagewriter II connected to the serial printer port of my Mac IIsi. Can I print to it using pap? The nbplkup does not show any :ImageWriter listings. I'd like to know whether I can make the ImageWriter II visible on the network. If so, what steps do I need to take? Thanks for any advice. Michael Land Morgan Michael.Morgan@usa.net http://MLMorgan.home.ml.org From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Sep 21 01:26:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id BAA11012; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 01:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id BAA11008; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 01:26:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA26829; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 01:27:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA26826 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 01:26:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.shreve.net (www.shreve.net [208.206.76.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id BAA26817 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 01:26:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.shreve.net (kheflin@www.shreve.net [208.206.76.5]) by www.shreve.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA03900 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 00:26:48 -0500 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 00:26:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Kevin Heflin To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] AppleShareIP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm not sure if this is the right place to be asking this, if not maybe point me in the right direction. Our Linux Admin. recently installed the latest version of Netatalk I believe it's called, which support AppleShareIP. I'm running MacOS8, when I try accessing the server via AppleshareIP, over the local Ethernet everything works great. However when trying to access over a PPP connection, downloads work fine, but uploading files to the server lock me up everytime. Any suggestion or comments would be appreciated. Kevin -------------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Heflin | ShreveNet, Inc. | Ph:318.222.2638 x103 VP/Mac Tech | 333 Texas St #619 | FAX:318.221.6612 kheflin@shreve.net | Shreveport, LA 71101 | http://www.shreve.net -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Sep 21 15:41:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA02051; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 15:41:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA02047; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 15:41:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA02912; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 15:41:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA02910 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 15:41:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA02887 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 15:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA30740; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 20:40:44 +0100 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 20:40:43 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Michael Land Morgan cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Printing to Mac-connected Imagewriter? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu If the ImageWriter has a simple serial port, then I don't think there is any way to share it on the network. If however it has a localtalk port then you might be able to share it using LocalTalk Bridge. This would make it visible on the network. However I don't think you could print to the ImageWriter from a unix system since AFAIK there are no QuickDraw filters available. On Sat, 20 Sep 1997, Michael Land Morgan wrote: > I have an Apple Imagewriter II connected to the serial printer port of my > Mac IIsi. Can I print to it using pap? The nbplkup does not show any > :ImageWriter listings. I'd like to know whether I can make the > ImageWriter II visible on the network. If so, what steps do I need to > take? Thanks for any advice. > > Michael Land Morgan > Michael.Morgan@usa.net > http://MLMorgan.home.ml.org > -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Sep 21 15:41:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA02089; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 15:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA02080; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 15:41:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA18803; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 15:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA18801 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 15:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA18788; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 15:41:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA30749; Sun, 21 Sep 1997 20:41:45 +0100 Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 20:41:44 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Scott Venier cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Papd and authentication In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Unfortunately not, since the pap protocol does not AFAIK have any provision for authentication or even for print logging. On Sat, 20 Sep 1997, Scott Venier wrote: > Hi, I was wondering if there was anyway to make papd require some form of > authentication before accepting print jobs. I've looked in the man pages, > the faq, and the list archive, but I couldn't find anything. > > Thanks. > > Scott > > > ===================================================================== > Scott Venier *ResComp Network Support Technician > scottven@umich.edu *Consultant for Ingematics, > scott@compu-aid.com a division of Compu-Aid, Inc. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Sep 22 11:21:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA10525; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 11:21:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA10521; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 11:21:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA25723; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 11:21:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA24586 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 11:20:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fhul02.rz.fh-ulm.de (Fhul02.rz.fh-ulm.de [141.59.42.15]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id LAA24513 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 11:20:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by fhul02.rz.fh-ulm.de (5.57/BelWue-1.1+DEC) id AA05466; Mon, 22 Sep 97 17:19:55 +0200 Received: from HUGO/SpoolDir by hugo.rz.fh-ulm.de (Mercury 1.31); 22 Sep 97 17:19:58 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by HUGO (Mercury 1.31); 22 Sep 97 17:19:34 +0100 Received: from PENTIUM.sam-net.de by hugo.rz.fh-ulm.de (Mercury 1.31); 22 Sep 97 17:19:30 +0100 Message-Id: <34268965.2EA3@tao.de> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:06:13 +0200 From: Stephan Bauer X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problem with papd and LPRng Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, when I'm printing the job is not started automatically. I am runing Linux 2.0.30 with netatalk 1.4b2. My printerdevices are lp0, lp1, lp2. When there is no device /dev/printer the syslog says: lp_conn_unix connect /dev/printer: No such file or directory lp_print: lp_conn_unix: No such file or directory When there is a device /dev/printer it says: lp_conn_unix connect /dev/printer: Connection refused lp_print: lp_conn_unix: Connection refused These lines are printed in lp.c line 473: syslog(LOG_ERR, "lp_conn_unix connect %s: %m", saun.sun_path); What is my problem? Thanks Stephan From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Sep 22 12:26:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA13369; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 12:26:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA13365; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 12:26:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA25436; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 12:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA24535 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 12:24:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.kabel.de (mail.kabel.de [194.121.239.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id MAA24150 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 12:23:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.121.239.249] by mail.kabel.de (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA36758; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 18:25:49 +0200 Message-Id: <34269B4B.BF08B234@kabel.de> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 18:22:35 +0200 From: Achim Gosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02b7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i586) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] AppleTalk is not starting... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello! When I start the atalkd, I get the following error message: "AppleTalk not up! Child exited with 1." Please help! Achim From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Sep 22 12:27:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA13435; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 12:27:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA13428; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 12:27:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA08873; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 12:27:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA08785 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 12:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uustar.starnet.net (uustar.starnet.net [199.217.253.12]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA07726 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 12:25:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from Udatapag@localhost) by uustar.starnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id LAA11764; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 11:13:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [172.16.6.1] by datapage.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA27508; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 10:57:46 -0500 X-Sender: tim@stlouis.datapage.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 10:57:13 -0500 To: Mario Haza From: Tim Rand Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Printing on solaris Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 5:55 PM -0500 9/19/97, Mario Haza wrote: >I have been using netatalk on Linux for a long time but recently i have to >make a UNIX (Sun) / Windows NT servers evaluation. So idecided >to install netatalk on solaris 2.6 on a Ultra 1. > >For the file server it works pretty well but i can't configure the >printing daemon (papd) on lpsched. I am using Solaris 2.5.1 and printing through the "pipe" support in the print queuing. My papd.conf file contains: >QMS 2000 Spool:\ > :pr=|/usr/bin/lp:op=operator:pd=/usr/share/lib/ppd/QMS2000.PPD: This seems to work just fine and should work for you. Try it. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Sep 22 21:17:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA02978; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 21:17:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA02967; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 21:17:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA17007; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 21:17:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA17003 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 21:17:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from eve.telalink.net (eve.telalink.net [207.152.1.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA16995 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 21:17:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [207.234.36.146] ([207.234.36.146]) by eve.telalink.net (MTA-v3.5/6.1n-fbmx-blkspam) with SMTP id UAA12594 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 20:15:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199709230115.UAA12594@eve.telalink.net> Subject: [netatalk-admins] is netatalk compatable with linux 2.30??? Date: Mon, 22 Sep 97 20:17:12 -0500 x-sender: chuck@telalink.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Chuck Pierce To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu has anyone there gotten netatalk to print to a hp localtalk printer (the 660c to be exact)... I have it sitting on a localtalk to ether talk router on my local zone... I have appletalk turned on in the kernal, but don't know really where to go from there... thanks Chuck From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 23 01:36:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id BAA16840; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 01:36:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id BAA16836; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 01:36:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA24152; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 01:36:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA24149 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 01:36:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from goofy.eecs.umich.edu (goofy.eecs.umich.edu [141.213.11.208]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id BAA24136 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 01:36:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (steveh@localhost) by goofy.eecs.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id BAA05896 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 01:36:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: goofy.eecs.umich.edu: steveh owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 01:36:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Hsieh To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] pap and epson stylus color 800 localtalk interface In-Reply-To: <199709230115.UAA12594@eve.telalink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Anyone out there using pap to connect to an epson stylus color 800 inket with the localtalk interface? It would seem that this particular printer doesn't work too well with pap. When you send a job, data flows very slowly, and pap isn't able to disconnect when done (there is no way to get out of a pap -pprinter:EPSONLQ2@ZONE once you start reading from stdin). Even if you use the -E option, it says "Bad response". If you terminate pap with ctrl-c, the epson will remain busy forever until you pull its power plug and plug it back in (the power switch doesn't reset the interface). While the printer may not conform to all the standards, it does seem to work fine with the Macintosh epson appletalk driver, so it seems possible that netatalk could work with it if someone knew what was going on... (We have no problem with regular laser printers or even HP inkjets..) From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 23 04:36:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id EAA22287; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 04:36:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id EAA22107; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 04:36:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA29666; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 04:36:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA29656 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 04:36:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de (dx4.pingnet.de [194.148.12.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA29609 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 04:35:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) id KAA22540; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 10:35:10 +0200 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 10:35:10 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: Achim Gosse cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AppleTalk is not starting... In-Reply-To: <34269B4B.BF08B234@kabel.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, > When I start the atalkd, I get the following error message: > > "AppleTalk not up! Child exited with 1." > > Please help! Help yourself and get us more information: What's printed in the syslog? Reboot your machine and try again. Does the Problem persist? What Kind of OS and Hardware are you using? :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 23 06:34:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA04189; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 06:34:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA04185; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 06:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA22619; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 06:34:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA22612 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 06:34:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from on.on-luebeck.de (on.on-luebeck.de [194.25.93.130]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA22607 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 06:34:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by on.on-luebeck.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id MAA01878 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 12:30:07 +0200 Received: from on-luebeck.de (gal.ton.on-luebeck.de [192.168.42.2]) by hertz.ton.on-luebeck.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21263 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 12:28:30 +0200 Message-ID: <342799D5.31519A61@on-luebeck.de> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 12:28:37 +0200 From: Erik Heim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Appleshare error -23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I have a strange problem : There are two directories in my .AppleVolumes file. Both directories have the same permissions !!!, but in one of them I can't write any File without getting an Appleshare error -23 (Message from a german System 7.6.1. client) This behaviour is the same with netatalk version 1.3.3 (RedHat 4.1 i386) and 1.4b2+asun2.0a15.2 (Redhat 4.2 i386). Where is the problem ? - ApplShare Prep ? - Server (netatalk + RedHat) - Client (german system 7.6.1) - or anything else I can look at? Thanks. --- Erik Heim From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 23 06:53:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA04648; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 06:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA04641; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 06:53:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA12732; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 06:53:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA12729 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 06:53:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [192.147.236.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA12720 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 06:53:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host6.ppp.pa-x.dec.com by mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (5.65/KJV) id AA24729for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Tue, 23 Sep 97 03:53:25 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970923034654.006ea0fc@hyfrydol.reid.org> X-Sender: reid@hyfrydol.reid.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 03:52:29 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Brian Reid Subject: [netatalk-admins] numeric filenames? Cc: reid@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm running netatalk and afpd on 2 computers; one is Ultrix 4.4 and the other is FreeBSD 1.2.1. They both have the same odd problem; I'm wondering if anybody else has seen it. In some applications (but not all), if you go to save a file for the second time, it claims that it can't find the filename, and ends up saving the file under a long numeric name, often a negative numbers. Thus, the first "save" asks you for a filename which you provide and it uses. The second "save" creates a file named 3844433432, and doesn't overwrite the first filename. The third "save" creates a file named 3844433454, and doesn't overwrite either previous file. Any ideas? Brian Reid reid@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 23 08:38:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA06945; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 08:38:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA06941; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 08:37:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA10396; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 08:37:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA10393 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 08:37:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de (dx4.pingnet.de [194.148.12.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA10376 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 08:37:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) id OAA23879; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 14:37:00 +0200 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 14:36:59 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: Brian Reid cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, reid@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] numeric filenames? In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970923034654.006ea0fc@hyfrydol.reid.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > I'm running netatalk and afpd on 2 computers; one is Ultrix 4.4 and the > other is FreeBSD 1.2.1. They both have the same odd problem; I'm wondering > if anybody else has seen it. In some applications (but not all), if you go > to save a file for the second time, it claims that it can't find the > filename, and ends up saving the file under a long numeric name, often a > negative numbers. Thus, the first "save" asks you for a filename which you > provide and it uses. The second "save" creates a file named 3844433432, and > doesn't overwrite the first filename. The third "save" creates a file named > 3844433454, and doesn't overwrite either previous file. I've a similar Problem with MacDraw Pro, which says with every cmd-s "The file on disk has changed, sava anyway?". If I proceed, everything works fine. Unfortunately I don't know a solution to this. :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 23 08:42:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA07123; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 08:42:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA07119; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 08:42:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA20518; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 08:42:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA20454 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 08:42:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de (dx4.pingnet.de [194.148.12.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA19923 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 08:40:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) id OAA23899; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 14:40:11 +0200 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 14:40:10 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: Erik Heim cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Appleshare error -23 In-Reply-To: <342799D5.31519A61@on-luebeck.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > There are two directories in my .AppleVolumes file. Both directories > have the same permissions !!!, but in one of them I can't write any File > without getting an > Appleshare error -23 (Message from a german System 7.6.1. client) > > - ApplShare Prep ? > - Server (netatalk + RedHat) > - Client (german system 7.6.1) > - or anything else I can look at? Triple-check permissions, also those of the parents of the offending dirs and also the .AppleDouble entries. Try deleting the .AppleDesktop and Network Trash Folder (invisible from Mac-Side!). :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 23 10:44:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA10220; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 10:44:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA10216; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 10:44:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA27432; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 10:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA25978 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 10:41:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ivory.lm.com (ivory.lm.com [204.171.44.50]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA25661 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 10:41:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phluffy.lm.com (myke@phluffy.lm.com [204.171.44.47]) by ivory.lm.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA21224; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 10:40:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 10:40:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.lm.com To: Steve Hsieh cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] pap and epson stylus color 800 localtalk interface In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Anyone out there using pap to connect to an epson stylus color 800 inket > with the localtalk interface? It would seem that this particular printer > doesn't work too well with pap. When you send a job, data flows very > slowly, and pap isn't able to disconnect when done (there is no way to get > out of a pap -pprinter:EPSONLQ2@ZONE once you start reading from stdin). > Even if you use the -E option, it says "Bad response". If you terminate > pap with ctrl-c, the epson will remain busy forever until you pull its > power plug and plug it back in (the power switch doesn't reset the > interface). > > While the printer may not conform to all the standards, it does seem to > work fine with the Macintosh epson appletalk driver, so it seems possible > that netatalk could work with it if someone knew what was going on... I've had this printer working fine together with Ghostscript. I can probably dig up the configuration files if you'd like. The supplied Epson drivers still ran faster and produced better output, so the netatalk/ghostscript solution was never put into production. The printer was connected to the parallel port of a 486/66 running FreeBSD and netatalk. - Mike From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 23 23:21:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id XAA11423; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 23:21:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id XAA11410; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 23:21:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA27498; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 23:21:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA27495 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 23:21:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.gmp.usyd.edu.au (envy.gmp.usyd.edu.au [129.78.231.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA27447 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 23:21:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gmp.usyd.edu.au (envy.gmp.usyd.edu.au [129.78.231.1]) by mail.gmp.usyd.edu.au (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with ESMTP id AAA25276; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 13:21:19 +1000 Message-ID: <3428872D.5C89545C@gmp.usyd.edu.au> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 13:21:17 +1000 From: yvain X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Samba $ Netatalk integration Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi All, I've just checked through the netatalk archives on the topic of samba/netatalk integration. From what i could see, the main outcome was a discussion about how to make the .AppleDouble directories be deleted automatically for samba users, and a little bit of a discussion about finder info being automatically generated for non-mac files. I'm interested to know if anyone has integrated netatalk and samba more closely. More specifically, has anyone got patches to samba that make it aware of files in the .AppleDouble directory that are related to any apple based files in the main directory. A second question is what is the relationship between the .AppleDesktop directory and apple files in a netatalk share? What would need to be done to make samba aware of them? I have made modifications to samba to deal with CAP and its .finderinfo and .resource directories - for everything except file copies, but i'd prefer not to have to re-invent the wheel... Chris From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 24 01:54:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id BAA23690; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 01:54:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id BAA23686; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 01:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA23902; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 01:55:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA23894 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 01:55:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dip.eecs.umich.edu (dip.eecs.umich.edu [141.212.99.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id BAA23886 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 01:55:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (steveh@localhost) by dip.eecs.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.8.0) with SMTP id BAA15619; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 01:54:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: dip.eecs.umich.edu: steveh owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 01:54:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Hsieh To: Mike Holling cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] pap and epson stylus color 800 localtalk interface In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Thanks for the reply, Mike. But it sounds as if you are talking about using papd to advertise the epson printer, which you sent data to over the parallel port? (I can send Ps->ghostscript->epson parallel port just fine). I'm trying to go the opposite direction, namely unix/netatalk/pap -> ethertalk -> localtalk bridge -> epson w/localtalk interface If you were able to do the latter, I'd definitely be interested in your setup. For me, 'pap -pEpsonprinter:EPSONLQ2@ZONE datafile' results in really messed up output and a printer which gets stuck in status: busy indefinitely. -- Stephen Hsieh Dept. of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science steveh@eecs.umich.edu Univ. of Michigan at Ann Arbor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 23 Sep 1997, Mike Holling wrote: > > Anyone out there using pap to connect to an epson stylus color 800 inket > > with the localtalk interface? It would seem that this particular printer > > doesn't work too well with pap. When you send a job, data flows very > > slowly, and pap isn't able to disconnect when done (there is no way to get > > out of a pap -pprinter:EPSONLQ2@ZONE once you start reading from stdin). > > Even if you use the -E option, it says "Bad response". If you terminate > > pap with ctrl-c, the epson will remain busy forever until you pull its > > power plug and plug it back in (the power switch doesn't reset the > > interface). > > > > While the printer may not conform to all the standards, it does seem to > > work fine with the Macintosh epson appletalk driver, so it seems possible > > that netatalk could work with it if someone knew what was going on... > > I've had this printer working fine together with Ghostscript. I can > probably dig up the configuration files if you'd like. The supplied Epson > drivers still ran faster and produced better output, so the > netatalk/ghostscript solution was never put into production. The printer > was connected to the parallel port of a 486/66 running FreeBSD and > netatalk. > > - Mike > > From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 24 08:59:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA11547; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 08:59:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA11543; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 08:59:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA08919; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 08:59:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA08831 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 08:59:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA08791 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 08:59:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Wed, 24 Sep 1997 14:58:16 +0200 Received: by lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de (940816.SGI.8.6.9/ZRZ-Gen) id OAA01168; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 14:58:15 +0200 Message-Id: <199709241258.OAA01168@lorenz.physik.tu-berlin.de> Subject: [netatalk-admins] problem importing MPEG movie via Netatalk To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 14:58:14 +0200 (MEST) From: Georg Schwarz Reply-To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm running Netatalk 1.4b2+asun2.0a10 on Linux 2.0.29 on a Pentium. I've created some MPEG movie using ImageMagick's convert. The file is called test.mpeg and is residing on a volume exported by Netatalk. My settings for MPEG are: .mpeg MPEG mMPG now when when I directly open that file via Netatalk from a PowerMac running 7.5.5 using MoviePlayer 2.5.1 I get the message that it cannot be opened because it's no movie file. However, when I first drag it to the Mac's hard disk and open it from there, everything works fine, and I can play the movie. It does not make a difference whether I choose Open or Import in MoviePlayer. Anybody got an idea why I cannot open it directly? The Mac does have rw access to the Netatalk volume. Thanks. --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik Tel. +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ Sekr. PN 7-1, Hardenbergstr. 36, D-10623 Berlin IRC: kuroi From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 24 10:00:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA13949; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 10:00:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA13918; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 09:59:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA03585; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 10:00:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA03523 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 10:00:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fhul02.rz.fh-ulm.de (Fhul02.rz.fh-ulm.de [141.59.42.15]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id JAA03481 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 09:59:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by fhul02.rz.fh-ulm.de (5.57/BelWue-1.1+DEC) id AA15133; Wed, 24 Sep 97 15:59:18 +0200 Received: from HUGO/SpoolDir by hugo.rz.fh-ulm.de (Mercury 1.31); 24 Sep 97 15:59:20 +0100 Received: from SpoolDir by HUGO (Mercury 1.31); 24 Sep 97 15:58:53 +0100 Received: from PENTIUM.sam-net.de by hugo.rz.fh-ulm.de (Mercury 1.31); 24 Sep 97 15:58:43 +0100 Message-Id: <34291973.19D8@tao.de> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 15:45:23 +0200 From: Stephan Bauer X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] character set mapping Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Bon jour, David! I have fiddled a bit with the same thought, and found some good spots in the netatalk code to insert translation code into. My time is limited, however :(. It shouldn't be too hard to do a straight translation, but there might be problems in defining when to translate, i.e. for which documents. All this is available with CAP, but CAP has other drawbacks, which made us move over to netatalk. For now, we live with the problem. Also, is anyone else looking into this? Best regards, Palle Hello, this is just what I am looking for. Stephan From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 24 22:23:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id WAA14799; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 22:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id WAA14794; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 22:23:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA18059; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 22:23:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA18056 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 22:23:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sabella.per.marine.csiro.au (sabella.per.marine.csiro.au [192.245.214.11]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA18030 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 22:23:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from car391@localhost) by sabella.per.marine.csiro.au (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA26769 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 10:23:05 +0800 (WST) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 10:23:05 +0800 (WST) From: Gary Carroll Message-Id: <199709250223.KAA26769@sabella.per.marine.csiro.au> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Translating a CAP to a Netatalk file system X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi. I have netatalk 1.4b2 running on an Sun Ultra Sparc with Solaris 2.5.0. I also have CAP running on a Sun 10/30 with SunOS 4.1.3 which is being phased out. I'd like to know whether there is an elegant way of converting the CAP file system into a netatalk one. I'd heard that this was automatic, but it didn't work for me. Is the only way to do this to mount the CAP and the netatalk file systems and do a copy?? This sounds easy, but at one of our sites there are well over 50 users and it would be preferable to automate the process. I searched the archives, FAQ, and manuals to no avail. I can't be the first to want to do this. What is the story? Excuse me if I have missed something that is painfully obvious. Thanks, Gary ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary Carroll: CSIRO Div. of Marine Research | Gary.Carroll@marine.csiro.au PO Box 20 | North Beach 6020 | Phone: +61 9 422 8214 Western Australia | Fax : +61 9 422 8222 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Sep 24 23:56:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id XAA18028; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 23:56:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id XAA18024; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 23:56:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA25927; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 23:56:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA25911 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 23:56:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from titania.math.ukans.edu (titania.math.ukans.edu [129.237.128.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA25896 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 23:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from buller@localhost) by titania.math.ukans.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA28733; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 22:55:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 22:55:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Buller X-Sender: buller@titania To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] psf on Solaris 2.6 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm trying to replace our ancient CAP on a 4.1.3 box with 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.6, but I've not been able to get the Unix side printer to LocalTalk connected printers. Does anyone have a LP Interface script or something simliar that I can use with the LP Server. The printing experience is much improved under 2.6, with the client and server now being their own entities, but I have not been clever enough to get the server to use psf to talk to LocalTalk connected printers. Any advice / help would be appreciated. Tim ==== Tim Buller buller@math.ukans.edu Systems Specialist Snow Hall 643, (785) 864-7311 Department of Mathematics University of Kansas, Lawrence, KS 66045 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Sep 25 00:23:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id AAA23326; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 00:23:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id AAA23269; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 00:22:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA04573; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 00:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA04565 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 00:22:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from titania.math.ukans.edu (titania.math.ukans.edu [129.237.128.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id AAA04555 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 00:22:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from buller@localhost) by titania.math.ukans.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA28891; Wed, 24 Sep 1997 23:22:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 23:22:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Buller X-Sender: buller@titania To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] A different problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've also been trying to install 1.4b2 on a Solaris 2.5.1 machine with the 4.3 BSD lpr stack compiled from source (put together by Doug Hughes). Everything seems to work fine, until I try to print, and then I get: Sep 24 23:17:53 ftp.math.ukans.edu ofpap[1411]: 1412 died with 2 Sep 24 23:17:53 ftp.math.ukans.edu lpd[1410]: signal 0, error 0, code 0 Sep 24 23:17:54 ftp.math.ukans.edu ofpap[1413]: 1414 died with 2 Sep 24 23:17:54 ftp.math.ukans.edu lpd[1410]: signal 0, error 0, code 0 Sep 24 23:17:55 ftp.math.ukans.edu ofpap[1415]: 1416 died with 2 Sep 24 23:17:55 ftp.math.ukans.edu lpd[1410]: signal 0, error 0, code 0 Sep 24 23:17:56 ftp.math.ukans.edu ofpap[1417]: 1418 died with 2 Sep 24 23:17:56 ftp.math.ukans.edu lpd[1410]: signal 0, error 0, code 0 etc., until I kill the lpd process listed. What's going on? It does this regardless of if there's a .paprc in the spool directory... Is there any time-frame on "real" Solaris (=SysV type LP) support? Tim ==== Tim Buller buller@math.ukans.edu Systems Specialist Snow Hall 643, (785) 864-7311 Department of Mathematics University of Kansas, Lawrence, KS 66045 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Sep 25 10:26:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA22520; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 10:26:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA22516; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 10:26:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA07503; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 10:26:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA07373 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 10:26:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uustar.starnet.net (uustar.starnet.net [199.217.253.12]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA07324 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 10:26:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from Udatapag@localhost) by uustar.starnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id JAA28342; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 09:12:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [172.16.6.1] by datapage.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA12376; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 09:04:14 -0500 X-Sender: tim@stlouis.datapage.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 08:52:09 -0500 To: Tim Buller From: Tim Rand Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] A different problem Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >I've also been trying to install 1.4b2 on a Solaris 2.5.1 machine with the >4.3 BSD lpr stack compiled from source (put together by Doug Hughes). > Tim, I am using Solaris 2.5.1 and printing through the "pipe" support in the print queuing. My papd.conf file contains: >QMS 2000 Spool:\ > :pr=|/usr/bin/lp:op=operator:pd=/usr/share/lib/ppd/QMS2000.PPD: This seems to work just fine and should work for you. Try it. Note the PIPE character "|" is the first character in the pr= string. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Sep 25 19:54:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA13355; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 19:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA13349; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 19:54:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA22507; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 19:54:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA22466 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 19:54:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zarathustra.calstatela.edu (zarathustra.calstatela.edu [130.182.118.126]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id TAA22155 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 1997 19:53:50 -0400 (EDT) From: ramune@zarathustra.calstatela.edu Received: (qmail 684 invoked by uid 100); 25 Sep 1997 23:47:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19970925234732.683.qmail@zarathustra.calstatela.edu> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: [Q] PPD files for Netatalk (fwd) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 16:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Cc: William.P.McGonigle@Hitchcock.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all! I came across Mike Pearson's web page on netatalk, and asked him about the location of the PPD files because the link on his page was broken. He wanted me to let you know his reply, so here it is! Bye! -- DAN Forwarded message: > From mikep@mpea.demon.co.uk Wed Sep 24 19:28:00 1997 > Delivered-To: ramune@zarathustra.calstatela.edu > Message-Id: > X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 > To: ramune@zarathustra.calstatela.edu > Subject: Re: [Q] PPD files for Netatalk > In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Sep 1997 08:45:24 PDT." > <19970924154525.596.qmail@zarathustra.calstatela.edu> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 21:06:48 +0100 > From: Mike Pearson > > Daniel, > > Try ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/printerdrivers/mac/all/ppdlevel1. > They've lengthened the names, but its pretty clear which printers they refer > to. > You might also try the win/all/ppdlevel1 versions. > > Could you do me a favour and post this info to the netatalk mailing > list? I no longer subscribe to it. Also suggest to Bill (McConglie? - I > forget) that he updates my howto. I don't maintain the page myself. > > Mike > > From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Sep 26 05:31:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id FAA15322; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 05:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id FAA15317; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 05:31:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA07989; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 05:31:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA07986 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 05:31:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hauptstadt.snafu.de (hauptstadt.snafu.de [194.121.224.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id FAA07978 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 05:31:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by hauptstadt.snafu.de (Smail3.2.0.96) from jasperI.local (195.21.244.148) with esmtp id ; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 11:30:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (qmail 1685 invoked from network); 26 Sep 1997 09:18:43 -0000 Received: from felix.local (10.0.1.10) by jasperi.local with SMTP; 26 Sep 1997 09:18:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 1419 invoked by uid 100); 26 Sep 1997 09:19:04 -0000 Message-ID: <19970926111904.41397@felix.local> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 11:19:04 +0200 From: Steffen Ullrich To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Linux can see NT (SFM),Mac can see NT, but Mac can't see Linux Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am trying to replace an NT machine running SFM with a Linux Box (which already serves the whole NT network using Samba). If I do an nbplkup I can see the NT machine (called SERVER) and myself (jasperII): > jasperII:AFPServer 65280.181:130 > jasperII:LaserWriter 65280.181:128 > jasperII:netatalk 65280.181:4 > jasperII:Workstation 65280.181:4 > SERVER:AFPServer 65501.40:128 > HP LaserJet 6L:LaserWriter 65501.40:131 > DC21X41@SERVER:Microsoft( Windows NT* Prt 4.00 65466.98:2 The single Mac in the network can see the SERVER, but the Linux Box doesn't show up in AppleShare. I've tried to put sharing on the Mac machine on and expected to see it with nbplkup but I can't too. Any ideas welcome. BTW, Are there any tools shipped with SFM on NT which I could try to figure out if NT can see the Linux box? From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 30 00:28:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id AAA10249; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:28:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id AAA09983; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:27:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA29679; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:27:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA29673 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:27:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from onshore.com (onShore.com [206.69.88.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id AAA29550 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:26:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jaritos ([206.69.90.195]) by onshore.com (/onShore) with SMTP id XAA18273; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 23:25:41 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19970929214338.00f6ee50@onshore.com> X-Sender: stel@onshore.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 21:43:38 -0500 To: yvain , "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" From: Stelios Valavanis Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Samba $ Netatalk integration In-Reply-To: <3428872D.5C89545C@gmp.usyd.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 01:21 PM 9/24/97 +1000, yvain wrote: >Hi All, > > I've just checked through the netatalk archives on the topic of >samba/netatalk integration. From what i could see, the main outcome was >a discussion about how to make the .AppleDouble directories be deleted >automatically for samba users, and a little bit of a discussion about >finder info being automatically generated for non-mac files. > > I'm interested to know if anyone has integrated netatalk and samba >more closely. More specifically, has anyone got patches to samba that >make it aware of files in the .AppleDouble directory that are related to >any apple based files in the main directory. A second question is what >is the relationship between the .AppleDesktop directory and apple files >in a netatalk share? What would need to be done to make samba aware of >them? we've implemented combined netatalk/samba servers at several clients as wellas for internal use. i'm happy to put you in contact with one of my sysadmins to see if we can help you out. i do know that if a pc touches a file, the finder info is lost and the file has to be opened with the open dialog box in an app. we keep a utility called 'filetyper' around for a quick fix when needed. _________________________________________________________ stel valavanis mailto:stel@onShore.com http://www.onShore.com/ From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 30 06:23:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA17908; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 06:23:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA17904; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 06:23:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA27574; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 06:23:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA27572 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 06:23:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gate.illom.se (gate.illom.se [194.18.100.37]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA27560 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 06:23:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from illom.se (mac4.illom.se [194.18.101.245]) by gate.illom.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19570 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 12:23:36 +0200 Message-ID: <3430D338.62B3B2FE@illom.se> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 12:23:52 +0200 From: Magnus Stenman Reply-To: magnus@illom.se Organization: ILLOM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins Subject: [netatalk-admins] .AppleDouble junk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Has anyone made a script or program for weeding out unused .AppleDouble/* files? (you get a lot of those when sharing files with unix and windows clients) It should be easy to make, but, why re-invent the wheel? /magnus From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 30 06:46:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA18523; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 06:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA18517; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 06:46:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA00783; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 06:46:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA00780 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 06:46:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de (dx4.pingnet.de [194.148.12.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA00766 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 06:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) id MAA23885; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 12:46:33 +0200 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 12:46:32 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler cc: netatalk-admins Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] .AppleDouble junk In-Reply-To: <3430D338.62B3B2FE@illom.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, > Has anyone made a script or program for > weeding out unused .AppleDouble/* files? > It should be easy to make, but, why re-invent the wheel? I begun to make such a baby, but I don't got so far with comparing whether the original-file exists or not. And - a great difficulty - working with spaces in directory or filenames is very ugly. But you've got lots of them if you have Mac users on your Unix Box. So I'm interested in a solution, too! :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 30 10:35:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA24239; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:35:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA24232; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:35:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA04188; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:35:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA04153 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:35:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpha.ntp.springer.de (alpha.ntp.springer.de [192.129.24.9]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA04065 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:35:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pc36.ntp.springer.de by ALPHA.NTP.SPRINGER.DE (PMDF V5.1-7 #19300) with SMTP id <01IO9DS6MPKA000054@ALPHA.NTP.SPRINGER.DE> for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 16:34:47 CE Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 16:34:36 +0200 ((MEZ) - Mitteleurop. Sommerzeit) From: Knut Barghorn Subject: [netatalk-admins] looproute panic two routes To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Reply-to: barghorn@springer.de Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1 Build (3) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Authentication: none Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, we installed netatalk under Solaris 2.5.1 on a SUN Ultra Enterprise 3000 system. It worked very well, but sometime the systems panics. It last words: Sep 25 13:50:19 hepa1 Sep 25 13:43:39 Sep 25 13:53:35 hepa1 atalkd[177]: route: 100 -> 1.110: No such file or directory Sep 25 13:53:35 hepa1 atalkd[177]: route: 101 -> 1.110: No such file or directory Sep 25 13:53:39 hepa1 inetd[940]: fs/tcp: bind: Address already in use Sep 25 13:57:57 hepa1 atalkd[177]: rtmp_packet: can't remove loopback: No such file or directory Sep 25 13:57:59 hepa1 atalkd[177]: looproute panic two routes Sep 25 14:04:19 hepa1 unix: SBus0 slot 0x1 offset 0x8c20000 and slot 0x1 offset 0x8c22000 and slot 0x1 offset 0x8c24000 and slot 0x1 offset 0x8c26000 and slot 0 x1 offset 0x8c27000 SBus level 4 sparc9 ipl 7 My dump questions are: What happend? and What can we do to stop that behavior? I just read the messages in the mailing list with the same subject but it seems to discribe an other problem. Thanks for your help. Knut Barghorn ---------------------- Dr. Knut Barghorn barghorn@springer.de Springer-Verlag Phone: ++49 (6221) 487-443 Tiergartenstr. 17 Fax: ++49 (6221) 487-304 D-69121 Heidelberg From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 30 10:54:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA25264; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:54:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA25255; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:54:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA22006; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:54:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA21963 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:54:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.shreve.net ([208.206.76.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA21860 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 10:54:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [208.206.76.20] (casey.shreve.net [208.206.76.20]) by www.shreve.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA13937 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:53:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199709301453.JAA13937@www.shreve.net> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Multiple Log-ins Date: Tue, 30 Sep 97 09:59:24 -0500 x-sender: kheflin@mail.shreve.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: kheflin To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm currently running Netatalk with AppleshareIP support. Right now, if I should try to access a directory from my Mac via appleshareIP, using a particular name and password, this works fine. It mounts the directory that I have permission for. Also what I would like to do, is use Appleshare to mount another directory which requires a different username and password. But if I go to the chooser and try to connect to the same AppleshareIP server, it tells me that I'm already connected, and does not allow me to input a different name and password. So I'm forced to unmount the current directory, then try again. But I would like to have access to more than one directory, which have different permissions. Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Kevin -------------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Heflin | ShreveNet, Inc. | Ph:318.222.2638 x103 VP/Mac Tech | 333 Texas St #619 | FAX:318.221.6612 kheflin@shreve.net | Shreveport, LA 71101 | http://www.shreve.net -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 30 11:07:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA26187; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA26182; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:07:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA29550; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:07:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA29419 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:07:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail2.cyberverse.com (brionne.cyberverse.com [204.140.176.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA29261 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (janus@localhost) by mail2.cyberverse.com (8.8.5/mail2) with SMTP id IAA15886; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 08:06:46 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: brionne.cyberverse.com: janus owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Conner To: kheflin cc: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Multiple Log-ins In-Reply-To: <199709301453.JAA13937@www.shreve.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, kheflin wrote: > I'm currently running Netatalk with AppleshareIP support. Right now, if I > should try to access a directory from my Mac via appleshareIP, using a > particular name and password, this works fine. It mounts the directory > that I have permission for. Also what I would like to do, is use > Appleshare to mount another directory which requires a different username > and password. But if I go to the chooser and try to connect to the same > AppleshareIP server, it tells me that I'm already connected, and does not > allow me to input a different name and password. So I'm forced to unmount > the current directory, then try again. But I would like to have access to > more than one directory, which have different permissions. > > Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. > > Kevin > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Kevin Heflin | ShreveNet, Inc. | Ph:318.222.2638 x103 > VP/Mac Tech | 333 Texas St #619 | FAX:318.221.6612 > kheflin@shreve.net | Shreveport, LA 71101 | http://www.shreve.net > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > I'm afraid that is a Mac thing, not a netatalk thing. Appleshare allows you to be only one person at a time to any given server. As far as I know, there is no way to change this behaviour. The only hack of which I can think would be to set up an aliased IP on the server, also running an instance of netatalk, which would likely convince the Mac that the two different servers justify two different users. This is a rather ugly way to go about it, however. -Conner From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 30 11:35:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA27498; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:35:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA27493; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:35:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA16469; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:35:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA16411 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:35:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sid.trust.ee (sid.trust.ee [194.204.23.180]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA16008 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 11:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from trust.ee (bonk.trust.ee [194.204.23.190]) by sid.trust.ee (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00341; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 18:27:45 +0300 Message-ID: <34311B2F.774579B8@trust.ee> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 18:30:55 +0300 From: Hannu Krosing X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kheflin CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Multiple Log-ins References: <199709301453.JAA13937@www.shreve.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu kheflin wrote: > > I'm currently running Netatalk with AppleshareIP support. Right now, if I > should try to access a directory from my Mac via appleshareIP, using a > particular name and password, this works fine. It mounts the directory > that I have permission for. Also what I would like to do, is use > Appleshare to mount another directory which requires a different username > and password. But if I go to the chooser and try to connect to the same > AppleshareIP server, it tells me that I'm already connected, and does not > allow me to input a different name and password. So I'm forced to unmount > the current directory, then try again. But I would like to have access to > more than one directory, which have different permissions. You should run multiple servers, so check out the afpd.conf file where you can define them. Hannu From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Sep 30 14:52:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA03448; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 14:52:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA03442; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 14:52:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA26820; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 14:52:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA26524 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 14:51:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from grumpy.fortlewis.edu (GRUMPY.FORTLEWIS.EDU [204.132.30.19]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA26442 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 14:51:35 -0400 (EDT) From: INDEPENDENT@GRUMPY.FORTLEWIS.EDU Received: from GRUMPY.FORTLEWIS.EDU by GRUMPY.FORTLEWIS.EDU (PMDF V5.1-7 #7736) id <01IO962AHAKG001YTM@GRUMPY.FORTLEWIS.EDU> for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 12:53:30 MDT Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 12:53:30 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [netatalk-admins] mailing list To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Message-id: <01IO962AIQDE001YTM@GRUMPY.FORTLEWIS.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"netatalk-admins@umich.edu" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu please take me off this mailing list thanks From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 1 00:31:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id AAA26270; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 00:31:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.144.15]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id AAA26193; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 00:31:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id AAA20670; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 00:10:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA27085; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 00:10:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA27070 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 00:10:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nora.hbk-bs.de (ip193-175-242-144.hbk-bs.de [193.175.242.144]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id AAA27042 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 00:10:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by nora.hbk-bs.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA00952 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:10:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from spock.hbk-bs.de(193.175.242.145) by nora.hbk-bs.de via smap (V2.0) id xma000950; Wed, 1 Oct 97 06:10:21 +0200 Received: from marvin.hbk-bs.de by spock.hbk-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA01129; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:10:08 +0200 Received: by marvin.hbk-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA07515; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:10:08 +0200 From: h.foest@hbk-bs.de (Hanno Foest) Message-Id: <199710010410.GAA07515@marvin.hbk-bs.de> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.51 kernel panics To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:10:07 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, using netatalk since the beginning of the year, I've experienced kernel panics from time to time, frequency depending of which SunSolve patches I had installed, varying between several a day and less than one per month. At the moment an user is trying to print a 400 MB postscript file (don't ask, it's a Microsoft thing) from Solaris to an EtherTalk printer, and as a result the frequency of the system crashes went WAY up. My question is now: Since problems with the Solaris kernel module are known, and I don't know of anything else which could cause kernel panics and Solaris crashes, could I/we please have a copy of whatever new version of the kernel module that might exist? I'd rather join the despised "patch a day" club than putting up with the current state of the netatalk distribution for another year. Pretty please? Hanno From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 1 01:36:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id BAA00777; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 01:36:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id BAA00768; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 01:36:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA01953; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 01:36:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA01945 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 01:36:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (colossus.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.202]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id BAA01920 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 01:36:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [146.141.26.200] (macenroe1.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.200]) by colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA07494; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 07:38:29 +0200 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 07:38:29 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Conner From: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (John Ostrowick) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Multiple Log-ins Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >On Tue, 30 Sep 1997, kheflin wrote: > >> I'm currently running Netatalk with AppleshareIP support. Right now, if I >> should try to access a directory from my Mac via appleshareIP, using a >> particular name and password, this works fine. It mounts the directory >> that I have permission for. Also what I would like to do, is use >> Appleshare to mount another directory which requires a different username >> and password. But if I go to the chooser and try to connect to the same >> AppleshareIP server, it tells me that I'm already connected, and does not >> allow me to input a different name and password. So I'm forced to unmount >> the current directory, then try again. But I would like to have access to >> more than one directory, which have different permissions. >> > > >I'm afraid that is a Mac thing, not a netatalk thing. Appleshare allows you >to be only one person at a time to any given server. As far as I know, there >is no way to change this behaviour. not true. the mac can handle up to 18 different servers, and/or up to 100 potential different volumes from the same server. my appleshare login system, http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/labtools.html, may fix this. ________________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick jon@cs.wits.ac.za Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand 1 Jan Smuts Ave, Johannesburg, South Africa. Senate House 1012 Phone: +27 11 716-3783 Fax: +27 11 339-3513 My web page: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/more/jon/aboutme.html My ftp site: ftp://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za My listserv: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/listservs.html From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 1 09:38:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA25408; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 09:38:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA25379; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 09:38:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA19399; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 09:38:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA19384 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 09:38:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from OCHRE.MGH.HARVARD.EDU (frodo.mgh.harvard.edu [132.183.190.25]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id JAA19372 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 09:38:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [132.183.190.212] by 132.183.190.212 with SMTP; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 9:37:59 -0400 X-Sender: kent@genetics.mgh.harvard.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 09:40:03 -0400 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Kent Reuber Subject: [netatalk-admins] NetAppleTalk on net with two zones. How? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm having trouble bringing up Netatalk on my MkLinux box (PowerComputing Power100 with 72MB of RAM, MKLinux DR2.1r3) on the correct zone. The problem is our AppleTalk network--net 9900--has two zones: "Wellman" and "Molecular Biology". Wellman is the default zone, but I want the system to come up under Molecular Biology where the rest of our machines are. If I understand the documentation correctly, I would think that the following line in the atalkd.conf file would work: eth0 -phase 2 -net 9900 -zone "Molecular Biology" However, when the system boots, it still comes up under the "Wellman" zone and the atalkd.conf gets rewritten as follows: eth0 -phase 2 -net 9900 -addr 9900.100 -zone "Wellman" -zone "Molecular Biology" OK. So that isn't the way to go. How about the -seed option? That doesn't seem to work either. Saying: eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 9900 -zone "Molecular Biology" results in the atalk stack never starting. Is there a log file somewhere that says what went wrong? I don't think I want to hardware an address, do I? That sounds like an invitation to address conflicts. Anyone have any insight into what's going on? Thanks in advance. Kent Kent Reuber, LAN Manager Molecular Biology Dept., Wellman 9th Floor Massachusetts General Hospital Boston, MA 02114 kent@molbio.mgh.harvard.edu (617) 726-2359 FAX (617) 726-6893 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 1 10:11:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA28977; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 10:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA28973; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 10:11:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA11686; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 10:11:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA11629 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 10:11:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de (dx4.pingnet.de [194.148.12.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA11540 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 10:11:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) id QAA03147; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:10:23 +0200 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:10:23 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: Kent Reuber cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NetAppleTalk on net with two zones. How? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, > However, when the system boots, it still comes up under the "Wellman" zone > and the atalkd.conf gets rewritten as follows: > > eth0 -phase 2 -net 9900 -addr 9900.100 -zone "Wellman" -zone "Molecular > Biology" that's right, 'cause atalkd does nothing but bare Appletalk protocol. You'll have to fiddle with nbprgstr and afpd in the startup-scrips to change the zone, they appear. :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 1 12:34:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA11140; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 12:34:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA11123; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 12:34:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA08564; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 12:34:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA08522 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 12:34:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.devinci.fr (ns.devinci.fr [193.107.166.15]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA08027 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 12:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from eiffel.devinci.fr (eiffel.devinci.fr [193.107.164.170]) by ns.devinci.fr (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA21778 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:33:20 +0200 Received: from aldebaran.devinci.fr by eiffel.devinci.fr (1.40.112.8/jtpda-5.2) with ESMTP id AA021743599 ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:33:20 +0200 Received: from (bourdon@localhost) by aldebaran.devinci.fr (SMI-8.6/jtpda-5.2) id SAA00952 ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:34:50 +0100 Message-Id: <19971001183450.33936@aldebaran.devinci.fr> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:34:50 +0100 From: bertrand bourdon To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm junior in Solaris and in Netatalk. I'd like to know how to access an AppleTalk printer from netatalk under Solaris 2.5, considering the fact that you have no longer lpd ant its printcap file. Couldn't managed to found how to had it with lpadmin and didn't find any clue in the FAQ. Thanks for your help. Bertrand Bourdon -- ====================================================================== Bertrand Bourdon Ingenieur Systeme DER Genie Informatique E-mail : bertrand.bourdon@devinci.fr Pole Leonard de Vinci Tel (00-33-1)41167465 92916 PARIS LA DEFENSE CEDEX, France. ====================================================================== From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 1 13:09:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA16022; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:09:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA16017; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:09:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA16537; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA16216 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:09:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA16141 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:08:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA28507 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:08:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (bioserver.bio.mtu.edu [141.219.40.72]) by mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA11134 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:08:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (bioserver.bio.mtu.edu [141.219.40.72]) by bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id NAA17296 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:08:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:08:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@bioserver.bio.mtu.edu To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.5 In-Reply-To: <19971001183450.33936@aldebaran.devinci.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I don't want to belong to the "Patch of The Day Club" either, but doesn't it strike ANYONE on the netatalk team that maybe, just maybe, this kind of question could go on a web page somewhere? > I'd like to know how to access an AppleTalk printer from netatalk under > Solaris 2.5, considering the fact that you have no longer lpd ant its printcap > file. Couldn't managed to found how to had it with lpadmin and didn't > find any clue in the FAQ. And it definitely is a FAQ. You can use the undocumented pipe support in papd. For instance, I essentially use: printer:\ :pr=|lpr -Pprinter :ppd=/your/ppd/file.ppd I also use LPRng, but you should be able to get it work with lp. Good luck. - edan From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 1 13:56:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA20435; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:56:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA20408; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:56:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA05284; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA05140 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:55:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nora.hbk-bs.de (ip193-175-242-144.hbk-bs.de [193.175.242.144]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA05007 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:55:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by nora.hbk-bs.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA01223 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 19:55:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from spock.hbk-bs.de(193.175.242.145) by nora.hbk-bs.de via smap (V2.0) id xma001221; Wed, 1 Oct 97 19:55:41 +0200 Received: from marvin.hbk-bs.de by spock.hbk-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA02326; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 19:55:24 +0200 Received: by marvin.hbk-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA00428; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 19:55:23 +0200 From: h.foest@hbk-bs.de (Hanno Foest) Message-Id: <199710011755.TAA00428@marvin.hbk-bs.de> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.5 In-Reply-To: <19971001183450.33936@aldebaran.devinci.fr> from bertrand bourdon at "Oct 1, 97 06:34:50 pm" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 19:55:23 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > I'd like to know how to access an AppleTalk printer from netatalk under > Solaris 2.5, considering the fact that you have no longer lpd ant its printcap > file. http://www.crewes.ucalgary.ca/~henry/doc/sun/atalk_printer_setup.html Hanno From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 1 14:15:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA21993; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:15:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA21989; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:15:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA01672; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:15:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA01587 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:15:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA01363 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:15:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA07341; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:15:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (bioserver.bio.mtu.edu [141.219.40.72]) by mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA29691; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:15:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (bioserver.bio.mtu.edu [141.219.40.72]) by bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id OAA18307; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:15:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:15:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@bioserver.bio.mtu.edu To: Hanno Foest cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.5 In-Reply-To: <199710011755.TAA00428@marvin.hbk-bs.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > I'd like to know how to access an AppleTalk printer from netatalk under > > Solaris 2.5, considering the fact that you have no longer lpd ant its printcap > > file. > > http://www.crewes.ucalgary.ca/~henry/doc/sun/atalk_printer_setup.html This is a nice description of using an Appletalk printer with the lp system in Solaris 2.5. I'm a goon for thinking he wanted to go the other way. I'll ask again, while I'm filling people's mailboxes with crap: Has anyone had any luck printing to papd with anything besides the LaserWriter 8 driver? - edan From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 1 17:15:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA07382; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:15:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA07364; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA25755; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:56:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA25730 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:55:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA24064 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:53:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id MAA26297; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 12:52:37 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 12:52:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: Patrik Schindler cc: Kent Reuber , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NetAppleTalk on net with two zones. How? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Patrik Schindler wrote: > Hi, > > > However, when the system boots, it still comes up under the "Wellman" zone > > and the atalkd.conf gets rewritten as follows: > > > > eth0 -phase 2 -net 9900 -addr 9900.100 -zone "Wellman" -zone "Molecular > > Biology" > > that's right, 'cause atalkd does nothing but bare Appletalk protocol. > You'll have to fiddle with nbprgstr and afpd in the startup-scrips to > change the zone, they appear. In other words, in the nbprgst, and in the afpd start up, you want to add @Mileculat Biology to the name. Note also that you'll need to put the whole thing in quotes to protect the space in the zone name. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 1 20:37:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA20764; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 20:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id UAA20751; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 20:37:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA15423; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 20:37:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA15415 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 20:37:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mariposa.erg.sri.com (mariposa.erg.sri.com [128.18.4.223]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id UAA15401 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 20:37:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by mariposa.erg.sri.com (8.6.12/2.7davy) id RAA14014; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:37:35 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:37:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Arseneault To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.5 In-Reply-To: <19971001183450.33936@aldebaran.devinci.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I also have asked this question but got no good answers. I saw one other person ask this a couple of months ago but did not see an answer. I would ask that the answer be posted to the list and added to the FAQ. This is the reason I am still running CAP on a SUNOS machine, that is currently dying a rather painfull death. I would also like to hear how to print to remote printers (I think it has something to do with pipes but I am also unclear on the syntax of the papd.conf file, the small examples in the documentation were not enuf, I guess I be thick) On a second note, I am mainly a PC and Unix person and have little Mac knowdgle and would appreciate it if some on could point me to a tutorial on all those options in the AppleVolumes system are and how to use them. Thanks in advance. Tom Arseneault arsen@erg.sri.com Sr. System Admin. SRI International On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, bertrand bourdon wrote: > Hi, > I'm junior in Solaris and in Netatalk. > I'd like to know how to access an AppleTalk printer from netatalk under > Solaris 2.5, considering the fact that you have no longer lpd ant its printcap > file. Couldn't managed to found how to had it with lpadmin and didn't > find any clue in the FAQ. > > Thanks for your help. > > Bertrand Bourdon > -- > ====================================================================== > Bertrand Bourdon Ingenieur Systeme > DER Genie Informatique E-mail : bertrand.bourdon@devinci.fr > Pole Leonard de Vinci Tel (00-33-1)41167465 > 92916 PARIS LA DEFENSE CEDEX, France. > ====================================================================== > From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 2 03:20:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id DAA04306; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 03:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id DAA04302; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 03:20:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA14495; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 03:20:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA14493 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 03:20:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ecr.mu.oz.au (gondwana.ecr.mu.OZ.AU [128.250.70.62]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id DAA14463 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 03:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lassie.ecr.mu.oz.au (lassie.ecr.mu.oz.au [128.250.61.9]) by ecr.mu.oz.au (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA20881; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:18:30 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (apcr@localhost) by lassie.ecr.mu.oz.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA13837; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:18:31 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: lassie.ecr.mu.oz.au: apcr owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:18:30 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew Croke To: Edan Idzerda cc: Hanno Foest , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Drivers for papd. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I recently bought an HP 6MP and could not get the HP supplied driver to work. I found that HP are putting their own header in front of the Postscript header and all I got was 0 byte spool files. I got things going with the HP Laserjet 4MP driver and PPD supplied with the printer. Things are working fine. Cheers, -------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Croke P.O. Box 451 University of Melbourne Nth Melbourne 3051 On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Edan Idzerda wrote: > > > > > I'd like to know how to access an AppleTalk printer from netatalk under > > > Solaris 2.5, considering the fact that you have no longer lpd ant its printcap > > > file. > > > > http://www.crewes.ucalgary.ca/~henry/doc/sun/atalk_printer_setup.html > > This is a nice description of using an Appletalk printer with the > lp system in Solaris 2.5. > > I'm a goon for thinking he wanted to go the other way. > > I'll ask again, while I'm filling people's mailboxes with crap: > > Has anyone had any luck printing to papd with anything besides > the LaserWriter 8 driver? > > - edan > From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 2 18:41:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA17656; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:41:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA17652; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:41:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA20345; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:41:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA20330 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:41:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aaka.3skel.com (aaka.3skel.com [207.240.134.73]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA20295 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:41:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fnur.3skel.com (fnur.3skel.com [192.168.0.8]) by aaka.3skel.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id SAA08842 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:41:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 3skel.com (localhost.3skel.com [127.0.0.1]) by fnur.3skel.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id SAA04968 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:41:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <343422FC.9E55D4B8@3skel.com> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 18:41:00 -0400 From: Dan Janowski Organization: Triskelion Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02b7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Unable to copy file because file could not be found...?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, A have configured the latest netatalk on FreeBSD and had it hooked up to a network with a bunch of different macs. I have a problem with many files during a copy operation through the finder from the mac to the netatalk server: on a system running 7.3: no problems. on a systems running 7.6: with many files I get the error "Cannot copy file "because the file could not be found" While the error prompt was up I checked on the netatalk server in a shell and saw that the full file was there, but as soon as I confirmed the error dialog the mac deleted the file. on two system running 7.5: with many files I get an error -23 an a zero size file left on the server. the files don't seem to follow any real pattern, some application files copy ok, others don't. Some image files are ok and others aren't. I seem to be able to save directly out of applications without any incident. Any help? Thanks, Dan -- danj@3skel.com Dan Janowski Triskelion Systems, Inc. Bronx, NY From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 2 20:57:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA21406; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 20:57:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id UAA21395; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 20:57:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA07723; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 20:57:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA07718 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 20:57:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from argonaut.w3-design.com (argonaut.w3-design.com [207.155.61.155]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA07620; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 20:57:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from w3-design.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11968; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:57:21 -0700 Message-ID: <343442F0.E38CFAA6@w3-design.com> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 17:57:20 -0700 From: Jeff Wiegley Organization: W3-design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.31 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk@umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] does netatalk handle filelocking? (and vs. Windows NT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm trying to pitch to my employers that linnux/netatalk is the way to go for solving our windows/mac filesharing problems. I've gotten netatalk up and running without too much trouble and I've got a meeting set to discuss using linux as the server operating system versus using Windows NT. Two questions I have: 1) Does netatalk support any sort of file locking mechanisms? using the mac server that we now use locking seems to happen but under my installation of netatalk on a temporary machine file locking doesn't seem to happen. 2) Can everyone give me some good reasons why we should use linux as the operating system of choice instead of Windows NT? I have one supervisor who is not real keen on using linux because NT is a well-known commercial product. (I say "big deal"...) any how any answer to these questions or any other topics that might be of interest to note about using netatalk/samba and linux together would be greatly appreciated. - Jeff Wiegley -- J E F F W I E G L E Y W 3 - d e s i g n, I n c.

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From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 3 06:58:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA23427; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 06:58:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA23417; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 06:58:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA20021; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 06:57:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA20019 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 06:57:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from slacker.design.mindspring.net (slacker.design.mindspring.net [207.69.192.8]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA20015; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 06:57:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (pspierce@localhost) by slacker.design.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA09850; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 07:02:36 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 07:02:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Patrick Scott Pierce To: Jeff Wiegley cc: netatalk@umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] does netatalk handle filelocking? (and vs. Windows NT) In-Reply-To: <343442F0.E38CFAA6@w3-design.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Money for one. NT with all of its licensing can get super expensive. Flexibility. Generally, you have full access to source code. Remote administration, if my boss calls at 3:00 AM to say something is up I don't have to put on clothes to fix it (though recommended for colder regions). Patrick Scott Pierce pspierce@mindspring.com CGI Programming Mindspring Enterprises On Thu, 2 Oct 1997, Jeff Wiegley wrote: > Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 17:57:20 -0700 > From: Jeff Wiegley > To: netatalk@umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Subject: [netatalk-admins] does netatalk handle filelocking? (and vs. Windows NT) > > I'm trying to pitch to my employers that linnux/netatalk is the > way to go for solving our windows/mac filesharing problems. > > I've gotten netatalk up and running without too much trouble and > I've got a meeting set to discuss using linux as the server > operating system versus using Windows NT. > > Two questions I have: > > 1) Does netatalk support any sort of file locking mechanisms? > using the mac server that we now use locking seems to happen > but under my installation of netatalk on a temporary machine > file locking doesn't seem to happen. > > 2) Can everyone give me some good reasons why we should use > linux as the operating system of choice instead of > Windows NT? I have one supervisor who is not real keen on > using linux because NT is a well-known commercial product. > (I say "big deal"...) > > any how any answer to these questions or any other topics that > might be of interest to note about using netatalk/samba and linux > together would be greatly appreciated. > > - Jeff Wiegley > > -- > > J E F F W I E G L E Y > > W 3 - d e s i g n, I n c. >

phone: (310) 815-1177 x 307 fax:(310) 815-1133

> > From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 3 07:51:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA24617; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 07:51:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA24613; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 07:50:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA12491; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 07:51:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA12489 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 07:51:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id FAA28395 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 05:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA24413; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:30:25 +0100 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:30:24 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Jeff Wiegley cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] does netatalk handle filelocking? (and vs. Windows NT) In-Reply-To: <343442F0.E38CFAA6@w3-design.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Q1: AFAIK file locking has yet to be added to Netatalk. Q2: Linux/Netatalk is free, and is also way faster than NT on the same hardware. Also, I think you would be hard pushed to find an NT box with an uptime of more than a couple of months, let alone the 400 days + that I have heard of with linux... On Thu, 2 Oct 1997, Jeff Wiegley wrote: > I'm trying to pitch to my employers that linnux/netatalk is the > way to go for solving our windows/mac filesharing problems. > > I've gotten netatalk up and running without too much trouble and > I've got a meeting set to discuss using linux as the server > operating system versus using Windows NT. > > Two questions I have: > > 1) Does netatalk support any sort of file locking mechanisms? > using the mac server that we now use locking seems to happen > but under my installation of netatalk on a temporary machine > file locking doesn't seem to happen. > > 2) Can everyone give me some good reasons why we should use > linux as the operating system of choice instead of > Windows NT? I have one supervisor who is not real keen on > using linux because NT is a well-known commercial product. > (I say "big deal"...) > > any how any answer to these questions or any other topics that > might be of interest to note about using netatalk/samba and linux > together would be greatly appreciated. > > - Jeff Wiegley > > -- > > J E F F W I E G L E Y > > W 3 - d e s i g n, I n c. >

phone: (310) 815-1177 x 307 fax:(310) 815-1133

> > -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 3 09:20:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA27706; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 09:20:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA27701; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 09:20:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA00391; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 09:20:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA00388 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 09:20:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kiev.physchem.kth.se (kiev.physchem.kth.se [130.237.52.63]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA00382 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 09:20:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from biochem.kth.se (helge.physchem.kth.se [130.237.74.20]) by kiev.physchem.kth.se (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01060 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 15:16:59 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3434F16F.B07CCDE5@biochem.kth.se> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 15:21:51 +0200 From: Cato Reply-To: cato@biochem.kth.se X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] How to access CAP files from Netatalk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu We recently switched from SunOS 4.1.3 to Solaris 2.5.1 and haven't been able to get CAP to function. As Netatalk runs just fine we want to use it instead but are now stuck with a "small" problem... How to be able to access thoose files put on the server by CAP?. All files containing only a datafork are of course not a big deal but the others... - - - Anders From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 3 10:00:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA29099; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:00:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA29095; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:00:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA11156; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA11139 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from universe.digex.net (universe.digex.net [205.197.245.199]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id KAA11033 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:00:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (murchiso@localhost) by universe.digex.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA04730 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:00:25 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:00:25 -0400 (EDT) From: murchiso To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] mirroring appleshare servers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Does anybody know of a AppleShare client implementation for Solaris 2.5/2.6 that would let me effectively mirror a true AppleShare server? My goal is to be able to pick an AppleShare server on the network, mirror it's contents, then do a mirror update each night. The mirored contents would then be served off the Solaris machine via Netatalk. Thanks for any info! -r From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 3 11:38:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA02248; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:38:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA02241; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:38:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA07440; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA07373 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:38:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from schilling.ucdavis.edu (schilling.ucdavis.edu [128.120.8.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA07140; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:37:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from titanic.ucdavis.edu (root@steve09.ucdavis.edu [128.120.226.163]) by schilling.ucdavis.edu (8.8.7/UCD3.11.18) with ESMTP id IAA07174; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 08:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.120.226.137] (kazak.ucdavis.edu [128.120.226.137]) by titanic.ucdavis.edu (8.8.6/UCD3.10.9) with ESMTP id IAA18243; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 08:37:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: cckweiss@pop1.ucdavis.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <343442F0.E38CFAA6@w3-design.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 08:35:15 -0700 To: Jeff Wiegley , netatalk@umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Ken Weiss Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] does netatalk handle filelocking? (and vs. Windows NT) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 5:57 PM -0700 10/2/97, Jeff Wiegley wrote: > 2) Can everyone give me some good reasons why we should use > linux as the operating system of choice instead of > Windows NT? You can manage a Linux (or other UNIX) server remotely. To do anything to an NT server you need to attach a monitor, keyboard and mouse, and sit down in front of the box. This can be really inconvenient when you get paged at 9:00 at night, when you're at home and the server is locked in a machine room, in a locked building, on a campus that's 18 miles from where you are sitting. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ken Weiss krweiss@ucdavis.edu Distributed Computing Analysis & Support 916/752-5554 (voice) 2323 Academic Surge 916/752-9616 (fax) U.C. Davis Davis, CA 95616 http://dcas.ucdavis.edu/kenhome.html From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 3 11:46:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA02925; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:46:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA02908; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA20131; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA20072 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:45:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aaka.3skel.com (aaka.3skel.com [207.240.134.73]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA20023 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:45:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fnur.3skel.com (fnur.3skel.com [192.168.0.8]) by aaka.3skel.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id LAA10206; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:45:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 3skel.com (localhost.3skel.com [127.0.0.1]) by fnur.3skel.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id LAA14852; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:45:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <34351322.98719EBA@3skel.com> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 11:45:38 -0400 From: Dan Janowski Organization: Triskelion Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02b7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: murchiso CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] mirroring appleshare servers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Xinet 9.0 now runs on Solaris 2.6 (I think that is the release number) and they have K-FS which is an AppleShare client. Dan murchiso wrote: > Does anybody know of a AppleShare client implementation for Solaris > 2.5/2.6 that would let me effectively mirror a true AppleShare server? My > goal is to be able to pick an AppleShare server on the network, mirror > it's contents, then do a mirror update each night. The mirored contents > would then be served off the Solaris machine via Netatalk. > > Thanks for any info! > > -r -- danj@3skel.com Dan Janowski Triskelion Systems, Inc. Bronx, NY From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 3 13:32:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA06803; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:32:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA06799; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:32:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA18260; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:32:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA18066 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:31:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA17899 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA02641; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd002639; Fri Oct 3 17:22:37 1997 Message-ID: <3435299F.794BDF32@whistle.com> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 10:21:35 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alistair Riddell CC: Jeff Wiegley , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] does netatalk handle filelocking? (and vs. Windows NT) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Alistair Riddell wrote: > > Q1: AFAIK file locking has yet to be added to Netatalk. > > Q2: Linux/Netatalk is free, and is also way faster than NT on the > same hardware. > Also, I think you would be hard pushed to find an NT box with an uptime of > more than a couple of months, let alone the 400 days + that I have heard > of with linux... > > On Thu, 2 Oct 1997, Jeff Wiegley wrote: > > > I'm trying to pitch to my employers that linnux/netatalk is the > > way to go for solving our windows/mac filesharing problems. > > > > I've gotten netatalk up and running without too much trouble and > > I've got a meeting set to discuss using linux as the server > > operating system versus using Windows NT. > > > > Two questions I have: > > > > 1) Does netatalk support any sort of file locking mechanisms? > > using the mac server that we now use locking seems to happen > > but under my installation of netatalk on a temporary machine > > file locking doesn't seem to happen. netatalk doesn't yet really support full locking yet.. We use it in our product together with SAMBA, and are adding compatibility code to both for this. Common locking is something we're looking at. The Guy presently in charge of Samba works here, where his job includes working on netatalk, so they do work together well, but locking is a bit harder. > > > > 2) Can everyone give me some good reasons why we should use > > linux as the operating system of choice instead of > > Windows NT? I have one supervisor who is not real keen on > > using linux because NT is a well-known commercial product. > > (I say "big deal"...) We use FreeBSD in our product. The arguments are the same as Linux. 1/ They are stable 2/ they can be fully managed remotely. 3/ They are fast. 4/ the price is right. 5/ The support is better. BTW, see www.whistle.com for the product.. > > > > any how any answer to these questions or any other topics that > > might be of interest to note about using netatalk/samba and linux > > together would be greatly appreciated. > > > > - Jeff Wiegley > > > > -- > > > > J E F F W I E G L E Y > > > > W 3 - d e s i g n, I n c. > >

phone: (310) 815-1177 x 307 fax:(310) 815-1133

> > > > > > -- > Alistair Riddell - BOFH > IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh > Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 3 13:33:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA06889; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:33:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA06883; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:33:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA15182; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:33:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA15064 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:33:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from taos.cs.unm.edu (taos.cs.unm.edu [198.59.151.172]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA14889 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:33:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (colinj@localhost) by taos.cs.unm.edu (8.8.4/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA05330; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:32:32 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: taos.cs.unm.edu: colinj owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 11:32:32 -0600 (MDT) From: Colin Eric Johnson To: Cato cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] How to access CAP files from Netatalk In-Reply-To: <3434F16F.B07CCDE5@biochem.kth.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 3 Oct 1997, Cato wrote: > We recently switched from SunOS 4.1.3 to Solaris 2.5.1 > and haven't been able to get CAP to function. > As Netatalk runs just fine we want to use it instead but > are now stuck with a "small" problem... > How to be able to access thoose files put on the server > by CAP?. All files containing only a datafork are of course > not a big deal but the others... I'm pretty sure that megatron (the evil file transformer, part of netatalk) and its permutations should work for going from things like AppleSingle to AppleDouble. Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ Harming only the humorless since 1967 checking the manpage: MEGATRON(1) USER COMMANDS MEGATRON(1) NAME megatron, unhex, unbin, unsingle, hqx2bin, single2bin, mac- binary - Macintosh file format transformer SYNOPSIS megatron [ sourcefile... ] unbin [ sourcefile... ] unhex [ sourcefile... ] unsingle [ sourcefile... ] hqx2bin [ sourcefile... ] single2bin [ sourcefile... ] macbinary [ sourcefile... ] DESCRIPTION megatron is used to transform files from BinHex, MacBinary, AppleSingle, or netatalk style AppleDouble formats into Mac- Binary or netatalk style AppleDouble formats. The netatalk style AppleDouble format is the file format used by afpd, the netatalk Apple Filing Protocol (AppleShare) server. BinHex, MacBinary, and AppleSingle are commonly used formats for transferring Macintosh files between machines via email or file transfer protocols. megatron uses its name to determine what type of tranformation is being asked of it. If megatron is called as unhex, unbin, or unsingle, it tries to convert file(s) from BinHex, MacBinary, or AppleSingle into AppleDouble format. BinHex is the format most often used to send Macintosh files by e-mail. Usually these files have an extension of ".hqx". MacBinary is the format most often used by terminal emulators "on the fly" when transfer- ring Macintosh files in binary mode. MacBinary files often have an extension of ".bin". Some Macintosh LAN-based email packages use uuencoded AppleSingle format to "attach" or "enclose" files in email. AppleSingle files don't have a standard filename extension. If megatron is called as hqx2bin, single2bin, or macbinary, it will try to convert the file(s) from BinHex, AppleSingle, or AppleDouble into MacBinary. This last translation may be useful in moving Macintosh files from your afpd server to some other machine when you can't copy them from the server using a Macintosh for some reason. If megatron is called with any other name, it uses the default translation, namely unhex. netatalk 1.2 Last change: 8 Jan 1992 1 MEGATRON(1) USER COMMANDS MEGATRON(1) If no source file is given, or if sourcefile is `-', and if the conversion is from a BinHex or MacBinary file, megatron will read from standard input. The filename used to store any output file is the filename that is encoded in the source file. MacBinary files are created with a ".bin" extension. In the case of conflicts, the old file is overwritten! SEE ALSO afpd(8) netatalk 1.2 Last change: 8 Jan 1992 2 From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Oct 4 06:17:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA27019; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 06:17:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA27014; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 06:17:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA16629; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 06:17:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA16627 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 06:17:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sparta.scl.co.uk (sparta.scl.co.uk [163.164.160.4]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA16623 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 06:17:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from janus.scl.co.uk (janus.scl.co.uk [163.164.164.50]) by sparta.scl.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA05961 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 11:16:57 +0100 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19971004091940.2d57d816@mail.scl.co.uk> X-Sender: john@mail.scl.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 10:19:40 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: John Sutton Subject: [netatalk-admins] papstatus problem Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Dear Friends nbplkup shows me: janus:AFPServer 65280.251:128 janus:netatalk 65280.251:4 janus:Workstation 65280.251:4 printer:StyleWriterII 65493.22:252 lydia: Macintosh 65493.22:253 lydia:Workstation 65493.22:4 but when I do papstatus -p printer:StyleWriterII I get: atp_rresp: Connection timed out Also getzones gives exactly the same: atp_rresp: Connection timed out I'm running Netatalk 1.4b2 on Linux 2.0.27 and have no problem seeing Linux (janus) volumes mounted under afpd on the Mac (lydia). Any ideas gratefully received! Thanks in advance John Sutton *************************************************** John Sutton SCL Computer Services URL http://www.scl.co.uk/ Tel. +44 (0) 1239 621021 *************************************************** *************************************************** John Sutton SCL Computer Services URL http://www.scl.co.uk/ Tel. +44 (0) 1239 621021 *************************************************** From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Oct 5 11:10:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA29425; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 11:10:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA29421; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 11:10:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA13124; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 11:10:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA13122 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 11:10:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tajin.cice.mx (tajin.cice.mx [148.230.37.100]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA13102 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 11:10:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mhaza@localhost) by tajin.cice.mx (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA13494; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 09:58:05 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 09:58:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Mario Haza To: Cato cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] How to access CAP files from Netatalk In-Reply-To: <3434F16F.B07CCDE5@biochem.kth.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have CAP running on Solaris 2.5.1, the previous technical support manager compiled it and i make some few changes. Maybe it hasn't all the functionallity of CAP but it let mi share Mac applications. I can share the binaries. On Fri, 3 Oct 1997, Cato wrote: > We recently switched from SunOS 4.1.3 to Solaris 2.5.1 > and haven't been able to get CAP to function. > As Netatalk runs just fine we want to use it instead but > are now stuck with a "small" problem... > How to be able to access thoose files put on the server > by CAP?. All files containing only a datafork are of course > not a big deal but the others... > > - - - Anders > ************************************************************************* * _ * * Mario "Mago" Haza. / \ ___ * * Centro de Investigacion en Computacion Educativa \ \ /\_/ * * Coordinacion de Soporte Tecnico \ \ / / * * Research Center for Computing & Education \ \ / / * * Technical Support / O O \ * * | >o< | * * e-mail: mhaza@ua9000.dcc.anahuac.mx \ _[|]_ / * * mhaza@www.dcc.anahuac.mx ____{||}___{||}____ * * mhaza@tajin.cice.mx |_________________| * * | | * * Tel. (5) 627-0210 Ext. 8530 u 8527 | | * * Ciudad de Mexico (Mexico City) | | * * |___________| * * * ************************************************************************* From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Oct 6 05:07:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id FAA18513; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 05:07:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id FAA18508; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 05:07:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA08229; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 05:07:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA08227 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 05:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gate.illom.se (gate.illom.se [194.18.100.37]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id FAA08212 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 05:07:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from illom.se (mac4.illom.se [194.18.101.245]) by gate.illom.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07997 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 11:07:24 +0200 Message-ID: <3438AA5F.8EE286B@illom.se> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 11:07:50 +0200 From: Magnus Stenman Reply-To: magnus@illom.se Organization: ILLOM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins Subject: [netatalk-admins] Files w/o data fork file Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is there any other file except the '.Parent' that is supposed to exist *only* in the .AppleDouble/ directories? (I´m writing an "orphaned .AppleDouble/ file weeder") /magnus From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Oct 6 12:23:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA28655; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:23:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA28646; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:23:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA22924; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:23:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA22828 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:23:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mojo.calyx.net (mojo.calyx.net [208.132.136.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id MAA22702 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:22:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19462 invoked from network); 6 Oct 1997 16:22:44 -0000 Received: from kwesi.calyx.net (208.132.136.100) by mojo.calyx.net with SMTP; 6 Oct 1997 16:22:44 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971006121239.009c4930@calyx.net> X-Sender: nick@calyx.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 12:12:39 -0400 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Nicholas Merrill Subject: [netatalk-admins] how does everyone back up macs? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm looking for a software solution to back up several client macintoshes connected to my Linux-based NetAtFrom owner-netatalk-admins Mon Oct 6 21:05:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA27542; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 21:05:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA27538; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 21:05:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA13412; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 21:05:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA13405 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 21:05:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA13381 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 21:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA16460 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 02:05:13 +0100 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 02:05:12 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems using CD's through netatalk.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu What mount options are you using for the afpd fs module? IIRR the wrong options can cause behaviour like this. On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Marc Heckmann wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm running a cdrom-tower on a RedHat Linux system. Mac clients > can access it via netatalk (combined with the hfs kernel module for hfs > CD's). The Mac's can read the CD's fine, but when I try to run an > application off the CD such as an install script, the Mac client return's > an error which state's that there is not enough memory to run the > application, when this is completly false and the application runs fine > when the CD is in the local CDrom drive. The problem is on all the Mac's > in my environment (system 7.5.3 - 8.0). Because of this, netatalk is > useless to me right now. Does anyone have any ideas? > Thanks in advance. > > Marc > > > > -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Oct 6 21:34:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA28526; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 21:34:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA28522; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 21:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA23673; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 21:34:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA23658 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 21:34:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA23636 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 21:34:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA09992 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:34:15 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA03469; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710070134.SAA03469@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] erk and pre-a17-7 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu well, pre-a17 actually does use randnum by default. the "real" a17 won't. if you were testing it and had DESDIR uncommented, sorry for any inconvenience. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Oct 6 23:51:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id XAA02451; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 23:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id XAA02447; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 23:51:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA01004; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 23:51:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA00994 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 23:51:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from step.polymtl.ca (step.polymtl.ca [132.207.4.32]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA00945 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 23:51:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (pfeif@localhost) by step.polymtl.ca (8.8.6/8.6.10) with SMTP id XAA08235; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 23:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 23:46:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Marc Heckmann To: Alistair Riddell cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems using CD's through netatalk.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Alistair Riddell wrote: > What mount options are you using for the afpd fs module? IIRR the wrong > options can cause behaviour like this. I'm simply using ro, afpd and user (in the /etc/fstab) as mount options... Do you think that this may be causing the behaviour? BTW, the problem is the same with 1.3.3 and 1.4.2 ... Marc > > On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Marc Heckmann wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm running a cdrom-tower on a RedHat Linux system. Mac clients > > can access it via netatalk (combined with the hfs kernel module for hfs > > CD's). The Mac's can read the CD's fine, but when I try to run an > > application off the CD such as an install script, the Mac client return's > > an error which state's that there is not enough memory to run the > > application, when this is completly false and the application runs fine > > when the CD is in the local CDrom drive. The problem is on all the Mac's > > in my environment (system 7.5.3 - 8.0). Because of this, netatalk is > > useless to me right now. Does anyone have any ideas? > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > -- > Alistair Riddell - BOFH > IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh > Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 7 01:38:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id BAA13789; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 01:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id BAA13785; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 01:38:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA13235; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 01:39:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA13231 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 01:39:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mei9.advantest.co.jp (gws1.advantest.co.jp [202.248.209.132]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id BAA13220 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 01:39:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from arcadia.atesoft.advantest.co.jp (arcadia [10.59.10.33]) by mei9.advantest.co.jp (8.8.5+2.7Wbeta5/3.5Wpl507/08/97) with SMTP id OAA14166; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:40:59 +0900 (JST) Received: from [10.59.30.7] by arcadia.atesoft.advantest.co.jp (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA09320; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:37:55 +0900 Message-Id: <199710070537.OAA09320@arcadia.atesoft.advantest.co.jp> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:44:05 +0900 To: a sun From: bando@atesoft.advantest.co.jp (Tatsuya Bando) X-Sender: bando@arcadia.mei9.advantest.co.jp Subject: [netatalk-admins] afpd probrem Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp X-Mailer: Eudora-J(1.3.8.5-J13) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm running netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0 and afpd on Solaris 2.5.1. The afpd have a probrem that some dust(excess invalid data) stick at the end of file. I have encountered this probrem all previous versions(of cource current a17). This probrem dose not happen with copying file via Finder. I think that the afpd fails to lseek() or ftruncate() system call. Please fix this probrem. ----- Tatsuya Bando ADVANTEST / ATE Software From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 7 02:14:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id CAA14795; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 02:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id CAA14790; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 02:14:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA09989; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 02:14:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA09983 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 02:14:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de [134.169.36.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id CAA09977 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 02:14:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from buster.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (buster.rob.cs.tu-bs.de [134.169.36.44]) by dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA03810; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:14:38 +0200 Received: by buster.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA21726; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:16:31 +0200 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:16:31 +0200 Message-Id: <199710070616.IAA21726@buster.rob.cs.tu-bs.de> From: Mario Klebsch DG1AM To: alistair@watsons.edin.sch.uk CC: cbeaudry@usra.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from Alistair Riddell on Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:22:48 +0100 (BST)) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Changing passwords? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >I think part of the problem with implementing password changing with >netatalk is that root permissions are needed to modify /etc/passwd. I >think the easiest way around this would be for the user's afpd process to >make a call to rpc.yppasswdd. What about executing passwd with expect? Expect does execute a command (like popen), but uses a pseudo tty, so passwd does find its /dev/tty for reading the password. 73, Mario -- Mario Klebsch, DG1AM, M.Klebsch@tu-bs.de +49 531 / 391 - 7457 Institut fuer Robotik und Prozessinformatik der TU Braunschweig Hamburger Strasse 267, 38114 Braunschweig, Germany From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 7 10:35:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA07802; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:35:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA07793; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:35:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA15379; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:35:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA15304 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:35:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id KAA15219 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:35:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17523; Tue, 7 Oct 97 15:34:47 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:34:43 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from hector (hector.tees) by scorch; Tue, 7 Oct 97 15:37:06 BST Date: Tue, 7 Oct 97 15:36:48 BST Message-Id: <25668.9710071436@hector> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Print ID Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm running 1.4b2 with Adrians mods (a15) on a SunOS box, it's serving a lab of 20 macs. The only problem I have with it is the lack of an individual print ID. Currently all printing comes from "mac-lab" the name in the papd file, is there any way to change this so that pages come out with the appropriate user ID? It's the only thing missing in an otherwise ideal solutiuon. later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 7 11:52:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA11953; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:52:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA11949; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:51:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA02917; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:51:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA02832 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:51:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk (lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.120.6]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA02626 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dis.strath.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/2.0A) with ESMTP id QAA14112; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:51:12 +0100 (BST) To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Print ID In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Oct 1997 15:36:48 -0000." Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 16:51:11 +0100 Message-ID: <14110.876239471@dis.strath.ac.uk> From: Duncan Sinclair Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >I'm running 1.4b2 with Adrians mods (a15) on a SunOS box, it's serving a lab >of 20 macs. The only problem I have with it is the lack of an individual print >ID. Currently all printing comes from "mac-lab" the name in the papd file, is >there any way to change this so that pages come out with the appropriate user >ID? It's the only thing missing in an otherwise ideal solutiuon. I've got a small hack which tries to turn the user's name (as set in the "Sharing Setup" control panel) into the name used for the print job. No attempt is made to authenticate the name, and so it's not recommended for a quota environment. It does make a "lpq" look nicer, and if your user name is setup correctly then even "lprm" works. I think I wrote this hack myself, but then forgot I had done so. I have been both surprised by the function in my setup, and the lack of it in others. For some reason the hack removes the ability of papd to determine the "Title" of the print job. I don't know why it does so. It's part of my patches to netatalk-1.4b2, which also provide a measure of LPRng compatibility. Find it at: http://www.dis.strath.ac.uk/ftp/sinclair/my-netatalk.diff - or - ftp://ftp.dis.strath.ac.uk/pub/sinclair/my-netatalk.diff Cheers, Duncan. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 7 11:56:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA12220; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:56:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA12215; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:56:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA18648; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:57:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA18644 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:57:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA18614 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:57:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA13199; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:56:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (bioserver.bio.mtu.edu [141.219.40.72]) by mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA23972; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:56:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (bioserver.bio.mtu.edu [141.219.40.72]) by bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id LAA06341; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:56:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:56:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@bioserver.bio.mtu.edu Reply-To: Edan Idzerda To: Carl Beaudry cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Changing passwords? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Or, failing that, of any way to change passwords that doesn't require a > telnet login? > > I know about popassd but haven't found a current version since it no longer > seems to be on the Qualcomm website where it used to be and the version at > Northwestern (circa 1993) won't compile on SPARC Linux, though I confess > that I haven't played around with it that much. Is there a newer one? I got a version of poppassd off the Qualcomm FTP site. The Eudora README had the location wrong. ftp.qualcomm.com/eudora/servers/unix/password I'm currently testing/using the poppasswd that was in the solaris-2.tar file. There are a number of other files in there that all seem to do approximately the same thing... your mileage may vary. Sure, there are security concerns, like, "Now someone can just snoop that port and grab new passwords!" But, *sigh*, someone can just snoop the POP3 port and grab passwords, so... *sigh* The above program from solaris-2.tar works pretty well for me, compiled on a SPARC 4 running Solaris 2.5. - edan -- Edan Idzerda System Administrator -- Michigan Technological University, Houghton MI USA From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 7 17:31:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA29056; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:31:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA29052; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:31:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA20951; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:31:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA20941 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:31:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from titania.math.ukans.edu (titania.math.ukans.edu [129.237.128.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA20866 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:31:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from buller@localhost) by titania.math.ukans.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA12815; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:30:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:30:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Buller X-Sender: buller@titania To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] MAE & netatalk In-Reply-To: <14110.876239471@dis.strath.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Does anyone have both the MAE 3.0 AppleTalk components and netatalk running under Solaris? The MAE manual cautions against installing the AppleTalk components (kernel-level driver, etc.) if another AppleTalk-ing package is already installed. I was just curious if this is actually a problem; I haven't tried to install the MAE network components yet... Tim ==== Tim Buller buller@math.ukans.edu Systems Specialist Snow Hall 643, (785) 864-7311 Department of Mathematics University of Kansas, Lawrence, KS 66045 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 7 22:17:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id WAA09915; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:17:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id WAA09908; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:17:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA10996; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:17:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA10985 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:17:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foobar.morphtech.com (foobar.morphtech.com [206.239.78.9]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id WAA10962 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:17:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from habanero (unverified [206.239.78.200]) by morph.morphtech.com (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Tue, 07 Oct 1997 22:15:43 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971007221432.009433c0@mail.morphtech.com> X-Sender: mpav@mail.morphtech.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 22:14:32 -0400 To: a sun , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Mike Pav Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] pre-a17 available (my patches to netatalk) In-Reply-To: <199710061801.LAA01015@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 11:01 AM 10/6/97 -0700, you wrote: > >well, here's more from the patch-a-week club. i just want to make sure >this patchset works before turning it into a "real" a17 with the >appropriate diffs. the interested can get pre-a17-7.tar.gz from >ftp.u.washington.edu:/public/asun. it should fix the multicast problem >under solaris. I'm testing this under Solaris 2.5.1 using gcc. Found that in the file "multicast.c" I needed to add an "#include " to get some of the definitions. Also, I still can not use CodeWarrior on a Mac to open projects from netatalk on Solaris. I always get the dreaded "-42 too many files open" dialog on the Mac. I have experimented with setting fd_max and fd_current in /etc/system, but no luck. Funny thing is that if I run netatalk on a Linux machine, and have it serve a file system that is NFS mounted from Solaris, all is well. Seems to me that CodeWarrior can not be opening more than 256 file simultaneously. This error occurs in less than 2 seconds. This "-42" error occurs if I use AppleTalk or TCP as the transport protocol. I'd be glad to do some debugging if anyone can give me some pointers as to where I should start looking. Mike Pav mpav@morphtech.com http://www.morphtech.com Developers of Cross Platform Server Side Scripting Engines From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 8 02:21:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id CAA25697; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 02:21:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id CAA25693; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 02:21:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA08686; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 02:21:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA08679 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 02:21:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de [134.169.36.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id CAA08675 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 02:21:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from buster.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (buster.rob.cs.tu-bs.de [134.169.36.44]) by dagobert.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA12099; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:21:06 +0200 Received: by buster.rob.cs.tu-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA25909; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:23:00 +0200 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:23:00 +0200 Message-Id: <199710080623.IAA25909@buster.rob.cs.tu-bs.de> From: Mario Klebsch DG1AM To: mpav@morphtech.com CC: asun@zoology.washington.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <3.0.1.32.19971007221432.009433c0@mail.morphtech.com> (message from Mike Pav on Tue, 07 Oct 1997 22:14:32 -0400) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] pre-a17 available (my patches to netatalk) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! >Seems to me that CodeWarrior can not be opening more than 256 file >simultaneously. This error occurs in less than 2 seconds. This "-42" error >occurs if I use AppleTalk or TCP as the transport protocol. Does this mean, you have 256 open files on the solaris server, when this error occurs? Did you try to increase the number of descriptors per process on the solaris system? This is one of the topycs on the squid web cache related mailing lists, that you have to increase the number of descriptors up to several tousands to let the cache run in a heavily loaded environment. So, there is a limit of file descriptors per process in solaris, and it can be changed. perhaps you are hitting this limit. >I have experimented with setting fd_max and fd_current ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ >in /etc/system, but no luck. >From the Solaris FAQ: 3.43) How can I increase the number of file descriptors per process? In 2.3 in earlier this requires poking the kernel. In Solaris 2.4+, this can be accomplished by adding the following lines to /etc/system: * set hard limit on file descriptors set rlim_fd_max = 4096 ^^^^^^^^^^^ * set soft limit on file descriptors set rlim_fd_cur = 1024 ^^^^^^^^^^^ Raising the soft limit past 256 may confuse certain applications, especially BCP applications. Raising the limit past 1024 may confuse applications that use select(). Programs using stdio or even library calls that use stdio may break when they have more than 256 files open as that is the stdio limit. Programs using many filedescriptors should try and reserve a number of low numbered file descriptors for use by stdio. Have yoy tried lsof -p when you are hitting the limit? This way you can find out, how many open descriptors the afpserver really does have. 73, Mario -- Mario Klebsch, DG1AM, M.Klebsch@tu-bs.de +49 531 / 391 - 7457 Institut fuer Robotik und Prozessinformatik der TU Braunschweig Hamburger Strasse 267, 38114 Braunschweig, Germany From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 8 05:27:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id FAA13390; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 05:27:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id FAA13386; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 05:27:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA27580; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 05:27:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA27578 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 05:27:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.solid-state-logic.com (mail.solid-state-logic.com [193.117.244.250]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id FAA27570 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 05:27:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sweeper.solid-state-logic.com ([193.114.196.149]) by mail.solid-state-logic.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA07352 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:27:52 +0200 Received: from solid-state-logic.com (193.114.196.68) by sweeper.solid-state-logic.com (Integralis SMTPRS 1.51) with SMTP id ; Wed, 08 Oct 1997 10:29:28 +0100 Received: from sol. by solid-state-logic.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05036; Wed, 8 Oct 97 10:28:21 BST Received: from [193.114.196.173] by sol. (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05263; Wed, 8 Oct 97 10:30:16 BST X-Sender: grahamm@sol.solid-state-logic.com Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:27:32 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Graham Moore Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: How does everyone backup Macs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, You may want to grab a copy of this weeks Network Week Mag, it has a complete article on Retrospect as a backup system for the Mac. I use it to backup about 30 powerbooks each lunchtime and an incremental backup of every desktop every night. Works fine for me. Cheers Graham >I'm looking for a software solution to back up >several client macintoshes connected to my Linux-based >NetAtalk server. > >I have a DLT drive attached to the NetAtalk box, and >was thinking there are two, possibly three possibilities: > >1) one could turn on file sharing on the macs and mount >their drives onto the unix box and just use BRU or tar to >back up the data. This is cheap, but relatively insecure. > >2) (I don't think this is possible but) one could somehow >share the scsi tape device through NetAtalk, and have each >mac write an archive to it. > >3) we could buy disk storage which amounts to the number of >gigabytes on all of the macintosh clients, and put it on the >server. each night, the macs would copy all of their important >files (via applescript) to the server volume, and at a pre- >determined time, BRU or tar would write all that data to tape. > > >How is everyone else handling such a scenario? > >Regards, > >Nick > >~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ >Nicholas Merrill 24 Hour pager: 917-381-0500 Voice: 212-292-7325 >President / CEO http://www.calyx.net Fax : 212-292-7313 >Calyx Internet Access 271 E. 10th St.#100 NYC 10009 Email: nick@calyx.net >~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ ,,, (o o) +-------------------------------oO-(_)-Oo-------------------------------------+ Graham Moore Solid State Logic Computer Systems Administrator From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 8 06:00:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA14107; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA14103; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:00:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA05081; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:01:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA05079 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:01:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id GAA05070 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:01:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21542; Wed, 8 Oct 97 11:00:43 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:00:08 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from hector (hector.tees) by scorch; Wed, 8 Oct 97 11:02:32 BST Date: Wed, 8 Oct 97 11:02:14 BST Message-Id: <29210.9710081002@hector> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] config problems Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm having problems getting netatalk to offer me the correct volumes on login I'm running 1.4b2+asun2.0a15 on SunOS 4.1.3_U1 my .AppleVolumes files looks like this: # # This file is the users AppleVolume file. It specifies which icons will # be shown in file folders and which volumes are available. ~ is the users # home account. # ~ /apps/bin.SunOS "applications" /iws/ "Intranet Area" # default translation -- note that CR <-> LF translation is done on all # files of type TEXT. The first line turns off translation for files of # unknown type, the second turns this translation on. . BINA UNIX # . TEXT UNIX # sounds .8med STrk SCPL [snip] It used to work, I used to see all three volumes, now all I see is my home account. I've even copied .AppleVolumes to .AppleVolume, but with no results. I figure I must be missing something, but I can't think what? I get the same behaviour regardless of whether the unix box is on the same subnet, or I use an IP address to access the development machine on a totally different subnet. (and I think that one's at (a13)) anybody? later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 8 06:31:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA14684; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:31:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA14680; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:31:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA08311; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:31:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA08304 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:31:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id GAA08300 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:31:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21864; Wed, 8 Oct 97 11:30:59 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:30:56 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from hector (hector.tees) by scorch; Wed, 8 Oct 97 11:33:21 BST Date: Wed, 8 Oct 97 11:33:02 BST Message-Id: <29431.9710081033@hector> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] config problems Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > >Hi, > >I'm having problems getting netatalk to offer me the correct volumes on login > >I'm running 1.4b2+asun2.0a15 on SunOS 4.1.3_U1 my .AppleVolumes files looks > >like this: > > i find that this means youve installed a new version which is looking at > the wrong file. > > eg., my files were originally in /etc > > but are now in /usr/local/atalk/etc/ > > and if i modify the original ones in /etc, it has no effect. > > also, you can safely use the default files provided, and link > .Apple*.system to .Apple*.default - the two files are effectively the same. Erm, yes and no... While I agree with the general sentiment, shouldn't netatalk look in you home account and use that file first? If not what's the use of having a personal .AppleVolumes file? On the same note, I'm using Netatalk to serve a lab of 20 macs. Any of which might be used by one of 2,600 users. I've written a perl program which creates a few symbolic links within a given account (or a list thereof) and also creates the specific .AppleVolume account for each user, since each has to mount at least one automounted user specific directory: # ~ /apps/bin.SunOS "applications" /iws/ "Intranet Area" I *can't* use a generic .AppleVolumes file, it simply *won't* work they have to be user specific. That's the part I can't get to work. I have had it working, it just won't work now. later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 8 06:38:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA15012; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:38:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA15006; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:38:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA06306; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:38:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA06291 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:38:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from idnet-local.fr (cyber78.paris.imaginet.fr [194.51.82.93]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA06216 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:38:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from idnet-local.fr (idnet-local.fr [192.168.1.1]) by idnet-local.fr (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA21621; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:41:52 +0200 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:41:51 +0200 (MET DST) From: Nicolas MONNET X-Sender: nico@idnet-local.fr To: Graham Moore cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: How does everyone backup Macs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, Graham Moore wrote: > Hi, > > You may want to grab a copy of this weeks Network Week Mag, it has a > complete article on Retrospect as a backup system for the Mac. I use it to > backup about 30 powerbooks each lunchtime and an incremental backup of > every desktop every night. Works fine for me. I understand that, this person using netatalks, he wants to have a Unix based, preferably free, backup solution. I don't think Retrospect is so, is it? One popular unix backup solution is ArcServe, there must be a mac client, it runs on most unix platform, excluding Unix, but then, there is an SCO version that can be run through iBCS, for what it's worth. I did not manage to install SCO yet -- ArcServe comes bundled with it -- hence I don't know much more about it. > Cheers > > Graham > > >I'm looking for a software solution to back up > >several client macintoshes connected to my Linux-based > >NetAtalk server. -- Nicolas MONNET - Developper, IdeaNet, Paris Tel: +33 1 49 26 98 11 - Fax: +33 1 49 26 09 80 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 8 08:52:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA17607; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:52:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA17602; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:52:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA12741; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:52:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA12728 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id IAA12703 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:52:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23102; Wed, 8 Oct 97 13:51:59 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 13:51:56 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from hector (hector.tees) by scorch; Wed, 8 Oct 97 13:54:20 BST Date: Wed, 8 Oct 97 13:54:02 BST Message-Id: <659.9710081254@hector> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] config problems... Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Doh! I found the reason why my other directories weren't appearing... As well as having a .AppleVolumes file in my account, at some point I'd made a backup and called it (you guessed it, "AppleVolumes") This file was also in my root dir, and was being picked up first... "lousy, stinking, mumble, mumble, mutter" One down, two to go. later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 8 09:23:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA19355; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:23:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA19351; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:23:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA29617; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:23:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA29594 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id JAA29523 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:22:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23263; Wed, 8 Oct 97 14:21:37 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 14:21:34 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from hector (hector.tees) by scorch; Wed, 8 Oct 97 14:23:59 BST Date: Wed, 8 Oct 97 14:23:41 BST Message-Id: <894.9710081323@hector> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] afp_alarm ? Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I've seen this one out here before, but I didn't think to save it... For the past couple of days I've been getting these occasionally: >afpd[739]: afp_alarm: child timed out At which point all my connections die. Do I have to recompile, or is there a quick fix? later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 8 11:08:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA23158; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:08:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id LAA23154; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:07:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id LAA23150; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:07:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA23101; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:07:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199710081507.LAA23101@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: mpav@morphtech.com cc: Mario Klebsch DG1AM , asun@zoology.washington.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] pre-a17 available (my patches to netatalk) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 08 Oct 1997 08:23:00 +0200." <199710080623.IAA25909@buster.rob.cs.tu-bs.de> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 11:07:18 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: mpav@morphtech.com >I have experimented with setting fd_max and fd_current >in /etc/system, but no luck. The problem is that afpd uses the #define NOFILE to statically allocate an array for open file forks. This number is equal to 20 on Solaris, and we allocate ( NOFILE - 10 ) / 2 = 5 open forks. The fix is to dynamically allocate the table at startup. The latest snap-shot contains this code. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 8 11:28:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA24208; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:28:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from meserv.me.umn.edu (meserv.me.umn.edu [134.84.196.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA24202; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:27:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bofh.me.umn.edu (kaszeta@bofh.me.umn.edu [134.84.18.23]) by meserv.me.umn.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA09116 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:27:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from kaszeta@localhost) by bofh.me.umn.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA14703; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:27:53 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:27:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199710081527.KAA14703@bofh.me.umn.edu> From: Richard Kaszeta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Multiple Print Jobs? X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (I'm using 1.4b2 on Linux) Most of my attempts to print to a printer using psf as a lpd filter result in the printing printing out multiple copies of the same job until the printer is stopped. Looking over the mailling list archives, I see a number of people recommending removing the output filter of= line. However, none of my entries have an output filter specified and I still see the multiple copies. Here is the relevant printcap entry: ptltek:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/ptltek:\ :if=/usr/lib/atalk/filters/ifpap:\ :tf=/usr/lib/atalk/filters/tfpap:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/ptltek/acct:\ :du=1:\ :mx#0:\ :pw#80:\ :lp=/dev/ptltek:\ :sh: Any suggestions? -- Richard W Kaszeta Graduate Student/Sysadmin bofh@me.umn.edu University of MN, ME Dept http://www.menet.umn.edu/~kaszeta From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 8 11:39:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA24865; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:39:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id LAA24845; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:38:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id LAA24834; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:38:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA24820; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199710081538.LAA24820@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Richard Kaszeta cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Multiple Print Jobs? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 08 Oct 1997 10:27:53 CDT." <199710081527.KAA14703@bofh.me.umn.edu> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 11:38:50 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Richard Kaszeta > To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Most of my attempts to print to a printer using psf as a lpd filter > result in the printing printing out multiple copies of the same job > until the printer is stopped. > ptltek:\ > :sd=/var/spool/lpd/ptltek:\ > :if=/usr/lib/atalk/filters/ifpap:\ > :tf=/usr/lib/atalk/filters/tfpap:\ > :af=/var/spool/lpd/ptltek/acct:\ > :du=1:\ > :mx#0:\ > :pw#80:\ > :lp=/dev/ptltek:\ > :sh: First, remove the "af" entry. If the problem goes away, it's related to the printer not properly closing the connection. Check out /usr/lib/atalk/filters/if*pap. You'll find filters called ifmpap, ifwpap, ifwmpap. The 'm' means use multiple connections to retrieve the pagecount. This will probably fix your multiple copies problem. The 'w' means wait until the printer is idle before asking about pagecounts. This defeats on-printer spooling that some printers implement, notably HP Laserjet 4s and 5s. If you don't enable this option, you'll often mis-charge pages to subsequent users. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 8 11:46:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA25476; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:46:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA25472; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:46:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA22410; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:46:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA22338 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:46:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id LAA22116 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:46:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24589; Wed, 8 Oct 97 16:45:49 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 16:45:46 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from hector (hector.tees) by scorch; Wed, 8 Oct 97 16:48:10 BST Date: Wed, 8 Oct 97 16:47:53 BST Message-Id: <1395.9710081547@hector> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] afp_alarm ? Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > For the past couple of days I've been getting these occasionally: > >afpd[739]: afp_alarm: child timed out > > At which point all my connections die. > > This wouldn't be related to people entering in the wrong password, > would it? Well, it might be. But at the moment there's only me using the system, it's supposed to go live next week... It doesn't complain about wrong passwords when I log in and the filesystems mount properly, etc. While I'm here I've found something else out, I can't seem to launch movie (.mov) files from my unix account, I get the following error: >Couldn't open the file "filename.mov" >because the file is not a movie file. Yet if I copy the same file to a local disk, and double click it, it works first time. Movies loaded from the mac server have no such problems. later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 8 12:56:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA27544; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:56:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA27540; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA08444; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:56:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA08398 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:56:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id MAA08365 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:56:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25274; Wed, 8 Oct 97 17:56:10 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 17:56:08 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from hector (hector.tees) by scorch; Wed, 8 Oct 97 17:58:32 BST Date: Wed, 8 Oct 97 17:58:14 BST Message-Id: <1464.9710081658@hector> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] afp_alarm ? Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > > For the past couple of days I've been getting these occasionally: > > > >afpd[739]: afp_alarm: child timed out > > > > > > At which point all my connections die. > > > > > > This wouldn't be related to people entering in the wrong password, > > > would it? > > > > Well, it might be. But at the moment there's only me using the system, it's > > supposed to go live next week... It doesn't complain about wrong passwords > > when I log in and the filesystems mount properly, etc. > > What distribution are you using? 1.4b2+asun2.0a15 > > I've had some trouble with the netatalk that I'm running, with asp_alarms. > Too many times with the wrong password and afpd hangs and > refuses all future connections. atalkd, afpd, and the appletalk.o module > all have to be shutdown and then restarted. Nope, mine doesn't do that, even when all my connections die I can simply reconnect via the chooser, it's never locked up on me, just every once in a while, I get an afp_alarm and I lose my connection to the server. It's happened once today so far, otherwise it's been as solid as a rock. later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 8 13:43:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA29806; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 13:43:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA29802; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 13:43:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA08840; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 13:43:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA08368 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 13:42:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gate.illom.se (gate.illom.se [194.18.100.37]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA07522 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 13:41:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from illom.se (mac4.illom.se [194.18.101.245]) by gate.illom.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA28672 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 19:41:30 +0200 Message-ID: <343BC5DB.CC5C5DF6@illom.se> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 19:41:54 +0200 From: Magnus Stenman Reply-To: magnus@illom.se Organization: ILLOM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins Subject: [netatalk-admins] .AppleDouble Weeder Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------EEE4C976839DD9949992CE13" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EEE4C976839DD9949992CE13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To those of you interested in a .AppleDouble/ stray file "weeder": Could you please take a look at this code.... And see if it tries to do something bad. The actual deletion is omitted, I wanted some people to check out the code first... It´s very alpha and ugly. purge is a script that drives purge_adouble, the main perl script argument to purge is where it should start to descend directories if you choose to use purge_adouble alone it takes one or more directories to purge /magnus included: 678 byte .tar.gz file (MIME encoded) --------------EEE4C976839DD9949992CE13 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="554E4958"; name="weeder.tgz" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="weeder.tgz" H4sIALLDOzQAA+2U207bQBCGc4ufYjCWkqAcbDBEahQJ2kQI9YSCqHphFYw9Say4Xnd3XUAk 797xIS6o6uEGqlbzSYm9Mzv/zu56Js3kHBtPi2PbA9uGBuSUT8d1qzFxsL8PcOg6hwPXcQcH 5LXdPacB9hPnVZAp7UuAhhRC/3oeSvUcCT0vO9v96yjpq4Vh7MDNAiWCFjCLkhDS/NO49EOR XcdonF1MTyaXx+P3Fy/fTEbmI6eZB4eRxEALGaGCROhcJlhgsDTOX5+ejU+n5yOzd5ymMY6L GKgGqJZapPBWhUKRTjF7OjmZfBxdYbAQYG3CVwpD6CI0VedTx/O8Vm+306wM0LHI0qbfqvLM Ny6rdHWaV4ZRbMtyoDsTcSxuwGtBV9+lCCQscY63YFr1+iZ0U5klCF4buqKYm29rE1Bau3iL AViPDgfu1+ANDeNvX+0f8egen2iN39S/4zhuXf8HezZZ9hxnwPX/HFD9Z0oWPSBFGVONCIl+ sACL6hlaR8fTkw9tuDfyi4pmQEUQFq7ctpXKKNFgvsrLPErmL8ogc2hs5VNFigmNW1S8HSos eu0/bABmu9DIhY9mUUxdYwS0dFiFtIelL4gFFT7Jkq0y1SnmYZRjEV2IbWUJvSpolS78AmbP hNUKHox/MJz5EhNtlgKbfW7n7aNMuphauTdb9hKoOdfSv6PUlchkgHl2y/IkqkhqBRS4A2MB fqAzP4YQY9SRSCDvtz04bcYxaFTUMxeRgl1/plHukvkrwmc/RPDh2g+WWdrr9YwqxzVJ0uu6 PBF6rAFjhXAPpaXK852Ahz03SmaC/upefVcmag5JodD5LlILaFr+Z/Pr06BNrv+NhscwDMMw DMMwDMMwDMMwDMMwDMMwDMMw/yHfALRFuTsAKAAA --------------EEE4C976839DD9949992CE13-- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 8 15:22:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA04592; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:22:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA04588; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:22:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA12985; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA12936 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:22:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pop01.netaddress.usa.net ([204.68.24.132]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id PAA12922 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:22:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26406 invoked by uid 0); 8 Oct 1997 19:23:04 -0000 Received: from 208.140.4.205 by db01-fast via web-mailer (2.1) on Wed, 08 Oct 1997 13:22:02 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 13:22:02 From: "Byers" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Too many routes/iface? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am running LINUX 2.0.30 and netatalk 1.3.3 When netatalk starts, I get the following error message: Too many routes/iface Appletalk not up! Child exited with 1. Does anybody know what the heck this means and how I can fix it? Jesse Byers ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 8 15:28:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA04914; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA04906; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:28:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA16809; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:28:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA16715 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:28:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA16685 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:28:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22266; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:27:14 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA08916; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710081927.MAA08916@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <1464.9710081658@hector> (message from John Barry -Technician on Wed, 8 Oct 97 17:58:14 BST) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] afp_alarm ? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > I've had some trouble with the netatalk that I'm running, with asp_alarms. > Too many times with the wrong password and afpd hangs and > refuses all future connections. atalkd, afpd, and the appletalk.o module > all have to be shutdown and then restarted. this is fixed in my pre-a17 snapshot. Nope, mine doesn't do that, even when all my connections die I can simply reconnect via the chooser, it's never locked up on me, just every once in a while, I get an afp_alarm and I lose my connection to the server. It's happened once today so far, otherwise it's been as solid as a rock. this should have been fixed in a16. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 8 15:40:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA05774; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:40:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA05767; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:40:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA27703; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:40:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA27558 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:40:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA27523; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22405; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:39:16 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA08978; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710081939.MAA08978@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: wesley.craig@umich.edu CC: mpav@morphtech.com, mkl@buster.rob.cs.tu-bs.de, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199710081507.LAA23101@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> (wesley.craig@umich.edu) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] pre-a17 available (my patches to netatalk) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The problem is that afpd uses the #define NOFILE to statically allocate an array for open file forks. This number is equal to 20 on Solaris, and we allocate ( NOFILE - 10 ) / 2 = 5 open forks. The fix is to dynamically allocate the table at startup. The latest snap-shot contains this code. i suspected something like that. i'll have a fix in my patches as well. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 8 16:11:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA07385; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 16:11:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA07377; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 16:11:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA18524; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 16:11:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA17550 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 16:09:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from servo.na3.seac.pf (wired.seac.pf [208.139.164.100]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA16269 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 16:08:12 -0400 (EDT) From: paquet@seac.pf Received: from gibson.adm.seac.pf (gibson.adm.seac.pf [192.168.4.1]) by servo.na3.seac.pf (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA10190 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 17:07:06 -1000 Received: (from paquet@localhost) by gibson.adm.seac.pf (8.7.6/8.7.3) id RAA24448; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 17:07:05 -1000 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 17:07:05 -1000 Message-Id: <199710070307.RAA24448@gibson.adm.seac.pf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] AppleVolumes.default customization X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi friends, I've set up a Linux box with netatalk (1.4b2+asun2.0a15.2) and samba cooperating. I have Mac users, Win95 users as well as Unix users. This is why have chosen to put Win and Mac files into ~user/DOS+MAC. The [homes] section in the samba config points onto %H/DOS+MAC and appears as \\server\username. I'd like to have the same behaviour on Macs. Currently, since the entry in AppleVolumes.default is ~/DOS+MAC, I can no more benefit of the username substitution that occurs when using ~. It would be nice if this config file could handle 'magic tokens' like the one in samba. Has anyone ever thought of this or is this irrelevant ? Thanks a lot, have a nice day. BTW, Does someone know how to cure my netatalk ? He sometimes insults me via syslog : Sep 30 09:53:23 lyloo afpd[2921]: bad function BF Oct 6 11:41:30 lyloo afpd[8201]: dsi_cmdreply: Bad file number Oct 6 11:35:57 lyloo afpd[315]: asp_alrm: 7984 timed out Oct 6 11:36:07 lyloo afpd[7984]: atp_rresp: Connection timed out Oct 6 11:36:17 lyloo afpd[7984]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Connection timed out Any hint ? -- _ David PAQUET email : paquet@seac.pf __\ /\ System Coconut phone : +689 861214 / _\|__ fax : +689 861019 //o\\ \ | \\ Civil Aviation || TAHITI - French Polynesia ________________________________/ \ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 8 16:41:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA09528; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 16:41:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA09479; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 16:41:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA08503; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 16:41:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA08453 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 16:41:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from grumpy.fortlewis.edu (GRUMPY.FORTLEWIS.EDU [204.132.30.19]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA07769 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 16:39:55 -0400 (EDT) From: INDEPENDENT@GRUMPY.FORTLEWIS.EDU Received: from GRUMPY.FORTLEWIS.EDU by GRUMPY.FORTLEWIS.EDU (PMDF V5.1-7 #7736) id <01IOKG2ZJA1C000ZHM@GRUMPY.FORTLEWIS.EDU> for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 14:40:37 MDT Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 14:40:37 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [netatalk-admins] mailing list To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Message-id: <01IOKG2ZKDLE000ZHM@GRUMPY.FORTLEWIS.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"netatalk-admins@umich.edu" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu For some reason I'm still receiving tons of messages every day from this mailing list. The address may be under the name "charlie watts" could you please try and remove this address from the list? Thanks From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 9 08:44:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA05196; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:44:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA05184; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:43:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA14128; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:44:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA14121 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:44:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po10.andrew.cmu.edu (PO10.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.110]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA14117 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:44:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from postman@localhost) by po10.andrew.cmu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.2) id IAA00638 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: via switchmail; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:43:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from yendi.cc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from yendi.cc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:42:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BatMail.robin.v2.14.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.yendi.cc.cmu.edu.HP9000.715 via MS.5.6.yendi.cc.cmu.edu.hp700; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:42:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0oDB5=200UgJ0xvhs0@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:42:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Walter Wong To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] pre-a17 available (my patches to netatalk) In-Reply-To: <199710061801.LAA01015@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> References: <199710061801.LAA01015@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu pre-a17 compiled under Solaris 2.5.1 by adding #ifdef __svr4__ #include #endif /* __svr4__ */ to etc/atalkd/multicast.c. The good news is that atalkd, papd, and afpd all start up and are visible from the chooser. However, it looks like the Kerberos stuff isn't working right. When I click on the server, I get the UAM choices but when I chose Kerberos, the dialog goes away but nothing happens -- Authman doesn't even fire up if my tickets are expired. I'll go digging around later and post what I discover. Walter From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 9 11:54:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA14871; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:54:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu id LAA14844; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:54:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA27520; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:56:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA29091; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:56:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA29026 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:56:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hermes.bcm.tmc.edu (HERMES.BCM.TMC.EDU [128.249.2.129]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA28543 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:55:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ligand.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (LIGAND.NEUSC.BCM.TMC.EDU [128.249.25.26]) by hermes.bcm.tmc.edu (8.7.6/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA25819 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:55:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [128.249.25.169] by ligand.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (AA08081); Tue, 7 Oct 97 16:18:32 CDT Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:55:18 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Geoff Ghose Subject: [netatalk-admins] HELP: nbprgstr problems with Linux Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have a rather strange situation. For almost a year I've been running netatalk on a Linux box, and it works pretty much flawlessly. To protect the innocent, let's call it machine A. We recently purchased another machine running Linux (machine B). I basically just copied over all of the already working stuff to machine B. Now the symptoms: 1) machine B doesn't appear in the chooser, nor if you use AppleTalk polling programs such Trawl and LanSatellite 2) machine A appears fine in all of the above 3) AFP over TCP/IP works fine over both machines A and B. 4) nbplkup returns nothing when run on machine B 5) nbplkup on machine A doesn't report itself (feature/bug?) but does report machine B! 6) when nbprgstr is run on machine B, it responds with a connection timed out message I tried -seed in atalkd.conf to no avail. Machine B has different Ethernet hardware than machine A. Machine B kernel is 2.0.30; machine A is 2.0.27 The netatalk version is netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a14 Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. ************************************************************************* Geoff Ghose Div. of Neuroscience One Baylor Plaza S603 Baylor College of Medicine Houston, TX 77030 (713) 798-3277 Fax:(713) 798-3282 Internet: gghose@ligand.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu gghose@bcm.tmc.edu http://dna.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu/~geoff PGP key: http://dna.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu/~geoff/pub-pgp-key And what is more, I agree with everything I have just said. - Piet Koornhoff From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 9 13:52:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA21667; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 13:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA21656; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 13:52:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA02201; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 13:52:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA02090 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 13:52:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id NAA01149 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 13:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03175; Thu, 9 Oct 97 18:50:53 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:50:50 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from sue (sue.tees) by scorch; Thu, 9 Oct 97 18:53:15 BST Date: Thu, 9 Oct 97 18:52:36 BST Message-Id: <23905.9710091752@sue> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] purging .AppleDouble directories Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I've just cleaned out my .AppleDouble directories and it occured to me that others might like to do the same. So here's how I did it: %cd %find . -name .AppleDouble -print >purge-list %purge_appledouble.pl purge-list The purge_appledouble.pl script looks like this: #!/apps/perl5/bin/perl open FILE, $ARGV[0]; while ($line = ) { chomp $line; print "$line\n"; system < Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA22302; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:02:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA22291; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:02:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA13689; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA13535 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:02:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wired.com (get.wired.com [204.62.131.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA13429 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:02:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (aarong@localhost) by wired.com (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA16676; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:01:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "Aaron M. Gowatch " To: John Barry -Technician cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] purging .AppleDouble directories In-Reply-To: <23905.9710091752@sue> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 9 Oct 1997, John Barry -Technician wrote: > %cd > Hi, > I've just cleaned out my .AppleDouble directories and it occured to me that > others might like to do the same. So here's how I did it: > > %find . -name .AppleDouble -print >purge-list > %purge_appledouble.pl purge-list > > The purge_appledouble.pl script looks like this: > > #!/apps/perl5/bin/perl > > open FILE, $ARGV[0]; > while ($line = ) { > chomp $line; > print "$line\n"; > system < rm -rf $line > END > } I wouldnt delete my .AppleDouble directories because our users like the types and creators of the files they create preserved. :) But if you really want to, theres an easier way: % find . \( -type d -name .AppleDouble \) -print -exec rm -rf {} \; Aa. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 9 14:26:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA23978; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:26:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA23972; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:26:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA21680; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:26:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA21615 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:26:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coe.missouri.edu (tiger.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA20355 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:24:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.206.158.52] (baroque.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.52]) by coe.missouri.edu (8.8.7/8.8.3) with SMTP id NAA26175; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 13:24:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 13:24:57 +0000 From: Mark Donnelly Reply-To: mark@coe.missouri.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] purging .AppleDouble directories To: "Aaron M. Gowatch" , John Barry -Technician cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >I wouldnt delete my .AppleDouble directories because our users like the >types and creators of the files they create preserved. :) But if you >really want to, theres an easier way: > >% find . \( -type d -name .AppleDouble \) -print -exec rm -rf {} \; > >Aa. Here's another good reason not to delete your .AppleDouble directories: If you want to store anything with resources (PICTs, programs, etc.), then killing the .AppleDouble will more or less erase the file... --Mark "I think so Brain, but if they called them sad meals, then no one would buy them." From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 9 14:39:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA25003; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:39:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA24998; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:39:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA29199; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:39:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA29066 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:39:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id OAA28987 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:39:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03324; Thu, 9 Oct 97 19:39:06 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 19:39:03 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from sue (sue.tees) by scorch; Thu, 9 Oct 97 19:41:28 BST Date: Thu, 9 Oct 97 19:40:49 BST Message-Id: <24335.9710091840@sue> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: purging .AppleDouble files Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, Perhaps my system is strange, but the resouce fork on my unix box are in the .AppleDesktop directory.... Odd. later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 9 18:53:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA01128; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:53:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu id SAA01118; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:53:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA29739; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA14516; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:21:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA14428 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:21:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sparta.scl.co.uk (sparta.scl.co.uk [163.164.160.4]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA14337 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:20:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [163.164.164.52] (lydia.scl.co.uk [163.164.164.52]) by sparta.scl.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA10406; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 23:20:28 +0100 X-Sender: john@mail.scl.co.uk (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 23:19:37 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: john@scl.co.uk (John Sutton) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] HELP: nbprgstr problems with Linux Cc: Geoff Ghose Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sounds like the same problem I had earlier today! I copied over a netatalk config from one box to a second, _including_ the /etc/atalk.conf file. Consequently both machines try to grab the same numeric id (that's probably the wrong term - I mean the second of the two numbers in the output of nbplkup). Fix is simple - delete the line from the conf file of one machine and then start up netatalk. It will poll the network and allocate itself a new unique id and then write that to the conf file for future use. If this is the explanation, the corollary is that you must ensure that all existing appletalk machines are active (in a given zone?) when you first start up a new one. Otherwise there can be no guarantee than it won't allocate itself an id which is the same as that of a machine which doesn't happen to be switched on. Huh? Sounds pretty messy if the zone gets big enough... >I have a rather strange situation. For almost a year I've been running >netatalk on a Linux box, >and it works pretty much flawlessly. To protect the innocent, let's call >it machine A. > >We recently purchased another machine running Linux (machine B). I >basically just copied >over all of the already working stuff to machine B. > >Now the symptoms: > > 1) machine B doesn't appear in the chooser, nor if you use >AppleTalk polling >programs such Trawl and LanSatellite > > 2) machine A appears fine in all of the above > > 3) AFP over TCP/IP works fine over both machines A and B. > > 4) nbplkup returns nothing when run on machine B > > 5) nbplkup on machine A doesn't report itself (feature/bug?) but >does report machine B! > > 6) when nbprgstr is run on machine B, it responds with a connection >timed out message > > >I tried -seed in atalkd.conf to no avail. > >Machine B has different Ethernet hardware than machine A. >Machine B kernel is 2.0.30; machine A is 2.0.27 > >The netatalk version is netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a14 > >Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. > >************************************************************************* > Geoff Ghose > Div. of Neuroscience One Baylor Plaza S603 > Baylor College of Medicine Houston, TX 77030 > (713) 798-3277 Fax:(713) 798-3282 > > Internet: gghose@ligand.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu > gghose@bcm.tmc.edu > http://dna.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu/~geoff > > PGP key: http://dna.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu/~geoff/pub-pgp-key > > And what is more, I agree with everything I have just said. > - Piet Koornhoff *********************** John Sutton SCL Computer Services http://www.scl.co.uk Tel +44 (0) 1239 621021 *********************** From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 10 06:51:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA11244; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 06:51:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA11240; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 06:51:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA29755; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 06:51:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA29753 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 06:51:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA29743 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 06:51:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA12278 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:51:25 +0100 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:51:25 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] HELP: nbprgstr problems with Linux In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 9 Oct 1997, John Sutton wrote: > If this is the explanation, the corollary is that you must ensure that all > existing appletalk machines are active (in a given zone?) when you first > start up a new one. Otherwise there can be no guarantee than it won't > allocate itself an id which is the same as that of a machine which doesn't > happen to be switched on. Huh? Sounds pretty messy if the zone gets big > enough... This is not quite right - a mac will by defualt check its address when first switched on to make sure it doesn't conflict with a device already on the network. If it does then it chooses another address. Problems can aries when the netatalk box is switched off. Another machine can take its address, and when the netatalk machine is switched back on, it does not check AFAIK to see if the address is already in use. -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 10 07:38:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA12840; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 07:38:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA12834; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 07:38:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA06833; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 07:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA06827 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 07:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kiste.pingnet.de (router.pingnet.de [194.148.12.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA06794 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 07:38:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kiste.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id NAA17757 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 13:38:16 +0200 Received: from [192.168.59.2] (powermac.poc.pingnet.de [192.168.59.2]) by leela.poc.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA03982 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:52:46 +0200 X-Sender: poc@leela.poc.pingnet.de Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:52:41 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: [netatalk-admins] Routing Problems between LocalTalk and EtherTalk Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, out there! Bradford W. Johnson, the holy keeper of the one and only driver for a LocalTalk ISA Card couldn't fix this Problem, I now have. Will this Problem be fixed in 2.0.31? I'm now running 2.0.29 and won't move to 30 because of some ISDN difficulties. leela:/root # cat /usr/local/etc/atalkd.conf eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 13-20 -addr 19.1 -zone "Ether" ltalk0 -seed -phase 1 -net 21 -addr 21.1 -zone "Local" leela:/root # nbplkup leela:AFPServer 21.1:130 Nullprinter:LaserWriter 21.1:128 leela:netatalk 21.1:4 leela:Workstation 21.1:4 Powermac:Power Macintosh 7100/66 15.224:253 Powermac:Arbeitsplatz 15.224:4 Performa 630: Macintosh 19.22:253 Performa 630:Arbeitsplatz 19.22:4 leela:/root # cat /proc/net/atalk_iface Interface Address Networks Status ltalk0 0015:01 0015-0015 0 eth0 0013:01 000D-0014 0 lo 0000:00 0000-0000 0 leela:/root # cat /proc/net/atalk_route Target Router Flags Dev 0015:01 0000:00 5 lo 0015:00 0015:01 1 ltalk0 0013:01 0000:00 5 lo 0014:00 0013:01 1 eth0 0013:00 0013:01 1 eth0 0012:00 0013:01 1 eth0 0011:00 0013:01 1 eth0 0010:00 0013:01 1 eth0 000F:00 0013:01 1 eth0 000E:00 0013:01 1 eth0 000D:00 0013:01 1 eth0 0000:00 0000:00 5 lo I can see all devices from the view of leela. Nullprinter is -as you can see by the address- a printqueue on leela. I've tested to connect to the SE/30 with FileSharing, but my Powermac says "no answer from the fileserver". I tried to print from Powermac, but I get errors "the printer could not be found" or similar. Connecting to leela from SE/30 works *very* fine and without any errors! On the other hand, I cannot see Powermac or any other devices on Ethernet from LocalTalk. It seems as if there's a "backward route" missing. I hope, I haven't forgot any detail you may need. Can anyone help? :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 10 10:55:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA27491; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA27479; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:55:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA14283; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:55:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA14255 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:55:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (FOCUS.NEUSC.BCM.TMC.EDU [128.249.25.177]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA14194 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:55:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 128.249.25.169 ([128.249.25.169]) by focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18195 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:54:40 -0500 Message-ID: <343E41C7.3558E8CD@focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:55:05 -0500 From: Geoff Ghose Reply-To: geoff@focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu Organization: Baylor College of Medicine/HHMI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01a (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] HELP: nbprgstr problems with Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu John Sutton wrote: > Sounds like the same problem I had earlier today! I copied over a > netatalk > config from one box to a second, _including_ the /etc/atalk.conf file. > > Consequently both machines try to grab the same numeric id (that's > probably > the wrong term - I mean the second of the two numbers in the output > of > nbplkup). Fix is simple - delete the line from the conf file of one > machine and then start up netatalk. It will poll the network and > allocate > itself a new unique id and then write that to the conf file for future > use. > > > > > 1) machine B doesn't appear in the chooser, nor if you use > >AppleTalk polling > >programs such Trawl and LanSatellite > > > > 2) machine A appears fine in all of the above > > > > 3) AFP over TCP/IP works fine over both machines A and B. > > > > 4) nbplkup returns nothing when run on machine B > > > > 5) nbplkup on machine A doesn't report itself (feature/bug?) > but > >does report machine B! > > > > 6) when nbprgstr is run on machine B, it responds with a > connection > >timed out message > > > > > >I tried -seed in atalkd.conf to no avail. > > I should have made this clearer. Yes, I explicitly wiped out atalkd.conf so that it would get info from the router. And, I edited atalkd.conf so that it had a unassigned number (and forced that number with seed). And neither way worked! What I really don't understand is how the working netatalk setup is able to see the non-working setup with nbplkup, but none of the Macs can. -- ************************************************************************* Geoff Ghose Div. of Neuroscience One Baylor Plaza S603 Baylor College of Medicine Houston, TX 77030 (713) 798-3277 Fax:(713) 798-3282 Internet: geoff@focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu gghose@bcm.tmc.edu http://focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu/~geoff PGP key: http://focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu/~geoff/pub-pgp-key And what is more, I agree with everything I have just said. - Piet Koornhoff From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 10 11:06:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA29783; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:06:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id LAA29764; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:06:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id LAA29620; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:05:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA29601; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:04:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199710101504.LAA29601@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Alistair Riddell cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] HELP: nbprgstr problems with Linux In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:51:25 BST." Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:04:57 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Alistair Riddell > Problems can aries when the netatalk box is switched off. Another machine > can take its address, and when the netatalk machine is switched back on, > it does not check AFAIK to see if the address is already in use. There's code there to do it. I don't know the current state, but it worked the last time I checked. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 10 14:47:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA05836; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 14:47:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA05709; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 14:47:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA17599; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 14:47:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA17509 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 14:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freya.cs.umass.edu (freya.cs.umass.edu [128.119.40.195]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA16537 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 14:45:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.119.41.182] (darkstar.cs.umass.edu [128.119.41.182]) by freya.cs.umass.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19828; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 14:44:36 -0400 X-Sender: greene@giane.cs.umass.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 14:44:28 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, peter@stairways.com.au, netpresenz@list.stairways.com From: John Greene Subject: [netatalk-admins] NetPresenz mounting CAP vs. netatalk Cc: system@freya.cs.umass.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi -- We've been running NetPresenz for a while now and we have a CAP volume mount automatically when anonymous users login (with smnt MacPublic:Public File Server@zone). Since NetP 4.1 this has been super fast and wonderful... Today we moved our Public Server from a DEC Alpha running cap to a linux box running netAtalk.... Now we can't successfully mount volumes with smnt. Help? Thanks.... -- . Qapla', . ' John Greene - Associate Software Specialist . * . Computer Science Computing Facility - UMass ` +++++++++++++ BoB Booo oooooo +++++++++++++ Web page: -jg Mac Resources: * Finger @darkstar.cs.umass.edu for AKOinfo, including PGP public key * From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 10 18:01:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA26433; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:01:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA26140; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:00:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA02097; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:00:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA02088 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:00:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kiste.pingnet.de (router.pingnet.de [194.148.12.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA02070 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kiste.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id AAA19838 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 00:00:23 +0200 Received: from [192.168.59.2] (powermac.poc.pingnet.de [192.168.59.2]) by leela.poc.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA06879 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 22:08:55 +0200 X-Sender: poc@leela.poc.pingnet.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199710101421.JAA28124@canonasl.lab.knet.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 22:05:18 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Routing Problems between LocalTalk and EtherTalk Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >The popular wisdom >seems to be that this will not be fixed in the 2.0.X series of >kernels. So this is a kernel problem (DDP-Support)? This is VERY bad to read. I thought, I could workaround it, if I print over the spoolsystem. But I couldn't get this to work. I read doco and FAQs, set my printcap up right. A job send by lpr will be processed but never gets through to the printer. /usr/local/etc/psf < testtextfile |pap -p "QMS-PS 410:LaserWriter@Local" prints out successfully. The lpr job never, but ps says pap is running and some ofpap status information appears in the syslog, they all state success (1.4b2 unpatched). [Printcap:] lp|qms:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/qms:\ :lp=/dev/null:\ :if=/usr/local/printerfilter/ifpap:\ :of=/usr/local/printerfilter/ofpap:\ :tf=/usr/local/printerfilter/tfpap:\ :df=/usr/local/printerfilter/dfpap:\ :mx#0:sh: [/var/spool/lpd/qms/.paprc] QMS-PS 410:LaserWriter@Local I tried this in various escapes and quotes, but it won't work. If I call pap from within this directory, it finds the printer and prints, so I don't suspect the error here. I tested printing over /dev/lp and this works fine! Can anybody guess, what I'm doing wrong? If you need more information, I'll supply this. :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 10 18:45:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA18825; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:45:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA17924; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:44:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA16559; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA16553 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:44:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kiste.pingnet.de (router.pingnet.de [194.148.12.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA16533 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:44:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kiste.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id AAA20005 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 00:43:58 +0200 Received: from [192.168.59.2] (powermac.poc.pingnet.de [192.168.59.2]) by leela.poc.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA07574 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 00:43:22 +0200 X-Sender: poc@leela.poc.pingnet.de Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 00:43:19 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: [netatalk-admins] papd NBP Type Selection Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, are there any plans to make the nbptype of a papd-printerspooler user selectable in papd.conf? :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 10 19:09:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA00387; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:09:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA29808; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:08:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA03254; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:08:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA03251 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:08:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from solist. ([193.219.246.204]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id TAA03235 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:08:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from partitur.se by solist. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id AAA03266; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 00:13:14 +0200 Message-ID: <343EA87A.C3B9A020@partitur.se> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 00:13:14 +0200 From: Palle Girgensohn Organization: Partitur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Greene , netatalk-admins@umich.edu, peter@stairways.com.au, netpresenz@list.stairways.com CC: system@freya.cs.umass.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NetPresenz mounting CAP vs. netatalk References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu John, Your problem might be related to the fact that NetaTalk doesn't support aliases. Actually, Netatalk dosn't support folder identies, while CAP can be set up with an extra daemon (sorry, can't remember the name. afpidsrv something?) that handles the file/folder identities. I'm not sure, but I think that this also goes for the volumes. For now, I don't think there is a solution to this in Netatalk, but I may be wrong. Regards, Palle John Greene wrote: > > Hi -- > > We've been running NetPresenz for a while now and we have a > CAP volume mount automatically when anonymous users login > (with smnt MacPublic:Public File Server@zone). Since NetP 4.1 > this has been super fast and wonderful... > > Today we moved our Public Server from a DEC Alpha running cap > to a linux box running netAtalk.... Now we can't successfully > mount volumes with smnt. > > Help? > > Thanks.... > > -- > . > Qapla', . ' John Greene - Associate Software Specialist > . * . Computer Science Computing Facility - UMass > ` +++++++++++++ BoB Booo oooooo +++++++++++++ > Web page: > -jg Mac Resources: > > * Finger @darkstar.cs.umass.edu for AKOinfo, including PGP public key * From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Oct 11 01:00:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id BAA22675; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 01:00:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id BAA22632; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 01:00:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id BAA22627; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 01:00:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id AAA22392; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 00:59:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199710110459.AAA22392@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Patrik Schindler cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] papd NBP Type Selection In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 11 Oct 1997 00:43:19 +0200." Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 00:59:17 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Patrik Schindler > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > are there any plans to make the nbptype of a papd-printerspooler user > selectable in papd.conf? In 1.4b2, it already is. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Oct 11 07:02:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA17455; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 07:02:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA17451; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 07:02:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA26889; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 07:02:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA26868 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 07:02:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kiste.pingnet.de (router.pingnet.de [194.148.12.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA26864 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 07:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kiste.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id NAA22401 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 13:01:54 +0200 Received: from [192.168.59.2] (powermac.poc.pingnet.de [192.168.59.2]) by leela.poc.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA11126 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 12:21:36 +0200 X-Sender: poc@leela.poc.pingnet.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199710110459.AAA22392@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: Your message of "Sat, 11 Oct 1997 00:43:19 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 12:21:16 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] papd NBP Type Selection Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi wes! >> are there any plans to make the nbptype of a papd-printerspooler user >> selectable in papd.conf? >In 1.4b2, it already is. Oh? Where can I read more about it? [excerpt from manpage] Name Type Default Descripton pd str ``.ppd'' Pathname to PPD file pr str ``lp'' LPD printer name op str ``operator'' Operator name for LPD spooling There's no Tag for the nbptype described. :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Oct 11 10:04:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA12375; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 10:04:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id KAA12355; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 10:04:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id KAA12346; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 10:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA12260; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 10:03:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199710111403.KAA12260@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Patrik Schindler cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] papd NBP Type Selection In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 11 Oct 1997 12:21:16 +0200." Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 10:03:22 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Patrik Schindler > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Oh? Where can I read more about it? > There's no Tag for the nbptype described. The salient paragraph: papd is typically started at boot time, out of /etc/rc. It first reads from its configuration file, /usr/local/atalk/etc/papd.conf. The file is in the same format as /etc/printcap. See printcap(5) for details. The name of the entry is registered with NBP. If you name the entry something like: Printer Spooler\072NotALaserWriter:\ :etc: you'll register the name "Printer Spooler" with the type "NotALaserWriter". The \072 is the octal value for ascii ':'. Since ':' is interpreted by the termcap libraries, it must be escaped in this way. I guess you could say that's a little obfuscated... :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Oct 11 11:01:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA19335; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 11:01:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA19313; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 11:01:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA22860; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 11:01:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA22852 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 11:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kiste.pingnet.de (router.pingnet.de [194.148.12.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA22822 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 11:01:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kiste.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id RAA23163 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 17:00:16 +0200 Received: from [192.168.59.2] (powermac.poc.pingnet.de [192.168.59.2]) by leela.poc.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA01789 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 16:10:19 +0200 X-Sender: poc@leela.poc.pingnet.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199710111403.KAA12260@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: Your message of "Sat, 11 Oct 1997 12:21:16 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 16:10:14 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] papd NBP Type Selection Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >If you name the entry something like: > > Printer Spooler\072NotALaserWriter:\ > :etc: > >you'll register the name "Printer Spooler" with the type >"NotALaserWriter". The \072 is the octal value for ascii ':'. Since >':' is interpreted by the termcap libraries, it must be escaped in this >way. I guess you could say that's a little obfuscated... Oh yes, it is :-) But thank you anyway! :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Oct 11 15:00:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA26900; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:00:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA26896; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:00:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA07023; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:00:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA07020 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:00:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kiste.pingnet.de (router.pingnet.de [194.148.12.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA07016 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:00:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kiste.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id VAA23936 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 21:00:17 +0200 Received: from [192.168.59.2] (powermac.poc.pingnet.de [192.168.59.2]) by leela.poc.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA02181 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 17:21:43 +0200 X-Sender: poc@leela.poc.pingnet.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199710111403.KAA12260@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: Your message of "Sat, 11 Oct 1997 12:21:16 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 17:21:37 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] papd NBP Type Selection Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >you'll register the name "Printer Spooler" with the type >"NotALaserWriter". The \072 is the octal value for ascii ':'. Since >':' is interpreted by the termcap libraries, it must be escaped in this >way. I just tested it and it's OK if you escape it this way: DW-Spool\:DeskWriter:pr=dw:pd=/dev/null:op=poc: If anyone will test this with a DeskWriter or DeskJet, he may fail. The Driver (6.03) says "Waiting for printer" then locks the whole machine, including cursor. Really good work from HP... :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Oct 11 19:10:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA00620; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 19:10:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA00614; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 19:10:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA13322; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 19:10:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA13319 for netatalk.administrators-members@itd.umich.edu; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 19:10:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from silverserver.co.at (silverserver.vbs.at [194.152.167.65]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA13311 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 19:10:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ost@localhost) by silverserver.co.at (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id BAA07879 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:10:15 +0200 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:10:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: ost X-Sender: ost@silverserver.co.at To: netatalk-admins@itd.umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] users can't login In-Reply-To: <340C314C.D9BD62AF@gelderlander.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu i have installed and running netatalk 1.3.3 on linux 2.0.29 everything there in the chhoser. but the only user able to mount directories from a mac is me, though i dont see any apparent reason for that. those who have tried all have working shell accounts. i have shadow passwords on my system and i have compiled with the modified "auth.c" file. i ve built and installed as root. what have i missed? thx. oswald From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Oct 12 02:56:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id CAA15814; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 02:56:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id CAA15810; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 02:56:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA23989; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 02:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA23987 for netatalk.administrators-members@itd.umich.edu; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 02:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lnx.url.de (lnx.url.de [195.27.26.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id CAA23983 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 02:56:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lnx.url.de (mego@lnx.url.de [195.27.26.1]) by lnx.url.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA27692; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 08:56:05 +0200 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 08:56:05 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andreas Pieper To: ost cc: netatalk-admins@itd.umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] users can't login In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu hi ost, try 1.4b2 (maybe with the optional asun-patches for asip), it is very stable on my system (2.0.27). compiled "out of the box" with -DSHADOWPW defined in /sys/linux/Makefile. ab nach malaga! hehe.. best, a On Sun, 12 Oct 1997, ost wrote: > i have installed and running netatalk 1.3.3 on linux 2.0.29 > everything there in the chhoser. > but the only user able to mount directories from a mac > is me, though i dont see any apparent reason for that. > those who have tried all have working shell accounts. > i have shadow passwords on my system and i have compiled with the > modified "auth.c" file. > i ve built and installed as root. > what have i missed? > thx. > oswald > Andreas Pieper http://www.icf.de/mego/ Mego Berlin mailto:mego@url.de From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Oct 12 15:18:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA13247; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:18:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA13243; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:18:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA25753; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:18:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA25748 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:18:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jots1.ca.metsci.com (jots1.ca.metsci.com [199.106.147.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id PAA25735 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 15:17:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tomcat.ca.metsci.com by jots1.ca.metsci.com with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA24747; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:16:32 -0700 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:14:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Solmssen To: Patrik Schindler , Netatalk List Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] papd NBP Type Selection In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've just experienced the same problem using the 9.3 HP driver, and I think the issue is that the driver is attempting to interrogate the printer, and papd is without a ppd to use to form a reply that the driver is looking for. I don't know what to do here except use the postscript emulation provided by ghostscript. Any thoughts? ---- Andrew On Sat, 11 Oct 1997, Patrik Schindler wrote: > >you'll register the name "Printer Spooler" with the type > >"NotALaserWriter". The \072 is the octal value for ascii ':'. Since > >':' is interpreted by the termcap libraries, it must be escaped in this > >way. > > I just tested it and it's OK if you escape it this way: > > DW-Spool\:DeskWriter:pr=dw:pd=/dev/null:op=poc: > > If anyone will test this with a DeskWriter or DeskJet, he may fail. The > Driver (6.03) says "Waiting for printer" then locks the whole machine, > including cursor. Really good work from HP... > > :wq! PoC > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Oct 12 17:03:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA17612; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 17:03:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu id RAA17591; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 17:03:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA14747; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:37:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA23067; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:37:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA23059 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:37:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from klee.architektur.uni-stuttgart.de (si-fddigate.architektur.uni-stuttgart.de [129.69.18.239]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id IAA23038 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:37:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by klee.architektur.uni-stuttgart.de via SMTP (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) for id OAA04972; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 14:37:08 +0200 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 14:37:07 +0200 (MDT) From: Albrecht Jacobs X-Sender: aj@klee To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] more than 2 GB Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I am new to this list. I am looking for a patch which allows the use of netatalk on partitions bigger than 2 GB. I am using 1.4b2. Any chance to get this working? Thanks in advance. Albrecht +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | cand. aer. Albrecht Jacobs CAAD-Labor des SI | | Systembetreuung Universit"at Stuttgart | | | | Liegeradgruppe Stuttgart | | O__ http://www.architektur.uni-stuttgart.de:1200/users/aj/lieger | | \\_/\-o | | (+) O Albrecht.Jacobs@klee.architektur.uni-stuttgart.de | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Oct 12 18:58:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA20118; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:58:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA20114; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:58:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA17463; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:58:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA17455 for netatalk.administrators-members@itd.umich.edu; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:58:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from silverserver.co.at (silverserver.vbs.at [194.152.167.65]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA17421 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:58:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ost@localhost) by silverserver.co.at (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA14461 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:58:48 +0200 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 00:58:48 +0200 (MET DST) From: ost X-Sender: ost@silverserver.co.at Reply-To: ost To: netatalk-admins@itd.umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] make probelm Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu this was already discussed once. i get an sys/quota.h No such file or directory though i ve uncommented -DNEEDQUOTACTL_WRAPPER as told below. i guess i shouldnt copy linux/quota.h to sys/quota.h because when i do i just get another compile error. all this with 1.4b2+asun-patches and 2.0.29.linuts. i compile with DEFS = -DSHADOWPW further hints? thx. oswald On Fri, 5 Sep 1997, Christopher Ptacek wrote: > I'm getting a "sys/quota.h No such file or directory" error in my compile. > Any idea's? > If you are running under Linux, you'll need to edit /netatalk/sys/linux/Makefile and uncomment: -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A N T I M E M O R Y L E A K I N G U P D A T E . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Oct 12 23:01:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id XAA25640; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:01:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id XAA25631; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:01:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id XAA25629; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:01:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id XAA25621; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:01:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199710130301.XAA25621@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Albrecht Jacobs cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] more than 2 GB In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Oct 1997 14:37:07 +0200." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----- =_aaaaaaaaaa0" Content-ID: <25520.876711555.0@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 23:01:17 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <25520.876711555.1@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> > From: Albrecht Jacobs > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > I am new to this list. I am looking for a patch which allows the use of > netatalk on partitions bigger than 2 GB. I am using 1.4b2. Any chance to > get this working? Give the attached patch a try. :wes ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <25520.876711555.2@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Content-Description: large volume patch *** etc/afpd/unix.c- 1997/08/17 00:01:46 --- etc/afpd/unix.c 1997/08/19 01:32:59 *************** *** 78,100 **** #else ultrix struct statfs sfs; #endif ultrix if ( statfs( vol->v_path, &sfs ) < 0 ) { return( AFPERR_PARAM ); } - #ifdef ultrix ! *bfree = sfs.fd_req.bfreen * 1024; #else ! *bfree = sfs.f_bavail * sfs.f_frsize; #endif ultrix #ifdef ultrix ! *btotal = ( sfs.fd_req.btot - ( sfs.fd_req.bfree - sfs.fd_req.bfreen )) * ! 1024; #else ultrix ! *btotal = ( sfs.f_blocks - ( sfs.f_bfree - sfs.f_bavail )) * sfs.f_frsize; #endif ultrix return( AFP_OK ); } --- 78,113 ---- #else ultrix struct statfs sfs; #endif ultrix + u_long multi; if ( statfs( vol->v_path, &sfs ) < 0 ) { return( AFPERR_PARAM ); } #ifdef ultrix ! multi = 1024; ! *bfree = sfs.fd_req.bfreen; #else ! multi = sfs.f_frsize; ! *bfree = sfs.f_bavail; #endif ultrix + if ( *bfree > 0x7fffffff / multi ) { + *bfree = 0x7fffffff; + } else { + *bfree *= multi; + } + #ifdef ultrix ! *btotal = sfs.fd_req.btot - ( sfs.fd_req.bfree - sfs.fd_req.bfreen ); #else ultrix ! *btotal = sfs.f_blocks - ( sfs.f_bfree - sfs.f_bavail ); #endif ultrix + + if ( *btotal > 0x7fffffff / multi ) { + *btotal = 0x7fffffff; + } else { + *btotal *= multi; + } return( AFP_OK ); } ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0-- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Oct 13 09:12:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA01121; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:12:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA01117; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:12:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA14754; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:12:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA14672 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.solid-state-logic.com (mail.solid-state-logic.com [193.117.244.250]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id JAA14624 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:12:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sweeper.solid-state-logic.com ([193.114.196.149]) by mail.solid-state-logic.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA17939 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:14:34 +0200 Received: from solid-state-logic.com (193.114.196.68) by sweeper.solid-state-logic.com (Integralis SMTPRS 1.51) with SMTP id ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 14:14:00 +0100 Received: from sol. by solid-state-logic.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11812; Mon, 13 Oct 97 14:13:42 BST Received: from [193.114.196.173] by sol. (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13797; Mon, 13 Oct 97 14:15:37 BST X-Sender: grahamm@sol.solid-state-logic.com Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 14:12:58 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Graham Moore Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk for solaris 2.6 ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm thinking of using netatalk for our apple connectivity etc. Will it work running on Solaris 2.6 ? Cheers Graham Graham Moore Computer Systems Administrator Solid State Logic From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Oct 13 10:21:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA03345; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA03340; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:20:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA21466; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA21457 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:20:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ttacs1.ttu.edu (ttacs1.ttu.edu [129.118.1.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA21443 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 10:20:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from acm65-1.acs.ttu.edu by TTACS.TTU.EDU (PMDF V5.1-10 #26170) with SMTP id <01IOR4FWJ8RQ8WWTO0@TTACS.TTU.EDU> for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:21:03 CDT Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:15:43 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:15:40 -0500 From: Brandon LaBonte Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk & shadow passwords To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Reply-to: "B.LaBonte@ttu.edu" Message-id: <01BCD7B8.95094BE0.B.LaBonte@ttu.edu> Organization: Academic Computing Services - Texas Tech University MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 ConteFrom owner-netatalk-admins Mon Oct 13 15:19:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA23129; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:19:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA23097; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:19:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA02386; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:19:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA02207 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:19:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jots1.ca.metsci.com (jots1.ca.metsci.com [199.106.147.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id PAA02141 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:19:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tomcat.ca.metsci.com by jots1.ca.metsci.com with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA17475; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:17:13 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:14:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Solmssen To: Patrik Schindler , Netatalk List Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] papd NBP Type Selection In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu What if you hooked the printer up on appletalk long enough for the Mac to talk to it and do whatever it needed to to set up the driver, then disconnected it and put it back on the linux box, with papd advertising the same Appletalk name? ---- Andrew On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Patrik Schindler wrote: > >I don't know what to do here except use the postscript > >emulation provided by ghostscript. > > AFAIK does gs not provide diffusion dithering for output, I won't get > the quality, I want. Please correct me, if I'm wrong! > > :wq! PoC > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Oct 13 18:01:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA05766; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:01:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA05751; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:01:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA02737; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:01:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA02721 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:01:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kiste.pingnet.de (router.pingnet.de [194.148.12.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA02568 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:01:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kiste.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id AAA01407 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 00:00:31 +0200 Received: from [192.168.59.2] (powermac.poc.pingnet.de [192.168.59.2]) by leela.poc.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id WAA07268 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:23:55 +0200 X-Sender: poc@leela.poc.pingnet.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:23:49 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] papd NBP Type Selection Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >What if you hooked the printer up on appletalk long enough for the Mac to >talk to it and do whatever it needed to to set up the driver, then >disconnected it and put it back on the linux box, with papd advertising >the same Appletalk name? Won't work, because there seems to be a routing Problem between EtherTalk and LocalTalk somewhere. Maybe I'd have to try a 2.1.xx Kernel to see if it's fixed... :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 14 14:00:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA20248; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:00:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA20229; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:00:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA12053; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:00:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA12045 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:00:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pragmatix.bangor.ac.uk (pragmatix.bangor.ac.uk [147.143.2.14]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id HAA29928 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 07:51:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [147.143.1.68] by pragmatix.bangor.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA20981; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:51:09 +0100 Message-Id: <199710141151.MAA20981@pragmatix.bangor.ac.uk> Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk 1.4b3? When? Date: Tue, 14 Oct 97 12:55:32 +0100 x-sender: iss040@pragmatix.bangor.ac.uk x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Ian Roberts To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I was wondering if anyone could tell me when b3 will be coming out? I'm trying to replace our CAP implementation with netatalk, but I am having problems with the fact that the current 1.4b2 implementation on SOLARIS will not perform any routing. If you could reply via personal email, i would be extremely grateful. Thanks Ian _________________i a n r o b e r t s ______________________ Systems Officer, Information Services, tel: +44 1248 382960 University of Wales Bangor, fax: +44 1248 383826 Sackville Road, Bangor, Wales, UK. LL57 1LD e-mail: I.Roberts@bangor.ac.uk ______________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 14 17:03:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA14186; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:03:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA13933; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:03:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA18734; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:03:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA18637 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:02:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elf.labmed.umn.edu (elf.labmed.umn.edu [128.101.59.25]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA18450 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:02:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kareem@localhost) by elf.labmed.umn.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) id NAA20720; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 13:43:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 13:43:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Kareem Kazkaz Subject: [netatalk-admins] getwd, getdtablesize, wait3, Oh My! To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Cc: kareem@email.labmed.umn.edu Message-Id: Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello there. I am compiling netatalk-1.4b2 on my Solaris 2.5.1 system using gcc-2.7.2.2 and am running into problems with unknown function calls. I have created a kludge.h file that I use to replace calls to functions index, rindex, bzero, bcopy, and bcmp, but I am now running into problems with the functions getdtablesize, getwd, and wait3. I was wondering if these functions have replacements similar to how the other functions I have mentioned have replacements. If anybody knows, could you drop me a hint? Also, if anybody knows of other functions I may run into that might not exist on my system, please clue me in to those as well. For the curious, here is the kludge.h file I use to make the replacements mentioned above: /* kludge.h This file is used to replace calls to the functions listed below. Caveat programmer. */ #define index strchr #define rindex strrchr #define bcopy(a, b, c) memcpy(b, a, c) #define bzero(d, e) memset(d, 0, e) #define bcmp(f, g, h) ( strncmp(f, g, h) == 0 ? 0 : 1 ) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kareem Kazkaz System Manager Health Computer Sciences kareem@email.labmed.umn.edu PHONE: (612) 625-3694 FAX: (612) 625-7166 Mail Address: Box 511 Mayo, 420 Delaware Street SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455 Office Address: V366A VFWCRC, 406 Harvard Street SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 14 17:29:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA17806; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:29:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA17799; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:29:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA06412; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:29:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA06340 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:29:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA06295 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA04834; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (bioserver.bio.mtu.edu [141.219.40.72]) by mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA11923; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:29:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (bioserver.bio.mtu.edu [141.219.40.72]) by bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id RAA20928; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:29:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:29:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@bioserver.bio.mtu.edu To: Kareem Kazkaz cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] getwd, getdtablesize, wait3, Oh My! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > I am compiling netatalk-1.4b2 on my Solaris 2.5.1 system using gcc-2.7.2.2 > and am running into problems with unknown function calls. I have created > a kludge.h file that I use to replace calls to functions index, rindex, bzero, > bcopy, and bcmp, but I am now running into problems with the functions > getdtablesize, getwd, and wait3. I was wondering if these functions have I think your problem is somewhere else. The following output is from a local system here, editing to show only the good parts. critter:src/rumba.0.4.s% uname -a SunOS critter 5.5.1 Generic_103640-08 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-1 critter:~% nm /usr/lib/libc.a | egrep 'bzero|bcmp|bcopy|getdtable|getwd|wait3' [6] | 0| 44|FUNC |GLOB |0 |2 |bcmp [7] | 0| 40|FUNC |GLOB |0 |2 |bcopy [6] | 0| 40|FUNC |GLOB |0 |2 |bzero [6] | 0| 28|FUNC |GLOB |0 |2 |getdtablesize [10] | 0| 132|FUNC |GLOB |0 |2 |getwd [6] | 0| 40|FUNC |GLOB |0 |2 |wait3 I can't say that I know off the top of my head what your problem is, but I can say that you have a fairly major problem with your gcc installation. Could it be that gcc was not compiled to look in your standard library directories, like /usr/lib? All of your 'missing' functions are available in libc. - edan -- Edan Idzerda System Administrator -- Michigan Technological University, Houghton MI USA From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 14 18:48:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA18500; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:48:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id SAA18303; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:48:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id SAA18281; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:48:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA18238; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:48:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199710142248.SAA18238@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Jeff Wiegley cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] more than 2 GB In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Oct 1997 15:39:26 PDT." <3443F49E.AB5216C3@w3-design.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----- =_aaaaaaaaaa0" Content-ID: <18129.876869287.0@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:48:19 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <18129.876869287.1@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> > From: Jeff Wiegley > To: wesley.craig@umich.edu > this patch fails for me against stock 1.4b2... Grrr. That patch is actually between two snap-shots, not from 1.4b2 to current code. Try the attached version... :wes ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <18129.876869287.2@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Content-Description: second try *** etc/afpd/unix.c- Tue Oct 1 15:26:52 1996 --- etc/afpd/unix.c Mon Aug 18 21:32:59 1997 *************** *** 77,100 **** #else ultrix struct statfs sfs; #endif ultrix if ( statfs( vol->v_path, &sfs ) < 0 ) { return( AFPERR_PARAM ); } - #ifdef ultrix ! *bfree = sfs.fd_req.bfreen * 1024; #else ! *bfree = sfs.f_bavail * sfs.f_frsize; #endif ultrix #ifdef ultrix ! *btotal = ( sfs.fd_req.btot - ( sfs.fd_req.bfree - sfs.fd_req.bfreen )) * ! 1024; #else ultrix ! *btotal = ( sfs.f_blocks - ( sfs.f_bfree - sfs.f_bavail )) * sfs.f_frsize; #endif ultrix return( AFP_OK ); } --- 78,114 ---- #else ultrix struct statfs sfs; #endif ultrix + u_long multi; if ( statfs( vol->v_path, &sfs ) < 0 ) { return( AFPERR_PARAM ); } #ifdef ultrix ! multi = 1024; ! *bfree = sfs.fd_req.bfreen; #else ! multi = sfs.f_frsize; ! *bfree = sfs.f_bavail; #endif ultrix + if ( *bfree > 0x7fffffff / multi ) { + *bfree = 0x7fffffff; + } else { + *bfree *= multi; + } + #ifdef ultrix ! *btotal = sfs.fd_req.btot - ( sfs.fd_req.bfree - sfs.fd_req.bfreen ); #else ultrix ! *btotal = sfs.f_blocks - ( sfs.f_bfree - sfs.f_bavail ); #endif ultrix + if ( *btotal > 0x7fffffff / multi ) { + *btotal = 0x7fffffff; + } else { + *btotal *= multi; + } + return( AFP_OK ); } ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0-- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 14 21:14:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA24425; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:14:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA24009; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:13:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA17944; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:13:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA17832 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:13:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amethea.nsi.edu (amethea.nsi.edu [198.133.185.9]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA17611 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:13:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sydney.nsi.edu (sydney.nsi.edu [198.133.185.70]) by amethea.nsi.edu (8.7.1/NSI-1.0) with SMTP id MAA08355 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:53:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian Fernald" To: "Netatalk" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.6 & netatalk compilation error Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:53:19 -0700 Message-ID: <01bcd8da$d222d6e0$46b985c6@sydney.nsi.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am trying to compile under Solaris 2.6. I am using the latest version of gcc. I get the following error . Is this a problem under solaris 2.6? Does anyone have any suggestions of how to get around this? Making all for solaris... gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -D__svr4 __ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c aarp.c gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -D__svr4 __ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c ddp.c gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -D__svr4 __ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c ddptp_rdq.c gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -D__svr4 __ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c ddptp_utls.c ddptp_utls.c:49: conflicting types for `msgdsize' /usr/include/sys/stream.h:705: previous declaration of `msgdsize' ddptp_utls.c:52: conflicting types for `allocb' /usr/include/sys/stream.h:687: previous declaration of `allocb' *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `ddptp_utls.o' Current working directory /source/netatalk/netatalk-1.4b2/sys/solaris *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all' Thanks, Brian Fernald Systems & Network Administrator The Neurosciences Institute Phone : 619-626-2000 Fax : 619-626-2099 Email : fernald@nsi.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 14 21:15:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA24663; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:15:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA24102; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:13:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA18056; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:13:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA17991 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:13:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amethea.nsi.edu (amethea.nsi.edu [198.133.185.9]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA17664 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:13:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sydney.nsi.edu (sydney.nsi.edu [198.133.185.70]) by amethea.nsi.edu (8.7.1/NSI-1.0) with SMTP id MAA08184 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:03:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian Fernald" To: "Netatalk" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Source Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:03:51 -0700 Message-ID: <01bcd8d3$e8ad45a0$46b985c6@sydney.nsi.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Where can I get the source so I can compile it on Solaris 2.6. Thanks, Brian Fernald Systems & Network Administrator The Neurosciences Institute Phone : 619-626-2000 Fax : 619-626-2099 Email : fernald@nsi.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 14 21:15:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA24676; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:15:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA24383; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:14:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA18238; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:14:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA18234 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:14:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amethea.nsi.edu (amethea.nsi.edu [198.133.185.9]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA17435 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:12:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sydney.nsi.edu (sydney.nsi.edu [198.133.185.70]) by amethea.nsi.edu (8.7.1/NSI-1.0) with SMTP id PAA10624 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 15:54:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian Fernald" To: "Netatalk" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.6 & Compilation errors Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 15:54:23 -0700 Message-ID: <01bcd8f4$1d6af560$46b985c6@sydney.nsi.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am trying to compile under Solaris 2.6. I am using the latest version of gcc. I get the following error . Is this a problem under solaris 2.6? Does anyone have any suggestions of how to get around this? Making all for solaris... gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -D__svr4 __ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c aarp.c gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -D__svr4 __ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c ddp.c gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -D__svr4 __ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c ddptp_rdq.c gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -D__svr4 __ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c ddptp_utls.c ddptp_utls.c:49: conflicting types for `msgdsize' /usr/include/sys/stream.h:705: previous declaration of `msgdsize' ddptp_utls.c:52: conflicting types for `allocb' /usr/include/sys/stream.h:687: previous declaration of `allocb' *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `ddptp_utls.o' Current working directory /source/netatalk/netatalk-1.4b2/sys/solaris *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all' Thanks, Brian Fernald Systems & Network Administrator The Neurosciences Institute Phone : 619-626-2000 Fax : 619-626-2099 Email : fernald@nsi.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 14 21:23:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA26296; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:23:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA26093; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:23:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA23462; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:23:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA23386 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:23:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tajin.cice.mx (tajin.cice.mx [148.230.37.100]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA23104 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mhaza@localhost) by tajin.cice.mx (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA24154 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 20:07:17 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 20:07:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Mario Haza To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Routing question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have a RedHat 4.2 (kernel 2.0.30) for SPARC (SS4) and NetAtalk 1.4b2 ported for SPARC. I configured atalkd.conf with the -seed parameter with the porpouse to make netatalk define a zone (like the uar on CAP). I am wondering if this make sense or i have to use another software to make zones. Thanks. ************************************************************************* * _ * * Mario "Mago" Haza. / \ ___ * * Centro de Investigacion en Computacion Educativa \ \ /\_/ * * Coordinacion de Soporte Tecnico \ \ / / * * Research Center for Computing & Education \ \ / / * * Technical Support / O O \ * * | >o< | * * e-mail: mhaza@ua9000.dcc.anahuac.mx \ _[|]_ / * * mhaza@www.dcc.anahuac.mx ____{||}___{||}____ * * mhaza@tajin.cice.mx |_________________| * * | | * * Tel. (5) 627-0210 Ext. 8530 u 8527 | | * * Ciudad de Mexico (Mexico City) | | * * |___________| * * * ************************************************************************* From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 14 21:24:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA26532; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:24:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA26158; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:23:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA23533; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:23:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA23494 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:23:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tajin.cice.mx (tajin.cice.mx [148.230.37.100]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA23391 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:23:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mhaza@localhost) by tajin.cice.mx (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA22448 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:45:13 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:45:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Mario Haza To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Routing question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have a RedHat 4.2 (kernel 2.0.30) for SPARC (SS4) and NetAtalk 1.4b2 ported for SPARC. I configured atalkd.conf with the -seed parameter with the porpouse to make netatalk define a zone (like the uar on CAP). I am wondering if this make sense or i have to use another software to make zones. Thanks. ************************************************************************* * _ * * Mario "Mago" Haza. / \ ___ * * Centro de Investigacion en Computacion Educativa \ \ /\_/ * * Coordinacion de Soporte Tecnico \ \ / / * * Research Center for Computing & Education \ \ / / * * Technical Support / O O \ * * | >o< | * * e-mail: mhaza@ua9000.dcc.anahuac.mx \ _[|]_ / * * mhaza@www.dcc.anahuac..mx ____{||}___{||}____ * * mhaza@tajin.cice.mx |_________________| * * | | * * Tel. (5) 627-0210 Ext. 8530 u 8527 | | * * Ciudad de Mexico (Mexico City) | | * * |___________| * * * ************************************************************************* From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 14 21:24:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA26539; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:24:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA26207; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:23:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA23623; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:23:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA23588 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:23:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tajin.cice.mx (tajin.cice.mx [148.230.37.100]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA23506 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:23:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mhaza@localhost) by tajin.cice.mx (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA22370; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:24:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:24:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Mario Haza To: Graham Moore cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk for solaris 2.6 ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, Graham Moore wrote: > Hi, > > I'm thinking of using netatalk for our apple connectivity etc. Will it > work running on Solaris 2.6 ? > I tried on last week. The fileserver works fine but the papd daemon kills himself with no apparently reason. The other pap (printing from UNIX to Mac printers) works fine. It's just the printer ademon which fails. ************************************************************************* * _ * * Mario "Mago" Haza. / \ ___ * * Centro de Investigacion en Computacion Educativa \ \ /\_/ * * Coordinacion de Soporte Tecnico \ \ / / * * Research Center for Computing & Education \ \ / / * * Technical Support / O O \ * * | >o< | * * e-mail: mhaza@ua9000.dcc..anahuac.mx \ _[|]_ / * * mhaza@www.dcc.anahuac.mx ____{||}___{||}____ * * mhaza@tajin.cice.mx |_________________| * * | | * * Tel. (5) 627-0210 Ext. 8530 u 8527 | | * * Ciudad de Mexico (Mexico City) | | * * |___________| * * * ************************************************************************* From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 14 22:40:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id WAA01741; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:40:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id WAA01735; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:40:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id WAA01733; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:40:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id WAA01723; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:40:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199710150240.WAA01723@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Jeff Wiegley cc: Albrecht Jacobs , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] more than 2 GB In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:50:11 PDT." <34440533.CA083C66@w3-design.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:40:44 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Jeff Wiegley > To: wesley.craig@umich.edu > but my volumes are still showing a size of 1.9Gig even with the patch > installed. > How can I get the true size working properly? You can remove the compares against 0x7fffffff. But if you do that, old MacOSs won't get correct info. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 14 22:46:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id WAA02029; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:46:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id WAA02016; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:46:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA06282; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA06253 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:46:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA06224 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:46:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA26992 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:41:19 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA29496; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710150046.RAA29496@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] pre-a17-12 snapshot available Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu could people try out pre-a17-2? it fixes a bunch of stuff from the earlier snapshot. i would also like to know if it compiles successfully under solaris 2.6. remember to read README.ASUN and edit the Makefile appropriately. what this version does over the previous snapshot: 1) fixes for randnum and 2-way randnum 2) large volume fix (gcc could generate incorrect code before) 3) a denial-of-service fix 4) you can now use your "real name" as specified in your password entry to connect. if you don't want to be able to do this, compile with -DNO_REAL_USER_NAME. 5) you can now bind afpd to a specific ip address using "-address x.x.x.x" in the afpd.conf file. as always, it's in ftp.u.washington.edu:/public/asun/pre-a17-12.tar.gz -a From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 14 23:03:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id XAA03077; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 23:03:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id XAA03073; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 23:02:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA15338; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 23:03:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA15310 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 23:03:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elf.labmed.umn.edu (elf.labmed.umn.edu [128.101.59.25]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA15234 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 23:03:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kareem@localhost) by elf.labmed.umn.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) id QAA21089; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:33:09 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:33:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Kareem Kazkaz Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: getwd, getdtablesize, wait3, Oh My! To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Cc: kareem@email.labmed.umn.edu Message-Id: Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >I am now running into problems with the functions >getdtablesize, getwd, and wait3. I was wondering if these functions have >replacements similar to how the other functions I have mentioned have >replacements. I have answered at least part of my own question. getcwd is equivalent to getwd. I have added the following line to kludge.h #define getwd(i) getcwd(i, MAXPATHLEN) That leaves getdtablesize and wait3. Kareem --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kareem Kazkaz System Manager Health Computer Sciences kareem@email.labmed.umn.edu PHONE: (612) 625-3694 FAX: (612) 625-7166 Mail Address: Box 511 Mayo, 420 Delaware Street SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455 Office Address: V366A VFWCRC, 406 Harvard Street SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 14 23:30:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id XAA04542; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 23:30:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id XAA04538; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 23:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA29089; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 23:31:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA13434 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elf.labmed.umn.edu (elf.labmed.umn.edu [128.101.59.25]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA13063 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 17:41:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from kareem@localhost) by elf.labmed.umn.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) id QAA21878; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:40:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:40:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Kareem Kazkaz Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] getwd, getdtablesize, wait3, Oh My! To: Edan Idzerda Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, kareem@email.labmed.umn.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >> I am compiling netatalk-1.4b2 on my Solaris 2.5.1 system using gcc-2.7.2.2 >> and am running into problems with unknown function calls. I have created >> a kludge.h file that I use to replace calls to functions index, rindex, bzero, >> bcopy, and bcmp, but I am now running into problems with the functions >> getdtablesize, getwd, and wait3. I was wondering if these functions have > >I think your problem is somewhere else. The following output is from >a local system here, editing to show only the good parts. [snip] >I can't say that I know off the top of my head what your >problem is, but I can say that you have a fairly major >problem with your gcc installation. Could it be that >gcc was not compiled to look in your standard library >directories, like /usr/lib? All of your 'missing' >functions are available in libc. Blimey. gcc looks first in /usr/local/lib for libraries, and if it finds them looks no further. The libc.a in /usr/lib does indeed have everything I'm looking for, though. Thank you very much. This was getting to be frustrating. Kareem --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kareem Kazkaz System Manager Health Computer Sciences kareem@email.labmed.umn.edu PHONE: (612) 625-3694 FAX: (612) 625-7166 Mail Address: Box 511 Mayo, 420 Delaware Street SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455 Office Address: V366A VFWCRC, 406 Harvard Street SE, Minneapolis, MN 55455 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 15 03:00:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id DAA25284; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 03:00:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id DAA25268; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 03:00:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA01430; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 03:00:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA01418 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 03:00:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kiste.pingnet.de (router.pingnet.de [194.148.12.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id DAA01404 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 03:00:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kiste.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id JAA07925 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 09:00:15 +0200 Received: from [192.168.59.2] (powermac.poc.pingnet.de [192.168.59.2]) by leela.poc.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA02483 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:14:50 +0200 X-Sender: poc@leela.poc.pingnet.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 08:13:42 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Routing question Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >I am wondering if this make sense or i have to use another software to >make zones. You'll have to use more than one Interface to make atalkd seed. Use the dummy-interface for this. Please shorten your really too big footer. :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 15 04:34:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id EAA00464; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 04:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id EAA00460; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 04:33:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA28499; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 04:34:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA13747 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:23:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freya.cs.umass.edu (freya.cs.umass.edu [128.119.40.195]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA12592 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:21:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freya.cs.umass.edu (freya.cs.umass.edu [128.119.40.195]) by freya.cs.umass.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA04887; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 11:34:58 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 11:34:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Valerie Caro To: peter@stairways.com.au cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: NetPresenz mounting CAP vs. netatalk (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:27:00 -0500 From: John Greene To: valerie@cs.umass.edu Cc: netpresenz@list.stairways.com Subject: Re: NetPresenz mounting CAP vs. netatalk Hi -- Checking the "allow clear text passwords" didn't seem to help help.... >Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:22:38 -0700 >Reply-To: peter@stairways.com.au >Originator: netpresenz@list.stairways.com >From: Peter N Lewis >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: Re: NetPresenz mounting CAP vs. netatalk > >At 11:47 -0700 10/10/97, John Greene wrote: > >>Today we moved our Public Server from a DEC Alpha running cap >>to a linux box running netAtalk.... Now we can't successfully >>mount volumes with smnt. > >It's possible that the new cap isn't supporting an acceptable >authentication method (try turning on NetPresenz' "aloow clear text >passwords" option. > >What error do you get it you manually try to smnt the volume after logging in? > Peter. > >-- > > > > We are able to mount the volume as guest when going through the chooser. But when we try from NetPresenz it gets an error. I logged the afpd output on the netatalk side: When mounting from the chooser we get: command: 18 12 0E 41 46 50 56 65 72 73 69 6F 6E 20 32 2E 30 ..AFPVersion 2.0 0F 4E 6F 20 55 73 65 72 20 41 75 74 68 65 6E 74 .No User Authent (end) reply: 0, 0 (end) command: 16 10 . (end) reply: 0, 1 34 43 78 25 01 00 09 4D 61 63 50 75 62 6C 69 63 4Cx%...MacPublic (end) command: 24 18 00 00 20 09 4D 61 63 50 75 62 6C 69 63 ... .MacPublic (end) reply: 0, 2 00 20 00 00 . .. (end) When mounting from NetPresenz: command: 18 12 0E 41 46 50 56 65 72 73 69 6F 6E 20 32 2E 30 ..AFPVersion 2.0 0F 4E 6F 20 55 73 65 72 20 41 75 74 68 65 6E 74 .No User Authent (end) reply: 0, 0 (end) command: 24 18 00 00 23 09 4D 61 63 50 75 62 6C 69 63 ...#.MacPublic (end) reply: -5019, 1 (end) The only difference seems to be in command 24, with NetPresenz it has a '#' (18 00 00 23) and with the chooser it has a ' ' (18 00 00 20) Any ideas? Valerie Caro valerie@cs.umass.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 15 05:23:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id FAA17173; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 05:23:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id FAA17169; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 05:23:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA23591; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:17:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA23513 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:17:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from argonaut.w3-design.com (argonaut.w3-design.com [207.155.61.155]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA23076; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 22:16:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from w3-design.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00796; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:50:11 -0700 Message-ID: <34440533.CA083C66@w3-design.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:50:11 -0700 From: Jeff Wiegley Organization: W3-design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.31 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wesley.craig@umich.edu CC: Albrecht Jacobs , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] more than 2 GB References: <199710130301.XAA25621@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I got this patch to install correctly. but my volumes are still showing a size of 1.9Gig even with the patch installed. How can I get the true size working properly? - Jeff wesley.craig@umich.edu wrote: > > > From: Albrecht Jacobs > > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > > > I am new to this list. I am looking for a patch which allows the use of > > netatalk on partitions bigger than 2 GB. I am using 1.4b2. Any chance to > > get this working? > > Give the attached patch a try. > > :wes > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *** etc/afpd/unix.c- 1997/08/17 00:01:46 > --- etc/afpd/unix.c 1997/08/19 01:32:59 > *************** > *** 78,100 **** > #else ultrix > struct statfs sfs; > #endif ultrix > > if ( statfs( vol->v_path, &sfs ) < 0 ) { > return( AFPERR_PARAM ); > } > - > #ifdef ultrix > ! *bfree = sfs.fd_req.bfreen * 1024; > #else > ! *bfree = sfs.f_bavail * sfs.f_frsize; > #endif ultrix > > #ifdef ultrix > ! *btotal = ( sfs.fd_req.btot - ( sfs.fd_req.bfree - sfs.fd_req.bfreen )) * > ! 1024; > #else ultrix > ! *btotal = ( sfs.f_blocks - ( sfs.f_bfree - sfs.f_bavail )) * sfs.f_frsize; > #endif ultrix > > return( AFP_OK ); > } > --- 78,113 ---- > #else ultrix > struct statfs sfs; > #endif ultrix > + u_long multi; > > if ( statfs( vol->v_path, &sfs ) < 0 ) { > return( AFPERR_PARAM ); > } > #ifdef ultrix > ! multi = 1024; > ! *bfree = sfs.fd_req.bfreen; > #else > ! multi = sfs.f_frsize; > ! *bfree = sfs.f_bavail; > #endif ultrix > > + if ( *bfree > 0x7fffffff / multi ) { > + *bfree = 0x7fffffff; > + } else { > + *bfree *= multi; > + } > + > #ifdef ultrix > ! *btotal = sfs.fd_req.btot - ( sfs.fd_req.bfree - sfs.fd_req.bfreen ); > #else ultrix > ! *btotal = sfs.f_blocks - ( sfs.f_bfree - sfs.f_bavail ); > #endif ultrix > + > + if ( *btotal > 0x7fffffff / multi ) { > + *btotal = 0x7fffffff; > + } else { > + *btotal *= multi; > + } > > return( AFP_OK ); > } -- J E F F W I E G L E Y W 3 - d e s i g n, I n c.

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From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 15 05:48:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id FAA18143; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 05:48:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id FAA18110; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 05:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA16342; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 05:45:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA16338 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 05:45:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jots1.ca.metsci.com (jots1.ca.metsci.com [199.106.147.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id EAA00874 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 04:41:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tomcat.ca.metsci.com by jots1.ca.metsci.com with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA03699; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 01:41:17 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 01:38:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Solmssen To: Netatalk List Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Routing question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Could you be more specific about how to do this - I'm having an interesting problem with atalkd. I have a small Appletalk net running phase 2 with a range of 10000-10000. The only router on the net is a Shiva Lanrover running in seed mode propagating the above net as "Metron ET" and keeping the dialup ports in a net numbered 10021 and called "Metron Dial-In". I'm running straight 1.4b2 netatalk on Red Hat 4.2 Linux. All was well until ... (drum roll, please) The linux box has an 3com 3c905 which was falling victim to a transmit timeout problem in the driver, causing all network communication to cease. I replaced the driver with the latest from Donald Becker's Vortex web page, and my transmit timeouts have stopped, but now when atalkd rewrites the conf file at load time, it writes something like eth0 -phase 2 -net 0-62580 -addr 62580.113 and the linux box can be seen in the chooser but not logged into. If I change the Lanrover to seed a range like 10000-10001, then atalkd seems to do the right thing. Questions: Is a phase 2 range of X-X valid? Or must it be X-Y where Y is greater than but not equal to X? Why would something like this only show up with the new 3c59x.c file - that seems lower level then netatalk would be fooling with... I guess I could just leave things with the 10000-10001 net range, but this affects my sense of network esthetics negatively. I guess I'm having a conceptual problem with phase 2 - does there need to be a one-to-one mapping between net numbers and zone names? If not, is there any disadvantage or advantage to a net that has a couple of numbers included? What is the advantage in general of zones that encompass more than one net number? On a more general note - I know that on a net with multiple zones I use the Network or Appletalk control panel to assign the Mac to a zone, but as an network manager, how do I enforce that selection? What's to keep my users from saying I don't want to be in the Work zone, I'd rather be in the Fun zone, and changing this themselves? Can I assign Macs to zones remotely? Thanks for any help and knowledge you can provide... ---- Andrew --------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Solmssen Network Manager solmssen@ca.metsci.com Metron, Inc. 619-792-8904 512 Via de la Valle, Ste. 301 619-792-2719 FAX Solana Beach, CA 92075 On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Patrik Schindler wrote: > >I am wondering if this make sense or i have to use another software to > >make zones. > > You'll have to use more than one Interface to make atalkd seed. Use the > dummy-interface for this. Please shorten your really too big footer. > > :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 15 06:39:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA20678; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 06:39:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA20674; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 06:39:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA18140; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:14:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA18108 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:13:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from amethea.nsi.edu (amethea.nsi.edu [198.133.185.9]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA17567 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:13:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sydney.nsi.edu (sydney.nsi.edu [198.133.185.70]) by amethea.nsi.edu (8.7.1/NSI-1.0) with SMTP id MAA08457 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:56:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian Fernald" To: "Netatalk" Subject: [netatalk-admins] solaris 2.6 compilation errors Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:56:07 -0700 Message-ID: <01bcd8db$360584a0$46b985c6@sydney.nsi.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am trying to compile under Solaris 2.6. I am using the latest version of gcc. I get the following error . Is this a problem under solaris 2.6? Does anyone have any suggestions of how to get around this? Making all for solaris... gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -D__svr4 __ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c aarp.c gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -D__svr4 __ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c ddp.c gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -D__svr4 __ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c ddptp_rdq.c gcc -D_KERNEL -mno-app-regs -munaligned-doubles -fpcc-struct-return -D__svr4 __ -DSOLARIS -O -I../../include -I../netatalk -c ddptp_utls.c ddptp_utls.c:49: conflicting types for `msgdsize' /usr/include/sys/stream.h:705: previous declaration of `msgdsize' ddptp_utls.c:52: conflicting types for `allocb' /usr/include/sys/stream.h:687: previous declaration of `allocb' *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `ddptp_utls.o' Current working directory /source/netatalk/netatalk-1.4b2/sys/solaris *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `all' Thanks, Brian Fernald Systems & Network Administrator The Neurosciences Institute Phone : 619-626-2000 Fax : 619-626-2099 Email : fernald@nsi.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 15 13:28:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA01452; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:28:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA01448; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:28:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA21928; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:27:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA21808 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA21557 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:27:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA30939; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:21:27 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA00609; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 10:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710151726.KAA00609@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: valerie@cs.umass.edu CC: peter@stairways.com.au, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from Valerie Caro on Tue, 14 Oct 1997 11:34:52 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: NetPresenz mounting CAP vs. netatalk (fwd) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu i'm pretty sure i know what's happening here as i encountered this with os8 and mounting an alias of a volume. what you're getting is a request to open a volume without an initial request for server params. 1.4b2 assumes that that just doesn't happen. my patches to 1.4b2 fix this, and i believe i informed wes of this when i noticed it. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 15 19:56:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA14144; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:56:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA13455; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:55:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA16415; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:55:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA16343 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:55:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA16290 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:55:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id PAA19135; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 15:17:02 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 15:17:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: Andrew Solmssen cc: Netatalk List Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Routing question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Andrew Solmssen wrote: > Questions: > > Is a phase 2 range of X-X valid? Or must it be X-Y where > Y is greater than but not equal to X? It is very valid. Almost all of the phase 2 nets at Stanford are X-X. > Why would something like this only show up with the new 3c59x.c file - > that seems lower level then netatalk would be fooling with... I'd bet it's something to do with the way the multicast addressing gets set up. > I guess I could just leave things with the 10000-10001 net range, but this > affects my sense of network esthetics negatively. I guess I'm having a > conceptual problem with phase 2 - does there need to be a one-to-one > mapping between net numbers and zone names? If not, is there any > disadvantage or advantage to a net that has a couple of numbers included? > What is the advantage in general of zones that encompass more than one net > number? I doubt covering 2 nets would matter much, though you're right; it lacks athetics. The advantage to a zone covering multiple nets is that computer users can logically assosciate themselves with their peers. We have computers on ether and LocalTalk (via a FastPath), and it's nice for everyone to be in the same zone. > On a more general note - I know that on a net with multiple zones I use > the Network or Appletalk control panel to assign the Mac to a zone, but > as an network manager, how do I enforce that selection? What's to keep my > users from saying I don't want to be in the Work zone, I'd rather be in > the Fun zone, and changing this themselves? Can I assign Macs to zones > remotely? You might be able to do something w/ AppleEvents, but does it matter? These users can only choose from zones you've made available. They can't add zones. Since they can get at servers in all zones, the only differances from being in another zone are that 1) other computers have to know where to find them (say for personal file sharing), and 2) they may have to manually switch zones more or less frequently in the chooser to find resources. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 15 21:09:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA22135; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 21:09:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id VAA21502; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 21:07:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id VAA21485; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 21:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id VAA21377; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 21:07:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199710160107.VAA21377@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Andrew Solmssen cc: Netatalk List Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Routing question In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 15 Oct 1997 01:38:34 PDT." Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 21:07:34 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Andrew Solmssen > To: Netatalk List > I replaced the driver with the latest from Donald Becker's Vortex web > page, and my transmit timeouts have stopped, but now when atalkd rewrites > the conf file at load time, it writes something like > > eth0 -phase 2 -net 0-62580 -addr 62580.113 > > and the linux box can be seen in the chooser but not logged into. You need to send the contents of your syslog messages. I'm not sure what the default config is on Linux, as I changed mine long ago. Both atalkd and afpd log to the DAEMON facility. I'm particularly interested in the startup messages that atalkd generates. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 15 22:07:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id WAA23693; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:07:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id WAA23421; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:07:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA14490; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:07:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA14468 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from umunhum.cagent.com (umunhum-e.cagent.com [209.19.76.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA14440 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 22:07:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cypher.cagent.com (cypher [209.19.76.216]) by umunhum.cagent.com (8.8.6/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA24305 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:03:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:01:58 -0700 From: Tom Watson Subject: [netatalk-admins] AARP not responding. To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu X-Mailer: LeeMail 2.1 Message-Id: Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >From the looks of it I've got a problem. Some machines in our shop don't appear to be responding to AARP requests. I have looked at the traffic with EtherPeek, and can see the Mac's outgoing requests, but no response. This has come and gone at times. I have some Mac's (usually running OT) that fail, some using "classic" that work, and some that don't. This could be related to the ARP cache in the mac, I don't know. Any other people have similar problems. I'm a bit new to NetAtalk, but do have some knowledge of appletalk in general, please bear with me. Thanks. ---- Tom Watson Generic short signature tsw@cagent.com (home: tsw@johana.com) From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 16 01:59:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id BAA18243; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 01:59:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id BAA17698; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 01:58:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA10130; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 01:58:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA08689 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:09:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA06888 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 14:05:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA03588; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:05:33 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 19:05:32 +0100 (BST) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Andrew Solmssen cc: Netatalk List Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Routing question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Andrew Solmssen wrote: [snip] > Is a phase 2 range of X-X valid? Or must it be X-Y where > Y is greater than but not equal to X? It is indeed valid. [snippage - sorry can't help] > On a more general note - I know that on a net with multiple zones I use > the Network or Appletalk control panel to assign the Mac to a zone, but > as an network manager, how do I enforce that selection? What's to keep my > users from saying I don't want to be in the Work zone, I'd rather be in > the Fun zone, and changing this themselves? Can I assign Macs to zones > remotely? Unfortunately there is no way to enforce this - the only thing you can do is put all the machines you want to appear in zone Foo in a separate physical network from the machines you want to appear in zone Bar and connect them with a router. The closest you can get is to set the zone in the Appletalk control panel and then lock it with a password. Most users are insufficiently clued to work out how to get round that. -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 16 02:18:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id CAA26488; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 02:18:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id CAA26131; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 02:17:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA10802; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 02:18:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA10788 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 02:18:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.shreve.net (am.shreve.net [208.206.76.23]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id CAA10755 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 02:18:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mercury.shreve.net (mercury.shreve.net [208.206.76.23]) by mercury.shreve.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA06019 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 01:20:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 01:20:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Kevin Heflin To: Netatalk List Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk trashing MacBinaries In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Currently running the latest version of Netatalk with AppleshareIP support. Trying to use it as a file server/backup for our Macintosh clients. For the most part works great, having a problem with some Mac files getting trashed however. Back up files to it, and at first they appear fine. Go back to retreive these files at a later date. And they are no longer recognized for the file types that they should be. And are unable to open them any longer. The first time I noticed this was with a Photoshop file. I had given the file a .PS extention. From what I could tell, the Mac thought it was a Postscript file. I started giving my photoshop files a .psh extension and added this extension to the AppleVolumes.system file. This seemed to help. What about mac binary files that don't have an extension.. is there any hope... Or do I just need to add more extensions to the AppleVolume.system file, and make sure all my Mac files have an appropriate extension? Help comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Kevin -------------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Heflin | ShreveNet, Inc. | Ph:318.222.2638 x103 VP/Mac Tech | 333 Texas St #619 | FAX:318.221.6612 kheflin@shreve.net | Shreveport, LA 71101 | http://www.shreve.net -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 16 03:01:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id DAA16367; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 03:01:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id DAA16101; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 03:00:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA01097; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 03:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA01082 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 03:00:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kiste.pingnet.de (router.pingnet.de [194.148.12.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id DAA01018 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 03:00:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kiste.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id JAA12709 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 09:00:18 +0200 Received: from [192.168.59.2] (powermac.poc.pingnet.de [192.168.59.2]) by leela.poc.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA07911 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 08:26:40 +0200 X-Sender: poc@leela.poc.pingnet.de (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 08:26:37 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Routing question Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, >I have a small Appletalk net running >phase 2 with a range of 10000-10000. Ah, you've already a seeding-router. >Is a phase 2 range of X-X valid? I think so. >I guess I could just leave things with the 10000-10001 net range, but this >affects my sense of network esthetics negatively.=20 Eh? Wha that? >I guess I'm having a >conceptual problem with phase 2 - does there need to be a one-to-one >mapping between net numbers and zone names? No. >If not, is there any >disadvantage or advantage to a net that has a couple of numbers included? Advantage: Every Mac gets its own address from the defined range, so you may= easily find out, who nbp-propagates serial numers, etc... Disadvantage: On a BIG campus, you may find that over 65000 Networkadresses= are still much too less to give every Mac it's own address. >What is the advantage in general of zones that encompass more than one net >number? Nothing. Zones are administrative (Like Domains with IP). One net(range) may= have multiple zone names, so every user may choose in which zone his mac= appears. Nets are related to infrastructure (routers, etc, like with IP),= so you may not say your Mac has to be in 1000. >On a more general note - I know that on a net with multiple zones I use >the Network or Appletalk control panel to assign the Mac to a zone, but >as an network manager, how do I enforce that selection? Dunno. >What's to keep my >users from saying I don't want to be in the Work zone, I'd rather be in >the Fun zone, and changing this themselves? Can I assign Macs to zones >remotely? Maybe with snmp? :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 16 04:14:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id EAA20566; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 04:14:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id EAA20314; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 04:13:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA15678; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 04:13:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA15675 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 04:13:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gate.illom.se (gate.illom.se [194.18.100.37]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA15670 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 04:13:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from illom.se (mac4.illom.se [194.18.101.245]) by gate.illom.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16001; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:13:38 +0200 Message-ID: <3445CCC9.22529003@illom.se> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:14:02 +0200 From: Magnus Stenman Reply-To: magnus@illom.se Organization: ILLOM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu CC: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk, aarong@wired.com, mark@coe.missouri.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: purging .AppleDouble files References: <24335.9710091840@sue> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Guys, maybe I´m unclear. The scripts do not simply remove *all* .AppleDouble files... (I don´t need 20 lines of Perl to do that) They remove .AppleDouble (res forks) files with no corresponding data fork! These files only occur if you move or delete [data fork] files with other programs than netatalk; f.ex: samba, bash etc... Happens all the time in a unix/samba/netatalk environment... John Barry -Technician wrote: > > Hi, > Perhaps my system is strange, but the resouce fork on my unix box are in the > .AppleDesktop directory.... > > Odd. > > later > jb ...snipped more comments of why it´s dumb to remove all of your .AppleDouble files /magnus From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 16 04:41:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id EAA01538; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 04:41:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id EAA01530; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 04:40:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA21478; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 04:40:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA21476 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 04:40:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de (dx4.pingnet.de [194.148.12.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA21472 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 04:40:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) id KAA07744; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:40:46 +0200 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:40:45 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler cc: Netatalk List Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk trashing MacBinaries In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, > The first time I noticed this was with a Photoshop file. I had given the > file a .PS extention. From what I could tell, the Mac thought it was a > Postscript file. I started giving my photoshop files a .psh extension and > added this extension to the AppleVolumes.system file. This seemed to help. > > What about mac binary files that don't have an extension.. is there any > hope... Or do I just need to add more extensions to the AppleVolume.system > file, and make sure all my Mac files have an appropriate extension? I don't think so, I do not have much extensions in my File. But I've disabled CRLF-Conversion in afpd's Makefile and all problems were gone forever. :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 16 04:42:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id EAA01659; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 04:42:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id EAA01642; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 04:42:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA29921; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 04:43:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA29918 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 04:43:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de (dx4.pingnet.de [194.148.12.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA29910 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 04:43:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) id KAA07760; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:42:45 +0200 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:42:45 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: purging .AppleDouble files In-Reply-To: <3445CCC9.22529003@illom.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Guys, maybe I´m unclear. > The scripts do not simply remove *all* .AppleDouble files... > (I don´t need 20 lines of Perl to do that) I'd really like to test that, but I cannot unpack the file (CRC Error). You should use apostrophes, not french accents. :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 16 05:37:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id FAA17586; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 05:37:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id FAA17577; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 05:36:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA05252; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 05:36:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA05248 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 05:36:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at (germ2.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id FAA05209 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 05:36:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from buster.retti.at (internet@pc1-c608.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.17]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.7/8.8.6 (l 2)) with ESMTP id LAA05613 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:36:40 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (m610.retti.at [192.168.0.13]) by buster.retti.at (8.8.3/8.8.3 (GR v 1.1)) with ESMTP id LAA27875 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:33:01 +0200 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:33:01 +0200 X-Sender: gregor@mail.retti.at Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Gregor Retti Subject: [netatalk-admins] rebuilding servers desktop Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu hi, is there any quick method to rebuild a afpd-servers desktop, i.e. rebuilding the .AppleDesktop directory? thanks gregor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ---------------- http://germ2.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 16 06:54:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA18864; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 06:54:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA18860; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 06:54:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA21085; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 06:54:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA21082 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 06:54:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.corpus.nl (www.corpus.nl [193.78.207.33]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id GAA21047 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 06:54:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from knmg0893 (asd1-p247.worldonline.nl [195.241.129.247]) by www.corpus.nl (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA24492 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 12:53:29 +0100 Message-ID: <34475184.3CF1@corpus.nl> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 12:52:36 +0100 From: tom rossmark Reply-To: tomros@corpus.nl X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] problem to login with more users Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, I have a applenetwork to use a omnis database program. I have installed netatalk 1.14b on red head, to use as a fileserver. When I login with 1 user it works OK. When I try to login with a second user in my datafile, I get "acces denied to omnis data". I tried with several users, passwords and so on. Can somebodey advise me? Thanks Tom Rossmark From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 16 08:01:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA20292; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 08:01:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA20280; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 08:01:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA10541; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 08:01:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA10534 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 08:01:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pingnet.de (dx4.pingnet.de [194.148.12.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA10523 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 08:01:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) id OAA09122; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:00:48 +0200 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:00:47 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler To: Gregor Retti cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] rebuilding servers desktop In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > is there any quick method to rebuild a afpd-servers desktop, i.e. > rebuilding the .AppleDesktop directory? Yes, it's named Rebuild and can be found at novell.com. But without aid of a netware server, you won't be able to unpack it. Perhaps you may find it on InfoMac. If you don't, write here and I'll upload it for anon-ftp. :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 16 09:08:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA22193; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 09:08:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA22188; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 09:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA16642; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 09:07:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA16582 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 09:07:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at (germ2.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA16080 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 09:07:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from buster.retti.at (internet@pc1-c608.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.17]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.7/8.8.6 (l 2)) with ESMTP id PAA08675; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:06:51 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (m610.retti.at [192.168.0.13]) by buster.retti.at (8.8.3/8.8.3 (GR v 1.1)) with ESMTP id PAA28078; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:06:55 +0200 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:06:55 +0200 X-Sender: gregor@mail.retti.at Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <34475184.3CF1@corpus.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tomros@corpus.nl From: Gregor Retti Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] problem to login with more users Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 12:52 Uhr +0100 17.10.1997, tom rossmark wrote: >Hello, I have a applenetwork to use a omnis database program. I have >installed netatalk 1.14b on red head, to use as a fileserver. When I >login with 1 user it works OK. When I try to login with a second user in >my datafile, I get "acces denied to omnis data". I tried with several >users, passwords and so on. Can somebodey advise me? Thanks Tom Rossmark this sounds to me as if your omnis db opens the file(s) of the database for the first user and wont let it (them) be opened a second time for a second user. as far as I understand your approach you want to make the database multiuser by simple filesharing - I doubt if that will work. greetings gregor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ---------------- http://germ2.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 16 10:29:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA26593; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:29:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA26580; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:29:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA16214; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:30:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA16168 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:30:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from himiko.brunel.ac.uk (himiko.brunel.ac.uk [134.83.108.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with SMTP id KAA16068 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:29:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Callum.Downie@brunel.ac.uk Received: from h2ws-03.brunel.ac.uk by himiko.brunel.ac.uk with SMTP-BRUNEL (PP); Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:28:51 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:28:50 +0100 Message-Id: <1658.199710161428@h2ws-03.brunel.ac.uk> To: tomros@corpus.nl Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] problem to login with more users Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > At 12:52 Uhr +0100 17.10.1997, tom rossmark wrote: > >Hello, I have a applenetwork to use a omnis database program. I have > >installed netatalk 1.14b on red head, to use as a fileserver. When I > >login with 1 user it works OK. When I try to login with a second user in > >my datafile, I get "acces denied to omnis data". I tried with several > >users, passwords and so on. Can somebodey advise me? Thanks Tom Rossmark > > this sounds to me as if your omnis db opens the file(s) of the database for > the first user and wont let it (them) be opened a second time for a second > user. as far as I understand your approach you want to make the database > multiuser by simple filesharing - I doubt if that will work. > > greetings > gregor We have an OMNIS database application running on our DOS/Windows PCs with NFS to Sun UNIX fileservers. To get it to work, we MUST mount the database network drive /ms (MUSTSHARE). We have yet to get our Mac user up and running through Netatalk 1.4b2 and when we have time will make use of our expensive support contract with OMNIS. We must also ensure the database is Read/Write enabled under UNIX for the whole group of users, even though they only want to read stuff. Callum From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 16 10:55:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA27542; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:55:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA27537; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:55:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA04786; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:55:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA04719 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:55:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at (germ2.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA03998 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 10:54:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from buster.retti.at (internet@pc1-c608.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.17]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.7/8.8.6 (l 2)) with ESMTP id QAA09998; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:54:01 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (m610.retti.at [192.168.0.13]) by buster.retti.at (8.8.3/8.8.3 (GR v 1.1)) with ESMTP id QAA28219; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:53:24 +0200 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:53:24 +0200 X-Sender: gregor@mail.retti.at Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: Patrik Schindler From: Gregor Retti Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] rebuilding servers desktop Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 14:00 Uhr +0200 16.10.1997, Patrik Schindler wrote: >> is there any quick method to rebuild a afpd-servers desktop, i.e. >> rebuilding the .AppleDesktop directory? > >Yes, it's named Rebuild and can be found at novell.com. But without aid >of a netware server, you won't be able to unpack it. >Perhaps you may find it on InfoMac. If you don't, write here and I'll >upload it for anon-ftp. > >:wq! PoC thanks a lot! I found the thing (Desktop Rebuilder) at Dayna=B4s: ftp://ftp.dayna.com/Utilities/DRebuild.sea.hqx at novell.com I found it too, but it is a bit cumbersome, to move a something, which could be a simple hqx-file from one OS to another to have the exe-file which was unpacked from another exe-file finally complain about a missing mac namespace ... (I am runnig the mars nw novell emulation on linux and it does not have such a thing ;-) thanks again gregor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ---------------- http://germ2.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 16 14:50:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA13734; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:50:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA13719; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:50:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA20221; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:50:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA19481 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:49:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.emeraldmail.com (emeraldmail.com [206.251.153.5]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA18737 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 14:48:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mightypc.emeraldmail.com (mightypc.emeraldmail.com [206.251.153.59]) by mail.emeraldmail.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id LAA26254 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:52:42 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19971016184552.0070a48c@emeraldmail.com> X-Sender: root@emeraldmail.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:45:52 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: James Chelin Subject: [netatalk-admins] ... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am running Netatalk 1.4b2 with FREEBSD 2.2.2, and everything works fine on some computers but on others it doesn't show up at all.. My EtherTalk zone is between 200 - 500. We have a Quadra 700 Macintosh File Server/Router on the network.. If I turn it off, all the macs can see the Netatalk machine no problem, if I have it on, only like 40% can see it.. ??? I cant figure it out... when I start atalkd I get this... atalkd[162]: route: 100 -> 200.108: No such process atalkd[162]: route: 100 -> 200.108: Network is unreachable When I run nbplkup it turns out that 200.108 is the Quadra 700 Server/Router.. also when I run nbplkup I can see Every Mac on the network, even the ones that cant see Netatalk... can someone help? thanks, James From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 16 15:05:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA16495; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA16426; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:05:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA29851; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA28444 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:03:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kiste.pingnet.de (router.pingnet.de [194.148.12.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA27608 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:02:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kiste.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id VAA15045 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 21:02:04 +0200 Received: from [192.168.59.2] (powermac.poc.pingnet.de [192.168.59.2]) by leela.poc.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA09926 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:59:14 +0200 X-Sender: poc@leela.poc.pingnet.de (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: from Patrik Schindler at "Oct 16, 97 02:00:47 pm" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:59:01 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] rebuilding servers desktop Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >I, for one, am unable to obtain the software. Would you be so kind >as to place it somewhere available to me? You could uuencode and email >it as well, if that is easier. Gregor Retti has found it at Dayna: ftp://ftp.dayna.com/Utilities/DRebuild.sea.hqx :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 16 15:06:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA16690; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:06:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA16593; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:06:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA24527; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:06:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA24478 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:06:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kiste.pingnet.de (router.pingnet.de [194.148.12.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA22556 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:03:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kiste.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id VAA15058 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 21:02:15 +0200 Received: from [192.168.59.2] (powermac.poc.pingnet.de [192.168.59.2]) by leela.poc.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA09907 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:47:36 +0200 X-Sender: poc@leela.poc.pingnet.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 18:47:21 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] rebuilding servers desktop Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >thanks a lot! I found the thing (Desktop Rebuilder) at Dayna=B4s: >ftp://ftp.dayna.com/Utilities/DRebuild.sea.hqx Okay, I forgot where to find it else. >at novell.com I found it too, but it is a bit cumbersome, to move a >something, which could be a simple hqx-file from one OS to another to have >the exe-file which was unpacked from another exe-file finally complain >about a missing mac namespace ... (I am runnig the mars nw novell emulation >on linux and it does not have such a thing ;-) I know. Who needs that with netatalk? ;-) :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 16 15:16:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA18471; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:16:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA18375; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:16:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA05302; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:16:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA04211 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:14:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thor.spiralmedia.com (thor.spiralmedia.com [207.142.211.75]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA03406 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:13:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ptacek@localhost) by thor.spiralmedia.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA03934; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:05:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:05:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Ptacek To: Patrik Schindler cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] rebuilding servers desktop In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Patrik Schindler wrote: > >I, for one, am unable to obtain the software. Would you be so kind > >as to place it somewhere available to me? You could uuencode and email > >it as well, if that is easier. > > Gregor Retti has found it at Dayna: > > ftp://ftp.dayna.com/Utilities/DRebuild.sea.hqx > > :wq! PoC > It's ftp://ftp.dayna.com/PUB/Utilities/DRebuild.sea.hqx -C From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 16 15:24:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA19748; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:24:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA19729; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:23:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA04509; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:24:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA04446 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:24:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA03650 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:22:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id MAA19345; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 12:22:38 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 12:22:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund Reply-To: Bill Studenmund To: James Chelin cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] ... In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19971016184552.0070a48c@emeraldmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, James Chelin wrote: > > I am running Netatalk 1.4b2 with FREEBSD 2.2.2, and everything works > fine on some computers but on others it doesn't show up at all.. My > EtherTalk zone is between 200 - 500. We have a Quadra 700 Macintosh File ^^^^^^^^^ Slight nit. Your Ethertalk zone is not from 200 to 500, your netrange is. Zones are seperate. You can have multiple zones on a phase 2 net (on a physical wire), and you can have the same zone name show up on multiple wires. Our building Ethernet has 7 zones, three of which also have attached LocalTalk areas. So each of those zones map to two netranges. Why do you have this setup? Do you really have 253*301 > 76,000 computers??? Make the net range from 200 to maybe 201. We have a building w/ about 150 macs, and it all fits in one net number (15107-15107). > Server/Router on the network.. If I turn it off, all the macs can see the > Netatalk machine no problem, if I have it on, only like 40% can see it.. ??? > I cant figure it out... when I start atalkd I get this... > > atalkd[162]: route: 100 -> 200.108: No such process > atalkd[162]: route: 100 -> 200.108: Network is unreachable > > When I run nbplkup it turns out that 200.108 is the Quadra 700 > Server/Router.. also when I run nbplkup I can see Every Mac on the network, > even the ones that cant see Netatalk... can someone help? It sounds like the server is acting like a router. Double check that, and make sure that it's idea of the network agrees with netatalk's. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 16 19:01:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA05534; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:01:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA05494; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA04416; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:01:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA04411 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:01:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA04353 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:01:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA02411; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd002409; Thu Oct 16 22:51:50 1997 Message-ID: <34469A35.6201DD56@whistle.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 15:50:29 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Chelin CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] ... References: <1.5.4.32.19971016184552.0070a48c@emeraldmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu James Chelin wrote: > > > I am running Netatalk 1.4b2 with FREEBSD 2.2.2, and everything works > fine on some computers but on others it doesn't show up at all.. My > EtherTalk zone is between 200 - 500. We have a Quadra 700 Macintosh File > Server/Router on the network.. If I turn it off, all the macs can see the > Netatalk machine no problem, if I have it on, only like 40% can see it.. ??? > I cant figure it out... when I start atalkd I get this... > > atalkd[162]: route: 100 -> 200.108: No such process > atalkd[162]: route: 100 -> 200.108: Network is unreachable > > When I run nbplkup it turns out that 200.108 is the Quadra 700 > Server/Router.. also when I run nbplkup I can see Every Mac on the network, > even the ones that cant see Netatalk... can someone help? > > thanks, > > James this bug was supposed to be fixed by a patch I added to freeBSD recently I've heard reports however thatit's broken something else. I hope to have checked this later today julian From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 16 20:09:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA12077; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:09:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id UAA12005; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:08:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA08653; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:08:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA08650 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:08:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kiste.pingnet.de (router.pingnet.de [194.148.12.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA08624 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:08:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kiste.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id CAA16095 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 02:08:46 +0200 Received: from [192.168.59.2] (powermac.poc.pingnet.de [192.168.59.2]) by leela.poc.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id AAA11332 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 00:19:00 +0200 X-Sender: poc@leela.poc.pingnet.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <1.5.4.32.19971016184552.0070a48c@emeraldmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 00:18:50 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Patrik Schindler Subject: [netatalk-admins] Why use small net ranges? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, Bill, >Why do you have this setup? Do you really have 253*301 > 76,000 >computers??? Why should he not do this? I've here a netrange from 13-20 and only 5 Ethertalk devices. If there's no good reason (internic, government, top level admin or similar) for using as less as possible numbers, why may not everyone use as much as (s)he wants? I think it's is only a cosmetic question and in almost all cases not responsible for malfunctions. :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 16 20:52:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA16870; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:52:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id UAA16866; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:52:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA21169; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA21163 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from titania.math.ukans.edu (titania.math.ukans.edu [129.237.128.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA21146 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:52:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from buller@localhost) by titania.math.ukans.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA16878; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:51:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:51:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Buller X-Sender: buller@titania To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Route error question... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm running 1.4b2 with the MacOS 8 and afpd diffs applied on Solaris 2.5.1. The machine is not acting as a router, the atalkd.conf is: le0 -phase 2 -net 301-310 -addr 301.124 -zone "Snow" -zone "Math" afpd runs in zone "Math", papd is not running. The problem is my logs are filling up with errors like: Oct 16 17:52:51 titania.math.ukans.edu atalkd[222]: route: 2093 -> 301.99: No such file or directory Oct 16 17:52:51 titania.math.ukans.edu atalkd[222]: route: 2094 -> 301.99: No such file or directory Oct 16 17:52:51 titania.math.ukans.edu atalkd[222]: route: 2095 -> 301.99: No such file or directory Here's what 301.99 is: (59) # /usr/local/atalk/bin/nbplkup | grep 301.99 csfrtr02.Ethernet1/3:ciscoRouter 301.99:254 csfrtr02:SNMP Agent 301.99:8 So why I am getting these messages on my console? I don't really care if it can't find a route to these networks, as I can talk to all the hosts in my zone. If there isn't a way to turn these messages off, how can I patch the source to log them at level LOCAL5 or some such so I can direct them out of the logs I monitor? BTW, I think netatalk is real slick; a pleasure to work with after fighting CAP for too long. TIA, Tim ==== Tim Buller buller@math.ukans.edu Systems Specialist Snow Hall 643, (785) 864-7311 Department of Mathematics University of Kansas, Lawrence, KS 66045 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 17 07:42:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA23296; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 07:42:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA23292; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 07:42:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA25582; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 07:42:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA25578 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 07:42:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotel.uws.EDU.AU (hotel.uws.EDU.AU [137.154.40.110]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA25573 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 07:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([137.154.40.233]) by hotel.uws.EDU.AU (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA09584 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 21:42:29 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 21:42:29 +1000 (EST) X-Sender: morrisg@hotel.uws.edu.au Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Glen Morris Subject: [netatalk-admins] Mounting AppleShare Volumes on a Linux box Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I often take my Linux laptop into work (a mostly Mac workplace) and connect it to the ethernet. I can share my laptop using Netatalk but wondered if I could do the reverse. Is it possibe to mount an AppleShare File Server on a Linux ext2 file system? Or at least easily send files *from* the Linux box to the file server (not using ftp please... too much typing). Glen _________________________________________________________ Glen Morris web@ausnet.com.au Director of Cool Toys Arachnoid Australia Net Services From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 17 09:35:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA25340; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:35:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA25333; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA24324; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:34:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA24236 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:34:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhost (tanya.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.16]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id JAA24173 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:34:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:33:04 +0100 (BST) From: Vivek Reply-To: Vivek To: Glen Morris cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Mounting AppleShare Volumes on a Linux box In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 17 Oct 1997, Glen Morris wrote: [snip] > > Is it possibe to mount an AppleShare File Server on a Linux ext2 file > system? Or at least easily send files *from* the Linux box to the file > server (not using ftp please... too much typing). > > Glen I believe there's a kernel module called for the hfs filesystem - you can compile it with an option which allows it to understand appleshared directories, although it then won't as I understand it, be able to mount 'real' hfs partitions, (Not a problem for you, I guess). Try: http://www-sccm.stanford.edu/Students/hargrove/HFS/index.html for more information. Vivek -- T:Come, Goratrix, we must return to the lab to prepare for tomorrow night. G:What are we going to do tomorrow night, Tremere? T:The same thing we do every night, Goratrix... From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 17 09:56:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA25999; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:56:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA25993; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:56:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id JAA24375; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:57:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id JAA24285 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:57:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (colossus.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.202]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA23947 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:56:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (jon@localhost) by colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA14304; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:57:53 +0200 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:57:53 +0200 (SAT) From: John Ostrowick To: Glen Morris cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Mounting AppleShare Volumes on a Linux box In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu afpfs. ftp://ftp.odyssey.co.il/~heksterb/afpfs ________________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick jon@cs.wits.ac.za Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand 1 Jan Smuts Ave, Johannesburg, South Africa. Senate House 1012 Phone: +27 11 716-3783 Fax: +27 11 339-3513 My web page: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/more/jon/aboutme.html My ftp site: ftp://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za My listserv: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/listservs.html On Fri, 17 Oct 1997, Glen Morris wrote: > Hi, > > I often take my Linux laptop into work (a mostly Mac workplace) and connect > it to the ethernet. I can share my laptop using Netatalk but wondered if I > could do the reverse. > > Is it possibe to mount an AppleShare File Server on a Linux ext2 file > system? Or at least easily send files *from* the Linux box to the file > server (not using ftp please... too much typing). > > Glen > > _________________________________________________________ > Glen Morris web@ausnet.com.au > Director of Cool Toys > Arachnoid Australia Net Services > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 17 09:59:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA26236; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:59:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA26232; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:59:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA09512; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:59:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA09502 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:59:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhost (tanya.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.16]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id JAA09389 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:59:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:57:55 +0100 (BST) From: Vivek Reply-To: Vivek To: Ashok Aiyar cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Mounting AppleShare Volumes on a Linux box In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > I'm afraid your understanding is incorrect. Paul Hargrove's HFS module > will allow Linux to mount locally attached HFS formatted disks. It is > not an AppleShare client, i.e. you cannot mount "appleshared" drives > over a network. Yeah - you're right - my memory degrades with the passing of time - must be incipient senility - I did find this in the FAQ though: The HFS filesystem is for mounting local filesystems only. There is an experimental afpfs by Ben Hekster heksterb@acm.org available from http://www.odyssey.co.il/~heksterb/Software/afpfs/. So maybe that was what I was thinking of. Vivek From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 17 11:07:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA28502; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 11:07:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA28498; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 11:07:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id LAA11362; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 11:07:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id LAA11352 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 11:07:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hp1.uib.es (hp1.uib.es [130.206.33.9]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id LAA11265 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 11:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199710171507.LAA11265@twins.rs.itd.umich.edu> Received: by hp1.uib.es (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA28729; Fri, 17 Oct 97 17:07:17 +0200 From: Julyan Cartwright Subject: [netatalk-admins] Printing from Unix to Mac with Solaris Netatalk To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Fri, 17 Oct 97 17:07:17 METDST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I want to use Netatalk running under Solaris 2.6 to act as a print server for Unix boxes - to allow Unix people to print on Mac printers. Can I do this with the current 1.4b release? I have Netatalk up and running on the Sun, but I can't find any information on how to handle the printing - all the documentation I've found refers to /etc/printcap for the Linux version. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, Julyan -- Julyan Cartwright Email julyan@hp1.uib.es Computer Centre WWW http://formentor.uib.es/~julyan/ University of the Balearic Islands Tel (+34 71) 172893 07071 Palma de Mallorca, Spain Fax (+34 71) 173426 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 17 11:51:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA03807; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 11:51:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA03799; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 11:51:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id LAA11065; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 11:51:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id LAA10545 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 11:50:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from titania.math.ukans.edu (titania.math.ukans.edu [129.237.128.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA09441 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 11:48:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from buller@localhost) by titania.math.ukans.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA21530; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 10:46:00 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 10:45:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Buller X-Sender: buller@titania Reply-To: Tim Buller To: Julyan Cartwright cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Printing from Unix to Mac with Solaris Netatalk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Julian wrote: > I want to use Netatalk running under Solaris 2.6 to act as a print > server for Unix boxes - to allow Unix people to print on Mac printers. > Can I do this with the current 1.4b release? I have Netatalk up and > running on the Sun, but I can't find any information on how to handle > the printing - all the documentation I've found refers to /etc/printcap > for the Linux version. Any help would be appreciated! Julian- I append a message that dealt with this topic a few weeks ago. Note that I have not implemented this, but it looks like it should work... Tim ==== Tim Buller buller@math.ukans.edu Systems Specialist Snow Hall 643, (785) 864-7311 Department of Mathematics University of Kansas, Lawrence, KS 66045 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 08:52:09 -0500 From: Tim Rand To: Tim Buller Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] A different problem >I've also been trying to install 1.4b2 on a Solaris 2.5.1 machine with the >4.3 BSD lpr stack compiled from source (put together by Doug Hughes). > Tim, I am using Solaris 2.5.1 and printing through the "pipe" support in the print queuing. My papd.conf file contains: >QMS 2000 Spool:\ > :pr=|/usr/bin/lp:op=operator:pd=/usr/share/lib/ppd/QMS2000.PPD: This seems to work just fine and should work for you. Try it. Note the PIPE character "|" is the first character in the pr= string. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 17 15:13:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA12049; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA12044; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA20805; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA20773 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:00:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kiste.pingnet.de (router.pingnet.de [194.148.12.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA20748 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:00:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kiste.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id VAA19765 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 21:00:38 +0200 Received: from localhost (poc@localhost) by leela.poc.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA15010 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:30:15 +0200 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:30:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Patrik Schindler cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Mounting AppleShare Volumes on a Linux box In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 17 Oct 1997, John Ostrowick wrote: > afpfs. ftp://ftp.odyssey.co.il/~heksterb/afpfs This won't work. There is no User with this name, without ~ and with http, it won't work, too. :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 17 15:16:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA10881; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:48:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.144.15]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA10789; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:47:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA29631 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 13:47:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id NAA22962; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 13:47:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id NAA22950 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 13:47:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhub.iastate.edu (mailhub.iastate.edu [129.186.1.102]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA22928 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 13:47:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns-3 (pseudo.cc.iastate.edu [129.186.142.93]) by mailhub.iastate.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA05539 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 12:47:09 -0500 (CDT) From: "Kent Vander Velden" To: Subject: [netatalk-admins] Mailing list commands Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 12:47:03 -0500 Message-ID: <01bcdb24$ad6738e0$0101010a@ns-3.iastate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Pardon the off topic question but what are the commands associated with this list? For instance, how does one: 1) add themselves 2) remove themselves Thanks. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 17 15:17:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA11489; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:49:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.144.15]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA11210; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:49:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA21942 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 12:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA15332; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 12:51:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA15223 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 12:51:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA15210 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 12:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id JAA29506; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:50:26 -0700 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:50:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Studenmund To: Patrik Schindler cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Why use small net ranges? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 17 Oct 1997, Patrik Schindler wrote: > Hi, Bill, > > >Why do you have this setup? Do you really have 253*301 > 76,000 > >computers??? > > Why should he not do this? I've here a netrange from 13-20 and only 5 Ethertalk devices. If there's no good reason (internic, government, top level admin or similar) for using as less as possible numbers, why may not everyone use as much as (s)he wants? > I think it's is only a cosmetic question and in almost all cases not responsible for malfunctions. I'm sorry. I meant to look up the multicast stuff last night, but forgot. The main reason for keeping your net small is for kernel efficiency. There's more overhead w/ more nets. Specifically the routing needs go up. Also, I'm not sure if the multicasting needs go up (it's been a while since I looked at that part of the code). We've been at this thread so long, I've forgotten if this is Linux or BSD. I know that the *BSD kernels use a tree, keyed on bits in the desired node, to keep track of the routes. So for a range of 200-500, you'd have the following routes: 200->207 8 nets 208->223 16 224->255 32 256->383 128 384->447 64 448->479 32 480->495 16 496->499 4 500->500 1 I don't see how that's nicer, if you don't have the computers to need the space. I'm not sure how Linux does it, but I've seen mention of "too many routes" errors in Linux faq's, so I gather it's better to go sparingly with the routes. You're right that it will work with this large range, but I think the general operation of things will be a little less efficient. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 17 15:56:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA19738; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA19734; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:56:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA07455; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA07440 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:56:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jots1.ca.metsci.com (jots1.ca.metsci.com [199.106.147.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id PAA07396 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 15:56:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tomcat.ca.metsci.com by jots1.ca.metsci.com with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA15912; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 12:55:59 -0700 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 12:53:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Solmssen To: Netatalk List Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Mounting AppleShare Volumes on a Linux box In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Patrik - this url from a different message worked fine: http://www.odyssey.co.il/~heksterb/Software/afpfs/ ---- Andrew On Fri, 17 Oct 1997, Patrik Schindler wrote: > On Fri, 17 Oct 1997, John Ostrowick wrote: > > > afpfs. ftp://ftp.odyssey.co.il/~heksterb/afpfs > > This won't work. There is no User with this name, without ~ and with > http, it won't work, too. > > :wq! PoC > > From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 17 17:11:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA24222; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:11:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA24213; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:10:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA24657; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:11:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA24637 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:11:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from library.ucsf.edu (apollo.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA24605 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:11:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (windy.ckm.ucsf.edu [128.218.33.85]) by library.ucsf.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA01532 for <@athena:netatalk-admins@umich.edu>; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (han@localhost) by windy.ckm.ucsf.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id OAA07181 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:15:37 -0700 Message-Id: <199710172115.OAA07181@windy.ckm.ucsf.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] AFP 2.2 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:15:37 -0700 From: Michael M Han Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I've never used netatalk, but since list seems to carry the development-related traffic, I thought this might be a good place to ask my question. I'm interested in running an afpd which only talks to TCP/IP via standard inetd. Basically, I'd just as soon not deal with the hassle of AppleTalk if possible, but given netatalk's implementation I'm not sure it's possible to do something of this sort. I've also sent out feelers about CAP which is also now supporting AFP 2.2. Is anyone aware of a way to do this? Even running some bizarre form of netatalk (i.e. with certain portions disabled or not compiled) would be fine. I've even contemplated writing something from scratch, but I think that's far beyond the scope of what I can do, especially after getting my hands at long last on the AFP specification. Also, I'm not a C/C++ programmer and would probably try to implement in python or perl. Anyway, if anyone knows of a way to do what I'm looking to do, please let me know. Or if anyone thinks my idea's interesting, I'd be gratified to know I'm not a total oddball. Thanks for whatever guidance anyone can provide. _____ Michael Han (han@library.ucsf.edu) voice: (415) 502-7542 Interactive Learning Center Consultant (415) 476-4309 San Francisco, California 94143-0840 fax: (415) 476-4653 "The lunatic, the lover and the poet Are of imagination all compact:-" A Midsummer Night's Dream, V i From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 17 17:45:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA27880; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:45:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA27863; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:44:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA27852; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:44:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA27835 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:44:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.emeraldmail.com (emeraldmail.com [206.251.153.5]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA27816 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:44:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mightypc.emeraldmail.com (mightypc.emeraldmail.com [206.251.153.59]) by mail.emeraldmail.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id OAA32461 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:49:40 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19971017214241.006f6128@emeraldmail.com> X-Sender: root@emeraldmail.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:42:41 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: James Chelin Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problem! Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Anyone know what this means? afp[2383]: atp_sreq to (16) 52481.51:244 also, sharing more than 2 gigs.. I am trying to share a 6 gig drive, and it the macs say there was only 989.9mb free... I was able to copy up to 2 gigs, then after that it was almost at 0mb free, and it changed to say 1.2gigs free... Wierd, even though there was still more than 4 gigs actually free on the drive.. I thought the maximum a mac could see shared was 2gigs, and no more.. Does anyone know of any possible problems sharing with huge amounts of space? thanks, James From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 17 18:44:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA01578; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:44:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA01570; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:43:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA25009; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA24998 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:43:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhub.iastate.edu (mailhub.iastate.edu [129.186.1.102]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA24983 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:43:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [129.186.242.1] (hillson.ag.iastate.edu [129.186.242.1]) by mailhub.iastate.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12985 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:43:49 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: hillson@pop-3.iastate.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 17:44:43 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Tom Hillson Subject: [netatalk-admins] neatalk under AIX Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Has anyone gotten netatalk working under AIX 4.1? I have two Network Server 500's I got on a close out special deal and they are great Unix boxes, but I would love to run netatalk on them like I do on my Linux boxes. I just want to know if anyone has gotten it to work and if so what modifications did you have to make. I have tried to get it to work and I have not gotten very far. -- Tom /---------------------------------------------------------\ | Tom Hillson | Computer Services Manager | | hillson@iastate.edu | College of Agriculture | | http://www.ag.iastate.edu | Iowa State University | | (515) 294-1543 phone | B2 Curtiss Hall | | (515) 294-1349 fax | Ames, IA 50011 | >---------------------------------------------------------< |"The only thing I have too much of is too little time" | \---------------------------------------------------------/ From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Oct 18 07:49:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA21125; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 07:49:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA21121; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 07:49:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA17196; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 07:49:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA17182 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 07:49:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netit.be ([194.7.86.222]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA17176 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 07:49:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netit.be ([194.7.74.19]) by netit.be (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14870 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:45:26 +0200 Message-ID: <3448A2B4.5505E828@netit.be> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:51:17 +0200 From: chris thoen Organization: Net It Be X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.0 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] npd_rgstr : Connection timed out : HELP! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have a linux-system 2.0.0 with netatalk 1.3.3 . Everything worked fine. Because some of our users wanted to use Mac OS 8, I installed netatalk 1.4.b2 and a patch : afpd-macos8.diff. When I reboot the system : I get the following message : atalkd nbp_rgstr:Connection timed out Can't register stoffel-pc:Workstation@* nbprgstr: Connection timeout when I reinstalled the former 1.3.3 version, I get the same error. This seems to me it is some configuration which is wrong, instead of the newly installed version. The name of the system is stoffel-pc the atalkd.conf is very easy : etho -phase 2 I did the same thing on my own system, and had no problems. What can this be? I'm facing a big problem now, because the system is a fileserver for our Mac-users. Can somebody explain me what is going on? -- Chris THOEN Systeembeheerder Net It Be Posthoflei 3 2600 BERCHEM tel : 03/286.04.34 fax : 03/286.04.70 email : christ@netit.be url : www.netit.be From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Oct 18 09:18:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA22160; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:18:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id JAA22151; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:18:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id JAA22149; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:18:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id JAA22142; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:18:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199710181318.JAA22142@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: chris thoen cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] npd_rgstr : Connection timed out : HELP! In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:51:17 +0200." <3448A2B4.5505E828@netit.be> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:18:15 -0400 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu What does atalkd send to syslogd? What's in atalkd.conf after reboot? If you "kill -USR1" atalkd, what's in /tmp/atalkd.debug? :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Oct 18 09:46:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA24262; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:46:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA24256; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA03631; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:46:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA03629 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netit.be ([194.7.86.222]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA03624 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:45:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netit.be ([194.7.74.19]) by netit.be (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA15353 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 15:42:09 +0200 Message-ID: <3448BE0E.9115C3DD@netit.be> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 15:47:58 +0200 From: chris thoen Organization: Net It Be X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.0 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [Fwd: [netatalk-admins] npd_rgstr : Connection timed out : HELP!] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------C98F86D578674F33EFDF5238" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C98F86D578674F33EFDF5238 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Chris THOEN Systeembeheerder Net It Be Posthoflei 3 2600 BERCHEM tel : 03/286.04.34 fax : 03/286.04.70 email : christ@netit.be url : www.netit.be --------------C98F86D578674F33EFDF5238 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <3448BA8D.8CE7AE44@netit.be> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 15:33:02 +0200 From: chris thoen Organization: Net It Be X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.0 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wesley.craig@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] npd_rgstr : Connection timed out : HELP! References: <199710181318.JAA22142@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wesley, first , thanks for trying to help. I'm in deep shit here (sorry for the expression). In the syslogd : Oct 18 15:06:06 stoffel-pc papd[148]: can't register stoffel-pc:LaserWriter@* Oct 18 15:06:07 stoffel-pc afpd[150]: Can't register stoffel-pc:AFPServer@* in the atalkd.conf : eth0 -phase 2 After the command kill -USR1 atalkd : interface lo 0.0 2AC 0-0 xi interface eth0 56.141 2ACL 50-59 zxi 'netitbe' gate 58.16 1 50-59 x gate 50.22 2 50-59 x 10-19 zxi 'server' 20-29 zxi 'belegger' 30-39 zxi 'edp' 80-89 zxi 'tes' 110-119 zxi 'eindred' 120-129 zxi 'redactie' 130-139 zxi 'prepress' 140-140 zxi 'framerelay' 150-150 zxi 'ISDN' 160-169 zxi 'brussel' 910-919 zxi 'admin' wesley.craig@umich.edu wrote: > What does atalkd send to syslogd? What's in atalkd.conf after reboot? > If you "kill -USR1" atalkd, what's in /tmp/atalkd.debug? > > :wes -- Chris THOEN Systeembeheerder Net It Be Posthoflei 3 2600 BERCHEM tel : 03/286.04.34 fax : 03/286.04.70 email : christ@netit.be url : www.netit.be --------------C98F86D578674F33EFDF5238-- From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Oct 19 16:07:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA06244; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:07:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA06239; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:07:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA06237; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:07:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA06231 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:07:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thor.saqnet.co.uk ([194.88.88.74] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA06208 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:07:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [163.164.164.52] by thor.saqnet.co.uk (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-12184) with SMTP id AAA438; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 21:07:39 +0100 X-Sender: john@mail.scl.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 21:06:40 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: john@scl.co.uk (John Sutton) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AFP 2.2 Cc: Michael M Han Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Michael I've had no problem running afpd (netatalk 1.4b2+asun0.16 thereabouts) _without_ atalkd (the Appletalk stuff) running. It moans a bit when it first comes up but otherwise runs fine. Compiles and runs out of the box on my Linux 2.0.27 kernel - I don't run shadow passwords which seems to account for 90% of the grief which people get! >Hi, I've never used netatalk, but since list seems to carry the >development-related traffic, I thought this might be a good place to >ask my question. I'm interested in running an afpd which only talks to >TCP/IP via standard inetd. Basically, I'd just as soon not deal with >the hassle of AppleTalk if possible, but given netatalk's >implementation I'm not sure it's possible to do something of this >sort. I've also sent out feelers about CAP which is also now >supporting AFP 2.2. > >Is anyone aware of a way to do this? Even running some bizarre form of >netatalk (i.e. with certain portions disabled or not compiled) would >be fine. I've even contemplated writing something from scratch, but I >think that's far beyond the scope of what I can do, especially after >getting my hands at long last on the AFP specification. Also, I'm not >a C/C++ programmer and would probably try to implement in python or >perl. > >Anyway, if anyone knows of a way to do what I'm looking to do, please >let me know. Or if anyone thinks my idea's interesting, I'd be >gratified to know I'm not a total oddball. Thanks for whatever >guidance anyone can provide. >_____ >Michael Han (han@library.ucsf.edu) voice: (415) 502-7542 >Interactive Learning Center Consultant (415) 476-4309 >San Francisco, California 94143-0840 fax: (415) 476-4653 >"The lunatic, the lover and the poet >Are of imagination all compact:-" A Midsummer Night's Dream, V i *********************** John Sutton SCL Computer Services http://www.scl.co.uk Tel +44 (0) 1239 621021 *********************** From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Oct 20 11:23:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA25526; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:23:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA25511; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:23:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA19656; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:23:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA19605 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:23:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from titania.math.ukans.edu (titania.math.ukans.edu [129.237.128.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA19543; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from buller@localhost) by titania.math.ukans.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA16312; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:22:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 10:22:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Buller X-Sender: buller@titania To: evan.cordes@umich.edu cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Route error question... In-Reply-To: <199710170112.VAA19002@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 16 Oct 1997 evan.cordes@umich.edu wrote: > The solaris kernel module has been rewritten, eliminating the very route > problems you are experiencing. It is not yet released in beta-testing > (though, it will be soon, w/ 1.4b3). If you'd like to try it out, we've > got snapshots of current development work available. We're expecially > interested in getting feedback from people trying this code out. These > snap-shots are, by design, notnecessarily fully functional. In any > case, the current snap-shot is I installed 971013 this morning (Solaris 2.5.1, SS20, gcc 2.7.2.3, added -DSHADOWPW to sys/solaris/Makefile), seems to be working fine. No routing error messages on the console so far, printing to an AppleTalk connected printer works good via the interface script lp2pap.sh One thing different in the docs (INSTALL/README.SOLARIS) on my system: 45 This creates the directory /etc/lp/bob, in which you should create 46 a file called ".paprc" containing the NBP name of the printer. See 47 the "pap" man page for more information. The directory for bob would be in /etc/lp/printers/bob. Thanks for your work; netatalk is a very fine package... Tim ==== Tim Buller buller@math.ukans.edu Systems Specialist Snow Hall 643, (785) 864-7311 Department of Mathematics University of Kansas, Lawrence, KS 66045 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 21 12:10:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA21903; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:10:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA21899; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:10:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA20239; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:10:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA20219 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:10:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA20172 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:10:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02166 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:00:01 -0700 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA10084; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710211609.JAA10084@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] a17 patchset available Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu i've made a17 available at ftp.u.washington.edu:/public/asun. here's the relevant urls: as noted before, please read README.ASUN as a number of significant changes have been made that alter how you compile it. specifically, many of the options have been moved to the global Makefile. features/fixes: 1) randnum/2-way randnum support (parts courtesy of shirsch@ibm.net). if you're interested in this, please pay attention to the relevant bits in README.ASUN. 2) prodos support (from shirsch@ibm.net) 3) denial-of-service attack fix w.r.t. some login conditions. 4) cleanup of atalkd, afpd, and papd to restrict exits to a single file. 5) afp/ddp fix that was causing afpd to die. 6) ability to bind to a specific ip address via -address x.x.x.x in afpd.conf 7) large volume support fix 8) you can use your "real name" as specified in your passwd entry. if you don't want this feature, use -DNO_REAL_USER_NAME. 9) it should compile under solaris 2.6 now. however, i might be missing a library. let me know. 10) there's a afp/dsi protocol ambiguity. i've fixed the code to conform to what the client really does. for those interested, it hinges upon the determination of what the code field in the dsi write header means when it's 0. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 21 13:14:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA24279; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:14:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA24275; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:14:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA08018; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:14:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA07938 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:14:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from step.polymtl.ca (step.polymtl.ca [132.207.4.32]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA07738 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:14:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (pfeif@localhost) by step.polymtl.ca (8.8.6/8.6.10) with SMTP id NAA05055; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:10:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:10:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Marc Heckmann To: Alistair Riddell cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems using CD's through netatalk.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Alistair Riddell wrote: > What mount options are you using for the afpd fs module? IIRR the wrong > options can cause behaviour like this. Hi , I know it's been a while since I posted this question. I'm using "mount /dev/scd1 -t hfs -o ro -o afpd /cd1". Is that Ok? Thanks. MArc > > On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Marc Heckmann wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm running a cdrom-tower on a RedHat Linux system. Mac clients > > can access it via netatalk (combined with the hfs kernel module for hfs > > CD's). The Mac's can read the CD's fine, but when I try to run an > > application off the CD such as an install script, the Mac client return's > > an error which state's that there is not enough memory to run the > > application, when this is completly false and the application runs fine > > when the CD is in the local CDrom drive. The problem is on all the Mac's > > in my environment (system 7.5.3 - 8.0). Because of this, netatalk is > > useless to me right now. Does anyone have any ideas? > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > -- > Alistair Riddell - BOFH > IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh > Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 21 16:59:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA02899; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 16:59:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA02887; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 16:59:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA19991; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:46:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA19120 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:44:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from safir.spray.fi (safir.spray.fi [195.10.150.130]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id LAA17783 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:43:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23685 invoked by uid 500); 21 Oct 1997 15:43:35 -0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] afpd crashes From: Osma Ahvenlampi Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.95) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 21 Oct 1997 18:43:35 +0300 Message-ID: Lines: 9 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In the netatalk-admins archive, I found a reference to a problem I'm experiencing. Namely, in last July there was some discussion about afpd hanging when the user gives an incorrect password on a Debian Linux system. I see the same on Red Hat Linux, kernel versions tested 2.0.28 through 2.0.31, netatalk 1.4b2. Has anyone managed to solve this issue? -- Osma Ahvenlampi From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 21 19:17:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA11169; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:17:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA11162; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:17:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id TAA25337; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:17:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id TAA25334 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:17:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from step.polymtl.ca (step.polymtl.ca [132.207.4.32]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA25329 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (pfeif@localhost) by step.polymtl.ca (8.8.6/8.6.10) with SMTP id TAA03295; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:13:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:13:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Marc Heckmann To: Alistair Riddell cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Problems using CD's through netatalk.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, What's the advantage of the Asun patch?? (excuse my ignorance) Other then that I noticed that the CD was mounted "noexec" (I did not set that in my options, it's strange) do you think that would cause such behaviour with afpd. I haven't had time to test it yet. Thanks. Marc On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Marc Heckmann wrote: > On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Alistair Riddell wrote: > > > What mount options are you using for the afpd fs module? IIRR the wrong > > options can cause behaviour like this. > > Hi , > > I know it's been a while since I posted this question. I'm using > "mount /dev/scd1 -t hfs -o ro -o afpd /cd1". Is that Ok? Thanks. > > MArc > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 21 19:31:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA12384; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:31:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA12378; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:31:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA14520; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:31:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA14500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:31:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kauri.vuw.ac.nz (kauri.vuw.ac.nz [130.195.2.248]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA14467 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:31:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew.Greer@vuw.ac.nz Received: from kauri.vuw.ac.nz (andrew@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kauri.vuw.ac.nz (8.8.6/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA14135 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:30:58 +1300 (NZD) Message-Id: <199710212330.MAA14135@kauri.vuw.ac.nz> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:30:54 +1300 (NZD) Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk for Digital Unix (DEC OSF/1) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is anyone doing or looking at a port of Netatalk to Digital UNIX? TIA Andrew Greer -- Andrew Greer -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Information Systems | Domain: Andrew.Greer AT vuw.ac.nz Victoria University | Phone: +64 4 495-5048 P.O. Box 600 | Fax: +64 4 471-5386 Wellington, New Zealand | From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 22 04:53:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id EAA25094; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 04:53:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id EAA25090; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 04:53:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id EAA03570; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 04:54:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id EAA03567 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 04:54:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id EAA03560 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 04:54:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24093; Wed, 22 Oct 97 09:53:45 BST Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:52:30 +0100 From: John Barry -Technician Received: from pat (pat.tees) by scorch; Wed, 22 Oct 97 09:55:04 BST Date: Wed, 22 Oct 97 09:54:40 BST Message-Id: <21247.9710220854@pat> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk for Digital Unix (DEC OSF/1) Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > Is anyone doing or looking at a port of Netatalk to Digital UNIX? > I hope so, I've got an Alpha at home running 3.4c, it'd be real usefull later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 22 07:30:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA28288; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 07:30:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA28284; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 07:30:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA09932; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 07:30:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA09922 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 07:30:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from on.on-luebeck.de (on.on-luebeck.de [194.25.93.130]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA09913 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 07:30:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by on.on-luebeck.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id NAA23732; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 13:20:16 +0200 Received: from on-luebeck.de (gal.ton.on-luebeck.de [192.168.42.2]) by hertz.ton.on-luebeck.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA32625; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 13:19:05 +0200 Message-ID: <344DEF24.BE41FB5D@on-luebeck.de> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 13:18:44 +0100 From: Erik X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Osma Ahvenlampi CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] afpd crashes References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Osma Ahvenlampi wrote: > In the netatalk-admins archive, I found a reference to a problem I'm > experiencing. Namely, in last July there was some discussion about > afpd hanging when the user gives an incorrect password on a Debian > Linux system. I see the same on Red Hat Linux, kernel versions tested > 2.0.28 through 2.0.31, netatalk 1.4b2. Has anyone managed to solve > this issue? I had the same problem on Redhat 4.1 with netatalk 1.3.3-7, Redhat 4.2 with netatalk 1.4b2-1 and Debian 1.3.1 with netatalk 1.4b2. Try netatalk-1_4b2+asun2_0a17_tar.gz ! This version has no problems with incorrect passwords and it works even faster killing the afpd daemon. Bye, Erik From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 22 11:29:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA06996; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:29:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA06992; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:29:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id LAA02637; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:30:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id LAA02607 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:30:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from safir.spray.fi (safir.spray.fi [195.10.150.130]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id LAA02560 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:29:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1299 invoked by uid 500); 22 Oct 1997 15:29:21 -0000 To: Erik Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] afpd crashes References: <344DEF24.BE41FB5D@on-luebeck.de> From: Osma Ahvenlampi Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.95) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 22 Oct 1997 18:29:20 +0300 In-Reply-To: Erik's message of Wed, 22 Oct 1997 13:18:44 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 19 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Erik writes: > Osma Ahvenlampi wrote: > > afpd hanging when the user gives an incorrect password on a Debian > > Linux system. I see the same on Red Hat Linux, kernel versions tested > I had the same problem on Redhat 4.1 with netatalk 1.3.3-7, > Redhat 4.2 with netatalk 1.4b2-1 and Debian 1.3.1 with netatalk 1.4b2. Currently, I'm suspecting the modifications made to the authentication code to support PAM. Haven't verified this yet, though. > Try netatalk-1_4b2+asun2_0a17_tar.gz ! > This version has no problems with incorrect passwords and it works even > faster killing the afpd daemon. What is asun2_0a17 and where can I find it? -- Religions revolve madly around sexual questions. Osma Ahvenlampi From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 22 12:28:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA09702; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:28:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA09688; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA21347; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:28:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA21337 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:28:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from coe.missouri.edu (tiger.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA21326 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:28:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tiger.coe.missouri.edu (tiger.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.20]) by coe.missouri.edu (8.8.7/8.8.3) with SMTP id LAA15646; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:28:17 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:28:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Donnelly To: Osma Ahvenlampi cc: Erik , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] afpd crashes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On 22 Oct 1997, Osma Ahvenlampi wrote: > Currently, I'm suspecting the modifications made to the authentication > code to support PAM. Haven't verified this yet, though. That would make sense, since the patchset mentioned below includes PAM suppourt. > > Try netatalk-1_4b2+asun2_0a17_tar.gz ! > > This version has no problems with incorrect passwords and it works even > > faster killing the afpd daemon. Hmm...silly me, I thought it wouldn't work at all after killing the afpd daemon :-P > > What is asun2_0a17 and where can I find it? > The asun source tree is (as I'm given to understand) based off the 1.4b2 source tree. What happened is that this really nice man named Adrian Sun decided to take it upon himself to add the AppleshareIP into the source tree, since he didn't see anyone else doing it. (there actually are a couple of people doing it, but he's the most visible and active) This would be his 17th patchset on whatever code base he started out with. As he posted a few days ago, the files can be found at: Be warned: The people who actually maintain the netatalk source trees (Wesley Craig(?) out of the the University of Michigan) say that his changes likely won't be wholly adopted, if for no other reason than that Washington University's legal copyright isn't compatible with the University of Michigan's. However, that being said, asun's stuff does work _very_ well, and it has solved a couple of problems that have cropped up (like MacOS8 suddenly checking for more info in the finder, which caused unceasing updates. This might be corrected in base 1.4b2, but it wasn't last I checked.) If you're going to use his stuff, BE SURE to read the apropriate readmes (like README.ASUN!) and alter the sys/linux/Makefile (or wherever that is) to match your system. Specifically, most people's source of problems comes from not taking quota support out of the Makefile! Have fun! --Mark "I think so Brain, but if they called them sad meals, then nobody would buy them." --Pinky From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 22 15:41:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA18704; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:41:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jeter.acpub.duke.edu (jeter.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.10]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA18677; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:41:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kea.zoo.duke.edu (kea.zoo.duke.edu [152.3.13.91]) by jeter.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.5.3) with SMTP id PAA23836; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:29:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Randall Downer Reply-To: Randall Downer To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] No such file or directory Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:29:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: Simeon for Solaris Motif Version 4.1.2 Build (32) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Folks, I am running netatalk 1.4b2 on a Solaris 2.5.1 machine. I compiled with gcc2.7.2.3. Occasionally (2-3 times per day) I get the following messages to my console and /var/adm/messages: Oct 22 14:13:10 kea atalkd[177]: route: 32266 -> 48175.250: No such file or directory Oct 22 14:13:10 kea atalkd[177]: route: 64988 -> 48175.250: No such file or directory Oct 22 14:13:10 kea atalkd[177]: route: 64989 -> 48175.250: No such file or directory Oct 22 14:13:10 kea atalkd[177]: route: 64990 -> 48175.250: No such file or directory Oct 22 15:12:43 kea atalkd[177]: route: 30020 -> 48175.250: No such file or directory Though the route changes the mac address is always the same. As it happens 48175.250 is my router for my appletalk zone. Any ideas? Thanks.... ------------------------------------------------------------- Randall Downer 244 BioSci Building Systems Programmer Duke University Botany/Zoology Department Durham,NC 27708 randy@duke.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 22 16:32:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA21635; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:32:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA21631; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:32:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA08647; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:32:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA08206 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:31:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from on.on-luebeck.de (on.on-luebeck.de [194.25.93.130]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA08056 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:31:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by on.on-luebeck.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id WAA06360; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 22:24:22 +0200 Received: from on-luebeck.de (gal.ton.on-luebeck.de [192.168.42.2]) by hertz.ton.on-luebeck.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10458; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 22:22:15 +0200 Message-ID: <344E6E88.366CB3E2@on-luebeck.de> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 22:22:16 +0100 From: Erik X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: danj@3skel.com, netatalk-admins Subject: [netatalk-admins] Unable to copy files (error -23) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I have all the below problems too (especially the -23 error) ! I use a german System 7.6.1 by trying the following servers : RedHat 4.1 with netatalk 1.3.3-7 RedHat 4.2 with netatalk 1.4b2 and 1.4b2+asun_a15 All permissions of directories and files I have set to 'rwxrwxrwx', but the problems still exist. Does anybody know what's going wrong or has anybody this behavior too ? Is it a mac or netatalk problem ? Thanks, Erik Dan Janowski's problems : >A have configured the latest netatalk on FreeBSD and >had it hooked up to a network with a bunch of different >macs. I have a problem with many files during a copy >operation through the finder from the mac to the netatalk >server: >on a system running 7.3: no problems. >on a systems running 7.6: with many files I get the error "Cannot copy file "because the file could not be found" While the error prompt was up I checked on the netatalk server in a shell and saw that the full file was there, but as soon as I confirmed the error dialog the mac deleted the file. >on two system running 7.5: with many files I get an error -23 an a zero size file left on the server. >the files don't seem to follow any real pattern, some application >files copy ok, others don't. Some image files are ok and others >aren't. I seem to be able to save directly out of applications >without any incident. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 22 16:35:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA21799; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:35:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA21792; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:34:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA27712; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:23:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA27365 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:22:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA25167 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 15:19:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Wed, 22 Oct 1997 21:19:16 +0200 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk on Linux 2.0.31? From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 21:19:42 +0200 Message-ID: <199710222118146111690M@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: MacSOUP D-2.3b5 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Has anyone already tried Netatalk with Linux 2.0.31? Have the AppleTalk related bugs that alledgedly are present in 2.0.30 been fixed? --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 22 16:46:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA22707; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:46:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA22692; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA28174; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:46:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA28060 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:46:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from on.on-luebeck.de (on.on-luebeck.de [194.25.93.130]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA27959 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:46:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by on.on-luebeck.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id WAA06568; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 22:42:03 +0200 Received: from on-luebeck.de (gal.ton.on-luebeck.de [192.168.42.2]) by hertz.ton.on-luebeck.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA11013; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 22:40:33 +0200 Message-ID: <344E72D2.A7B838C2@on-luebeck.de> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 22:40:34 +0100 From: Erik Heim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Donnelly CC: Osma Ahvenlampi , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] afpd crashes References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Mark Donnelly wrote: > > > Try netatalk-1_4b2+asun2_0a17_tar.gz ! > > > This version has no problems with incorrect passwords and it works even > > > faster killing the afpd daemon. > > Hmm...silly me, I thought it wouldn't work at all after killing the afpd > daemon :-P > Sorry :-) it's not true, that it doesn't work with netatalk 1.3.3.... I mean that afpd of 1.4b2+asun is killing itself faster than the afpd of 1.3.3 after typing in an incorrect password. (it's of no importance) Bye,Erik From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 22 21:01:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA05432; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 21:01:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA05383; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 21:00:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id VAA21146; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 21:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id VAA21137 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 21:01:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from safir.spray.fi (safir.spray.fi [195.10.150.130]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id VAA21108 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 21:01:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18539 invoked by uid 500); 23 Oct 1997 01:00:45 -0000 To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk on Linux 2.0.31? References: <199710222118146111690M@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> From: Osma Ahvenlampi Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.95) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 23 Oct 1997 04:00:45 +0300 In-Reply-To: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de's message of Wed, 22 Oct 1997 21:19:42 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) writes: > Has anyone already tried Netatalk with Linux 2.0.31? Have the AppleTalk > related bugs that alledgedly are present in 2.0.30 been fixed? I'm running it. Other than the authentication related bug I already mentioned, I didn't notice any bugs on 2.0.30 either (or 2.0.27, 2.0.28 or 2.0.29 for that matter). Having not found a detailed changelog for version 2.0.31, I don't know what was fixed.. -- The program is absolutely right; therefore the computer must be wrong. Osma Ahvenlampi From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 22 21:15:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA06567; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 21:15:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA06558; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 21:15:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id VAA26294; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 21:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id VAA26291 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 21:15:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aims.gov.au (pearl.aims.gov.au [138.7.32.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id VAA26256 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 21:15:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aims.gov.au by aims.gov.au (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA06964; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:15:14 +1000 Message-ID: <344EA47A.DC519ED7@aims.gov.au> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:12:27 +1000 From: Kerry Jones X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk Admins Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk 1.4 (Real release) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I saw a message in the archives for this mailing list mentioning that Netatalk 1.4 (no beta) should have been released sometime earlier this year... Has it been released? If so where can I get it from? I am really interested because I need to incorporate netatalk with my Solaris lp printing system, and I don't want to have to reconfigure all of my current printers to use a BSD version of LPD. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 23 00:23:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id AAA15807; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:23:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id AAA15769; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:23:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA14149; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA14146 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from homer.mir.com.my (homer.mir.com.my [202.186.33.5]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id AAA14129 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:23:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.195] (god.mir.com.my [192.168.1.195]) by homer.mir.com.my (8.8.7/8.8.5/PIH) with SMTP id MAA12146 Thu, 23 Oct 1997 12:26:27 +0800 Message-Id: <199710230426.MAA12146@homer.mir.com.my> Subject: [netatalk-admins] How to route? Date: Thu, 23 Oct 97 12:37:20 +0800 x-sender: yeak@mail.mir.com.my x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: Yeak Nai Siew To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all, So happy that I found this mailing list! I hope someone will help me out from getting rid of NT 4.0! I am using Linux box. Coolest free OS on earth! :-) I know how to route two networks running TCP/IP using Linux box or NT, from two different Ethernet card. But I don't know how to route two AppleTalk zones using JUST Linux. My office is mainly running AppleTalk protocol (40 Macs). I divided it into two zones. What I can do at the moment is using NT 4.0 to do the routing for both AppleTalk and TCP/IP. So, NT 4.0 works fine initially... until I discover something weird! The TCP/IP route for NT 4.0 always hang during ftp from one zone to another. If you want to know the details description, I can explain it later. I would like to know how to setup a zone information at one network and do the necessary routing using Netatalk 1.4b2. You don't need to explain to me in very details. There must be a documentation somewhere. Can someone direct me? Thank you so much! -- Yeak Nai Siew << Macintosh Forever >> Director, MIR Communications Sdn Bhd http://www.mir.com.my/ Creator of Mac Power User Group http://www.mir.com.my/mpug/ Fingerprint @_pgp_@ 3A6D 05D3 A3CE B8B7 20C3 CD63 DE82 732D From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 23 07:02:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA14160; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:02:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA14156; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:02:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA14195; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:02:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA14193 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:02:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from random.tpgi.com.au (random.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA14177 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:01:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gretchen (tar-ppp-167.tpgi.com.au [203.26.26.167]) by random.tpgi.com.au (8.8.4/8.8.6) with SMTP id VAA05770 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 21:00:35 +1000 (EST) From: "Eddie Irvine" To: Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk kills apple file server Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 20:55:33 +1000 Message-ID: <01bcdfa2$2fcea8a0$a71a1acb@gretchen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Stupid newbie problem? We've got an apple file server (version 4) for a lab of macs. I've put FreeBSD 2.2.2 with netatalk onto a PC also on the network, basically just for httpd stuff. Put netatalk 1.4b2 on as well for the fun of it and the netatalk file sharing stuff seems to work fine - but the Mac apple server now intermittently stops serving. No error messages anywhere. Ideas, anyone?? From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 23 14:29:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA03106; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA03100; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:29:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA14725; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:29:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA13820 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:27:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from meraldmail.com (emeraldmail.com [206.251.153.5]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA13277 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:26:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mightypc.emeraldmail.com (mightypc.emeraldmail.com [206.251.153.59]) by meraldmail.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA04469 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:30:01 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971023112420.0071aae4@emeraldmail.com> X-Sender: root@emeraldmail.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:24:20 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: James Chelin Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk errors on FreeBSD.. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm running Netatalk1.4b2 on FreeBSD 2.2.2 and I have like 5 mac users constantly opening and savings files on the server.. Everything works fine from their end, but in the server log, and on the console it says stuff like afpd[1280]: afp_openfork: afp_open: Resource temporarily unavailable afpd[1280]: afp_openfork: afp_open: Resource temporarily unavailable afpd[1280]: afp_openfork: afp_open: Resource temporarily unavailable afpd[1280]: afp_openfork: afp_open: Input/Output Error afpd[1280]: afp_openfork: afp_open: Input/Output Error afpd[1280]: afp_openfork: afp_open: Input/Output Error afpd[1494]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Operation timed out afpd[1494]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Operation timed out afpd[1494]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Operation timed out Is is possible to get any data corruption from the above errors??? Thanks, James From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 23 15:38:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA07722; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:38:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA07712; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:38:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA28697; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:38:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA28614 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:38:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anna-atm.rz.uni-frankfurt.de (anna-atm.rz.uni-frankfurt.de [141.2.150.5]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id PAA28246 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:37:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server.labor.localnet (actually NAFp2-021.rz.uni-frankfurt.de) by anna-atm.rz.uni-frankfurt.de with Local SMTP (PP); Thu, 23 Oct 1997 21:37:28 +0000 Message-ID: <344FA6B2.50CAAB31@em.uni-frankfurt.de> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 21:34:10 +0200 From: "Robert O'Kane" Organization: OTHERSPACE X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.31 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] What to remove from .AppleDouble files? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Greetings, (again) I didn't read the list too well the last weeks... What should be removes from the .AppleDouble Files for the Mac-OS-8 finder problem/fix/???? Thanks again... Bob. -- ---------------------------------------------- Unfortunatly, I find language (like politics) necessary for humans. Leider finde Ich Sprache (wie Politik) fuer die Menschen notwendig. ---------------------------------------------- Robert O'Kane Kunstlergruppe OTHERSPACE Founding Member and Linker URL : http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~okane email: okane@em.uni-frankfurt.de ---------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 23 15:40:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA07889; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:40:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA07879; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:40:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA00102; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:40:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA29087 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:39:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anna-atm.rz.uni-frankfurt.de (anna-atm.rz.uni-frankfurt.de [141.2.150.5]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id PAA28222 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server.labor.localnet (actually NAFp2-021.rz.uni-frankfurt.de) by anna-atm.rz.uni-frankfurt.de with Local SMTP (PP); Thu, 23 Oct 1997 21:37:26 +0000 Message-ID: <344FA639.7B39612E@em.uni-frankfurt.de> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 21:32:09 +0200 From: "Robert O'Kane" Organization: OTHERSPACE X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.31 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Can't get TCP automatically... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Greetings, I have just upgraded netatalk (from asun-a15 to asun-a17). I (we) are not able to get automatic TCP connections. All mounted filesystems are useing appletalk (ddp). If I use the "Server IP address" button, everything works fine. What happened? Any ideas? Thanks, Bob. P.S. Netatalk... COOL! -- ---------------------------------------------- Unfortunatly, I find language (like politics) necessary for humans. Leider finde Ich Sprache (wie Politik) fuer die Menschen notwendig. ---------------------------------------------- Robert O'Kane Kunstlergruppe OTHERSPACE Founding Member and Linker URL : http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~okane email: okane@em.uni-frankfurt.de ---------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 23 18:30:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA16018; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 18:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA16009; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 18:30:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA06347; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 18:30:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA06241 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 18:30:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from urgelix.silverserver.co.at (vienna.doze.com [194.152.178.48]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA05721 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 18:29:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from doze.com (ud.doze.com [194.152.178.51]) by urgelix.silverserver.co.at (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA11559 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 00:32:30 +0200 Message-ID: <344FCFD1.533C001D@doze.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 00:29:37 +0200 From: udatny Organization: doze X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Errors at starting atalkd: Too many routes/iface / setifaddr: eth0: Invalid argument Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu hello, got a problem to start atalkd.... i dont know why.... for some weeks it worked well and now (after a network crash at the company) couldnt get atalkd started anymore. my atalkd.conf looks like this; eth0 -phase 2 -net 65280-65534 -addr 65280.84 and always get these error-messages; at starting (bootup); Oct 23 23:12:18 rttm kernel: 3c59x.c/3c900.c:v0.41 6/16/97 Donald Becker linux-vortex@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov Oct 23 23:12:18 rttm kernel: loading device 'eth0'... Oct 23 23:12:18 rttm kernel: eth0: 3Com 3c905 Boomerang 100baseTx at 0x6400, 00:60:97:af:4c:a1, IRQ 11 Oct 23 23:12:18 rttm kernel: 8K word-wide RAM 3:5 Rx:Tx split, autoselect/MIIinterface. Oct 23 23:12:18 rttm kernel: Enabling bus-master transmits and whole-frame receives. Oct 23 23:12:18 rttm kernel: eth0: Overriding PCI latency timer (CFLT) setting of 32, new value is 248. Oct 23 23:12:19 rttm kernel: Too many routes/iface. Oct 23 23:12:19 rttm atalkd[144]: setifaddr: eth0: Invalid argument Oct 23 23:12:44 rttm papd[154]: can't register rttm:LaserWriter@* Oct 23 23:12:44 rttm afpd[156]: Can't register rttm:AFPServer@* Oct 24 05:13:35 rttm atalkd[996]: setifaddr: lo: Operation not permitted Oct 24 05:13:38 rttm atalkd[1000]: setifaddr: lo: Operation not permitted and then, when i try to start atald manually; Oct 24 06:17:09 rttm kernel: Too many routes/iface. Oct 24 06:17:09 rttm atalkd[634]: setifaddr: eth0: Invalid argument who knows any help? ud. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 24 06:01:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA25814; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 06:01:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA25810; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 06:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id GAA11350; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 06:01:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id GAA11345 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 06:01:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kiste.pingnet.de (router.pingnet.de [194.148.12.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA11334 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 06:01:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kiste.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id MAA18346; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:00:20 +0200 Received: from [192.168.59.2] (powermac.poc.pingnet.de [192.168.59.2]) by leela.poc.pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id KAA16857; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 10:02:57 +0200 X-Sender: poc@leela.poc.pingnet.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199710230426.MAA12146@homer.mir.com.my> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 10:02:53 +0200 To: Yeak Nai Siew From: Patrik Schindler Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] How to route? Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >I would like to know how to setup a zone information at one network and >do the necessary routing using Netatalk 1.4b2. You don't need to explain >to me in very details. You'll have to edit /usr/local/etc/atalkd.conf: eth0 -seed -phase 2 -net 10-19 -addr 10.1 -zone "One" eth1 -seed -phase 2 -net 20-29 -addr 20.1 -zone "Two" And restart your machine (atalkd won't start, if you had it running before). Another way is to ifconfig down and up all interfaces, than you won't have to restart. :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 24 09:27:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA29993; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:27:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA29989; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:26:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id JAA06451; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:27:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id JAA06415 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:27:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sparta.scl.co.uk (sparta.scl.co.uk [163.164.160.4]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA06401 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:27:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from janus.scl.co.uk (janus.scl.co.uk [163.164.164.50]) by sparta.scl.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA10255; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:26:24 +0100 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19971024122935.0dbf4afe@mail.scl.co.uk> X-Sender: john@mail.scl.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 13:29:35 +0100 To: "Robert O'Kane" From: John Sutton Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Can't get TCP automatically... Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu AFAIK that's the expected behaviour. I read somewhere that with the use of a mode key when clicking for the connection in the Chooser, you can force TCP/IP - but I don't think I ever managed to get it to work! I don't (often) run Appletalk so I have to use the "Server IP address" button anyhow. At 21:32 23/10/97 +0200, you wrote: >Greetings, > > I have just upgraded netatalk (from asun-a15 to asun-a17). > >I (we) are not able to get automatic TCP connections. All mounted >filesystems are useing appletalk (ddp). >If I use the "Server IP address" button, everything works fine. > >What happened? Any ideas? > >Thanks, > > >Bob. > >P.S. Netatalk... COOL! > >-- >---------------------------------------------- >Unfortunatly, I find language (like politics) necessary for humans. >Leider finde Ich Sprache (wie Politik) fuer die Menschen notwendig. >---------------------------------------------- >Robert O'Kane >Kunstlergruppe OTHERSPACE >Founding Member and Linker > >URL : http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~okane >email: okane@em.uni-frankfurt.de >---------------------------------------------- > > > *************************************************** John Sutton SCL Computer Services URL http://www.scl.co.uk/ Tel. +44 (0) 1239 621021 *************************************************** From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 24 09:27:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA00106; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:27:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA00102; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:27:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA10215; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:27:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA10211 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:27:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sparta.scl.co.uk (sparta.scl.co.uk [163.164.160.4]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA10187 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:27:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from janus.scl.co.uk (janus.scl.co.uk [163.164.164.50]) by sparta.scl.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA10252; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:26:22 +0100 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19971024122933.0dbfa1aa@mail.scl.co.uk> X-Sender: john@mail.scl.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 13:29:33 +0100 To: "Robert O'Kane" From: John Sutton Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] What to remove from .AppleDouble files? Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu AFAIK you need to apply the patches which are available for 1.4b2 on the netatalk site. Maybe these patches (or the functionality therein) are already included in the asun patches? I'm running 7.5 so haven't yet got round to checking... At 21:34 23/10/97 +0200, you wrote: >Greetings, (again) > > I didn't read the list too well the last weeks... > >What should be removes from the .AppleDouble Files for the >Mac-OS-8 finder problem/fix/???? > >Thanks again... > >Bob. > >-- >---------------------------------------------- >Unfortunatly, I find language (like politics) necessary for humans. >Leider finde Ich Sprache (wie Politik) fuer die Menschen notwendig. >---------------------------------------------- >Robert O'Kane >Kunstlergruppe OTHERSPACE >Founding Member and Linker > >URL : http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~okane >email: okane@em.uni-frankfurt.de >---------------------------------------------- > > *************************************************** John Sutton SCL Computer Services URL http://www.scl.co.uk/ Tel. +44 (0) 1239 621021 *************************************************** From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 24 14:23:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA12424; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:23:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA12418; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA26623; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:23:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA25886 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:22:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freya.cs.umass.edu (freya.cs.umass.edu [128.119.40.195]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA25779 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:22:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from freya.cs.umass.edu (freya.cs.umass.edu [128.119.40.195]) by freya.cs.umass.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA19440; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:21:36 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:21:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Valerie Caro To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu cc: Valerie Caro Subject: [netatalk-admins] File locking with netatalk-1.4b2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu We are running netatalk-1.4b2 on a Linux machine. We need to be able to open files shared for writing. We are using a database package which does the record locking in the database for us, so we want to have multiple users opeining the same files for write access. Is this possible with netatalk? Currently we are getting an error when we try to open it a second time. --- Valerie Caro Computer Science Computing Facility, valerie@cs.umass.edu LGRC Room A313, Tel: (413)545-4442 University of Massachusetts Fax: (413)545-1249 Amherst, MA 01003 From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 24 18:37:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA25896; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 18:37:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA25890; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 18:37:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA11086; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 18:37:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA11062 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 18:37:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tincan.tincan.org (tincan.tincan.org [204.227.173.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA11023 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 18:37:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kcruz@localhost) by tincan.tincan.org (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA15114; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 15:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 15:33:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kristofer H. Cruz" To: Valerie Caro cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] File locking with netatalk-1.4b2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Currently there is no file locking with netatalk. Kris /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Kristofer H. Cruz Manager System Administration/Software Development Center for Technology, Education and the Community (CTEC) /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, Valerie Caro wrote: > > We are running netatalk-1.4b2 on a Linux machine. We need > to be able to open files shared for writing. > We are using a database package which does the record locking > in the database for us, so we want to have multiple > users opeining the same files for write access. > Is this possible with netatalk? Currently we are getting > an error when we try to open it a second time. > > --- > Valerie Caro Computer Science Computing Facility, > valerie@cs.umass.edu LGRC Room A313, > Tel: (413)545-4442 University of Massachusetts > Fax: (413)545-1249 Amherst, MA 01003 > > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 24 22:35:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id WAA02754; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 22:35:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id WAA02750; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 22:35:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA29534; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 22:35:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA29518 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 22:35:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from homer.mir.com.my (homer.mir.com.my [202.186.33.5]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA29499 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 22:34:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.195] (god.mir.com.my [192.168.1.195]) by homer.mir.com.my (8.8.7/8.8.5/PIH) with SMTP id KAA19166; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 10:38:37 +0800 Message-Id: <199710250238.KAA19166@homer.mir.com.my> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] File locking with netatalk-1.4b2 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 97 10:49:02 +0800 x-sender: yeak@mail.mir.com.my x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: Yeak Nai Siew To: "Valerie Caro" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Linux has a madatory file locking feature in the kernel. May be it is activated. You can change that during kernel setup. That is only a suggestion... > > We are running netatalk-1.4b2 on a Linux machine. We need >to be able to open files shared for writing. >We are using a database package which does the record locking >in the database for us, so we want to have multiple >users opeining the same files for write access. > Is this possible with netatalk? Currently we are getting >an error when we try to open it a second time. > -- Yeak Nai Siew << Macintosh Forever >> Director, MIR Communications Sdn Bhd http://www.mir.com.my/ Creator of Mac Power User Group http://www.mir.com.my/mpug/ Fingerprint @_pgp_@ 3A6D 05D3 A3CE B8B7 20C3 CD63 DE82 732D From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Oct 25 10:06:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA08699; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 10:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA08695; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 10:06:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA17344; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 10:06:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA17338 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 10:06:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (colossus.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.202]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA17314 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 10:06:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [146.141.26.200] (macenroe1.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.200]) by colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01422 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 16:08:58 +0200 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 16:08:58 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (John Ostrowick) Subject: [netatalk-admins] not quite 'top' but Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu the following is a script i made to show who was logged in. it's pretty cool. #! /bin/sh if [ $# -gt 0 ] then echo "USER PID %CPU %MEM SIZE RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND" ps -axu | grep afpd | grep $1 | grep -v "grep afpd" else echo "USER PID %CPU %MEM SIZE RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND" echo ps -axu | grep afpd | grep -v "grep afpd" echo echo 'total number of users logged on:' ps -axl | grep afpd | grep -v "grep afpd" | wc --lines echo echo 'main afpd status' afpdstat=`ps -axu | grep root | grep afpd | grep -v "grep afpd"` if [ "$afpdstat" != "" ] then echo 'up' else echo 'DOWN' fi echo echo 'atalkd status' atalkdstat=`ps -ax | grep atalkd | grep -v "grep atalkd"` if [ "$atalkdstat" != "" ] then echo 'up' else echo 'DOWN' fi fi exit 0 ________________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick jon@cs.wits.ac.za Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand 1 Jan Smuts Ave, Johannesburg, South Africa. Senate House 1012 Phone: +27 11 716-3783 Fax: +27 11 339-3513 My web page: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/more/jon/aboutme.html My ftp site: ftp://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za My listserv: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/listservs.html From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Oct 26 01:14:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id BAA29748; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 01:14:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id BAA29744; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 01:14:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id BAA22032; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 01:15:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id BAA22030 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 01:15:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from knot.iegroup.com (ns.iegroup.com [24.124.2.253]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id BAA22026 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 01:15:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from knot.iegroup.com (root@localhost) by knot.iegroup.com with ESMTP id AAA06964 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 00:14:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from iegroup.com (thermal.iegroup.com [10.0.1.5]) by knot.iegroup.com with SMTP id AAA06960 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 00:14:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost by iegroup.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id AAA01911; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 00:14:31 -0500 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 00:14:30 -0500 (CDT) From: John Fulmer To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and Solaris 2.6 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Okay, this has been discussed recently, but I wasn't paying attention... How do you compile Netatalk 1.4b2 for Solaris 2.6? I haven't been able to find any information, and I spent a while RTFM'ing... thanks... jf From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Oct 26 02:48:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id CAA02029; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 02:48:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id CAA02025; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 02:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id CAA05953; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 02:49:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id CAA05950 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 02:49:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at (germ2.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id CAA05945 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 02:49:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from buster.retti.at (internet@pc1-c608.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.17]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.7/8.8.6 (l 2)) with ESMTP id JAA07139; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 09:48:38 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (m610.retti.at [192.168.0.13]) by buster.retti.at (8.8.3/8.8.3 (GR v 1.1)) with ESMTP id IAA03537; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:47:57 +0100 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:47:57 +0100 X-Sender: gregor@mail.retti.at Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (John Ostrowick), netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Gregor Retti Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] not quite 'top' but Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu hi, thanks for the script! I had to add a w to the ps parameters, since on my linux-box I have netatalk installed in /usr/local/atalk and afpd shows as /usr/local/atalk/etc/afpd in the ps output, which will be truncated otherwise. gregor At 16:08 Uhr +0200 25.10.1997, John Ostrowick wrote: >the following is a script i made to show who was logged in. > >it's pretty cool. > > > >#! /bin/sh > >if [ $# -gt 0 ] >then > echo "USER PID %CPU %MEM SIZE RSS TTY STAT START TIME >COMMAND" > ps -axu | grep afpd | grep $1 | grep -v "grep afpd" >else > echo "USER PID %CPU %MEM SIZE RSS TTY STAT START TIME >COMMAND" > echo > ps -axu | grep afpd | grep -v "grep afpd" > echo > echo 'total number of users logged on:' > ps -axl | grep afpd | grep -v "grep afpd" | wc --lines > echo > echo 'main afpd status' > afpdstat=`ps -axu | grep root | grep afpd | grep -v "grep afpd"` > if [ "$afpdstat" != "" ] > then > echo 'up' > else > echo 'DOWN' > fi > echo > echo 'atalkd status' > atalkdstat=`ps -ax | grep atalkd | grep -v "grep atalkd"` > if [ "$atalkdstat" != "" ] > then > echo 'up' > else > echo 'DOWN' > fi >fi >exit 0 > >________________________________________________________________ >John Ostrowick jon@cs.wits.ac.za >Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand >1 Jan Smuts Ave, Johannesburg, South Africa. Senate House 1012 >Phone: +27 11 716-3783 Fax: +27 11 339-3513 >My web page: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/more/jon/aboutme.html >My ftp site: ftp://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za >My listserv: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/listservs.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ----------- http://germanistik.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Oct 26 05:47:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id FAA18783; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 05:47:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id FAA18779; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 05:47:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id FAA15210; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 05:48:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id FAA15208 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 05:48:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from toby.han.de (quirk.hiss.org [192.109.225.43]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id FAA15203 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 05:48:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from baghira.han.de (baghira.han.de [192.109.225.2]) by toby.han.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP for id ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:47:30 +0200 (MES) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baghira.han.de (8.8.7-s-4/12-10-97/20:11:49/fifi) with UUCP for netatalk-admins@umich.edu id ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 11:38:57 +0100 Received: (from micha@localhost) by dolbyco.han.de (8.8.4/8.7.3) id LAA03958 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 11:35:53 +0100 From: Michael Zuelsdorff Message-Id: <199710261035.LAA03958@dolbyco.han.de> Subject: [netatalk-admins] kernel 2.0.31 and performance To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 11:35:52 +0100 (MET) Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, after updating from Linux 2.0.30 to 2.0.31 I did a performance test (with the lantest program from www.helios.de): With traditional AppleShare, reading from the server is faster with the new kernel while writing has become slower Linux Read Write (Mac IIci with 7.5.3) 2.0.30 360 310 2.0.31 525 275 with AppleShare/IP the overall performance is slower Linux Read Write (Performa 5300 with 7.6.1 & OT 1.2) 2.0.30 970 870 2.0.31 950 750 Well, besides the changes to ddp.c there is a lot different in the aic7xxx driver (I'm using the 2940 Controller), but from tests with "hdparm -t" and copying big chunks of data with "dd" I cannot state that the new driver is basically slower... Maybe some other users can post their experiences. _~_ (?) (o o)' -- V -^ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . N . (!) Michael Zuelsdorff \ i / I don't like LINUX - ' ^ ^ Gruene Riede 5 '. \u/ .' I love it (o o) D 31311 Dollbergen '>X<' / v \ +49 517-792-2113 --- " L " --------------------------------//8'8\\------ micha@dolbyco.han.de -- From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Oct 26 12:53:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA24529; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:53:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA24525; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:53:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA15478; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:53:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA15472 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:53:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.72.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA15466 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:53:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dannyman@localhost) by arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA17028; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 11:53:22 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19971026115321.37802@arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 11:53:21 -0600 From: Dannyman To: Gregor Retti Cc: John Ostrowick , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] not quite 'top' but References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e In-Reply-To: ; from Gregor Retti on Sun, Oct 26, 1997 at 08:47:57AM +0100 X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu X-URL: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Pretty cool. Now in my bin/awho but modified slightly. (Thanks for the -w observation - it applies to FreeBSd too.) Notable as well - FreeBSD's wc doesn't support --lines. At least, 2.2.2-RELEASE (I'll be upgrading to 2.2.5-STABLE soon! :) -- //Dan -=- This message brought to you by djhoward@uiuc.edu -=- \\/yori -=- Information - http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ -=- aiokomete -=- Your true value depends entirely on what you are compared with. From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Oct 26 12:54:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA24556; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:54:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA24549; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:53:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA08710; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:54:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA08704 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:54:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.72.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA08699 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:54:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dannyman@localhost) by arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA17038; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 11:53:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19971026115356.39163@arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 11:53:56 -0600 From: Dannyman To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] awho Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=6Gm4EdcadzBjdNDT X-Mailer: Mutt 0.85e X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu X-URL: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --6Gm4EdcadzBjdNDT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii sorry, i meant to include my version, for kicks. :) -- //Dan -=- This message brought to you by djhoward@uiuc.edu -=- \\/yori -=- Information - http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ -=- aiokomete -=- Your true value depends entirely on what you are compared with. --6Gm4EdcadzBjdNDT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=awho #! /bin/sh if [ $# -gt 0 ] then echo "USER PID %CPU %MEM SIZE RSS TTY STAT START TIME" ps -axuw | grep afpd | grep $1 | grep -v "grep afpd" | cut -c1-65 else echo "USER PID %CPU %MEM SIZE RSS TTY STAT START TIME" ps -axuw | grep afpd | grep -v "grep afpd" | cut -c1-65 echo echo 'total number of users logged on:' ps -axlw | grep afpd | grep -v "grep afpd" | wc -l echo echo 'main afpd status' afpdstat=`ps -axuw | grep root | grep afpd | grep -v "grep afpd"` if [ "$afpdstat" != "" ] then echo 'up' else echo 'DOWN' fi echo echo 'atalkd status' atalkdstat=`ps -ax | grep atalkd | grep -v "grep atalkd"` if [ "$atalkdstat" != "" ] then echo 'up' else echo 'DOWN' fi fi exit 0 ________________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick jon@cs.wits.ac.za Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand 1 Jan Smuts Ave, Johannesburg, South Africa. Senate House 1012 Phone: +27 11 716-3783 Fax: +27 11 339-3513 My web page: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/more/jon/aboutme.html My ftp site: ftp://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za My listserv: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/listservs.html --6Gm4EdcadzBjdNDT-- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Oct 27 04:39:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id EAA20486; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:39:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id EAA20314; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:39:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id EAA29490; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:39:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id EAA29488 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:39:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from pat.uio.no (pat.uio.no [129.240.130.16]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id EAA29484 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:39:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from gilgamesj.uio.no by pat.uio.no with local-SMTP (PP); Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:39:12 +0100 Received: from math.uio.no (eris.uio.no [129.240.222.69]) by gilgamesj.uio.no ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:39:10 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199710270939.KAA26234@gilgamesj.uio.no> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 05/05/96 To: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (John Ostrowick) cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] not quite 'top' but In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 25 Oct 1997 16:08:58 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:39:08 +0100 From: Nicolai Langfeldt Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (John Ostrowick) tastet: > the following is a script i made to show who was logged in. ... Yes, that's cool. However running ps all those times was slow. Here is my version, it runs ps only once. It's for ksh, but everyone has ksh, right? #!/bin/ksh runps () { STATUS="$(ps axuw)" AFPSTATUS=$(print -n "$STATUS" | grep afpd) print -n "$STATUS" | head -1 } case $# in 1) runps print "$AFPSTATUS" | grep "$1" exit 0;; 0) :;; *) print "Usage: awho [user]" exit 0;; esac; runps print "$AFPSTATUS\n" print 'total number of users logged on: ' $(print -n "$AFPSTATUS" | wc -l) print -n 'main afpd status: ' case $AFPSTATUS in '') print DOWN;; *) print up;; esac print -n 'atalkd status: ' case $(print -n "$STATUS" | grep atalkd) in '') print DOWN;; *) print up;; esac exit 0 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Oct 27 07:38:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA07333; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 07:38:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA07326; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 07:38:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id HAA18064; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 07:39:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id HAA18062 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 07:39:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from silverserver.co.at (silverserver.vbs.at [194.152.167.65]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA18039 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 07:39:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ost@localhost) by silverserver.co.at (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA11884 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:38:26 +0100 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:38:26 +0100 (MET) From: ost X-Sender: ost@silverserver.co.at To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] how to control permissions In-Reply-To: <199710211609.JAA10084@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu i ran into problems of a user creating files via appleshare in his www-directory which always ended up being chmoded to 600. but should to 644 of course for web-files. so how can one control the permissions of the files on the linux-disk from the mac? thanx again. oswald From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Oct 27 14:09:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA02815; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:09:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA02810; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:08:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA07717; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:09:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA07697 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:09:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from shark.sfei.org (shark.sfei.org [204.118.78.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA07657 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:09:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from [204.118.78.9] (salmon.sfei.org [204.118.78.9]) by shark.sfei.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06160 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:10:04 -0800 X-Sender: mike@shark.sfei.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:07:02 -0700 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Michael May Subject: [netatalk-admins] Fixed--MS Word 6 creating generic icons Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The Word icon problem referred to below is gone after installing Adrian's a17 patch. Thank you Adrian! -Mike ---------------------------- >Here's a weird one: > >MS Word 6.0.1 files are in some cases saved with generic icons on a >netatalk 1.4b2+asun2.0a14 volume. To witness: Open a folder in the finder. >Switch to Word, keep a view of the folder's finder window in the >background. Create and save a file to that folder. Proper icon appears. >Close the Word file. The icon goes generic (automatically in OS 8, after >window refresh in OS 7). Creator and type codes are blank. > >If you repeat the process, but after saving and before closing, you merely >switch to the finder and back, then close, the icon remains correct. > >This behavior is not seen with Word 5, Excel 5, ClarisWorks 4, or >PowerPoint 4. This behavior is also not seen when saving to a regular >AppleShare volume, or with a 68K machine, all other parameters the same. > >Setup: >netatalk1.4b2+asun2.0a14 on linux >System 7.6.1 OR Mac OS 8 >PowerBase 180 OR PowerMac 7200/120 >MS Word 6.0.1 > >I have a feeling that this has something to do with the OS8 finder >jumpiness fix (?). But the real prob seems to be with Word 6. > >Can anyone reproduce this? ---------------------------- Michael May San Francisco Estuary Institute (510) 231-9539 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Oct 27 14:09:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA02834; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:09:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA02828; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:09:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA19844; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:09:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA19835 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:09:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from servo.na3.seac.pf (wired.seac.pf [208.139.164.100]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA19770 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:09:00 -0500 (EST) From: paquet@seac.pf Received: from gibson.adm.seac.pf (gibson.adm.seac.pf [192.168.4.1]) by servo.na3.seac.pf (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21757 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:09:56 -1000 Received: (from paquet@localhost) by gibson.adm.seac.pf (8.7.6/8.7.3) id JAA36144; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:09:07 -1000 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:09:07 -1000 Message-Id: <199710271909.JAA36144@gibson.adm.seac.pf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Group permissions problem X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello everybody, I'm using 1.4b2+asun2.0a15.2 on a Linux 2.0.31. I seem to be forced to list my users in /etc/group to include them in their PRIMARY group. If I don't do that, they can't enter directories which access is restricted to their primary group (when connected via netatalk...of course ;). Is this corrected by the latest Adrian Sun's patches ? TIA -- _ David PAQUET email : paquet@seac.pf __\ /\ System Coconut phone : +689 861214 / _\|__ fax : +689 861019 //o\\ \ | \\ Civil Aviation || TAHITI - French Polynesia ________________________________/ \ From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Oct 27 14:30:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA04537; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:30:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA04518; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:30:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA04534; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:30:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA04506 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:30:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from eve.telalink.net (eve.telalink.net [207.152.1.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA04380 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 14:29:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from bill.telalink.net (bill.telalink.net [207.152.9.31]) by eve.telalink.net (MTA-v3.7/8.01n-fbmx-blkspam) with SMTP id NAA02074 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:28:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:29:45 -0600 From: "Bill Butler" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] a17 failed compilation Message-ID: <20421048.3086947785@bill.telalink.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry (MacOS) [1.3.0b2, s/n U-200372] X-Authenticated: bill by mail.telalink.net X-Licensed-To: Telalink MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Have any linux slackware 2.0.30 users successfully patched, compiled, & installed asun's a17 version of netatalk? The compile/install fails on me everytime. I'm currently just running 1.4b2. I even tried downloading asun's complete version instead of patching 1.4b2 separately. -- Bill Butler Bill@Telalink.Net President, Chief Operating Officer 615.321.9100 ext.230 Back in the 1970s we didn't have the space shuttle to get all excited about. We had to settle for men walking on the crummy moon. - Russell Beland From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Oct 27 15:38:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA14129; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:38:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA14124; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:38:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA02667; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:38:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA02641 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:38:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from safir.spray.fi (safir.spray.fi [195.10.150.130]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id PAA02594 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:38:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5718 invoked by uid 500); 27 Oct 1997 20:37:44 -0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] afpd crashes References: From: Osma Ahvenlampi Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.95) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 27 Oct 1997 22:37:44 +0200 In-Reply-To: Mark Donnelly's message of Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:28:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Lines: 16 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Mark Donnelly writes: > The asun source tree is (as I'm given to understand) based off the 1.4b2 > source tree. What happened is that this really nice man named Adrian Sun > decided to take it upon himself to add the AppleshareIP into the source Ooh, wonderful, I grabbed netatalk1.4b2+asun17, it compiled with very little effort (I did have to configure it a bit to change it to use PAM, disable CRLF conversion, and the other basic mods), and fixed all my problems. And AppleShare over IP is lots faster, too, which makes my users happy. Thanks! -- Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives. Osma Ahvenlampi From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Oct 27 17:01:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA17800; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:01:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA17796; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:01:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA19983; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:01:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA19976 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:01:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from freya.cs.umass.edu (freya.cs.umass.edu [128.119.40.195]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA19329 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:00:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from freya.cs.umass.edu (freya.cs.umass.edu [128.119.40.195]) by freya.cs.umass.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA17259; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:59:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:59:47 -0500 (EST) From: Valerie Caro To: Yeak Nai Siew cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] File locking with netatalk-1.4b2 In-Reply-To: <199710250238.KAA19166@homer.mir.com.my> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, Yeak Nai Siew wrote: > Linux has a madatory file locking feature in the kernel. May be it is > activated. You can change that during kernel setup. > > That is only a suggestion... I tried turning off the Linux madatory file locking feature and now I cannot connect to the netatalk server at all. So that doesn't seem to be a solution. > > > > > We are running netatalk-1.4b2 on a Linux machine. We need > >to be able to open files shared for writing. > >We are using a database package which does the record locking > >in the database for us, so we want to have multiple > >users opeining the same files for write access. > > Is this possible with netatalk? Currently we are getting > >an error when we try to open it a second time. > > > > > -- > Yeak Nai Siew << Macintosh Forever >> > Director, MIR Communications Sdn Bhd http://www.mir.com.my/ > Creator of Mac Power User Group http://www.mir.com.my/mpug/ > Fingerprint @_pgp_@ 3A6D 05D3 A3CE B8B7 20C3 CD63 DE82 732D > > > > --- Valerie Caro Computer Science Computing Facility, valerie@cs.umass.edu LGRC Room A313, Tel: (413)545-4442 University of Massachusetts Fax: (413)545-1249 Amherst, MA 01003 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Oct 27 17:26:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA18955; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:26:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA18912; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:25:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA02919; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:05:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA02239 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:03:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from isurus.marinelab.sarasota.fl.us (isurus.marinelab.sarasota.fl.us [204.199.126.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id QAA02115 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:03:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from orcinus.mote.org by isurus.marinelab.sarasota.fl.us with smtp (Linux Smail3.2.0.92 #2) id m0xPwJ5-0011TMC; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:02:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:02:27 -0500 (EST) From: Don Hayward X-Sender: don@orcinus.mote.org To: Bill Butler cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] a17 failed compilation In-Reply-To: <20421048.3086947785@bill.telalink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Short answer - yes. I have 1.4b2+a17 running on a slackware 2.030, now 2.0.31. As I recall -- it was way last week sometime -- it was out of the box. On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Bill Butler wrote: > Have any linux slackware 2.0.30 users successfully patched, compiled, & > installed asun's a17 version of netatalk? The compile/install fails on me > everytime. I'm currently just running 1.4b2. > > I even tried downloading asun's complete version instead of patching 1.4b2 > separately. > > -- > > Bill Butler > Bill@Telalink.Net > President, Chief Operating Officer > 615.321.9100 ext.230 > > Back in the 1970s we didn't have the space shuttle to get all excited > about. > We had to settle for men walking on the crummy moon. - Russell > Beland > Don Hayward don@mote.org Mote Marine Laboratory Voice: 941.388.4441 1600 Ken Thompson Parkway Fax: 941.388.4312 Sarasota, FL 34236 See: http://www.mote.org Independent, non-profit, marine and estuarine research and education facility. For PGP public key do: finger don@ajaia.mote.org or http://www.mote.org/~don require "disclaimer.pl"; # We run Linux Taxes feed the starving and clothe the naked. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Oct 27 17:37:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA20396; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:37:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA20389; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:37:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA13032; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:37:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA13014 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:37:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from abby.skypoint.net (abby.skypoint.net [199.86.32.252]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA12991 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:37:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by abby.skypoint.net (8.8.7/jl 1.3) with UUCP id QAA21827 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:37:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from aurora.HIRSHFIELDS (aurora.hirshfields.com [192.168.195.228]) by fep.hirshfields.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA06001 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:09:46 -0600 (CST) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: "Roger P. Johnson" Subject: [netatalk-admins] How to uninstall netatalk-1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 ?? Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:13:33 -0600 Message-ID: <971027221333.860.6ed.23084@aurora.HIRSHFIELDS.8A282AA4C2B3A9E2> X-Mailer: WRQ Reflection Mail Version 6.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, Bummer, I compiled netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 gcc 2.7.2.1 and did the install and 'make kinstall'. Here is messages from atalkd from /var/adm/messages: Oct 22 18:19:22 ultra unix: WARNING: ddi_installdrv: no major number for ddp Oct 22 18:19:22 ultra unix: WARNING: mod_installdrv: Cannot install ddp Oct 22 18:19:22 ultra atalkd[485]: I_PUSH: Invalid argument I get other messages from papd and afpd as well. How do I uninstall all this stuff until something more stable for Solaris comes out ?? Thanks, Roger From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Oct 27 18:11:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA22452; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:11:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA22446; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:11:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA13097; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:11:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA13075 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:11:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from eve.telalink.net (eve.telalink.net [207.152.1.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA12842 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:10:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from bill.telalink.net (bill.telalink.net [207.152.9.31]) by eve.telalink.net (MTA-v3.7/8.01n-fbmx-blkspam) with SMTP id RAA03974 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:09:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:10:53 -0600 From: "Bill Butler" To: netatalk Subject: [netatalk-admins] Compile a17 fails (detail) Message-ID: <21219839.3086961053@bill.telalink.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry (MacOS) [1.3.0b2, s/n U-200372] X-Authenticated: bill by mail.telalink.net X-Licensed-To: Telalink MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have applied the kernel patch and commented my Makefiles as follows: sys/linux/Makefile # -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER ..snip... # if you aren't using pam and are using glibc, you'll need to add -lcrypt AFPLIBS= -lcrypt ADDLIBS= -lcrypt Makefile # Location of the tcp wrapper library and include files. Comment this out # if you don't want tcp wrapper support. having tcp wrapper support is # highly recommended. # TCPWRAPDIR=/usr # Location of PAM support library and include files. Comment this out # if you don't want to enable PAM support # PAMDIR=/usr I'm sorry to be such a bother but I'm having the same problem on 2 different boxes running 2.0.30. -Bill PAMINCPATH="${PAMINCPATH}" PAMDEFS="${PAMDEFS}" \ AFSINCPATH="${AFSINCPATH}" AFSDEFS="${AFSDEFS}" \ afpd make[4]: Entering directory `/opt/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17/etc/afpd' gcc -DUAM_RNDNUM -O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized -I../../include -I/usr/local/include -DAPPLCNAME -DCRLF -c unix.c -o unix.o unix.c:58: sys/quota.h: No such file or directory make[4]: *** [unix.o] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/opt/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17/etc/afpd' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/opt/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17/etc/afpd' make[2]: *** [afpd] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/opt/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17/etc' make[1]: *** [../../etc] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17/sys/linux' make: *** [all] Error 2 -- Bill Butler Bill@Telalink.Net President, Chief Operating Officer 615.321.9100 ext.230 Back in the 1970s we didn't have the space shuttle to get all excited about. We had to settle for men walking on the crummy moon. - Russell Beland From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Oct 27 21:00:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA28725; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:00:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA28721; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:00:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id VAA26473; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:00:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id VAA26465 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:00:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from alice.stimpy.com ([208.211.184.17] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA26429 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:00:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from alice.stimpy.com (alice.stimpy.com [208.211.184.17]) by alice.stimpy.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA04051; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:54:57 -0800 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:54:57 -0800 (PST) From: Walt Bigelow To: Bill Butler cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] a17 failed compilation In-Reply-To: <20421048.3086947785@bill.telalink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Bill Butler wrote: > Have any linux slackware 2.0.30 users successfully patched, compiled, & > installed asun's a17 version of netatalk? The compile/install fails on me > everytime. I'm currently just running 1.4b2. > > I even tried downloading asun's complete version instead of patching 1.4b2 > separately. Yes I have that same problem... seems its looking for specific libs that are packed with REDHAT(I cannot remember specs right now tho :/)... I have not been able to compile it.. tho appleshare IP would be nice.. -Walt From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Oct 27 21:38:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA01002; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:38:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA00996; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:38:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id VAA10506; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:39:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id VAA10501 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:39:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate.metricom.com (ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA10489 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:39:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (c204500-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com [24.1.67.221]) by rgate.metricom.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA28751; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 20:40:27 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199710280240.UAA28751@rgate.metricom.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] a17 failed compilation Date: Mon, 27 Oct 97 18:38:31 -0800 x-sender: zarzycki@pop.ricochet.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Dave Zarzycki To: "Walt Bigelow" , "Bill Butler" cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On 10/27/97 5:54 PM, Walt Bigelow (walt@stimpy.com) wrote: >On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Bill Butler wrote: > >> Have any linux slackware 2.0.30 users successfully patched, compiled, & >> installed asun's a17 version of netatalk? The compile/install fails on me >> everytime. I'm currently just running 1.4b2. >> >> I even tried downloading asun's complete version instead of patching 1.4b2 >> separately. >Yes I have that same problem... seems its looking for specific libs that >are packed with REDHAT(I cannot remember specs right now tho :/)... I have >not been able to compile it.. tho appleshare IP would be nice.. I have had the same problems with a generic RedHat 4.2 system. Sigh. It was fixed through carefully upgrading to the latest libc (non glibc) and ld.so, and friends. If you want, I can post the rpm versions of critical packages. davez ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Zarzycki Student Intern San Jose State University Apple Computer, Inc. dzarzyck@email.sjsu.edu zarzycki@apple.com zarzycki@ricochet.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP Fingerprints (RSA): 8AF2 1040 8A9C D025 47BE 70DD A51C C887 DSS/Diffie-Hellman: CB9E 2621 B4BA 3F96 3516 B312 15B4 D842 3809 EF99 Contact pgpkeys.mit.edu for my public keys. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 28 01:17:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id BAA16151; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 01:17:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id BAA16147; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 01:16:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id BAA25805; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 01:17:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id BAA25800 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 01:17:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from eve.telalink.net (eve.telalink.net [207.152.1.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id BAA25794 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 01:17:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from eve-be0 (eve-be0 [207.152.1.3]) by eve.telalink.net (MTA-v3.7/8.01n-fbmx-blkspam) with SMTP id AAA16630; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 00:14:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 00:14:58 -0600 (CST) From: Bill Butler X-Sender: bill@eve-be0 Reply-To: Bill Butler To: Walt Bigelow cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] a17 failed compilation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I actually got it to compile finally. Since I had 2.0.30, it turns out that I had to add -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER to the DEFS= line of sys/linux/Makefile. I also left AFPLIBS= and ADDLIBS= blank and it compiled like a champ. Hope you can get it to work. On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Walt Bigelow wrote: > > > On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Bill Butler wrote: > > > Have any linux slackware 2.0.30 users successfully patched, compiled, & > > installed asun's a17 version of netatalk? The compile/install fails on me > > everytime. I'm currently just running 1.4b2. > > > > I even tried downloading asun's complete version instead of patching 1.4b2 > > separately. > Yes I have that same problem... seems its looking for specific libs that > are packed with REDHAT(I cannot remember specs right now tho :/)... I have > not been able to compile it.. tho appleshare IP would be nice.. > > -Walt > > -- Bill Butler Bill@Telalink.Net President, Chief Operating Officer 615.321.9100 ext.230 ============================Hint to the Mac user============================= When talking to a Windows user, be sure to always adopt a condescending tone. If you have trouble with this, ask a Unix user. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 28 02:07:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id CAA17354; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 02:07:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id CAA17347; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 02:07:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id CAA09549; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 02:08:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id CAA09540 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 02:08:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id CAA09534 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 02:08:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10040; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 22:52:41 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA24387; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 23:07:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 23:07:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199710280707.XAA24387@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: bill@telalink.net CC: walt@stimpy.com, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from Bill Butler on Tue, 28 Oct 1997 00:14:58 -0600 (CST)) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] a17 failed compilation Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu for people having difficulty compiling my patched netatalk, please remember to look in README.ASUN and README.LINUX (if applicable). i believe i explain all the issues that have come up. as i've stated before, the default option setup is for my linux/glibc/pamified/des-enabled system. that's probably quite different from yours. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 28 04:04:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id EAA19253; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 04:04:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id EAA19247; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 04:04:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA04033; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 04:04:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA04031 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 04:04:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from skyrmir.iav.is (iav.is [193.4.131.111]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA04027 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 04:04:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from skotta.iav.is (skotta.iav.is [193.4.178.1]) by skyrmir.iav.is (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20979 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:04:09 GMT Received: from [193.4.178.200] (soffia.iav.is [193.4.178.200]) by skotta.iav.is with ESMTP (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA02227 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:12:27 GMT Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:12:27 GMT X-Sender: olafur@skotta Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: "Olafur Tr. Thorsteinsson" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk on Digital OSF/1 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Does netatalk run on Digital OSF/1? _____________________________________________________________________ Ólafur Tr. Þorsteinsson // Tölvupóstur: olafur@iav.is Upplýsingadeild /~\_/~\ Sími: 420-4227 Íslenskir aðalverktakar /______/ Fax: 425-2273 235 Keflavíkurflugvelli \______\ Farsími: 854-2420 \_/-\_/ ... gerir þér gott! _____________________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 28 10:37:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA16082; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:37:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA16078; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:37:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id KAA21981; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:37:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id KAA21972 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:37:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from abby.skypoint.net (abby.skypoint.net [199.86.32.252]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA21960 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:37:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by abby.skypoint.net (8.8.7/jl 1.3) with UUCP id JAA17055 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:37:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from aurora.HIRSHFIELDS (aurora.hirshfields.com [192.168.195.228]) by fep.hirshfields.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA11614 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:08:25 -0600 (CST) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: "Roger P. Johnson" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] How to uninstall netatalk-1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 ?? Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:12:13 -0600 Message-ID: <971028151213.800.7ab.4325@aurora.HIRSHFIELDS.E424E9F10C0FC96C> In-Reply-To: "Tim Carlson's" message of "Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:46:35 -0700" X-Mailer: WRQ Reflection Mail Version 6.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Roger P. Johnson wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Bummer, I compiled netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 gcc 2.7.2.1 >> and did the install and 'make kinstall'. Here is messages from atalkd >> from > >Did you use asun's patched version? Works quite nicely under Solaris ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Where do I find this? I don't recall any mention in the FAQ or any otherinfo I have on netatalk. Thanks. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 28 11:59:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA22853; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:59:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id LAA22847; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:59:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id LAA22844; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:59:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id LAA22821; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:59:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199710281659.LAA22821@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: netatalk@umich.edu To: "Roger P. Johnson" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, netatalk@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] How to uninstall netatalk-1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 ?? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:13:33 CST." <971027221333.860.6ed.23084@aurora.HIRSHFIELDS.8A282AA4C2B3A9E2> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:59:10 -0500 X-Sender: epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: "Roger P. Johnson" > Bummer, I compiled netatalk 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 gcc 2.7.2.1 > and did the install and 'make kinstall'. Here is messages from atalkd > from > /var/adm/messages: > Oct 22 18:19:22 ultra unix: WARNING: ddi_installdrv: no major number > for ddp > Oct 22 18:19:22 ultra unix: WARNING: mod_installdrv: Cannot install ddp > Oct 22 18:19:22 ultra atalkd[485]: I_PUSH: Invalid argument > How do I uninstall all this stuff until something more stable for > Solaris comes out ?? rem_drv ddp rm /usr/kernel/drv/ddp rm /usr/kernel/drv/ddp.conf rm /usr/kernel/strmod/ddp This completely removes the kernel part. The rest should all be in DESTDIR. >From wes@umich.edu, regarding what the messages are a result of: Not sure what the deal is, but it has something to do with /etc/name_to_major. I recall that it works if you do "add_drv ddp", reboot, "rem_drv ddp", "add_drv ddp". Hope this helps, EV AN From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 28 12:12:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA23783; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:12:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id MAA23776; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:12:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id MAA23774; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:12:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id MAA23192; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:05:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199710281705.MAA23192@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: netatalk@umich.edu To: "Olafur Tr. Thorsteinsson" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk on Digital OSF/1 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:12:27 GMT." Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:05:19 -0500 X-Sender: epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: "Olafur Tr. Thorsteinsson" > Does netatalk run on Digital OSF/1? We've done no work here to that end, and don't know of any having been or being done now. EV AN From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 28 12:19:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA24761; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:19:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA24674; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:18:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA05027; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:19:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA04828 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:19:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from cs.columbia.edu (cs.columbia.edu [128.59.16.20]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA04758 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:18:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from renoir.cs.columbia.edu (renoir.cs.columbia.edu [128.59.21.6]) by cs.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA23062 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:18:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bm@localhost) by renoir.cs.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA20024 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:18:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:18:24 -0500 (EST) From: Blair MacIntyre To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] problems with MacOS 8 and netatalk ... Message-ID: X-Windows: Some voids are better left unfilled. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I just joined the list after installing 1.42b2, hoping it would fix the problems I'm having. Basically, if I open a directory on my mac that is exported from Linux via netatalk, it continually refreshes the window (for example, the list view counts up the files as it acquires them, reaches 109 files, falls back down the 73 files, goes slowly back up to 109, and repeats forever) Thi is making it fairly unusable ... the files are constantly moving in the window (list view), lots of cpu time is being spent doing this. Is this a know problem? Is there a workaround? From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 28 12:48:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA27180; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:48:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA27175; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:48:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA21692; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:49:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA21680 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:49:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from shark.sfei.org (shark.sfei.org [204.118.78.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA21575 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:49:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from [204.118.78.9] (salmon.sfei.org [204.118.78.9]) by shark.sfei.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14351; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:49:50 -0800 X-Sender: mike@shark.sfei.org Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:46:46 -0800 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Michael May Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] problems with MacOS 8 and netatalk ... Cc: Blair MacIntyre Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >I just joined the list after installing 1.42b2, hoping it would fix the >problems I'm having. > >Basically, if I open a directory on my mac that is exported from Linux via >netatalk, it continually refreshes the window (for example, the list view >counts up the files as it acquires them, reaches 109 files, falls back >down the 73 files, goes slowly back up to 109, and repeats forever) > >Thi is making it fairly unusable ... the files are constantly moving in >the window (list view), lots of cpu time is being spent doing this. > >Is this a know problem? Is there a workaround? Two fixes: try this patch: >An official patch has been released on the netatalk web pages to fix currently >known problems with netatalk's integration with MacOS8. > >The patch can be found at the following web page: > > http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk/patches/1.4b2/ > >So far, nobody using the patch, including us, has reported any problems >with the >patch. If you find anything, please contact us at: > > netatalk@umich.edu Or asun's latest patch: >i've made a17 available at ftp.u.washington.edu:/public/asun. here's >the relevant urls: > > > ---------------------------- Michael May San Francisco Estuary Institute (510) 231-9539 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Oct 28 16:06:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA11148; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:06:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA11142; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:06:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA24523; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:06:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA24465 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:06:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from comet.connix.com (comet.connix.com [198.69.10.4]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA24196 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:06:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bcoffey@localhost) by comet.connix.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA25166 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:05:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:05:46 -0500 (EST) From: Brendan M Coffey To: netatalk Subject: [netatalk-admins] Unable to read disk? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu All: When trying to access a FileMaker database stored on my fileserver (RedHat 2.0.30, netatalk 1.3.3), FileMaker Pro generates the following error: Sorry, FileMaker is unable to read the disk. Click Retry to try again, or click Quit and copy the file to another disk. (Error -39 at 23866) This error cropped up WHILE the database was open in FileMaker 2.1, and the file is now unopenable (though it is copyable) from any disk. Has anyone run into anything similar? Any ideas? **--------------------------------------------------------------------** Brendan M Coffey | "...what mattered most was what was true, not GlobaLearn, Inc. | merely what would make us feel better." bcoffey@globalearn.org | - Ann Druyan, from the Eiplogue to www.globalearn.org | Carl Sagan's "Billions and Billions" From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 29 03:18:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id DAA12750; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 03:18:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id DAA12746; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 03:18:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id DAA17224; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 03:19:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id DAA17222 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 03:19:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (colossus.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.202]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id DAA17212 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 03:18:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jon@localhost) by colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA04162; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:20:34 +0200 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:20:34 +0200 (SAT) From: John Ostrowick To: Blair MacIntyre cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] problems with MacOS 8 and netatalk ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu i have seen this too, even with 17a ________________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick jon@cs.wits.ac.za Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand 1 Jan Smuts Ave, Johannesburg, South Africa. Senate House 1012 Phone: +27 11 716-3783 Fax: +27 11 339-3513 My web page: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/more/jon/aboutme.html My ftp site: ftp://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za My listserv: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/listservs.html On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, Blair MacIntyre wrote: > I just joined the list after installing 1.42b2, hoping it would fix the > problems I'm having. > > Basically, if I open a directory on my mac that is exported from Linux via > netatalk, it continually refreshes the window (for example, the list view > counts up the files as it acquires them, reaches 109 files, falls back > down the 73 files, goes slowly back up to 109, and repeats forever) > > Thi is making it fairly unusable ... the files are constantly moving in > the window (list view), lots of cpu time is being spent doing this. > > Is this a know problem? Is there a workaround? > > From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 29 03:56:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id DAA13543; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 03:56:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id DAA13538; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 03:56:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA20179; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 03:56:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA20173 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 03:56:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost (tanya.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.16]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id DAA20167 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 03:56:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:24:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Vivek Reply-To: Vivek To: Blair MacIntyre cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] problems with MacOS 8 and netatalk ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, Blair MacIntyre wrote: > Basically, if I open a directory on my mac that is exported from Linux via > netatalk, it continually refreshes the window (for example, the list view > counts up the files as it acquires them, reaches 109 files, falls back > down the 73 files, goes slowly back up to 109, and repeats forever) > > Thi is making it fairly unusable ... the files are constantly moving in > the window (list view), lots of cpu time is being spent doing this. > > Is this a know problem? Is there a workaround? I suspect someone's about to tell you to get asun's patches from. Assuming my brain hasn't melted in the last week or so, and I'm still sane(ish), these should address the MacOS8 problems. -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 29 11:57:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA10345; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:57:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA10336; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA26915; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:57:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA26856 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:56:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from night.primate.wisc.edu (night.primate.wisc.edu [144.92.43.19]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA25735 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:55:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from junkyard@localhost) by night.primate.wisc.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA01952; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:55:31 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19971029105530.27996@night.primate.wisc.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:55:30 -0600 From: Software Development To: John Ostrowick Cc: Blair MacIntyre , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] problems with MacOS 8 and netatalk ... References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.72.1 In-Reply-To: ; from John Ostrowick on Wed, Oct 29, 1997 at 10:20:34AM +0200 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have seen this, too, even *without* netatalk. Specifically, I've had a couple of machine starting exhibiting this behavior when connecting to a SunOS 4.1.1 machine via our GatorBoxes. Both started having the problem when upgraded to MacOS 8. One was a 6400/200, the other an 8500/150. On the other hand, I've got other MacOS 8 machines that don't have the problem at all (e.g., a 9600/300, 7300/180). Dunno what the cause might be, since I don't discern any pattern to the kind of machine it occurs on, other than it's only for MacOS 8 systems. On Wed, Oct 29, 1997 at 10:20:34AM +0200, John Ostrowick wrote: > i have seen this too, even with 17a > > > On Tue, 28 Oct 1997, Blair MacIntyre wrote: > > > I just joined the list after installing 1.42b2, hoping it would fix the > > problems I'm having. > > > > Basically, if I open a directory on my mac that is exported from Linux via > > netatalk, it continually refreshes the window (for example, the list view > > counts up the files as it acquires them, reaches 109 files, falls back > > down the 73 files, goes slowly back up to 109, and repeats forever) > > > > Thi is making it fairly unusable ... the files are constantly moving in > > the window (list view), lots of cpu time is being spent doing this. > > > > Is this a know problem? Is there a workaround? -- Paul DuBois dubois@primate.wisc.edu Home page: http://www.primate.wisc.edu/people/dubois Software: http://www.primate.wisc.edu/software From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 29 13:55:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA14785; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 13:55:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA14781; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 13:55:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id NAA06185; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 13:55:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id NAA06151 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 13:55:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from cm.math.uiuc.edu (cm.math.uiuc.edu [128.174.7.202]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA06110 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 13:55:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kcsmith@localhost) by cm.math.uiuc.edu (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA17015 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 12:55:02 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: cm.math.uiuc.edu: kcsmith owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 12:55:02 -0600 (CST) From: KC Smith X-Sender: kcsmith@cm.math.uiuc.edu To: Netatalk Subject: [netatalk-admins] Pop up window on login? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu We have one Linux machine serving many macs, with guest, read-only access, with netatalk 1-4b2. My question is.. is there some way I can have a configurable pop-up window open up every time a guest connects to the server? I want to use this to remind the users of the rules concerning use of the server. KC Smith kcsmith@uiuc.edu Click Here http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/kcsmith From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 29 14:09:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA15868; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 14:09:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA15860; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 14:09:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA23956; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 14:09:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA23239 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 14:08:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from meraldmail.com (emeraldmail.com [206.251.153.5]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA22630 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 14:07:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mightypc.emeraldmail.com (mightypc.emeraldmail.com [206.251.153.59]) by meraldmail.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA04501 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 12:10:58 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971029110448.006d4dcc@emeraldmail.com> X-Sender: root@emeraldmail.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:04:48 -0800 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: James Chelin Subject: [netatalk-admins] FreeBSD... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have been using Netatalk 1.4b2 with FreeBSD 2.2.2 for a few weeks now.. I have like 5 people always connected using it, and it works pretty good.. However I have tried to connect more MAC's than that, and after like 6 it wont let me connect anymore.. If someone could help tell me where to look I would greatly appreciate it.. Also, I was wondering if it would be worth upgrading my 1.4b2 to 1.4b2+asun17?? Most of the stuff I have seen refers to changes for system 8.. All my macs use system 7.. opinions? Thanks, James Chelin From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 29 14:54:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA19294; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 14:54:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA19284; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 14:54:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA11978; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 14:54:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA11926 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 14:54:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA11459 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 14:54:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id LAA23018; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:53:55 -0800 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:53:55 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: James Chelin cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] FreeBSD... In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971029110448.006d4dcc@emeraldmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 29 Oct 1997, James Chelin wrote: > > I have been using Netatalk 1.4b2 with FreeBSD 2.2.2 for a few weeks now.. > I have like 5 people always connected using it, and it works pretty good.. > However I have tried to connect more MAC's than that, and after like 6 it > wont let me connect anymore.. If someone could help tell me where to look > I would greatly appreciate it.. man afpd will tell you that you need to start afpd with the -c max_number_of_conections option to have more than 5 users. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 29 15:52:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA23162; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:52:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id PAA23150; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id PAA23148; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:51:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA22720; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:46:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199710292046.PAA22720@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: evan.cordes@umich.edu To: Blair MacIntyre cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] problems with MacOS 8 and netatalk ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:18:24 EST." Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:46:45 -0500 X-Sender: epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Blair MacIntyre > I just joined the list after installing 1.42b2, hoping it would fix the > problems I'm having. > Thi is making it fairly unusable ... the files are constantly moving in > the window (list view), lots of cpu time is being spent doing this. Please look at the patches pages for 1.4b2 off of: http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk/ Should find what you need. EV AN From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 29 18:28:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA03769; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 18:28:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA03730; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 18:28:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA19129; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 18:28:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA19102 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 18:28:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from anna-atm.rz.uni-frankfurt.de (anna-atm.rz.uni-frankfurt.de [141.2.150.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id PAA16836 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:59:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from server.labor.localnet (actually NAFp1-044.rz.uni-frankfurt.de) by anna-atm.rz.uni-frankfurt.de with Local SMTP (PP); Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:58:10 +0000 Message-ID: <3457A2C5.7438FC8D@em.uni-frankfurt.de> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:55:33 +0100 From: "Robert O'Kane" Organization: OTHERSPACE X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.31 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] a17 compile problem (+fix) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Greetings, There is a mis-configuration in the Makefile for libatalk/dsi. This is present with the a16-a17.diff AND the 1.4b2-a17.diff.... The dependency in line 28 of dsilib dsilib_p : profiled ${OBJ} profiled should be.... dsilib dsilib_p : profiled ${OBJ} otherwise the profiled directory is not made 'in time'. Linux 2.0.30pre10 Make 3.75 Bob. -- ---------------------------------------------- Unfortunatly, I find language (like politics) necessary for humans. Leider finde Ich Sprache (wie Politik) fuer die Menschen notwendig. ---------------------------------------------- Robert O'Kane Kunstlergruppe OTHERSPACE Founding Member and Linker URL : http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~okane email: okane@em.uni-frankfurt.de ---------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 29 18:40:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA05056; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 18:40:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA05048; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 18:40:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA25321; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 18:41:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA25293 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 18:41:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from Radar.Catch22.COM (radar.catch22.com [204.62.130.34] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA25279 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 18:41:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from Radar.Catch22.COM (james@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Radar.Catch22.COM (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA07561 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:02:11 -0800 Message-Id: <199710292302.PAA07561@Radar.Catch22.COM> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris-2.5.1+Netatalk-1.4b2+gcc-2.7.2.3 Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:02:11 -0800 From: James Dornan Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have seen this posted before, and having located no solution in the archives, I'm asking one more time. I cannot see any files in folders mounted from the Sun machine. How can this be corrected? I was also wonderring when there might be a new version of the Solaris kernel modules? Thanks for everything, mostly the free software. -- james dornan From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Oct 29 18:45:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA05818; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 18:45:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA05809; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 18:45:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA27370; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 18:46:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA27368 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 18:46:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from anna-atm.rz.uni-frankfurt.de (anna-atm.rz.uni-frankfurt.de [141.2.150.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id SAA27363 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 18:46:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from server.labor.localnet (actually NAFp1-094.rz.uni-frankfurt.de) by anna-atm.rz.uni-frankfurt.de with Local SMTP (PP); Thu, 30 Oct 1997 00:44:57 +0000 Message-ID: <3457C556.66AF5437@em.uni-frankfurt.de> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 00:23:02 +0100 From: "Robert O'Kane" Organization: OTHERSPACE X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.31 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: a17 compile problem (+fix) 2nd try.... References: <3457A2C5.7438FC8D@em.uni-frankfurt.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sorry, I HATE 'cut and paste' don't you? Robert O'Kane wrote: > > Greetings, > > There is a mis-configuration in the Makefile for libatalk/dsi. > This is present with the a16-a17.diff AND the 1.4b2-a17.diff.... > > The dependency in line 28 of > dsilib dsilib_p : profiled ${OBJ} profiled (Ahem...) I meant : dsilib dsilib_p : ${OBJ} profiled > > should be.... > > dsilib dsilib_p : profiled ${OBJ} > > otherwise the profiled directory is not made 'in time'. > > Linux 2.0.30pre10 > Make 3.75 > Bob. -- ---------------------------------------------- Unfortunatly, I find language (like politics) necessary for humans. Leider finde Ich Sprache (wie Politik) fuer die Menschen notwendig. ---------------------------------------------- Robert O'Kane Kunstlergruppe OTHERSPACE Founding Member and Linker URL : http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~okane email: okane@em.uni-frankfurt.de ---------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 30 14:51:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA02623; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:51:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA02610; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:51:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA08237; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA08207 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:51:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from homer.bethel.edu (homer.acs.bethel.edu [140.88.128.6]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA07340 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:50:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (turing.acs.bethel.edu [140.88.5.23]) by homer.bethel.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA23974 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:50:07 -0600 (CST) Received: by turing (NX5.67e) id AA02188; Thu, 30 Oct 97 13:50:02 -0600 Message-Id: <9710301950.AA02188@turing> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: "Brad G. Parks" Date: Thu, 30 Oct 97 13:49:31 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Determining AppleShare address Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu My logfile shows the following: afpd[4310]: ASIP session:548(7) from 140.88.5.54:2049(1) Is there any way to determine the AppleShare address of the machine with that IP ? (So I can match up the address papd gives me). If there is no other way, I could disallow AppleShare over IP connections to get the address; but will that degrade the performance? I plan to add utmp/wtmp-ish capability, anyone else worked on that? (I'm running 1.4b2+asun2.0a17 on Solaris 2.5.1 and have a strong background in C & Unix and am willing to hack code) -brad --- Brad G. Parks bparks@bethel.edu "But I was going to Tashi station to pick up some power converters!" From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Oct 30 17:13:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA13837; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 17:13:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA13833; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 17:13:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA15739; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 17:13:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA15678 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 17:13:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from jots1.ca.metsci.com (jots1.ca.metsci.com [199.106.147.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id RAA15545 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 17:13:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomcat.ca.metsci.com by jots1.ca.metsci.com with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA11083; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:12:45 -0800 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:12:31 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Solmssen To: Netatalk List , ost Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] make probelm In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I finally got this to compile (with many warnings) on a pretty vanilla Red Hat 4.2 system by changing sys/linux/Makefile from: #-DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER DEFS= to: DEFS= -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER I don't know why this worked, but it did. ---- Andrew On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, ost wrote: > this was already discussed once. > i get an sys/quota.h No such file or directory though i ve uncommented > -DNEEDQUOTACTL_WRAPPER as told below. > i guess i shouldnt copy linux/quota.h to sys/quota.h because when i do i > just get another compile error. > all this with 1.4b2+asun-patches and 2.0.29.linuts. > i compile with DEFS = -DSHADOWPW > further hints? > thx. > oswald > > On Fri, 5 Sep 1997, Christopher Ptacek wrote: > > > I'm getting a "sys/quota.h No such file or directory" error in my > compile. > > Any idea's? > > > > If you are running under Linux, you'll need to edit > /netatalk/sys/linux/Makefile and uncomment: > > -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER" > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > A N T I M E M O R Y L E A K I N G U P D A T E . > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 31 20:47:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA26407; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:47:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id UAA26403; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:47:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA04805; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:47:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA04796 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:47:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from argonaut.w3-design.com (argonaut.w3-design.com [209.85.7.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA04784 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:47:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from w3-design.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA19063 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 17:48:05 -0800 Message-ID: <345A8A55.AA786060@w3-design.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 17:48:05 -0800 From: Jeff Wiegley Organization: W3-design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.31 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Printing setup doesn't seem to function at all... References: <199710292046.PAA22720@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Apologies for not even being able to get started with printing but the netatalk documentation on the subject is almost non-existant and the printing-HOWTO page is on a foreign site which never seems to be reachable and the printing pages on the domestic site are gone... We have netatalk and samba working flawlessly here and my bosses are/were quite pleased until... "Hey, we can't print..." so now I'm quickly trying to get printing up and running and what I have so far is /etc/printcap... admin|Admin LaserWriter on AppleTalk:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/admin:\ :lp=/var/spool/lpd/admin/null:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/appletalk/admin-errs:\ :sh:\ :mx#0:\ :of=/usr/bin/pap: production|Production LaserWriter on AppleTalk:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/production:\ :lp=/var/spool/lpd/production/null:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/appletalk/production-errs:\ :sh:\ :mx#0:\ :of=/usr/bin/pap: but I haven't tested any "lpr -Pproduction " things yet because appearantly pap isn't working... [root@server lpd]# pap -p admin testpage.ps admin:LaserWriter@*: NBP Lookup failed [root@server lpd]# pap -p Admin testpage.ps Admin:LaserWriter@*: NBP Lookup failed and we *do* have an appletalk printer named "Admin". so it seems that our server cannot see any of the appletalk devices because... [root@server nbp]# nbplkup server:AFPServer 65280.123:128 server:netatalk 65280.123:4 server:Workstation 65280.123:4 and that's it. no printers listed, no other macs listed and we must have at least a dozen macs floating around here. checking the appleshare under another mac's chooser shows 5 different machines including the server. what have I screwed up so bad that the server doesn't be able to see in the direction of the clients but the clients can all see and use the server? Any ideas? - Jeff Wiegley From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Oct 31 21:14:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA27214; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 21:14:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA27209; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 21:14:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id VAA18023; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 21:15:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id VAA18015 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 21:15:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from argonaut.w3-design.com (argonaut.w3-design.com [209.85.7.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA18006 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 21:15:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from w3-design.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA19189 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 18:14:58 -0800 Message-ID: <345A90A2.7BAE449F@w3-design.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 18:14:58 -0800 From: Jeff Wiegley Organization: W3-design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.31 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] YIKES!! SMC doesn't work with netatalk... really?? References: <199710292046.PAA22720@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> <345A8A55.AA786060@w3-design.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Still trying to pursue my printing problem. Is this maybe the cause of my sorrows... >From the linux printing HOWTO... 11.4. To an EtherTalk (Apple) printer The netatalk package includes something like nprint and smbclient. Others have documented the procedure for printing to and from an Apple network far better than I ever will; see the Linux Netatalk-HOWTO . Obscure caveat of the week: Netatalk does not work with SMC Etherpower PCI Card with a DEC tulip chip. the obscure caveat is what I'm worried about because, of course, I have an EtherPower card based on the DEC 21140 tulip chip. Is this what is causing my netatalk server to be incapable of seeing other appletalk equipment in the default zone? - Jeff Wiegley From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Nov 1 00:19:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id AAA02105; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 00:19:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id AAA02101; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 00:19:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA20095; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 00:19:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA20092 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 00:19:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate.metricom.com (rgate.metricom.com [204.179.143.6]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id AAA20085 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 00:19:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.103] (c204500-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com [24.1.67.221]) by rgate.metricom.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA11074; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 23:22:04 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199711010522.XAA11074@rgate.metricom.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] YIKES!! SMC doesn't work with netatalk... really?? Date: Fri, 31 Oct 97 21:19:46 -0800 x-sender: zarzycki@pop.ricochet.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Dave Zarzycki To: "Jeff Wiegley" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On 10/31/97 6:14 PM, Jeff Wiegley (jeff@w3-design.com) wrote: >the obscure caveat is what I'm worried about because, of course, I >have an EtherPower card based on the DEC 21140 tulip chip. Is this >what is causing my netatalk server to be incapable of seeing other >appletalk equipment in the default zone? The caveat (for the DEC tulip based cards) is that the driver has difficulties with multicast. Upgrade to a newer kernel, and/or upgrade the tulip driver explicitly. Or you could force the card into promiscuous mode (not ideal or recommended, but it works). It's not that bad. davez ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Zarzycki Student Intern San Jose State University Apple Computer, Inc. dzarzyck@email.sjsu.edu zarzycki@apple.com zarzycki@ricochet.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP Fingerprints (RSA): 8AF2 1040 8A9C D025 47BE 70DD A51C C887 DSS/Diffie-Hellman: CB9E 2621 B4BA 3F96 3516 B312 15B4 D842 3809 EF99 Contact pgpkeys.mit.edu for my public keys. From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Nov 1 07:50:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA23270; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 07:50:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA23264; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 07:50:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA00783; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 07:50:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA00779 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 07:50:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at (germ2.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA00767 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 07:50:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from buster.retti.at (internet@dialin1-rz.uibk.ac.at [138.232.1.81]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.7/8.8.6 (l 2)) with ESMTP id OAA12835; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 14:48:36 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (m610.retti.at [192.168.0.13]) by buster.retti.at (8.8.3/8.8.3 (GR v 1.1)) with ESMTP id MAA07482; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 12:59:48 +0100 Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 12:59:48 +0100 X-Sender: gregor@mail.retti.at Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Brendan M Coffey , netatalk From: Gregor Retti Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Unable to read disk? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 16:05 Uhr -0500 28.10.1997, Brendan M Coffey wrote: >All: > >When trying to access a FileMaker database stored on my fileserver >(RedHat 2.0.30, netatalk 1.3.3), FileMaker Pro generates the following >error: > >Sorry, FileMaker is unable to read the disk. >Click Retry to try again, or click Quit and copy >the file to another disk. (Error -39 at 23866) > >This error cropped up WHILE the database was open in FileMaker 2.1, >and the file is now unopenable (though it is copyable) from any >disk. > >Has anyone run into anything similar? Any ideas? > I encountered a similar problem with HyperCard stacks after the mac, which had them opened, crashed. Making a copy and removing the unopenable file solved the problem though. (linux 2.0.30, netatalkt 1.4b2) greetings gregor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ----------- http://germanistik.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Nov 1 07:50:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA23289; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 07:50:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA23259; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 07:50:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id HAA05786; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 07:51:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id HAA05784 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 07:51:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at (germ2.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA05780 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 07:50:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from buster.retti.at (internet@dialin1-rz.uibk.ac.at [138.232.1.81]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.7/8.8.6 (l 2)) with ESMTP id OAA12831; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 14:48:28 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (m610.retti.at [192.168.0.13]) by buster.retti.at (8.8.3/8.8.3 (GR v 1.1)) with ESMTP id MAA07483; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 12:59:50 +0100 Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 12:59:50 +0100 X-Sender: gregor@mail.retti.at Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: KC Smith , Netatalk From: Gregor Retti Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Pop up window on login? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 12:55 Uhr -0600 29.10.1997, KC Smith wrote: >We have one Linux machine serving many macs, with guest, read-only access, >with netatalk 1-4b2. My question is.. is there some way I can have a >configurable pop-up window open up every time a guest connects to the >server? I want to use this to remind the users of the rules concerning use >of the server. > You could use AppleScript for that: 1) Make a simple script, displaying the information. Place it on the server. Make an alias and copy the alias over to the Mac. Anyway this might not work form time to time because of aliases beeing disconnected from their originals an a afpd-server. 2) Make use of the MoundVolume extension to mount the server volume(s) and display your message. regards gregor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ----------- http://germanistik.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Nov 1 13:07:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA28322; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 13:07:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from engine1.firstnet.com.jo ([194.244.8.254] (may be forged)) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA28317; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 13:07:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from default ([194.244.8.139]) by engine1.firstnet.com.jo (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA13050 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 19:42:45 +0300 Message-ID: <345BA19F.4E64@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 19:39:43 -0200 From: Amjad Zamil Reply-To: zamil@hotmail.com Organization: S.T.S X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk for Solaris 2.x Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi Where can I find a ftp site to dowload Netatalk source or compiled to run under Solaris 2.x .I do have the version for SunOS but I badly need the Solaris 2.x version. B. Regards A. Zamil From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Nov 2 20:32:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA17596; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 20:32:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id UAA17589; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 20:32:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA07384; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 20:32:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA07369 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 20:32:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.monsterboard.com.au ([203.0.37.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA07310 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 20:32:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from paulw@localhost) by www.monsterboard.com.au (8.8.2/8.8.2) id MAA04538; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:31:56 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:31:56 +1100 (EST) From: Paul Wilkins To: Jeff Wiegley cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] YIKES!! SMC doesn't work with netatalk... really?? In-Reply-To: <345A90A2.7BAE449F@w3-design.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've got an SMC EtherPower 10/100 21140 Running Linux 2.0.30 with netatalk just peachy. I use the DE4x5 driver. Maybe give this driver a go. Paul On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Jeff Wiegley wrote: > Still trying to pursue my printing problem. Is this maybe the > cause of my sorrows... > > >From the linux printing HOWTO... > > 11.4. To an EtherTalk (Apple) printer > > The netatalk package includes something like nprint and smbclient. > Others have documented the procedure for printing to and from an Apple > network far better than I ever will; see the Linux Netatalk-HOWTO > . > > Obscure caveat of the week: Netatalk does not work with SMC Etherpower > PCI Card with a DEC tulip chip. > > the obscure caveat is what I'm worried about because, of course, I > have an EtherPower card based on the DEC 21140 tulip chip. Is this > what is causing my netatalk server to be incapable of seeing other > appletalk equipment in the default zone? > > - Jeff Wiegley > TTT M M M PPP T MMMMM PPPP T M M M P Disclaimer: The views herein expressed do not necessarily reflect those of TMP Worldwide or its affiliated companies. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 3 07:11:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA00878; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 07:11:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.144.15]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA00211; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 07:10:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id GAA23734 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 06:30:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA10884; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 06:29:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA10882 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 06:29:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from bert.ds.fh-koeln.de (bert.DS.FH-Koeln.DE [139.6.141.251]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA10864 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 06:29:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from pc01.cf.de (c4500-1-c15.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.125.143]) by bert.ds.fh-koeln.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA06342; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 13:28:45 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971103122826.00cf2db0@wallace.khm.de> X-Sender: owrede@wallace.khm.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 12:28:26 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, LINUX-ATALK@NETSPACE.ORG From: Oliver Wrede Subject: [netatalk-admins] asun2.0a17 and shadow password? Cc: wombat@ds.fh-koeln.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi how can I compile the asun2.0a17 patch with shadow password support? I did not find anything in the READMEs and the alternative auth.c for the regular 1.4b2 version does not seem to compile.... Thanks. Oliver --- . Oliver Wrede . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . owrede@ds.fh-koeln.de . . tel. +49 2203 913 200 . office +49 221 9522 601 . fax +49 221 9522 605 . . School of Design, University of Applied Science, Cologne . . . . . . . . . . http://www.ds.fh-koeln.de/~owrede/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 3 08:09:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA04068; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:09:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA04064; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:09:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA22315; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:09:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA22310 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:09:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from homer.mir.com.my (homer.mir.com.my [202.186.33.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA22288 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:09:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.195] (god.mir.com.my [192.168.1.195]) by homer.mir.com.my (8.8.7/8.8.5/PIH) with SMTP id VAA11749; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 21:14:53 +0800 Message-Id: <199711031314.VAA11749@homer.mir.com.my> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] asun2.0a17 and shadow password? Date: Mon, 3 Nov 97 21:22:03 +0800 x-sender: yeak@mail.mir.com.my x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: Yeak Nai Siew To: "Oliver Wrede" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Go to sys/ directory where is linux, freebsd, etc. Edit Makefile to include "-DSHADOWPW" under DEFS= line. For Linux, it is the 3rd line from the top. > > >Hi > >how can I compile the asun2.0a17 patch with shadow password support? > >I did not find anything in the READMEs and the alternative auth.c >for the regular 1.4b2 version does not seem to compile.... > > -- Yeak Nai Siew << Macintosh Forever >> Director, MIR Communications Sdn Bhd http://www.mir.com.my/ Creator of Mac Power User Group http://www.mir.com.my/mpug/ Fingerprint @_pgp_@ 3A6D 05D3 A3CE B8B7 20C3 CD63 DE82 732D From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 3 08:23:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA05065; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:23:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA05059; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:23:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA27499; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:24:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA27489 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:24:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA27441 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:23:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA25205; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 13:22:56 GMT Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 13:22:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: James Chelin cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] FreeBSD... In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971029110448.006d4dcc@emeraldmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu man afpd: -c maxconnections Specifies the maximum number of connections to allow for this afpd. The default is 5. On Wed, 29 Oct 1997, James Chelin wrote: > > I have been using Netatalk 1.4b2 with FreeBSD 2.2.2 for a few weeks now.. > I have like 5 people always connected using it, and it works pretty good.. > However I have tried to connect more MAC's than that, and after like 6 it > wont let me connect anymore.. If someone could help tell me where to look > I would greatly appreciate it.. > > Also, I was wondering if it would be worth upgrading my 1.4b2 to > 1.4b2+asun17?? Most of the stuff I have seen refers to changes for system > 8.. All my macs use system 7.. opinions? > > > Thanks, > > James Chelin > -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 3 09:12:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA06984; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:12:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA06977; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:12:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id JAA17711; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:13:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id JAA17700 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:13:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from homer.mir.com.my (homer.mir.com.my [202.186.33.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA17660 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:13:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.195] (god.mir.com.my [192.168.1.195]) by homer.mir.com.my (8.8.7/8.8.5/PIH) with SMTP id WAA11876 Mon, 3 Nov 1997 22:18:43 +0800 Message-Id: <199711031418.WAA11876@homer.mir.com.my> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Linux 2.0.31 + 1.4b2+asun2.0a17 + Zone setup Date: Mon, 3 Nov 97 22:25:52 +0800 x-sender: yeak@mail.mir.com.my x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: Yeak Nai Siew To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Cannot start atalkd to define zone or use -seed. I guess this is a bug. Because it is fine on 1.4b2, but not +asun2.0a17. I installed the clean Slackware 3.4 with 2.0.30 kernel, and later upgrade it to 2.0.31. I applied the patch "2.0.30.diff" as well. Patch worked fine. The sys/linux/Makefile was edited to add: DEFS= -DNEED_QUOTACTL_WRAPPER -DSHADOWPW Initially I have compilation problem because I don't have tcpd.h header file for TCP WRAPPER. I got it from the Slackware source package. After copied that to /usr/include, it has no problem to compile. I don't use PAM, Keberos, and DES. So I commented them. When I started netatalk from rc.atalk file, it was okay initially. I do "ps ax", I can see atalkd is running. The "ifconfig" also shows Ethernet Phase 2 on eth0 and eth1 with the right AppleTalk addresses. PROBLEM: After I modified the atalkd.conf to add -seed and -zone parameter, and restart the Linux box, atalkd has problem to start up. It quits by itself without writting anything to syslog. The nbplkup doesn't show anything. No error reported as well. Trying to run afpd or papd will only cause "Connection Timeout". "ps ax" show no sign of atalkd is running. But "ifconfig" shows EtherTalk running with Phase 2. Any idea why? I believe I have done all the necessary configuration. I read REAME, README.LINUX. Even copied services.atalk again to the /etc/services file. What else I missing? Concept of AppleShare IP? The Macs I have are running MacOS 8 and MacOS 7.6.1. This should not be the source of problem. Thanks. -- Yeak Nai Siew << Macintosh Forever >> Director, MIR Communications Sdn Bhd http://www.mir.com.my/ Creator of Mac Power User Group http://www.mir.com.my/mpug/ Fingerprint @_pgp_@ 3A6D 05D3 A3CE B8B7 20C3 CD63 DE82 732D From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 3 12:17:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA15075; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:17:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA15069; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:17:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA08510; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:18:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA08454 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:18:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [198.7.0.32]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA08255 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:17:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from elf.local.dom (dfoster.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.216]) by mail1.panix.com (8.8.5/8.7.1/PanixM1.0) with SMTP id MAA01718 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:17:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by elf.local.dom with Microsoft Mail id <01BCE852.3982D890@elf.local.dom>; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:15:50 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCE852.3982D890@elf.local.dom> From: David Foster To: "'Netatalk Admins'" Subject: [netatalk-admins] New AppleShare Client supports large volumes? Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:15:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu There's a new appleshare client (3.7.2) on the apple ftp sites. It's = supposed to support >4G volumes in the finder under OS8. Has anyone = tried this with asuns large volume patches? It also connects via tcp/ip by default, which is nice. David Foster dfoster@panix.com From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 3 12:19:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA15224; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:19:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA15204; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:19:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA09611; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:19:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA09585 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:19:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [198.7.0.32]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA09461 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:18:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from elf.local.dom (dfoster.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.216]) by mail1.panix.com (8.8.5/8.7.1/PanixM1.0) with SMTP id MAA01850 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:19:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by elf.local.dom with Microsoft Mail id <01BCE852.7321D290@elf.local.dom>; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:17:27 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCE852.7321D290@elf.local.dom> From: David Foster To: "'Netatalk Admins'" Subject: [netatalk-admins] Where is afp 2.2 spec? Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:17:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is the afp 2.2, afpovertcp specification publicly available someplace? = I've looked in the standard places (i.e., devworld.apple.com and = appleshareip.apple.com) but can't find it. Thanks, David Foster dfoster@panix.com From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 3 13:51:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA23784; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 13:51:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA23778; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 13:51:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA04963; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 13:51:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA04897 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 13:51:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from argonaut.w3-design.com (argonaut.w3-design.com [209.85.7.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA04859 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 13:51:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from w3-design.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA32132 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 10:52:06 -0800 Message-ID: <345E1D56.4544F7EC@w3-design.com> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 10:52:06 -0800 From: Jeff Wiegley Organization: W3-design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.31 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk Subject: [netatalk-admins] Sticky bits in directories and Macs creating new folders... References: <199710222118146111690M@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu A small netatalk question... Our new server is working perfectly but there is one small item... We have several different groups in which all the files should belong and the entire subtree should be sharable by all members of the group. On all directories we have the permissions set to drwsrws--- in the assumption that any files created under these directories should inherit the group from the directory due to the sticky bits. This works except for the case were a mac user creates a new folder. New folders get created with the owner/group of the creator and not of the parent directory. Then any people dumping files in this directory cannot be read by others. What should be done differently to get all the files to be sharable by the groups? - Jeff Wiegley From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 3 16:24:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA01958; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 16:24:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA01950; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 16:24:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA08941; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 16:24:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA08911 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 16:24:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from schubert.promo.de (schubert.Promo.DE [194.45.188.65]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA08844 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 16:24:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA22757; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 22:22:09 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BCE852.7321D290@elf.local.dom> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 22:24:12 +0100 To: David Foster , "'Netatalk Admins'" From: Stefan Bethke Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Where is afp 2.2 spec? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 18:17 Uhr +0100 03.11.1997, David Foster wrote: >Is the afp 2.2, afpovertcp specification publicly available someplace? >I've looked in the standard places (i.e., devworld.apple.com and >appleshareip.apple.com) but can't find it. Not too closely, I would think: http://appleshareip.apple.com/appleshareip/text/pdf/afp_2.2_specification.pdf The link is on http://appleshareip.apple.com/appleshareip/text/techinfo.html Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-0 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 3 17:31:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA04625; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:31:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA04618; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:31:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA18405; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:31:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA18249 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:30:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from argonaut.w3-design.com (argonaut.w3-design.com [209.85.7.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA18214 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:30:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from w3-design.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00542 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:31:59 -0800 Message-ID: <345E50DF.F025F308@w3-design.com> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 14:31:59 -0800 From: Jeff Wiegley Organization: W3-design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.31 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'Netatalk Admins'" Subject: [netatalk-admins] semi-complete failure of nbplkup and netatalk... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Darn it! Netatalk will *not* work properly on my server! I have: Linux kernel 2.0.29 + ISS patches for TCP improvements latest version of DEC tulip driver for my SMC EtherPower 10/100 card. netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17 CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST=y everything is up and running almost correctly... Mac users can see and use the directories provided by netatalk so file sharing seems to be working perfectly. my problem is this: [server prompt]# getzones atp_rresp: Connection timed out and [server prompt]# nbplkup everclear:AFPServer 65280.115:130 everclear:LaserWriter 65280.115:128 everclear:netatalk 65280.115:4 everclear:Workstation 65280.115:4 why does my netatalk server fail to see *all* the other appletalk objects? there are at least three printers and two other appletalk servers that should show up but don't. I've talked to Donald Becker about the multicasting with the tulip drivers and he says that multicasting in the newest tulip drivers is 100% reliable now and indicates that most probably the problem lies with netatalk and not the tulip driver. PLEASE help me figure out what is wrong with my setup so I can get printers working. But until I can actually see the printer object using nbplkup I can't even proceed to step 3 of the Netatalk Printing howto and I now have something like 20 people here at my office that thinks linux sucks because we can't print from it. How can I better track down what is working incorrectly and fix it? - Jeff Wiegley From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 3 17:34:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA04909; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:34:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA04884; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:34:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA20658; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:35:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA20637 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:35:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from argonaut.w3-design.com (argonaut.w3-design.com [209.85.7.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA20570 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:35:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from w3-design.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00560 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:35:36 -0800 Message-ID: <345E51B8.D168B4E6@w3-design.com> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 14:35:36 -0800 From: Jeff Wiegley Organization: W3-design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.31 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'Netatalk Admins'" Subject: [netatalk-admins] [Fwd: tulip multicast and netatalk?] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------DD6C795784CFF09BB9BF78C1" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DD6C795784CFF09BB9BF78C1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well Donald seemd to indicate that the problem is with Netatalk so I figured I pass along his ideas so that somebody more familiar with the inner workings of netatalk could help confirm or deny his opinions so that I can get to the bottom of my problems. - Jeff Wiegley --------------DD6C795784CFF09BB9BF78C1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from www2.w3-design.com (www2.w3-design.com [206.83.161.164]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00419 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:04:53 -0800 Received: from cesdis (new.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.38.51]) by www2.w3-design.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA13742 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:05:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by cesdis (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08204; Mon, 3 Nov 97 14:32:01 EST Received: from beowulf.gsfc.nasa.gov by cesdis (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08197; Mon, 3 Nov 97 14:31:48 EST Received: by beowulf.gsfc.nasa.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07101; Mon, 3 Nov 97 14:37:32 EST Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:37:30 -0500 (EST) From: Donald Becker X-Sender: becker@beowulf To: Jeff Wiegley Cc: linux-tulip@cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov Subject: Re: tulip multicast and netatalk? In-Reply-To: <345E21DE.D0CC7212@w3-design.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-tulip@cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov Precedence: bulk On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Jeff Wiegley wrote: > Subject: tulip multicast and netatalk? > > Just having a little prroblem with netatalk and the netatalk people > indicate that it is a tulip driver problem. Every single Linux driver that uses a multicast filter (as opposed to Rx-all-multicast when any multicast packets are desired) seems to be having a problem with netatalk. Since they all use different multicast filter schemes, I'm starting to think it's a problem with netatalk, not a problem with my drivers. > I asked the question on the netatalk mailing list about why this is > so and received this reply... > > > The caveat (for the DEC tulip based cards) is that the driver has > > difficulties with multicast. Upgrade to a newer kernel, and/or upgrade > > the tulip driver explicitly. Or you could force the card into promiscuous > > mode (not ideal or recommended, but it works). It's not that bad. Ask them about the EEPro100 driver then... it seems to have problems with multicast as well. And it computes the multicast filter internally, so the driver could only pass a corrupt multicast address list. > Is this true? how do I fix it? I am using the > > "tulip.c:v0.83 10/19/97 becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov" > > driver version with kernel version 2.0.29+ISS patch. > > Other than that I can't quite figure out how to get promiscuous mode > enabled and I can't figure out why this would be good/bad. A patch is to always turn on the Rx-all-multicast flag: In set_multicast_list(): printk(KERN_INFO "%s: Promiscuous mode enabled.\n", dev->name); tp->csr6 |= 0xC0; - } else if ((dev->mc_count > 1000) || (dev->flags & IFF_ALLMULTI)) { + } else if ((dev->mc_count > 0) || (dev->flags & IFF_ALLMULTI)) { /* Too many to filter perfectly -- accept all multicasts. */ outl(csr6 | 0x0080, ioaddr + CSR6); This is evil, and wastes the *excellent* multicast filter of the Tulip, but.. Donald Becker becker@cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov USRA-CESDIS, Center of Excellence in Space Data and Information Sciences. Code 930.5, Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, MD. 20771 301-286-0882 http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/people/becker/whoiam.html --------------DD6C795784CFF09BB9BF78C1-- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 3 19:09:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA10583; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:09:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA10569; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:09:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id TAA16602; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:10:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id TAA16583 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:09:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from jots1.ca.metsci.com (jots1.ca.metsci.com [199.106.147.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id TAA16557 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:09:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomcat.ca.metsci.com by jots1.ca.metsci.com with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA08018; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 16:09:20 -0800 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 16:08:32 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Solmssen To: Netatalk List Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] semi-complete failure of nbplkup and netatalk... In-Reply-To: <345E50DF.F025F308@w3-design.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Jeff - These symptoms are very similar to the ones I was having, although I have a 3com 3c905 card. I solved this by changing the one seed router (a Shiva LanRover) on my net to seed a net range of 10000-10010 instead of 10000-10000. Do you have any kind of Appletalk router on your net? What net ranges are you using? ---- Andrew --------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Solmssen Network Manager solmssen@ca.metsci.com Metron, Inc. 619-792-8904 512 Via de la Valle, Ste. 301 619-792-2719 FAX Solana Beach, CA 92075 On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Jeff Wiegley wrote: > [server prompt]# nbplkup > everclear:AFPServer 65280.115:130 > everclear:LaserWriter 65280.115:128 > everclear:netatalk 65280.115:4 > everclear:Workstation 65280.115:4 > > why does my netatalk server fail to see *all* the other appletalk > objects? > From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 3 20:31:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA13347; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 20:31:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id UAA13340; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 20:31:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA15681; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 20:31:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA15677 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 20:31:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from argonaut.w3-design.com (argonaut.w3-design.com [209.85.7.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA15664 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 20:31:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from w3-design.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00477; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:30:31 -0800 Message-ID: <345E7AB7.CE00AC17@w3-design.com> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 17:30:31 -0800 From: Jeff Wiegley Organization: W3-design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.29-ISS i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Donald Becker CC: Netatalk List Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: tulip device driver and netatalk? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Donald, Here's an interesting note that might shed some light on my netatalk problem. I Have two nearly identical machines running 2.0.29+ISS and your latest tulip.c driver. (v0.83 I believe) one machine has an SMC EtherPower 10/100 (DC21140) card. the other machine has an SMC EhterPower 10 (DS21041) card. both have the latest netatalk source + the asun17 patch which makes things quite up to date. The DS21041 card works perfectly using the tulip driver the DC21140 card works perfectly using the de4x5 driver but fails to work with the tulip driver, even if allmulti and/or promicuous mode is enabled. by works perfectly I mean that `nbplkup` sees all the appletalk object on the network. In the case of the DC21140+tulip driver filesharing works ok but `nbplkup` only sees the netatalk server and no other machines. Do you (or anybody on the netatalk mailing list who've been cc'ed here) have any idea on what is the difficulty? I would rather be using the tulip driver for these cards since they in general better drivers I believe. - Jeff Wiegley From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 3 21:40:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA15942; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 21:40:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA15938; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 21:40:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA15786; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 21:40:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA15775 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 21:40:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from anna-atm.rz.uni-frankfurt.de (anna-atm.rz.uni-frankfurt.de [141.2.150.5]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id VAA15755 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 21:39:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from server.labor.localnet (actually NAFp1-073.rz.uni-frankfurt.de) by anna-atm.rz.uni-frankfurt.de with Local SMTP (PP); Tue, 4 Nov 1997 03:39:43 +0000 Message-ID: <345E7FDE.30887797@em.uni-frankfurt.de> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 02:52:30 +0100 From: "Robert O'Kane" Organization: OTHERSPACE X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.31 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Wiegley CC: "'Netatalk Admins'" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] [Fwd: tulip multicast and netatalk?] References: <345E51B8.D168B4E6@w3-design.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Greetings, I currently use: 10/100Mb Kingston Card Linux-2.0.30pre10 Tulip .083 driver Netatalk 1.4B + ASUN 17 (tcp) patches no problems.. (10 and 100Mb mode) I will try the 100Mb Full Duplex mode as soon as I figure out how to switch our 3Com Switch ;-) And to see if your in promiscuous mode, look at the output from ifconfig: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:C0:F0:16:69:EC inet addr:192.168.21.21 Bcast:192.168.21.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:65280/44 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:2383664 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1624682 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 coll:1054 Interrupt:9 Base address:0xe880 I beleive the MULTICAST means the card (or this interface) is in promiscuous mode. As for your zone problem.... Netatalk re-writes the '/usr/local/atalk/etc/atalkd.conf' each time it finishes 'negotiating' (sorry for the spelling, its late now...) See / send that to the list also. This has ALOT to do with how the netatalk is seeing your network. I also get the timeout 'notification' on my network but thats because I /we don't use zones here... maybe your apple routers are not correct.(?) Lets, see ;-) Hope that helps.... Bob. Jeff Wiegley wrote: > > Well Donald seemd to indicate that the problem is with Netatalk so I > figured I pass along his ideas so that somebody more familiar with > the inner workings of netatalk could help confirm or deny his > opinions so that I can get to the bottom of my problems. > > - Jeff Wiegley > -- ---------------------------------------------- Unfortunatly, I find language (like politics) necessary for humans. Leider finde Ich Sprache (wie Politik) fuer die Menschen notwendig. ---------------------------------------------- Robert O'Kane Kunstlergruppe OTHERSPACE Founding Member and Linker URL : http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~okane email: okane@em.uni-frankfurt.de ---------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 3 23:35:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id XAA19985; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 23:35:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id XAA19980; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 23:35:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id XAA23377; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 23:35:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id XAA23353 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 23:35:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from thejestr.rutgers.edu (thejestr.rutgers.edu [128.6.209.58]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA23342 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 23:35:36 -0500 (EST) From: TheJEsTR@thejestr.rutgers.edu Received: from jestr (cc295041-a.vron1.nj.home.com [24.3.146.14]) by thejestr.rutgers.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA11797 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 23:29:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199711040429.XAA11797@thejestr.rutgers.edu> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 23:35:03 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] YIKES!! SMC doesn't work with netatalk... References: <345A90A2.7BAE449F@w3-design.com> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, I'm running Redhat 4.2 w/ netatalk 1.4b2 rpm installed. Does Netatalk _not_ work with the tulip driver?? I am using the driver and running netware emulation and samba and obviously tcp/ip. All seem to be working just fine but netatalk does not find any other zones on nbplkup. times out 'atp_rresp: Connection timed out' on getzones and /var/log/messages says: atalkd[268]: config for no router and I know there are several Apple talk routers on our network. if i just put the interface in /etc/atalkd.conf: eth0 it returns random addresses. Latest is: eth0 -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -addr 6644.244 I have edited the /etc/atalkd.conf trying: eth0 -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -zone "CAC-Communication-AlexanderJohnston" "CAC...." is an existing zone that has 2 servers in my building it it. I have tried no atalkd.conf file which again returns random addresses in the atalkd.conf file and doesnt find a router. I have tried changing the /etc/rc.d/init.d/atalk.init file to: ATALK_NAME=@CAC-Communication-AlexanderJohnston and that yeilds a cannot register error. I have not been very successful in finding a lot of documentation on Netatalk so I figured I'd ask. I've been working on this all day today and I'm a bit tired. If I left out any useful info required to assist me please let me know. Thank you. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Nov 4 00:31:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id AAA22663; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 00:31:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id AAA22659; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 00:31:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA07722; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 00:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA07719 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 00:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (colossus.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.202]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id AAA07688 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 00:31:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jon@localhost) by colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA11793; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 07:33:35 +0200 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 07:33:35 +0200 (SAT) From: John Ostrowick To: David Foster cc: "'Netatalk Admins'" Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Where is afp 2.2 spec? In-Reply-To: <01BCE852.7321D290@elf.local.dom> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu ask leland wallace, randall@apple.com. he gave it to me, so i'm sure he'll give it to you. ________________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick jon@cs.wits.ac.za Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand 1 Jan Smuts Ave, Johannesburg, South Africa. Senate House 1012 Phone: +27 11 716-3783 Fax: +27 11 339-3513 My web page: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/more/jon/aboutme.html My ftp site: ftp://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za My listserv: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/listservs.html On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, David Foster wrote: > Is the afp 2.2, afpovertcp specification publicly available someplace? I've looked in the standard places (i.e., devworld.apple.com and appleshareip.apple.com) but can't find it. > > Thanks, > > David Foster > dfoster@panix.com > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Nov 4 01:21:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id BAA24976; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:21:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id BAA24970; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:20:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id BAA10115; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:21:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id BAA10112 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:21:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.panix.com (mail1.panix.com [198.7.0.32]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id BAA10095 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:21:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from elf.local.dom (dfoster.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.216]) by mail1.panix.com (8.8.5/8.7.1/PanixM1.0) with SMTP id BAA26619 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by elf.local.dom with Microsoft Mail id <01BCE8BF.B23A3D10@elf.local.dom>; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:19:28 -0500 Message-ID: <01BCE8BF.B23A3D10@elf.local.dom> From: David Foster To: "'Netatalk Admins'" Subject: RE: [netatalk-admins] Where is afp 2.2 spec? Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 01:19:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Not too closely, I would think: > http://appleshareip.apple.com/appleshareip/text/pdf/afp_2.2_specification.pdf > The link is on http://appleshareip.apple.com/appleshareip/text/techinfo.html Geez, I guess not. I've been to that page many times, and never noticed the pdf link. Must be time for a vacation. Thanks. David Foster dfoster@panix.com From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Nov 4 10:43:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA27010; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA27005; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:43:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA21175; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:43:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA20504 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:42:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (FOCUS.NEUSC.BCM.TMC.EDU [128.249.25.177]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA19792 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:41:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (cf.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu [128.249.25.169]) by focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06069 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 09:41:22 -0600 Message-ID: <345F4226.A7D2D57E@focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 09:41:28 -0600 From: Geoff Ghose Reply-To: geoff@focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu Organization: Baylor College of Medicine/HHMI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] [Fwd: tulip multicast and netatalk?] References: <345E51B8.D168B4E6@w3-design.com> <345E7FDE.30887797@em.uni-frankfurt.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Robert O'Kane wrote: > Greetings, > I currently use: > > 10/100Mb Kingston Card > Linux-2.0.30pre10 > Tulip .083 driver > Netatalk 1.4B + ASUN 17 (tcp) patches > > no problems.. (10 and 100Mb mode) > > Well, with a EEPRO100, I'm still having problems. Linux-2.0.30 Netatalk 1.4B + asun 17 eepro100 v0.35 10/11/97 ifconfig: eth0 Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:C9:60:4A:7B inet addr:128.249.25.177 Bcast:128.249.25.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:172759 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:53637 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 Interrupt:15 Base address:0xff20 I still get nbprgstr errors after updating to latest eepro100 driver: nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out Can't register focus:Workstation@* 2 Notes: 1) At least with the old driver, atalkd was causing broadcast storms which really pissed off every in our department. 2) TCP based AppleShare works beautifully. -- ************************************************************************* Geoff Ghose Div. of Neuroscience One Baylor Plaza S603 Baylor College of Medicine Houston, TX 77030 (713) 798-3277 Fax:(713) 798-3282 Internet: geoff@focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu gghose@bcm.tmc.edu http://focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu/~geoff PGP key: http://focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu/~geoff/pub-pgp-key And what is more, I agree with everything I have just said. - Piet Koornhoff From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Nov 4 13:36:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA04702; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 13:36:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id NAA04698; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 13:36:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id NAA04696; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 13:36:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA04684; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 13:35:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711041835.NAA04684@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: geoff@focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] [Fwd: tulip multicast and netatalk?] In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 04 Nov 1997 09:41:28 CST." <345F4226.A7D2D57E@focus.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 13:35:47 -0500 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Geoff Ghose > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > I still get nbprgstr errors after updating to latest eepro100 driver: > > nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out > Can't register focus:Workstation@* This is unlikely to have anything to do with your ethernet driver. There's a brief exchange between nbprgstr and atalkd, where nbprgstr requests that atalkd register a name, and atalkd sends back an ack. What do you find in your syslog? :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Nov 4 16:50:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA10978; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:50:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA10974; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:50:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA18008; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:50:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA17968 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:50:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from homer.bethel.edu (homer.acs.bethel.edu [140.88.128.6]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA17837 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:50:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (turing.acs.bethel.edu [140.88.5.23]) by homer.bethel.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA07380 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 15:13:37 -0600 (CST) Received: by turing (NX5.67e) id AA05257; Tue, 4 Nov 97 15:11:02 -0600 Message-Id: <9711042111.AA05257@turing> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: "Brad G. Parks" Date: Tue, 4 Nov 97 15:11:01 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] appletalk ddp address question Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've got a simple appletalk ddp address question that I could probably have answered for myself if I hadn't thrown away the last couple references to the spec... oh well, flame me if I'm ignorant: What's the highest range of an Appletalk ddp address? 255.255? -brad From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Nov 4 17:45:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA13105; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:45:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA13088; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:44:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA19310; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:44:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA19305 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:44:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA19292 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:44:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24067 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:24:27 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA27674; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:44:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:44:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711042244.OAA27674@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] a17.1 patchlet Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu i've made available a small patchlet which should help my patches compile under solaris. let me know if it works. it also fixes the use of "real" user names by ignoring unnecessary parts of the gecos field. as always, it's at ftp.u.washington.edu:/public/asun. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Nov 4 21:42:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA21689; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 21:42:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA21684; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 21:42:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id VAA26876; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 21:42:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id VAA26871 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 21:42:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA26862 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 21:42:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id SAA25816; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 18:42:09 -0800 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 18:42:09 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: "Brad G. Parks" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] appletalk ddp address question In-Reply-To: <9711042111.AA05257@turing> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, Brad G. Parks wrote: > > I've got a simple appletalk ddp address question that I could > probably have answered for myself if I hadn't thrown away the > last couple references to the spec... oh well, flame me if > I'm ignorant: > > What's the highest range of an Appletalk ddp address? 255.255? If you break it up as net.node, it's more like 65535.255. 65280 & above are used on phase 2 nets w/o routers. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Nov 4 23:25:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id XAA23885; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:25:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id XAA23877; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:25:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id XAA09767; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:25:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id XAA09759 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:25:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from argonaut.w3-design.com (argonaut.w3-design.com [209.85.7.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA09720 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:25:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from w3-design.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA00433 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 20:24:23 -0800 Message-ID: <345FF4F7.CDC57D5@w3-design.com> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 20:24:23 -0800 From: Jeff Wiegley Organization: W3-design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.29-ISS i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Handling file permissions? References: <199711042244.OAA27674@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu printing and sharing working great with netatalk! But of course the boss comes in today and says... "Why isn't the file permissions working correctly?" My reponse is: "Hey you finally got a file server that stays up longer than 4 hours, live with that much". But alas I don't sign the checks. I have several users all have a unique name and a unique group identical to their username (ala RedHet) additionally I have four more groups of peoples, call these groups A,B,C,D to which multiple people also belong. I have a shared directory structure which belongs to the general group A underneath this I have subdirectories which belong to groups B,C and D. what I want to do is this: if a user creates a new file it should be owned by them but the group should be set to that of the parent directory which the new file belongs to. I accomplished this by changing the permissions of the direcotries to drwsrws--- this should cause new files to be of the proper group and any member of the group should have full access to the file. this is working correctly. however, the problem appears to be that if a user creates a new folder in the directory it is owned/grouped properly but the permissions are set to drwxrwx--- and now if the user create files under this new subdirectory nobody can use them because they are getting the users userid and group and not inheriting the group of the parental structure because the "s" bits aren't set. How does one do file permissions correctly or what are all you other gurus doing to solve this problem? Please enlighten me, I would really love to win this boss over that this *really* is the solution that works. - Jeff Wiegley From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Nov 5 03:08:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id DAA05187; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 03:08:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id DAA05177; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 03:07:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id DAA09266; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 03:08:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id DAA09260 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 03:08:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from ogbl.healthnet.lu ([158.64.36.7] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id DAA09252 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 03:08:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from ogbl.healthnet.lu (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ogbl.healthnet.lu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA04123 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:58:57 +0100 Message-ID: <34603550.DFF6A2AF@ogbl.healthnet.lu> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 09:58:57 +0100 From: Patrick Horsmans Organization: Centre de Recherche Public Henri Tudor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins The list Subject: [netatalk-admins] Home directory problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello to all, I'm new to netatalk, please pardon any dust. I read the online archives and found some questions that stated the same problem, but I could not find a statisfying answer. Here's the problem: afpd is unable to read the AppleVolumes (or .AppleVolumes) file in a users home directory. (e.g: "tilde"/ "My home" or any other volume specified is not read) The AppleVolumes.system file is OK and read, so is the AppleVolumes.default file for guests. I tried the netatalk 1.4b2 and 1.3.3 version. They are installed on linux slackware 3.3 running shadow passwords. The auth.c patch was installed to the 1.3.3 version and both versions were compiled with the respectif -DSHADOW ... options. After a little debugging, I found that in the .../etc/afpd/volumes.c file, the function call getpwnam always returns null from the passwd file instead of the users home directory. Did anyone have the same problem? How can I solve it? Thanks a lot for any help and hint. Patrick Horsmans, member of the santec team. www.santel.lu From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Nov 5 04:25:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id EAA08270; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 04:25:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id EAA08266; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 04:25:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA29608; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 04:25:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA29600 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 04:25:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from pingnet.de ([195.185.137.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA29463 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 04:24:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from poc@localhost) by pingnet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) id KAA21677; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:23:48 +0100 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:23:46 +0100 (MET) From: Patrik Schindler cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Home directory problem In-Reply-To: <34603550.DFF6A2AF@ogbl.healthnet.lu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, > Did anyone have the same problem? > How can I solve it? No, it works fine with my machine. (Lx Kernel 2.0.31, Shadowpw, plain 1.4b2). :wq! PoC From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Nov 5 04:52:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id EAA23929; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 04:52:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id EAA23925; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 04:52:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id EAA25462; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 04:52:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id EAA25459 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 04:52:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at (germ2.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA25344 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 04:52:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from buster.retti.at (internet@pc1-c608.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.17]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.7/8.8.6 (l 2)) with ESMTP id LAA24550; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:51:08 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (m610.retti.at [192.168.0.13]) by buster.retti.at (8.8.3/8.8.3 (GR v 1.1)) with ESMTP id KAA10513; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:46:26 +0100 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:46:26 +0100 X-Sender: gregor@mail.retti.at Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <34603550.DFF6A2AF@ogbl.healthnet.lu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Patrick Horsmans From: Gregor Retti Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Home directory problem Cc: netatalk-admins The list Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 9:58 Uhr +0100 05.11.1997, Patrick Horsmans wrote: >Hello to all, >I'm new to netatalk, please pardon any dust. >I read the online archives and found some questions that stated the same >problem, but I could not find a statisfying answer. > >Here's the problem: > >afpd is unable to read the AppleVolumes (or .AppleVolumes) file in a >users home directory. >(e.g: "tilde"/ "My home" or any other volume specified is not read) >The AppleVolumes.system file is OK and read, so is the >AppleVolumes.default file for guests. > >I tried the netatalk 1.4b2 and 1.3.3 version. >They are installed on linux slackware 3.3 running shadow passwords. >The auth.c patch was installed to the 1.3.3 version and both versions >were compiled with the respectif -DSHADOW ... options. > >After a little debugging, I found that in the .../etc/afpd/volumes.c >file, the function call >getpwnam always returns null from the passwd file instead of the users >home directory. > >Did anyone have the same problem? >How can I solve it? > I recently installed slakeware 3.3 with the shadow passwords on a new machine and found out that: - top did not show usernames (unlesss run by root) - id neither (unlesss run by root) - pine refused to run "Who are you?"-something (unlesss run by root) the reason was that /etc/passwd was set to -rw-------. I changed it to -rw-r--r-- and everything worked fine. hope this helps gregor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ----------- http://germanistik.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Nov 5 05:21:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id FAA25605; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 05:21:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id FAA25601; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 05:21:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA07181; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 05:21:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA07179 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 05:21:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from ogbl.healthnet.lu ([158.64.36.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id FAA07174 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 05:21:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ogbl.healthnet.lu (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ogbl.healthnet.lu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA05115 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:12:17 +0100 Message-ID: <34605491.104F4507@ogbl.healthnet.lu> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 12:12:17 +0100 From: Patrick Horsmans Organization: Centre de Recherche Public Henri Tudor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins The list Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Home directory problem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Gregor Retti wrote: > At 9:58 Uhr +0100 05.11.1997, Patrick Horsmans wrote: > >Hello to all, > >I'm new to netatalk, please pardon any dust. > >I read the online archives and found some questions that stated the same > >problem, but I could not find a statisfying answer. > > > >Here's the problem: > > > >afpd is unable to read the AppleVolumes (or .AppleVolumes) file in a > >users home directory. > >(e.g: "tilde"/ "My home" or any other volume specified is not read) > >The AppleVolumes.system file is OK and read, so is the > >AppleVolumes.default file for guests. > > > >I tried the netatalk 1.4b2 and 1.3.3 version. > >They are installed on linux slackware 3.3 running shadow passwords. > >The auth.c patch was installed to the 1.3.3 version and both versions > >were compiled with the respectif -DSHADOW ... options. > > > >After a little debugging, I found that in the .../etc/afpd/volumes.c > >file, the function call > >getpwnam always returns null from the passwd file instead of the users > >home directory. > > > >Did anyone have the same problem? > >How can I solve it? > > > > I recently installed slakeware 3.3 with the shadow passwords on a new > machine and found out that: > - top did not show usernames (unlesss run by root) > - id neither (unlesss run by root) > - pine refused to run "Who are you?"-something (unlesss run by root) > the reason was that /etc/passwd was set to -rw-------. I changed it to > -rw-r--r-- and everything worked fine. > > hope this helps > gregor > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > gregor retti ----------- http://germanistik.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you very much Gregor, it works now. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Nov 5 10:57:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA06737; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:57:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA06728; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:57:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA10333; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA10299 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:57:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA10270 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:56:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28161 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 07:36:04 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA28549; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 07:56:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 07:56:46 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711051556.HAA28549@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] erk and a17.2 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu well, i didn't get inet_aton quite right. a17.2 should work better. have a go at it. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Nov 5 11:57:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA09953; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:57:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA09948; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:57:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA18194; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:57:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA18051 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:56:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.eecis.udel.edu (louie.udel.edu [128.175.7.39]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id LAA17882 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:56:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from aurora.cis.udel.edu by mail.eecis.udel.edu id aa07660; 5 Nov 1997 11:53 EST From: dschneid@cis.udel.edu To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] printing on Solaris Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:53:42 EST Message-ID: <199711051153.aa02533@cis.udel.edu> Source-Info: From (or Sender) name not authenticated. Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, Can anyone give me any hints on getting printing to work on a Solaris machine using the SysV printing utilities? I am using plain netatalk 1.4b2 and Solaris 2.5. I tried the method suggested at http://www.crewes.ucalgary.ca/~henry/doc/sun/atalk_printer_setup.html, but had less than stellar success--I can only print postscript, and even that only works sporadically. Or, should I switch over to ucb-style printing, since that seems to be what netatalk is best at (at least that's what all the instructions seem to be for)? Thanks Dave -- David A. Schneider Dept. of Linguistics dschneid@cis.udel.edu 46 E. Delaware slug@strauss.udel.edu Newark, DE 19716 http://www.cis.udel.edu/~dschneid tel. (302) 831-8203 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Nov 5 12:11:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA10839; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:11:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA10830; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:11:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA29184; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:11:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA28336 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:10:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from host1.if.net (host1.if.net [205.178.22.100]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA28250 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:10:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from [205.178.22.15] (only.if.net [205.178.22.15]) by host1.if.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA08714; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:12:20 -0800 X-Sender: chris@what.if.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199711051556.HAA28549@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:10:27 -0800 To: a sun , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Chris Thorman Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] erk and a17.2 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Adrian, Can you explain what you mean by inet_aton? (Who should install it?) Could the symptom of this problem be that AS/IP works fine but AppleTalk has problems? (This is the problem I have found with a17. But the AS/IP has been great so far.) Trying to determine whether your improvement to a17.2 might affect me, :-) -c At 7:56 AM -0800 11/5/97, a sun wrote: >well, i didn't get inet_aton quite right. a17.2 should work >better. have a go at it. > >-a ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chris Thorman ct@ignitiondesign.com Ignition, Inc. (415) 392-6244 x3 870 Market Street (415) 392-6245 fax San Francisco, CA 94102 http://ignitiondesign.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Nov 5 16:30:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA22894; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:30:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA22887; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:30:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA11076; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:31:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA10628 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:30:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from host1.if.net (host1.if.net [205.178.22.100]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA09894 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:29:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from [205.178.22.15] (only.if.net [205.178.22.15]) by host1.if.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id NAA09985 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:30:55 -0800 X-Sender: chris@what.if.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199711051714.JAA28793@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> References: (message from Chris Thorman on Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:10:27 -0800) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:29:03 -0800 To: netatalk-admins The list From: Chris Thorman Subject: [netatalk-admins] afpd.conf: Success anyone? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I am unable to get afpd.conf to be obeyed over my AS/IP connection. I have tried the following line: - -tcp -noddp -rand2num -randnum -nocleartxt -noguest -nosavepassword -nosetpassword -loginmesg "Here you are." and gotten no luck. I noticed that adding lines such as foo -noguest bar -noguest ... and HUPing the afpd server will cause "servers" foo and bar to be registered on my AppleTalk network. Similarly, removing those lines and HUPing makes them go away, so the file is not being ignored entirely. However, the "-" line (documented as setting params for the "default" server) seems to have no effect. To wit: Passwords are still sent as clear text, DDP is still being attempted, there is no login message, password options ignored, etc. Has anyone gotten options in afpd.conf to work? Specifically, I am interested in the randnum and rand2num authentication so that cleartext will not be used to transmit passwords. (Have already built with des to enable this in theory. Just getting it work in fact is the problem...) (P.S. Thanks to Adrian Sun for creating the feature.) -c ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chris Thorman ct@ignitiondesign.com Ignition, Inc. (415) 392-6244 x3 870 Market Street (415) 392-6245 fax San Francisco, CA 94102 http://ignitiondesign.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Nov 5 19:01:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA18595; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu id TAA18564; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:00:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA08149; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:31:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id JAA27667; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:31:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id JAA26918 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:30:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from netit.be ([194.7.86.222] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA26221 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:28:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from netit.be ([194.7.74.19]) by netit.be (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA13042 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 15:25:14 +0100 Message-ID: <345DEDE7.F93D568F@netit.be> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 16:29:43 +0100 From: chris thoen Organization: Net It Be X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.0 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] HELP : nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu We have a Linux system 2.0.0 with netatalk 1.4b2 an some Macs connected to it. For some reason, the system crashed, and after the reboot, I can't get up the netatalk software. Ik always get the message : nbp_rgstr : Connection timed out; Can't register "system-name:Workstation:@*" Nothing is changed in the configuration. Can somebody explain what is happening, and what can be the solution? I've seen in other mails that a lot of other people have the same problem, but never found any solution. The system is on a local network, with all Mac's connected in the same subnet. Thanks, Chris -- Chris THOEN Systeembeheerder Net it be Posthoflei 3 2600 BERCHEM tel : 03/286.04.34 fax : 03/286.04.70 email : christ@netit.be url : www.netit.be From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Nov 5 19:25:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA27253; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:25:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA27204; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:24:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id TAA23097; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:25:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id TAA23092 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:25:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from thejestr.rutgers.edu (thejestr.rutgers.edu [128.6.209.58]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA23086 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:25:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from jestr (cc295041-a.vron1.nj.home.com [24.3.146.14]) by thejestr.rutgers.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA06323 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:19:19 -0500 From: TheJestr Message-Id: <199711060019.TAA06323@thejestr.rutgers.edu> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: Netatalk List Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:24:52 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [netatalk-admins] Failed login attempts problem and Volume size In-reply-to: <345E7AB7.CE00AC17@w3-design.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu No response after several failed login attempts: For some strange reason if I attempt to login to the Netatalk server with and invalid username and password the server disables logins for all users. I have a user account with a password that has mixed case and this user is unable to login to the server. That's not so much the problem as once he has attempted to login 2 times the server does not allow any other users to connect. When someone selects the server in chooser his/her computer gives the message No response from server. can ANYONE help with this as this will cause huge problems among my end users. 6GB Volume Problem: Is there any possible way to get MACs to see volumes 5GBs or higher. I installed MAC OS 8 and that didnt seem to work. I would rather not split the volume as I installed this server for the sole purpose of providing a large volume for my art departments huge files. Thanks. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Nov 5 21:30:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA27655; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:30:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id VAA27647; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:30:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id VAA27644; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:30:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id VAA27636; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:30:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711060230.VAA27636@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: evan.cordes@umich.edu To: linux-atalk@netspace.org, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] possible list merger Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 21:30:12 -0500 X-Sender: epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu "Does it make sense to merge linux-atalk into netatalk-admins?" is the question being posed to both lists. Rob Newberry (maintainer of the l-a list) and I have talked this over, and found the key considerations to be: () maintain an open forum for discussion of topics not related to netatalk, but to probably-related issues, such as CAP, linux ppp issues, possible additions to netatalk, wishes, etc. With the recent changes we've made to the n-a list, we have our own completely open forum (n-a), and set up netatalk-release for announcements to people who didn't want the large influx of netatalk mail. Those who are/have been on the n-a list can attest that it is an open forum. We have not (nor care to) squash any topic of conversation, even if it doesn't have the word, "netatalk" necessarily in it. () the l-a list gets mail from people running Solaris, AIX, and sundry others inquiring about their platforms. The n-a list gets mail plenty of Linux questions. Both lists receive similar questions regarding issues of more general issues (say the macos8 problems, fixes, and patches, for instance). () why *not* consolidate? THey're both fairly low-traffic, or at least easy to sort through, and as end-user of both of them, myself, I would find it less mail to sort through than the current state. In opening this discussion, I've already heard of one person who didn't know of the existance of the n-a list. The resources would be more concentrated. () most of the netatalk code is available on all of the various ports. The greatest differences exist in kernel-level code (of course), and in hardware differences, and slightly in config differences. These don't seem overburdening in my mind to compile into one list. () in regards to the possibility of a devel list, that would be a possibility, if the need would arise. I've not seen a tremendous amount of discussion in this vein in my short time administering this list and reading l-a, but that could change now that I've got my eyes out there. The forum has already been opened for discussion on the linux-atalk list, and I would further opening it up on the netatalk-admins list. Bare bones, we think: Separate lists seem unnecessary in the current situation. EV AN "netatalk-admins admin" netatalk@umich.edu ps. if you're unfamiliar with the n-a and n-r lists, check out: http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk/ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Nov 5 23:18:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id XAA00792; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:18:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id XAA00727; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:18:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA03571; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:18:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA03547 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:18:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA03513 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:18:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@szava-69.dialin.datanet.hu [195.56.4.69]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id FAA25397 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 05:17:59 +0100 Message-ID: <346144AC.D323BCFD@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 05:16:44 +0100 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.31 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] [off-topic] OPI - anyone? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Dear list members, [This might be off-topic; in that case please direct me privately to the corresponding forum.] I consider creating and Open Prepress Interface implementation atop of netatalk. In order to avoid reinventing the wheel, I would like to know, if and whether there are other people having similar intentions, or thoughts about using/needing/implementing OPI. If You consider this off-topic, please respond in private e-mail. Thank You for Your time. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Nov 6 06:39:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA02555; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 06:39:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA02549; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 06:39:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA03320; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 06:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA03318 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 06:39:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from sparta.scl.co.uk (sparta.scl.co.uk [163.164.160.4]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA03308 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 06:39:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from [163.164.164.52] (lydia.scl.co.uk [163.164.164.52]) by sparta.scl.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA00358; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:38:32 GMT X-Sender: john@mail.scl.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:38:26 +0100 To: Chris Thorman From: john@scl.co.uk (John Sutton) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] afpd.conf: Success anyone? Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Specifically, I am interested in the randnum and rand2num authentication so >that cleartext will not be used to transmit passwords. (Have already built >with des to enable this in theory. Just getting it work in fact is the >problem...) Tell me, which ASIP clients know how to do this kind of authentication? I'm using AppleShare 3.7 under OS 7.5.5. Will this do it? If so I'll have a crack at getting it going myself as I'd certainly prefer not to be using cleartext. Thanks! *********************** John Sutton SCL Computer Services http://www.scl.co.uk Tel +44 (0) 1239 621021 *********************** From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Nov 6 11:00:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA08621; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:00:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA08616; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:00:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA25591; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:00:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA25465 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:00:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from thejestr.rutgers.edu (thejestr.rutgers.edu [128.6.209.58]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA24141 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:58:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (thejestr@localhost) by thejestr.rutgers.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA09464; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:50:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:50:23 -0500 (EST) From: TheJestr To: Andras Kadinger cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Failed login attempts problem and Volume size In-Reply-To: <346149D1.CC618719@freeside.elte.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Andras Kadinger wrote: Thank you very much! :), someone told me about the new Apple client. I have been having problems uncompressing the .img file though. I guess I need to get the Disk Copy application from Apple. My main problem is the server disabling logins when a failed attempt to login to it occurs. I have to reboot the server which will be a huge problem when I bring the server online as I am running both Netware emulation (for DOS clients) and SAMBA (for WinNT/95) clients as well as a web server. I just cant bring the server down each time someone makes a mistake w/ his/her login name/password. Any assistance with this problem would be greatly apprecitated. Problem Reiterated: A Macintosh user attempts to login and specifies the wrong username and/or password. The next person attempting to connect to the server gets the message No response from the server. The server itself seems fine. I can still do nbplkup and see all the other Macs on the network. I attempt to restart the process by typing (in /etc/rc.d/init.d/) ./atalk stop (that works) but for some reason ./atalk start does not. I get a message about Child process not starting. So to restart atalkd I have to reboot the server. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The guy who wrote the hokey pokey died but they couldn't get him in the casket. They put his left foot in... It stinks! -- Jay Sherman. Noted Critic thejestr@thejestr.rutgers.edu Me am goto collig ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Nov 6 12:10:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA11011; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:10:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA11006; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:10:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA05162; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:11:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA04238 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:09:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from jeter.acpub.duke.edu (jeter.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA04190 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:09:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from kea.zoo.duke.edu (kea.zoo.duke.edu [152.3.13.91]) by jeter.acpub.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.5.3) with SMTP id LAA11049; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:52:15 -0500 (EST) From: Randall Downer Reply-To: Randall Downer To: TheJestr cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Failed login attempts problem and Volume size In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:52:08 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: Simeon for Solaris Motif Version 4.1.2 Build (32) X-Authentication: none MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I can recreate your symptoms on my Solaris 2.5.1 boxxes with 1.4b2. However, after i do the /etc/init.d/atalk stop I still find running atalk processes. Kill them off and you (i) can /etc/init.d/atalk start. However, the only mac os that causes this problem appears to be 7.5.X, my 8.0 and 7.6.x boxxes _do_not_ cause this to happen. Anybody else seeing this? Is it a Solaris/7.5.X only problem? Randy On Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:50:23 -0500 (EST) TheJestr wrote: > On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Andras Kadinger wrote: > > Thank you very much! :), someone told me about the new Apple client. I > have been having problems uncompressing the .img file though. I guess I > need to get the Disk Copy application from Apple. > > My main problem is the server disabling logins when a failed attempt > to login to it occurs. I have to reboot the server which will be a huge > problem when I bring the server online as I am running both Netware > emulation (for DOS clients) and SAMBA (for WinNT/95) clients as well as a > web server. I just cant bring the server down each time someone makes a > mistake w/ his/her login name/password. Any assistance with this problem > would be greatly apprecitated. > > Problem Reiterated: > A Macintosh user attempts to login and specifies the wrong username and/or > password. The next person attempting to connect to the server gets the > message No response from the server. The server itself seems fine. I can > still do nbplkup and see all the other Macs on the network. > I attempt to restart the process by typing (in /etc/rc.d/init.d/) ./atalk > stop (that works) but for some reason ./atalk start does not. > I get a message about Child process not starting. So to restart atalkd I > have to reboot the server. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The guy who wrote the hokey pokey died but they couldn't get him in the > casket. They put his left foot in... > It stinks! -- Jay Sherman. Noted Critic > thejestr@thejestr.rutgers.edu > Me am goto collig > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------------------------------------- Randall Downer 244 BioSci Building Systems Programmer Duke University Botany/Zoology Department Durham,NC 27708 randy@duke.edu 919-660-7273 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Nov 6 12:22:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA11920; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:22:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA11915; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:22:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA13254; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:23:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA13218 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:23:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from sparta.scl.co.uk (sparta.scl.co.uk [163.164.160.4]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA12998 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:22:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from john@localhost) by sparta.scl.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) id RAA01921; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 17:09:04 GMT Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 17:09:04 GMT From: John Sutton Message-Id: <199711061709.RAA01921@sparta.scl.co.uk> To: bandit@freeside.elte.hu, thejestr@thejestr.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Failed login attempts problem and Volume size Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu From owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Thu Nov 6 16:11:53 1997 Return-Path: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.164.2]) by sparta.scl.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA01622 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 16:11:52 GMT Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with SMTP id LAA08815; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:04:46 -0500 (EST) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (bulk_mailer v1.5+); Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:00:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA08621; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:00:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA08616; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:00:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA25591; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:00:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA25465 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:00:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from thejestr.rutgers.edu (thejestr.rutgers.edu [128.6.209.58]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA24141 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:58:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (thejestr@localhost) by thejestr.rutgers.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA09464; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:50:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:50:23 -0500 (EST) From: TheJestr To: Andras Kadinger cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Failed login attempts problem and Volume size In-Reply-To: <346149D1.CC618719@freeside.elte.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Status: R IMHO the problem is that there is a component of the appletalk code in the kernel which has it's own state. Therefore you needs must either reboot the kenel (as you have been doing) _or_ build the appletalk code into a reloadable module which enables you to recover the situation without dirsrupting other services. Not that this explains away the cause of the problem? I remember having it but I don't have it any more. Probably the cause is the appleshare client. I use B1-3.7. My 2p On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Andras Kadinger wrote: Problem Reiterated: A Macintosh user attempts to login and specifies the wrong username and/or password. The next person attempting to connect to the server gets the message No response from the server. The server itself seems fine. I can still do nbplkup and see all the other Macs on the network. I attempt to restart the process by typing (in /etc/rc.d/init.d/) ./atalk stop (that works) but for some reason ./atalk start does not. I get a message about Child process not starting. So to restart atalkd I have to reboot the server. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The guy who wrote the hokey pokey died but they couldn't get him in the casket. They put his left foot in... It stinks! -- Jay Sherman. Noted Critic thejestr@thejestr.rutgers.edu Me am goto collig ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Nov 6 12:46:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA13600; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:46:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA13592; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:46:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA27750; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:46:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA27698 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:46:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.ufl.edu (spnode04.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.174.4]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA27649 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:46:49 -0500 (EST) From: leow@ufl.edu Received: from ufl.edu (switch07.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.175.7]) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/1.5.1) with ESMTP id MAA08960 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:46:13 -0500 Received: from [128.227.8.38] (leo.circa.ufl.edu [128.227.8.38]) by ufl.edu (8.8.6/8.8.7/1.7) with SMTP id MAA52686 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:46:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 12:46:14 -0400 Subject: [netatalk-admins] make ps user the papd op? To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, The Apple LaserWriter 8 driver includes the Macintosh's Owner Name (set in the Sharing Setup control panel or via AppleScript in my labs) in the postscript job, which papd receives. Maybe papd also sees the Owner Name via AppleTalk? Anyway, I need to set the papd operator name (op= in papd.conf) to the Mac Owner Name for each job it receives. Is there a way to do this? Sincerely, Leo Wierzbowski Univ of FL leow@ufl.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Nov 6 13:06:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA14935; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:06:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA14929; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:06:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA16036; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:06:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA15992 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:06:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.netcetera.dk (sleipner.netcetera.dk [194.192.97.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA15917 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:06:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.11] (loke.odense.netcetera.dk [192.168.2.11]) by mail.netcetera.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA05307 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 19:06:30 +0100 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 19:06:36 +0100 From: Gustav Kristoffer Ek Reply-To: stoffer@netcetera.dk Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17.2 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am running linux 2.0.30 on a i586 and netatalk-14b2 + the afp/tcp patches to 1.4b2. When I try to make the netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17.2.tar.gz got from ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/public/asun/ installed in /usr/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17.2/ it compiles fine until the following: make -w CC="gcc " ADDLIBS="" DEFS="" \ OPTOPTS="-O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized" DESTDIR="/usr/local/atalk" DESDIR="/usr/l\ SBINDIR="/usr/local/atalk/etc" BINDIR="/usr/local/atalk/bin" RESDIR="/usr/local/atalk/etc" \ ETCDIR="/usr/local/atalk/etc" LIBDIR="/usr/local/atalk/lib" INCDIR="/usr/local/atalk/include" \ PAMDIR="/usr" TCPWRAPDIR="/usr" \ KRBLIBS="${KRBLIBS}" KRBLIBDIRS="${KRBLIBDIRS}" \ KRBINCPATH="${KRBINCPATH}" KRBDEFS="${KRBDEFS}" \ AFSLIBS="${AFSLIBS}" AFSLIBDIRS="${AFSLIBDIRS}" \ DESLIBS="${DESLIBS}" DESLIBDIRS="${DESLIBDIRS}" \ PAMLIBS="${PAMLIBS}" PAMLIBDIRS="${PAMLIBDIRS}" \ TCPWRAPLIBS="${TCPWRAPLIBS}" TCPWRAPLIBDIRS="${TCPWRAPLIBDIRS}" \ DESINCPATH="${DESINCPATH}" DESDEFS="${DESDEFS}" \ PAMINCPATH="${PAMINCPATH}" PAMDEFS="${PAMDEFS}" \ AFSINCPATH="${AFSINCPATH}" AFSDEFS="${AFSDEFS}" \ afpd make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17.2/etc/afpd' gcc -DUAM_RNDNUM -O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized -I../../include -I/usr/local/inco unix.c:58: sys/quota.h: No such file or directory make[4]: *** [unix.o] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17.2/etc/afpd' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17.2/etc/afpd' make[2]: *** [afpd] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17.2/etc' make[1]: *** [../../etc] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17.2/sys/linux' make: *** [all] Error 2 I have not modified any Makefiles when I copy /usr/src/linux-2.0.30/include/linux/quota.h to /usr/include/sys/quota.h it seams to go a little better: make -w CC="gcc " ADDLIBS="" DEFS="" \ OPTOPTS="-O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized" DESTDIR="/usr/local/atalk" DESDIR="/usr/l\ SBINDIR="/usr/local/atalk/etc" BINDIR="/usr/local/atalk/bin" RESDIR="/usr/local/atalk/etc" \ ETCDIR="/usr/local/atalk/etc" LIBDIR="/usr/local/atalk/lib" INCDIR="/usr/local/atalk/include" \ PAMDIR="/usr" TCPWRAPDIR="/usr" \ KRBLIBS="${KRBLIBS}" KRBLIBDIRS="${KRBLIBDIRS}" \ KRBINCPATH="${KRBINCPATH}" KRBDEFS="${KRBDEFS}" \ AFSLIBS="${AFSLIBS}" AFSLIBDIRS="${AFSLIBDIRS}" \ DESLIBS="${DESLIBS}" DESLIBDIRS="${DESLIBDIRS}" \ PAMLIBS="${PAMLIBS}" PAMLIBDIRS="${PAMLIBDIRS}" \ TCPWRAPLIBS="${TCPWRAPLIBS}" TCPWRAPLIBDIRS="${TCPWRAPLIBDIRS}" \ DESINCPATH="${DESINCPATH}" DESDEFS="${DESDEFS}" \ PAMINCPATH="${PAMINCPATH}" PAMDEFS="${PAMDEFS}" \ AFSINCPATH="${AFSINCPATH}" AFSDEFS="${AFSDEFS}" \ afpd make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17.2/etc/afpd' gcc -DUAM_RNDNUM -O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized -I../../include -I/usr/local/inco gcc -DUAM_RNDNUM -O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized -I../../include -I/usr/local/inco gcc -DUAM_RNDNUM -O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized -I../../include -I/usr/local/inco gcc -DUAM_RNDNUM -O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized -I../../include -I/usr/local/inco send_to_kdc.c:17: warning: `rcsid_send_to_kdc_c' defined but not used gcc -DUAM_RNDNUM -O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized -I../../include -I/usr/local/inco gcc -DUAM_RNDNUM -O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized -I../../include -I/usr/local/inco gcc -DUAM_RNDNUM -O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized -I../../include -I/usr/local/inco gcc -DUAM_RNDNUM -O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized -I../../include -I/usr/local/inco gcc -DUAM_RNDNUM -O5 -fomit-frame-pointer -fsigned-char -Wunused -Wuninitialized -I../../include -I/usr/local/inco auth.c:120: des.h: No such file or directory make[4]: *** [auth.o] Error 1 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17.2/etc/afpd' make[3]: *** [all] Error 2 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17.2/etc/afpd' make[2]: *** [afpd] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17.2/etc' make[1]: *** [../../etc] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17.2/sys/linux' make: *** [all] Error 2 but at this point I'am lost, do any og you know a solution? - gustav --------------------------------------------------------------------- Gustav Kristoffer Ek - Netcetera - Finsensvej 80 - 2000 Frederiksberg tlf 38 88 32 22 / 20 40 00 05 / 38 88 20 38 ext 341 - Fax 38 88 30 38 Webdesign, Webhotel, Mailhotel, UUCP og mere http://www.netcetera.dk/ From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Nov 6 14:18:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA17620; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 14:18:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA17603; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 14:18:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA28115; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 14:19:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA28054 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 14:19:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from argonaut.w3-design.com (argonaut.w3-design.com [209.85.7.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA27278 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 14:17:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from w3-design.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08855 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:17:03 -0800 Message-ID: <346217AE.172B8F90@w3-design.com> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 11:17:03 -0800 From: Jeff Wiegley Organization: W3-design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.29-ISS i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk's handling of file permissions is broken... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Since netatalk was designed to *share* files between multiple users it seems pretty silly to me that there is no way to modify what file permissions are set on files and directories when netatalk creates them. A for instance: I want *all* my directories to have a chmod of 2770. This way any files a user creates inherits the group that the directory belongs to and thus any members of that group can access the files in this directory. and files which are created should get a mode of at least 0660. all well and good for files, which seem to work correctly, except if netatalk creates a subdirectory then the subdirectory inherits the proper user.group from the parent directory but it gets a mode of just 0770 efectively loosing the 's' bits. Now if the user creates files in the subdirectory they don't inherit any useful permissions and other users cannot access these files. There is no way a mac user can change the permissions of the files/directories so I have to keep doing it manually on the netatalk server which is a pain. At least I can't find it. How do I modify netatalk (afpd I guess in particular) to change the default modes it gives to new files and directories? I want all directories to have at least 2770 and all files to have at least 0660. samba had nice configuration parameters "force create mode" and "force directory mode" to fix this for the samba users but my netatalk users are still screwing up the permissions. I'm sure somebody else has had this same problem. How did you fix it? - Jeff Wiegley From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Nov 6 15:01:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA19829; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:01:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA19824; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:00:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA23188; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:01:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA23113 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:01:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from argon.roma2.infn.it (argon.roma2.infn.it [141.108.16.147]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA22323 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:00:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (lorenzo@localhost) by argon.roma2.infn.it (8.8.7/8.8.7/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id UAA23279 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:59:26 +0100 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:59:26 +0100 (CET) From: "Lorenzo M. Catucci" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] pap doesn't leave printer (asun 17) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The subject says it all, now the details: 1. linux 2.0.29, kernel appletalk patched with asun's diff 2. printer is an HP DW-550C (yes it happens to work, with gs's djc550 device settings Maybe someone out there knows why does this happen? This one was only for testing the printer, and for a proof of concept of appletalk printing, maybe I could write some helper scripts to use such a colour printer, but that's useless if it doesn't get released when the job is finished... Yours, lorenzo From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Nov 6 15:38:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA22174; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:38:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA22170; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:38:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA16267; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:38:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA16250 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:38:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from thejestr.rutgers.edu (thejestr.rutgers.edu [128.6.209.58]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA16004 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:38:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (thejestr@localhost) by thejestr.rutgers.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA10521; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:23:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:23:07 -0500 (EST) From: TheJestr To: Andras Kadinger cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Failed login attempts problem and Volume size In-Reply-To: <346149D1.CC618719@freeside.elte.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I downloaded and installed this new client and MacOS still sees my /g1 volume as 541 mb's it's actually 6gb and it sees the /u1 volume as 1.9 gb and its actually 3.2gb. Any ideas? And this failed login attempt thing is still a problem. On Thu, 6 Nov 1997, Andras Kadinger wrote: thejestr > TheJestr wrote: > > 6GB Volume Problem: > > Is there any possible way to get MACs to see volumes 5GBs or higher. > > I installed MAC OS 8 and that didnt seem to work. I would rather not > > split the volume as I installed this server for the sole purpose of > > providing a large volume for my art departments huge files. > > I apologize if I am the nth telling You, > > 1. AFAIK, as long, as netatalk can see the entire volume, You can use > it, with the only inconvenience of seeing it max ~2GB, and seeing max > ~2GB free space in any case, which means, You can not copy more than > ~2GB onto the volume _in_one_step_ (because Finder thinks, there is not > enough space); the free space indication will only get lower, when there > _really_ is less than ~2GB space. This ~2GB is a limitation of the AFP > structures (somewhere there is a signed long - 31 bits=2G) - in order to > avoid an overflow in the Macintosh client, netatalk has to give it > something, it 'can take'. > > 2. AFAIK, this limitation has been lifted (somewhat - ?) in the new AFP > specification; the newest AppleShare Client 3.7.2 (available from > www.apple.com | Software Updates | Recent changes [as of today]) has a > higher limit (I guess 64 bits - ?). As You say MacOS 8 cannot see 5GB or > higher, this might mean, there is only 32 bits - 4GB; nevertheless, > MacOS 8 (the one I use) has an older AppleShare Client; it is worth > upgrading, because You finally don't have to press Option to get a > TCP/IP connection - it is the default now. :-) > > Sincerely, > Andras Kadinger > bandit@freeside.elte.hu > From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Nov 6 18:32:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA29229; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:32:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA29223; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:32:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA21028; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:33:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA21024 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:33:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from uni.uiuc.edu (mork.uni.uiuc.edu [128.174.32.192]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id SAA21020 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:33:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by uni.uiuc.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id RAA28741; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 17:32:38 -0600 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 17:32:38 -0600 (CST) From: Andrew McNabb To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk's handling of file permissions is broken... In-Reply-To: <346217AE.172B8F90@w3-design.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I thought that you could modify permissions from File:Sharing on the mac. --------------------------- -- Andrew McNabb -- -- amcnabb@uiuc.edu -- --------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Nov 6 20:09:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA04119; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:09:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id UAA04111; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:09:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id UAA01783; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:10:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id UAA01772 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:10:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from argonaut.w3-design.com (argonaut.w3-design.com [209.85.7.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA01736 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 20:10:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from w3-design.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA19435; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 17:09:29 -0800 Message-ID: <34626A49.8948AE97@w3-design.com> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 17:09:29 -0800 From: Jeff Wiegley Organization: W3-design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.29-ISS i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew McNabb CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk's handling of file permissions is stupid... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Andrew McNabb wrote: > > I thought that you could modify permissions from File:Sharing on the mac. > > --------------------------- > -- Andrew McNabb -- > -- amcnabb@uiuc.edu -- > --------------------------- I know very little about macs but I *highly* doubt you can change the suid/guid bits of a directory. (and I'm right since I checked) and I certainly don't want to force my users to have to change permissions all the time on something that should be done automagically for them in shared directories. I'm currently working on modifying the source code directly to create directories (in etc/afpd/directory.c) to create them with a mode of 06777. But it's not going well at all. the initial mkdir() calls does the job correctly but something later which I can't find resets the permission bits. grrr.... On further inspection this is why netatalk's file permissions suck... Macs can't specify/change any of the following permission bits: #define S_ISUID 0004000 /* set user id bit */ #define S_ISGID 0002000 /* set group is bit */ #define S_ISVTX 0001000 /* sticky bit */ #define S_IXUSR 0000100 /* owner executable bit */ #define S_IXGRP 0000010 /* group executable bit */ #define S_IXOTH 0000001 /* other executable bit */ The proper thing that netatalk *should* be doing is setting the bits that a Mac filesystem *can* specify and allow the remaing, unspecifiable bits (as described above) to be inherited from the parent directory and users umask. But alas this isn't the way its done and as a result I have to either 1) tell people to set *world* read/write permissions on everything they create. group is not sufficient because by default files don't inherit the group of the parent directory because netatalk dropped the sgid bit when it was created and users can't bring it back. or they can go around changing the group on everything they create of course by either way its a waste of the employees time and patience. 2) sit here all day long doing nothing but periodically turning sgid bits on for the directories they create. Or, 3) run a cron job every few minutes to go through nearly 12gigabytes of filesystem to automatically do 2) for me. Good thing we have a hyper fast server. I can't believe the other users of netatalk have put up with this broken behavior without fixing it. I'm trying my damn hardest to implement a fix to provide the inheritance of the nonspecifiable bits but I know nothing about the AFP protocol and even less about the layout and workings of netatalk since it has such sparse code documentation. - Jeff From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Nov 6 21:21:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA09172; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:21:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA09160; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:21:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA17320; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:21:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA17314 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:21:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from argonaut.w3-design.com (argonaut.w3-design.com [209.85.7.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA17297 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:21:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from w3-design.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA22477; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:21:11 -0800 Message-ID: <34627B16.4A71ABC0@w3-design.com> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 18:21:10 -0800 From: Jeff Wiegley Organization: W3-design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.29-ISS i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Schulz CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk's handling of file permissions is broken... References: <199711070143.CAA04371@Abarrach.evendim.world> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu approx. seven steps ahead of you... Roland Schulz wrote: > > Hi, > > > A for instance: > > > > I want *all* my directories to have a chmod of 2770. > > This way any files a user creates inherits the group > > that the directory belongs to and thus any members of > > that group can access the files in this directory. > > > > and files which are created should get a mode of at > > least 0660. > > > I've already attacked the source code. and there are several problems with this approach... mostly the authors extremely abstracting use of: int (**afp_switch)() = preauth_switch; int (*postauth_switch[])() = { NULL, afp_bytelock, afp_closevol, afp_null, afp_closefork, afp_copyfile, afp_createdir, afp_createfile, /* 0 - 7 */ afp_delete, afp_enumerate, afp_flush, afp_flushfork, afp_null, afp_null, afp_getforkparams, afp_null, /* 8 - 15 */ afp_getsrvrparms, afp_getvolparams, afp_login, afp_logincont, afp_logout, afp_mapid, afp_mapname, afp_moveandrename, /* 16 - 23 */ afp_openvol, afp_null, afp_openfork, afp_read, afp_rename, afp_setdirparams, afp_setfilparams, afp_setforkparams, /* 24 - 31 */ afp_null, afp_write, afp_getfildirparams, afp_setfildirparams, afp_changepw, afp_null, afp_getsrvrmesg, afp_null /*afp_createid*/, /* 32 - 39 */ afp_null /*afp_deleteid*/, afp_null /*afp_resolveid*/, afp_null /*afp_exchangefiles*/, afp_null, afp_null, afp_null, afp_null, afp_null, /* 40 - 47 */ afp_opendt, afp_null, afp_null, afp_geticon, afp_geticoninfo, afp_addappl, afp_rmvappl, afp_getappl, /* 48 - 55 */ afp_addcomment, afp_rmvcomment, afp_getcomment, NULL, in etc/afpd/switch.c makes it nearly impossible to figure out what is being called which makes tracing what netatalk is trying to do very hard. but besides that. Taking the high road I've spent all of today trying exactly what you mentioned below... > Then how about patching the source in libatalk/adouble/ad_open.c, > namely ad_mkdir? > > int > ad_mkdir( path, mode ) > char *path; > int mode; > { > ! return mkdir( path, ad_mode( path, mode ) ); > } > > => return mkdir( path, ad_mode( path, mode ) | ); > > That wasn't hard at all, agreed? Since afpd does only ad_mkdir(), not mkdir() > itself you can put anything you like in there and it will be used for all > calls in afpd. So now about files, this is a bit harder, since ad_open uses oh yes, very easy ben kanobi... have you tried this? as it turns out ad_mkdir is called by afp_createdir() which, if you put the proper... stat(...); syslog(...); exit(-1); just before the final return in afp_create not only does stat report that the directory just created has st_mode of 042770 when the function (and therefore afpd) dies the directory left in your filesystem has the proper mode: drwxrws--- But!! something, somewhere (after the call to afp_createdir has run and completed its task) is modifying the permissions of the newly created directory. effectively wiping out the sgid bit. I've put syslog calls at every point in the program that either calls chmod or chown (the only two system functions I can think of that has the abilities to change permissions) and neither of these is called in reference to the newly created directory. sever chown/chmod calls are made to the AppleDouble hierarchy but not the directory you just created. and As I've mentioned the silly "switch.c" implementation makes it impossible to tell what major afp functions are being called next after the directory creation has completed. So I can't find what is responsible for the bits changing after the completion of directory creation. > more than one call to open which can create a file: > > if ( adflags & ADFLAGS_DF ) { > if (( ad->ad_df.adf_fd = > ! open( path, oflags, ad_mode( path, mode ) )) < 0 ) { > return( -1 ); > } > > => open( path, oflags, ad_mode( path, mode ) | )) < 0 ) { > > and > > if ( adflags & ADFLAGS_HF ) { > ad_p = ad_path( path, adflags ); > ! admode = ad_mode( ad_p, mode ); > > => admode = ad_mode( ad_p, mode ) | ; files are not a huge problem. If the directories are modified such that they retain the gid bit that they inherit then files will inherit the proper group even in subfolders that have been created. > > An alternative way would be to patch ad_mode() itself, but then you'd need > to check from there if it's a file or a directory. > > Sorry for the fake patches, this is directly from the source and therefore > without any tests and guarantees :-) Oh, I certainly don't mind the fake patches, they make perfect sense. However as I mentioned these aren't the places in the code entirely responsible for resetting a directories permissions. > > Use the source, Luke! I am Ben but its a lot more complex than this and I'm a little dissapointed that the original authors designed netatalk to ignore the importance of Unix permission bits. Mac's never had decent file permissions why would you limit netatalk to the Mac's crippled implementation? SAMBA has it right. you have a method of configuring samba to allows clear certain bits and always add certain bits to either files or directories. Anything not specified by these two masks gets inherited from either the client or the parent directory. If I learn enough about the convolutions that netatalk is going through when dealing with permissions I'll write a patch that implements this same behavior in netatalk. > > Roland Schulz > fi111@fen.baynet.de - Jeff Wiegley From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Nov 6 21:33:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA09907; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:33:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id VAA09893; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:33:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id VAA09888; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:33:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id VAA09869; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:33:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711070233.VAA09869@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Jeff Wiegley cc: Roland Schulz , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk's handling of file permissions is broken... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Nov 1997 18:21:10 PST." <34627B16.4A71ABC0@w3-design.com> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 21:33:37 -0500 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Jeff Wiegley > To: Roland Schulz > something, somewhere (after the call to afp_createdir has run and > completed its > task) is modifying the permissions of the newly created directory. > effectively > wiping out the sgid bit. That's the mac. Take a look at afp_setdirparams() -> setdirparams() -> setdirmode(). The first two are in directory.c, the last in is unix.c. Which is appropriate, since the change you're trying to make is really quite OS specific. So, be sensative as you make changes... :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Nov 6 21:37:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA10516; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:37:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id VAA10511; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:37:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id VAA10508; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:37:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id VAA10428; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 21:36:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711070236.VAA10428@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Jeff Wiegley cc: Roland Schulz , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk's handling of file permissions is broken... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Nov 1997 18:21:10 PST." <34627B16.4A71ABC0@w3-design.com> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 21:36:27 -0500 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Jeff Wiegley > To: Roland Schulz [Oh, and....] > and As I've mentioned the silly "switch.c" implementation makes it > impossible > to tell what major afp functions are being called next after the > directory > creation has completed. Ah, sorry. The Mac's doing the calling, remember. You let me know a better implementation, and I'll definitely consider your suggestions. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 7 09:39:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA23516; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:39:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA23512; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:39:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id JAA19877; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:40:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id JAA19836 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk (lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk [130.159.120.6]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA19711 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:40:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from dis.strath.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lomax.dis.strath.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5/2.0A) with ESMTP id OAA08467; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:38:49 GMT To: leow@ufl.edu cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] make ps user the papd op? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Nov 1997 12:46:14 -0400." Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 14:38:49 +0000 Message-ID: <8465.878913529@dis.strath.ac.uk> From: Duncan Sinclair Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >The Apple LaserWriter 8 driver includes the Macintosh's Owner Name (set >in the Sharing Setup control panel or via AppleScript in my labs) in the >postscript job, which papd receives. Maybe papd also sees the Owner >Name via AppleTalk? Anyway, I need to set the papd operator name (op= >in papd.conf) to the Mac Owner Name for each job it receives. Is there >a way to do this? I have a patch that "attempts" this. There is no guarentee that the name papd finds is actually a real user name. Fortunately, lpr doesn't care too much. http://www.dis.strath.ac.uk/ftp/sinclair/my-netatalk.diff - or - ftp://ftp.dis.strath.ac.uk/pub/sinclair/my-netatalk.diff Use at own risk, etc.... Duncan Sinclair. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 7 12:22:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA29533; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:22:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA29529; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:22:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA03022; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:22:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA02903 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:22:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA02797 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:22:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10676; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 08:59:20 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA04111; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:21:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:21:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711071721.JAA04111@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: jeff@w3-design.com CC: fi111@fen.baynet.de, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <34627B16.4A71ABC0@w3-design.com> (message from Jeff Wiegley on Thu, 06 Nov 1997 18:21:10 -0800) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk's handling of file permissions is broken... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu umm, the netatalk code isn't that hard to follow. i believe i told you that the mode changes were coming from the chmod()'s in unix.c. the easiest way of fixing the problem would involve stat()'ing directories and then using the special bits of the umode during the chmod. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 7 14:04:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA03131; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:04:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA03126; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:04:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA02812; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:04:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA02806 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:04:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA02795 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:04:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA27513; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:03:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (bioserver.bio.mtu.edu [141.219.40.72]) by mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA01803; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:03:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (bioserver.bio.mtu.edu [141.219.40.72]) by bioserver.bio.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id OAA02834; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:04:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:04:03 -0500 (EST) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@bioserver.bio.mtu.edu To: a sun cc: jeff@w3-design.com, fi111@fen.baynet.de, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk's handling of file permissions is broken... In-Reply-To: <199711071721.JAA04111@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu a sun wrote: > umm, the netatalk code isn't that hard to follow. i believe i told you > that the mode changes were coming from the chmod()'s in unix.c. the > easiest way of fixing the problem would involve stat()'ing directories > and then using the special bits of the umode during the chmod. I haven't tried to follow all of the code, but I agree that figure out where it might be changing the permissions is not terribly tricky. Since the Mac has no way of changing the setuid, setgid, or sticky bits of a directory, doesn't it make sense for afpd to never change them? And chmod (dir, mode) will do that, unfortunately. I haven't patched netatalk yet, but I think that changing the mode used at line 520 of unix.c will do the trick. Just stat() the directory about to be changed, and use the mode bits that the Mac has no notion of. I think the below masking should do the trick: mode = (stbuf.st_mode & 007000) | mode; My current opinion is that afpd *is* actually broken in this sense. I will patch my copy of 1.4b2 soon and if successful I will post my results to the list--but if someone else beats me I'll try not to clutter :) - edan -- Edan Idzerda System Administrator -- Michigan Technological University, Houghton MI USA From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 7 14:24:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA04592; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:24:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA04586; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:24:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA02442; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:24:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA02426 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:24:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA02415 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:24:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11752; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:01:57 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA04620; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:24:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:24:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711071924.LAA04620@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: edan@mtu.edu CC: jeff@w3-design.com, fi111@fen.baynet.de, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from Edan Idzerda on Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:04:03 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk's handling of file permissions is broken... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Just stat() the directory about to be changed, and use the mode bits that the Mac has no notion of. I think the below masking should do the trick: mode = (stbuf.st_mode & 007000) | mode; although there are actually a number of places where you need to do that, i was planning on doing something similar. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 7 16:08:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA09399; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:08:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA09384; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:08:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA15818; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:09:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA15788 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:09:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA14838; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:08:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12525; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:44:56 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA04949; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:07:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:07:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711072107.NAA04949@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, netatalk@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] special bits and such Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu in case people are interested, my next patch (a18) will have modifications to allow retention of special permission bits. here's what i did: 1) altered DEFMASK in ad_open.c to 7700. 2) added a change_perm (given at end) to unix.c. 3) replaced all but one of the chmod's with change_perm's (one of the chmod's actually has stat information already, so i just used that). 4) presto! setgid bits now stay and propagate. #ifndef __GNUC__ #define __inline__ #endif static __inline__ int change_perm(const char *path, mode_t mode) { struct stat st; if (stat(path, &st) < 0) { return -1; } return chmod(path, (st.st_mode & 07000) | mode); } From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 7 18:41:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA14965; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 18:41:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA14960; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 18:41:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA20631; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 18:41:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA20627 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 18:41:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from argonaut.w3-design.com (argonaut.w3-design.com [209.85.7.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA20509; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 18:41:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from w3-design.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28484; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 15:41:24 -0800 Message-ID: <3463A723.7EE97E57@w3-design.com> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 15:41:23 -0800 From: Jeff Wiegley Organization: W3-design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.29-ISS i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: a sun CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, netatalk@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] special bits and such References: <199711072107.NAA04949@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu a sun wrote: > > in case people are interested, my next patch (a18) will have > modifications to allow retention of special permission bits. here's > what i did: > 1) altered DEFMASK in ad_open.c to 7700. > 2) added a change_perm (given at end) to unix.c. > 3) replaced all but one of the chmod's with change_perm's (one > of the chmod's actually has stat information already, so i > just used that). > 4) presto! setgid bits now stay and propagate. > > #ifndef __GNUC__ > #define __inline__ > #endif > > static __inline__ int change_perm(const char *path, mode_t mode) > { > struct stat st; > > if (stat(path, &st) < 0) { > return -1; > } > return chmod(path, (st.st_mode & 07000) | mode); > } Thanks for all the great help guys. I am still trying to do the patch myself, if for no other reason than to learn the workings of netatalk better and to get a quick and dirty solution working. One other caveat I know is that calls to chown also have the ability to strip the suid, sgid and sticky bit (under linux at least). I'm not sure off the top of my head if this behavior should be retained. Initial ideas are that chown should still strip off these bits if the group is changed to something different because I think if it isn't changed then it presents a small security hole in the OS. And finally: Wes mentioned, correctly, that dealing with suid,sgid might not work favorably on some platforms like Ultrix. My thoughts on this are: I agree. chmod in netatalk should *not* try to directly set any of the special bits. (such as modes |= 07700) instead all modes should be calculated using the permissions that *already* exist for that file or directory. I would also like to see this in the a18 patches: in unix.c somewhere: #define DIR_PERM_DENY 04002 /* dont allow suid! and don't allow unlimited writes */ #define DIR_PERM_FORCE 00660 /* we desire drw-rw---- in this share if possible */ #define FIL_PERM_DENY 07000 /* files are limited to r, w, or x in this share */ #define FIL_PERM_FORCE 00660 /* files should be rw to insure access by group */ #define MAC_MASK 00666 /* mac only specify read/write */ then these masks could be used when calculating modes such that: finalmode = (~DIR_PERM_DENY & (st.st_mode | DIR_PERM_FORCE)) & (desired_mode | ~MAC_MASK) the first part (~DIR_PERM_DENY & (st.st_mode | DIR_PERM_FORCE)) would take the current mode of the dir, add to it all permissions that you must have and then remove all the permissions that you don't want. (This is the conservative route incase ALLOW and FORCE overlap). the second part (desired_mode | ~MAC_MASK) builds a mask that consists of 1 or 0 in the positions that the Mac can specify (read/write) and 1's in all other positions. the conjunction of the two parts gives you correct bits in the position that the Mac can specify, It adds bits to any permission that you know you must have and strips bits from the positions that you know you must not have and any remaining bits not covered by the previous three things are inherited from the directories present permissions. This way Ultrix users or other platforms which have no knowledge of certain bits can deal with it. All you have to do is specify the defines correctly. In my case (linux) I would use the above values and manually set the suid and sgid bits in the top most directory of the volume and the above permissions would keep everything accessible to the group users because the sgid bit would be inherited down the tree do to st.st_mode. Does that make sense? I'm going to try and use a. sun's patch and include this for files and directories. - Jeff From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 7 19:19:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA16370; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 19:19:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from netcom4.netcom.com (netcom4.netcom.com [192.100.81.107]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA16366; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 19:19:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from elf@localhost) by netcom4.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id QAA28617 for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:19:16 -0800 (PST) From: Marc Singer Message-Id: <199711080019.QAA28617@netcom4.netcom.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Please remove me from this list. To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:19:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Thanks. -- Oscar From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 7 21:19:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA18805; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 21:19:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id VAA18786; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 21:19:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id VAA18784; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 21:19:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id VAA18748; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 21:18:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711080218.VAA18748@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Jeff Wiegley cc: a sun , netatalk-admins@umich.edu, netatalk@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] special bits and such In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 Nov 1997 15:41:23 PST." <3463A723.7EE97E57@w3-design.com> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 21:18:22 -0500 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The implementation that I suggest is that on those systems that support it, setgid is always on. This is closer to Mac semantics, and thus better. Moreover, you should not grab permissions from the containing folder, as they are also controlled by the Finder. In other words, the spec for FPCreateDir should be followed. Check out http://devworld.apple.com/ngs/lpp/adrpub/docs/dev/opentransport/docs/Inside_AppleTalk.pdf :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Nov 8 02:58:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id CAA03760; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 02:58:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id CAA03756; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 02:58:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id CAA28302; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 02:58:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id CAA28300 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 02:58:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.97]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id CAA28296 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 02:58:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from maryann.eng.umd.edu (xpi@maryann.eng.umd.edu [129.2.103.22]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA00953 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 02:58:14 -0500 (EST) From: Ashish Gokhale Received: (from xpi@localhost) by maryann.eng.umd.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA13650 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 02:58:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 02:58:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711080758.CAA13650@maryann.eng.umd.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] adajacent machines won't play nice Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Dear Netatalk gurus: here's where i want to go: Run some sort of of appleshare server on a Linux-Alpha UDB.. here's wher e I am: Digital Multia 24Mb ram Rebuilt Kernel for DDP support Netatalk compiled (afpd compiled with -lcrypt added to GCCFLAGS) A atalkd.conf that looks like: eth0 -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -addr 666.99 Netatalk sourced at boottime looks like Nov 8 02:04:44 aria atalkd[242]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 Nov 8 02:04:47 aria inetd[244]: execv /usr/sbin/in.identd: No s uch file or dire ctory Nov 8 02:04:53 aria atalkd[242]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 Nov 8 02:05:03 aria atalkd[242]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 Nov 8 02:05:13 aria atalkd[242]: config for no router Nov 8 02:05:14 aria atalkd[242]: ready 0/0/0 Nov 8 02:05:27 aria papd[257]: restart (1.4b2) Nov 8 02:05:27 aria papd[257]: No such printer: lp Nov 8 02:05:27 aria papd[257]: printcap problem: lp Nov 8 02:05:33 aria papd[257]: register aria:LaserWriter@* Nov 8 02:05:34 aria afpd[259]: aria:AFPServer@* started on 666. 99:130 (1.4b2) nbplkup looks like [root@aria bin]# ./nbplkup aria:AFPServer 666.99:130 aria:LaserWriter 666.99:128 aria:netatalk 666.99:4 aria:Workstation 666.99:4 ifconfig looks like: [root@aria bin]# /sbin/ifconfig lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:0/0 UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:7168 Metric:1 RX packets:2998 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:2998 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 eth0 Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet HWaddr 08:00:2B:E4:1A:43 inet addr:129.2.157.88 Bcast:129.2.157.255 Mask:255.255.254.0 EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:666/99 UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:61861 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 TX packets:12032 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 Interrupt:10 Base address:0xb000 Here's the weird part: Macintoshes on my side of the switch can't see aria, and convers ly nbplookup can't see them. The client machines are running 7.6 and 8.0, one PP C, the other 68k, both are verifiably working with appleshare. Macintoshes on th e other segment of the switch have no trouble seeing aria. Thank you for any help you can provide. >ash From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Nov 8 16:27:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA00390; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 16:27:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA00363; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 16:27:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA17667; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 16:27:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA17658 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 16:27:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA17653 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 16:27:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17844; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 13:03:50 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA06993; Sat, 8 Nov 1997 13:26:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 13:26:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711082126.NAA06993@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: xpi@Glue.umd.edu CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199711080758.CAA13650@maryann.eng.umd.edu> (message from Ashish Gokhale on Sat, 8 Nov 1997 02:58:12 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] adajacent machines won't play nice Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu umm, i know for a fact that 1.4b2 by itself won't work properly on 64-bit machines like the udb. on my udb at home, i haven't had any problem with my patches. they're at ftp.u.washington.edu:/public/asun. please read the appropriate README's as i often get questions that are answered in them. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 10 01:14:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id BAA14684; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 01:14:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id BAA14680; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 01:14:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id BAA24718; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 01:15:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id BAA24713 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 01:15:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from homer.mir.com.my (homer.mir.com.my [202.186.33.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id BAA24684 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 01:15:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.195] (god.mir.com.my [192.168.1.195]) by homer.mir.com.my (8.8.7/8.8.5/PIH) with SMTP id OAA30998 Mon, 10 Nov 1997 14:22:24 +0800 Message-Id: <199711100622.OAA30998@homer.mir.com.my> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Slow AppleTalk zone? Date: Mon, 10 Nov 97 14:14:39 +0800 x-sender: yeak@mail.mir.com.my x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: Yeak Nai Siew To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all, I divided a network into two zone: Earth, Moon. Both are two small LANs by itself. At Earth, there are 40 Macs/printers, 1 NT 4.0. The NT is broadcasting the AppleTalk zone called Earth. It has network range 1-1. At Moon, there are 8 Macs, 1 Linux box. The Linux box has two Ethernet interface: eth0 connecting to Earth zone and eth1 connecting to Moon zone. It is in between of two zones. This linux is broadcasting the zone Moon at eth1. I use Netatalk 1.4b2. Before I am using Netatalk, I was using NT 4.0 to do this routing stuff. !!NOW THE PROBLEM!! The settings seems okay except the speed is slow between zones. I am not sure if it is netatalk problem or the physical cable problem. The distance between this two small LANs is within 100 meter, which I don't think is the cable issue... At Moon side, I can see the Macs/printers listed on Earth from the chooser easily. On Earth side, it takes a bit time to list the computers on Moon side. It takes about 10 seconds or more to see! Can't be that slow. Last time while I use NT 4.0 server, it only take less than 1 second to see each other. No problem for file transfer, printing, or whatever under NT 4.0. What could be wrong? I have set the nice value for atalkd to -10, seems doesn't help. Does anyone else has this problem? How do you solve it? Thanks. -- Yeak Nai Siew << Macintosh Forever >> Director, MIR Communications Sdn Bhd http://www.mir.com.my/ Creator of Mac Power User Group http://www.mir.com.my/mpug/ Fingerprint @_pgp_@ 3A6D 05D3 A3CE B8B7 20C3 CD63 DE82 732D From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 10 03:46:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id DAA19586; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 03:46:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id DAA19576; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 03:45:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id DAA27091; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 03:46:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id DAA27080 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 03:46:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailout00.btx.dtag.de (mailout00.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.148]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id DAA27074 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 03:46:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd14.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.174] by mailout00.btx.dtag.de with smtp id 0xUpSV-0006Mw-00; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:44:35 +0100 Received: from [193.158.174.118] (075338050-0001(btxid)@[193.158.174.118]) by fwd14.btx.dtag.de with smtp (S3.1.29.1) id ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:44:25 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:42:14 +0100 To: Netatalk Newsgroup Subject: [netatalk-admins] Changing User Passwords X-Sender: 075338050-0001@t-online.de (Institut fuer Demoskopie Ges. z, z. Studium d. oe) From: ifd-stoetzer@t-online.de (Friedrich Stoetzer) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello to all! I read many short hints and tips about changing the user password from a mac. But unfortunately I couldn't find a -complete- guide how to sucess in this. So if anybody could advise me, I'd be very glad. (We'r using Netatalk 1.4b2 on a DOS-Box). Thanks in advance! ******************************** * * Jann Wegner * INSTITUT FUER DEMOSKOPIE ALLENSBACH * EDV-Abteilung * Radolfzeller Strasse 8 * D-78476 Allensbach * Germany * * Phone: +49 7533 805-176 * Fax: +49 7533 3048 * eMail: ifd-stoetzer@t-online.de * ******************************** From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 10 03:46:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id DAA19602; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 03:46:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id DAA19579; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 03:45:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id DAA27092; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 03:46:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id DAA27089 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 03:46:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailout04.btx.dtag.de (mailout04.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.152]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id DAA27076 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 03:46:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd14.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.174] by mailout04.btx.dtag.de with smtp id 0xUpSV-0008HJ-00; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:44:36 +0100 Received: from [193.158.174.118] (075338050-0001(btxid)@[193.158.174.118]) by fwd14.btx.dtag.de with smtp (S3.1.29.1) id ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:44:22 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:38:54 +0100 To: Netatalk Newsgroup Subject: [netatalk-admins] Clear Passwords X-Sender: 075338050-0001@t-online.de (Institut fuer Demoskopie Ges. z, z. Studium d. oe) From: ifd-stoetzer@t-online.de (Friedrich Stoetzer) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello to all! We are new on using Netatalk and therefor not too experienced. It seems, that passwords are transfered in clear text. Is there a way to omit this? (We are using Netatalk 1.4b2) Thanks in advance! ******************************** * * Jann Wegner * INSTITUT FUER DEMOSKOPIE ALLENSBACH * EDV-Abteilung * Radolfzeller Strasse 8 * D-78476 Allensbach * Germany * * Phone: +49 7533 805-176 * Fax: +49 7533 3048 * eMail: ifd-stoetzer@t-online.de * ******************************** From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 10 07:21:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA11392; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 07:21:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA11387; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 07:21:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id HAA21284; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 07:22:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id HAA21282 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 07:22:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA21274 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 07:22:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA13541; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:21:29 GMT Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:21:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Friedrich Stoetzer cc: Netatalk Newsgroup Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Clear Passwords In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The latest of Adrian Sun's Netatalk patches allows two-way randnum passwords. It also adds AFP over TCP functionality which is a big performance boost. (ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/pub/user-supported/asun/) The problem is, for two-way randnum excange to work, the server must know what the user's password is - on a standard Unix system, the system does not maintain a list of passwords. On Mon, 10 Nov 1997, Friedrich Stoetzer wrote: > Hello to all! > > We are new on using Netatalk and therefor not too experienced. > It seems, that passwords are transfered in clear text. Is there > a way to omit this? (We are using Netatalk 1.4b2) > > Thanks in advance! > > ******************************** > * > * Jann Wegner > * INSTITUT FUER DEMOSKOPIE ALLENSBACH > * EDV-Abteilung > * Radolfzeller Strasse 8 > * D-78476 Allensbach > * Germany > * > * Phone: +49 7533 805-176 > * Fax: +49 7533 3048 > * eMail: ifd-stoetzer@t-online.de > * > ******************************** > > -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 10 15:32:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA04466; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:32:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA04462; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:32:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA09265; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA07777 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:30:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from kaizen.gel.com ([198.233.29.237]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA07404 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:29:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from gel.com ([198.233.29.14]) by kaizen.gel.com (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with ESMTP id AAA27805 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:28:16 -0400 Message-ID: <34676E9F.467BFEAF@gel.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:32:03 -0500 From: alan@kaizen.gel.com (Alan Johnson) Reply-To: alan.johnson@gel.com Organization: General Engineering Labs X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Net-Atalk mailing list Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems with netatalk on Solaris 2.5.1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------71CDF97E79A7FECC0E44817A" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------71CDF97E79A7FECC0E44817A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I seem to be having the same problems as many others are WRT DDP under Solaris/etc. To backtrack a bit: 1) Properly configured, one should see the Netatalk server in the Chooser, correct 2) my problems are recorded in my syslog as: Nov 10 13:56:50 newkaizen unix: WARNING: DDP:tpiIoctlData - Can't add multicast Nov 10 13:57:15 newkaizen unix: pseudo-device: vol0 Nov 10 13:57:15 newkaizen unix: vol0 is /pseudo/vol@0 Nov 10 13:57:17 newkaizen afpd[163]: Can't register server:AFPServer@* I have an atalkd.conf file that has a single line "le0 -zone EtherTalk" in it. 3) my attempts to do zone lookups/NBP on the server: # ./getzones atp_rresp: Connection timed out # ./nbplkup (yields nothing) 4) My TCP based connections work very nicely, thank you. 5) According to the asun docs, there is a beta STREAMS module, to assist with the problems under Solaris. Where might I find this? Specifics are: Solaris 2.5.1 netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a16 Any clues? TIA, Alan --------------71CDF97E79A7FECC0E44817A Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Alan Johnson Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Alan Johnson n: Johnson;Alan org: General Engineering Labs adr;dom: ;;2040 Savage Road;Charleston;SC;29414; email;internet: alan.johnson@gel.com title: IS Director tel;work: (803) 556-8171 tel;fax: (803) 766-1178 x-mozilla-cpt: raj.gel.com;2 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------71CDF97E79A7FECC0E44817A-- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 10 21:44:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA21935; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 21:44:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA21931; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 21:44:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA09491; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 21:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA09487 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 21:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from homer.mir.com.my (homer.mir.com.my [202.186.33.5]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA09483 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 21:44:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.195] (god.mir.com.my [192.168.1.195]) by homer.mir.com.my (8.8.7/8.8.5/PIH) with SMTP id KAA00881 Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:52:22 +0800 Message-Id: <199711110252.KAA00881@homer.mir.com.my> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Where to find AFP and DES library? Date: Tue, 11 Nov 97 10:44:25 +0800 x-sender: yeak@mail.mir.com.my x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: Yeak Nai Siew To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I tried to find in the netatalk home page, can't find any link to AFP and DES stuffs... I wish to compile netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17.2 with all that nice features in it. Any idea? Thanks. -- Yeak Nai Siew << Macintosh Forever >> Director, MIR Communications Sdn Bhd http://www.mir.com.my/ Creator of Mac Power User Group http://www.mir.com.my/mpug/ Fingerprint @_pgp_@ 3A6D 05D3 A3CE B8B7 20C3 CD63 DE82 732D From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Nov 11 03:51:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id DAA09968; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 03:51:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id DAA09964; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 03:51:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id DAA23107; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 03:51:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id DAA23105 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 03:51:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from homer.mir.com.my (homer.mir.com.my [202.186.33.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id DAA23090 for ; Tue, 11 Nov 1997 03:51:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.195] (god.mir.com.my [192.168.1.195]) by homer.mir.com.my (8.8.7/8.8.5/PIH) with SMTP id QAA02235 Tue, 11 Nov 1997 16:59:31 +0800 Message-Id: <199711110859.QAA02235@homer.mir.com.my> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Where to find AFP and DES library? Date: Tue, 11 Nov 97 16:51:30 +0800 x-sender: yeak@mail.mir.com.my x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: Yeak Nai Siew To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Opps.. sorry for wasting bandwidth... Found the hints in README.ASUN... :-) -- Yeak Nai Siew << Macintosh Forever >> Director, MIR Communications Sdn Bhd http://www.mir.com.my/ Creator of Mac Power User Group http://www.mir.com.my/mpug/ Fingerprint @_pgp_@ 3A6D 05D3 A3CE B8B7 20C3 CD63 DE82 732D From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Nov 12 17:21:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA06646; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:21:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA06642; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:21:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA08580; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:21:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA08538 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:21:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mintaka.isr.umd.edu (mintaka.isr.umd.edu [128.8.111.4]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA08407; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:21:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from rudra.isr.umd.edu (nath@rudra.isr.umd.edu [128.8.111.6]) by mintaka.isr.umd.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA08674; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:21:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:21:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Amarendranath Vadlamudi" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu cc: netatalk@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] AFS Privileges and MacOS8 In-Reply-To: <199711072107.NAA04949@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm using netatalk1.4b2 with the two official patches (the Solaris EAGAIN and the MacOS8 dancing icons) applied to it. This is in a Kerberos/AFS environment. I know that the "AFS Privileges" program distributed with the kerberos-AFS.sit.hqx on terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu used to work well with MacOS-7.6. However, after upgrading to MacOS8, the program just starts up, and stays in the spinning watch dial mode, before it locks up my machine. In some cases I have had it show the privileges with a whole lot of "i", "1", "0" symbols in the negative rights box. If I try to do anything after that, the program locks up. Has anyone else seen this behaviour ? Is there any recommended fix or any suggestions ? Is anyone using AFS Privileges version 1.50 with MacOS8 and netatalk1.4b2 and having no trouble ? Thanks in advance --Amar #################################################################### Amarendranath Vadlamudi Phone: 301-405-6597 Institute for Systems Research FAX: 301-314-9920 University of Maryland Email: nath@isr.umd.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Nov 13 11:45:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA15137; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:45:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu id LAA15128; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:45:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA13272; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:50:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA24256; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:50:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA24242 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:50:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from cegt201.bradley.edu (cegt201.bradley.edu [136.176.30.101]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA24232 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:50:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from eugene@localhost) by cegt201.bradley.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA25799; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:50:13 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:50:10 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Eugene Cohen Subject: [netatalk-admins] Feature Suggestion: AFP/TCP running as user, not root Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu As AFP 2.2 compliance (which adds TCP/IP support) starts getting folded into netatalk, there should not be the necessity for afpd to run as root. In the "old days" AppleTalk was the only transport, so the daemons had to run as root to access the raw network hardware. It should be possible now, if afpd is able run only supporting TCP/IP connections, to have the daemon run as something other than root. The only change that would need to be made would be support for perhaps a custom passwd file since many systems now support shadow authentication and only the root account can read the shadow file. Is the addition of the ability to run as a non-root user feasible given the source base? -Eugene From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Nov 13 12:10:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA16763; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:10:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA16756; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:10:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA21008; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:10:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA20955 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:10:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from schubert.promo.de (schubert.Promo.DE [194.45.188.65]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA20899 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:10:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA06133; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:06:43 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:09:14 +0100 To: Eugene Cohen From: Stefan Bethke Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Feature Suggestion: AFP/TCP running as user, not root Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 16:50 Uhr +0100 13.11.1997, Eugene Cohen wrote: >As AFP 2.2 compliance (which adds TCP/IP support) starts getting folded >into netatalk, there should not be the necessity for afpd to run as root. >In the "old days" AppleTalk was the only transport, so the daemons had to >run as root to access the raw network hardware. The limitation in socket(2) should be fairly easy to remove. I would believe it only got in there because you need root credentials to get a raw IP socket, so the netatalk team copied that. >It should be possible now, if afpd is able run only supporting TCP/IP >connections, to have the daemon run as something other than root. The only >change that would need to be made would be support for perhaps a custom >passwd file since many systems now support shadow authentication and only >the root account can read the shadow file. Is the addition of the ability >to run as a non-root user feasible given the source base? Probably not: for the child apfd to become the effective (logged-in) user, the master afpd must have appropiate privileges, and that usually means uid 0. What is your objection against running the master afpd as root, besides the usual wisdom of running as few as possible processes as root? Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-18 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Nov 13 12:57:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA19290; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:57:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA19286; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:56:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA09972; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:57:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA09968 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:57:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from cegt201.bradley.edu (cegt201.bradley.edu [136.176.30.101]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA07896 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:52:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from eugene@localhost) by cegt201.bradley.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA27675; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:50:48 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:50:51 -0600 To: Stefan Bethke From: Eugene Cohen Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Feature Suggestion: AFP/TCP running as user, not root Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu What I'm thinking of is the situation where a user, not an administrator, would like to mount the server on his Mac with the priviledges that his account on the server has. I'm envisioning an authentication scheme where the [AFP] logged in user keeps the UID of afpd. Under this scheme, a single (non-root) user could start the specially-configured afpd running on a high port number, and log in and access the server with the priviledges that their account on the server already has. In other words, the authentcation mechansim would not change the UID, but rather allow a single account (that of the user running afpd) access to the server. What I would like to do is to write a simple program on my Mac that would send an rsh command to a server to start afpd, log in and mount the volume, and later send another rsh command to stop afpd once I have logged out. (The sysadmins usually don't like us to keep daemon processes running all the time). I think this could be valuable to users out there. See what I'm getting at? Would this be too difficult to implement? -Eugene >>It should be possible now, if afpd is able run only supporting TCP/IP >>connections, to have the daemon run as something other than root. The only >>change that would need to be made would be support for perhaps a custom >>passwd file since many systems now support shadow authentication and only >>the root account can read the shadow file. Is the addition of the ability >>to run as a non-root user feasible given the source base? > >Probably not: for the child apfd to become the effective (logged-in) user, >the master afpd must have appropiate privileges, and that usually means uid >0. > >What is your objection against running the master afpd as root, besides the >usual wisdom of running as few as possible processes as root? From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Nov 13 19:09:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA16540; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:09:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA16496; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:09:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id TAA10704; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:10:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id TAA10695 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:10:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from coe.missouri.edu (tiger.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.20]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA10661 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:10:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from [128.206.158.52] (baroque.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.52]) by coe.missouri.edu (8.8.8/8.8.3) with SMTP id SAA06542 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:09:23 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:09:24 -0600 From: Mark Donnelly Reply-To: mark@coe.missouri.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Feature Suggestion: AFP/TCP running as user, not root To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Under this scheme, a >single (non-root) user could start the specially-configured afpd running on >a high port number, and log in and access the server with the priviledges >that their account on the server already has. In other words, the >authentcation mechansim would not change the UID, but rather allow a single >account (that of the user running afpd) access to the server. >-Eugene Well, I, for one, see at least one problem with this. As far as I can tell, there is only one port that a Macintosh client will try to connect to. So, again under this scheme, only one person would be allowed to use this at a time. That would be fairly rood if anyone else would like to try the same thing. It sounds like the BEST solution will be to have the system administrators run the daemon. However, if that isn't a possibility, I definately see some merit in your approach. --Mark "I think so Brain, but if they called them sad meals, then no one would buy them." From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Nov 13 19:12:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA17395; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:12:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA17140; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:11:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id TAA11567; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:12:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id TAA11448 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:12:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from wired.com (get.wired.com [204.62.131.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA11387 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:11:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (aarong@localhost) by wired.com (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA02633; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:10:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:10:35 -0800 (PST) From: Aaron Gowatch Reply-To: Aaron Gowatch To: Eugene Cohen cc: Stefan Bethke , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Feature Suggestion: AFP/TCP running as user, not root In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Wienie-Benders: Hanes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Eugene Cohen wrote: > What I'm thinking of is the situation where a user, not an administrator, > would like to mount the server on his Mac with the priviledges that his > account on the server has. This already happens with Netatalk, which is why the afpd child runs as the user that has logged in. > I'm envisioning an authentication scheme where the [AFP] logged in user > keeps the UID of afpd. Under this scheme, a single (non-root) user > could start the specially-configured afpd running on a high port number, > and log in and access the server with the priviledges that their account > on the server already has. In other words, the authentcation mechansim > would not change the UID, but rather allow a single account (that of the > user running afpd) access to the server. The parent afpd, which runs as root, forks a child process which runs as the user that is logging in. This child process has the same privileges as that of a user logged into their shell account. How will you get your Appletalk client to use this arbitrary port that you start afpd on? This requires more than a modification to the Netatalk sources, namely the source for the Appletalk client. The issues surrounding running multiple processes that try to use the same port are obvious... But honestly, this is a rather silly idea. Its a lot like saying "I dont want named running as root on my system, so everytime I need to lookup a name, I'll have the TCP stack rsh to my configured DNS host, startup named, I'll perform my query, have the TCP stack rsh my DNS host again and shutdown named. I'll do this everytime I want to perform a DNS lookup, and it will be better". Even if you *could* get it to work, the overhead saved is so minimal, its not even worth the effort to try to make it work, not to mention how slow it would be. For instance, if 10 users we're logged into your Netatalk box, there would be ~11 afpd processes. With the "rsh n' start" mechanism, there would be 10, only the process which runs as root would be missing. Aa. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 14 05:58:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id FAA06117; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 05:58:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id FAA06113; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 05:58:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id FAA22585; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 05:58:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id FAA22583 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 05:58:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from schubert.promo.de (schubert.Promo.DE [194.45.188.65]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id FAA22531 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 05:58:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08186; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:51:03 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:53:36 +0100 To: Eugene Cohen From: Stefan Bethke Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Feature Suggestion: AFP/TCP running as user, not root Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 18:50 Uhr +0100 13.11.1997, Eugene Cohen wrote: >What I'm thinking of is the situation where a user, not an administrator, >would like to mount the server on his Mac with the priviledges that his >account on the server has. I'm envisioning an authentication scheme where >the [AFP] logged in user keeps the UID of afpd. Under this scheme, a >single (non-root) user could start the specially-configured afpd running on >a high port number, and log in and access the server with the priviledges >that their account on the server already has. In other words, the >authentcation mechansim would not change the UID, but rather allow a single >account (that of the user running afpd) access to the server. > >What I would like to do is to write a simple program on my Mac that would >send an rsh command to a server to start afpd, log in and mount the volume, >and later send another rsh command to stop afpd once I have logged out. >(The sysadmins usually don't like us to keep daemon processes running all >the time). I think this could be valuable to users out there. See what >I'm getting at? Would this be too difficult to implement? I wrote: >>What is your objection against running the master afpd as root, besides the >>usual wisdom of running as few as possible processes as root? So what you want is cheat on your sysops :-) I think this could be done, but it might involve some serious code changes, and for me this isn't worthwile. Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-18 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 14 06:47:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA07180; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 06:47:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA07176; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 06:47:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id GAA26459; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 06:47:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id GAA26457 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 06:47:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from schubert.promo.de (schubert.Promo.DE [194.45.188.65]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA26423 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 06:47:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from [194.45.188.81] (stefan.Promo.DE [194.45.188.81]) by schubert.promo.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08366; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 12:40:08 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: stefan@mail.promo.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 12:42:40 +0100 To: mark@coe.missouri.edu From: Stefan Bethke Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Feature Suggestion: AFP/TCP running as user, not root Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 1:09 Uhr +0100 14.11.1997, Mark Donnelly wrote: >Well, I, for one, see at least one problem with this. As far as I can tell, >there is only one port that a Macintosh client will try to connect to. So, >again under this scheme, only one person would be allowed to use this at a >time. In the "Server IP Adress" dialog, enter host.do.main:1234 to connect to port 1234. Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Promo Datentechnik | Tel. +49-40-851744-18 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. +49-40-851744-44 Eduardstrasse 46-48 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-20257 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 14 10:01:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA12889; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:01:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA12878; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:01:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA07867; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:01:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA07843 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:01:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from cegt201.bradley.edu (cegt201.bradley.edu [136.176.30.101]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA07778 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:00:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from eugene@localhost) by cegt201.bradley.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA27232; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 09:00:33 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 08:59:28 -0600 To: Aaron Gowatch From: Eugene Cohen Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Feature Suggestion: AFP/TCP running as user, not root Cc: Stefan Bethke , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 6:10 PM -0600 11/13/97, Aaron Gowatch wrote: >But honestly, this is a rather silly idea. Its a lot like saying "I dont >want named running as root on my system, so everytime I need to lookup a >name, I'll have the TCP stack rsh to my configured DNS host, startup >named, I'll perform my query, have the TCP stack rsh my DNS host again and >shutdown named. I'll do this everytime I want to perform a DNS lookup, >and it will be better". > >Even if you *could* get it to work, the overhead saved is so minimal, its >not even worth the effort to try to make it work, not to mention how slow >it would be. For instance, if 10 users we're logged into your Netatalk >box, there would be ~11 afpd processes. With the "rsh n' start" >mechanism, there would be 10, only the process which runs as root would be >missing. I didn't think it was a silly idea. I don't want to run the daemon to server all the users of the system, I just want to bring it up OCCASIONALLY when I want to mount the server on *my* Mac with *my* account's permissions and nothing more. I am a user of the system, and do not have root access, but the sysadmins don't have the time or knowhow to install netatalk, and they would not mind if I ran it myself (if it was possible - this is what we're dicussing) occasionally. It isn't fair to compare what I am proposing to be used with named. That's not the purpose of what I'm saying. I don't want to save CPU necessarily, I just want non-root users to be able to run it. You dig? -Eugene From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 14 10:01:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA12897; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:01:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA12875; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:01:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA07864; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:01:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA07835 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:01:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from cegt201.bradley.edu (cegt201.bradley.edu [136.176.30.101]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA07763 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:00:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from eugene@localhost) by cegt201.bradley.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA27229; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 09:00:31 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 09:00:35 -0600 To: Stefan Bethke , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Eugene Cohen Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Feature Suggestion: AFP/TCP running as user, not root Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Stefan Bethke wrote: >>What I would like to do is to write a simple program on my Mac that would >>send an rsh command to a server to start afpd, log in and mount the volume, >>and later send another rsh command to stop afpd once I have logged out. >>(The sysadmins usually don't like us to keep daemon processes running all >>the time). I think this could be valuable to users out there. See what >>I'm getting at? Would this be too difficult to implement? > >So what you want is cheat on your sysops :-) > >I think this could be done, but it might involve some serious code changes, >and for me this isn't worthwile. I know my "sysops" won't mind if I don't keep the daemon running all the time. If I had time, I'd try to make the changes to the sources myself. Maybe someday I'll actually have the time. -Eugene From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 14 14:08:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA21394; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:08:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA21387; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:08:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA14980; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:08:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA14971 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:08:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA14951 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:08:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22550; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:40:59 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA20239; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:08:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:08:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711141908.LAA20239@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: eugene@cegt201.bradley.edu CC: aarong@wired.com, stefan@promo.de, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from Eugene Cohen on Fri, 14 Nov 1997 08:59:28 -0600) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Feature Suggestion: AFP/TCP running as user, not root Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I didn't think it was a silly idea. I don't want to run the daemon to server all the users of the system, I just want to bring it up OCCASIONALLY when I want to mount the server on *my* Mac with *my* account's permissions and nothing more. I am a user of the system, and do not have root access, but the sysadmins don't have the time or knowhow to install netatalk, and they would not mind if I ran it myself (if it was possible - this is what we're dicussing) occasionally. It isn't fair to compare what I am proposing to be used with named. That's not the purpose of what I'm saying. I don't want to save CPU necessarily, I just want non-root users to be able to run it. You dig? well, if people are really that interested in doing such a thing, it's fairly trivial to do. contrary to popular belief, the appletalk stuff should work almost without change. you're not using anything reserved there. the afp/tcp stuff needs to use a different port as the reserved port is root accessible only. so, *IF* you really want to do this and thereby open your account to who knows what, here's what you need to do: 1) edit auth.c and comment out the setgid/setuid calls. 2) realize that this will cause everything to be accessed as you. i.e., if you don't want someone else to use their password to access your stuff, you're going to have to edit auth.c again and make sure you actually check that the requesting password corresponds to the uid of the afpd process. 3) run with a different port, lock file, and AppleVolumes.* files. 4) caveat emptor once again, this matter is *completely* separate from afp/tcp vs. afp/ddp. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 14 14:15:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA21833; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:15:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA21820; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:15:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA04794; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:15:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA04791 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:15:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA04778 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:15:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22653; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:47:39 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA20308; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:15:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:15:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711141915.LAA20308@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: eugene@cegt201.bradley.edu, aarong@wired.com, stefan@promo.de, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199711141908.LAA20239@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> (message from a sun on Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:08:25 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Feature Suggestion: AFP/TCP running as user, not root Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu erk. i just realized that for the machines without appletalk built-in or already loaded, you'll have to disable that part from afpd. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 14 16:10:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA26791; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 16:10:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA26761; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 16:10:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA21064; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 16:10:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA20887 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 16:09:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from cegt201.bradley.edu (cegt201.bradley.edu [136.176.30.101]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA20298 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 16:08:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from eugene@localhost) by cegt201.bradley.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA02554; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 15:08:24 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199711141915.LAA20308@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> References: <199711141908.LAA20239@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> (message from a sun on Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:08:25 -0800 (PST)) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 15:08:31 -0600 To: a sun , aarong@wired.com, stefan@promo.de, netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Eugene Cohen Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: Feature Suggestion: AFP/TCP running as user, not root Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 1:15 PM -0600 11/14/97, a sun wrote: >erk. i just realized that for the machines without appletalk built-in >or already loaded, you'll have to disable that part from afpd. You mean running with the noddp switch isn't enough? So afpd currently needs to talk to the ddp implementation even if it's running over tcp only? The other thing that I alluded to earlier is that, unless I'm mistaken and that is quite possible, if the server is running a shadowed password system, then only the root account can authenticate users using the host's password files. Or am I mistaken in that there is some system call that can authenticate a user without actually revealing the encrypted password? This is why I thought there would have to be some code modification to support a different password file, or perhaps a single password (since this implementation would only be used by a single user). This wouldn't be too difficult to hack, I think. -Eugene From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 14 16:14:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA27066; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 16:14:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA27054; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 16:14:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA29757; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 16:14:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA29716 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 16:14:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA29123 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 16:13:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23696; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 12:45:02 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA20829; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:12:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:12:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711142112.NAA20829@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: eugene@cegt201.bradley.edu CC: aarong@wired.com, stefan@promo.de, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from Eugene Cohen on Fri, 14 Nov 1997 15:08:31 -0600) Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: Feature Suggestion: AFP/TCP running as user, not root Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 1:15 PM -0600 11/14/97, a sun wrote: >erk. i just realized that for the machines without appletalk built-in >or already loaded, you'll have to disable that part from afpd. You mean running with the noddp switch isn't enough? So afpd currently needs to talk to the ddp implementation even if it's running over tcp only? -noddp is enough. The other thing that I alluded to earlier is that, unless I'm mistaken and that is quite possible, if the server is running a shadowed password system, then only the root account can authenticate users using the host's password files. Or am I mistaken in that there is some system call that can authenticate a user without actually revealing the encrypted password? if the server is using shadow passwords, there's always ~/.passwd and using the 2-way randnum uam. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 14 17:01:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA00331; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:01:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA00327; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA19695; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:01:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA19660 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:01:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from wired.com (get.wired.com [204.62.131.5]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA19642 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:01:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (aarong@localhost) by wired.com (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA15276; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:00:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:59:58 -0800 (PST) From: Aaron Gowatch To: a sun cc: eugene@cegt201.bradley.edu, stefan@promo.de, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: Feature Suggestion: AFP/TCP running as user, not root In-Reply-To: <199711142112.NAA20829@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Message-ID: X-Wienie-Benders: Hanes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 14 Nov 1997, a sun wrote: > if the server is using shadow passwords, there's always ~/.passwd and > using the 2-way randnum uam. Wont this essentially revoke any privileges the user would have under normal circumstances? If not, though I believe it will, it would constitute a very serious security hole. What would stop a user from creating a passwd file that has a root entry with say, no passwd, then using that passwd file to authenticate himself as root? Short of rewriting getpwnam(), setuid(), setgid() and friends, I dont think it can be done. Aa. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 14 17:14:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA01250; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:14:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA01242; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:14:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA28743; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:14:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA28736 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:14:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA28626 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:14:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24251; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:46:13 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA21103; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:13:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:13:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711142213.OAA21103@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: aarong@wired.com CC: eugene@cegt201.bradley.edu, stefan@promo.de, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from Aaron Gowatch on Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:59:58 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: Feature Suggestion: AFP/TCP running as user, not root Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > if the server is using shadow passwords, there's always ~/.passwd and > using the 2-way randnum uam. Wont this essentially revoke any privileges the user would have under normal circumstances? If not, though I believe it will, it would constitute a very serious security hole. What would stop a user from creating a passwd file that has a root entry with say, no passwd, then using that passwd file to authenticate himself as root? Short of rewriting getpwnam(), setuid(), setgid() and friends, I dont think it can be done. um, man setuid()/setgid() would be called for here. unless you're root, you can't change your identity. the only hole can you open up is allowing others to access your appleshare volume as you. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 14 17:25:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA02088; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:25:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA02068; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:25:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA02578; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:25:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA02278 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:25:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from wired.com (get.wired.com [204.62.131.5]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA01770 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:23:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (aarong@localhost) by wired.com (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA20453; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:23:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:23:23 -0800 (PST) From: Aaron Gowatch To: a sun cc: eugene@cegt201.bradley.edu, stefan@promo.de, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: Feature Suggestion: AFP/TCP running as user, not root In-Reply-To: <199711142213.OAA21103@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Message-ID: X-Wienie-Benders: Hanes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 14 Nov 1997, a sun wrote: > um, man setuid()/setgid() would be called for here. unless you're > root, you can't change your identity. the only hole can you open up is > allowing others to access your appleshare volume as you. So maybe including setuid() and setgid() with the rest was probably going too far. Yes, after I sent the message I decided that if you ripped all of the auth stuff out, started afpd as yourself, you could in theory connect to the box with whatever permissions the process has. Finding out what port a user is running their afpd on could be as simple as running netstat -a. As a Sysadmin, security is an obvious concern. I'm glad that no one is trying to do this on one of our machines. Aa. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 14 18:43:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA05951; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 18:43:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id SAA05927; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 18:43:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id SAA05924; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 18:43:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id SAA05891; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 18:42:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711142342.SAA05891@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Aaron Gowatch cc: a sun , eugene@cegt201.bradley.edu, stefan@promo.de, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: Feature Suggestion: AFP/TCP running as user, not root In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:23:23 PST." Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 18:42:09 -0500 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu afpd doesn't, does not need to, run setuid root. And on most systems, it's not an error to setuid your current uid. When I'm debugging afpd, I often run it as myself. The number of glitches is really small. Like, afp/tcp needs a reserved port (someone mentioned the work-around), quotas probably won't work, the password file might be shadows. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 14 18:57:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA06752; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 18:57:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA06746; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 18:57:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA26290; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 18:57:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA26288 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 18:57:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA26284; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 18:57:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24909; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 15:29:23 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA21536; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 15:56:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 15:56:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711142356.PAA21536@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: wesley.craig@umich.edu CC: aarong@wired.com, eugene@cegt201.bradley.edu, stefan@promo.de, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199711142342.SAA05891@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> (wesley.craig@umich.edu) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: Feature Suggestion: AFP/TCP running as user, not root Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu afpd doesn't, does not need to, run setuid root. And on most systems, it's not an error to setuid your current uid. When I'm debugging afpd, I often run it as myself. The number of glitches is really small. Like, afp/tcp needs a reserved port (someone mentioned the work-around), quotas probably won't work, the password file might be shadows. my mistake. it's actually initgroups() that complains for me. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 14 19:17:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA07849; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:17:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA07845; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:17:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id TAA03015; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:18:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id TAA03008 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:18:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA02971 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:17:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id QAA27257; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 16:18:00 -0800 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 16:17:59 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: Aaron Gowatch cc: a sun , eugene@cegt201.bradley.edu, stefan@promo.de, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: Feature Suggestion: AFP/TCP running as user, not root In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Fri, 14 Nov 1997, Aaron Gowatch wrote: [user-started afpd's] > As a Sysadmin, security is an obvious concern. I'm glad that no one is > trying to do this on one of our machines. What is the concern? The afpd in question can not do anything the user can't do. In some ways, it can do less than a user at a command line (afpd AFAIK can't call arbitrary shell commands, so it can't get at buffer overruns). All such an afpd could do is what an ftp process run as the user could do. It could fill up partitions (either to quota or free space limits) which are writable by the user, or show files which are readable by the user. If the user would be ftp'ing in to get and store these files, I don't see how this is _less_ secure than ftp. Unless of course you have a kerberized ftp and compare it against plain-text password authentication on afpd. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Nov 15 12:32:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA17686; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:32:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA17682; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:32:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA28364; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:32:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA28362 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:32:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from thejestr.rutgers.edu (thejestr.rutgers.edu [128.6.209.58]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA28352 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:32:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (thejestr@localhost) by thejestr.rutgers.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA04775 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:33:38 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:33:37 -0500 (EST) From: TheJestr To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Need help w/ file/directory create modes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, I am setting up a netatalk server or about 80 end users. One of the Volumes/Apple share names that I have set up is called Groups. It's a Volume for the departments to share their files. Within the Volume are serveral department names: ART, MEDIA, MAGAZINE etc. There are Linux group names matching the department names ie. art, media and magazine. What I would like is for any files or directories copied into ART Folder to maintain the GID of art, Any files copied into the MEDIA to have media GID... you get the picture. So what i did was (first chgrp art ART, chgrp media MEDIA, chgrp magazine MAGAZINE) chmod -R 2770 ART MEDIA MAGAZINE. What happens is when I copy a file into any of these directories it maintains the GID of the respective GROUP. When I copy a directory into ART, MEDIA etc it too maintains the GID of the group, but! when I copy a file into a subdirectory of art (lets say I put a file in GROUPS/ART/FOODIR/) it takes the primary GID of the person copying the file. This is a HUGE problem as it means files copied into the subdir of ART can only be modified by its owner. Now, I am also running SAMBA and MARS-NWE (Netware Emulation) on this server and I do not have a problem, all files and subdirectories maintain the GID of art, media, etc when files and directories and subdirectories w/ files are put in the ART, MEDIA, MAGAZINE directory. Both of these applications (SAMBA/MARS) have settings for create mode values. Is there anything I can do netatalk not maintaining GIDs? Is there any setting in netatalk for file/directory creation mode values. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you TheJestr From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Nov 15 12:58:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA18467; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:58:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA18462; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:58:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA25510; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:58:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA25506 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:58:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from backup.MNSi.Net (backup.mnsi.net [206.48.122.8]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id MAA25497 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:58:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from winserver (dyn208-6-78-183.win.mnsi.net [208.6.78.183]) by backup.MNSi.Net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with ESMTP id MAA24344 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:50:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199711151750.MAA24344@backup.MNSi.Net> From: "prosoft" To: Subject: [netatalk-admins] NETATALK FOR SCO UNIX Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:54:57 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Does anyone have a version of this software that will run under OPENSERVER 5.0.2 release of SCO UNIX. I am trying to integrate a mid-size (20 station) MAC network with an application running on the SCO server. There are about 8 printers involved, all on the Mac network and only one I can communicate with currently (A LASERWRITER 16/600 PS which I can assign an IP address to and print using TCP/IP. Yours in chaos, Ron Renaud prosoft@mnsi.net OR ron.renaud@sympatico.ca From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Nov 15 13:23:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA19305; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 13:23:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id NAA19298; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 13:23:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id NAA19296; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 13:23:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA19286; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 13:23:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711151823.NAA19286@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: TheJestr cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Need help w/ file/directory create modes In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 15 Nov 1997 12:33:37 EST." Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 13:23:04 -0500 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: TheJestr > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Is there anything I can do netatalk not maintaining GIDs? Is there any > setting in netatalk for file/directory creation mode values. You can set this in /etc/fstab with the "grpid" mount option. This means that files are created with BSD sematics, i.e. new file system objects inherit the group of the containing directory. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Nov 16 18:36:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA08418; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 18:36:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from koro.off.connect.com.au (koro.off.connect.com.au [192.94.41.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA08414; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 18:36:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from connect.com.au (pc125.mel.off.connect.com.au [203.63.68.125]) by koro.off.connect.com.au with ESMTP id KAA01231 (8.8.5/IDA-1.6 for ); Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:36:27 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <346F836A.6C2110EA@connect.com.au> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:36:10 +1100 From: Paul Rosham Reply-To: paulr@connect.com.au Organization: connect.com.au Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.6 References: <199711162254.RAA07899@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Has anyone compiled Netatalk on Solaris 2.6 with GCC 2.7.2.3? Could you please forward me any hints as to how to successfully compile this? thanks, -- Paul Rosham connect.com.au MIS Manager 9/114 Albert Road Ph: (03) 9251 3601 South Melbourne VIC 3205 Fax: (03) 9251 3666 AUSTRALIA From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Nov 16 19:02:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA09289; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:02:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from cmu1.acs.cmu.edu (CMU1.ACS.CMU.EDU [128.2.35.186]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA09285; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:02:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from andrew.cmu.edu (CORDELIA.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.88.15]) by cmu1.acs.cmu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29120; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:02:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <346F899E.4D7AFB10@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:02:38 -0500 From: "John B. Lee" Organization: Carnegie Mellon University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.31 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Kerberos only? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is it possible to compile netatalk with Kerberos only (i.e. Kerberos, but no AFS)? I tried just specifying KRBDIR and not AFSDIR, but the compile choked looking for the file oosconf.h which does exist in my Kerb IV dist. Thanks, John B. Lee From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 17 09:11:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA18584; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:11:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA18580; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:11:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA08685; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:11:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA08667 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:11:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id JAA08474 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:11:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18333; Mon, 17 Nov 97 14:10:33 GMT Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:09:18 GMT From: John Barry -Technician Received: from sonic (sonic.tees) by scorch; Mon, 17 Nov 97 14:12:06 GMT Date: Mon, 17 Nov 97 14:12:16 GMT Message-Id: <13168.9711171412@sonic> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Network packets? Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, We're having a bit of a network problem UNIX wise here, so to cover my ass I'm going to ask a stupid question.... Does netatalk (asun15) dump appletalk packets onto the ethernet? I'm running netatalk on a SPARCstation 2, the macs are all on a subnet via BNC, with the rest of the UNIX network comming in over udp from a hub. At first I thought it was the network slowdown more common to the mac server side of things, but after extensive tests it looks like the whole network is suffering the same fate. my atalkd.conf looks like this: le1 -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -addr 65280.240 Basically I need to make sure that appletalk stays confined to the subnet the macs are on, and that it doesn't start routing or anything else to the rest of the UNIX network, so when the inevitable arguments start, I'm covered. later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 17 16:01:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA04850; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:01:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA04846; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:01:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA07529; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:01:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA07470 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:01:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from reptile.clc.cc.il.us (reptile.clc.cc.il.us [207.57.239.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA07446 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:01:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kermit@localhost) by reptile.clc.cc.il.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA01197; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:31:39 -0600 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:31:39 -0600 (CST) From: Matt Isleb To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] NIS authentication Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hey ppl, I just got netatalk runnning on a linux box with shadow password... BUT.. I want more. i have users that exist through NIS from a Solaris server. Is there a way to have auth.c in afpd also check NIS to authenticate users? This is kinda important. Does auth.c not use traditional methods for authenicating users? Matt From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 17 16:17:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA06209; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:17:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA06159; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:17:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA14213; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:17:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA14175 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:17:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from barrichello.ucr.edu (mail.cs.ucr.edu [138.23.169.107]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA14093 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:16:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from besvis.ben.net (ppp-207-104-66-51.rvsd01.pacbell.net [207.104.66.51]) by barrichello.ucr.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA17043; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:16:44 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971117130937.006c407c@mail.cs.ucr.edu> X-Sender: bpayne@mail.cs.ucr.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:09:37 -0800 To: Matt Isleb , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Ben Payne Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NIS authentication In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu it was always my understanding that netatalk either used libc or pam to do all authentication (depending on compile options) and since both support NIS this shouldn't be a problem. Please let me know if I'm wrong, since I will be doing the same soon. -> Ben Payne At 03:31 PM 11/17/97 -0600, Matt Isleb wrote: >Hey ppl, > >I just got netatalk runnning on a linux box with shadow password... BUT.. >I want more. i have users that exist through NIS from a Solaris server. Is >there a way to have auth.c in afpd also check NIS to authenticate users? >This is kinda important. > >Does auth.c not use traditional methods for authenicating users? > >Matt > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 17 16:44:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA08316; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:44:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA08309; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:44:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA02107; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:44:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA01761 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:43:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from reptile.clc.cc.il.us (reptile.clc.cc.il.us [207.57.239.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA01593 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kermit@localhost) by reptile.clc.cc.il.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA01368; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:13:53 -0600 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:13:52 -0600 (CST) From: Matt Isleb To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NIS authentication In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971117130937.006c407c@mail.cs.ucr.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Ben Payne wrote: > it was always my understanding that netatalk either used libc or pam to do > all authentication (depending on compile options) and since both support > NIS this shouldn't be a problem. Please let me know if I'm wrong, since I > will be doing the same soon. > > -> Ben Payne It doesn't use PAM, that is for sure. Well the distributed one doesn't anyway. There is a redhat rpm version that is hacked to use PAM. You can find at your favorite redhat/contrib/i386/RPMS directory structure. I have NIS and as far as I can tell, users that exist via NIS can't login to the netatalk server. I may have done somethign wrong tho. Matt From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 17 17:06:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA09570; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:06:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA09528; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:05:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA25451; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:06:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA24668 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:05:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from jots1.ca.metsci.com (jots1.ca.metsci.com [199.106.147.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id RAA24461 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:04:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomcat.ca.metsci.com by jots1.ca.metsci.com with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA05977; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:04:19 -0800 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:03:09 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Solmssen To: Netatalk List Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NIS authentication In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have this working just fine on a Red Hat 4.2 server. I compiled 1.4b2 locally with the NISified libc (NYS?) and it all just works... ---- Andrew On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Matt Isleb wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Ben Payne wrote: > > > it was always my understanding that netatalk either used libc or pam to do > > all authentication (depending on compile options) and since both support > > NIS this shouldn't be a problem. Please let me know if I'm wrong, since I > > will be doing the same soon. > > > > -> Ben Payne > > It doesn't use PAM, that is for sure. Well the distributed one > doesn't anyway. There is a redhat rpm version that is hacked to use PAM. > You can find at your favorite redhat/contrib/i386/RPMS directory structure. > > I have NIS and as far as I can tell, users that > exist via NIS can't login to the netatalk server. I may have done > somethign wrong tho. > > Matt > > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 17 17:34:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA11025; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:34:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA11004; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:33:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA19088; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:33:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA18758 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:33:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from reptile.clc.cc.il.us (reptile.clc.cc.il.us [207.57.239.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA18704 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:33:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kermit@localhost) by reptile.clc.cc.il.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA01538; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:03:34 -0600 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:03:33 -0600 (CST) From: Matt Isleb To: Netatalk List Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NIS authentication In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Andrew Solmssen wrote: > I have this working just fine on a Red Hat 4.2 server. I compiled 1.4b2 > locally with the NISified libc (NYS?) and it all just works... I just assumed i had an NISified libc because everything else "just works" with NIS. Maybe I will try netatalk 1.4b2. I have Redhat 3.0.3 with a newer libc5. It isn't the one that came with 3.0.3.. i dont' remeber where I got it. Matt From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 17 17:49:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA12421; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:49:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA12417; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:49:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA02257; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:49:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA02151 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:48:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from oeb.harvard.edu (oeb.harvard.edu [140.247.96.165]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA01930 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:47:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from oeb.harvard.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oeb.harvard.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA10424 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:45:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199711172245.RAA10424@oeb.harvard.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Printing with papd Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:45:13 -0500 From: William Knox Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm having a problem with printing via the papd protocol. I've set up a printer in my /etc/papd.conf file, and it appears fine in my Chooser, but when I send a job to it, it goes to the system default printer instead of to the one configured in the papd.conf. I am using the version of netatalk that comes from the contrib section of the redhat site (a hacked version of 1.4b2-1, I understand). Can anyone help me out with this? Thanks. Bill Knox (wknox@oeb.harvard.edu) Harvard University Herbaria (617) 496-3023 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 17 17:52:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA12958; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:52:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA12898; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA18511; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:53:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA17987 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:51:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from barrichello.ucr.edu (mail.cs.ucr.edu [138.23.169.107]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA17954 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:51:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from besvis.ben.net (ppp-207-104-66-10.rvsd01.pacbell.net [207.104.66.10]) by barrichello.ucr.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA19088; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:50:38 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971117144256.006c1fa8@mail.cs.ucr.edu> X-Sender: bpayne@mail.cs.ucr.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 14:42:56 -0800 To: Matt Isleb , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Ben Payne Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NIS authentication In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.19971117130937.006c407c@mail.cs.ucr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I decided to scroll threw auth.c in the 1.4b2 source and it appears that all requests for user info go threw libc. (getpwnam, etc...) So as long as you have a libc working with NIS you should be fine with netatalk, which means if the user can log into the server they should beable to login w/ netatalk. BTW - I normally run the asun patch which does support PAM. -> Ben At 04:13 PM 11/17/97 -0600, Matt Isleb wrote: > >On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Ben Payne wrote: > >> it was always my understanding that netatalk either used libc or pam to do >> all authentication (depending on compile options) and since both support >> NIS this shouldn't be a problem. Please let me know if I'm wrong, since I >> will be doing the same soon. >> >> -> Ben Payne > >It doesn't use PAM, that is for sure. Well the distributed one >doesn't anyway. There is a redhat rpm version that is hacked to use PAM. >You can find at your favorite redhat/contrib/i386/RPMS directory structure. > >I have NIS and as far as I can tell, users that >exist via NIS can't login to the netatalk server. I may have done >somethign wrong tho. > >Matt > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Nov 18 01:44:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id BAA19881; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 01:44:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id BAA19877; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 01:44:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA09754; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 01:44:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA09752 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 01:44:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from reptile.clc.cc.il.us (reptile.clc.cc.il.us [207.57.239.2]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id BAA09748 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 01:44:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from kermit@localhost) by reptile.clc.cc.il.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA04321; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 01:15:22 -0600 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 01:15:22 -0600 (CST) From: Matt Isleb To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NIS authentication In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971117144256.006c1fa8@mail.cs.ucr.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Ben Payne wrote: > I decided to scroll threw auth.c in the 1.4b2 source and it appears that > all requests for user info go threw libc. (getpwnam, etc...) So as long as > you have a libc working with NIS you should be fine with netatalk, which > means if the user can log into the server they should beable to login w/ > netatalk. BTW - I normally run the asun patch which does support PAM. Well, i just got 1.4b and NIS users still can't log in. I can su to them and login via telnet with the username but i can't login via apletalk... Any tips? Matt From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Nov 18 04:17:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id EAA27104; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 04:17:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id EAA27100; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 04:17:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA07951; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 04:17:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA07949 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 04:17:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id EAA07932 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 04:17:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26496; Tue, 18 Nov 97 09:17:22 GMT Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 09:17:17 GMT From: John Barry -Technician Received: from pat (pat.tees) by scorch; Tue, 18 Nov 97 09:20:06 GMT Date: Tue, 18 Nov 97 09:18:11 GMT Message-Id: <824.9711180918@pat> To: taholmes@pacbell.net Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Network packets? Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, > > >my atalkd.conf looks like this: > >le1 -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -addr 65280.240 > > Try running the daemon without the '-net ' and > '-addr' options, These will automatically be > set when it starts, this is wise especially if there > are already router(s) on your network. > > -Todd I started atalkd without the .conf file, so it created the one above, but it still doesn't answer my question of whether netatalk is placing packets onto the wider unix network via le0 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Nov 18 08:08:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA21109; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 08:08:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA21084; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 08:08:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA02586; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 08:08:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA02582 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 08:08:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA02258 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 08:07:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA21213; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:05:51 GMT Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:05:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: John Barry -Technician cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Network packets? In-Reply-To: <824.9711180918@pat> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Appletalk packets should not be sent out of an interface that does not have a line in /etc/atalkd.conf, with the exception of the loopback interface, and possibly when atalkd is starting up. On Tue, 18 Nov 1997, John Barry -Technician wrote: > Hi, > > > > >my atalkd.conf looks like this: > > >le1 -phase 2 -net 0-65534 -addr 65280.240 > > > > Try running the daemon without the '-net ' and > > '-addr' options, These will automatically be > > set when it starts, this is wise especially if there > > are already router(s) on your network. > > > > -Todd > > I started atalkd without the .conf file, so it created the one above, but it > still doesn't answer my question of whether netatalk is placing packets onto > the wider unix network via le0 > -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Nov 18 16:40:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA28180; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:40:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA28175; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:40:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA01316; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:40:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA01311 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:40:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from barrichello.ucr.edu (mail.cs.ucr.edu [138.23.169.107]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA01296 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 16:40:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from besvis.ben.net (ppp-207-104-66-75.rvsd01.pacbell.net [207.104.66.75]) by barrichello.ucr.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA04400; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:39:08 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971118133140.006c9540@mail.cs.ucr.edu> X-Sender: bpayne@mail.cs.ucr.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 13:31:40 -0800 To: Matt Isleb , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Ben Payne Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NIS authentication In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.19971117144256.006c1fa8@mail.cs.ucr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu It sounds like the libc doesn't support NIS. I believe login under 3.0.3 is still staticly linked, which would explain why users could log in and not get into netatalk, look for an updated libc on redhats site or one that you know has NIS support. You can always get the libc source and compile it too. You should not need to recompile netatalk after upgrading. -> Ben At 01:15 AM 11/18/97 -0600, Matt Isleb wrote: > >On Mon, 17 Nov 1997, Ben Payne wrote: > >> I decided to scroll threw auth.c in the 1.4b2 source and it appears that >> all requests for user info go threw libc. (getpwnam, etc...) So as long as >> you have a libc working with NIS you should be fine with netatalk, which >> means if the user can log into the server they should beable to login w/ >> netatalk. BTW - I normally run the asun patch which does support PAM. > > >Well, i just got 1.4b and NIS users still can't log in. I can su to them >and login via telnet with the username but i can't login via apletalk... >Any tips? > >Matt > > From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Nov 19 06:33:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA24238; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 06:33:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA24234; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 06:33:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA28366; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 06:33:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA28364 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 06:33:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.dom.de (mail.dom.de [194.77.86.5]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA28350 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 06:33:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from vom.dom.de (vom.dom.de [194.77.86.80]) by mail.dom.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA10928 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:33:12 +0100 From: "Markus" To: Subject: [netatalk-admins] Fix your netatalk as it will break before 2.2 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:30:51 +0100 Message-ID: <01bcf4de$97479860$50564dc2@vom.dom.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0064_01BCF4E6.F90C0060" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01BCF4E6.F90C0060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, i have 1.4b2 running on a linux box (2.1.64). my syslog shows the = following message: kernel: SO_BROADCAST: Fix your netatalk as it will break before 2.2 still everything seems to work fine but what the heck i'm facing?!! markus ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01BCF4E6.F90C0060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi, 
 
i have 1.4b2 running on = a linux box=20 (2.1.64). my syslog shows the following message:
 
kernel: SO_BROADCAST: = Fix your=20 netatalk as it will break before 2.2
 
still everything seems = to work fine=20 but what the heck i'm facing?!!
 
markus
------=_NextPart_000_0064_01BCF4E6.F90C0060-- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Nov 20 10:18:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA12921; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:18:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA12917; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:18:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id KAA28157; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:19:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id KAA28130 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:19:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from scruz.net (nic.scruz.net [165.227.1.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA28113; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:19:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from lem ([192.136.8.35]) by scruz.net (8.8.5/1.34) with SMTP id HAA29537; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 07:18:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus.emu.com by lem (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15284; Thu, 20 Nov 97 07:16:35 PST Received: by zeus.emu.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16992; Thu, 20 Nov 97 07:16:34 PST Date: Thu, 20 Nov 97 07:16:34 PST From: rickk@emu.com (Rick Kleffel) Message-Id: <9711201516.AA16992@zeus.emu.com> To: netatalk@umich.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems with PAPD Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sirs, I am having problems getting papd to work. We are using Apple System 7.x, Laserwriter 8 drivers. The atalk daemon is running on Sun Sparc 5, SunOS 4.1.4. Here's the papd.conf: chronos-little:\ :lp=:rm=chronos:rp=little:\ :pd=/usr/atalk/etc/ppd/lzr_1560.ppd:\ :lf=/usr/adm/lpd-errs: The printer is local to chronos. Here's the printcap: little|post1|Asize|dp11|littlep|Asizep|dp11p:\ :lp=/dev/pm00:\ :sd=/usr/spool/little:\ :of=/usr/local/bin/littlepr:\ :ms=-opost:sh:\ Here's the atalkd.conf: le0 -phase 2 -net 2 -addr 2.140 -zone "EtherTalk" Here's what I get in lpd-errs: Nov 20 06:59:46 chronos papd[2075]: restart Nov 20 06:59:52 chronos papd[2075]: register chronos-little:LaserWriter@* Nov 20 07:00:37 chronos papd[2075]: child 2138 for "chronos-little" from 2.26 ps -axl yields: 88001 0 2138 2075 0 1 0 56 200 select S ? 0:00 /usr/atalk/e Presumably, this should work. However, the mac is Can't open printer'. It also says that 'lj is ready and printing[]' the '[]' is actually a square control character. I'm hoping that there is some obvious step that I am missing. The printer is a Dataproducts LZR 1560. I obtained the ppd file from the Adobe site. here is the head of the file: *PPD-Adobe: "4.0" *% Adobe Systems PostScript(R) Printer Description File *% Copyright 1987-1993 Adobe Systems Incorporated. *% All Rights Reserved. *% Permission is granted for redistribution of this file as *% long as this copyright notice is intact and the contents *% of the file is not altered in any way from its original form. *% End of Copyright statement *FormatVersion: "4.0" *FileVersion: "1.4" The file is in the correct format; that is, there are line breaks. Thanks, --Rick Kleffel (Bartleby The Scrivener) From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 21 06:04:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA16548; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 06:04:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA16544; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 06:04:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id GAA27130; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 06:05:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id GAA27128 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 06:05:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailout01.btx.dtag.de (mailout01.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.149]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id GAA27124 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 06:05:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from fwd05.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.165] by mailout01.btx.dtag.de with smtp id 0xYq8T-0004WN-00; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:16:29 +0100 Received: from linux.ifd.de (075338050-0001(btxid)@[193.158.174.161]) by fwd05.btx.dtag.de with smtp (S3.1.29.1) id ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 11:16:05 +0100 Received: (from root@localhost) by linux.ifd.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA00454 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:23:04 +0100 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:23:04 +0100 Message-Id: <199711191123.MAA00454@linux.ifd.de> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Shadow Password X-Sender: 075338050-0001@t-online.de From: ifd-stoetzer@t-online.de (root) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi to all! We are using Netatalk 1.4b2 on a Linux System. We'v heard about the Eudora tool poppassd to change the password via the Eudora Mail Programm. But we can't succed in using it together with shadow passwords. While compiling with the shadow option -DHAS_SHADOW turned on, it always stops with an error message: poppassd.o: In function `chkPass': poppassd.o(.text+0xb20): undefined reference to `pw_encrypt' make: *** [poppassd] Error 1 Because the source file is date May 1995, I think there should be an newer one. I received the files in a package named "poppassd-1.2". Does anybody know some hints? Thank's in advance. Jann Wegner Insitut fuer Demoskopie Allensbach ifd-stoetzer@t-online.de From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 21 10:35:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA23738; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:35:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA23729; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:35:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id KAA08348; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:36:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id KAA08340 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:36:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from esoc.esa.de (com24.esoc.esa.de [131.176.86.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id KAA08325 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:36:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by esoc.esa.de (8.6.12/ESARLY1.8) id OAA02599; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:40:28 GMT Received: from sce10.sced.esoc.esa.de(131.176.65.195) by com24.esoc.esa.de via smap (V3.1.1) id xma002596; Fri, 21 Nov 97 14:40:16 GMT Received: from sce162.esoc.esa.de by sced.esoc.esa.de (4.1/ESASRV1.7x) id AA27350; Fri, 21 Nov 97 14:45:44 GMT Received: from sce162 by sce162.esoc.esa.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA12204; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:45:32 GMT Message-Id: <34759E8C.35E1@esoc.esa.de> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:45:32 +0000 From: Niall O Broin X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] More System 8 / 1.4b2 problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have a site where we've been using 1.3.3 and various versions of System 7 for some time and we were as happy as pigs in ****. Then the fatal decision was made to go to System 8. This seemed to work for some time but then with one folder we started getting the dancing icons/file count which is, I gather, a known problem. (In our case, the file count would go from X gradually up to 2X in a minute or so, and then back down to X again - is this the common fault ?) Interestingly, we only got that in a folder of files which didn't have resource forks - is this maybe a factor ? (Background - the server is a Linux box and a process is run there which extracts a bunch of images from an archive and puts them in a folder. From there, they're put onto a Zip disk using a Mac and sent to customers. One customer has changed to the PC platform [silly customer] and hence we needed to produce the same files in a PC happy format i.e. 8.3 names. So, I modified the server script to make hard links to the data forks of the image files in a separate folder and it is this folder which suffers from the dancing icons. I suspect that this may be related to the lack of resource forks, but am I right ? A large number of files disappeared from the server and when I restored them from tape, they also appeared in one Mac's wastebasket (i.e. as well as where they should be). I figured this might be related to some kind of inconsistency on the server's filesystem so I shut it down and checked the filesystem. I also removed the Network Trash Folder - this was not empty after all the Macs had disconnected from the network - shouldn't it be ? This seemed to fix that problem, but since then, we've had problems with files put in the trash on one Mac becoming visible in the trash on another Mac. Any sane comments would be appreciated, before it drives us insane :-) BTW I haven't yet installed the asun modifications. I got them, but the README mentions mostly TCP/IP support which I'm not using yet. It also mentions large volume support, and I am using large volumes (4G) but I never had any problems with this with 1.3.3 and 7.5/7.6 clients. -- Kindest regards, Niall O Broin UNIX Network Administrator nobroin@esoc.esa.de Ground Systems Engineering Department Ph./Fax +49 6151 90 3619/2179 European Space Operations Centre, Darmstadt, Germany From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 21 12:16:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA28029; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:16:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA28025; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:16:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA22900; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:17:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA22710 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:16:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from ux4.sp.cs.cmu.edu (UX4.SP.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.198.104]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id MAA22639 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:16:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from FISH.PRODIGY.CS.CMU.EDU by ux4.sp.cs.cmu.edu id aa09416; 21 Nov 97 12:15 EST X-Sender: will@ux4.sp.cs.cmu.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <34759E8C.35E1@esoc.esa.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:15:29 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: William Uther Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] More System 8 / 1.4b2 problems Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I've also just recently noticed a very strange problem. I have 1.4b2 with the system 8 patches. That has been fine for about a month or two, then yesterday, I started accessing a new directory. There were some sym-linked files in that directory. Netatalk would only show the sym-links, not the original files. More specifically, the original files did the system 8 dancing thing. Is the standard system 8 patch confused by sym-links? \x/ill :-} William Uther If at first you DO succeed, will@cs.cmu.edu try not to look astonished. Dept. of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~will/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 21 15:14:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA05331; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:14:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA05323; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:14:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA03723; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:14:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA03265 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:13:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from nora.hbk-bs.de (ip193-175-242-144.hbk-bs.de [193.175.242.144]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA02335 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:10:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by nora.hbk-bs.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA02128 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:10:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from spock.hbk-bs.de(193.175.242.145) by nora.hbk-bs.de via smap (V2.0) id xma002126; Fri, 21 Nov 97 21:09:52 +0100 Received: from marvin.hbk-bs.de by spock.hbk-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA05200; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:09:52 +0100 Received: by marvin.hbk-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA03546; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:09:51 +0100 From: h.foest@hbk-bs.de (Hanno Foest) Message-Id: <199711212009.VAA03546@marvin.hbk-bs.de> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Shadow Password In-Reply-To: <199711191123.MAA00454@linux.ifd.de> from root at "Nov 19, 97 12:23:04 pm" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:09:51 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! > But we can't succed in using it together with shadow > passwords. While compiling with the shadow option -DHAS_SHADOW turned > on, it always stops with an error message: > > poppassd.o: In function `chkPass': > poppassd.o(.text+0xb20): undefined reference to `pw_encrypt' > make: *** [poppassd] Error 1 Sounds familiar, I had this with Qualcomm's (Eudora is from Qualcomm!) qpopper2.4 pop3 daemon package when switching to shadow passwords on a RedHat 4.2 Linux system. pw_encrypt is the crypt(3) equivalent for double-length passwords. Since there are security problems with double-length passwords, a lot of unixes don't have this function. For some reason this isn't detected. Just change pw_encrypt to crypt and it should work. > Because the source file is date May 1995, I think there should be > an newer one. I received the files in a package named "poppassd-1.2". It is definetely a good idea to use the latest version of the package. It sounds interesting, I'll have a look into it myself. Hanno From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 21 16:09:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA08059; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 16:09:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA08048; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 16:09:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA25265; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 16:10:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA25229 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 16:10:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from bert.ds.fh-koeln.de (bert.DS.FH-Koeln.DE [139.6.141.251]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA25138 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 16:10:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from pc01.cf.de (call4.ds.fh-koeln.de [139.6.141.74]) by bert.ds.fh-koeln.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA22823; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 22:08:18 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971121220743.006b0714@wallace.khm.de> X-Sender: owrede@wallace.khm.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 22:07:43 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, LINUX-ATALK@NETSPACE.ORG From: Oliver Wrede Subject: [netatalk-admins] Slightly Off-Topic: MacOS as server or Linux? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello, my question ist slightly off-topic, but I think here are many people who can answer with all of their experience. So excuse me please. I need an advice. We are an educational institution with 300-400 users and aprox. 30-50 client machines (mostly Macintosh) We have to update our server infrastructure soon. Of course we want to get as much features and benefit we can out of the investment we can make. We have a Mac-only LAN (just 4-5 Windows NT machines for doing CAD and 3D stuff) Our current main Internet-Server is a Linux box with only few diskspace, but doing all the tricks you can want. Right now, we have the problem with UNIX, that there are only two, who can administer this machine. We are considering to hire somone full-time to do the administration (whether server platform is MacOS, Rhapsody, Linux or NT is yet to be decided, but we want that person to be able to handle it) My current opinion is, that if there is someone, who can handle the Linux box, we can use the money to buy a bulk Intel machine with huge diskspace (mybe a RAID disk) and best-of backup devices. Is there any argument against this? Should we better buy a MacOS machine as server and wait for Rhapsody? Could we plan to switch to Rhapsody on the intel machine later? What would you do with if you had - say - $30,000 left to invest? Oliver --- . Oliver Wrede . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . owrede@ds.fh-koeln.de . . tel. +49 2203 913 200 . office +49 221 9522 601 . fax +49 221 9522 605 . . School of Design, University of Applied Science, Cologne . . . . . . . . . . http://www.ds.fh-koeln.de/~owrede/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 21 18:36:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA18514; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:36:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA18508; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:36:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA14531; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:36:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA14529 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:36:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com ([209.1.224.30]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA14524 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:36:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from da-bitch (bok.whoi.edu [128.128.25.138]) by geocities.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA23355 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:36:07 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711212336.PAA23355@geocities.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: neurophyre@geocities.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:45:27 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [netatalk-admins] problem logging in, 1.4b2 patched, OS8 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I just recently installed netatalk 1.4b2 with the sparclinux and afpd.macos8 patches on a SPARCstation IPC running Red Hat linux 4.2 (kernel 2.0.30). I can see the server fine from the chooser, and can log in as guest without incident (although nothing is available once logged in). However, I can't seem to log in using a valid login and password. I'm not sure if its a problem or if it's something I'm simply not doing right. FYI, I am using shadow passwords. When I select Registered User from the chooser:appleshare window, a dialog box comes up with name and password fields (this is OS8). The name defaults to what is apparently the macOS system name (which is nothing close to a TCP/IP hostname.. dunno if that makes any difference). When I try a valid username in the name field, and the corresponding password, it gives me password incorrect. I made sure that the shell (/bin/bash) for the users in question does in fact exist, so no luck with that piece of advice. TIA --- ~ Neurophyre --- neurophyre[at]geocities.com From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Nov 22 08:32:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA28965; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 08:32:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA28959; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 08:32:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA11952; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 08:33:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA11949 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 08:33:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from sid.trust.ee (sid.trust.ee [194.204.23.180]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA11944 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 08:33:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from sid.trust.ee (wink.trust.ee [194.204.23.184]) by sid.trust.ee (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04064; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 15:32:07 +0200 Message-ID: <3476DE65.E1DABF@sid.trust.ee> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 15:30:14 +0200 From: Hannu Krosing X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Oliver Wrede CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, LINUX-ATALK@NETSPACE.ORG, linux-vortex-bug@cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Slightly Off-Topic: MacOS as server or Linux? References: <3.0.3.32.19971121220743.006b0714@wallace.khm.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Oliver Wrede wrote: > My current opinion is, that if there is someone, who can > handle the Linux box, we can use the money to buy a bulk > Intel machine with huge diskspace (mybe a RAID disk) and > best-of backup devices. As long as you don't buy 3com cards with it. I had to go back to NT server after spending a whole week trying to get netatalk with IP (from ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/pub/user-supported/asun/) running at 100Mb/s (it ran fine with 10Mb/s, about 1.5 times faster than NT without IP support and more than twice as fast as plain ethertalk between Mac boxes. We could have used it at 10 Mb/s and still be better off than we are now but we had already bought a 100Mb/s hub and our 10Mb/s hub was full ;( Now we get throughput of about 900kb/sek from appletalk and NT server running 100Mb/s while it used to be over 1000 using IP /linux/10Mb/s. And it was much snappier too - better reaction times when clicking a disk icon and so on. As I found out later by joining the linux-vortex-bug mailing list, there are severe problems with 3com 100Mb/s cards after merging the drivers. There are reports that DEC Tulip based cards (for example from D-Link) are rock-stable and fast. I'm going toi give it another try when I have received mine. I did not suspect the cards at first, as I had had very good experience with them from the times when the driver was a separate one called boomerang. > Is there any argument against this? Should we better buy > a MacOS machine as server and wait for Rhapsody? Could > we plan to switch to Rhapsody on the intel machine later? Waiting is always a safe plan ;) > What would you do with if you had - say - $30,000 left > to invest? It's way too much Hannu From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Nov 22 13:45:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA06270; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:45:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA06265; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:45:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id NAA23878; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:46:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id NAA23876 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:46:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomcat.ns.net (tomcat.ns.net [204.119.240.11]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA23872 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:46:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from [204.119.243.162] (mmatteo.ns.net [204.119.243.162]) by tomcat.ns.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA13777 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:45:39 -0800 (PST) X-Sender: mmatteo@exchange1.sacbee.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 10:45:59 -0800 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Marc Matteo Subject: [netatalk-admins] AT/TCP only feature? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all, I'm running Netatalk 1.4b2 (with the Solaris patch) on a Solaris 2.5 box. The appletalk routing is (as mentioned here) somewhat flakey and has caused problems. I've disabled the PAPd portion as we don't need to print for the server. I was wondering if there was/will be a way to run ONLY the TCP/IP (ala asun's patches) side of things and if that wouldn't make for a smaller, lighter (faster) implementation of netatalk. Thanks, Marc From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Nov 22 16:12:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA09017; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 16:12:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA09013; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 16:12:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA15137; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 16:13:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA15135 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 16:13:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from phoenix.earthlight.co.nz (phoenix.earthlight.co.nz [203.97.8.4]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA15126 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 16:13:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from [203.97.8.170] (ppp170.earthlight.co.nz [203.97.8.170]) by phoenix.earthlight.co.nz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29038 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 10:12:19 +1300 X-Sender: hbaldwin@earthlight.co.nz (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 10:15:06 +1300 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Howard Baldwin Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk Closedown Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This may be a silly question but ---- We have had netatalk running for about six months now serving our twenty station Mac network. It works well except that it closes down after about 20 minutes breaking down all connections. I then have restart it again and get everyone to re log. What is happening here? Howard Baldwin ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Howard Baldwin, BA (Hons), MA (Distinction), Dip. Ed., Dip. Tchng. InfoTech Systems [Information Technology Sales, Service, Training and Consultancy] Telephone +64 3 454 4099 Facsimile +64 3 482 1450 231 Larnach Road, Dunedin, New Zealand "Only strong personalities can endure history, the weak ones are extinguished by it." Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Nov 22 17:39:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA11022; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 17:39:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA11018; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 17:39:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA26977; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 17:39:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA26975 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 17:39:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from thejestr.rutgers.edu (thejestr.rutgers.edu [128.6.209.58]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA26971 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 17:39:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (thejestr@localhost) by thejestr.rutgers.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA19264 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 17:39:45 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 17:39:44 -0500 (EST) From: TheJestr To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] .AppleDouble purpose? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I can't seem to find any documentation on .AppleDouble directories created by macs when placing files or folders in a Netatalk volume. Can someone explain to me the purpose of these directories and the ramifications of removing them? Thank you ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The guy who wrote the hokey pokey died but they couldn't get him in the casket. They put his left foot in... It stinks! -- Jay Sherman. Noted Critic thejestr@thejestr.rutgers.edu Me am goto collig ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Nov 22 19:44:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA14581; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 19:44:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA14575; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 19:44:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA14652; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 19:44:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA14649 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 19:44:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA14634 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 19:44:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA30726; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 00:43:37 GMT Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 00:43:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: TheJestr cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] .AppleDouble purpose? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The .AppleDouble directories contain all the Mac-Specific portions of files i.e. the resource fork, type/creator codes, finder info, and a few other bits. Basically theu hold everything that is only useful to the Mac. Deleting the .AppleDouble directories is probably not a good idea unless you no longer want to read the files on a Mac. On Sat, 22 Nov 1997, TheJestr wrote: > I can't seem to find any documentation on .AppleDouble directories created > by macs when placing files or folders in a Netatalk volume. Can someone > explain to me the purpose of these directories and the ramifications of > removing them? -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Nov 22 22:21:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id WAA19066; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 22:21:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id WAA19060; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 22:21:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id WAA06483; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 22:22:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id WAA06481 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 22:22:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from random.tpgi.com.au (random.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA06473 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 22:22:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by random.tpgi.com.au (8.8.4/8.8.6) id OAA06212; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 14:21:29 +1100 (EST) Received: from tar-ppp-169.tpgi.com.au(203.26.26.169), claiming to be "eddie" via SMTP by random.tpgi.com.au, id smtpdAAAa001Vd; Sun Nov 23 14:21:19 1997 From: "Eddie Irvine" To: "Hannu Krosing" , "Oliver Wrede" Cc: , , Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Slightly Off-Topic: MacOS as server or Linux? Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 14:20:49 +1100 Message-ID: <01bcf7be$cba275c0$a91a1acb@eddie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Oliver Wrede wrote: > >> My current opinion is, that if there is someone, who can >> handle the Linux box, we can use the money to buy a bulk >> Intel machine with huge diskspace (mybe a RAID disk) and >> best-of backup devices. > >As long as you don't buy 3com cards with it. > >I had to go back to NT server after spending a whole week trying to >get netatalk with IP FreeBSD is another alternative - and seems to have good drivers for 3COM cards. Some say that as a file server it is a tad better than linux. (Am not trying to provoke a flame - I have seen both work well . .!) Netatalk on FreeBSD - at least the file sharing stuff - works fine for me - although I haven't got as far as print serving simply because I have no need. From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Nov 23 01:54:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id BAA02839; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 01:54:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from us.itd.umich.edu (stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu [141.211.164.7]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id BAA02835; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 01:54:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id BAA13520; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 01:54:16 -0500 (EST) Received: by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id BAA13518; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 01:54:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from toastman.us.itd.umich.edu by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id BAA13514; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 01:54:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by toastman.us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/dumb-1.0) id BAA11824; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 01:54:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 01:54:28 -0500 (EST) From: Scott Venier X-Sender: scottven@toastman.us.itd.umich.edu Reply-To: Scott Venier To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Odd problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm having 2 odd problems with netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17.2... 1). rand2num authentication doesn't work. I compiled with the a des library, made the ~/.passwd file, and it doesn't work - with user names, or with the finger info names. 2). When I play mp3s off a shared drive (mounted with ASIP), when it gets to the end of the song, it will loop back and replay the last five seconds, for ever and ever and ever... While the second problem is only annoying, the first one is bad. Anyone have any similar experiences or any suggestions? Thanks. Scott ===================================================================== Scott Venier *ResComp Network Support Technician scottven@umich.edu *Consultant for Ingematics, scott@compu-aid.com a division of Compu-Aid, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Nov 23 03:54:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id DAA04666; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 03:54:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id DAA04660; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 03:54:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id DAA09139; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 03:54:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id DAA09134 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 03:54:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.shreve.net (mercury.shreve.net [208.206.76.23]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id DAA09128; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 03:54:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.shreve.net (mercury.shreve.net [208.206.76.23]) by mercury.shreve.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id CAA10431; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 02:54:50 -0600 Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 02:54:50 -0600 (CST) From: Kevin Heflin To: Scott Venier cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Odd problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sun, 23 Nov 1997, Scott Venier wrote: > I'm having 2 odd problems with netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17.2... > > 2). When I play mp3s off a shared drive (mounted with ASIP), when it gets > to the end of the song, it will loop back and replay the last five > seconds, for ever and ever and ever... Our Mac users were expierincing this problem as well. we were using MacAmp. At first I tried a different Mpeg player.. "Vamp" I think... this did not have the same problem as MacAMP. I reported this problem to the author of MacAMP, who released an update a few days later. The update fixed the problem for some but not others? Kevin -------------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Heflin | ShreveNet, Inc. | Ph:318.222.2638 x103 VP/Mac Tech | 333 Texas St #619 | FAX:318.221.6612 kheflin@shreve.net | Shreveport, LA 71101 | http://www.shreve.net -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Nov 23 09:37:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA24312; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 09:37:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA24308; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 09:37:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA10761; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 09:37:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA10757 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 09:37:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.12]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA10753 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 09:37:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from trefle.ens.fr (trefle.ens.fr [129.199.96.17]) by nef.ens.fr (8.8.7/jtpda-5.1) with ESMTP id PAA25153 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 15:37:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from (beig@localhost) by trefle.ens.fr (8.8.7/jb-1.1) Message-ID: <19971123153720.53889@trefle.ens.fr> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 15:37:20 +0100 From: Jacques Beigbeder To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] FAQ??? Solaris freezes and panics. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu When reading archives for more than a year long, I saw a FAQ: Solaris 2.5 + netatalk 1.4b2 freezes or panics. Is there a frequently done answer? I didn't find it... and I need it. My configuration: Ultra 140, le0 + hme0 that is 2 interfaces Solaris 2.5 + netatalk 1.4b2 I want to do Appletalk routing between the 2 interfaces. Jacques Beigbeder | Internet: beig@ens.fr Service de Prestations Informatiques | http://www.spi.ens.fr Ecole normale superieure | 45 rue d'Ulm | Tel : 01 44 32 37 96 F75230 Paris Cedex 05 | Fax : 01 44 32 20 80 From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Nov 23 11:40:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA28132; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 11:40:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA28128; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 11:40:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA16736; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 11:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA16726 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 11:40:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from nora.hbk-bs.de (ip193-175-242-144.hbk-bs.de [193.175.242.144]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA16693 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 11:40:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by nora.hbk-bs.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA02505 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 17:40:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from spock.hbk-bs.de(193.175.242.145) by nora.hbk-bs.de via smap (V2.0) id xma002503; Sun, 23 Nov 97 17:40:04 +0100 Received: from marvin.hbk-bs.de by spock.hbk-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA07485; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 17:40:05 +0100 Received: by marvin.hbk-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA01546; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 17:40:04 +0100 From: h.foest@hbk-bs.de (Hanno Foest) Message-Id: <199711231640.RAA01546@marvin.hbk-bs.de> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] FAQ??? Solaris freezes and panics. To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 17:40:04 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > When reading archives for more than a year long, I saw a FAQ: > Solaris 2.5 + netatalk 1.4b2 freezes or panics. > > Is there a frequently done answer? I didn't find it... > and I need it. Bug wesley.craig@umich.edu for a more recent version of netatalk with the new kernel module. Hanno From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Nov 23 16:00:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA06519; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 16:00:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from us.itd.umich.edu (stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu [141.211.164.7]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA06515; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 16:00:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA04940; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 16:00:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA04938; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 16:00:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from toastman.us.itd.umich.edu by us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA04934; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 16:00:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by toastman.us.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/dumb-1.0) id QAA13406; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 16:00:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 16:00:15 -0500 (EST) From: Scott Venier X-Sender: scottven@toastman.us.itd.umich.edu To: Kevin Heflin cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Odd problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am having the problem with MacAmp, and I tried the newest version, and it didn't fix the problem... but is fixing it in MacAmp really the right idea? Is it caused by an error in MacAmp, or is it an inconsistantcy between the way netatalk appears vs. a "real" drive? I don't know anything about the internals of AppleShare (IP or otherwise) or MacAmp, but since this problem only appears with netatalk drives (IP definatly, maybe DDP, but I can't tell (see my original message problem #1 (yick, nested parens in email))) it would seem to indicate something in netatalk is triggering it. Scott On Sun, 23 Nov 1997, Kevin Heflin wrote: > On Sun, 23 Nov 1997, Scott Venier wrote: > > > I'm having 2 odd problems with netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17.2... > > > > 2). When I play mp3s off a shared drive (mounted with ASIP), when it gets > > to the end of the song, it will loop back and replay the last five > > seconds, for ever and ever and ever... > > > Our Mac users were expierincing this problem as well. we were using > MacAmp. > > At first I tried a different Mpeg player.. "Vamp" I think... this did not > have the same problem as MacAMP. > > I reported this problem to the author of MacAMP, who released an update a > few days later. The update fixed the problem for some but not others? > > > Kevin > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Kevin Heflin | ShreveNet, Inc. | Ph:318.222.2638 x103 > VP/Mac Tech | 333 Texas St #619 | FAX:318.221.6612 > kheflin@shreve.net | Shreveport, LA 71101 | http://www.shreve.net > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ===================================================================== Scott Venier *ResComp Network Support Technician scottven@umich.edu *Consultant for Ingematics, scott@compu-aid.com a division of Compu-Aid, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 24 05:44:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id FAA28199; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:44:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id FAA28195; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:44:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id FAA19626; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:45:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id FAA19624 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:44:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from sparta.scl.co.uk (sparta.scl.co.uk [163.164.160.4]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id FAA19614 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 05:44:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from janus.scl.co.uk (janus.scl.co.uk [163.164.164.50]) by sparta.scl.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA23023 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:43:53 GMT Message-Id: <2.2.16.19971124104736.2ab7e5e2@mail.scl.co.uk> X-Sender: john@mail.scl.co.uk X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:47:36 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: John Sutton Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AT/TCP only feature? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu You don't need to start up appletalk before starting afpd (although it will log a few messages in consequence) and the ASIP side of things will still work. Also, there is a switch for the asun-patched afpd to turn off the DDP side, -D I think?, (which stops the mess in the log) but whether it actually speeds anything up I doubt. At 10:45 22/11/97 -0800, you wrote: >Hi all, > >I'm running Netatalk 1.4b2 (with the Solaris patch) on a Solaris 2.5 box. >The appletalk routing is (as mentioned here) somewhat flakey and has caused >problems. I've disabled the PAPd portion as we don't need to print for the >server. > >I was wondering if there was/will be a way to run ONLY the TCP/IP (ala >asun's patches) side of things and if that wouldn't make for a smaller, >lighter (faster) implementation of netatalk. > >Thanks, >Marc > > > *************************************************** John Sutton SCL Computer Services URL http://www.scl.co.uk/ Tel. +44 (0) 1239 621021 *************************************************** From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 24 13:29:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA11817; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:29:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA11811; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:29:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA13600; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:29:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA13583 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:29:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from argonaut.w3-design.com (argonaut.w3-design.com [209.85.7.7]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA13560 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from w3-design.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22585; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:29:26 -0800 Message-ID: <3479C786.4E96C0A@w3-design.com> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:29:26 -0800 From: Jeff Wiegley Organization: W3-design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.29-ISS i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hannu Krosing CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Slightly Off-Topic: MacOS as server or Linux? (tulip driver notice) References: <3.0.3.32.19971121220743.006b0714@wallace.khm.de> <3476DE65.E1DABF@sid.trust.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The company I worked with went with an Intel/Linux platform for all our file sharing plans and we haven't looked back. We've been running problem free for 14 days now. Haven't had to reboot the machine or restart the file sharing servers netatalk or samba except to add printers. The only reason we rebooted the machine 14 days ago was to recompile a kernel and to recompile/add proper directory permission handling in netatalk. So now the bad news... Don't bet on the DEC tulip cards. They are *great* cards and they seem to work perfectly *except* with netatalk. Even Donald Beckers newest tulip drivers do not seem to work correctly with netatalk. I had kernel v2.0.29 + ISS patches + donald newest tulip driver and nbplkup would show *only* the netatalkk servers it would not see all the other mac object on the network. Currently we have no fix for this except to use the DEC-4X5 driver; a solution I am not very happy with because I'm sure this driver is lame compared to the tulip driver for operating tulip cards. oh yea... the tulip.c driver only seemed to fail for us on the 21140chip cards (the 10/100 cards) the 21040(10base-T) card I have in another machine works fine with netatalk and the latest tulip drivers. ifconfig ... allmulti or ifconfig ... multicast does not fix the problem either. If anybody has a fix for the tulip 10/100 cards and netatalk I'ld love to hear it. - Jeff Hannu Krosing wrote: > > Oliver Wrede wrote: > > > My current opinion is, that if there is someone, who can > > handle the Linux box, we can use the money to buy a bulk > > Intel machine with huge diskspace (mybe a RAID disk) and > > best-of backup devices. > > As long as you don't buy 3com cards with it. > > I had to go back to NT server after spending a whole week trying to > get netatalk with IP (from ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/pub/user-supported/asun/) > running at 100Mb/s (it ran fine with 10Mb/s, about 1.5 times faster than NT > without > IP support and more than twice as fast as plain ethertalk between Mac boxes. > We could have used it at 10 Mb/s and still be better off than we are now but > we had already bought a 100Mb/s hub and our 10Mb/s hub was full ;( > > Now we get throughput of about 900kb/sek from appletalk and NT server running > 100Mb/s > while it used to be over 1000 using IP /linux/10Mb/s. And it was much snappier > too - better > reaction times when clicking a disk icon and so on. > > As I found out later by joining the linux-vortex-bug mailing list, there are > severe > problems with 3com 100Mb/s cards after merging the drivers. > > There are reports that DEC Tulip based cards (for example from D-Link) are > rock-stable and fast. > I'm going toi give it another try when I have received mine. > > I did not suspect the cards at first, as I had had very good experience with > them from the > times when the driver was a separate one called boomerang. > > > Is there any argument against this? Should we better buy > > a MacOS machine as server and wait for Rhapsody? Could > > we plan to switch to Rhapsody on the intel machine later? > > Waiting is always a safe plan ;) > > > What would you do with if you had - say - $30,000 left > > to invest? > > It's way too much > > Hannu From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 24 14:39:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA15062; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:39:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA15035; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:39:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA12703; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:39:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA12659 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:38:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from gruel.spc.uchicago.edu (gruel.spc.uchicago.edu [128.135.35.239]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA12411 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:38:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from gruel.spc.uchicago.edu (gruel.spc.uchicago.edu [128.135.35.239]) by gruel.spc.uchicago.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA06379 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:37:47 -0600 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:37:45 -0600 (CST) From: The Master shepherd Reply-To: The Master shepherd To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] atalkd error Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello I recently installed netatalk 1.4b2 on a sparc5 running solaris 2.5.1 & am getting an annoying error along the lines of: atalkd[136]: route: 774 -> 804.206: No such file or directory 806.206 is the sparc5, the other number (presumably another machine on the appletalk net) varries. These errors tend to happen 10-20 at a time sporadicaly. This is on a large appletalk network, with a fair amount of activity in the zone the sparc5 is in. What's causing this & how do I fix it? Gary "Must the citizen ever for a moment, or in the least degree, resign his conscience to the legislator? Why has every man a conscience then? I think that we should be men first, and subjects afterward. --Henry David Thoreau From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 24 16:26:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA19744; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:26:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA19738; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA13428; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:27:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA12762 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:26:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from reptile.clc.cc.il.us (reptile.clc.cc.il.us [207.57.239.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA12570 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:25:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kermit@localhost) by reptile.clc.cc.il.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA23398 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:55:48 -0600 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:55:48 -0600 (CST) From: Matt Isleb To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Slightly Off-Topic: MacOS as server or Linux? (tulip driver notice) In-Reply-To: <3479C786.4E96C0A@w3-design.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > > As long as you don't buy 3com cards with it. > > > > As I found out later by joining the linux-vortex-bug mailing list, there are > > severe > > problems with 3com 100Mb/s cards after merging the drivers. Hmm interesting... I just trashed a tulip card for a 3c905 card. I was having problems with the tulip card (SMC 9332DST 10/100). It kept dropping down to 10Mbit and other strange things. So I put in a 3c905 and it SEEMS to be working great. Not only does it run consistantly at 100Mbit but it auto-detected full duplex. More than i could ever get from the tulip card. I believe the 3c905 is the "Boomerang" model. I run kernel 2.0.32. Are their any problems I should look forward to? Related to netatalk of course :) Matt From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 24 16:46:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA20863; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:46:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA20854; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:46:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA22934; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:47:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA22301 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:46:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from quando.com ([208.151.241.142] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA22222 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:45:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from [208.151.241.154] by quando.com with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2); Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:47:27 -0800 X-Sender: noahi@mail.quando.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199711231640.RAA01546@marvin.hbk-bs.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:45:04 -0800 To: h.foest@hbk-bs.de (Hanno Foest) From: Noah Iliinsky Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] FAQ??? Solaris freezes and panics. Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 5:40 PM +0100 11/23/97, Hanno Foest wrote: >> When reading archives for more than a year long, I saw a FAQ: >> Solaris 2.5 + netatalk 1.4b2 freezes or panics. >> >> Is there a frequently done answer? I didn't find it... >> and I need it. > >Bug wesley.craig@umich.edu for a more recent version of netatalk with the >new kernel module. > >Hanno No kidding. I love netatalk, and I really appreciate the work that they're doing. That said, 1.4b2 has been out for _over a year_ and some of these issues (spontaneous reboots) are getting a little old. Cheers, Noah -- Noah Iliinsky noahi@quando.com Webmaster (503) 225-1988 vox Quando, Inc. (503) 225-1987 fax From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Nov 24 21:06:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA00731; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 21:06:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA00727; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 21:06:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id VAA02199; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 21:07:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id VAA02197 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 21:07:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.finan.com (www.finan.com [209.96.27.162]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA02187 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 21:07:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from [209.96.27.174] (bill.finan.com [209.96.27.174]) by www.finan.com (8.8.7/8.8.5/finan1.1) with ESMTP id UAA06816 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 20:06:42 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 20:04:31 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Bill Stewart-Cole Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] .AppleDouble purpose? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 6:43 PM -0600 11/22/97, Alistair Riddell wrote: >The .AppleDouble directories contain all the Mac-Specific portions of >files i.e. the resource fork, type/creator codes, finder info, and a few >other bits. Basically theu hold everything that is only useful to the Mac. > >Deleting the .AppleDouble directories is probably not a good idea unless >you no longer want to read the files on a Mac. Actually, it doesn't seem to cause any *serious* problems, as long as you are only dealing with data files (no resource forks that require preservation). I know this only because I took a big chance on it and failed to get clobbered by anything serious. (it involves mirror, a remote web server, and the world's goofiest bidirectional file sync setup...) I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND TRYING THIS ON ANY SERVER THAT HOLDS MAC EXECUTABLES!!! ---- Bill Stewart-Cole This space for rent. Inquire within. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Nov 25 00:18:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id AAA09831; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:18:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id AAA09798; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:18:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA12750; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:18:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA12742 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:18:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mixer.visi.com (mixer.visi.com [204.73.178.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id AAA12736 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:18:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from bambi.visi.com (root@bambi.visi.com [204.73.178.24]) by mixer.visi.com (8.8.6/8.7.5) with ESMTP id XAA26325 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 23:18:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from bambi.visi.com (jarrod@bambi.visi.com [204.73.178.24]) by bambi.visi.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA06265 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 23:18:40 -0600 (CST) Posted-Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 23:18:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 23:18:39 -0600 (CST) From: "J. Stenberg" X-Sender: jarrod@bambi.visi.com To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: Filmaker issue on Solaris 2.5.1 Netatalk 1.4b2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello. I am new to most of this though I have done much with small apple networks. I love the speed of Netatalk but I am beginning to wonder if I need to step down to CAP. Here is my problem: When loading files from the Netatalk served volume with Filemaker, the app thinks there are too many files open and refuses to open any more. This happens with as few as 2 files open at the same time. I have tried Filemaker 3.0.1, 3.0.4 and 4.0. The macs are running 7.6.1 and have been set up to use TCPIP (100base T cards bottlenecked through a 10baseT hub). Incidently I have tried switching appletalk between TCPIP and Localtalk. No go. Tomorrow I will try the ForceDDP extension but this is a shot in the dark. Also, I should note that I have ap[plied the Solariseagain patch. Thanks for to those who have made this available and to anyone who will help, -jarrod -- -- Jarrod P. Stenberg jarrod@denizen.net 612.646.6427 www.visi.com/~jarrod 612.901.6650 www.denizen.net "The more that science explains our existence, the more implausible we seem." -John Horgan From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Nov 25 05:46:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id FAA04758; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 05:46:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id FAA04754; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 05:46:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA20272; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 05:46:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA20270 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 05:46:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from pat.uio.no (pat.uio.no [129.240.130.16]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id FAA20255 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 05:46:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from gilgamesj.uio.no (actually gilgamesj.uio.no [129.240.222.66]) by pat.uio.no with SMTP (PP); Tue, 25 Nov 1997 11:45:09 +0100 Received: from math.uio.no (eris.uio.no [129.240.222.69]) by gilgamesj.uio.no ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 11:45:07 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199711251045.LAA04258@gilgamesj.uio.no> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 05/05/96 To: Jeff Wiegley cc: Hannu Krosing , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Slightly Off-Topic: MacOS as server or Linux? (tulip driver notice) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:29:26 PST." <3479C786.4E96C0A@w3-design.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 11:45:06 +0100 From: Nicolai Langfeldt Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Jeff Wiegley tastet: > The company I worked with went with an Intel/Linux platform for all > our file sharing plans and we haven't looked back. We've been running > problem free for 14 days now. Haven't had to reboot the machine or > restart the file sharing servers netatalk or samba except to add > printers. ... > Don't bet on the DEC tulip cards. They are *great* cards and they > seem to work perfectly *except* with netatalk. Even Donald Beckers > newest tulip drivers do not seem to work correctly with netatalk ... This is ...interesting. I'm running netatalk on a machine with a 21140 card at 10Mbps. Works great. Stock 2.0.31 kernel at the moment (_no_ patches). Is it at 100Mbps it breaks down? Another interesting thing, People using boomerang (3com 10/100) cards should be cautious about using the new 'unified' 3com driver. If my box breaks at 100Mbps I'm going to try Intel Etherexpress Pro. It appears it has the potential to be faster than tulips due to alignment flexibility (apparently the typical packet payload start can be aligned to 4byte boundrary, instead of the header which the tulip dictates) Nicolai From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Nov 25 15:52:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA23808; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:52:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA23802; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:52:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA28787; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:52:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA28778 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:52:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from argonaut.w3-design.com (argonaut.w3-design.com [209.85.7.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA28667 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:52:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from w3-design.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05792; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:51:18 -0800 Message-ID: <347B3A46.90EDD24C@w3-design.com> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:51:18 -0800 From: Jeff Wiegley Organization: W3-design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nicolai Langfeldt CC: Hannu Krosing , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] (tulip driver notice) References: <199711251045.LAA04258@gilgamesj.uio.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Nicolai Langfeldt wrote: > > Jeff Wiegley tastet: > > The company I worked with went with an Intel/Linux platform for all > > our file sharing plans and we haven't looked back. We've been running > > problem free for 14 days now. Haven't had to reboot the machine or > > restart the file sharing servers netatalk or samba except to add > > printers. > ... > > Don't bet on the DEC tulip cards. They are *great* cards and they > > seem to work perfectly *except* with netatalk. Even Donald Beckers > > newest tulip drivers do not seem to work correctly with netatalk > ... > > This is ...interesting. > > I'm running netatalk on a machine with a 21140 card at 10Mbps. Works > great. Stock 2.0.31 kernel at the moment (_no_ patches). > > Is it at 100Mbps it breaks down? > > Another interesting thing, People using boomerang (3com 10/100) cards > should be cautious about using the new 'unified' 3com driver. > > If my box breaks at 100Mbps I'm going to try Intel Etherexpress Pro. > It appears it has the potential to be faster than tulips due to > alignment flexibility (apparently the typical packet payload start > can be aligned to 4byte boundrary, instead of the header which the > tulip dictates) > > Nicolai No, mine breaks at 10Mbps we don't have any 100Mbps capable routers around here :-( Well, As I said, it doesn't really "break" like the 3Com cards do. The network still seems to run perfectly, no errors fast response. its just that netatalk isn't able to see any other appletalk devices except those registered by the netatalk server itself. (nbplkup only shows the netatalk server objects and nothing else) but unix networking and samba run fine. - Jeff From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Nov 25 22:17:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id WAA08850; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:17:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id WAA08842; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:16:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA20084; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:16:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA20075 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:16:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA20027; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:16:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA27492; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 18:41:12 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA21187; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 19:16:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 19:16:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711260316.TAA21187@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, netatalk@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] movieplayer and such with afpd Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu i finally decided to figure out why movieplayer didn't like playing stuff from an afpd volume. it turns out that file locking was being done incorrectly. here's a synopsis of the fix which will be in my a18 patchset. if i get motiviated, i might even include fnctl()-based byte-range locks. the following check in afp_openfork() isn't correct: if (access & ( OPENACC_WR|OPENACC_DRD )) { /* exclusive lock */ lockop = LOCK_EX; } else if (access & ( OPENACC_RD|OPENACC_DWR )) the above will actually match either of the two perm bits instead of both of them. the obvious fix is of course: if ( (access & ( OPENACC_WR|OPENACC_DRD )) == (OPENACC_WR | OPENACC_DRD)) { /* exclusive lock */ lockop = LOCK_EX; } else if ( (access & ( OPENACC_RD|OPENACC_DWR )) == (OPENACC_RD | OPENACC_DWR)) { /* shared lock */ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Nov 26 18:26:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA07717; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 18:26:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA07713; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 18:25:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA07587; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 18:25:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA07580 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 18:25:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from tajin.cice.mx (tajin.cice.mx [148.230.37.100]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA07572 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 18:25:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (mhaza@localhost) by tajin.cice.mx (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA28534; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 18:12:30 -0600 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 18:12:29 -0600 (CST) From: Mario Haza Reply-To: Mario Haza To: Appletalk , Netatalk Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems with graphic files. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all!. I have a PC running Red Hat with 2.0.18 kernel and Netatalk 1.4b2 with no patches and Samba 1.9.16p2. When i copy a graphics (tiff or jpeg) file Mac-UNIX-PC it works pretty well, but when i try PC-UNIX-MAC it doesn't work because the files appear corrupted (some lines and colors are gone). On the last case i must use ftp (fetch) to get the file on the correct form. What can i do to resolve this? 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(5) 627-0210 Ext. 8530 u 8527 | | * * Ciudad de Mexico (Mexico City) | | * * |___________| * * * ************************************************************************* From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 28 09:33:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA22220; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 09:33:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA22216; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 09:33:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA26467; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 09:33:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA26465 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 09:33:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.med.cornell.edu (mail.med.cornell.edu [140.251.2.4]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA26461 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 09:33:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from med.cornell.edu (watts.med.cornell.edu [140.251.230.15]) by mail.med.cornell.edu (8.7.3/8.8.x/cumc1) with SMTP id JAA25676 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 09:33:15 -0500 Received: by med.cornell.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA01812; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 09:28:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 09:28:41 -0500 From: carton@watts.med.cornell.edu (John Charles Carton) Message-Id: <199711281428.JAA01812@med.cornell.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.5.1 Installation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: ToT/kMeOTHDRCrtEUX9Mbw== Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Greetings All, I've been having some installation problems with netatalk with Solaris 2.5.1 on a SPARC 5. Specifically, I'm a bit uncertain about the actual installation steps, even though I read the README files as well as looked at the web site for tips. Did someone create a walk-thru checklist, or am I asking for trouble later on with actual netatalk administration if I'm having confusion now? Any help would be appreciated, John From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Nov 28 16:56:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA06067; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:56:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA06060; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:55:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA28883; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:55:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA28881 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:55:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomcat.ca.metsci.com (tomcat.ca.metsci.com [199.106.147.201]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA28869 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:55:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (solmssen@localhost) by tomcat.ca.metsci.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA26424 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 13:52:50 -0800 Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 13:52:50 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Solmssen To: Netatalk List Subject: [netatalk-admins] NBP Lookup problems In-Reply-To: <347B3A46.90EDD24C@w3-design.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm having a similar problem - I have a Red Hat 4.2 machine with netatalk 1.4b2 with the umich patches.The nbplkup program shows only those names registered by the linux box, but I can see and login to the afpd server just fine from the macs. Pap seems unable to find an appletalk printer in the local zone. I have a 3C905 with 0.46B vortex driver from Donald Becker. I can do an nbplkup on the mac with interpoll or trawl and see the linux box, but the linux box can't see anyone else. I'm going to try moving to the larger net range that solved my problem before - here's my current atalkd.conf: eth0 -phase 2 -net 10000 -addr 10000.141 -zone "San Diego ET" ---- Andrew On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, Jeff Wiegley wrote: > Nicolai Langfeldt wrote: > > > > Jeff Wiegley tastet: > > > The company I worked with went with an Intel/Linux platform for all > > > our file sharing plans and we haven't looked back. We've been running > > > problem free for 14 days now. Haven't had to reboot the machine or > > > restart the file sharing servers netatalk or samba except to add > > > printers. > > ... > > > Don't bet on the DEC tulip cards. They are *great* cards and they > > > seem to work perfectly *except* with netatalk. Even Donald Beckers > > > newest tulip drivers do not seem to work correctly with netatalk > > ... > > > > This is ...interesting. > > > > I'm running netatalk on a machine with a 21140 card at 10Mbps. Works > > great. Stock 2.0.31 kernel at the moment (_no_ patches). > > > > Is it at 100Mbps it breaks down? > > > > Another interesting thing, People using boomerang (3com 10/100) cards > > should be cautious about using the new 'unified' 3com driver. > > > > If my box breaks at 100Mbps I'm going to try Intel Etherexpress Pro. > > It appears it has the potential to be faster than tulips due to > > alignment flexibility (apparently the typical packet payload start > > can be aligned to 4byte boundrary, instead of the header which the > > tulip dictates) > > > > Nicolai > > No, mine breaks at 10Mbps we don't have any 100Mbps capable routers > around here :-( > > Well, As I said, it doesn't really "break" like the 3Com cards do. > The network still seems to run perfectly, no errors fast response. > its just that netatalk isn't able to see any other appletalk devices > except those registered by the netatalk server itself. (nbplkup only > shows the netatalk server objects and nothing else) > > but unix networking and samba run fine. > > - Jeff > From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Nov 29 09:36:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA12102; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 09:36:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA12098; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 09:36:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA08231; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 09:36:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA08229 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 09:36:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from atlantica.access.ch (atlantica.access.ch [193.246.40.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA08225 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 09:36:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from 193.246.41.66 by atlantica.access.ch (8.8.5/INA-1.05pri) id PAA26393; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 15:36:05 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: liyanage@mail.access.ch Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 14:58:38 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Marc Liyanage Subject: [netatalk-admins] Here is a lpd filter for landscape printing via Ghostscript Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I wrote a short Perl script that can be used as a filter for lpd in order to reliably rotate pages that need to printed in landscape mode. It seems to work with PostScript files generated by the Adobe PSPrint and Apple LaserWriter 8 printer drivers, received via papd. I am using it with a Stylus Color 600 printer. It can be found at http://www.access.ch/ml/unix/macpsfilter.pl Email me if you have problems using it or if you'd like to send me comments. -Marc -- _________________________________________________________________ Marc Liyanage liyanage@access.ch http://www.access.ch/ml Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted _________________________________________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Nov 29 18:38:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA23378; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 18:38:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA23365; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 18:38:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA27163; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 18:37:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA27158 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 18:37:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA27151 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 18:37:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12205 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 15:37:15 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA28738; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 15:37:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 15:37:46 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199711292337.PAA28738@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] byte-range locks and afpd Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu i've just added byte-range locks to my patchset. however, before i release it to the masses, i would like people to test it to make sure it works properly. basically, it does the following: 1) set fcntl()-style locks. as a consequence, these will only work on nfs mounts if you run lockd. 2) before each read/write/truncate, attempt to set a temporary lock. if the region is locked against the user, this should fail. release the lock after the operation has been completed. as an added side effect, afp_read/afp_write/afp_setforkparams should now be completely protected from stepping upon each other. so, if you have programs which could benefit from byte locks and you want to test it out, send me email. oh yeah, if you have a better idea for an interface, let me know. it's currently in the form of ad_lock and ad_tmplock with a whole string of arguments. i think it looks pretty ugly, but i wanted to retain locking as an appledouble level call. -adrian asun@zoology.washington.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Nov 30 23:48:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id XAA17942; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:48:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id XAA17936; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:48:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA12996; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:48:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA12993 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:48:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.97]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA12984 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:48:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from atlantis.csc.umd.edu (rsw@atlantis.csc.umd.edu [129.2.8.129]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA24255; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:48:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:48:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Randall S. Winchester" To: a sun cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] byte-range locks and afpd In-Reply-To: <199711292337.PAA28738@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I hope these changes are inside "#ifndef AFS", as byte-range lock do *not* work in AFS. Randall On Sat, 29 Nov 1997, a sun wrote: : : i've just added byte-range locks to my patchset. however, before i : release it to the masses, i would like people to test it to make sure : it works properly. basically, it does the following: : : 1) set fcntl()-style locks. as a consequence, these will only : work on nfs mounts if you run lockd. : : 2) before each read/write/truncate, attempt to set a : temporary lock. if the region is locked against the user, : this should fail. release the lock after the operation has : been completed. : : as an added side effect, afp_read/afp_write/afp_setforkparams should : now be completely protected from stepping upon each other. : : so, if you have programs which could benefit from byte locks and you : want to test it out, send me email. : : oh yeah, if you have a better idea for an interface, let me : know. it's currently in the form of ad_lock and ad_tmplock with a : whole string of arguments. i think it looks pretty ugly, but i wanted : to retain locking as an appledouble level call. : : -adrian : asun@zoology.washington.edu : From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 1 09:10:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA20840; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 09:10:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA20797; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 09:10:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA23662; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 09:10:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA23660 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 09:10:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from bock.freinet.de (bock.freinet.de [193.141.226.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id JAA23606 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 09:10:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from prometheus (helge@id-online.freinet.de [193.141.226.117]) by bock.freinet.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA15914 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:10:11 +0100 Message-ID: <3482C5E3.530FC108@id-online.freinet.de> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 15:12:51 +0100 From: Helge Münnich Organization: ID-Online X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] More System 8 / 1.4b2 problems References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu hi we are using Netatalk 1.4b2 with the macos8-patch from wesley under Linux. As far we know the patch works and (as suggested before) the dancing icons only seem to appear in volumes where some files/links don't have a regular resourcefork. Just as a hint. So far our regular mac_users aren´t concerned and (!) Netatalk works better than our NT (4.00.83). B.d. Helge and Thomas -- hm@id-online.freinet.de Helge Münnich Tel.: +49 761 290035 Schauinslandstr. 26c Fax : +49 761 290034 D-79100 Freiburg From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 1 09:14:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA21134; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 09:14:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA21127; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 09:14:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA24901; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 09:14:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA24895 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 09:14:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from gate.illom.se (gate.illom.se [194.18.100.37]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA24845 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 09:14:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from illom.se (mac4.illom.se [194.18.101.245]) by gate.illom.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA04985 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:14:24 +0100 Message-ID: <3482C65C.713F5791@illom.se> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 15:15:00 +0100 From: Magnus Stenman Reply-To: magnus@illom.se Organization: ILLOM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins Subject: [netatalk-admins] randnum Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Is there a specific reason why 2-way randnums can´t authenticate users against the /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow files? I can just get it to work with the ~/.password file /magnus From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 1 10:07:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA24032; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:07:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA24025; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:07:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA00432; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:07:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA00423 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:07:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.72.10]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA00415 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:07:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dannyman@localhost) by arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) id JAA08393; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 09:07:12 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19971201090712.55191@arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 09:07:12 -0600 From: dannyman To: magnus@illom.se Cc: netatalk-admins Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] randnum References: <3482C65C.713F5791@illom.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <3482C65C.713F5791@illom.se>; from Magnus Stenman on Mon, Dec 01, 1997 at 03:15:00PM +0100 X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu X-URL: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, Dec 01, 1997 at 03:15:00PM +0100, Magnus Stenman wrote: > Is there a specific reason why 2-way randnums can´t authenticate > users against the /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow files? iirc, the docs say the two-way scheme relies on the server knowing the password to be encrypted. in most unix implementations, /etc/passwd is encrypted one-way, so the server _doesn't_ know the password to use it for 2-way randnums. -- //Dan -=- This message brought to you by djhoward@uiuc.edu -=- \\/yori -=- Information - http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ -=- aiokomete -=- Our Honored Symbol deserves an Honorable Retirement From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 1 11:26:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA28778; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 11:26:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA28763; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 11:26:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA15912; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 11:26:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA15905 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 11:25:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA15852 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 11:25:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA16007; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:25:28 GMT Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:25:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: Magnus Stenman cc: netatalk-admins Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] randnum In-Reply-To: <3482C65C.713F5791@illom.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu That would be because the for 2-way randnum to work the server must know the each user's password, which is not available from /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow.=20 On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Magnus Stenman wrote: > Is there a specific reason why 2-way randnums can=B4t authenticate > users against the /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow files? >=20 > I can just get it to work with the ~/.password file >=20 > /magnus >=20 -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 1 11:31:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA29208; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 11:31:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA29200; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 11:31:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id LAA07118; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 11:32:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id LAA07077 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 11:32:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from fs01.mmm0.ocps.k12.fl.us (fs01.mmm0.ocps.k12.fl.us [168.184.57.140]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA06813 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 11:31:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by fs01.mmm0.ocps.k12.fl.us (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA00213 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:54:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from root@fs01.mmm0.ocps.k12.fl.us) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:54:16 -0500 (EST) From: ReWt To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Icons Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Just wondering if there is a way to change the icon that shows up once you are connected to the server via the mac machine. I have had no problems with netatalk whatsoever but I would like to know if that is possible. Matt Chapman From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 1 14:15:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA06240; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:15:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA06236; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:15:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA14278; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:16:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA14208 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:15:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.sacbee.com (mail.sacbee.com [204.86.242.27]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA13985 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:15:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from exchange1.sacbee.com (exchange1.sacbee.com [128.103.5.210]) by mail.sacbee.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA12306 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 11:17:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from matteo.sacbee.com by exchange1.sacbee.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1458.49) id W0BFTNAJ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 11:15:33 -0800 X-Sender: mmatteo@exchange1.sacbee.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 11:13:39 -0800 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Marc Matteo Subject: [netatalk-admins] init scripts Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Here's an odd one(s). I have netatalk 1.4b2asun16 running on a Red Hat 4.2 machine. With the 'default' rc.atalk.bsd init script there's no clean shutdown of netatalk and as a result my Mac users experience hangs when the Linux machine is rebooted (rather than a dialog box telling them the server shutdown). Some of the atalk directories are NFS mounts and NFS complains that the directories are in use when it tries to shut down as well. So to fix this I opted to try to use the 'rc.atalk.sysv' script that handles the 'stop' parameter. There are two problems with this. 1) Run manually the script shuts down the appletalk stuff apperently just fine and my Mac users don't hang. Problem is I can't restart the 'atalk' deamon again - it complains about a child dying - and I have to reboot. 2) On shutdown the script fails to run at all (causing more of the problems above) even though all of the other shutdown/reboot scripts execute just fine. Now this probably isn't a neteatalk problem at all but I thought I'd bring it up. Anyone have ideas? Marc Marc Matteo Web Engineer, The Sacramento Bee (916) 321-1242 http://www.sacbee.com From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 1 15:38:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA09069; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:38:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA09050; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:38:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA08029; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:38:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA07991 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:38:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.72.10]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA07667 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:37:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dannyman@localhost) by arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) id OAA09021; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:36:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19971201143616.20267@arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:36:16 -0600 From: dannyman To: ReWt Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Icons References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: ; from ReWt on Mon, Dec 01, 1997 at 10:54:16AM -0500 X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu X-URL: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, Dec 01, 1997 at 10:54:16AM -0500, ReWt wrote: > Just wondering if there is a way to change the icon that shows up once you > are connected to the server via the mac machine. I have had no problems > with netatalk whatsoever but I would like to know if that is possible. yes, this is possible. -- //Dan -=- This message brought to you by djhoward@uiuc.edu -=- \\/yori -=- Information - http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ -=- aiokomete -=- Our Honored Symbol deserves an Honorable Retirement From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 1 15:44:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA09577; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:44:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA09572; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:44:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA28018; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:44:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA27664 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from fs01.mmm0.ocps.k12.fl.us (fs01.mmm0.ocps.k12.fl.us [168.184.57.140]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA27175 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:41:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by fs01.mmm0.ocps.k12.fl.us (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA00403; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:42:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from root@fs01.mmm0.ocps.k12.fl.us) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:42:02 -0500 (EST) From: ReWt To: dannyman cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Icons In-Reply-To: <19971201143616.20267@arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Okay, It is possible to change the default icon, how do you change the default icon. Matthew Chapman On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, dannyman wrote: > On Mon, Dec 01, 1997 at 10:54:16AM -0500, ReWt wrote: > > > Just wondering if there is a way to change the icon that shows up once you > > are connected to the server via the mac machine. I have had no problems > > with netatalk whatsoever but I would like to know if that is possible. > > yes, this is possible. > > -- > //Dan -=- This message brought to you by djhoward@uiuc.edu -=- > \\/yori -=- Information - http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ -=- > aiokomete -=- Our Honored Symbol deserves an Honorable Retirement > From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 1 15:47:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA10212; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:47:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA10152; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:47:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA29309; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:47:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA29275 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:47:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.72.10]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA29152 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:46:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dannyman@localhost) by arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) id OAA09078; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:46:19 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19971201144619.20924@arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:46:19 -0600 From: dannyman To: ReWt Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Icons References: <19971201143616.20267@arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: ; from ReWt on Mon, Dec 01, 1997 at 03:42:02PM -0500 X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu X-URL: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, Dec 01, 1997 at 03:42:02PM -0500, ReWt wrote: > Okay, > > It is possible to change the default icon, how do you change the default > icon. dammit, i knew i couldn't get away with being a smartass ... uhmmm ... i dunno, i think on os8 you can go into properties and drag an icon onto the one popping up in the window, or at least copy/paste ... -- //Dan -=- This message brought to you by djhoward@uiuc.edu -=- \\/yori -=- Information - http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ -=- aiokomete -=- Our Honored Symbol deserves an Honorable Retirement From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 1 15:50:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA10748; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:50:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA10732; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:50:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA00435; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:50:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA00299 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:49:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from fs01.mmm0.ocps.k12.fl.us (fs01.mmm0.ocps.k12.fl.us [168.184.57.140]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA00157 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:49:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by fs01.mmm0.ocps.k12.fl.us (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA00193; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:49:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from root@fs01.mmm0.ocps.k12.fl.us) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:49:46 -0500 (EST) From: ReWt To: dannyman cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Icons In-Reply-To: <19971201144619.20924@arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Gotcha, Ok: I think the icon though is supplied on the server side via netatalk therefore I would gather you would have to change the icon on the server, wherever that is and depending on the format it has to be in...etc... Matthew Chapman On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, dannyman wrote: > On Mon, Dec 01, 1997 at 03:42:02PM -0500, ReWt wrote: > > Okay, > > > > It is possible to change the default icon, how do you change the default > > icon. > > dammit, i knew i couldn't get away with being a smartass ... > > uhmmm ... i dunno, i think on os8 you can go into properties and drag an icon > onto the one popping up in the window, or at least copy/paste ... > > -- > //Dan -=- This message brought to you by djhoward@uiuc.edu -=- > \\/yori -=- Information - http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ -=- > aiokomete -=- Our Honored Symbol deserves an Honorable Retirement > From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 1 15:59:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA12426; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:59:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA12411; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:59:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA04186; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:59:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA04123 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:59:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from coe.missouri.edu (tiger.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.20]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA04094 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from [128.206.158.52] (baroque.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.52]) by coe.missouri.edu (8.8.8/8.8.3) with SMTP id OAA08712; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:59:25 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 14:59:27 -0600 From: Mark Donnelly Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] init scripts To: Marc Matteo , netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Authenticated: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 1 Dec 1997 11:13:39 -0800 mmatteo@sacbee.com (Marc Matteo) wrote: >1) Run manually the script shuts down the appletalk stuff apperently just >fine and my Mac users don't hang. Problem is I can't restart the 'atalk' >deamon again - it complains about a child dying - and I have to reboot. > Well, I've never gotten around this one myself. On Linux(which I assume you have), I hear that kernel & libc patches will allow that to happen, although I've never done it. One hack-around is to compile appletalk as a module, then unload & re-load it when you want to restart the daemon. Another hack-around is to use IP Aliasing (having multiple addresses on one net card). I've found that I can bring atalkd back up by enabling a virtual address, then setting atalkd to use eth0:1. As I said, these are hack-arounds. >2) On shutdown the script fails to run at all (causing more of the problems >above) even though all of the other shutdown/reboot scripts execute just >fine. Now this probably isn't a neteatalk problem at all but I thought I'd >bring it up. Make sure that, again using RedHat Linux's scripts (I'm not real sure of anything else), you have a 'K' script. Specifically, if you have a 'S65atalk', symlink that to 'K65atalk'. If that doesn't work, make sure that that 'K' script is in all your /etc/rc.d/rcX.d directories. Hope this helps, --Mark "I think so Brain, but if they called them sad meals, then no one would buy them." From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 1 16:00:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA12535; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:00:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA12478; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:00:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA16206; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:00:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA16080 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:59:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.72.10]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA15764 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:58:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dannyman@localhost) by arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) id OAA09119; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:57:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <19971201145739.37541@arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:57:39 -0600 From: dannyman To: ReWt Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Icons References: <19971201144619.20924@arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: ; from ReWt on Mon, Dec 01, 1997 at 03:49:46PM -0500 X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu X-URL: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, Dec 01, 1997 at 03:49:46PM -0500, ReWt wrote: > Gotcha, > > Ok: I think the icon though is supplied on the server side via netatalk > therefore I would gather you would have to change the icon on the server, > wherever that is and depending on the format it has to be in...etc... netatalk handles this ... if you are going to change an icon on an appletalk volume, you will be affecting the server. if you do not have write permission on the server, you can't change the icon. local interpretation of default icon types though, appears to be client-specific ... don't ask me though, i'm not a mac geek. :) -- //Dan -=- This message brought to you by djhoward@uiuc.edu -=- \\/yori -=- Information - http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ -=- aiokomete -=- Our Honored Symbol deserves an Honorable Retirement From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 1 16:08:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA14100; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:08:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA14023; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:08:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA19125; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:08:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA19083 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:08:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA19032 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:08:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05413; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 13:07:15 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA16233; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 13:07:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 13:07:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712012107.NAA16233@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: root@fs01.mmm0.ocps.k12.fl.us CC: djhoward@uiuc.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from ReWt on Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:49:46 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Icons Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Gotcha, Ok: I think the icon though is supplied on the server side via netatalk therefore I would gather you would have to change the icon on the server, wherever that is and depending on the format it has to be in...etc... os8 doesn't use the server-supplied icon. copy/paste works better anyway as the server can only supply a bitmap. if you want to actually change the bitmap, look in etc/afpd/icon.h. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 1 16:11:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA14455; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:11:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA14431; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:11:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA29945; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:11:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA29929 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:11:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mojo.calyx.net (mojo.calyx.net [208.132.136.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id QAA29874 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:11:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28911 invoked by uid 1033); 1 Dec 1997 21:10:54 -0000 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:10:54 -0500 (EST) From: Juan Fernando To: ReWt cc: dannyman , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Icons In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Under OS8, I GET INFO and you can TAB to the ICON's field or simply click directly there. Then you can Cut-n-Paste (or use F3 to copy, F4 to paste) the Icons right in. The same procedure is for all systems 7 and up, but I hav 8 on my Powerbook and that's what I did it with. The Icons show up beautifully on all the desktops in our 30 Mac office, and using the Labels to color code them produced instantly recognizable server volumes. juan. On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, ReWt wrote: > Gotcha, > > Ok: I think the icon though is supplied on the server side via netatalk > therefore I would gather you would have to change the icon on the server, > wherever that is and depending on the format it has to be in...etc... > > Matthew Chapman > > On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, dannyman wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 01, 1997 at 03:42:02PM -0500, ReWt wrote: > > > Okay, > > > > > > It is possible to change the default icon, how do you change the default > > > icon. > > > > dammit, i knew i couldn't get away with being a smartass ... > > > > uhmmm ... i dunno, i think on os8 you can go into properties and drag an icon > > onto the one popping up in the window, or at least copy/paste ... > > > > -- > > //Dan -=- This message brought to you by djhoward@uiuc.edu -=- > > \\/yori -=- Information - http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward/ -=- > > aiokomete -=- Our Honored Symbol deserves an Honorable Retirement > > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 1 18:15:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA20768; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 18:15:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA20764; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 18:14:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA09510; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 18:14:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA09507 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 18:14:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from sparta.scl.co.uk (sparta.scl.co.uk [163.164.160.4]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA09498 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 18:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from [163.164.164.52] (lydia.scl.co.uk [163.164.164.52]) by sparta.scl.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA08869 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 23:14:37 GMT X-Sender: john@mail.scl.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 23:14:03 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: john@scl.co.uk (John Sutton) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] init scripts Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >1) Run manually the script shuts down the appletalk stuff apperently just >fine and my Mac users don't hang. Problem is I can't restart the 'atalk' >deamon again - it complains about a child dying - and I have to reboot. That sounds like you need to restart appletalk. If you've got appletalk built as a module, that's easy - just rmmod it. If you've built it into your kernel I think you've no choice but to reboot (but I might me wrong?) >2) On shutdown the script fails to run at all (causing more of the problems >above) even though all of the other shutdown/reboot scripts execute just >fine. Now this probably isn't a neteatalk problem at all but I thought I'd >bring it up. Have you got the Kxxxxx soft link(s) in the appropriate directories? *********************** John Sutton SCL Computer Services http://www.scl.co.uk Tel +44 (0) 1239 621021 *********************** From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 1 18:54:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA23423; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 18:54:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA23415; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 18:53:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA21385; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 18:53:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA21380 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 18:53:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.sacbee.com (mail.sacbee.com [204.86.242.27]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA21374 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 18:53:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from exchange1.sacbee.com (exchange1.sacbee.com [128.103.5.210]) by mail.sacbee.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA14486 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:56:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from matteo.sacbee.com by exchange1.sacbee.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1458.49) id W0BFTNM8; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:54:33 -0800 X-Sender: mmatteo@exchange1.sacbee.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 15:52:40 -0800 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Marc Matteo Subject: [netatalk-admins] init scripts (solution) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Thanks to everyone but especially thanks to asun! The main problem was that the < 2.0.31 Linux kernels can't delete an appletalk interface -- hence the error. If you are like me and timidly running a stock Red Hat release and you've updated the kernel to 2.0.32 via RPM - don't forget the 2.0.32 headers as well (doh!). >From the asun README.LINUX: 4. SIOCATALKDIFADDR. The current stable (2.0.30) kernel and development kernels < 2.1.43 can't delete interfaces. Apply the appropriate patch in sys/linux to /usr/src/linux (patch -p1 -d /usr/src/linux) to enable interface deletion. The latest glibc and libc-5 libraries should have an appropriate header to enable this feature. Once netatalk was recompiled with the new kernel headers it worked fine. As for the init script not running on shutdown -- well it's got to be something painfully obvious that I'm overlooking (admit it, you've done stuff like that too) especially when I have plenty of others that are working fine. Thanks again, Marc Marc Matteo Web Engineer, The Sacramento Bee (916) 321-1242 http://www.sacbee.com From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 1 20:31:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA26349; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 20:31:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id UAA26315; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 20:31:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id UAA29894; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 20:32:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id UAA29888 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 20:32:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mixer.visi.com (mixer.visi.com [204.73.178.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA29859 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 20:31:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from thumper.visi.com (root@thumper.visi.com [204.73.178.3]) by mixer.visi.com (8.8.6/8.7.5) with ESMTP id TAA13481 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 19:31:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from thumper.visi.com (jarrod@thumper.visi.com [204.73.178.3]) by thumper.visi.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA17917 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 19:31:07 -0600 (CST) Posted-Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 19:31:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 19:31:07 -0600 (CST) From: "J. Stenberg" X-Sender: jarrod@thumper.visi.com Reply-To: "J. Stenberg" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: a sun patches followup to filemaker problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu a sun (and netatalk list folks), Sorry, I didn't mean to debase your scripts on the netatalk forum. I was having problems with a Solaris 2.5.1 install. My fault. You knew that. But I figured it out and installed everything with little incident. WHile installing I got this: add_drv No permission in permission file I get this when I install Netatalk1.4b2 as well. With the umich package (non a sun-ed) I can do just about everything regardless of this apparent problem. However Netatalk1.4b2+asun.. (latest version as far as I know from your site) has a problem. Everything loads up and the server is available to apple clients but when a client tries to login with the chooser there is a long pause before available volumes are listed. Then, it shows the user the home directory but when clicked it says that a pipe was broken. Here are some of the things I have done (install stuff): commented tcpwrap stuff (where do I get this?) commented randnum stuff (will get the libs tonight) commented pam stuff added services.atalk additions to /etc/services (why the 'k'? typo?) So the questions are: does this problem sound familiar? WHat can I do? is the drv_config stuff related? how do I set permission in the /etc/minor_perm file? (i will look into this elsewhere so don't answer if it does not relate.) And two more: I am unsure about the README.ASUN text. Do I need 7.6.1 before this patch set works or just for the randnum stuff (or was it the TCPWRAP stuff)? (I have 7.6 on the macs) WHat's this about STREAMS module? Thanks for making your work available to us all (a sun and wes and others). This program cooks. It is really great and unbelievably inexpensive. I like free. :P Regards, -jarrod -- -- Jarrod P. Stenberg jarrod@denizen.net 612.646.6427 www.visi.com/~jarrod 612.901.6650 www.denizen.net "Anishanabeg got big pejogs" - Dubliner bar From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 1 22:28:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id WAA29310; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:28:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id WAA29297; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:28:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id WAA29295; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:28:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with SMTP id WAA29150; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:20:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (bulk_mailer v1.5+); Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:18:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-release-list id WAA29091; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:18:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-release@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu id WAA29084; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:18:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk-release@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu id WAA29059; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:17:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk-release-members@umich.edu id WAA29057; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:17:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id WAA29051; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:17:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199712020317.WAA29051@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: netatalk@umich.edu To: netatalk-release@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] [netatalk-release] afpd free space calculations Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 22:17:27 -0500 X-Sender: epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu A patch has been posted to the following webpage: http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk/patches/1.4b2/ The patch's name: afpd-bfree.diff The patch fixes afpd's calculations regarding free disk space w/o resorting to u_long's. Please notify netatalk@umich.edu of any difficulties, side effects, or wonderful benefits that the patch may generate for you. Thank you, netatalk@umich.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 1 22:43:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id WAA29908; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:43:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id WAA29903; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:42:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id WAA03521; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:43:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id WAA03517 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:43:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from typhoon.typhoon.co.jp (typhoon.typhoon.co.jp [202.33.21.39]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA03491 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:43:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (fbsd@localhost) by typhoon.typhoon.co.jp (8.8.8/8.8.8/TIS) with SMTP id MAA06362; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 12:42:47 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 12:42:47 +0900 (JST) From: FBSD To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Strange netatalk behavior on FreeBSD2.2.2-R Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have a strange problem with Netatalk (netatalk-1.4b2, not the port but a compile from scratch) on a FreeBSD2.2.2-R machine. Contents of /usr/local/atalk/etc/AppleVolumes.default: # This file looks empty when viewed with "vi". In fact, there is one # '~', so users with no AppleVolumes file in their home directory get # their home directory by default. ~ /usr/home/folder01 /usr/home/folder02 /usr/home/folder03 /usr/home/folder04 /usr/home/folder05 /usr/home/folder06 /usr/home/folder07 /usr/home/folder08 /usr/home/folder09 /usr/home/folder10 ... ... /usr/home/folder11 Mac users can see all the folders but when an user wants to mount "folder01", "folder10" is mounted! Or when the user wants to mount "folder09", "folder03" is mounted! It's always the wrong one. Anyone else has seen this behavior? Suggestions/Advice PLEASE! Many Thanks. Regards, FBSD From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 2 01:05:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id BAA16652; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 01:05:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id BAA16648; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 01:05:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id BAA19836; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 01:06:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id BAA19834 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 01:06:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id BAA19830 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 01:06:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA09137 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:04:28 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA24546; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:05:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:05:11 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712020605.WAA24546@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] pre-a18 ready for testing Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu this patchset fixes several bugs plus adds in some *new* features: 1) if you're on a solaris machine, and you're using the beta STREAMS ddp module, edit sys/solaris/Makefile to include -DNEW_STREAMS_MODULE . 2) byte locks should now be supported on non afs machines. i've been informed that read file locks work for afs machines, so i enabled those. i haven't really tested byte locks, so i would appreciate any reports of success or failure. specifically, i'm not sure if i'm interpreting the start/end and lock/unlock bitfields correctly. as always, the patchset is at . if there aren't any difficulties, i'll make a patch relative to 1.4b2 and a17.2 available as well. -adrian From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 2 02:25:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id CAA21511; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 02:25:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id CAA21507; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 02:25:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA13390; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 02:25:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA13388 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 02:25:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (colossus.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.202]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id CAA13378 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 02:25:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jon@localhost) by colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA27977; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 09:28:00 +0200 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 09:28:00 +0200 (SAT) From: John Ostrowick To: ReWt cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Icons In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu copy and paste under macos. also if you want to change the icon on the main partition, allow a root login (edit auth.c) and then paste the icon. ________________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick jon@cs.wits.ac.za Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand 1 Jan Smuts Ave, Johannesburg, South Africa. Senate House 1012 Phone: +27 11 716-3783 Fax: +27 11 339-3513 My web page: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/more/jon/aboutme.html My ftp site: ftp://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za My listserv: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/listservs.html On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, ReWt wrote: > > Just wondering if there is a way to change the icon that shows up once you > are connected to the server via the mac machine. I have had no problems > with netatalk whatsoever but I would like to know if that is possible. > > Matt Chapman > > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 2 05:57:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id FAA16938; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 05:57:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id FAA16932; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 05:57:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA29655; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 05:57:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA29652 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 05:57:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp.abac.com (smtp.abac.com [208.137.248.30]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id FAA29627; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 05:57:23 -0500 (EST) From: U.N.I.V.E.R.S.I.T.Y.T.E.X.T@smtp.abac.com Received: from smtp.abac.com (la-ppp-109.abac.com [209.60.248.109]) by smtp.abac.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id CAA02940; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 02:58:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailhost.nowhere.com (alt1.nowhere.com (208.137.887.15)) by nowhere.com (8.8.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA00064 for <>; Tue, 02 Dec 1997 01:49:32 -0600 (EST) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 97 01:49:32 EST To: Friend@public.com Subject: [netatalk-admins] NO MORE BOOKSTORE !!!!!!!! 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VISIT US AT UNIVERSITYTEXT.COM If you have any questions regarding this website, please e-mail us at: dj@universitytext.com From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 2 08:38:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA20513; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 08:38:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA20508; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 08:38:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA26177; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 08:38:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA26163 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 08:38:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id IAA26125 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 08:38:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09483; Tue, 2 Dec 97 13:38:31 GMT Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 13:35:03 GMT From: John Barry -Technician Received: from sonic (sonic.tees) by scorch; Tue, 2 Dec 97 13:37:59 GMT Date: Tue, 2 Dec 97 13:38:21 GMT Message-Id: <20320.9712021338@sonic> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] spam Cc: dj@universitytext.com Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I've just mailed the dickhead who spammed the list about 10 copies of the offending mail, might I suggest others do the same. meanwhile I shall track down the ISP and complain formerly to them :) later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 2 09:04:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA21423; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 09:04:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA21417; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 09:04:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA03786; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 09:04:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA03784 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 09:04:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from fly.cnuce.cnr.it (foda-devel.cnuce.cnr.it [131.114.192.86]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id JAA03336 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 09:02:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by fly.cnuce.cnr.it (Smail3.1.26.7 #3) id m0xcsxR-0001MjC; Tue, 2 Dec 97 15:05 MET Message-Id: Date: Tue, 2 Dec 97 15:05 MET From: Francesco Potorti` To: Netatalk admins Subject: [netatalk-admins] Cannot login as guest on Linux Organization: CNUCE-CNR, Via S.Maria 36, Pisa - Italy +39-50-593211 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I just installed netatalk on Linux, using the prepackaged Debian binary. Everything goes well (thanks, people!), but I cannot log in as guest on the Linux box. I added an entry for a cdrom in /etc/AppleVolumes.default, and indeed the volume is seen by regular users from Macs, but one cannot mount it as guest, as the guest radio button is grayed. I browsed through the latest year archive of the mailing list, but found nothing to this respect. Thanks for reading and for any help -- Francesco Potorti` (researcher) Voice: +39-50-593203 Computer Network Division Operator: +39-50-593211 CNUCE-CNR, Via Santa Maria 36 Fax: +39-50-904052 56126 Pisa - Italy Email: F.Potorti@cnuce.cnr.it From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 2 10:04:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA23724; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 10:04:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA23719; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 10:04:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id KAA17476; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 10:05:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id KAA17464 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 10:05:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from letku.hut.fi (letku.hut.fi [130.233.242.45]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA17446 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 10:05:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ayrjola@localhost.hut.fi [127.0.0.1]) by letku.hut.fi (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA08740 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 17:04:28 +0200 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 17:04:28 +0200 (EET) From: Ari Yrjola To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] spam In-Reply-To: <20320.9712021338@sonic> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 2 Dec 1997, John Barry -Technician wrote: > Hi, > I've just mailed the dickhead who spammed the list about 10 copies of the > offending mail, might I suggest others do the same. > meanwhile I shall track down the ISP and complain formerly to them :) I sent the following notice to postmaster@abac.com,postmaster@crl.com and uce@ftc.gov: ------- Somebody used abac.com to send spam to the netatalk-admins mailing list. Looking at the headers, it seems that spammer came from crl.com, as IP number 209.60.248.109 is in their netblock. Please configure your SMTP server at abac.com not to relay any third-party mail through your system, and crl.com should hunt this criminal down and cut his balls. ------ Remember when complaining postmasters about spam to include the offending message *with all headers*. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 2 11:12:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA25710; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 11:12:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhub.hitchcock.org (MAILHUB.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.100]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with SMTP for id LAA25706; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 11:12:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailbox1.Hitchcock.ORG (MAILBOX1.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.110]) by mailhub.hitchcock.org (8.6.12-DND/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA02118; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 11:12:45 -0500 Message-id: <13807179@mailbox1.Hitchcock.ORG> Date: 02 Dec 97 11:13:26 EST From: William.P.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG (William P. McGonigle) Reply-To: Bill.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk FAQ-O-Matic To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu, linux-atalk@netspace.org Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu My FAQ has been getting out of date for a while, so I've installed a FAQ-O-Matic for netatalk. The FAQ-O-Matic allows anybody to add information to the FAQ. The scope has been broadened to include all flavors of netatalk, since I use it myself as a resource, and I'm diversifiying my netatalk platforms. I hope it helps everybody too. Since the FAQ came from a linux-centric orientation, the content is currently linux-heavy. I've transferred the information from my old static page, but I still have a couple thousand mail messages to go through to update it, so I figured I'd open it up at this time for folks to add information. Please note that not everything is 100% functional at this point, like the search. I hope to improve that soon. The location (for now, anyway) is: http://threepio.hitchcock.org/netatalk/ Please take a look, have patience with the slow box, and add information! -Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 2 11:52:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA27645; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 11:52:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from gate.etsinc.com (etsisdn.etsinc.com [198.99.189.62]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA27639; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 11:52:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from webco.etsinc.com by gate.etsinc.com (8.8.7/gate.etsinc.com/01-06-97) id QAA23399; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 16:51:22 GMT Received: from webco.etsinc.com by webco.etsinc.com (8.6.11/Webco.etsinc.com/10-03-94) id LAA18959; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 11:46:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 11:46:23 -0500 (EST) From: Dwight Kelly To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Need AppleSingle format specs. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Can anyone send me a copy of the AppleSingle specification? I found a copy on Apple's FTP site but it is in AppleLink format and I can't find a program to read or convert that format. Thanks, --- Dwight Kelly Essential Technical Services, Inc. 315 Allen Street Cumming, GA 30130 voice:(770) 889-2848 fax:(770) 889-2624 Internet:dkelly@etsinc.com http://www.etsinc.com From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 2 16:42:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA09822; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 16:42:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from gromit.amz.lan (pdx-mx3-ip82.nwnexus.net [206.63.9.82]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA09795; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 16:41:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (myke@localhost) by gromit.amz.lan (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA13759 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 13:41:31 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: gromit.amz.lan: myke owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 13:41:28 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@gromit.amz.lan To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Losing resource fork Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've got netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17 running on a FreeBSD 2.2.x machine serving a small LAN. Users claim that files sometimes have TEXT/UNIX instead of their proper type/creator. I can't seem to replicate the problem, but I just saw this: Dec 2 13:31:18 gromit afpd[13549]: afp_setforkparams: ad_dtruncate: Invalid argument Any ideas what it means? It doesn't seem to have affected any files, at least not that anyone's noticed yet. I also get Dec 2 12:24:41 gromit afpd[9816]: atp_rresp: Operation timed out Dec 2 12:24:51 gromit afpd[9816]: afp_die: asp_shutdown: Operation timed out but these don't seem as relevant (there seems to be an unrelated problem with the network, performance is not so great and there are occasional pauses). - Mike From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 2 23:02:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id XAA19436; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 23:02:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id XAA19432; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 23:02:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id XAA27286; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 23:02:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id XAA27282 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 23:02:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from tardis.Tymnet.COM (tardis.tymnet.com [131.146.3.15]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA27272 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 23:02:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from doctor.tymnet.com (doctor.tymnet.com [131.146.3.35]) by tardis.Tymnet.COM (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA03945; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 20:01:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from doctor by doctor.tymnet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA24980; Tue, 2 Dec 1997 20:02:19 -0800 Message-Id: <199712030402.UAA24980@doctor.tymnet.com> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 20:02:18 -0800 (PST) From: Carl Baltrunas Reply-To: Carl Baltrunas Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] spam To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, John.Barry@tees.ac.uk Cc: dj@universitytext.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: NhqgenHgRDwUdNGeZeZAFw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.0 CDE Version 1.2 SunOS 5.6 sun4m sparc Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: John Barry -Technician > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 97 13:38:21 GMT > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > Subject: [netatalk-admins] spam > > Hi, > I've just mailed the dickhead who spammed the list about 10 copies of the > offending mail, might I suggest others do the same. > meanwhile I shall track down the ISP and complain formerly to them :) *BAD* *IDEA* Doing that simply re-inforces the idea that it works. It also gives the spammer an "accurate" address on you, to add to their list. Better to: 1. Simply ignore it, or track it down and send a polite message to the postmaster at the IPS responsible for carrying the user as a customer. 2. Having a procmail filter which responds to the spammer that the address does not exist. (I forget the error code, but this is probably the best thing to do). Carl A Baltrunas, MCI Advanced Network Solutions, San Jose, CA 95131 Phone: (408) 922-6206, Fax: (408) 922-6702, email: carl.baltrunas@mci.com "DOS Computers manufactured by companies such as IBM, Compaq, Tandy, and millions of others are by far the most popular, with about 70 million machines in use worldwide. Macintosh fans, on the other hand, may note that cockroaches are far more numerous than humans, and that numbers alone do not denote a higher life form." -New York Times, November 26, 1991 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 3 09:36:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA24553; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:36:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA24549; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:36:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id JAA16194; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:37:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id JAA16185 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:37:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhub.hitchcock.org (MAILHUB.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.100]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id JAA16169 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:37:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailbox1.Hitchcock.ORG (MAILBOX1.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.110]) by mailhub.hitchcock.org (8.6.12-DND/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA10560 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:36:18 -0500 Message-id: <13836080@mailbox1.Hitchcock.ORG> Date: 03 Dec 97 09:37:00 EST From: William.P.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG (William P. McGonigle) Reply-To: Bill.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] spam To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Perhaps the more effective solution would be to make this list postable only by members. -Bill --- John Barry -Technician wrote: Hi, I've just mailed the dickhead who spammed the list about 10 copies of the offending mail, might I suggest others do the same. meanwhile I shall track down the ISP and complain formerly to them :) later jb --- end of quote --- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 3 09:44:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA24840; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:44:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA24835; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:43:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA29771; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:43:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA29754 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:43:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhub.hitchcock.org (MAILHUB.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.100]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id JAA29707 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:43:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailbox1.Hitchcock.ORG (MAILBOX1.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.110]) by mailhub.hitchcock.org (8.6.12-DND/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA32085 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:43:42 -0500 Message-id: <13836496@mailbox1.Hitchcock.ORG> Date: 03 Dec 97 09:44:24 EST From: William.P.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG (William P. McGonigle) Reply-To: Bill.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Icons To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu They show up OK for me on OS8. Perhaps your custom icon bit isn't set? Check out the entry on this topic in the Netatalk FAQ-O-Matic: http://threepio.hitchcock.org/cgi-bin/faq/netatalk/faq.pl?file=33 -Bill --- a sun wrote: os8 doesn't use the server-supplied icon. copy/paste works better anyway as the server can only supply a bitmap. if you want to actually change the bitmap, look in etc/afpd/icon.h. --- end of quote --- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 3 10:58:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA28665; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 10:58:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA28658; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 10:58:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA01335; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 10:58:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA01315 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 10:58:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from voyager.dynamind-llc.com (voyager.dynamind-llc.com [206.153.113.3]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id KAA01303 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 10:58:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from dyna-ntserver by voyager.dynamind-llc.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA02624; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 10:58:54 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971203105830.00d65cc0@dynamind-llc.com> X-Sender: philip@dynamind-llc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 10:58:30 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: "Philip S. Wachtel" Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and samba Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! I have netatalk and samba running well together. However, there is one directory that I've set up as a shared directory where everyone can share files. Again, it all works fine, but the .AppleDesktop and .AppleDouble directories are visible on the Windows machines and are confusing the users a bit. I'm wondering if anyone out there has found a way cleaning up this setup. Thanks very much! Philip From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 3 12:21:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA02328; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 12:21:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA02320; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 12:21:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA27889; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 12:22:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA27875 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 12:22:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from cubs.bose.com (bose.com [146.115.60.177]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA27845; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 12:22:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mingus.bose.com by cubs.bose.com (8.8.7/BF.1.0) id MAA25317; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 12:25:00 -0500 Received: from hancock.bose.com by mingus.bose.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16539; Wed, 3 Dec 97 12:21:27 EST Received: by hancock.bose.com (SMI-8.6/BoseClient1.0) id MAA03461; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 12:21:17 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 12:21:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199712031721.MAA03461@hancock.bose.com> From: Tony Silva To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Cc: asun@zoology.washington.edu, kann@cs.geneseo.edu, wesley.craig@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: Problems with "Too many files open" [on Solaris 2.5.1] Comments: Hyperbole mail buttons accepted, v04.023. Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:05:44 -0400, kann (kann@cs.geneseo.edu) wrote: >> I am running 1.4b2 on Solaris 2.5.1 and it works mostly well. The >> problem is that for two of our classes we need to use Netscape 4.0 >> and CodeWarrior 12. The problem is that both of these programs >> seem to open a lot of files and this does not seem to work under >> Netatalk and Solaris. It does, however, work under AppleShare IP 5.0. On Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:26:47 -0700 (PDT), a sun (asun@zoology.washington.edu) responded: > up the system-wide max number of open files and see if you still have > problems. you need to do it system-wide because each afpd session runs > as a particular user. Can anyone tell me exactly how to do this under Solaris 2.5.1? Is there some Solaris header file I need to tweak? Do I need to rebuild the kernel, netatalk, or both? I've rebuilt many SunOS4 and Linux kernels and have done quite a bit of UNIX hacking over the years, but only started using Solaris2 last week. BTW, in addition to "too many open files" error messages, I have also seen error messages such as: SimpleText cannot open this document. It may be in use by someone else. when I try to open a file while 5 other files are already open in SimpleText. I can consistently reproduce the error with no other applications open on my Mac and only a single non-NFS Sun directory containing around 20 files mounted on my Mac. I am running netatalk 1.4b2 on a Sparcation20 with Solaris 2.5.1. My Mac is a PowerPC 7100 running MacOS 7.5.1. Here's my /usr/kernel/drv/ddp.conf file: # # Netatalk driver's configuration file # name="ddp" parent="pseudo" instance=0 ndevs=100 nlocalrts=256; Any clues or suggestions for things to try will be greatly appreciated. Please "CC: silvat@bose.com" on your response since I am not yet on the netatalk-admins mailing list. TIA, -- Tony Tony Silva tel: (508)766-4121 Bose Corporation FAX: (508)820-9522 The Mountain, M/S 234 Internet: silvat@bose.com Framingham, MA 01701-9168 tony_silva@alum.mit.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 3 13:52:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA07194; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:52:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA07187; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:52:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA18772; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:52:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA18767 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (aupair.cs.athabascau.ca [131.232.10.8]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA18760 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:52:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (473 bytes) by aupair.cs.athabascau.ca via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_dns/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 11:52:35 -0700 (MST) (Smail-3.2.0.98 1997-Oct-16 #1 built 1997-Nov-13) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 11:52:35 -0700 (MST) From: daryl@cs.athabascau.ca (Daryl Campbell) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] bsdi Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu We'd like to consider netatalk on a server running bsdi 3.x. Has anybody successfully run netatalk-14b2 in this environment? -- Daryl Campbell As I was going up the stair. Athabasca University I met a man who wasn't there. He wasn't there again today - daryl@cs.athabascau.ca Oh, how I wish he'd go away. (403)675-6379 ANON From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 3 14:12:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA08884; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:12:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA08876; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:12:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA19756; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:12:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA19736 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:12:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from nora.hbk-bs.de (ip193-175-242-144.hbk-bs.de [193.175.242.144]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA19713 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:12:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by nora.hbk-bs.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA01446; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 20:12:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from spock.hbk-bs.de(193.175.242.145) by nora.hbk-bs.de via smap (V2.0) id xma001444; Wed, 3 Dec 97 20:12:26 +0100 Received: from marvin.hbk-bs.de by spock.hbk-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA04047; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 20:12:23 +0100 Received: by marvin.hbk-bs.de (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA03953; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 20:12:22 +0100 From: h.foest@hbk-bs.de (Hanno Foest) Message-Id: <199712031912.UAA03953@marvin.hbk-bs.de> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Re: Problems with "Too many files open" [on Solaris 2.5.1] In-Reply-To: <199712031721.MAA03461@hancock.bose.com> from Tony Silva at "Dec 3, 97 12:21:17 pm" To: silvat@bose.com (Tony Silva) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 20:12:22 +0100 (MET) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi. > > up the system-wide max number of open files and see if you still have > > problems. you need to do it system-wide because each afpd session runs > > as a particular user. > > Can anyone tell me exactly how to do this under Solaris 2.5.1? Is > there some Solaris header file I need to tweak? >From the Solaris 2 FAQ, http://www.wins.uva.nl/pub/solaris/solaris2.html: Solaris 2.x supports a virtually unlimited number of open filedescriptors [...]. 3.43) How can I increase the number of file descriptors per process? In 2.3 in earlier this requires poking the kernel. In Solaris 2.4+, this can be accomplished by adding the following lines to /etc/system: * set hard limit on file descriptors set rlim_fd_max = 4096 * set soft limit on file descriptors set rlim_fd_cur = 1024 Raising the soft limit past 256 may confuse certain applications, especially BCP applications. Raising the limit past 1024 may confuse applications that use select(). Programs using stdio or even library calls that use stdio may break when they have more than 256 files open as that is the stdio limit. Programs using many filedescriptors should try and reserve a number of low numbered file descriptors for use by stdio. HTH. Hanno From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 3 14:59:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA11034; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:59:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA11027; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:58:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA05123; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:59:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA05107 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:59:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from uustar.starnet.net (uustar.starnet.net [199.217.253.12]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA04683 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:58:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from Udatapag@localhost) by uustar.starnet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id NAA28108; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:42:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from 172.16.6.1 by datapage.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA03701; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:37:22 -0600 X-Sender: tim@stlouis.datapage.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971203105830.00d65cc0@dynamind-llc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:36:36 -0600 To: "Philip S. Wachtel" From: Tim Rand Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and samba Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 9:58 AM -0600 12/3/97, Philip S. Wachtel wrote: >I have netatalk and samba running well together. However, there is one >directory that I've set up as a shared directory where everyone can share >files. Again, it all works fine, but the .AppleDesktop and .AppleDouble >directories are visible on the Windows machines and are confusing the users >a bit. I'm wondering if anyone out there has found a way cleaning up this >setup. The latest release (1.9.17p2) of Samba has a VETO FILES = option that allows you to hide certain files by pattern. I have mine set to: veto files = /.AppleDouble/.AppleDesktop/Network Trash Folder/ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 3 15:07:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA11650; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:07:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA11644; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:07:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA19434; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:07:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA19412 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:07:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from what.if.net (what.if.net [205.178.22.6]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA19384 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:07:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from [205.178.22.15] (only.if.net [205.178.22.15]) by what.if.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA30329 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 12:09:08 -0800 X-Sender: chris@what.if.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 12:09:08 -0800 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Chris Thorman Subject: [netatalk-admins] A few inquiries Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folks, I am writing a netatalk-aware Linux-based CGI application that manipulates files on the server. (A simple image database application.) I am interested in doing a couple of things that might be of general interest and hence someone else might have done before. Before I create these modules myself, I thought I should at least inquire about these possibilities: 1) Extracting resources Has anyone created a netatalk-aware resource manager (at least for reading)? As an example, I'd like to extract custom color icons from a file and display them on a CGI form. 2) Create .sit, .zip, or other Mac-readable archives Does anyone know of netatalk-aware code to create these or other popular Mac-friendly archive-file formats? As an example, I'd like to write a program to convert a batch of files to an archive format (and then possibly convert the archive itself to .hqx using netatalk's megatron). If I were to undertake writing these modules, would there be anyone interested in helping? Would you have relevant code or pointers to it to contribute to the effort? Is there anyone interested in this code if I do write it? Is something like this worth contributing back to netatalk? -c ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chris Thorman ct@ignitiondesign.com Ignition, Inc. (415) 392-6244 x3 870 Market Street (415) 392-6245 fax San Francisco, CA 94102 http://ignitiondesign.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 3 15:44:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA13431; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:44:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA13425; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:43:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA26532; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:43:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA26511 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:43:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from dda.samurajdata.se (t1o63p34.telia.com [195.198.44.34]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA26470 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:43:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from dse.samurajdata.se (dse.samurajdata.se [10.10.10.24]) by dda.samurajdata.se (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA10234; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 21:47:08 +0100 Message-ID: <3485C514.438A@student.hk-r.se> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 21:46:12 +0100 From: Claes =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E5nsson?= Reply-To: pt95cma@student.hk-r.se Organization: Samuraj Data X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Philip S. Wachtel" CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and samba References: <3.0.1.32.19971203105830.00d65cc0@dynamind-llc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Philip S. Wachtel wrote: [deletia] > files. Again, it all works fine, but the .AppleDesktop and .AppleDouble > directories are visible on the Windows machines and are confusing the users > a bit. I'm wondering if anyone out there has found a way cleaning up this > setup. This is really a samba question, but since it seems to be a common problem for netatalk-admins, here's how to fix it in smb.conf (cut from "man smb.conf"): > Example2: > Veto the Apple specific files that a Netatalk server > creates. > > veto files = /.AppleDouble/.bin/.AppleDesktop/Network Trash Folder/ "veto files" seems to be a rather newly implemented option, so you might have to upgrade your samba package first. Hope this helps! /Claes From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 3 16:24:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA14994; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:24:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA14984; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:23:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA19352; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:23:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA19250 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:23:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from gummy.cs.indiana.edu (gummy.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.252.102]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA19136 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:23:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (brbothwe@localhost) by gummy.cs.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/IUCS_2.13) with SMTP id QAA02369 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:23:22 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: gummy.cs.indiana.edu: brbothwe owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:23:20 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Eric Bothwell To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Newbie questions... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I recently upgraded from netatalk-1.3.3-8 to version 1.4b2, and have a few problems: First, when I shut down the older verions of the atalkd, then tried to fired up the new version I kept getting the "AppleTalk not up! Child exited with 1" error which I have read about. I checked the logfiles and found this error message: Dec 2 16:29:12 wtlinux atalkd[20955]: restart Dec 2 16:29:13 wtlinux atalkd[20955]: bind 46672.94:6: Address already in use After trying about everything but rebooting, I did just that: reboot. When the netatalk stuff came up, the new version started up without a hitch. Is there some better way to fix this bind problem? Since the machine is a web and file server, I don't want to have to reboot everytime I want to restart netalk... --- Also, I was using a RPM package of netatalk-1.3.3-8, which installed all of the config files under /etc. I compiled and installed the 1.4b2 version under /usr/local/atalk/*, and just copied the AppleVolumes.default and AppleVolumes.system files to /usr/local/atalk/etc However, now the only directory that shows up when a user logs via netatalk is their home dir. Here is the AppleVolumes.default file ------------------------------------------------------ ~ HOME /usr/local/www/docs WWW /usr/local/www/cgi CGI /usr/local/www/docs/andrea ANDREA /usr/local/www/docs/webcd WEB-CD /home/backups BACKUPS /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl PERLLIBS Is there something else I am missing to make these entries show up in the chooser? It worked fine under 1.3.3 Thanks! -Brian PS I am running RedHat Linux 4.2 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 3 16:40:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA16140; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:40:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA16129; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:40:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA17561; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:41:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA17554 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:41:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.sacbee.com (mail.sacbee.com [204.86.242.27]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA17529 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:41:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from exchange1.sacbee.com (exchange1.sacbee.com [128.103.5.210]) by mail.sacbee.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27317 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:43:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from matteo.sacbee.com by exchange1.sacbee.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1458.49) id W0BFTPD2; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:41:18 -0800 X-Sender: mmatteo@exchange1.sacbee.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:39:23 -0800 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Marc Matteo Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Newbie questions... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Brian Eric Bothwell wrote: >After trying about everything but rebooting, I did just that: reboot. >When the netatalk stuff came up, the new version started up without a >hitch. Is there some better way to fix this bind problem? Since the >machine is a web and file server, I don't want to have to reboot everytime >I want to restart netalk... Update your kernel (and headers) to 2.0.32 (or there's a kernel header path patch that I think come with asun's netatalk patch... better to update the kernel. Then recompile netatalk - problem solved. >PS I am running RedHat Linux 4.2 On the Red Hat errata page there's info on updating the kernel via RPM... but don't forget the headers too :) (I did). Marc Marc Matteo Web Engineer, The Sacramento Bee (916) 321-1242 http://www.sacbee.com From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 3 17:06:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA17425; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 17:06:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA17414; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 17:06:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA05979; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 17:06:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA05962 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 17:06:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out2.apple.com (mail-out2.apple.com [17.254.0.51]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA05956 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 17:05:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from scv3.apple.com (A17-128-100-121.apple.com [17.128.100.121]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA07066; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:49:57 -0800 Received: from [17.221.34.231] (zarzda.apple.com [17.221.34.231]) by scv3.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA37508; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:49:51 -0800 Message-Id: <199712032149.NAA37508@scv3.apple.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Newbie questions... Date: Wed, 3 Dec 97 13:49:54 -0800 x-sender: zarzycki@pop.ricochet.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Dave Zarzycki To: "Brian Eric Bothwell" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On 12/3/97 1:23 PM, Brian Eric Bothwell (brbothwe@cs.indiana.edu) wrote: >After trying about everything but rebooting, I did just that: reboot. >When the netatalk stuff came up, the new version started up without a >hitch. Is there some better way to fix this bind problem? Since the >machine is a web and file server, I don't want to have to reboot everytime >I want to restart netalk... If you are using RedHat 4.2, then all you need to do is unload the appletalk module and then fire up the startup script again. davez ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Zarzycki Student Intern San Jose State University Apple Computer, Inc. dzarzyck@email.sjsu.edu zarzycki@apple.com zarzycki@ricochet.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP Fingerprints (RSA): 8AF2 1040 8A9C D025 47BE 70DD A51C C887 DSS/Diffie-Hellman: CB9E 2621 B4BA 3F96 3516 B312 15B4 D842 3809 EF99 Contact pgpkeys.mit.edu for my public keys. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 3 17:34:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA19019; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 17:34:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA19014; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 17:34:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA08227; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 17:35:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA08209 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 17:35:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from sparta.scl.co.uk (sparta.scl.co.uk [163.164.160.4]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA08200 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 17:35:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from [163.164.164.52] (lydia.scl.co.uk [163.164.164.52]) by sparta.scl.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA23008 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 22:34:25 GMT X-Sender: john@mail.scl.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 22:33:49 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: john@scl.co.uk (John Sutton) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Newbie questions... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >After trying about everything but rebooting, I did just that: reboot. >When the netatalk stuff came up, the new version started up without a >hitch. Is there some better way to fix this bind problem? Since the >machine is a web and file server, I don't want to have to reboot everytime >I want to restart netalk... Apparently the later Linux kernels have fixed this problem. I don't have the details because I use another solution - compile appletalk as a module. Then you can unload the module rather than rebooting the system. >Is there something else I am missing to make these entries show up in the >chooser? It worked fine under 1.3.3 Odd. Looks OK to me. *********************** John Sutton SCL Computer Services http://www.scl.co.uk Tel +44 (0) 1239 621021 *********************** From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 3 18:58:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA22001; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 18:58:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu id SAA21993; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 18:58:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA16439; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:44:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA27883; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:44:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA27875 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:44:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from interlock.amoco.com (interlock.amoco.com [192.195.167.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id QAA27853 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:44:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by interlock.amoco.com id AA11160 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu); Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:44:36 -0600 Message-Id: <199712032144.AA11160@interlock.amoco.com> Received: by interlock.amoco.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-3); Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:44:36 -0600 Received: by interlock.amoco.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-2); Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:44:36 -0600 Received: by interlock.amoco.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:44:36 -0600 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 15:44:30 -0600 From: "Andrew W. Robinson" Organization: Amoco Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Help with installing netatalk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all, I'm trying to install netatalk on a Solaris 2.5.1 system so that I may access unix files on my Mac at home over the company-provided ISDN line. I've installed a lot of software, but I know little about networking in general and almost nothing about AppleTalk in particular. I don't know if this question is related to that or not. My question involves the entries for /etc/services (or services NIS map in my case): rtmp 1/ddp # Routing Table Maintenance Protocol nbp 2/ddp # Name Binding Protocol echo 4/ddp # AppleTalk Echo Protocol zip 6/ddp # Zone Information Protocol Can these port numbers be changed? In particular, port 1 is already claimed by something called tcpmux. Looking through the list, the only doubled up port uses I see are ones for the same service but different protocols. In general, these port numbers are mighty low and might draw the attention of other sysadmins who would object to anything with the letters a-p-p-l-e that looks that tightly coupled with the operating system. Large port numbers would look more like "just another application" and probably attract less concern. Thanks in advance! Andrew Robinson -- Offshore Business Unit email: awrobinson@amoco.com Amoco Corporation phone: (504) 586-6888 New Orleans, LA fax: (504) 586-2637 ----- The events depicted herein are fictional. Any similarity to persons living or dead is entirely...oops, wrong disclaimer From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 3 19:06:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA22424; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 19:06:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA22416; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 19:06:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA11916; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 19:06:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA11911 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 19:06:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA11881 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 19:06:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA20650; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 00:06:18 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 00:06:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: "Andrew W. Robinson" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Help with installing netatalk In-Reply-To: <199712032144.AA11160@interlock.amoco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The entries already in your services map refer to tcp and udp services - those that run over TCP-IP. The ones that netatalk wants you to add refer to ddp services - those that run over the AppleTalk protocol. So there will be no conflict between the two. On Wed, 3 Dec 1997, Andrew W. Robinson wrote: > My question involves the entries for /etc/services (or services > NIS > map in my case): > > rtmp 1/ddp # Routing Table Maintenance > Protocol > nbp 2/ddp # Name Binding Protocol > echo 4/ddp # AppleTalk Echo Protocol > zip 6/ddp # Zone Information Protocol > > Can these port numbers be changed? In particular, port 1 is > already > claimed by something called tcpmux. Looking through the list, the > only doubled up port uses I see are ones for the same service but > different protocols. In general, these port numbers are mighty > low > and might draw the attention of other sysadmins who would object > to > anything with the letters a-p-p-l-e that looks that tightly > coupled > with the operating system. Large port numbers would look more > like > "just another application" and probably attract less concern. -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 3 20:30:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA25542; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 20:30:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from yoda.fdt.net (yoda.fdt.net [205.229.48.17]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id UAA25534; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 20:30:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from [205.229.53.4] (pc3.tss.fdt.net [205.229.53.4]) by yoda.fdt.net with SMTP id UAA06023 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 20:30:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199712040130.UAA06023@yoda.fdt.net> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Port to BeOS underway? Date: Wed, 3 Dec 97 20:34:26 -0500 x-sender: tss-macd@fdt.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: Bill Hayden To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Forgive me if this has been discussed before, but I was wondering if a port to BeOS is underway for Netatalk (or at least afpd). BeOS already has Appletalk support of some kind, but could _really_ use afpd. I would attempt it myself, but my newness to the Netatalk scene probably doesn't make me a good candidate. Besides, I'm porting Hotline to BeOS currently. Both of these have the potential to be must-haves for the Be community. Anyway, to make a long story short - anyone tried to move afpd to BeOS? Thanks, Bill Hayden Teacher Support Software, Inc. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 3 20:32:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA25682; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 20:32:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id UAA25675; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 20:32:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA23958; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 20:32:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA23956 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 20:32:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from yoda.fdt.net (yoda.fdt.net [205.229.48.17]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA23947 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 20:32:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from [205.229.53.4] (pc3.tss.fdt.net [205.229.53.4]) by yoda.fdt.net with SMTP id UAA06165 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 20:32:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199712040132.UAA06165@yoda.fdt.net> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Port to BeOS underway? Date: Wed, 3 Dec 97 20:36:25 -0500 x-sender: tss-macd@fdt.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: Bill Hayden To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Forgive me if this has been discussed before, but I was wondering if a port to BeOS is underway for Netatalk (or at least afpd). BeOS already has Appletalk support of some kind, but could _really_ use afpd. I would attempt it myself, but my newness to the Netatalk scene probably doesn't make me a good candidate. Besides, I'm porting Hotline to BeOS currently. Both of these have the potential to be must-haves for the Be community. Anyway, to make a long story short - anyone tried to move afpd to BeOS? Thanks, Bill Hayden Teacher Support Software, Inc. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 3 23:40:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id XAA00349; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 23:40:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id XAA00339; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 23:40:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id XAA09973; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 23:41:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id XAA09970 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 23:41:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA09963 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 23:41:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA04040; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 20:30:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from UNKNOWN(), claiming to be "current1.whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd004036; Wed Dec 3 20:30:29 1997 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 20:28:07 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: Daryl Campbell cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] bsdi In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu That depends if they have the atalk stack in the kernel. if not you might be able (with work) to take the stack from freeBSD or NetBSD. On Wed, 3 Dec 1997, Daryl Campbell wrote: > > We'd like to consider netatalk on a server running bsdi 3.x. > > Has anybody successfully run netatalk-14b2 in this environment? > > -- > Daryl Campbell As I was going up the stair. > Athabasca University I met a man who wasn't there. > He wasn't there again today - > daryl@cs.athabascau.ca Oh, how I wish he'd go away. > (403)675-6379 ANON > From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 3 23:40:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id XAA00355; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 23:40:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id XAA00344; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 23:40:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id XAA09997; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 23:41:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id XAA09986 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 23:41:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA09975 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 23:41:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA04171; Wed, 3 Dec 1997 20:39:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from UNKNOWN(), claiming to be "current1.whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd004167; Wed Dec 3 20:39:38 1997 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 20:37:16 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: "Philip S. Wachtel" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk and samba In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971203105830.00d65cc0@dynamind-llc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu If you look at teh SAMBA documentation, you will see that there is an option "veto files" which I added specifically to hide .AppleDouble and .AppleDesktop files from SAMBA users. Newer version sof samba know how to handle deleting directories that contain nothing but an old veto'd directory. I.e. If teh directory is empty except for veto'd files that the SAMBA user can't see, and you are trying to delete the directory, then just zap teh veto'd files and then delete the directory. I forget teh option anme for that but it's in the docs. In FreeBSD 3.0 there is also a kernel option to manipulate file directories for SAMBA and netatalk directories more in line with what SAMBA/MAC users expect... (i.e. teh filesystem can be mounted with an option that makes teh system handle ownerships in a way less like UNIX and more like PC users expect.. ("It's in my folder, it must be owned by me!"). This is unsafe for shell machines but great for SAMBA/NetATALK servers as the users never get in teh position of being unable to cleanout their folders (which DOES happen if you have users giving each other files and folders) This is just an indication of how SAMBA and Netatalk are co-operating.. we use them both in our product (www.whistle.com) (and sponsor development of them) julian On Wed, 3 Dec 1997, Philip S. Wachtel wrote: > Hi! > > I have netatalk and samba running well together. However, there is one > directory that I've set up as a shared directory where everyone can share > files. Again, it all works fine, but the .AppleDesktop and .AppleDouble > directories are visible on the Windows machines and are confusing the users > a bit. I'm wondering if anyone out there has found a way cleaning up this > setup. > > Thanks very much! > > Philip > From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 4 10:44:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA06908; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:44:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA06900; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:44:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id KAA19862; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:45:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id KAA19857 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:45:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA19842 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:45:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from [12.64.134.56] by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with ESMTP id AAA20246 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 15:43:48 +0000 X-Sender: AtomSmith@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 07:45:35 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: George Geller Subject: [netatalk-admins] LaserWriter and Linux Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I know we went over this recently on this mailing list, but it didn't reach a satisfactory conclusion. I'm trying to get my Apple Personal LaserWriter II NT working with my Linux box. I connected the hardware according to the instructions in the printer's manual. When I tried to access it from the Linux box, nothing happens at all. Are there any diagnostic programs I can run to see what is going on with my serial port? Has anyone else had success with thie setup? Thanks, George From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 4 11:41:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA09439; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:41:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA09430; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:41:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id LAA17414; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:42:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id LAA17405 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:42:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhub.hitchcock.org (MAILHUB.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.100]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id LAA16953 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:41:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailbox1.Hitchcock.ORG (MAILBOX1.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.110]) by mailhub.hitchcock.org (8.6.12-DND/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA02031; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:40:34 -0500 Message-id: <13874849@mailbox1.Hitchcock.ORG> Date: 04 Dec 97 11:41:16 EST From: William.P.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG (William P. McGonigle) Reply-To: Bill.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] LaserWriter and Linux To: AtomSmith@worldnet.att.net, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --- George Geller wrote: I'm trying to get my Apple Personal LaserWriter II NT working with my Linux box. --- end of quote --- My experience with Mac printers and PC's and Macs and PC printers, is that you generally need a null modem adapter ($5 at Radio Shack) to get the wires crossed the right way. -Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 4 11:57:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA10406; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:57:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA10399; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:57:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA16889; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:57:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA16864 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:57:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at (germ2.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.2]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA16787 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:57:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from buster.retti.at (internet@pc1-c608.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.17]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.7/8.8.6 (l 2)) with ESMTP id SAA01067; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 18:56:57 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (m610.retti.at [192.168.0.13]) by buster.retti.at (8.8.3/8.8.3 (GR v 1.1)) with ESMTP id RAA26251; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 17:55:25 +0100 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 17:55:25 +0100 X-Sender: gregor@mail.retti.at Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: George Geller , netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Gregor Retti Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] LaserWriter and Linux Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 7:45 Uhr +0100 04.12.1997, George Geller wrote: >I know we went over this recently on this mailing list, but it didn't reach >a satisfactory conclusion. > >I'm trying to get my Apple Personal LaserWriter II NT working with my Linux >box. I connected the hardware according to the instructions in the >printer's manual. When I tried to access it from the Linux box, nothing >happens at all. > some suggestions: - if I do recall this correctly the old laserwriter II NT has some switch to activate either the appletalk or the serial port - did you check out the Printing-Howto and the Serial-Howto. there are some notes there about serial printers. I think it might be important to set the correct baud rate (9600 ?). setserial will do this. - for testing just make yourself a simple postscript-file and cat it to the serial port where the laserwriter is connected. - finally check the rights of the device-file, to make sure lp can write to it hope this helps gregor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ----------- http://germanistik.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 4 12:52:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA12120; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 12:52:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA12113; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 12:51:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA18797; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 12:52:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA18790 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 12:52:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from silverserver.co.at (router.silverserver.co.at [194.152.178.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA18710 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 12:52:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ost@localhost) by silverserver.co.at (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA05719 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 18:51:19 +0100 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 18:51:19 +0100 (CET) From: ost X-Sender: ost@silverserver.co.at Reply-To: ost To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] printer problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu i want to plug in at this stage, though my printing problem is different from goerge's. ihave successfully connected a psotscript printer to linux-box i can printout file sfrom linux. then i started papd in order to also print from the macs. i see the spooler in the chooser, but when i finally try to really print , i just get a "postscript error". is this a common problem with a common solution? thnx. oswald. X obj 391 380 trigger bang int; From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 4 14:15:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA14100; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 14:15:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA14093; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 14:15:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA00982; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 14:15:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA00964 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 14:15:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from voyager.dynamind-llc.com (voyager.dynamind-llc.com [206.153.113.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id OAA00946 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 14:15:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from dyna-ntserver by voyager.dynamind-llc.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA12736; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 14:15:29 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971204141511.00d30a90@dynamind-llc.com> X-Sender: philip@dynamind-llc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 14:15:11 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: "Philip S. Wachtel" Subject: [netatalk-admins] bad Apple filenames for Samba clients Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello! I recently posted a question about how to make the use of samba and netatalk cleaner by hiding (or veto-ing) the .Apple and Trash and other mac stuff. I thank all those that answered. By upgrading Samba and using veto, my problem was solved! Now, second question. Mac users tend to use all kinds of file naming conventions that PCs don't read. Is there a way of preventing Macs from saving a files with certain characters in the filenames? This would help a great deal. Yet again, I thank you very much! Philip From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 4 23:20:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id XAA27812; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 23:20:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id XAA27808; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 23:20:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id XAA07500; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 23:21:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id XAA07493 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 23:21:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from zifi.genetics.utah.edu (zifi.genetics.utah.edu [155.100.229.31]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA07489 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 23:21:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from zinc@localhost) by zifi.genetics.utah.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7/pjf) id VAA03880; Thu, 4 Dec 1997 21:20:12 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 21:20:12 -0700 Message-Id: <199712050420.VAA03880@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> From: patrick finerty To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] how to identify machine for 20092.227:243 X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Organization: planet of the monkey boys X-Face: &dh1aHu*v\s24A9~2qU[ln~;(Cz#X]d2r-@X>#j9U@vx!v8%IYU''n-H1D)}U(-0Te~ LD|Cyg6Gh-aFN{B*VSKhs}en{nXo3xkveE#BxR9 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA02390; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 08:52:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA02386; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 08:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA17918; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 08:52:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA17907 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 08:52:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.advancenet.net (hermes.cu-online.com [205.198.248.82]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA17896 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 08:51:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from argus-systems.com (ranger.argus-systems.com [206.221.232.80]) by mail.advancenet.net (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA10559; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 08:53:56 -0600 Received: by argus-systems.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA04265; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 07:53:55 -0600 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 07:53:55 -0600 (CST) From: Andrew McNabb X-Sender: amcnabb@ranger To: ost cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] printer problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I had this problem until recently. Your problem is probably that you have LPRng, which has a problem with netatalk. Read the article about LPRng from about a week ago. ------------------------------- Andrew McNabb Argus Systems Group amcnabb@argus-systems.com ------------------------------- On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, ost wrote: > i want to plug in at this stage, though my printing problem is different > from goerge's. > ihave successfully connected a psotscript printer to linux-box > i can printout file sfrom linux. > then i started papd in order to also print from the macs. > i see the spooler in the chooser, but when i finally try to really print > , i just get a "postscript error". > is this a common problem with a common solution? > thnx. > oswald. > > > > X obj 391 380 trigger bang int; > > > From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Dec 5 12:10:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA08190; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 12:10:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA08186; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 12:10:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA12527; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 12:11:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA12521 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 12:11:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from silverserver.co.at (router.silverserver.co.at [194.152.178.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA12352 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 12:10:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ost@localhost) by silverserver.co.at (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA17004; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 18:10:03 +0100 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 18:10:03 +0100 (CET) From: ost X-Sender: ost@silverserver.co.at To: Andrew McNabb cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] printer problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu je, i ve got LPRng was the article posted on the list? or where'd i find it? thnx. ::I had this problem until recently. Your problem is probably that you ::have LPRng, which has a problem with netatalk. Read the article about ::LPRng from about a week ago. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Dec 5 17:58:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA18253; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 17:58:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA18249; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 17:58:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA02985; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 17:58:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA02973 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 17:58:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from argonaut.w3-design.com (argonaut.w3-design.com [209.85.7.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA02951 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 17:58:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from w3-design.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04133; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 14:57:48 -0800 Message-ID: <348886EC.5ED6A7FA@w3-design.com> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 14:57:48 -0800 From: Jeff Wiegley Organization: W3-design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Philip S. Wachtel" CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] bad Apple filenames for Samba clients References: <3.0.1.32.19971204141511.00d30a90@dynamind-llc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Philip S. Wachtel wrote: > > Hello! > > I recently posted a question about how to make the use of samba and > netatalk cleaner by hiding (or veto-ing) the .Apple and Trash and other mac > stuff. I thank all those that answered. By upgrading Samba and using > veto, my problem was solved! > > Now, second question. Mac users tend to use all kinds of file naming > conventions that PCs don't read. Is there a way of preventing Macs from > saving a files with certain characters in the filenames? This would help a > great deal. > > Yet again, I thank you very much! > > Philip We solved this problem the easiest way we could think of: We are simply spanking any mac user that uses symbols and odd characters in file names. Seriously, I think there is some robust configurations for samba that will handle "bad" filenames a little better but we aren't familiar with samba enough to pursue that answer any further and it was just easier to tell the mac peoples to use a more standard naming convention. - Jeff From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Dec 5 18:18:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA19396; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 18:18:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA19390; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 18:18:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA22956; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 18:18:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA22954 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 18:18:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from compute.com (compute.compute.com [192.215.246.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id SAA22945 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 18:18:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from sociopath.compute.com ([206.16.224.92]) by compute.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24269; Fri, 5 Dec 97 15:17:36 PST Message-Id: <9712052317.AA24269@compute.com> Received: from [206.16.224.97] by sociopath.compute.com via smtpd (for compute.compute.com [192.215.246.2]) with SMTP; 5 Dec 1997 23:18:25 UT Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Charlie Winckless - Network Intensive" Organization: Network Intensive To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 16:15:39 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris x86 2.6 and Netatalk Reply-To: charlie@compute.com Cc: CHARLIE@compute.com X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I'm not on this list, so I apologise if this topic has come up before; I didn't see it in the archives or the FAQ, so I'm hoping not. I've a customer who is asking about running Netatalk on a Solaris x86 box, running 2.6. I've seen issues raised on some of the WWW articles I've looked at regarding the incompatability of Netatalk and this OS. Could anyone clear this up, and, if possible, reply directly to me since I'm not on the list (as mentioned above) Any help appreciated, -Charlie *------------------------------------------------------------------------* Charlie Winckless Internet Technical Consultant Network Intensive - A Member of the Verio Group http://www.ni.net http://www.verio.net Phone: (505) 872-2927 Fax: (505) 872-2967 "Rhubarb: A kind of celery gone bloodshot" From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Dec 5 18:30:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA20001; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 18:30:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA19983; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 18:30:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA10662; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 18:30:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA10660 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 18:30:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpo.whistle.com ([207.76.204.38]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA10649 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 18:30:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA09726; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 15:27:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from UNKNOWN(), claiming to be "current1.whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd009723; Fri Dec 5 15:27:47 1997 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 15:25:23 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: Jeff Wiegley cc: "Philip S. Wachtel" , netatalk-admins@umich.edu, Jeremy Allison Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] bad Apple filenames for Samba clients In-Reply-To: <348886EC.5ED6A7FA@w3-design.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu We have just added code to samba (and it has been given to the netatalk people) for code-page synchronisation between SAMBA and Netatalk. this is so that (for example) japaneses users can read each other's filenames and also for various european code-sets. teh '(c)' symbol and others like that are a bit harder to handle but it appears to me it might be handled in the same way.. What's the low-down Jeremy? Julian On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Jeff Wiegley wrote: > Philip S. Wachtel wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > I recently posted a question about how to make the use of samba and > > netatalk cleaner by hiding (or veto-ing) the .Apple and Trash and other mac > > stuff. I thank all those that answered. By upgrading Samba and using > > veto, my problem was solved! > > > > Now, second question. Mac users tend to use all kinds of file naming > > conventions that PCs don't read. Is there a way of preventing Macs from > > saving a files with certain characters in the filenames? This would help a > > great deal. > > > > Yet again, I thank you very much! > > > > Philip > > We solved this problem the easiest way we could think of: > > We are simply spanking any mac user that uses symbols and odd > characters in file names. > > Seriously, I think there is some robust configurations for samba that > will handle "bad" filenames a little better but we aren't familiar with > samba enough to pursue that answer any further and it was just easier > to tell the mac peoples to use a more standard naming convention. > > - Jeff > From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Dec 5 20:29:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA23471; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 20:29:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id UAA23467; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 20:29:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA06301; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 20:29:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA06296 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 20:29:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from toby.han.de (quirk.hiss.org [192.109.225.43]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA06286 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 20:29:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from baghira.han.de (baghira.han.de [192.109.225.2]) by toby.han.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP for id ; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 02:29:33 +0100 (MEZ) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baghira.han.de (8.8.7-s-4/26-11-97/13:42:37/tina) with UUCP for netatalk-admins@umich.edu id ; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 02:20:35 +0100 Received: (from micha@localhost) by dolbyco.han.de (8.8.4/8.7.3) id DAA20105 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 03:16:42 +0100 From: Michael Zuelsdorff Message-Id: <199712060216.DAA20105@dolbyco.han.de> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Creating files w/ Simple Text fails To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 03:16:41 +0100 (MET) Content-Type: text Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, sounds strange, but I cannot create new files with Simple Text on a netatalk server volume. Adding changes to already existing files works. I didn't go that deep into it but there other applications like BBedit which work without problems. I'm using Linux 2.0.32 with loadable appletalk module, and netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a18. I and get the same result with MacOS 7.5.1 (normal Appletalk) and MacOS 7.6.1 (AppleShare/IP). No error messages at all. _~_ (?) (o o)' -- V -^ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . N . (!) Michael Zuelsdorff \ i / I don't like LINUX - ' ^ ^ Gruene Riede 5 '. \u/ .' I love it (o o) 31311 Dollbergen '>X<' / v \ +49 517-792-2113 --- " L " --------------------------------//8'8\\------ micha@dolbyco.han.de -- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Dec 5 21:58:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA24913; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 21:58:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA24908; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 21:58:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id VAA09229; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 21:59:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id VAA09225 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 21:59:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from websales.com (www.websales.com [192.153.125.97]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA09221 for ; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 21:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.153.125.162] by websales.com (post.office MTA v2.0 0906 ID# 0-33279U60) with SMTP id AAA23587; Fri, 5 Dec 1997 18:58:47 -0800 Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] spam Date: Fri, 5 Dec 97 18:58:17 -0800 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: cgriffin@websales.com (Chris Griffin) To: "Carl Baltrunas" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <19971206025846.AAA23587@[192.153.125.162]> Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > >> From: John Barry -Technician >> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 97 13:38:21 GMT >> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu >> Subject: [netatalk-admins] spam >> >> Hi, >> I've just mailed the dickhead who spammed the list about 10 copies of the >> offending mail, might I suggest others do the same. >> meanwhile I shall track down the ISP and complain formerly to them :) > >*BAD* *IDEA* >Doing that simply re-inforces the idea that it works. It also gives >the spammer an "accurate" address on you, to add to their list. snip YES!! There are a lot of spammers that use other systems and bogus return address. I was hit recently with a ton of bad address replys because someone had spammed with my domain as the return address. It can take some good investigation to find the real sender. >"DOS Computers manufactured by companies such as IBM, Compaq, Tandy, and >millions of others are by far the most popular, with about 70 million >machines >in use worldwide. Macintosh fans, on the other hand, may note that >cockroaches >are far more numerous than humans, and that numbers alone do not denote a >higher life form." > -New York Times, November 26, 1991 > The software package said "For use with Window 95 or better." So I bought a Macintosh! --------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Griffin Web Site Design & Hosting WebSales http://www.websales.com --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Dec 6 04:56:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id EAA25973; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 04:56:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id EAA25969; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 04:56:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA05535; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 04:56:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id EAA05533 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 04:56:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from fly.cnuce.cnr.it (foda-devel.cnuce.cnr.it [131.114.192.86]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id EAA05529 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 04:56:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by fly.cnuce.cnr.it (Smail3.1.26.7 #3) id m0xeH1R-0004WyC; Sat, 6 Dec 97 10:59 MET Message-Id: Date: Sat, 6 Dec 97 10:59 MET From: Francesco Potorti` To: Netatalk admins Subject: [netatalk-admins] [repost] can't use guest host Organization: CNUCE-CNR, Via S.Maria 36, Pisa - Italy +39-50-593211 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I posted this question some days ago, but I saw no answer, so I'll post it again. I installed netatalk in a Debian system, and everything seems to be well, but I cannot use the guest account, i.e., the guest radio button on the Mac remains grayed, so I cannot mount a volume as guest. Do anybody of you manage to export a volume to be mounted as guest? I just added the volume to AppleVolume.default, which makes it visible to normal users, but not to guest. I also browsed through the saved archive of the last year of this list, but found nothing. Thanks for reading -- Francesco Potorti` (researcher) Voice: +39-50-593203 Computer Network Division Operator: +39-50-593211 CNUCE-CNR, Via Santa Maria 36 Fax: +39-50-904052 56126 Pisa - Italy Email: F.Potorti@cnuce.cnr.it From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Dec 6 06:34:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA27304; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 06:34:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA27300; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 06:34:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id GAA00285; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 06:34:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id GAA00283 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 06:34:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from sparta.scl.co.uk (sparta.scl.co.uk [163.164.160.4]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA00279 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 06:34:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from [163.164.164.52] (lydia.scl.co.uk [163.164.164.52]) by sparta.scl.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA08254 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 11:33:36 GMT X-Sender: john@mail.scl.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 11:33:14 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: john@scl.co.uk (John Sutton) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] [repost] can't use guest host Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Have you checked the options on afpd? See man afpd. There is an option to enable/disable guest logins and to set the uid of guest if enabled. >Hi, > >I posted this question some days ago, but I saw no answer, so I'll >post it again. > >I installed netatalk in a Debian system, and everything seems to be >well, but I cannot use the guest account, i.e., the guest radio button >on the Mac remains grayed, so I cannot mount a volume as guest. > >Do anybody of you manage to export a volume to be mounted as guest? > >I just added the volume to AppleVolume.default, which makes it visible >to normal users, but not to guest. I also browsed through the saved >archive of the last year of this list, but found nothing. > >Thanks for reading > >-- >Francesco Potorti` (researcher) Voice: +39-50-593203 >Computer Network Division Operator: +39-50-593211 >CNUCE-CNR, Via Santa Maria 36 Fax: +39-50-904052 >56126 Pisa - Italy Email: F.Potorti@cnuce.cnr.it *********************** John Sutton SCL Computer Services http://www.scl.co.uk Tel +44 (0) 1239 621021 *********************** From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Dec 6 13:32:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA04102; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 13:32:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA04098; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 13:32:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA16538; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 13:32:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA16531 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 13:32:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from ocee.groupsys.com (ocee.groupsys.com [155.229.202.35]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA16527 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 13:32:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from ocee.groupsys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ocee.groupsys.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA06868; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 13:31:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199712061831.NAA06868@ocee.groupsys.com> To: Francesco Potorti` cc: Netatalk admins Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] [repost] can't use guest host In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Dec 1997 10:59:00 +0700." Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 13:31:48 -0500 From: William LeFebvre Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu You wrote: > Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 10:59:00 +0700 > From: Francesco Potorti` > To: Netatalk admins > Subject: [netatalk-admins] [repost] can't use guest host > Do anybody of you manage to export a volume to be mounted as guest? > > I just added the volume to AppleVolume.default, which makes it visible > to normal users, but not to guest. I also browsed through the saved > archive of the last year of this list, but found nothing. I put an entry in AppleVolume.system for a volume, and it allows guest access. Did you try that? William LeFebvre Group sys Consulting +1 770 813 3224 From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Dec 6 13:42:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA04433; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 13:42:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA04412; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 13:42:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA17637; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 13:42:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA17634 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 13:42:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from ocee.groupsys.com (ocee.groupsys.com [155.229.202.35]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA17630 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 13:42:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from ocee.groupsys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ocee.groupsys.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA06908; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 13:42:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199712061842.NAA06908@ocee.groupsys.com> To: Jeff Wiegley cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] bad Apple filenames for Samba clients In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Dec 1997 14:57:48 PST." <348886EC.5ED6A7FA@w3-design.com> X-no-archive: yes Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 13:42:18 -0500 From: William LeFebvre Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Jeff wrote: > We solved this problem the easiest way we could think of: > > We are simply spanking any mac user that uses symbols and odd > characters in file names. Ooh! I want to be a user on YOUR network. :-) What do you do for second and third infractions? William LeFebvre Group sys Consulting +1 770 813 3224 From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Dec 6 16:32:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA08969; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 16:32:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA08865; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 16:32:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA15121; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 16:33:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA15098 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 16:33:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.advancenet.net (hermes.cu-online.com [205.198.248.82]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA15094 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 16:33:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from argus-systems.com (ranger.argus-systems.com [206.221.232.80]) by mail.advancenet.net (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA10156 for ; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 16:34:23 -0600 Received: by argus-systems.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA07531; Sat, 6 Dec 1997 15:34:31 -0600 Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 15:33:55 -0600 (CST) From: Andrew McNabb X-Sender: amcnabb@ranger To: linux-atalk@netspace.org Subject: [netatalk-admins] macos on startup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I know similar issues have been discussed previously, but I have a problem that shows up sometimes. Every few times the computer is booted, I have a system error during the extensions loading (right where appleshare would be). The error says that there has been an AppleShare error number 10. It gives me a restart button. After I press it, the machine reboots without any problems. Does anyone know what the problems is? I have MacOS 8 on the client. My server is running Linux with 1.4b2 + asun patch. ------------------------------- Andrew McNabb Argus Systems Group amcnabb@argus-systems.com ------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Dec 7 08:30:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA15011; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 08:30:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA15007; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 08:30:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA14853; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 08:31:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA14851 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 08:31:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from einstein.leyada.jlm.k12.il (einstein.leyada.jlm.k12.il [192.115.119.4]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA14816 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 08:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from leyada.jlm.k12.il (freud.leyada.jlm.k12.il [192.115.119.3]) by einstein.leyada.jlm.k12.il (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA02478 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 15:27:43 +0200 Received: from MIN4100/SpoolDir by leyada.jlm.k12.il (Mercury 1.31); 7 Dec 97 15:31:19 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by MIN4100 (Mercury 1.31); 7 Dec 97 15:31:17 +0200 From: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" X-Real-Sender: Olga.Leyada To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 15:31:13 +0200 Subject: [netatalk-admins] Latest version. Reply-to: yannaigo@leyada.jlm.k12.il X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.41 (NDS, preview) Message-ID: <7E2887572@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu What is the latest version of netatalk, and of ntimelord? Regards, Yannai. From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Dec 7 13:35:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA18953; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 13:35:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA18948; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 13:35:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id NAA19456; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 13:36:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id NAA19454 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 13:36:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from keymaster.compu-aid.com (keymaster.compu-aid.com [208.214.200.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA19449 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 13:36:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (scott@localhost) by keymaster.compu-aid.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA28072 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 13:35:45 -0500 Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 13:35:45 -0500 (EST) From: Scott Venier To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk+uar Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I was wondering if anyone has an experience in making netatalk work along with the Unix Appletalk Router. UAR is by the same people who write CAP. I saw some info in the archives about moving from CAP to netatalk, but I didn't see anything about working along with UAR. The reason that I want to use UAR is so I can set up an appletalk- incapsulated-in-ip tunnel between two seperate networks. Thanks. Scott ======================================================================= Scott Venier *Consultant for Ingematics, scott@compu-aid.com A division of Compu-Aid, Inc. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Dec 7 19:19:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA25184; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:19:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA25180; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:19:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA04962; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:19:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA04959 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:19:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA04939 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:19:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA27380 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 00:19:31 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 00:19:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] bad Apple filenames for Samba clients In-Reply-To: <199712061842.NAA06908@ocee.groupsys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sat, 6 Dec 1997, William LeFebvre wrote: > Jeff wrote: > > We solved this problem the easiest way we could think of: > > > > We are simply spanking any mac user that uses symbols and odd > > characters in file names. > > Ooh! I want to be a user on YOUR network. :-) > What do you do for second and third infractions? Where used I work, it would be rubber hoses and mediaeval torture respectively. I live up to my job title... -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Dec 7 19:31:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA25740; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:31:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA25736; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:31:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id TAA23579; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id TAA23575 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk [194.217.6.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA23569 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:32:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ali@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA27409; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 00:28:38 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 00:28:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Alistair Riddell X-Sender: ali@frank.watsons.edin.sch.uk To: "Yannai A. Gonczarowski" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Latest version. In-Reply-To: <7E2887572@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu The latest 'offical' version is 1.4b2. However Adrian Sun has been working on a number of improvements independently of UMich including support for AppleShare over IP. His version is available from ftp.u.washington.edu/pub/user-supported/asun On Sun, 7 Dec 1997, Yannai A. Gonczarowski wrote: > What is the latest version of netatalk, and of ntimelord? > > Regards, > Yannai. > -- Alistair Riddell - BOFH IT Support Department, George Watson's College, Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 447 7931 Ext 176 Fax: +44 131 452 8594 From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Dec 7 19:57:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA26796; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:57:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA26792; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:57:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA11913; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:57:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA11906 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:57:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from zifi.genetics.utah.edu (zifi.genetics.utah.edu [155.100.229.31]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA11899 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 19:57:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from zinc@localhost) by zifi.genetics.utah.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7/pjf) id RAA00279; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 17:57:34 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 17:57:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199712080057.RAA00279@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> From: patrick finerty To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] how to identify a machine by its number? X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Organization: planet of the monkey boys X-Face: &dh1aHu*v\s24A9~2qU[ln~;(Cz#X]d2r-@X>#j9U@vx!v8%IYU''n-H1D)}U(-0Te~ LD|Cyg6Gh-aFN{B*VSKhs}en{nXo3xkveE#BxR9 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA27500; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 20:20:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id UAA27493; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 20:20:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA14397; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 20:20:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA14394 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 20:20:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpo.whistle.com ([207.76.204.38]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA14387 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 20:20:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA27642; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 17:18:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from UNKNOWN(), claiming to be "current1.whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd027640; Sun Dec 7 17:18:19 1997 Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 17:15:52 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: patrick finerty cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] how to identify a machine by its number? In-Reply-To: <199712080057.RAA00279@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On FreeBSD you could just do: netstat -f atalk and it would show all the appletalk sessions open if you are on a system less seamlessly integrated (that's about all of them) then there is often a special utilty that is similar. On Sun, 7 Dec 1997, patrick finerty wrote: > hi, > > i posted this once and received no replies. there must be a way to > associate the number with a machine name. how do i do it? > > > ----------------- > someone i don't know has been repeatedly trying to access my machine > via netatalk. i don't appreciate this sort of behavior since i've > found it usually doesn't stop by itself. > > how i can figure out what zone and the mac they are using? > > here's what i see in my log file: > > Dec 4 16:09:06 zifi afpd[570]: session from 20092.227:243 on 58624.155:129 > Dec 4 16:09:06 zifi afpd[570]: login noauth > Dec 4 16:09:15 zifi afpd[570]: done > Dec 4 16:09:15 zifi afpd[100]: server_child[0] 570 done well, there it is.. 20092.227 try: nbplkup |grep 20092.227 then use hammer on machine owner > > thanks, > > -patrick finerty > From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Dec 7 20:22:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA27551; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 20:22:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id UAA27542; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 20:21:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id UAA03291; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 20:22:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id UAA03289 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 20:22:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from zifi.genetics.utah.edu (zifi.genetics.utah.edu [155.100.229.31]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA03285 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 20:22:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from zinc@localhost) by zifi.genetics.utah.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7/pjf) id SAA00468; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 18:21:52 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 18:21:52 -0700 Message-Id: <199712080121.SAA00468@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> From: patrick finerty To: plambert@nas.nasa.gov (Paul M. Lambert) CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] how to identify a machine by its number? In-Reply-To: <199712080102.RAA06922@sally.nas.nasa.gov> References: <199712080057.RAA00279@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> <199712080102.RAA06922@sally.nas.nasa.gov> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Organization: planet of the monkey boys X-Face: &dh1aHu*v\s24A9~2qU[ln~;(Cz#X]d2r-@X>#j9U@vx!v8%IYU''n-H1D)}U(-0Te~ LD|Cyg6Gh-aFN{B*VSKhs}en{nXo3xkveE#BxR9 nbplkup " b's X" b's X:AFPServer 58624.87:250 b's X:PPCToolBox 58624.87:251 b's X:Macintosh II 58624.87:253 b's X:Workstation 58624.87:4 but this gives no response (putting it in quotes doesn't help): zinc-> nbplkup 58624.87:250 what am i doing wrong? > nbplkup should be able to tell you who 20092.227:243 is. > > check the man page for it. > > --Paul L. > -- "There is only one aim in life and that is to live it." Karl Shapiro,(1959) from an essay on Henry Miller's Tropic of Cancer finger zinc-pgp@zifi.genetics.utah.edu for PGP key http://zifi.genetics.utah.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Dec 7 22:20:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id WAA00780; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 22:20:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id WAA00776; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 22:20:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA13701; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 22:20:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA13693 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 22:20:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from zifi.genetics.utah.edu (zifi.genetics.utah.edu [155.100.229.31]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA13681 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 22:20:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from zinc@localhost) by zifi.genetics.utah.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7/pjf) id UAA01054; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 20:20:31 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 20:20:31 -0700 Message-Id: <199712080320.UAA01054@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> From: patrick finerty To: Ashok Aiyar Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] how to identify a machine by its number? In-Reply-To: References: <199712080057.RAA00279@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Organization: planet of the monkey boys X-Face: &dh1aHu*v\s24A9~2qU[ln~;(Cz#X]d2r-@X>#j9U@vx!v8%IYU''n-H1D)}U(-0Te~ LD|Cyg6Gh-aFN{B*VSKhs}en{nXo3xkveE#BxR9 On Sun, 7 Dec 1997, patrick finerty wrote: > > > i posted this once and received no replies. there must be a way to > > associate the number with a machine name. how do i do it? > > There is no "fail-safe" method of identifying the machine. You > can use nbplkup, and if the offending machine is still online, > *and* has the same ethertalk-id, you will have achieved your goal. > > Ethertalk-IDs are not constant from session to session, it is possible > you will identify the wrong machine. -- "There is only one aim in life and that is to live it." Karl Shapiro,(1959) from an essay on Henry Miller's Tropic of Cancer finger zinc-pgp@zifi.genetics.utah.edu for PGP key http://zifi.genetics.utah.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 8 09:19:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA04423; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 09:19:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.144.15]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA04184; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 09:18:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.3) with ESMTP id AAA11558 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 00:41:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA10744; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 00:39:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA10741 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 00:39:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (colossus.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.202]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id AAA10735 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 00:39:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jon@localhost) by colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA23836; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 07:42:40 +0200 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 07:42:40 +0200 (SAT) From: John Ostrowick To: patrick finerty cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] how to identify a machine by its number? In-Reply-To: <199712080057.RAA00279@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu go to the mac itself and option click the mactcp ethernet icon in the control panel to get the ethernet address. ________________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick jon@cs.wits.ac.za Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand 1 Jan Smuts Ave, Johannesburg, South Africa. Senate House 1012 Phone: +27 11 716-3783 Fax: +27 11 339-3513 My web page: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/more/jon/aboutme.html My ftp site: ftp://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za My listserv: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/listservs.html On Sun, 7 Dec 1997, patrick finerty wrote: > hi, > > i posted this once and received no replies. there must be a way to > associate the number with a machine name. how do i do it? > > > ----------------- > someone i don't know has been repeatedly trying to access my machine > via netatalk. i don't appreciate this sort of behavior since i've > found it usually doesn't stop by itself. > > how i can figure out what zone and the mac they are using? > > here's what i see in my log file: > > Dec 4 16:09:06 zifi afpd[570]: session from 20092.227:243 on 58624.155:129 > Dec 4 16:09:06 zifi afpd[570]: login noauth > Dec 4 16:09:15 zifi afpd[570]: done > Dec 4 16:09:15 zifi afpd[100]: server_child[0] 570 done > > thanks, > > -patrick finerty > From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 8 12:10:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA10414; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:10:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA10407; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:10:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA19006; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:10:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA18977 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:10:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from voyager.dynamind-llc.com (voyager.dynamind-llc.com [206.153.113.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id MAA18961 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:10:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from dyna-ntserver by voyager.dynamind-llc.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA07247; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:10:35 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971208121015.00de5db0@dynamind-llc.com> X-Sender: philip@dynamind-llc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 12:10:15 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: "Philip S. Wachtel" Subject: [netatalk-admins] user and groups names Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello! Does anyone know how to configure atalk so that users can write and read files in their home directories as their own user names and read and write to shared directories as nobody? Thanks much! Philip From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 8 12:20:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA11262; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:20:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA11258; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:20:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA06270; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:20:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA06248 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:20:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from goddess.coe.missouri.edu (goddess.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.71]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA06236 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:20:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from [128.206.158.52] (baroque.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.52]) by goddess.coe.missouri.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA06987; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 11:20:21 -0600 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 11:20:21 -0600 From: Mark Donnelly Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] how to identify a machine by its number? To: patrick finerty , "Paul M. Lambert" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <199712080121.SAA00468@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> Message-ID: X-Authenticated: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >but this gives no response (putting it in quotes doesn't help): > >zinc-> nbplkup 58624.87:250 why don't you try: zinc-> nbplkup | grep 58624.87:250 --Mark "I think so Brain, but if they called them sad meals, then no one would buy them." From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 8 12:39:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA12553; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:39:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA12545; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:39:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA00828; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:39:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA00808 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:39:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from goddess.coe.missouri.edu (goddess.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.71]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA00787 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:39:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from [128.206.158.52] (baroque.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.52]) by goddess.coe.missouri.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA07117; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 11:38:58 -0600 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 11:38:58 -0600 From: Mark Donnelly Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] how to identify a machine by its number? To: patrick finerty , "Paul M. Lambert" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Authenticated: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 08 Dec 1997 11:20:21 -0600 mark@coe.missouri.edu (Mark Donnelly) wrote: >>but this gives no response (putting it in quotes doesn't help): >> >>zinc-> nbplkup 58624.87:250 > >why don't you try: > >zinc-> nbplkup | grep 58624.87:250 > oops, that should be zinc-> nbplkup | grep 58624.87 Also, I'll re-iterate the warning given before. The network numbers of Macintoshes are subject to change. As I've heard, on startup, it tries a (cached) number to see if it's in use, then uses it if it isn't, or tries another number if it is, and so on... So, if people haven't been adding more machines to your network, this will likely give you the right result, but possibly not. I'd suggest asking before you take somebody else's suggestion and paddle the offender. Good Luck! --Mark "I think so Brain, but if they called them sad meals, then no one would buy them." From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 8 14:19:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA17972; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:19:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA17967; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:19:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA25676; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:19:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA25200 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:18:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from what.snew.com (what.snew.com [206.136.64.13]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA25097 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:18:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from chuck@localhost) by what.snew.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20358; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:18:11 -0500 (EST) From: chuck yerkes Message-Id: <199712081918.OAA20358@what.snew.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] user and groups names To: philip@voyager.dynamind-llc.com (Philip S. Wachtel) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:18:10 -0500 (EST) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971208121015.00de5db0@dynamind-llc.com> from "Philip S. Wachtel" at Dec 8, 97 12:10:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu It is claimed, but unverified, that Philip S. Wachtel wrote: > Does anyone know how to configure atalk so that users can write and read > files in their home directories as their own user names and read and write > to shared directories as nobody? I think you're asking the wrong question. 1st) nobody really shouldn't be allowed to write anywhere (maybe /tmp). This is the user used for things that you want NO priviledge for - like web servers, etc. Having files around that "nobody" can overwrite is just a bad plan. Think of another user, like "mac". 2nd) You likely really want to setup group permissions. I wish people would mention their OS, but I'll try: -Set up the writers in a specific group (not necessarily their primary group). -Set a shared directory up with group write privs (and setgid so the gid of the new files in it are that group). You MIGHT want to run a cron job that does chmod g+w to that directory (or use cfengine from cron to watch it). chuck From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 8 14:24:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA18277; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:24:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA18271; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:24:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA12378; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:25:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA12244 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:25:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from what.snew.com (what.snew.com [206.136.64.13]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA12215 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:25:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from chuck@localhost) by what.snew.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20429; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:24:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199712081924.OAA20429@what.snew.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Latest version. To: alistair@watsons.edin.sch.uk (Alistair Riddell) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:24:10 -0500 (EST) Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: from "Alistair Riddell" at Dec 8, 97 00:28:38 am From: chuck+atalk@Yerkes.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Isn't it time to either go to 1.4 or 1.4b3 and incorporate some of these changes for IP Appletalk? If the current distributed code is stable, let's UN-beta it - it's been tested for about a year - longer than most versions of IE or Netscape are out at all (beta + release). Then, let's add the ASUN patches and call it 1.5beta1. All in favor? (by the way, what's the mac client of timelord - I've been using an odd NTP mac client that I'd like to lose). chuck It is claimed, but unverified, that Alistair Riddell wrote: > > The latest 'offical' version is 1.4b2. > However Adrian Sun has been working on a number of improvements > independently of UMich including support for AppleShare over IP. > His version is available from > ftp.u.washington.edu/pub/user-supported/asun > > On Sun, 7 Dec 1997, Yannai A. Gonczarowski wrote: > > > What is the latest version of netatalk, and of ntimelord? From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 8 14:56:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA20380; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:56:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA20376; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:56:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA25295; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:56:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA25221 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:56:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA25185 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 14:56:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18062 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 11:50:12 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA02076; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 11:55:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 11:55:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712081955.LAA02076@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] pre-a18-3 available Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu this version does the exciting thing of using mmap on an afp_copyfile if the filesize is above a threshold value. let me know if you see improvements in server-side copies. in other news, i haven't figured out the simpletext problem totally, but i do have a transcript that i just need to decipher. i'm pretty sure that afpd is returning file parameter settings that simpletext doesn't like. simpletext then deletes the file with nary a message. bleah. as always, my patches are in ftp.u.washington.edu:/public/asun -a From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 8 15:29:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA21909; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:29:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA21905; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:29:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA23501; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:29:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA23491 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:29:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from bock.freinet.de (bock.freinet.de [193.141.226.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id PAA23457 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:29:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from prometheus (helge@id-online.freinet.de [193.141.226.117]) by bock.freinet.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA07374 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 21:29:00 +0100 Message-ID: <348C0BFB.53C2E861@id-online.freinet.de> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 16:05:00 +0100 From: Helge Münnich Organization: ID-Online X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Unix-rights for afpd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu hi, Is it a bug that the Network Trash Folder is created with 707 (instead of 777 or 770)? Are there some rules for the ownership/rights of .AppleDouble folder so that afpd can deal with it? We are using netatalk 1.4b2 (with macos8-patch) on a LinuxBox(2.0.30). -- hm@id-online.freinet.de Helge Münnich Tel.: +49 761 290035 Schauinslandstr. 26c Fax : +49 761 290034 D-79100 Freiburg From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 8 15:48:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA22842; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:48:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA22834; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:48:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA00915; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:48:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA00783 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:47:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA29900 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:45:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id MAA85706; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:46:40 -0800 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:46:39 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: patrick finerty cc: "Paul M. Lambert" , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] how to identify a machine by its number? In-Reply-To: <199712080121.SAA00468@zifi.genetics.utah.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Sun, 7 Dec 1997, patrick finerty wrote: > hi, > > i've checked the man pages inside and out. nbplkup won't even tell me > the name of a computer next to me when i use a number to specify it. > i'm sure my syntax is wrong but i can't figure out the correct syntax. Of course not. nbplkup sends out a message in terms of the text strings, namely the name, type, and zone of an entity. Network number is not one of the querry parameters. What you really need is to either do a general nbplkup and grep for the answer, or look at the aarp tables (I'm not sure of a utility to do this, but the latter'd give you a hard ethernet address for the offender). Good luck! Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 8 15:51:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA23093; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:51:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id PAA23082; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:51:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id PAA23006; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:49:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id PAA22971; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:49:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199712082049.PAA22971@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: a sun cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] pre-a18-3 available In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Dec 1997 11:55:35 PST." <199712081955.LAA02076@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 15:49:38 -0500 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: a sun > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > i'm pretty > sure that afpd is returning file parameter settings that simpletext > doesn't like. simpletext then deletes the file with nary a > message. Actually, the problem is probably that simpletext opens the file, attempts to delete the file, which should fail, since the file is open. However, on some systems, the delete will actually succeed. There's code in the delete area that tries to set locks, but not all Unix systems uniformly implement locks, so... :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 8 16:08:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA24617; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:08:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA24610; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:08:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA00393; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:08:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA00269 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:08:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from umunhum.cagent.com (umunhum-e.cagent.com [209.19.76.3]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA29723 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:07:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from cypher.cagent.com (cypher [209.19.76.216]) by umunhum.cagent.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA19331 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:07:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 13:07:31 -0800 From: Tom Watson Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] how to identify a machine by its number? To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu X-Mailer: LeeMail 2.1 Message-Id: Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Many people have discussed methods for finding out how to find a particular user, given an AppleTalk address (zone/node). If you go back a ways, there is a tool that Apple provided called "InterPoll" which can tall anyone who has a Mac connected to the network the things that respond to NBP. The version I've used (version 1.0.1, dated in 1989) works quite well with OS version 7.6.1, using open transport (I assume it would work in Mac OS 8). I don't know how available it is publically, but it was a fairly common tool used back in those days. Before version 7 of MacOS, you needed 'responder' to publish the name of the Mac (now displayed in Sharing Setup). I'd provide a copy, it isn't that large, but I'm unsure of the copying restrictions, or how this list would accept a binary posting. The program itself isn't that big (130k). ---- Tom Watson Generic short signature tsw@cagent.com (home: tsw@johana.com) From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 8 16:09:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA24677; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:09:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA24671; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:09:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA27350; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:10:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA27279 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:09:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA27203; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:09:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18670; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:03:16 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA02299; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:08:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:08:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712082108.NAA02299@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: wesley.craig@umich.edu CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199712082049.PAA22971@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> (wesley.craig@umich.edu) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] pre-a18-3 available Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Actually, the problem is probably that simpletext opens the file, attempts to delete the file, which should fail, since the file is open. However, on some systems, the delete will actually succeed. There's code in the delete area that tries to set locks, but not all Unix systems uniformly implement locks, so... umm, setting locks will only work if the program has opened the file with the appropriate permissions. i just went over the spec, and the proper thing to do is to search the ofork list and make sure delete operations don't work for anything on that list due to unix' complete willingness to delete open files. i'll add a patch for that. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 8 16:23:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA26012; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:23:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA25960; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:22:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA06012; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:22:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA05940 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:22:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA04930 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:20:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18763; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:14:33 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA02335; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:19:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:19:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712082119.NAA02335@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: tsw@cagent.com CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from Tom Watson on Mon, 08 Dec 1997 13:07:31 -0800) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] how to identify a machine by its number? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu right now apple has a spiffy utility called netscan that actually runs around and creates a database of your appletalk network. i haven't fiddled with it that much as it seems to want a zoned appletalk network, but it might prove useful to those who want to keep track of the various appletalked machines on their network. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 8 16:31:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA26661; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:31:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA26654; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:31:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA19673; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:31:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA19580 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:31:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomcat.ca.metsci.com (tomcat.ca.metsci.com [199.106.147.201]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA19453 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:31:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (solmssen@localhost) by tomcat.ca.metsci.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA08791; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:26:43 -0800 Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:26:42 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Solmssen To: Netatalk List , Tom Watson Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] how to identify a machine by its number? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm fairly certain that this is copyrighted and not publicly distributable. However, there is a shareware piece on InfoMac called Trawl that does much the same thing, and is distributable. ---- Andrew On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Tom Watson wrote: > Many people have discussed methods for finding out how to find a particular > user, given an AppleTalk address (zone/node). If you go back a ways, there is > a tool that Apple provided called "InterPoll" which can tall anyone who has a > Mac connected to the network the things that respond to NBP. The version I've > used (version 1.0.1, dated in 1989) works quite well with OS version 7.6.1, > using open transport (I assume it would work in Mac OS 8). > > I don't know how available it is publically, but it was a fairly common tool > used back in those days. Before version 7 of MacOS, you needed 'responder' to > publish the name of the Mac (now displayed in Sharing Setup). > > I'd provide a copy, it isn't that large, but I'm unsure of the copying > restrictions, or how this list would accept a binary posting. The program > itself isn't that big (130k). > ---- > Tom Watson Generic short signature > tsw@cagent.com (home: tsw@johana.com) > From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 8 16:48:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA27920; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:48:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA27904; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:48:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA13163; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:48:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA13002 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:48:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA12638 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:47:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA19033 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:41:23 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA02411; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:46:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:46:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712082146.NAA02411@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] following on that... Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu well, i've just created a pre-a18-4.tar.gz which has the afp_delete fix. simpletext should now be happy. let me know if there are any problems. if not, i'll make patches against 1.4b2 et al. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 8 16:51:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA28244; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:51:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA28239; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:51:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA27776; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:51:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA27534 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:50:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from argonaut.w3-design.com (argonaut.w3-design.com [209.85.7.7]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA27460 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 16:50:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from w3-design.com (jeff@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by argonaut.w3-design.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA02455 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:50:08 -0800 Message-ID: <348C6B8F.5F2075E4@w3-design.com> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 21:50:07 +0000 From: Jeff Wiegley Organization: W3-design, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] user and groups names References: <199712081918.OAA20358@what.snew.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu chuck yerkes wrote: > > It is claimed, but unverified, that Philip S. Wachtel wrote: > > Does anyone know how to configure atalk so that users can write and read > > files in their home directories as their own user names and read and write > > to shared directories as nobody? > > I think you're asking the wrong question. > > 1st) nobody really shouldn't be allowed to write anywhere > (maybe /tmp). This is the user used for things that > you want NO priviledge for - like web servers, etc. > Having files around that "nobody" can overwrite is > just a bad plan. Think of another user, like "mac". > > 2nd) You likely really want to setup group permissions. I wish > people would mention their OS, but I'll try: > -Set up the writers in a specific group (not necessarily > their primary group). > -Set a shared directory up with group write privs (and > setgid so the gid of the new files in it are that group). > You MIGHT want to run a cron job that does chmod g+w to > that directory (or use cfengine from cron to watch it). > > chuck For those that might be new like the original poster this is the way my company sovled permissions: (assuming Linux OS although it should apply to any Un*x in general)... 1) Every potential user gets a shell account on the Unix server. 2) for each account the user gets a unique user id and a unique group is (both of which I name identically). 3) the for the network shared directories I create more group ids, one for every group I want. The shared directory's group id are set according to the access I desire. and the mode for the directories are set to 2770 this way file and subdirectories are created and inherit the group id and write permission of the parent directory. 4) then users are added to the subgroups that they should be in. 5) I modified netatalk so that subdirectories created by netatalk inherit the parents permissions (a behavior that is not the default in netatalk but should be) so, basically contrary to the original poster's paradigm but similar to Chuck's our permissions are based on groups not users. the reason each user has their own unique group that nobody else belongs to is to more or less protect people from screwing up their umasks and allowing all members of group users (the traditional unix user group) to read/write their directories. Anyways, it is working wonderfully for us. - Jeff From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 8 17:34:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA01142; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 17:34:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA01138; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 17:33:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA00358; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 17:34:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA00330 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 17:34:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from kaizen.gel.com ([198.233.29.237] (may be forged)) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA00217 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 17:34:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from gel.com ([198.233.29.14]) by kaizen.gel.com (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with ESMTP id AAA3501 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 17:32:06 -0400 Message-ID: <348C75AE.3CF02B0@gel.com> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 17:33:59 -0500 From: alan@kaizen.gel.com (Alan Johnson) Reply-To: alan.johnson@gel.com Organization: General Engineering Labs X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Net-Atalk mailing list Subject: [netatalk-admins] Looking for the STREAMS module for net-atalk Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------C8FFBC12E61C9BFF9DEB25B5" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C8FFBC12E61C9BFF9DEB25B5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm having a devil of a time trying to make Adrian's patches work on Solaris. Two questions: 1) He suggests trying the beta STREAMS module. Will this help? 2) If so, where do I find said beast? TIA, Alan --------------C8FFBC12E61C9BFF9DEB25B5 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Alan Johnson Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Alan Johnson n: Johnson;Alan org: General Engineering Labs adr;dom: ;;2040 Savage Road;Charleston;SC;29414; email;internet: alan.johnson@gel.com title: IS Director tel;work: (803) 556-8171 tel;fax: (803) 766-1178 x-mozilla-cpt: raj.gel.com;2 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------C8FFBC12E61C9BFF9DEB25B5-- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 9 00:06:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id AAA15823; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 00:06:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id AAA15786; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 00:06:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA08470; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 00:06:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA08463 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 00:06:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from c204500-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com (c204500-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com [24.1.67.221]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id AAA08401 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 00:06:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.103] ([192.168.1.103]) by c204500-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA12357; Mon, 8 Dec 1997 21:05:47 -0800 Message-Id: <199712090505.VAA12357@c204500-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] how to identify a machine by its number? Date: Mon, 8 Dec 97 21:05:57 -0800 x-sender: zarzycki@pop.ricochet.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Dave Zarzycki To: "a sun" , cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On 12/8/97 1:19 PM, a sun (asun@zoology.washington.edu) wrote: >right now apple has a spiffy utility called netscan that actually runs >around and creates a database of your appletalk network. i haven't >fiddled with it that much as it seems to want a zoned appletalk >network, but it might prove useful to those who want to keep track of >the various appletalked machines on their network. Netscan, unless it has changed since I last played with it, is a search engine and client for large AppleTalk networks with many machines which enable guest access to public files, etc. davez ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Zarzycki Student Intern San Jose State University Apple Computer, Inc. dzarzyck@email.sjsu.edu zarzycki@apple.com zarzycki@ricochet.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP Fingerprints (RSA): 8AF2 1040 8A9C D025 47BE 70DD A51C C887 DSS/Diffie-Hellman: CB9E 2621 B4BA 3F96 3516 B312 15B4 D842 3809 EF99 Contact pgpkeys.mit.edu for my public keys. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 9 00:08:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id AAA16376; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 00:08:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id AAA16307; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 00:08:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA08858; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 00:08:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA08856 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 00:08:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from fireball.ppl.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp (fireball.ppl.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp [133.1.27.11]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id AAA08828 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 00:08:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from monolith.ppl.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp (monolith.ppl.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp [133.1.246.115]) by fireball.ppl.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp (8.6.9+2.4Wb3/3.3W) with SMTP id OAA11363; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 14:04:22 +0900 Date: 9 Dec 97 14:07:33 +0900 Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] user and groups names From: "ISOBE, Michiro" To: "Philip S. Wachtel" Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu --On 1997$BG/(J 12$B7n(J 9$BF|(J 2:10, Philip S. Wachtel wrote: >>Hello! >> >>Does anyone know how to configure atalk so that users can write and read >>files in their home directories as their own user names and read and write >>to shared directories as nobody? For this function, I configured CAP by starting **two** aufs processes. One needs personal accounts to access and the other permits "guest" access. I guess netatalk can be configured by same manner. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Michiro ISOBE ($Bc&ItNQO:(J in Japanese) Electromagnetic Energy Engineering Course Graduate School of Engineering, Osaka University ($BBg:eBg3XBg3X1!9)3X8&5f2J!!EE;R>pJs%(%M%k%.!<9)3X@l96(J in Japanese) by Cyberdog Mail System ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 9 01:24:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id BAA24497; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 01:24:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id BAA24493; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 01:24:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA06838; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 01:24:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA06836 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 01:24:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from one.gapc.com ([198.53.206.41]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id BAA06832 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 01:24:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from citation (ts17-12.ott.istar.ca [198.53.6.203]) by one.gapc.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA09757 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 01:24:49 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19971209011911.009211e0@gapc.com> X-Sender: rgrant@gapc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 01:19:11 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Roger Grant Subject: [netatalk-admins] Afp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I posted this message a few days ago and had no reply yet, so here it is again... I'm running Netatalk 1.4b2 with Linux 2.0.30, I get afp read and write errors that seems to only affect the resource fork (I checked permissions and all is OK): Dec 5 11:25:32 one afpd[6625]: afp_read: ad_read: Bad file number Dec 5 11:25:42 one afpd[6625]: flushfork: dfile Bad file number Dec 5 11:25:42 one afpd[6625]: afp_flushfork: Bad file number Dec 5 11:25:42 one afpd[6625]: afp_closefork: ad_close: Bad file number I'm not sure if it's a client or netatalk problem... If anyone else experienced that problem, I would appreciate your comments. Roger rgrant@gapc.com From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 9 03:58:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id DAA26989; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 03:58:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id DAA26985; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 03:58:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA14537; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 03:58:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id DAA14535 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 03:58:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from ncnoc.ncren.net (ncnoc.ncren.net [192.101.21.1]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id DAA14531 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 03:58:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from secantnet.com (cow.secantnet.com [192.154.66.5]) by ncnoc.ncren.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id DAA28849 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 03:58:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pony.secantnet.com by secantnet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id DAA00388; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 03:52:26 -0500 Received: by pony.secantnet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id DAA03074; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 03:53:35 -0500 From: whaley@cow.secantnet.com (Jonathan Whaley) Message-Id: <199712090853.DAA03074@pony.secantnet.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris 2.6 & netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 03:53:35 -0500 (EST) Cc: whaley@cow.secantnet.com (Jonathan Whaley) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Has anyone gotten netatalk-1.4b2+asun2.0a17 and Solaris 2.6 working? Everything was fine under 2.5.1, but now that I have 2.6 on an ultra 2 instead of an ultra 1 I can only use make afp/ddp connections instead of afp/tcp connections. Although I can connect to the afptcp port with telnet. Thanks for the info... -- Type Checks? We don't need no Stinkin' type checks. ====== Jonathan Whaley whaley@secantnet.com From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 9 08:49:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA16325; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 08:49:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA16320; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 08:49:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA01492; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 08:49:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA01469 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 08:49:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from comet.connix.com (comet.connix.com [198.69.10.4]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA01446 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 08:49:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bcoffey@localhost) by comet.connix.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA05561; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 08:49:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 08:49:01 -0500 (EST) From: Brendan M Coffey To: Roger Grant cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Afp In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19971209011911.009211e0@gapc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Roger Grant wrote: > I'm running Netatalk 1.4b2 with Linux 2.0.30, I get afp read and write > errors that seems to only affect the resource fork (I checked permissions > and all is OK): > Dec 5 11:25:32 one afpd[6625]: afp_read: ad_read: Bad file number > Dec 5 11:25:42 one afpd[6625]: flushfork: dfile Bad file number > Dec 5 11:25:42 one afpd[6625]: afp_flushfork: Bad file number > Dec 5 11:25:42 one afpd[6625]: afp_closefork: ad_close: Bad file number > > I'm not sure if it's a client or netatalk problem... If anyone else > experienced that problem, I would appreciate your comments. > I have the same problem, under the same conditions. Only one client machine experiences this problem: A Motorola 3000/200 running 7.5.3. I'm willing to bet it's a client issue, if only because nobody else in the office has had the problem. I do not, however, know what to blame it on. **-------------------------------------------------------------------** Brendan M Coffey | "You're level if you follow me/For quality GlobaLearn, Inc. | And I make no apology/For linking my bcoffey@globalearn.org | thinking with computer technology" www.globalearn.org | - Faithless, "Reverence" From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 9 10:33:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA20169; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 10:33:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA20165; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 10:33:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA08177; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 10:33:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA08139 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 10:33:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from bock.freinet.de (bock.freinet.de [193.141.226.1]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id KAA07896 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 10:32:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from prometheus (helge@id-online.freinet.de [193.141.226.117]) by bock.freinet.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA08907 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 16:32:12 +0100 Message-ID: <348D6503.48D65545@id-online.freinet.de> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 16:34:27 +0100 From: Helge Münnich Organization: ID-Online X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] AFP -- strange problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I have posted a mail with a question about userrights on the afp-server (we are using netatalk 1.4b2 on a linux (2.0.30) box with the macos8-patch). But now I know this isn't the problem, so I will describe it: >From time to time on two of four net-segments the macs(7.5.3 and macos8) can get files from the server but can't put files on it. On 7.5.3 it looks like they copying the half file and then the process stops; on macos8 it nearly completes before hanging around.On the server I can see the file and the .AppleDouble. The weird is that sometimes the macs complete their job after several minutes. The filesharing between the macs works normal. So I think it must be the server. After a reboot of the server (and the macs) it is ok for an indefinite time(this can be weeks!!). In most times when the error occures the syslog get the messages: Dec 8 13:03:35 tuttle afpd[3318]: main: asp_getrequest: -2 Dec 8 13:03:54 tuttle afpd[3318]: afp_write: asp_wrtcont: Connection timed out Dec 8 13:06:07 tuttle afpd[3318]: main: asp_getrequest: -2 Dec 8 13:06:15 tuttle afpd[3318]: main: asp_getrequest: -2 Dec 8 13:07:30 tuttle afpd[3318]: main: asp_getrequest: -2 Dec 8 13:07:44 tuttle afpd[3318]: afp_write: asp_wrtcont: Connection timed out Can someone explain this behavior or the syslog messages?? I am really messed up on this. Thanks and sorry for the terrible english. -- hm@id-online.freinet.de Helge Münnich Tel.: +49 761 290035 Schauinslandstr. 26c Fax : +49 761 290034 D-79100 Freiburg From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 9 11:05:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA21704; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:05:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA21699; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:05:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id LAA02388; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:06:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id LAA02385 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:06:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from fly.cnuce.cnr.it (foda-devel.cnuce.cnr.it [131.114.192.86]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id LAA02376 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:06:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by fly.cnuce.cnr.it (Smail3.1.26.7 #3) id m0xfSDN-0001eSC; Tue, 9 Dec 97 17:08 MET Message-Id: Date: Tue, 9 Dec 97 17:08 MET From: Francesco Potorti` To: Andrew Leahy CC: Netatalk admins In-reply-to: <3489537D.33CA625C@knox.edu> (aleahy@knox.edu) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] [repost] can't use guest host Organization: CNUCE-CNR, Via S.Maria 36, Pisa - Italy +39-50-593211 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > I installed netatalk in a Debian system, and everything seems to be > well, but I cannot use the guest account, i.e., the guest radio button > on the Mac remains grayed, so I cannot mount a volume as guest. > > Do anybody of you manage to export a volume to be mounted as guest? I had this problem on a RedHat system running netatalk 1.3.3. Upgrading to 1.4b2 fixed this problem , but I had to downgrade for other reasons (i.e., atalkd would crash if someone entered the wrong password). I use 1.4b2. I also have the problem with the wrong passwd. So it seems I have the worst of both versions :-(. THanks to all that suggested looking at options and such. I checked all the "obvious" things, but nothing changed. You might want to check out some of the newest asun versions of netatalk; also, there's a Linux-specific netatalk list (linux-atalk) which, if I recall correctly, is archived at netspace.org. There is probably a discussion of this problem somewhere on that list. Thank you. I'll switch to that list as soon as I find it. Francesco From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 9 11:13:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA22227; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:13:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA22223; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:13:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id LAA05573; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:13:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id LAA05551 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:13:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhub.hitchcock.org (MAILHUB.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.100]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id LAA05521 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:13:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailbox1.Hitchcock.ORG (MAILBOX1.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.110]) by mailhub.hitchcock.org (8.6.12-DND/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA21492 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:13:08 -0500 Message-id: <13980767@mailbox1.Hitchcock.ORG> Date: 09 Dec 97 11:13:54 EST From: William.P.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG (William P. McGonigle) Reply-To: Bill.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG Subject: [netatalk-admins] FDDI? To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Has anybody tried netatalk on FDDI? I'm under the impression that FDDITalk on the mac was a link layer interface which used EtherTalk phase 2 framing, so I'd hope that netatalk would work if the vendor's done the link work (Sun in this case). But, I'd be even more willing to fire it up if someone's tried it already. :) Thanks, -Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 9 11:43:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA24234; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA24230; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:42:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id LAA19870; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:43:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id LAA19866 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:43:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from fly.cnuce.cnr.it (foda-devel.cnuce.cnr.it [131.114.192.86]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id LAA19851 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:43:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by fly.cnuce.cnr.it (Smail3.1.26.7 #3) id m0xfSnf-0002cjC; Tue, 9 Dec 97 17:46 MET Message-Id: Date: Tue, 9 Dec 97 17:46 MET From: Francesco Potorti` To: Netatalk admins Subject: [netatalk-admins] No guest on netatalk 1.4b2 on Debian Organization: CNUCE-CNR, Via S.Maria 36, Pisa - Italy +39-50-593211 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I just installed netatalk on a Debian system. Everything works well, but I cannot use the guest account, as it is always greyed on the Mac. I checked the option to afpd, I added a line on both AppleVolume.system and AppleVolume.default, I read the man pages, but while I can access everything as a normal user, I cannot as guest. Also, I experience server locks when someone uses an incorrect passwd. I understand this is a known problem with 1.4b2. Thanks for any help Francesco From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 9 13:13:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA28240; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:13:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA28225; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:12:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA23415; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:12:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA23399 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:12:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from uustar.starnet.net (uustar.starnet.net [199.217.253.12]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA23388 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:12:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from Udatapag@localhost) by uustar.starnet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id MAA11016 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 12:10:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from 172.16.6.1 by datapage.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA18882; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 12:09:59 -0600 X-Sender: tim@stlouis.datapage.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7E2887572@leyada.jlm.k12.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 12:05:47 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Tim Rand Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Latest version. Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu How does one use ntimelord? I have not found information about how to use it and what it does. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 9 13:53:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA29708; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:53:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA29704; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:53:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id NAA16117; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:53:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id NAA16108 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:53:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from sparta.scl.co.uk (sparta.scl.co.uk [163.164.160.4]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA16070 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:53:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from [163.164.164.52] (modem119.saqnet.co.uk [194.88.73.119]) by sparta.scl.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA29789 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 18:52:50 GMT X-Sender: john@mail.scl.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 18:52:22 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: john@scl.co.uk (John Sutton) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AFP -- strange problems Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu What version AppleShare client are you using? Apparently there are some subtle problems with 3.7.1. If you are using that, try upgrading to 3.7.2. Probably that won't fix your problem, but it's worth doing anyway! Also, I'd try posting your problem to the Linux-Atalk list because it _might_ be Linux specific... >Hi, >I have posted a mail with a question about userrights on the afp-server >(we are using netatalk 1.4b2 on a linux (2.0.30) box with the >macos8-patch). But now I know this isn't the problem, so I will describe >it: >>From time to time on two of four net-segments the macs(7.5.3 and macos8) >can get files from the server but can't put files on it. On 7.5.3 it >looks like they copying the half file and then the process stops; on >macos8 it nearly completes before hanging around.On the server I can see >the file and the .AppleDouble. The weird is that sometimes the macs >complete their job after several minutes. >The filesharing between the macs works normal. So I think it must be the >server. After a reboot of the server (and the macs) it is ok for an >indefinite time(this can be weeks!!). In most times when the error >occures the syslog get the messages: > >Dec 8 13:03:35 tuttle afpd[3318]: main: asp_getrequest: -2 >Dec 8 13:03:54 tuttle afpd[3318]: afp_write: asp_wrtcont: Connection >timed out >Dec 8 13:06:07 tuttle afpd[3318]: main: asp_getrequest: -2 >Dec 8 13:06:15 tuttle afpd[3318]: main: asp_getrequest: -2 >Dec 8 13:07:30 tuttle afpd[3318]: main: asp_getrequest: -2 >Dec 8 13:07:44 tuttle afpd[3318]: afp_write: asp_wrtcont: Connection >timed out > >Can someone explain this behavior or the syslog messages?? > >I am really messed up on this. >Thanks and sorry for the terrible english. >-- >hm@id-online.freinet.de Helge M=FCnnich >Tel.: +49 761 290035 Schauinslandstr. 26c >Fax : +49 761 290034 D-79100 Freiburg *********************** John Sutton SCL Computer Services http://www.scl.co.uk Tel +44 (0) 1239 621021 *********************** From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 9 13:53:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA29759; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:53:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA29753; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:53:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA08603; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:53:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA08593 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:53:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from ramona.cyborganic.com (ramona.cyborganic.com [209.60.53.31]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA08563 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:53:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209.60.53.16 (intonarumori.detritus.net [209.60.53.16]) by ramona.cyborganic.com (8.8.7/8.7.7) with SMTP id KAA28836; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 10:53:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <348D85D3.8E0@hise.org> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 10:55:47 -0700 From: steev Organization: destroy spam, inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu CC: steev@hise.org Subject: [netatalk-admins] trouble with multiple zones Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu hi, i had netatalk running fine on my lan with no zones, now we've created 3 zones and i can't get it to work. my atalk.conf: eth0 -phase 2 -net 30000-40000 -zone "Detritus-Ramona" -zone "Immaculate-Ramona" -zone "Symbiosis-Ramona" my rc.atalk includes: echo -n 'starting appletalk daemons:' if [ -f ${ATALKDIR}/etc/atalkd ]; then ${ATALKDIR}/etc/atalkd; echo -n ' atalkd' fi if [ -f ${ATALKDIR}/bin/nbprgstr ]; then ${ATALKDIR}/bin/nbprgstr -p 4 `hostname|sed 's/\..*$//'`:Workstation@Detritus-Ramona ${ATALKDIR}/bin/nbprgstr -p 4 `hostname|sed 's/\..*$//'`:netatalk@Detritus-Ramona echo -n ' nbprgstr' fi if [ -f ${ATALKDIR}/etc/afpd ]; then ${ATALKDIR}/etc/afpd -n "Flotsam@Detritus-Ramona"; echo -n ' afpd' fi (what's the Workstation@ and netatalk@ mean, anyway?) error i keep getting in my log file: Dec 9 10:28:17 flotsam atalkd[186]: restart Dec 9 10:28:18 flotsam kernel: Too many routes/iface. do i need to do something with my ethernet interface configuration? or what? thanx, steev hise steev@hise.org From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 9 14:20:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA01325; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 14:20:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA01317; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 14:20:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA29105; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 14:21:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA29081 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 14:21:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from goddess.coe.missouri.edu (goddess.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.71]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA29049 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 14:21:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from [128.206.158.52] (baroque.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.52]) by goddess.coe.missouri.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA15006; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:20:07 -0600 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 13:20:06 -0600 From: Mark Donnelly Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Latest version. To: Tim Rand , netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Authenticated: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 9 Dec 1997 12:05:47 -0600 tim@stlouis.datapage.com (Tim Rand) wrote: >How does one use ntimelord? > >I have not found information about how to use it and what it does. ntimelord is a server time daemon for setting the clock on the Macintosh to the time on your netatalk file server. To use it, you have to download a chooser extension called (surprisingly) tardis. (Long live the Doctor!) --Mark "I think so Brain, but if they called them sad meals, then no one would buy them." From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 9 15:25:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA03715; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 15:25:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from nt6.nettaxi.com (nt6.nettaxi.com [206.79.4.11]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA03704; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 15:25:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (acsrv6_a4.go.com.jo [196.27.0.131]) by nt6.nettaxi.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA26627 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 12:17:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <348DE0FA.17C3@nettaxi.com> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 22:23:23 -0200 From: Amjad Zamil Reply-To: zamil@nettaxi.com Organization: S.T.S X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk for Solaris 2.x Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi Where can I find a precompiled version of Netatalk server for Solaris 2.x . Regards Amjad Zamil From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 9 18:38:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA10349; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 18:38:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA10345; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 18:38:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA05585; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 18:38:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA05578 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 18:38:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.advancenet.net (hermes.cu-online.com [205.198.248.82]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA05524 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 18:37:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from argus-systems.com (ranger.argus-systems.com [206.221.232.80]) by mail.advancenet.net (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA13443; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 18:39:55 -0600 Received: by argus-systems.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA12967; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 17:40:11 -0600 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 17:40:10 -0600 (CST) From: Andrew McNabb X-Sender: amcnabb@ranger To: Mark Donnelly cc: Tim Rand , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Latest version. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu How does this compare to NTP? I currently have xntpd running on my linux box and the Network Time Control Panel on my Mac. Are there any major differences between ntimelord and ntp? Thanks. ------------------------------- Andrew McNabb Argus Systems Group amcnabb@argus-systems.com ------------------------------- On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Mark Donnelly wrote: > On Tue, 9 Dec 1997 12:05:47 -0600 tim@stlouis.datapage.com (Tim Rand) > wrote: > > >How does one use ntimelord? > > > >I have not found information about how to use it and what it does. > > ntimelord is a server time daemon for setting the clock on the Macintosh > to the time on your netatalk file server. To use it, you have to > download a chooser extension called (surprisingly) tardis. > > (Long live the Doctor!) > > --Mark > "I think so Brain, but if they called them sad meals, then > no one would buy them." > > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 9 20:35:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA13179; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 20:35:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id UAA13175; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 20:35:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id UAA19884; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 20:35:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id UAA19882 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 20:35:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.cyberverse.com (brionne.cyberverse.com [204.140.176.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA19872 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 20:35:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (janus@localhost) by mail2.cyberverse.com (8.8.5/mail2) with SMTP id RAA01617 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 17:35:03 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: brionne.cyberverse.com: janus owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 17:35:02 -0800 (PST) From: Conner To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] xntp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Andrew McNabb wrote: > How does this compare to NTP? I currently have xntpd running on my linux > box and the Network Time Control Panel on my Mac. Are there any major > differences between ntimelord and ntp? Thanks. > > ------------------------------- > Andrew McNabb > Argus Systems Group > amcnabb@argus-systems.com > ------------------------------- > > On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Mark Donnelly wrote: > > > On Tue, 9 Dec 1997 12:05:47 -0600 tim@stlouis.datapage.com (Tim Rand) > > wrote: > > > > >How does one use ntimelord? > > > > > >I have not found information about how to use it and what it does. > > > > ntimelord is a server time daemon for setting the clock on the Macintosh > > to the time on your netatalk file server. To use it, you have to > > download a chooser extension called (surprisingly) tardis. > > > > (Long live the Doctor!) > > > > --Mark > > "I think so Brain, but if they called them sad meals, then > > no one would buy them." > > > > > I've made a habit of using the Network Time control panel myself, and have been quite happy with it. Handy as Macs are, appletalk is an ugly protocol, and anything I can do to switch any particular services over to tcp makes my network happier. -Conner Customer: I'm using Windows. Tech: Okay. Customer: Well, my computer isn't working. Tech: Yes, you said that. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 10 00:30:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id AAA24731; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 00:30:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from epcordes@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu id AAA24698; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 00:30:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id AAA22473; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 00:20:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id AAA20243; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 00:21:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id AAA20234 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 00:21:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from isomedia.com (morse.isomedia.com [207.149.221.7]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id AAA20223 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 00:21:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from isomedia.com (pm414.isomedia.com [207.149.222.173]) by isomedia.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA12928 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 22:20:31 -0800 Message-Id: <199712100620.WAA12928@isomedia.com> X-Sender: edewing@mail.isomedia.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Release Candidate 3 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 21:20:40 -0800 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Ed Ewing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu subscribe From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 10 00:42:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id AAA26353; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 00:42:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id AAA26342; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 00:42:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA09192; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 00:42:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id AAA09186 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 00:42:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from isomedia.com (morse.isomedia.com [207.149.221.7]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id AAA09164 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 00:42:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from isomedia.com (pm414.isomedia.com [207.149.222.173]) by isomedia.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA13732 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 1997 22:41:38 -0800 Message-Id: <199712100641.WAA13732@isomedia.com> X-Sender: edewing@mail.isomedia.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Release Candidate 3 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 21:41:46 -0800 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Ed Ewing Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk on Red Hat 5.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Anyone have information regarding compiling and running Netatalk on Red Hat 5.0? Have run into some problems on the compile apparently due to upated pam configuration. Over my head. Just want to continue using Netatalk in a small office LAN environment Thanks From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 10 16:39:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA05735; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 16:39:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA05720; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 16:39:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA00618; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 16:39:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA00607 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 16:39:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from holly.cam.harlequin.co.uk (holly.cam.harlequin.co.uk [193.128.4.58]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA00585 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 16:39:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from rocannon.cam.harlequin.co.uk (rocannon.cam.harlequin.co.uk [192.88.238.45]) by holly.cam.harlequin.co.uk (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA26788 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:39:06 GMT Received: from morph.cam.harlequin.co.uk (dynamic7.cam.harlequin.co.uk) by rocannon.cam.harlequin.co.uk; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:38:32 GMT Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19971210213831.009e6270@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: robert@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:38:31 +0000 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Rob Butterworth Subject: [netatalk-admins] Crashing solaris Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu This might be a FAQ, but I'm a little desparate here. I have two problems, one of which is a real hassle for us. The main problem is that our main file server has just died just as I tried to stop and restart the netatalk demons. I got a 'Data Fault' which I've never seen before and the machine rebooted, or at least tried to. Even trying to go to single user mode it hangs before we get to a command prompt. I've got someone rebuilding the machine from scratch now, but we're in two minds as to whether to put netatalk back on there. We're running 1.4b2, BTW, as we have so many different versions of MacOS, I don't think 1.3.3 is any use to us. The second problem is that I have the users' home directories published as 'Users' so people can get to each other's files. Every time someone connects to this shared volume it take several minutes to build the directory listing. We suspect that netatalk is doing a stat on every directory, of which there are many, and some of which are nfs mounted from other machines. Anyone else seen this and know of any way to stop it ? We have the same problem from our PC's using samba, but never used to have this problem with our NT server. Ta Rob -- Robert Butterworth UK Systems Manager Harlequin Ltd robert@harlequin.co.uk From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 10 17:05:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA06801; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 17:05:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA06793; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 17:04:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA21865; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 17:05:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA21861 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 17:05:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from goddess.coe.missouri.edu (goddess.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.71]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA21835 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 17:05:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from [128.206.158.52] (baroque.coe.missouri.edu [128.206.158.52]) by goddess.coe.missouri.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA23093; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 16:04:44 -0600 Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 16:04:46 -0600 From: Mark Donnelly Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Latest version. To: Andrew McNabb cc: Tim Rand , netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Authenticated: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >How does this compare to NTP? I currently have xntpd running on my >linux >box and the Network Time Control Panel on my Mac. Are there any major >differences between ntimelord and ntp? Thanks. As far as I can tell, the only real difference in functionality is that timelord runs over appletalk, whereas NTP runs over IP. If you have a method you're happy with, then I'd say to stay with it. --Mark "I think so Brain, but if they called them sad meals, then no one would buy them." From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 10 18:53:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA10674; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 18:53:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA10670; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 18:53:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA09738; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 18:53:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA09736 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 18:53:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from news.mtu.edu (news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA09728 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 18:53:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02499; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 18:52:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from cec.mtu.edu (root@cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.196]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04642; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 18:52:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from critter.cec.mtu.edu (critter.cec.mtu.edu [141.219.151.204]) by cec.mtu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/mtumailer-1.2) with SMTP id SAA09770; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 18:52:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 18:52:37 -0500 (EST) From: Edan Idzerda X-Sender: edan@critter.cec.mtu.edu To: Mark Donnelly cc: Andrew McNabb , Tim Rand , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Latest version. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Mark Donnelly wrote: > > As far as I can tell, the only real difference in functionality is that > timelord runs over appletalk, whereas NTP runs over IP. I haven't worked with timelord much, but I presume it only queries a single time server, whereas NTP is designed to gather time information from multiple servers. NTP also figures out the trip time from each of the servers it's using and has a hierarchy of the "quality" of the time from each server. That's a pretty lame summary, but my point is that I believe NTP is a much more complex method of time synchronization. > If you have a method you're happy with, then I'd say to stay with it. But I still agree with this :) - edan -- Edan Idzerda System Administrator -- Michigan Technological University, Houghton MI USA From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 10 21:09:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA13491; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:09:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA13487; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:09:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id VAA03345; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:10:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id VAA03340 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:10:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.sacbee.com (mail.sacbee.com [204.86.242.27]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA03330 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from exchange1.sacbee.com (exchange1.sacbee.com [128.103.5.210]) by mail.sacbee.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA08379 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 18:12:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from matteo.sacbee.com by exchange1.sacbee.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1458.49) id W0BFTW21; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 18:09:17 -0800 X-Sender: mmatteo@exchange1.sacbee.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 18:08:18 -0800 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Marc Matteo Subject: [netatalk-admins] NT Domains Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all, I know it sounds bizarre for a Mac server package but are there any plans to add NT authentication (via an NT domain controller) to netatalk (like Samba does)? Marc Marc Matteo Web Engineer, The Sacramento Bee (916) 321-1242 http://www.sacbee.com From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 10 21:26:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA14258; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:26:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA14252; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:26:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA14155; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:26:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id VAA14143 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:26:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from wired.com (get.wired.com [204.62.131.5]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA14131 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 21:26:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (aarong@localhost) by wired.com (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA27895; Wed, 10 Dec 1997 18:26:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 18:26:41 -0800 (PST) From: CyberTuna To: Marc Matteo cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] NT Domains In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Wienie-Benders: Hanes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 10 Dec 1997, Marc Matteo wrote: > I know it sounds bizarre for a Mac server package but are there any plans > to add NT authentication (via an NT domain controller) to netatalk (like > Samba does)? If you're running a Linux and PAM, you can compile PAM support into Netatalk and use pam_smb: ftp://ftp.csn.ul.ie/pub/linux/pam_smb/ Of course, you'll still need to have an /etc/passwd entry for each user. Aa. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 11 09:54:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA21843; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 09:54:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA21837; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 09:54:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA01069; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 09:54:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id JAA01057 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 09:54:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from phibes.dartmouth.edu (phibes.dartmouth.edu [129.170.18.45]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA01043 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 09:54:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from phibes.dartmouth.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phibes.dartmouth.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11669 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 09:54:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199712111454.JAA11669@phibes.dartmouth.edu> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Solaris compilation problem w/ asun2.0a17.2 + AFS Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 09:54:00 +22306256 From: Pat Wilson Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu asun2.0a17.2 compiles fine on my Solaris 2.x machine, but when I try to pull in AFS, I get complaints about undefined "sigvec" and "sigsetmask" in the AFS library liblwp.a. Am I missing some compatibility library or header file somewhere? Thanks. Pat Wilson paw@dartmouth.edu gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -DAFS -O -I../../include -I/usr/afsws/include -DAPPLCNAME -DCRLF -o afpd unix.o afs.o kuam.o send_to_kdc.o lifetime.o ofork.o main.o switch.o auth.o volume.o directory.o file.o enumerate.o desktop.o filedir.o fork.o appl.o gettok.o bprint.o status.o afp_options.o afp_asp.o afp_dsi.o messages.o config.o -L../../libatalk -L/usr/afsws/lib -L/usr/afsws/lib/afs -L/usr/local/lib -latalk -lkauth -lprot -lubik -lauth -lsys -lrxkad -lrx -laudit -llwp -lcmd -lcom_err /usr/afsws/lib/afs/util.a -ldes -lsocket -lnsl -lwrap Undefined first referenced symbol in file sigvec /usr/afsws/lib/liblwp.a(iomgr.o) sigsetmask /usr/afsws/lib/liblwp.a(preempt.o) From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 11 10:15:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA22932; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 10:15:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id KAA22918; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 10:15:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id KAA22915; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 10:15:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id KAA22900; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 10:15:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199712111515.KAA22900@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Pat Wilson cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Solaris compilation problem w/ asun2.0a17.2 + AFS In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Dec 1997 09:54:00." <199712111454.JAA11669@phibes.dartmouth.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 10:15:20 -0500 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Pat Wilson > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu > asun2.0a17.2 compiles fine on my Solaris 2.x machine, but when I try to > pull in AFS, I get complaints about undefined "sigvec" and "sigsetmask" in > the AFS library liblwp.a. Am I missing some compatibility library or > header file somewhere? Try moving "-latalk" to after "-ldes". There are compatibilty stubs for those libraries in "-latalk". The nice AFS code uses BSD semantics on the nice Solaris box. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 11 11:14:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA25558; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 11:14:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA25546; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 11:13:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA24055; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 11:13:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA24050 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 11:13:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.97]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA24040 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 11:13:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from atlantis.csc.umd.edu (rsw@atlantis.csc.umd.edu [129.2.8.129]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA03352; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 11:13:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 11:13:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Randall S. Winchester" To: Pat Wilson cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Solaris compilation problem w/ asun2.0a17.2 + AFS In-Reply-To: <199712111454.JAA11669@phibes.dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Try adding " -lc -L/usr/ucblib -lucb" just after -lsocket -lnsl -lwrap. At our site the first thing we do when we get a new Solaris release is; "cd /usr/lib;ln -s ../ucblib/libucb* ." and the we use "-lc -lucb" at the end of every piece of code that uses AFS on Solaris. Too much of AFS is still based on "BSD 4.2 C". There have been requests to Transarc to update their code to a more POSIX implementation..... Randall On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, Pat Wilson wrote: : : asun2.0a17.2 compiles fine on my Solaris 2.x machine, but when I try to : pull in AFS, I get complaints about undefined "sigvec" and "sigsetmask" in : the AFS library liblwp.a. Am I missing some compatibility library or : header file somewhere? : : Thanks. : : Pat Wilson : paw@dartmouth.edu : : gcc -I../../sys/solaris -D__svr4__ -DSOLARIS -DAFS -O -I../../include : -I/usr/afsws/include -DAPPLCNAME -DCRLF -o afpd unix.o afs.o kuam.o : send_to_kdc.o lifetime.o ofork.o main.o switch.o auth.o volume.o : directory.o file.o enumerate.o desktop.o filedir.o fork.o appl.o gettok.o : bprint.o status.o afp_options.o afp_asp.o afp_dsi.o messages.o config.o : -L../../libatalk -L/usr/afsws/lib -L/usr/afsws/lib/afs -L/usr/local/lib : -latalk -lkauth -lprot -lubik -lauth -lsys -lrxkad -lrx -laudit -llwp : -lcmd -lcom_err /usr/afsws/lib/afs/util.a -ldes -lsocket -lnsl -lwrap : : Undefined first referenced : symbol in file : sigvec /usr/afsws/lib/liblwp.a(iomgr.o) : sigsetmask /usr/afsws/lib/liblwp.a(preempt.o) : : From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 11 13:12:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA00400; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:12:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA00360; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:12:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA07070; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:12:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA07056 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:12:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.Hax.SE (p3.sto2.calypso.net [194.198.91.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA07024 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:12:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from spiff (spiff.Hax.SE [192.71.144.3]) by mailhost.Hax.SE (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA21627; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:11:51 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199712111811.TAA21627@mailhost.Hax.SE> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:11:51 +0100 (MET) From: Thomas Tornblom Reply-To: Thomas Tornblom Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Solaris compilation problem w/ asun2.0a17.2 + AFS To: paw@northstar.dartmouth.edu, rsw@Glue.umd.edu Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-MD5: WmwZufyRAv4lHi1Nar+6wg== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.0 CDE Version 1.2 SunOS 5.6 sun4m sparc Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >=20 > Try adding " -lc -L/usr/ucblib -lucb" just after -lsocket -lnsl -lwrap.= =20 > At our site the first thing we do when we get a new Solaris release is; > "cd /usr/lib;ln -s ../ucblib/libucb* ." and the we use "-lc -lucb" at the > end of every piece of code that uses AFS on Solaris. Too much of AFS is > still based on "BSD 4.2 C". There have been requests to Transarc to updat= e > their code to a more POSIX implementation..... >=20 >Shudder< Read after me: ucblibs are evil, evil, evil... Applications that doesn't compile without resorting to the ucblibs should e= ither=20 be rewritten or ditched! There are so many gotchas and mismatches between the standard libraries/inc= lude=20 files and the ucb stuff that is almost impossible to successfully get thing= s to=20 work with them. The type "DIR" in and is the first thing that comes = to=20 mind, although it seems they are mostly fixed in 2.6. > Randall >=20 Thomas Real life: Thomas T=F6rnblom Email: Thomas.Tornblom@Hax.S= E Snail mail: HB Hax Phone: +46 18 290 290 Banvallsv=E4gen 14 Fax: +46 18 290 291 S - 754 40 Uppsala, Sweden Cellular: +46 708 323118 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 11 13:23:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA01505; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:23:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA01498; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:23:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA15864; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:23:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA15855 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:23:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from phibes.dartmouth.edu (phibes.dartmouth.edu [129.170.18.45]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA15847 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:23:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from phibes.dartmouth.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phibes.dartmouth.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA11846; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:23:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199712111823.NAA11846@phibes.dartmouth.edu> To: Thomas Tornblom cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Solaris compilation problem w/ asun2.0a17.2 + AFS In-reply-to: (Your message of Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:11:51 EST.) <199712111811.TAA21627@mailhost.Hax.SE> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:23:12 +22306256 From: Pat Wilson Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > >=20 > > Try adding " -lc -L/usr/ucblib -lucb" just after -lsocket -lnsl -lwrap.= > =20 > > At our site the first thing we do when we get a new Solaris release is; > > "cd /usr/lib;ln -s ../ucblib/libucb* ." and the we use "-lc -lucb" at the > > end of every piece of code that uses AFS on Solaris. Too much of AFS is > > still based on "BSD 4.2 C". There have been requests to Transarc to updat= > e > > their code to a more POSIX implementation..... > >=20 > > >Shudder< > > Read after me: > > ucblibs are evil, evil, evil... > > Applications that doesn't compile without resorting to the ucblibs should either > be rewritten or ditched! > > There are so many gotchas and mismatches between the standard libraries/include > files and the ucb stuff that is almost impossible to successfully get things to > work with them. > > The type "DIR" in and is the first thing that comes to > mind, although it seems they are mostly fixed in 2.6. > > > Randall > > Thomas It's all very well and good to take the high moral ground, but the fact is that this is what's necessary to make the thing compile, so... Apparently, fixing their libraries to play nice isn't one of Transarc's top priorities. At least the ucblibs are there. Pat Wilson paw@dartmouth.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 11 14:04:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA03167; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:04:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id OAA03163; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:04:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id OAA03160; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:04:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA02971; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:59:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199712111859.NAA02971@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: Pat Wilson cc: Thomas Tornblom , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Solaris compilation problem w/ asun2.0a17.2 + AFS In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:23:12." <199712111823.NAA11846@phibes.dartmouth.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:59:40 -0500 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Pat Wilson > To: Thomas Tornblom > It's all very well and good to take the high moral ground, but the fact is > that this is what's necessary to make the thing compile, so... netatalk includes work around for this exact case, so I certainly wouldn't recommend including libucb. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 11 14:05:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA03235; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:05:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA03201; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:05:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA27709; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:05:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA27700 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:05:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.97]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA27685 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:05:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from atlantis.csc.umd.edu (rsw@atlantis.csc.umd.edu [129.2.8.129]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA11924; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:04:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:04:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Randall S. Winchester" To: Thomas Tornblom cc: paw@northstar.dartmouth.edu, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Solaris compilation problem w/ asun2.0a17.2 + AFS In-Reply-To: <199712111811.TAA21627@mailhost.Hax.SE> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I agree with what you are saying, however please note that I said; "-lc -lucb" It is important for others to understand the importance of this for those times when there is no other option. You *always* want to include libc before libucb,libBSD,libbsd,etc (Whatever your OS calles this library). Linking with -lc *before* -lucb keeps one from getting wrong functions (The signal() call is common problem) linked in to ones code. Heck with Solaris 2.4 you had to link with "-lc -lucb" just to get bcopy() bcmp() and bzero(). (I just used a #define to call the mem* equivelents, however...) Thus to summarize; ucblibs are evil, evil, evil... But if you must use them, make sure you look at libc first; link with "-lc -lucb" If that does not work; You probably do not want the software. Randall On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, Thomas Tornblom wrote: : > : > Try adding " -lc -L/usr/ucblib -lucb" just after -lsocket -lnsl -lwrap. : > At our site the first thing we do when we get a new Solaris release is; : > "cd /usr/lib;ln -s ../ucblib/libucb* ." and the we use "-lc -lucb" at the : > end of every piece of code that uses AFS on Solaris. Too much of AFS is : > still based on "BSD 4.2 C". There have been requests to Transarc to update : > their code to a more POSIX implementation..... : > : : >Shudder< : : Read after me: : : ucblibs are evil, evil, evil... : : Applications that doesn't compile without resorting to the ucblibs should either : be rewritten or ditched! : : There are so many gotchas and mismatches between the standard libraries/include : files and the ucb stuff that is almost impossible to successfully get things to : work with them. : : The type "DIR" in and is the first thing that comes to : mind, although it seems they are mostly fixed in 2.6. : : > Randall : > : : Thomas : : Real life: Thomas Törnblom Email: Thomas.Tornblom@Hax.SE : Snail mail: HB Hax Phone: +46 18 290 290 : Banvallsvägen 14 Fax: +46 18 290 291 : S - 754 40 Uppsala, Sweden Cellular: +46 708 323118 : : From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 11 14:28:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA04783; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:28:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA04771; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:28:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA09670; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:28:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA09622 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:28:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from alycia.dementia.org (ALYCIA.DEMENTIA.ORG [128.2.35.149]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA09533 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:28:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from johnstown.andrew.cmu.edu (JOHNSTOWN.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.35.156]) by alycia.dementia.org (8.8.5/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA05489 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:28:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:28:29 -0500 (EST) From: Derrick J Brashear Reply-To: Derrick J Brashear Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Solaris compilation problem w/ asun2.0a17.2 + AFS To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Try adding " -lc -L/usr/ucblib -lucb" just after -lsocket -lnsl -lwrap. > At our site the first thing we do when we get a new Solaris release is; > "cd /usr/lib;ln -s ../ucblib/libucb* ." and the we use "-lc -lucb" at the > end of every piece of code that uses AFS on Solaris. Too much of AFS is > still based on "BSD 4.2 C". There have been requests to Transarc to update > their code to a more POSIX implementation..... > Not really relevant to netatalk, but if: a) you have Solaris 2.5 or later you don't have to worry about the b*() functions b) we have code which of course is only useful if you're compiling from source to take care of e.g. sigvec and the like in the lwp "suite" c) which leaves only flock, used in the ktc stuff, that most AFS-aware code would need libucb to deal with, and the next time I build AFS I have a flock to fcntl set of crap I'm going to use to take care of that. So it's not that hard... Oh, and we don't need -laudit either;-) We now return you to your regularly scheduled netatalk.... -D From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 11 14:30:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA04919; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:30:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA04911; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:29:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA16551; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA16534 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:30:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mdcs2.mdcc.edu (mdcs2.mdcc.edu [147.70.8.33]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA16520 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:30:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mdcc.edu (gw-smtp.mdcc.edu [147.70.66.34]) by mdcs2.mdcc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA03885 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:29:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from MDCC-Message_Server by mdcc.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 15:33:49 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:27:36 -0500 From: Joe Duerstock To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Can you delete this subscription? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.164.2]) by kendall.mdcc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04526 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:24:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with SMTP id NAA01607; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:24:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (bulk_mailer v1.5+); Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:23:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA01505; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:23:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA01498; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:23:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA15864; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:23:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA15855 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:23:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from phibes.dartmouth.edu (phibes.dartmouth.edu [129.170.18.45]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA15847 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:23:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from phibes.dartmouth.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phibes.dartmouth.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA11846; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:23:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199712111823.NAA11846@phibes.dartmouth.edu> To: Thomas Tornblom cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Solaris compilation problem w/ asun2.0a17.2 + AFS In-reply-to: (Your message of Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:11:51 EST.) <199712111811.TAA21627@mailhost.Hax.SE> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:23:12 +22306256 From: Pat Wilson Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 11 14:31:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA05099; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:31:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA05086; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:31:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA10669; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:31:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA10660 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:31:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.97]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA10656; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:31:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from atlantis.csc.umd.edu (rsw@atlantis.csc.umd.edu [129.2.8.129]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA13106; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:31:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 14:30:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Randall S. Winchester" To: wesley.craig@umich.edu cc: Pat Wilson , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Solaris compilation problem w/ asun2.0a17.2 + AFS In-Reply-To: <199712111515.KAA22900@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 11 Dec 1997 wesley.craig@umich.edu wrote: : Try moving "-latalk" to after "-ldes". There are compatibilty stubs : for those libraries in "-latalk". The nice AFS code uses BSD semantics : on the nice Solaris box. : : :wes : Which version of netatalk has these compatibilty stubs? I reported this same problem to you a couple years ago. I remember replied something like; "I can't believe transarc would do something so rediculous" I can not find anything in netatalk-1.4b2. Randall From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 11 18:01:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA13760; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 18:01:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA13755; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 18:01:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA28508; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 18:01:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA28496 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 18:01:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mx.ext.ip.net.au (mx.ext.ip.net.au [203.32.160.15]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA28486 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 1997 18:01:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from gatekeeper.zircon.com.au (gatekeeper.zircon.com.au [203.4.185.1]) by mx.ext.ip.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA07020 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:03:47 +1100 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by gatekeeper.zircon.com.au (8.6.5/8.6.7) id KAA02443 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:01:20 +1100 Received: from 10.ts02.ip.net.au(203.61.1.230) by gatekeeper.zircon.com.au via smap (V1.3) id sma002440; Fri Dec 12 10:00:50 1997 Received: from [192.9.200.60] by server.hyphen.com.au (NTMail 3.01.03) id na012701; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:00:28 +1100 Message-ID: <3490724D.39FF@hyphen.com.au> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:07:57 +1100 From: Pete Carnell Organization: Hyphen Asia Pacific X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4c) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Printing on Solaris 2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Dear admins I am having difficulty printing from a Mac to solaris 2.5. I have the pap running OK as I can print postscript pages out of the Sparc, but when printing to the published chooser device, the mac reports Looking for LaserWriter Petes_QMS and thats it. The pap process has quit. Running the papd with a -d flag it tells me that there was a segmentation fault and pap has core dumped. All the readme's seem related to BSD, and Solaris is different. Can someone give me a pointer or if not I will send it into the bug dept. I have also looked through other mails under the existing mailing lists and there are other questions about this subject but no answers. Thanks in advance Pete Carnell -- -----%%%%%%%-----%%%%%%------ Peter Carnell Product Development Manager Hyphen Asia Pacific 3/3 Mentmore Avenue Rosebery NSW 2018 Sydney Oz Tel +61 (0)2 9313 6788 Fax +61 (0)2 9313 6209 MailTo:petec@hyphen.com.au Web http://www.hyphen.com.au From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Dec 12 22:20:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id WAA00202; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:20:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id WAA00196; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:20:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA10311; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:20:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA10309 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:20:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from isomedia.com (morse.isomedia.com [207.149.221.7]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA10292 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:20:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from isomedia.com (pm427.isomedia.com [207.149.222.186]) by isomedia.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA32176 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 20:19:56 -0800 Message-Id: <199712130419.UAA32176@isomedia.com> X-Sender: edewing@mail.isomedia.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Release Candidate 3 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 19:20:03 -0800 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Ed Ewing Subject: [netatalk-admins] Error logging in Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Anyone know what the following error means when trying to login and how to fix? afpd: 'can't resolve symbol ) _ _ xstat' (Console message) Thanks From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Dec 12 22:37:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id WAA00202; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:20:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id WAA00196; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:20:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA10311; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:20:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id WAA10309 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:20:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from isomedia.com (morse.isomedia.com [207.149.221.7]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA10292 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 22:20:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from isomedia.com (pm427.isomedia.com [207.149.222.186]) by isomedia.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA32176 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 1997 20:19:56 -0800 Message-Id: <199712130419.UAA32176@isomedia.com> X-Sender: edewing@mail.isomedia.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Release Candidate 3 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 19:20:03 -0800 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Ed Ewing Subject: [netatalk-admins] Error logging in Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Anyone know what the following error means when trying to login and how to fix? afpd: 'can't resolve symbol ) _ _ xstat' (Console message) Thanks From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Dec 13 14:22:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA00444; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 14:22:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA00440; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 14:22:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA11718; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 14:22:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA11710 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 14:22:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from axis.axisnet.net (axis.axisnet.net [206.54.226.1]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA11706 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 14:22:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from dega.titania.net (monet.titania.net [206.54.226.103]) by axis.axisnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA27506 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 13:22:56 -0600 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 97 13:25:26 Central Standard Time From: "Joseph T. Klein" To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu X-Mailer: Chameleon ATX 6.0, Standards Based IntraNet Solutions, NetManage Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I installed the FreeBSD netatalk package from the ports collection. When I fire it up I get: puck# sh netatalk.sh start netatalknbp_rgstr: Operation timed out Can't register puck:Workstation@* nbp_rgstr: Operation timed out Can't register puck:netatalk@* puck# I can see the appletalk entries in the routing table: puck# netstat -rn Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 206.54.226.254 UGSc 16 70 tun0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 10 48 lo0 206.54.226.254 206.54.229.65 UH 16 0 tun0 206.54.229.64/28 link#1 UC 0 0 206.54.229.65 127.0.0.1 UH 1 2406 lo0 AppleTalk: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire 0 0.0 U 0 16 lo0 => 0-32767 1024.172 U 1 12 de0 1024.172 0.0 UH 1 4 de0 32768-49151 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 49152-57343 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 57344-61439 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 61440-63487 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 63488-64511 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 64512-65023 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 65024-65279 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 65280-65407 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 65408-65471 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 65472-65503 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 65504-65519 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 65520-65527 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 65528-65531 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 65532-65533 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 65534 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 puck# and I can see the Macs et. al. on the network: puck# nbplkup Oberon:AFPServer 65280.75:249 Oberon:ARA - Client-Only 65280.75:2 Oberon: MacOS compatible 65280.75:252 Oberon:Workstation 65280.75:4 Titania:AFPServer 65280.144:254 Titania: Power Macintosh 65280.144:250 Titania:Workstation 65280.144:4 Snout:AFPServer 40.71:249 Snout:PPCToolBox 40.71:250 Snout: Power Macintosh 40.71:252 Snout:Workstation 40.71:4 etc. puck# So what's can the problem be? I don't grock how these entries get registered in the NBP database. Is it possible that I can't write to the database? What is the mechanism for creation and storage of the NBP database? -- From: Joseph T. Klein, Titania Corporation http://www.titania.net/ mailto: jtk@titania.net Sent: 13:25:26 CST/CDT 12/13/97 voice: +1 414 372 4565 FAX: +1 414 264 6038 From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Dec 14 02:50:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id CAA10434; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 02:50:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id CAA10425; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 02:50:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id CAA03194; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 02:51:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id CAA03184 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 02:50:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id CAA03180 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 02:50:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA12355; Sat, 13 Dec 1997 23:44:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from UNKNOWN(), claiming to be "current1.whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd012352; Sat Dec 13 23:44:47 1997 Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 23:42:08 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: "Joseph T. Klein" cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu you didn't install the patch refered to in the 2.2.5 erratum On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, Joseph T. Klein wrote: > I installed the FreeBSD netatalk package from the ports collection. > When I fire it up I get: > > puck# sh netatalk.sh start > netatalknbp_rgstr: Operation timed out > Can't register puck:Workstation@* > nbp_rgstr: Operation timed out > Can't register puck:netatalk@* > puck# > > I can see the appletalk entries in the routing table: > > puck# netstat -rn > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > default 206.54.226.254 UGSc 16 70 tun0 > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 10 48 lo0 > 206.54.226.254 206.54.229.65 UH 16 0 tun0 > 206.54.229.64/28 link#1 UC 0 0 > 206.54.229.65 127.0.0.1 UH 1 2406 lo0 > > AppleTalk: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > 0 0.0 U 0 16 lo0 => > 0-32767 1024.172 U 1 12 de0 > 1024.172 0.0 UH 1 4 de0 > 32768-49151 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 > 49152-57343 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 > 57344-61439 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 > 61440-63487 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 > 63488-64511 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 > 64512-65023 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 > 65024-65279 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 > 65280-65407 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 > 65408-65471 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 > 65472-65503 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 > 65504-65519 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 > 65520-65527 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 > 65528-65531 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 > 65532-65533 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 > 65534 1024.172 U 0 0 de0 > puck# > > and I can see the Macs et. al. on the network: > > puck# nbplkup > Oberon:AFPServer 65280.75:249 > Oberon:ARA - Client-Only 65280.75:2 > Oberon: MacOS compatible 65280.75:252 > Oberon:Workstation 65280.75:4 > Titania:AFPServer 65280.144:254 > Titania: Power Macintosh 65280.144:250 > Titania:Workstation 65280.144:4 > Snout:AFPServer 40.71:249 > Snout:PPCToolBox 40.71:250 > Snout: Power Macintosh 40.71:252 > Snout:Workstation 40.71:4 > etc. > > puck# > > So what's can the problem be? > > I don't grock how these entries get registered in the NBP database. > Is it possible that I can't write to the database? > What is the mechanism for creation and storage of the NBP database? > -- > From: Joseph T. Klein, Titania Corporation http://www.titania.net/ > mailto: jtk@titania.net Sent: 13:25:26 CST/CDT 12/13/97 > voice: +1 414 372 4565 FAX: +1 414 264 6038 > From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Dec 14 13:11:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA03469; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:11:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id NAA03460; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:11:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id NAA03456; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:10:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA03438; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:10:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199712141810.NAA03438@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: a sun cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] movieplayer and such with afpd In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Nov 1997 19:16:44 PST." <199711260316.TAA21187@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:10:49 -0500 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: a sun > To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, netatalk@umich.edu > the above will actually match either of the two perm bits instead of > both of them. the obvious fix is of course: > if ( (access & ( OPENACC_WR|OPENACC_DRD )) == > (OPENACC_WR | OPENACC_DRD)) { /* exclusive lock */ > lockop = LOCK_EX; > } else if ( (access & ( OPENACC_RD|OPENACC_DWR )) == > (OPENACC_RD | OPENACC_DWR)) { /* shared lock */ Actually, the original code does the "correct" thing. Consider this: if you open a file OPENACC_WR, but don't get the exclusive lock, how are you going to detect that someone already has opened the file OPENACC_WR|OPENACC_DRD? AFP defines four access modes. Read, write, deny-read, and deny-write. RD, WR, dRD, and dWR. If a file is opened dRD, RD must fail, dWR, WR must fail. RD and WR don't interact, and dRD and dWR don't interact. The original code was designed to be more restrictive than the AFP spec. To wit, dRD and WR generate a LOCK_EX, dWR and RD generate a LOCK_SH. This preserves the semantic that dWR and WR can't both be set, and that dRD and RD can't both be set. However, it adds the semantic that WR blocks RD and WR. Given that Unix only has two operators, LOCK_EX and LOCK_SH, this is the obvious result. I think that your code change has probably broken this semantic. I'm not sure if your byte-range locking code has fixed it. It all requires some analysis. :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Dec 14 13:15:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA03776; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:15:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id NAA03768; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:15:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id NAA03763; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:15:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id NAA03721; Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:14:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199712141814.NAA03721@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: wesley.craig@umich.edu To: a sun cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] movieplayer and such with afpd In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:10:49 EST." Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 13:14:55 -0500 X-Sender: wes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Here's the big block comment about the synchronization lock code in fork.c: /* * Perform synchronization locks. There are a couple of ways of * doing this. The method we're using here, translates W & !R * to EX, and R & !W to SH. This will allow multiple readers * and one writer. An alternate method translates R & W to SH, * and !R & !W to EX. This allows multiple writers, but limits * the reads to one, which doesn't make much sense, since most * apps will want to read *and* write. * * Note: By doing this, there's pretty much no point in doing * byte range locking. If you open for writing, you have a lock * no one else can break. * * One last thing: We do the locking late, so we can still return * data on a "Deny Conflict" error. */ :wes From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 15 05:40:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id FAA05315; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 05:40:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id FAA05311; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 05:40:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA16657; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 05:40:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA16655 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 05:40:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailout03.btx.dtag.de (mailout03.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.151]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id FAA16651 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 05:40:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from (fwd13.btx.dtag.de) [194.25.2.173] by mailout03.btx.dtag.de with smtp id 0xhXw2-00001E-00; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 11:39:38 +0100 Received: from 193.159.138.204 (06597961230-0001(btxid)@[193.159.59.28]) by fwd13.btx.dtag.de with smtp (S3.1.29.1) id ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 11:39:25 +0100 Message-ID: <34950AFE.20C8@marketing.ts> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 11:48:30 +0100 X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01I [de] (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] no login except as guest Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sender: 06597961230-0001@t-online.de From: sfbarth@t-online.de (Stefan Barth) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! I´ve installed netatalk 1.4b2 on two PCs, a 486 and a 133 MHz Pentium w/ 16 MB RAM. Linux is from a SuSE 5.0 distribution, the kernel says it´s 2.0.30. After setting up various accounts the following problem persists: No matter under which name and from which Mac (Sys 7.6 on a II fx or 8.0 on different PowerMacs), any attempt to log in as user results in a message "Wrong password...". Logging in as guest works fine. This is an excerpt of /var/log/messages: -- Dec 15 11:16:47 Beelzebub atalkd[281]: restart (1.4b2) Dec 15 11:16:48 Beelzebub atalkd[281]: zip_getnetinfo for eth0 Dec 15 11:17:07 Beelzebub last message repeated 2 times Dec 15 11:17:17 Beelzebub atalkd[281]: config for no router Dec 15 11:17:18 Beelzebub atalkd[281]: ready 0/0/0 Dec 15 11:17:31 Beelzebub papd[291]: restart (1.4b2) Dec 15 11:17:37 Beelzebub papd[291]: register Beelzebub:LaserWriter@* Dec 15 11:17:37 Beelzebub afpd[293]: Beelzebub:AFPServer@* started on 65280.115:130 (1.4b2) -- This is where I log in as guest -- Dec 15 11:20:42 Beelzebub afpd[300]: session from 65280.13:244 on 65280.115:129 Dec 15 11:20:42 Beelzebub afpd[300]: login noauth -- The linux volume is removed from the mac´s desktop -- Dec 15 11:21:08 Beelzebub afpd[300]: done Dec 15 11:21:08 Beelzebub afpd[293]: asp_chld 300 done -- Here I try with different names and passwords to log in -- Dec 15 11:21:20 Beelzebub afpd[301]: session from 65280.13:244 on 65280.115:129 Dec 15 11:21:20 Beelzebub afpd[301]: done Dec 15 11:21:20 Beelzebub afpd[293]: asp_chld 301 done Dec 15 11:21:26 Beelzebub afpd[302]: session from 65280.13:244 on 65280.115:129 Dec 15 11:21:26 Beelzebub afpd[302]: done Dec 15 11:21:26 Beelzebub afpd[293]: asp_chld 302 done Dec 15 11:21:32 Beelzebub afpd[303]: session from 65280.13:244 on 65280.115:129 Dec 15 11:21:32 Beelzebub afpd[303]: done Dec 15 11:21:32 Beelzebub afpd[293]: asp_chld 303 done -- In a netatalk.faq I found a reference to this problem, with one explanation concerning "illegal shells", the other with shadow passwords. I did grep on all the log files I could think of and didn´t get an entry for illegal. As for shadow passwords, I presume it´s a default of this distribution to use them, there is an /etc/shadow file. I don´t know how this ties in with netatalk, however. Can anybody help? Sincerely, Stefan Barth From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 15 07:43:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA07487; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 07:43:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA07481; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 07:43:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA27256; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 07:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id HAA27254 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 07:43:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.zao.or.jp (mail.zao.or.jp [210.132.55.227]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA27240 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 07:43:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from 192.168.1.4 ([210.132.55.226]) by mail.zao.or.jp (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA07779 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 21:39:39 +0900 Message-ID: <3495270C.41D2@zao.or.jp> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 21:49:41 +0900 From: kazunori miura Reply-To: kazu@zao.or.jp Organization: zao-net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] afpd problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello! (This post is better for redhat.com.) I installed netatalk 1.4b2-i386.rpm package in my 586PC. Yes , I am user of redhat5.0. Trying to select the PC in mac's selector, it failed with message 'afpd:can't resolve symbol '__xstat''. What does this mean?? I give up trace this message :-( Help me please. thank you. -- _________________________________ kazunori miura zao-net system manager yamagata city yamagata prefecture kazu@zao.or.jp _________________________________ From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 15 09:26:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id JAA09819; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 09:26:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id JAA09815; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 09:26:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id JAA09846; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 09:26:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id JAA09832 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 09:26:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from rice.farm.niu.edu (rice.farm.niu.edu [131.156.99.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id JAA09822 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 09:26:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from [131.156.7.61] (moe.acs.niu.edu [131.156.7.61]) by rice.farm.niu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA16699 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:25:58 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: z954043@rice.farm.niu.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <34950AFE.20C8@marketing.ts> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:25:57 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Brian Bergstrand Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] no login except as guest Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Hi! >I=B4ve installed netatalk 1.4b2 on two PCs, a 486 and a 133 MHz Pentium w/ >16 MB RAM. >Linux is from a SuSE 5.0 distribution, the kernel says it=B4s 2.0.30. > >After setting up various accounts the following problem persists: No >matter under which name and from which >Mac (Sys 7.6 on a II fx or 8.0 on different PowerMacs), any attempt to log >in as user results in a message >"Wrong password...". Logging in as guest works fine. >This is an excerpt of /var/log/messages: >-- > [log snip] > >In a netatalk.faq I found a reference to this problem, with one >explanation concerning "illegal shells", the >other with shadow passwords. I did grep on all the log files I could think >of and didn=B4t get an entry for >illegal. >As for shadow passwords, I presume it=B4s a default of this distribution to >use them, there is an /etc/shadow >file. I don=B4t know how this ties in with netatalk, however. > >Can anybody help? > >Sincerely, Stefan Barth Seth, you need to turn on support for shadow passwords. In your netatalk src directory, cd to etc/afpd. Open the makefile for that directory with your favorite editor, and add the following to the CFLAGS option: -DSHADOWPW Save the change, and cd back to the root of your netatalk src dir, and do a make clean, then make. You should be set to go. Brian Brian Bergstrand Network Specialist Northern Illinois University 815-753-8547 bbergstrand@niu.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 15 15:55:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA23487; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:55:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA23483; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:55:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA05812; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:56:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA05790 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:56:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA05618; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:55:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29225; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 12:54:38 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA13532; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 12:54:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 12:54:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712152054.MAA13532@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: wesley.craig@umich.edu CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: <199712141814.NAA03721@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> (wesley.craig@umich.edu) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] movieplayer and such with afpd Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu okay, i believe byte locks should make possible a much improved locking mechanism. how about doing the following for locks? 1) on an open fork, test access for read/write by attempting to set a read/write lock. return a AFPERR_LOCK on a write lock failure and AFPERR_ACCESS on a read lock failure. 2) if that succeeds, unset that lock and reset it to correspond to the requested deny modes. i.e., deny read gets a write lock and deny write gets a read lock. return the appropriate error on failure to set that as well. there's a minor race condition between 1 and 2, but i'm not sure how important that is. in the worst possible case, #2 might fail when it should have succeeded, resulting in an error message. currently, afp_read, afp_write, afp_setforkparams, and deletefile set locks. i believe that covers anything that goes through the adouble library. needless to say, the old behaviour is the default one under afs due to it lacking byte locks. so, does anyone see any problems with this setup? am i missing places that need byte lock protection? -a From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 15 16:00:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA23837; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:00:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA23830; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:00:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA07356; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:00:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA07337 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:00:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from vxe.ocis.uncwil.edu (vxe.ocis.uncwil.edu [152.20.1.10]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA07281 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:00:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from uncwil.edu (wheezer.hdw.uncwil.edu) by UNCWIL.EDU (PMDF V5.1-5 #15654) with ESMTP id <01IR7IQ16EL490N8F8@UNCWIL.EDU> for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:59:48 EST Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:05:31 -0500 From: Kevin Violette Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] no login except as guest To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Message-id: <34959B9B.96C9B161@uncwil.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable References: Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Brian Bergstrand wrote: > = > >Hi! > >I=B4ve installed netatalk 1.4b2 on two PCs, a 486 and a 133 MHz Pentiu= m w/ > >16 MB RAM. > >Linux is from a SuSE 5.0 distribution, the kernel says it=B4s 2.0.30. > > > >After setting up various accounts the following problem persists: No > >matter under which name and from which > >Mac (Sys 7.6 on a II fx or 8.0 on different PowerMacs), any attempt to= log > >in as user results in a message > >"Wrong password...". Logging in as guest works fine. > >This is an excerpt of /var/log/messages: > >-- > > > [log snip] > > > >In a netatalk.faq I found a reference to this problem, with one > >explanation concerning "illegal shells", the > >other with shadow passwords. I did grep on all the log files I could t= hink > >of and didn=B4t get an entry for > >illegal. > >As for shadow passwords, I presume it=B4s a default of this distributi= on to > >use them, there is an /etc/shadow > >file. I don=B4t know how this ties in with netatalk, however. > > > >Can anybody help? > > > >Sincerely, Stefan Barth > = > Seth, you need to turn on support for shadow passwords. In your netatal= k > src directory, cd to etc/afpd. Open the makefile for that directory wit= h > your favorite editor, and add the following to the CFLAGS option: > -DSHADOWPW > = > Save the change, and cd back to the root of your netatalk src dir, and = do a > make clean, then make. You should be set to go. > = > Brian > = > Brian Bergstrand > Network Specialist > Northern Illinois University > 815-753-8547 > bbergstrand@niu.edu I am having the same problem however when trying to recompile afpd I get this ERROR: main.c:255 'TIOCNOTTY' undeclared (first use this function)..... I am now using REDHAT 5.0 (Hurricane). I was using Builtmore and netatalk was working great. Now All I can do is get in as guest. = Thanks for the help. Kevin Violette Computer Consultant University of North Carolina at Wilmington violettek@uncwil.edu From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 15 16:46:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA26224; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:46:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA26213; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:46:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA24834; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:47:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id QAA24779 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:47:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhub.hitchcock.org (MAILHUB.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.100]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id QAA24660 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:46:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailbox1.Hitchcock.ORG (MAILBOX1.HITCHCOCK.ORG [130.189.240.110]) by mailhub.hitchcock.org (8.6.12-DND/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA14373 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:45:55 -0500 Message-id: <14135365@mailbox1.Hitchcock.ORG> Date: 15 Dec 97 16:46:44 EST From: William.P.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG (William P. McGonigle) Reply-To: Bill.McGonigle@Hitchcock.ORG Subject: [netatalk-admins] adventures with FDDI To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I asked a while back if it was possible to get netatalk running on FDDI. The answer so far is a definite maybe. It seems netatalk can talk to the FDDI adapter perfectly. I'm getting nonsense so far, but no noise. For one, netatalk can't gather the routing information properly. It winds up setting the net range for the max. I can specify it, if I turn write access off to the atalkd.conf, otherwise it overwrites. When the interface comes up, I can do some appletalk stuff before it panics. The weird thing is that if I do an nbplkup, I get responses from many different nets - not just those in my zone. I haven't even come up with a theory about how this can happen yet. Anyway, I'm hoping it's just a configuration problem, so I'm including some messages below, in case anyone can divine anything from them: Dec 15 16:29:56 sunwebserver1 unix: pseudo-device: ddp0 Dec 15 16:29:56 sunwebserver1 unix: ddp0 is /pseudo/ddp@0 Dec 15 16:30:48 sunwebserver1 atalkd[1796]: rtmp_packet: can't remove loopback: No such file or directory Dec 15 16:31:25 sunwebserver1 atalkd[1796]: looproute panic two routes Dec 15 16:31:25 sunwebserver1 atalkd[1796]: as_timer: can't route 268.101 to loopback: Address family not supported by protocol family Not sure why it's complaing about the loopback: lo0: flags=849 mtu 8232 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask ff000000 nf0: flags=863 mtu 4352 inet 130.189.240.141 netmask fffffc00 broadcast 130.189.243.255 ether 8:0:20:8f:26:af Thanks for anything, -Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 16 16:34:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA26664; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 16:34:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA26321; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 16:33:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA10042; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 16:33:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA10034 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 16:33:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from faust27_s_svc.rz.uni-frankfurt.de (faust27-atm.rz.uni-frankfurt.de [141.2.150.36]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id QAA10029 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 16:33:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from devilbox (actually NAFp2-062.rz.uni-frankfurt.de) by anna-atm.rz.uni-frankfurt.de with Local SMTP (PP); Tue, 16 Dec 1997 22:33:18 +0000 Message-ID: <3496F2DC.7589C495@em.uni-frankfurt.de> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 22:30:04 +0100 From: "Robert O'Kane" Organization: OTHERSPACE X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] All Ghosted entries : Personal MacLan Connect Ver 5.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Greetings, Problem: -- With netatalk-1.4b+asun-a17/2 (or pre-18.5) -- Linux 2.0.32 (SuSE 5.1) -- Lib.c-5.4.38 Windows Machine with Personal MacLan Connect Ver 5.5 can see all exported volumes but cannot mount. (All volumes are grey/ghosted out.) All MACs can mount fine with all combinations of guest/ and TCP/appletalk. All volumes are mode 777. I have the "afpd -d" scripts from two attemps following. Does anybody see something? The only "significant" difference I see, is the results for the command 24 : (afp_openvol?)for each of the two sessions. I got that far but I couldn't decipher the result codes :-( Also (?): Why does are the "server message" commands returning different values for the two sessions? (NOOBJ vs "normal"???) Thanks in advance, Robert O'Kane ################################################### First from Windoz box: terrorserver:/var/log # /usr/local/atalk/etc/afpd -d -c 20 -g nobody command: 18 12 0E 41 46 50 56 65 72 73 69 6F 6E 20 32 2E 31 ..AFPVersion 2.1 10 43 6C 65 61 72 74 78 74 20 70 61 73 73 77 72 .Cleartxt passwr 64 XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX dXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XX 00 00 00 X... (end) reply: 0, 0 (end) command: 16 10 . (end) reply: 0, 1 34 98 1A A6 02 00 0F 53 63 61 6E 73 2D 66 75 65 4......Scans-fue 72 2D 41 6C 6C 65 00 0C 54 65 72 72 6F 72 73 65 r-Alle..Terrorse 72 76 65 72 rver (end) command: 16 10 . (end) reply: 0, 2 34 98 1A A6 02 00 0F 53 63 61 6E 73 2D 66 75 65 4......Scans-fue 72 2D 41 6C 6C 65 00 0C 54 65 72 72 6F 72 73 65 r-Alle..Terrorse 72 76 65 72 rver (end) command: 24 18 00 00 20 0F 53 63 61 6E 73 2D 66 75 65 72 2D ... .Scans-fuer- 41 6C 6C 65 Alle (end) reply: 0, 3 00 20 01 00 . .. (end) command: 34 22 00 01 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 10 00 01 00 "............. (end) reply: -5018, 4 (end) command: 2 02 00 01 00 .... (end) reply: 0, 5 (end) command: 24 18 00 00 20 0C 54 65 72 72 6F 72 73 65 72 76 65 ... .Terrorserve 72 r (end) reply: 0, 6 00 20 00 00 . .. (end) command: 34 22 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 10 00 01 00 "............. (end) reply: -5018, 7 (end) command: 2 02 00 00 00 .... (end) reply: 0, 8 (end) command: 20 14 . (end) #################################################################### #################################################################### THIS is from a MAC (not over TCP): Works fine: command: 18 12 0E 41 46 50 56 65 72 73 69 6F 6E 20 32 2E 31 ..AFPVersion 2.1 10 43 6C 65 61 72 74 78 74 20 70 61 73 73 77 72 .Cleartxt passwr 64 XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX dXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XX 00 00 00 X... (end) reply: 0, 0 (end) command: 16 10 . (end) reply: 0, 1 34 98 1B 3A 02 00 0F 53 63 61 6E 73 2D 66 75 65 4..:...Scans-fue 72 2D 41 6C 6C 65 00 0C 54 65 72 72 6F 72 73 65 r-Alle..Terrorse 72 76 65 72 rver (end) command: 24 18 00 00 20 0F 53 63 61 6E 73 2D 66 75 65 72 2D ... .Scans-fuer- 41 6C 6C 65 Alle (end) reply: 0, 2 00 20 01 00 . .. (end) command: 34 22 00 01 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 10 00 02 00 "............. (end) reply: 0, 3 00 00 10 00 80 00 87 07 07 07 .......... (end) command: 2 02 00 01 00 .... (end) reply: 0, 4 (end) command: 24 18 00 00 20 0C 54 65 72 72 6F 72 73 65 72 76 65 ... .Terrorserve 72 r (end) reply: 0, 5 00 20 00 00 . .. (end) command: 34 22 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 10 00 02 00 "............. (end) reply: 0, 6 00 00 10 00 80 00 87 03 03 07 .......... (end) command: 2 02 00 00 00 .... (end) reply: 0, 7 (end) command: 24 18 00 00 20 0F 53 63 61 6E 73 2D 66 75 65 72 2D ... .Scans-fuer- 41 6C 6C 65 Alle (end) reply: 0, 8 00 20 01 00 . .. (end) command: 34 22 00 01 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 10 00 02 00 "............. (end) reply: 0, 9 00 00 10 00 80 00 87 07 07 07 .......... (end) command: 2 02 00 01 00 .... (end) reply: 0, 10 (end) command: 24 18 00 00 20 0C 54 65 72 72 6F 72 73 65 72 76 65 ... .Terrorserve 72 r (end) reply: 0, 11 00 20 00 00 . .. (end) command: 34 22 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 10 00 02 00 "............. (end) reply: 0, 12 00 00 10 00 80 00 87 03 03 07 .......... (end) command: 2 02 00 00 00 .... (end) reply: 0, 13 (end) command: 24 18 00 01 FF 0F 53 63 61 6E 73 2D 66 75 65 72 2D .....Scans-fuer- 41 6C 6C 65 Alle (end) reply: 0, 14 01 FF 00 00 00 02 34 98 0E 59 34 98 0E E1 00 00 ......4..Y4..... 00 00 01 00 7F FF FF FF 7F FF FF FF 00 1C 0F 53 ...............S 63 61 6E 73 2D 66 75 65 72 2D 41 6C 6C 65 cans-fuer-Alle (end) command: 34 22 00 01 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 02 00 02 00 "............. (end) reply: 0, 15 00 00 02 00 80 00 00 00 ........ (end) command: 38 26 00 00 00 00 01 &..... (end) reply: 0, 16 00 00 00 01 00 ..... (end) command: 24 18 00 01 FF 0C 54 65 72 72 6F 72 73 65 72 76 65 .....Terrorserve 72 r (end) reply: 0, 17 01 FF 00 00 00 02 34 8D ED EE 34 98 0D 56 00 00 ......4...4..V.. 00 00 00 00 7F FF FF FF 7F FF FF FF 00 1C 0C 54 ...............T 65 72 72 6F 72 73 65 72 76 65 72 errorserver (end) command: 34 22 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 02 00 02 00 "............. (end) reply: 0, 18 00 00 02 00 80 00 00 05 ........ (end) command: 34 22 00 01 00 00 00 00 02 07 7F 13 7F 02 00 "............. (end) (life goes on happily...) -- */ ---------------------------------------------- Unfortunatly, I find language (like politics) necessary for humans. Leider finde Ich Sprache (wie Politik) fuer die Menschen notwendig. ---------------------------------------------- Robert O'Kane Kunstlergruppe OTHERSPACE Founding Member and Linker URL : http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~okane email: okane@em.uni-frankfurt.de ---------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 16 17:22:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA08295; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 17:22:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA08281; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 17:22:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA24699; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 17:22:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA24692 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 17:22:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from gummy.cs.indiana.edu (gummy.cs.indiana.edu [129.79.252.102]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA24674 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 17:22:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (brbothwe@localhost) by gummy.cs.indiana.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/IUCS_2.14) with SMTP id RAA18269 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 17:22:02 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: gummy.cs.indiana.edu: brbothwe owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 17:22:01 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Eric Bothwell To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems copying recursively Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I am running netatalk 1.42b under RedHat Linux 4.2 (soon to be Redhat 5.0) and am having the following problem: When our Mac users try and copy entire directories from a mounted AppleShare, they get error messages about "file could not be found" for *every* file that is in any directories below the one they are trying to copy. (EG they try and move MYSTUFF to their Mac, but MYSTUFF has a sub-directory in it called JUNK. None of the files from JUNK will copy. They all say "file could not be found") Should recursive directory copies work? I saw in the atalkd man page that "It is not possible to move directories between devices." but not sure if this applies or not. Thanks! -Brian ------------------------------------------------------ | Brian Bothwell: http://php.indiana.edu/~brbothwe | | CS Masters student | | Center for Excellence in Education/Wisdom Tools | ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 16 23:13:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id XAA07359; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:13:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id XAA07352; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:13:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA07080; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:13:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA07076 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:13:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from chaos1.sugar-land.sl.slb.com (chaos1.sugar-land.sl.slb.com [163.185.20.169]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id XAA07070 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:13:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:14:57 -0600 (CST) From: DAVID SIMS 1 281 285 7792 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu CC: SIMS@SUGAR-LAND.SL.SLB.COM Message-Id: <971216231457.189f@SUGAR-LAND.SL.SLB.COM> Subject: [netatalk-admins] Anyone have a suggestion what could be causing these log files ??? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folks, I am seeing lots of messages in the log files (netatalk-1.4b2) like this: Dec 16 22:07:03 dilbert atalkd[95]: rtmp_packet extended mismatch 8001 Dec 16 22:07:13 dilbert atalkd[95]: rtmp_packet extended mismatch 229 Dec 16 22:07:13 dilbert atalkd[95]: rtmp_packet extended mismatch 1701 Dec 16 22:07:13 dilbert atalkd[95]: rtmp_packet extended mismatch 1880 Dec 16 22:07:13 dilbert atalkd[95]: rtmp_packet extended mismatch 2693 Dec 16 22:07:23 dilbert atalkd[95]: rtmp_packet bad hop count from 292.81 for 291 Some would correlate the beginning of these log file messages to the beginning of the appearance of frame relay in our wide area network.... If anyone has any thoughts or ideas how to troubleshoot the underlying problem causing these log file entries, please let me know by e-mail. I am NOT currently subscribed to the mailing list. TIA. David Sims Schlumberger From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 17 06:52:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA19274; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 06:52:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA19270; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 06:52:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA29630; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 06:51:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA29628 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 06:51:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from whitby.tees.ac.uk (whitby.tees.ac.uk [152.105.2.19]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id GAA29624 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 06:51:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from uk.ac.tees by whitby.tees.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02644; Wed, 17 Dec 97 11:51:55 GMT Received: from scorch (scorch.tees.ac.uk) by teesside.ac.uk; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:51:10 GMT From: John Barry -Technician Received: from sue (sue.tees) by scorch; Wed, 17 Dec 97 11:52:15 GMT Date: Wed, 17 Dec 97 11:52:13 GMT Message-Id: <10312.9712171152@sue> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] External CD's & QuickTime Reply-To: John.Barry@tees.ac.uk X-Mailer: [XMailTool v3.1.0] Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, This is off topic, but having spent several weeks, on and off, trying to get this to work, I figure this is something people should know. I've spent the past several weeks trying to get some LaCie external CD drives, (12 speed panasonic) to work properly with out 6100/60's they're running a vanila version of 7.5.5 except for the fact that the "DBEX" resource is missing from the system file to stop users from turning the extensions off. I tried numerous scsi utilities on the drives, (scsi-probe, mnt-everything, silverlining, drive7, schuzzy, etc.) all to no avail, many would see the drives, some could even display the partition map of the disk in it, but none would mount it, those that tried, died, taking the system with it. I installed the driver,(D2CDinit 3.3.2) it died when it encountered QT (2.5) powerplug. I tried installing software FPU, that made no difference, I tried reformatting the disk with things such as drive7, HDT, spotlock, etc. but none of them was capable of mounting the CD, (somewhat ironic, since if you install a non-Apple drive, like a "sun" conner disk, then it installs a driver that will mount any scsi device you hook up to it, at least with drive7 anyway....) I was tearing my hair out untill last week, when QT 3.0b2 was released, as a last resort I installed it, (I'm always a little dubious about installing beta system software in a lab.) and finally it works, though you can't boot from the CD, you'll still need a pukka Apple CD Drive if you want to do that... One question: Has anybody mounted a 12 speed panasonic internally? If so what did you use as the front blanking plate? I've been told the Apple CD plate won't work with this drive, is this true? Here's hoping somebody finds the above usefull. later jb From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 17 11:33:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA29990; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:33:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA29983; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:33:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id LAA16795; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:33:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id LAA16787 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:33:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from arwen.unibe.ch (arwen.unibe.ch [130.92.9.52]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id LAA16749 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:33:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ubecx01 (actually ubecx01.unibe.ch) by arwen with smtpL; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:28:19 +0100 Received: from [130.92.144.229] (soho10.unibe.ch) by ubecx01.unibe.ch (PMDF V5.1-7 #21734) with ESMTP id <0ELCDRF3G008SC@ubecx01.unibe.ch> for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:28:29 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 16:00:40 +0100 From: Simon Hefti Subject: [netatalk-admins] HFS compatible CDs X-Sender: hefti@ubecx01.unibe.ch To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I am new here and am just trying to find out how to burn a Macintosh compatible CD on the Linux box. I am using netatalk and have copied all the files I want to have on the CD to the Linux machine via netatalk. Now there should be a way to include the .AppleDouble information in such a way on the CD that the Mac will find it ? Any help is appreciated. Simon. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hefti Simon hefti@phim.unibe.ch --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 17 12:06:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA01625; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA01621; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:06:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA21880; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:06:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA21878 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:06:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (colossus.cs.wits.ac.za [146.141.26.202]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA21835 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:06:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jon@localhost) by colossus.cs.wits.ac.za (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA26577; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:09:11 +0200 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:09:11 +0200 (SAT) From: John Ostrowick To: Simon Hefti cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] HFS compatible CDs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu you have absolutely no chance of succeeding. the .appledouible stuff is reunified with the othger stuff by afpd. so unless that cd is mounted on an afpd server it will never be usable. ____________________________________________________________ John Ostrowick jon@cs.wits.ac.za, +27 11 716-3783 Computer Science Department, University of the Witwatersrand Web site, ftp site and listserv all available at: http://macaroni.cs.wits.ac.za/ On Wed, 17 Dec 1997, Simon Hefti wrote: > Hi, > I am new here and am just trying to find out how to burn a Macintosh > compatible CD on the Linux box. I am using netatalk and have copied > all the files I want to have on the CD to the Linux machine via > netatalk. Now there should be a way to include the .AppleDouble information > in such a way on the CD that the Mac will find it ? > > Any help is appreciated. Simon. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Hefti Simon hefti@phim.unibe.ch > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 17 12:29:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA02830; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:29:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA02815; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:29:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA03808; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:29:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id MAA03793 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:29:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.imaginet.co.uk (tanya.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.16]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id MAA03766 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:29:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:26:48 +0000 (GMT) From: Vivek To: John Ostrowick cc: Simon Hefti , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] HFS compatible CDs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 17 Dec 1997, John Ostrowick wrote: > On Wed, 17 Dec 1997, Simon Hefti wrote: > > Hi, > > I am new here and am just trying to find out how to burn a Macintosh > > compatible CD on the Linux box. I am using netatalk and have copied > > all the files I want to have on the CD to the Linux machine via > > netatalk. Now there should be a way to include the .AppleDouble information > > in such a way on the CD that the Mac will find it ? > > Any help is appreciated. Simon. > > you have absolutely no chance of succeeding. the .appledouible stuff is > reunified with the othger stuff by afpd. so unless that cd is mounted on > an afpd server it will never be usable. Hang on though - couldn't you use the afpfs module to reimport the netatalk shared directory into the linux box, and use that to make an hfs filesystem, which could then be burned onto the CD? directory_with_.Appledoubles--->netatalk--->afpfs--->hfs--->CD -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 17 13:33:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA05054; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:33:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA05049; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:32:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id NAA19398; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:33:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id NAA19347 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:33:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA19340 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:33:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08906; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:32:28 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA18484; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:32:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:32:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712171832.KAA18484@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: vivek@imaginet.co.uk CC: jon@colossus.cs.wits.ac.za, simon.hefti@phim.unibe.ch, netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (message from Vivek on Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:26:48 +0000 (GMT)) Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] HFS compatible CDs Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hang on though - couldn't you use the afpfs module to reimport the netatalk shared directory into the linux box, and use that to make an hfs filesystem, which could then be burned onto the CD? directory_with_.Appledoubles--->netatalk--->afpfs--->hfs--->CD well, you might want to check out . it almost does what's wanted. the only thing that's needed is modifications to the code to understand netatalk's appledouble layout. i suppose the above scenario is one possible solution to achieving that, but it shouldn't be hard to modify mkhfs to understand netatalk's format as well. -a From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 17 13:50:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA06251; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:50:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA06242; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:50:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id NAA27651; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:51:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id NAA27640 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:51:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.de.uu.net (relay2.de.uu.net [192.76.144.63]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA27617 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:51:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from msn-130.au2.d.uunet.de [149.229.251.130] by relay2.de.uu.net with ESMTP (5.61c:023_BLOCK/2.7.0.l_1-relay2a) id TAA01321; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:51:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from office.nexon.com (christian.nexon.com [192.168.168.2]) by office.nexon.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA01557 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:43:11 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971217194751.006f8d60@192.168.168.1> X-Sender: mailman@192.168.168.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:47:51 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Christian Jung Subject: [netatalk-admins] Filesharing Mac & PC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, I have installed netatalk 1.4b2 and a Samba-Server (for Windows-Clients) on a Linux box to share files (PC/Mac) on the Linux Server. I=B4m still a bit confused about Apple Filehandling, so some questions appeared and I hope for some help. I moved some Word documents (.doc in PC) to Linux and loaded them on the Mac -> works fine. Then I moved some HTML and GIF Files from the PC to the Linux box and tried to open them with the Mac Result: The Mac claims that he can not open the file because it has not been found !? The File and directory permissions are far open (rwx for owner/group/other) so the files should we loadable. So I can see them on the Mac, but loading is not possible (BTW all that happening with OS 8.0) The Mac even shows only the Standard-Icon for these documents. Anyone a clue?=20 BTW Is there a source of information about these (for a PC user) confusing .Apple.. files?=20 Thanks in advance Christian From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 17 14:10:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA07360; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:10:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA07306; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:10:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA07127; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:10:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id OAA07087 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:10:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomcat.ca.metsci.com (tomcat.ca.metsci.com [199.106.147.201]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA06978 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:10:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (solmssen@localhost) by tomcat.ca.metsci.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA07578 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:10:01 -0800 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:10:01 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Solmssen To: Netatalk List Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Filesharing Mac & PC In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19971217194751.006f8d60@192.168.168.1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu file names are too long ... Mac files must be <=3D 31 characters ---- Andrew On Wed, 17 Dec 1997, Christian Jung wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I have installed netatalk 1.4b2 and a Samba-Server (for Windows-Clients) = on > a Linux box to share files (PC/Mac) on the Linux Server. I=B4m still a bi= t > confused about Apple Filehandling, so some questions appeared and I hope > for some help. >=20 > I moved some Word documents (.doc in PC) to Linux and loaded them on the > Mac -> works fine. > Then I moved some HTML and GIF Files from the PC to the Linux box and tri= ed > to open them with the Mac > Result: The Mac claims that he can not open the file because it has not > been found !? The File and directory permissions are far open (rwx for > owner/group/other) so the files should we loadable. > So I can see them on the Mac, but loading is not possible (BTW all that > happening with OS 8.0) > The Mac even shows only the Standard-Icon for these documents. > Anyone a clue?=20 >=20 > BTW Is there a source of information about these (for a PC user) confusin= g > .Apple.. files?=20 >=20 > Thanks in advance > Christian >=20 From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 17 14:12:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA07557; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:12:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id OAA07545; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:12:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA06549; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:13:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id OAA06535 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:13:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomcat.ca.metsci.com (tomcat.ca.metsci.com [199.106.147.201]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id OAA06528 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:13:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (solmssen@localhost) by tomcat.ca.metsci.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA07599 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:12:24 -0800 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:12:24 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Solmssen To: Netatalk List Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] HFS compatible CDs In-Reply-To: <199712171832.KAA18484@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Why are you guys killing yourselves to do this? A copy of Toast for the mac is < $100, and CD burners are SCSI. Just unhook it and move it to the Mac, mount the linux box and copy the files over. ---- Andrew On Wed, 17 Dec 1997, a sun wrote: > > Hang on though - couldn't you use the afpfs module to reimport the > netatalk shared directory into the linux box, and use that to make an hfs > filesystem, which could then be burned onto the CD? > > directory_with_.Appledoubles--->netatalk--->afpfs--->hfs--->CD > > > well, you might want to check out > . it almost does what's > wanted. the only thing that's needed is modifications to the code to > understand netatalk's appledouble layout. i suppose the above scenario > is one possible solution to achieving that, but it shouldn't be hard > to modify mkhfs to understand netatalk's format as well. > > -a > From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 17 17:25:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA29800; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:25:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA29789; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:25:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA07209; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:25:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA07192 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:25:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from zen.via.ecp.fr (zen.via.ecp.fr [138.195.130.71]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA07166 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:25:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (regis@localhost) by zen.via.ecp.fr (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA08380; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 23:25:12 +0100 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 23:25:12 +0100 (CET) From: Regis Duchesne Reply-To: Regis Duchesne To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu cc: F.Potorti@cnuce.cnr.it Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re : Cannot login as guest on Linux Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > I just installed netatalk on Linux, using the prepackaged Debian > binary. Everything goes well (thanks, people!), but I cannot log in > as guest on the Linux box. > I added an entry for a cdrom in /etc/AppleVolumes.default, and indeed > the volume is seen by regular users from Macs, but one cannot mount it > as guest, as the guest radio button is grayed. I browsed through the > latest year archive of the mailing list, but found nothing to this > respect. Same thing here :( If you have the solution, please CC me, I'm not sure to be on this list. Best regards, Regis "HPReg" Duchesne - Engineering Student at ***** ******** ***** www http://www.via.ecp.fr/~regis/ (O o) I use Linux & 3Com (1135 KB/s over 10Mb/s ethernet) --.oOO--(_)--OOo.----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 17 17:48:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA01993; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:48:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA01987; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:48:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA12647; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:48:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA12643 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:48:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.sacbee.com (mail.sacbee.com [204.86.242.27]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA12621 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:48:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from exchange1.sacbee.com (exchange1.sacbee.com [128.103.5.210]) by mail.sacbee.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA08723 for ; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:50:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from matteo.sacbee.com by exchange1.sacbee.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1458.49) id W0BFT627; Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:47:24 -0800 X-Sender: mmatteo@exchange1.sacbee.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19971217194751.006f8d60@192.168.168.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:46:21 -0800 To: Christian Jung From: Marc Matteo Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Filesharing Mac & PC Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On 12/17/97, Christian Jung wrote: >I moved some Word documents (.doc in PC) to Linux and loaded them on the >Mac -> works fine. >Then I moved some HTML and GIF Files from the PC to the Linux box and tried >to open them with the Mac >Result: The Mac claims that he can not open the file because it has not >been found !? >The Mac even shows only the Standard-Icon for these documents. >Anyone a clue? Check your "AppleVolumes.system" file. It maps the PC suffix to a Mac type/creator. Make sure you have something like: .html TEXT MOSS This will make .html files show up as Netscape files. .gif GIFf 8BIM This will make .gif files show up a Photoshop files. Hope this helps some... Marc Marc Matteo Web Engineer, The Sacramento Bee (916) 321-1242 http://www.sacbee.com From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 18 03:25:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id DAA10955; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 03:25:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id DAA10951; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 03:24:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id DAA00361; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 03:25:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id DAA00359 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 03:25:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pat.uio.no (pat.uio.no [129.240.130.16]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id DAA00355 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 03:25:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from gilgamesj.uio.no (actually gilgamesj.uio.no [129.240.222.66]) by pat.uio.no with SMTP (PP); Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:24:53 +0100 Received: from math.uio.no (eris.uio.no [129.240.222.69]) by gilgamesj.uio.no ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:24:52 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199712180824.JAA23918@gilgamesj.uio.no> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 05/05/96 To: Andrew Solmssen cc: Netatalk List Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] HFS compatible CDs In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:12:24 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:24:50 +0100 From: Nicolai Langfeldt Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Andrew Solmssen tastet: > Why are you guys killing yourselves to do this? A copy of Toast for the > mac is < $100, and CD burners are SCSI. Just unhook it and move it to the > Mac, mount the linux box and copy the files over. Or even: Make a image with toast on the mac and copy it to the linux via netatalk and burn the image! Nicolai From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 18 06:01:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA28378; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 06:01:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA28374; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 06:01:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA02156; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 06:01:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA02154 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 06:01:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from fly.cnuce.cnr.it (foda-devel.cnuce.cnr.it [131.114.192.86]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id GAA02147 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 06:01:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by fly.cnuce.cnr.it (Smail3.1.26.7 #3) id m0xidl7-0001efC; Thu, 18 Dec 97 12:04 MET Message-Id: Date: Thu, 18 Dec 97 12:04 MET From: Francesco Potorti` To: Regis Duchesne CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu In-reply-to: (regis@via.ecp.fr) Subject: [netatalk-admins] Re: Re : Cannot login as guest on Linux Organization: CNUCE-CNR, Via S.Maria 36, Pisa - Italy +39-50-593211 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu It seems that the debian package has a problem with pam (the authentication library). Also another problem shows up: if someone tries to mount a volume with the wrong password, the server hangs and must be restarted (and perhaps also the module unloaded and reloaded, don't remember for sure). I have been told that the latter problem goes away by recompiling netatalk without pam support, but I don't know if that would make the first problem go away, so I did nothing and am waiting for the next release. I'm not on this list any more, I am now following linux-atalk, on whose archives I found the info above. -- Francesco Potorti` (researcher) Voice: +39-50-593203 Computer Network Division Operator: +39-50-593211 CNUCE-CNR, Via Santa Maria 36 Fax: +39-50-904052 56126 Pisa - Italy Email: F.Potorti@cnuce.cnr.it From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 18 07:44:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id HAA00240; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 07:44:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id HAA00236; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 07:44:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id HAA20350; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 07:45:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id HAA20342 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 07:44:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay.de.uu.net (relay.de.uu.net [192.76.144.64]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id HAA20317 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 07:44:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from msn-33.au3.d.uunet.de [149.229.250.33] by relay.de.uu.net with ESMTP (5.61c:023_BLOCK/2.7.0.l-relay1b) id NAA00182; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:43:30 +0100 (MET) Received: from office.nexon.com (christian.nexon.com [192.168.168.2]) by office.nexon.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA00320 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:31:14 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971218133556.006f2ec0@192.168.168.1> X-Sender: mailman@192.168.168.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:35:56 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Christian Jung Subject: [netatalk-admins] AppleVolumes.system - Entrys Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu >Check your "AppleVolumes.system" file. It maps the PC suffix to a Mac >type/creator. Make sure you have something like: >.html TEXT MOSS >This will make .html files show up as Netscape files. >.gif GIFf 8BIM >This will make .gif files show up a Photoshop files. Does anybody know where I can find information about these entrys? I dont know what MOSS or 8BIM stand for. Is there a list or something showing that MOSS means Netscape-File or 8BIM a Photoshop-File? As a PC user I would like some information about this AppleVolumes.system file be included in the Netatalk package. Think there is no info yet :( Thanks, Christian From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 18 08:23:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA01248; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:23:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA01241; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:23:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA28218; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:24:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA28215 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:24:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailhost.imaginet.co.uk (tanya.imaginet.co.uk [194.168.150.16]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id IAA28205 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:24:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:22:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Vivek To: Christian Jung cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AppleVolumes.system - Entrys In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19971218133556.006f2ec0@192.168.168.1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Thu, 18 Dec 1997, Christian Jung wrote: > >Check your "AppleVolumes.system" file. It maps the PC suffix to a Mac > >type/creator. Make sure you have something like: > >.html TEXT MOSS > >This will make .html files show up as Netscape files. > >.gif GIFf 8BIM > >This will make .gif files show up a Photoshop files. > > Does anybody know where I can find information about these entrys? > I dont know what MOSS or 8BIM stand for. Is there a list or something > showing that MOSS means Netscape-File or 8BIM a Photoshop-File? > As a PC user I would like some information about this AppleVolumes.system > file be included in the Netatalk package. Think there is no info yet :( If you place files which have the correct icons on a Mac onto a netatalk shared volume, then look at the .AppleDouble entries for those files, you should see an 8 character long string inside, ~25bytes from the end, like 'TEXTUNIX' or 'PDF CARO'. Be warned, if you set the first 4 characters to TEXT, the file will be subject to CR/LF translation [I think]. The second half indicates which application is considered to 'own' the file. I don't know how to view this info on a Mac - I've heard of something called 'resedit', which sounds like it might show you this info, but that's pretty much 4th or 5th hand. This is all pretty empirical, so if someone actually _knows_ , I'd be happy to know :). Hope this helps. -- fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/cortex From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 18 08:35:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA01697; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:35:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA01692; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:35:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA01251; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:36:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA01249 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:36:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mercury.datacompusa.com (gr-max7-28.iserv.net [206.67.165.156]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA01227 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:36:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (msb.datacompusa.com [192.168.1.100]) by mercury.datacompusa.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA00287 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:37:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199712181337.IAA00287@mercury.datacompusa.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] papd, laserwriter 8.5.1, and ppd files Date: Thu, 18 Dec 97 08:37:30 -0000 x-sender: msb@datacompusa.com. x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Michael Scott Boers To: "netatalk" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu First the background: Netatalk 1.4b2 FreeBSD 2.2.2 MacOs 8 LaserWriter 8.5.1 Printers HP LaserJet 4M, 4M+, Tektronics Phaser 560 When I set up my printers with papd, the printer information returned by the chooser about the dpi of the printer and other items are incorrect. If I try to download the font list, the chooser just hangs. I examined the contents of the ppd files for the printers and they all have interactive postscript to query the printer about its characteristics. Does papd support these interactive statements? I read through the man pages on papd, if there are other good references for setting up printers with netatalk I would like to know about them. Thanks in advance, Michael Scott Boers Datacomp Appraisal Services From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 18 08:39:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA01923; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:39:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA01918; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:39:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA02245; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:40:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA02243 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:40:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.de.uu.net (atuin.de.uu.net [192.76.144.65]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA02232 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:40:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pec-21.au4.f.uunet.de [149.228.242.21] by mail.de.uu.net with SMTP (5.61c:027_BLOCK/2.7.3.f) id OAA00697; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 14:39:12 +0100 (MET) X-zyzzy: 90% Message-ID: <34992777.41C6@easi.de> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 14:39:03 +0100 From: EASi Engineering Support Organization: EASi-Engineering X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01SC-SGI (X11; I; IRIX 6.2 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netatalk List Subject: [netatalk-admins] Problems printing from mac to linux printer! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! I'm using netatalk 1.42b2 on S.u.S.E 5.1 Linux-Box! Printing from Linux to the printer (attached to parallel port linux box) works fine, but not from the macs. I heard about some problems using lp or plp with spooling. I tried both with adding some links from "/dev/lp1" to "/dev/printer" and "/var/run/printer". But I didn't succed. I got the following messages: Dec 16 22:23:59 lisa papd[160]: child 230 for "LaserJet 6P L" from 65280.27 Dec 16 22:23:59 lisa papd[230]: read_ppd .ppd: No such file or directory Dec 16 22:24:06 lisa papd[230]: lp_conn_unix connect /dev/printer: Connection refused Dec 16 22:24:06 lisa papd[230]: lp_print: lp_conn_unix: Connection refused Dec 16 22:24:06 lisa papd[160]: child 230 done But I'm not sure how to fix the problem. Which printer spooler should I take? Has anyone an idea? Regards Lutz -- EASi-Engineering GmbH Tel. ++49 (0) 6023 / 970706 Roentgenstr. 4 Fax ++49 (0) 6023 / 970170 63755 Alzenau E-Mail support@easi.de From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 18 08:43:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA02316; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:43:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA02308; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:43:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA13770; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:43:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA13757 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:43:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from ocee.groupsys.com (ocee.groupsys.com [155.229.202.35]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA13745 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:43:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from ocee.groupsys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ocee.groupsys.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA02102; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:43:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199712181343.IAA02102@ocee.groupsys.com> To: Vivek cc: Christian Jung , netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AppleVolumes.system - Entrys In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:22:00 GMT." Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:43:01 -0500 From: William LeFebvre Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu You wrote: > If you place files which have the correct icons on a Mac onto a netatalk > shared volume, then look at the .AppleDouble entries for those files, you > should see an 8 character long string inside, ~25bytes from the end, like > 'TEXTUNIX' or 'PDF CARO'. Be warned, if you set the first 4 characters to > TEXT, the file will be subject to CR/LF translation [I think]. The second > half indicates which application is considered to 'own' the file. I don't > know how to view this info on a Mac - I've heard of something called > 'resedit', which sounds like it might show you this info, but that's > pretty much 4th or 5th hand. This is all pretty empirical, so if someone > actually _knows_ , I'd be happy to know :). Hope this helps. Yes, resedit will show you both type and creator codes. You can get resedit from the Apple web site: visit www.apple.com, and ask for the shortcut "utilities" (enter "utilities" in the search window and click on shortcut). This gives you an alphabetized list of utilities that are available for download. William LeFebvre Group sys Consulting +1 770 813 3224 From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 18 08:47:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA02778; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:47:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA02767; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:47:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA04078; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:48:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA04075 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:48:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from sid.trust.ee (sid.trust.ee [194.204.23.180]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA04062 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:47:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from sid.trust.ee (wink.trust.ee [194.204.23.184]) by sid.trust.ee (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA30115; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:46:54 +0200 Message-ID: <34992951.F4AB0DE5@sid.trust.ee> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:46:57 +0200 From: Hannu Krosing X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christian Jung CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AppleVolumes.system - Entrys References: <3.0.3.32.19971218133556.006f2ec0@192.168.168.1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Christian Jung wrote: > >Check your "AppleVolumes.system" file. It maps the PC suffix to a Mac > >type/creator. Make sure you have something like: > >.html TEXT MOSS > >This will make .html files show up as Netscape files. > >.gif GIFf 8BIM > >This will make .gif files show up a Photoshop files. > > Does anybody know where I can find information about these entrys? One possibiliti is to use ResEdit and find out . > I dont know what MOSS or 8BIM stand for. Is there a list or something > showing that MOSS means Netscape-File or 8BIM a Photoshop-File? > As a PC user I would like some information about this AppleVolumes.system > file be included in the Netatalk package. Think there is no info yet :( this is what comes with debian linux: -------8<-------------8<-------------8<-------------8<-------------8<-------------8<------ # system-wide volumes to be exported go here: # local directory name of macintosh volume # / "Machine Root" # file translations go here: # .extension filetype creator # default translation . ???? UNIX # sounds .mod STrk STrk .mid Midi ttxt .aiff AIFF SNDM .wav WAV SNDM .au ULAW SNDM # video .moov MooV ttxt .mov MooV ttxt .mpg MPEG mMPG .mpeg MPEG mMPG # formatted text .html TEXT MOS! .htm TEXT MOS! .rtf TEXT MSWD .doc WDBN MSWD # compressed archives .bin BINA MB2P .zip ZIP ZIP .tar TARF TAR! .gz Gzip Gzip .Z ZIVM LZIV .sea ???? SITx .cpt PACT CPCT .sit SIT! SIT! .hqx TEXT SITx # graphics .tiff TIFF JVWR .tif TIFF JVWR .bmp BMPp JVWR .pct PICT ttxt .pict PICT ttxt .jpeg JPEG JVWR .jpg JPEG JVWR .gif GIFf JVWR -------8<-------------8<-------------8<-------------8<-------------8<------ From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 18 13:32:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA13148; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:32:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA13144; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:32:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA00920; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:32:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA00909 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:32:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from umunhum.cagent.com (umunhum-e.cagent.com [209.19.76.3]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA00895 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:32:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from cypher.cagent.com (cypher [209.19.76.216]) by umunhum.cagent.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA13555 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 10:32:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 10:32:24 -0800 From: Tom Watson Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AppleVolumes.system - Entrys To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu X-Mailer: LeeMail 2.1 Message-Id: Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu In previous email, Christian Jung wrote: >>Check your "AppleVolumes.system" file. It maps the PC suffix to a Mac >>type/creator. Make sure you have something like: >>.html TEXT MOSS >>This will make .html files show up as Netscape files. >>.gif GIFf 8BIM >>This will make .gif files show up a Photoshop files. > >Does anybody know where I can find information about these entrys? >I dont know what MOSS or 8BIM stand for. Is there a list or something >showing that MOSS means Netscape-File or 8BIM a Photoshop-File? >As a PC user I would like some information about this AppleVolumes.system >file be included in the Netatalk package. Think there is no info yet :( The entries shown above (TEXT, and MOSS for example) are the mac's 'type' and 'creator' codes. The first (the type code) indicates various file types, application, text file, gif file, etc.. The second indicates the default program to launch when double clicking on the document. On the PC, this is usually indicated by the extension of the file. There are some programs that show the type & creator codes for a particular file, but the one that I'm the happiest with is called 'Snitch'. It modifies the 'Get Info...' screen to show the type & creator codes, and allows changing them. If you have the program in question, create a small 'test' file and see what type/creator codes it comes up with. Apple registers creator codes so that they may be unique, and has defined a couple of type codes (TEXT is one of them) as 'standard'. There may be a definitive list of PC type file extensions and their mapping to type/creator codes, but I'm not sure where it is. Hope this helps. ---- Tom Watson Generic short signature tsw@cagent.com (home: tsw@johana.com) From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 18 15:48:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA16560; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:48:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA16551; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:48:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA27717; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:48:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id PAA27335 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:46:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.finan.com (www.finan.com [209.96.27.162]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA26762 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:44:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from [209.96.27.174] (bill.finan.com [209.96.27.174]) by www.finan.com (8.8.7/8.8.5/finan1.1) with ESMTP id OAA06455 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 14:45:19 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19971218133556.006f2ec0@192.168.168.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 14:37:21 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Bill Stewart-Cole Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AppleVolumes.system - Entrys Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Tom Watson said: >In previous email, Christian Jung wrote: > >>>Check your "AppleVolumes.system" file. It maps the PC suffix to a Mac >>>type/creator. Make sure you have something like: >>>.html TEXT MOSS >>>This will make .html files show up as Netscape files. >>>.gif GIFf 8BIM >>>This will make .gif files show up a Photoshop files. >> >>Does anybody know where I can find information about these entrys? >>I dont know what MOSS or 8BIM stand for. Is there a list or something >>showing that MOSS means Netscape-File or 8BIM a Photoshop-File? >>As a PC user I would like some information about this AppleVolumes.system >>file be included in the Netatalk package. Think there is no info yet :( > >The entries shown above (TEXT, and MOSS for example) are the mac's 'type' and >'creator' codes. The first (the type code) indicates various file types, >application, text file, gif file, etc.. The second indicates the default >program to launch when double clicking on the document. On the PC, this is >usually indicated by the extension of the file. A great explanation. It is also useful for people not familiar with this to recognize that the type and creator are separate tags that every file has. There is not a 1:1 mapping of type to creator, so you don't always have all files of a specific type edited by the same application. It's a bit different from the DOS extension system in that sense. The AppleVolumes.system list is an attempt to map extensions roughly to a type/creator pair, something the MacOS itself will do (with the PC Exchange list) if it knows that the volume it is looking at is a DOS volume. >There are some programs that show the type & creator codes for a particular >file, but the one that I'm the happiest with is called 'Snitch'. It modifies >the 'Get Info...' screen to show the type & creator codes, and allows >changing >them. If you have the program in question, create a small 'test' file and >see >what type/creator codes it comes up with. Apple registers creator codes so >that they may be unique, and has defined a couple of type codes (TEXT is >one of >them) as 'standard'. There may be a definitive list of PC type file >extensions >and their mapping to type/creator codes, but I'm not sure where it is. This is maddening, because at some point I managed to find a good list (there can't really be a 'definitive' one) of 246 mappings and I massaged it into a AppleVolumes file, and I cannot recall where it came from. It is a bit long for the mailing list (or is it? ) and it is somewhat idiosyncratic. (TEXT is BBEdit for example...) There is also a program called "IC2netatalk" at http://www.roelle.i3w.com/linux/netatalk/IC2netatalk/IC2netatalk.sit.hqx which is supposed to be able to spit out a AppleVolumes.system file based on the IC settings. I have not tried it. A smaller (but reasonable-looking) list is at http://www.stpt.usf.edu/staff/johnson/linux/AppleVolumes.system.txt ---- Bill Stewart-Cole This space for rent. Inquire within. From owner-netatalk-admins Thu Dec 18 18:35:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA22932; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 18:35:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA22928; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 18:35:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA15903; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 18:36:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA15893 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 18:36:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.finan.com (www.finan.com [209.96.27.162]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA15883 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 18:36:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from [209.96.27.174] (bill.finan.com [209.96.27.174]) by www.finan.com (8.8.7/8.8.5/finan1.1) with ESMTP id RAA07737 for ; Thu, 18 Dec 1997 17:35:23 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <34999644.2B89C30C@mail.plymouth.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 17:26:44 -0600 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Bill Stewart-Cole Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] AppleVolumes.system - Entrys Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 2:37 PM -0600 12/18/97, Bill Stewart-Cole wrote: >This is maddening, because at some point I managed to find a good list >(there can't really be a 'definitive' one) of 246 mappings and I massaged >it into a AppleVolumes file, and I cannot recall where it came from. It is >a bit long for the mailing list (or is it? ) and it is somewhat >idiosyncratic. (TEXT is BBEdit for example...) I surrender! It is amazing how many people actually wanted this list. Note that it is actually now 291 file mappings, which means 291 extensions, NOT 291 Mac types and creators. .tif and .tiff for example are both TIFF's and there are many (61 to be exact) extensions I map as BBEdit text files, because they appear to be text The mappings are something of a matter of taste. The source is some list i found somewhere and quickly forgot plus my own choices for things. The file is at http://web.finan.com/AppleTypes.txt ---- Bill Stewart-Cole This space for rent. Inquire within. From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Dec 19 02:49:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id CAA10769; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 02:49:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id CAA10765; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 02:49:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA10009; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 02:49:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id CAA10007 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 02:49:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailout00.btx.dtag.de (mailout00.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.148]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id CAA09999 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 02:49:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from (fwd01.btx.dtag.de) [194.25.2.161] by mailout00.btx.dtag.de with smtp id 0xixAT-00013l-00; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:48:21 +0100 Received: from linux.ifd.de (075338050-0001(btxid)@[193.158.174.220]) by fwd01.btx.dtag.de with smtp (S3.1.29.1) id ; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:48:16 +0100 Received: (from root@localhost) by linux.ifd.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA09958 for netatalk-admins@umich.edu; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:48:58 +0100 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:48:58 +0100 Message-Id: <199712190748.IAA09958@linux.ifd.de> To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Dial on Demand X-Sender: 075338050-0001@t-online.de From: ifd-stoetzer@t-online.de (root) Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu We run a Linux box as a router for the entire company. If anybody wants to surf in the net, the Linux box autmatically starts a ppp-connection to the internet (via /sbin/request-route). My question: how can I determine which workstation wants to go online. We use almost Macs as clients and the Linux box establishes a modem connection to the provider. It would be great if anybody could give me a hint. Thanks in advance Jann Wegner Insitut fuer Demoskopie 78476 Allensbach eMail: ifd-stoetzer@t-online.de From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Dec 19 04:30:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id EAA12884; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 04:30:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id EAA12880; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 04:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id EAA15318; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 04:31:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id EAA15316 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 04:31:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from germ2.uibk.ac.at (germ2.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.2]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id EAA15306 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 04:31:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from buster.retti.at (internet@pc1-c608.uibk.ac.at [138.232.125.17]) by germ2.uibk.ac.at (8.8.7/8.8.6 (l 2)) with ESMTP id KAA20994; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 10:29:50 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.13] (m610.retti.at [192.168.0.13]) by buster.retti.at (8.8.3/8.8.3 (GR v 1.1)) with ESMTP id KAA13973; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 10:20:43 +0100 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 10:20:43 +0100 X-Sender: gregor@mail.retti.at Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199712190748.IAA09958@linux.ifd.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: ifd-stoetzer@t-online.de (root), netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Gregor Retti Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Dial on Demand Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu At 8:48 Uhr +0100 19.12.1997, root wrote: >We run a Linux box as a router for the entire company. If anybody >wants to surf in the net, the Linux box autmatically starts a >ppp-connection to the internet (via /sbin/request-route). >My question: how can I determine which workstation wants to go >online. >We use almost Macs as clients and the Linux box establishes a >modem connection to the provider. >It would be great if anybody could give me a hint. > This has nothing to do with netatalk. I assume you are connecting to net thru a firewall. If so you may want to check out the options for IP-accounting. hope this helps gregor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- gregor retti ----------- http://germanistik.uibk.ac.at/germ/retti.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Dec 19 08:39:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA02499; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:39:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA02495; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:39:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA07859; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:40:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA07855 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from slacker.design.mindspring.net (slacker.design.mindspring.net [207.69.192.8]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA07846 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (pspierce@localhost) by slacker.design.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA29394 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:40:03 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:40:03 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Scott Pierce To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Macs crashing w/ photoshop In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I have five macs utilizing file sharing through a linux box using netatalk. Whenever someone attempts to save a photoshop file directly to a mount their mac crashes. Any hints or places to start to look. The mac networking is kind of an afterthought for me so I am not even sure what to look for. I can find nothing in the kernel logs and the network traffic appears ok. I did hack the code a while back to adjust or increase some of the buffering. That was actually in the hopes of stopping this same difficulty. It happens about 50% of the time they attempt to save from photoshop. I put in a new pci ethernet card in the hopes of resolving the issue but now I think it may be a configuration issue. Patrick Scott Pierce pspierce@mindspring.com CGI Programming Mindspring Enterprises From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Dec 19 15:06:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA14418; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:06:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA14414; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:06:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA08852; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:07:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA08846 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:07:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from MIT.EDU (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.28]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id PAA08841 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:07:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from MIT.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA26946; Fri, 19 Dec 97 15:06:58 EST Received: from CRLPC-5.MIT.EDU by MIT.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA14583; Fri, 19 Dec 97 15:06:46 EST Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19971219150633.007b3ba0@po9.mit.edu> X-Sender: phils@po9.mit.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:06:33 -0500 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: "Philip R. Thompson" Subject: [netatalk-admins] directory creation problems with a17.2 Cc: phils@MIT.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I've installed asun's 17.2 version on a solaris 2.5.1 box. Buuuut... I can't get directories and their contents to copy over or empty directories to be created without a false error message. When a folder is dragged onto the server a message appears complaining about permissions, then proceeds to create the directory but fails to copy its contents. The contents can then be copied into the just created folder in a second operation without incident. Deleting folders works fine. The permissions on the mac and workstation look fine. Anyone else seen this? Thanks, Philip Thompson MIT, School of Arch. and Planning -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBNJrTyDUldnImOHkBEQKEiwCfXzp2F+g22t+HDPgXw07zdUmI4sQAn1fW TTu75JoevKtyEn+9jWEpIB6P =yIRL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Philip Thompson | phils@mit.edu Computer Resource Lab., Rm 9-532 | 617-253-3535 (phone) MIT School of Architecture and Planning | 617-253-3625 (fax) 105 Massachusetts Avenue | Cambridge, MA 02139 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Dec 19 16:18:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA17445; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:18:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA17430; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:18:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA03118; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:18:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA03108 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:18:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE [130.149.4.15]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA03075 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:18:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de by mail.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE with SMTP (IC-PP); Fri, 19 Dec 1997 22:18:06 +0100 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu (Netatalk) Subject: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and "native" HFS ability? From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 22:18:32 +0100 Message-ID: <1d1j37v.8ys2g31tuxzzfM@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin X-Mailer: MacSOUP D-2.3 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu To the best of my knowledge Linux 2.1.X has HFS support (at least it worked very well with LinuxPPC on a Mac). Now what about accessing via Netatalk such an HFS volume (ZIP disk, CD, ...) mounted on a Linux machine? Will Netatalk write the resource fork and file information in the correct place or will it still use auxillary files/directories to store that information (which will not be understood when the volume is mounted on a real Mac). To give a simple example: can I mount an HFS format CD on a Linux machine (with hfs kernel support) and export it to a Mac which then can use it as if it was exported from another Mac (incl. resource forks)? --=20 Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de Institut f=FCr Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universit=E4t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ From owner-netatalk-admins Fri Dec 19 16:40:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id QAA18429; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:40:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id QAA18425; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:40:17 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA09184; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:40:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id QAA09177 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:40:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from jade.arc.nasa.gov (jade.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.116.157]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id QAA09143 for ; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:40:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (will@localhost) by jade.arc.nasa.gov (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA03120; Fri, 19 Dec 1997 13:30:55 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: jade.arc.nasa.gov: will owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 13:30:54 -0800 (PST) From: Will Johnston X-Sender: will@jade.arc.nasa.gov To: Georg Schwarz cc: Netatalk Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Netatalk and "native" HFS ability? In-Reply-To: <1d1j37v.8ys2g31tuxzzfM@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > To give a simple example: can I mount an HFS format CD on a Linux > machine (with hfs kernel support) and export it to a Mac which then can > use it as if it was exported from another Mac (incl. resource forks)? Yep, just use the 'afpd' option when mounting your HFS CD. This will cause the mount to use netatalk names for the resource fork (and a few other things.) It has worked perfectly for me. For more info, see: http://www-sccm.Stanford.EDU/~hargrove/HFS/README-2.html#ss2.1 -- Will Johnston Caelum Research NASA Ames Research Center From owner-netatalk-admins Sat Dec 20 17:59:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA06076; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 17:59:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA06072; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 17:59:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA10350; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 18:00:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA10347 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 17:59:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from rudopc.grunn.nl (asn01-02.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.39.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA10333 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 17:59:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (crj@localhost) by rudopc.grunn.nl (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id XAA00341 for ; Sat, 20 Dec 1997 23:58:42 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: rudopc.grunn.nl: crj owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 23:58:41 +0100 (MET) From: Rudo de Jong X-Sender: crj@rudopc.grunn.nl Reply-To: Rudo de Jong To: Netatalk mailinglist Subject: [netatalk-admins] Shadow-passwords & latest beta Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi there, Recently I installed a Linux-box in a network with Win95- and Apple-machine. For the Win95-clients I used Samba and for the Apple-side I found Netatalk to be a good choice. I got the latest beta and compiled and installed it. I found out that because the linux-box uses shadow-passwords the Apple-users can not connect to directories shared on the linux-box, eventhough they see the linux-box in the chooser. On the Netatalk-homepage I read something about a patch for the latest stable version. Is this patch also neccesary for the beta version? Thank you for your attention... ----------------------------- | Rudo de Jong | ----------------------------- Fatal Error: Couldn't enter Windows, use Doors. ----------- We are Microsoft. UNIX is irrelevant. Openness is futile. The Hive is all. You will be assimilated. From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 22 01:28:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id BAA25679; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 01:28:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id BAA25675; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 01:28:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA06028; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 01:28:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id BAA06026 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 01:28:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from homer.mir.com.my (homer.mir.com.my [202.186.33.5]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id BAA06022 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 01:28:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.195] (god.mir.com.my [192.168.1.195]) by homer.mir.com.my (8.8.7/8.8.5/PIH) with ESMTP id OAA20846 Mon, 22 Dec 1997 14:29:17 +0800 X-Sender: yeak@mail.mir.com.my Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 14:25:46 +0800 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu From: Yeak Nai Siew Subject: [netatalk-admins] Any manual regarding AppleTalk network? Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi all, I think I am extrememly interested in computer networking although my major is not in this field. I have been trying to gather and learn this thing for quite long time, and most of the manuals I found is about TCP/IP routing. I hardly find any AppleTalk routing stuffs, thing like zone and etc. Does anyone know a good book or information on the Web? I need to solve a weird networking problem I have in my company. Zone "A" Zone "B" Zone "C" -------- -------- -------- netatalk 1.4b2 NT 4.0 NT 4.0 All computers can "sense" there are three zones available. They can connect to each other even across zones without problem, but not from "C" to "A"! "A" to "C" is okay (surprise me)... I don't know why... probably at Zone "B" I have a machine which does not do routing (only has one ethernet card), but to broadcast Seed information and name that zone as Zone "B". The connection between zone "A" and "B" is maintained by a Linux server running netatalk 1.4b2, which has two ethernet cards. It responsible for the seeding of zone "A". The connection between zone "B" and "C" is maintained by a NT 4.0 server, which has two ethernet cards. It responsible for the seeding of zone "C". I am not sure if it is NT 4.0 problem. I would say it is. But it may be due to my inexperience in AppleTalk networking. I will be very delighted if someone could point me to the right direction. Thanks! Yeak Nai Siew << Macintosh Forever >> MIR Communications Sdn Bhd http://www.mir.com.my/ Creator of Mac Power User Group http://www.mir.com.my/mpug/ Public Key http://www.mir.com.my/~yeak/pgp.txt From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 22 13:58:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA24230; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:58:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA24226; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:58:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA19033; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:58:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id NAA19024 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:58:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from amazon.delgroup.com ([198.135.110.6]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA19011 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:58:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from statler.delgroup.com (statler.delgroup.com [10.1.30.30]) by amazon.delgroup.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA01820 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 14:00:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by statler.delgroup.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:58:29 -0500 Message-ID: <27302A1A699DD011AE9A0000F86010380146DA4B@statler.delgroup.com> From: "Wilner, Jonathan R" To: Netatalk mailinglist Subject: [netatalk-admins] 1.4b2 Compliation on Solaris 2.6? Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 13:58:26 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Has anyone on the list been able to get Netatalk 1.4b2 to compile under Solaris 2.6? Using either Sun's ProC compiler or GCC 2.7.2.3, it crashes on ddptp_utls.c, having problems with msgdsize. I have had no problems with either cc or gcc under 2.5.1, which is where I have compiled, only to install on 2.6. TIA, Jonathan Wilner Delaware Investment Advisers From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 22 14:09:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id OAA24837; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 14:09:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 id OAA24828; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 14:09:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with X.500 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu id OAA24824; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 14:09:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP id OAA24814; Mon, 22 Dec 1997 14:09:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199712221909.OAA24814@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> From: netatalk@umich.edu To: Yeak Nai Siew cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Any manual regarding AppleTalk network? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Dec 1997 14:25:46 +0800." Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 14:09:07 -0500 X-Sender: epcordes@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > From: Yeak Nai Siew > I hardly find any AppleTalk routing stuffs, thing like zone and etc. Does > anyone know a good book or information on the Web? Apple's InsideMacintosh:Networking book, at: http://gemma.apple.com/dev/techsupport/insidemac/Networking/Networking-2.html is a good reference. Somewhere in devworld/apple.com is the Inside Appletalk book, as well, if you need more. EV AN From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 23 23:14:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id XAA03995; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:14:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id XAA01828; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:06:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA00879; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:06:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA00877 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:06:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from slacker.design.mindspring.net (slacker.design.mindspring.net [207.69.192.8]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA00873 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:06:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (pspierce@localhost) by slacker.design.mindspring.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA02907; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:06:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:06:14 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Scott Pierce Reply-To: Patrick Scott Pierce To: Andras Kadinger cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Macs crashing w/ photoshop In-Reply-To: <34A086DC.6A94A6F5@freeside.elte.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Merry xmas, I am not at work so I am limited in info, but: Mac OS8 Photoshop? latest version. I am in no way a Mac person so I can't answer too specifically regarding Mac questions; however, whenever they are connected to my development server (linux 2.0.30 running latest netatalk) and attempting to save to a folder on the dev. server, about half the time they lock up. I doubt they have ever been patient enough to wait it out. I will ask them to. I did have them install something sent to me from someone on the list but haven't heard back if it helped or not. If they save to a folder or desktop, then copy all the files on to the dev. server it is fine. Go figure? Patrick Scott Pierce pspierce@mindspring.com CGI Programming Mindspring Enterprises On Wed, 24 Dec 1997, Andras Kadinger wrote: > Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 04:51:56 +0100 > From: Andras Kadinger > To: Patrick Scott Pierce > Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Macs crashing w/ photoshop > > Dear Patrick, > > At first, Merry Christmas! > > Patrick Scott Pierce wrote: > > I have five macs utilizing file sharing through a linux box using > > netatalk. Whenever someone attempts to save a photoshop file directly to > > a mount their mac crashes. > > Please, indicate versions of the software involved. What do You mean by > 'directly to a mount' please? What about finder copies? Some people > experience occasional pauses in network activity on their Macintoshes > with some versions of the System software - wait and see, if the > Macintosh 'wakes up' after, let's say 2-3 minutes. > Is the problem really limited to Photoshop? > > Sincerely, > Andras Kadinger > bandit@freeside.elte.hu > > PS: I encourage You to respond to my message on the list. > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 23 23:27:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id XAA07213; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:27:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id XAA07187; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:27:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA02948; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:27:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA02945 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:27:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (freeside.elte.hu [157.181.74.105]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA02941 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:27:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeside.elte.hu (root@dialin.lettera.hu [194.88.38.130]) by freeside.elte.hu (8.8.5/8.7.1/slapic) with ESMTP id FAA28602 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 1997 05:27:21 +0100 Message-ID: <34A08EBA.92D25B5D@freeside.elte.hu> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 05:25:30 +0100 From: Andras Kadinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" Subject: [netatalk-admins] (Fast) Ethernet speed survey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Dear netatalk users, I am considering to switch to 100Mbit Ethernet (in fact, I've done a couple of tests already), and would like to know, what speeds are, are not, and should be possible. I am mainly interested in Linux/intel [someone please supply me the linux/atalk list address], but we also have other (off-topic) commercial solutions, which I would like to be faster than if possible. I kindly ask the gathered publicum here, to provide me with rumors, assumptions, estimations, test/benchmark results, etc.; in case of popular demand, I am willing to compile and repost the (privately) received benchmark results. (10Mbit and non-netatalk results are also welcome.) Do you think, it is really worth to buy e.g. Asante's PCI Fast Ethernet adapters, where there exist inexpensive PC ones for the fraction of the price, using the same Tulip chipset; I suppose the driver software must be faster and faster as the price increases - I can't think of any notable hardware differences. Thank You in advance. Sincerely, Andras Kadinger bandit@freeside.elte.hu From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 24 22:25:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id WAA09605; Wed, 24 Dec 1997 22:25:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id WAA09601; Wed, 24 Dec 1997 22:25:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id WAA15558; Wed, 24 Dec 1997 22:26:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id WAA15556 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 24 Dec 1997 22:26:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id WAA15548 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 1997 22:26:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt1-38.HiWAAY.net [208.147.147.38]) by fly.HiWAAY.net (8.8.7/8.8.6) with ESMTP id VAA01479; Wed, 24 Dec 1997 21:25:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA02266; Wed, 24 Dec 1997 18:46:54 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199712250046.SAA02266@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Andras Kadinger cc: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" From: David Kelly Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] (Fast) Ethernet speed survey In-reply-to: Message from Andras Kadinger of "Wed, 24 Dec 1997 05:25:30 +0100." <34A08EBA.92D25B5D@freeside.elte.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 18:46:54 -0600 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Do you think, it is really worth to buy e.g. Asante's PCI Fast Ethernet > adapters, where there exist inexpensive PC ones for the fraction of the > price, using the same Tulip chipset; I suppose the driver software must > be faster and faster as the price increases - I can't think of any > notable hardware differences. Z'nyx and Kingston also offer DEC based PCI ethernet cards. At least Z'nyx, probably others also support the same card in Macs. No changes to the card. The DEC 21X4X "Tulip" based cards were once highly recommended by the FreeBSD gurus. Now the current favorite is the Intel 10/100B. http://www.cdrom.com/ is connected with only one of the Intel cards, supports 2750 simultaineous users. And last time I heard a new record had been set of 231,879,944,507 bytes served in 24 hours (Nov 2, 1997). If I understand the current preference of Intel over DEC is due to less restrictions on DMA for the Intel card. While the DEC DMA's into memory, often (maybe never) its not the exact final resting place for the data so it has to be copied again. The Intel card is apparently able to DMA directly into the waiting data buffer. Maybe not always, but more often than the DEC. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Dec 28 08:47:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA01827; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 08:47:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA01823; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 08:47:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA27638; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 08:47:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id IAA27636 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 08:47:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from kent.ansto.gov.au (kent.ansto.gov.au [137.157.45.204]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id IAA27632 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 08:47:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (from frank@localhost) by kent.ansto.gov.au (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id AAA24236; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 00:47:00 +1100 Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 00:47:00 +1100 From: frank@kent.ansto.gov.au (Frank Crawford) Message-Id: <9712290047.ZM24235@kent.ansto.gov.au> Reply-To: frank@ansto.gov.au X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Talking to HP Deckjet printer Cc: frank@kent.ansto.gov.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I'm running Netatalk 1.4b2 on Linux 2.0.33 (bits) talking to a PowerMac (jc) running MacOS 8, printing from the Mac to Linux and file sharing works okay, but I can't seem to print from the Linux box to the printer connected to the Mac. The printer is a HP DeskJet 850C, connected to the printer/appletalk port and running the latest HP Deskjet 8000 Printer Driver. It works fine from the Mac. It appears that the HP driver doesn't support PAP or any other network accesses on the Mac. So does anyone have any suggestions of how to access this printer? The choices I see are to: a) Allow connections to a HP printer, b) To enable the option to allow PAP to connect (but how do you do this?), or c) Put something else in place (I've tried lpdaemon3.4, but it also can't seem to find the printer, although I may have the SERIAL options wrong for the printer port). Frank -- Frank Crawford Email: frank@ansto.gov.au Postal: PMB 1 Site Systems Manager Phone: +61 2 9717 3015 Menai NSW 2234 ANSTO Fax: +61 2 9717 9273 Australia PGP Fingerprint: (8BB1C821) 06 4F 35 82 1D D6 0E 56 9F AB B8 F7 67 AF 1A 9D From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Dec 28 11:59:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id LAA03978; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 11:59:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id LAA03972; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 11:59:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA07304; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 11:59:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id LAA07300 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 11:59:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from maild.telia.com (maild.telia.com [194.22.190.3]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id LAA07294 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 11:59:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from d1o21.telia.com (root@d1o21.telia.com [195.198.153.241]) by maild.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06219; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 17:59:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from SAFIR (t5o21p44.telia.com [195.198.154.44]) by d1o21.telia.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA04598; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 17:59:12 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199712281659.RAA04598@d1o21.telia.com> From: "Joakim Ahlen" Organization: Chalmers University Of Technology To: "netatalk-admins@umich.edu" , Andras Kadinger Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 18:00:42 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] (Fast) Ethernet speed survey Reply-to: d97ahjo@ios.chalmers.se In-reply-to: <34A08EBA.92D25B5D@freeside.elte.hu> Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > I am considering to switch to 100Mbit Ethernet (in fact, I've done a > couple of tests already), and would like to know, what speeds are, are > not, and should be possible. If you are not willing to run asun's appleshareip implementation with netatalk, it is a complete waste to upgrade to 100Mbit. However, you do gain some performance, from about 500K/sec to 900K/sec in my case. If you use the netatalk+asun version of netatalk, you can get an incredible performance boost. I've made the following table, all based on files copied from a server with P150, netatalk+asun17, 3com 3c595 Vortex, and with only one single client connected at each time. I used a lantest program to check the speed. (I don't remember which one) Client NIC PMac 9600/200MP AsanteFast 100Mbit 3300K/sec PMac 8500/150 Dayna Bluestreak 100Mbit 2500K/sec PMac 7500/120 Dayna Bluestreak 100Mbit 2400K/sec PMac 6600/66 Farallon 100Mbit (Nubus) 1300K/sec PMac 6100/60 Farallon 100Mbit (Nubus) 900K/sec The hub used between all of the above is a 3com 100Mbit 12 port. These speeds are the actual speeds i get when i copy files to/from the server too. //Jocke Joakim Ahlen MediaPrint, Uddevalla AB Fax: +46 522 19276 Email: joakim.ahlen@mediaprint.se From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Dec 28 13:48:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA06026; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 13:48:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA06022; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 13:48:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id NAA12270; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 13:49:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id NAA12268 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 13:49:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA12264 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 13:49:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id KAA110242; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 10:47:11 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 10:47:10 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: frank@ansto.gov.au cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, frank@kent.ansto.gov.au Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Talking to HP Deckjet printer In-Reply-To: <9712290047.ZM24235@kent.ansto.gov.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Frank Crawford wrote: > I'm running Netatalk 1.4b2 on Linux 2.0.33 (bits) talking to a PowerMac > (jc) running MacOS 8, printing from the Mac to Linux and file sharing > works okay, but I can't seem to print from the Linux box to the printer > connected to the Mac. The printer is a HP DeskJet 850C, connected to > the printer/appletalk port and running the latest HP Deskjet 8000 > Printer Driver. It works fine from the Mac. > > It appears that the HP driver doesn't support PAP or any other network > accesses on the Mac. DeskWriters connect either directly, as you seem to be doing, or via LocalTalk. If you are using a serial cable to the mac, then the printer is in direct-connect mode. It won't support PAP in this case. So your choices are either to run LocalTalk, or to run a program on the mac to make the printer visable on the net. You mentioned lpdaemon (sp?). Try playing with it. Though be careful if the program talks directly to the printer, as it's not a postscript printer. You'll need to run Ghostscript somewhere if you want to print Postscript to it. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Dec 28 21:32:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id VAA12638; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 21:32:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id VAA12630; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 21:32:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id VAA11934; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 21:33:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id VAA11932 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 21:33:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailc.telia.com (mailc.telia.com [194.22.190.4]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id VAA11928 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 21:33:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from d1o62.telia.com (root@d1o62.telia.com [195.198.198.241]) by mailc.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA12401; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 03:30:35 +0100 (MET) Received: from partitur.se (t7o62p32.telia.com [195.198.199.152]) by d1o62.telia.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA18900; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 03:30:19 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <34A70B24.1615705C@partitur.se> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 03:29:56 +0100 From: Palle Girgensohn Organization: Partitur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Studenmund CC: frank@ansto.gov.au, netatalk-admins@umich.edu, frank@kent.ansto.gov.au Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Talking to HP Deckjet printer References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi, It should be possible to connect the printer to linux via the parallell port and let netatalk hand it out on AppleTalk. One can either share it as a postscript printer (LaserWriter) and use ghostscript to generate HP PCL, or (this is what I want, but never had time to set up) you should be able to share it as a HP DeskJet 850C by setting the right "type" in AppleTalk. See this example: > npblkup ... Not:SNMP Agent 65281.129:8 Not:LaserWriter 65281.129:158 Not:LaserJet 4 65281.129:158 ... My printer (a HP LaserJet 4, w/ ethernet and postscript built-in) is called Not. It presents itself as a LaserWriter, and as a LaserJet 4. The mac knows this printer is a Postscript printer and talks postscript with it. Now, the mac chooser drivers for the deskjet has a serial version and an AppleTalk version. This doesn't have to be LocalTalk, just as long as the protocol is AppleTalk. The Chooser driver doesn't care about the cable type. Ethernet is fine. So, it should somehow be possible to "cheat" the mac that your deskjet is on your AppleTalk network. My guess is that it's enough to set the correct name, but I haven't tried it. If you are willing to inestigate it further, try checking how the printer presents itself in AppleTalk, for example by using a "mac version" oc nbplkup, LanSatellite (available from info-mac i.e. ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/mac/info-mac/ Also, I'm pretty sure some of out there in this list have this setup running? Please let us know. Regards, palle Bill Studenmund wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Frank Crawford wrote: > > > I'm running Netatalk 1.4b2 on Linux 2.0.33 (bits) talking to a PowerMac > > (jc) running MacOS 8, printing from the Mac to Linux and file sharing > > works okay, but I can't seem to print from the Linux box to the printer > > connected to the Mac. The printer is a HP DeskJet 850C, connected to > > the printer/appletalk port and running the latest HP Deskjet 8000 > > Printer Driver. It works fine from the Mac. > > > > It appears that the HP driver doesn't support PAP or any other network > > accesses on the Mac. > > DeskWriters connect either directly, as you seem to be doing, or via > LocalTalk. If you are using a serial cable to the mac, then the printer is > in direct-connect mode. It won't support PAP in this case. > > So your choices are either to run LocalTalk, or to run a program on the > mac to make the printer visable on the net. You mentioned lpdaemon (sp?). > Try playing with it. Though be careful if the program talks directly to > the printer, as it's not a postscript printer. You'll need to run > Ghostscript somewhere if you want to print Postscript to it. > > Take care, > > Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Sun Dec 28 23:17:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id XAA14713; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 23:17:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id XAA14707; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 23:17:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA06187; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 23:17:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA06185 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 23:17:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA06181 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 23:17:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id UAA109711; Sun, 28 Dec 1997 20:17:33 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 20:17:33 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: Palle Girgensohn cc: frank@ansto.gov.au, netatalk-admins@umich.edu, frank@kent.ansto.gov.au Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Talking to HP Deckjet printer In-Reply-To: <34A70B24.1615705C@partitur.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Palle Girgensohn wrote: > Hi, Hello, > you should > be able to share it as a HP DeskJet 850C by setting the right "type" in > AppleTalk. [snip how LaserJets show up as LaserWriters] > Now, the mac chooser drivers for the deskjet has a serial version and an > AppleTalk version. This doesn't have to be LocalTalk, just as long as > the protocol is AppleTalk. The Chooser driver doesn't care about the > cable type. Ethernet is fine. So, it should somehow be possible to > "cheat" the mac that your deskjet is on your AppleTalk network. My guess > is that it's enough to set the correct name, but I haven't tried it. If > you are willing to inestigate it further, try checking how the printer > presents itself in AppleTalk. In my experiments, I found it definitly shows up as a DeskWriter. I think it even was a DeskWriter870, but that detail's at work. I seem to recal, though, that someone tried, and it didn't work. The papd server gets recognized by the Mac driver, but it doesn't talk back right. Or that's what I recall. Given how the printers report status when hooked up serially (a heartbeat character every 2 seconds), I wouldn't doubt that HP has its own way for the printer to report status. papd would need to imitate this for printing to work. > Also, I'm pretty sure some of out there in this list have this setup > running? Please let us know. Yes. I'd love to be provem wrong on this count! Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 29 15:11:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA18033; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 15:11:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA18026; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 15:11:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA13712; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 15:12:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA13710 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 15:12:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from solist. (solist.partitur.se [193.219.246.204]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id PAA13705 for ; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 15:12:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from partitur.se by solist. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA03776; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:45:36 +0100 Message-ID: <34A7FDE0.5F91C970@partitur.se> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:45:36 +0100 From: Palle Girgensohn Organization: Partitur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] iso filnames? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi! Has anybody done any work to get netatalk to translate filenames to iso characters instead of the default :nn hexadecimal representation? This would help us a lot, since we use both macs and windows machines, as well as unix workstations. For windows, we use use Samba w/ "character set = iso8859-1". Is there something similar for the mac? Any ideas where in the code this conversion happens? You may think that this is not important, but asking a Swede not to use å, ä and ö is like asking an American not to use a, q and j in filenames. It just won't work. ;-) WindowsNT does this smoothly, and I'd really like to see netatalk/unix compare to it. Thanks Palle From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 29 17:27:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA20094; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 17:27:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA20090; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 17:26:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA02832; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 17:27:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id RAA02830 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 17:27:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from maila.telia.com (maila.telia.com [194.236.189.1]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA02825 for ; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 17:27:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from d1o21.telia.com (root@d1o21.telia.com [195.198.153.241]) by maila.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA10977; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 23:26:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from SAFIR (t4o21p37.telia.com [195.198.153.217]) by d1o21.telia.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA08515; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 23:26:21 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199712292226.XAA08515@d1o21.telia.com> From: "Joakim Ahlen" Organization: Chalmers University Of Technology To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu, Palle Girgensohn Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 23:27:53 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] iso filnames? Reply-to: d97ahjo@ios.chalmers.se In-reply-to: <34A7FDE0.5F91C970@partitur.se> Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu > Has anybody done any work to get netatalk to translate filenames to iso > characters instead of the default :nn hexadecimal representation? This > would help us a lot, since we use both macs and windows machines, as > well as unix workstations. For windows, we use use Samba w/ "character > set =3D iso8859-1". Is there something similar for the mac? Any ideas > where in the code this conversion happens? Hi Palle, as a fellow swede i've struggled with this problem too. My problem was that our backup on our NT-machine, running over samba taking backup of the files on our unix, couldn't take backup of files with ':' in the filename. I poked around in the netatalk code and found a way to change the colon into a percent-sign, so that i file could look like "Sp%85r" instead of "Sp:85r". It worked fine, only trouble with that, was that i couldn't get netatalk to read both files with % and : in them, and I didn't want to remake the entire filesystem and changing the name of all files - just too risky. I can find out which functions in the netatalk-code i edited, and you can try and fix them up for use with 8859-1. I'm a lousy C-programmer, but if you manage to get some improvements in the code, please keep me posted, ok? Oh, and by the way, Gott nytt =E5r! ;) //Jocke Joakim Ahlen MediaPrint, Uddevalla AB Fax: +46 522 19276 email: joakim.ahlen@mediaprint.se From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 29 18:04:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA20950; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 18:04:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA20944; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 18:04:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA07940; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 18:05:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id SAA07938 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 18:05:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from maild.telia.com (maild.telia.com [194.22.190.3]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA07934 for ; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 18:05:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from d1o62.telia.com (root@d1o62.telia.com [195.198.198.241]) by maild.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA26770; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 00:04:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from partitur.se (t4o62p31.telia.com [195.198.198.211]) by d1o62.telia.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA18510; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 00:04:26 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <34A82C65.C70F7E2E@partitur.se> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 00:04:05 +0100 From: Palle Girgensohn Organization: Partitur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: d97ahjo@ios.chalmers.se CC: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] iso filnames? References: <199712292226.XAA08515@d1o21.telia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Tjenare Joakim! If you can find out which files you edited, I'll be much obliged! Thanks! And Gott nytt =E5r! /palle Joakim Ahlen wrote: > = > > Has anybody done any work to get netatalk to translate filenames to i= so > > characters instead of the default :nn hexadecimal representation? Thi= s > > would help us a lot, since we use both macs and windows machines, as > > well as unix workstations. For windows, we use use Samba w/ "characte= r > > set =3D iso8859-1". Is there something similar for the mac? Any ideas= > > where in the code this conversion happens? > = > Hi Palle, as a fellow swede i've struggled with this problem too. My > problem was that our backup on our NT-machine, running over samba > taking backup of the files on our unix, couldn't take backup of > files with ':' in the filename. I poked around in the netatalk > code and found a way to change the colon into a percent-sign, so that > i file could look like "Sp%85r" instead of "Sp:85r". It worked > fine, only trouble with that, was that i couldn't get netatalk to > read both files with % and : in them, and I didn't want to remake > the entire filesystem and changing the name of all files - just too > risky. > = > I can find out which functions in the netatalk-code i edited, and you > can try and fix them up for use with 8859-1. I'm a lousy > C-programmer, but if you manage to get some improvements in the code, > please keep me posted, ok? > = > Oh, and by the way, Gott nytt =E5r! ;) > = > //Jocke > = > Joakim Ahlen > MediaPrint, Uddevalla AB > Fax: +46 522 19276 > email: joakim.ahlen@mediaprint.se From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 29 18:56:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA23836; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 18:56:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA23832; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 18:56:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA24978; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 18:56:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA24974 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 18:56:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from maild.telia.com (maild.telia.com [194.22.190.3]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA24970 for ; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 18:56:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from d1o62.telia.com (root@d1o62.telia.com [195.198.198.241]) by maild.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA04531; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 00:56:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from partitur.se (t2o62p44.telia.com [195.198.198.104]) by d1o62.telia.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA01806; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 00:56:33 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <34A83892.15B36ADE@partitur.se> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 00:56:02 +0100 From: Palle Girgensohn Organization: Partitur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: d97ahjo@ios.chalmers.se, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] iso filnames? References: <199712292226.XAA08515@d1o21.telia.com> <34A82C65.C70F7E2E@partitur.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello again! > If you can find out which files you edited, I'll be much obliged! > Thanks! found them: etc/afpd/desktop.c I guess... mtoupath and utompath seem to contain all that's necessary (i *think*). So, now it's just to decide how to convert the special cases: / : starting dot and characters not existing in both character sets. Any suggestions? /palle From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 29 19:55:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA25006; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 19:55:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA25002; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 19:54:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id TAA20626; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 19:55:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id TAA20624 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 19:55:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from macro.stanford.edu (macro.Stanford.EDU [36.59.0.131]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id TAA20620 for ; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 19:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from skippy@localhost) by macro.stanford.edu (8.8.2/8.7.1) id QAA111439; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 16:55:10 -0800 Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 16:55:10 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Studenmund To: Palle Girgensohn cc: d97ahjo@ios.chalmers.se, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] iso filnames? In-Reply-To: <34A83892.15B36ADE@partitur.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 30 Dec 1997, Palle Girgensohn wrote: > Hello again! > > > If you can find out which files you edited, I'll be much obliged! > > Thanks! > > found them: > > etc/afpd/desktop.c I guess... mtoupath and utompath seem to contain all > that's necessary (i *think*). > > So, now it's just to decide how to convert the special cases: / : > starting dot and characters not existing in both character sets. Any > suggestions? Are we talking about characters which are normally valid for both MacOS and Windows (though with different codes)? I thought there are already features in samba and netatalk (samba I think) to generate and parse file names which they both can understand. Take care, Bill From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 29 20:27:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA26122; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:27:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id UAA26118; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:27:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id UAA23482; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:28:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id UAA23475 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:28:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from bunker.noc.telalink.net (bunker.noc.telalink.net [207.152.9.69]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA23469 for ; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:28:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (rmc@localhost) by bunker.noc.telalink.net (MTA-v3.8/10.00) with SMTP id TAA21948 for ; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 19:27:47 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: bunker.noc.telalink.net: rmc owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 19:27:46 -0600 (CST) From: Bob Collie X-Sender: rmc@bunker Reply-To: Bob Collie To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Printing from Solaris 2.5.1 Message-ID: X-Mailer: BobMail 1.0 (based on Pine 3.95) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu I've configured printing via pap from a Linux box to an ethernet-attached AppleTalk printer, however, Solaris seems to be an entirely different beast. Without the /etc/printcap file, and the clumbsiness of the admintool interface to add printers, I'm not exactly sure how to specify the spool directory, the input and output filters, etc, to get this working. Anyone who might have a brief tutorial on how to print via lpr (and then in turn via pap) on a Solaris 2.5.1 box (sun4m) and would be willing to help out a friend in need, I would greatly appreciate it! -Bob -- Bob Collie, VP/Chief Technical Officer, Telalink Corporation mailto:bob.collie@telalink.net From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 29 20:41:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id UAA26742; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:41:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id UAA26737; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:40:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA06210; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:40:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id UAA06208 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:40:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from maila.telia.com (maila.telia.com [194.236.189.1]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id UAA06204 for ; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:40:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from d1o62.telia.com (root@d1o62.telia.com [195.198.198.241]) by maila.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07147; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 02:40:48 +0100 (MET) Received: from partitur.se (t3o62p53.telia.com [195.198.198.173]) by d1o62.telia.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA17447; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 02:40:46 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <34A850FF.89FD8BCF@partitur.se> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 02:40:15 +0100 From: Palle Girgensohn Organization: Partitur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Studenmund CC: d97ahjo@ios.chalmers.se, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] iso filnames? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi Bill, Bill Studenmund wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Dec 1997, Palle Girgensohn wrote: > > > Hello again! > > > > > If you can find out which files you edited, I'll be much obliged! > > > Thanks! > > > > found them: > > > > etc/afpd/desktop.c I guess... mtoupath and utompath seem to contain all > > that's necessary (i *think*). > > > > So, now it's just to decide how to convert the special cases: / : > > starting dot and characters not existing in both character sets. Any > > suggestions? > > Are we talking about characters which are normally valid for both MacOS > and Windows (though with different codes)? No. I think the chars like (tm) that are not in the iso set. Below is a snippet of code from cap, the other free unix appleshare package, that has macroman<->iso8859-1 support. It's a pair of tables for translating between the two charsets. > > I thought there are already features in samba and netatalk (samba I think) > to generate and parse file names which they both can understand. I don't think so, but please prove me wrong; I'll save some work :). Samba defaults to using the DOS charset, but it can be configed to use iso-latin-1 by specifying "character set iso8859-1" in the smb.conf file. Netatalk translates non-ascii characters to ":xx", where xx is the hexadecimal representation of the character in the MacRoman charset. I checked the netatalk c code in etc/afpd/desktop.c (funcs mtoupath and utompath), and this is the only way it is programmed; there are no alternatives as of now. Now, the snippet: /* * Table for translating Macintosh characters 0x80-0xff to ISO * (Macintosh characters 0x00-0x7f map directly to ISO equivalent). * * The top half of the table contains 0x00 in positions where * no reversible character mapping exists, the bottom half of * the table contains a reversible mapping for text translation. ermm, it seemes to be the other way around? bottom half contains zeroes. /palle * */ u_char Mac2ISO[256] = { 0xC4, 0xC5, 0xC7, 0xC9, 0xD1, 0xD6, 0xDC, 0xE1, /* 80 - 87 */ 0xE0, 0xE2, 0xE4, 0xE3, 0xE5, 0xE7, 0xE9, 0xE8, /* 88 - 8F */ 0xEA, 0xEB, 0xED, 0xEC, 0xEE, 0xEF, 0xF1, 0xF3, /* 90 - 97 */ 0xF2, 0xF4, 0xF6, 0xF5, 0xFA, 0xF9, 0xFB, 0xFC, /* 98 - 9F */ 0x84, 0xB0, 0xA2, 0xA3, 0xA7, 0xB7, 0xB6, 0xDF, /* A0 - A7 */ 0xAE, 0xA9, 0x85, 0xB4, 0xA8, 0xAD, 0xC6, 0xD8, /* A8 - AF */ 0x86, 0xB1, 0xB2, 0xB3, 0xA5, 0xB5, 0x87, 0x88, /* B0 - B7 */ 0xBC, 0xB9, 0xBE, 0xAA, 0xBA, 0xBD, 0xE6, 0xF8, /* B8 - BF */ 0xBF, 0xA1, 0xAC, 0x89, 0x8A, 0x8B, 0x8C, 0xAB, /* C0 - C7 */ 0xBB, 0x8D, 0xA0, 0xC0, 0xC3, 0xD5, 0x8E, 0x8F, /* C8 - CF */ 0xD0, 0x90, 0x91, 0x92, 0x93, 0x94, 0xF7, 0xD7, /* D0 - D7 */ 0xFF, 0xDD, 0x2F, 0xA4, 0x3C, 0x3E, 0xDE, 0x95, /* D8 - DF */ 0x96, 0x97, 0x98, 0x99, 0x9A, 0xC2, 0xCA, 0xC1, /* E0 - E7 */ 0xCB, 0xC8, 0xCD, 0xCE, 0xCF, 0xCC, 0xD3, 0xD4, /* E8 - EF */ 0xF0, 0xD2, 0xDA, 0xDB, 0xD9, 0x9B, 0x5E, 0x7E, /* F0 - F7 */ 0xAF, 0x9C, 0x9D, 0x9E, 0xB8, 0xFD, 0xFE, 0x9F, /* F8 - FF */ 0xC4, 0xC5, 0xC7, 0xC9, 0xD1, 0xD6, 0xDC, 0xE1, /* 80 - 87 */ 0xE0, 0xE2, 0xE4, 0xE3, 0xE5, 0xE7, 0xE9, 0xE8, /* 88 - 8F */ 0xEA, 0xEB, 0xED, 0xEC, 0xEE, 0xEF, 0xF1, 0xF3, /* 90 - 97 */ 0xF2, 0xF4, 0xF6, 0xF5, 0xFA, 0xF9, 0xFB, 0xFC, /* 98 - 9F */ 0x00, 0xB0, 0xA2, 0xA3, 0xA7, 0xB7, 0xB6, 0xDF, /* A0 - A7 */ 0xAE, 0xA9, 0x00, 0xB4, 0xA8, 0x00, 0xC6, 0xD8, /* A8 - AF */ 0x00, 0xB1, 0x00, 0x00, 0xA5, 0xB5, 0x00, 0x00, /* B0 - B7 */ 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0xAA, 0xBA, 0x00, 0xE6, 0xF8, /* B8 - BF */ 0xBF, 0xA1, 0xAC, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0xAB, /* C0 - C7 */ 0xBB, 0x00, 0xA0, 0xC0, 0xC3, 0xD5, 0x00, 0x00, /* C8 - CF */ 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0xF7, 0x00, /* D0 - D7 */ 0xFF, 0x00, 0x2F, 0xA4, 0x3C, 0x3E, 0x00, 0x00, /* D8 - DF */ 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0xC2, 0xCA, 0xC1, /* E0 - E7 */ 0xCB, 0xC8, 0xCD, 0xCE, 0xCF, 0xCC, 0xD3, 0xD4, /* E8 - EF */ 0x00, 0xD2, 0xDA, 0xDB, 0xD9, 0x00, 0x5E, 0x7E, /* F0 - F7 */ 0xAF, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0xB8, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00 /* F8 - FF */ }; /* * Table for translating ISO characters 0x80-0xff to Macintosh * (ISO characters 0x00-0x7f map directly to Macintosh equivalent). * * The top half of the table contains 0x00 in positions where * no reversible character mapping exists, the bottom half of * the table contains a reversible mapping for text translation. * */ u_char ISO2Mac[256] = { 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0xA0, 0xAA, 0xB0, 0xB6, /* 80 - 87 */ 0xB7, 0xC3, 0xC4, 0xC5, 0xC6, 0xC9, 0xCE, 0xCF, /* 88 - 8F */ 0xD1, 0xD2, 0xD3, 0xD4, 0xD5, 0xDF, 0xE0, 0xE1, /* 90 - 97 */ 0xE2, 0xE3, 0xE4, 0xF5, 0xF9, 0xFA, 0xFB, 0xFF, /* 98 - 9F */ 0xCA, 0xC1, 0xA2, 0xA3, 0xDB, 0xB4, 0x7C, 0xA4, /* A0 - A7 */ 0xAC, 0xA9, 0xBB, 0xC7, 0xC2, 0xAD, 0xA8, 0xF8, /* A8 - AF */ 0xA1, 0xB1, 0xB2, 0xB3, 0xAB, 0xB5, 0xA6, 0xA5, /* B0 - B7 */ 0xFC, 0xB9, 0xBC, 0xC8, 0xB8, 0xBD, 0xBA, 0xC0, /* B8 - BF */ 0xCB, 0xE7, 0xE5, 0xCC, 0x80, 0x81, 0xAE, 0x82, /* C0 - C7 */ 0xE9, 0x83, 0xE6, 0xE8, 0xED, 0xEA, 0xEB, 0xEC, /* C8 - CF */ 0xD0, 0x84, 0xF1, 0xEE, 0xEF, 0xCD, 0x85, 0xD7, /* D0 - D7 */ 0xAF, 0xF4, 0xF2, 0xF3, 0x86, 0xD9, 0xDE, 0xA7, /* D8 - DF */ 0x88, 0x87, 0x89, 0x8B, 0x8A, 0x8C, 0xBE, 0x8D, /* E0 - E7 */ 0x8F, 0x8E, 0x90, 0x91, 0x93, 0x92, 0x94, 0x95, /* E8 - EF */ 0xF0, 0x96, 0x98, 0x97, 0x99, 0x9B, 0x9A, 0xD6, /* F0 - F7 */ 0xBF, 0x9D, 0x9C, 0x9E, 0x9F, 0xFD, 0xFE, 0xD8, /* F8 - FF */ 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, /* 80 - 87 */ 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, /* 88 - 8F */ 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, /* 90 - 97 */ 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, /* 98 - 9F */ 0xCA, 0xC1, 0xA2, 0xA3, 0xDB, 0xB4, 0x7C, 0xA4, /* A0 - A7 */ 0xAC, 0xA9, 0xBB, 0xC7, 0xC2, 0x00, 0xA8, 0xF8, /* A8 - AF */ 0xA1, 0xB1, 0x00, 0x00, 0xAB, 0xB5, 0xA6, 0xA5, /* B0 - B7 */ 0xFC, 0x00, 0xBC, 0xC8, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0xC0, /* B8 - BF */ 0xCB, 0xE7, 0xE5, 0xCC, 0x80, 0x81, 0xAE, 0x82, /* C0 - C7 */ 0xE9, 0x83, 0xE6, 0xE8, 0xED, 0xEA, 0xEB, 0xEC, /* C8 - CF */ 0x00, 0x84, 0xF1, 0xEE, 0xEF, 0xCD, 0x85, 0x00, /* D0 - D7 */ 0xAF, 0xF4, 0xF2, 0xF3, 0x86, 0x00, 0x00, 0xA7, /* D8 - DF */ 0x88, 0x87, 0x89, 0x8B, 0x8A, 0x8C, 0xBE, 0x8D, /* E0 - E7 */ 0x8F, 0x8E, 0x90, 0x91, 0x93, 0x92, 0x94, 0x95, /* E8 - EF */ 0x00, 0x96, 0x98, 0x97, 0x99, 0x9B, 0x9A, 0xD6, /* F0 - F7 */ 0xBF, 0x9D, 0x9C, 0x9E, 0x9F, 0x00, 0x00, 0xD8 /* F8 - FF */ }; Regards, Palle From owner-netatalk-admins Mon Dec 29 23:00:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id XAA28696; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 23:00:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id XAA28671; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 23:00:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA25313; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 23:00:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id XAA25309 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 23:00:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpo.whistle.com ([207.76.204.38]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id XAA25298 for ; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 23:00:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA23665; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 19:54:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from UNKNOWN(), claiming to be "current1.whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd023663; Mon Dec 29 19:54:13 1997 Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 19:51:14 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: Palle Girgensohn cc: d97ahjo@ios.chalmers.se, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] iso filnames? In-Reply-To: <34A82C65.C70F7E2E@partitur.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Whistle (www.whistle.com) added ISO code support for=20 netatalk and SAMBA so that our products (in Norway actually) can exchange files between PCs and MACs and see the same name on both. As teh SAMBA co-ordinator works for us teh samba patches ar enow part of the mainstream samba, but teh netatalk patches are not yet integrated. send me email if you want the changes (relative to 1.4b2(approx)) I may need some days to get them together however. as everyone is away for holidays. The advantage with these patches is that they interact perfectly with teh samba codepages of the same name :) julian On Tue, 30 Dec 1997, Palle Girgensohn wrote: > Tjenare Joakim! >=20 > If you can find out which files you edited, I'll be much obliged! > Thanks! >=20 > And Gott nytt =E5r! >=20 > /palle >=20 > Joakim Ahlen wrote: > >=20 > > > Has anybody done any work to get netatalk to translate filenames to i= so > > > characters instead of the default :nn hexadecimal representation? Thi= s > > > would help us a lot, since we use both macs and windows machines, as > > > well as unix workstations. For windows, we use use Samba w/ "characte= r > > > set =3D iso8859-1". Is there something similar for the mac? Any ideas > > > where in the code this conversion happens? > >=20 > > Hi Palle, as a fellow swede i've struggled with this problem too. My > > problem was that our backup on our NT-machine, running over samba > > taking backup of the files on our unix, couldn't take backup of > > files with ':' in the filename. I poked around in the netatalk > > code and found a way to change the colon into a percent-sign, so that > > i file could look like "Sp%85r" instead of "Sp:85r". It worked > > fine, only trouble with that, was that i couldn't get netatalk to > > read both files with % and : in them, and I didn't want to remake > > the entire filesystem and changing the name of all files - just too > > risky. > >=20 > > I can find out which functions in the netatalk-code i edited, and you > > can try and fix them up for use with 8859-1. I'm a lousy > > C-programmer, but if you manage to get some improvements in the code, > > please keep me posted, ok? > >=20 > > Oh, and by the way, Gott nytt =E5r! ;) > >=20 > > //Jocke > >=20 > > Joakim Ahlen > > MediaPrint, Uddevalla AB > > Fax: +46 522 19276 > > email: joakim.ahlen@mediaprint.se >=20 From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 30 05:25:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id FAA22978; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 05:25:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id FAA22974; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 05:25:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id FAA03533; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 05:26:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id FAA03531 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 05:26:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailb.telia.com (mailb.telia.com [194.22.194.6]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id FAA03527 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 05:26:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from d1o62.telia.com (root@d1o62.telia.com [195.198.198.241]) by mailb.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29907; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 11:25:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from partitur.se (t7o62p33.telia.com [195.198.199.153]) by d1o62.telia.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03937; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 11:25:25 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <34A8CBF4.7FE93558@partitur.se> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 11:24:53 +0100 From: Palle Girgensohn Organization: Partitur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julian Elischer CC: d97ahjo@ios.chalmers.se, netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] iso filnames? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hello Julian, Yes, I would be much obliged. Please send them. I suggest including the patches in the netatalk distribution, BTW. Best regards, and a happy new year! /Palle Julian Elischer wrote: > = > Whistle (www.whistle.com) added ISO code support for > netatalk and SAMBA so that our products (in Norway actually) > can exchange files between PCs and MACs and see the same name on both. > As teh SAMBA co-ordinator works for us teh samba patches ar enow part o= f > the mainstream samba, but teh netatalk patches are not yet integrated. > = > send me email if you want the changes (relative to 1.4b2(approx)) > = > I may need some days to get them together however. as everyone is away = for > holidays. > The advantage with these patches is that they interact perfectly with = teh > samba codepages of the same name :) > = > julian > = > On Tue, 30 Dec 1997, Palle Girgensohn wrote: > = > > Tjenare Joakim! > > > > If you can find out which files you edited, I'll be much obliged! > > Thanks! > > > > And Gott nytt =E5r! > > > > /palle > > > > Joakim Ahlen wrote: > > > > > > > Has anybody done any work to get netatalk to translate filenames = to iso > > > > characters instead of the default :nn hexadecimal representation?= This > > > > would help us a lot, since we use both macs and windows machines,= as > > > > well as unix workstations. For windows, we use use Samba w/ "char= acter > > > > set =3D iso8859-1". Is there something similar for the mac? Any i= deas > > > > where in the code this conversion happens? > > > > > > Hi Palle, as a fellow swede i've struggled with this problem too. M= y > > > problem was that our backup on our NT-machine, running over samba > > > taking backup of the files on our unix, couldn't take backup of > > > files with ':' in the filename. I poked around in the netatalk > > > code and found a way to change the colon into a percent-sign, so th= at > > > i file could look like "Sp%85r" instead of "Sp:85r". It worked > > > fine, only trouble with that, was that i couldn't get netatalk to > > > read both files with % and : in them, and I didn't want to remake > > > the entire filesystem and changing the name of all files - just too= > > > risky. > > > > > > I can find out which functions in the netatalk-code i edited, and y= ou > > > can try and fix them up for use with 8859-1. I'm a lousy > > > C-programmer, but if you manage to get some improvements in the cod= e, > > > please keep me posted, ok? > > > > > > Oh, and by the way, Gott nytt =E5r! ;) > > > > > > //Jocke > > > > > > Joakim Ahlen > > > MediaPrint, Uddevalla AB > > > Fax: +46 522 19276 > > > email: joakim.ahlen@mediaprint.se > > From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 30 06:55:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id GAA24079; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 06:55:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id GAA24075; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 06:55:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA25512; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 06:55:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id GAA25510 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 06:55:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from deis98.deis.unibo.it (deis98.deis.unibo.it [137.204.57.98]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id GAA25368 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 06:52:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from deis.unibo.it (deis176 [137.204.57.176]) by deis98.deis.unibo.it (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA01188 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 12:41:34 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <34A8E0E5.E9F1EF87@deis.unibo.it> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 12:54:18 +0100 From: Gaetano Bellanca Reply-To: gbellanca@deis.unibo.it Organization: D.E.I.S. University of Bologna X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] Moving to OS8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Hi folks I'm going to install MACOS8 on my Macintosh 7300/200. I have my netatalk server on a SUN ULTRA1 (Solaris 2.5.1 and netatalk 1.4b2 (unable to print with Solaris lp ... I must use other lp with printcap if I want to have printing capabilities :( )). What I should install to have this server working (I mean, to have filesystem share active, printing capabilities etc...) correctly with the new OS8? Thanks a lot and Happy New Year to everybody Gaetano -- ___[_____]___ (.) (.) (_) --------------------o00O-------O00o------------------- +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Gaetano Bellanca | | D.E.I.S. - Dipartimento di Elettronica, Informatica e Sistemistica. | | University of Bologna. | | Viale Risorgimento, 2 - 40136 - Bologna - ITALY | | | | Phone : +39 51 6443060 | | Fax : +39 51 6443073 | | | | mailto:gbellanca@deis.unibo.it URL:http://www.deis.unibo.it | | | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 30 17:43:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id RAA05427; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 17:43:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id RAA05423; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 17:43:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA18959; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 17:43:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id RAA18957 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 17:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out1.apple.com (mail-out1.apple.com [17.254.0.52]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id RAA18953 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 17:43:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from scv3.apple.com (A17-128-100-121.apple.com [17.128.100.121]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15198 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 14:41:28 -0800 Received: from [17.221.34.231] (zarzda.apple.com [17.221.34.231]) by scv3.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA24190 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 14:41:26 -0800 Message-Id: <199712302241.OAA24190@scv3.apple.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk+asun benchmark (afp/tcp) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 97 14:42:20 -0800 x-sender: zarzycki@pop.ricochet.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Dave Zarzycki To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu server config: 200MHz PP200/512k L2 Intel Providence MB 64MB EDO ECC memory Seagate ST34371W (4GB UltraWide) 3Com 3c509 (RNS?) 4 port 10/100 DEC tulip 21140 clients: Workgroup Server 9650/350 Workgroup Server 9650/350 PowerMacintosh G3 network config: one client per dec port test software: ThruPut 1.2 results: 134Mb/s questions unanswered: how would a Pentium II do? how would a Alpha do? how would a Sparc do? how would a PowerPC do? would other drivers perform better? How would a SMP system do? davez ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Zarzycki Student Intern San Jose State University Apple Computer, Inc. dzarzyck@email.sjsu.edu zarzycki@apple.com zarzycki@ricochet.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP Fingerprints (RSA): 8AF2 1040 8A9C D025 47BE 70DD A51C C887 DSS/Diffie-Hellman: CB9E 2621 B4BA 3F96 3516 B312 15B4 D842 3809 EF99 Contact pgpkeys.mit.edu for my public keys. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 30 18:13:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id SAA06358; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 18:13:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id SAA06354; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 18:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA01443; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 18:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id SAA01440 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 18:13:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out1.apple.com (mail-out1.apple.com [17.254.0.52]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id SAA01429 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 18:13:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from scv4.apple.com (A17-128-100-142.apple.com [17.128.100.142]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA38740 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 15:13:15 -0800 Received: from [17.221.34.231] (zarzda.apple.com [17.221.34.231]) by scv4.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA06708 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 15:13:14 -0800 Message-Id: <199712302313.PAA06708@scv4.apple.com> Subject: [netatalk-admins] netatalk+asun benchmark (afp/tcp) more info Date: Tue, 30 Dec 97 15:14:08 -0800 x-sender: zarzycki@pop.ricochet.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Dave Zarzycki To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Opps, I forgot to mention that this was READ performance. The hard drive is not fast enough to handle 15MB/s of data. ;-) davez ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Zarzycki Student Intern San Jose State University Apple Computer, Inc. dzarzyck@email.sjsu.edu zarzycki@apple.com zarzycki@ricochet.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP Fingerprints (RSA): 8AF2 1040 8A9C D025 47BE 70DD A51C C887 DSS/Diffie-Hellman: CB9E 2621 B4BA 3F96 3516 B312 15B4 D842 3809 EF99 Contact pgpkeys.mit.edu for my public keys. From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 30 19:10:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA07534; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:10:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA07530; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:10:50 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id TAA09859; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:11:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id TAA09857 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:11:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from kent.ansto.gov.au (kent.ansto.gov.au [137.157.45.204]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with SMTP id TAA09847 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:11:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from frank@localhost) by kent.ansto.gov.au (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA04573; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 11:10:44 +1100 Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 11:10:44 +1100 From: frank@kent.ansto.gov.au (Frank Crawford) Message-Id: <9712311110.ZM4572@kent.ansto.gov.au> Reply-To: frank@ansto.gov.au X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Talking to HP Deckjet printer Cc: frank@kent.ansto.gov.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Bill Studenmund wrote: > On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Palle Girgensohn wrote: > > > Hi, > > Hello, > > > you should > > be able to share it as a HP DeskJet 850C by setting the right "type" in > > AppleTalk. > > [snip how LaserJets show up as LaserWriters] > > > Now, the mac chooser drivers for the deskjet has a serial version and an > > AppleTalk version. This doesn't have to be LocalTalk, just as long as > > the protocol is AppleTalk. The Chooser driver doesn't care about the > > cable type. Ethernet is fine. So, it should somehow be possible to > > "cheat" the mac that your deskjet is on your AppleTalk network. My guess > > is that it's enough to set the correct name, but I haven't tried it. If > > you are willing to inestigate it further, try checking how the printer > > presents itself in AppleTalk. > > In my experiments, I found it definitly shows up as a DeskWriter. I think > it even was a DeskWriter870, but that detail's at work. > > I seem to recal, though, that someone tried, and it didn't work. The papd > server gets recognized by the Mac driver, but it doesn't talk back right. > Or that's what I recall. Given how the printers report status when hooked > up serially (a heartbeat character every 2 seconds), I wouldn't doubt that > HP has its own way for the printer to report status. papd would need to > imitate this for printing to work. Previously I have tried this with a printserver I borrowed from work. I set the type to DeskWriter and the HP driver found it, but whenever I attempted to print to it the Mac hung, so I suspect you are correct. > > Also, I'm pretty sure some of out there in this list have this setup > > running? Please let us know. > > Yes. I'd love to be provem wrong on this count! > > Take care, > > Bill Frank -- Frank Crawford Email: frank@ansto.gov.au Postal: PMB 1 Site Systems Manager Phone: +61 2 9717 3015 Menai NSW 2234 ANSTO Fax: +61 2 9717 9273 Australia PGP Fingerprint: (8BB1C821) 06 4F 35 82 1D D6 0E 56 9F AB B8 F7 67 AF 1A 9D From owner-netatalk-admins Tue Dec 30 19:25:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id TAA08163; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:25:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id TAA08158; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA08266; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:25:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id TAA08259 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:25:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from kent.ansto.gov.au (kent.ansto.gov.au [137.157.45.204]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id TAA08254 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:25:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from frank@localhost) by kent.ansto.gov.au (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) id LAA04647; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 11:25:21 +1100 Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 11:25:21 +1100 From: frank@kent.ansto.gov.au (Frank Crawford) Message-Id: <9712311125.ZM4646@kent.ansto.gov.au> In-Reply-To: Palle Girgensohn "Re: [netatalk-admins] Talking to HP Deckjet printer" (Dec 29, 3:29am) References: <34A70B24.1615705C@partitur.se> Reply-To: frank@ansto.gov.au X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: Palle Girgensohn , Bill Studenmund Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] Talking to HP Deckjet printer Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Palle Girgensohn wrote: > Hi, > > It should be possible to connect the printer to linux via the parallell > port and let netatalk hand it out on AppleTalk. One can either share it > as a postscript printer (LaserWriter) and use ghostscript to generate HP > PCL, or (this is what I want, but never had time to set up) you should > be able to share it as a HP DeskJet 850C by setting the right "type" in > AppleTalk. See this example: ... I've previously done this, i.e. running it as a LaserWriter connected to a Linux box and using ghostscript, and it works well. Unfortunately, my children (who generate most of the colour printouts) want it closer to their Mac, which is located in a different room. So it needs to be either physically connected to the PowerMac or on some sort of print server in their room (but I'm trying to avoid buying one at present). >From some other comments, I guess I need to use lpdaemon, which I have, but I don't know the correct settings for a printer connected to the printer port. I know this is a little outside scope of this list, but can anyone suggest the right settings? The sample config file says (for a serial printer): PRINTER SERIAL [baud stop parity bits] is the spool queue, but is the name of the serial driver, which I don't know, and the "[baud ...]" I wouldn't have thought I needed for the printer port. After all, isn't it a parallel port of some sort. (I come from a Unix and PC background, so I don't know much about the low level stuff of the Mac, it works so I don't normally play with it. :-)) Thanks for all the help so far. Frank -- Frank Crawford Email: frank@ansto.gov.au Postal: PMB 1 Site Systems Manager Phone: +61 2 9717 3015 Menai NSW 2234 ANSTO Fax: +61 2 9717 9273 Australia PGP Fingerprint: (8BB1C821) 06 4F 35 82 1D D6 0E 56 9F AB B8 F7 67 AF 1A 9D From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 31 05:47:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id FAA10677; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 05:47:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id FAA10653; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 05:47:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA23583; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 05:47:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id FAA23581 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 05:47:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from safir.spray.fi (safir.spray.fi [195.10.150.130]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with SMTP id FAA23577 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 05:47:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 28936 invoked by uid 500); 31 Dec 1997 10:47:11 -0000 To: Julian Elischer Cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] iso filnames? References: From: Osma Ahvenlampi Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.95) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 31 Dec 1997 12:47:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: Julian Elischer's message of "Mon, 29 Dec 1997 19:51:14 -0800 (PST)" Message-ID: Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.66/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu Julian Elischer writes: > Whistle (www.whistle.com) added ISO code support for > netatalk and SAMBA so that our products (in Norway actually) > can exchange files between PCs and MACs and see the same name on both. > As teh SAMBA co-ordinator works for us teh samba patches ar enow part of I would also be interested in these patches. Sounds like it would be helpful to many if you could put them on a web page somewhere.. -- Possessor of a mind not merely twisted but actually sprained. Osma Ahvenlampi From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 31 08:08:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id IAA20566; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 08:08:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.42]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id IAA20545; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 08:08:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA29225; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 08:08:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id IAA29223 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 08:08:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-smtp.imaginet.net (alcor.imaginet.fr [194.51.83.171]) by stayhungry.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id IAA29206 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 08:07:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from imaginet.fr (zoltar.imaginet.fr [194.51.83.150]) by relay-smtp.imaginet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29193; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 14:05:01 +0100 (MET) Received: from idnet-local.fr (cyber119-3.paris.imaginet.fr [195.68.3.119]) by imaginet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.31) with ESMTP id OAA07117; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 14:08:22 +0100 (MET) Received: from idnet-local.fr (idnet-local.fr [192.168.1.1]) by idnet-local.fr (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA16290; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 14:12:39 +0100 Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 14:12:38 +0100 (MET) From: Nicolas MONNET X-Sender: nico@idnet-local.fr To: Dave Zarzycki cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk+asun benchmark (afp/tcp) In-Reply-To: <199712302241.OAA24190@scv3.apple.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Tue, 30 Dec 1997, Dave Zarzycki wrote: > server config: > > 200MHz PP200/512k L2 > Intel Providence MB > 64MB EDO ECC memory > Seagate ST34371W (4GB UltraWide) > 3Com 3c509 > (RNS?) 4 port 10/100 DEC tulip 21140 What OS??? [snipped] > test software: ThruPut 1.2 What is it? > results: 134Mb/s Do you have any other thing to compare to? > questions unanswered: > how would a Pentium II do? > how would a Alpha do? > how would a Sparc do? > how would a PowerPC do? > would other drivers perform better? > How would a SMP system do? As for any such benchmarks, the result depend of (in approximate decreasing order of importance): + Ram amount (for caching) + Disk + Scsi card + Network card + Processor/cache -- Nicolas MONNET - Developer, IdeaNet, Paris Tel: +33 1 49 26 98 11 - Fax: +33 1 49 26 09 80 "A nuclear war can ruin your whole day." From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 31 10:45:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id KAA26503; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 10:45:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.36]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id KAA26499; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 10:45:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA29183; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 10:45:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with X.500 id KAA29179 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 10:45:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from rgate.metricom.com (rgate.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by redheat.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/2.2) with ESMTP id KAA29174 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 10:45:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from [204.179.130.46] (mg130-046.ricochet.net [204.179.130.46]) by rgate.metricom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA00549; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 09:49:15 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199712311549.JAA00549@rgate.metricom.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk+asun benchmark (afp/tcp) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 97 07:45:58 -0800 x-sender: zarzycki@pop.ricochet.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Dave Zarzycki To: "Nicolas MONNET" cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On 12/31/97 5:12 AM, Nicolas MONNET (nico@idnet.fr) wrote: >On Tue, 30 Dec 1997, Dave Zarzycki wrote: > >> server config: >> >> 200MHz PP200/512k L2 >> Intel Providence MB >> 64MB EDO ECC memory >> Seagate ST34371W (4GB UltraWide) >> 3Com 3c509 >> (RNS?) 4 port 10/100 DEC tulip 21140 > > What OS??? Linux 2.0.32 RedHat Linux 5.0 The kernel is the available in their Hurricane updates directory. >[snipped] >> test software: ThruPut 1.2 > > What is it? A very simple program that reads and write to files on a mounted volume to measure performance. When I did the test, I picked 4MB files and only to use one of them. That way the file would stay in the cache on the server, and we would spend more of our time transferring bits than negotiating which bits to transfer. >> results: 134Mb/s > > Do you have any other thing to compare to? AppleShareIP 5.0.2 under the same circumstances (with less network cards of course) can/will saturate Fast Ethernet (100Mb/s) come January with new Apple servers. I wish I could say more, but I can't. ( >> questions unanswered: >> how would a Pentium II do? >> how would a Alpha do? >> how would a Sparc do? >> how would a PowerPC do? >> would other drivers perform better? >> How would a SMP system do? > > As for any such benchmarks, the result depend of (in approximate >decreasing order of importance): > > + Ram amount (for caching) > + Disk > + Scsi card > + Network card > + Processor/cache Ah, I would argue differently, unless you are speaking generally for any workstation and not a server. + Server OS (drivers, drivers, and optimization or lack there of. As far as I could tell, the tulip driver needs better optimization.) + Processor/cache (When I was doing the test, most of the time was spent in the system and not user space. I was processor bound when I got the numbers I did.) + RAM (the more of it, the faster the server can do more at once) + Network card (servers spend most of their time pushing bits) Fast Ethernet == 100Mb/s or about 12MB/s Nearly all Ultra Wide SCSI drives today are 10-13MB/s If the data is in the cache/RAM, hard drive speed is irrelevant + Disk (but when the data is not in the cache, it must be fetched from the disk ;-) + SCSI card davez ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Zarzycki Student Intern San Jose State University Apple Computer, Inc. dzarzyck@email.sjsu.edu zarzycki@apple.com zarzycki@ricochet.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP Fingerprints (RSA): 8AF2 1040 8A9C D025 47BE 70DD A51C C887 DSS/Diffie-Hellman: CB9E 2621 B4BA 3F96 3516 B312 15B4 D842 3809 EF99 Contact pgpkeys.mit.edu for my public keys. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 31 12:42:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id MAA28596; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 12:42:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id MAA28592; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 12:42:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA17532; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 12:43:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id MAA17527 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 12:43:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay-smtp.imaginet.net (alcor.imaginet.fr [194.51.83.171]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id MAA17523 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 12:43:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from imaginet.fr (zoltar.imaginet.fr [194.51.83.150]) by relay-smtp.imaginet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05699; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 18:39:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from idnet-local.fr (cyber118-3.paris.imaginet.fr [195.68.3.118]) by imaginet.fr (8.7.5/8.7.31) with ESMTP id SAA06953; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 18:43:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from idnet-local.fr (idnet-local.fr [192.168.1.1]) by idnet-local.fr (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA17463; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 18:47:25 +0100 Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 18:47:25 +0100 (MET) From: Nicolas MONNET X-Sender: nico@idnet-local.fr To: Dave Zarzycki cc: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk+asun benchmark (afp/tcp) In-Reply-To: <199712311549.JAA00549@rgate.metricom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On Wed, 31 Dec 1997, Dave Zarzycki wrote: > > What OS??? > > Linux 2.0.32 > RedHat Linux 5.0 > The kernel is the available in their Hurricane updates directory. > > >[snipped] > >> test software: ThruPut 1.2 > > What is it? > A very simple program that reads and write to files on a mounted volume > to measure performance. When I did the test, I picked 4MB files and only > to use one of them. That way the file would stay in the cache on the > server, and we would spend more of our time transferring bits than > negotiating which bits to transfer. It's always interesting (if not essential) when you're talking benchmarks to know exactly what the program is doing. > >> results: 134Mb/s > > Do you have any other thing to compare to? > > AppleShareIP 5.0.2 under the same circumstances (with less network cards > of course) can/will saturate Fast Ethernet (100Mb/s) come January with > new Apple servers. I wish I could say more, but I can't. ( > > As for any such benchmarks, the result depend of (in approximate > >decreasing order of importance): [snip] > Ah, I would argue differently, unless you are speaking generally for any > workstation and not a server. > > + Server OS (drivers, drivers, and optimization or lack there of. > As far as I could tell, the tulip driver needs better optimization.) Right, but I had Linux in mind, which uses all the ram it has for buffering anyway. > + Processor/cache (When I was doing the test, most of the time was spent > in the system and not user space. I was processor bound when I got > the numbers I did.) Hm, from my experience I can bet that ram is the most important factor. Of course, going from 32 meg to 64 meg makes much more difference than going from 1gig to 2gigs. (As a web server, an old Sun w/ plenty of ram does a good job.) > + RAM (the more of it, the faster the server can do more at once) No. It's all about cache. > + Network card (servers spend most of their time pushing bits) > Fast Ethernet == 100Mb/s or about 12MB/s > Nearly all Ultra Wide SCSI drives today are 10-13MB/s > If the data is in the cache/RAM, hard drive speed is irrelevant If it is. > + Disk (but when the data is not in the cache, it must be fetched from > the disk ;-) > + SCSI card This one was silly in my list. The only interesting point is that a good SCSI will not hog the CPU too much (it will handle most of the work by itself). The same applies for the network adapter. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 31 13:44:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id NAA29944; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 13:44:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id NAA29940; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 13:44:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id NAA26549; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 13:45:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id NAA26547 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 13:45:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-out2.apple.com (mail-out2.apple.com [17.254.0.51]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id NAA26543 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 13:45:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from scv2.apple.com (A17-128-100-140.apple.com [17.128.100.140]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21706; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 10:32:34 -0800 Received: from [17.221.34.231] (zarzda.apple.com [17.221.34.231]) by scv2.apple.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA28766; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 10:32:32 -0800 Message-Id: <199712311832.KAA28766@scv2.apple.com> Subject: Re: [netatalk-admins] netatalk+asun benchmark (afp/tcp) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 97 10:33:29 -0800 x-sender: zarzycki@pop.ricochet.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Dave Zarzycki To: "Nicolas MONNET" cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu On 12/31/97 9:47 AM, Nicolas MONNET (nico@idnet.fr) wrote: <...snip...> >> >> test software: ThruPut 1.2 > >> > What is it? > >> A very simple program that reads and write to files on a mounted volume >> to measure performance. When I did the test, I picked 4MB files and only >> to use one of them. That way the file would stay in the cache on the >> server, and we would spend more of our time transferring bits than >> negotiating which bits to transfer. > > It's always interesting (if not essential) when you're talking >benchmarks to know exactly what the program is doing. Yes, but I was just trying to see how quickly we could push bits out the network adaptor. That is why I made the setup the way I did. I made sure that the files stayed in the (RAM) cache because I had plenty of RAM to hold three 4MB files (one for each client). Therefore hard drives and SCSI are no longer a bottleneck. <...snip...> >> Ah, I would argue differently, unless you are speaking generally for any >> workstation and not a server. >> >> + Server OS (drivers, drivers, and optimization or lack there of. >> As far as I could tell, the tulip driver needs better optimization.) > > Right, but I had Linux in mind, which uses all the ram it has for >buffering anyway. You are correct, but let me reiterate, I was processor bound, therefore the fastest I can go out of this box is 134Mb/s. I can add more RAM to cache more data, and more hard drives to increase disk throughput, but the speed limit will always be there until I upgrade the processor or more importantly, tweak the tulip driver to go faster. Let me explain: 90% of the CPU was being utilized by the system, and the tulip driver obviously had it's hands full by looking at the console. I have several clients here at work that can saturate Fast Ethernet (individually), if the server is fast enough, but the tulip driver couldn't do it (Or Linux couldn't, eek!) I could get only 7-8MB/s per adaptor (not at the same time of course). Therefore, I would conclude that to raise the maximum speed of the server, I would fix the ethernet driver on the server. I guess it's time to turn of profiling in the kernel... >> + Processor/cache (When I was doing the test, most of the time was spent >> in the system and not user space. I was processor bound when I got >> the numbers I did.) > > Hm, from my experience I can bet that ram is the most important >factor. Of course, going from 32 meg to 64 meg makes much more difference >than going from 1gig to 2gigs. (As a web server, an old Sun w/ plenty of >ram does a good job.) RAM is great for many reasons, in the case of a web server and one might draw a parallel to afpd, is that by adding more RAM, several things happen: more data can be buffered for quicker retrieval more instances of httpd or in this case, afpd can run without swapping Eventually after adding enough RAM your entire web site or hard disk will be buffered and swapping will never happen. But the speed of the box will still be a constant. >> + RAM (the more of it, the faster the server can do more at once) > > No. It's all about cache. Sorry, I guess i didn't explain myself well, I hope the above makes more sense. <...snip...> > This one was silly in my list. The only interesting point is that >a good SCSI will not hog the CPU too much (it will handle most of the work >by itself). The same applies for the network adapter. Agreed. In fact, a good SCSI card and network card can make a considerable difference in terms of performance vs. CPU utilization. davez ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Zarzycki Student Intern San Jose State University Apple Computer, Inc. dzarzyck@email.sjsu.edu zarzycki@apple.com zarzycki@ricochet.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP Fingerprints (RSA): 8AF2 1040 8A9C D025 47BE 70DD A51C C887 DSS/Diffie-Hellman: CB9E 2621 B4BA 3F96 3516 B312 15B4 D842 3809 EF99 Contact pgpkeys.mit.edu for my public keys. From owner-netatalk-admins Wed Dec 31 15:58:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) for netatalk-admins-list id PAA03358; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:58:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (twins.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.83.39]) by terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.3) with ESMTP for id PAA03354; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:58:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA14934; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:58:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from root@localhost) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with X.500 id PAA14927 for netatalk.administrators-members@umich.edu; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:58:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.109]) by twins.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.8.6/2.2) with ESMTP id PAA14917 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:58:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (1027@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu [128.95.68.113]) by zookeeper.zoology.washington.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09156 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 12:50:13 -0800 Received: (from asun@localhost) by zoogx.zoology.washington.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA03465; Wed, 31 Dec 1997 12:57:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 12:57:35 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199712312057.MAA03465@zoogx.zoology.washington.edu> From: a sun To: netatalk-admins@umich.edu Subject: [netatalk-admins] pure chewing satisfaction Sender: owner-netatalk-admins@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu well, i went ahead and turned pre-a18 into a18. this patch does the following exciting things relative to 17.2: 1) byte locks for non AFS machines. i need reports on this. currently, i log all byte lock attempts. let me know if you're getting incorrect behaviour. actually, let me know if you're using them and getting correct behaviour as well. 2) changed allow/deny file access code for non AFS machines. now, it actually relies on the byte locks to prevent confusion. 3) you can use the umich beta SOLARIS driver with my code if you specify -DNEW_STREAMS_MODULE in sys/solaris/Makefile. 4) randnum/2-way randnum password changing works now. if you specify -setpassword, you can change whatever's in .passwd. fyi, this works by encrypting your new password w/ your old one and your old one with your new one. 5) faster server-side copies and networking reading and writing. the server-side copies now use mmap if they're > 128K in size while the crlf checking got shifted out of the core part of afp_read/afp_write routines. oh yeah, i inline a couple things when that feature is available. i'm curious what afp does on 100BaseT networks. if people could let me know the requested chunk sizes for file reads/writes, i would appreciate it. you can figure this out, by turning on debugging and either reading or writing the data fork of a file. 6) SimpleText fix. 7) wait! there's more! there's even better parental care of children. no longer will afpd think it has children that have actually gone away. 8) miscellaneous cleanups. as always, let me know if there are any problems. patches relative to 1.4b2 and a17.2 as well as the patched code are available at . -adrian